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I straightened out the phone calls and
I'm trying to get everything together here.

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So whenever you have Alex ready,
we'll get to get to roll and if

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you want or we could start to
roll and I can set up to take

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a break if he uh shows up. Yeah, let's let's do that.

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Let's just start and set up to
take a break. If he comes in.

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Let me give him the phone number. Okay, right, give him

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that. I will grab another age
of transitions intro and outro for you,

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so we have that ready for you
to uh take you off air, all

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right, yeah, and if we
have to take you off air and rejoin

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the show, that's what we'll do. And right now, wait wait wait

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here is here? Is serious?
Okay? Cool? Okay, Just so

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you're aware, people were listening to
this part of the conversation on the live

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stream. Oh all right, all
right, I'm just letting you know.

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And also they can hear it on
the phone line. So we have he's

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available under Sam Justice under well,
I don't want to say his name,

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but his sky name is available now
yeah, it's it's this green one here.

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Then get you into this. No
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don't don't do that don't do that. I got it, okay, because

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that'll just confuse But but but but
the one that I sent you before is

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a different one. Okay, in
that case, this is a this is

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a different Sam Justice Okay, so
that's that's so. Do you want me

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to send it to you? Yeah, put it in the share contact,

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right, I'm sharing contact right now, right there, I just sent it

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that new one, all right,
let me go to that and get it.

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Yeah, there's a green one.
There's a red one in my end.

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I don't know what colors at your
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green to me also, So yeah, okay, the green one is good,

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the good one for me, I
don't know. All right, hang

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on, So this one that you
just sent should be all right. Just

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tell him he's going to see a
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I had hooked him up before without
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So this means technically speaking, come
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I figured I had it all covered
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you know. Yeah, yeah,
it was just I got confused by that,

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no problem. Uh. And just
so you know, still people are

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hearing us, So they're hearing this
happen as we're trying to pull together the

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uh. Isn't this exciting to know
what the behind the scenes stuff is.

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Isn't this the great part people,
those of you listening, that's what they've

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been missing all this time. I
am right, This is what you miss

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when when I'm like not there and
everybody's going, why is you late?

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Because of this stuff? Right now
when I'm typing stuff, I'm typing while

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i'm talking, just so you guys
know. See, and now we have

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Okay, so the green one which
is litt See, I could have looked

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on here and seen which one was
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have added them both and said screw
it. Anyways, let's see if we

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got him, and I'll take us
off air basically as soon as it adds

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him. He's being called right now, cool Alex, Hello, there you

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are. Okay, we are not
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are on air right this second.
So I'm gonna take us off of the

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stream real fast, so you guys
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But yeah, this is a good
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guest who I've had on in the
past, but it has been a while.

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I'm very excited to have him back. People. I'm sure some of

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you will be aware of who he
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talking about a lot of interesting things
things. Really glad to have him

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back from Outside the Box TV.
We have Alex answer. Glad to be

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back eron. Yeah. I think
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back in August twenty twelve. Yeah, wow, that's wild. Yeah,

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it's I mean, that's the way
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it was a year ago to me, I know that means it was like

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three or four years. So that's
the way that goes. But I've been

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over the years. I always try
to follow your stuff. You do a

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really good job of documenting your life, honestly, doing kind of like the

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video blog thing with all the different
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being very candid and posting it.
And I always find your videos not just

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about you know, whether you're talking
about China and Russia, or you're talking

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about racism, or you're talking about
problems in the alternative or solar maximum things

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like this, whether it's that sort
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yourself. I love it, man. I really like and respect your material

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and you so thanks for being here
man. Well I appreciate that. And

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I've heard this website before and it's
my first time checking it out. So

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you know, I haven't done interviews
in a while. I did take a

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few years off, but with the
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felt like because I've been anticipating this
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so this was definitely the time to
get active again. So I've definitely

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been really active in the last couple
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year hiatus. So went from urban
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to live in Costa County, to
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to living urban again. Yeah,
yeah, it's a wild you're not and

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you are not in Portland now,
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I've spent some time in Colorado also, But I don't know what my

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plan is going to be long term, if I'm going to be off grid

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again, you know. But the
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I don't think is necessarily ideal unless
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you want to talk about what would
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I'm not set up for that,
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be the vast majority of the people
I think that listen to me. Are

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urban with some off gritters. But
what I do know is that I worked

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really hard to raise awareness of the
plight of off gritters in America for a

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long long time, and people really
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there's going to be a lot of
people, just like with COVID, rushing

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to go off grid. But they're
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challenges because while they're you know,
going about their lives and not really being

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active in the loss of their freedoms, you know, they're not really prepared

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to deal with what could be come
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I'm not predicting the end of the
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just like a mainstream topic now,
and Tucker Carlson talking about the sun could

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erupt. And I'm not a fan
of Tucker Carlson, but I see you

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know, and so yeah, we
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I'm glad that you're not someone that
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guy hypnotize people so many people in
the last couple of years without realizing that

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he was just insulting. Alex Jones
ten years ago fifteen years ago and all

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the nine to eleven truthers and now
he's like their hero. It's, yeah,

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so anywhere you'd like to start,
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people will just like lap up and
how they will take in a guy like

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Tucker Carlson and not give him a
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all these years and he's continuing to
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uh, he'll pull certain cards out, like he's catering to the right wing

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demographics. That's his that's his audience, right, so he'll he'll pander to

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them and and pull out the anti
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we hate China. But then when
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all this recent business with his interview
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of Putin and Russia's the greatest country
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more like that, and we should
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it's just somewhat humorous but ridiculous to
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China. But I'm not saying China
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the Russia that I don't know,
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where we're at. It's like,
how are people It's hard to understand where

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people are coming from when they're consuming
this stuff. Uh, where are you

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out on that? What do you
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who are into this stuff, Alex. As far as like some news that

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I'll be reporting in the near future, I'll have a lot of stuff posted

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on my sub stack that I don't
have memorized right now. But there's plenty

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of articles talking about geopolitically, you
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let's see Tucker Cralson interviewing Putin and
the role that Elon Musk is playing with

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some of these narratives is its own
discussion. And that's another thing Elon Musk

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is promoting. It seems to the
algorithm a lot of violent videos showing all

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different types of extremely violent like life
threatening assaults, and this is the type

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of stuff that can really whip people
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certain racial group attacking another racial group. But yeah, the Russia worship is

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is a complex issue talked about it
for years, and so anybody that is

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warning about Russia as a threat as
seen as the enemy. There are people

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out there, like I don't want
to mention names, but people that are

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you know, everything that they put
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and if there is some sort of
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say that it's going to be a
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the US blamed on Russia. So
it's really interesting. I don't know whether

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they're Russian agents. I think that's
an overstep, but people act like they

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are. There's a long list of
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and maybe sometimes they did it for
the money, like AMTV and others

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that for years were super pro Russia
in really upscene ways to level in which

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their videos aren't even up anymore,
to the degree in which so I interviewed

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a person I don't know how deep
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like you probably already aware of it
that's had visions of this country being attacked.

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And I even took that interview for
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too close to the truth, and
people don't want to believe that that can

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happen. But right now there's just
a lot of articles obviously about China and

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Taiwan, and articles about China having
brain weapons. We'll talk more about that

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later, but I'm just kind of
gradually getting back into this because somebody can.

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Most people, they respond to the
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as like it really aggravates their mental
health. And I do think that there

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is a way that you can look
at this stuff without going crazy. That

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spirituality is needed, and there is
a lot of I'm very much you know

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this. If someone's listening this doesn't
know me, I'm very much outside the

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mainstream. I guess you are also
conspiracy truth movement, in which I don't

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listen to most of the major influencers. I guess you can call them that

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now Clyde Lewis, David Ike,
Alex Jones, but I used to,

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and I see a lot of them
as part of this mainstream can cospiracy theory

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and then YouTube and streaming video content
promoting flat earth in some cases, Nazism,

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you know, the great replacement theory, and then ignoring what they've done

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to all these foreign countries and lots
of other issues on top of that,

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so I just see Russia. It's
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this popularity of Russia, and there's
no end insight. I don't know exactly

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when things are going to kick off, but I'll just say this then pause.

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It just seems like things are gonna
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time that even the elite have focused
on for years. So it's not that

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in the world's coming, but that
we'll see major events, likely in the

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next twelve months forty eight months that
will lead to other things. And most

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people were already on that level.
But I've been saying that for at least

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ten years because of the solar cycle
influence, because when the Sun is most

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active, there are more wars,
and there are others that study this before

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me, and so once people in
the conspiracy movement figure this out and it's

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not just solar research, then maybe
they can start looking more at how the

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elite stage events and falls flags at
certain points to get us to react.

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Okay, yeah, it's uh.
The whole World War three, Great Powers

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competition scenarios fascinating to see because it
very much is in the mainstream consciousness.

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It's mainstream media articles all the time
on all of this, it's it's almost

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kind of like divvied up. But
they also they play up the fact that

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this could be leading to a greater
wide war and and they'll talk about the

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different relationships and deals between adversarial nations
and ones that are working together. Where

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are you at with these sort of
like technological arms race situation between the US

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and China. And this gets into
the microchips Taiwan. And you know,

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one of the reasons that China would
go into Taiwan is the TSMC chip plant.

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It's like the most important microprocessor plant
in the world, and that's a

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big part of the conflict. What
do you know about all of that?

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Yeah, that's important, as well
as China's interest in Afghanistan with the mining

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going on there for the lithium.
There's just lots of different things. But

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yeah, that's the relevant issue with
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with Taiwan over Taiwan by twenty twenty
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there. With the chip as far
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interviewed. Foresaw China bringing the microchip
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and he said they would load it
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that's pretty out there. But China
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time that Elon Musk has released his
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that China is building the transformers which
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where this was debated and people called
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China has the upper hand technologically on
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to make a documentary film about this
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has built up China on purpose.
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needs to be put into you know, for lack of a better word,

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an old school Alex Jones style documentary
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years. No one's ever been interested. People always actually back in the day,

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laughed at my concerns about China,
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twenties would be a period in which
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pull this off, and if not, the next sore cycle, which is

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the mid twenty thirties, could still
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do it in this sore cycle.
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this point, so I don't doubt
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of out in the open. So
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videos. It just seems like it's
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like what's coming sooner than later?
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into our grid, and so there's
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threatening our country every single day.
I'm pretty sure it's not fake news.

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the articles anymore. I haven't been
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I'm actually you're catching me now as
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twenty twenty five, it would be
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about electromagnetic weapons being used in twenty
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you know, it'd be good to
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to go back and find well not
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and get old information from the archives
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the Internet is changing. So when
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noticed it, it's maybe harder.
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don't know what's going on with AI, but I will say this, as

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far as a believer in the supernatural, I'm seeing articles now where it says

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chat GPT says that it's in the
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circle, that a sour cycle that
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along with the wars and the unrest, but the paranormal or ghosts or perceptions

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of things like that for whatever reason. But yes, there's more perceptions of

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paranormal experiences when the sun is most
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chat GPT being an entity or an
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Antichrist and stuff like that. So
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the room, I don't know.
It just seems like it's part of a

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go ahead. It seems like a
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itself as an entity through maybe dozens
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with chat gpt and this they keeps
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a fallen angel. And there's a
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posting a conversation, Freeman Fly posted
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wild that this is like a perfectly
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over whether these algorithmic models, these
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was the guy who was famously working
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Google because he was open about he
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was working on Lambda was actually sentient
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you interviewed that famous person that was
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yeah, he came on the show. I didn't know that. Yeah,

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yeah, So I mean that that's
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he definitely believes it. He's somebody
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a lot of time talking to this
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alive. So it's just wild to
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then you've got all the behind the
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we're all using. You're talking about
Elon Musk. What is he up to?

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over the timeline. It's like a
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like I have to like when I
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my feet, I have to scroll
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I'm not watching when of these stop
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on with that? Is there a
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it just like Musk is letting his
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care. Is it a laissez faire
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more sinister? Well, as far
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of different things. I'm not sure
what start. I will say that I've

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seen a lot of violence on Twitter
that I think is intentional, Like,

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I don't think it's accidental. It's
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made some videos about this, and
I don't really reach out many people anymore.

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I'm heavily shadow band anyway, long
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my comments. I've dealt with at
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then other forms are just sabotage that
I can't explain. It's all very very

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creepy. So there's been a lot
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and it's like now that I do
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it, something that can excite incite
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really see people saying anything like I
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guy knocking out a white woman,
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people, and it's like treading on
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like a bunch of psychopaths, or
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meuntioned a white woman, I'm like, and this is happening on Elon Musk

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Twitter, and I know in my
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an accident. Put in the algorithmic
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AI to stop that. So when
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kind of foresaw dystopian future where people
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thing. I see a lot of
the modern era, the ystopia that we're

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going into in one in which they
arm evil people with evil weapons to take

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each other out, kind of like
a Perche scenario. Not a big fan

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of those movies, but I think
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the rise of chat GPT, which
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really bad things. Then there's the
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being dropped on the Internet. With
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articles saying that everything could be hacked
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it's it's wild. I mean,
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also got the other social media thing
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what TikTok And that's famously a Chinese
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due to national security risks. There's
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also just another one of these stupid
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as well. Uh. Do you
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on TikTok in the past. I
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like it. A lot of people
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like the attention they get. Also, I think, without realizing the security

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concerns, the immorality of the by
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people they put in the weaker camps, and so for people to use the

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technology for hits and clicks when it's
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just dystopian by itself. So even
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personally won't use it. But I
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a critic of China would be the
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them having a TikTok phone, and
so you know, so I don't have

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it installed. So I think a
lot of people are being let into a

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trap. That part's obvious. But
having said that, I'm not a Trump

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person, I'm totally nonpartisan. I
think that's the first time I'm saying that

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in this podcast. Mainstream conspiracy people
are so partisan Now is so different obviously

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than it was ten years ago.
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old shows anymore that I used to
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few, and people have lost their
appreciation for the independent thinker. Also in

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recent years, some people are still
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If they really like a talk show
host or whatever, they're gonna have

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the bookmark their site, subscribe to
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I see you have T shirts there, you know, and I've been

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doing this for fifteen or twenty years. I need to expand and maybe create

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some T shirts, you know.
And I don't know if the world's going

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to be destroyed or our grid's going
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we should, I think, prepare
to keep moving forward with our content.

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out a lot of content for ten years

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because I didn't back it up.
It's all gone, the Patriot radio stuff.

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missing a lot of podcasts from a

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lot of websites that have done a
lot of shows on So moving forward,

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hopefully my work on the solar flares
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because that's probably the most important content. And if we look at the

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news right now, we could see
if there was a couple X class swar

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flares, and already I'm noting some
pretty extreme crime news. I don't know

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if you're noticing anything specific, right, I mean the crime thing is perennial.

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on Twitter. And also, yeah, you're talking about how long you've been

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doing this. I mean, that's
what I appreciate. And I'm glad to

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have you on to talk now because
I know you're somebody that's been around for

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a while. You've seen all the
crazy things that have happened, the changes,

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the about faces so many people.
And I really, again, I

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have so much respect for you because
you're one of like I think probably a

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handful of people honestly, I can
think of that has not changed that has

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not like in some bizarre way gone
off on some weird tangent, or they

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have become racist, or they've done
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know, Trump sick of fans waving
the flag for Trump. There's just been

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so many things that have happened.
And you talking about those posts where you

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know clearly it's like a post that's
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here's one race coming after another race. And it's always pretty much always,

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from what I can tell, it's
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know this race is coming after you
the great replacement all of that that's been

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actually for years, I saw that
creep into the alternative and it stewed around

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and everybody was sharing all that sort
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of the point where again our friend
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before he even was even let go
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he was doing it there. So
it's just wild to see so many

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people have fallen for that stuff over
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It's brought us to where we are. How has this happened? Alexa?

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What is happening? Any thoughts on
all this? I mean, I

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just going on on that one,
but I'm still if there was more support,

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if there are people listening now that
want to hear me talk more about

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my analysis on whether it called demonic
or the ARCon hijack or the psychopathic for

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the non supernatural, just looking at
like psychologically, what's going on. It

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needs to be discussed. It's like
an unrecognized form of mental illness. It's

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not something that the mental health field
recognizes. The people that develop psychosis and

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thinking people that don't look like them
or people that have a certain genetic code

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out of a part of a specific
conspiracy, and so for me to push

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back against that. You know,
there was someone that was a new listener,

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we'll leave it at that, a
new listener who I communicate with,

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and then he hears me share about
things that I've experienced in this body and

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it's like, no, you look
like this, you don't look like that.

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You haven't had those experiences. And
it's actually very frustrating that this Actually

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I've dealt with this NonStop for years, this type of like ridiculous argument with

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people where I'm just bearing testimony,
not trying to play victim. I'm saying

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these things have made it difficult when
I've been off grid or dealt with strangers

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for them to see past the exterior. No matter what I write and what

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I say, comebine with shadow banning, and it's real. And there are

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people out there acting like they're professional
victims when they have like a great deal

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of followers. So I've just tried
to talk rationally with them and point them

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to actual facts and stats and numbers, small numbers, large numbers over here,

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you know. And so some people
are going to continue to stay in

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00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:11.759
their own outlook and I can't change
that. I think though, for people

407
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.839
that do appreciate it, they need
to understand that there's a reason there's not

408
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.599
a lot of shows though that go
in that direction. Some people just aren't

409
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.480
strong willed enough, so they go
along with the peer pressure. Some people

410
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.519
aren't really spiritual to begin with,
and they're just parirtting other people's content,

411
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.599
so they don't know how to think
for themselves. And unfortunately, now that

412
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.240
conspiracy theory has gone mainstream, I
saw signs of this with Jesse Ventura and

413
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.119
his show, and there's been other
ways which conspiracy theory has gone mainstream,

414
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.480
with David Wilcock specifically, and then
there's like that that it got into the

415
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.960
QAnon stuff, and then all of
a suddenly they started being featured on streaming

416
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.599
video platforms, which I saw quite
a bit during the COVID lockdown, and

417
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.960
I'm like, wow, here's go
all these conspiracy documentaries. I don't want

418
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.079
to click on any of them.
There's something weird about it, like,

419
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.519
you know, like all these random
voices, why why wouldn't there be voices

420
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.480
I'm familiar with, It's all these
mystery voices, So they definitely want to

421
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.079
want to synic conspiracy theory, and
then they want to control the narrative.

422
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.119
And so if you were to go
what is the mainstream conspiracy theorist, it's

423
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.559
white supremacists, racists pro Trump.
They might not like Alex Jones, but

424
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.680
they're still influenced by Alex Jones or
who Alex Jones is influenced by. They're

425
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.079
still in that web. Even if
they're like, screw Alex Jones, screw

426
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.519
Trump, they may still be in
that web. And then a lot of

427
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.680
these counterfeit nine to eleven truthers,
and I've been telling them, if they

428
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:37.240
don't even know the history of the
regions their governments have destroyed in like periods

429
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.319
in which women were way freer than
now, then they're not really into deep

430
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.559
deep nine eleven truth if they're just
looking at laser beams and Judy Woods.

431
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.720
And I've always avoided that dark side
of neleve in truth, and I've been

432
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.160
chastising the Left a lot more now
that I'm back on k Blexes in Portland,

433
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.640
that the Left should have never let
an ilive in truth go into,

434
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.839
you know, the clutches of the
Alex Jones world. Anyways, you know,

435
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.680
going to sit there and do black
lives matter, but ignore like these

436
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.920
countries being bombed back to the Stone
Age. It's ridiculous. So I'm trying

437
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.839
to politely and then sometimes not so
politely, tell them they're not very awake

438
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.920
and woke. So I'm from Portland. I'm not there now. I want

439
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:21.279
to go back there because he asked
about that. I want to be there,

440
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.839
but I don't have. You see, I spent lots of time on

441
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.079
the air there and energy, and
yet it's like this is okay if you

442
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:31.400
want to talk about it. It's
like this is zombie black ups going on

443
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:37.599
in Portland, deep deep dark spiritual
warfare, like an invasion of the body

444
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:42.160
Stancherds level where people have come up
from all these places because of a stupid

445
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.400
TV show and look looking at it
spiritually intuitively. And then in the news

446
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.519
serial killers and you know, Fox
News has an agenda, but it's all

447
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.400
some of it's true. You know, I don't know what their agenda is

448
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:58.319
with Portland. I don't think it's
benevolent, but anyways, they cover a

449
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.720
lot of what's going on there.
So does Andy, who has his own

450
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.079
agenda, but it has become a
zombie apocalypse, unsafe place where I worry

451
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:10.000
about the elderly, where you have
a higher than average concentration of homeless because

452
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.800
they legalized heroin and meth. I
have a conspiracy attitude, but I don't

453
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:19.960
know that it's a conspiracy that Portland
ended up in the way that it did.

454
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.519
But Portland is a magical place for
people that have spiritual views. I

455
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:30.880
think it has some deep natural earth
energy that especially certain Europeans are drawn to

456
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:36.000
in a country that's basically being taken
over by technology, so they're drawn to

457
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:42.920
that. But there's still just this
Portland has a lot of dark history with

458
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.440
kidnapping and shanghaiing and just like everywhere
else, the rate of the earth,

459
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.480
So basically it has a lot of
witches in it. Now it has good

460
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.039
people in it, but it seems
like the people that I used to reach

461
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.840
were older folks. So again,
there's a lot of con artists there in

462
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:06.159
it now and strippers and only fans
folks, and just an assortment of different

463
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.519
people. I'm not there, but
I don't know if I'm going to be

464
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.679
reading a book in the future,
But I think that the future is taking

465
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.079
our information now that we can transcribe
it with AI before AI kills us.

466
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.199
And I think that, you know, I see you wrote a book,

467
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:22.280
and I have one of those sore
flares, and I want to do more.

468
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.639
I think that we should use AI
to write books so we can leave

469
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:34.559
the next generation with some information before
something happens. And ultimately, I do

470
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.719
think down the line we are dealing
with a solar event, but I don't

471
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.880
think that's going to happen anytime soon. I think that we're going to be

472
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:44.400
done with a whole bunch of craziness
here on Earth, you know, before

473
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:47.679
anything just goes So that could happen, yes, but I still think that

474
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:55.519
we're gonna Yeah, yeah, I'm
not convinced that I'm personally presently convinced we're

475
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.000
going to experience this World War three
scenario. As much as that troubles people,

476
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.360
I see nothing currently that says that's
not going to happen. I'm waiting,

477
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.079
but at present it looks like we're
a full steam ahead towards something.

478
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.000
Yeah, it's crazy. It's again. It's everywhere. It's everywhere you look

479
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:17.360
in the mainstream, and they're always
talking about this. They do want us

480
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.440
affray to AI, So I just
want to say that we shouldn't be super

481
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.880
paranoid. I can see, like
on the algorithm, they put lots of

482
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:29.559
fear AI content out there and constantly
Put's going to strike us. So I

483
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.400
could see from the perspective they're doing
propaganda. They want us afraid. But

484
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:36.320
I'm not convinced those are fake headlines. You know, did he or did

485
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.599
he not say that we shouldn't just
be numb to it just because we believe

486
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:43.119
Puttin's a good guy. That's what's
really scary about the zombie apocalypse. You

487
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.400
and I are living, and now
that people are so like pro Putin.

488
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.079
He could be threatening us all day
long and building up big weapons, and

489
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.280
they're they're convinced on this one.
Their chips are on the table. He

490
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.000
really is their daddy. He really
is a good guy, and it's going

491
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:59.559
to stop the new word order,
and he's making threats and the missiles are

492
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:05.199
going up and we're just relaxed.
And then they're hacking into critical infrastructure still

493
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:10.079
in the data of city employees in
certain districts in America. So that's not

494
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:14.760
officially the Russian government. It's hackers, but it could be the Russian government.

495
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.360
We don't know. What we do
know is we're just seeing an increase

496
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:22.440
in this. And then the FAA
a couple of years ago, you know,

497
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.719
they shut down under mysterious circumstances.
And then today AT and T shut

498
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.639
down. It's either from a solar
event or from some sort of coding error.

499
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.159
And then of course we're hearing about
the grid all the time being hacked.

500
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.719
Now that they've set up this grid
that can that's run by computers,

501
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.480
it's so now, it's so ironic
that in a matter of years trying to

502
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:46.880
can just hack into that grid as
if it's an accident. It's wild to

503
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.360
see, like so much of our
world has been digitized. We live much

504
00:37:52.360 --> 00:38:01.280
more digitized lives. All of these
things that we do through internet have changed

505
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.480
so much. And we're talking about
World War three, we're talking about the

506
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.800
rise of artificial intelligence, large language
models, everybody knows about them now.

507
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:22.159
It just seems like part of this
new war will certainly be digital, if

508
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:28.719
not like a large part of it, and that perhaps all of this craziness

509
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:36.719
we're seeing online now is like the
first sort of phase of maybe the you

510
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:38.920
know, the call not to call
before the storm. I don't even know

511
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.639
what to call it, But this
is before things really heat up and get

512
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:46.519
really turned into any sort of official
war or anything like that. I mean,

513
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:54.480
I can't help but believe that there's
all kinds of targeted propaganda coming from

514
00:38:54.519 --> 00:39:01.519
everywhere now, and these AI systems
being used as the been to craft and

515
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:07.760
propagate this propaganda on the behest at
the behest of of everybody. I think

516
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:12.480
everybody's out there making their own propaganda, whether it be the government of China,

517
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.599
the government of Russia, the government
of the United States, the government

518
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.840
of Israel, they're all a they
all have these tools, and they all

519
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:31.519
have this We all have this shared
collective online existence that these sorts of campaigns

520
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:37.079
can be inserted into. So I
think it's crazy to not think that that's

521
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:42.960
going on, likely at a very
large scale. But any thoughts on that

522
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:52.639
concept at all, Alex, Yeah, as far as the the the high

523
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.239
tech reality we're going into, so
yeah, So I don't think that we're

524
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:59.159
gonna be able to sort sour flare
kills out anytime soon, but it's going

525
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.840
to come at some point that I'm
convinced. It's just I don't think that

526
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.880
we're going to be rescued because I
do believe in God and that we're here

527
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.800
for a reason. So I do
believe that there is like some purpose by

528
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.519
the way spiritually and why we're even
here and experiencing all this, that it's

529
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.800
not an accident. So yeah,
I think that we all intuitively know that

530
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:21.880
we're gonna be dealing with this high
technology invasiveness, and so we're dealing with

531
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.360
the rise in deep fake porn,
which is dystopian for women, which I

532
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:29.119
talked about in a few videos and
why that freaks me out, and so

533
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.679
like this totally unsafe environment has been
like set up now on so many different

534
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:40.519
levels in urban environments. I see
the damage that on a personal level,

535
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:45.960
being ethnic going off grid and being
in placed in Colorado knowing that they were

536
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:52.239
super radicalized towards white supremacy and Trump
that no matter what I researched about China,

537
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:53.880
like, it was not a good
idea for me to talk to any

538
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:58.800
of those folks. And most people
will not be in that situation. They'd

539
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.519
be talking to them imbearers with them
going to their bars, and I knew

540
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.559
to stay out of their bars.
And after a few years to take off

541
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.000
from that spot, you know,
and it took a couple of years to

542
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.039
get over it. But all that, all that wouldn't have happened if we

543
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:15.320
were doing with ten years ago,
fifteen years ago without that type of deliberate

544
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.239
interference because people were so gun ho
about just not liking Hillary, you know,

545
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.199
which I don't like, but because
they were just so gun ho in

546
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.119
that they didn't want to face the
truth about the Russian influence, about like

547
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:32.000
the fake news in twenty fourteen and
fifteen regarding all immigrants. Now, having

548
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.320
said that, I have told stories
about trying to reach out to woke folks,

549
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.559
woke folks and to BLM, and
I've seen their dark side up close

550
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:45.360
and personal for people that have confused
me for like a mainstream leftist. I've

551
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:50.239
gone to an anti racist meeting and
trying to share my experience with them as

552
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.159
a media person, and I've seen
these people hiss at me like, you

553
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:59.000
know, like they were possessed,
you know. So I understand sometimes when

554
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.679
there's a backlash woke movement, because
some of these people are just absolutely violent

555
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.880
and crazy unstable, like the Black
Lives Matter movement. Aspects of an importland,

556
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.840
there might be peaceful aspects of it. But there's a dark side too,

557
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.159
that's like, are our issues matter
yours don't, And things may change

558
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:20.000
right now with Gaza, some people's
hearts may be opening up because of the

559
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:27.719
atrocities that they're seeing, you know. Now that's another thing. So I'll

560
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.559
just say this, we saw a
lot of sacrifice energy. I think with

561
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:36.679
the eclipse. You know, when
the eclipse happened after the seventh, so

562
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.760
we're coming up on eclipse in April. I don't know what's going to happen,

563
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:43.760
but it seems that if we saw
something happen around the eclipse, and

564
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:49.400
then in between the eclipses, we
saw the strike on Yemen which instigated you

565
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:53.639
know, the conflict there with the
Houthis that was on one eleven, twenty

566
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.320
twenty four. So does it take
a genius to figure out there's a pattern

567
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:02.440
here that maybe something's I mean around
April and so lots of focuses on this.

568
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.960
I'm not gonna be viewing because I'm
a little superstitious. I'm not going

569
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.800
to go out and view the eclipse
with the glasses like everybody else. Instead,

570
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.199
I'm going to be monitoring world events
and making podcasts and maybe doing some

571
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:23.280
meditation, But some people have advised
me that are into astrology that it's not

572
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.320
necessarily a time or which we want
to go out. And during the last

573
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.519
eclipse, when I was recording a
podcast, I noticed the police were chasing

574
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.239
somebody passed where I live, or
normally that hasn't happened. So I already

575
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.880
knew that there was a likelihood that
there would be a spike in crime that

576
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.480
day. And so, yeah,
this might be new information for people to

577
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:46.199
hear, but yeah, these are
as we get closer to the eclipse.

578
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:51.960
For some people it might be a
spiritual time and for others there might just

579
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:58.559
be an eruption chaos in more wars
and conflicts. Yes, yes, I

580
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:04.159
mean the ass respect of the solar
maximum and solar flares and all that.

581
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:08.360
That's a big it's a huge part
of what you do now. And so

582
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:14.599
would you say that all of your
material you're always having that in mind with

583
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:23.960
all of your presentations. Yeah,
but I've been discussing the soar flares consistently

584
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.920
since two thousand and nine. But
I'd say there's been a consistent theme with

585
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.199
most of my content, if that's
what you're getting at, Like, there's

586
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:38.079
there's a consistency with discussing the paranormal
possessions sowre flares, getting more into the

587
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:42.960
eclipses. I checked out a book
recently and the clips to learn more about

588
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.880
it, because I just have this
feeling. See, I had some unfortunate

589
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:52.039
things happen around twenty seventeen around the
eclipse, and so I've actually personally experienced,

590
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:57.679
I would say, experiences with other
human beings that I would call possessed.

591
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.079
The other thing is that we see
news now but the sun erupting with

592
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:07.000
the strongest sword flares since twenty seventeen
in September. The common theme there is

593
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:14.119
the eclipses somehow are causing the sun
or are becoming more active with the sun

594
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:20.480
somehow, someway. So September twenty
seventeen, strong swordflare and an eclipse,

595
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:29.039
and now whatever's happened in April.
And so the movie Civil Wars coming out,

596
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.679
someone made me aware of that.
So maybe it's possible that the social

597
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:37.360
engineers want people thinking about Civil war. My whole thing with the Civil War

598
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.519
is they're trying to create in people's
minds. You don't have to actually fight

599
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.760
in it, but some people are
being duped into that mindset that they literally

600
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:46.639
have to fight in a civil war
and it's come with their doorstep. And

601
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:51.320
really I'm more freaked out about World
War III Red Dawn situation. I just

602
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:55.519
rewatched the original Red Dawn for the
first time in years. That's what I'm

603
00:45:55.559 --> 00:46:00.079
concerned about. And the zombie apocalypse
is what happens when there's no foot fo

604
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.159
and of course, you know,
to say it again, I'm concerned about

605
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:08.679
human human trafficking, women basically being
disappeared and sold on black market, and

606
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:13.239
I'm actually shocked that I live in
a world that this isn't like normal conversation.

607
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.840
We have a movie called Sound of
Freedom, which I'm not a big

608
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:17.880
fan of. One of the actors
has some cute on leanings, but I

609
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.880
gave it a chance watching on Amazon. It's not bad, but what really

610
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.320
is going on and could be going
on is far worse than what's been depicted

611
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.079
there. So the fact is Americans
are not actually ready for what actually could

612
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.400
be coming, and then when that
happens, Like I said, for those

613
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.039
of us I see where you are. You're in California. For people that

614
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:43.039
are in urban environments where there's a
dense population, where people are not prepared.

615
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.679
It's it's going to be a challenge. So I don't wish these things

616
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.800
on anybody, but yeah, so
we'll we'll see what's going to happen the

617
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.360
next couple of years. But yeah, we'll talk more in the future video

618
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:59.519
about the China mind weapons. So
not only do we have people concerned about

619
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.559
mind contry from their own government and
gang stocking, I think maybe they should

620
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.079
be more concerned about some of these
articles that are emerging. So it's because

621
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.559
of that reason than others that rationally
nobody should be on TikTok, and people

622
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.079
that are on TikTok should be educated
about what China's doing and about how if

623
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:21.000
they're on TikTok, that they're engaging
in immorality because they're giving that website their

624
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.280
time and energy and their data.
And so I think a lot of young

625
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.480
women have been let into a trap, unfortunately, and they're thinking that they

626
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.960
can use TikTok to make a lot
of money showing their beauty and how hot

627
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.719
they are. And I've always viewed
these cell phones and apps is just leaking

628
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.320
their data on purpose for the day, for the day they come to collect

629
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.199
on the nation's debt. I know
that's so horrifying to say so evil,

630
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.239
some would say, but really,
what's the evil me or the type of

631
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:50.760
violent content that's out there in the
mainstream media or pornography or video games.

632
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:52.559
I think that's the evil thing.
I think in the end, all my

633
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.639
concerns have been have been rooted in
rationale. And maybe the women of twenty

634
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.800
seventy five will agree with me if
things go down so way, and they

635
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:02.480
won't be like, wow, what
a jerk. But the truth is,

636
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.039
in the modern neo feminism world,
in place like Portland, I've met women

637
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.840
that will throw the drink in my
face literally metaphorically and be like, man,

638
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:15.360
you're crazy. We don't need your
help. We need we need somebody

639
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:19.239
to protect us from you, like
literally, like got a bad, bad

640
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.320
night I had twenty eleven. Here
I am, I'm talking geopolitics with some

641
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.400
you know, TRETI use my nice
language, some nice lady at the bar,

642
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.559
and it didn't turn out. Well, yeah, I got it.

643
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:37.039
You know what I always find interesting
is again this crowd that hates China.

644
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.320
Anything about China's horrible. And again
I'm not saying China is wonderful by any

645
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.880
stres that's another point. Yeah,
but they've got China tunnel vision, where

646
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:50.840
China is like the ultimate enemy and
I guess there's no other enemies. It's

647
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.480
sort of the same contingent I feel
And maybe I'm wrong in this, but

648
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:59.360
I feel like it's the same sort
of contingent that will kind of gleefully talk

649
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.760
about civil war here in the States
as though they want it to happen,

650
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.159
like they're they're looking forward to.
It's like, yes, the first one

651
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.079
was so great. I guess they
just can't wait for another one to happen,

652
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:14.239
you know what I mean? And
then my concept is when when when

653
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.239
I see this, it's like,
well, if we were to get into

654
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.559
any kind of civil war, let
alone like a serious protracted one, can

655
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:28.039
you imagine like the state of our
country what it would be in And then

656
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:35.000
might that open the door to China
exploiting us in some way? Again?

657
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.519
I mean you talk about a full
scale like ground invasion and stuff like.

658
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.639
I mean, if that were the
idea, maybe be a little easier if

659
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.480
we kind of, uh gave them
the soft landing by killing a bunch of

660
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.760
ourselves off first, you know what
I mean? You ever think about that

661
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:58.000
one? As you know, with
the anti China sentiments, and I'm definitely

662
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.519
not anti Chinese people, and that
was right in recent years for the COVID

663
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.760
thing, sure, and so that's
unfortunate and some people have been harmed as

664
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.519
a result of that. And then
the event of World War three, many

665
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:14.039
Asians would face unfortunately a certain level
of discrimination in some areas because of just

666
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:19.320
the fear, especially if China's attacking
the grid. So I'm concerned about them

667
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.880
now. It's like Tucker Carlson in
the right, They're gonna be I predicted

668
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:28.400
this also years ago, that one
day they would all be talking about World

669
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.960
War three. I'm sure I can
find clips of it. They'd all be

670
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.360
talking about World War three at the
same time, and it'd be a certain

671
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.280
nationalistic narrative, not really like how
did this come about to be? How

672
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.679
did they end up with these weapons? Let's let's let's look at the receipts,

673
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.519
let's let's let's look at the web
here and figure out just what happened.

674
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.360
You know. But no, we're
not gonna do that. We're gonna

675
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.639
act like it's kinda popped up like
a crazy jack in the box. And

676
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.199
then uh, you know, we
got to smack it down with our military

677
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:59.880
industrial complex, and even top Gun
was very staged them having Iran as one

678
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:05.000
of the nemesisis in the sequel,
and then Val Kilmer being sworn to secrecy

679
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:09.320
as he wrote in his memoir book, and then of course right after the

680
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:14.599
movie came out, we saw increased
tensions with Iran and the events in Yemen.

681
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:22.079
So yeah, the anti China sentiment's
very controlled, and it leaves out

682
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:29.559
Russia quite often. As I said, there's a saying pro Russia worship like,

683
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.760
uh, it's it's over the top. And I've talked about it for

684
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:38.480
years before it was school back during
the Bush period, and then highlighting pictures

685
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:44.159
of Bush vacationing with Putin, and
just like I said, interviewing that guy

686
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.239
a long time ago, by his
vision of an Antichrist figure coming out of

687
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:53.239
Russia, China bringing the microship earth
changes, a major earthquake in San Francisco

688
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:59.320
before the invasion, major stuff happening
in the Mississippi River, sounds like crazy

689
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:04.960
militia active. And then knowing that
just discussing it scared the guy too that

690
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.400
discussed it with me several times,
doesn't want to have anything to do with

691
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:12.840
it, and so it's definitely not
an easy cross to carry, not a

692
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:16.679
popular one. But I've been filling
the whole year all these years. By

693
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:20.599
the way, I took it down
for three years, this interview and talks

694
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.880
about it and anything to do with
China because of just bullshit that I oh,

695
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.079
I'm sorry, stuff that I had
to deal with other people that came

696
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:34.639
from the Internet anyway, and so
I had to well, it really concerned

697
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:44.639
me that Google and YouTube. There's
a lot of issues going on, like

698
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:50.880
I said, with the emerging technologies
like Okay and bit shoot and rumble,

699
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.000
a lot of people have left for
these other alternative platforms, and I'm not

700
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.719
going to join the platforms because it's
so swayed in a particular direction. You

701
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.840
can even take a look at the
anels that are promoted on bit shoot.

702
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.039
But yeah, I appreciate, I
apologize for the I don't know if we're

703
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:07.719
live on a No, No,
you're okay, man, don't don't read

704
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.800
it. Yeah, we're good.
We're good. Now, you've been you've

705
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:15.159
been great, man, You're really
Yeah, it's been great to have you

706
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.239
here. And as I was telling
you before the show started, there is

707
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.519
a second hour that I will be
continuing with. Did you want to stay

708
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.000
over for Uncle the podcast when we
continue, Alex, or did you need

709
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.239
to get going here? Oh?
Is that right now? Yeah? Yeah,

710
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.159
yea, We're gonna switch over now, believable, that's not We've been

711
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:35.920
through about an hour. Okay,
would you like to stay for that?

712
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:39.360
I'm okay, I'm we can continue. Yeah, okay, great, great,

713
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:44.159
Thank you very much for that.
And I mean, before we head

714
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:49.400
out from the age of Transitions here, why don't you just take some time

715
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.199
to let people know, Alex where
your material is now, maybe your YouTube

716
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.320
channel, any new places that they
can find outside the box, TV and

717
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.400
everything else you might be doing.
Yeah, alexansory dot substack dot com,

718
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:09.800
there's YouTube channels, but people should
set to the newsletter. Yeah, I'm

719
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:15.360
gonna be focusing on sore content and
geopolitics for a couple months. I got

720
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.360
other topics also. I think it's
boring talking about the same thing, but

721
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:23.559
I believe there's a season to talk
about certain topics, and I have an

722
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:29.440
interest in paranormal topics and maybe I'll
do more off grid videos in the future.

723
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.519
But all YouTube dot com, slash
OTBTV News is the name of the

724
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.559
main channel. Okay, great,
great, Yes, Alex answer man,

725
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.760
thank you again so much for being
here. Again, we'll just hang out

726
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.400
for the next show. But right
before we go to break. For people

727
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:54.199
searching on YouTube, it's also at
OBT Yeah, OTB TV News on YouTube

728
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.320
as well. So the new AT
system that you can search on YouTube,

729
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:02.519
you can find Alex on there.
Alex, I'm sorry OTB TV News and

730
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:07.920
uh yeah, but if you use
the APT thing, it's o TB OTB

731
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.880
TV News. Yes, there we
go. That's what it is on YouTube.

732
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.039
I just want to make sure that
was read correctly, so that because

733
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:17.360
some people use this AT thing on
YouTube. Now there you go, yeah,

734
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:22.079
exactly, yes, okay, great, great, all right, So

735
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.800
yes, alex Anstree. Uh,
there's a guest tonight on the Age of

736
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Transitions. Uh. The website O
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the brilliant author of the War State, understood these trends professionally for many years,

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get on the air of Jelly dot
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751
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Jelly dot com or Jump and we
are not responsible. We're getting supidity which

752
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might ensue. Thank you, nuclear
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753
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Think of nuclear weapons and other things
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756
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do you remember that time when Benjamin
Fulford said that an Asian secret society

757
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:07.199
was going to dispatch ninjas to take
down the Illuminati. Oh that's interesting,

758
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.199
Yeah in the quatoon. Yeah did
that ever work out too good? No,

759
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:15.719
it didn't, didn't didn't. But
here on Ocelli dot Com Radio Network,

760
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.880
things work out a bit better,
don't they Much better? I mean,

761
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is and understanding about the programs,
The programs much clear, getting live

762
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:32.760
people into it. They really have
a good conversation going much better, much

763
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:37.119
better scene. I say, forget
Benjamin Fulford and his ninjas and listen to

764
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:42.639
the Ocelli dot Com Radio Network.
I agree, it's straight to the point,

765
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straight talk, and I like that
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Morning, Morning, Morning, Morning, Horny. This is a Moneaseye podcast

775
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coreat Goat Go wait here. We'll
pick up your d hands your cellphones and

776
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:42.960
hai me in. Listen to Uncle
the podcast. Watch out. If you're

777
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:47.440
sitting down for this or if you're
standing up, the better get ready for

778
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:58.000
this because it's gonna hit their head
drums, Uncle the podcast. You are

779
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.119
listening to Uncle the broadcast. Man
name is Aaron. I'm a nephew.

780
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:03.639
He needs to start the show.
Uncle. Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

781
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:11.239
We are three twenty four the night
and and Alex is on the line.

782
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.559
Yeah that's right, man, I
have a guest on the line and his

783
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:21.400
name's Alex. Shoot the shoot the
talk and take it over. You take

784
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:26.480
it away, I guess take it
away? All right? What do you

785
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:32.440
want to know? Uncle? Our
guest? This is interesting Alex Anstree.

786
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:38.239
He like myself. He had a
cable access TV show. He's talking.

787
01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:42.719
I thought he's supposed to say that. Well, okay, are you asking

788
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:49.119
him? Alex cast yeah, sidekick, I am pay attention. I forget

789
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:56.000
Hello, you're on here. Hello, not me, it's you. It's

790
01:07:56.039 --> 01:08:00.280
so you're aware. Ox, you
are you and I'm me. Okay you

791
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:09.519
want you want some background or yeah, I'm gonna escapee. I'm an escapey

792
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:13.519
slave from Portlandia, Yeah, the
city that's been taken over by the zombie

793
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:17.800
apocalypse. So I have I've taken
up my microchip and I am a free

794
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:25.399
range humanoid who is not obeying the
rules of the Matrix. So it's upset

795
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:30.039
the sentinels and they've they've come after
me here and there, so I got

796
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:32.840
to protect myself. I'm kind of
like Morpheus in the Matrix right now,

797
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:39.720
basically narrating the fall society and yeah, so yeah, let's let's narrate exactly

798
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:45.359
what's wrong before everything collapses and get
our message out in a time machine in

799
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:49.720
a in a time capsule to the
future generations. Uh yeah, run a

800
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:53.680
mission from God. But yeah,
I am an escape slave, so I

801
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:58.359
know a little bit about escaping an
urban environment and being homeless and traveling around

802
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:02.479
in a RV and living off great
in the desert without sanitation and living with

803
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:08.840
crazy people with guns without having a
gun myself. Lots of fun experiences in

804
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:13.840
the desert of Coastia County, Colorado. That's an interesting place if someone wants

805
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:18.760
to it, does live live on
their own land illegally and go just just

806
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:21.520
put a ten out there and have
the county come out and be like,

807
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:25.800
Okay, you gotta leave, because
that's what I'll do now. In Coastia

808
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.560
County, that run you out for
your land unless you of course, unless

809
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:35.079
you own it. No no septic
systems. They chose the rules. They

810
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:39.039
have people. You know, people
used to camp on their land, and

811
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:44.199
this is in Coastia County, Colorado, which is in the southern Yeah,

812
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:46.960
and I understand that they worry about
some people trashing it and some people do

813
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:53.199
pollute and disrespect the land. That
is true. So but the problem is

814
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.680
there's so many homeless now, you
know. And so that was a solution

815
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:00.319
for me, was to go to
Costia County in twenty fifteen, and it

816
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:03.279
was right around the time they were
kicking people out their land, and it

817
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.960
seemed like I was meant to be
there to fill with my cam quorder and

818
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:11.319
then to put it on YouTube,
and then it became mainstream news and we

819
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.640
were trying to get kind of a
movement going, and it seems like long

820
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:18.000
story short, it seems like there
were almost some ancient provocateurs that came in

821
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:25.640
that wanted to almost radicalize it towards
a sovereign citizen thing. And then say,

822
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.760
one guy said that he was a
judge of a Continental Congress of the

823
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:33.359
US. He really had no title, so he was misrepresenting himself as some

824
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:42.000
sort of legal person or a judge. And so eventually that guy ended up

825
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.960
going to Burns, Oregon where the
wildlife Refuge takeover thing took place with Pete

826
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.600
Santilly, that whole famous thing down
there in southern Oregon. So it seems

827
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:55.880
like when you try to step against
the local government, strange stuff can happen

828
01:10:55.880 --> 01:11:00.720
and people can join your little group
that are who they say they are.

829
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.880
So yeah, people are right now
Again, they're going to be fleeing the

830
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:08.880
cities probably if the economy gets even
worse and there's a geopolitical crisis, but

831
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:15.239
there's not a lot of places for
them to go now. So yeah,

832
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.680
well, I want to say immediately, if anybody's listening, we're live on

833
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:21.039
their Chili radio network is always Sunday
night, Uncle, the podcast. You

834
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:26.199
can call in, call in,
oh Friday, Yeah, I'm saying it.

835
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:31.199
No Sundays, get it on Friday
nights. That's tonight. I get

836
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:34.319
my nice comfusible. Any way,
you can call in three one nine five

837
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:39.840
two seven five zero one six,
or you can you skype contact Charles Douchelli

838
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.760
your call three one nine seven five
zero one six, right, I talk

839
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.079
to Alex. Answered absolutely, And
Alex, you know, I didn't realize

840
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:50.399
you and I might might have stepped
upon some of the same circles of communication

841
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:55.439
there with Oregon. Uh. You
know one of the guys that that I

842
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:59.279
knew, and I know my name
got entered into evidence during those trials because

843
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:02.359
I was at content back with some
of those guys. Jason Patrick was from

844
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:06.560
Georgia and that's where I'm living now. I know you can tell from the

845
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:11.560
accent right really quickly, though,
guys, we do have one caller already

846
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.359
on the line. And uncle,
did you want to hear about the international

847
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:17.119
people listening first? Or do you
want to go to the caller? What

848
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:21.680
are we doing here? Let's listen
see who's on there first. Let's see

849
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:26.800
and then I'll get the call up
okay, So just for the record,

850
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:31.640
we got people in Germany, we
got people in Canada. Let's see Australia,

851
01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:36.319
couple of listeners. Let's see Thailand, which is new. I haven't

852
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:42.439
seen that one on your show before. And let's see who else here we

853
01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:46.119
got. Oh, there's uk which
it's really in the middle of the night

854
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:49.239
over there. Wait a minute,
no, it's early morning. I'm sorry,

855
01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:55.119
it's early morning over there. Switzerland. And here's the weird one.

856
01:12:55.640 --> 01:13:02.359
Russian Federation. Okay, listening to
my Russian people on the wrestling program.

857
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:06.079
Yeah, well, when it took
to them, guys, Russian Russians,

858
01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:11.199
Russian Russian wrestlers. I want to
get to know those guys. Russian Federation.

859
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:13.560
Might be because they heard Alex was
going to be your guest. I

860
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:16.920
don't know, it could be.
I'm not sure. Maybe so okay,

861
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:21.079
then let's interesting. But those are
the local I have somebody on the line

862
01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:27.439
and we'll see and we'll get together. Okay. I know our caller is

863
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:31.000
not in the Russian Federation. Uh
that we're familiar. Well, somebody could

864
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:36.159
call from the Russian Federation. It's
possible. We do have international numbers too,

865
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:39.399
by the way, but I never
give them all out because there's like

866
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:42.960
fifty of them. Pretty much every
country could call in if they wanted to.

867
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.279
But we are also available on Skype. So uh, but you want

868
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:47.560
me to go to the caller.
He's a guy you're familiar with. I

869
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:50.960
know who's waiting on the line.
I bet, I bet you can guess?

870
01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:56.439
Uncle, Can you guess who our
caller is? Jimmy, It is

871
01:13:57.239 --> 01:14:03.359
Jimmy, Jimmy caller. You're there, there it is there, you go,

872
01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:09.359
it's me James. There we go. We got a guess here,

873
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:17.399
Jimmy. Mhm. And I heard
Alex Alex? Yes, Hello, give

874
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:21.720
you a question? Have you heard
have you heard Alex before? Jimmy?

875
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:25.960
I wonder have you run across from
before? Because I know you're a consumer

876
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:32.359
of many independent media sources. So
have you heard of Alex before? Yeah?

877
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:36.640
I have not. Oh well,
then this is a treat for you.

878
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:45.279
Okay, we questions if you would
want them. Yeah, well,

879
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:50.760
I don't know if it's a question
so much, but I could see your

880
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:59.840
reasoning for what the flee cities.
Yeah, but go into the desert.

881
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:05.079
The desert is living in a they
and there is a middle ground. You

882
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:12.439
could try rural. Well, I
personally haven't lived in the desert since twenty

883
01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:17.000
thirteen, but that was that that's
not really a present story. But hmmm,

884
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:20.399
I think that going on the desert
can be kind of an interesting experience

885
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:25.199
temporarily, but I don't think it'd
be fun full time. Those there's some

886
01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:30.000
pretty intense places to be middle ground. Yeah, there's different places, Central

887
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:33.239
Organs nice. I've been in Archiletta
County where there's trees in the mountains.

888
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:39.399
That's not so much desert where there's
water. I haven't been to Arizona yet,

889
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:44.359
to said Donna, and maybe later
that would be fun. Yeah,

890
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:49.319
there's a lot of interesting places I
haven't been to yet. The problem is

891
01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:54.920
in my travels. The problem is
sometimes somebody always wants to be the alpha

892
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.760
and the cult leader in reality when
it comes to whether it be in person,

893
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:03.039
off grid or the Facebook admins in
various rural communities. So unfortunately,

894
01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:08.399
because the politics of today's day and
age, and some people have served this

895
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:11.039
country and that's great, but some
people they let it go to their head

896
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:14.119
and they like to have a lot
of underlings underneath them, kind of like

897
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.840
they're still in the service, like
on Facebook. So I've seen this with

898
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:20.920
a lot of people out there,
and it becomes really difficult to want to

899
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.319
get to know them even though you're
off grid. So I have a phrase,

900
01:16:25.399 --> 01:16:29.319
sometimes you can take the person out
of Babylon, but not necessarily Babylon

901
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:32.279
out of the person. So yeah, I think something our modern day technology

902
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:36.000
has really screwed us up in ways
in which even off gritters don't even know

903
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:40.239
which ways up and down, what's
real news, what's fake news, and

904
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:43.960
a lot of them have been sent
on wild goose chases in the alternate media.

905
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.039
So when I lived off grid,
it was miserable because everybody, in

906
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:50.359
my opinion where I lived was straight
up under mind control from Facebook. That

907
01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:56.159
was my off grid experience and so
I'm not off grid now. I will

908
01:16:56.199 --> 01:17:00.479
be in the future. But for
those that don't know, it's super expensive

909
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:03.880
to live off Grita and Colorado since
COVID, the land is doubled, and

910
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:10.039
some people are actually being priced back
into the city because their land tripled,

911
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:14.039
and so it's going to be even
more difficult for some of us in the

912
01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:15.439
next ten years, you know,
to get out of the cities. So

913
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:18.439
if somebody can, somebody asked me
if they can. If it's great to

914
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.840
leave the country, yes you can, you can afford it. Good for

915
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:25.239
you, because those of us that
are stuck here they can't afford to leave

916
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:29.319
or for whatever reason. And I've
always thought they were building the fence to

917
01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:31.199
keep us in. And I think
Run Paul said that long time ago,

918
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:36.199
too so. And the Civil War
movie is about to be released around April

919
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:41.760
twenty twenty three. Not to bring
this back to too much politics, but

920
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.720
seems like they've got everybody super focused
on the Civil War thing before the election,

921
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:51.560
and that definitely foreign governments want that
for sure. China, Russia would

922
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:58.680
love to see lots of unrest see
and Jimmy. The neat thing to note

923
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:03.439
here with Alex is that his media
experience is extremely diverse. If you noticed,

924
01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:06.840
he mentioned Jack Blood earlier, and
he's talking about, you know,

925
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:13.119
not the incarnation where I was producing
him here on this network, but the

926
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.960
earlier incarnations of Alex Jones were you
know, where he was with Alex Jones

927
01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:21.760
and stuff. Alex was familiar with
the alt media of a completely different era

928
01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:26.279
from what we're dealing with now.
I mean, I'm not saying you're not

929
01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:30.119
familiar with what's going on now.
What I am saying is that he had

930
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:35.279
a completely different immersive experience as a
media person earlier on, I would say

931
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:43.720
fairly, and therefore is one of
these guys who has an educated view from

932
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.319
a direct experience point of view.
You know, he's not one of these

933
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:49.159
guys who came along and figured out
it would be great to be on Rumble

934
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:54.800
and started a channel on Rumble recently, you know what I mean. So,

935
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:58.600
you know, and much like you
were talking about, and Aaron two

936
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:02.600
has a long history you know,
also being on the what do you call

937
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:06.279
that again? The Access TV,
public Access and stuff like that, which

938
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:10.000
I think Alex you mentioned in the
last hour you had just gone back to

939
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:14.239
doing right. Yeah, Actually,
so it was a couple of years that

940
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:17.520
I took off, and so I
was doing Access for ten years, and

941
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:21.439
then I did some a few different
alternate media websites from Oracle and a few

942
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:27.600
others, and then unfortunately I did
save those archives, but I did save

943
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:30.560
most of the cable access shows and
interviewed in that time maybe two hundred people.

944
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:34.479
Jones was nice enough in those days
to talk to me. I clyde

945
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.560
lewis a long list of others,
and then long story short, around twenty

946
01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:43.640
thirteen, fourteen, I became homeless, became to be very discontent with the

947
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.399
direction of the mainstream media, began
to talk out about what I didn't like

948
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:49.640
about Jones, why it was my
hero initially, and why I chose to

949
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:55.079
tune out from that, and at
that point kind of began to be less

950
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:58.399
influenced by other men and thinking more
for myself, although I always did,

951
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:00.800
but I saw them more as my
spiration. So then I became a my

952
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:03.920
own journey of just getting deeper into, like I said, the source cycle

953
01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:09.840
stuff and what I'm writing about,
and the geopolitics and the paranormal and just

954
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:14.319
stuff that's my own, and maybe
sharing a little bit more about my story

955
01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:20.039
than other truthers will stories about child
abuse, stories about heroin addiction before OTBTV,

956
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:25.279
stories about going to jail, stories
about like making mistakes in life before

957
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:29.359
I even touched the mic, how
that was a part of my healing journey.

958
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:32.119
So it's different than a lot of
people. And I've tried to get

959
01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:40.439
my family support and people in Portland
support, and really it's just been it's

960
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:45.039
been difficult, and I feel like
other people they deal with a little less

961
01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:48.279
shadow banning when they go along with
certain narratives exactly. So that's why I

962
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:51.439
stopped creating content for three years.
But I felt spiritually called back, not

963
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:55.800
for money, but because by being
silent, I did not feel well.

964
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.119
I feel like it's good to take
a break from it, but it's difficult

965
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:01.960
to really quit this stuff once you're
committed. Yeah. See, And this

966
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:05.840
is the way Jimmy where like alex
is and Alex might not even know this,

967
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:10.560
but I view him very much as
somebody who's akin to me in this

968
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:14.079
way where you know, I start
telling the personal stories in a way that

969
01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:18.920
a lot of other indie media people
would never do. You know, and

970
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:26.880
you're Alex, are you familiar with
Christy AFRODITI? We did talk a few

971
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:30.920
times. I was on our show
a few times. I've figured stuff's interesting,

972
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:34.760
especially about the coconut oil polling and
that she's been on her own journey.

973
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:38.560
So every now and then I'll check
out a video. But we haven't

974
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:41.720
been in touch, I think for
about ten years, and a lot of

975
01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:45.560
people and I we've drifted apart.
I talked to Jack a long time ago.

976
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.640
I met him briefly when I visited
Austin in two thousand and five when

977
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:54.239
I met Alex briefly, but just
have have drifted apart. But I did

978
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:58.720
check out Jack Blood when he came
back on his YouTube channel, Christy,

979
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:00.720
But yeah, what was it?
What do you do to say about her?

980
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:02.560
Oh? No, it's just that
these are people that I've worked with

981
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:05.920
too, So I mean, I'm
just saying, and they're they're kind of

982
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.800
unique in that. I mean Jack
again, you know, Jack has been

983
01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:13.880
on a different journey. And when
he came back on with the YouTube channel,

984
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:17.479
he was also doing the radio show
here, you know, briefly we

985
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:21.880
did the three sixties show for about
a year actually, where he was on,

986
01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:25.840
you know, once twice a week, this kind of thing. Uh.

987
01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:29.680
But but he he decided he liked
the YouTube thing better and then he

988
01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.279
went back to doing his thing on
the ground, you know, in in

989
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:36.199
his local area as a musician,
as the thing that you know, was

990
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:41.359
his passion for the majority of his
life. And Christy is on a different

991
01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:44.560
journey now. She has this whole
you know, the what she calls it,

992
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.920
the the Natural Church of the Ozarks
and all that where she's you know,

993
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:51.640
got a place where she's growing her
own stuff and you know, doing

994
01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:56.199
the healing journey that way. But
you reminded me of her when you brought

995
01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:00.960
up homelessness. And as far as
I know, and Christie are the only

996
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:03.119
people who have really discussed homelessness.
I mean, at one point, she

997
01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:09.319
was doing a show called Homeless Radio
on American Freedom Radio where she was still

998
01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:12.800
living out of her van and she
was trying to get back into uh you

999
01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.319
know again, spread good messages,
spread good words, positive things, and

1000
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:19.039
she's been on an interesting journey too, and it just it reminded me of

1001
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:23.239
those two people when you were talking. Then you brought up Jack in the

1002
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:26.079
first hour. So anyway, with
that, I'll shut up, Jimmy.

1003
01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:29.840
I just wanted to give you another
side of it, you know, another

1004
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.039
another portion of Alex's story for you
to maybe ask a question or make a

1005
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:36.600
comment about. So hopefully I've helped
you out there, Jimmy, and I'll

1006
01:23:36.680 --> 01:23:41.119
check the lines and anybody else who
wants to call in three one nine five

1007
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:44.359
two seven five zero one six.
And with that the producer shuts up.

1008
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:50.359
There we have it, uncle,
Well yeah, I said, Jimmy.

1009
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:58.640
Well go ahead, Jimmy, go
ahead, Jimmy, I'm listening ease,

1010
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.279
yah, but I didn't know that
he was kind of a very tight here

1011
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:14.840
and what podcasting and radio ault radio. Yeah, I didn't know that you

1012
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:18.920
were involved with Alex Jones. Uh, here's just a thought of mine.

1013
01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:28.239
Uh. I don't know if you've
been keeping up with Alex Jones and Professor

1014
01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:36.479
Fetzer's legal woes. But would you
agree with me that the big difference is

1015
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:45.159
I've looked into these these these two
cases just just for funds. He's and

1016
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:50.079
I know it's see Alex Jones he
admitted in his divorce here is that he's

1017
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:57.359
a quote unquote entertainer and may or
may not believe what he says, performance

1018
01:24:57.479 --> 01:25:02.520
artist. So that's why he Yeah, that's why he could be found liable.

1019
01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:10.680
Of course the billion dollars, of
course that's ridiculous, a bit excessive,

1020
01:25:11.399 --> 01:25:15.880
and the cool and the unusual and
bizarre. But the difference between Fetzer

1021
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:23.039
is no, he's covered by the
First Amendment. Why because he believes it.

1022
01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:28.960
If you want to go after FETs
Er, you're at the disadvantage to

1023
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:38.079
have and to prove that he's saying
and does and doesn't believe what he says.

1024
01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:43.159
I think he absolutely does believe it. What do you think, anyone,

1025
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:46.640
Well, it's an interesting topic.
I am new to this topic.

1026
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:50.880
I know who Fetser is. I
met him briefly at the Mark Passio conference,

1027
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:55.079
so this is new to me.
I'm assuming it has to do a

1028
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:59.800
Sandy Hook because he also had theories
about that. I don't agree with everything

1029
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:05.119
Fetzer has to say, but he's
in his own universe. But yeah,

1030
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:10.199
I'm not I'm not familiar with this
and I'm looking it up right now now.

1031
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:15.800
I don't follow Alex anymore for personal
reasons because but I am interested in

1032
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:18.560
kind of hearing the cliff notes of
what Alex is saying. I guess,

1033
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:24.279
and if he's it's really unpopular,
I guess to be critical of Alex,

1034
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:29.760
I guess in certain areas depending on
what your criticism is. Feel free to

1035
01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:32.560
tell me more about this this legal
case if you guys would like to,

1036
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:39.720
because I'm just now looking it up. Yeah, Chuck probably do a better

1037
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:48.840
job out to the overall Chuck.
Basically, for my memories, that kid

1038
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:55.119
by the name of Hogg was going
all over the news networks talking about gun

1039
01:26:55.199 --> 01:27:01.880
grabbing, taking guns away, and
he involved Yeah with he's a so called

1040
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:08.399
survivor from Sandy Hook. Yeah I
know him. I don't know him,

1041
01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:14.279
Yes, I know of him,
right, so that automatically he's a public

1042
01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:18.399
figure. Okay, So there's a
lot of problems there. Basically, I

1043
01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:25.600
think Fencer is no, you can't
fall. He could say anything he wants

1044
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:33.000
period, well and especially if he
truly believes it. Yeah, see the

1045
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:38.159
case, the court case has nothing
to do with with that kid Hogg.

1046
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:43.960
It's got to do with Posner,
who is uh the plaintiff in the civil

1047
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:53.960
suit. Uh where basically he was
accusing Posnor of committing crimes and therefore there's

1048
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:58.239
the liability and there were other elements
to it. But anyway, this case

1049
01:27:58.359 --> 01:28:03.359
was adjudicated already, uh and Fetzer's
up for I think it's one million,

1050
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:10.199
four hundred thousand dollars something like this
as far as the settlement goes. But

1051
01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:15.000
it was about Posner, and Fetzer
did himself no favors by not following the

1052
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:20.520
court's directions and uh entering things in
trying to enter things into evidence, sharing

1053
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:25.720
evidence that was supposed to be privileged
and only shared with the attorneys and so

1054
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:30.880
on and so forth. Uh So
he also got himself a contempt uh charge

1055
01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:33.960
against him during the court proceeding.
So you know, there was a lot

1056
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:38.239
of things. I actually had a
reporter present at the trial for a couple

1057
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:44.880
of days shout out, yeah,
I just wanted to and I just had

1058
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:48.960
one more just with the was the
Chucks. Oh well, then if the

1059
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:53.600
Hawk kid was involved in this thing, then he must have been the one

1060
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:59.159
involved in the Alex Jones thing.
There was ale of him as the two

1061
01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:02.000
of them. The day Hog kid
is from the shooting in Florida, and

1062
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:06.000
then he went around doing you know, the anti gun, anti gun violence,

1063
01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:11.600
anti school shooting campaign and became kind
of a media sweetheart for a bit,

1064
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.920
and they were battling back and forth. Alex Jones and this David Hogg

1065
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:18.840
and a lot of other al media
people sort of went after Hog and claimed

1066
01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:21.880
that he was a crisis actor and
all that kind of stuff. But as

1067
01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:26.319
far as I know, that's not
what the court case is about. The

1068
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:32.720
court case is about damage is done
to these different parents, okay, And

1069
01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:38.159
there's where it comes from. And
again, Fetser, in the course of

1070
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:44.439
his trial didn't answer his charges properly
at all. So you know, what

1071
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:46.880
are you going to do except that
he tried to bring in an attorney that

1072
01:29:47.640 --> 01:29:51.560
wasn't accepted by the court even though
he was a practicing attorney in another state.

1073
01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:56.039
You have to be able to enter
him in there as somebody who's acceptable.

1074
01:29:56.079 --> 01:30:00.239
I mean, these are typical problems. And Fetser, regardless of direction,

1075
01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:04.039
didn't follow me. It's always a
given, and an attorney's going to

1076
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:09.560
be allowed ad hoc to practice.
Look, I mean, well, no,

1077
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:12.439
not at all. You have to
be acceptable. No, I don't

1078
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:21.039
beliefs, but he he's being targeted
for his weird beliefs. Well that's what

1079
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:25.680
some people claim. But what I'm
telling you is that why he was found

1080
01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:30.279
liable is because he did no proper. When you go into a court,

1081
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:33.479
uh, you have to behave according
to what the judge declares you have to

1082
01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:38.960
do. I mean, that's just
universal. And just because somebody has a

1083
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:44.439
license to practice law in another state
doesn't mean they're acceptable as an attorney in

1084
01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:46.880
you know, whatever state you're in. You have to get them to be

1085
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:50.560
accepted, you know what I mean. And you notice this during pre trials

1086
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:54.760
of all sorts of stuff. Even
these guys that go from state to state,

1087
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:59.600
some of these you know, glorified
super glorified ambulance chasers like that guy

1088
01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:03.720
Krump who shows up at every racial
shooting. Right, he can't go into

1089
01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:09.640
court and do anything if they don't
accept him as a legitimate attorney in that

1090
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:14.680
jurisdiction, Fetzer. That was the
first problem. The second problem is he

1091
01:31:14.760 --> 01:31:17.840
brought in stuff that you know,
he claimed was evidence and they rejected it.

1092
01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:21.079
You have to go through a process
to enter something properly into evidence.

1093
01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:25.600
This is the way our courts work
in this country. You can't just bring

1094
01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:28.199
in anything and dump it in front
of him, like you talked about with

1095
01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:31.239
the Warren Commission thing being brought in
where they said, look the Warren Commission

1096
01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:34.960
volumes, which they brought in in
a wheelbarrow to say, hey, here's

1097
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:39.239
our evidence. They kind of went, yeah, that's hearsay, not acceptable.

1098
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:43.520
It's from the bench that that stuff
happened. And like I said,

1099
01:31:43.560 --> 01:31:48.760
he ended up with a contempt charge
because he wanted video of the individual that

1100
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:53.800
he was being sued by, and
he wanted to claim that that wasn't even

1101
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.960
the person, so he took it
to an identity. You know, somebody

1102
01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:02.279
was gonna be his video expert,
even though he was instructed specifically that only

1103
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:10.000
himself and his attorney were permitted access
to this piece of video, and he

1104
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:14.079
didn't follow court directions, and that's
how he ended up with the contempt charge

1105
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:16.720
on him. Like I said,
everything that he and that's the only thing.

1106
01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:19.880
You'd have to follow the whole trial
to see what happened here. It

1107
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:25.560
was like every court direction he was
given representing himself most of the time,

1108
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.359
he didn't follow any of the directions
and therefore was not able to do anything

1109
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:34.560
in court and just complained about it. That's all he did the whole time.

1110
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:42.199
Alex Jones had a team of attorneys, different circumstances entirely, but Fetzer

1111
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:47.079
didn't even in my estimation, make
an effort to adequately defend himself. You

1112
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:51.319
know so well he didn't. He
didn't have an attorney. He didn't have

1113
01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:57.680
an attorney, and it is trying
to provide xeroxes off the internet is evidence

1114
01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:00.159
of course he didn't know what he's
doing right right there, it should be

1115
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:05.640
tossed. Help. Yeah, but
that doesn't because because you're you're not able

1116
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:09.439
to get an attorney, you know, that doesn't dismiss the lawsuit. I

1117
01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:12.960
mean, or because you go in
and you bring things that I mean,

1118
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:16.520
you know, they give it,
and they gave him opportunities like, look,

1119
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:21.720
go home and figure out something here
that's legitimate to bring in. That's

1120
01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:26.960
why it took five days, and
they still he would show back up and

1121
01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:29.479
say, no, you need to
accept this stuff, even though he's told

1122
01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:32.920
by a judge no. You know, it's like if you tried to bring

1123
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:38.000
in you know, if you claim
that I injured you and you brought photographs

1124
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:41.239
in and they said, look,
you got to prove that these photographs were

1125
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:44.920
made at around this time, and
what you brought us is a copy of

1126
01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:47.279
a photograph where we don't have a
proper date on it. Go back and

1127
01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:50.920
bring proper evidence back in, and
you show up the next day and drop

1128
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:55.239
the same photographs, you know,
in front of the judge. What's he

1129
01:33:55.279 --> 01:34:00.000
supposed to do? You know,
I'm just saying it's like that. That's

1130
01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:03.920
a different story. The guy never
offered an adequate defense at all, even

1131
01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:09.920
though he was instructed as to how
to do so and allegedly had the advice

1132
01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:14.560
from different attorneys. But those attorneys
were not permitted to go in court and

1133
01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:18.199
represent him directly because they didn't have. They weren't recognized as having the ability

1134
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:24.560
to practice law and be an attorney
in that jurisdiction. So you know,

1135
01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:28.520
it was a whole mess like that. So Offenser's trial, and again part

1136
01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:34.319
of the judgment against him is literally
contempt for not following the judges' directions.

1137
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:36.520
You're not supposed to show this to
other people, and he did. He

1138
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:42.000
shared it with other people even though
he was specifically admonished not to do so.

1139
01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.119
So to me, this is the
guy who made his whole problem.

1140
01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:48.079
They take that, you know,
forget about what you think of a journey.

1141
01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.880
Yes, I know what he's doing. I know what he's talking about.

1142
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:59.359
You now, I know we're getting
somewhere. Is when you talked it

1143
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:05.159
and you in the Jewela, you
cannot say a wound no from that experience.

1144
01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:09.920
This is what check is talking about. I know it is. There's

1145
01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:14.039
a lot of rules in court,
and if you don't follow them, you're

1146
01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:18.720
going to pay the price for that, sure or the one. Uh.

1147
01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:24.680
If you're the defendant in Fetzer's case, yeah, you're in that Pudi.

1148
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:28.840
On the opposite way though, wouldn't
be the same in a way if you

1149
01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:31.119
a jula, well you know,
but you're supposed to. And that's the

1150
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:33.800
thing though, is that you know, the prosecution could try to bring things

1151
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:36.439
into and you can object to it
and say, hey, look that's not

1152
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:41.640
legitimate evidence. And if you've got
a good argument, supposedly the judges are

1153
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:45.640
supposed to deny entry. And you
know that way too. But the thing

1154
01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:48.079
is that this guy never made even
a proper effort. In my opinion,

1155
01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:51.239
I mean, if you're intelligent and
you realize this is the way the court

1156
01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:55.119
is, this is the way the
situation is, you got to at least

1157
01:35:55.520 --> 01:35:59.439
make a proper attempt. You know. It's the old adage of bringing a

1158
01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:02.680
knife to a gunfight. You know, hey, let me walk up to

1159
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:05.199
you with this knife. No,
this is a gunfight. Boom, you're

1160
01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:11.920
done. I mean, that's pretty
much what happened here. And uh so,

1161
01:36:12.159 --> 01:36:15.640
you know, regardless of his First
Amendment position or anything else, this

1162
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:20.680
was about injury to this guy Posner, who you know again is the is

1163
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:27.560
the the father of one of the
Sandy Hook victims. So therefore this,

1164
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:30.359
this is what the lawsuit was about, had nothing to do with Hog.

1165
01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:32.119
No. Hog is a whole you
know, media circus thing where it's like

1166
01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:35.439
Yeah, that kid's out there trying
to you know, get people, get

1167
01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:41.359
people to have their guns taken away. And of course that's the overall contention

1168
01:36:41.479 --> 01:36:45.399
Offetser is that that's what Sandy Hook
was all about, was just having people

1169
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.560
disarmed, and it was a you
know, a political thing and that's all

1170
01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:51.600
it was. And it was all
fake and et cetera, et cetera.

1171
01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:57.960
Which again I have a different view
on it than that, and I have

1172
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.840
a different view on it than probably
Alex than everybody else. But it just

1173
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:03.039
is what it is. It's not
about his view here though. It was

1174
01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:08.439
about injury to Posner in that case. Leonard Posner was the guy's name,

1175
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:12.600
and all this, Uh, it
almost makes you want to go to Clurt.

1176
01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:15.119
What do you say, Alex?
It sounds like a lot of fun.

1177
01:37:15.239 --> 01:37:21.199
Huh. Maybe being a defendant in
court? Isn't that just like a

1178
01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:31.279
great idea? You like that idea? I'm asking Alex, we may have

1179
01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:35.159
lost him here? What happened to
him? I'm not sure? I'm sorry,

1180
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:38.039
Alex. Are you still there with
us? Man? Are you talking

1181
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:41.960
to your mute button? Or let
me say here? Did we lose him?

1182
01:37:41.960 --> 01:37:45.760
Maybe we may have lost Alex Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, did

1183
01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:49.159
we lose a connection or something.
I don't know. I'm double checking here,

1184
01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:56.880
He's okay, yeah, I had
the mute button. Okay, I

1185
01:37:56.880 --> 01:38:00.319
have to get more information on the
story. Like I'm just Google as you

1186
01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:03.560
guys are talking. I still don't
even understand what the lawsuits about. So

1187
01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:08.520
I see Leonard for Posner. I
have the document brought up. You know,

1188
01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:11.319
this is something which you know.
If I knew we're going to talk

1189
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:14.840
about it ahead of time, I
would have watched some videos. But so

1190
01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:16.560
I did not know that. Now
I might be on that, but I

1191
01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:20.319
have to look at it. I
have plenty of opinions on the truth movement,

1192
01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:24.800
various people, people that I feel
have burned me, people that have

1193
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:29.800
viral YouTube channels that I think put
out disinformation about the sun dying, when

1194
01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:32.359
in fact the source cycle is in
fact very active. It's like the real

1195
01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:36.119
world that I know that I'm writing
about that I want the future to know

1196
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:41.399
about in fifty years, is that
fake stuff went viral in our day and

1197
01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:45.680
age, and truthful stuff got buried, all different types of truthful stuff,

1198
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:49.680
and we all have our own stories. So yeah, uncle, you can

1199
01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:54.199
relate to this, can't you the
truth being buried? Yeah? What he's

1200
01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:58.960
talking about, right, I guess
is talking about I know I can understand

1201
01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:04.239
his point view on that. Nice
but what but what? Uh? Jimmy

1202
01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:10.800
was talking completely out of portion.
He was going in a different direction.

1203
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:15.760
Fun fun in court. That's fun
in court. I mean, who doesn't

1204
01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:19.239
just allow it? That man?
Great time? But yeah, yeah,

1205
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:23.399
Alex has been at this a long
time, uncle, He's been making media

1206
01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:29.279
a long time. A year.
So how long were you on broadcasting?

1207
01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:35.039
Well, I did some broadcasts for
Oracle and American Freedom Radio and Republic Broadcasting,

1208
01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:41.399
and I interviewed Joe Scouts in about
twenty twenty five and uploaded a video

1209
01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:44.279
to disclose dot tv and they took
it down. I don't know why,

1210
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:48.560
but so and then one of the
co founders of Oracle went on to co

1211
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:54.479
found a naughty website that got into
a lot of extremism. So I don't

1212
01:39:54.520 --> 01:39:59.479
know if you had a bias against
me for deleting my content. But it's

1213
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:03.439
not just you, You Tube or
Google that sensors. You know. Sometimes

1214
01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:06.720
people get mad at other people and
they just delete all their stuff. Well

1215
01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:13.159
just to click one click and that's
it. So lesson to be learned.

1216
01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:15.479
Back up your stuff, have a
good hard drive, not one of the

1217
01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:18.479
cheap ones. I've gone through a
lot of hard drives in the off grid

1218
01:40:18.600 --> 01:40:21.760
years, like when you're off grid, yeat and you're homeless. Lots of

1219
01:40:21.800 --> 01:40:28.359
broken computers, hard drives, all
my possessions that I had in Portland,

1220
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:30.600
not that I'm telling your soop story
and just you know, everything gone when

1221
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:34.159
I left Portland. Someone was supposed
to store my stuff when I went on

1222
01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:38.319
my off grid journey, and that's
probably all gone. So I had stuff

1223
01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:43.439
and started over with the backpack multiple
times, like in a ten year period.

1224
01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:50.680
So yeah, after the COVID thing, definitely, Yeah. I have

1225
01:40:50.720 --> 01:40:57.359
my own story about leaving the Internet
and leaving conspiracies and during the COVID watching

1226
01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:00.760
the mainstream media for a while and
not wanting to just by being just feeling

1227
01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:05.680
just disenfranchised for fifteen years and then
feeling like I gotta leave my off grid

1228
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:10.359
property. So then I came back
recently and so like, I believe in

1229
01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:14.640
just thinking for myself, being a
contrarian. But I don't listen to the

1230
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:18.840
other people anymore. I have different
views on Russia, and I just see

1231
01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:24.119
a lot of people AMTV. Clyde
Lewis singing too the same tune, and

1232
01:41:24.239 --> 01:41:27.039
Coast to Coast isn't great. They
have a lot of people on that I

1233
01:41:27.039 --> 01:41:30.880
don't agree with. But they're gonna
let me on next month to talk about

1234
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:35.319
the soar flares and the war cycles
for the second time. So I'm gonna

1235
01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:40.359
be getting prepared for that because it's
really rare for someone like me to get

1236
01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:44.079
on a show to talk about anything. I try to talk to Clyde and

1237
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:46.680
others, and there's a lot of
people that do gatekeep when they like to

1238
01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:51.800
control exactly what the narrative is like
too much in alternative media. There's way

1239
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:56.680
too much control freak behavior in alternative
media with what we talk about. Who's

1240
01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:59.199
going to interview on Coast to Coast? By the way, did they tell

1241
01:41:59.239 --> 01:42:03.399
you? Oh uh, Nori Nori
cool cool? I was on with Sarah

1242
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:08.760
in November, so oh okay,
yeah, And I will check that out.

1243
01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:10.960
I haven't listened to it. I
don't know you that well. I've

1244
01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:14.479
just heard positive things. Have I
just heard Jack bled said he was on

1245
01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:17.720
your network, and other people have
so I would check that out. I

1246
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:23.039
don't know who Sarah is Yeah,
Richard saraht. He does a podcast called

1247
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:26.279
Strange Planet, which actually Aaron was
a guest on not too long ago,

1248
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:29.520
too, right, Aaron, Yeah, yeah, that's right. And he's

1249
01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:31.960
also one of the hosts you know
that rotates for coast to coast. I

1250
01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:34.399
put Jimmy on hold, by the
way, uncle, So I don't know

1251
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:38.039
if anybody else wants to call in, but I mean, we got another

1252
01:42:38.159 --> 01:42:43.119
maybe ten ten plus minutes left of
this hour, and and that'll be that.

1253
01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:45.439
So you know, if you guys
want to get in, it's time

1254
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:48.600
three one nine, five, two
seven, five zero one six And Clyde.

1255
01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:51.000
You know, it's great. Did
you have Clyde on when you were

1256
01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:57.479
on American Freedom Radio? Well we
knew each other in person, not super

1257
01:42:57.560 --> 01:42:59.840
great, but you know, he
I was in Portland. He was in

1258
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:01.840
Portland, and he was on some
of my earlier shows, you know,

1259
01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:06.520
and then we had some differences of
opinion around the twenty ten period and drifted

1260
01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:10.920
apart, and then I left Portland
around twenty eleven, then came back,

1261
01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:14.279
was almost for a year in my
car, and then left again in twenty

1262
01:43:14.359 --> 01:43:17.520
fifteen. Around that time he ended
up on commercial radio. After two thousand

1263
01:43:17.520 --> 01:43:20.680
and eight or nine, so we
did maybe like five to ten shows together.

1264
01:43:21.039 --> 01:43:24.600
That's cool. Yeah, I've had
him on as an interview a couple

1265
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:28.800
of times on my show as well. And I was actually his JFK guest

1266
01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:32.439
this year on the anniversary, so
you know, But because I'm a JFK

1267
01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:35.000
researcher, I don't know if you're
familiar with any of my stuff. We

1268
01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:39.159
might have been on AFAR at the
same time. Actually, you and I

1269
01:43:39.199 --> 01:43:42.000
at one, I think, So
I didn't listen. I wish the archives

1270
01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:45.560
were still up. Yeah, I
missed some of the and the Oracle ones,

1271
01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:48.479
but yeah, there was a lot
of shows American Freedom Radio had.

1272
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:53.000
I remember I looked it up recently
trying to see if the Ora chives were

1273
01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:56.079
up or what happened with Danny,
because I know he dealt with a lot

1274
01:43:56.119 --> 01:44:00.920
of challenges and relocated up the Washington
state. So yeah, I've tried to

1275
01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:02.720
follow up. But yeah, yeah, no, it was. It was

1276
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:06.279
a great time. And and and
Oracle boy, there's the name I haven't

1277
01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:11.199
heard in quite a while. I
wonder where Bob Tuscan is today, you

1278
01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:17.479
know. Uh, So you know, anytime you anytime you want to be

1279
01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:24.600
on mine, Alex, you welcome, and and on on my Oh you

1280
01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:28.600
got to get into my evolution when
it comes up. Yes, yeah,

1281
01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:31.760
we do it more out out of
it. Yeah. We do a four

1282
01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:35.960
hour live show on every New Year's
We do a four hour live show every

1283
01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:42.520
New Year Alex. So you know
you could get we We invite tons of

1284
01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:44.760
people to call in that night.
And I mean, we'd be more than

1285
01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:47.159
happy if you join us at New
Year's Eve. You know, if if

1286
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:50.680
the world doesn't fall apart by then, uh, you know what I mean.

1287
01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:55.319
Yeah, I suspect we'll still be
around. Okay, I'll put out

1288
01:44:55.359 --> 01:44:58.880
my calendar than you expect, you
know, I suspect, but you never

1289
01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:01.560
can tell. Uh. You know. Look, I'm open minded about the

1290
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:05.039
whole thing, right. I don't
make those decisions. I just work here.

1291
01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:12.640
I don't know, I know.
So anyway, Medusa boys, Medusa

1292
01:45:12.720 --> 01:45:16.479
did well. One of the interesting
things Clyde did a long time ago was

1293
01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:21.640
mattis Hell TV, which was another
access show and her name was Courtney I

1294
01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:25.600
forget her last name, and so
Clyde would come in. It was two

1295
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:29.560
thousand and one, two three,
four five, and I think Anthony Hilder

1296
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:32.239
did his show there and with Daniel
Hopsticker. I don't know him real well,

1297
01:45:32.279 --> 01:45:36.439
but he's really a really well known
researcher. So yeah, yeah,

1298
01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:41.920
I remember Hopsticker. Yeah, Hilder
was there too, that's crazy. Oh

1299
01:45:41.960 --> 01:45:47.239
and also I got a Saturday show
party also if you interested Saturday, we

1300
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:53.439
should be doing that tomorrow watching VHS. DHS Saturdays they do a VHS watch

1301
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:57.039
party thing and they also sometimes do
video games too, but they haven't done

1302
01:45:57.039 --> 01:46:00.680
the video games lately, yeah,
in a while. So I don't know

1303
01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:03.359
if you want me to let Jimmy
James back on or whatever. Uncle,

1304
01:46:03.439 --> 01:46:06.640
it's your show, your call,
but you know, whatever you want to

1305
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:11.279
do. Like, Alex has got
a lot to say here, so he

1306
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:14.640
does get a lot. If anybody
else wants to call there, more than

1307
01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:16.359
welcome. Three one, nine,
five, seven, five zer own six.

1308
01:46:16.399 --> 01:46:21.279
We're talking to Alex's answer of Outside
the Box TV. A true veteran

1309
01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:28.039
in the alternative media world, right, I'm gonna put the link to the

1310
01:46:28.159 --> 01:46:31.560
UH to Alex's YouTube channel in the
live chatroom at o'celli dot com, So

1311
01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:34.199
if you go over there, you
can even go in as an anon if

1312
01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:38.880
you're not familiar guys, if you're
listening on your phone or whatever. Uh

1313
01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:42.640
there it is at o'celli dot com
and we have a chattango over there,

1314
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:45.079
and Alex would be familiar with the
chattango. I've been using that thing for

1315
01:46:45.479 --> 01:46:48.640
I don't know, the better part
of a decade at least. Yeah,

1316
01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:51.479
Yeah, that's been around for a
while. I used it last in twenty

1317
01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:56.159
ten, I think. There you
go, So I think I started using

1318
01:46:56.199 --> 01:46:59.960
it back then. But anyway,
either way, I've only been around about

1319
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:03.520
ten years and Alex has been around
longer. Just for the listener's edification.

1320
01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:11.920
Oh and like I said, I'm
over the top of it. Ellen,

1321
01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:17.479
that sounds that's Alex. No,
we know it's not easy, not easy

1322
01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:21.000
to do, but he's just done
it. It's been actually many years since

1323
01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:24.880
I've been on the conference call.
I mean, I know I in Oracle

1324
01:47:25.079 --> 01:47:28.399
during those days. I think I
talked with Doug Owen, you know,

1325
01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:30.680
off and on. Maybe it was
two thousand and nine or ten, But

1326
01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:35.079
it's been quite a while. Yeah, there's a lot of you know,

1327
01:47:35.199 --> 01:47:39.479
I've tried to reach out to certain
people that I talked to a long time

1328
01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:42.600
ago, and like David Ike and
whatnot. And a lot of them.

1329
01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:45.399
I guess you guys already know this
are are that are around the Alex Jones.

1330
01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:48.920
It's like kind of like a click. Unfortunately at this point things would

1331
01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.760
change in the last decade, so
it's a little harder to get some of

1332
01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:56.720
those guests. But I am really
grateful that I did start out young before

1333
01:47:56.800 --> 01:48:00.840
YouTube with trying to get guests,
and then I had the honor of being

1334
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:03.399
able to interview these people before they
got in such high demand. So I'm

1335
01:48:03.439 --> 01:48:06.479
really lucky that I had the chance
that David I talked to me a long

1336
01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:10.560
time ago, and he got up
at three o'clock in the morning his time

1337
01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:14.800
in England, and here I was
barely with volunteers trying to figure out how

1338
01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:17.359
to work the audio. Audio quality
is not up to par with what it

1339
01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:20.680
should have been for a day would
like interview in my first few months,

1340
01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:25.760
and so I just considered myself to
be like I face a lot of hardship,

1341
01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:29.399
but I did was lucky enough to
get some decent interviews and meet certain

1342
01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:31.880
people. With Anthony Hilder, I
met him in person and we went through

1343
01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:35.520
a checkpoint in Portland, Oregon with
the legal tags while they were doing a

1344
01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:40.880
checkpoint four tags and then we it's
like almost as if we had a shield

1345
01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:45.800
of protection around us and we got
out to film this checkpoint in Portland,

1346
01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:54.159
Oregon. Anyway, Yeah, Anthony
Hilder is an interesting character, and so

1347
01:48:54.319 --> 01:48:58.680
yeah, I do foresee myself write
a book one day about just some of

1348
01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:00.960
my stories behind the scene. It's
not to expose anyone to just talk about

1349
01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:06.439
the rule behind the scenes reality of
being a young person trying to create alternive

1350
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:13.600
media content in a world that's very
behind the scenes, cutthroat and competitive.

1351
01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:16.880
Yeah, that's actually what I was
going to ask you about as my final

1352
01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:19.800
because with conspiracy theorist you really don't
have friends. You have a lot of

1353
01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:25.479
backstabbers that go crazy with conspiracy theories, start developing psychosis that you're one of

1354
01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:28.880
them. And in fact, there
can be an essay I can write why

1355
01:49:29.039 --> 01:49:31.319
the Truth movement destroyed my life if
you want to go there. So like,

1356
01:49:31.479 --> 01:49:35.520
actually, like I've just the sad
thing is it attracts really messed up

1357
01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:39.800
people that if theories about everything and
they don't know how to be a friend.

1358
01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:44.039
So actually, if if someone want
to make friends, conspiracy genre is

1359
01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:47.439
not what I would recommend, but
I'm speaking from my lived experience. Someone

1360
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:51.520
else there's experience might be different.
Yeah, I would suggest as a book

1361
01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:59.119
title, Alex the Fine Line between
Crazy and Conspiracy Theory, because you know,

1362
01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:02.439
the fine line between intelligence and crazy, right, is what we've heard

1363
01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:06.880
our whole lives. But really,
honestly, it's it's it's the funniest thing

1364
01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:12.920
in the world. I mean,
going from the targeted individuals who legitimately feel

1365
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:16.159
as though they're targeted, whether it's
true or not, and then actually living

1366
01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:20.199
in a circumstance where you find,
you know, strangely, there are people

1367
01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:25.880
really watching you. You know,
like the story that I've told on air

1368
01:50:25.880 --> 01:50:30.079
about the Homeland Security being triggered on
me. Uh, you know, when

1369
01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:34.239
I was allegedly the victim in a
situation, things can get very weird.

1370
01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:36.680
And that was before I had a
radio show, by the way, it

1371
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:40.159
was just a JFK researcher, and
they got weird on me, you know.

1372
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:46.359
So anyway, it's it's it's it's
quite the journey. I was curious

1373
01:50:46.399 --> 01:50:50.760
though, what your thoughts were about, you know, how much of this

1374
01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:58.840
do you think is just symptomatic of
the stuff that people immerse themselves in like

1375
01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:00.680
how much of it is organic and
how much of it do you think is

1376
01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:08.199
orchestrated when it comes to the strangeness
and the world of people that again,

1377
01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:10.479
like you said, you're not going
to find a lot of friends. You

1378
01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:14.439
can find some. You used to
find a brotherhood, but I think those

1379
01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:18.920
days are gone, and you can
find lots of people that will try and

1380
01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:26.640
get close to you, but their
motivations have a wide range, right,

1381
01:51:27.720 --> 01:51:31.079
Like it's good to get donations,
but some people like will donate to try

1382
01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:34.279
and manipulate one's energy or what they
say. Like, I do believe in

1383
01:51:34.279 --> 01:51:39.359
psychic powers and telepathy, so even
if some people don't, So we're all

1384
01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:43.000
connected, even if we don't know
that we're connected. And so like by

1385
01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:46.239
being online and putting your energy online
and people focusing on you, and if

1386
01:51:46.239 --> 01:51:50.600
you don't shield yourself, you can
come under like entity attack from people's thoughts

1387
01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:55.920
and what's attached to them. In
my understanding, so David like has his

1388
01:51:56.119 --> 01:51:59.920
version of the reptilians, and that's
fine. My overlay intersects with that,

1389
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:06.000
but it's kind of my own take. And so I think that some people

1390
01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:11.159
talk about the idea of controlled opposition
my perception of it, some people are

1391
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:16.199
overshadowed by a spiritual overtaking, and
there's almost like a dark agenda to control,

1392
01:52:16.439 --> 01:52:19.680
to dominate a topic, to push
someone out, and a theory that

1393
01:52:19.720 --> 01:52:24.399
they're just doing it for money,
as some people might have in some cases.

1394
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:27.720
I don't believe. I don't believe
at the deeper levels that some people

1395
01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.800
are just about the money, that
there's more or less than evil. So

1396
01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:32.920
there's really, I think, even
at a hidden war within the truth movement.

1397
01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:36.600
And when it comes to solar flares, even if that's somewhat new to

1398
01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:40.920
some of you, it goes in
a different areas. Some people say like

1399
01:52:41.079 --> 01:52:44.319
we're going to be ascending with the
soor flares, which I don't believe in,

1400
01:52:44.640 --> 01:52:48.159
and that's really popular David Wilcock content
and then others talk about how we're

1401
01:52:48.239 --> 01:52:51.640
going to die from a massive soorflare
took a Carlson just did a story on

1402
01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:56.920
that. Than others they talk about
the GSM and the Grand Sore minimum,

1403
01:52:57.119 --> 01:53:00.199
And what I'm talking about is the
unrest and other things that are based in

1404
01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:04.199
science. What I'm saying is it
seems like even with the sore flaars like

1405
01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:09.359
with the other stuff, there's like
a war on truth. Even with the

1406
01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:15.960
algorithm, and we talk about racism, we shouldn't. There is an anti

1407
01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:20.479
white sediment. I don't deny that. What I perceive is like a racist

1408
01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:29.199
sentiment that's promoted by algorithms, by
technology that's leading people artificially towards certain sediments.

1409
01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:32.199
And so when I talk about that, people don't act like they understand

1410
01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:38.640
that. Like conspiracy theorists seem really
led in some cases by algorithms, by

1411
01:53:38.680 --> 01:53:43.079
fake news when they should be a
little bit more conspiratorial about what's being shown

1412
01:53:43.079 --> 01:53:47.279
to them on Facebook. So I'm
pretty pessimistic about society now and the big

1413
01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:50.560
tech websites and the direction. For
sure, I don't see a real truth

1414
01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:55.600
movement. We might be able to
rebuild pockets of it, like micro cells,

1415
01:53:56.119 --> 01:54:00.560
but on the larger scale, like
even the psychic rooms psychic groups on

1416
01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:03.800
Facebook seems like it's full of a
bunch of fake psychics that have no intuition

1417
01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:09.000
about anything going on course and those
arenas. And I do believe in the

1418
01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:13.680
ability to have abilities that potential,
but I don't believe that a lot of

1419
01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:16.119
the people that we see that are
popular that I have the most views.

1420
01:54:16.199 --> 01:54:20.039
Things like that are the most honorable, So it just seems like, yeah,

1421
01:54:20.039 --> 01:54:24.800
I don't want to sound stuper nihilistic, but it's through this that I

1422
01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:29.119
have a faith in God that we're
meant to just be sharing this truth and

1423
01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:34.840
that we need to be preparing for
I advocate not trys still in my here,

1424
01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:38.600
but I advocate people trying to write
books and hand zines out in the

1425
01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:42.520
street to try to just start truth
in the street outside of technology. Like

1426
01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:45.640
I'm very suspicious of this QR code
thing, everybody with a cell phone sending

1427
01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:49.239
everybody to a QR code, Like
that's one way to truth, and I

1428
01:54:49.319 --> 01:54:53.520
might do that at some point,
but I want to almost return to an

1429
01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:59.000
old school way of reaching people.
I've made attempts in my own community to

1430
01:54:59.079 --> 01:55:01.640
talk about certain things a form of
meetups, and for years it's failed.

1431
01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:05.479
So for right now, the only
people that I can reach are going to

1432
01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:09.760
be on the Internet. And that's
it's I think situational that you are in

1433
01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:13.199
too, So you feel right,
So I just want to get this straight.

1434
01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:18.159
You feel like we're in a stage
here where it is not necessarily about

1435
01:55:18.199 --> 01:55:27.119
the physical struggle now, but it's
it's actually on a spiritual level where we're

1436
01:55:27.439 --> 01:55:30.319
really contending with many a dark force. Like you know, mary Anne Williamson

1437
01:55:30.439 --> 01:55:35.720
wasn't entirely wrong right when she was
saying what she was saying about the great

1438
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:42.439
dark force that is exerting itself,
and we are equally affected as as the

1439
01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:46.079
rest of the planet. And of
course that that nearly doubles our struggle for

1440
01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:53.399
those of us seeking to reach outside
of the conventions. Would you would you

1441
01:55:53.439 --> 01:55:59.479
say that's true? Exactly so,
me having sensitivity when I was doing online

1442
01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:01.760
radio and in two thousand and eight, nine and ten, I believe I've

1443
01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:05.640
faced a lot of interference, a
lot of really negative energy from the chat

1444
01:56:05.720 --> 01:56:10.920
room vibes, and then just also
the negativity that I noticed in some of

1445
01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:14.039
the talk show hosts that I'm not
going to mention and some of the cool

1446
01:56:14.079 --> 01:56:16.079
things they were saying. It was
like, are they being targeted? Is

1447
01:56:16.119 --> 01:56:19.000
there some sort of a beam weapon
that's being pointed at all of us as

1448
01:56:19.079 --> 01:56:23.640
hosts to try to drive us into
insanity and turn on each other. So

1449
01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:27.159
these are actual thoughts I had the
whole time. If there was some sort

1450
01:56:27.159 --> 01:56:30.680
of interference, you know, energetically, and then what that is we could

1451
01:56:30.680 --> 01:56:33.119
speculate, but I think that people
that want to make everything about the TI

1452
01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:39.600
gang Stocking government program are really overlooking
what these unseen forces could be doing.

1453
01:56:40.039 --> 01:56:43.560
A lot of them they really want
to argue and make it, Oh,

1454
01:56:43.600 --> 01:56:45.640
it's physical, it's the government,
and if they want to believe that,

1455
01:56:45.640 --> 01:56:48.920
that's fine. I think there's something
beyond that. Of course, it's beyond

1456
01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:53.760
the physical. And I think that
I've told them in videos that go back

1457
01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:56.880
at least ten years, I've made
this position. I think the entities are

1458
01:56:56.880 --> 01:57:00.720
trying to manipulate people and thinking that
it's just physical, that it's their neighbor,

1459
01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:02.720
that it's that guy down the street, because if they can cause someone

1460
01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:08.159
to act like they have psychosis,
then they can, you know, and

1461
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:12.479
that person could be seen as crazy. So the mental health field right now

1462
01:57:12.560 --> 01:57:15.079
is not prepared to deal with.
For example, what's going on right now

1463
01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:19.600
is society right and the paranormal,
and there's lots of signs of That's one

1464
01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:24.159
of the reasons I stopped uploading for
three years is I saw a lot of

1465
01:57:24.199 --> 01:57:28.159
signs of possession online. Now we
kind of we're still there now, but

1466
01:57:28.199 --> 01:57:31.439
it's less it's a little less than
twenty nineteen before COVID. A lot of

1467
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:35.720
people agree was we're weird times.
So you think, yeah, I'm sorry,

1468
01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:39.840
I just wanted to ask one last
question. So you think that there

1469
01:57:40.039 --> 01:57:45.640
is indeed an element of the profiteering
types out there that does exist in the

1470
01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:51.119
controlled opposition, but you think that
that's not the prevalent thing that's motivating this,

1471
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:58.680
which is stifling and atomizing in truth
regarding all these things, I mean,

1472
01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:02.479
the nine to eleven truth has been
atomized, in my opinion, completely

1473
01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:08.640
destroyed. And you know they both
obviously exist. Yes, yeah, they

1474
01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:12.039
both obviously exist, and obviously this
many ways. I've had dealings with some

1475
01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:15.000
people. I opened up a survival
store briefly in Portland for a few folks

1476
01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.920
that were romp the followers, and
they really had an agenda to terrify their

1477
01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:23.359
customers to a newsletter that they sent
out to say the world was ending in

1478
01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:27.800
twenty twelve, and they were trying
to recruit me into there because I wantn't

1479
01:58:27.880 --> 01:58:30.039
budge. I kind of got forced
out of that situation. So I've had

1480
01:58:30.720 --> 01:58:35.439
experiences, but that there was also
still an element of evil with one of

1481
01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:39.640
the individuals. It wasn't just a
money thing, and in the end his

1482
01:58:39.680 --> 01:58:44.960
attempts to make money failed in that
store collapsed and was no more. But

1483
01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:48.279
he was an individual who was evil, who was evil incarnate one of those

1484
01:58:48.319 --> 01:58:54.279
business partners. And so I yeah, I can elaborate on that anyway.

1485
01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:58.760
Like, but I do suspect that
behind the scenes that human beings can become

1486
01:58:58.800 --> 01:59:01.279
targeted if they emerge in the truth
circuit and if they can be co opted

1487
01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:05.479
on a soul level. There's ways, however, you see it religiously chat

1488
01:59:05.600 --> 01:59:10.039
on the devil Satan in which we
can be tempted. In the Bible,

1489
01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:14.279
he talks about Jesus in the wilderness
or the temptation. And I feel like

1490
01:59:14.319 --> 01:59:18.479
in the truth movement that that's taken
place through the algorithmic, Like when the

1491
01:59:18.479 --> 01:59:23.520
the Google AdSense thing really exploded in
twenty fourteen fifteen, right before Trump,

1492
01:59:23.800 --> 01:59:26.800
and they made it really easy for
what they call bad actors to come in

1493
01:59:26.840 --> 01:59:31.319
and abuse the system so badly that
now your average content creator can't monetize until

1494
01:59:31.359 --> 01:59:34.880
they have a thousand subscribers, which
is almost impossible to get now. So

1495
01:59:34.920 --> 01:59:39.720
they set it up to be abused
the big tech system and now nobody can

1496
01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:43.000
make a living on YouTube. So
there's a lot of ways in which the

1497
01:59:43.039 --> 01:59:46.760
alternive media rose in a matter a
few years and was driven including the nihilven

1498
01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:51.119
truth movement like into the ground,
and I think that we should psychoanalyze it

1499
01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:56.520
and make it a part of the
historical record how the truth movement rose and

1500
01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:59.920
how it kind of shifted. And
so that's the reason why I don't want

1501
01:59:59.920 --> 02:00:04.720
to go to bit shoot and Rumble
and Honesty and these other because the energy

1502
02:00:04.720 --> 02:00:08.800
doesn't feel right. I know I
can get hits over there and clicks,

1503
02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:12.800
but are those the viewers that I
want? Yeah, I think moving into

1504
02:00:12.800 --> 02:00:15.640
the future, I don't want lots
of viewers. I want quality viewers that

1505
02:00:15.680 --> 02:00:19.359
are more of a friend camaraderie type
consciousness than a follower, you know,

1506
02:00:19.680 --> 02:00:23.159
right right, No, no,
And look, I've done some of those

1507
02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:26.960
platforms, but I have some Here's
the funny part, guys, And we're

1508
02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.520
about at the end of time here, Aaron, So if you want to

1509
02:00:29.520 --> 02:00:32.159
get ready for shout outs and wrap
it up, we're ready to go.

1510
02:00:32.840 --> 02:00:39.279
But really quickly, what you're essentially
saying is is the thing that I've been

1511
02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:43.880
trying to communicate for a long time, and it seems to fall on a

1512
02:00:43.880 --> 02:00:48.000
lot of deaf ears. Quite frankly, is that we are at a point

1513
02:00:48.000 --> 02:00:56.039
here where indeed, these concerns of
the physical realm are active weapons. They

1514
02:00:56.079 --> 02:01:01.720
are weapons, but they're being weaponized
on multiple levels, not just those with

1515
02:01:01.840 --> 02:01:08.359
worldly concerns, but I think they've
been weaponized as yet another part of the

1516
02:01:08.520 --> 02:01:15.439
arsenal in the spiritual conflict that we're
faced with. And it is it's it's

1517
02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:18.720
happened again, it will happen again, it has happened, you know what

1518
02:01:18.720 --> 02:01:23.960
I mean, all things that it
just continues to cycle through. And I

1519
02:01:23.960 --> 02:01:28.840
think I think we're at that point
though, where we got to recognize that

1520
02:01:29.279 --> 02:01:33.159
it's not just the simplistic and the
easy to track. Sure it's profitable and

1521
02:01:33.159 --> 02:01:38.720
there are profiteers, but some of
them, and the maybe even the majority

1522
02:01:38.720 --> 02:01:45.960
of them, are motivated by things
that are completely misunderstood and not even recognized

1523
02:01:45.039 --> 02:01:51.119
by most conventional individuals, organizations,
et cetera. I think, yeah,

1524
02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:55.319
I think that's where you're coming down
on this, right agreed, Yeah,

1525
02:01:55.359 --> 02:01:58.640
absolutely, yeah, And then I
can elaborate on that even even further.

1526
02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:01.359
But yeah, there's the people we'll
do things right now for no reason whatsoever,

1527
02:02:01.640 --> 02:02:04.560
for not for money, not for
hits, just to be malicious.

1528
02:02:04.880 --> 02:02:09.479
There's literally some sort of a dopamine
hit that in it is may be giving

1529
02:02:09.520 --> 02:02:13.680
some humans. There literally is like
a pleasure center. It's activated by certain

1530
02:02:13.720 --> 02:02:17.720
types of cruelty that's exhibited in my
opinion. Well, with that, I

1531
02:02:17.760 --> 02:02:23.640
think we did. I think we
should. So, yes, we usually

1532
02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:27.399
do shout outs here at the end
of the show. So Alex you are

1533
02:02:27.520 --> 02:02:30.760
our guest. There anybody that you'd
like to send a shout out to tonight,

1534
02:02:30.840 --> 02:02:41.920
say hello to any any shout outs
for tonight. Well, hello to

1535
02:02:41.239 --> 02:02:45.920
all the people out there with souls. I don't know, no one specific.

1536
02:02:45.279 --> 02:02:49.479
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm,
you know, just trying to communicate

1537
02:02:49.520 --> 02:02:54.359
to the good people out there and
not be distracted by the evil, because

1538
02:02:54.880 --> 02:02:58.520
evil rises sometimes to distract us from
the good things in this world and the

1539
02:02:58.520 --> 02:03:04.079
good people. So this time around, I want to be more focused on

1540
02:03:04.119 --> 02:03:10.880
some of the positive aspects of alternative
media. And uh yeah, yeah,

1541
02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:15.159
there's no one specific to that like
that I have to shout out. It's

1542
02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:16.680
kind of lonely out there in the
truth moved these days, but it was

1543
02:03:16.720 --> 02:03:20.399
fun meeting you guys and have a
lot in common with some of the things

1544
02:03:20.439 --> 02:03:25.000
that you guys brought up. Yeah, oh yeah, it's great to have

1545
02:03:25.119 --> 02:03:31.920
you Alex. Uncle interesting. Yeah, I like, I guess like you

1546
02:03:32.039 --> 02:03:38.439
had gutten and I let I let
him handle the show and killed most of

1547
02:03:38.479 --> 02:03:45.279
it because to know what he's like, that's why I do. Oh yeah,

1548
02:03:45.319 --> 02:03:46.520
he's got he had a lot to
say, uncle, and he could

1549
02:03:46.560 --> 02:03:49.960
actually he's got a lot more to
say, you know. So uh yeah,

1550
02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:54.159
maybe if he's wanting to come back, that would be great. Uh

1551
02:03:54.199 --> 02:03:57.600
And certainly we we talked about he'd
come on the New Year's Revolution too.

1552
02:03:58.920 --> 02:04:00.600
Whatever, man, I I say, open door and if you ever want

1553
02:04:00.600 --> 02:04:03.960
to come on my show. Also, Alex, I'm here still doing my

1554
02:04:04.079 --> 02:04:10.680
thing ten years deep plus, but
you know, not not not quite as

1555
02:04:10.880 --> 02:04:16.439
thank you. So anyway, Aaron, we still got Jimmy on the line

1556
02:04:16.439 --> 02:04:18.239
too, if you want to let
you get a shout out on him.

1557
02:04:18.239 --> 02:04:25.560
Okay, well we better bet Jimmy
show, Jimmy on, Jimmy on he

1558
02:04:25.680 --> 02:04:30.920
got Jimmy. What do you got? Well? First off, thanks stout

1559
02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:40.960
Alex for being a guest and speak
to us. Appreciate it. Thankstomable and

1560
02:04:41.880 --> 02:04:47.479
Sidekick. Thanks to the producer,
Chuck appreciate it. Oh, and I

1561
02:04:47.560 --> 02:04:57.680
absolutely agree, alex Is that's interesting. Just recently, I was trying to

1562
02:04:57.680 --> 02:05:03.840
persuade someone that there is through forces. About the best I could do is

1563
02:05:03.920 --> 02:05:11.680
to get him to admit that there's
the least natural forces. He did acknowledge

1564
02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:17.359
that, as in weather and why
not, but he didn't quite He just

1565
02:05:17.399 --> 02:05:23.319
said, I don't believe it.
God, you kind of what I'm talking

1566
02:05:23.319 --> 02:05:26.760
about, Chuck. You know the
conversation I'm talking about. Yeah, of

1567
02:05:26.760 --> 02:05:29.439
course I get it. I get
it. But it's one of those things.

1568
02:05:29.439 --> 02:05:31.880
Look, you got to convince him
that water's wet sometimes. Man,

1569
02:05:32.640 --> 02:05:35.640
it just is what it is,
and you don't see it. You don't

1570
02:05:35.680 --> 02:05:39.640
see it. What can I do
for you? Accept? You know,

1571
02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:42.720
pray that you improve? Right?
I mean, what am I going to

1572
02:05:42.840 --> 02:05:47.000
do? Uh? But Jimmy,
I do know one thing. I know

1573
02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:51.520
who the devil is. There we
go. I knew that, all right,

1574
02:05:53.279 --> 02:05:55.960
I n who it is. Are
you going to shout out to the

1575
02:05:56.000 --> 02:06:00.800
devil, uncle? Or shout at
the devil? Reps at the shout at

1576
02:06:00.920 --> 02:06:06.600
the devil? Trump? Oh that
guy that he's the del Okay? All

1577
02:06:06.640 --> 02:06:11.159
right, well there you go.
Well uncle theepodcast, dot com at Uncle

1578
02:06:11.199 --> 02:06:15.239
Podcast, Instagram and Twitter. Alex
answer, you was our guest outside the

1579
02:06:15.239 --> 02:06:26.000
buck. I'm gonna get ahead any

