Hey, welcome book. It's episode fifty fucking something Fires the Fires Gift Class.
What is this? Hey? Hey, are you doing you beatiful little
babies? Daddy's Home and he's got a podcast. It's Mike, that's Mary,
that's Dan. Daddy's Home. You're the youngest person on this show.
Daddy's Home. He's gonna tuck you in. Stop doing weird stuff. You
prompted me. It's too much, too soon. I've taken seventeen improv classes.
I will never not kill a joke. I would love to see you
in an improv troup. I've never taken an improv class or done improv because
it's never funny. If a good Yeah, that are good. It can
be pretty good. The problem is that there's some good. A lot of
people are bad at it. Yeah, oh the large majority or terrible at
it, like ninety five plus percent definitely terrible. One a very impressive.
I've seen some good. She's good at it, and I think she is.
She's gotten in some good stuff. Funny, it's funny. I saw
that. Yeah, I was there with you. I liked it because they
like were weird as fuck right away, and I was like, Okay,
I'm into it. I'm on their wavelength and yeah, yeah, I liked
it. Yeah, but everyone while in LA. I've done an improv not
a course, but like seeing improv, and they're not always bad. There's
a couple in Portland that I think are tougher, a little rougher all the
edges. I think if you're going to go to improv, maybe you're going
to find more talent in the LA area than you would in like rural spaces
UCB in LA like the UCB Theater there is pretty good. That was a
Harold ramis Is quote Portland's where comedy goes to die. No, I made
that up, and a weird person. It's like, I don't know it's
gonna say Robert Zemachus, Zamechis zamechis Oh, speaking of what your film snob
up there, Mike Mhardy, I heard I heard from Bonk that last week
he got a little intellectual with this Kansas City boy. Yes, no I
wasn't here, Yes you were. No, Wait you had a Kansas City
and yeah you had Chris Planned. Here's a smart guy, right, different
person. What do you mean when did we get I got intellectual? Or
did I heard the chat was uncharacteristically intellectual for this Podcastmber, Yeah, you
you're just bringing us down every week other week most of the times that without
you, I was like, I'm unprepared for how highbrow this chat is getting,
and I don't I can't chime in. Okay, that was Do you
remember that? That was shortly before Chris Plant did a vampire impersonation about a
guy kicking him out of a car and a Brooklyn bridge during a hurricane.
So I think it got pretty low Fitzgerald novel or something. I'm shot the
thing everything and he knows the date and he knows who made it. And
then they were like, they were like, who is don Quixoto's best don
Quixote's best friend? We're back fires gave cast is back don Quioto. It's
those snobby Kansas City boys. You can't trust him don Quixote. Did you
just change it to don QUIXOTEO? You're just shooting syllables into it. It's
done, Keyote hands, thank you? Am I a stupid bupper supper.
I can maintain my second place trophy as not the dumbest we test. We
should all take an IQ test. I think there's a legit I think,
for shoot, I think there's a chance I could win that thing. Yeah,
but I Q tests are bullshit. That's like being good at trivia.
It doesn't mean anything, but it's a nice and if I had the highest
one, I could gloat. We could also do a spelling bee, which
we have done before and you've won. But if we did an egg cooking
competition, you would lose. Let's measure our dicks where Mary would win win.
Um, but how have you guys been busy? Dan? You especially,
you've been gone. You weren't here less. Yeah, episode I was
in califucking hell hole. Actually not California, most San Diegolifornia is a hell
hole. I was in Los Angeles, terrible city. Uh. But then
I went to San Diego, which actually was very delightful. I really enjoyed
San Diego a lot, Like everything about it seemed real cool. Wait,
you've been to San Diego before that? Uh? Look for like one day
for a Transformer story that I had to do with performers, so experience it
or know what I was doing. So this time I got to spend a
few days there doing the dream Hat convention and uh, yeah it was it
was a really good time. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, fucking Supernintendo
Land, fucking San Diego Convention. It was a It was a whirlwind for
sure. San Diego I always associate with. Uh. We stayed in Airbnb
for Comic Con. It's like justin Haywall, Jake Decker, I think Eric
Tay, Josh Shaw. We stayed in the Mission Hills outside and we had
the best burrito of my life right down the hill. But then I remember
the gas Lamp District. That is where we're staying in the gas Lamp District.
Yeah, that was really nice. You really walk around to a lot
of cool restaurants and bars and arcades and stuff there. I would never get
anything done if I lived in San Diego. It was not The weather was
nice. Everything was just really like I really liked San Diego. Yeah,
it was like cold in La. Like everything about La sucks. But then
the thing that's supposed to be good is like, oh, palm Tree was
in the weather and stuff, and it was like fucking cold. It wasn't
even that in the morning it would be cold. Like when we went to
Superintendo Land or World. We were wearing jackets and jeans and stuff like that.
And then we get there and it gets super hot in the middle of
the day, so it's it's shitty and inconsistent, and god, I just
fucking hate that city. It's just terrible. LA's grown on me over the
years. Do you believe you hate it? I saw more. The more
I see of it, the more I like it. San Francisco's worse,
for sure. Francisco has the perfect weather in my opinion. It's always about
seventy it's never too hot, and it's never cold. It never snows,
and it's never so hot that you can't stand it. It's really ideal for
me. I think La is really nice, only at certain times of the
year. It's so hot in the summer in La you'd be miserable. And
gets colder than you would expect in the winter months for sure, Yeah,
it never gets that cold. But like, it's interesting coming from four seasons
because I lived in Ohio most of my life. I when I moved to
San Francisco, I thought, man, this is amazing. It's basically spring
for ever. But the second I moved out of there and moved back to
a place with four seasons, I forgot. I love four seasons. I
like fall. I like Winner. I don't like winter being six months long,
but I do like Winner, So I prefer the four seasons now that
I have it again, if you had to have a year long, like
you know, weather situation, San Francisco's is the best. I think like
that, you know, sixty seventy degree like that, it is really nice.
But like you, I prefer the four seasons. Like I like a
good snowy day, and you know, I'm not big on a super hot
summer day. But I like to change. I like to change. San
Francisco did not have enough thunderstorms. I missed that too. They were worst
never rained there or in LA. What's interesting right now is that it won't
stop raining in LA and everyone's freaking out because they're not prepared for it.
There's been a lot of like unprecedented weather as of late. It won't stop
raining in Portland either, but that's normal. Everyone here is completely standered and
expected it. We're all just be grudgingly like it's the rainy season. We're
not going to see the sun for three months. We've all accepted it.
By know. It always killed me when I was living in Minnesota and I
would see other game journalists, Like in San Francisco, there'd just be a
rain, just not even a storm, just it would rain one day.
And I won't name names, but I would see certain types that would always
just be like, oh, really rough out there, like they need to
need to run the cvs, but I just don't know if it's safe right
now. And it's like it's fucking sprinkling mouth mouth their names, so only
US and video patrons know who you're talking about. No, I'll, uh,
you're ill. I'll i'll it's almost fire escape you here. I'm going
to call the fire escape you. I'm curious. This is This is the
guy that would always just be like he was like god, you know,
like reporting on a hurricane. If he stepped outside in the drizzle away,
Yeah, he shut the fuck up. He made a big deal, a
lot of a lot of stuff, a lot like breathing, like dramatic.
Yes, game journalists are Yeah. I think sometimes I connected to being a
really good writer because a lot of really good writers are in tune with their
feelings, which means they're whiny little bitches. Well, that tracks for this
industry. I know I'm in touch with my feelings, but I'm not a
whiny little bitch. M I think I'm touch with mine. I don't really,
Oh, I'm in touch with something on me. I stopped forcing those
ones. You can't. You can't make them all work. That's improv baby.
You know it just felt wrong not to swing to sing improv and Mary'd
be easy because I would just say that line and it always gets her.
Yeah, I'm always like the audience who also love signs by m Night Shamalan
and hasn't soured on Mel Gibson. I've soured on Mel Gibson, but like
maybe they haven't. I'm also a nostalgia junkie, so it doesn't matter how
many times I've heard the same Simpsons joke. If you reference an old Simpsons
joke, I'll be like, that's hilarious because I love it. So I'm
just easy to please. Simpsons is absolutely leave just like it's safe forever.
I don't think you can overdo it. I don't think like I'm fine with
that. I'll never get tired of it. But like I feel like most
sitcoms, if something gets too way too quoted, I feel like the Office
and that that's what she said stuff, or the Moore ad Impressions or back
in the day like Boston Powers. Yeah, baby around and it's funny again
now though I went through the whole cycle, it's pretty good. Like I'm
probably gonna save my wife at the way at some point, and it's gonna
be funny. Are you gonna say it? Um, and you're like nuptials,
Yeah, and the marrying house. He's gotta let me slipping. I'm
say wife that way? Will you lose it up on the stands, it's
not the stand that's co at the stage, I guess. Yeah, we're
not gonna be We're not. Can you please rise at the stand? Oh,
I'm already up. I'm gonna do the whole fucking ceremony as bore At
with the speedos, the whole character pouring champagne out of a person when it
because the bottle stuck in the guy's ass um. But yeah, I hate
improv. Yeah, it's really not fun Yeah. Yeah. If you if
you invite me to your improv show, which happens more often than i'd like,
you make it good. Make it good. Yeah, don't don't suck
up, and if you fuck up, make it funny. That's the whole
thing for me. Would Chris Plant be good at improv um. Well,
he's from the Missouri side of Kansas City, so I hear they're a bit
over there. No, No, but Chris Plant says they're a bit cooler
than you. Missouri. No one says that. Mary. You know what
Grandpa's epson says about missouris nobody goes it'll be cold and dead in the ground
before he recognizes Missouri as a stay state. He has a flag that only
has forty nine stars. I picked the right state and not attention to Chris.
It's very funny to me because when I ever since I've known Chris,
he was always living in not ever since, but when I first met him,
he was living in New York. I think he was in New York
for like a dozen years or something, and then he moved elsewhere. But
he still see like strikes me as a New Yorker. Seems pretty New York.
Yeah, but every three once in a while, the Midwest slips out.
You can't stop it. Yeah, trying to think of the last thing
it was. It's very rare. You have strong opinions on barbecue. No,
it's like, I think we really do that. It'll be in casual
conversation. It's nothing like specific or like a factoid that I'm like, oh,
that the fact that we can catch a greased pig in less than sixty
seconds. There you go. Well, Mary, you're kind of like me,
but also kind of Midwestern. We're both. I don't think Ohio's Midwest.
It is. I'm going to revoke that. I don't think that.
I'm not provoke that I'm revoke you're not Midwestern. I'm sorry, miss better.
Midwest is like I was surprised Minnesota and they said that Minnesota was the
Midwest. Maybe in Minnesota was North Midwest. I thought it was like Kansas,
Missouri, Iowa, Illinois. You know, like Texas isn't kind of
its own thing. You know, it's the middle of the country that you
can get in Colorado. You know, you get up to you got like
the Great Plains, and then you've got like longitudinally speaking, Yeah, it's
the Midwest. But Minneapolis or sorry, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan. That's
more like three states, which I love the Great Lakes area up there,
Great Lakes, Yeah, rust Belt, but rust belt's more like former that's
like a more of a geopolitical thing. Syracuse's rust belt as well, formerly
industrial cities that are now rusting. I'm sorry to tell Mary though, that
she's not Midwestern. I you can't tell me that. You don't get I
don't make the rules. It's just can't revoke licenses. I went, I'm
just breaking the news. I'm just breaking the news. Why are not You
don't get to make these up. I'm from Kansas, which is the most
Midwest. Well, apparently it's not as good as Missouri. And now I'm
on Chris plant side. No one's gonna agree with you on that. Sorry,
I don't most Missouri and Missouri, and it isn't as good as Missouri.
I love it is also not that great. I love it very far
southwest Missouri. They're just garbage states that are going down the hill at the
same speed. And well, Ohio is the third. I'd say, no
offense tall our Ohio overs of Ohio. The Civil War, those fucking Missouri
assholes kept coming over because Kansas was the free state and they kept burning down
Lawrence over and over again. Which state sounds like the cooler state there?
Well, yes, Kansas. Well I don't. I don't think Kansas sounds
cool at all there, because why would you keep rebuilding the city and letting
it Lawrence is the one cool city in Kansas. I I've heard good things
from friends who have Bento, like basketball and football games. I just don't
want to live most places besides New York. We've talked. I love Montreal,
I love I love Minneapolis. I had a really good experience in San
Francisco personally compared to a lot of people, but I would not move back
there. I love to San Francisco. I just couldn't afford it. I
loved everything about it. I just couldn't afford it. I had to say
no to so many things weddings, you know, birthdays, okay, like
traveling to other things. I was like, I've hung out with you a
lot in San Francisco. You did not say no to many things I was
proposed to. All the time, I had to say no no. I
mean like I couldn't go to things because I couldn't afford to. Yeah.
So I don't want to live that way anymore. Where I have to plan
whether or not I'm going to be able to see my mom because I can
only fly once a year, because I can only save that much money.
Very rarely, So it's just sucked. All my money went in the rent
and you could never buy there. No. No, I mean even people
that are you know, my age and have worked there forever and like make
good money and stuff, they can't. You can't buy a house in the
fucking Bay Area. Not in the Bay never. Never. And I think
LA is there too. Um in the last like ten fifteen years, prices
of skyrocket in in LA. And I feel bad for a lot of my
buds that live there because I don't think you can afford to buy there either
really anymore. Um, all houses are pretty nuts. O. I wonder
if we're headed for a collapse. Is this what we talk about now?
Or getting older? Yeah? My mortgage, it's crazy, It is crazy.
Yeah, Um taxes, Like so, I never really gave a shit
about taxes. And the other day I got my new uh mortgage payment which
includes taxes, and my mortgage was hire your mortgage is never goes up,
but the payment was up because taxes were higher, And I was like,
what the shit is this? My mortgage can't go up and it's because of
taxes. It's because we're building like a new fucking school. And I immediately
became that like old person that was like I don't want a new school.
Yeah, you're going to use that box, Like, hey, are you
going to use this? And if you don't, like I'm not going to
drive on that road. Fucking school I went to in prison. It's not
funny. We have a lot of problems incarceration. Let's sky. Why really
second guessing yourself this episode. Why just because you own a house do you
have to pay tax on it? I don't really, I don't understan anything
about taxes, but like, why just because I have a piece of land
and a building on it or taxes involved? It's not I think I understand
sales tax, you know, Yeah, but what forever tax is the homer
tax? The homeowner tax is permanent because it's kind of what separates um like
one of those giant things that you get in your life. Once you're able
to own property, they consider you like more of a permanent resident of that
state, which means you should have permanent buy in for taxes the state.
Yeah, because you're you're a resident, you like live there, whereas like
when you're a renter, you're never you are living there, but you're not
considered like permancient. Yeah, I love war, I love advertising. Missouri
sucks. I'm a tax evader. Who am I like? One of those
things was true? I like advertising, advertising, school, war, war
bad advertising, cool, never made taxes, and Missouri does suck. So,
okay, have you watched Madmen? Have we talked about this before?
Nobody started fucking Sopranos? Y? Yeah, four episodes in the Sopranos.
Wait, I thought you'd started before. Yeah, but it was back in
college when I would like start shows and just be like fucking around in my
laptop while it was on in the background, and so I didn't actually take
anything in, So like, I might as well be watching it for the
first time now. It's really fucking funny, and I think people forget that
who haven't watched it in a while. It's one of the funniest shows ever,
so far as you get into it. I didn't expect Tony Soprano to
be playing Mario Kart sixty four in one of the first episodes. The way
he holds them controller is really good, and then he just puts his hand
on AG's face. I do like that show a lot. Yeah, very
into it. Yeah, we got We're like watching four. Is it four?
Yeah? Four current shows? Did you watch the new no spoilers,
but did you watch Barry yet? No? Okay, all right, there's
just something Yeah. Three shows and then we're doing Barry tomorrow. We're doing
ted Lasso, Succession and um Marvelous Missus Maisiel season four. I believe Teo
so far, I am stopping down with that show. I haven't seen it.
We're just doing success or. I'm I'm just doing a succession and the
other one, uh something else behind succession, and I think I'm up to
date with Miss Maisel. The succession one is Unfortunate is a bit of like
a dark tale, but it's honest, which is I always watch it with
friends, and then one of my friends, UM got situation unexpectedly but literally
we couldn't watch the episode. Oh like, yeah, let's let's yeah,
don't what's not? No? I mean, I'm just saying, like it's
I get what you're saying, but we understand. Yeah, okay, how
don't we do with that? Um? I think that's still pretty fresh.
But I felt like I curved around it like James McAvoy and one U that
fucking Ever since I saw the Onuma gameplay presentation and he shot that key sideball
on the arrow and it went around corners like James McAvoy the Nintendo stealing ideas
again, I'm kidding um. This weekend I flew to North Carolina to visit
my sister. She turned forty and we had a surprise fortieth birthday for her,
which I thought. The one meat is North Carolina, the one on
Bottomer It's a stupid you really should do him. I hate that guy.
I should do stand up. I'd be big, big. How's your sister's
birthday? It was good. Lots of interesting things that happened. In North
Carolina. Having garage parties is very popular there. So her party took place
in a garage. This is standard apparently to my knowledge, everybody there parties
in garages. Um, and there's built in bars in everybody's garage that you
can serve you I'm moving to North Carolina. Like drinks. Typically they had
karaoke and speaker systems, and it's all based in the garage. And so
when you go to somebody's house, it's essentially like going to a bar.
That's awesome for that to be like a standardized thing like I've seen those before,
but not like standardized statewide somewhere, like I would love to see that
more. My friend had one that was like he had his TV and couches
out in the garage and then he had this like little drum guitar and shit.
But he was the anomaly. I wish it was like a custom where
I was from, I could do that. It was. It's so prevalent
that when we weren't drinking in my sister's garage, she'd be like, we're
going over at a Robin's house, and Robin had a garage bar. And
then we were like, we're going over to Kat's house, and kat had
a garage bar. We went to Like we just kept going to people's garage
bars and we would have drinks and then we'd go to the next person's.
It was like a very standard thing there. I found it pretty fascinating.
And everybody has more booze than you could drink, like they have full bars.
Essentially, it does feel like your bar hopping. But when we did
Katie's party, she didn't know we were having the fortieth, so it was
an interesting experience to surprise her and then have all these subsequent party up like
surprises. We had a this was interesting, a Michael Jackson impersonator do a
full set at the at the at the party, like actually singing or like
dancing. It was lip syncing to hit to Michael Jackson's music Picture This.
We're all sitting there and they turned the music down and they go, Katie,
this one's for you and your fortieth and then they turn the music on
and it's like the beginning to Beat It, and my sister's like dancing,
and then the garage door opens and Michael Jackson standing there, yeah, with
his hand over his hat, just like you could imagine. And the guy
even had that mike that goes in front of your mouth like Michael Jackson would
have if he was performing, and he had everything that made it seem like
he was doing a legit performance, but was lip syncing the entire Beat It
performance and did like the moonwalk and everything. It was really surreal. Holy
shit was it was a pretty like dance moves pretty good. It was not
bad. I think that considering he was doing it on a cement walkway,
he did a pretty good job doing the moonwalk and his little spins and stuff.
He was fully dulled up in all the makeup and hair and everything.
It was definitely like later Michael Jackson if you're curious, like what style he
was in at the time, But it was like towards the end of his
tenure. Yeah, and guy kind of did have tenure. He did a
bunch of fucked up stuff and he oh yeah, yeah, it's a pretty
crazy person. And then we yeah, towards the end, he he let
everyone dance with him, and he even he even had some cake with us
when he was over. Michael Jackson had cake with you, he did,
he had some cake goodness. It was Yeah, it was very interesting.
And then and then the party bus, which was also a surprise to everyone.
So there was a party bus that showed up. We all got on
the bus. Uh, we put on Michael Jackson, and then we went
bar hopping. I'm a big fan of party buses. I think that is
a great deal. Like it's almost like a bummer when you get to the
bars, because yeah, this was really fun, Like can we just drive
around more of this kind of cake back here? It's only people we know,
Yeah, it's not crowded everything everything. Yeah, yeah, we're moving
on a road, which is a fun novelty. We could put our hands
over the driver's eyes and say, oh my god, I don't know where
you party bus I've been on. Somebody has taken their pants down and put
like smushed their butt cheeks against the back window while the car is in motion.
So this tradition. Look, how many party buses have you been on?
A lot? That was a movement that happened every time. Pretty,
that was a moving yours is you? No? No, I don't do
but Willie and hilly stuff like that. I just solid that's a fucking girl.
What is it? Oh, that's just a several hamrhoid sweetie. That's
really You've got like seven assholes. God, look away. No, I
would do a thing where if like a party bus pulled up at a bar
I was at in college and also longer pass college that I should have a
week ago. Yeah, basically, just like up until I was like twenty
eight, I would do this. A party bus bulls up and I'll just
convince everyone I'm with it's like, let's just get on the party bus.
And we would do it, and we'd walk on and I wouldn't lie or
anything. Really, we would just like walk on. Somebody would be like
eventually be like, hey, do you know the bird the birthday boy or
you know the couple or whatever. It's like, no, I just saw
the party bus. I thought it'd be fun to come on and have some
drinks, you guys, And every single time, everyone's in such a good
mood they're just like, yeah, hey, random guy, and I would
just wherever the bus win. That becomes like the story we uh. Like
a couple of years ago, we were at this dive bar over in Brooklyn
and we walked in and it was like right after like things had opened back
up. So we walked in and we were standing at the bar. The
back court yard was open, et cetera, but it was all full and
then this rehearsal dinner in the back room, one of the guys came out
to the bar, just like Kendall Roy and it's like, hey, you
guys looking for a spot. I'm like, yeah, let's pack that over.
I think we're gonna go somewhere else. You could come and hang with
us if you want. And it was like close enough after a lockdown where
I saw the big like family crowd in the back room, was like I
appreciate it, but sometimes I want that to happen again so I can go
hang with some random family during their rehearsal dinner. You guys are talking about
like wedding crashers, but you're just like crashing party buses. Yeah that seemed
less. Uh, I don't know. Wedding crashing seemed like too much of
a like a someone's wedding. This is very expensive. This is like not
I wouldn't feel comfortable crashing a wedding necessarily, but like a party bus,
like that's just a fun time for everyone. Yeah, that's like not the
most important day of someone's life. No, that's someone getting fucking wasted.
Yeah, exactly. Know this random guy came up and that we're all friends,
you know. Yeah, ideally partybus are fun. Um. So we
did the party bus and eight Barbecue and Carolina Barbecue I did. Yeah,
it was very good. It was a couple of places there that have excellent
barbecue grits. I had collared greens and I had mac and cheese as my
sides. Mac and cheese barbecue places grits North. I have grits tonight.
Grits are good as hell, underrated. I think I like gritz I haven't
done that in a hot minute. But I do love I love shrimp and
grits. I've only done that. I've never like ordered shrimp. I don't
think I've eaten it. I'm not like I won't leave a room if shrimp
are present, but I don't go out of my way to be near them.
Them the weirdest way to say I'm a different about something. Yeah,
kids never left a room if there were Irish people present, But I've also
never like gone out of my way to be near them. I'm just fine
with Irish people. Yeah, but now he's made you anti Irish. I
did not expect this turn. I don't understand as the most Irish person in
games media. I can't think of anyone who's Mico hardy Irish present. Yeah.
God, I can't think of anybody either. No, North Carolina sounds
r though I don't want to go. It was cool. I used to
go there all time for like epic stuff when I was in a game Informer.
And then there's extended family out there. So we was Raleigh, right
that Carry which is near you'd fly into Raleigh and then go out to Carry.
Yeah, and then we got some on the end. Last side they
got a trailer down there, so we spent some time there during the pandemic.
And yeah, I like North Carolina. That's good. East Coast development
studios are always kind of in like this random little spot outside for Axis epic.
Who else is out of around there? Maybe it's just them? Oh
no, there's like rock Star Bangalore. Are they still there up in Maine?
Oh? I didn't even know they had one. I think it's like
a purely corporate spot, though I don't think it's the actual studio though New
York doesn't have as many as you would think. I mean they've got like
there's a decent like publishers and stuff like private Division and Avalanche Avalanche, Yeah,
I mean rock Star. Yeah, people can Fly has like a branch
here. Yeah. But rock Star, even though is largely like PR and
like some upper level, it's like a corporate office for the most part.
Yeah, yeah, it really is. I wish there was more. I
do too, But I also kind of like, now that I live here
at this age, I kind of like that it's all over there away from
me and keep the games people out of me. Yes, yeah, precisely.
Um, but yeah, God, San Francisco, there are everywhere.
Oh, lousy with games media, lousy with them. I don't like leave
the room when they're game developers there, But I don't developers seemed pretty pretty
like nice folks overall games media and there the games media in sufferable idiots.
But a game developers seem all right, a bunch of babies, a bunch
of whiny bitches. As I said not too long ago, I need to
get in touch with her. Shit. Um anyway, I want to talk
about video games. Sure, I like video games. All right, we're
gonna get some video games. We've been playing as usual. However, we
had a listener email voice message. Close friend and family had a bone to
pick with us, Dan, I don't know you frame it. I don't
know if she has a bone to pick with us. It's Kayla, and
she's just insane. We've talked about her radio rankings, and she has now
played through most of what I would call like the real Resident Evil games,
which are like all the number numbered ones and all the remakes. Well,
I guess you only played one in two remakes. She never played the original
one or two or three? Um, so she sent it sounds like she
doesn't have a very good education for this argument sounds like she has no grounds
to stand on. She's my family, but I will not defend this.
These are not my opinions or my words at all. I'm just gonna hit
the button and play it. It is very funny too, because people keep
sending her on her disorder, on her community. They keep sending her like
more and more obscure as an evil games and she feels if someone sends her
a game, she has to play it on stream. So now she's done
Code Verona. Stop feeling that she's been doing. She's doing both Revelations.
Now she got like umbrella chronicles. So she just keeps getting and playing through
the first of all Code Veronica, both Revelations and what was the These are
good umbrella chronicles? Oh that in dark Side Chronicles. The Wesker Chronicles are
the rail games, not dark Side Chronicles. That's a new thing coming out.
Wesker Chronicles, those are the rail Laura dumps. Yeah. I just
find it very funny that, like if she hates Resideaval two and four remake,
and yet she's playing through these fucking like wee games, and even Resideaval
fans don't like It's it's very funny to me. Very like your family though,
which is if it's a gift, you're like, well, I I
have to I need it because it was free, and well then I have
to yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to take full advantage of this.
Yeah. It's like your father, like fully involved. You know,
it's just filtering through to the children with him. It's like if he sees
a half smoked cigarette on a parking lot, then he asked to smoke in
the same same concept. Basically, I'm gonna play on this. Okay,
never mind, I'm gonna hit play. I've not heard this. It is
a audio file from Kayla going over her rankings. I think she recorded this
right after she finished four or five or six or something like that. So
here we go. Hello fire Escape through big fan of the podcast, listen
to it all the time, of course. And uh, you know,
I've noticed that Dan likes to update you guys about my Resident Evil Journey,
which you know, I have my thoughts about it, and I know that
you guys are curious of my Resident Evil rankings. That's where you're actually not
disclosure did not grow up playing these games. I officially started my residume Evil
Journey keeping Ny February, three weeks ago. In the order I was born
on a cold day, Reside Evil, Biohazard, then Resideval Village. Then
I played Resumeval one, two, three, four, five, six,
and then Coveronica. So that was all. So I played and beat nine
Reside Evil games. So officially I am a Resonaval professional. I have a
fresh and popping perspective series that I would love to share with you guys best.
Much like a YouTube video, this recording could have started. Now we'll
go from my most favorite first place all the way to ninth number one.
So here they are in first place, Resideval Village, second place, Residume
Evil Code, Veronica, Resident Evil Biohazard, fourth place, resid Evil five.
Okay, it was actually kind of cool. Three sixth place, Resident
Evil four, seventh place, Reside Evil six in eighth place, Resident Evil
two in the last place where it belongs, Resident Evil one. You belong
a long and happy life if I never have to watch a door open again,
So take that as you would like. I know that you're probably seeing
in your praises a list right now, so feel free to send all your
fanmail to my peel box, and I hope you enjoy that. See you
later. Fire Escape, thank you, kay. I will actually say that
ranking is thank you. Most of that ranking is actually kind of interesting.
The first Yeah, first three, I was like, okay, this is
Resumeal Village being number one. It's actually not like that's a really it's a
good game. It's a very taken as a strong like weirdo, I love
this. That's like a tim Turry number two. So again that's weird because
she the fact that she couldn't handle one or two because inventory management, but
she likes fucking Code Veronica. Of all Code Veronica is the worst in terms
of inventory management. There's that whole FIREX thing with your puzzle with the metal
detector that you have to like double back around the entire Arctic research station,
and the thing where you can break the game if you don't have the right
step for the tyrant fight. Like, I just don't understand how that's so
high on her list. Seven being high is also seven very seven, seven
my second favorite Resumeval game. Seven's like it's very very good, but six
being that high, and then yeah, one remake being that low. No.
Five was really high. I was number four for her. Five.
There's nothing to write home about and one and two remake being the last two
is but she played five Yu Dan. I think that that can make it
go up, because playing with a friend or family that you enjoy really does
elevate and experience. Yeah, and honestly I had fun with it. Two.
I saw more of its flaws like I talked about, but it's it
was fun honestly, even six was kind of fun. Up one remake is
one of my favorite games. Ever, However, I'm not surprised when people
say they don't like it if they play it for the first time today when
they're like upper twenties, I don't as salt them for that. But remake
is so to remake that, to remake that low is what throws me.
I mean, that's just it. That's just wrong. And to put three
above both of those is just confusing. I like like the original three more
than I like three remake, which is a weird outtake. Remake is there's
just not forgettable. There's not a lot there. It's so thin, and
it's got like really you know, wacky lines. Yeah I did. I
didn't love it him, Yeah, sucked up. It's better than having a
boring ranking. I guess. I guess that's yeah, there you go.
I'm being the nice one. I can't believe she told us her whole life
story before explaining she gave the date I think we're talking about. She gave
the date that she started playing her resident. It was like an essay that
you write class. In this essay, I will prove that I am a
resident evil expert. Furthermore, ergo, I have come to the conclusion that
perchance you can't just end a sentence in perchance. Oh is the Mario thing
you're doing it? Yeah? Um, okay, I'll give Kayla's ranking.
Yeah, let's let's four out of ten. Let's I'll give it a two.
Fire escape it. I would say that fuse fuse it. I don't
think I have the button right now. God damn it, just to a
fart. We have not fused anything in like thirty episodes. Yeah, we
gotta get back on that. I couldn't possibly give her more than two.
Okay, I think two is good, So we'll average out of the three,
or it's actually like a high two if we were road two and he
was a four. Four is just purely because it's like a unique list.
Yeah, she's a unique person. Yeah. Before Yeah, I went to
a comedy seller. Yeah, it's fun. We don't hate her, I
don't definitely don't hate. Don't hate my sister. She's fantastic. She's just
insane. After that list, do you love her more or less? You
could say a little bit less. You don't lie exactly the same. Would
you leave video as you just saw Dan wink and shake his head and watched
him squirm? You followed team Kayla on Twitch. She does a great job
up playing through residentavals on Twitch. Yeah, followers less less love. That's
the trade off. That's right, I'll take it. I supposedly blue check
marks are going tomorrow again. I can't heard that. Yeah, I can't
good. I want Twitter to burn again. I want it all. I
was so excited. Remember there are those nights where everyone's like doing their like
memories of Twitter and stuff's like, oh, it's not going to be here
in the morning, it's all crashing and burning. I really wanted it to
actually I wanted them to fucking die that night. And it's shambling along.
It's getting worse and worse and worse, but like I wanted to actually die.
I want it to be done, and I want to lose the check
mark. I want all that stuff. Um, it's just it's kind of
still happen right, Like giant news outlets are leaving everything now right. Microsoft
said they're they're done supporting Uh what do they say? Microsoft said that their
API campaigns, which is like this marketing packages, will no longer support Twitter
because Twitter's charging big companies like forty six k a month to be part of
those. Yeah. Insane, Yeah so that yeah, anyway, you know
it is not insane, but kind of because there's like this insanity panic meter.
Is the game Dredge? Oh I want to hear about I know Lucy's
hot on it. I've heard good things about it. Tell me what this
deal is in why I should play it As someone who appreciates like a very
tight, nuanced gameplay loop that can keep you coming back and hooked and rewarding
every step of the way. Dredge nails it. It's like, sure,
it's a fishing game, but it's got this incredible like, Okay, go
out fish, grab a couple certain kinds of fish, maybe dredge a little
bit for supplies from shipwrecks, and then come back trade it into certain villagers,
and it's super quick. You go back to the village and you click
on one icon that's like the shipwright or the tradesmen or whatever, go back
out fish, and then night starts to fall. You've got this like day
night cycle, and obviously if you've gathered anything from the game, it kind
of takes on these lovecrafty and horror elements. I haven't seen a single image.
I don't even know how to look. Is it start fishing? Is
it like what type of fishing? Is its third person? Um? Is
it trying to compare it to what game it would look like like Watercolory Indie
looking Um. Yeah, it has like a maybe like a low poly third
person but it's not top down. It's it's um isometric, and the actual
fishing element is two D. It's typically a timing thing where you're hitting X
at the right time or you're moving up and down at the correct time to
get the fish. But traveling around on the boat is very wind wakery.
You yeah, you are controlling the boat and moving around with your left joystick.
It plays like a dream on the steam deck and traveling around in the
ocean has these wonderfully like iconic moments where sometimes dolphins will start swimming up next
to your boat, and a whale breached in front of me once and I
actually went, oh my god, like it's like I would if a real
whale breached in front of me. I had these. I had so many
moments where I yelled out loud because this game really surprised me. As Mike
said, the lovecrafty and element is really interesting too. What hooks me The
gameplay is fun, but what hooked me is the bait. Right away,
they start saying that something weird is happening at night. The former fisherman went
crazy, and to be careful swimming, or like swimming, be careful fishing
at night. And if you keep your boat out at night, weird shit
happens to you. Oh, stuff starts coming out of the dark. You
see eyes staring at you, whispers in your ear, and then you'll actually
get attacked by stuff like there's crazy like there's tentacle stuff, there's ghost sharks,
there's all sorts of stuff that starts to like come after you. I
think what's fun, though, is the surprise element of it. So I
hate, like I don't want to give all it away because I think experiencing
those surprises. It's like an eight hour game total if you play through it
supposedly, do you know if it runs well on Switch? I don't know
the Steam Deck, and I couldn't. I couldn't recommend steam deck more.
It's such a wonderful game on the Steam Deck, man, I don't.
I don't know why. I for some reason, whenever people were talking about
I was picturing, I thought it looks like down well. I thought it
was like like black and white pixel. No idea why I thought that.
But there's just I wanted to look at this some of these images. Yeah,
so it's you come back to towns and when you're talking to the mayor
or the ship. Right, those character models take on more of a disco
elysium kind of watercolor. They're really good looking, but most of the game
is that kind of low poly. Yeah, maybe Unity Engine kind of look
it's very simple like minimalists. I think it's really good looking. There's you
go to New Islands. You meet this engineer, weird scientist over on this
island with a lighthouse, and he gives you more missions. I'm trying to
think of what game reminds me if it does remind me of Started Valley in
the sense that like there's this day night cycle, and in this one day
you're like, Okay, the fishmonger wants three sting rays, four giant bass,
and then two carp That alone will get me more money because it's a
specific quest he gave me. Otherwise you can still selfish to make money.
You do those quests. So that's your day right there. Sun falls while
you're getting your last carp It gets kind of creepy. You turn your lights
on, which you can upgrade. The lights will help you not crash into
rocks, which will require repairs when you get back, but they will also
they're more likely to attract weird shit at night. So you get back to
the village. Maybe it's like four am. You could sleep. You talk
to the ship right in the morning to repair your ship, and then you
get new research stuff. It's like, oh, a better rod to catch
ocean going fish and not just shallows fish, as well as a more powerful
light, a faster engine. You're kind of constantly upgrading stuff, so it's
like survival light elements meets crafting, but it's all like really bite sized.
You're not out on the yeah, the horror stuff is like really well done
because it kind of sneaks into that gameplay loop. There's been a couple times
where like my ship got really fucked up and I had it took me like
ten minutes to get back to town, which is rare because most of this
game is really cool, like pick up and play bite size like go on
the water. A day in game is probably like five minutes and it's click.
Yeah, it's pretty rapid fire, like go pick this stuff up,
dredge the shipwrecks. Get oh, the stuff I just picked up from the
shipwreck. One of these things I could just sell. But another this widow
on that island wanted to remember her husband, so she'll give me this thing.
It's it's just like a really tight gameplay loop of like they're back,
they're back, Oh right, ten other things I could be doing right now,
But it never feels overwhelming. It's the creepiness of it that really gets
me. If you fish at night, Dan, sometimes you'll get the weird
ones and you'll get a variation of a fish. They're called to aberrations,
and they will be like or I think that's what it's called, and they
it'll be a bass, but maybe it has no skin, so it's like
all the meat and bones. I love that because like I'm a sucker for
even like straightforward like stardu or animal crossing fishing stuff where it's like, oh,
this season or this time of day, I can catch this. Oh,
but I gotta go at night to catch this thing. It sounds like
this has that, but also with like a weird element to it. It
has a fucked up element. And the drawings just like how he was saying
how the drawing of the mayor is really good and artistic and a little creepy.
The fish are fucking creepy. So if you get a weird fish,
um an alternate version of a fish, sometimes it's an absolute freak of nature.
I saw ones that were like all teeth man, just like teeth on
teeth on teeth, and then they have descriptions of them as well that help
explain what happened to them or like what's wrong with them, and they're really
messed up to all. The writing is really messed up. You find bottles
in the water and they're telling a story and the story gets really creepy,
and you'll meet people who will need things from you, but they'll be really
creepy. Everything's so creepy. I met. I went to an island randomly,
and I met a hooded figure in green that was like brain May at
aish and he asked for a very specific fish. So I go get it
for him, and I deliver it to him, and the text said that
before I could even give it to him, he snatches it and just eats
the head right off and like grinds it in his teeth in front of me.
It's just like these like weird descriptions that make you really stressed out.
There's an area in the aisles where you have to get something and you can
hear a fish tracking you or being near you, And the first time you
can see that you could possibly be hunted or be in danger from some of
these creatures, it freaks you out. I fell in love with this game.
I beat it this week on stream. I've put more than eight hours
into it at this point because I'm trying to get all the fish. I've
fully upgraded my entire boat, I've gotten all the collectibles, and I absolutely
adore this game. Similarly to Zelda, it said, you have everything you
need, would you like to finish the game, and I said no because
I can't stop playing it. Okay, this is yeah speaking like I am
looking for something between this and Zelda, and I don't really have anything I'm
playing right now. This sounds ideal right now. Also, the inventory management
your cargo space is a Tetris esque resuval for inventory. Case you have to
say no catch you catch certain fish, like the car will be t shaped,
you know if it Tetris them with the the man raise, which are
huge, but they're sharing space with your rods and yours and your engines.
Yeah, so sometimes you have to get you have to like say no.
You'll get like a giant, amazing fish and you'll be like, I literally
don't have room for this. Um. There are people that get on your
boat and you have to make room for them. It's really interesting. That
sounds awesome. Okay, it's good. Yep, yep, Okay. I
mean I think by the next episode I will have played it. Think it
might be second or third favorite game of the year so far. It will
be in my top ten, no question. What big ones have come out
this year so far. My favorite game of the year so far as Octopath
Traveler too. Oh Okay, so Dredge and resume before are both Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah. Bonk has been playing I don't think this is
new, but Bonk has been playing not fucking down Well dome Keeper. Uh
yeah, that came out a while ago, right, For some reason,
I thought it was a couple of years old. But every time I passed
by and I look at the screen as she's been playing, and I'm like,
I like everything I'm seeing right here. It looks just super dewey.
It looks like, you know, it's got like almost like a missile command
type thing up top and then instead it's like rogue like down bottom. It
looks really really cool. Like, that's another one I want to check out.
Me. Haunted Chocolate Tier is supposed to be this year. Yes,
what's that? It's a sequel to start you it's it's it's chuckle Fish.
It's the guy that made that. It's not a sequel, but it's the
same same guy, the same guys. It's starting valley, but you're a
chocolate tier in a haunted mansion, like selling Chocolate to the showed a trailer
for this sometime, right. It was a direct or, was it?
No? It was a state of play, I believe, okay, and
that's coming out soon. I was asking, I don't know if there's this
year or not, but yeah, it's uh, what's his name is chuckle
Fish or that a publishers. I think it's chuckle Fish. I mean I
think that's the developer that's like pseudonym or whatever. It's the next star to
But yeah, you're a chocolate tier in the like lobby of an old medieval
haunted castle. Is there like like crafting farming type stuff involved? Yeah?
Yeah, really you're instead of a farmer, you're a like artist and chocolate
maker. But what who goes into like like a farm is like animals and
vegetables and beards, like chocolate is just that's where the haunted part comes in.
Yeah. Like, yeah, I was gonna say, I like that
you're saying it's nothing like farming. But then you're like, I realized,
I don't know how chocolate is made. I don't know if you're going to
actually be going from the cow. Do you think that you'll be getting the
cocon Yeah you can. You can tell me it's made from eggs, and
I would believe you. There's eggs in a lot of chocolate, but like
you could be going to get the actual cacao from a jungle. But I
imagine it's just like stuff being transported the castle. I have no idea.
The mind wanders, imaginations run wild. What a time time, I don't
know. I was just God, video games are so fucking stupid. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I think. But no, Dredge is fucking awesome.
It's it's good steam neck game and I have not heard any complaints on
Switch, so either one would be good. Dredge is my number one game
I'm looking to play next. Oh you'll pick You'll pick it up, and
then it will be three hours later and you'll excellent. Yeah. Amen,
good. We're talking about crafting in the Sufferia. And I want to bring
something up here because I have not played this game much at all. I
was just getting it ready because I think we're gonna play it on Giant Bomb,
and so I had to get to the point where could unlock co op
and at Island two and so I have no thoughts on the game as a
whole, but it made me think of a couple of things just in the
twenty minutes I played or whatever. First of all, I thought this game
has come out like eight times, because the first one came out forever ago,
right, it was like fucking twenty twenty third around there, right,
And then there was Dead Island riptide right, yes, which felt like was
that not a sequel? What was it was? Yeah? I don't know,
it wasn't. It was an expansion that turned into a it has a
different case. It was a standalone game, yea different four characters. So
I assume that was Dead Island two. And then Dying Light comes out and
it wasn't Dying Light like supposed to be from the developers of Dead Island and
the game, so I kind of assumed, like, oh, well,
that's the next Dead Island it is. So that's why Dead Island two is
was kind of weird and obsolete to begin with, because Dying Light and its
sequel are both, in my opinion, very good games that kind of rendered
Dead Island's formula obsolete because they took a team. Is it the same team
that made The Winter? Is this just a total they on the IP or
something? No? So this one between three studios. The final release was
from Dambuster Studios. I believe they're Dutch. Might be wrong there, Okay,
but it was a trio of studios that passed between that Deep Silver kind
of moved it between. Actually, now I'm curious, Well, I started
to get to the co op stuff, and it's like I got anything about
crafting because like just in the first you know, ten fifteen minutes or whatever,
I noticed I was like picking up like, oh, you got a
plank of wood and you got some bolts or something, and I could just
tell the way the weapons where it's like, oh right, there's one of
those games where I'm doing a lot of crafting and stuff. And I realized,
like, hey, does crafting suck? Like there are games where it's
really good where it's like I think games that are focused around it, like
Stardo, Minecraft, Valheim, The Forest, you know, games that are
very much survival like like this is the system is like that is the game
is the like crafting and surviving and everything. But like I think like that
Island is a I think more in first person action games open world type stuff.
Isn't it just more of a hassle? Like at this point, I'm
trying to think of, like I hate crafting outside of crafting dedicated game.
Did you like crafting in God of War No, No, the New Ones
No. Well I guess well, then I would think, like maybe our
edge is that like sometimes crafting is an essential core mechanic of the game because
it's about discovering and putting things together and finding out what you can do with
it. Whereas I think in the games we're talking about, they were like,
well, we need a way to do upgrades. If you find shit
in the world and then you find enough of it, then you can upgrade
your weapon, which doesn't feel as satisfying to me. Like I feel like
though, if the game is like an action game, like I don't know,
like the Old God of Wars or Devil May Cry. I know those
are cyclist action games that's different than what we're talking about, but like you
just got red Orbs and you just funnel the red Orbs into whatever you want
to, like, yeah, level up all your bullshit with red Orbs.
Like I don't get any more satisfaction by like oh, I found some tape
and some scissors and some solution, and you know, like I didn't just
did Last of Us. I did? I did, And like I'm trying
to think, like is it fun? Is anyone do we like this?
I like when you have genuine choice. So what I liked about the last
of a system and that exact example that you're bringing up, is that when
I found Solution and when I found Rags, I could make bandages with it,
but I could also make maltav with it, so I could choose whether
or not I was making something for violence or making something for defensive for myself,
and I changed it based on what I needed at the time. That
was fascinating. It was about like giving me autonomy to decide what I needed.
Us did a good job with it. That we Last of Us was
like it was simple enough. There were like, you know, a handful
of different things. You got it and like occasionally would find a bench and
could do stuff with it. I think I'm thinking more of like Horizon,
Like, yeah, Horizon, were eight million dumb fucking things that don't mean
anything and they're everywheres so nothing feels like it matters, versus like you go
into a supply room you found were like, yes, exactly where it's like
Horizon, You're just constantly picking shit up. And I'm not trying to just
single out Horizon, but like there are a lot of games like that,
whereas you're constantly picking shit up. None of it feels special, and it's
just busy work to build a fucking stick weapon or something. You know.
It's yeah, it's like that. It's a combination of scarcity, which Last
of Us does well. Like when you find stuff, it works because you're
already so ill equipped. Fallout I like it as well because a lot of
that stuff Fallout A is more obviously this open ended RPG where you're building this
huge inventory. Dead Island, it's more like the difference between the spike baseball
bat and this electric machette. There's still ultimately doing the same thing and then
hitting two. Yeah, there's no scarcity too, and that first I played
Dead Island two up until I defended those rich people's house, until the character
from the first game showed up with the shotgun to the actor um, and
I just got bored really quickly. And it was the same problem I had
with the earlier games, where scavenging doesn't add to the game because you stop
paying attention to what's around you. You're just looking for It doesn't matter what
those little items are. You're just picking the shelves clean and you're just like
putting the camera really close to the shelves, whereas Last of Us are still
paying attention to your surroundings because the items are not littered everywhere, and there
might be a zombie right around the corner. With dialand too, it's like
there could be a zombie right around the corner, but it's still this dumb
action game. Yeah, Dying Light figured that out because Dying Light actually made
night scary because the zombies get fucking terrifying at night and you're sprinting and you
can look behind you and there's the park or element we talked about at Game
of the Year Dying Light Two's grappling hook. There's there's a lot more at
playing Dying Light. And so tech Land moved to Dying Light, and then
Yeager, who did spec ops the line. Yeah they did some weird stuff.
They also did dreadnom Yeah they did Dreadnought that ship to ship dog Fighting
sixth thing. It was spaceships, but it was like dog Fight specific,
like it was almost a first person shooter but you were using spaceships. It
was actually really fucking cool. I don't know what happened with it, but
then it went from Yeager to Sumo Digital and then it went from Sumo Digital
to dam Bus or studio who released it. But it just I'm playing Dying
or Dead Island too. I'm like I would, I would just much rather
go play Dying Light too. Sign Light two figured out a lot of these
problems to keep you engaged in this world that that Island two has not seemed
to do. Give you a lot of mobility, something that was really interesting
about Dying Light. I mean, you're You're so right. It solved a
lot of problems that it also added so much gameplay element climbing buildings, being
able to run and dive and jump away at such a speed. I'm turning
around and seeing the zombies chasing like that. Um. Environmental damage was extremely
fun in uh in that game. And I just think like this at this
point, it's not that we're not interested in zombie games. I'm very interested
in zombie games. But you do have to move forward, and I don't
see what this is doing that we have an already experience, Like what's new
about Dead Island. What I'm hearing you say is it's time for Dead Rising
to come back. Yeah? God, I loved Rising. Um Well,
firstly, Dan Busters not dutched their English. Um. And secondly, I'm
so fucking done with people setting games in this like ironic California. Oh my
god, we're movie stars and it's Dead Island too, And none of these
studios are American, and even the studios that are American like have this,
Even studios from California have this perception to California, like have you guys actually
lived there and not like in your development studio, Like game developers need to
get out more. Is my take on all this. Except for Nintendo.
They're doing fine. They could keep doing their thing. They're the only good
development studio left. Oh yeah their first party stum. But in all seriousness,
yeah, I I I actually kind of liked um. Well fuck,
I'm forgetting the name of this game. No, um, nintend Motorcycle in
Oregon and Zombie Game the Day's gone. Everyone's face like you were the guy,
You were the guy? Okay. Yeah, it's super fun, but
like at least they were doing new stuff with it. They were doing something
new. It was a warm base. It was really fun. Yeah,
good for you, But I don't know, Oh, yeah, you're so
high brow if you're like meeting of like a quality writing. Yeah, it's
the writing that bothered me, not the boring game. Um, but writing
is what I judge games though. Yes, yeah you know, uh less
must do more talking as it's no hemingway, he said, And if you
play a game and it is true and it is good, then you will
see it for what it is and it will be good. JFK. No,
it's hemingway. J boat guy, did you have a boat? My
fellow Americans, Dead Island two is out today. You must go go to
your local Toys a Ross and get it black Ops, for they're like zombie
motors, like your JFK and fucking FDR right you were to know it wasn't
black ops. You were brainwashed to assassin ate JFK in No. Yeah,
I think one of you could play as JFK and like Castro. I remember,
as if I haven't thought about that before, Trey arc Um. Yeah,
Dead Island two to not leave a great impression. I mean I played
an hour. I'll play it for the stream and then I will never think
about that game again. And I'm a sucker for mindless isombie games. I
love zombie games. I'm always interested, but I think I think it does
at this stage. You gotta mix it up a little bit. You have
to be offering something we haven't seen before. I just I can't get into
it. I don't like Dying Light. I don't know like Dying Light too.
I don't like the first time. I don't like any of those games.
I just don't like melee when you're I don't think it's fun to do
melee when you're surrounded by like just hitting urt while you can't move in a
bunch of shits all around you. Like, that's not fun first person gameplay
to me, Like, that's I don't know, I can't get a dead
rising. I like because it was wacky and third person and like there's a
lot of variety of the ways it was and yeah, and again it had
a lot of innovation, like figuring out the first time, figuring out that
you could put stuff in the blenders and make original concoctions and being like,
okay, I'm cooking now, that's really neat, getting really rare weapons and
saving them for like, you know, specific situation, combining things to make
them into new weapons that you wouldn't you swear wasn't possible. And then,
like you said, doing silly things the first time you like find out that
you can put masks on those zombies. It's funny pictures and stuff you could
take. Like there was just so much like personality there. And I feel
like every time I play a Dead Island or Dying Light, I'm just mashing
urt while things are like bad, bad, and it's just like that's not
fun to me. Ever, It's I've never had a second of fun with
any of those games, and like, I don't are people liking this one?
Is it supposed to be a good one? Mike? You don't seem
hot on it. I from what I've read and edited, I don't think
so. Okay, is it out yes Friday or no? Advanced Words is
Friday. Dead Island two might be out now, I could play a dance
Wards right now. Okay, seventy five on Metacritic. That sounds about right.
I thought it came out mid April past mid a. No, no,
no, it's not. I'm pretty sure Otober of twenty one, two
days. Yes, Friday, Friday, so it'll be out by the time
this is out. Advanced Wars is also Friday. Hell yeah, I'll play
that. I play that. We talked about that last time I played More
Jake was listening to recording and recommended I played the second game instead, just
kind of skip over the first one, Rising black Moon Rising. Yes,
yeah too, as much. I didn't dislike the first one. It's just
I see where it started. Oh they're both on that, aren't they.
Yeah, And it's kind of misleading because they gray out the second game,
I believe, until you do a bit of a tutorial and then you can
choose the second game. But they'll say, hey, we highly recommend you
play the first game first. But Jake was like, now, I just
play the second one, and it's better. There's way more options, there's
more considerations with different units, better more involved maps. The first one was
more just kind of a cool glimpse into like this game Boy Advanced Tactics light
era that they were messing around with when fire Emblem was already in its stride.
Uh. But they're really snappy, the animals, like I like.
I love that you can just fast forward ship when the combat actually happens.
It's simple enough. It's a nice break from the fucking shit I play most
of the time. That's like, I spend forty five minutes preparing for a
battle and then actually doing it as like ten, I feel like, yeah,
Advanced Wars and like Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced those were like, that's my
speed of tactics stuff like like Mike, I know you go super deep into
that stuff, and I think it's cool and games let you do that.
And I like x Com and I've played enough of those too appreciate those,
but like, I think Advanced Wars is kind of a sweet spot for me.
Yeah, I would take Jake's advice and as soon as you can play
the second game, just go to that. The first like feels just like
a big tutorial. Okay, but they look great. Nice. I didn't
play the originals, but yeah they're snappy either. Quick good nice? Um,
are you been playing anything else? Dan? Just real quick? The
Vampire Survivors DL see as ow. There's another one who's Tari. Yeah.
The three Majors in the like the hog orts ish thing in the woods basically,
uh, there's some new characters and a couple of new maps. I
don't really know what the characters are, but they got different weapons and they're
supposed to be these three majors that are from the school nearby in the woods,
like a Wizards school or something. I mean, there's no fucking text
or talking in that game, so I don't know what the fuck they are,
but description entirely, Oh what are the new weapons? Um fuck,
there's like this, Uh, I don't know how many are new and how
many games since like the last DALC, but like there's like this prism thing.
There's this like arrow thing that goes through like in a seven Enemies,
but it has like a really slow reload. Um. You know my thing
with every new DEALC with that is I just go to the challenge thing because
I've I've beaten all the challenges in that game too. Every time there's a
DLC, it's like, oh, here's eight new things I haven't done,
and I'll do those didn't unlock new ones, so I just you know,
checkmark checkbox, go through twe of those, and once it's done, I
would wait for the next thing. So it's just more of that game.
There's like weird puzzles in the couple new maps or whatever, like oh,
there's this crystal in the middle of the map. I gotta figure out how
to break that thing, and you just wind up fucking googling, and you
know it's not It's not like a fun puzzle thing. It's just any excuse
to keep playing that game. I'm gonna keep doing for like a dollar eighty.
So what was that Nicholas Cage vampire movie like that came out recently Renfield?
Did you see Renfield? They have a game that's gonna just be a
Vampire Survivors clone. No, I'm almost positive I'm not making this up.
I mean, I guess that's Vampire Survivors. I see is the movie is
what Nicholas uh Cage is his name, Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Holt from Mad
Max and the what's the what's the fucked up Chef movie from Last de Menu?
Oh? Yeah, yeah, here this on polygon dot com. Nick
Cage's vampire movie. Rinfield now has a Vampire Survivors like game tie in.
Let me see Mike mcborder right that I think Owen s Good Oh Good wrote
that. Okay, yes, let's I think that movie looks very lame.
Uh. I just I don't like any of the ones where it's just like,
hey, I feel like I'm being really complaining this episode, but uh
yeah, we're sucking open God, open your eyes, enjoy things say one
thing you like, Dan, I don't think say one thing you like before
you go forthing I like, Yeah, um anal pocket. I played a
bunch of that on the Pathway. Three. Three things you like? Three
things I like? One has to be a person. Bunk fucking didn't even
think, yeah what. I mostly like things, but yeah, like Redfield
is like, I just don't like the things that are like, oh,
meme, Nicholas Cage, Like I feel like there are a lot of Nicolas
Cage movies Uncei'll take every fucking role where its like, oh, we're he's
gonna be wacky Cage. We're gonna write a bunch of wacky Cage in where
screaming. It's like, no, you don't need to do that. He's
gonna have his own flavor. Let's let him do his fucking thing. You
don't have to try to force it out of him. And and it just
seems like it's trying to be a Nick Cage and I don't like that as
much. But anyway, yes, it looks like there is a Vampire Survivors
Like here, Jake keeps telling me to watch Pig Dude. Yes, fucking
who I trust him? Who tell you Jake. Jake. Jake's right,
Jake, Jake is. I know a lot of people think they are.
Jake knows Nicholas Cage is portfolio better than anybody I know. So Nicolas Cage,
Oh yeah, he was such a fan. Jake uses the what's in
the bag a shark or something line like three times a night when we're hanging
around or something. Yeah from Wickerman. Oh, the woman at the dock
or the guy at the doc comes out. He's like, what's in the
bag shark or something? Jake. Jake also does a really good depression.
Why do you not know this? What do you think pig is? Um?
I've heard it describe briefly as like or at least my understanding is that
his pig gets kidnapped and he goes in a killing spree. Okay, that's
what the trailer is, and yes that you're you're not wrong. You should
watch it and then shut up for the rest shut up, trust Stake.
So it's like, I'm going, you don't to couch. You can just
tell me to shut the fun I'm saying, it's not what you think it
is. Shut the fuck up. Okay, it is so genuinely good it's
not like Nicholas Cage is so waggy. It's just fucking good. Treach the
choir. Like again, I trust Jake's taste there and like he I've just
told him i'd watched it. But I love Color from the Screen and Shake
You. Mandy's awesome. I love I love Mandy. I think Color out
of Space was fine. Pig is better than both of those pigs are really
good. It's the one where he's in the theme park overnight. That's meme
shit. That's yeah. And there is a five Nights at Freddie movie coming
out. Hold on, what is the Nicholas Cage movie where he's in the
theme park overnight. It's like wally World's World something. It's some dumb weekend
at wally Worlds or something. It's Memel Cage. Yeah, that that looks
really stupid. My favorite Nicholas Cage movie is Conner. So that's the bar
you gotta surpass Willie's Wonderland. Yeah, yeah, I'm kidding. By the
way, it's okay. What is my favorite Nicholas Cage movie Moonstruck. I
haven't seen that. It's good. My parents love it. It's one of
their favorite movies. To get like to watch together. I haven't watched it,
so I can't speak to how it holds up. But he has this
whole speech Okay, I don't know if this is like cool nowadays, but
he has a whole speech about how so his brother is gonna marry Share from
what I remember, but they live in Brooklyn and these brownstones, and he
has a Nicholas Cage character as a wooden hand. So he goes off on
this monologue about how his brother has everything because he's got a good job,
he's got Share. And then he's like just going off for a while about
how his brother has his hand and he doesn't. But it's Nicolas Cage just
like pointing at his hand and yelling at chair that he has doesn't have a
hand in the basement of this brownstone. Now that I say it out loud,
I don't know how the movie holds up, but I know the movies
about it, didn't She wanted to ask her for that, right? It's
a rom com. Yeah, oh, but like to Brooklyn Italian Americans in
Love Crazy Kids, the mine wanders quit saying, Oh, to be an
aunt on the wall in that set, an aunt not a fly that's the
new that's the new fly. Oh, to be an aunt, to carry
things much heavier than me, to move breadcrumbs from one spot to another,
to be with other aunts in a line, to all the sexy stories of
people who think they're alone. No, just to be an aunt, to
go into dirt and to cover myself and dirt, and to go into holes
I love. Just to puke into my friend's mouths when they need a meal,
showing up way too late. No, my favorite Nickels Cage movie,
probably The Rock is really good. Yeah, incorrect information, So Mike,
correct me with your aunt knowledge if I'm wrong. But I was under the
impression that worker ants literally don't do anything besides work, so they don't get
food for themselves. So certain ants have food and essentially like they share mouthfoods
so that everybody's alive, but like they don't all like make sure they're eating.
I have no clue. What about that thing I just did makes you
think I'm an ant expert. I just assume that you would back me up
on them. He was not logued about ants for four minutes. Pencers,
he has pencers. So there's worker ants, and are you saying is they're
like an aunt who's jobs, Like they have a station, like they're the
water cooler and you walk up in the middle. Yeah, I think so.
You know what's really funny is I actually think that this information is based
off of a video game I played in the early nineties sam Ant? Was
it the ants EA game based on Woody Allen's Aunts ants with a Z Either.
I think that there was an old game in the early nineties that I
played, and I remember that you when you want to feed another aunt,
you vomited into their mouth. What game would that be? Or you just
basically went that and like food went into their mouths. What possible game would
that be? I don't know. I haven't really thought about it until just
now. This game it's like Sonic Bonus level video games again when I was
a kid. Maybe like sim Aunt when I was a kid. Makes sense?
Yeah, I played this game attack for Doss. Oh it's sim Ant.
You vomit into each other's mouths. Okay, wait, Mary, is
it sam Ant? Damn it? No? I was trying to mess it
Dan. I was going to Protici for guessing was cool? I like,
oh, no, can you mute him? Uh? The power Jake can
that look always gets you in real life, makes you let you really you
laugh when I do it, I don't see it before. If I say
a joke and you don't laugh, I just go okay, yeah, and
that contexts that's pretty good. Yeah, um Mary. Even playing anything else
besides Dredge, I've been playing Factoria, or some people might call it factor
Yo. That's a viny game. Um fucking addicted. It looks that I
thought you were gonna go on what that you just got? You took a
long time to get to the tid at the end of it. I did.
When people say anything you have that has like Dick or listens Gin in
it, You're like laughing before I can finish the sentence. No, lessens
just huge. He's superfeeddate anyway. FACTORYA is not a new game, but
it's a game that my friend is really into and convinced me to play.
You can play with other people on a server, so we decided to play
three people on one server. And it's like Minecraft on steroids because you're not
just surviving, you are building unbelievable machines. At one point, I could
not believe all the stuff that we had constructed and all the machines and factories
that we had built to essentially make science, which is how you can get
to the next level in that game. It was an ungodly amount hundreds and
hundreds of machines and conveyor belts to acquire materials that we could get something,
and a lot of this. To be honest with you, it's for a
certain type of person who really likes optimizing. They really probably like efficiency and
learning how to consolidate. It's not really a game I should like, because
I don't like when that is the only function that I do. But let
me tell you this. There are bugs that attack you, and somebody has
to go and bash those rats. And it was me, And essentially I
became the bug basher of the group. And every time I would create these
alerts, these walls that would protect us from bugs, and then it would
alert me if a bug was attacking us, and I would go out there
with like a big bunch of weapons and massacre those bugs. And then I
would find out where the bugs were coming from, and I would go to
their homes and I would kill the entire nest. And I got really addicted
to kind of being the security of our fortress sheriff. I was the sheriff.
So is this do you have direct control over the character here? Because
like I'd always seen screenshots Factorio and it looked like it was just like a
wunch of conveyor belts and stuff. I didn't realize you could ever like control.
There's a person in there, and all those screenshots probably has a person.
You probably just didn't notice because it's all fucking conveyor belts, so it's
top down and there are little people running around the whole time. Now,
when you're probably seeing those screenshots and a lot of times you're seeing gameplay,
you're probably seeing gameplay of these giant machines being constructed. And when you construct
these machines, it's not like your little person is like building them. It
just appears. As long as you have the materials, the game, you
know, magically makes machines and conveyor belts appear to serve your needs. But
the combat is all live action. Eventually, as you're building up all these
machines and these parts you can construct cars, your little person goes into a
car. I put a gun on my car, and I was like driving
around shooting like ants and stuff and was like die and everybody else was like
working on conveyor belts. It was totally different experience for the people in this
crew. So let's say you are somebody that like you, you have no
interest let's say in the optimization in the building and all that, and you
just want to like go out there and do what you were doing. So
that's basically what you're doing the whole time, Like there's enough for you to
do just in that role. I didn't build shit. They tried to teach
that the forest, you're just killing squirrels while we did bash those rats were
building. I was running around. I killed everything. But I was head
of security, so I had a very important job because if the bugs get
into the into the world, they eat the machines and they ruin all of
your processes. This is a very fine and important setup, which is your
harvesting materials from the world, like you're harvesting copper and whatever, iron and
would and so once you have all these automated machines and systems, it all
harvests and runs and melts all your metals and refines it into materials, and
then you can make machines that turn the materials into goods, and so I
would basically say I don't have enough bullets to kill these bugs, and they'd
be like, I can make a machine that will harvest all of the iron.
I will turn it into bullets, and then I will turn those bullets
into mega bullets, and I'll make all these machines and like kind of conveyor
belt everything. And I was like, cool, put them in this box,
and then like every twenty minutes, I would go to this box.
I would get a bunch of bullets, and then I would kill those fucking
bugs. My job was head of security to make sure that the bugs didn't
come into the room and disrupt the workflow. If the bugs attack our ability
to harvest iron, then the whole thing falls apart. I was very important
that I didn't realize I had all that going on like that. That's like
on the flip side, if you want to if you just wanted to do
the optimization in the building, and all that stuff is there, like you
know, like Minecraft allow the mode where there's no creepers, and it's just
like, oh, it's like creative mode or whatever. I believe that you
can turn down. However of the bugs are we actually had it on a
mode where the bugs were very intense, and I think that that's interesting that
the game allows you to do that, because originally, the first time you
were to play this game, you should probably play it on a lighter modes
that you're not worried about that and you can learn the process of building and
learning an efficiency. But because I was playing with two Seasons players who have
played this game a lot, it's a very fascinating gameplay loop as well,
which is you're not just building machines. You're building machines to eventually take over
like all the resources, and eventually your science gets so good that you build
a rocket and you fuck off, Like what a cool ending. But here's
the interesting catch that I feel like the game doesn't mark it well enough.
As you're building all these dope machines, all these machines make they are making
like smog there, you're making environmental damage because you're bastards, and that environmental
damage pisses off the bugs. So when you start the game, you never
get attacked. The bugs don't really notice you. As you're building these big
machines and you start harness like harvesting all this material. The bugs are getting
pissed off and they start to attack you. Later on in this game,
they are coming out of the woodwork. They're coming from the north, they're
coming from the southeast, they're coming from the west, and all these different
bugs, big bugs, and they evolved too. These bugs also evolved.
There's some commentary there. The more you pollute the land, the more you're
agitating the natural order of things. Yeah, that's right, but it's on
our side. Like unlike those other games where it was like about how we're
ruining the planet, it's about how you destroy a bug land. You harness
every material you can, and then you just like fuck off, you like
get on a plane. Oh, I see you. Okay, all right,
all right, you're kind of telling me on that. I'm telling you
it's actually really good. My concern Dan is, I know, I think
I know you, and I don't think that you would enjoy playing this game
alone, because the idea of like building all these machines is very like draw.
I think you might be wrong about that because like that, I've always
been somewhat curious from Afar in seeing screenshots at this game, and I've heard
vi Any describe it, and like I do actually really like like organization and
efficiency and stuff like that, and like, oh, I can actually skip
this step and that step if I just go straight from here to there,
like I like, you know, like and it's a totally different type of
game, but like Livings, you know, or even like city builders stuff
and everything, like I like being able to find solutions, you know,
out of the box and stuff like that, and like that sounds that sounds
pretty fun to me. Honestly, I think maybe you'd like playing with other
people then, because it's fun. Yeah. I don't know how many people
you're allowed to have on a server, but we had three, and we
all had very specific jobs. Someone was like an innovative lead, basically a
scientist. Their job was to make as much science as possible, which helped
advance technology because when you start, literally you're like melting iron and wood and
like hoping that you can just make some nice iron bars. Towards the end
you're making cars, you're making oh my god, you make trains and all
this. The first time you build a train and you have all these tracks,
it's nutso Dan, you're so proud of yourself. So we had we
had one of those. A good example is shit I just realized, I
don't think you play this game or like this game deak stranding, but talking
about optimizing, I'm not gonna go and hold that tra anything, but like
just once you get zip lines and stuff, and all of a sudden,
it's like, oh my god. I used to have to like ride a
fucking bike all over this ship and it took forever, but now I just
right like that feeling of like, oh my god, I've skipped all these
steps. This is so much more streamlined. Like that is one of the
more satisfying things I've felt in games recently, and I don't think I play
enough games like that for as much as I find joy in that feeling,
So like you actually might like Factoria then, because I think I think there's
definitely some similarities there with basically taking ten minutes to be able to make one
thing and then fast forward and it is a time suck, but like fast
forward eight hours later and all of a sudden, like every time you go
to the box, there's just one hundred in there because it's automating everything for
you, so it's really easy to make everything. What I really enjoyed was
in our trio we had ahead of innovation and technology. We had someone who
was only working on like harvesting and efficiency. Uh oh, I can make
a machine that will make all of this automated, and then I will use
a conveyor belt system to hand deliver it to you because you're north two hundred
miles. And then I was head of security and a bashed fucking bugs.
Okay, I want to play this, Dad. Factoria is great. I
was surprised. I didn't think I would like it, but because they allowed
me to play it the way I wanted to play it, which was,
you know, attack defend. I love tower defense. I love I love
just being able to like U feel like I'm I like playing a little bit.
And it was really fun making these giant towers and these belts and protecting
us from bugs. And every time we had a wall, they would be
like Mary, we're being attacked on the north wall, and I was like,
I got it, and I would like head over with my car and
like hill bugs. I had a fucking blast. I think I played.
I think I'm like twenty two hours in now. It happened really quickly,
but man, it's a really really fun game. Okay, awesome. I
want to go back to that. I also I also want to I need
to play Taryn Nil. I still have not, but I've heard good things
Tary Nil is. Okay, we talked about it last time. I do
love, you know, making forests, but man, I did not like
cleaning up after myself. Yeah, I heard the late game was like a
problem for a lot of people. I don't want to clean up after myself.
That's not why I play games. Do you guys have any other games
played? I just played More Resident Evil with you. It's awesome. Yeah.
Yeah, what about Mercenaries Mercenaries Mode? Oh yeah, that's one two
and uh Dredge actually played. I haven't played enough to like really go super
deep on it. You know what game's super fucking cool in twenty twenty three
is No Man's Sky. I've been very curious about that. It's holy shit,
that is just nothing like what I thought it was. I played it
in twenty nineteen, to be clear, when they did next Okay, that
big update, and I've played since launched, and I assume it's. Yeah,
you get dropped in and the onboarding is much better your it's survival light
elements. At first, they're teaching you how to replenish your life support systems,
which it's it's never gonna get bad enough. You just need to find
like oxygen lying around. Um. You go and you gather some supplies,
you get in your spaceship, you jet off the first planet, you go
to a space station, you upgrade your egzo suit. The game becomes this
really kind of engaging loop of going to explore new solar systems. Once you
get your warp drive, then your warp drive runs out of fuel, so
you've got to go down to certain planets that you've scanned, okay, in
order to create plutonium or whatever the fuck it is, and plutonium casing.
I need to go get these elements. But also you get base building stuff
really early on, and you can have several houses on several different planets,
and you can build warp portals next to each of them, so you don't
have to like travel through the stars again. You can buy your own fleet
of spaceships that you can send out on convoy missions to bring back supplies.
You could build like hydroponics farms on those frigates to continue getting you necessary materials.
But holy shit, just I don't know the planets I've been finding are
pretty unreal. It's crazy how the game is obviously like it's infinite, but
it manages to still feel pretty personal, Like you'll discover a planet that it'll
tell you no one else has ever seen my favorite Yeah really wow. Yeah.
So I landed on a few that's like, hey, this one's toxic,
and then I get through the atmosphere. Suddenly color starts to fade.
On this planet, color doesn't exist, so it's black and white. The
animals are all these like Bronosaurus looking characters. You scan one for some money,
but it also tells you like, hey, they survive because they like
inhale toxic fumes and expel oxygen, and so it's like, oh, that's
how I'm not dying right away. But then I go to another planet that
it's like, hey, no one survived, no one's discovered this, and
it's all these weird stained glass formations, and I claimed land on it to
build a base because I really like the planet. It also had useful resources,
so I named it Cathedral after the stained glass. And then I went
to my this copper deposit, there's this whole there's terraforming. You can just
create caves. I mind this copper deposit and accidentally blew open a hole to
realize that this planet had a massive, like planet wide underground cave network,
and ended up going super deep into one. It was all this glowing fun
guy and whatnot. And I got to the bottom and I was like,
I kind of like it down here. I'm gonna build a house. I'm
gonna put my warp portal down here, and that was like my third house.
It was a terrible location in terms of like being near materials, and
also you can't land your you can't summon your spaceship down there because you're underground.
I could bust out a hole above it, but I kind of just
like having it there. There's an elements of role playing and being attached to
that planet, but then you go back to the space station you're doing.
You could do like smuggling runs for certain factions. Every once in a while
you'll get ambushed and being dog fights. You can buy like on your frigate,
you can have a hangar full of like eight different spaceships that you're flying
around that are good for one thing or another. One is fast, one
is better, has more cargo space. If you're doing it a resource run,
holy shit, Like I don't have a fleet of frigates and cruisers yet,
but I want one, and also I haven't yet. You need you
need to upgrade your warp drive to be able to travel like four dimensionally or
sorry, three dimensionally. Right now, I'm just traveling along one plane a
different solar systems, but you can end up going up in the star chart,
and from what I've heard, things get really weird at a certain point.
But God, just like taking off from a planet, going up through
the atmosphere, being in space, they've streamlined so much to travel it's really
fun. I considered going back to it because, like again I haven't played
since launch. Now, I everyone hated it to launch. I actually kind
of thought it was interesting, like meditative, and I was kind of into
it at launch, and I got a code for it when PSVR two came
out, and I was like, oh, man, I wonder I'd like
to go back and see where that is. But and I also realized,
like, I don't know, I think I'm curious about that game, but
I don't know if I want to go back in VR, because like I
feel like that's the type of game where I just want to like play late
at night for hours and just get kind of lost in it, you know,
like I think that might be the way I want to go to it.
I tried it in VR for the same reason, and then I was
like, Oh, this seg game's cool. I want to see all this
normally to not have a headache for ten minutes. Yeah. Yeah, because
it really is still has that meditative quality and it's it's you can you start
off like I said, it's like a survival light game. It's almost like
Valheim without the bosses because you're going from different biome to different biome and crafting
oat in order to get there. I need to go harvest this. Eventually
you can become this like role playing game where you are like in these guilds
or if you want to be doing that, or just keep doing this single
player meditative thing like it has not gotten old yet. Going to a new
solar system and finding a planet that's like, holy shit, I didn't know
planets could be devoid of color. That didn't I love that idea of like
not every time you land, Just like, what the fuck is this?
Um? Did they did they add multiplayer? Like real multiplayer? Because I
know where there was all that confusion. There's there's so I could like see
you running around and we could go like build stuff. Oh you can vite.
Oh they're straight up co op and you can mind each other. You
can help each other, share resource and build stuff and fly with them.
It's great munds fun. Yeah, it's really good. I also I don't
I'm sure they've updated the algorithm or whatever it is that creates planets when you're
traveling, but um, the base options. Like, right now my focus
is basically I like always said I haven't played enough of this, but I
really have. Actually now they think back in it. But right now my
my focus has been on getting base upgrades to just make cooler houses but also
more useful houses so they actually have plants inside that I can harvest, um
bots that can go out and gather stuff. Um. Yeah, I had
no idea how in depth the variety of planets gott. I knew it was
like infinite, but I always assumed it was like, oh, different color
palette, different animals, like no, this one, I land on another
one that's just eerminent fog. And every once in a while I would just
come across this random jungle in the middle of this like planet wide fog,
and then the jungle. I scanned the plants in the jungle, and it
said that the plants themselves were dispelling, like in order to survive, they
were dispelling something to keep the fog away. So then I tore down a
couple of those trees, made a clearing and put a house in there again
like and then made it like cleared out a little landing pad for my space
ship, put the warp portal there. So I have like four warp portals
across the galaxy right now, so you can immediately go back there from any
space station. I believe there might be an upgrade to a spaceship or a
frigate that you can get to work back. But it still has that meditative
quality because a lot of the time you're just fucking mining sodium and oxygen to
supply your eggs of suit and whatnot. It's good. I feel like there
were like three games that I want to like start playing tonight, and from
just this conversation, yeah, it's it's good. No meds. It takes
about an hour until you're really free traveling because they're it's still pretty complex.
They're teaching you how to do a lot of stuff, and the UI takes
them getting used to It's it's a Destiny esque cursor or Assassin's Creed cursor.
You're moving around the screen. Yeah, and once you select an item,
you then have to drag it to the slot where you want to use it.
But once you get the hang of all that, it's it's meditative.
But it's also just like it's the first time in a while I've just been
enjoying exploration for its own sake as opposed I mean, you're still finding some
pretty useful stuff on all these planets, but I keep taking these quests.
It's like, go take a photo on a toxic planet, or go take
a photo on a desert planet. And one desert planet I went to looks
like an everlasting gob stopper from space because it's like just desert. But then
it's got these weird obelisks every like ten feet. So I planted, like
half of it has been licked and the other half is unniched. Yeah,
I had hair stuck to it. Yeah, so good, got Linton goop
on it. You just kind of wipe it off on your chest and go
back at it. Yeah, I got it. No, man, Sky
is rad Um. I haven't tried the smuggling stuff yet, but I might
at some point. That's I really think I'm gonna start that up too.
That sounds I think. I think no Man Sky and Dredge I think are
my immediate after this podcast. Dude, Dredge is such a winner. Um.
What an absolute surprise of a of a game this year. I had
no expectation that I would fall in love with that game as much as I
did. I'm excited. I feel like I've just been in like a loop
for with the travel and everything. I've kind of just been doing the analog
pocket and just like my Fortnite stuff, Like, I haven't really had like
a game game that I've been like sin Freseni before, which and it wasn't
that long ago, but I need a symptom so holding pattern until Zelda.
Yeah, definitely, because I know that's just going to completely take over my
leg. Yeah. Do you guys want to do emails? Yeah? Okay?
As always, you can write into fires get cast at gmail dot com
for questions, comments, concerns, corrections. I won't read the last ones.
I throw them in the trash. Right click delete permanent delete, Get
out of here. With your fucking Actually this is all through job. I'm
just kidding. Julie fires get cast at gmail dot com questions. We got
a couple tonight. This first one is from Tim Dandy. Wait, does
it make sense to do no? Mary, Actually makes sense for you to
do this one because this Canini related the first one. Yeah from Tim.
Okay, Hey gang, I'm very glad you are all back doing Canini again.
Me too, Me too. This is not the email now, I'm
just reacting to it. We love doing I love going back to Knini.
I get really excited. So this makes you very happy. Okay, I'm
now I'm gonna start reading this again. I've been rewatching Mike and Mary stream
the original Resident Evil four at game Spot over six years ago, and I'm
really enjoying the banter and seeing the differences between the original and the remake.
That's cool. Mary just lost a piece of jerky down her shirt and then
ate it shortly after episode fifteen fourteen thirty. What a good time stamp for
all those who want to really know, specifically when I lost a piece of
jerkey. Girls so embarrassed jerky ovans all the time. Anytime I wear like
a v neck or a low cut shirt. I always get something in there
and then I find it later. You're always eating food out of here.
Hey, if guys can have the flavor savor beard, so can we.
Wouldn't the analog be like if we'd dropped some popcorn under our scrotum or something.
No, no, scrotums and boobies are not equal. I don't need
the parts. No, no, no, no. Genitals are its own
world. You just you just wish you had an equivalent to titties, But
you don't get a range A movie rating. It's in the same general ballpark.
You know, I don't know. You don't really see peen in movies
like you do see titties. You see titties in PG. Thirteen. Right,
if it's hard, if it's like, if it's it's Titanic Titanic,
If it's that, it's you can do it, but ours more. Have
you guys seen The Deep Fake with Arnold Schwarzenegger as her? God damn it,
that's such a tangent. It's like, look at my boobies. Jack,
maybe, like, what do you the voice too? Oh dude,
it's I watch it maybe daily. He's like, He's like, I expect
you get what I want. Look at my boobies, Jack, look at
them anyway, I'll send it to you guys. It's greats go on,
okay? If no, no, If Jack was painting her and she dropped
some jerky while she was getting painted and picked it up and ate it,
it would have the same rating because boobies are not the same as like him
showing full scrolls. There's not a lot of scroting movies either, trying to
think in a movie we're mortal enemies on this What movie has a scrowed a
minute? You guys are having can name a billion of the arguments. Oh,
there is a scrotum in uh Waiting? Oh that's right, yeah,
Mike. Is that the one you watched in my basement by yourself? I
know you maybe watch the sequel, which is somehow worse. How could you
possibly want to watch the sequel to Wait mis visiting? I know I'm not
here often, but I need to watch Waiting two. When you're in this
dungeon basis wat Rana the chat. It was not me. I sat on
a concrete floor like legs crossed, and then he drove the Mario Carmen to
read this email. Yeah, in the spirit of this jerky moment, what's
one thing that you cringe about from those old days? And how have you
seen your fellow hosts grow over the years. I hope y'all are stoked about
having built a great community and maintained cool jobs for so long. Cheers,
Tim, Tim, think you that was really cool email? That makes me
this like made me smile. Fucking Jedi moment. It's not my favorite,
but that was that such a moment. Oh, I'm going to writing too.
Oh man, that's okay. Boy. When I when I cringe about
from those old days, um, probably a lot. I don't tend to
watch stuff from that era. Really. I'm specifically because the video I did
that i'm embarrassed of. Well, it's not like full embarrassment. It's like
I feel like watching that it's like reading really old writing. It's like it's
just inherently embarrassing, Like, oh my god, I'm so much better than
yes, I think. Yeah, if I look at a video from like
twenty ten or something from Gaming four World, just be like I had no
idea how the fuck to talk and just be natural on camera. Just I
feel sort of like, hello, welcome, to replay and just not even
that I'm just monotone and like I just didn't know what the fuck I was
doing, though not really cringing, but just like, oh fuck, I
was clueless. I wonder if it still exists before I worked at game Spot.
I'm actually very proud of a lot of my Game Spot stuff, even
the embarrassing stuff. I think is funny, and I look back very fondly.
I remember doing a lot of news with Jake actually, who edits the
podcast. So anytime the person who hosted our news traditionally, which would either
be Chris Waters or Jess McDonald if they were sick or they were out unexpectedly,
I filled in for the news, and Jake and I would always team
up and do the news together. And every time we did it, we
did something really fucking dumb, and we did it possibly because we were just
like Wiley and maybe because we were bored. But if we did the news,
we did something so wacky because it was funnier to us. And so
we came up with all these really funny ideas, and you'd think if I
look back on them that I would be like, oh my gosh, these
are so bad and are like ideas were so stupid. But I love every
one of those videos. I have a reel, Oh my gosh, like
so wild. I would say the equivalent of Mike, You're about the author
is like maybe one of my old old videos that I used to make,
because I made a lot of videos before I worked at game Spot, and
one of them I made a fake show called Indie Pick where I talk about
indie games and pretend to be a host so that I could send it to
game Spot and be like I can host and real that you made intended to
work in games media so that I could get the job, and I don't.
That is embarrassing. Ben was not going to fact check you at game
Spot. I know, but I didn't know that, and I, um,
I'm actually I like at that time, I man, I was hungry.
I would do anything for that job, and so I I invented reels.
I like, I did odd jobs I could put it on my resume.
I did everything that I could to be like, I'm the perfect employee
for you game Spot. Like I it was all manufactured. None of that
is an accident or luck. I mean, there is always luck in getting
a job. But what I'm saying is is like it was calculated how much.
I basically was like, yeah, check out this reel I made of
you know when I covered games in Australia, and it's like I just invented
that show. I just made things up. It's like a Rob Handley's and
the Weatherman. That's right. Yeah, that's a really good example. Or
you just like you're kind of getting by, but you do use those things.
Rob was playing this Weatherman and then all of a sudden he's he just
starts like cheering and shooting fire out of his hands. It's really good Rob
Handley clip. Yeah. I probably if I were to watch more of my
old stuff, I would find more stuff that I was embarrassed. But like
I think a lot of old stuff I did was funny. There is an
old video, Mike, what is it? Me and you were in a
game Informer record my Heart a game inform searching? Is it the you draw
tablet? But you look like you're a literal child in it? Uh?
It came up recently, What the fuck would you have been on? We
had you look on? We talking about when I was like clearly miserable to
be on the video. Maybe do you remember what why we would have had
you? I would have been very early we you days? Yeah? Fuck?
What the fuck was that? You're on the couch, we're in the
meeting room. Probably zombie or zombie you? Zombie you? Why would we
have been at cams for that? I don't know, ah, man,
I wish I could find it. Um, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, that's weird to think about, because god, I was twenty
years old. Yeah yeah, fuck, I yeah, I can't think of
but sorry, UM, I think the other half of this is also not
just what we're embarrassed about, but um, how have you seen fellow hosts
grow? And I've absolutely seen people expand and grow, And I think someone
that I think really grew a lot was Abby. I think that she's phenomenally
entertaining and she was always funny, but I think she learned a great deal
at her time, and I always loved watching her flourish in LA now and
I like seeing where she's going to go with her career. But it's really
cool to see that fundamental knowledge of like how to produce a show and how
to construct something four games with her background. I think she's a fascinating person.
Yeah, totally agreed. Who else has grown is that it? She's
the only one bunch of losers other than that hell Hanson boy, Howdy Hanson
went from like when he was the video guy Game Informer. I found him
fascinating. I was immediately really good friends with him, and he had such
interesting personality and I was like, we gotta get you on the ship that
you you say when we're just at the bar or a party or something like
that, like you're fascinating to talking about this stuff, and man, I
want to be hoss, be in the backgrounds, just edit the stuff all
does. He never wanted to be on it. And occasionally I'd pull him
onto stuff. I pulled him unto like a play through of Yoshi's Island and
stuff and kind of got him like a little more comfortable with that stuff.
And now he's mister look at me. Here's mister hey, it's my show,
The Men Max Show is starring Ben Hanson. Hey, Razzle Dazzle,
He's you know, razzle dazzle. He's listening right now and he says all
those he's but no, he is so obviously comfortable in that role. And
after seeing him like on those cover story trips where you know, I didn't
know what the fuck to ask any game developer about anything. I could review
games all day long, but like I didn't know what to ask developers.
Hanson would be there. Just ask he if you gave him five hours,
he would fill every one of those hours with questions for developers, and like
fascinating questions that you could tell he was really interested in. And it's like,
why not harness that for why don't you do this? Why don't you
interview people? Why don't you host something? And now to see what he's
doing and like killing it like they're they're killing it at Men Max, and
he is fronting the thing. I think he's easily the first person that comes
to mind as far as that goes. Yeah, I don't know him as
well as you do, but I've liked watching Midmax as a whole thing.
Grow. Yeah, he comes up with amazing ideas too, Like he really
does like and I like the fact that he'll do out of the box stuff
where it doesn't even have anything to do with video games. And yeah,
he's he's absolutely killing it, he really is. I like deep dives,
or I like the doing a thing deep dive with them. I did that
Mario six four one with that with him and that was really fun. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, he's great. Okay, thank you, Tim,
appreciate. I feelure just brokfe by. He's a psychopath. What a weirdo.
He's kind of crazy. I mean both can be true, you know.
All right? Uh, Dan, you want to read this one.
It's not as long as it looks, just like a block of text.
Yes, from rich in Pennsylvania. Yeah, hey guys, this question is
for everyone, but it involves dance, so I guess he can read it.
But a little background about it. About a year ago, I was
watching Dan stream Battledome hell Yeah on Twitch shout out to tell my battledome freaks
that the email said that he ended up rating a small random channel because they
were playing Mario Sunshine. I followed the raid, ended up sticking around for
the whole thing, then kept tuning in. I got to know the people
on the channel. I like small channels because you can actually talk with people
without getting lost in a sea of chat. They ended up being super cool.
Fast forward a year and now we talk on discord pretty much daily,
played games together on the regular, and I consider them to be good friends,
not in like a weird one way para social way like genuine friends.
Plus they convinced me to stream on Twitch myself. I just hit affiliate tonight.
Congratulations. So my question is, has there ever been a seemingly small,
random event in your life that ended up having a big impact on you
going forward, maybe a chance encounter leading to a job opportunity or something.
Thanks for all you do. Love the podcast that's Rich in Pennsylvania. Wow,
that's a really good story. That's awesome. I love that. Yeah,
yeah, no, no, I'll go for it. Mine is such
a random little thing that I think could have had huge ramifications going forward.
I was in college and I needed the job. I was living in the
dorms and it was for like raising money for the KU, just the school
for KU. And they had like a like a cattle call type not audition,
but what do they call it? An interview process? I guess we're
like, Hey, a bunch of students are going to come over and we're
gonna have a cattle call interview thing and at the end of the weekend or
whatever, we'll see who gets the job doing cold calls or whatever. And
I started walking over to this thing. It was at like seven o'clock at
night, and it was like across one of the main streets, and I
was like, it was snowing, and I was like, I'd rather just
go back and hang up my friends and play double Dash or something. And
I turned around at one point to turn back to the dorms and not go
to this thing. And I was like, nah, we'll see, maybe
those would be a cool job. I don't know, let's let's walk over
there. So I decided to go. Wound up getting the job. Wound
up like most of like my social circle for like the remainder of college,
and this was just like sophomore year was all kind of based around this job.
And it was about a year into that job a friend of mine,
Charlie, was looking through the local paper and he knew I was obsessed with
games. I really wanted to write reviews for games and stuff. And he's
like, oh, damn, look at this, and he pointed to like
there was like a wanted thing in the paper of like, oh, do
you know video games? Do you want to review video games for the Lawrence
Turnal World, you know, send in some samples here. And it's like
holy shit, and got a warad just come out, the first one,
and so I wrote up the sample long story short that led to the whole
thing of me writing reviews, going to E three, you know, the
game and former stuff. So like if I had actually turned around and been
like, I don't want to go to that interview, I who the fuck
knows what happens, you know, and that seemingly just like add snowy,
I want to go back to the dorm. Like if I had done that,
who knows, who fucking knows? None of this ship could have happened.
Wouldn't know beyonda wouldn't have had my jobs, wouldn't know you guys,
just that one little tiny fucking thing, you know. So yeah, I
think about that one a lot. Yeah, mine would have been my career
wise, it was. I don't I don't know what it would have what
the moment was, but I definitely remember telling you i'd never seen Terminator two,
and that's when you actually started like talking to me way more. I
just started yelling loudly. Since then, you've just been screaming at me every
day of our life. Yeah, Mary, it would have been a game
spot. I remember there was one day when I kind of overstepped because I
was had just moved to San Francisco and I was maybe a week and a
half, two weeks into working there. On the way out, I stopped
by Rob Handley's desk, and He'll be the first to say it, like
he's literally coming to stay here at my place in like two weeks. We're
good friends now. At the time, I barely knew him though, so
I was like, oh, I know, I made friends a game inform
fairly and I was super young, so like a week and a half in
a game spot on the way out, and like I just stopped by to
chat to Rob and kind of like him and Josh were sitting near each other,
so like cool, yeah, I mean, like if if you guys
end up doing anything, just let me know. And on the way out,
and then I think Rob took it as like, who the fuck is
this guy? He's trying to encroach on our fun? Yeah yeah, and
now flashboarded now and I'm like the cool one of the group. Sure,
so it's kind of funny. Let me bring you back down to earth.
Here. I found the video. It is the test Chamber of Zombie You.
I'm not on it, but Mary if you want to go to thirty
three seconds on it to see Mike Mhardy, adult gaming professional looking like a
literal child. We pulled out a daycare to be on a video. Send
it for you, the fire Escape. I still look kind of like a
No, I look like an adult now in this fucking video. This is
unreal. Yeah, go too. So anyone at home search test Chamber Game
Informer Zombie you and then what's the time frame. It's like thirty two,
thirty two seconds or something. It cuts to mahardy. Oh my god,
I went to the Oh I still have it. Oh my god, you're
so cute, little child, this tiny little boy talking about the faborite video
game. God, he's a fetus. Oh my god. I don't even
look this like my skull has changed. You look like a different person.
Has your falls not dropped when this was shot? Absolutely not. I wasn't
old enough to drink legally. No, it didn't stop me. Um no
to get sappy though. Two years ago, I came home after like my
sixth annoying date in a row. Not in a row, not days in
a row, but like six people I had went on dates. So I
was like, oh, this sucks, and I was like, I'm gonna
delete Bumble. It's really annoying. I hate it. I didn't hate it.
I was like, I like being single, it's fun, and I
like being solo. Uh. So I went into Bumble and then I was
like, oh my god, I never responded this message from this girl named
Amanda, so I said, and she was super cool. She said,
hey, what's up cat dad and a few other things. I was like,
She's like, are those are cats? I was like, yes,
those are my cats. It's not my frenchie. I use Simone as my
like front photo. It's all connected. I'm the reason you're getting married.
And then we want on a date a few days later, March nineteenth,
twenty one. And then we wanted to date the next day, and then
we spent well, now we lived together and we're getting married, but we
spent like four or five days together every week. And I almost just like,
straight up the lead of the app. Wow, yeah that story at
the wedding. Wheneficiate it's on the web because it's because of Simon. Yes,
Semon, that was my like bio. It's like the cats are mine,
that dog is not. Can Simone be the flower girl. Oh my
god, Yeah, we can kill that just farting down the aisle. Yeah,
um, I think for farting down the aisle, I can, though,
if you want it's your wedding, I'll do it, Mike, if
I'm up there, like doing the efficient thing while you're both there and I
just tear asked, just loud enough for you two to hear. Would you
be able to like no, sell it like not? No. I would
lose my I would jump into the harbor, laughing, lose my mind.
The powers give me a microphone pretty close to you. Yeah, I'll grab
it. I'll just go back there and do that. And rolling in her
chair so uncomfortable. There's a lot of times where I feel like I did
something seemingly innocuous at the time that ended up having really awesome results. I
think very similarly too, Rich Twitch has a lot of those moments where you
think you're doing something small and then it ends up being really meaningful and kind
of alters your life. And I am obviously biased, but I have to
say that this story is very meaningful to me because I think it's a part
of the reason why I I really believe in twitch as a service, because
I think what ends up happening is is you go there for entertainment and then
you maybe sometimes find more and you find deep, meaningful connections in people or
the experiences that you have, and I do believe that they can be life
altering. When we worked at game Spot, I remember Eric Tay, who
still works at game Spot. He was telling me about the site called Twitch
and how crazy and awesome it was, and he was like, it's live,
like everything that's happening, it's like all live, and it's just a
crazy place. You have to see it. And so Eric Tay like convinced
me, like, check out Twitch for the first time and understand a little
bit more about it. And I knew some friends in the industry that were
going live once a week each so that it wasn't overcommitted, and to me,
that was enough that it didn't scare me. I think, for whatever
reason, sometimes starting your own channel is really scary. What if no one
watches me and I'm live to no one that's you know, that scared me.
But going live on a channel that had maybe like six other women on
it, it was like, oh cool, somebody will be on there because
there's all these other people that are doing it and they're cool. So I
went live for the very first time on somebody else's channel on a shared group
channel, and I did a show called Indie Discovery. I think I forget
actually what it was called, but it was like probably Indie Discovery or Indie
whatever, and I played an indie game every week. And that actually resulted
in me falling in love with streaming and starting my own streaming channel, and
that caused me to think a lot more deeply about my relationship with streaming,
and I got really interested in learning how to technical direct. A very small
but important caveat to that is that Vinnie asked me to help with the Big
Live Live show and I said, I don't know how to, but I'm
really interested in learning how to technical direct. And Vinnie showed me how to
use my very first switching board, and it was a very simplified version of
a switchboard, but I learned how to switch from the Big Live Live show,
and then from that, another friend of mine who worked at game Spot
named Shaw told me he would teach me how to use a TriCaster, which
is a very complicated piece of hardware, and I learned how to use a
TriCaster from that information and like essentially and eventually switching a lot of our live
shows at game Spot. I used that education to get to Twitch, and
so when Twitch started looking for people, they were looking for hybrids. I
believe this fundamentally to my core, and I'll say this to anyone. What
was really valuable to a lot of companies is if you can do multiple things,
not just right, but beyond camera or maybe even like you know,
technically direct. And I had all of those skills. So I think what
helped me in my career was picking up technical director from Vinnie and Josh and
picking up all streaming from my friends. And I think all these different components
is what led to my career. I think it's what led to the life
that I live that I love so much. So I think this is a
really cool story. Rich Like I'm I'm really glad that you found someone from
a raid. That's literally why raids exist on Twitch is so that you can
have an experience like this, and I want to, like, I want
to like screen shot it and like show it some like my company, because
I think it's really important to remember that the things that we create at Twitch
they're not just for fun. I think they make meaningful relationships. And I
can't tell you how many people I've met that got married because a twitch,
or met their best friend on twitch, or change their career because a twitch.
And I think that's really cool. And now I'm gonna stop talking because
it's obvious that I work there and I really like it. No, I
do not work there, but I will also say that, like what you're
saying at raids, I feel very strongly and like that's one of my favorite
things when I'm ending a stream is like, you know, how easy is
it to just look up like okay, I'll look up Mario Party or Mario
Sunschin or just a game or whatever game I was just streaming and find I
always like to find someone that has like three, four or five view ors,
twelve view or something like that, where it's like, Okay, they're
clearly like they've got a little bit of traction here. They got some people
watching, but what if they had five six hundred more people watching? And
like it's also great that my community is always very very cool and very welcoming
and polite and all that stuff. So it's like you see it happen where
people are just like, oh my god, oh wait, huge is that?
How many people just came in? And then everyone's really nice and then
you see them kind of calm down. They're like, oh my god,
this is crazy, this is awesome, and like people will subscribe, people
will come back, and I found a lot of people who are doing really
fucking cool things on Twitch. Two very very small audiences, and I love
like it's it's a couple of clicks, it's a command in the chat,
and then all of a sudden, it's like, here, here's a thing
that will help you get to affiliate or help you find an audience. Like
that is awesome. It really is. Yeah, I think it. It
is. They're small things that can be really meaningful to people, and I
think that's important. Right. It's a small, seemingly innocuous thing, and
then all of a sudden you found your new favorite person or you found a
really good friend. So um, I think that's a great story, and
I really appreciate you sharing it with me. So thank you, Thank you
very much. Rich, appreciate it. Those are emails, thank you everybody
who wrote it in Rich, Thanks folks, Rich and sorry and Tim as
usual. Like I mentioned fire skip past at gmail dot com. That's our
show. That's episode fifty two three. I never I want to look at
the fucking calendar. When can we talk about Zelda? When's the episode?
How many episodes until we can talk about Zelda? It's okay, So this
one goes up on the twenty fourth, The next one will go up on
the eighth. The game comes out the thirteenth, twelve twelve, okay,
okay, so that's twenty second. We will have had some good time with
it. I mean that whole fucking weekend of the twelve. I'm definitely planning
it, okay, all right, hell yeah, I'm We're a few episodes
away. Yeah, it's gonna happen. Looking forward to it, Dan work.
What can people do on Spotify in the meantime, Let's click a couple
of buttons, not really buttons, it's your phone. Just put put your
sweaty, gross flesh on your phone screen. I don't know if it's sweaty
or grows. I don't know. You look, you probably have very nice
fingers. I don't know, but just just press your your grubby little paw
on well. I don't know, I don't know if your hands grubby,
I don't know what grubby means. I don't know why I'm insulting you when
I'm trying to ask you to do a nice thing. Here, take your
well manicured, perfectly clean, just wonderful to look at, wonderful to the
touch, I'm sure, and just press it against your nice phone. There
on the five stars on Spotify and that's all you got to do. It's
a very nice thing, thank you. But if they want to give us
four stars? What was the name of our podcast? The kind of funny
game cast and sunny other aliases. There's min Max. It's the besties min
Max. Definitely. Yeah, no good stuff there, yeah yeah, Mary
fire Escape merch. What can they buy? Um? You can buy so
many cool things like uh, mouse pads and mugs and banana yellow t shirts
and we have do we have a crop hoodie? Now? Holy shit?
Um? So check out our merch and we have a whole plethora of teas.
And we should do a new run soon. I think we should.
We should think I think we should summer bikini's thongs, banana hammocks, get
the mama, I will Okay, what's that one? But it's like a
fire escape Mama. Yeah, okay, here here's the deal. Okay,
I if you get a banana hammock made or a speedo, I will sell
all and people and people buy. We sell thirty of them. I'll wear
it to the pier one day in my backyard. How about this? Uh?
We use we use fourth Wall. Correct, we use fourth Wall.
We also have Merch on Bonfire. They're both legit, but fourth Wall is
the one that has more items. Fourth Wall has fanny packs, so if
that counts. Oh no, that's I'm just naked but wearing a fanny pack.
Calendar. Fanny packs are in, are they? Oh they're outside of
our business. People wear them a lot. Really, let me see.
I bet you they have more stuff. Um since the last time I did
a fourth Wall review. So why don't I check out the new items from
fourth Wall and see if I can find like a new item drop because I
think it'd be nice to be like it's summer, summertime. Here's a thong,
fire fire skate merch dot com. And also, you want to go
support us on Patreon. You want to unlock our ad free episodes and you
or and or the video episodes that fire escape cast dot com. Go check
those out. That's our episode, Dan, what you have going on?
A fire Escape song? I would, I guess for novelties for my own
be a funny thing now own just objectively, Um, Mike guy, I
am. I got the giant bomb dot com. We've been doing a lot
of really fun stuff over there lately. She should have a bunch of travelog
stuff from the California Trips, Superintendent Land, WrestleMania, stuff like that going
on. Did some live stuff dream Haack playing four Swords Adventures through the Magic
of the Internet. That has been very fun to It's this held the game
that no one could play because you have to have a bunch of game Boy
advances and shit. So yeah, that Mike Mnadi's playing RoboCop for Xbox.
That's hilarious. So a lot of good stuff going on Giant Bomb right now.
And then my twitch is dan Rykert and doing a lot of fun stuff
there from late night Friday streams. So follow me there, Mary, what
about you usual twitch? I'm on there. I stream every Monday, streaming
lots of indie games as per the USU and that's it. You can find
me in m E. R Y kish on all the stuff I post on
Instagram about my weird travels to see my sister and other places. We'll be
doing a lot of traveling, uh for twitch coming up. Actually, So
next week I'm going to Saint Jude. I'm really excited about that. I'll
be touring the facility and learning about, um, you know, all the
stuff that they do to heal children, which I think is really cool.
Where um, isn't it? It's in the uh damn it? Uh?
I should know this because I'm flying there next week. It's um uh no,
no, no, no, it's not New York. It's in a
state. Yeah, okay, but come back to me. It's no Nona.
We're gonna wait on this. Um. They have good barbecue, but
it's not in North Carolina. Its down Texas. It could be South Carolina,
Memphis, it's Memphis, Tennessee. I'm so glad that you got that
out of nothing, nothing, nothingecue. We just name every state. It's
my least of my barbecue plays, but it's still goods weird get it.
Tour Saint Jude, and I'm really excited about it. So if you're interested
in learning more about what Saint Jude does for the kids and how amazing they
are join me getting off of the airpie. But I don't know wo I
don't know. I should know where I am. My dad would be so
disappointed in me. He says that to me all the time. Anytime I'm
traveling for Worke'll be like, He'll be like what hotel are you staying in?
And like what city? And I'll be like, I don't know,
and he'll be like, how do you live? And I'll be like,
I don't know. I just look it up like on an app, like
when I'm on my way, like my phone tells me where to go.
I don't really think about it. My dad like ten days before a flight
will be have you check the status your flight? Yeah? My parents are
crazy about that. My mom will be like, you have to check in.
It's twenty four hours, and I'm like, it'll be okay. I
can check in, like eight hours before my flights will be just check in
right now, it's twenty four hours. Were free flight? Have you seen
the weather weather? I'm monitoring the storm. This cold friends coming in and
my messo the engines. No, it's fine, that's fine. People are
crazy old people, all right, let's spend an episode fifty three. We'll
be back in two weeks. Who on it? Dan said maybe eight,
oh, we could do a little sinker to Mayo. Maybe there we go.
That'll be that'll be fun. We listen some tootskis. Okay, everybody,
thanks for joining. We'll be back two weeks. Who appreciate it?
Bye Bye st