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Today, I want to tell you
about a journey that I've been on for

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most of my life. Ever since
I was a kid, I've heard tales

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of bigfoot and wild men while spending
time with my friends and family. As

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I grew older and read more about
the paranormal, my interest in encryptids and

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other things strange only deepened. That's
why I'm so excited to share with you

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what I've personally become involved with the
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Hey everybody, this is Less Strive. Yes, yes I know aka

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Survivor Man, and you're listening to
Brian on sasquatch Audis he there and welcome

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back to Sasquatchis. Thank you so
much for being with us for the show.

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It is Friday. I hope you're
having a great week. We have

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an amazing guest line up for you. But before we get there, I

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want to start by inviting you.
If you've had an encounter and you'd like

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to be on the show, shoot
me an email. You can get me

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a Brian at Paranormal World Productions dot
com. Get head over to the website,

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check it out, became remember there
and help support the show. I

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got to sit down and talk to
David Race from the Monstrosity Podcast. He's

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done radio for a ton of years. He's a comedian and he is now

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the host of The Monstrosity Podcast where
he sits down and talks to celebrities that

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you've probably heard of in the past, and they have conversations about all things

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strange like bigfoot, ghost UFOs,
anything to do with a paranormal I will

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link to Monstrosity here in the show
notes for Apple Podcasts and Spotify, but

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you can get it anywhere you listen
to this show. In addition to talking

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about some of the interesting stories that
some of these celebrities have shared with David,

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he's also here to share his bigfoot
encounter, so you definitely don't want

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to miss that. So I know
you guys are ready to get into it.

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David's on the line, He's ready
to go. All you got to

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do is sit back, relax,
and enjoy the show hard. I want

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to welcome our guest to the show. It is David Race, the host

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of the Monstrosity podcast. Welcome to
the show. David, Hey, how

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are you doing. I am good
man. I am glad to have you

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here. I've been looking forward to
this conversation. So let's get right into

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it. Before we get into the
bigfoot stuff that we're going to talk about

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tonight, let's talk a little bit
about your show, how that became about

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for you, because I know as
a podcaster, everybody I talked to into

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podcasting has some sort of a story
that got them where they're at. Talk

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about the impetus of your show and
how that started for you. It's a

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two part answer. The part one
of that is that I was dis jocking

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the radio for vizillion years. Having
done that, I already had the whole

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broadcasting foundation thing down from years of
that. And then I became a standup

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comedian on the East Coast back in
the late nineties, moved to LA in

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the early two thousands, continued doing
under stand up. And as I was

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going around town doing stand up all
these years in LA, I started fighting

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more or comedians were doing podcasts.
I was hearing it left and right in

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green rooms and things, and at
first I really was skittish about it.

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I didn't want to hear about anything
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like, I already did that.
I'm gonna go do a radio show from

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my house this time. No,
I did not want to know about that.

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So I feel like I was the
last comedian I knew in LA to

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get into the podcasting arena. But
ultimately, around twenty fifteen, i'd say

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throwing that idea around in my mind. I think I was in a shower

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when it occurred to me that what
if I do a podcast that's not just

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like what all the other comedians were
doing, which was just like the Johnny

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Johnson Show or the Frank Stevens Show
or Frank and his Friends. They were

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all doing that. I was like, what if I hang a picture frame

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around what this thing is? The
construct around it would be comedians talking about

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Bigfoot. And I knew that I
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on that topic. I knew that
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hours, and I knew the other
comedians wouldn't. They probably be more cynical

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and comedian issue back. But I
thought, if you think of it as

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a table, I thought, if
I create a table that's me at one

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leg, a couple comedians as the
other two legs, and then a fourth

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leg is Bobo finding Bigfoot. The
next week it's somebody else from the big

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Foot Organization of Oregon. If I
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have me, I'm a comedian,
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without the topic, but I can
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are idiots that are going to probably
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have Cliff Barrickman at the other peg. And I thought like that would be

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an interesting show like this all came
to me in a shower or something,

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as I often do. I came
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writing down this idea before I forget
this. That turned into comedians talking about

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Bigfoot. That show got seven episodes
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end the up going and shooting a
pilot TV deal with the guys who

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had done Monster Quest. We went
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two comedians in it with me.
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We shut the hell out of an
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that weren't quite right and that kept
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off the ground. I still think
it could have sold certain things that have

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been allowed to be done by me
and others, but that's Water and the

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Ridge. It didn't sell for various
reasons. Then I went back to the

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drawing board and I was sitting around
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a podcast again, But do I
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I want to bring that show back. At that point I had the two

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year layoff, and I thought,
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that's almost the same but not quite
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Let's call it monstrosity, got monster
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I loved that word, and it
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construct difference between this and the Bigfoot
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on celebrity guests, not necessarily comedians, as the guests still put that other

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guy, the serious person from the
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Ghost show at the other end of
that and go that sort of slight adjustments

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from the old version of the show
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doing quite well. And I can't
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come rolling in the door when after
the next to do the show. And

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you know, a lot of times, I don't know how this is happening.

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By the way, I've been a
lot of times my teenage crushes tend

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to walk in. Don't know how
they all find out about the show somehow

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I got teenage crush after the teenage
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coming in, Lonnie Anderson came in. There's others I'm forgetting, And then

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we've had rock stars on Shadows Stevens
is a favorite episode of mine. He

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was great, just one person half
next to movie stars, tv stars,

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rock stars, and they come in
and I stick him in there with a

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guy from anchiin Aliens or Matt Moneymaker
or whatever. Let's talk a little bit

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about some of the people that have
been on the show and have shared their

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experiences. I've done a little background. I know a little bit about the

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show, so I know the answer
to this. But how many of the

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people that you're bringing on have an
interest in Bigfoot and have anything to share

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as far as encounters go with Bigfoot
itself. That keeps surprising me because it's

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not a requirement of the celebrity guest
bookings on the show. I mean,

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imagine, if I made a requirement
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sight, like I'd be down to
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Los Angeles. So we make it
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you don't need to know anything.
Davy'll handle that. You know that

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money Maker'll handle that. You just
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fun with it, or if you're
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You know that kind of. But
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a required It keeps happening that celebrities
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have had unusual experience. They keep
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they walk in. Lydia Cornell,
I'm Too Close for Comfort ended up basically

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revealing that she had been abducted by
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that's what happened, but actually unfolded
her story. It's clear to me that's

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what happened. Shadow Stevens had some
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of the Nerds had a thing where
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guy at a diner, and he
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and he was getting really mad at
somebody else in the story. He

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was steaming mad. He was staring
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he was steaming mad about this thing
this guy was telling him, and the

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drinking glass exploded into a million pieces, like a creskin kind of thing.

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They all keep coming at. Lonnie
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Arnold Schwarzenegger, and she was filming
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the house to Jane Mansfield lived in, and she feels she was being haunted

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by Jane Mansfield's ghost during the filming. Actually had a visitation by the physical

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ghost that she could see. She
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mansfield shower and I asked her how
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visiting, because it was very likely
a male ghost photographer. But was the

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sort of exchange that come up?
But it's just yes. The answer is

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there's no requirement that a celebrity come
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things, but they seem too pretty
consistent. Gotcha, Let's talk a little

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bit about your personal experiences. I
know again, for me, I got

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in podcasting because the things that happened
to me when I was a kid.

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I've always been interested in Bigfoot,
and I wanted to talk to as many

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people as I possibly could that have
had those kind of experiences. I haven't

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seen one of these things, but
I want to talk to a ton of

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people who have. Is that sort
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Was it experiences that you had early
on it was it just something that

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you were into as a kid and
then blossomed later in life. I know

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you've had some experiences that I certainly
want to get to and share with the

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audience. I'd take a little bit
of ball early on, long before I

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had any experience, Like so many
people, probably my age, I loved

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that Leonard Nimway show in Serghow.
I used to creep the hell out by

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that show. Scared the hell out
of me, but I couldn't turn it

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off. Even the music on that
show was scared, just like the background

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of music, not the theme music, which was scary, but the actual

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music they would lay under him while
he's doing his narration. Most peculiar music

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playing on that show. So it
was just really well done. I loved

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that show. I used to watch
it that and it was a It was

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a theatrical release of a Bigfoot thing
when I was a kid, and I

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remember fascinated me, like, not
Harry and the Henderson's, not something silly

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like that, something serious, something
like on the Patterson Gimlin line, somewhere

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like something like documentary I remember was
released in the mid seventies when I was

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a kid, and that was like
something I was fascinated by. So the

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topic was rolling around in me since
childhood, and I think I'd be terrified

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of but fascinated by a similar thing. UFOs also another thing that would really

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interest me at time, and then
later on in two thousand and seven,

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October two two thousand and seven,
to be exact, I have my experience.

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So October two thousand and seven,
my father owned a house upstate New

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York. I grew up on Long
Island, and he owned a vacation property

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upstate in New York also that he
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I knew that probably most of my
whole life. And in October two thousand

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and seven, I was on the
East Coast to see a Genesis concert.

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Anybody who listens to my show even
one episode, finds out I'm the world's

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biggest Genesis fan, so I shouldn't
be surprised to anybody that I flew three

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thousand to see a rock con.
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East Coast seeing these Genesis shows.
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we went upstate to my father's house
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while we were there, one night, my wife. Maybe on the first

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night. She's standing outside on the
porch. It's a log cabin house at

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the top of a private properties on
the plateau of a mountain, on a

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private property. My father owned fifty
five acre, and there's no one nearby.

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I don't remember that you could see
a house nearby. It's just out

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there in the middle of the woods, a couple thousand feet up or something,

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on the top of a plateau on
a fifty five acre private gated property.

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That's where this house is. It's
a log cabin house. My wife

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is standing outside ten o'clock at night
or something, looking through the telescope,

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and the stars are so crystal clear
out there. And she's not into these

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topics. This isn't her universe at
all, this stuff. And I'm watching

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her through the window. I'm in
the living room seeing her through the glass,

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and I'm noticing she keeps pulling down
the telescope from her eye, looking

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around, you know, like she
heard something. How was that kind of

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getting back to the telescope that seemed
spooked again, unusual behavior for her.

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And then after a few of these
things, she comes in and says to

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me, I don't like this I'm
standing inside, and I said, what

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what's going on? She goes,
I feel like something's watching me, and

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I'm hearing like noises over there,
and then a rabbit ran by, very

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scared. Again. I didn't think
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stuff from Leonard dee moy, from
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there weren't as many as they're like
Finding big But I think probably came on

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around that time, maybe a little
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wasn't like as well versed as I
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just generally spookiness of the woods,
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I didn't think like that yet.
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We're in the house and things you
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then we went to bed for the
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in was on the opposite side of
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his wife's standing, and so we
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sound asleep. A smashing thump or
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to our heads. And this is
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This is not some place that you can

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knock down with a push. This
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Two or three hits right next to
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staying in and it's pitch dark,
and we're dead asleep, this dead dead

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middle night. So we both jumped
and looked at each other. What you

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just woke and sid like the Cleveland
of being woken up if someone had taken

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two parades symbols back don't together.
It was that kind of sudden wake up,

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like three stooges stuff. We walk
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and went the house. And then
we both just looked at each other and

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later our heads back down sleep.
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or seek out the window. We
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that we just throw ourselves back to
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that anybody who's been in a traumatic
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the kind of knocks you out that
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who've been those kinds of things will
tell you that they don't remember the details

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of the accident. They don't remember
things like that a yellow car was coming

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in and it hit us. Their
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suffer this trauma again, like he's
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you don't have to memorize that part
of it. It's almost like some divine

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intervention happened to keep us from getting
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am positive that had I stood up
instead of just looking at her and looking

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at me in and just falling back
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with DRIs and went like this,
just two feet away to the blinds.

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I was staring face to face with
a big book. Because there's nothing else

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that could have done what this was
in the middle of the woods, our

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private property, fifty five acres in
would no one around it now Later on

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a month or a week later,
I don't even remember how long after,

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but if there's a record of it, I called the BFRO and reported this

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whole story, and they interviewed me
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they called me like a couple of
days later, asked me more questions,

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and I couldn't believe how thorough they
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the follow up call, listen,
David, were a little embarrassed to call

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you and ask you this additional question, but it's an important one. Was

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your wife men'st writing? And I
was like, I think so, and

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I wouldn't have asked her. And
every woman has like a calendar with these

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things written down on them. And
she was, and he goes, was

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the window open? It was opened
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after my two hour call the first
time and then my one hour call the

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second time, his conclusion was that
that was a class B bigfoot. Nothing

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else that could have been. And
I didn't know. This is the times

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I wasn't studied on this yet.
This house that we're talking about was about

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twenty five minutes from Whitehall, New
York, the home of all the upstate

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York bickfoot sighting. My father also
ended up telling me all kinds of things.

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He's an ex cop and his skeptical
about all these kinds of things.

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He's not a next cup like you
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skeptical kind. And he ended up
telling me things that rang up his Bigfoot

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things to me. Later on,
as I asked him questions, and as

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I had got more well read on
the topic and really was devouring everything you

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could about it, I started asking
him questions about the property and he would

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give me these throwaway stories that he
saw as nonsensical, like he was accidentally

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saying things that were dead on Bigfoot
things about even realizing it. For example,

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that a couple of times he found
dead deer on the property with the

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broken leg, the back leg broken
snapped, and the deer's laying there dead

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with the parts missing. He used
to put his dog out and a dog

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run on the property, and when
he'd come back, the dog was terrified

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and like in a corner, not
wanting to be left outside, and that

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door run over again. Those sort
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He would tell me these things in
a throwaway with I don't know, one

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time there was a dead deer like
probably absurd things that I'm like, you

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mean, you had a big foot
killing, Like he doesn't even know what

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he's telling me. Now, in
the years since then, not only am

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I really well read on the topic, but I've gotten a Matt Moneymaker pretty

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well, and he and I have
talked about this, and he's also gone

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back and looked in the BFRO files
at my original report, and he's gone

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and talked to the investigator in his
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And Matt thinks that was the real
thing. It had to be. There's

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no other explanation for what would do
that. And based on the geography,

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the proximity to Whitehall and all that
when you got up the next day was

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bigfoot on your brain. And again
I'll go back to just the reaction.

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A lot of people who share their
experiences on my show, we'll say they'll

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have a really intense encounter with something
out in the middle of nowhere in a

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tent. Something's pushing on their tent, They're hearing noises, they're something walking

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around in the camp, sometimes picking
shit up and throwing it around, and

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they just fall right back to sleep. And it seems to be I don't

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know if it's something psychological that happens
during those kind of encounters. A lot

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of people, some of the high
strangeness things will come into play and people

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will say, oh, Bigfoot has
the ability to put people to sleep.

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I'm not going down that road with
you just exactly yet, but there is

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something to that part of these types
of encounters. You guys, hear this

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horrible smacking on the side of the
house and then you just fall back asleep.

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There's something that's going on there.
I never thought of that. I

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never thought of that. I never
thought about. It is the Bigfoot itself

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behind the thing. Go right back
out, you're dan down, because it

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is remarkable that we both neither one
of us got up and look like,

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I don't think that what happened to
my house in La. Stay tuned for

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more Sasquatch Odyssey. We'll be right
back after these messages. I think if

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anything weird happened in my house in
La, one or both of us would

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look. I don't think we would
both be like, oh what was that

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smashing? R R. Yeah,
it's just not what we would do.

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And you're right, it's very weird
that we both went back down, head

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to the pillow like Marionette's. But
you want to drop the string instant.

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I never ever thought of it,
and I don't know if there's something else

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to that. Like I said,
I've talked to plenty of people who will

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tell you there is something to it. Maybe the Sasquatch themselves have this ability

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to use infrasound or whatever it is
that they're using. Again, that's something

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I can't prove. I can't go
down that road because I don't have enough

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anecdotal data to really present to anybody. But I've heard it in a ton

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of situations where you would think that
people would be hyped up again if something

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happens here, we hear a loud
noise, I'm up, I'm looking outside,

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I'm shotting the flashlight. Is everyone
yeah? Yeah, yeah, anyone

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is? Yeah, there is.
Like you said, there's no explaining why

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was that our reaction this time?
And by the way, this window wasn't

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a far walk or it wasn't the
kind of thing where too lazy, sleepy

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people do. I don't want to
walk fifty feet over there to the window

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I'm talking about. It was pretty
much a reach out the bed situation.

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It was. The window was right
here. I don't know if we're on

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are we on camera? Pick?
The window was with my handleng was opened,

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the buck and we didn't bother,
and I'll tell you right now,

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there's nothing else. When you tell
a skeptic my story as I've done,

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they say stupid things like I was
a bear, it was a deer.

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First of all, If it was
a deer, the deer would have been

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laying there dead, unconscious, having
rammed his head into the wall like a

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freight train three times two or three
times high speed. He'd have been laying

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there with a cracked skull upside down, four legs up. It's just there's

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nothing logical about that. I went
out the next day and like looked at

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the window sill and looked at how
the height is and where it seemed like

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it was coming from. It was. It's pretty high, like the thing

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was hitting around nine ten feet high. It's just a weird spot and just

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a weird behavior for a bear.
It's a weird spot for bear to hit.

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There are numerous bigfoot incidents, like
you said, involving shaking of cabins,

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shaking of tents, hitting of structures. This is not an unusual behavior

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for bigfoot. Yeah, I've heard
the stories so many times. Doug Highcheck,

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who's been on the show for monster
quests, several times. Doug's a

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friend of mine. He's talked about
the New Grove Lake incident. They've had

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some wild experiences. His son Blaine
has been up there on his own yep

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and something basically picked the damn cabin
up and set it down. Yeah,

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I know those guys also. And
let me tell you something. Doug high

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Check is a magnet from monster.
I don't know what the hell happened in

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his past life, but he is
being chased around by UFOs, bigfoots,

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dog men. If Doug high Check's
around, you're in danger. Something might

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catch you. I never met a
person that's had so many mothmen chase him

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arat scout. That's unreal. And
now I almost told Doug they're supposed to

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be coming out and interviewing me for
the Legend Meet Science two documentary. Now

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almost to Doug, don't come.
I don't want you on my property.

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Dude. Terrifying. He's being chased
by monsters and UFOs round the clock,

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and his relatives are too, because
when you talk to him, it's always

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and his daughter had this happened?
The son had that happened. His cousin

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and his uncle Tuesday were dibition locked
this monster dactum. Doug high Check is

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a magnet from Monster. It's fitting
that he did monster quest right. So

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yes, maybe when you guys got
up the next day, did you go

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out and take a look around?
Did you see anything? Was Bigfoot still

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on the radar for you? How
was the rest of that trip did you

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guys experience anything else? Then?
Did you have a conversation with your dad

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at that time about what you guys
had experienced and what was his reaction?

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I think the next morning I definitely
mentioned it to him. And again I

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wasn't so knowledgeable on a bigfoot.
I wasn't really well read that at the

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times, so big what wasn't absolutely
my definitive thought. But I knew that

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this is very strange, like a
year, for example, I would have

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discounted immediately. I knew that's insane. Of course, that's the kind of

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answer my father gave me, an
insane one. But was it the year?

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Probably a rabbit? He said something
stupid like that. He just was

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very rolled off him Like I didn't
say anything important, but I didn't quite

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know what it was. And like
I said, not very long after I

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start watching things like finding Bigfoot and
seeing incidents that reminded me of this,

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watching high checks shows things like Monster
Quest and seeing things that reminded me of

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this, and I went, oh, wait a minute. And then I

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thought about what's the bigfoot history upstate
New York? And then I discovered the

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Whitehall incident. I go, oh, my god, where's Whitehall relations to

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that? Up It's twenty minutes away, right on the same mountain chain.

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And then each different piece starts falling
into place for me where I'm later on

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going wait a minute, and I
realized what happened. How long was it

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after that? Because I know you've
had other experiences? How long was it

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after that initial experience before you I
had another experience of what you believe to

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be a sasquatch, probably three four
years and the second incidents more visual but

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less conclusive, if that makes sense. I haven't talked about this, this

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next one very much. I don't
even recall if I've ever told this story

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on my podcast. But the second
instant, the one you're that you'd be

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talking about, I think, is
that Yosemite National Park can't even pay for

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you. What year it is.
I'm going to take a guess, like

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when you're eleven ish nowhere around there. I was on our private tour like

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where you're just like in a van
with a tour guy that does this every

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day, Me and my wife him, and like maybe two other couples that

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I didn't know from other parts of
the country, and we're all in this

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van all day and by that time
I missed a Bigfoot. By that time,

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I'm really deep into the books.
I've read dozens of books. By

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then, every episode of Finding a
big Foot of Monster Quests I've been dvyard

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and watched twenty times. That's why
I am at that juncture, okay,

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And in this van ride throughout the
whole day, I'm asking bigfoot question.

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It was really humiliating. Again,
Like when I think about in my mind,

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i hear it out loud. I
think about, what are these other

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people thinking. There's a couple from
Dallas and a couple from Atlanta, and

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they're asking the normal questions you'd ask. Are you're a se Many tour guide.

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How much snow did they get up
here during the winter time? And

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it seems like a big lot of
snuff? Hey, how high are those

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waterfalls? Things people would normally ask. It a situation like that I'm popping

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in with the third question, like, yeah, you got a lot of

406
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.440
sasquatch sightings up here. You must
be seeing things. You're on tour every

407
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.400
day around this park, you have
you seen stuff like where I'm getting looks

408
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.839
over the shoulder from the driver.
Yeah, I've seen something. At some

409
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.640
point during the day, I think
he actually said to me in my ear,

410
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:34.519
I've seen a lot of things up
here. This is a scary place.

411
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.960
I can't talk about that on this
tour. Yeah. He gave me

412
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:42.440
the mumbled explanations like you're on the
right track, buddy. Now. At

413
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:47.960
some point during that tour, we
were standing on one of the famous overlooks,

414
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:49.720
and God helped me. I don't
remember the names of these things that

415
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.359
cause you're seventy one of the places
that if you go on the three hour

416
00:26:53.519 --> 00:27:00.000
tour, like Illigan of Yosemite,
every ten feet you're in to do family

417
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.240
place. So you're at Miranda's landing, this is the place where John Beck

418
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.880
once fell off the cliff, and
you're at all different plays like that.

419
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.160
At some point and there's somebody listening
right now who knows what place I'm talking

420
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.519
about, because I don't remember,
But you're at some plateau area. They

421
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.880
take you to where you're looking clear
across a canyon at another rock face that

422
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.920
also plateaus with no trees at the
top, just a beautiful canyon across to

423
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:32.039
other rock. And I'm standing there
in broad daylight looking across, and there's

424
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:37.440
a tree line on those rocks.
Straight across from me is probably one hundred

425
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.559
yards or more of blank rock,
and then there's a tree line somewhere over

426
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.880
there on that rock face would get
woods ear And I'm noticing, just my

427
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:49.799
naked eye, not binoculars or something, I'm noticing that there are at this

428
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:56.720
distance and at this height and this
far away look like stick figures moving past

429
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.319
each other and around each other,
maybe three or four of them, kind

430
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:04.160
of changing places. Just the black
lines they looked like to me at that

431
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.680
distance, and they're just moving over
here over there. And I'm watching this,

432
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.759
and I went out to my wife. I'm like, what is that.

433
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.960
He's like, I don't know,
and I'm like, it doesn't moving

434
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:21.000
right, yeah, And I don't
have any other explanation for what that could

435
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:26.039
have been. Standing at thousands and
thousands of feet height on a blank rock

436
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.839
face that no farmer would have gotten
to and certainly not four or five of

437
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.799
them moving around each other relatively near
the free line of the woodline. It

438
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:41.839
would be highly conceivable that was a
visual big foo sighting of multiples in broad

439
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.839
daylight. But I never got anything
that enabled me to see close and see

440
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.480
a tight zoom or anything like that. I couldn't give you anything else.

441
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.640
And I saw the arms and the
head and the legs. It wasn't like

442
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:56.119
that were just kind of black stick
figures. Issh moving. That's very interesting

443
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.119
because it sounds like you're talking about
quite a distance. If it were a

444
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.559
person, you probably wouldn't have even
seen them because they would have been too

445
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.200
small. Is that accurate? Right? And trees don't move? Yeah,

446
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.240
last time I check, trees do
not know. I've seen some videos online

447
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.799
where people say the trees will move, but I haven't seen that myself.

448
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:17.839
Unless they were filming and hr puffing
stuff over there. There was no explanation

449
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.680
for why that was happening. You
mentioned your wife a couple of times.

450
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:25.279
Obviously she was with you for both
of these incidents. Has she changed her

451
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:29.720
mind about or opened up her mind
to any of this big foot stuff since

452
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.000
you've had these experiences. Where is
she now versus even she used to be?

453
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.839
Yes, I definitely and long ago
because shortly after the Upstate New York

454
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.960
thing is when finding Bigfoot comes into
my life. And I certainly made her

455
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.839
watch many episodes with me that she's
probably seen at least a half dozen or

456
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:51.880
more episodes complete of that, she
certainly heard me talking about this topic with

457
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.200
many people, seen me reading many
But I'm the guy who we'd be on

458
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.720
vacation the Caribbean or something and laying
next to her and she's reading like some

459
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.359
role man's novel like women normally might
be reading. And I'm reading a book

460
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.640
that actually says on the cover like
the Bigfoot of Moss Canyon and there's people

461
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.400
walking around the beach in a rub
But what's wrong with this? It's really

462
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:15.359
an embarrassing book cover to be for
all that reading in some tropical resort place.

463
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.079
She's been married to that guy for
a while, so she's heard me

464
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.279
turn to her and go listen,
I gotta tell you what. The last

465
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.599
chapter I just read this fireman was
walking in the woods in Oregon. And

466
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.839
then so she's heard a million of
these stories from me and is not at

467
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.680
all like my father, where she
just you know, closes her eyes to

468
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.440
it and what am I talking about
it? She, I would say,

469
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:37.200
believes it. He's not radically into
it. He's not like sitting down at

470
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.400
DVR ing the same shows I'm DVR
and she's not hosting her own podcast on

471
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.519
the topic or asking to be on
mine. But I would say that she

472
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.039
believes it. I think she would
agree if she was sitting here on the

473
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.519
show that what happened to was upstate
was probably a big But I think she

474
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.000
would agree that is the morphological assessment. Here's the rub for me. I

475
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:59.759
am a skeptical person. I've had
experiences myself that I can't explain through childhood

476
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.599
and now throughout our time here on
our forty acres in North Carolina. But

477
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.480
I have not seen a sasquatch.
I have cast footprints, I think four

478
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.279
different sets of footprints at this point, and seen all kinds of things.

479
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.640
There's the Patterson Gimlin film, there's
the Freeman footage, There's a couple of

480
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.960
other things out there. There's the
footprint evidence. I've had plenty of conversations

481
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:25.000
with Jeff Meldrum. He'll convince you
in one conversation that these things are real

482
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.759
just based on the footprints alone.
Let me ask you, having not had

483
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:34.400
a crystal clear close up class A
siding, what have you looked at over

484
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.319
the years that has convinced you beyond
the shadow of a doubt that these things

485
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.359
are real? Is it the Patterson
Gimblin film, is it Freeman footage?

486
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.880
Is it photographs? Is it the
footprint evidence? What is it for you

487
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:51.240
that has stuck out for you that
has really solidified being a believer in Bigfoot

488
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.599
for you? The Patterson Gimblin thing, definitely, and the extense of studying

489
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.039
that's been done on it in the
recent years, Like there was some documentary

490
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.720
that had muns really diving into it
and frame by frame and it might have

491
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:07.880
been a high check documentary I don't
recall, but that one was very convincing.

492
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.279
I think you could show that to
almost any skeptic and have them on

493
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.279
board. All the eyewitness stories,
whether it's on Monster Quest or Finding Bigfoot

494
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:21.160
or any other similar show all the
eyewitness stories, there's loads and loads are

495
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.880
really compelling. One There's no other
explanation for so many of the stories.

496
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.720
We have to sit and listen to
on these shows or read about in books.

497
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.039
I agree that my story is not
one of those it because, like

498
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.440
you said, not class A.
So I wouldn't put my incident in that

499
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.039
gap. But I would say that
you and I both and anyone listening to

500
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:43.839
the show has heard plenty of stories
that are at the tier that I'm talking

501
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.000
about. Absolutely, And I'll tell
you one of the things that has convinced

502
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:52.720
me over the years is having conversations
with doctor Jeff Melodrome, talking to him

503
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.279
about some of the things he has
seen and taken a look at. As

504
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.240
far as the footprint evidence with Barrickman. I took a picture of one of

505
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.839
the things that I didn't get to
cast here on the property. It's one

506
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.920
of the only footprints that I found
that I wasn't able to cast because I

507
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.079
didn't have material with me. It
was raining, more rain was moving in.

508
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:15.319
I hung out with Cliff and Idaho
back over the summer and I handed

509
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:16.839
my cell phone and said, just
look at this picture and tell me what

510
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.960
you think of it. And he
said, that's a sasquatch footprint. Dude.

511
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.000
Of course I didn't cast her,
But you have conversations with people like

512
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.839
that because I doubt my own evidence. I doubt my own findings. I

513
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.640
doubt my own experiences. It's difficult
for me, but I too, like

514
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.200
you, believe ideal in anecdotal experiences. That's all the show is about,

515
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:42.400
is people's encounter experiences that they share. Over the years, I've heard so

516
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.720
many compelling ones, and I say
this all the time. If just one

517
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.920
of them is true, right,
if the person's not batshit crazy, they

518
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.960
didn't make it up whole cloth,
and they had the exact experience that they

519
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.640
say they had, then these things
are real. I'm on the side of

520
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.400
that. The Patterson Gimlin film.
I was teetering on the air edge for

521
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.079
a long time with whether the Patterson
Gimlin film was possibly a hoax. And

522
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.839
just over this past summer, I
did a couple of shows and I did

523
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.960
a breakdown of what Roger and Bob
had to say during an interview right after,

524
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.000
like I think it was five days
afterwards. I got it from the

525
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.760
Sasquatch Archives and he allowed me to
use that for the show. And I

526
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.719
went back and listened to what they
said five days afterwards, and then what

527
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.800
Bob said back in twenty nineteen,
and I compared the two, it's very

528
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.400
close. There was a couple of
things that were off, but in general,

529
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.119
I think that film is probably one
of the things that's put me over

530
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.920
the edge of saying yeah. And
then the Freeman footage. I don't know

531
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.639
if you're familiar with that or not
back in ninety two, but the Paul

532
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.880
Freeman footage is another thing that recently
just solidified it for me. And I

533
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.599
thought it was a hoax honestly,
until I started having conversations with Paul's son,

534
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.440
Michael. He just wrote a book
this past year, the Freeman Files,

535
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.519
And I sit down and talked to
Michael, and he told me the

536
00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:00.599
story about his dad capturing that film
and then coming home that afternoon and showing

537
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.159
it to him and his buddies,
and that was it for me. He

538
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.360
told me about the excitement. He
knew his dad better than anybody, and

539
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.760
I thought, who's going to hoax
their twelve year old son, right,

540
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.880
people don't do shit like that,
like people try to hoax you or hoax

541
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.480
me. But he didn't come home
and try to hoax his son. So

542
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.280
that sort of set me on the
path of Okay, there's something to this.

543
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.320
And then obviously my own experiences.
Let's talk about some of the other

544
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:27.719
weird experiences that people have shared with
you. This comes up on the show

545
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.960
a lot with the high strangeness and
the WU part of Bigfoot. How are

546
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:36.280
you on the WU part of Are
you open minded to some of these things

547
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.119
being a little bit more than flesh
and blood? Do you think there might

548
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:43.079
be some aspect to the telepathic communication, the mind speak? Where are you

549
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.440
on the high Strangers? I've tried
to talk about this with Matt Moneymaker on

550
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.280
my show a few times, and
I've gotten him to go further agreeing to

551
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.960
that possibility than I ever would have
expected i'd get him to. But I

552
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.119
fall very much on the and this
is going to piss off every pick for

553
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:01.440
the listener, but I fall very
much on the spectrum that it's really possible

554
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:06.800
that we're not dealing with a regular
blesh and blood creature, that we are

555
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.119
dealing with the alien creature. I
tend to think that's really possible because of

556
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:15.639
things like the Blue Planet Project pamphlet
book that leaked out, where the US

557
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.559
government is revealing in this leaked document
all of the alien species that they know

558
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.119
have visited Earth and where they're thought
to be from, and what their agenda

559
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.119
appears to be. And one of
the species in the book is called a

560
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:36.880
waddig wad ig and the artist rendering
of it is clearly a bigfoot, and

561
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.920
the description says, you know,
a wah dig, commonly referred to in

562
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:45.199
popular human culture as a sasquatch or
a bigfoot, is actually an alien creature.

563
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.480
This is like an elite government document. There's been too many UFO incidents

564
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.800
involving bigfoots where you have UFO landing
and eyewitnesses scene before which come or go

565
00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.079
from the UFO. There's been too
many bigfoot incidents where a raised a camera

566
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:05.360
to take a picture of a bigfoot
and it in a flash disappeared, or

567
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.880
a telepathically communicated with that rifle down. None of these are flesh and blood

568
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:14.280
shouting things. The elusiveness, the
fact that it's been so difficult to capture

569
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:22.079
on camera or my rifle or in
a cage points towards something superhuman. I'm

570
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:27.400
no big foot Puristan this way to
me, it's almost more likely than not

571
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:32.679
that we're dealing with something beyond regular
flesh and blood. Really great at hiding

572
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:37.719
American gorilla I say it all the
time. I've always been open to that.

573
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.159
I've always had everybody's experience, no
matter what it is. I had

574
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.599
a dude on the show a couple
of months ago claimed to have sex with

575
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.360
a female sasquatch. I aired a
show. I sat on it for three

576
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.760
months because I didn't think people was
going to take it seriously. But it

577
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.920
was his experience. Whether it happened
in his mind or it happened physically,

578
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.960
I don't know. But I had
that just a couple of weeks ago,

579
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.719
and aired a episod of a lady
Bridget who came on the show and she

580
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.599
had a roadside crossing incident with a
bigfoot. But she was on a track

581
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:13.880
to intersect some gray aliens because she's
a lifelong abductee. She said all kinds

582
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.639
of alien experiences throughout her life,
and she had this telepathic communication with this

583
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.920
bigfoot who basically was there to kill
her. It was working for the aliens,

584
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.159
so to speak. It was a
long drawn out story, That's what

585
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.840
I mean. There's so much crossover
in this Bigfoot world with the UFO thing,

586
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.039
and there's so many unexplainable moments in
Bigfoot Lord, like I said,

587
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.119
the guy who raises it the camera
and he's about this nap picture when the

588
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.559
bigfoot blinks out of existence. That's
not the behavior of the North American wood

589
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.920
ape. It's beyond what would be
the flesh and blood behavior stuff. Yeah,

590
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.039
and it's hard to explain. And
I used to say that those things

591
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:54.159
were mutually exclusive. Oh you're having
strange lights and you're seeing craft and you're

592
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:58.559
seeing orbs, and you have bigfoot
on your property. I used to separate

593
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.679
those and say, oh, there's
nothing to do with one or the other.

594
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.880
You just haven't a whole bunch of
weird shit go on. But over

595
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.920
the years of doing this, I
have said, and I've had Preston Dinnon

596
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.800
on the show a couple of times. He's a big UFO guy. Preston

597
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:15.239
told me many times, Brian,
everything's connected. And I just keep repeating

598
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.199
that over and over because the weirder
the stories get and the more I get

599
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:23.800
into the subject, it seems like
everything's inner weaves and connects for me in

600
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.679
some way. I just don't know
what that way is just yet. I

601
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.079
had a UFO experience myself when I
was like sixteen. Have you had other

602
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:37.079
weird experiences, ghost UFOs, anything
like that. Yeah, out of your

603
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.880
volksperience in La several years ago.
I always when I tell this story,

604
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:44.199
I always like to street map it
for the listener, and they could shit

605
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.599
with Google Maps and actually look at
it through their own eyes. I actually

606
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see what I was seeing. So, for those of you playing along at

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home, I was riding on Victory
Boulevard in La towards Van Nuys. I

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approached the corner of what would be
Victory and Supplvita Boulevart. Catch up at

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home on your Google Maps right now
on the street view of this with me.

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Stay tuned for more Sasquatch Odyssey.
We'll be right back after these messages.

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So I'm facing my cars facing eastbound
on Victory at Sapulovda, and I'm

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just at the traffic light heading to
Burbank or Shriman Oaks or something. I

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was going to a TV meeting or
something and heading that way. It was

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a time of day where I don't
want to be on the freeway, not

615
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because I'm scared of the freeway.
There's times a day in La not to

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be on the freeway. I was
sitting there and in broad day like crystal

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clear afternoon. While I'm waiting at
the traffic light, I can see in

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the sky directly straight in front of
me do East looks like roughly over save

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Burdbank. I'm seeing little silver dot
way up in the sky, just moving

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past each other, maybe a half
dozen of them, changing positions, circling

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around each other. One's over here, the next one's over there. He

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comes in touch and touches that one. They move away. Looks like it's

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way high. And they're not behaving
like healingum balloons or something which wouldn't be

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under control. They would just be
you know, lifting or blowing in the

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wind in an angle. These are
changing position, moving all the way to

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the left, then changing this one. That one'sziggs to the right and goes

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past this one, and just dancing
around each other. And I'm thinking,

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what the heck is that? And
it was so captivating in this two three

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minute traffic light cycle that I decided
to make a right and I pulled my

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car onto Pulvida. There's like a
paint store, like a place that sells

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like Benjamin paints for your half.
And I pulled my car through the right

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and pulled them to the parking lot
in front of that paint store. So

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the guy who's still playing along with
street View has just made this right ur

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and he sees on his right here
coming up any second. I was going

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to be like a paint place,
dune paints, whatever the paint companies are

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called. And I pull up in
that parking lot, and I parked my

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car, still facing east to keep
watching this. So the I'm not in

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Traft and I continue to watch just
another five minutes. I call my wife

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if I tell her what I'm watching. And I realized this point I need

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to keep driving on. I'm going
to be late for my meeting. So

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I decide I'm heading east anyway,
so I'll just feeble to keep my eyes

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on this while I'm going to continue
east. So I get back on the

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road and continue east. And then
as soon as I was like a block

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or two past that spot, I
don't know if they were gone, or

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I just I couldn't get the angle
right again, or it's just difficult to

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see as the trees keep coming up
as you drive. Just for whatever reason,

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it wasn't more than a couple of
blocks later that I was like,

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where are I just couldn't lay my
eyes on it. After that, I

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went on YouTube and I typed in
descriptions things that sound like what I'm describing,

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like little silver stapes changing at very
hot, extraordinary height and moving past

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each other. And there were numerous
UFO videos that looked just like what I

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had just seen. They weren't from
Los Angeles that afternoon, they were from

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all over the globe. But I
was seeing in these people's YouTube videos was

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exactly what I just saw. That's
crazy, man, I've seen some wild

655
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stuff. When I was up on
the expedition in Canada back in October,

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we watched crazy lights for two hours. They were way up there, but

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they were doing some things that just
defied gravity, stopping just right in the

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middle of the sky and making a
ninety degree left hand turn at probably two

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thousand miles an hour. It was
the crazy shit I've ever seen in my

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life. Man. My wife had
a UFO, like a black triangular UFO,

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fly very low over her car on
the way home from somewhere in La

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one time when she was on the
freeway like not like at two in the

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morning, either six at night,
like with many people around. She had

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a black that was our military craft
that looks like those UFOs seventy one.

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Yeah, yeah, she said,
like a ufother looked like that, come

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pretty silently, pretty low over the
freeway over her and hang around and leave

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while she was driving off from work
one time. Are there any crazy celebrity

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00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.679
stories that you haven't already told us
about that it's stuck out to you,

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whether it be bigfoot, UFOs,
alien abductions, whatever the case may be,

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that it's out to you as I
don't want to say favorite, but

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has really impacted you or stuck out
to you in one way or the other.

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On the show, I didn't get
into as much detail with him as

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I could ever should have because he
seemed really serious. But Shadows Stevens insisted

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that he worked for a family he
believed he now believes we're alien as a

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teenager living in like North Dakota,
wherever he lived, he worked for family

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the Coneheads like where he believes they're
an alien family. That was and he

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00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.440
went into a little bit of detail
about that. He believes you worked for

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a family of alien. It was
something I should have explored more deeply with

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00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.800
him. But Catherine Boch Daisy Duke
had a story of a dead person that

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called her on the phone, someone
that she knew who had died a friend

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or whatever that called her like a
month later or whatever that she answered the

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phone and it was him calling and
he was not a lot. She spoke

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to him for a little bit.
That is wild. We've talked a lot

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00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.679
about it. Tell everybody, hey, let's talk about where they can find

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00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:58.079
monstrosity. When do you post shows? What can they find when they get

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00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.840
over there and take a listen to
post shows about once a month right now

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to find the brand new episode that
just went up with Kelly who from Scorpion

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King the Beautiful Instants and Sorceress from
The Scorpion King with the Rock. She's

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also Death Strike and X two with
Hugh Jackman, and more importantly, probably

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00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.519
most importantly to me, he's former
Miss Hawaii. Anyway, she's on the

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latest episode. And I like to
write game shows into my show because a

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lot of times the celebrity is on
and then like we're going to be talking

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to Bill Burns from Ancient Aliens or
something in a few minutes, so to

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00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:39.159
transition from Daisy Duke or Peter Brady
from the Brady Bunch over to the UFO

695
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.920
guys, quite a train wreck unless
I find a way to smoothly make that

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book. So a lot of times
I'll write a game show into the episode,

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a paranormal game show for the celebrity
to play, which does a fun

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00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.440
kind of paranormal game show for them
to play that transitions us towards and now

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00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.039
we're going to talk to such and
such from ghost Hunters or what it?

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And with Kelly Who on the most
recent episode, we played a game called

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who What Where? And the premise
of the game was basically, I would

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00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.039
ask her if she were snorkeling in
Lockedness where there's obviously a Lockness monster,

703
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:17.119
what would Kelly who where? You
know? If she were alone in the

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00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:22.239
woods with a group of good looking
bigfoots, what would Kelly who where?

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00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.800
Now this game show, which is
on the latest episode of Monstrosity, which

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you can find on all the podcast
platforms, you'd think you'd find that on

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00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:35.639
on this episode when she plays that
game, be just like Jodie Sweeten from

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00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:42.039
Full House before her, and just
like Kanya Raymond from Billy Bob Thornton's Goliath

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00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:49.199
before her, All three of them
somehow inadvertently found themselves revealing that they would

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have sex with the Bigfoot. So
I don't know if these women are coming

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00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.079
on trying to ruin their careers.
I don't know if the goal is to

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00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.760
end their careers and one false sloop
on my show. Somehow, I've got

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00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:00.599
the girl from Full House discussing having
second with the big Foot and in the

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00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:06.039
latest episode, Kelly who from the
Scorpion King doing the same thing. Wow,

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what a way to end it.
I will link to Monstrosity in the

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show notes. You guys go over
and check it out. Show David Ray

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some love, David. I've had
a blast talking to you man. I

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really appreciate you coming on the show. Thanks for a lot of fund

