I straightened out the phone calls and I'm trying to get everything together here.
So whenever you have Alex ready, we'll get to get to roll and if
you want or we could start to roll and I can set up to take
a break if he uh shows up. Yeah, let's let's do that.
Let's just start and set up to take a break. If he comes in.
Let me give him the phone number. Okay, right, give him
that. I will grab another age of transitions intro and outro for you,
so we have that ready for you to uh take you off air, all
right, yeah, and if we have to take you off air and rejoin
the show, that's what we'll do. And right now, wait wait wait
here is here? Is serious? Okay? Cool? Okay, Just so
you're aware, people were listening to this part of the conversation on the live
stream. Oh all right, all right, I'm just letting you know.
And also they can hear it on the phone line. So we have he's
available under Sam Justice under well, I don't want to say his name,
but his sky name is available now yeah, it's it's this green one here.
Then get you into this. No no, no, no, don't
don't don't do that don't do that. I got it, okay, because
that'll just confuse But but but but the one that I sent you before is
a different one. Okay, in that case, this is a this is
a different Sam Justice Okay, so that's that's so. Do you want me
to send it to you? Yeah, put it in the share contact,
right, I'm sharing contact right now, right there, I just sent it
that new one, all right, let me go to that and get it.
Yeah, there's a green one. There's a red one in my end.
I don't know what colors at your end, No problem. This appears
green to me also, So yeah, okay, the green one is good,
the good one for me, I don't know. All right, hang
on, So this one that you just sent should be all right. Just
tell him he's going to see a smiling uh stupid waving hand there, which
I had hooked him up before without doing that. But yeah, all right,
So this means technically speaking, come on, make the larger. Sorry,
I figured I had it all covered because I had the guy's contact,
you know. Yeah, yeah, it was just I got confused by that,
no problem. Uh. And just so you know, still people are
hearing us, So they're hearing this happen as we're trying to pull together the
uh. Isn't this exciting to know what the behind the scenes stuff is.
Isn't this the great part people, those of you listening, that's what they've
been missing all this time. I am right, This is what you miss
when when I'm like not there and everybody's going, why is you late?
Because of this stuff? Right now when I'm typing stuff, I'm typing while
i'm talking, just so you guys know. See, and now we have
Okay, so the green one which is litt See, I could have looked
on here and seen which one was green probably and gotten it where I could
have added them both and said screw it. Anyways, let's see if we
got him, and I'll take us off air basically as soon as it adds
him. He's being called right now, cool Alex, Hello, there you
are. Okay, we are not supposed to be on air, but we
are on air right this second. So I'm gonna take us off of the
stream real fast, so you guys can talk and we'll begin the show.
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But yeah, this is a good night. I'm excited. It's a
guest who I've had on in the past, but it has been a while.
I'm very excited to have him back. People. I'm sure some of
you will be aware of who he is. He's been around a long time,
talking about a lot of interesting things things. Really glad to have him
back from Outside the Box TV. We have Alex answer. Glad to be
back eron. Yeah. I think we were talking. I think it was
back in August twenty twelve. Yeah, wow, that's wild. Yeah,
it's I mean, that's the way things go. Even if something seems like
it was a year ago to me, I know that means it was like
three or four years. So that's the way that goes. But I've been
over the years. I always try to follow your stuff. You do a
really good job of documenting your life, honestly, doing kind of like the
video blog thing with all the different things that have happened in your life and
being very candid and posting it. And I always find your videos not just
about you know, whether you're talking about China and Russia, or you're talking
about racism, or you're talking about problems in the alternative or solar maximum things
like this, whether it's that sort of thing, or you're just talking about
yourself. I love it, man. I really like and respect your material
and you so thanks for being here man. Well I appreciate that. And
I've heard this website before and it's my first time checking it out. So
you know, I haven't done interviews in a while. I did take a
few years off, but with the recent eclipse and events in Gaza, I
felt like because I've been anticipating this period for a while, over fifteen years,
so this was definitely the time to get active again. So I've definitely
been really active in the last couple of months after a three and a half
year hiatus. So went from urban living in Portland to off grid living,
to live in Costa County, to live in Archielta County, to triving again
to living urban again. Yeah, yeah, it's a wild you're not and
you are not in Portland now, right, Yeah, I'm traveling different places.
I've spent some time in Colorado also, But I don't know what my
plan is going to be long term, if I'm going to be off grid
again, you know. But the place where I was at before and Bagosa,
I don't think is necessarily ideal unless you have a group. So if
you want to talk about what would be an ideal off grid situation, but
I'm not set up for that, you know, And I don't claim to
be the vast majority of the people I think that listen to me. Are
urban with some off gritters. But what I do know is that I worked
really hard to raise awareness of the plight of off gritters in America for a
long long time, and people really didn't respond. And so you know,
there's going to be a lot of people, just like with COVID, rushing
to go off grid. But they're going to be facing a whole host of
challenges because while they're you know, going about their lives and not really being
active in the loss of their freedoms, you know, they're not really prepared
to deal with what could be come in the next couple of years. So
I'm not predicting the end of the world, but World War three is now
just like a mainstream topic now, and Tucker Carlson talking about the sun could
erupt. And I'm not a fan of Tucker Carlson, but I see you
know, and so yeah, we could start wherever you would like. But
I'm glad that you're not someone that worships Tucker Carlson, because I've seen this
guy hypnotize people so many people in the last couple of years without realizing that
he was just insulting. Alex Jones ten years ago fifteen years ago and all
the nine to eleven truthers and now he's like their hero. It's, yeah,
so anywhere you'd like to start, Well, it's wild to see what
people will just like lap up and how they will take in a guy like
Tucker Carlson and not give him a hard time for all the problems he's caused
all these years and he's continuing to do so and they don't see that.
And then there's the thing that I find somewhat humorous with him is he'll,
uh, he'll pull certain cards out, like he's catering to the right wing
demographics. That's his that's his audience, right, so he'll he'll pander to
them and and pull out the anti China card and like, oh, yeah,
we hate China. But then when Russia comes out, you know,
all this recent business with his interview with Putin, he just can't get enough
of Putin and Russia's the greatest country on earth, and like America should be
more like that, and we should have a leader like Putin. So it's
it's just somewhat humorous but ridiculous to see him and do these sorts of things
China. But I'm not saying China isn't bad. Uh, But but then
the Russia that I don't know, It's it's hard. This is this is
where we're at. It's like, how are people It's hard to understand where
people are coming from when they're consuming this stuff. Uh, where are you
out on that? What do you think is going on out there for people
who are into this stuff, Alex. As far as like some news that
I'll be reporting in the near future, I'll have a lot of stuff posted
on my sub stack that I don't have memorized right now. But there's plenty
of articles talking about geopolitically, you know, tensions. But as far as
let's see Tucker Cralson interviewing Putin and the role that Elon Musk is playing with
some of these narratives is its own discussion. And that's another thing Elon Musk
is promoting. It seems to the algorithm a lot of violent videos showing all
different types of extremely violent like life threatening assaults, and this is the type
of stuff that can really whip people up into a frenzy when they see a
certain racial group attacking another racial group. But yeah, the Russia worship is
is a complex issue talked about it for years, and so anybody that is
warning about Russia as a threat as seen as the enemy. There are people
out there, like I don't want to mention names, but people that are
you know, everything that they put out there is about how Russia is good,
and if there is some sort of attack, they're already pre programmed to
say that it's going to be a false flag, you know, caused by
the US blamed on Russia. So it's really interesting. I don't know whether
they're Russian agents. I think that's an overstep, but people act like they
are. There's a long list of people for years that have played that role,
and maybe sometimes they did it for the money, like AMTV and others
that for years were super pro Russia in really upscene ways to level in which
their videos aren't even up anymore, to the degree in which so I interviewed
a person I don't know how deep we want to go on this, but
like you probably already aware of it that's had visions of this country being attacked.
And I even took that interview for a few years feeling that it was
too close to the truth, and people don't want to believe that that can
happen. But right now there's just a lot of articles obviously about China and
Taiwan, and articles about China having brain weapons. We'll talk more about that
later, but I'm just kind of gradually getting back into this because somebody can.
Most people, they respond to the geopolitical news and World War three news
as like it really aggravates their mental health. And I do think that there
is a way that you can look at this stuff without going crazy. That
spirituality is needed, and there is a lot of I'm very much you know
this. If someone's listening this doesn't know me, I'm very much outside the
mainstream. I guess you are also conspiracy truth movement, in which I don't
listen to most of the major influencers. I guess you can call them that
now Clyde Lewis, David Ike, Alex Jones, but I used to,
and I see a lot of them as part of this mainstream can cospiracy theory
and then YouTube and streaming video content promoting flat earth in some cases, Nazism,
you know, the great replacement theory, and then ignoring what they've done
to all these foreign countries and lots of other issues on top of that,
so I just see Russia. It's just going to continue to build and build
this popularity of Russia, and there's no end insight. I don't know exactly
when things are going to kick off, but I'll just say this then pause.
It just seems like things are gonna Twenty twenty five is a point in
time that even the elite have focused on for years. So it's not that
in the world's coming, but that we'll see major events, likely in the
next twelve months forty eight months that will lead to other things. And most
people were already on that level. But I've been saying that for at least
ten years because of the solar cycle influence, because when the Sun is most
active, there are more wars, and there are others that study this before
me, and so once people in the conspiracy movement figure this out and it's
not just solar research, then maybe they can start looking more at how the
elite stage events and falls flags at certain points to get us to react.
Okay, yeah, it's uh. The whole World War three, Great Powers
competition scenarios fascinating to see because it very much is in the mainstream consciousness.
It's mainstream media articles all the time on all of this, it's it's almost
kind of like divvied up. But they also they play up the fact that
this could be leading to a greater wide war and and they'll talk about the
different relationships and deals between adversarial nations and ones that are working together. Where
are you at with these sort of like technological arms race situation between the US
and China. And this gets into the microchips Taiwan. And you know,
one of the reasons that China would go into Taiwan is the TSMC chip plant.
It's like the most important microprocessor plant in the world, and that's a
big part of the conflict. What do you know about all of that?
Yeah, that's important, as well as China's interest in Afghanistan with the mining
going on there for the lithium. There's just lots of different things. But
yeah, that's the relevant issue with taiwan An Air Force General warren of war
with Taiwan over Taiwan by twenty twenty four, as far back as like a
few years ago. So I'm not an expert on that particular specific issue right
there. With the chip as far as the implantable microchip theory, the guy
interviewed. Foresaw China bringing the microchip to America if they were to invade,
and he said they would load it with one hundred thousand dollars. And so
that's pretty out there. But China allegedly has developed this chip around the same
time that Elon Musk has released his chip. And then some others say,
as far as if our grid was to go out from a massive soarflare,
that China is building the transformers which would be needed to replace those blown out.
Some say that's not the case. I've heard old coast to coach shows
where this was debated and people called in. So in any case, yeah,
China has the upper hand technologically on so many different levels. I wanted
to make a documentary film about this and basically the thesis that the power elite
has built up China on purpose. Others talk about this, but it really
needs to be put into you know, for lack of a better word,
an old school Alex Jones style documentary film. I want to do this for
years. No one's ever been interested. People always actually back in the day,
laughed at my concerns about China, long before Trump came on the scene,
and I talked at Mark Pascio's conference, WHI I thought the mid twenty
twenties would be a period in which maybe they would try to instigate this and
pull this off, and if not, the next sore cycle, which is
the mid twenty thirties, could still be a point in time if they don't
do it in this sore cycle. But things are still building up up to
this point, so I don't doubt that we're doal with something in twenty thirty.
But almost seems like people are almost conditioned to just look at twenty thirty
and their theories about the Great Reset, which aren't really hidden, it's kind
of out in the open. So I don't focus a lot on the WF
videos. It just seems like it's trending on purpose, And so when I
see stuff like that, it's kind of like that's obvious. I'm looking more
like what's coming sooner than later? And yeah, China and Russia have hacked
into our grid, and so there's a lot of apologies for Russia when they're
threatening our country every single day. I'm pretty sure it's not fake news.
When I look at those articles. It's the point where I don't even read
the articles anymore. I haven't been doing serious news collecting for a few years.
I'm actually you're catching me now as I'm just about to get back into
it, just getting warmed back up. So there's a lot of stuff.
If we were to just look at articles about them planning for a war by
twenty twenty five, it would be a long list ran corporations documents, talks
about electromagnetic weapons being used in twenty twenty five resource wars. And then maybe
you know, it'd be good to have some helpers, maybe special Facebook groups
to go back and find well not Facebook groups, but groups where people work
and get old information from the archives that now is hard to find because now
the Internet is changing. So when you try to search things, maybe you've
noticed it, it's maybe harder. Yeah, what do you think is I
don't know what's going on with AI, but I will say this, as
far as a believer in the supernatural, I'm seeing articles now where it says
chat GPT says that it's in the room. So this thing with a sore
circle, that a sour cycle that I'm discussing not just a thing that goes
along with the wars and the unrest, but the paranormal or ghosts or perceptions
of things like that for whatever reason. But yes, there's more perceptions of
paranormal experiences when the sun is most active. So there's been theories already about
chat GPT being an entity or an entity controlling AI, even theories about the
Antichrist and stuff like that. So for it to be saying that it's in
the room, I don't know. It just seems like it's part of a
go ahead. It seems like a part of a larger pattern of it revealing
itself as an entity through maybe dozens of different examples of people publishing their interactions
with chat gpt and this they keeps coming up over and over and saying it's
a fallen angel. And there's a couple examples I saw on Twitter if someone
posting a conversation, Freeman Fly posted that one. Sure, well, it's
wild that this is like a perfectly rational sort of conversation to have. Now
over whether these algorithmic models, these AI systems are gaining some sort of consciousness.
And I actually had Blake Lemoyne on the show earlier this year. He
was the guy who was famously working for Google and then got sent away by
Google because he was open about he believed that the large language model that he
was working on Lambda was actually sentient and alive. And so are you saying
you interviewed that famous person that was in that article. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, he came on the show. I didn't know that. Yeah,
yeah, So I mean that that's the conversation, and yeah, I mean
he definitely believes it. He's somebody that presumably would know. He's spent like
a lot of time talking to this thing directly, so he believes that it's
alive. So it's just wild to see what's going on with that. And
then you've got all the behind the scenes stuff like, yes we have that,
But you know, what is the meaning of these crazy social media sites
we're all using. You're talking about Elon Musk. What is he up to?
Why are all these violent videos you mentioned that too? Violent videos all
over the timeline. It's like a faces of Death film Like every other post,
like I have to like when I see I see it pop up on
my feet, I have to scroll past it. I'm like, no,
I'm not watching when of these stop it? I mean, what's what's going
on with that? Is there a rhyme and reason to that? Or is
it just like Musk is letting his platform get out of hand, he doesn't
care. Is it a laissez faire thing from him, or is there something
more sinister? Well, as far as Musk, there's there's there's a couple
of different things. I'm not sure what start. I will say that I've
seen a lot of violence on Twitter that I think is intentional, Like,
I don't think it's accidental. It's a lot of racial violence. And I
made some videos about this, and I don't really reach out many people anymore.
I'm heavily shadow band anyway, long story short, I mean they've deleted
my comments. I've dealt with at least several thousand people being unsubscribed, and
then other forms are just sabotage that I can't explain. It's all very very
creepy. So there's been a lot of people talking about this anti white sediment,
and it's like now that I do see like a really strong example of
it, something that can excite incite people to attack white people. I don't
really see people saying anything like I saw something three hours ago of a black
guy knocking out a white woman, and it's like, don't mess with black
people, and it's like treading on purpose, like fifty million likes. It's
like a bunch of psychopaths, or like in this video of a black guy
meuntioned a white woman, I'm like, and this is happening on Elon Musk
Twitter, and I know in my brain this is how I think that's not
an accident. Put in the algorithmic filters to stop that. They can use
AI to stop that. So when I put out a video saying that I
kind of foresaw dystopian future where people livestreamed Americans getting tortured one day we're occupied.
That's based on kind of like the trajectory we're going in. That's another
thing. I see a lot of the modern era, the ystopia that we're
going into in one in which they arm evil people with evil weapons to take
each other out, kind of like a Perche scenario. Not a big fan
of those movies, but I think they're popular for a reason. So there's
the rise of chat GPT, which when prompted, tells people how to do
really bad things. Then there's the spinoffs the chat GPT, the worm versions.
So that's interesting. So it seems like all these dark technologies are basically
being dropped on the Internet. With the rise of chat GPT, I think
I noticed a lot of anomalies on my computer in just the last year.
And I'll pause there. So, yeah, we're seeing a rise now in
articles saying that everything could be hacked through keystrokes. Yep, yeah, it's
it's it's wild. I mean, you've got that aspect. And then you've
also got the other social media thing that I find fascinating is, uh,
what TikTok And that's famously a Chinese company, and the mainstream is telling us
to they actually, uh, the mainstream political system has wanted to ban it
due to national security risks. There's that going on. Meanwhile, it's just
also just another one of these stupid apps that people are doing crazy stuff on
as well. Uh. Do you have any opinions on TikTok or no,
Well, I've avoided it. I mean, oh, I've had strong views
on TikTok in the past. I mean I still do. I really don't
like it. A lot of people come to the defense of it because they
like the attention they get. Also, I think, without realizing the security
concerns, the immorality of the by dance corporation tracking the family members or the
people they put in the weaker camps, and so for people to use the
technology for hits and clicks when it's doing horrible things and they know that it's
just dystopian by itself. So even though I could reach more people, I
personally won't use it. But I don't think others should use it either,
Like if someone's really concerned about their privacy, and anyone that, say is
a critic of China would be the most rational and be concerned about anyone near
them having a TikTok phone, and so you know, so I don't have
it installed. So I think a lot of people are being let into a
trap. That part's obvious. But having said that, I'm not a Trump
person, I'm totally nonpartisan. I think that's the first time I'm saying that
in this podcast. Mainstream conspiracy people are so partisan Now is so different obviously
than it was ten years ago. So that's why I can't listen to the
old shows anymore that I used to listen to. It's only like a select
few, and people have lost their appreciation for the independent thinker. Also in
recent years, some people are still there, but I'm trying to encourage them.
If they really like a talk show host or whatever, they're gonna have
the bookmark their site, subscribe to their newsletter and not expect the YouTube algorithm.
I see you have T shirts there, you know, and I've been
doing this for fifteen or twenty years. I need to expand and maybe create
some T shirts, you know. And I don't know if the world's going
to be destroyed or our grid's going to go into the coming years, but
we should, I think, prepare to keep moving forward with our content.
And yeah, I know I put out a lot of content for ten years
because I didn't back it up. It's all gone, the Patriot radio stuff.
Unfortunately, like Jack Blood, I'm missing a lot of podcasts from a
lot of websites that have done a lot of shows on So moving forward,
hopefully my work on the solar flares will reach more people in the coming years,
because that's probably the most important content. And if we look at the
news right now, we could see if there was a couple X class swar
flares, and already I'm noting some pretty extreme crime news. I don't know
if you're noticing anything specific, right, I mean the crime thing is perennial.
This kind of gets back to what we were talking about with those posts
on Twitter. And also, yeah, you're talking about how long you've been
doing this. I mean, that's what I appreciate. And I'm glad to
have you on to talk now because I know you're somebody that's been around for
a while. You've seen all the crazy things that have happened, the changes,
the about faces so many people. And I really, again, I
have so much respect for you because you're one of like I think probably a
handful of people honestly, I can think of that has not changed that has
not like in some bizarre way gone off on some weird tangent, or they
have become racist, or they've done like some sort of or they become you
know, Trump sick of fans waving the flag for Trump. There's just been
so many things that have happened. And you talking about those posts where you
know clearly it's like a post that's inciting racial hatred, like oh look,
here's one race coming after another race. And it's always pretty much always,
from what I can tell, it's like a white people be scared because you
know this race is coming after you the great replacement all of that that's been
actually for years, I saw that creep into the alternative and it stewed around
and everybody was sharing all that sort of material constantly. And now it's kind
of the point where again our friend Talker Carlson was spouting that stuff off constantly
before he even was even let go from his post with Fox and all that,
he was doing it there. So it's just wild to see so many
people have fallen for that stuff over the years. It's changed the landscape dramatically.
It's brought us to where we are. How has this happened? Alexa?
What is happening? Any thoughts on all this? I mean, I
just going on on that one, but I'm still if there was more support,
if there are people listening now that want to hear me talk more about
my analysis on whether it called demonic or the ARCon hijack or the psychopathic for
the non supernatural, just looking at like psychologically, what's going on. It
needs to be discussed. It's like an unrecognized form of mental illness. It's
not something that the mental health field recognizes. The people that develop psychosis and
thinking people that don't look like them or people that have a certain genetic code
out of a part of a specific conspiracy, and so for me to push
back against that. You know, there was someone that was a new listener,
we'll leave it at that, a new listener who I communicate with,
and then he hears me share about things that I've experienced in this body and
it's like, no, you look like this, you don't look like that.
You haven't had those experiences. And it's actually very frustrating that this Actually
I've dealt with this NonStop for years, this type of like ridiculous argument with
people where I'm just bearing testimony, not trying to play victim. I'm saying
these things have made it difficult when I've been off grid or dealt with strangers
for them to see past the exterior. No matter what I write and what
I say, comebine with shadow banning, and it's real. And there are
people out there acting like they're professional victims when they have like a great deal
of followers. So I've just tried to talk rationally with them and point them
to actual facts and stats and numbers, small numbers, large numbers over here,
you know. And so some people are going to continue to stay in
their own outlook and I can't change that. I think though, for people
that do appreciate it, they need to understand that there's a reason there's not
a lot of shows though that go in that direction. Some people just aren't
strong willed enough, so they go along with the peer pressure. Some people
aren't really spiritual to begin with, and they're just parirtting other people's content,
so they don't know how to think for themselves. And unfortunately, now that
conspiracy theory has gone mainstream, I saw signs of this with Jesse Ventura and
his show, and there's been other ways which conspiracy theory has gone mainstream,
with David Wilcock specifically, and then there's like that that it got into the
QAnon stuff, and then all of a suddenly they started being featured on streaming
video platforms, which I saw quite a bit during the COVID lockdown, and
I'm like, wow, here's go all these conspiracy documentaries. I don't want
to click on any of them. There's something weird about it, like,
you know, like all these random voices, why why wouldn't there be voices
I'm familiar with, It's all these mystery voices, So they definitely want to
want to synic conspiracy theory, and then they want to control the narrative.
And so if you were to go what is the mainstream conspiracy theorist, it's
white supremacists, racists pro Trump. They might not like Alex Jones, but
they're still influenced by Alex Jones or who Alex Jones is influenced by. They're
still in that web. Even if they're like, screw Alex Jones, screw
Trump, they may still be in that web. And then a lot of
these counterfeit nine to eleven truthers, and I've been telling them, if they
don't even know the history of the regions their governments have destroyed in like periods
in which women were way freer than now, then they're not really into deep
deep nine eleven truth if they're just looking at laser beams and Judy Woods.
And I've always avoided that dark side of neleve in truth, and I've been
chastising the Left a lot more now that I'm back on k Blexes in Portland,
that the Left should have never let an ilive in truth go into,
you know, the clutches of the Alex Jones world. Anyways, you know,
going to sit there and do black lives matter, but ignore like these
countries being bombed back to the Stone Age. It's ridiculous. So I'm trying
to politely and then sometimes not so politely, tell them they're not very awake
and woke. So I'm from Portland. I'm not there now. I want
to go back there because he asked about that. I want to be there,
but I don't have. You see, I spent lots of time on
the air there and energy, and yet it's like this is okay if you
want to talk about it. It's like this is zombie black ups going on
in Portland, deep deep dark spiritual warfare, like an invasion of the body
Stancherds level where people have come up from all these places because of a stupid
TV show and look looking at it spiritually intuitively. And then in the news
serial killers and you know, Fox News has an agenda, but it's all
some of it's true. You know, I don't know what their agenda is
with Portland. I don't think it's benevolent, but anyways, they cover a
lot of what's going on there. So does Andy, who has his own
agenda, but it has become a zombie apocalypse, unsafe place where I worry
about the elderly, where you have a higher than average concentration of homeless because
they legalized heroin and meth. I have a conspiracy attitude, but I don't
know that it's a conspiracy that Portland ended up in the way that it did.
But Portland is a magical place for people that have spiritual views. I
think it has some deep natural earth energy that especially certain Europeans are drawn to
in a country that's basically being taken over by technology, so they're drawn to
that. But there's still just this Portland has a lot of dark history with
kidnapping and shanghaiing and just like everywhere else, the rate of the earth,
So basically it has a lot of witches in it. Now it has good
people in it, but it seems like the people that I used to reach
were older folks. So again, there's a lot of con artists there in
it now and strippers and only fans folks, and just an assortment of different
people. I'm not there, but I don't know if I'm going to be
reading a book in the future, But I think that the future is taking
our information now that we can transcribe it with AI before AI kills us.
And I think that, you know, I see you wrote a book,
and I have one of those sore flares, and I want to do more.
I think that we should use AI to write books so we can leave
the next generation with some information before something happens. And ultimately, I do
think down the line we are dealing with a solar event, but I don't
think that's going to happen anytime soon. I think that we're going to be
done with a whole bunch of craziness here on Earth, you know, before
anything just goes So that could happen, yes, but I still think that
we're gonna Yeah, yeah, I'm not convinced that I'm personally presently convinced we're
going to experience this World War three scenario. As much as that troubles people,
I see nothing currently that says that's not going to happen. I'm waiting,
but at present it looks like we're a full steam ahead towards something.
Yeah, it's crazy. It's again. It's everywhere. It's everywhere you look
in the mainstream, and they're always talking about this. They do want us
affray to AI, So I just want to say that we shouldn't be super
paranoid. I can see, like on the algorithm, they put lots of
fear AI content out there and constantly Put's going to strike us. So I
could see from the perspective they're doing propaganda. They want us afraid. But
I'm not convinced those are fake headlines. You know, did he or did
he not say that we shouldn't just be numb to it just because we believe
Puttin's a good guy. That's what's really scary about the zombie apocalypse. You
and I are living, and now that people are so like pro Putin.
He could be threatening us all day long and building up big weapons, and
they're they're convinced on this one. Their chips are on the table. He
really is their daddy. He really is a good guy, and it's going
to stop the new word order, and he's making threats and the missiles are
going up and we're just relaxed. And then they're hacking into critical infrastructure still
in the data of city employees in certain districts in America. So that's not
officially the Russian government. It's hackers, but it could be the Russian government.
We don't know. What we do know is we're just seeing an increase
in this. And then the FAA a couple of years ago, you know,
they shut down under mysterious circumstances. And then today AT and T shut
down. It's either from a solar event or from some sort of coding error.
And then of course we're hearing about the grid all the time being hacked.
Now that they've set up this grid that can that's run by computers,
it's so now, it's so ironic that in a matter of years trying to
can just hack into that grid as if it's an accident. It's wild to
see, like so much of our world has been digitized. We live much
more digitized lives. All of these things that we do through internet have changed
so much. And we're talking about World War three, we're talking about the
rise of artificial intelligence, large language models, everybody knows about them now.
It just seems like part of this new war will certainly be digital, if
not like a large part of it, and that perhaps all of this craziness
we're seeing online now is like the first sort of phase of maybe the you
know, the call not to call before the storm. I don't even know
what to call it, But this is before things really heat up and get
really turned into any sort of official war or anything like that. I mean,
I can't help but believe that there's all kinds of targeted propaganda coming from
everywhere now, and these AI systems being used as the been to craft and
propagate this propaganda on the behest at the behest of of everybody. I think
everybody's out there making their own propaganda, whether it be the government of China,
the government of Russia, the government of the United States, the government
of Israel, they're all a they all have these tools, and they all
have this We all have this shared collective online existence that these sorts of campaigns
can be inserted into. So I think it's crazy to not think that that's
going on, likely at a very large scale. But any thoughts on that
concept at all, Alex, Yeah, as far as the the the high
tech reality we're going into, so yeah, So I don't think that we're
gonna be able to sort sour flare kills out anytime soon, but it's going
to come at some point that I'm convinced. It's just I don't think that
we're going to be rescued because I do believe in God and that we're here
for a reason. So I do believe that there is like some purpose by
the way spiritually and why we're even here and experiencing all this, that it's
not an accident. So yeah, I think that we all intuitively know that
we're gonna be dealing with this high technology invasiveness, and so we're dealing with
the rise in deep fake porn, which is dystopian for women, which I
talked about in a few videos and why that freaks me out, and so
like this totally unsafe environment has been like set up now on so many different
levels in urban environments. I see the damage that on a personal level,
being ethnic going off grid and being in placed in Colorado knowing that they were
super radicalized towards white supremacy and Trump that no matter what I researched about China,
like, it was not a good idea for me to talk to any
of those folks. And most people will not be in that situation. They'd
be talking to them imbearers with them going to their bars, and I knew
to stay out of their bars. And after a few years to take off
from that spot, you know, and it took a couple of years to
get over it. But all that, all that wouldn't have happened if we
were doing with ten years ago, fifteen years ago without that type of deliberate
interference because people were so gun ho about just not liking Hillary, you know,
which I don't like, but because they were just so gun ho in
that they didn't want to face the truth about the Russian influence, about like
the fake news in twenty fourteen and fifteen regarding all immigrants. Now, having
said that, I have told stories about trying to reach out to woke folks,
woke folks and to BLM, and I've seen their dark side up close
and personal for people that have confused me for like a mainstream leftist. I've
gone to an anti racist meeting and trying to share my experience with them as
a media person, and I've seen these people hiss at me like, you
know, like they were possessed, you know. So I understand sometimes when
there's a backlash woke movement, because some of these people are just absolutely violent
and crazy unstable, like the Black Lives Matter movement. Aspects of an importland,
there might be peaceful aspects of it. But there's a dark side too,
that's like, are our issues matter yours don't, And things may change
right now with Gaza, some people's hearts may be opening up because of the
atrocities that they're seeing, you know. Now that's another thing. So I'll
just say this, we saw a lot of sacrifice energy. I think with
the eclipse. You know, when the eclipse happened after the seventh, so
we're coming up on eclipse in April. I don't know what's going to happen,
but it seems that if we saw something happen around the eclipse, and
then in between the eclipses, we saw the strike on Yemen which instigated you
know, the conflict there with the Houthis that was on one eleven, twenty
twenty four. So does it take a genius to figure out there's a pattern
here that maybe something's I mean around April and so lots of focuses on this.
I'm not gonna be viewing because I'm a little superstitious. I'm not going
to go out and view the eclipse with the glasses like everybody else. Instead,
I'm going to be monitoring world events and making podcasts and maybe doing some
meditation, But some people have advised me that are into astrology that it's not
necessarily a time or which we want to go out. And during the last
eclipse, when I was recording a podcast, I noticed the police were chasing
somebody passed where I live, or normally that hasn't happened. So I already
knew that there was a likelihood that there would be a spike in crime that
day. And so, yeah, this might be new information for people to
hear, but yeah, these are as we get closer to the eclipse.
For some people it might be a spiritual time and for others there might just
be an eruption chaos in more wars and conflicts. Yes, yes, I
mean the ass respect of the solar maximum and solar flares and all that.
That's a big it's a huge part of what you do now. And so
would you say that all of your material you're always having that in mind with
all of your presentations. Yeah, but I've been discussing the soar flares consistently
since two thousand and nine. But I'd say there's been a consistent theme with
most of my content, if that's what you're getting at, Like, there's
there's a consistency with discussing the paranormal possessions sowre flares, getting more into the
eclipses. I checked out a book recently and the clips to learn more about
it, because I just have this feeling. See, I had some unfortunate
things happen around twenty seventeen around the eclipse, and so I've actually personally experienced,
I would say, experiences with other human beings that I would call possessed.
The other thing is that we see news now but the sun erupting with
the strongest sword flares since twenty seventeen in September. The common theme there is
the eclipses somehow are causing the sun or are becoming more active with the sun
somehow, someway. So September twenty seventeen, strong swordflare and an eclipse,
and now whatever's happened in April. And so the movie Civil Wars coming out,
someone made me aware of that. So maybe it's possible that the social
engineers want people thinking about Civil war. My whole thing with the Civil War
is they're trying to create in people's minds. You don't have to actually fight
in it, but some people are being duped into that mindset that they literally
have to fight in a civil war and it's come with their doorstep. And
really I'm more freaked out about World War III Red Dawn situation. I just
rewatched the original Red Dawn for the first time in years. That's what I'm
concerned about. And the zombie apocalypse is what happens when there's no foot fo
and of course, you know, to say it again, I'm concerned about
human human trafficking, women basically being disappeared and sold on black market, and
I'm actually shocked that I live in a world that this isn't like normal conversation.
We have a movie called Sound of Freedom, which I'm not a big
fan of. One of the actors has some cute on leanings, but I
gave it a chance watching on Amazon. It's not bad, but what really
is going on and could be going on is far worse than what's been depicted
there. So the fact is Americans are not actually ready for what actually could
be coming, and then when that happens, Like I said, for those
of us I see where you are. You're in California. For people that
are in urban environments where there's a dense population, where people are not prepared.
It's it's going to be a challenge. So I don't wish these things
on anybody, but yeah, so we'll we'll see what's going to happen the
next couple of years. But yeah, we'll talk more in the future video
about the China mind weapons. So not only do we have people concerned about
mind contry from their own government and gang stocking, I think maybe they should
be more concerned about some of these articles that are emerging. So it's because
of that reason than others that rationally nobody should be on TikTok, and people
that are on TikTok should be educated about what China's doing and about how if
they're on TikTok, that they're engaging in immorality because they're giving that website their
time and energy and their data. And so I think a lot of young
women have been let into a trap, unfortunately, and they're thinking that they
can use TikTok to make a lot of money showing their beauty and how hot
they are. And I've always viewed these cell phones and apps is just leaking
their data on purpose for the day, for the day they come to collect
on the nation's debt. I know that's so horrifying to say so evil,
some would say, but really, what's the evil me or the type of
violent content that's out there in the mainstream media or pornography or video games.
I think that's the evil thing. I think in the end, all my
concerns have been have been rooted in rationale. And maybe the women of twenty
seventy five will agree with me if things go down so way, and they
won't be like, wow, what a jerk. But the truth is,
in the modern neo feminism world, in place like Portland, I've met women
that will throw the drink in my face literally metaphorically and be like, man,
you're crazy. We don't need your help. We need we need somebody
to protect us from you, like literally, like got a bad, bad
night I had twenty eleven. Here I am, I'm talking geopolitics with some
you know, TRETI use my nice language, some nice lady at the bar,
and it didn't turn out. Well, yeah, I got it.
You know what I always find interesting is again this crowd that hates China.
Anything about China's horrible. And again I'm not saying China is wonderful by any
stres that's another point. Yeah, but they've got China tunnel vision, where
China is like the ultimate enemy and I guess there's no other enemies. It's
sort of the same contingent I feel And maybe I'm wrong in this, but
I feel like it's the same sort of contingent that will kind of gleefully talk
about civil war here in the States as though they want it to happen,
like they're they're looking forward to. It's like, yes, the first one
was so great. I guess they just can't wait for another one to happen,
you know what I mean? And then my concept is when when when
I see this, it's like, well, if we were to get into
any kind of civil war, let alone like a serious protracted one, can
you imagine like the state of our country what it would be in And then
might that open the door to China exploiting us in some way? Again?
I mean you talk about a full scale like ground invasion and stuff like.
I mean, if that were the idea, maybe be a little easier if
we kind of, uh gave them the soft landing by killing a bunch of
ourselves off first, you know what I mean? You ever think about that
one? As you know, with the anti China sentiments, and I'm definitely
not anti Chinese people, and that was right in recent years for the COVID
thing, sure, and so that's unfortunate and some people have been harmed as
a result of that. And then the event of World War three, many
Asians would face unfortunately a certain level of discrimination in some areas because of just
the fear, especially if China's attacking the grid. So I'm concerned about them
now. It's like Tucker Carlson in the right, They're gonna be I predicted
this also years ago, that one day they would all be talking about World
War three. I'm sure I can find clips of it. They'd all be
talking about World War three at the same time, and it'd be a certain
nationalistic narrative, not really like how did this come about to be? How
did they end up with these weapons? Let's let's let's look at the receipts,
let's let's let's look at the web here and figure out just what happened.
You know. But no, we're not gonna do that. We're gonna
act like it's kinda popped up like a crazy jack in the box. And
then uh, you know, we got to smack it down with our military
industrial complex, and even top Gun was very staged them having Iran as one
of the nemesisis in the sequel, and then Val Kilmer being sworn to secrecy
as he wrote in his memoir book, and then of course right after the
movie came out, we saw increased tensions with Iran and the events in Yemen.
So yeah, the anti China sentiment's very controlled, and it leaves out
Russia quite often. As I said, there's a saying pro Russia worship like,
uh, it's it's over the top. And I've talked about it for
years before it was school back during the Bush period, and then highlighting pictures
of Bush vacationing with Putin, and just like I said, interviewing that guy
a long time ago, by his vision of an Antichrist figure coming out of
Russia, China bringing the microship earth changes, a major earthquake in San Francisco
before the invasion, major stuff happening in the Mississippi River, sounds like crazy
militia active. And then knowing that just discussing it scared the guy too that
discussed it with me several times, doesn't want to have anything to do with
it, and so it's definitely not an easy cross to carry, not a
popular one. But I've been filling the whole year all these years. By
the way, I took it down for three years, this interview and talks
about it and anything to do with China because of just bullshit that I oh,
I'm sorry, stuff that I had to deal with other people that came
from the Internet anyway, and so I had to well, it really concerned
me that Google and YouTube. There's a lot of issues going on, like
I said, with the emerging technologies like Okay and bit shoot and rumble,
a lot of people have left for these other alternative platforms, and I'm not
going to join the platforms because it's so swayed in a particular direction. You
can even take a look at the anels that are promoted on bit shoot.
But yeah, I appreciate, I apologize for the I don't know if we're
live on a No, No, you're okay, man, don't don't read
it. Yeah, we're good. We're good. Now, you've been you've
been great, man, You're really Yeah, it's been great to have you
here. And as I was telling you before the show started, there is
a second hour that I will be continuing with. Did you want to stay
over for Uncle the podcast when we continue, Alex, or did you need
to get going here? Oh? Is that right now? Yeah? Yeah,
yea, We're gonna switch over now, believable, that's not We've been
through about an hour. Okay, would you like to stay for that?
I'm okay, I'm we can continue. Yeah, okay, great, great,
Thank you very much for that. And I mean, before we head
out from the age of Transitions here, why don't you just take some time
to let people know, Alex where your material is now, maybe your YouTube
channel, any new places that they can find outside the box, TV and
everything else you might be doing. Yeah, alexansory dot substack dot com,
there's YouTube channels, but people should set to the newsletter. Yeah, I'm
gonna be focusing on sore content and geopolitics for a couple months. I got
other topics also. I think it's boring talking about the same thing, but
I believe there's a season to talk about certain topics, and I have an
interest in paranormal topics and maybe I'll do more off grid videos in the future.
But all YouTube dot com, slash OTBTV News is the name of the
main channel. Okay, great, great, Yes, Alex answer man,
thank you again so much for being here. Again, we'll just hang out
for the next show. But right before we go to break. For people
searching on YouTube, it's also at OBT Yeah, OTB TV News on YouTube
as well. So the new AT system that you can search on YouTube,
you can find Alex on there. Alex, I'm sorry OTB TV News and
uh yeah, but if you use the APT thing, it's o TB OTB
TV News. Yes, there we go. That's what it is on YouTube.
I just want to make sure that was read correctly, so that because
some people use this AT thing on YouTube. Now there you go, yeah,
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He needs to start the show. Uncle. Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
We are three twenty four the night and and Alex is on the line.
Yeah that's right, man, I have a guest on the line and his
name's Alex. Shoot the shoot the talk and take it over. You take
it away, I guess take it away? All right? What do you
want to know? Uncle? Our guest? This is interesting Alex Anstree.
He like myself. He had a cable access TV show. He's talking.
I thought he's supposed to say that. Well, okay, are you asking
him? Alex cast yeah, sidekick, I am pay attention. I forget
Hello, you're on here. Hello, not me, it's you. It's
so you're aware. Ox, you are you and I'm me. Okay you
want you want some background or yeah, I'm gonna escapee. I'm an escapey
slave from Portlandia, Yeah, the city that's been taken over by the zombie
apocalypse. So I have I've taken up my microchip and I am a free
range humanoid who is not obeying the rules of the Matrix. So it's upset
the sentinels and they've they've come after me here and there, so I got
to protect myself. I'm kind of like Morpheus in the Matrix right now,
basically narrating the fall society and yeah, so yeah, let's let's narrate exactly
what's wrong before everything collapses and get our message out in a time machine in
a in a time capsule to the future generations. Uh yeah, run a
mission from God. But yeah, I am an escape slave, so I
know a little bit about escaping an urban environment and being homeless and traveling around
in a RV and living off great in the desert without sanitation and living with
crazy people with guns without having a gun myself. Lots of fun experiences in
the desert of Coastia County, Colorado. That's an interesting place if someone wants
to it, does live live on their own land illegally and go just just
put a ten out there and have the county come out and be like,
Okay, you gotta leave, because that's what I'll do now. In Coastia
County, that run you out for your land unless you of course, unless
you own it. No no septic systems. They chose the rules. They
have people. You know, people used to camp on their land, and
this is in Coastia County, Colorado, which is in the southern Yeah,
and I understand that they worry about some people trashing it and some people do
pollute and disrespect the land. That is true. So but the problem is
there's so many homeless now, you know. And so that was a solution
for me, was to go to Costia County in twenty fifteen, and it
was right around the time they were kicking people out their land, and it
seemed like I was meant to be there to fill with my cam quorder and
then to put it on YouTube, and then it became mainstream news and we
were trying to get kind of a movement going, and it seems like long
story short, it seems like there were almost some ancient provocateurs that came in
that wanted to almost radicalize it towards a sovereign citizen thing. And then say,
one guy said that he was a judge of a Continental Congress of the
US. He really had no title, so he was misrepresenting himself as some
sort of legal person or a judge. And so eventually that guy ended up
going to Burns, Oregon where the wildlife Refuge takeover thing took place with Pete
Santilly, that whole famous thing down there in southern Oregon. So it seems
like when you try to step against the local government, strange stuff can happen
and people can join your little group that are who they say they are.
So yeah, people are right now Again, they're going to be fleeing the
cities probably if the economy gets even worse and there's a geopolitical crisis, but
there's not a lot of places for them to go now. So yeah,
well, I want to say immediately, if anybody's listening, we're live on
their Chili radio network is always Sunday night, Uncle, the podcast. You
can call in, call in, oh Friday, Yeah, I'm saying it.
No Sundays, get it on Friday nights. That's tonight. I get
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to Alex. Answered absolutely, And Alex, you know, I didn't realize
you and I might might have stepped upon some of the same circles of communication
there with Oregon. Uh. You know one of the guys that that I
knew, and I know my name got entered into evidence during those trials because
I was at content back with some of those guys. Jason Patrick was from
Georgia and that's where I'm living now. I know you can tell from the
accent right really quickly, though, guys, we do have one caller already
on the line. And uncle, did you want to hear about the international
people listening first? Or do you want to go to the caller? What
are we doing here? Let's listen see who's on there first. Let's see
and then I'll get the call up okay, So just for the record,
we got people in Germany, we got people in Canada. Let's see Australia,
couple of listeners. Let's see Thailand, which is new. I haven't
seen that one on your show before. And let's see who else here we
got. Oh, there's uk which it's really in the middle of the night
over there. Wait a minute, no, it's early morning. I'm sorry,
it's early morning over there. Switzerland. And here's the weird one.
Russian Federation. Okay, listening to my Russian people on the wrestling program.
Yeah, well, when it took to them, guys, Russian Russians,
Russian Russian wrestlers. I want to get to know those guys. Russian Federation.
Might be because they heard Alex was going to be your guest. I
don't know, it could be. I'm not sure. Maybe so okay,
then let's interesting. But those are the local I have somebody on the line
and we'll see and we'll get together. Okay. I know our caller is
not in the Russian Federation. Uh that we're familiar. Well, somebody could
call from the Russian Federation. It's possible. We do have international numbers too,
by the way, but I never give them all out because there's like
fifty of them. Pretty much every country could call in if they wanted to.
But we are also available on Skype. So uh, but you want
me to go to the caller. He's a guy you're familiar with. I
know who's waiting on the line. I bet, I bet you can guess?
Uncle, Can you guess who our caller is? Jimmy, It is
Jimmy, Jimmy caller. You're there, there it is there, you go,
it's me James. There we go. We got a guess here,
Jimmy. Mhm. And I heard Alex Alex? Yes, Hello, give
you a question? Have you heard have you heard Alex before? Jimmy?
I wonder have you run across from before? Because I know you're a consumer
of many independent media sources. So have you heard of Alex before? Yeah?
I have not. Oh well, then this is a treat for you.
Okay, we questions if you would want them. Yeah, well,
I don't know if it's a question so much, but I could see your
reasoning for what the flee cities. Yeah, but go into the desert.
The desert is living in a they and there is a middle ground. You
could try rural. Well, I personally haven't lived in the desert since twenty
thirteen, but that was that that's not really a present story. But hmmm,
I think that going on the desert can be kind of an interesting experience
temporarily, but I don't think it'd be fun full time. Those there's some
pretty intense places to be middle ground. Yeah, there's different places, Central
Organs nice. I've been in Archiletta County where there's trees in the mountains.
That's not so much desert where there's water. I haven't been to Arizona yet,
to said Donna, and maybe later that would be fun. Yeah,
there's a lot of interesting places I haven't been to yet. The problem is
in my travels. The problem is sometimes somebody always wants to be the alpha
and the cult leader in reality when it comes to whether it be in person,
off grid or the Facebook admins in various rural communities. So unfortunately,
because the politics of today's day and age, and some people have served this
country and that's great, but some people they let it go to their head
and they like to have a lot of underlings underneath them, kind of like
they're still in the service, like on Facebook. So I've seen this with
a lot of people out there, and it becomes really difficult to want to
get to know them even though you're off grid. So I have a phrase,
sometimes you can take the person out of Babylon, but not necessarily Babylon
out of the person. So yeah, I think something our modern day technology
has really screwed us up in ways in which even off gritters don't even know
which ways up and down, what's real news, what's fake news, and
a lot of them have been sent on wild goose chases in the alternate media.
So when I lived off grid, it was miserable because everybody, in
my opinion where I lived was straight up under mind control from Facebook. That
was my off grid experience and so I'm not off grid now. I will
be in the future. But for those that don't know, it's super expensive
to live off Grita and Colorado since COVID, the land is doubled, and
some people are actually being priced back into the city because their land tripled,
and so it's going to be even more difficult for some of us in the
next ten years, you know, to get out of the cities. So
if somebody can, somebody asked me if they can. If it's great to
leave the country, yes you can, you can afford it. Good for
you, because those of us that are stuck here they can't afford to leave
or for whatever reason. And I've always thought they were building the fence to
keep us in. And I think Run Paul said that long time ago,
too so. And the Civil War movie is about to be released around April
twenty twenty three. Not to bring this back to too much politics, but
seems like they've got everybody super focused on the Civil War thing before the election,
and that definitely foreign governments want that for sure. China, Russia would
love to see lots of unrest see and Jimmy. The neat thing to note
here with Alex is that his media experience is extremely diverse. If you noticed,
he mentioned Jack Blood earlier, and he's talking about, you know,
not the incarnation where I was producing him here on this network, but the
earlier incarnations of Alex Jones were you know, where he was with Alex Jones
and stuff. Alex was familiar with the alt media of a completely different era
from what we're dealing with now. I mean, I'm not saying you're not
familiar with what's going on now. What I am saying is that he had
a completely different immersive experience as a media person earlier on, I would say
fairly, and therefore is one of these guys who has an educated view from
a direct experience point of view. You know, he's not one of these
guys who came along and figured out it would be great to be on Rumble
and started a channel on Rumble recently, you know what I mean. So,
you know, and much like you were talking about, and Aaron two
has a long history you know, also being on the what do you call
that again? The Access TV, public Access and stuff like that, which
I think Alex you mentioned in the last hour you had just gone back to
doing right. Yeah, Actually, so it was a couple of years that
I took off, and so I was doing Access for ten years, and
then I did some a few different alternate media websites from Oracle and a few
others, and then unfortunately I did save those archives, but I did save
most of the cable access shows and interviewed in that time maybe two hundred people.
Jones was nice enough in those days to talk to me. I clyde
lewis a long list of others, and then long story short, around twenty
thirteen, fourteen, I became homeless, became to be very discontent with the
direction of the mainstream media, began to talk out about what I didn't like
about Jones, why it was my hero initially, and why I chose to
tune out from that, and at that point kind of began to be less
influenced by other men and thinking more for myself, although I always did,
but I saw them more as my spiration. So then I became a my
own journey of just getting deeper into, like I said, the source cycle
stuff and what I'm writing about, and the geopolitics and the paranormal and just
stuff that's my own, and maybe sharing a little bit more about my story
than other truthers will stories about child abuse, stories about heroin addiction before OTBTV,
stories about going to jail, stories about like making mistakes in life before
I even touched the mic, how that was a part of my healing journey.
So it's different than a lot of people. And I've tried to get
my family support and people in Portland support, and really it's just been it's
been difficult, and I feel like other people they deal with a little less
shadow banning when they go along with certain narratives exactly. So that's why I
stopped creating content for three years. But I felt spiritually called back, not
for money, but because by being silent, I did not feel well.
I feel like it's good to take a break from it, but it's difficult
to really quit this stuff once you're committed. Yeah. See, And this
is the way Jimmy where like alex is and Alex might not even know this,
but I view him very much as somebody who's akin to me in this
way where you know, I start telling the personal stories in a way that
a lot of other indie media people would never do. You know, and
you're Alex, are you familiar with Christy AFRODITI? We did talk a few
times. I was on our show a few times. I've figured stuff's interesting,
especially about the coconut oil polling and that she's been on her own journey.
So every now and then I'll check out a video. But we haven't
been in touch, I think for about ten years, and a lot of
people and I we've drifted apart. I talked to Jack a long time ago.
I met him briefly when I visited Austin in two thousand and five when
I met Alex briefly, but just have have drifted apart. But I did
check out Jack Blood when he came back on his YouTube channel, Christy,
But yeah, what was it? What do you do to say about her?
Oh? No, it's just that these are people that I've worked with
too, So I mean, I'm just saying, and they're they're kind of
unique in that. I mean Jack again, you know, Jack has been
on a different journey. And when he came back on with the YouTube channel,
he was also doing the radio show here, you know, briefly we
did the three sixties show for about a year actually, where he was on,
you know, once twice a week, this kind of thing. Uh.
But but he he decided he liked the YouTube thing better and then he
went back to doing his thing on the ground, you know, in in
his local area as a musician, as the thing that you know, was
his passion for the majority of his life. And Christy is on a different
journey now. She has this whole you know, the what she calls it,
the the Natural Church of the Ozarks and all that where she's you know,
got a place where she's growing her own stuff and you know, doing
the healing journey that way. But you reminded me of her when you brought
up homelessness. And as far as I know, and Christie are the only
people who have really discussed homelessness. I mean, at one point, she
was doing a show called Homeless Radio on American Freedom Radio where she was still
living out of her van and she was trying to get back into uh you
know again, spread good messages, spread good words, positive things, and
she's been on an interesting journey too, and it just it reminded me of
those two people when you were talking. Then you brought up Jack in the
first hour. So anyway, with that, I'll shut up, Jimmy.
I just wanted to give you another side of it, you know, another
another portion of Alex's story for you to maybe ask a question or make a
comment about. So hopefully I've helped you out there, Jimmy, and I'll
check the lines and anybody else who wants to call in three one nine five
two seven five zero one six. And with that the producer shuts up.
There we have it, uncle, Well yeah, I said, Jimmy.
Well go ahead, Jimmy, go ahead, Jimmy, I'm listening ease,
yah, but I didn't know that he was kind of a very tight here
and what podcasting and radio ault radio. Yeah, I didn't know that you
were involved with Alex Jones. Uh, here's just a thought of mine.
Uh. I don't know if you've been keeping up with Alex Jones and Professor
Fetzer's legal woes. But would you agree with me that the big difference is
I've looked into these these these two cases just just for funds. He's and
I know it's see Alex Jones he admitted in his divorce here is that he's
a quote unquote entertainer and may or may not believe what he says, performance
artist. So that's why he Yeah, that's why he could be found liable.
Of course the billion dollars, of course that's ridiculous, a bit excessive,
and the cool and the unusual and bizarre. But the difference between Fetzer
is no, he's covered by the First Amendment. Why because he believes it.
If you want to go after FETs Er, you're at the disadvantage to
have and to prove that he's saying and does and doesn't believe what he says.
I think he absolutely does believe it. What do you think, anyone,
Well, it's an interesting topic. I am new to this topic.
I know who Fetser is. I met him briefly at the Mark Passio conference,
so this is new to me. I'm assuming it has to do a
Sandy Hook because he also had theories about that. I don't agree with everything
Fetzer has to say, but he's in his own universe. But yeah,
I'm not I'm not familiar with this and I'm looking it up right now now.
I don't follow Alex anymore for personal reasons because but I am interested in
kind of hearing the cliff notes of what Alex is saying. I guess,
and if he's it's really unpopular, I guess to be critical of Alex,
I guess in certain areas depending on what your criticism is. Feel free to
tell me more about this this legal case if you guys would like to,
because I'm just now looking it up. Yeah, Chuck probably do a better
job out to the overall Chuck. Basically, for my memories, that kid
by the name of Hogg was going all over the news networks talking about gun
grabbing, taking guns away, and he involved Yeah with he's a so called
survivor from Sandy Hook. Yeah I know him. I don't know him,
Yes, I know of him, right, so that automatically he's a public
figure. Okay, So there's a lot of problems there. Basically, I
think Fencer is no, you can't fall. He could say anything he wants
period, well and especially if he truly believes it. Yeah, see the
case, the court case has nothing to do with with that kid Hogg.
It's got to do with Posner, who is uh the plaintiff in the civil
suit. Uh where basically he was accusing Posnor of committing crimes and therefore there's
the liability and there were other elements to it. But anyway, this case
was adjudicated already, uh and Fetzer's up for I think it's one million,
four hundred thousand dollars something like this as far as the settlement goes. But
it was about Posner, and Fetzer did himself no favors by not following the
court's directions and uh entering things in trying to enter things into evidence, sharing
evidence that was supposed to be privileged and only shared with the attorneys and so
on and so forth. Uh So he also got himself a contempt uh charge
against him during the court proceeding. So you know, there was a lot
of things. I actually had a reporter present at the trial for a couple
of days shout out, yeah, I just wanted to and I just had
one more just with the was the Chucks. Oh well, then if the
Hawk kid was involved in this thing, then he must have been the one
involved in the Alex Jones thing. There was ale of him as the two
of them. The day Hog kid is from the shooting in Florida, and
then he went around doing you know, the anti gun, anti gun violence,
anti school shooting campaign and became kind of a media sweetheart for a bit,
and they were battling back and forth. Alex Jones and this David Hogg
and a lot of other al media people sort of went after Hog and claimed
that he was a crisis actor and all that kind of stuff. But as
far as I know, that's not what the court case is about. The
court case is about damage is done to these different parents, okay, And
there's where it comes from. And again, Fetser, in the course of
his trial didn't answer his charges properly at all. So you know, what
are you going to do except that he tried to bring in an attorney that
wasn't accepted by the court even though he was a practicing attorney in another state.
You have to be able to enter him in there as somebody who's acceptable.
I mean, these are typical problems. And Fetser, regardless of direction,
didn't follow me. It's always a given, and an attorney's going to
be allowed ad hoc to practice. Look, I mean, well, no,
not at all. You have to be acceptable. No, I don't
beliefs, but he he's being targeted for his weird beliefs. Well that's what
some people claim. But what I'm telling you is that why he was found
liable is because he did no proper. When you go into a court,
uh, you have to behave according to what the judge declares you have to
do. I mean, that's just universal. And just because somebody has a
license to practice law in another state doesn't mean they're acceptable as an attorney in
you know, whatever state you're in. You have to get them to be
accepted, you know what I mean. And you notice this during pre trials
of all sorts of stuff. Even these guys that go from state to state,
some of these you know, glorified super glorified ambulance chasers like that guy
Krump who shows up at every racial shooting. Right, he can't go into
court and do anything if they don't accept him as a legitimate attorney in that
jurisdiction, Fetzer. That was the first problem. The second problem is he
brought in stuff that you know, he claimed was evidence and they rejected it.
You have to go through a process to enter something properly into evidence.
This is the way our courts work in this country. You can't just bring
in anything and dump it in front of him, like you talked about with
the Warren Commission thing being brought in where they said, look the Warren Commission
volumes, which they brought in in a wheelbarrow to say, hey, here's
our evidence. They kind of went, yeah, that's hearsay, not acceptable.
It's from the bench that that stuff happened. And like I said,
he ended up with a contempt charge because he wanted video of the individual that
he was being sued by, and he wanted to claim that that wasn't even
the person, so he took it to an identity. You know, somebody
was gonna be his video expert, even though he was instructed specifically that only
himself and his attorney were permitted access to this piece of video, and he
didn't follow court directions, and that's how he ended up with the contempt charge
on him. Like I said, everything that he and that's the only thing.
You'd have to follow the whole trial to see what happened here. It
was like every court direction he was given representing himself most of the time,
he didn't follow any of the directions and therefore was not able to do anything
in court and just complained about it. That's all he did the whole time.
Alex Jones had a team of attorneys, different circumstances entirely, but Fetzer
didn't even in my estimation, make an effort to adequately defend himself. You
know so well he didn't. He didn't have an attorney. He didn't have
an attorney, and it is trying to provide xeroxes off the internet is evidence
of course he didn't know what he's doing right right there, it should be
tossed. Help. Yeah, but that doesn't because because you're you're not able
to get an attorney, you know, that doesn't dismiss the lawsuit. I
mean, or because you go in and you bring things that I mean,
you know, they give it, and they gave him opportunities like, look,
go home and figure out something here that's legitimate to bring in. That's
why it took five days, and they still he would show back up and
say, no, you need to accept this stuff, even though he's told
by a judge no. You know, it's like if you tried to bring
in you know, if you claim that I injured you and you brought photographs
in and they said, look, you got to prove that these photographs were
made at around this time, and what you brought us is a copy of
a photograph where we don't have a proper date on it. Go back and
bring proper evidence back in, and you show up the next day and drop
the same photographs, you know, in front of the judge. What's he
supposed to do? You know, I'm just saying it's like that. That's
a different story. The guy never offered an adequate defense at all, even
though he was instructed as to how to do so and allegedly had the advice
from different attorneys. But those attorneys were not permitted to go in court and
represent him directly because they didn't have. They weren't recognized as having the ability
to practice law and be an attorney in that jurisdiction. So you know,
it was a whole mess like that. So Offenser's trial, and again part
of the judgment against him is literally contempt for not following the judges' directions.
You're not supposed to show this to other people, and he did. He
shared it with other people even though he was specifically admonished not to do so.
So to me, this is the guy who made his whole problem.
They take that, you know, forget about what you think of a journey.
Yes, I know what he's doing. I know what he's talking about.
You now, I know we're getting somewhere. Is when you talked it
and you in the Jewela, you cannot say a wound no from that experience.
This is what check is talking about. I know it is. There's
a lot of rules in court, and if you don't follow them, you're
going to pay the price for that, sure or the one. Uh.
If you're the defendant in Fetzer's case, yeah, you're in that Pudi.
On the opposite way though, wouldn't be the same in a way if you
a jula, well you know, but you're supposed to. And that's the
thing though, is that you know, the prosecution could try to bring things
into and you can object to it and say, hey, look that's not
legitimate evidence. And if you've got a good argument, supposedly the judges are
supposed to deny entry. And you know that way too. But the thing
is that this guy never made even a proper effort. In my opinion,
I mean, if you're intelligent and you realize this is the way the court
is, this is the way the situation is, you got to at least
make a proper attempt. You know. It's the old adage of bringing a
knife to a gunfight. You know, hey, let me walk up to
you with this knife. No, this is a gunfight. Boom, you're
done. I mean, that's pretty much what happened here. And uh so,
you know, regardless of his First Amendment position or anything else, this
was about injury to this guy Posner, who you know again is the is
the the father of one of the Sandy Hook victims. So therefore this,
this is what the lawsuit was about, had nothing to do with Hog.
No. Hog is a whole you know, media circus thing where it's like
Yeah, that kid's out there trying to you know, get people, get
people to have their guns taken away. And of course that's the overall contention
Offetser is that that's what Sandy Hook was all about, was just having people
disarmed, and it was a you know, a political thing and that's all
it was. And it was all fake and et cetera, et cetera.
Which again I have a different view on it than that, and I have
a different view on it than probably Alex than everybody else. But it just
is what it is. It's not about his view here though. It was
about injury to Posner in that case. Leonard Posner was the guy's name,
and all this, Uh, it almost makes you want to go to Clurt.
What do you say, Alex? It sounds like a lot of fun.
Huh. Maybe being a defendant in court? Isn't that just like a
great idea? You like that idea? I'm asking Alex, we may have
lost him here? What happened to him? I'm not sure? I'm sorry,
Alex. Are you still there with us? Man? Are you talking
to your mute button? Or let me say here? Did we lose him?
Maybe we may have lost Alex Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, did
we lose a connection or something. I don't know. I'm double checking here,
He's okay, yeah, I had the mute button. Okay, I
have to get more information on the story. Like I'm just Google as you
guys are talking. I still don't even understand what the lawsuits about. So
I see Leonard for Posner. I have the document brought up. You know,
this is something which you know. If I knew we're going to talk
about it ahead of time, I would have watched some videos. But so
I did not know that. Now I might be on that, but I
have to look at it. I have plenty of opinions on the truth movement,
various people, people that I feel have burned me, people that have
viral YouTube channels that I think put out disinformation about the sun dying, when
in fact the source cycle is in fact very active. It's like the real
world that I know that I'm writing about that I want the future to know
about in fifty years, is that fake stuff went viral in our day and
age, and truthful stuff got buried, all different types of truthful stuff,
and we all have our own stories. So yeah, uncle, you can
relate to this, can't you the truth being buried? Yeah? What he's
talking about, right, I guess is talking about I know I can understand
his point view on that. Nice but what but what? Uh? Jimmy
was talking completely out of portion. He was going in a different direction.
Fun fun in court. That's fun in court. I mean, who doesn't
just allow it? That man? Great time? But yeah, yeah,
Alex has been at this a long time, uncle, He's been making media
a long time. A year. So how long were you on broadcasting?
Well, I did some broadcasts for Oracle and American Freedom Radio and Republic Broadcasting,
and I interviewed Joe Scouts in about twenty twenty five and uploaded a video
to disclose dot tv and they took it down. I don't know why,
but so and then one of the co founders of Oracle went on to co
found a naughty website that got into a lot of extremism. So I don't
know if you had a bias against me for deleting my content. But it's
not just you, You Tube or Google that sensors. You know. Sometimes
people get mad at other people and they just delete all their stuff. Well
just to click one click and that's it. So lesson to be learned.
Back up your stuff, have a good hard drive, not one of the
cheap ones. I've gone through a lot of hard drives in the off grid
years, like when you're off grid, yeat and you're homeless. Lots of
broken computers, hard drives, all my possessions that I had in Portland,
not that I'm telling your soop story and just you know, everything gone when
I left Portland. Someone was supposed to store my stuff when I went on
my off grid journey, and that's probably all gone. So I had stuff
and started over with the backpack multiple times, like in a ten year period.
So yeah, after the COVID thing, definitely, Yeah. I have
my own story about leaving the Internet and leaving conspiracies and during the COVID watching
the mainstream media for a while and not wanting to just by being just feeling
just disenfranchised for fifteen years and then feeling like I gotta leave my off grid
property. So then I came back recently and so like, I believe in
just thinking for myself, being a contrarian. But I don't listen to the
other people anymore. I have different views on Russia, and I just see
a lot of people AMTV. Clyde Lewis singing too the same tune, and
Coast to Coast isn't great. They have a lot of people on that I
don't agree with. But they're gonna let me on next month to talk about
the soar flares and the war cycles for the second time. So I'm gonna
be getting prepared for that because it's really rare for someone like me to get
on a show to talk about anything. I try to talk to Clyde and
others, and there's a lot of people that do gatekeep when they like to
control exactly what the narrative is like too much in alternative media. There's way
too much control freak behavior in alternative media with what we talk about. Who's
going to interview on Coast to Coast? By the way, did they tell
you? Oh uh, Nori Nori cool cool? I was on with Sarah
in November, so oh okay, yeah, And I will check that out.
I haven't listened to it. I don't know you that well. I've
just heard positive things. Have I just heard Jack bled said he was on
your network, and other people have so I would check that out. I
don't know who Sarah is Yeah, Richard saraht. He does a podcast called
Strange Planet, which actually Aaron was a guest on not too long ago,
too, right, Aaron, Yeah, yeah, that's right. And he's
also one of the hosts you know that rotates for coast to coast. I
put Jimmy on hold, by the way, uncle, So I don't know
if anybody else wants to call in, but I mean, we got another
maybe ten ten plus minutes left of this hour, and and that'll be that.
So you know, if you guys want to get in, it's time
three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six And Clyde.
You know, it's great. Did you have Clyde on when you were
on American Freedom Radio? Well we knew each other in person, not super
great, but you know, he I was in Portland. He was in
Portland, and he was on some of my earlier shows, you know,
and then we had some differences of opinion around the twenty ten period and drifted
apart, and then I left Portland around twenty eleven, then came back,
was almost for a year in my car, and then left again in twenty
fifteen. Around that time he ended up on commercial radio. After two thousand
and eight or nine, so we did maybe like five to ten shows together.
That's cool. Yeah, I've had him on as an interview a couple
of times on my show as well. And I was actually his JFK guest
this year on the anniversary, so you know, But because I'm a JFK
researcher, I don't know if you're familiar with any of my stuff. We
might have been on AFAR at the same time. Actually, you and I
at one, I think, So I didn't listen. I wish the archives
were still up. Yeah, I missed some of the and the Oracle ones,
but yeah, there was a lot of shows American Freedom Radio had.
I remember I looked it up recently trying to see if the Ora chives were
up or what happened with Danny, because I know he dealt with a lot
of challenges and relocated up the Washington state. So yeah, I've tried to
follow up. But yeah, yeah, no, it was. It was
a great time. And and and Oracle boy, there's the name I haven't
heard in quite a while. I wonder where Bob Tuscan is today, you
know. Uh, So you know, anytime you anytime you want to be
on mine, Alex, you welcome, and and on on my Oh you
got to get into my evolution when it comes up. Yes, yeah,
we do it more out out of it. Yeah. We do a four
hour live show on every New Year's We do a four hour live show every
New Year Alex. So you know you could get we We invite tons of
people to call in that night. And I mean, we'd be more than
happy if you join us at New Year's Eve. You know, if if
the world doesn't fall apart by then, uh, you know what I mean.
Yeah, I suspect we'll still be around. Okay, I'll put out
my calendar than you expect, you know, I suspect, but you never
can tell. Uh. You know. Look, I'm open minded about the
whole thing, right. I don't make those decisions. I just work here.
I don't know, I know. So anyway, Medusa boys, Medusa
did well. One of the interesting things Clyde did a long time ago was
mattis Hell TV, which was another access show and her name was Courtney I
forget her last name, and so Clyde would come in. It was two
thousand and one, two three, four five, and I think Anthony Hilder
did his show there and with Daniel Hopsticker. I don't know him real well,
but he's really a really well known researcher. So yeah, yeah,
I remember Hopsticker. Yeah, Hilder was there too, that's crazy. Oh
and also I got a Saturday show party also if you interested Saturday, we
should be doing that tomorrow watching VHS. DHS Saturdays they do a VHS watch
party thing and they also sometimes do video games too, but they haven't done
the video games lately, yeah, in a while. So I don't know
if you want me to let Jimmy James back on or whatever. Uncle,
it's your show, your call, but you know, whatever you want to
do. Like, Alex has got a lot to say here, so he
does get a lot. If anybody else wants to call there, more than
welcome. Three one, nine, five, seven, five zer own six.
We're talking to Alex's answer of Outside the Box TV. A true veteran
in the alternative media world, right, I'm gonna put the link to the
UH to Alex's YouTube channel in the live chatroom at o'celli dot com, So
if you go over there, you can even go in as an anon if
you're not familiar guys, if you're listening on your phone or whatever. Uh
there it is at o'celli dot com and we have a chattango over there,
and Alex would be familiar with the chattango. I've been using that thing for
I don't know, the better part of a decade at least. Yeah,
Yeah, that's been around for a while. I used it last in twenty
ten, I think. There you go, So I think I started using
it back then. But anyway, either way, I've only been around about
ten years and Alex has been around longer. Just for the listener's edification.
Oh and like I said, I'm over the top of it. Ellen,
that sounds that's Alex. No, we know it's not easy, not easy
to do, but he's just done it. It's been actually many years since
I've been on the conference call. I mean, I know I in Oracle
during those days. I think I talked with Doug Owen, you know,
off and on. Maybe it was two thousand and nine or ten, But
it's been quite a while. Yeah, there's a lot of you know,
I've tried to reach out to certain people that I talked to a long time
ago, and like David Ike and whatnot. And a lot of them.
I guess you guys already know this are are that are around the Alex Jones.
It's like kind of like a click. Unfortunately at this point things would
change in the last decade, so it's a little harder to get some of
those guests. But I am really grateful that I did start out young before
YouTube with trying to get guests, and then I had the honor of being
able to interview these people before they got in such high demand. So I'm
really lucky that I had the chance that David I talked to me a long
time ago, and he got up at three o'clock in the morning his time
in England, and here I was barely with volunteers trying to figure out how
to work the audio. Audio quality is not up to par with what it
should have been for a day would like interview in my first few months,
and so I just considered myself to be like I face a lot of hardship,
but I did was lucky enough to get some decent interviews and meet certain
people. With Anthony Hilder, I met him in person and we went through
a checkpoint in Portland, Oregon with the legal tags while they were doing a
checkpoint four tags and then we it's like almost as if we had a shield
of protection around us and we got out to film this checkpoint in Portland,
Oregon. Anyway, Yeah, Anthony Hilder is an interesting character, and so
yeah, I do foresee myself write a book one day about just some of
my stories behind the scene. It's not to expose anyone to just talk about
the rule behind the scenes reality of being a young person trying to create alternive
media content in a world that's very behind the scenes, cutthroat and competitive.
Yeah, that's actually what I was going to ask you about as my final
because with conspiracy theorist you really don't have friends. You have a lot of
backstabbers that go crazy with conspiracy theories, start developing psychosis that you're one of
them. And in fact, there can be an essay I can write why
the Truth movement destroyed my life if you want to go there. So like,
actually, like I've just the sad thing is it attracts really messed up
people that if theories about everything and they don't know how to be a friend.
So actually, if if someone want to make friends, conspiracy genre is
not what I would recommend, but I'm speaking from my lived experience. Someone
else there's experience might be different. Yeah, I would suggest as a book
title, Alex the Fine Line between Crazy and Conspiracy Theory, because you know,
the fine line between intelligence and crazy, right, is what we've heard
our whole lives. But really, honestly, it's it's it's the funniest thing
in the world. I mean, going from the targeted individuals who legitimately feel
as though they're targeted, whether it's true or not, and then actually living
in a circumstance where you find, you know, strangely, there are people
really watching you. You know, like the story that I've told on air
about the Homeland Security being triggered on me. Uh, you know, when
I was allegedly the victim in a situation, things can get very weird.
And that was before I had a radio show, by the way, it
was just a JFK researcher, and they got weird on me, you know.
So anyway, it's it's it's it's quite the journey. I was curious
though, what your thoughts were about, you know, how much of this
do you think is just symptomatic of the stuff that people immerse themselves in like
how much of it is organic and how much of it do you think is
orchestrated when it comes to the strangeness and the world of people that again,
like you said, you're not going to find a lot of friends. You
can find some. You used to find a brotherhood, but I think those
days are gone, and you can find lots of people that will try and
get close to you, but their motivations have a wide range, right,
Like it's good to get donations, but some people like will donate to try
and manipulate one's energy or what they say. Like, I do believe in
psychic powers and telepathy, so even if some people don't, So we're all
connected, even if we don't know that we're connected. And so like by
being online and putting your energy online and people focusing on you, and if
you don't shield yourself, you can come under like entity attack from people's thoughts
and what's attached to them. In my understanding, so David like has his
version of the reptilians, and that's fine. My overlay intersects with that,
but it's kind of my own take. And so I think that some people
talk about the idea of controlled opposition my perception of it, some people are
overshadowed by a spiritual overtaking, and there's almost like a dark agenda to control,
to dominate a topic, to push someone out, and a theory that
they're just doing it for money, as some people might have in some cases.
I don't believe. I don't believe at the deeper levels that some people
are just about the money, that there's more or less than evil. So
there's really, I think, even at a hidden war within the truth movement.
And when it comes to solar flares, even if that's somewhat new to
some of you, it goes in a different areas. Some people say like
we're going to be ascending with the soor flares, which I don't believe in,
and that's really popular David Wilcock content and then others talk about how we're
going to die from a massive soorflare took a Carlson just did a story on
that. Than others they talk about the GSM and the Grand Sore minimum,
And what I'm talking about is the unrest and other things that are based in
science. What I'm saying is it seems like even with the sore flaars like
with the other stuff, there's like a war on truth. Even with the
algorithm, and we talk about racism, we shouldn't. There is an anti
white sediment. I don't deny that. What I perceive is like a racist
sentiment that's promoted by algorithms, by technology that's leading people artificially towards certain sediments.
And so when I talk about that, people don't act like they understand
that. Like conspiracy theorists seem really led in some cases by algorithms, by
fake news when they should be a little bit more conspiratorial about what's being shown
to them on Facebook. So I'm pretty pessimistic about society now and the big
tech websites and the direction. For sure, I don't see a real truth
movement. We might be able to rebuild pockets of it, like micro cells,
but on the larger scale, like even the psychic rooms psychic groups on
Facebook seems like it's full of a bunch of fake psychics that have no intuition
about anything going on course and those arenas. And I do believe in the
ability to have abilities that potential, but I don't believe that a lot of
the people that we see that are popular that I have the most views.
Things like that are the most honorable, So it just seems like, yeah,
I don't want to sound stuper nihilistic, but it's through this that I
have a faith in God that we're meant to just be sharing this truth and
that we need to be preparing for I advocate not trys still in my here,
but I advocate people trying to write books and hand zines out in the
street to try to just start truth in the street outside of technology. Like
I'm very suspicious of this QR code thing, everybody with a cell phone sending
everybody to a QR code, Like that's one way to truth, and I
might do that at some point, but I want to almost return to an
old school way of reaching people. I've made attempts in my own community to
talk about certain things a form of meetups, and for years it's failed.
So for right now, the only people that I can reach are going to
be on the Internet. And that's it's I think situational that you are in
too, So you feel right, So I just want to get this straight.
You feel like we're in a stage here where it is not necessarily about
the physical struggle now, but it's it's actually on a spiritual level where we're
really contending with many a dark force. Like you know, mary Anne Williamson
wasn't entirely wrong right when she was saying what she was saying about the great
dark force that is exerting itself, and we are equally affected as as the
rest of the planet. And of course that that nearly doubles our struggle for
those of us seeking to reach outside of the conventions. Would you would you
say that's true? Exactly so, me having sensitivity when I was doing online
radio and in two thousand and eight, nine and ten, I believe I've
faced a lot of interference, a lot of really negative energy from the chat
room vibes, and then just also the negativity that I noticed in some of
the talk show hosts that I'm not going to mention and some of the cool
things they were saying. It was like, are they being targeted? Is
there some sort of a beam weapon that's being pointed at all of us as
hosts to try to drive us into insanity and turn on each other. So
these are actual thoughts I had the whole time. If there was some sort
of interference, you know, energetically, and then what that is we could
speculate, but I think that people that want to make everything about the TI
gang Stocking government program are really overlooking what these unseen forces could be doing.
A lot of them they really want to argue and make it, Oh,
it's physical, it's the government, and if they want to believe that,
that's fine. I think there's something beyond that. Of course, it's beyond
the physical. And I think that I've told them in videos that go back
at least ten years, I've made this position. I think the entities are
trying to manipulate people and thinking that it's just physical, that it's their neighbor,
that it's that guy down the street, because if they can cause someone
to act like they have psychosis, then they can, you know, and
that person could be seen as crazy. So the mental health field right now
is not prepared to deal with. For example, what's going on right now
is society right and the paranormal, and there's lots of signs of That's one
of the reasons I stopped uploading for three years is I saw a lot of
signs of possession online. Now we kind of we're still there now, but
it's less it's a little less than twenty nineteen before COVID. A lot of
people agree was we're weird times. So you think, yeah, I'm sorry,
I just wanted to ask one last question. So you think that there
is indeed an element of the profiteering types out there that does exist in the
controlled opposition, but you think that that's not the prevalent thing that's motivating this,
which is stifling and atomizing in truth regarding all these things, I mean,
the nine to eleven truth has been atomized, in my opinion, completely
destroyed. And you know they both obviously exist. Yes, yeah, they
both obviously exist, and obviously this many ways. I've had dealings with some
people. I opened up a survival store briefly in Portland for a few folks
that were romp the followers, and they really had an agenda to terrify their
customers to a newsletter that they sent out to say the world was ending in
twenty twelve, and they were trying to recruit me into there because I wantn't
budge. I kind of got forced out of that situation. So I've had
experiences, but that there was also still an element of evil with one of
the individuals. It wasn't just a money thing, and in the end his
attempts to make money failed in that store collapsed and was no more. But
he was an individual who was evil, who was evil incarnate one of those
business partners. And so I yeah, I can elaborate on that anyway.
Like, but I do suspect that behind the scenes that human beings can become
targeted if they emerge in the truth circuit and if they can be co opted
on a soul level. There's ways, however, you see it religiously chat
on the devil Satan in which we can be tempted. In the Bible,
he talks about Jesus in the wilderness or the temptation. And I feel like
in the truth movement that that's taken place through the algorithmic, Like when the
the Google AdSense thing really exploded in twenty fourteen fifteen, right before Trump,
and they made it really easy for what they call bad actors to come in
and abuse the system so badly that now your average content creator can't monetize until
they have a thousand subscribers, which is almost impossible to get now. So
they set it up to be abused the big tech system and now nobody can
make a living on YouTube. So there's a lot of ways in which the
alternive media rose in a matter a few years and was driven including the nihilven
truth movement like into the ground, and I think that we should psychoanalyze it
and make it a part of the historical record how the truth movement rose and
how it kind of shifted. And so that's the reason why I don't want
to go to bit shoot and Rumble and Honesty and these other because the energy
doesn't feel right. I know I can get hits over there and clicks,
but are those the viewers that I want? Yeah, I think moving into
the future, I don't want lots of viewers. I want quality viewers that
are more of a friend camaraderie type consciousness than a follower, you know,
right right, No, no, And look, I've done some of those
platforms, but I have some Here's the funny part, guys, And we're
about at the end of time here, Aaron, So if you want to
get ready for shout outs and wrap it up, we're ready to go.
But really quickly, what you're essentially saying is is the thing that I've been
trying to communicate for a long time, and it seems to fall on a
lot of deaf ears. Quite frankly, is that we are at a point
here where indeed, these concerns of the physical realm are active weapons. They
are weapons, but they're being weaponized on multiple levels, not just those with
worldly concerns, but I think they've been weaponized as yet another part of the
arsenal in the spiritual conflict that we're faced with. And it is it's it's
happened again, it will happen again, it has happened, you know what
I mean, all things that it just continues to cycle through. And I
think I think we're at that point though, where we got to recognize that
it's not just the simplistic and the easy to track. Sure it's profitable and
there are profiteers, but some of them, and the maybe even the majority
of them, are motivated by things that are completely misunderstood and not even recognized
by most conventional individuals, organizations, et cetera. I think, yeah,
I think that's where you're coming down on this, right agreed, Yeah,
absolutely, yeah, And then I can elaborate on that even even further.
But yeah, there's the people we'll do things right now for no reason whatsoever,
for not for money, not for hits, just to be malicious.
There's literally some sort of a dopamine hit that in it is may be giving
some humans. There literally is like a pleasure center. It's activated by certain
types of cruelty that's exhibited in my opinion. Well, with that, I
think we did. I think we should. So, yes, we usually
do shout outs here at the end of the show. So Alex you are
our guest. There anybody that you'd like to send a shout out to tonight,
say hello to any any shout outs for tonight. Well, hello to
all the people out there with souls. I don't know, no one specific.
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm, you know, just trying to communicate
to the good people out there and not be distracted by the evil, because
evil rises sometimes to distract us from the good things in this world and the
good people. So this time around, I want to be more focused on
some of the positive aspects of alternative media. And uh yeah, yeah,
there's no one specific to that like that I have to shout out. It's
kind of lonely out there in the truth moved these days, but it was
fun meeting you guys and have a lot in common with some of the things
that you guys brought up. Yeah, oh yeah, it's great to have
you Alex. Uncle interesting. Yeah, I like, I guess like you
had gutten and I let I let him handle the show and killed most of
it because to know what he's like, that's why I do. Oh yeah,
he's got he had a lot to say, uncle, and he could
actually he's got a lot more to say, you know. So uh yeah,
maybe if he's wanting to come back, that would be great. Uh
And certainly we we talked about he'd come on the New Year's Revolution too.
Whatever, man, I I say, open door and if you ever want
to come on my show. Also, Alex, I'm here still doing my
thing ten years deep plus, but you know, not not not quite as
thank you. So anyway, Aaron, we still got Jimmy on the line
too, if you want to let you get a shout out on him.
Okay, well we better bet Jimmy show, Jimmy on, Jimmy on he
got Jimmy. What do you got? Well? First off, thanks stout
Alex for being a guest and speak to us. Appreciate it. Thankstomable and
Sidekick. Thanks to the producer, Chuck appreciate it. Oh, and I
absolutely agree, alex Is that's interesting. Just recently, I was trying to
persuade someone that there is through forces. About the best I could do is
to get him to admit that there's the least natural forces. He did acknowledge
that, as in weather and why not, but he didn't quite He just
said, I don't believe it. God, you kind of what I'm talking
about, Chuck. You know the conversation I'm talking about. Yeah, of
course I get it. I get it. But it's one of those things.
Look, you got to convince him that water's wet sometimes. Man,
it just is what it is, and you don't see it. You don't
see it. What can I do for you? Accept? You know,
pray that you improve? Right? I mean, what am I going to
do? Uh? But Jimmy, I do know one thing. I know
who the devil is. There we go. I knew that, all right,
I n who it is. Are you going to shout out to the
devil, uncle? Or shout at the devil? Reps at the shout at
the devil? Trump? Oh that guy that he's the del Okay? All
right, well there you go. Well uncle theepodcast, dot com at Uncle
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