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Hey, welcome book. It's episode
fifty fucking something Fires the Fires Gift Class.

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What is this? Hey? Hey, are you doing you beatiful little

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babies? Daddy's Home and he's got
a podcast. It's Mike, that's Mary,

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that's Dan. Daddy's Home. You're
the youngest person on this show.

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Daddy's Home. He's gonna tuck you
in. Stop doing weird stuff. You

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prompted me. It's too much,
too soon. I've taken seventeen improv classes.

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I will never not kill a joke. I would love to see you

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in an improv troup. I've never
taken an improv class or done improv because

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it's never funny. If a good
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be pretty good. The problem is
that there's some good. A lot of

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people are bad at it. Yeah, oh the large majority or terrible at

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it, like ninety five plus percent
definitely terrible. One a very impressive.

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I've seen some good. She's good
at it, and I think she is.

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She's gotten in some good stuff.
Funny, it's funny. I saw

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that. Yeah, I was there
with you. I liked it because they

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like were weird as fuck right away, and I was like, Okay,

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I'm into it. I'm on their
wavelength and yeah, yeah, I liked

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it. Yeah, but everyone while
in LA. I've done an improv not

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a course, but like seeing improv, and they're not always bad. There's

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a couple in Portland that I think
are tougher, a little rougher all the

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edges. I think if you're going
to go to improv, maybe you're going

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to find more talent in the LA
area than you would in like rural spaces

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UCB in LA like the UCB Theater
there is pretty good. That was a

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Harold ramis Is quote Portland's where comedy
goes to die. No, I made

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that up, and a weird person. It's like, I don't know it's

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gonna say Robert Zemachus, Zamechis zamechis
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up there, Mike Mhardy, I
heard I heard from Bonk that last week

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he got a little intellectual with this
Kansas City boy. Yes, no I

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wasn't here, Yes you were.
No, Wait you had a Kansas City

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and yeah you had Chris Planned.
Here's a smart guy, right, different

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person. What do you mean when
did we get I got intellectual? Or

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did I heard the chat was uncharacteristically
intellectual for this Podcastmber, Yeah, you

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you're just bringing us down every week
other week most of the times that without

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you, I was like, I'm
unprepared for how highbrow this chat is getting,

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and I don't I can't chime in. Okay, that was Do you

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remember that? That was shortly before
Chris Plant did a vampire impersonation about a

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guy kicking him out of a car
and a Brooklyn bridge during a hurricane.

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So I think it got pretty low
Fitzgerald novel or something. I'm shot the

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thing everything and he knows the date
and he knows who made it. And

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then they were like, they were
like, who is don Quixoto's best don

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Quixote's best friend? We're back fires
gave cast is back don Quioto. It's

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those snobby Kansas City boys. You
can't trust him don Quixote. Did you

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just change it to don QUIXOTEO?
You're just shooting syllables into it. It's

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done, Keyote hands, thank you? Am I a stupid bupper supper.

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I can maintain my second place trophy
as not the dumbest we test. We

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should all take an IQ test.
I think there's a legit I think,

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for shoot, I think there's a
chance I could win that thing. Yeah,

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but I Q tests are bullshit.
That's like being good at trivia.

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It doesn't mean anything, but it's
a nice and if I had the highest

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one, I could gloat. We
could also do a spelling bee, which

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we have done before and you've won. But if we did an egg cooking

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competition, you would lose. Let's
measure our dicks where Mary would win win.

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Um, but how have you guys
been busy? Dan? You especially,

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you've been gone. You weren't here
less. Yeah, episode I was

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in califucking hell hole. Actually not
California, most San Diegolifornia is a hell

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hole. I was in Los Angeles, terrible city. Uh. But then

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I went to San Diego, which
actually was very delightful. I really enjoyed

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San Diego a lot, Like everything
about it seemed real cool. Wait,

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you've been to San Diego before that? Uh? Look for like one day

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for a Transformer story that I had
to do with performers, so experience it

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or know what I was doing.
So this time I got to spend a

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few days there doing the dream Hat
convention and uh, yeah it was it

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was a really good time. I
really enjoyed it. Yeah, fucking Supernintendo

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Land, fucking San Diego Convention.
It was a It was a whirlwind for

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sure. San Diego I always associate
with. Uh. We stayed in Airbnb

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for Comic Con. It's like justin
Haywall, Jake Decker, I think Eric

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Tay, Josh Shaw. We stayed
in the Mission Hills outside and we had

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the best burrito of my life right
down the hill. But then I remember

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the gas Lamp District. That is
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Yeah, that was really nice.
You really walk around to a lot

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of cool restaurants and bars and arcades
and stuff there. I would never get

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anything done if I lived in San
Diego. It was not The weather was

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nice. Everything was just really like
I really liked San Diego. Yeah,

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it was like cold in La.
Like everything about La sucks. But then

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the thing that's supposed to be good
is like, oh, palm Tree was

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in the weather and stuff, and
it was like fucking cold. It wasn't

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even that in the morning it would
be cold. Like when we went to

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Superintendo Land or World. We were
wearing jackets and jeans and stuff like that.

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And then we get there and it
gets super hot in the middle of

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the day, so it's it's shitty
and inconsistent, and god, I just

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fucking hate that city. It's just
terrible. LA's grown on me over the

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years. Do you believe you hate
it? I saw more. The more

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I see of it, the more
I like it. San Francisco's worse,

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for sure. Francisco has the perfect
weather in my opinion. It's always about

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seventy it's never too hot, and
it's never cold. It never snows,

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and it's never so hot that you
can't stand it. It's really ideal for

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me. I think La is really
nice, only at certain times of the

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year. It's so hot in the
summer in La you'd be miserable. And

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gets colder than you would expect in
the winter months for sure, Yeah,

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it never gets that cold. But
like, it's interesting coming from four seasons

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because I lived in Ohio most of
my life. I when I moved to

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San Francisco, I thought, man, this is amazing. It's basically spring

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for ever. But the second I
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a place with four seasons, I
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like fall. I like Winner.
I don't like winter being six months long,

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but I do like Winner, So
I prefer the four seasons now that

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I have it again, if you
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you know, weather situation, San
Francisco's is the best. I think like

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that, you know, sixty seventy
degree like that, it is really nice.

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But like you, I prefer the
four seasons. Like I like a

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good snowy day, and you know, I'm not big on a super hot

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summer day. But I like to
change. I like to change. San

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Francisco did not have enough thunderstorms.
I missed that too. They were worst

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never rained there or in LA.
What's interesting right now is that it won't

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stop raining in LA and everyone's freaking
out because they're not prepared for it.

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There's been a lot of like unprecedented
weather as of late. It won't stop

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raining in Portland either, but that's
normal. Everyone here is completely standered and

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expected it. We're all just be
grudgingly like it's the rainy season. We're

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not going to see the sun for
three months. We've all accepted it.

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By know. It always killed me
when I was living in Minnesota and I

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would see other game journalists, Like
in San Francisco, there'd just be a

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rain, just not even a storm, just it would rain one day.

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And I won't name names, but
I would see certain types that would always

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just be like, oh, really
rough out there, like they need to

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need to run the cvs, but
I just don't know if it's safe right

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now. And it's like it's fucking
sprinkling mouth mouth their names, so only

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US and video patrons know who you're
talking about. No, I'll, uh,

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you're ill. I'll i'll it's almost
fire escape you here. I'm going

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to call the fire escape you.
I'm curious. This is This is the

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guy that would always just be like
he was like god, you know,

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like reporting on a hurricane. If
he stepped outside in the drizzle away,

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Yeah, he shut the fuck up. He made a big deal, a

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lot of a lot of stuff,
a lot like breathing, like dramatic.

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Yes, game journalists are Yeah.
I think sometimes I connected to being a

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really good writer because a lot of
really good writers are in tune with their

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feelings, which means they're whiny little
bitches. Well, that tracks for this

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industry. I know I'm in touch
with my feelings, but I'm not a

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whiny little bitch. M I think
I'm touch with mine. I don't really,

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Oh, I'm in touch with something
on me. I stopped forcing those

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ones. You can't. You can't
make them all work. That's improv baby.

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You know it just felt wrong not
to swing to sing improv and Mary'd

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be easy because I would just say
that line and it always gets her.

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Yeah, I'm always like the audience
who also love signs by m Night Shamalan

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and hasn't soured on Mel Gibson.
I've soured on Mel Gibson, but like

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maybe they haven't. I'm also a
nostalgia junkie, so it doesn't matter how

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many times I've heard the same Simpsons
joke. If you reference an old Simpsons

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joke, I'll be like, that's
hilarious because I love it. So I'm

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just easy to please. Simpsons is
absolutely leave just like it's safe forever.

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I don't think you can overdo it. I don't think like I'm fine with

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that. I'll never get tired of
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sitcoms, if something gets too way
too quoted, I feel like the Office

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and that that's what she said stuff, or the Moore ad Impressions or back

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in the day like Boston Powers.
Yeah, baby around and it's funny again

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now though I went through the whole
cycle, it's pretty good. Like I'm

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probably gonna save my wife at the
way at some point, and it's gonna

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be funny. Are you gonna say
it? Um, and you're like nuptials,

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Yeah, and the marrying house.
He's gotta let me slipping. I'm

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say wife that way? Will you
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not the stand that's co at the
stage, I guess. Yeah, we're

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not gonna be We're not. Can
you please rise at the stand? Oh,

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I'm already up. I'm gonna do
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with the speedos, the whole character
pouring champagne out of a person when it

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because the bottle stuck in the guy's
ass um. But yeah, I hate

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improv. Yeah, it's really not
fun Yeah. Yeah. If you if

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you invite me to your improv show, which happens more often than i'd like,

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you make it good. Make it
good. Yeah, don't don't suck

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up, and if you fuck up, make it funny. That's the whole

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thing for me. Would Chris Plant
be good at improv um. Well,

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he's from the Missouri side of Kansas
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over there. No, No,
but Chris Plant says they're a bit cooler

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than you. Missouri. No one
says that. Mary. You know what

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Grandpa's epson says about missouris nobody goes
it'll be cold and dead in the ground

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before he recognizes Missouri as a stay
state. He has a flag that only

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has forty nine stars. I picked
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It's very funny to me because when
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he was always living in not ever
since, but when I first met him,

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he was living in New York.
I think he was in New York

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for like a dozen years or something, and then he moved elsewhere. But

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he still see like strikes me as
a New Yorker. Seems pretty New York.

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Yeah, but every three once in
a while, the Midwest slips out.

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You can't stop it. Yeah,
trying to think of the last thing

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it was. It's very rare.
You have strong opinions on barbecue. No,

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it's like, I think we really
do that. It'll be in casual

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conversation. It's nothing like specific or
like a factoid that I'm like, oh,

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that the fact that we can catch
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seconds. There you go. Well, Mary, you're kind of like me,

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but also kind of Midwestern. We're
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It is. I'm going to revoke
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I'm not provoke that I'm revoke you're
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Midwest is like I was surprised Minnesota
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Midwest. Maybe in Minnesota was North
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Missouri, Iowa, Illinois. You
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its own thing. You know,
it's the middle of the country that you

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can get in Colorado. You know, you get up to you got like

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the Great Plains, and then you've
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the Midwest. But Minneapolis or sorry, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan. That's

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more like three states, which I
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Great Lakes, Yeah, rust Belt, but rust belt's more like former that's

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like a more of a geopolitical thing. Syracuse's rust belt as well, formerly

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industrial cities that are now rusting.
I'm sorry to tell Mary though, that

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she's not Midwestern. I you can't
tell me that. You don't get I

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don't make the rules. It's just
can't revoke licenses. I went, I'm

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just breaking the news. I'm just
breaking the news. Why are not You

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don't get to make these up.
I'm from Kansas, which is the most

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Midwest. Well, apparently it's not
as good as Missouri. And now I'm

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on Chris plant side. No one's
gonna agree with you on that. Sorry,

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I don't most Missouri and Missouri,
and it isn't as good as Missouri.

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I love it is also not that
great. I love it very far

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southwest Missouri. They're just garbage states
that are going down the hill at the

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same speed. And well, Ohio
is the third. I'd say, no

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offense tall our Ohio overs of Ohio. The Civil War, those fucking Missouri

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assholes kept coming over because Kansas was
the free state and they kept burning down

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Lawrence over and over again. Which
state sounds like the cooler state there?

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Well, yes, Kansas. Well
I don't. I don't think Kansas sounds

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cool at all there, because why
would you keep rebuilding the city and letting

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it Lawrence is the one cool city
in Kansas. I I've heard good things

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from friends who have Bento, like
basketball and football games. I just don't

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want to live most places besides New
York. We've talked. I love Montreal,

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I love I love Minneapolis. I
had a really good experience in San

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Francisco personally compared to a lot of
people, but I would not move back

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there. I love to San Francisco. I just couldn't afford it. I

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loved everything about it. I just
couldn't afford it. I had to say

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no to so many things weddings,
you know, birthdays, okay, like

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traveling to other things. I was
like, I've hung out with you a

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lot in San Francisco. You did
not say no to many things I was

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proposed to. All the time,
I had to say no no. I

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mean like I couldn't go to things
because I couldn't afford to. Yeah.

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So I don't want to live that
way anymore. Where I have to plan

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whether or not I'm going to be
able to see my mom because I can

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only fly once a year, because
I can only save that much money.

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Very rarely, So it's just sucked. All my money went in the rent

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and you could never buy there.
No. No, I mean even people

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that are you know, my age
and have worked there forever and like make

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good money and stuff, they can't. You can't buy a house in the

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fucking Bay Area. Not in the
Bay never. Never. And I think

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LA is there too. Um in
the last like ten fifteen years, prices

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of skyrocket in in LA. And
I feel bad for a lot of my

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buds that live there because I don't
think you can afford to buy there either

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really anymore. Um, all houses
are pretty nuts. O. I wonder

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if we're headed for a collapse.
Is this what we talk about now?

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Or getting older? Yeah? My
mortgage, it's crazy, It is crazy.

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Yeah, Um taxes, Like so, I never really gave a shit

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about taxes. And the other day
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includes taxes, and my mortgage was
hire your mortgage is never goes up,

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but the payment was up because taxes
were higher, And I was like,

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what the shit is this? My
mortgage can't go up and it's because of

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taxes. It's because we're building like
a new fucking school. And I immediately

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became that like old person that was
like I don't want a new school.

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Yeah, you're going to use that
box, Like, hey, are you

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going to use this? And if
you don't, like I'm not going to

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drive on that road. Fucking school
I went to in prison. It's not

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funny. We have a lot of
problems incarceration. Let's sky. Why really

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second guessing yourself this episode. Why
just because you own a house do you

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have to pay tax on it?
I don't really, I don't understan anything

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about taxes, but like, why
just because I have a piece of land

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and a building on it or taxes
involved? It's not I think I understand

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sales tax, you know, Yeah, but what forever tax is the homer

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tax? The homeowner tax is permanent
because it's kind of what separates um like

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one of those giant things that you
get in your life. Once you're able

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to own property, they consider you
like more of a permanent resident of that

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state, which means you should have
permanent buy in for taxes the state.

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Yeah, because you're you're a resident, you like live there, whereas like

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when you're a renter, you're never
you are living there, but you're not

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considered like permancient. Yeah, I
love war, I love advertising. Missouri

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sucks. I'm a tax evader.
Who am I like? One of those

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things was true? I like advertising, advertising, school, war, war

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bad advertising, cool, never made
taxes, and Missouri does suck. So,

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okay, have you watched Madmen?
Have we talked about this before?

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Nobody started fucking Sopranos? Y?
Yeah, four episodes in the Sopranos.

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Wait, I thought you'd started before. Yeah, but it was back in

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college when I would like start shows
and just be like fucking around in my

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laptop while it was on in the
background, and so I didn't actually take

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anything in, So like, I
might as well be watching it for the

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first time now. It's really fucking
funny, and I think people forget that

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who haven't watched it in a while. It's one of the funniest shows ever,

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so far as you get into it. I didn't expect Tony Soprano to

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be playing Mario Kart sixty four in
one of the first episodes. The way

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he holds them controller is really good, and then he just puts his hand

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on AG's face. I do like
that show a lot. Yeah, very

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into it. Yeah, we got
We're like watching four. Is it four?

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Yeah? Four current shows? Did
you watch the new no spoilers,

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but did you watch Barry yet?
No? Okay, all right, there's

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just something Yeah. Three shows and
then we're doing Barry tomorrow. We're doing

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ted Lasso, Succession and um Marvelous
Missus Maisiel season four. I believe Teo

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so far, I am stopping down
with that show. I haven't seen it.

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We're just doing success or. I'm
I'm just doing a succession and the

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other one, uh something else behind
succession, and I think I'm up to

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date with Miss Maisel. The succession
one is Unfortunate is a bit of like

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a dark tale, but it's honest, which is I always watch it with

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friends, and then one of my
friends, UM got situation unexpectedly but literally

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we couldn't watch the episode. Oh
like, yeah, let's let's yeah,

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don't what's not? No? I
mean, I'm just saying, like it's

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I get what you're saying, but
we understand. Yeah, okay, how

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don't we do with that? Um? I think that's still pretty fresh.

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But I felt like I curved around
it like James McAvoy and one U that

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fucking Ever since I saw the Onuma
gameplay presentation and he shot that key sideball

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on the arrow and it went around
corners like James McAvoy the Nintendo stealing ideas

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again, I'm kidding um. This
weekend I flew to North Carolina to visit

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my sister. She turned forty and
we had a surprise fortieth birthday for her,

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which I thought. The one meat
is North Carolina, the one on

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Bottomer It's a stupid you really should
do him. I hate that guy.

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I should do stand up. I'd
be big, big. How's your sister's

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birthday? It was good. Lots
of interesting things that happened. In North

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Carolina. Having garage parties is very
popular there. So her party took place

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in a garage. This is standard
apparently to my knowledge, everybody there parties

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in garages. Um, and there's
built in bars in everybody's garage that you

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can serve you I'm moving to North
Carolina. Like drinks. Typically they had

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karaoke and speaker systems, and it's
all based in the garage. And so

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when you go to somebody's house,
it's essentially like going to a bar.

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That's awesome for that to be like
a standardized thing like I've seen those before,

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but not like standardized statewide somewhere,
like I would love to see that

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more. My friend had one that
was like he had his TV and couches

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out in the garage and then he
had this like little drum guitar and shit.

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But he was the anomaly. I
wish it was like a custom where

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I was from, I could do
that. It was. It's so prevalent

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that when we weren't drinking in my
sister's garage, she'd be like, we're

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going over at a Robin's house,
and Robin had a garage bar. And

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then we were like, we're going
over to Kat's house, and kat had

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a garage bar. We went to
Like we just kept going to people's garage

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bars and we would have drinks and
then we'd go to the next person's.

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It was like a very standard thing
there. I found it pretty fascinating.

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And everybody has more booze than you
could drink, like they have full bars.

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Essentially, it does feel like your
bar hopping. But when we did

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Katie's party, she didn't know we
were having the fortieth, so it was

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an interesting experience to surprise her and
then have all these subsequent party up like

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surprises. We had a this was
interesting, a Michael Jackson impersonator do a

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full set at the at the at
the party, like actually singing or like

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dancing. It was lip syncing to
hit to Michael Jackson's music Picture This.

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We're all sitting there and they turned
the music down and they go, Katie,

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this one's for you and your fortieth
and then they turn the music on

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and it's like the beginning to Beat
It, and my sister's like dancing,

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and then the garage door opens and
Michael Jackson standing there, yeah, with

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his hand over his hat, just
like you could imagine. And the guy

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even had that mike that goes in
front of your mouth like Michael Jackson would

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have if he was performing, and
he had everything that made it seem like

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he was doing a legit performance,
but was lip syncing the entire Beat It

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performance and did like the moonwalk and
everything. It was really surreal. Holy

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shit was it was a pretty like
dance moves pretty good. It was not

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bad. I think that considering he
was doing it on a cement walkway,

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he did a pretty good job doing
the moonwalk and his little spins and stuff.

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He was fully dulled up in all
the makeup and hair and everything.

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It was definitely like later Michael Jackson
if you're curious, like what style he

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was in at the time, But
it was like towards the end of his

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tenure. Yeah, and guy kind
of did have tenure. He did a

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bunch of fucked up stuff and he
oh yeah, yeah, it's a pretty

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crazy person. And then we yeah, towards the end, he he let

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everyone dance with him, and he
even he even had some cake with us

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when he was over. Michael Jackson
had cake with you, he did,

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he had some cake goodness. It
was Yeah, it was very interesting.

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And then and then the party bus, which was also a surprise to everyone.

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So there was a party bus that
showed up. We all got on

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the bus. Uh, we put
on Michael Jackson, and then we went

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bar hopping. I'm a big fan
of party buses. I think that is

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a great deal. Like it's almost
like a bummer when you get to the

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bars, because yeah, this was
really fun, Like can we just drive

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around more of this kind of cake
back here? It's only people we know,

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Yeah, it's not crowded everything everything. Yeah, yeah, we're moving

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on a road, which is a
fun novelty. We could put our hands

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over the driver's eyes and say,
oh my god, I don't know where

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you party bus I've been on.
Somebody has taken their pants down and put

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like smushed their butt cheeks against the
back window while the car is in motion.

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So this tradition. Look, how
many party buses have you been on?

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A lot? That was a movement
that happened every time. Pretty,

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that was a moving yours is you? No? No, I don't do

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but Willie and hilly stuff like that. I just solid that's a fucking girl.

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What is it? Oh, that's
just a several hamrhoid sweetie. That's

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really You've got like seven assholes.
God, look away. No, I

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would do a thing where if like
a party bus pulled up at a bar

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I was at in college and also
longer pass college that I should have a

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week ago. Yeah, basically,
just like up until I was like twenty

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eight, I would do this.
A party bus bulls up and I'll just

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convince everyone I'm with it's like,
let's just get on the party bus.

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And we would do it, and
we'd walk on and I wouldn't lie or

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anything. Really, we would just
like walk on. Somebody would be like

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eventually be like, hey, do
you know the bird the birthday boy or

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you know the couple or whatever.
It's like, no, I just saw

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the party bus. I thought it'd
be fun to come on and have some

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drinks, you guys, And every
single time, everyone's in such a good

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mood they're just like, yeah,
hey, random guy, and I would

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just wherever the bus win. That
becomes like the story we uh. Like

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a couple of years ago, we
were at this dive bar over in Brooklyn

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and we walked in and it was
like right after like things had opened back

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up. So we walked in and
we were standing at the bar. The

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back court yard was open, et
cetera, but it was all full and

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then this rehearsal dinner in the back
room, one of the guys came out

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to the bar, just like Kendall
Roy and it's like, hey, you

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guys looking for a spot. I'm
like, yeah, let's pack that over.

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I think we're gonna go somewhere else. You could come and hang with

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us if you want. And it
was like close enough after a lockdown where

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I saw the big like family crowd
in the back room, was like I

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appreciate it, but sometimes I want
that to happen again so I can go

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hang with some random family during their
rehearsal dinner. You guys are talking about

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like wedding crashers, but you're just
like crashing party buses. Yeah that seemed

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less. Uh, I don't know. Wedding crashing seemed like too much of

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a like a someone's wedding. This
is very expensive. This is like not

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I wouldn't feel comfortable crashing a wedding
necessarily, but like a party bus,

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like that's just a fun time for
everyone. Yeah, that's like not the

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most important day of someone's life.
No, that's someone getting fucking wasted.

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Yeah, exactly. Know this random
guy came up and that we're all friends,

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you know. Yeah, ideally partybus
are fun. Um. So we

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did the party bus and eight Barbecue
and Carolina Barbecue I did. Yeah,

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it was very good. It was
a couple of places there that have excellent

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barbecue grits. I had collared greens
and I had mac and cheese as my

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sides. Mac and cheese barbecue places
grits North. I have grits tonight.

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Grits are good as hell, underrated. I think I like gritz I haven't

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done that in a hot minute.
But I do love I love shrimp and

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grits. I've only done that.
I've never like ordered shrimp. I don't

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think I've eaten it. I'm not
like I won't leave a room if shrimp

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are present, but I don't go
out of my way to be near them.

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Them the weirdest way to say I'm
a different about something. Yeah,

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kids never left a room if there
were Irish people present, But I've also

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never like gone out of my way
to be near them. I'm just fine

403
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with Irish people. Yeah, but
now he's made you anti Irish. I

404
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.799
did not expect this turn. I
don't understand as the most Irish person in

405
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:17.440
games media. I can't think of
anyone who's Mico hardy Irish present. Yeah.

406
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.400
God, I can't think of anybody
either. No, North Carolina sounds

407
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.720
r though I don't want to go. It was cool. I used to

408
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.680
go there all time for like epic
stuff when I was in a game Informer.

409
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.279
And then there's extended family out there. So we was Raleigh, right

410
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:34.119
that Carry which is near you'd fly
into Raleigh and then go out to Carry.

411
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.279
Yeah, and then we got some
on the end. Last side they

412
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.000
got a trailer down there, so
we spent some time there during the pandemic.

413
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.880
And yeah, I like North Carolina. That's good. East Coast development

414
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:53.400
studios are always kind of in like
this random little spot outside for Axis epic.

415
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.000
Who else is out of around there? Maybe it's just them? Oh

416
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.039
no, there's like rock Star Bangalore. Are they still there up in Maine?

417
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:04.640
Oh? I didn't even know they
had one. I think it's like

418
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:11.000
a purely corporate spot, though I
don't think it's the actual studio though New

419
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.559
York doesn't have as many as you
would think. I mean they've got like

420
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:18.160
there's a decent like publishers and stuff
like private Division and Avalanche Avalanche, Yeah,

421
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.200
I mean rock Star. Yeah,
people can Fly has like a branch

422
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:27.880
here. Yeah. But rock Star, even though is largely like PR and

423
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.440
like some upper level, it's like
a corporate office for the most part.

424
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.039
Yeah, yeah, it really is. I wish there was more. I

425
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:37.839
do too, But I also kind
of like, now that I live here

426
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.079
at this age, I kind of
like that it's all over there away from

427
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.920
me and keep the games people out
of me. Yes, yeah, precisely.

428
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.319
Um, but yeah, God,
San Francisco, there are everywhere.

429
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.960
Oh, lousy with games media,
lousy with them. I don't like leave

430
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:02.839
the room when they're game developers there, But I don't developers seemed pretty pretty

431
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.400
like nice folks overall games media and
there the games media in sufferable idiots.

432
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:14.279
But a game developers seem all right, a bunch of babies, a bunch

433
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.279
of whiny bitches. As I said
not too long ago, I need to

434
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:24.240
get in touch with her. Shit. Um anyway, I want to talk

435
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.960
about video games. Sure, I
like video games. All right, we're

436
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.440
gonna get some video games. We've
been playing as usual. However, we

437
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:38.640
had a listener email voice message.
Close friend and family had a bone to

438
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.000
pick with us, Dan, I
don't know you frame it. I don't

439
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.240
know if she has a bone to
pick with us. It's Kayla, and

440
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.799
she's just insane. We've talked about
her radio rankings, and she has now

441
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.079
played through most of what I would
call like the real Resident Evil games,

442
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.839
which are like all the number numbered
ones and all the remakes. Well,

443
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.279
I guess you only played one in
two remakes. She never played the original

444
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.839
one or two or three? Um, so she sent it sounds like she

445
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.960
doesn't have a very good education for
this argument sounds like she has no grounds

446
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.319
to stand on. She's my family, but I will not defend this.

447
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.640
These are not my opinions or my
words at all. I'm just gonna hit

448
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.519
the button and play it. It
is very funny too, because people keep

449
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.319
sending her on her disorder, on
her community. They keep sending her like

450
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.359
more and more obscure as an evil
games and she feels if someone sends her

451
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:23.759
a game, she has to play
it on stream. So now she's done

452
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:28.799
Code Verona. Stop feeling that she's
been doing. She's doing both Revelations.

453
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.319
Now she got like umbrella chronicles.
So she just keeps getting and playing through

454
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:37.680
the first of all Code Veronica,
both Revelations and what was the These are

455
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.680
good umbrella chronicles? Oh that in
dark Side Chronicles. The Wesker Chronicles are

456
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.559
the rail games, not dark Side
Chronicles. That's a new thing coming out.

457
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.240
Wesker Chronicles, those are the rail
Laura dumps. Yeah. I just

458
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.279
find it very funny that, like
if she hates Resideaval two and four remake,

459
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.720
and yet she's playing through these fucking
like wee games, and even Resideaval

460
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.759
fans don't like It's it's very funny
to me. Very like your family though,

461
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:05.000
which is if it's a gift,
you're like, well, I I

462
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.360
have to I need it because it
was free, and well then I have

463
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.840
to yeah, yeah, yeah,
I need to take full advantage of this.

464
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.920
Yeah. It's like your father,
like fully involved. You know,

465
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.239
it's just filtering through to the children
with him. It's like if he sees

466
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.440
a half smoked cigarette on a parking
lot, then he asked to smoke in

467
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.360
the same same concept. Basically,
I'm gonna play on this. Okay,

468
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.840
never mind, I'm gonna hit play. I've not heard this. It is

469
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.519
a audio file from Kayla going over
her rankings. I think she recorded this

470
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.280
right after she finished four or five
or six or something like that. So

471
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:43.199
here we go. Hello fire Escape
through big fan of the podcast, listen

472
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.159
to it all the time, of
course. And uh, you know,

473
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.480
I've noticed that Dan likes to update
you guys about my Resident Evil Journey,

474
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.920
which you know, I have my
thoughts about it, and I know that

475
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:02.280
you guys are curious of my Resident
Evil rankings. That's where you're actually not

476
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.960
disclosure did not grow up playing these
games. I officially started my residume Evil

477
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:15.760
Journey keeping Ny February, three weeks
ago. In the order I was born

478
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.519
on a cold day, Reside Evil, Biohazard, then Resideval Village. Then

479
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.760
I played Resumeval one, two,
three, four, five, six,

480
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:29.840
and then Coveronica. So that was
all. So I played and beat nine

481
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.159
Reside Evil games. So officially I
am a Resonaval professional. I have a

482
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:39.880
fresh and popping perspective series that I
would love to share with you guys best.

483
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.280
Much like a YouTube video, this
recording could have started. Now we'll

484
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:50.679
go from my most favorite first place
all the way to ninth number one.

485
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:58.840
So here they are in first place, Resideval Village, second place, Residume

486
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:07.559
Evil Code, Veronica, Resident Evil
Biohazard, fourth place, resid Evil five.

487
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:14.039
Okay, it was actually kind of
cool. Three sixth place, Resident

488
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:20.960
Evil four, seventh place, Reside
Evil six in eighth place, Resident Evil

489
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:28.639
two in the last place where it
belongs, Resident Evil one. You belong

490
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.440
a long and happy life if I
never have to watch a door open again,

491
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.519
So take that as you would like. I know that you're probably seeing

492
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:45.400
in your praises a list right now, so feel free to send all your

493
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.880
fanmail to my peel box, and
I hope you enjoy that. See you

494
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.840
later. Fire Escape, thank you, kay. I will actually say that

495
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:59.360
ranking is thank you. Most of
that ranking is actually kind of interesting.

496
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.199
The first Yeah, first three,
I was like, okay, this is

497
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.760
Resumeal Village being number one. It's
actually not like that's a really it's a

498
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:14.159
good game. It's a very taken
as a strong like weirdo, I love

499
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.079
this. That's like a tim Turry
number two. So again that's weird because

500
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.920
she the fact that she couldn't handle
one or two because inventory management, but

501
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:27.280
she likes fucking Code Veronica. Of
all Code Veronica is the worst in terms

502
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.239
of inventory management. There's that whole
FIREX thing with your puzzle with the metal

503
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.519
detector that you have to like double
back around the entire Arctic research station,

504
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.840
and the thing where you can break
the game if you don't have the right

505
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.199
step for the tyrant fight. Like, I just don't understand how that's so

506
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.800
high on her list. Seven being
high is also seven very seven, seven

507
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:52.159
my second favorite Resumeval game. Seven's
like it's very very good, but six

508
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.599
being that high, and then yeah, one remake being that low. No.

509
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.760
Five was really high. I was
number four for her. Five.

510
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:05.079
There's nothing to write home about and
one and two remake being the last two

511
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.239
is but she played five Yu Dan. I think that that can make it

512
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:14.800
go up, because playing with a
friend or family that you enjoy really does

513
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.079
elevate and experience. Yeah, and
honestly I had fun with it. Two.

514
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.159
I saw more of its flaws like
I talked about, but it's it

515
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.400
was fun honestly, even six was
kind of fun. Up one remake is

516
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:28.280
one of my favorite games. Ever, However, I'm not surprised when people

517
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.719
say they don't like it if they
play it for the first time today when

518
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:36.320
they're like upper twenties, I don't
as salt them for that. But remake

519
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.199
is so to remake that, to
remake that low is what throws me.

520
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:44.199
I mean, that's just it.
That's just wrong. And to put three

521
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.519
above both of those is just confusing. I like like the original three more

522
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.719
than I like three remake, which
is a weird outtake. Remake is there's

523
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.679
just not forgettable. There's not a
lot there. It's so thin, and

524
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:01.159
it's got like really you know,
wacky lines. Yeah I did. I

525
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:06.639
didn't love it him, Yeah,
sucked up. It's better than having a

526
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.440
boring ranking. I guess. I
guess that's yeah, there you go.

527
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.760
I'm being the nice one. I
can't believe she told us her whole life

528
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:19.079
story before explaining she gave the date
I think we're talking about. She gave

529
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.119
the date that she started playing her
resident. It was like an essay that

530
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:30.599
you write class. In this essay, I will prove that I am a

531
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:37.679
resident evil expert. Furthermore, ergo, I have come to the conclusion that

532
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.880
perchance you can't just end a sentence
in perchance. Oh is the Mario thing

533
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:49.760
you're doing it? Yeah? Um, okay, I'll give Kayla's ranking.

534
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.960
Yeah, let's let's four out of
ten. Let's I'll give it a two.

535
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.840
Fire escape it. I would say
that fuse fuse it. I don't

536
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.000
think I have the button right now. God damn it, just to a

537
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.400
fart. We have not fused anything
in like thirty episodes. Yeah, we

538
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.079
gotta get back on that. I
couldn't possibly give her more than two.

539
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.400
Okay, I think two is good, So we'll average out of the three,

540
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:16.880
or it's actually like a high two
if we were road two and he

541
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.760
was a four. Four is just
purely because it's like a unique list.

542
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:25.440
Yeah, she's a unique person.
Yeah. Before Yeah, I went to

543
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.679
a comedy seller. Yeah, it's
fun. We don't hate her, I

544
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.280
don't definitely don't hate. Don't hate
my sister. She's fantastic. She's just

545
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:42.199
insane. After that list, do
you love her more or less? You

546
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:50.119
could say a little bit less.
You don't lie exactly the same. Would

547
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:54.800
you leave video as you just saw
Dan wink and shake his head and watched

548
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.960
him squirm? You followed team Kayla
on Twitch. She does a great job

549
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:08.880
up playing through residentavals on Twitch.
Yeah, followers less less love. That's

550
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:14.079
the trade off. That's right,
I'll take it. I supposedly blue check

551
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.760
marks are going tomorrow again. I
can't heard that. Yeah, I can't

552
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:21.440
good. I want Twitter to burn
again. I want it all. I

553
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.760
was so excited. Remember there are
those nights where everyone's like doing their like

554
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.039
memories of Twitter and stuff's like,
oh, it's not going to be here

555
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.960
in the morning, it's all crashing
and burning. I really wanted it to

556
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.280
actually I wanted them to fucking die
that night. And it's shambling along.

557
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.880
It's getting worse and worse and worse, but like I wanted to actually die.

558
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.840
I want it to be done,
and I want to lose the check

559
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:43.559
mark. I want all that stuff. Um, it's just it's kind of

560
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:49.559
still happen right, Like giant news
outlets are leaving everything now right. Microsoft

561
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:53.840
said they're they're done supporting Uh what
do they say? Microsoft said that their

562
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:59.800
API campaigns, which is like this
marketing packages, will no longer support Twitter

563
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.440
because Twitter's charging big companies like forty
six k a month to be part of

564
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.360
those. Yeah. Insane, Yeah
so that yeah, anyway, you know

565
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:13.440
it is not insane, but kind
of because there's like this insanity panic meter.

566
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.920
Is the game Dredge? Oh I
want to hear about I know Lucy's

567
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.920
hot on it. I've heard good
things about it. Tell me what this

568
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.199
deal is in why I should play
it As someone who appreciates like a very

569
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:30.840
tight, nuanced gameplay loop that can
keep you coming back and hooked and rewarding

570
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.360
every step of the way. Dredge
nails it. It's like, sure,

571
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.599
it's a fishing game, but it's
got this incredible like, Okay, go

572
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.679
out fish, grab a couple certain
kinds of fish, maybe dredge a little

573
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:46.920
bit for supplies from shipwrecks, and
then come back trade it into certain villagers,

574
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.320
and it's super quick. You go
back to the village and you click

575
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:57.599
on one icon that's like the shipwright
or the tradesmen or whatever, go back

576
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.280
out fish, and then night starts
to fall. You've got this like day

577
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.559
night cycle, and obviously if you've
gathered anything from the game, it kind

578
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.159
of takes on these lovecrafty and horror
elements. I haven't seen a single image.

579
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:13.960
I don't even know how to look. Is it start fishing? Is

580
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:19.639
it like what type of fishing?
Is its third person? Um? Is

581
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.079
it trying to compare it to what
game it would look like like Watercolory Indie

582
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:29.119
looking Um. Yeah, it has
like a maybe like a low poly third

583
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:35.519
person but it's not top down.
It's it's um isometric, and the actual

584
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.239
fishing element is two D. It's
typically a timing thing where you're hitting X

585
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.559
at the right time or you're moving
up and down at the correct time to

586
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:50.559
get the fish. But traveling around
on the boat is very wind wakery.

587
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:57.800
You yeah, you are controlling the
boat and moving around with your left joystick.

588
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:02.679
It plays like a dream on the
steam deck and traveling around in the

589
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:13.360
ocean has these wonderfully like iconic moments
where sometimes dolphins will start swimming up next

590
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.559
to your boat, and a whale
breached in front of me once and I

591
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.840
actually went, oh my god,
like it's like I would if a real

592
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.360
whale breached in front of me.
I had these. I had so many

593
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:31.599
moments where I yelled out loud because
this game really surprised me. As Mike

594
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:37.920
said, the lovecrafty and element is
really interesting too. What hooks me The

595
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:43.159
gameplay is fun, but what hooked
me is the bait. Right away,

596
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.760
they start saying that something weird is
happening at night. The former fisherman went

597
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:52.920
crazy, and to be careful swimming, or like swimming, be careful fishing

598
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.519
at night. And if you keep
your boat out at night, weird shit

599
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.800
happens to you. Oh, stuff
starts coming out of the dark. You

600
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:07.239
see eyes staring at you, whispers
in your ear, and then you'll actually

601
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.400
get attacked by stuff like there's crazy
like there's tentacle stuff, there's ghost sharks,

602
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.679
there's all sorts of stuff that starts
to like come after you. I

603
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.559
think what's fun, though, is
the surprise element of it. So I

604
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:22.760
hate, like I don't want to
give all it away because I think experiencing

605
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.599
those surprises. It's like an eight
hour game total if you play through it

606
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.159
supposedly, do you know if it
runs well on Switch? I don't know

607
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.800
the Steam Deck, and I couldn't. I couldn't recommend steam deck more.

608
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.000
It's such a wonderful game on the
Steam Deck, man, I don't.

609
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.599
I don't know why. I for
some reason, whenever people were talking about

610
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.880
I was picturing, I thought it
looks like down well. I thought it

611
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.199
was like like black and white pixel. No idea why I thought that.

612
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.960
But there's just I wanted to look
at this some of these images. Yeah,

613
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.639
so it's you come back to towns
and when you're talking to the mayor

614
00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:00.719
or the ship. Right, those
character models take on more of a disco

615
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.840
elysium kind of watercolor. They're really
good looking, but most of the game

616
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:09.440
is that kind of low poly.
Yeah, maybe Unity Engine kind of look

617
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:14.679
it's very simple like minimalists. I
think it's really good looking. There's you

618
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:19.119
go to New Islands. You meet
this engineer, weird scientist over on this

619
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.639
island with a lighthouse, and he
gives you more missions. I'm trying to

620
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.280
think of what game reminds me if
it does remind me of Started Valley in

621
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.840
the sense that like there's this day
night cycle, and in this one day

622
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:37.599
you're like, Okay, the fishmonger
wants three sting rays, four giant bass,

623
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.960
and then two carp That alone will
get me more money because it's a

624
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.960
specific quest he gave me. Otherwise
you can still selfish to make money.

625
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.400
You do those quests. So that's
your day right there. Sun falls while

626
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.159
you're getting your last carp It gets
kind of creepy. You turn your lights

627
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:58.599
on, which you can upgrade.
The lights will help you not crash into

628
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.239
rocks, which will require repairs when
you get back, but they will also

629
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:07.079
they're more likely to attract weird shit
at night. So you get back to

630
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:13.119
the village. Maybe it's like four
am. You could sleep. You talk

631
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.280
to the ship right in the morning
to repair your ship, and then you

632
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.280
get new research stuff. It's like, oh, a better rod to catch

633
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:22.719
ocean going fish and not just shallows
fish, as well as a more powerful

634
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:28.480
light, a faster engine. You're
kind of constantly upgrading stuff, so it's

635
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:35.360
like survival light elements meets crafting,
but it's all like really bite sized.

636
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:39.079
You're not out on the yeah,
the horror stuff is like really well done

637
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:45.119
because it kind of sneaks into that
gameplay loop. There's been a couple times

638
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.199
where like my ship got really fucked
up and I had it took me like

639
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.639
ten minutes to get back to town, which is rare because most of this

640
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.360
game is really cool, like pick
up and play bite size like go on

641
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:04.400
the water. A day in game
is probably like five minutes and it's click.

642
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.800
Yeah, it's pretty rapid fire,
like go pick this stuff up,

643
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.920
dredge the shipwrecks. Get oh,
the stuff I just picked up from the

644
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.039
shipwreck. One of these things I
could just sell. But another this widow

645
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.159
on that island wanted to remember her
husband, so she'll give me this thing.

646
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:21.119
It's it's just like a really tight
gameplay loop of like they're back,

647
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:23.039
they're back, Oh right, ten
other things I could be doing right now,

648
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.199
But it never feels overwhelming. It's
the creepiness of it that really gets

649
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.719
me. If you fish at night, Dan, sometimes you'll get the weird

650
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:37.639
ones and you'll get a variation of
a fish. They're called to aberrations,

651
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:39.320
and they will be like or I
think that's what it's called, and they

652
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:45.519
it'll be a bass, but maybe
it has no skin, so it's like

653
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.880
all the meat and bones. I
love that because like I'm a sucker for

654
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.440
even like straightforward like stardu or animal
crossing fishing stuff where it's like, oh,

655
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.599
this season or this time of day, I can catch this. Oh,

656
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.800
but I gotta go at night to
catch this thing. It sounds like

657
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.000
this has that, but also with
like a weird element to it. It

658
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:05.960
has a fucked up element. And
the drawings just like how he was saying

659
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.639
how the drawing of the mayor is
really good and artistic and a little creepy.

660
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:14.519
The fish are fucking creepy. So
if you get a weird fish,

661
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:20.199
um an alternate version of a fish, sometimes it's an absolute freak of nature.

662
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.159
I saw ones that were like all
teeth man, just like teeth on

663
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.960
teeth on teeth, and then they
have descriptions of them as well that help

664
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:34.280
explain what happened to them or like
what's wrong with them, and they're really

665
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.119
messed up to all. The writing
is really messed up. You find bottles

666
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:43.639
in the water and they're telling a
story and the story gets really creepy,

667
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.760
and you'll meet people who will need
things from you, but they'll be really

668
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:52.800
creepy. Everything's so creepy. I
met. I went to an island randomly,

669
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.840
and I met a hooded figure in
green that was like brain May at

670
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.320
aish and he asked for a very
specific fish. So I go get it

671
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.360
for him, and I deliver it
to him, and the text said that

672
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:07.719
before I could even give it to
him, he snatches it and just eats

673
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:12.719
the head right off and like grinds
it in his teeth in front of me.

674
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.000
It's just like these like weird descriptions
that make you really stressed out.

675
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:24.480
There's an area in the aisles where
you have to get something and you can

676
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:31.800
hear a fish tracking you or being
near you, And the first time you

677
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:37.559
can see that you could possibly be
hunted or be in danger from some of

678
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:42.599
these creatures, it freaks you out. I fell in love with this game.

679
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.639
I beat it this week on stream. I've put more than eight hours

680
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:50.280
into it at this point because I'm
trying to get all the fish. I've

681
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:58.119
fully upgraded my entire boat, I've
gotten all the collectibles, and I absolutely

682
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:02.519
adore this game. Similarly to Zelda, it said, you have everything you

683
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.880
need, would you like to finish
the game, and I said no because

684
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.480
I can't stop playing it. Okay, this is yeah speaking like I am

685
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.039
looking for something between this and Zelda, and I don't really have anything I'm

686
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:20.440
playing right now. This sounds ideal
right now. Also, the inventory management

687
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:27.360
your cargo space is a Tetris esque
resuval for inventory. Case you have to

688
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.239
say no catch you catch certain fish, like the car will be t shaped,

689
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.719
you know if it Tetris them with
the the man raise, which are

690
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:39.199
huge, but they're sharing space with
your rods and yours and your engines.

691
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.039
Yeah, so sometimes you have to
get you have to like say no.

692
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.360
You'll get like a giant, amazing
fish and you'll be like, I literally

693
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:49.639
don't have room for this. Um. There are people that get on your

694
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.039
boat and you have to make room
for them. It's really interesting. That

695
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.920
sounds awesome. Okay, it's good. Yep, yep, Okay. I

696
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:58.280
mean I think by the next episode
I will have played it. Think it

697
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.840
might be second or third favorite game
of the year so far. It will

698
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.000
be in my top ten, no
question. What big ones have come out

699
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:07.679
this year so far. My favorite
game of the year so far as Octopath

700
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.519
Traveler too. Oh Okay, so
Dredge and resume before are both Oh yeah,

701
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.679
yeah, yeah yeah. Bonk has
been playing I don't think this is

702
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:21.400
new, but Bonk has been playing
not fucking down Well dome Keeper. Uh

703
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:25.840
yeah, that came out a while
ago, right, For some reason,

704
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.400
I thought it was a couple of
years old. But every time I passed

705
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:30.599
by and I look at the screen
as she's been playing, and I'm like,

706
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.559
I like everything I'm seeing right here. It looks just super dewey.

707
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.280
It looks like, you know,
it's got like almost like a missile command

708
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.440
type thing up top and then instead
it's like rogue like down bottom. It

709
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:44.639
looks really really cool. Like,
that's another one I want to check out.

710
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.199
Me. Haunted Chocolate Tier is supposed
to be this year. Yes,

711
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:52.840
what's that? It's a sequel to
start you it's it's it's chuckle Fish.

712
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:58.280
It's the guy that made that.
It's not a sequel, but it's the

713
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.519
same same guy, the same guys. It's starting valley, but you're a

714
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.840
chocolate tier in a haunted mansion,
like selling Chocolate to the showed a trailer

715
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.079
for this sometime, right. It
was a direct or, was it?

716
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:10.400
No? It was a state of
play, I believe, okay, and

717
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:14.400
that's coming out soon. I was
asking, I don't know if there's this

718
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:16.880
year or not, but yeah,
it's uh, what's his name is chuckle

719
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:21.599
Fish or that a publishers. I
think it's chuckle Fish. I mean I

720
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:25.840
think that's the developer that's like pseudonym
or whatever. It's the next star to

721
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.440
But yeah, you're a chocolate tier
in the like lobby of an old medieval

722
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.400
haunted castle. Is there like like
crafting farming type stuff involved? Yeah?

723
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.239
Yeah, really you're instead of a
farmer, you're a like artist and chocolate

724
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:43.440
maker. But what who goes into
like like a farm is like animals and

725
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:46.440
vegetables and beards, like chocolate is
just that's where the haunted part comes in.

726
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:51.079
Yeah. Like, yeah, I
was gonna say, I like that

727
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:53.480
you're saying it's nothing like farming.
But then you're like, I realized,

728
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:55.719
I don't know how chocolate is made. I don't know if you're going to

729
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:59.400
actually be going from the cow.
Do you think that you'll be getting the

730
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:01.440
cocon Yeah you can. You can
tell me it's made from eggs, and

731
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:05.880
I would believe you. There's eggs
in a lot of chocolate, but like

732
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:10.960
you could be going to get the
actual cacao from a jungle. But I

733
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.880
imagine it's just like stuff being transported
the castle. I have no idea.

734
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:23.079
The mind wanders, imaginations run wild. What a time time, I don't

735
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:28.840
know. I was just God,
video games are so fucking stupid. Yeah,

736
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:30.880
yeah, yeah, I think.
But no, Dredge is fucking awesome.

737
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:36.280
It's it's good steam neck game and
I have not heard any complaints on

738
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.480
Switch, so either one would be
good. Dredge is my number one game

739
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:43.159
I'm looking to play next. Oh
you'll pick You'll pick it up, and

740
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.119
then it will be three hours later
and you'll excellent. Yeah. Amen,

741
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.880
good. We're talking about crafting in
the Sufferia. And I want to bring

742
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.599
something up here because I have not
played this game much at all. I

743
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:57.880
was just getting it ready because I
think we're gonna play it on Giant Bomb,

744
00:54:57.960 --> 00:54:59.760
and so I had to get to
the point where could unlock co op

745
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:04.159
and at Island two and so I
have no thoughts on the game as a

746
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.079
whole, but it made me think
of a couple of things just in the

747
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:07.800
twenty minutes I played or whatever.
First of all, I thought this game

748
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.719
has come out like eight times,
because the first one came out forever ago,

749
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.639
right, it was like fucking twenty
twenty third around there, right,

750
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:22.559
And then there was Dead Island riptide
right, yes, which felt like was

751
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.199
that not a sequel? What was
it was? Yeah? I don't know,

752
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:29.960
it wasn't. It was an expansion
that turned into a it has a

753
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.559
different case. It was a standalone
game, yea different four characters. So

754
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.320
I assume that was Dead Island two. And then Dying Light comes out and

755
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.280
it wasn't Dying Light like supposed to
be from the developers of Dead Island and

756
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:43.159
the game, so I kind of
assumed, like, oh, well,

757
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.599
that's the next Dead Island it is. So that's why Dead Island two is

758
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:50.760
was kind of weird and obsolete to
begin with, because Dying Light and its

759
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.199
sequel are both, in my opinion, very good games that kind of rendered

760
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:59.400
Dead Island's formula obsolete because they took
a team. Is it the same team

761
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.119
that made The Winter? Is this
just a total they on the IP or

762
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:07.599
something? No? So this one
between three studios. The final release was

763
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:12.199
from Dambuster Studios. I believe they're
Dutch. Might be wrong there, Okay,

764
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.760
but it was a trio of studios
that passed between that Deep Silver kind

765
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:22.320
of moved it between. Actually,
now I'm curious, Well, I started

766
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:24.039
to get to the co op stuff, and it's like I got anything about

767
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.719
crafting because like just in the first
you know, ten fifteen minutes or whatever,

768
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.519
I noticed I was like picking up
like, oh, you got a

769
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.119
plank of wood and you got some
bolts or something, and I could just

770
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.480
tell the way the weapons where it's
like, oh right, there's one of

771
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.840
those games where I'm doing a lot
of crafting and stuff. And I realized,

772
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.840
like, hey, does crafting suck? Like there are games where it's

773
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.599
really good where it's like I think
games that are focused around it, like

774
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:50.119
Stardo, Minecraft, Valheim, The
Forest, you know, games that are

775
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:52.800
very much survival like like this is
the system is like that is the game

776
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:57.679
is the like crafting and surviving and
everything. But like I think like that

777
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.920
Island is a I think more in
first person action games open world type stuff.

778
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:06.079
Isn't it just more of a hassle? Like at this point, I'm

779
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:08.800
trying to think of, like I
hate crafting outside of crafting dedicated game.

780
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:14.639
Did you like crafting in God of
War No, No, the New Ones

781
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:16.280
No. Well I guess well,
then I would think, like maybe our

782
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:22.760
edge is that like sometimes crafting is
an essential core mechanic of the game because

783
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.079
it's about discovering and putting things together
and finding out what you can do with

784
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.360
it. Whereas I think in the
games we're talking about, they were like,

785
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.800
well, we need a way to
do upgrades. If you find shit

786
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.119
in the world and then you find
enough of it, then you can upgrade

787
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.960
your weapon, which doesn't feel as
satisfying to me. Like I feel like

788
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.280
though, if the game is like
an action game, like I don't know,

789
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:45.320
like the Old God of Wars or
Devil May Cry. I know those

790
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.719
are cyclist action games that's different than
what we're talking about, but like you

791
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:51.719
just got red Orbs and you just
funnel the red Orbs into whatever you want

792
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:52.639
to, like, yeah, level
up all your bullshit with red Orbs.

793
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:57.440
Like I don't get any more satisfaction
by like oh, I found some tape

794
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:00.960
and some scissors and some solution,
and you know, like I didn't just

795
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.199
did Last of Us. I did? I did, And like I'm trying

796
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:07.199
to think, like is it fun? Is anyone do we like this?

797
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:12.400
I like when you have genuine choice. So what I liked about the last

798
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:15.559
of a system and that exact example
that you're bringing up, is that when

799
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:22.559
I found Solution and when I found
Rags, I could make bandages with it,

800
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.039
but I could also make maltav with
it, so I could choose whether

801
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:30.039
or not I was making something for
violence or making something for defensive for myself,

802
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:31.559
and I changed it based on what
I needed at the time. That

803
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:37.760
was fascinating. It was about like
giving me autonomy to decide what I needed.

804
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.159
Us did a good job with it. That we Last of Us was

805
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.880
like it was simple enough. There
were like, you know, a handful

806
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.599
of different things. You got it
and like occasionally would find a bench and

807
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:49.800
could do stuff with it. I
think I'm thinking more of like Horizon,

808
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.159
Like, yeah, Horizon, were
eight million dumb fucking things that don't mean

809
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:58.400
anything and they're everywheres so nothing feels
like it matters, versus like you go

810
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.440
into a supply room you found were
like, yes, exactly where it's like

811
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:05.679
Horizon, You're just constantly picking shit
up. And I'm not trying to just

812
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.360
single out Horizon, but like there
are a lot of games like that,

813
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.840
whereas you're constantly picking shit up.
None of it feels special, and it's

814
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.280
just busy work to build a fucking
stick weapon or something. You know.

815
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.679
It's yeah, it's like that.
It's a combination of scarcity, which Last

816
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.039
of Us does well. Like when
you find stuff, it works because you're

817
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.920
already so ill equipped. Fallout I
like it as well because a lot of

818
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:32.119
that stuff Fallout A is more obviously
this open ended RPG where you're building this

819
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:37.880
huge inventory. Dead Island, it's
more like the difference between the spike baseball

820
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.440
bat and this electric machette. There's
still ultimately doing the same thing and then

821
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.880
hitting two. Yeah, there's no
scarcity too, and that first I played

822
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:53.320
Dead Island two up until I defended
those rich people's house, until the character

823
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:59.679
from the first game showed up with
the shotgun to the actor um, and

824
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:01.199
I just got bored really quickly.
And it was the same problem I had

825
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:06.599
with the earlier games, where scavenging
doesn't add to the game because you stop

826
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.840
paying attention to what's around you.
You're just looking for It doesn't matter what

827
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:14.119
those little items are. You're just
picking the shelves clean and you're just like

828
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:16.639
putting the camera really close to the
shelves, whereas Last of Us are still

829
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:22.039
paying attention to your surroundings because the
items are not littered everywhere, and there

830
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:23.679
might be a zombie right around the
corner. With dialand too, it's like

831
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.440
there could be a zombie right around
the corner, but it's still this dumb

832
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:32.559
action game. Yeah, Dying Light
figured that out because Dying Light actually made

833
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.039
night scary because the zombies get fucking
terrifying at night and you're sprinting and you

834
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:42.000
can look behind you and there's the
park or element we talked about at Game

835
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.199
of the Year Dying Light Two's grappling
hook. There's there's a lot more at

836
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:49.559
playing Dying Light. And so tech
Land moved to Dying Light, and then

837
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:54.440
Yeager, who did spec ops the
line. Yeah they did some weird stuff.

838
01:00:54.440 --> 01:01:00.800
They also did dreadnom Yeah they did
Dreadnought that ship to ship dog Fighting

839
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:07.559
sixth thing. It was spaceships,
but it was like dog Fight specific,

840
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:12.119
like it was almost a first person
shooter but you were using spaceships. It

841
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.440
was actually really fucking cool. I
don't know what happened with it, but

842
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:21.000
then it went from Yeager to Sumo
Digital and then it went from Sumo Digital

843
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:25.800
to dam Bus or studio who released
it. But it just I'm playing Dying

844
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.320
or Dead Island too. I'm like
I would, I would just much rather

845
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.840
go play Dying Light too. Sign
Light two figured out a lot of these

846
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:38.639
problems to keep you engaged in this
world that that Island two has not seemed

847
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:43.360
to do. Give you a lot
of mobility, something that was really interesting

848
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.880
about Dying Light. I mean,
you're You're so right. It solved a

849
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:52.119
lot of problems that it also added
so much gameplay element climbing buildings, being

850
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:58.079
able to run and dive and jump
away at such a speed. I'm turning

851
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:02.280
around and seeing the zombies chasing like
that. Um. Environmental damage was extremely

852
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:07.960
fun in uh in that game.
And I just think like this at this

853
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:13.119
point, it's not that we're not
interested in zombie games. I'm very interested

854
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.519
in zombie games. But you do
have to move forward, and I don't

855
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:21.760
see what this is doing that we
have an already experience, Like what's new

856
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.039
about Dead Island. What I'm hearing
you say is it's time for Dead Rising

857
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:30.880
to come back. Yeah? God, I loved Rising. Um Well,

858
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:36.760
firstly, Dan Busters not dutched their
English. Um. And secondly, I'm

859
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:43.440
so fucking done with people setting games
in this like ironic California. Oh my

860
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:51.719
god, we're movie stars and it's
Dead Island too, And none of these

861
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.320
studios are American, and even the
studios that are American like have this,

862
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:59.599
Even studios from California have this perception
to California, like have you guys actually

863
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:04.599
lived there and not like in your
development studio, Like game developers need to

864
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.800
get out more. Is my take
on all this. Except for Nintendo.

865
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:12.719
They're doing fine. They could keep
doing their thing. They're the only good

866
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:17.679
development studio left. Oh yeah their
first party stum. But in all seriousness,

867
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:24.920
yeah, I I I actually kind
of liked um. Well fuck,

868
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:31.440
I'm forgetting the name of this game. No, um, nintend Motorcycle in

869
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:37.280
Oregon and Zombie Game the Day's gone. Everyone's face like you were the guy,

870
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:43.199
You were the guy? Okay.
Yeah, it's super fun, but

871
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:45.119
like at least they were doing new
stuff with it. They were doing something

872
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:49.599
new. It was a warm base. It was really fun. Yeah,

873
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:53.360
good for you, But I don't
know, Oh, yeah, you're so

874
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:59.400
high brow if you're like meeting of
like a quality writing. Yeah, it's

875
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:03.920
the writing that bothered me, not
the boring game. Um, but writing

876
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:09.280
is what I judge games though.
Yes, yeah you know, uh less

877
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:14.840
must do more talking as it's no
hemingway, he said, And if you

878
01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:16.559
play a game and it is true
and it is good, then you will

879
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:20.000
see it for what it is and
it will be good. JFK. No,

880
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:24.760
it's hemingway. J boat guy,
did you have a boat? My

881
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:29.800
fellow Americans, Dead Island two is
out today. You must go go to

882
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:34.360
your local Toys a Ross and get
it black Ops, for they're like zombie

883
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:40.840
motors, like your JFK and fucking
FDR right you were to know it wasn't

884
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.719
black ops. You were brainwashed to
assassin ate JFK in No. Yeah,

885
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:46.760
I think one of you could play
as JFK and like Castro. I remember,

886
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:58.599
as if I haven't thought about that
before, Trey arc Um. Yeah,

887
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:00.920
Dead Island two to not leave a
great impression. I mean I played

888
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.679
an hour. I'll play it for
the stream and then I will never think

889
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:06.679
about that game again. And I'm
a sucker for mindless isombie games. I

890
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:12.159
love zombie games. I'm always interested, but I think I think it does

891
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:15.559
at this stage. You gotta mix
it up a little bit. You have

892
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:20.119
to be offering something we haven't seen
before. I just I can't get into

893
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:23.719
it. I don't like Dying Light. I don't know like Dying Light too.

894
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:25.840
I don't like the first time.
I don't like any of those games.

895
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:29.440
I just don't like melee when you're
I don't think it's fun to do

896
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:32.960
melee when you're surrounded by like just
hitting urt while you can't move in a

897
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:36.320
bunch of shits all around you.
Like, that's not fun first person gameplay

898
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:40.360
to me, Like, that's I
don't know, I can't get a dead

899
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.679
rising. I like because it was
wacky and third person and like there's a

900
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.239
lot of variety of the ways it
was and yeah, and again it had

901
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:49.719
a lot of innovation, like figuring
out the first time, figuring out that

902
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:55.119
you could put stuff in the blenders
and make original concoctions and being like,

903
01:05:55.239 --> 01:06:00.039
okay, I'm cooking now, that's
really neat, getting really rare weapons and

904
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.679
saving them for like, you know, specific situation, combining things to make

905
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:08.360
them into new weapons that you wouldn't
you swear wasn't possible. And then,

906
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:11.519
like you said, doing silly things
the first time you like find out that

907
01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:15.480
you can put masks on those zombies. It's funny pictures and stuff you could

908
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:17.440
take. Like there was just so
much like personality there. And I feel

909
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.960
like every time I play a Dead
Island or Dying Light, I'm just mashing

910
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:23.519
urt while things are like bad,
bad, and it's just like that's not

911
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.840
fun to me. Ever, It's
I've never had a second of fun with

912
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:30.239
any of those games, and like, I don't are people liking this one?

913
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:31.280
Is it supposed to be a good
one? Mike? You don't seem

914
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:35.519
hot on it. I from what
I've read and edited, I don't think

915
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:45.480
so. Okay, is it out
yes Friday or no? Advanced Words is

916
01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:47.360
Friday. Dead Island two might be
out now, I could play a dance

917
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.480
Wards right now. Okay, seventy
five on Metacritic. That sounds about right.

918
01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:54.559
I thought it came out mid April
past mid a. No, no,

919
01:06:54.679 --> 01:07:00.519
no, it's not. I'm pretty
sure Otober of twenty one, two

920
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.519
days. Yes, Friday, Friday, so it'll be out by the time

921
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.840
this is out. Advanced Wars is
also Friday. Hell yeah, I'll play

922
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:09.239
that. I play that. We
talked about that last time I played More

923
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:12.679
Jake was listening to recording and recommended
I played the second game instead, just

924
01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:15.760
kind of skip over the first one, Rising black Moon Rising. Yes,

925
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.840
yeah too, as much. I
didn't dislike the first one. It's just

926
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:24.480
I see where it started. Oh
they're both on that, aren't they.

927
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:30.199
Yeah, And it's kind of misleading
because they gray out the second game,

928
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:32.760
I believe, until you do a
bit of a tutorial and then you can

929
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.519
choose the second game. But they'll
say, hey, we highly recommend you

930
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:38.880
play the first game first. But
Jake was like, now, I just

931
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.440
play the second one, and it's
better. There's way more options, there's

932
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:45.320
more considerations with different units, better
more involved maps. The first one was

933
01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:49.360
more just kind of a cool glimpse
into like this game Boy Advanced Tactics light

934
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:54.559
era that they were messing around with
when fire Emblem was already in its stride.

935
01:07:55.639 --> 01:08:00.119
Uh. But they're really snappy,
the animals, like I like.

936
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.239
I love that you can just fast
forward ship when the combat actually happens.

937
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:06.320
It's simple enough. It's a nice
break from the fucking shit I play most

938
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:10.960
of the time. That's like,
I spend forty five minutes preparing for a

939
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.159
battle and then actually doing it as
like ten, I feel like, yeah,

940
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.000
Advanced Wars and like Final Fantasy Tactics
Advanced those were like, that's my

941
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:23.279
speed of tactics stuff like like Mike, I know you go super deep into

942
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:25.279
that stuff, and I think it's
cool and games let you do that.

943
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.479
And I like x Com and I've
played enough of those too appreciate those,

944
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:30.239
but like, I think Advanced Wars
is kind of a sweet spot for me.

945
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:34.319
Yeah, I would take Jake's advice
and as soon as you can play

946
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:36.720
the second game, just go to
that. The first like feels just like

947
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:43.159
a big tutorial. Okay, but
they look great. Nice. I didn't

948
01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:47.600
play the originals, but yeah they're
snappy either. Quick good nice? Um,

949
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:51.359
are you been playing anything else?
Dan? Just real quick? The

950
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:57.199
Vampire Survivors DL see as ow.
There's another one who's Tari. Yeah.

951
01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:01.079
The three Majors in the like the
hog orts ish thing in the woods basically,

952
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:05.439
uh, there's some new characters and
a couple of new maps. I

953
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:09.439
don't really know what the characters are, but they got different weapons and they're

954
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:13.439
supposed to be these three majors that
are from the school nearby in the woods,

955
01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:15.760
like a Wizards school or something.
I mean, there's no fucking text

956
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:17.680
or talking in that game, so
I don't know what the fuck they are,

957
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:24.439
but description entirely, Oh what are
the new weapons? Um fuck,

958
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:26.760
there's like this, Uh, I
don't know how many are new and how

959
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.399
many games since like the last DALC, but like there's like this prism thing.

960
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.840
There's this like arrow thing that goes
through like in a seven Enemies,

961
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:38.520
but it has like a really slow
reload. Um. You know my thing

962
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:41.560
with every new DEALC with that is
I just go to the challenge thing because

963
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:44.199
I've I've beaten all the challenges in
that game too. Every time there's a

964
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:45.479
DLC, it's like, oh,
here's eight new things I haven't done,

965
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:47.960
and I'll do those didn't unlock new
ones, so I just you know,

966
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:51.359
checkmark checkbox, go through twe of
those, and once it's done, I

967
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:55.239
would wait for the next thing.
So it's just more of that game.

968
01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:58.359
There's like weird puzzles in the couple
new maps or whatever, like oh,

969
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:00.680
there's this crystal in the middle of
the map. I gotta figure out how

970
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:03.319
to break that thing, and you
just wind up fucking googling, and you

971
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:06.960
know it's not It's not like a
fun puzzle thing. It's just any excuse

972
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.640
to keep playing that game. I'm
gonna keep doing for like a dollar eighty.

973
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:16.760
So what was that Nicholas Cage vampire
movie like that came out recently Renfield?

974
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:20.479
Did you see Renfield? They have
a game that's gonna just be a

975
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:26.439
Vampire Survivors clone. No, I'm
almost positive I'm not making this up.

976
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:31.000
I mean, I guess that's Vampire
Survivors. I see is the movie is

977
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:38.760
what Nicholas uh Cage is his name, Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Holt from Mad

978
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:45.199
Max and the what's the what's the
fucked up Chef movie from Last de Menu?

979
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.279
Oh? Yeah, yeah, here
this on polygon dot com. Nick

980
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:53.800
Cage's vampire movie. Rinfield now has
a Vampire Survivors like game tie in.

981
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:58.279
Let me see Mike mcborder right that
I think Owen s Good Oh Good wrote

982
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:02.159
that. Okay, yes, let's
I think that movie looks very lame.

983
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.600
Uh. I just I don't like
any of the ones where it's just like,

984
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:09.479
hey, I feel like I'm being
really complaining this episode, but uh

985
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:14.159
yeah, we're sucking open God,
open your eyes, enjoy things say one

986
01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:17.399
thing you like, Dan, I
don't think say one thing you like before

987
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.479
you go forthing I like, Yeah, um anal pocket. I played a

988
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:26.840
bunch of that on the Pathway.
Three. Three things you like? Three

989
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:33.159
things I like? One has to
be a person. Bunk fucking didn't even

990
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:40.199
think, yeah what. I mostly
like things, but yeah, like Redfield

991
01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:42.279
is like, I just don't like
the things that are like, oh,

992
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:45.279
meme, Nicholas Cage, Like I
feel like there are a lot of Nicolas

993
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:46.920
Cage movies Uncei'll take every fucking role
where its like, oh, we're he's

994
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:49.600
gonna be wacky Cage. We're gonna
write a bunch of wacky Cage in where

995
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:53.479
screaming. It's like, no,
you don't need to do that. He's

996
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:55.520
gonna have his own flavor. Let's
let him do his fucking thing. You

997
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:57.760
don't have to try to force it
out of him. And and it just

998
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.640
seems like it's trying to be a
Nick Cage and I don't like that as

999
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:04.000
much. But anyway, yes,
it looks like there is a Vampire Survivors

1000
01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:10.399
Like here, Jake keeps telling me
to watch Pig Dude. Yes, fucking

1001
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:13.960
who I trust him? Who tell
you Jake. Jake. Jake's right,

1002
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:16.800
Jake, Jake is. I know
a lot of people think they are.

1003
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:23.600
Jake knows Nicholas Cage is portfolio better
than anybody I know. So Nicolas Cage,

1004
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:26.399
Oh yeah, he was such a
fan. Jake uses the what's in

1005
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:29.920
the bag a shark or something line
like three times a night when we're hanging

1006
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.319
around or something. Yeah from Wickerman. Oh, the woman at the dock

1007
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:34.880
or the guy at the doc comes
out. He's like, what's in the

1008
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:38.760
bag shark or something? Jake.
Jake also does a really good depression.

1009
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.640
Why do you not know this?
What do you think pig is? Um?

1010
01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:47.279
I've heard it describe briefly as like
or at least my understanding is that

1011
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:53.039
his pig gets kidnapped and he goes
in a killing spree. Okay, that's

1012
01:12:53.079 --> 01:12:55.960
what the trailer is, and yes
that you're you're not wrong. You should

1013
01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:00.640
watch it and then shut up for
the rest shut up, trust Stake.

1014
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:05.399
So it's like, I'm going,
you don't to couch. You can just

1015
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:09.920
tell me to shut the fun I'm
saying, it's not what you think it

1016
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:14.640
is. Shut the fuck up.
Okay, it is so genuinely good it's

1017
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:18.399
not like Nicholas Cage is so waggy. It's just fucking good. Treach the

1018
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.399
choir. Like again, I trust
Jake's taste there and like he I've just

1019
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:30.159
told him i'd watched it. But
I love Color from the Screen and Shake

1020
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:34.079
You. Mandy's awesome. I love
I love Mandy. I think Color out

1021
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:38.800
of Space was fine. Pig is
better than both of those pigs are really

1022
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.439
good. It's the one where he's
in the theme park overnight. That's meme

1023
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:47.319
shit. That's yeah. And there
is a five Nights at Freddie movie coming

1024
01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:50.520
out. Hold on, what is
the Nicholas Cage movie where he's in the

1025
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:57.800
theme park overnight. It's like wally
World's World something. It's some dumb weekend

1026
01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.920
at wally Worlds or something. It's
Memel Cage. Yeah, that that looks

1027
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:04.079
really stupid. My favorite Nicholas Cage
movie is Conner. So that's the bar

1028
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:10.079
you gotta surpass Willie's Wonderland. Yeah, yeah, I'm kidding. By the

1029
01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:13.680
way, it's okay. What is
my favorite Nicholas Cage movie Moonstruck. I

1030
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:15.399
haven't seen that. It's good.
My parents love it. It's one of

1031
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.960
their favorite movies. To get like
to watch together. I haven't watched it,

1032
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.439
so I can't speak to how it
holds up. But he has this

1033
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:26.640
whole speech Okay, I don't know
if this is like cool nowadays, but

1034
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:31.840
he has a whole speech about how
so his brother is gonna marry Share from

1035
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:35.279
what I remember, but they live
in Brooklyn and these brownstones, and he

1036
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:40.159
has a Nicholas Cage character as a
wooden hand. So he goes off on

1037
01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:43.680
this monologue about how his brother has
everything because he's got a good job,

1038
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:47.239
he's got Share. And then he's
like just going off for a while about

1039
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.279
how his brother has his hand and
he doesn't. But it's Nicolas Cage just

1040
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:54.039
like pointing at his hand and yelling
at chair that he has doesn't have a

1041
01:14:54.119 --> 01:15:00.880
hand in the basement of this brownstone. Now that I say it out loud,

1042
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:02.600
I don't know how the movie holds
up, but I know the movies

1043
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.119
about it, didn't She wanted to
ask her for that, right? It's

1044
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:12.000
a rom com. Yeah, oh, but like to Brooklyn Italian Americans in

1045
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:19.399
Love Crazy Kids, the mine wanders
quit saying, Oh, to be an

1046
01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:28.000
aunt on the wall in that set, an aunt not a fly that's the

1047
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:30.319
new that's the new fly. Oh, to be an aunt, to carry

1048
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.840
things much heavier than me, to
move breadcrumbs from one spot to another,

1049
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:38.760
to be with other aunts in a
line, to all the sexy stories of

1050
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:42.399
people who think they're alone. No, just to be an aunt, to

1051
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:45.920
go into dirt and to cover myself
and dirt, and to go into holes

1052
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.319
I love. Just to puke into
my friend's mouths when they need a meal,

1053
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:56.520
showing up way too late. No, my favorite Nickels Cage movie,

1054
01:15:56.720 --> 01:16:06.600
probably The Rock is really good.
Yeah, incorrect information, So Mike,

1055
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:10.520
correct me with your aunt knowledge if
I'm wrong. But I was under the

1056
01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:15.039
impression that worker ants literally don't do
anything besides work, so they don't get

1057
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:21.600
food for themselves. So certain ants
have food and essentially like they share mouthfoods

1058
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:27.039
so that everybody's alive, but like
they don't all like make sure they're eating.

1059
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.640
I have no clue. What about
that thing I just did makes you

1060
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:32.880
think I'm an ant expert. I
just assume that you would back me up

1061
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:38.800
on them. He was not logued
about ants for four minutes. Pencers,

1062
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:44.119
he has pencers. So there's worker
ants, and are you saying is they're

1063
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:45.199
like an aunt who's jobs, Like
they have a station, like they're the

1064
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:49.239
water cooler and you walk up in
the middle. Yeah, I think so.

1065
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:53.720
You know what's really funny is I
actually think that this information is based

1066
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:57.760
off of a video game I played
in the early nineties sam Ant? Was

1067
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:03.600
it the ants EA game based on
Woody Allen's Aunts ants with a Z Either.

1068
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:08.720
I think that there was an old
game in the early nineties that I

1069
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.119
played, and I remember that you
when you want to feed another aunt,

1070
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:15.079
you vomited into their mouth. What
game would that be? Or you just

1071
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:19.279
basically went that and like food went
into their mouths. What possible game would

1072
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:23.119
that be? I don't know.
I haven't really thought about it until just

1073
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:30.039
now. This game it's like Sonic
Bonus level video games again when I was

1074
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:34.359
a kid. Maybe like sim Aunt
when I was a kid. Makes sense?

1075
01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:40.479
Yeah, I played this game attack
for Doss. Oh it's sim Ant.

1076
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.319
You vomit into each other's mouths.
Okay, wait, Mary, is

1077
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:47.680
it sam Ant? Damn it?
No? I was trying to mess it

1078
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:54.079
Dan. I was going to Protici
for guessing was cool? I like,

1079
01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:02.960
oh, no, can you mute
him? Uh? The power Jake can

1080
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:12.119
that look always gets you in real
life, makes you let you really you

1081
01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:14.560
laugh when I do it, I
don't see it before. If I say

1082
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:16.359
a joke and you don't laugh,
I just go okay, yeah, and

1083
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:20.920
that contexts that's pretty good. Yeah, um Mary. Even playing anything else

1084
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:27.279
besides Dredge, I've been playing Factoria, or some people might call it factor

1085
01:18:27.359 --> 01:18:32.920
Yo. That's a viny game.
Um fucking addicted. It looks that I

1086
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:38.600
thought you were gonna go on what
that you just got? You took a

1087
01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:41.359
long time to get to the tid
at the end of it. I did.

1088
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:49.279
When people say anything you have that
has like Dick or listens Gin in

1089
01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:54.239
it, You're like laughing before I
can finish the sentence. No, lessens

1090
01:18:54.279 --> 01:19:06.960
just huge. He's superfeeddate anyway.
FACTORYA is not a new game, but

1091
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.960
it's a game that my friend is
really into and convinced me to play.

1092
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.199
You can play with other people on
a server, so we decided to play

1093
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:21.600
three people on one server. And
it's like Minecraft on steroids because you're not

1094
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:31.720
just surviving, you are building unbelievable
machines. At one point, I could

1095
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:36.680
not believe all the stuff that we
had constructed and all the machines and factories

1096
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:43.119
that we had built to essentially make
science, which is how you can get

1097
01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:46.800
to the next level in that game. It was an ungodly amount hundreds and

1098
01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:53.239
hundreds of machines and conveyor belts to
acquire materials that we could get something,

1099
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.399
and a lot of this. To
be honest with you, it's for a

1100
01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:02.920
certain type of person who really likes
optimizing. They really probably like efficiency and

1101
01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:11.800
learning how to consolidate. It's not
really a game I should like, because

1102
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:15.880
I don't like when that is the
only function that I do. But let

1103
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:21.079
me tell you this. There are
bugs that attack you, and somebody has

1104
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:28.720
to go and bash those rats.
And it was me, And essentially I

1105
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:35.119
became the bug basher of the group. And every time I would create these

1106
01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:40.600
alerts, these walls that would protect
us from bugs, and then it would

1107
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:43.840
alert me if a bug was attacking
us, and I would go out there

1108
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.560
with like a big bunch of weapons
and massacre those bugs. And then I

1109
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:49.920
would find out where the bugs were
coming from, and I would go to

1110
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:55.960
their homes and I would kill the
entire nest. And I got really addicted

1111
01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:00.680
to kind of being the security of
our fortress sheriff. I was the sheriff.

1112
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.159
So is this do you have direct
control over the character here? Because

1113
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:08.359
like I'd always seen screenshots Factorio and
it looked like it was just like a

1114
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.119
wunch of conveyor belts and stuff.
I didn't realize you could ever like control.

1115
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:14.640
There's a person in there, and
all those screenshots probably has a person.

1116
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:17.279
You probably just didn't notice because it's
all fucking conveyor belts, so it's

1117
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:21.159
top down and there are little people
running around the whole time. Now,

1118
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:25.800
when you're probably seeing those screenshots and
a lot of times you're seeing gameplay,

1119
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:30.079
you're probably seeing gameplay of these giant
machines being constructed. And when you construct

1120
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:32.520
these machines, it's not like your
little person is like building them. It

1121
01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:38.319
just appears. As long as you
have the materials, the game, you

1122
01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:43.840
know, magically makes machines and conveyor
belts appear to serve your needs. But

1123
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:48.479
the combat is all live action.
Eventually, as you're building up all these

1124
01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:54.159
machines and these parts you can construct
cars, your little person goes into a

1125
01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:59.199
car. I put a gun on
my car, and I was like driving

1126
01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:03.600
around shooting like ants and stuff and
was like die and everybody else was like

1127
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:08.960
working on conveyor belts. It was
totally different experience for the people in this

1128
01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:12.000
crew. So let's say you are
somebody that like you, you have no

1129
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:14.760
interest let's say in the optimization in
the building and all that, and you

1130
01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:16.680
just want to like go out there
and do what you were doing. So

1131
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.119
that's basically what you're doing the whole
time, Like there's enough for you to

1132
01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:24.159
do just in that role. I
didn't build shit. They tried to teach

1133
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:29.439
that the forest, you're just killing
squirrels while we did bash those rats were

1134
01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:31.840
building. I was running around.
I killed everything. But I was head

1135
01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:35.000
of security, so I had a
very important job because if the bugs get

1136
01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:40.000
into the into the world, they
eat the machines and they ruin all of

1137
01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:44.119
your processes. This is a very
fine and important setup, which is your

1138
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:51.119
harvesting materials from the world, like
you're harvesting copper and whatever, iron and

1139
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:59.000
would and so once you have all
these automated machines and systems, it all

1140
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:03.239
harvests and runs and melts all your
metals and refines it into materials, and

1141
01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:08.199
then you can make machines that turn
the materials into goods, and so I

1142
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:12.159
would basically say I don't have enough
bullets to kill these bugs, and they'd

1143
01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:15.279
be like, I can make a
machine that will harvest all of the iron.

1144
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:16.920
I will turn it into bullets,
and then I will turn those bullets

1145
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:20.800
into mega bullets, and I'll make
all these machines and like kind of conveyor

1146
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:23.840
belt everything. And I was like, cool, put them in this box,

1147
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:27.159
and then like every twenty minutes,
I would go to this box.

1148
01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:29.800
I would get a bunch of bullets, and then I would kill those fucking

1149
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:32.079
bugs. My job was head of
security to make sure that the bugs didn't

1150
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:36.600
come into the room and disrupt the
workflow. If the bugs attack our ability

1151
01:23:36.680 --> 01:23:42.640
to harvest iron, then the whole
thing falls apart. I was very important

1152
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:46.000
that I didn't realize I had all
that going on like that. That's like

1153
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:49.159
on the flip side, if you
want to if you just wanted to do

1154
01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:51.840
the optimization in the building, and
all that stuff is there, like you

1155
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:55.279
know, like Minecraft allow the mode
where there's no creepers, and it's just

1156
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:57.840
like, oh, it's like creative
mode or whatever. I believe that you

1157
01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:01.000
can turn down. However of the
bugs are we actually had it on a

1158
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:05.239
mode where the bugs were very intense, and I think that that's interesting that

1159
01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:10.159
the game allows you to do that, because originally, the first time you

1160
01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:12.640
were to play this game, you
should probably play it on a lighter modes

1161
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.560
that you're not worried about that and
you can learn the process of building and

1162
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:19.560
learning an efficiency. But because I
was playing with two Seasons players who have

1163
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:25.239
played this game a lot, it's
a very fascinating gameplay loop as well,

1164
01:24:25.279 --> 01:24:30.199
which is you're not just building machines. You're building machines to eventually take over

1165
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:34.119
like all the resources, and eventually
your science gets so good that you build

1166
01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:39.720
a rocket and you fuck off,
Like what a cool ending. But here's

1167
01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:42.560
the interesting catch that I feel like
the game doesn't mark it well enough.

1168
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:48.159
As you're building all these dope machines, all these machines make they are making

1169
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:54.760
like smog there, you're making environmental
damage because you're bastards, and that environmental

1170
01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:58.680
damage pisses off the bugs. So
when you start the game, you never

1171
01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:01.960
get attacked. The bugs don't really
notice you. As you're building these big

1172
01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:06.279
machines and you start harness like harvesting
all this material. The bugs are getting

1173
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:10.159
pissed off and they start to attack
you. Later on in this game,

1174
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:13.720
they are coming out of the woodwork. They're coming from the north, they're

1175
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:16.039
coming from the southeast, they're coming
from the west, and all these different

1176
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:20.359
bugs, big bugs, and they
evolved too. These bugs also evolved.

1177
01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:24.720
There's some commentary there. The more
you pollute the land, the more you're

1178
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:28.560
agitating the natural order of things.
Yeah, that's right, but it's on

1179
01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:32.399
our side. Like unlike those other
games where it was like about how we're

1180
01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:36.199
ruining the planet, it's about how
you destroy a bug land. You harness

1181
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:40.359
every material you can, and then
you just like fuck off, you like

1182
01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:44.319
get on a plane. Oh,
I see you. Okay, all right,

1183
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:46.000
all right, you're kind of telling
me on that. I'm telling you

1184
01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:50.560
it's actually really good. My concern
Dan is, I know, I think

1185
01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:54.720
I know you, and I don't
think that you would enjoy playing this game

1186
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:59.880
alone, because the idea of like
building all these machines is very like draw.

1187
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:02.800
I think you might be wrong about
that because like that, I've always

1188
01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:06.800
been somewhat curious from Afar in seeing
screenshots at this game, and I've heard

1189
01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:13.640
vi Any describe it, and like
I do actually really like like organization and

1190
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:15.439
efficiency and stuff like that, and
like, oh, I can actually skip

1191
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:17.600
this step and that step if I
just go straight from here to there,

1192
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:20.439
like I like, you know,
like and it's a totally different type of

1193
01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:24.880
game, but like Livings, you
know, or even like city builders stuff

1194
01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.760
and everything, like I like being
able to find solutions, you know,

1195
01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:30.279
out of the box and stuff like
that, and like that sounds that sounds

1196
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.640
pretty fun to me. Honestly,
I think maybe you'd like playing with other

1197
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:38.960
people then, because it's fun.
Yeah. I don't know how many people

1198
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.199
you're allowed to have on a server, but we had three, and we

1199
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:46.760
all had very specific jobs. Someone
was like an innovative lead, basically a

1200
01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:51.720
scientist. Their job was to make
as much science as possible, which helped

1201
01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:59.359
advance technology because when you start,
literally you're like melting iron and wood and

1202
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:03.720
like hoping that you can just make
some nice iron bars. Towards the end

1203
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:09.439
you're making cars, you're making oh
my god, you make trains and all

1204
01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:13.600
this. The first time you build
a train and you have all these tracks,

1205
01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:16.560
it's nutso Dan, you're so proud
of yourself. So we had we

1206
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:19.800
had one of those. A good
example is shit I just realized, I

1207
01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:23.960
don't think you play this game or
like this game deak stranding, but talking

1208
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.560
about optimizing, I'm not gonna go
and hold that tra anything, but like

1209
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:28.760
just once you get zip lines and
stuff, and all of a sudden,

1210
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:30.000
it's like, oh my god.
I used to have to like ride a

1211
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:32.640
fucking bike all over this ship and
it took forever, but now I just

1212
01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:35.600
right like that feeling of like,
oh my god, I've skipped all these

1213
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:39.159
steps. This is so much more
streamlined. Like that is one of the

1214
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:43.119
more satisfying things I've felt in games
recently, and I don't think I play

1215
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:45.399
enough games like that for as much
as I find joy in that feeling,

1216
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:49.479
So like you actually might like Factoria
then, because I think I think there's

1217
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:55.760
definitely some similarities there with basically taking
ten minutes to be able to make one

1218
01:27:56.000 --> 01:28:00.720
thing and then fast forward and it
is a time suck, but like fast

1219
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:03.159
forward eight hours later and all of
a sudden, like every time you go

1220
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:08.199
to the box, there's just one
hundred in there because it's automating everything for

1221
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:13.199
you, so it's really easy to
make everything. What I really enjoyed was

1222
01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:16.960
in our trio we had ahead of
innovation and technology. We had someone who

1223
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:24.680
was only working on like harvesting and
efficiency. Uh oh, I can make

1224
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:27.560
a machine that will make all of
this automated, and then I will use

1225
01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.960
a conveyor belt system to hand deliver
it to you because you're north two hundred

1226
01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:34.520
miles. And then I was head
of security and a bashed fucking bugs.

1227
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.239
Okay, I want to play this, Dad. Factoria is great. I

1228
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:45.119
was surprised. I didn't think I
would like it, but because they allowed

1229
01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:46.199
me to play it the way I
wanted to play it, which was,

1230
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:55.840
you know, attack defend. I
love tower defense. I love I love

1231
01:28:55.960 --> 01:29:00.840
just being able to like U feel
like I'm I like playing a little bit.

1232
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:04.800
And it was really fun making these
giant towers and these belts and protecting

1233
01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:08.439
us from bugs. And every time
we had a wall, they would be

1234
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:11.520
like Mary, we're being attacked on
the north wall, and I was like,

1235
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:14.520
I got it, and I would
like head over with my car and

1236
01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:16.479
like hill bugs. I had a
fucking blast. I think I played.

1237
01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:23.119
I think I'm like twenty two hours
in now. It happened really quickly,

1238
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:27.399
but man, it's a really really
fun game. Okay, awesome. I

1239
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:29.439
want to go back to that.
I also I also want to I need

1240
01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:32.359
to play Taryn Nil. I still
have not, but I've heard good things

1241
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:36.279
Tary Nil is. Okay, we
talked about it last time. I do

1242
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:43.640
love, you know, making forests, but man, I did not like

1243
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.000
cleaning up after myself. Yeah,
I heard the late game was like a

1244
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:49.319
problem for a lot of people.
I don't want to clean up after myself.

1245
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:54.199
That's not why I play games.
Do you guys have any other games

1246
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:59.279
played? I just played More Resident
Evil with you. It's awesome. Yeah.

1247
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:04.079
Yeah, what about Mercenaries Mercenaries Mode? Oh yeah, that's one two

1248
01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:11.680
and uh Dredge actually played. I
haven't played enough to like really go super

1249
01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:15.079
deep on it. You know what
game's super fucking cool in twenty twenty three

1250
01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:21.000
is No Man's Sky. I've been
very curious about that. It's holy shit,

1251
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:25.920
that is just nothing like what I
thought it was. I played it

1252
01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:29.439
in twenty nineteen, to be clear, when they did next Okay, that

1253
01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.880
big update, and I've played since
launched, and I assume it's. Yeah,

1254
01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:40.760
you get dropped in and the onboarding
is much better your it's survival light

1255
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:43.840
elements. At first, they're teaching
you how to replenish your life support systems,

1256
01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:45.800
which it's it's never gonna get bad
enough. You just need to find

1257
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:53.439
like oxygen lying around. Um.
You go and you gather some supplies,

1258
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.039
you get in your spaceship, you
jet off the first planet, you go

1259
01:30:56.119 --> 01:30:59.800
to a space station, you upgrade
your egzo suit. The game becomes this

1260
01:31:00.279 --> 01:31:08.319
really kind of engaging loop of going
to explore new solar systems. Once you

1261
01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:11.199
get your warp drive, then your
warp drive runs out of fuel, so

1262
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:15.560
you've got to go down to certain
planets that you've scanned, okay, in

1263
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:18.920
order to create plutonium or whatever the
fuck it is, and plutonium casing.

1264
01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:23.359
I need to go get these elements. But also you get base building stuff

1265
01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:28.760
really early on, and you can
have several houses on several different planets,

1266
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:32.279
and you can build warp portals next
to each of them, so you don't

1267
01:31:32.279 --> 01:31:36.960
have to like travel through the stars
again. You can buy your own fleet

1268
01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:42.760
of spaceships that you can send out
on convoy missions to bring back supplies.

1269
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:48.720
You could build like hydroponics farms on
those frigates to continue getting you necessary materials.

1270
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:56.520
But holy shit, just I don't
know the planets I've been finding are

1271
01:31:57.079 --> 01:32:02.159
pretty unreal. It's crazy how the
game is obviously like it's infinite, but

1272
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:06.039
it manages to still feel pretty personal, Like you'll discover a planet that it'll

1273
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:14.439
tell you no one else has ever
seen my favorite Yeah really wow. Yeah.

1274
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.319
So I landed on a few that's
like, hey, this one's toxic,

1275
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:20.079
and then I get through the atmosphere. Suddenly color starts to fade.

1276
01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:24.840
On this planet, color doesn't exist, so it's black and white. The

1277
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:28.840
animals are all these like Bronosaurus looking
characters. You scan one for some money,

1278
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:31.680
but it also tells you like,
hey, they survive because they like

1279
01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:35.239
inhale toxic fumes and expel oxygen,
and so it's like, oh, that's

1280
01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:41.319
how I'm not dying right away.
But then I go to another planet that

1281
01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:44.159
it's like, hey, no one
survived, no one's discovered this, and

1282
01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:50.520
it's all these weird stained glass formations, and I claimed land on it to

1283
01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:54.560
build a base because I really like
the planet. It also had useful resources,

1284
01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:59.520
so I named it Cathedral after the
stained glass. And then I went

1285
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:02.159
to my this copper deposit, there's
this whole there's terraforming. You can just

1286
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:11.319
create caves. I mind this copper
deposit and accidentally blew open a hole to

1287
01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:16.880
realize that this planet had a massive, like planet wide underground cave network,

1288
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:21.680
and ended up going super deep into
one. It was all this glowing fun

1289
01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:25.720
guy and whatnot. And I got
to the bottom and I was like,

1290
01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:27.880
I kind of like it down here. I'm gonna build a house. I'm

1291
01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:30.279
gonna put my warp portal down here, and that was like my third house.

1292
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:33.159
It was a terrible location in terms
of like being near materials, and

1293
01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:40.039
also you can't land your you can't
summon your spaceship down there because you're underground.

1294
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:42.800
I could bust out a hole above
it, but I kind of just

1295
01:33:42.920 --> 01:33:45.000
like having it there. There's an
elements of role playing and being attached to

1296
01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:48.239
that planet, but then you go
back to the space station you're doing.

1297
01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:53.520
You could do like smuggling runs for
certain factions. Every once in a while

1298
01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:58.359
you'll get ambushed and being dog fights. You can buy like on your frigate,

1299
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:01.119
you can have a hangar full of
like eight different spaceships that you're flying

1300
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:04.880
around that are good for one thing
or another. One is fast, one

1301
01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:08.720
is better, has more cargo space. If you're doing it a resource run,

1302
01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:13.359
holy shit, Like I don't have
a fleet of frigates and cruisers yet,

1303
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:18.319
but I want one, and also
I haven't yet. You need you

1304
01:34:18.399 --> 01:34:23.119
need to upgrade your warp drive to
be able to travel like four dimensionally or

1305
01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:26.000
sorry, three dimensionally. Right now, I'm just traveling along one plane a

1306
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:30.079
different solar systems, but you can
end up going up in the star chart,

1307
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:32.760
and from what I've heard, things
get really weird at a certain point.

1308
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:36.840
But God, just like taking off
from a planet, going up through

1309
01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:43.119
the atmosphere, being in space,
they've streamlined so much to travel it's really

1310
01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:45.000
fun. I considered going back to
it because, like again I haven't played

1311
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:47.800
since launch. Now, I everyone
hated it to launch. I actually kind

1312
01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:50.680
of thought it was interesting, like
meditative, and I was kind of into

1313
01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:55.560
it at launch, and I got
a code for it when PSVR two came

1314
01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:57.600
out, and I was like,
oh, man, I wonder I'd like

1315
01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:00.720
to go back and see where that
is. But and I also realized,

1316
01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:02.920
like, I don't know, I
think I'm curious about that game, but

1317
01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:05.199
I don't know if I want to
go back in VR, because like I

1318
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:09.640
feel like that's the type of game
where I just want to like play late

1319
01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:12.079
at night for hours and just get
kind of lost in it, you know,

1320
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:14.079
like I think that might be the
way I want to go to it.

1321
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:16.319
I tried it in VR for the
same reason, and then I was

1322
01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:19.880
like, Oh, this seg game's
cool. I want to see all this

1323
01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:24.199
normally to not have a headache for
ten minutes. Yeah. Yeah, because

1324
01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:28.399
it really is still has that meditative
quality and it's it's you can you start

1325
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.880
off like I said, it's like
a survival light game. It's almost like

1326
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.159
Valheim without the bosses because you're going
from different biome to different biome and crafting

1327
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:40.399
oat in order to get there.
I need to go harvest this. Eventually

1328
01:35:40.439 --> 01:35:44.479
you can become this like role playing
game where you are like in these guilds

1329
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:45.640
or if you want to be doing
that, or just keep doing this single

1330
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:49.960
player meditative thing like it has not
gotten old yet. Going to a new

1331
01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.000
solar system and finding a planet that's
like, holy shit, I didn't know

1332
01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:58.920
planets could be devoid of color.
That didn't I love that idea of like

1333
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:00.960
not every time you land, Just
like, what the fuck is this?

1334
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:03.399
Um? Did they did they add
multiplayer? Like real multiplayer? Because I

1335
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:05.960
know where there was all that confusion. There's there's so I could like see

1336
01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:09.439
you running around and we could go
like build stuff. Oh you can vite.

1337
01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:11.520
Oh they're straight up co op and
you can mind each other. You

1338
01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.880
can help each other, share resource
and build stuff and fly with them.

1339
01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:18.720
It's great munds fun. Yeah,
it's really good. I also I don't

1340
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:23.560
I'm sure they've updated the algorithm or
whatever it is that creates planets when you're

1341
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:28.520
traveling, but um, the base
options. Like, right now my focus

1342
01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:30.960
is basically I like always said I
haven't played enough of this, but I

1343
01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.199
really have. Actually now they think
back in it. But right now my

1344
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:39.600
my focus has been on getting base
upgrades to just make cooler houses but also

1345
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:43.920
more useful houses so they actually have
plants inside that I can harvest, um

1346
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.520
bots that can go out and gather
stuff. Um. Yeah, I had

1347
01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:51.319
no idea how in depth the variety
of planets gott. I knew it was

1348
01:36:51.359 --> 01:36:54.760
like infinite, but I always assumed
it was like, oh, different color

1349
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:58.680
palette, different animals, like no, this one, I land on another

1350
01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:03.319
one that's just eerminent fog. And
every once in a while I would just

1351
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:09.000
come across this random jungle in the
middle of this like planet wide fog,

1352
01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:12.920
and then the jungle. I scanned
the plants in the jungle, and it

1353
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:16.199
said that the plants themselves were dispelling, like in order to survive, they

1354
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:19.439
were dispelling something to keep the fog
away. So then I tore down a

1355
01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:23.680
couple of those trees, made a
clearing and put a house in there again

1356
01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:26.640
like and then made it like cleared
out a little landing pad for my space

1357
01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:30.159
ship, put the warp portal there. So I have like four warp portals

1358
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:33.239
across the galaxy right now, so
you can immediately go back there from any

1359
01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:40.359
space station. I believe there might
be an upgrade to a spaceship or a

1360
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:44.720
frigate that you can get to work
back. But it still has that meditative

1361
01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:47.520
quality because a lot of the time
you're just fucking mining sodium and oxygen to

1362
01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:51.359
supply your eggs of suit and whatnot. It's good. I feel like there

1363
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:55.560
were like three games that I want
to like start playing tonight, and from

1364
01:37:55.640 --> 01:38:00.399
just this conversation, yeah, it's
it's good. No meds. It takes

1365
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:03.800
about an hour until you're really free
traveling because they're it's still pretty complex.

1366
01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:08.640
They're teaching you how to do a
lot of stuff, and the UI takes

1367
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:13.600
them getting used to It's it's a
Destiny esque cursor or Assassin's Creed cursor.

1368
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.760
You're moving around the screen. Yeah, and once you select an item,

1369
01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:19.760
you then have to drag it to
the slot where you want to use it.

1370
01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:24.319
But once you get the hang of
all that, it's it's meditative.

1371
01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:28.319
But it's also just like it's the
first time in a while I've just been

1372
01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:32.279
enjoying exploration for its own sake as
opposed I mean, you're still finding some

1373
01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:35.600
pretty useful stuff on all these planets, but I keep taking these quests.

1374
01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:40.720
It's like, go take a photo
on a toxic planet, or go take

1375
01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:45.680
a photo on a desert planet.
And one desert planet I went to looks

1376
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:49.000
like an everlasting gob stopper from space
because it's like just desert. But then

1377
01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:54.520
it's got these weird obelisks every like
ten feet. So I planted, like

1378
01:38:55.640 --> 01:39:00.520
half of it has been licked and
the other half is unniched. Yeah,

1379
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:06.600
I had hair stuck to it.
Yeah, so good, got Linton goop

1380
01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:10.560
on it. You just kind of
wipe it off on your chest and go

1381
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:13.479
back at it. Yeah, I
got it. No, man, Sky

1382
01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:18.159
is rad Um. I haven't tried
the smuggling stuff yet, but I might

1383
01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:21.960
at some point. That's I really
think I'm gonna start that up too.

1384
01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:27.560
That sounds I think. I think
no Man Sky and Dredge I think are

1385
01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:31.000
my immediate after this podcast. Dude, Dredge is such a winner. Um.

1386
01:39:31.359 --> 01:39:36.199
What an absolute surprise of a of
a game this year. I had

1387
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:40.600
no expectation that I would fall in
love with that game as much as I

1388
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:43.680
did. I'm excited. I feel
like I've just been in like a loop

1389
01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.640
for with the travel and everything.
I've kind of just been doing the analog

1390
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:48.159
pocket and just like my Fortnite stuff, Like, I haven't really had like

1391
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:51.439
a game game that I've been like
sin Freseni before, which and it wasn't

1392
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:56.159
that long ago, but I need
a symptom so holding pattern until Zelda.

1393
01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:59.119
Yeah, definitely, because I know
that's just going to completely take over my

1394
01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:03.079
leg. Yeah. Do you guys
want to do emails? Yeah? Okay?

1395
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:05.920
As always, you can write into
fires get cast at gmail dot com

1396
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:10.520
for questions, comments, concerns,
corrections. I won't read the last ones.

1397
01:40:10.600 --> 01:40:15.880
I throw them in the trash.
Right click delete permanent delete, Get

1398
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:18.920
out of here. With your fucking
Actually this is all through job. I'm

1399
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:26.680
just kidding. Julie fires get cast
at gmail dot com questions. We got

1400
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:30.399
a couple tonight. This first one
is from Tim Dandy. Wait, does

1401
01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:34.039
it make sense to do no?
Mary, Actually makes sense for you to

1402
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:39.039
do this one because this Canini related
the first one. Yeah from Tim.

1403
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:45.760
Okay, Hey gang, I'm very
glad you are all back doing Canini again.

1404
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:47.239
Me too, Me too. This
is not the email now, I'm

1405
01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:50.600
just reacting to it. We love
doing I love going back to Knini.

1406
01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:54.960
I get really excited. So this
makes you very happy. Okay, I'm

1407
01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:59.680
now I'm gonna start reading this again. I've been rewatching Mike and Mary stream

1408
01:40:59.720 --> 01:41:02.640
the original Resident Evil four at game
Spot over six years ago, and I'm

1409
01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:06.439
really enjoying the banter and seeing the
differences between the original and the remake.

1410
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:12.079
That's cool. Mary just lost a
piece of jerky down her shirt and then

1411
01:41:12.319 --> 01:41:17.720
ate it shortly after episode fifteen fourteen
thirty. What a good time stamp for

1412
01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:21.760
all those who want to really know, specifically when I lost a piece of

1413
01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:30.479
jerkey. Girls so embarrassed jerky ovans
all the time. Anytime I wear like

1414
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:32.520
a v neck or a low cut
shirt. I always get something in there

1415
01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:35.079
and then I find it later.
You're always eating food out of here.

1416
01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:41.600
Hey, if guys can have the
flavor savor beard, so can we.

1417
01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:45.479
Wouldn't the analog be like if we'd
dropped some popcorn under our scrotum or something.

1418
01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:49.479
No, no, scrotums and boobies
are not equal. I don't need

1419
01:41:49.479 --> 01:41:55.720
the parts. No, no,
no, no. Genitals are its own

1420
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:59.239
world. You just you just wish
you had an equivalent to titties, But

1421
01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:01.760
you don't get a range A movie
rating. It's in the same general ballpark.

1422
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:05.479
You know, I don't know.
You don't really see peen in movies

1423
01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:11.960
like you do see titties. You
see titties in PG. Thirteen. Right,

1424
01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:15.920
if it's hard, if it's like, if it's it's Titanic Titanic,

1425
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:18.239
If it's that, it's you can
do it, but ours more. Have

1426
01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:23.640
you guys seen The Deep Fake with
Arnold Schwarzenegger as her? God damn it,

1427
01:42:23.760 --> 01:42:27.640
that's such a tangent. It's like, look at my boobies. Jack,

1428
01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:30.439
maybe, like, what do you
the voice too? Oh dude,

1429
01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:33.840
it's I watch it maybe daily.
He's like, He's like, I expect

1430
01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:36.600
you get what I want. Look
at my boobies, Jack, look at

1431
01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:42.800
them anyway, I'll send it to
you guys. It's greats go on,

1432
01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:47.399
okay? If no, no,
If Jack was painting her and she dropped

1433
01:42:47.479 --> 01:42:53.079
some jerky while she was getting painted
and picked it up and ate it,

1434
01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:58.359
it would have the same rating because
boobies are not the same as like him

1435
01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:04.119
showing full scrolls. There's not a
lot of scroting movies either, trying to

1436
01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:11.399
think in a movie we're mortal enemies
on this What movie has a scrowed a

1437
01:43:11.439 --> 01:43:15.479
minute? You guys are having can
name a billion of the arguments. Oh,

1438
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:20.880
there is a scrotum in uh Waiting? Oh that's right, yeah,

1439
01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:23.920
Mike. Is that the one you
watched in my basement by yourself? I

1440
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:28.319
know you maybe watch the sequel,
which is somehow worse. How could you

1441
01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:33.600
possibly want to watch the sequel to
Wait mis visiting? I know I'm not

1442
01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.640
here often, but I need to
watch Waiting two. When you're in this

1443
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:42.680
dungeon basis wat Rana the chat.
It was not me. I sat on

1444
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:47.399
a concrete floor like legs crossed,
and then he drove the Mario Carmen to

1445
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:54.359
read this email. Yeah, in
the spirit of this jerky moment, what's

1446
01:43:54.479 --> 01:43:58.680
one thing that you cringe about from
those old days? And how have you

1447
01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:02.119
seen your fellow hosts grow over the
years. I hope y'all are stoked about

1448
01:44:02.159 --> 01:44:06.640
having built a great community and maintained
cool jobs for so long. Cheers,

1449
01:44:06.800 --> 01:44:10.960
Tim, Tim, think you that
was really cool email? That makes me

1450
01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:15.439
this like made me smile. Fucking
Jedi moment. It's not my favorite,

1451
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:23.119
but that was that such a moment. Oh, I'm going to writing too.

1452
01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:29.720
Oh man, that's okay. Boy. When I when I cringe about

1453
01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:33.119
from those old days, um,
probably a lot. I don't tend to

1454
01:44:33.199 --> 01:44:38.479
watch stuff from that era. Really. I'm specifically because the video I did

1455
01:44:38.520 --> 01:44:42.800
that i'm embarrassed of. Well,
it's not like full embarrassment. It's like

1456
01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:45.560
I feel like watching that it's like
reading really old writing. It's like it's

1457
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:48.760
just inherently embarrassing, Like, oh
my god, I'm so much better than

1458
01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:54.039
yes, I think. Yeah,
if I look at a video from like

1459
01:44:54.119 --> 01:44:56.960
twenty ten or something from Gaming four
World, just be like I had no

1460
01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.039
idea how the fuck to talk and
just be natural on camera. Just I

1461
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:02.760
feel sort of like, hello,
welcome, to replay and just not even

1462
01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:05.880
that I'm just monotone and like I
just didn't know what the fuck I was

1463
01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:09.920
doing, though not really cringing,
but just like, oh fuck, I

1464
01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:17.159
was clueless. I wonder if it
still exists before I worked at game Spot.

1465
01:45:17.439 --> 01:45:20.159
I'm actually very proud of a lot
of my Game Spot stuff, even

1466
01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:24.920
the embarrassing stuff. I think is
funny, and I look back very fondly.

1467
01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:30.000
I remember doing a lot of news
with Jake actually, who edits the

1468
01:45:30.039 --> 01:45:34.560
podcast. So anytime the person who
hosted our news traditionally, which would either

1469
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:39.840
be Chris Waters or Jess McDonald if
they were sick or they were out unexpectedly,

1470
01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:42.479
I filled in for the news,
and Jake and I would always team

1471
01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:45.079
up and do the news together.
And every time we did it, we

1472
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:48.239
did something really fucking dumb, and
we did it possibly because we were just

1473
01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:54.319
like Wiley and maybe because we were
bored. But if we did the news,

1474
01:45:54.439 --> 01:45:58.319
we did something so wacky because it
was funnier to us. And so

1475
01:45:58.439 --> 01:46:00.039
we came up with all these really
funny ideas, and you'd think if I

1476
01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:02.479
look back on them that I would
be like, oh my gosh, these

1477
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:09.039
are so bad and are like ideas
were so stupid. But I love every

1478
01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:12.640
one of those videos. I have
a reel, Oh my gosh, like

1479
01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:17.680
so wild. I would say the
equivalent of Mike, You're about the author

1480
01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:23.439
is like maybe one of my old
old videos that I used to make,

1481
01:46:23.439 --> 01:46:28.000
because I made a lot of videos
before I worked at game Spot, and

1482
01:46:28.279 --> 01:46:31.600
one of them I made a fake
show called Indie Pick where I talk about

1483
01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:36.479
indie games and pretend to be a
host so that I could send it to

1484
01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:43.840
game Spot and be like I can
host and real that you made intended to

1485
01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:46.079
work in games media so that I
could get the job, and I don't.

1486
01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:49.279
That is embarrassing. Ben was not
going to fact check you at game

1487
01:46:49.319 --> 01:46:51.880
Spot. I know, but I
didn't know that, and I, um,

1488
01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:56.920
I'm actually I like at that time, I man, I was hungry.

1489
01:46:57.199 --> 01:47:00.239
I would do anything for that job, and so I I invented reels.

1490
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:03.239
I like, I did odd jobs
I could put it on my resume.

1491
01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:06.600
I did everything that I could to
be like, I'm the perfect employee

1492
01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:11.199
for you game Spot. Like I
it was all manufactured. None of that

1493
01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:15.000
is an accident or luck. I
mean, there is always luck in getting

1494
01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.800
a job. But what I'm saying
is is like it was calculated how much.

1495
01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:21.760
I basically was like, yeah,
check out this reel I made of

1496
01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:26.319
you know when I covered games in
Australia, and it's like I just invented

1497
01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:30.079
that show. I just made things
up. It's like a Rob Handley's and

1498
01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:33.760
the Weatherman. That's right. Yeah, that's a really good example. Or

1499
01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:36.960
you just like you're kind of getting
by, but you do use those things.

1500
01:47:38.159 --> 01:47:41.359
Rob was playing this Weatherman and then
all of a sudden he's he just

1501
01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:45.159
starts like cheering and shooting fire out
of his hands. It's really good Rob

1502
01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:53.119
Handley clip. Yeah. I probably
if I were to watch more of my

1503
01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:56.520
old stuff, I would find more
stuff that I was embarrassed. But like

1504
01:47:56.600 --> 01:47:59.119
I think a lot of old stuff
I did was funny. There is an

1505
01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:01.199
old video, Mike, what is
it? Me and you were in a

1506
01:48:01.319 --> 01:48:05.159
game Informer record my Heart a game
inform searching? Is it the you draw

1507
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:10.439
tablet? But you look like you're
a literal child in it? Uh?

1508
01:48:11.159 --> 01:48:13.439
It came up recently, What the
fuck would you have been on? We

1509
01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:15.800
had you look on? We talking
about when I was like clearly miserable to

1510
01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:19.840
be on the video. Maybe do
you remember what why we would have had

1511
01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:25.239
you? I would have been very
early we you days? Yeah? Fuck?

1512
01:48:25.399 --> 01:48:28.520
What the fuck was that? You're
on the couch, we're in the

1513
01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:35.760
meeting room. Probably zombie or zombie
you? Zombie you? Why would we

1514
01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:40.199
have been at cams for that?
I don't know, ah, man,

1515
01:48:40.359 --> 01:48:43.359
I wish I could find it.
Um, I know what you're talking about.

1516
01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:45.399
Yeah, that's weird to think about, because god, I was twenty

1517
01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:50.359
years old. Yeah yeah, fuck, I yeah, I can't think of

1518
01:48:50.399 --> 01:48:55.760
but sorry, UM, I think
the other half of this is also not

1519
01:48:55.920 --> 01:49:00.600
just what we're embarrassed about, but
um, how have you seen fellow hosts

1520
01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:08.800
grow? And I've absolutely seen people
expand and grow, And I think someone

1521
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:15.840
that I think really grew a lot
was Abby. I think that she's phenomenally

1522
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:18.359
entertaining and she was always funny,
but I think she learned a great deal

1523
01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:25.560
at her time, and I always
loved watching her flourish in LA now and

1524
01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:29.359
I like seeing where she's going to
go with her career. But it's really

1525
01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:31.640
cool to see that fundamental knowledge of
like how to produce a show and how

1526
01:49:31.680 --> 01:49:36.800
to construct something four games with her
background. I think she's a fascinating person.

1527
01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:43.079
Yeah, totally agreed. Who else
has grown is that it? She's

1528
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:48.479
the only one bunch of losers other
than that hell Hanson boy, Howdy Hanson

1529
01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.560
went from like when he was the
video guy Game Informer. I found him

1530
01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:55.680
fascinating. I was immediately really good
friends with him, and he had such

1531
01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:59.840
interesting personality and I was like,
we gotta get you on the ship that

1532
01:49:59.880 --> 01:50:01.199
you you say when we're just at
the bar or a party or something like

1533
01:50:01.279 --> 01:50:04.039
that, like you're fascinating to talking
about this stuff, and man, I

1534
01:50:04.119 --> 01:50:06.159
want to be hoss, be in
the backgrounds, just edit the stuff all

1535
01:50:06.159 --> 01:50:09.600
does. He never wanted to be
on it. And occasionally I'd pull him

1536
01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:11.880
onto stuff. I pulled him unto
like a play through of Yoshi's Island and

1537
01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:15.079
stuff and kind of got him like
a little more comfortable with that stuff.

1538
01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:17.680
And now he's mister look at me. Here's mister hey, it's my show,

1539
01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:20.319
The Men Max Show is starring Ben
Hanson. Hey, Razzle Dazzle,

1540
01:50:20.399 --> 01:50:24.680
He's you know, razzle dazzle.
He's listening right now and he says all

1541
01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:29.159
those he's but no, he is
so obviously comfortable in that role. And

1542
01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:31.680
after seeing him like on those cover
story trips where you know, I didn't

1543
01:50:31.720 --> 01:50:35.199
know what the fuck to ask any
game developer about anything. I could review

1544
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:38.640
games all day long, but like
I didn't know what to ask developers.

1545
01:50:38.880 --> 01:50:42.640
Hanson would be there. Just ask
he if you gave him five hours,

1546
01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:45.319
he would fill every one of those
hours with questions for developers, and like

1547
01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:47.479
fascinating questions that you could tell he
was really interested in. And it's like,

1548
01:50:47.560 --> 01:50:51.319
why not harness that for why don't
you do this? Why don't you

1549
01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:55.680
interview people? Why don't you host
something? And now to see what he's

1550
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:59.000
doing and like killing it like they're
they're killing it at Men Max, and

1551
01:50:59.119 --> 01:51:02.399
he is fronting the thing. I
think he's easily the first person that comes

1552
01:51:02.399 --> 01:51:08.039
to mind as far as that goes. Yeah, I don't know him as

1553
01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:11.520
well as you do, but I've
liked watching Midmax as a whole thing.

1554
01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:15.279
Grow. Yeah, he comes up
with amazing ideas too, Like he really

1555
01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:16.840
does like and I like the fact
that he'll do out of the box stuff

1556
01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:20.199
where it doesn't even have anything to
do with video games. And yeah,

1557
01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:25.039
he's he's absolutely killing it, he
really is. I like deep dives,

1558
01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:27.800
or I like the doing a thing
deep dive with them. I did that

1559
01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:30.600
Mario six four one with that with
him and that was really fun. Yeah,

1560
01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:33.439
yeah, yeah, he's great.
Okay, thank you, Tim,

1561
01:51:33.640 --> 01:51:38.239
appreciate. I feelure just brokfe by. He's a psychopath. What a weirdo.

1562
01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:41.840
He's kind of crazy. I mean
both can be true, you know.

1563
01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:45.279
All right? Uh, Dan,
you want to read this one.

1564
01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:46.600
It's not as long as it looks, just like a block of text.

1565
01:51:47.159 --> 01:51:53.800
Yes, from rich in Pennsylvania.
Yeah, hey guys, this question is

1566
01:51:53.800 --> 01:51:56.039
for everyone, but it involves dance, so I guess he can read it.

1567
01:51:56.960 --> 01:52:00.000
But a little background about it.
About a year ago, I was

1568
01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:04.920
watching Dan stream Battledome hell Yeah on
Twitch shout out to tell my battledome freaks

1569
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:10.039
that the email said that he ended
up rating a small random channel because they

1570
01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:13.520
were playing Mario Sunshine. I followed
the raid, ended up sticking around for

1571
01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:15.119
the whole thing, then kept tuning
in. I got to know the people

1572
01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:17.720
on the channel. I like small
channels because you can actually talk with people

1573
01:52:17.720 --> 01:52:20.680
without getting lost in a sea of
chat. They ended up being super cool.

1574
01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:24.720
Fast forward a year and now we
talk on discord pretty much daily,

1575
01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:28.159
played games together on the regular,
and I consider them to be good friends,

1576
01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:30.560
not in like a weird one way
para social way like genuine friends.

1577
01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:34.960
Plus they convinced me to stream on
Twitch myself. I just hit affiliate tonight.

1578
01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:40.399
Congratulations. So my question is,
has there ever been a seemingly small,

1579
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:43.880
random event in your life that ended
up having a big impact on you

1580
01:52:43.960 --> 01:52:46.199
going forward, maybe a chance encounter
leading to a job opportunity or something.

1581
01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:49.920
Thanks for all you do. Love
the podcast that's Rich in Pennsylvania. Wow,

1582
01:52:50.119 --> 01:52:55.800
that's a really good story. That's
awesome. I love that. Yeah,

1583
01:52:57.479 --> 01:53:00.239
yeah, no, no, I'll
go for it. Mine is such

1584
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:04.680
a random little thing that I think
could have had huge ramifications going forward.

1585
01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:08.479
I was in college and I needed
the job. I was living in the

1586
01:53:08.520 --> 01:53:12.279
dorms and it was for like raising
money for the KU, just the school

1587
01:53:12.399 --> 01:53:16.119
for KU. And they had like
a like a cattle call type not audition,

1588
01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:18.279
but what do they call it?
An interview process? I guess we're

1589
01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:21.159
like, Hey, a bunch of
students are going to come over and we're

1590
01:53:21.199 --> 01:53:25.319
gonna have a cattle call interview thing
and at the end of the weekend or

1591
01:53:25.319 --> 01:53:28.600
whatever, we'll see who gets the
job doing cold calls or whatever. And

1592
01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:30.079
I started walking over to this thing. It was at like seven o'clock at

1593
01:53:30.159 --> 01:53:32.239
night, and it was like across
one of the main streets, and I

1594
01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:34.920
was like, it was snowing,
and I was like, I'd rather just

1595
01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:38.800
go back and hang up my friends
and play double Dash or something. And

1596
01:53:38.960 --> 01:53:42.600
I turned around at one point to
turn back to the dorms and not go

1597
01:53:42.760 --> 01:53:45.560
to this thing. And I was
like, nah, we'll see, maybe

1598
01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:46.479
those would be a cool job.
I don't know, let's let's walk over

1599
01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:49.600
there. So I decided to go. Wound up getting the job. Wound

1600
01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:53.800
up like most of like my social
circle for like the remainder of college,

1601
01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:57.119
and this was just like sophomore year
was all kind of based around this job.

1602
01:53:57.640 --> 01:54:00.079
And it was about a year into
that job a friend of mine,

1603
01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:04.079
Charlie, was looking through the local
paper and he knew I was obsessed with

1604
01:54:04.119 --> 01:54:06.239
games. I really wanted to write
reviews for games and stuff. And he's

1605
01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:09.319
like, oh, damn, look
at this, and he pointed to like

1606
01:54:09.399 --> 01:54:11.800
there was like a wanted thing in
the paper of like, oh, do

1607
01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:14.640
you know video games? Do you
want to review video games for the Lawrence

1608
01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:16.479
Turnal World, you know, send
in some samples here. And it's like

1609
01:54:16.600 --> 01:54:19.439
holy shit, and got a warad
just come out, the first one,

1610
01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:24.720
and so I wrote up the sample
long story short that led to the whole

1611
01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:28.159
thing of me writing reviews, going
to E three, you know, the

1612
01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:30.800
game and former stuff. So like
if I had actually turned around and been

1613
01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:34.760
like, I don't want to go
to that interview, I who the fuck

1614
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:38.960
knows what happens, you know,
and that seemingly just like add snowy,

1615
01:54:39.199 --> 01:54:41.520
I want to go back to the
dorm. Like if I had done that,

1616
01:54:43.680 --> 01:54:45.119
who knows, who fucking knows?
None of this ship could have happened.

1617
01:54:45.159 --> 01:54:47.840
Wouldn't know beyonda wouldn't have had my
jobs, wouldn't know you guys,

1618
01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:51.520
just that one little tiny fucking thing, you know. So yeah, I

1619
01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:57.800
think about that one a lot.
Yeah, mine would have been my career

1620
01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:01.479
wise, it was. I don't
I don't know what it would have what

1621
01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:08.760
the moment was, but I definitely
remember telling you i'd never seen Terminator two,

1622
01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:12.199
and that's when you actually started like
talking to me way more. I

1623
01:55:13.279 --> 01:55:16.279
just started yelling loudly. Since then, you've just been screaming at me every

1624
01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:20.359
day of our life. Yeah,
Mary, it would have been a game

1625
01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:25.079
spot. I remember there was one
day when I kind of overstepped because I

1626
01:55:25.239 --> 01:55:30.039
was had just moved to San Francisco
and I was maybe a week and a

1627
01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:34.000
half, two weeks into working there. On the way out, I stopped

1628
01:55:34.039 --> 01:55:36.600
by Rob Handley's desk, and He'll
be the first to say it, like

1629
01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:40.239
he's literally coming to stay here at
my place in like two weeks. We're

1630
01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:43.239
good friends now. At the time, I barely knew him though, so

1631
01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:46.359
I was like, oh, I
know, I made friends a game inform

1632
01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:48.760
fairly and I was super young,
so like a week and a half in

1633
01:55:49.359 --> 01:55:54.079
a game spot on the way out, and like I just stopped by to

1634
01:55:54.159 --> 01:55:57.119
chat to Rob and kind of like
him and Josh were sitting near each other,

1635
01:55:57.199 --> 01:55:59.399
so like cool, yeah, I
mean, like if if you guys

1636
01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:00.680
end up doing anything, just let
me know. And on the way out,

1637
01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:03.439
and then I think Rob took it
as like, who the fuck is

1638
01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:11.000
this guy? He's trying to encroach
on our fun? Yeah yeah, and

1639
01:56:11.159 --> 01:56:14.359
now flashboarded now and I'm like the
cool one of the group. Sure,

1640
01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:16.560
so it's kind of funny. Let
me bring you back down to earth.

1641
01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:19.199
Here. I found the video.
It is the test Chamber of Zombie You.

1642
01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:21.840
I'm not on it, but Mary
if you want to go to thirty

1643
01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:26.920
three seconds on it to see Mike
Mhardy, adult gaming professional looking like a

1644
01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.960
literal child. We pulled out a
daycare to be on a video. Send

1645
01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:31.600
it for you, the fire Escape. I still look kind of like a

1646
01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:35.439
No, I look like an adult
now in this fucking video. This is

1647
01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:40.520
unreal. Yeah, go too.
So anyone at home search test Chamber Game

1648
01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:45.319
Informer Zombie you and then what's the
time frame. It's like thirty two,

1649
01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:48.039
thirty two seconds or something. It
cuts to mahardy. Oh my god,

1650
01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:55.720
I went to the Oh I still
have it. Oh my god, you're

1651
01:56:55.840 --> 01:57:00.319
so cute, little child, this
tiny little boy talking about the faborite video

1652
01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:03.840
game. God, he's a fetus. Oh my god. I don't even

1653
01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:09.640
look this like my skull has changed. You look like a different person.

1654
01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:14.079
Has your falls not dropped when this
was shot? Absolutely not. I wasn't

1655
01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:19.319
old enough to drink legally. No, it didn't stop me. Um no

1656
01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:25.880
to get sappy though. Two years
ago, I came home after like my

1657
01:57:26.279 --> 01:57:30.159
sixth annoying date in a row.
Not in a row, not days in

1658
01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:31.760
a row, but like six people
I had went on dates. So I

1659
01:57:31.840 --> 01:57:33.720
was like, oh, this sucks, and I was like, I'm gonna

1660
01:57:33.760 --> 01:57:39.000
delete Bumble. It's really annoying.
I hate it. I didn't hate it.

1661
01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.680
I was like, I like being
single, it's fun, and I

1662
01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:45.439
like being solo. Uh. So
I went into Bumble and then I was

1663
01:57:45.479 --> 01:57:48.680
like, oh my god, I
never responded this message from this girl named

1664
01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:54.239
Amanda, so I said, and
she was super cool. She said,

1665
01:57:54.279 --> 01:57:56.439
hey, what's up cat dad and
a few other things. I was like,

1666
01:57:57.439 --> 01:57:58.800
She's like, are those are cats? I was like, yes,

1667
01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:00.439
those are my cats. It's not
my frenchie. I use Simone as my

1668
01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:05.399
like front photo. It's all connected. I'm the reason you're getting married.

1669
01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:09.840
And then we want on a date
a few days later, March nineteenth,

1670
01:58:10.079 --> 01:58:12.880
twenty one. And then we wanted
to date the next day, and then

1671
01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:15.680
we spent well, now we lived
together and we're getting married, but we

1672
01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:20.760
spent like four or five days together
every week. And I almost just like,

1673
01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:26.359
straight up the lead of the app. Wow, yeah that story at

1674
01:58:26.359 --> 01:58:30.600
the wedding. Wheneficiate it's on the
web because it's because of Simon. Yes,

1675
01:58:31.239 --> 01:58:35.000
Semon, that was my like bio. It's like the cats are mine,

1676
01:58:35.039 --> 01:58:40.039
that dog is not. Can Simone
be the flower girl. Oh my

1677
01:58:40.239 --> 01:58:43.960
god, Yeah, we can kill
that just farting down the aisle. Yeah,

1678
01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:49.600
um, I think for farting down
the aisle, I can, though,

1679
01:58:49.600 --> 01:58:51.960
if you want it's your wedding,
I'll do it, Mike, if

1680
01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:56.159
I'm up there, like doing the
efficient thing while you're both there and I

1681
01:58:56.279 --> 01:58:59.279
just tear asked, just loud enough
for you two to hear. Would you

1682
01:58:59.359 --> 01:59:01.720
be able to like no, sell
it like not? No. I would

1683
01:59:01.800 --> 01:59:06.239
lose my I would jump into the
harbor, laughing, lose my mind.

1684
01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:11.600
The powers give me a microphone pretty
close to you. Yeah, I'll grab

1685
01:59:11.680 --> 01:59:16.880
it. I'll just go back there
and do that. And rolling in her

1686
01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:25.199
chair so uncomfortable. There's a lot
of times where I feel like I did

1687
01:59:25.319 --> 01:59:31.039
something seemingly innocuous at the time that
ended up having really awesome results. I

1688
01:59:31.159 --> 01:59:41.640
think very similarly too, Rich Twitch
has a lot of those moments where you

1689
01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:45.159
think you're doing something small and then
it ends up being really meaningful and kind

1690
01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:48.760
of alters your life. And I
am obviously biased, but I have to

1691
01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:53.560
say that this story is very meaningful
to me because I think it's a part

1692
01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:59.600
of the reason why I I really
believe in twitch as a service, because

1693
01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:02.840
I think what ends up happening is
is you go there for entertainment and then

1694
02:00:04.279 --> 02:00:09.640
you maybe sometimes find more and you
find deep, meaningful connections in people or

1695
02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:13.840
the experiences that you have, and
I do believe that they can be life

1696
02:00:13.880 --> 02:00:17.800
altering. When we worked at game
Spot, I remember Eric Tay, who

1697
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.840
still works at game Spot. He
was telling me about the site called Twitch

1698
02:00:20.880 --> 02:00:24.479
and how crazy and awesome it was, and he was like, it's live,

1699
02:00:24.640 --> 02:00:26.880
like everything that's happening, it's like
all live, and it's just a

1700
02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:30.479
crazy place. You have to see
it. And so Eric Tay like convinced

1701
02:00:30.479 --> 02:00:32.640
me, like, check out Twitch
for the first time and understand a little

1702
02:00:32.640 --> 02:00:38.319
bit more about it. And I
knew some friends in the industry that were

1703
02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:45.279
going live once a week each so
that it wasn't overcommitted, and to me,

1704
02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:48.399
that was enough that it didn't scare
me. I think, for whatever

1705
02:00:48.439 --> 02:00:51.119
reason, sometimes starting your own channel
is really scary. What if no one

1706
02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:56.079
watches me and I'm live to no
one that's you know, that scared me.

1707
02:00:56.760 --> 02:01:00.359
But going live on a channel that
had maybe like six other women on

1708
02:01:00.439 --> 02:01:03.600
it, it was like, oh
cool, somebody will be on there because

1709
02:01:03.600 --> 02:01:08.560
there's all these other people that are
doing it and they're cool. So I

1710
02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:12.840
went live for the very first time
on somebody else's channel on a shared group

1711
02:01:12.960 --> 02:01:16.600
channel, and I did a show
called Indie Discovery. I think I forget

1712
02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:21.840
actually what it was called, but
it was like probably Indie Discovery or Indie

1713
02:01:23.159 --> 02:01:29.199
whatever, and I played an indie
game every week. And that actually resulted

1714
02:01:29.239 --> 02:01:31.760
in me falling in love with streaming
and starting my own streaming channel, and

1715
02:01:31.960 --> 02:01:38.079
that caused me to think a lot
more deeply about my relationship with streaming,

1716
02:01:38.239 --> 02:01:44.439
and I got really interested in learning
how to technical direct. A very small

1717
02:01:44.920 --> 02:01:50.119
but important caveat to that is that
Vinnie asked me to help with the Big

1718
02:01:50.199 --> 02:01:55.359
Live Live show and I said,
I don't know how to, but I'm

1719
02:01:55.439 --> 02:01:59.319
really interested in learning how to technical
direct. And Vinnie showed me how to

1720
02:01:59.439 --> 02:02:03.920
use my very first switching board,
and it was a very simplified version of

1721
02:02:03.960 --> 02:02:08.960
a switchboard, but I learned how
to switch from the Big Live Live show,

1722
02:02:09.399 --> 02:02:13.119
and then from that, another friend
of mine who worked at game Spot

1723
02:02:13.239 --> 02:02:16.760
named Shaw told me he would teach
me how to use a TriCaster, which

1724
02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:23.039
is a very complicated piece of hardware, and I learned how to use a

1725
02:02:23.119 --> 02:02:30.039
TriCaster from that information and like essentially
and eventually switching a lot of our live

1726
02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:34.800
shows at game Spot. I used
that education to get to Twitch, and

1727
02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:39.560
so when Twitch started looking for people, they were looking for hybrids. I

1728
02:02:39.680 --> 02:02:42.119
believe this fundamentally to my core,
and I'll say this to anyone. What

1729
02:02:42.279 --> 02:02:45.279
was really valuable to a lot of
companies is if you can do multiple things,

1730
02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:49.640
not just right, but beyond camera
or maybe even like you know,

1731
02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:55.199
technically direct. And I had all
of those skills. So I think what

1732
02:02:55.600 --> 02:03:00.199
helped me in my career was picking
up technical director from Vinnie and Josh and

1733
02:03:00.960 --> 02:03:05.359
picking up all streaming from my friends. And I think all these different components

1734
02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:10.479
is what led to my career.
I think it's what led to the life

1735
02:03:10.520 --> 02:03:13.039
that I live that I love so
much. So I think this is a

1736
02:03:13.079 --> 02:03:15.279
really cool story. Rich Like I'm
I'm really glad that you found someone from

1737
02:03:15.319 --> 02:03:18.760
a raid. That's literally why raids
exist on Twitch is so that you can

1738
02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:21.960
have an experience like this, and
I want to, like, I want

1739
02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:28.560
to like screen shot it and like
show it some like my company, because

1740
02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:32.039
I think it's really important to remember
that the things that we create at Twitch

1741
02:03:32.199 --> 02:03:36.199
they're not just for fun. I
think they make meaningful relationships. And I

1742
02:03:36.239 --> 02:03:40.399
can't tell you how many people I've
met that got married because a twitch,

1743
02:03:40.920 --> 02:03:44.760
or met their best friend on twitch, or change their career because a twitch.

1744
02:03:44.920 --> 02:03:47.399
And I think that's really cool.
And now I'm gonna stop talking because

1745
02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:50.600
it's obvious that I work there and
I really like it. No, I

1746
02:03:50.720 --> 02:03:53.920
do not work there, but I
will also say that, like what you're

1747
02:03:53.920 --> 02:03:57.319
saying at raids, I feel very
strongly and like that's one of my favorite

1748
02:03:57.359 --> 02:04:00.600
things when I'm ending a stream is
like, you know, how easy is

1749
02:04:00.640 --> 02:04:02.520
it to just look up like okay, I'll look up Mario Party or Mario

1750
02:04:02.560 --> 02:04:05.880
Sunschin or just a game or whatever
game I was just streaming and find I

1751
02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:10.640
always like to find someone that has
like three, four or five view ors,

1752
02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:13.119
twelve view or something like that,
where it's like, Okay, they're

1753
02:04:13.119 --> 02:04:15.199
clearly like they've got a little bit
of traction here. They got some people

1754
02:04:15.239 --> 02:04:18.760
watching, but what if they had
five six hundred more people watching? And

1755
02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:23.720
like it's also great that my community
is always very very cool and very welcoming

1756
02:04:23.760 --> 02:04:27.000
and polite and all that stuff.
So it's like you see it happen where

1757
02:04:27.039 --> 02:04:29.560
people are just like, oh my
god, oh wait, huge is that?

1758
02:04:29.920 --> 02:04:31.640
How many people just came in?
And then everyone's really nice and then

1759
02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:33.439
you see them kind of calm down. They're like, oh my god,

1760
02:04:33.479 --> 02:04:36.079
this is crazy, this is awesome, and like people will subscribe, people

1761
02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:39.880
will come back, and I found
a lot of people who are doing really

1762
02:04:40.000 --> 02:04:44.279
fucking cool things on Twitch. Two
very very small audiences, and I love

1763
02:04:44.399 --> 02:04:45.800
like it's it's a couple of clicks, it's a command in the chat,

1764
02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:47.680
and then all of a sudden,
it's like, here, here's a thing

1765
02:04:47.720 --> 02:04:49.920
that will help you get to affiliate
or help you find an audience. Like

1766
02:04:50.039 --> 02:04:54.640
that is awesome. It really is. Yeah, I think it. It

1767
02:04:55.119 --> 02:04:59.000
is. They're small things that can
be really meaningful to people, and I

1768
02:04:59.079 --> 02:05:01.560
think that's important. Right. It's
a small, seemingly innocuous thing, and

1769
02:05:01.640 --> 02:05:05.840
then all of a sudden you found
your new favorite person or you found a

1770
02:05:05.920 --> 02:05:09.800
really good friend. So um,
I think that's a great story, and

1771
02:05:09.920 --> 02:05:14.600
I really appreciate you sharing it with
me. So thank you, Thank you

1772
02:05:14.760 --> 02:05:19.039
very much. Rich, appreciate it. Those are emails, thank you everybody

1773
02:05:19.039 --> 02:05:26.800
who wrote it in Rich, Thanks
folks, Rich and sorry and Tim as

1774
02:05:26.920 --> 02:05:30.000
usual. Like I mentioned fire skip
past at gmail dot com. That's our

1775
02:05:30.039 --> 02:05:42.960
show. That's episode fifty two three. I never I want to look at

1776
02:05:43.000 --> 02:05:46.199
the fucking calendar. When can we
talk about Zelda? When's the episode?

1777
02:05:46.319 --> 02:05:50.479
How many episodes until we can talk
about Zelda? It's okay, So this

1778
02:05:50.560 --> 02:05:54.199
one goes up on the twenty fourth, The next one will go up on

1779
02:05:54.319 --> 02:05:58.960
the eighth. The game comes out
the thirteenth, twelve twelve, okay,

1780
02:05:59.399 --> 02:06:02.439
okay, so that's twenty second.
We will have had some good time with

1781
02:06:02.520 --> 02:06:04.920
it. I mean that whole fucking
weekend of the twelve. I'm definitely planning

1782
02:06:04.960 --> 02:06:09.880
it, okay, all right,
hell yeah, I'm We're a few episodes

1783
02:06:09.920 --> 02:06:15.439
away. Yeah, it's gonna happen. Looking forward to it, Dan work.

1784
02:06:15.359 --> 02:06:19.199
What can people do on Spotify in
the meantime, Let's click a couple

1785
02:06:19.199 --> 02:06:21.800
of buttons, not really buttons,
it's your phone. Just put put your

1786
02:06:23.239 --> 02:06:26.960
sweaty, gross flesh on your phone
screen. I don't know if it's sweaty

1787
02:06:27.039 --> 02:06:29.039
or grows. I don't know.
You look, you probably have very nice

1788
02:06:29.039 --> 02:06:31.880
fingers. I don't know, but
just just press your your grubby little paw

1789
02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:33.920
on well. I don't know,
I don't know if your hands grubby,

1790
02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:36.359
I don't know what grubby means.
I don't know why I'm insulting you when

1791
02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:39.479
I'm trying to ask you to do
a nice thing. Here, take your

1792
02:06:39.680 --> 02:06:44.239
well manicured, perfectly clean, just
wonderful to look at, wonderful to the

1793
02:06:44.319 --> 02:06:45.680
touch, I'm sure, and just
press it against your nice phone. There

1794
02:06:45.920 --> 02:06:49.000
on the five stars on Spotify and
that's all you got to do. It's

1795
02:06:49.000 --> 02:06:51.479
a very nice thing, thank you. But if they want to give us

1796
02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:55.840
four stars? What was the name
of our podcast? The kind of funny

1797
02:06:56.119 --> 02:07:01.960
game cast and sunny other aliases.
There's min Max. It's the besties min

1798
02:07:02.039 --> 02:07:05.720
Max. Definitely. Yeah, no
good stuff there, yeah yeah, Mary

1799
02:07:06.079 --> 02:07:10.960
fire Escape merch. What can they
buy? Um? You can buy so

1800
02:07:11.439 --> 02:07:17.880
many cool things like uh, mouse
pads and mugs and banana yellow t shirts

1801
02:07:18.039 --> 02:07:23.279
and we have do we have a
crop hoodie? Now? Holy shit?

1802
02:07:23.920 --> 02:07:29.279
Um? So check out our merch
and we have a whole plethora of teas.

1803
02:07:29.720 --> 02:07:31.359
And we should do a new run
soon. I think we should.

1804
02:07:31.359 --> 02:07:36.720
We should think I think we should
summer bikini's thongs, banana hammocks, get

1805
02:07:36.800 --> 02:07:41.840
the mama, I will Okay,
what's that one? But it's like a

1806
02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:46.520
fire escape Mama. Yeah, okay, here here's the deal. Okay,

1807
02:07:46.840 --> 02:07:54.159
I if you get a banana hammock
made or a speedo, I will sell

1808
02:07:55.359 --> 02:08:01.600
all and people and people buy.
We sell thirty of them. I'll wear

1809
02:08:01.680 --> 02:08:05.479
it to the pier one day in
my backyard. How about this? Uh?

1810
02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:09.119
We use we use fourth Wall.
Correct, we use fourth Wall.

1811
02:08:09.199 --> 02:08:13.079
We also have Merch on Bonfire.
They're both legit, but fourth Wall is

1812
02:08:13.119 --> 02:08:18.479
the one that has more items.
Fourth Wall has fanny packs, so if

1813
02:08:18.520 --> 02:08:22.600
that counts. Oh no, that's
I'm just naked but wearing a fanny pack.

1814
02:08:24.640 --> 02:08:28.720
Calendar. Fanny packs are in,
are they? Oh they're outside of

1815
02:08:28.760 --> 02:08:31.319
our business. People wear them a
lot. Really, let me see.

1816
02:08:31.479 --> 02:08:35.760
I bet you they have more stuff. Um since the last time I did

1817
02:08:35.960 --> 02:08:41.439
a fourth Wall review. So why
don't I check out the new items from

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02:08:41.560 --> 02:08:43.840
fourth Wall and see if I can
find like a new item drop because I

1819
02:08:43.840 --> 02:08:48.039
think it'd be nice to be like
it's summer, summertime. Here's a thong,

1820
02:08:48.720 --> 02:08:52.880
fire fire skate merch dot com.
And also, you want to go

1821
02:08:52.479 --> 02:08:56.239
support us on Patreon. You want
to unlock our ad free episodes and you

1822
02:08:56.479 --> 02:09:01.640
or and or the video episodes that
fire escape cast dot com. Go check

1823
02:09:01.720 --> 02:09:05.960
those out. That's our episode,
Dan, what you have going on?

1824
02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:11.319
A fire Escape song? I would, I guess for novelties for my own

1825
02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:18.560
be a funny thing now own just
objectively, Um, Mike guy, I

1826
02:09:18.600 --> 02:09:20.119
am. I got the giant bomb
dot com. We've been doing a lot

1827
02:09:20.159 --> 02:09:24.039
of really fun stuff over there lately. She should have a bunch of travelog

1828
02:09:24.119 --> 02:09:26.479
stuff from the California Trips, Superintendent
Land, WrestleMania, stuff like that going

1829
02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:31.720
on. Did some live stuff dream
Haack playing four Swords Adventures through the Magic

1830
02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:33.520
of the Internet. That has been
very fun to It's this held the game

1831
02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:37.359
that no one could play because you
have to have a bunch of game Boy

1832
02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:41.960
advances and shit. So yeah,
that Mike Mnadi's playing RoboCop for Xbox.

1833
02:09:41.039 --> 02:09:45.239
That's hilarious. So a lot of
good stuff going on Giant Bomb right now.

1834
02:09:45.479 --> 02:09:48.439
And then my twitch is dan Rykert
and doing a lot of fun stuff

1835
02:09:48.439 --> 02:09:50.560
there from late night Friday streams.
So follow me there, Mary, what

1836
02:09:50.640 --> 02:09:56.720
about you usual twitch? I'm on
there. I stream every Monday, streaming

1837
02:09:56.800 --> 02:10:01.079
lots of indie games as per the
USU and that's it. You can find

1838
02:10:01.119 --> 02:10:05.760
me in m E. R Y
kish on all the stuff I post on

1839
02:10:05.880 --> 02:10:11.439
Instagram about my weird travels to see
my sister and other places. We'll be

1840
02:10:11.520 --> 02:10:13.960
doing a lot of traveling, uh
for twitch coming up. Actually, So

1841
02:10:15.479 --> 02:10:18.199
next week I'm going to Saint Jude. I'm really excited about that. I'll

1842
02:10:18.239 --> 02:10:22.159
be touring the facility and learning about, um, you know, all the

1843
02:10:22.239 --> 02:10:26.720
stuff that they do to heal children, which I think is really cool.

1844
02:10:26.840 --> 02:10:33.039
Where um, isn't it? It's
in the uh damn it? Uh?

1845
02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:39.560
I should know this because I'm flying
there next week. It's um uh no,

1846
02:10:39.760 --> 02:10:43.319
no, no, no, it's
not New York. It's in a

1847
02:10:43.439 --> 02:10:52.039
state. Yeah, okay, but
come back to me. It's no Nona.

1848
02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:56.000
We're gonna wait on this. Um. They have good barbecue, but

1849
02:10:56.119 --> 02:11:03.039
it's not in North Carolina. Its
down Texas. It could be South Carolina,

1850
02:11:03.680 --> 02:11:09.760
Memphis, it's Memphis, Tennessee.
I'm so glad that you got that

1851
02:11:09.840 --> 02:11:18.720
out of nothing, nothing, nothingecue. We just name every state. It's

1852
02:11:18.760 --> 02:11:28.960
my least of my barbecue plays,
but it's still goods weird get it.

1853
02:11:28.039 --> 02:11:31.840
Tour Saint Jude, and I'm really
excited about it. So if you're interested

1854
02:11:31.880 --> 02:11:35.359
in learning more about what Saint Jude
does for the kids and how amazing they

1855
02:11:35.399 --> 02:11:39.359
are join me getting off of the
airpie. But I don't know wo I

1856
02:11:39.479 --> 02:11:43.039
don't know. I should know where
I am. My dad would be so

1857
02:11:43.119 --> 02:11:45.560
disappointed in me. He says that
to me all the time. Anytime I'm

1858
02:11:45.560 --> 02:11:48.680
traveling for Worke'll be like, He'll
be like what hotel are you staying in?

1859
02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:50.399
And like what city? And I'll
be like, I don't know,

1860
02:11:50.520 --> 02:11:54.159
and he'll be like, how do
you live? And I'll be like,

1861
02:11:54.199 --> 02:11:56.119
I don't know. I just look
it up like on an app, like

1862
02:11:56.199 --> 02:11:58.039
when I'm on my way, like
my phone tells me where to go.

1863
02:11:58.119 --> 02:12:03.039
I don't really think about it.
My dad like ten days before a flight

1864
02:12:03.079 --> 02:12:05.520
will be have you check the status
your flight? Yeah? My parents are

1865
02:12:05.560 --> 02:12:09.159
crazy about that. My mom will
be like, you have to check in.

1866
02:12:09.319 --> 02:12:11.560
It's twenty four hours, and I'm
like, it'll be okay. I

1867
02:12:11.640 --> 02:12:13.159
can check in, like eight hours
before my flights will be just check in

1868
02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:16.319
right now, it's twenty four hours. Were free flight? Have you seen

1869
02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:18.760
the weather weather? I'm monitoring the
storm. This cold friends coming in and

1870
02:12:18.840 --> 02:12:22.520
my messo the engines. No,
it's fine, that's fine. People are

1871
02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:28.399
crazy old people, all right,
let's spend an episode fifty three. We'll

1872
02:12:28.439 --> 02:12:35.079
be back in two weeks. Who
on it? Dan said maybe eight,

1873
02:12:39.159 --> 02:12:41.399
oh, we could do a little
sinker to Mayo. Maybe there we go.

1874
02:12:41.520 --> 02:12:45.760
That'll be that'll be fun. We
listen some tootskis. Okay, everybody,

1875
02:12:46.000 --> 02:12:50.000
thanks for joining. We'll be back
two weeks. Who appreciate it?

1876
02:12:50.079 --> 02:13:18.960
Bye Bye st