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Radio app podcast every single segment after
the show. Ten fifteen minutes out of

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the show, and we were awaiting
comedian TJ. Miller, who'll be calling

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in. He's playing at Hyenas Friday, December first, Saturday December second.

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I think he's gonna stand you up. No, I think he's on the

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ball. I bet he stands you
up. He's in the middle of a

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huge tour. Who would voluntarily take
time out of their day to talk to

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you or us three? That is? I mean, if you can talk

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to Danny. Yeah, I can
see that. I would love to talk

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to Danny. I mean a lot
of people want to ask me a lot

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of hot thoughts about the world.
Whenever t J. Miller calls in,

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just give him the opportunity to ask
you any questions he has for you,

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Kevin Turner, and make that the
whole base of the interview. Okay,

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maybe we can do that. Joining
us now in the free cut line.

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You can see him on his Gentle
Giant tour at Hyenas on Friday December first

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and Saturday, December second. It
is comedian TJ. Miller. Oh hello,

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oh thank you. The first thing
first, Katie, when have time

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you've got in our court? H? Well, I'm asexual, so never

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he claims to be asexual? Why
hell? And what? But he's also

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really horny. He has a serious
porn addiction. Yeah, but then that's

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not asexual. It's sort of he's
into the two D yeah, yeah,

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and nod to two d's you guys
are thinking about just two demand show,

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likes to see it on his screen, right, No, that doesn't make

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sense. But as with most things, he says words that he doesn't fully

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understand their definition. So I think
that's why he throws out asexual a lot.

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But he definitely doesn't get it.
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he's like, I'm a sexual B
really a deportent having a tough time not

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masturbating at work. D like that. I think all of us. Yeah,

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and that's why I believe in a
communist society. Oh, I don't

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know what it means. Yeah,
I have no no idea. I think

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it's that everybody has intercom. You
out today York City, New York City,

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at my spot, I just got
up and went right on the radio

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with you guys, which I like. And yeah, I just got back

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from being on tour in UH in
Minneapolis, which is really really fun,

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and yeah, I'm having a great
time with the tour. I'm excited for

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Dallas because we have some really good
friends that are there and I don't know

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if you guys have sort of older
friends who still really party and they are

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damn so we're gonna be excited to
go down there. And they are from

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Dallas and lived in Dallas for a
But I love that club, Hyenas.

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Have you guys been, Yeah,
yeah, that's haven't been. Yeah,

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it is really really a great club. It's just it's been around since you

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know, I don't even know,
but twenty thirty years, and it's just

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it's it's a perfect room for comedy
and it perfectly represents an eighties club because

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the green room is in the sound
boot and you know, you're just packed

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in there. You're in the back
helping people with drinks. That feels like

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I must, and then you go
on stage and just killaller room. Yeah,

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it's awesome though it's super intimate.
Are you traveling with any support?

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Are you just grabbing local dudes when
you go through these sounds. No,

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I travel with support. This actually
will be my friend. It's brilliant comedy

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in cash Levy and he and I
do a podcast together called Cashing In with

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TJ. Miller. Everybody should check
it out. He's the host. He

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has a tough time getting guests,
and so I've been the only on the

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show for seven years. But he's
an excellent he's an excellent, excellent comedian,

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and so he tours with me when
he is available. He's a headliner.

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I only tour with headliner and he's
a headliner. But We're also going

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to do podcasts while I'm there,
so we might do one live one that

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will be announced lator but these all
all sell out and there's such such that's

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so I wanted to get on early. You know, it's December first and

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second, who shows you to night? But it's going to be great,

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and we're hoping maybe to tell people
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early, who knows, maybe I'll
had a show, maybe not. Either

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way, get in there fast.
So yeah, I'm excited. It's fun

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to tour with friends and also people
that I can really you know, trust,

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to go and and kill. Absolutely. I haven't even told this story

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yet. So my buddy, who
I'm writing a movie with for Michael Bay

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it's actually another Christmas movie, is
an Office Christmas Party, but we're doing

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another Christmas movie. This time is
gonna be PG thirteen. So I won't

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be doing cocaine in this Christmas movie. Get this guy off the phone,

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I mean, yeah, right,
well, listen, I'll do a trailer.

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It won't be part of the content. I'm just kidding. I've never

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done cocaine this, yeah, never. KP's like, I've done a lot

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of cocaine, and he's like,
you're talking about Coca cola right Europe.

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It's why it is a hard time
masturbating. We think, yeah, well,

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you know what, he's drinking too
much coke and having a tough time

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keeping his hand on it all.
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to the club in Minneapolis, and
my buddy came with me. He's a

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musician and a writer. He wrote
a rock opera. He's one of the

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funniest people I've ever met, but
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and so I asked him to open
for me with some music. Is what

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I assumed, and he said okay, and then my features something went wrong,

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so he had to do a full
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said, that's fine, just play
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songs and then talk a little bit
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have a guitar, and I go, so, what are you doing?

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Are you doing harmonica stuff or what? And he said no. She took

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a helicopter the airport. He goes, no, I couldn't fit my my

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you know, my guitar with me. But I'll figure something out. I

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think I know what I'm gonna do. And I said what are you gonna

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do? And he's like, well, I'm some bittritt and I think I'll

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just do stand up And I was
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Like in my mind, I was
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talking about? Because he'd never done
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like me saying him saying, hey, do you want to come and do

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some music, like, you know, as a joke or whatever. That

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would be like me saying no,
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seriously play violin. There's the exact
same thing it's the exact same thing.

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It's like, well, you don't
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like, oh yeah, no no, but I'll just figure it out.

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I mean, I you know,
I've heard violin. That's how you learned

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the violin, DJ, you just
figure it out. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, that's right. You can't
learn it, no, just see enough

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of it. And so he went
and I thought, okay, well,

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and I told him, I was
like, this, give you the worst

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idea you've ever had in your life. And I was like, and it'll

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really screw my situation up. I
love that you were trying to discourage him.

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That's great. Oh dude. If
he was anybody else, I would

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have gone, no, that would
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except know and buy a guitar right
now and then do that. But he

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is a comic. He's a comedic
guy. And so what I decided was,

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I thought, you know what I'm
going to I'm going to let him

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sort of hang himself so that he
knows. And then I got an opener

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who could actually do like a strong
fifteen or twenty, and so I thought,

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I it's going to let him hang
himself up there, so that he

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knows that you can't just figure it
out and do stand up and these are

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sold out crowds, you know,
is the other part of this. So

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what we did was it's four shows. The first show we introduced him as

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having all this is his first time
during a stand up, which is true,

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and so he got up there.
He's really funny guy. So he

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did pretty well. You know,
people are clapping and laughing, but you

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had his energy of like, this
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sort of the audience's energy of oh, we got to support him, you

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know. So he got off stage
and then I was like, oh,

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great, now he's going to be
like it's it's easy whatever, you know,

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anyone can do it. He just
got to kind of be airrogant and

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just get up there. And then
the second show, which is late Friday,

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which is the very like a drug
drug show and often disruptive. Then

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he got up there and it did
not go as well. I mean it's

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like you could feel him on stage
and be like, well, what happened?

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I thought? We just did it? And then like the last show,

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it's every show is like that.
It's like no Jay, It's a

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little bit different each show. So
then he got up stage then and I

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also had a really terrible set.
I mean, you know, the audience

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had a great time, but I
did not like my set after him,

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And that's because the audience was like, why does this guy in the middle,

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Why is he clearly not a professional
comedian? That's what he came off

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at. Then Saturday we came in
and so what I told him to do

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was I said, look, and
the second show I was like, instead

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of fifteen, why don't you do
work closer to ten, ten to twelve.

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And then on Saturday I said,
this needs to be no longer than

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ten, and then on the last
show I told him it needs to be

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five minutes. So I made him
compact and edit the thing real time,

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and during the day on Saturday he
was like, hey, somebody else doing

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to guess that? Right on the
second show tonight, I go, yeah,

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he goes, well, you know, I don't have to get up

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like maybe just have heard of it. And then I was like, son

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of a gun, now I'm going
to turn this through, you see.

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And so I made him do the
Sattery Show and he opened the Saty Show

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with a bit that like he thought
was strong about a rogue, you know,

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a rogue pubic hair starting to grow
from his forearm, which I don't

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think it's really masterful. Sort of
we we see k Chappelle level stuff,

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But that joke bomb for a show. And when when something bombs, you

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know, when somebody's really bombing on
stage, it's very uncomfortable because there's no

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laugh there's just people watching you like
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there. And I'll tell you what, bombing is tough, but when you

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bomb a thirty second or minute long
bit in front of sold out like three

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hundred people is a terrible experience.
And so I just saw him up there

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starting to sweat and freak out,
and then luckily his next bit did really

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well. But then after that that
show, he was like, I don't

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know. I mean, I don't
have to do this. I said,

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you know what you want? You
just thought you could stand up and figure

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out, So you got to do. It's a job, Jay, it's

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a job. So you don't get
to pick and choose what fun shows you

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want to do. And he was
like okay, and then like how you

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And He's like that was really an
amazing experience. Wow, what a journey

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yeah, I don't think I'll ever
do it yet. Yeah, exactly.

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So we I kind of in one
weekend showed him that what I do is

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not really easy. Because you guys
know this, A lot of people.

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I think, you tell me,
Kat, I'm really interested in if you're

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going to understand these words. If
you think he won't, but you he

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won't, you know. But I
think a lot of people think they can

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do radio. So I got I'll
just get on you guys, just talk,

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that's all you do. You you
like that about radio because I've done

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so much radio that I know that
is ucate. It takes incredible skill and

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unmoch nobody can do it, don't
you guys have people as there. I

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could get on there. Yeah,
for sure. Most people think. My

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mom definitely thinks that we do nothing
and just kind of crack some jokes and

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call it a day at ten am
after do in the morning show every time.

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But I don't know. It's right
on the edge. But yes,

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I agree, four hours every day, twenty hours a week. That's a

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lot of dead air to fill.
And you probably TJ. Miller, thank

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you for again for joining us today. We'll plugger performance in just a second.

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But it's probably very similar because I've
had experiences where you've had a listener

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that wants to come up and do
a segment or something like that, and

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this is way back in the day, and their eyes are so wide and

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they're excited, and they issue their
first line that they've been thinking about and

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preparing it, and then you try
to follow up with them and it's just

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blank stares and you you end up
you come in there loaded, and you

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realize that doing a twenty minute segment
is a lot longer than you think it

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is when you first get into it, much like your boy Jay bombing after

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his long setup joke, and the
expectation is this is going to kill and

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when it doesn't, what's your backup
plan? Yeah, that's that's a great

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point. And I also think you
guys do the thing you said twenty hours

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a week, and I love to
love that. Your mother is like,

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and then you're done working at ten
am, Yeah, and that'd be nice

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to have your entire day and you're
like, I went to bed at four

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thirty pm, Okay, yeah,
five in the morning. In the first

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hour is just me being like,
why I make this joy, why I

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go into this location? And then
you kind of finally get through it.

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But I think it's people kind of
just think that talking on a microphone is

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so easy or it'll come so easily. And the harder thing about radio is

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that you can't hear the laugh ever, so you could be bombing. We

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could be bombing right now. People
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oh golly, learn the violin,
TJ. Why are you even talking

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to this about? But I,
you know, I think that it's just

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it's funny because what you guys do
and what I do seems so extemporaneous.

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It seems just so easy, organic, whatever. And I've been on the

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radio and seen such awkward moments or
things at work, and then a great

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DJ, just a great radio personality
that won't even matter, that's just something

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to be talked about. Whoa that
was this? And then just scooping right

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back into traffic and weather or going. And then the greatest genius of what

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you guys do is these liners or
when you sort of read with it,

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add or the sponsor, the sort
of hawking, and you kind of make

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it funny, make it sound organic, and nobody is like irritated by it.

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They're just like oh okay, I'll
hear about this from one of my

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favorite people. Could you guys also
like me, make a money, make

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your living. Being someone that everybody
lists would be friends with, Like everybody

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that likes us is like a but
we'd have a good time at the bar,

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you know, or if he came
up for a game day like that

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would be really really fun. And
so that's something too. It's like to

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keep that charisma up all the time. It's not easy. It's a job,

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you know, And so I think
that's really interesting that you said that

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that you'll get a viewer to do
a segment, or even people who call

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in sometimes like they're so ready to
to call a long time caller, you

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know, first time. Let's just
like okay, here we go, let's

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do what it's all about. And
then they get on. You're like,

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okay, Dale from Grand Rapids,
You're on. What's on? They're like,

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I love you got that man?
It's like, okay, what do

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you do? I mean like car
wow, yeah, yeah exactly. But

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they just suddenly they're on the radio
and they can't believe, like okay,

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I'm on, what do I do? So it's that deer in the headlights

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thing. So that was good.
So I guess it's the thing. Is

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the PSA to tell everyone do not
try stand up. You won't be able

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to. You're a dream crusher TV. You can see me. You can

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see me. The uh what I'm
doing is real radio step since you can

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see me, to stand out,
because you should encourage me. On December

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first and second, Hyenas Comedy Club
right next to the arc light. I

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think there's a pokey bowl around there, all right, vape shop as well.

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Do you know what you know what? Poke is absolutely some of my

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favorite chicken Kevin Jesus Christ. Okay, that's any thinks it is. I

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want to be Okay, Okay,
you can go to Hyenas, get a

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nice poke bowl and then TJ you
walk right to the shop next door and

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get your check cashed from Hyenas.
Right, Yeah, I'll do that.

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Their problem this segment, I got
a oh sorry. So this is a

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segment's also brought to you by it
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Metroplex and next month our movie of
the Month. We've decided it's not final,

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we're waiting to see, but we've
asked it to do office Christmas Party

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as our big event with the rosters
to come watch it. Have we made

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a good decision? TJ. Absolutely, especially if you like cocaine. I

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saw it and that's all I remember
is cocaine and the fan. Right,

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Cocaine gets stuck in a fan and
I think they're trying to make it look

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like it's snowing. We've said cocaine
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I. I think it's a great
movie. And it's so fun to watch

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families come up to me and say, oh, our kids looking how to

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treat your drag in? Her favorite
is big here a stick? And we

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love how that. We love off
It's Christmas Party. The yeah, we

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were to show a teenager Deadpool.
We love off It's Christmas Party. We

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watch it every year and I'm like, you watch it with your twin thirteen

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year old girls and they're like no, no, no, yeah, yeah,

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we have. It's fun for the
whole family, especially if you're a

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bad parent. Modern gentle parenting.
How's uh, how's Bateman has a big

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arrested development fan? How's how's he
to work with? And? Oh,

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he's really incredible And what's interesting about
him is that he can do such.

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I mean, this is why we
love the rest development. He can do

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the tiniest, most subtle sort of
comedic turn and they're really funny. And

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the coolest thing I saw was he
said, Okay, did you get the

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line? I think it's like,
he goes, you're sure about that?

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It's in the opening in my eyes? You sure about that? You sure

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about that? And they say yeah, we got and he goes, all

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right, let me just do a
like a run of them, and everyone's

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like okay, and they just rolled
on him and he did you sure about

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that? He did it about I
don't know twelve or fifteen different ways,

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and all of them were funny,
and they were barely different. They were

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really, really, really minutely different. And so he's just a master.

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He's a master of dry nuance.
Man. Yeah, you know what nuance

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means. Right, it will take
us ten minutes. He's looking absolutely.

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I love when people are real direct
with me that old you have an old

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non and you got to get rid
of it. Jesus got what it is.

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You won't hear that? Yes,
you will be hand closed with it.

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I bookend the whole set with something
even my father would be like Tjman

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you leave the rep I think,
uh, I think that he's you don't

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think it's such a funny dude.
But guys like him and Aniston these different

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types of movies. Starts right,
and so I have a tough time I'm

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understanding or relating to guys like Baban
and Anson that are so like rigid is

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the wrong word, so regimented.
Like he gets up every morning, I

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don't know, at five or something
and runs five miles or a mile,

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and then Jennifer Aniston is like hyper
aware of what she's eating and how much

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water she's drinking and exactly what vegetables
she's having. And then I kind of

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really sometimes will be like I'm not
gonna have a third piece of pizza an

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adult, and then to celebrate,
I'll get ice cream. So it's like,

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I personally see no difference in the
levels of discipline between the three of

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you like that, so it's interesting
to kind of talk to them. And

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it's like Bateman doesn't eat dinner ever, which is something that I do when

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I'm not like when I'm cutting away
for a role. But he definitely he

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go, I go, do you
let me get you like a green Machia

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tea latte thing from Starbucks. They're
going, He's like, yeah, sure,

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and then they brought it to us
and he came to me afterwards.

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It was like one of those whips
to me, Starbucks, you a thing

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and he is really eating sugar if
he came to you after, he goes,

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what is that thing that you got
to be giving? You gave me?

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And I was like, that was
the Macha latte swirl thing or whatever.

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That wasn't a latte, that was
a That was a milkshake, TJ.

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That was a milkshake, all right, And I go, oh,

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I'm sorry. Oh yeah, it
does have sugar in it. I think,

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yeah, I'm sorry because it has
a lot of sugar. It was

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a milkshake. And I go,
okay, well, I'm sorry you didn't

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have to have Did you eat it? He goes, of course I ate

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it, your golt stake. It's
like it's sugar. Fine. Of course.

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I was gon' think and all I
want to do is get a second

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one. It's really funny. It's
like with him, I gave him like

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a sugar eat Starbucks drake, and
it was like he had gotten drugs.

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It's like I had given him cocaine. Well, you didn't have to do

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that. Yes, I did all
of the cocaine, and I want more

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cocaine right now. He comes across
like that guy that only smokes when he

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drinks, and then you hang out
with him and he's like rifled through your

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entire pack by the end of the
night. Yeah, that's right. And

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also he's sober. And so one
of the things too, is that you

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know, he's got that kind of
discipline the words you used before, he's

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got the kind of discipline about everything
else. And so I kind of screwed

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him over with the with the I
don't need sugar at all things. So

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you know, it's to each sort
of movie star it sound, but I

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feel like it's it's really fun to
be around those people because they're so different.

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And then like Christian Stewart, it's
kind of her whole other sort of

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own thing that's sort of discipline and
then very not disciplined of times. And

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I prefer that. I prefer people
that are allow themselves to get kind of

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crazy and have fun and go out
and that type of thing. But she's

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also younger, she's like younger than
I am. But it's strange to be

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around these people because like, I'm
a comic. I started as a stand

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up comedian as an improviser also,
and so it's fun to sort of live

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in that world when I'm not really
an actor, Like that's not my identity,

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I don't think, but that's how
most people know me. And so

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it's really fun when people see me
and they come and I see the show

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and they go cheeze that. You
know, I love you from moving to

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television, but you're actually pretty funny. And I'm like, well, you

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don't have to say actually or pretty. You can just say I'm funny.

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But it's people kind of realizing like, whoa have you? Like have you

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done this before? Yeah? Yeah, for like twenty years. Well,

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teach, we want to come and
see me stand up. And it's a

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lot of improvisation, a lot of
interacting with the audience, and a lot

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of just talking about Dallas and what
it's all about. Hell yeah, we

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look forward to that Friday, December
one and Saturday December second at the Great

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Hyenas. Go get your tickets everyone
to see TJ. Miller. Thank you

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so much for your time this morning, TJ. We appreciate it. Man

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thanks for having me on Kat.
I'm excited for when you find out what

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a textual mean one of these days, one of these days. Then after

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you find that out, you can
realize you're not you're non binary. Thanks

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guys, Bye DJ here he goes
bye TJA. All right, TJ Miller,

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that was great. We're super late, so let's get to the hot

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