WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.160 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that I've been on for 2 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:05.120 most of my life. Ever since I was a kid, I've heard tales 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.199 of bigfoot and wild men while spending time with my friends and family. As 4 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:12.759 I grew older and read more about the paranormal, my interest in encryptids and 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:17.039 other things strange only deepened. That's why I'm so excited to share with you 6 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:22.960 what I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The Untold Radio Network 7 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:27.480 is a live streaming podcast network that airs a new show every day across all 8 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.839 podcast platforms, YouTube, and more. 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I got a screen going on here. 18 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:14.040 Something just kid with my dog. Something killed your dog? My dog. 19 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:15.799 We're flying through there over the tree. I don't know how it did 20 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:22.120 it? Okay, damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my 21 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:23.799 dog coming over the fence and they would dead once you hit the grill. 22 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:26.719 I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming over the 23 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:49.439 fence. Are you reporting we got some wonder or something crawling around out here? 24 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.719 Did you see what it was? It was enough out here looking im 25 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:01.799 do the one doow now? And I don't need anything. I don't want 26 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:12.599 to go outside. Hello, hit the boddy out here, quin on out 27 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.639 there. I've thought of a bit about text nine. I don't know. 28 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.719 Easy announce there. Yeah, I'm wuking right, heady Keith, and thanks 29 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.360 so much for joining me for the show. I wanted to pop into the 30 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.560 intro really quickly here because this is the first of a three part series that 31 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:30.400 we're going to do here with these amazing stories that Fred is sharing of this 32 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:38.960 gentleman's experiences over ten years and claiming to have killed several sasquatch. I've gotten 33 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:42.639 tons of emails from you guys. Some of you guys love Fred and his 34 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.319 stories. Some of you guys are not fans. I have certainly come to 35 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:50.280 realize doing the show you can't please everybody. But I do think it's important 36 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:54.319 to share these encounter stories for a myriad of reasons. I just wanted to 37 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:58.560 pop in here, first and foremost to say that, and secondly, and 38 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:02.840 probably more important, to provide a listener warning and tell you that there are 39 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:07.960 some disturbing descriptions of these creatures being shot and keeled. So it may not 40 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:12.000 be suitable for all audiences. It may not be suitable for kids in the 41 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.360 car and those that may be sensitive to that kind of thing. So with 42 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.080 that out of the way, this is part one of a three part series 43 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.400 on these encounters. Make sure you're back here on Sunday for part two and 44 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:27.159 last, but not least, if you have feedback on the show, whether 45 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.960 it's about these episodes with Fred's encounters or anything to do with the show, 46 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:35.280 you can send me an email Brian at Paranormalworldproductions dot com. You can always 47 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:37.879 head over to the website or click right here in the show notes and leave 48 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.199 me a voicemail. I get those and answer them every single day. We 49 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.280 love to hear the feedback from you, guys. We do take that into 50 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.039 consideration and we try to make this show all about you, because it truly 51 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:51.360 is your show. But enough of that, I know you guys are ready 52 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.759 to get into it. Fred's on the line, He's ready to go. 53 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:57.280 All this left for you to do is sit back, relax, and enjoy 54 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.759 the show. Greeting is spreading the line. I've been reaching out to this 55 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:08.960 guy, Thomas. He's the one that shared this ten year block of insanity. 56 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:14.159 It involves killing up three of these creatures over the course of ten years. 57 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:18.319 Now, what he conveyed to me, he originally told me this back 58 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:24.759 in nineteen ninety seven on the Factory Trawler the Arctic Storm out in the Barring 59 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:27.839 Sea. The Bearing Sea ain't no joke. We're on a three hundred and 60 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:32.319 forty foot boat with multiple levels underwater, massive boat, and one minute you'd 61 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.759 be going down the hallways. One minute you're climbing up a mountain. Next 62 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:41.120 minute you're trying not to slide down the hallway. Big waves, scary shit. 63 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.639 Now for him, this journey began back in nineteen sixty one him and 64 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.240 two of his buddies. They saved what little money they had to make it 65 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:54.600 to the Tongas National Forest. They were doing logging Prince Welles Island. I 66 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:58.279 believe it's the northern side of that. They arrived. It was quite a 67 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.279 journey to get there because they didn't have much more money and they had to 68 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:05.560 take certain less than safe means to get there, but they made it. 69 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:10.959 They got to the campsite and they talked to the foreman. It had been 70 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:14.160 advertising we need loggers, we need people. They didn't have any experience, 71 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:17.279 but they were willing to work hard. One of the southeast tribes he's from. 72 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:19.680 When they got there, there was a lot of prejudice going on. 73 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.360 The guy said he's only hiring whites because the natives will work for a day 74 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.720 and then get drunk. There was some prejudice, so they were denied work. 75 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.360 They went bust trying to get there, so they had no means of 76 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.240 getting the hell out of there, so they retreated into the woods and started 77 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:38.240 living off some salmon out of the creek, some arctic char, dolly varden, 78 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.720 stuff like that, and they had themselves a little camp and they're plotting 79 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:45.279 on offering help to other people that lived on the island, as it means 80 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:48.279 to make money to get the hell off the island. At their particular campsite, 81 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.360 he didn't remember the name of the little river that cut back up in 82 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:56.519 there, but they're about a quarter mile from shore, so they wouldn't get 83 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:00.879 hit by the breeze from the ocean and all that stuff. Nice little secluded 84 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:05.639 area where they were camping. There were strange thumpings in the trees going on 85 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:11.040 for the week above them. They got two hundred foot old girlt there. 86 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.519 It was a massive forest. It still is it just gorgeous. Google it 87 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:20.639 Tongus National Forest. It's unreal, very similar to BC. As they're trying 88 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:24.759 to figure out they had no provisions, they had no flashlights. They had 89 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.560 a couple of firearms. They had a what was it One of them had 90 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.920 a forty five seventy and the other one had I believe it was a two 91 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:35.319 seventy. So they had the means to protect themselves and feed themselves with the 92 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:40.800 black tail deer and whatnot. Now they were struggling to figure out what the 93 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:45.759 stumping was because it would be moving up in the trees around them, but 94 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.720 they couldn't see. They could hear, but what they were hearing was an 95 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:55.120 imitation of a like squirrel chatter every once in a while, like owls, 96 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:59.199 and then small grunts of a black bear, but from up in the trees, 97 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.600 not over here in the woods, from the trees. So they were 98 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.920 spooked and all they would do is take turns watching at night. This went 99 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:11.800 on for a week. They were very weren't scared. They were more curious 100 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.560 what the hell is going on here? Because they you know, where they 101 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.920 were. It was adjacent to a small river, which was about fifty feet 102 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:25.480 from their campsite now on the opposite side the trees started just shortly back. 103 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.959 They're basically in a canyon of trees with a river running through it, and 104 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.360 they were tucked into the one side of some trees. They kept trying to 105 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.040 figure out because it seemed like the sound would move and then all of a 106 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:40.519 sudden be across the river and doing the same stuff. He said it was 107 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.480 a real low thump. It was almost hard to pinpoint, but he said 108 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.279 it sounded like something jumping from tree to tree. That boggled his mind. 109 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.639 At the time, because they had their own legend of the hairy man down 110 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:55.680 there. But it was nothing he gravitated towards. He was about making money 111 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.959 and getting away from the village and all that kind of stuff. This one 112 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:01.480 night before things hit the fan, it was the night before shit went down. 113 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.480 They were eating dinner. One of his partners had shot a small blacktail 114 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.560 and they were getting down on that. As he told me, as they 115 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:15.680 were eating, they had it quartered and hanging on a rope between these two 116 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:20.240 trees, and in the glint of the firelight off to his right, he 117 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.079 notices that that rope jiggline. So immediately they turn their attention, they get 118 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:28.439 their guns. They're like, oh, bear must beat raid. Narustache wasn't 119 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:33.399 no bear. What they saw was an arm reaching from behind the tree, 120 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.440 reaching down to grab a huge arm trying to grab the rope that the stuff 121 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:39.960 was hanging them. And they grabbed the rope, and all of a sudden, 122 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.360 there was like three quarters on there in a brisket and something else. 123 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.799 I think there was some loose meat pieces hanging over the rope that fell on 124 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.600 the ground. This thing snatched it and went up the tree out of sight, 125 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.799 and then they heard the thump and the moving sound through the trees and 126 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.120 then back across the river. So they're in big what the mode, you 127 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.279 know? And he said they were too shocked to start shooting. They were 128 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:07.279 just trying to what just happened. We're sitting here trying to eat, and 129 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.039 now the blue this thing snatches our shit and bags it. They were concerned, 130 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:15.720 but none of them had an overwhelming sense of fear, not even a 131 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.000 little bit. And so it being back in the sixties, there was a 132 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.919 different mindset in those times. Finding work in remote Alaska. If it meant 133 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:28.080 painting someone's house or something like something of this nature to make money, it 134 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.240 was a lot more simple, is what I'm getting at. So they had 135 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.679 limited means. This thing just stole their shit and ran off in the trees, 136 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:41.200 and they're sitting there contemplating the next morning, it's not worth it being 137 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.600 here. So they all went to where there was houses and stuff, looking 138 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.720 can we split wood for you? Can we do this that? They even 139 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.720 went to the ferry operator at the Times house and asked him, Hey, 140 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.559 you need some boats, need patching, whatever we got to do, let's 141 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.799 make some money. We'll get the hell out of here. The guy that 142 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.039 was running one of the fairies. I said, okay, yeah, my 143 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.799 dock is messed up. I have the timbers to fix it. I just 144 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.559 don't have the manpower right now because I'm too busy running. They said, 145 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:09.559 bet, we'll take that job. They said, I'll pay you handsomely. 146 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.799 They start working immediately. They worked on that thing all day, and they 147 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.879 knew they had about an hour's worth of travel to get back to their camp 148 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.120 before dark. And what's what happened the night before. They were real anxious 149 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.960 to get back to camp before dark because all their means, all the worldly 150 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.080 goods they had at the time were at that camp. Obviously, they can't 151 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.600 hang it in a tree because something, you know, So they left it 152 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.799 as is and figured whatever that was just took the meat. So they get 153 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.799 back to camp. Now, what was crazy is as they were getting closer, 154 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:43.759 they started hearing movement up in these trees, just out of sight. 155 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:48.320 It would be like ten trees away, but they could hear like a scampering 156 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.200 and a jump, like the tree would shake, and then you'd hear the 157 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.120 impact of the land on the next tree. They were freaked out. They 158 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.720 were armed. Of course, they came across a few black bears as they 159 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.720 were walking, and when the black bears saw them, the black bear, 160 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.879 instead of turning and running, just hung its head, huffed a little bit, 161 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.919 and stepped out of their way. He said it was really weird. 162 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:07.840 He never seen them act that way. It was almost like, oh, 163 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:09.600 you're going that way, yeah, here, let me get out of your 164 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.840 way. Have at it, good luck, is what he told me. 165 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:18.000 I'm just envisioning that bear stepping off the trail. Go ahead, have fun 166 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.399 with that shit. They go on a couple bears this way. Now, 167 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.559 once they get back towards their camp is when it starts getting a little bit 168 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:28.480 tense because as they're coming into camp, they come around this big tree, 169 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.679 big Douglas fir And as they come around, something stands up from their camp 170 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.320 turns. This hairy man looks at them, jumps up into the tree and 171 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:43.200 scrambles up it faster than they've seen anything move. And all their stuff wasn't 172 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.960 thrown about, but it was all anything in a pack or anything was picked 173 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:52.120 out and just set out like this thing was examining what they had. They 174 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.559 noticed that two of their boxes of AMMO were unaccounted for. They had no 175 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:01.919 money, and now they have limited rounds. Thomas had the forty five seventy 176 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:07.240 and he kept all the loose AMMO in his vest, so everywhere he walked 177 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.799 ahead to jiggle to him rounds just randomly. So they're immediately freaked out. 178 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:18.440 They don't know what to make of it because now they're being investigated, basically 179 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.559 by the scene that stole their shit, so they have some get back in 180 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.480 mind. One of his partners takes the two seventy and goes to look for 181 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:30.960 another blacktail. Now why they were still willing to adventure, especially they let 182 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.600 their buddy go off alone, I couldn't answer that dude was unharmed, but 183 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.639 he ended up getting like a real small fawn. They were surviving. Basically, 184 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.799 it's nothing I recommend. You don't want to kill babies, but when 185 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.000 in Rome, what do you do gotta eat? He comes back with the 186 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:48.840 fawn and he guts it out in that little river to let the river just 187 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.799 flow the intestines on down and all the hundreds they're working to mess with just 188 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.279 keep camp clean from any scavenging because of what it had been going on. 189 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:00.240 Now as he's gutting it and cleaning it out, down at the river, 190 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.519 which is just right over there, not far. They had eyes on him 191 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.480 when he was doing it. They heard this horrific scream coming from across that 192 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:11.879 river up in the trees. He said. They could tell it was near, 193 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.919 but it was far enough away that they didn't feel imminent danger. But 194 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.639 it changed their whole view because up until this point it was a little squirrel 195 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.639 sounds, a little bare grunt noises, nothing too detrimental to what they thought 196 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:28.519 would be dangerous, and so that scream changed it. It changed how they 197 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.559 totally viewed anything about what was going on, because he said the nature of 198 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:39.960 that scream was like vengeful. He said, it had a vengeful like aggravation 199 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.600 to it, like I'm over this rah, like you're getting you know, 200 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.879 I'm done, which you don't want no parts of that shit, if that's 201 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:52.919 what's going on. So they all posse up. He drags it on over 202 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.480 and there's he's continuing to do what he does because they're hungry when they got 203 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.279 the fire going and everything. Now down there don't have the same light cycles 204 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.960 we do. They do stay lighter during certain times of the year, like 205 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.399 summertime up here, but it's not the same because it's further south, and 206 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.360 so they get darker a little faster than we do up here in like the 207 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:16.279 Matsu Valley per se, or over in Visco Bay or up north. Now, 208 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.240 as they're discussing their knight's plans, who's going to start watch and all 209 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.720 this, they all decide that the two seventy will be a backup and the 210 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:28.279 forty five seventy will be the primary because they planned on dealing with the situation. 211 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:35.000 Now, what they had envisioned was one of these things that's causing this 212 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.879 because they only heard the one making movements and noise. Now, something they 213 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:45.320 didn't realize at the time was that all that noise and movement up there was 214 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:50.399 actually a distraction from what was going wrong around them. Now, as the 215 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.279 night progressed and they ate, they hung what was left again a little closer 216 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.840 on smaller trees that they knew a Harryman wasn't up in already. Right, 217 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.720 Okay, they use some of the small alders and stuff or the willows to 218 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.399 tie and hang it. They learned their lesson there, and stay tuned for 219 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:13.159 more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back. After these messages when 220 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.679 they were camping around, just talking. They were contemplating just leaving and setting 221 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:24.320 up camp the next day closer to their job that they got, which hey, 222 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:31.320 good idea. Now, as their discussing this, little pebbles start hitting 223 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:35.960 in the fire, just little pebbles, just not going to fire around, 224 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.759 so that they were aware of it. They didn't acknowledge it, but they 225 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.559 already knew. They had already prediscussed whenever goes down, the main guy will 226 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:48.039 just play it cool until they get close enough. Because they were massive, 227 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.120 he said. The one that stood up and then jumped up the tree was 228 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:58.759 at least twelve foot tall at least, and they were very concerned about exactly 229 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:03.039 what was going to go down, genuinely. And so as they got their 230 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.879 game plan or whatever, and the pebbles are landing, Thomas stands up and 231 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:10.360 he takes the forty five to seventy and he has it laid up against his 232 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:15.120 side, and he's keeping his body turned in a way from the noise that 233 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.000 they had been hearing for the last half hour off in the distance. So 234 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.759 he didn't want to see whatever was over there to see that he was armed. 235 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:26.600 He wanted it to be a surprise. And as he's standing up. 236 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.519 He's still talking to his partners, but he's fixated away from the fire and 237 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.600 away from everything to get his night vision clear, because he had been staring 238 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:37.960 at the fire. So he's getting his night vision clear, just listening. 239 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:40.879 They're talking, he's answering every once in a while. All of a sudden, 240 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:45.039 he gets hit with a little pebble in the back, and he felt 241 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.320 like it came square in the back because the impact was dead on and not 242 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:51.519 a glancing bounce off, so it wasn't coming from the sides. It came 243 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:56.480 directly from the back. And so he mentions in whatever dialect the youth that 244 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.039 they were speaking to one of his partners, don't throw rocks on and his 245 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.480 partner said, ain't no one throwing rocks. He knew, and so he 246 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.799 goes, okay, and grant you. They're speaking Yupik. I can't speak 247 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.640 Cupik. It's too throaty I never retained it from when my grandma taught me 248 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.240 when I was little. They're discussing this back and forth in Yupik. That 249 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.559 noise he had been hearing, and he's still facing away. He's still getting 250 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:26.519 his night vision right. This sound goes tearing around and making a ruckus on 251 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.640 purpose making a ruckus, and he recognized immediately distraction. I just got hit 252 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:34.480 in the back with the rock. This thing's distracting us. He turns around 253 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:40.759 just in time to see his friends looking in the direction of the distraction while 254 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:45.160 a hairy man was grabbing that other deer meat. Now when he saw that, 255 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:51.640 he immediately turned whipped whom shot it and the eye dropped dead right there, 256 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.200 still holding on to the rope with the deer on the deer meat hanging 257 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.559 from it. He down crumpled on itself. The tree lit up with noises 258 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.599 and sounds and screams. Branches were being thrown, rocks were being thrown at 259 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:10.119 them, So they're ducking behind trees to get out of view of all this 260 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.839 being pelted with rocks and stuff. But they're coming from up in the trees. 261 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:18.559 They're coming from the forest around and he could determine there was at least 262 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:23.319 another six to seven individuals just from the direction of stuff being thrown, unless 263 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.119 one was throwing over here and just running in a circle chucking stuff periodically. 264 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.000 Other than that, there had to have been at least six of them seven 265 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:36.759 counting the one that was crumpled up next to their camp. Now, initially 266 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:40.920 he was like, oh crap, I just killed this, saying it was 267 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.720 just trying to get my food. They were distracting them to take the food. 268 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.960 He killed it. Now they got this to deal with. They pop 269 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.000 off some shots into the trees, trying to keep because the noises were slowly 270 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:57.960 closing in on them. They said, screw this. They went around this 271 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.519 one side of the tree, and the guy with the two seventy was trying 272 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.920 to look up because they got out of the way of the firelight to try 273 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:10.000 to gain better night vision. He had already acclimated himself by turning away from 274 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:14.039 the fire earlier. He was trying to keep a bead on the sounds moving 275 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.279 and the noises in the trees. Most of the noises in the trees at 276 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:21.079 this point were on the opposite side of the river. There was one noise 277 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.440 going on earlier, but he assumed it was the one he shot because that 278 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.799 noise wasn't being made anymore. So they stood their ground. They didn't want 279 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:32.680 to run off into the darkness because these things had the advantage big time, 280 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.920 he said. The one he shot was approximately nine foot tall, as this 281 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:41.799 chaos is going on slowly, the noises started backing off, backing away, 282 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.599 and when the noises backed away, all of a sudden, bigger rocks start 283 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:51.200 coming in and they were landing right on that fire, so that starts happening. 284 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:52.720 So they realized, oh, they're trying to knock our fire out, 285 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.880 so we really can't see, and they pop shots in that direction periodically. 286 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:02.559 The couple boxes of AMMO were missing, so they were very selective on what 287 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.680 they were popping at. Now, after a couple of volleys of this going 288 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.559 on with a couple of gunshots, they heard the noises move away, but 289 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:15.559 they felt no sense of safety none. One of his partners had a little 290 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.480 fox trench shovel from like a surplus to kind of fold up for gis or 291 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:23.400 whatever. So he starts digging this grave in a soft spot under the willows 292 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.279 because with all the big tree roots, it was the softest body could find. 293 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:32.599 They wanted that body buried. So he starts digging and he swapped out 294 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.559 with the other guy while Thomas stood guard, and through the whole night they 295 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:41.079 dug down. They were able to get to about five feet maybe down big 296 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:47.079 enough for this thing. So they took the rope that basically it collapsed on, 297 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.319 tied it around its wrists, and all three of them bought to drag 298 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:55.440 it the twenty twenty five feet over to this hole. They get to the 299 00:20:55.440 --> 00:21:00.440 hole and they dump it in, and when it bumped in there, it 300 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.880 still had a little air trapped in a song, so it made this kind 301 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.519 of sound. It wasn't alive. Part of his head was blown off when 302 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.279 the forty five seventy round hit it in the face and did his thing did 303 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.880 its number on it, so that noise. He shot into the hole and 304 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:17.960 sowd his other barner. They just put a couple more rounds into it because 305 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:19.680 it made a noise. I get it. This thing was massive, he 306 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:23.359 said. It was at least it felt to be at least eight hundred pounds. 307 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.599 And the three of them struggled to pull it. They were throwing all 308 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.759 sorts of pine needles and other shit underneath it to break that tension, that 309 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:36.119 that friction on the ground, and so they get it buried up. And 310 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.480 the whole time he's paying attention to the noises, but there was none. 311 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:45.039 It was dead quiet. Now as they were plotting to get out of there, 312 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:49.680 it was just starting to get light on the horizon. They were absolutely 313 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:55.599 on pins and needles because these noises started happening again. It seemed like they 314 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:59.880 were all around, but they couldn't see nothing. They started hearing that low 315 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.839 bump again, but there was no movement sounds associated with that thump. That 316 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:08.799 thump just kept it was like almost melodic. Just don't and then it caught 317 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:14.680 his eye just he said, about forty five fifty feet away, there was 318 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:18.200 a pair of Douglas firs that kind of had the same base almost, but 319 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.400 there were two separate trees. They just grew so close together that they beat 320 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.640 up like that. One of these things was jumping back and forth, bump 321 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.599 bump, bump, and he could tell it was looking right down at them, 322 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.920 and it was agitated. It had a very aggressive kind of thing, 323 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.720 and he said he couldn't see its face for expressions on that. He said 324 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.119 he felt the aggression, he felt the anger and the I'm gonna get you 325 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.920 vibes. And so they were seriously on point, and he put a couple 326 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.640 shots up at it, and it just grambled in the trees and was gone. 327 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.039 But while they're doing that, there's still all these other noises going on 328 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.640 around that they're just like, we gotta go, we gotta go now, 329 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.640 no one run, grab our stuff, and let's get to where there's a 330 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.960 little more people around. And so they start their slow walk. As they're 331 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:10.640 going, they got a power and they're walking slower than normal because they're scared 332 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:15.680 of shit. As they're going along, they are shearing like they're constantly being 333 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:21.079 circled. And then the circle would turn around, he said, And they 334 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.039 were walking slow. So every time they move, it seemed every time they 335 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.839 stop, them would listen and then start moving again. The circle would go 336 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:30.680 a different direction, always out of sight. Because Grant, you've got to 337 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.720 remember, it's getting lighter as things are moving on here, and they're they're 338 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.559 able to see better. So these things are smart enough to realize, okay, 339 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.240 they killed Bob over there stealing the meat, they obviously got something that 340 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.480 can get us. So they're keeping their distance as they're going around. Now. 341 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:49.119 As Thomas and his partners were coming out of the old growth into some 342 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.880 of the stuff that's already been logged, there was some replants here and there, 343 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.000 so it was a bit open with big stumps. Once they get past 344 00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:00.680 this field of big stumps. They go down this little trail, cross another 345 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.799 little creek, and then they come into where other people are living, where 346 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.559 there's civilization. At the time, as they're going through the stump field, 347 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.160 as he calls it, out of the corner of his left eye, one 348 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.559 of these things, a smaller one, leaping from stump to stump, and 349 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:18.480 he said the stumps were twenty five to thirty feet part. He said, 350 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.880 it looks small because these stumps were shumongous old girl stumps. If you've never 351 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:27.920 seen one, google it old growth, Douglas burst stop massive base is on 352 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.519 these things. He said, they average about ten feet in diameter. He 353 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.279 saw this thing jumping and it looked real small in comparison, but in actuality 354 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.799 this thing was actually like ten foot tall. He didn't realize it, but 355 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.359 this thing was going ahead of them, yeah, almost like I'm going to 356 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.119 cut them off at the packs. And as soon as it got out of 357 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:51.039 sight ahead of them in what it thought it was being stealthy and wasn't being 358 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:56.240 seen when he saw it, the noises behind started kicking up in that tree 359 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.640 line and stuff started getting thrown again. So they were trying to set them 360 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.839 up. One got ahead of them. They're going to distract them back this 361 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.519 way while the other one does it stink. He wasn't going for it. 362 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:12.319 All he told his partners was move faster, don't look back, just keep 363 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:17.119 moving, just belying. They're going through, cutting through all this stuff. 364 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.400 Now, where they get to where they're anticipating the one being, they hear 365 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.960 it scream is about thirty feet away in thick cover where they couldn't see it. 366 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.039 It's screamed. And then back at that tree line a good distance back. 367 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:32.599 Now they heard some more screaming, and then they heard scurrying from that 368 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.319 one heading back that direction. So they felt a little more at ease. 369 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:38.960 They continued on and they made it to the guy's house they were hired on 370 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.319 for. The guy saw the condition they were in. They didn't tell this 371 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.720 guy anything. They just said there was weird noises and we couldn't stay where 372 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.000 we were. Something stole our dear meat. We got nothing to eat. 373 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.640 The guy was like, look, you guys worked hard for me. Obviously 374 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.279 you guys are having too hard of a time on it. I'm going to 375 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.200 give you guys a couple bucks, not much, and I'm going to give 376 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.960 you a ferry ride over to get you out of here. They accept it. 377 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.960 I thank god I haven't dealt with them jumping around in trees above me. 378 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.519 I don't get around trees that big that often. I've been down Hinshenbrook 379 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:12.920 Island and down southeast a little ways like Cordova, and they get pretty big. 380 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.920 But these were the old growth ones. I could just imagine. I 381 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.519 asked him to stink. He said, no, you could smell the blood. 382 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.400 It just smelled the iron or whatever. I was like, what about 383 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:27.839 its proportions? And he said when they were putting their hand up on its 384 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.920 dead hand, but as they were tying it, they were making comments, 385 00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:37.839 and he said his hand barely came up to this mark. His whole hand 386 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:42.680 barely fit right there. And he said that it was unreal in how just 387 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:48.599 robust and obviously strong. It was just dragging it, he said, was 388 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.319 a serious chory. It was some serious dead weight. I'm going to break 389 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:57.640 this up into the three parts of this ten year saga. Trying to imagine 390 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:04.400 heaping my col or to dig a hole, Jess, but thanks for joining 391 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:14.599 me. They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. 392 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:44.839 And I don't want to be long world. Up it, try this job 393 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:52.440 that chart. Everything came right back, ride back Joy for me, Joy 394 00:27:52.480 --> 00:28:21.680 stay right there, coming right away side still states, still stas s S 395 00:28:22.839 --> 00:29:03.119 S S s st st ST, still games and stews us as US as 396 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:08.839 a PSI fast used US instance