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Hi, everybody. I'm welcome to
a very very special episode of on the

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Large Quarantina Dish. It's your boy, the Black Aphrasier, Joshi Willisy,

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Hi, Thanky, it's and it's
me at Guy Puzy And today we have

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an incredibly special guest icon influence her
Fashion Mogul, creat Fruitcake Magazine, all

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around, good time gal and actually
one of the realm spitches out there.

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It's Jamie Windows. Good evening,
good morning, Hello, wherever you are.

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She's international Fashion Mogul. I love
that. Thank you for that.

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I appreciate that. I love it, and I am a real bit in

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all senses of the word, really
like you said, um, and we're

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going to get into it today.
How is everybody doing? Like? What

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week is this of Everyone's quarantine?
What date is it? It is the

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don't want to age the podcast timeless
thing, but it is the ninth.

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Okay, I think it's been three
and a half weeks to me, what

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about you, John, it will
be just just over three weeks, yeah,

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yeah, four years? Oh go. Literally, I'm the thing at

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the bottom of the ocean, absolutely
like in my bath worn away. At

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least do you have a bath?
I don't have a bath. I know.

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I mean other people like who on
my story probably wish I didn't have

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a bath absolutely correct into like a
thing. I think people people are going

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to study baths and history and you're
gonna there's gonna be a picture of you

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in one. I'm just gonna be
fossilized in it. I'm gonna be like

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literally wrinkled, like I'm gonna be
one of those things, just frozen over

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something in the polar ice caps,
like a fossil. Just I do feel

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a bit weird whenever I dip my
toes in that. I think a few

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every time. Josh, when did
you fall in love with baths? Where

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did your relationship with baths begin?
It's so funny because actually as a child,

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I hated baths. That's not funny. Well you should know why.

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Okay, I'm drink um. But
like I when I moved into my house

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in my land, I just I
was in a really deep bath um and

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like I just really got I was
like, oh my God, for me,

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like this is super relapsing, like
in a way that I hadn't experienced

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before. And I think I was
going through a little moment personally, like

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I don't know like I just was
kind of in a in a point in

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my life, I was feeling a
bit discombobulated, and the bath was just

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definitely a clear point of relaxation.
And I'm not even in it that well,

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Actually that's a life. When I
first started having them, I being

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them for like fifteen twenty minutes.
Now I could be in it for an

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hour and a half. But um, well I literally start and this might

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creep people out, but I literally
start the bath so hot, like basically

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entire hot top flash of cold.
And if I leave it once like I've

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left it a little, I'll put
a kettle in, a kettle plugged in.

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Why why not a little bit of
spice exactly? Um, this is

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my seventh life. Had a few
more of that. Um, it's a

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real bath vizza. Um, but
yeah, I put anything in it.

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Then do you ever get in a
bath of like something else? Do you

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ever fill it with something other than
water? Yeah, calm no, I'm

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jaking. That was a really cold
back. It took years. Could you

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imagine it would be Oh no,
I don't. Let's not imagine milk or

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yogurt or something. Oh yeah,
I would be open to try and get

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Um, and I've got to make
your own bath bomb um kit. So

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I'm gonna start making my own bath
bombs. So watch this space if anyone

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wants a little bit of Josh willisy
with them in the bath waiting. Thank

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god. Terrifying. Um. But
yeah, like it has been. I

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think this week is definitely the one
that spun me out a bit like me

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and now nearly broke up earlier this
week because he didn't make me a cup

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of tea. I you know,
I packed my bags and I said,

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I'm going to my mom's. I'm
not doing this. I'm spending the rest

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of the quantity with my mom and
I'm not fucking doing this. Um.

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Literally, it was because a cup
of tea hasn't been made, but we

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both used it an opportunity, like
I'm doing more in the house. I'm

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doing right, I've been buying toilet
paper. Oh who's been buying the shower?

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Jil it was and yeah, I
packed three bags um and then like

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I was like then I went on
like a walk and then I was kind

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of like raging, but like he
was like, let's talk about this.

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I was like, we'll talk once
I've passed. And then and then and

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then I was like, I can't
believe you're not going to try and stop

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me. And then and then I
could be kind of like thinking, shoot,

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and I was like, do you
know what, I'm not I'm not

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I'm not going to do it.
But then we both kind of started laughing

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about it was ridiculous. Oh no, I made a risk of rante.

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And then he was like, look, I'm sorry, I didn't make a

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cup of tea. I'm like,
you're not sorry. You just want some

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of this pizza and he did.
Yeah. So it's definitely been an emotionally

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fragile week for myself. Oh sweet, how about what Jamie, honey,

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how have you been coping this whole
quarantine more men, miss Quarantina? She

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has been I don't know. Do
you know what? In that first week,

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I was like, get that fire
exit door. I was like,

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I'm done. And now I've got
into like a routine. I'm kind of

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fine, but it's still kind of
like taking one activity that you would do

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in your day that would literally take
an hour maximum and eating it out for

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literal like eight hours. Today I
decided to throw literally every piece of makeup

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that I own on my face and
see if it looks all right, and

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how does it lave? I'm actually
raging. This is in a video chat.

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I can confirm that if you do
that, it will not come off

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your face, So that's fun.
I've been also trying to recreate frosty coffees

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from outside in the world, because
that's the one big gay thing I miss.

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I'm iced coffee. It's just never
the same when you make it yourself.

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Love a coffee because I bumped into
you in like the I've bumbed into

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you with a few coffee shops,
haven't I like the one outside of the

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BBC? Do you remember we love
yeah my palace? Truly a few times?

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You love a coffee, don't you. I've seen a lot of people

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trying to get experimental with it.
I know it's just too much. I'm

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now I just cannot be bothered with
it anymore. And my gym workouts in

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the park are just not hitting the
spot. Look like a fool. I'm

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under a willow tree and I'm just
crying for a bit, and then I

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started chain smoking, and then I
just walk home. Oh my god,

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how are you making this exercise workout? Sounds so chic and elegant. I'm

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absolutely crying and smoking under a willow
tree. The EP is coming soon.

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Oh my god. The artwork would
literally Garga found shaking. What do we

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think about the CHROMATICA artwork? I
mean, it's fine, isn't it.

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I look, when it comes down
to it, I don't want to be

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unpleasant because I got a lot in
a lot of trouble for calling Kydie Minogue

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an old pixie lot at that time. I hate crime. Yeah, what

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I'm going to say is that it
just looks like it looks like someone like

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Ava Max has sort of like killed
Lady Gaga and warn her as a mask

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and is trying to sort of present
to the world what people think Lady Gaga

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should be. Wow, you need
to walk. Just just got back from

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a run. Actually I also did
a run today, not to humble brag.

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I love it. I think it
looks so fucking chice, and I

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love the actual whole concept of the
album. Although everything seems to be quite

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fucking pink, like I thought it
was CHROMATICA. It's like, can we

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see something other than the pink color? I don't. I don't like pink.

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I think the gays ruined it.
Because I saw it and the first

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time I saw it on Twitter with
someone saying this is what it looks like

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forget it's once you've been plowed and
they just leave your house straight away.

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Yeah, it's very kind of waiting
for the towel lean and you're sort of

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trying to work out if, like
if what's coming, if you're about to

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fart or if you do, you're
gonna make shit? Oh absolutely, cream

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Pie Central. Wow, do you
know what? I'll tell you what the

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gates have been like like thirsty of
than ever. Oh my god. Like

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I'm literally like I've had to mute
a few gals because it's like I'm not

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at the office, but this is
n s f W. I'm seeing absolute

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hole. Honey. I can see
when we had the lunch, but I'm

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someone needs to stop me because like
I've got Insto stories and I've got close

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friends, i mean inst stories,
and I know she's got a green ring.

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I've got a little green ring,
and you know, and but not

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really getting anything other than like a
little bit of a little bit of a

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hello, you know, but what
do you mean by a hello? Can

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we can we get a bit of
detail on that? Well? You know,

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just like no you can't, yeah, exactly. But the thing is,

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honestly, I'm probably about eight days
away from just like full full shaft.

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Only people are doing a lot of
dick neck at the moment, aren't

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they. Like they're trying to like
really just like not with like with out

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being going full blown. Yeah,
they're just trying to be a provocateur.

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Yeah, Like they're just showing like
that sort of hint of like vain exactly.

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And it's like, go downstairs and
watch fucking like pointless with you nan,

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this is too much. Get a
Disney place a subscription watch the Rescuers

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down Under or something. Oh god, I see a tweet, didn't I

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see a tweet from you guy saying
that you've got a lot of promises to

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keep from Oh my god, Oh
my god, I'm gonna have to have

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a schedule I've been doing because people
are like, oh, you know,

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when this is over, you're gonna
fuck you senseless, And you're like,

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oh, yeah, totally, yeah, I'm there, but like I'm not

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gonna have time all these people I've
told, but like they'll be my first

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when it finishes, like I've promised
myself. Like it's like a virgin and

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a dowry in medieval villages, like
I promised them, like my first quarantine

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sexual experience, as if like as
if the moment it gets announced, I'm

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not going to be like I don't
know what I'm going to do. I'm

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just, oh, my god,
do you know what I handle it?

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You're all doing it wrong because I
the on the first week of lockdown,

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went from my scenic walk in the
park and I found a secluded spot,

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sat down chain smoke under the willow
tree, and I literally got a message

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on grinder being like I can see
you, and I was like, I

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mean, I forgot my sharpier,
don't I don't know how to sign an

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autograph from the barroom like not now
a bitches, And people people fully cruising

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in my parks now that are like
not a gay area and then suddenly bam,

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stick everywhere, dick it everywhere.
Family parks. We kind of love

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to see it. And there was
always this guy who was always trying to

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get me to come out, like
into the park because I lived by it,

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and I was always like, do
you want to come in? Do

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you want to come in? Because
it's quite cold up there. A last

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that was yeah, like literally just
stunned there at the door with a bottle

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of poppers. I'm sure that's a
fetish somewhere. Straight cat, it's a

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fury thing. Um, But what
about dick through the letter box? Did

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you see that screen grab of someone
like who wants to fo? Yeah?

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I was really annoyed that someone leaked
my grinder. No stop, oh wait,

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wait a minute, mister, but
that's an absolutely Have you also seen

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the things where people have been like, um high post thanks to dropping off

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like packages, we've disinfected our flaps
for you. Yeah, absolutely literally please

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day three, apologies, stop thinking
about your hair, guy, and I'm

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just wondering if you're still still in
your kitchen. Oh yeah, I'm actually

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Can I just say while we're on
that, guy, the lighting in your

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kitchen is really bad. You look
like yellow. I'm sorry. I didn't

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want to I didn't want to drop
it on the time. I don't want

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the podcast not on the timeline.
You just for one of a better term

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a funny tinge. No, I
love that lighting. And also we don't

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exactly mode. Some of us need
actual like light. And I think I

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look lovely, so you look stun
in But can I do you know I

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looked best in the dark, No, golden our those remember those holiday pictures

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when so many of them were like
kind of like Golden Hour. Do you

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remember where did you go? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I was really

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really I was in Portugal. I
think I was in Portugal. I was

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in Lisbon. It's hard, it's
it's hard for me to remember where I've

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been because we know, I traveled
so much for my international international profession,

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and I just did pop over places, you know, it's just hard.

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No, I think that was either
Italy or France or maybe Portugal's all over

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the place. Guy. Have we
spoken on the podcast since your interview with

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miss Kim Kardashian West came up about
it? Yeah? Yeah, I had

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a little chat with Kim Kardashian.
But last time since I was since I

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was here last I was in the
same room, also on my bed talking

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to Kim Kardashian. She sends her
love, She says she loves on the

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lapt has listened to every episode.
She said Carne introduced it to her.

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Oh my god, I'll say no
more. Yeah, he loves it too.

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It was very fun. Actually it
was as one can imagine it was,

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you know, in in in kind
of journal in celebrity journalism, like

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you know, if you know you
have to kind of promise not to speak

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to someone about certain things, and
usually with most people, you know,

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you say, oh no, you
know, I'm a journalist, Like,

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I'm not going to give you my
questions in advance, so I'm not going

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to like keep things off off the
agenda. I'll ask whatever I want to

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ask. But with Kim, and
with Kim when they say she'll only talk

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about her law her law work,
You're like, fine, no problem,

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and then may call you. It
was lovely she was. I really liked

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her. She was on her treadmill
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time. Heals probably in heals in
her home, jim Um with the kids

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in another you know, part of
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Actually it really made me wonder why
I'm wasting my time on the phone

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to people like you. He wants
me absolutely wowney. No, the amount

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of things like I've helped many many
people in prison. Okay, what the

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conjugal visits? Yeah right, I've
been writing to them for you and Jake.

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Haven't dear ted Bundy. I want
a second Dick and he never wrote

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back. I think he's dead.
Oh my god. You want to hear

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a really dark story and this is
actually unreflection dot. I don't know if

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it's too dark. I used to
have this friend at school. I'm about

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fourteen. Anyway, she had this
boyfriend who was much older. Um,

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and you know at the time when
you're literally when you have older boyfriends,

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you actually don't realize you're being that
you're the victim of abuse or yes,

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you're like you know that you actually
you've been groomed or whatever. Yeah,

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I know the gaze can relate sad, but basically she was. It was

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very dark. But basically he was
writing letters to her house from prison.

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But then I think her parents clocked
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prison to our house. So exactly, I only found out this years later

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because my mom every letter that came
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went straight in the bin. But
how fucked up is that? Anyway?

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Sorry, next week on Crime Watch
he's dead now probably, Um, so

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let's talk about Dui liepah. Yeah, because he missed out on number one

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last week and I'm upolutely pressed about
it. You know what I have lots

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of thoughts on Julie, but purely
because I normally get on with the gays,

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and by gays, I mean Jack
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pod, friend of the pod,
And I just don't agree that levitating it's

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as good as everyone thinks it is. See, I do love levitate.

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I'm a hallucinate girl. I love
hallucinate, But levitate is more like we're

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stuck in the house. Hallucinate is
passing me the poppers, like she's absolutely

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on one call, make like we're
having a big night. Um where it

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was her like her Levitate is a
like it's a it's quarantine box. It's

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you walk around the streets tapping your
fat. Hopefully she's listening, because I

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just don't think that she deserves the
cult status that she has no offense.

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I used to agree with you.
Actually I did find her very very bland.

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But I do like a lot of
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think she's really delivering, and I
think that I do. My concern is

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that, you know, when all
those kind of viral videos are sort of

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mocking her lack of charisma or energy
or any choreographic choreographic talent or whatsoever,

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or vocal ability or whatever everything basically, but a pop star needs pee.

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She was told she didn't have and
for her to kind of come back and

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be like, well, here you
are. Actually, I think that's really

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cool. I think that's like bullying
works, you know. She's Yeah,

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she definitely addressed the haters like I
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like for example, she just did
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show awesomething and it was like from
home and like I don't know how they

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managed to do. It was like
an effect where a band were there and

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I watched it and it bit me. Was like, honey, I know

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you're at home, but you can
stand up. Jojo has been singing live

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from home and she's been stood up
like your like, you can stand up.

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It's okay, Jo smashing it.
I love. I mean, I've

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got to say, John, you
are going out with like a Jojo Stan

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I've heard is every time I turn around,

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it is this JoJo's playing. It's
a it's a lot. But yeah,

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she actually might move out too.
You might move out? Is it

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not look more for you? Um? But yeah, like no, JoJo's

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been really smashing it. I saw
something about Stacey Solomon. Solomon has been

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funny, actually stays been, She's
been at it. Appreciate it's making me

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imnational. Carry on, It's so
nice to meet you, Stacy. How

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I stop? She's so cute seal
pop Oh my god? But yeah,

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no, I mean get the number
one this week? Do you miss Duller

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people? I think deserved. Remind
me what who beat her to it?

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Last time? It was like,
I don't know, I hate to the

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elephant in the room. I am
nearly ten years younger than all of you.

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Um oh no, just I remember
when. I remember when they came

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out and I was like, how
dare a group of straight boys appear on

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the music scene and not even a
piss slightly gay at least one direction.

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There was rumors of them all fucking
so I was like, that's fine,

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five seconds of summer. Well that's
all we're going to get this year,

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honey day, the cruel irony that
is your lot, blinking you miss it?

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God? I keep doing like really
stupid, like I'm in a you

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know, I'm very very lucky.
I still have a job, and I'm

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I'm so grateful for that. But
I sort of Initially I was like,

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oh my god, I'm going to
save money because I'm not going out for

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dinner and drinking and doing all this
and that. And then like I buy

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three kimonos online and like one hundred
and fifty quid because I'm going to be

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out for summer. And then it's
like, what am I? Why am

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I telling myself that I need speedos
and kimono cardigans. I'm not leaving the

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house. Wait, hold up one
minute. Is it a kimono a kimono

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cardigan, because a kimono chic,
a kimono cardivent cardigan. I'm just intrigued.

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when it's kind of the thing is

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it's not a kimono because it's not
an actual traditional Japanese dressing own, but

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a geisha would wear. Um,
it's sort of like, well, a

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one is dusky pink, one is
camel, and one is a beautiful sort

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of um multicolored knit. And they're
sort of like baggy sleeved kimono shaped cardigans.

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Right, But I like to wear
around the house or would you like

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go outside in them? If I
think so, Like, I mean,

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I'll have to show you a picture
of one of them. I'll just watch

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that for you, or something on
the chin, or yeah, i'll wear

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it with I'll wear it with skinny
jeans and gladiatorscendals when I'm going to Tesco.

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Oh honey, yeah, that sounds
like an absolute horn lot, madam.

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But also whenever I buy anything on
a sauce like everyone has, like

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everyone who's wearing them is obviously wearing
them with no T shirt on, and

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they have obviously a six pack.
Shit, And so I dream that maybe

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I'll look like that in a kimono
cardigan, and actually, of course I

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won't. I'll look like I'll look
like that English teacher who definitely like fuck

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one of the students. Oh my
god, I mean, guy, you

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don't need the kimono for that,
and stop trying to relive that fantasy of

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that English tutor that you want to
go. I remember that. Okay,

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what a nice reminder. Oh my
god, god, guy, Oh my

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god. That works with the days, Jamie. Have you bought anything kind

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of wild or have you been doing
any online shop one? Do you know

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the only thing I nearly bought was
a flashlight? Oh my god, do

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you know what I knew you were
going to say that because I literally was

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saying to Nial the table to Um
like everyone's getting them, everyone's getting them

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truly. But then it was of
that point start that Um was outed as

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a tory, and I was like, I can't do it. I can't.

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I can't suck a fleshlight of someone's
fake arts if I know that the

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real arts of the person has about
it from Bois Johnson, we'rey during the

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momentum, Have I probably just said
that, Um, she's a top she

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is a messy fum top um.
Yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna I'm

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just texting now get Megan Markle off
the cover and again again. Um No.

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I've been trying really really hard not
to buy clothes, probably because um,

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I don't understand that emotion. I
don't understand buying clothes unless it arrives

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and it's free. I don't understand, never heard of it. I didn't

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even know that most people paid for
clothes. And also, on a real

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note, I've been trying to no
offense guy not buy from a sauce just

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because the way that they were being
tickheads. Yeah, I've been thinking about

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that a lot, and I am
weighed it and I decided I wanted a

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kimono more. Um no, no, no, I I do. Actually

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I bought it yesterday and I immediately
felt guilty and pledged not to make any

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further purchases. However, Um,
that's very easy to say when you've already

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bought it. Very true. I
just sent us a picture of this kimono

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cardigan. Can I just point out
that it's just a cardigan? No?

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No, I'm imagining it looking like
a Lisa Rena swiffer. It's like it's

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quite long. It's longer than it
looks there. No, it's not.

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It's do you know what? It's
an open breast wall. Carlican so uh

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calls it a kimono. So and
if it got you to buy it,

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then good for them, exactly,
Like, how have you because yeah,

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like you just kind of said that
obviously you ain't buying at the mo like

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as like as somebody who's working freelance. How are you navigating this whole brave

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new world, Jamie? Um,
do you know what it was? Really?

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I remember the first so the week
before lockdown, where we were kind

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of all slightly on edge but didn't
really know what was going to happen.

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That was probably the most stressful because
it was a time where like most of

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the people that I know are self
employed or freelance, and we were all

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just collectively sharing how our calendars for
the next month are just like disintegrated um.

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But everyone else currently who was in
what I like to call traditional employment

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was still business as usual. And
I think it's in a weird, in

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a very weird and probably selfish way. It's quite nice to see those people

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struggling a bit because it feels like
everyone is in the same boat. But

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I will say that like the LGBT
scene and the charity sector specifically has been

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so good in not canceling and not
so like for example, like panels or

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talks or things that were supposed to
happen have still gone on and they've still

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been able to like a create that
resource and be pay their speakers. So

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it's been fine. It's been challenging, but we move. I guess I

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don't know those things that if you
sit and you sit and think about it,

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you're just like cry and end up
buying a flashlight. So a tory

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hole truly factortorious, you were literally
facritorious. Truly. It got many a

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time unfortunately. One time, ie, one guy had a picture of Magaret

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Thatcher next to his bed and I
made eye contact with during the end.

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Well, I told you about that
vicar, didn't I on this podcast that

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I was seeing this vicar like a
couple of times and then I went up

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for a break up and then like
I like had a like he like was

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like he messaged me. We went
for a wine bar. He was a

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vicar in like, um, I
shouldn't say the area, but it was

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posh like West London. Stayed at
the vicarage next day living room. I

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saw a picture of that. I
was literally like, oh my god,

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honey, what have I done?
Fool? That's what was playing on the

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organ. So yeah, I feel
your pain, but I didn't intentionally do

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it. No, it's not like
it's not always evident. No, exactly.

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Actually with the fags because I think
I said this before, but I

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think if I like saw guile and
I out, I would think he was

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a Tory. Yeah, people sometimes
do you think I'm Tory? The long

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hair, an obnoxious attitude, but
yeah, and it's the fake posh accent,

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you know, yeah fake, Yeah, it's fake as that blesh light

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that was never born. I have
a I have a full confession this whole

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this whole podcast. I have just
been scrolling all the way to the bottom

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of guys Instagram. Oh my god, everything absolutely in love. I think

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we should play a game called guests, which pitched. I'm on God,

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so everyone listening, I'm aren't at
Guy Peusy and like Jamie, you can

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scroll down all the day too.
I don't know where I've actually just been.

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Start on this one of you on
a hay bale for about Oh my

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god, I love that. It
was so Shania Twain, my friend do

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you like me? And Josh to
Glow. No, no, I'm on

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the Instagram as well. Now,
my friend he grew up on a farm,

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and so we all went down to
go to the farm for the weekend.

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And we get there and my friend
has always sort of claimed to sort

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of be working class, which is
I don't care about class. You can

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be whatever class you want, but
he's always kind of pushed himself as a

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working class. We get there,
there's like a fleet of audis outside barn

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number eighth, and I'm just like, we're just like feeding the fifty cows

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or whatever it is. Oh my
god, you. That's an absolute serve,

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Like I'm ready to have a role
around in the sucking stack. Yeah,

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I really love I've already liked that
one clearly. Oh my god.

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Um with the days, my god, I mean you were really glowing March

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twenty Yeah, I think. I
think March nineteen was very very patriate mode

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for me. Also, not to
blow too much smoke up your ars,

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but very into the the adidast picture
with fast is a feeling and smiling at

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me. Oh my god, that
is very It's how I started getting into

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running. I went to this really
fun evening with Addidas and they gave me

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a lovely pair of shoes and now
I run, which is great. Hashtag

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spawn. Really have you got fast
as a feeling as a trump stump?

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But I have. I've booked a
tattoo while like, while we're in isolation,

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what are you gonna get? I'm
gonna get like this, like it's

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quite I can't really just well I
can't. It's it's a fern, but

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like because I like the I like
ferns um, but it's sort of Britain.

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Yeah yeah, like around my whole
just like, oh my god,

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oh my god. Tune into the
Happy podcast for wholesome content. Yeah,

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00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:35.039
Britain sort of just like and like
like but kind of buy the crab ladder

404
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:47.719
bit oh bla bladder prison anyway,
So it's a fern. Yeah, it's

405
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:53.039
gonna be on my upper arm um, and this amazing tattoo artist is going

406
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.079
to do it for me because actually, like I know where where I mean,

407
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.920
I'm being indulgent from minute, but
this is quite important, you know.

408
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.519
I emailed her and just said,
like I was going to book a

409
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.519
tattoo with you in later in the
year, but shall I book it with

410
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.559
you now and give you the money
now? And she was like that would

411
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:15.280
be amazing. Thank you, so
really good. So I think that people

412
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:21.159
just need to remember, like you
know, if if the restaurant or bookshop

413
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.719
or whatever is closed, but like
check are they doing vouchers? Are they

414
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.800
doing some form of like buy now, pay later process? Like these places

415
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:32.599
won't be there when you when you
get back if you if you don't,

416
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.760
if you don't support them, I
absolutely agree. And if you're like me

417
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.840
who actually does have still lucky enough
to be getting paid and is unlucky enough

418
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.280
to not be able to leave the
bucking House, and like to spend it

419
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:51.320
on like absolute nonsense. Then you
do have more money to support independent people

420
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.519
and yeah and creative, you know. I like shout out to Charlie Crags

421
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:59.599
who's just set up a Patreon.
I am now a Patreon supporter. Um

422
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:06.119
and I'm looking to support queer people
through this period. And I think really

423
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:12.000
like that's what this kind of family, a family of people, a community

424
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.599
should be about, kind of trying
to support people if possible. Um.

425
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.920
So I love that guy, and
it's you know, it's it's again.

426
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.880
It's it's been on Twitter today and
the last couple of days about just the

427
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:31.920
LGBTQ spaces were already struggling to survive
and I think a big one in Brighton

428
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:37.599
has kind of announced liquidation today and
again, so they look at these queer

429
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.880
spaces like if are they hosting live
events online? Are they doing things that

430
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.440
will put money their way? And
can you support that like it's important or

431
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:53.760
just be vain like me and get
a tattoo? No, but I mean

432
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:59.400
I'm here for that. Like,
is has Quarantina been a back to when

433
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:01.159
you getting good tattoo? Was it
kind of giving you the push you needed?

434
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:05.440
Yeah? I mean, I'd wanted
it for ages, but I've never

435
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.440
really kind of got round to kind
of booking it. And to be perfectly

436
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:13.280
honest, boredom is going to be
the absolute death of me. Boredom will

437
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.559
mean I book a tattoo. It
will mean I show my hole on Maine.

438
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:22.920
Do you know what I mean?
It's like I'm gonna kill me.

439
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:28.639
I know. I think it does
drive people to destruction, doesn't it.

440
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:36.480
For sure? You know this kind
of just to feel something. I keep

441
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.239
seeing like going to you know,
big going to the Big Saints, just

442
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.920
to feel something. But like it's
very that like you know, like you

443
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.239
are just doing something to kind of
get a bit of a boat. Yeah,

444
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.679
um, yes I did that in
Big Sainsburies. I just went around

445
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.280
the clothing rails for no reason and
then bought a new pair of pajamas just

446
00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:00.880
to feel something, oh lovely,
and just sat on the floor for a

447
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:09.920
bit where very date I live in, uh near Tooting, lovely, very

448
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.079
nice. Um, do you know
what? Do you know? Do you

449
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:16.440
know what I found? So I
don't know where my voice went there?

450
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:22.960
Do you know what I found?
It's so fucking gay around here that I've

451
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.559
been like what's happening? Who are
you? And I don't just mean gay,

452
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.840
I mean famous gay, Like what
do I mean famous gay? I

453
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.800
mean, um, I mean like
my tear of gay, like the Jack

454
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:49.719
Remington tear like everyone everyone knows,
um, just like famous what's his name?

455
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:59.119
Tom? Tom Taylor illustrated And then
our picture for um yeah on the

456
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:06.079
match did we picture? Yeah?
Yeah, he did so funny we went

457
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.239
in like week one, I've lockdown. I went to the shop to buy

458
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:15.119
fags my one outly trip and he
came up to me and just flashed his

459
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.880
leg at me and then we stood
outside or just smoking two meters apart,

460
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.039
when it's so nice to speak to
another gay, so nice and bye bye

461
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:30.400
and then leave me now. And
then there's the cruising in the park.

462
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.920
And then there's my favorite is the
gaze in Sainsbury's that you accidentally end up

463
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:40.639
following and see every aisle but you
know that I don't really at the moment,

464
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:53.400
Yeah, just someone off in the
can through aisle. The produce the

465
00:39:53.480 --> 00:40:02.000
pandemic on Oh my god, feel
has been upsween in like um like pandemic

466
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.360
porn do we know? I mean, how can they be as inn like

467
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:14.679
themed? Well, those studios can't
record, so um true, but that

468
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:19.280
point that point had Premium is free, and I'll tell you what it's it's

469
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.119
not. It's not that good.
I mean, what does it do that

470
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.800
normal porn have doesn't. That's the
only thing that I found that's hilariously different

471
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.800
is you can watch ones if you
have a VR headset that specifically designed for

472
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.360
you to watch in a VR headset, which I just don't fight because if

473
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.000
you can't see outside of your eyes
with a headset on, what if everyone's

474
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:45.840
just walked in that would absolutely be
very stressful vine fold on you'd have to

475
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.599
that is creepy. Actually yeah,
it's almost you can get them in like

476
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.360
what is it? Four K?
You know that where it's just so detailed.

477
00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:02.599
I'm not I don't need to that
detailed pause on his bellot ah wow.

478
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.880
Um yeah, that's like when drag
Race went HD and it was like

479
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:16.800
who asked? You know, no
one needed it. Um there's poor fus

480
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.119
queens because they really got hit with
the brunt of it. I think,

481
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:27.840
oh god, awforfor But like,
um so, like obviously Jamie, like

482
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.400
you were saying that a lot of
things have like like LGBT organizations have kind

483
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.719
of say stronger terms of bookings.
But Pride season is going to be so

484
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.039
wild, like without the being a
Pride Do you think more of it's going

485
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:45.159
to be online? And do you
think more people will kind of be seeking

486
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.480
that kind of looking to kind of
people like yourself, we are really visible

487
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.239
online and how do you actually feel
about that? Yeah? Do you know

488
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:57.800
what I've I always have a weird
relationship with Pride, Like I enjoy it,

489
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:01.760
but I do find it. My
relationship with with it now has changed

490
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:07.199
a lot since when when I first
started going, because now it feels quite

491
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.039
I don't know, it's quite intense. It's quite like to be someone that

492
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:17.280
is visible and has a platform,
it can become quite a intense time.

493
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.039
And I think what I've seen is
a lot of people are turning it digital,

494
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:28.840
which I'm really enjoying. So there's
like I've seen charities kind of like

495
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.519
what I like is seeing all the
small charities being like we're doing DIGGI Pride

496
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.119
or we're doing like a Pride festival
online kind of like the thing that Mermaids

497
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:44.159
did the last weekend and just kind
of creating an event which actually it's potentially

498
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:50.599
even more accessible than actual Pride.
So although the day of Pride, it's

499
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.559
potentially going to be October or in
the in the latter of the year,

500
00:42:53.679 --> 00:43:00.960
and we can see all the twinks
freeze. In that case, I'm dwink

501
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.119
because it's like a bitch, I
not got to wear my shorts and you

502
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.480
best believe this hole is going to
be out. I'm going to be an

503
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:14.320
assler's chat. First, the first
Lindon Pride I ever went to was the

504
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.880
one that I did with you with
the megaphone. I was about to say,

505
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.440
yeah, we first, that's how
we first kind of and it ruined

506
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:27.559
for me. You're like, never
again, get that bag off the screen.

507
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.280
So yeah, no, I'm really
I mean, I think enjoying is

508
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:37.159
the wrong word, but it's it's
nice to see people adapting um in a

509
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:42.920
way that's actually making the event that
was canceled potentially even more accessible anyway.

510
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.840
UM, So I'm intrigued. I'm
intrigued, and I think that makes sense

511
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:53.599
around an intensity because I think like, as somebody who is like hyper visible

512
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.039
like talking about your own gender identity
and being non binary, I think like

513
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.800
you probably are one of the most
like foremost or um, yeah, like

514
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.079
visible, I would say people here
in the UK. And I think that

515
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:13.840
in itself, just by simply being
yourself is the kind of the feedback that

516
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.440
you get. Some of it can
be positive, but that even when it

517
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.039
is positive, there's an intensity behind
that, right, yeah, exactly.

518
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.800
And like a lot of the stuff
that I do is because my background is

519
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:30.519
in fashion and fashion business and marketing
and that's kind of my background. So

520
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.599
a lot of the and as a
model, like a lot of the stuff

521
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:42.280
that I get is very commercial lad
and essentially capitalists. So it's it's a

522
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:46.320
very interesting time and it's a very
tricky period of time to navigate because on

523
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.800
one hand, I'm like, make
a caught in and the other hand I'm

524
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:55.639
like, fuck off, am I
going to promote your rainbow flashlight? So

525
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:07.519
part of me is grateful, So
part of the part of me is glad

526
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.559
about that. But then I mean
it's I don't know, it's I do

527
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.519
feel a bit sad because I think
for pride a lot of people, it

528
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:19.840
is a time you know, when
people don't have the opportunity to be out

529
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:24.079
and pride is there one day.
Um, So that's that's sad um.

530
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:29.639
And I mean, also it's sad
that I don't get to get pissed on

531
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.199
a float again, because that was
truly one of I know it sounds really

532
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.960
bad, but I walk up and
down the Pride route literally every day,

533
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:43.559
and not to get wild, but
like I get so much like public abuse

534
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:45.800
and shit on those streets. So
for me, Pride's really nice to go

535
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:51.000
down that street and be like,
not fuck you, I'm having the best

536
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:55.480
time mood. So I will miss
that euphoria, but who knows, maybe

537
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:04.280
I'll just stand on my roof and
drink champagne. Oh yeah, like reclaim

538
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.519
that space, because I do think
pride is a bit of that is about

539
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:14.199
actually physically reclaiming a space and being
very like physically they're on mass, like

540
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:20.639
this is ours, this is who
we are through major cities throughout the world.

541
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.280
Um. But it is really interesting
what you're saying, particularly around like

542
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:30.079
many prides just aren't accessible for those
with disabilities or those with social anxiety who

543
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.039
don't like the crowd, those who
just perhaps don't feel like a place in

544
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:39.519
like the politics the politicians, like
how prides are politicized in different places.

545
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.559
So I do think like lots of
things. It offers an opportunity for pride

546
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.559
to appeal and engaged with different people. But yeah, there's definitely going to

547
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:55.760
be something. Yeah, you couldn't. I don't know, it's just a

548
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.639
bit I just can't. I keep
going through waves of just it's just it's

549
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.679
just relive. We actually right now
and I'm like, oh no, yeah,

550
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.320
and now like the thrill of queuing
up at coup two meters behind,

551
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:13.599
everyone's just now not as exciting.
I'm like, oh hi, yeah again.

552
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.480
I mean everyone's going to go off
the rails. That's the thing that

553
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.920
I keep thinking the video they let
us out, people are going to absolutely

554
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:29.000
lose it. Yeah. I do
think use this opportunity to, you know,

555
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.920
if you are financially stable, like
order your prep now because you're gonna

556
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:42.920
you're gonna get Has anybody like started
doing like taking up a new hobby or

557
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.519
something they're enjoying. Since I know
there's like a lot of stuff online about

558
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.119
don't you don't have to use this
time productively which is one hundred percentury,

559
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.119
Like if you want to sit on
your arse and binge, Netflix absolutely go

560
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:57.280
off a bit about that. That
is kind of getting on my nerves that

561
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.079
messaging, because like for every person
who's saying you don't have to be productive,

562
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.280
like la la lah, there's somebody
who actually fucking does have to be

563
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.800
productive for whatever reason. I think
there is a like a low key like

564
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:15.039
I understand everybody's going through it.
If you're not as productive as you normally

565
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.800
are, Hello, that's like the
world we're living in, And I get

566
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:22.519
that. But then there are levels
to it where like a lot of people

567
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.679
still have like like they're still trying
to work a full time job, they've

568
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.920
still got kids at home, and
so I definitely think it comes from a

569
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.719
place of you're not doing anything and
that's okay for you, but you don't

570
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.719
like you're not under duress to do
anything by a capitalist structure, a boss

571
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.800
who's really being difficult, kids who
are around you while you're trying to work.

572
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.519
So I do think it is an
important message for people to if you're

573
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.440
not as productive as you normally are, be kind to yourself. But then

574
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.559
I think sometimes it can be overwrought
because particularly for a lot of people,

575
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.639
if they aren't crafting, then they
aren't making any money and they can't survive.

576
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.760
So it's a tricky one. Do
you know anyway? My question?

577
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:07.880
What you mean? My question?
Question? Do you remember the question?

578
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.800
The question again? What hobby?
Was it? All? Right? Have

579
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.599
you started? Have you started?
Have you started doing anything you would normally

580
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:19.400
fucking do? It's what I want
to know. Yes, oh no,

581
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.639
just running. Running is new for
me, but that's it. Yeah,

582
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:32.519
not really. I mean I've been
doing Joe Wicks. No have you guys

583
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:39.239
it's Joe Wicks. Oh do you
know what? I tweeted the other day

584
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:45.079
saying that Russell brand is Joe Wicks
is warrior, Like they are like the

585
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.880
polar opposite, Like he's the like
the anti. He's just like I know,

586
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:53.079
he's I know, he's like on
the surface anointing. But I don't

587
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.199
mind, you know, I just
think just twenty minutes doing a few squats,

588
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.159
like there's mounting knas what I do
you call them? And I'm good

589
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.559
to go. It makes me feel
like I've done something so that I could

590
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.199
do that without having fucking Joe Wicks
yell at year do you know what I

591
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.239
mean? And I like what you're
doing for all the kids, pe lass,

592
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.840
I mean, I mean it's good
for primary school kids, Like if

593
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:22.320
you were like you know, no, I'm not doing those ones. But

594
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.760
PE used to be torturous, so
like you couldn't get me to do PE

595
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.679
when I was at school. So
there'll be a lot of kids like,

596
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:31.199
nah, do you know what,
I'm not going to watch that YouTube video?

597
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:38.039
And I was that whole. If
I was a child these days,

598
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.679
I would not be logging onto YouTube
learning. I would absolutely be on that

599
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.239
plex. I would be chaging my
friends, stirring up drama, like you

600
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:52.840
know, just doing like like it's
like you've just got a twelve week holiday

601
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:59.400
for yeah, exam, I've just
like been cooking more. I've literally,

602
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.360
oh my god, you've been making
some delicious shit. I have. I've

603
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.800
least we've been procrastinating about cooking and
cooking. Like today, I was like,

604
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.280
right, I'm gonna go make some
brownies. And I started thinking about

605
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:14.440
that at like ten o'clock this morning, and I literally had to rush to

606
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.760
finish them to go and record the
podcast at half past six. All day,

607
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.039
I've just literally sat around and yeah, I did those brownies in a

608
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.119
minute. And then somehow I've managed
to lose eight hours of my life.

609
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:31.880
Oh my god, fucking hell,
how good are these brownies, brownies falling

610
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:38.800
away at the bone. But yeah, I'm I'm going to drop a food

611
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:45.559
blog. I've been wanting to do
it for ages. So yeah, that's

612
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:53.079
that's my Nigella watch out, that's
my quarantine jam That's what I'm doing my

613
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.639
hustle. Well, do you know
what? I think? People really are

614
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.679
looking towards food and baking and it's
those things that I'm like, I did

615
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.000
a kind of thing yesterday on Instagram, like what are the best things about

616
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:08.239
actually being in Lockdown and staying in? And that was one of the main

617
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.960
answers, Like, yeah, cooking
and and and and being able to like

618
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.559
just spend a bit more time thinking
about what you're eating and enjoying that whole

619
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:21.039
process. Oh yeah, shout out
to Jack Munroe who's absolutely smashed Lockdown by

620
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:25.519
the way, looked down new show
coming, And you know what, like

621
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:31.079
I've got to say about was that
did you no? That was the Pride

622
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:36.360
before Jamie. They came on the
March for Stonewall the year before, I

623
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:43.159
think, And again they're so nice
to actually see them actually like, you

624
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.440
know, go big. They're going
mainstream. They are, They've got their

625
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:52.199
own show and it's actually really good
to see from both just like an LGBT

626
00:52:52.280 --> 00:53:00.639
pers but they've also a class perspect
totally. Um, so you're I should

627
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:02.079
I don't. I don't know if
I should say this. I made brownies

628
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:08.519
as well this weekend. Why shouldn't
you say that? Banana bread? Yeah,

629
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:13.760
I'm making banana bread. I just
bought too many bananas. It's like

630
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.239
what we're gonna do with these?
And it's easy and it tastes good and

631
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.519
you can tell yourself and it's healthy
because it's got fruit in it. Yeah,

632
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:22.880
certainly, and no one else is
getting fruit in their mama, so

633
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:36.119
we're not my god, desperate times, desperate measures, fucking ridiculous. Um.

634
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:39.880
Like I'm kind of intrigued to know
what's everybody's one bit of like,

635
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:45.639
Um, I don't want to say
advice, but yeah, like what's the

636
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.519
one thing. Yeah, I will
say advice. What's the one bit of

637
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:53.320
advice you would give to the girls
about kind of quarantina going into week four?

638
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.199
Um? I look, I really
don't want to be that wanker because

639
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:06.320
like I hate this, but like
I really had like like going out for

640
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.760
my like a run, like going
and taking my hour and having the exercise

641
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:15.480
has like if if if, I
am saying it is what's kept me saying

642
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.599
m h and I hated running before, but now it's such a treat to

643
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:29.239
get out. Also, um flashlights. Oh great, well you've just taken

644
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:37.400
someone else's thank you. I actually, I don't think I have any advice,

645
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:42.280
to be honest, because I'm fucking
useless. But I've I don't honestly

646
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.519
don't know what I've done with my
wheat. But it's gone really fast.

647
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:54.159
Shit, it's only Thursday. Yeah, it's flown. I don't really know.

648
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:58.320
I don't have any advice, Jamie, do you have any advice?

649
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.920
My advice is do you know what? I wrote a piece shameless plug this

650
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:07.840
week for Metro about how what's got
me out of the funk is getting into

651
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:14.960
my best clothes of a day.
So I do, I do my gym,

652
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:20.400
willow tree, chain smoke, come
home and then protect I literally get

653
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.480
ready as if I'm about to leave
the house, keep the slippers on,

654
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.079
and then just sit at the desk
and then go about the day. And

655
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:34.880
then by the time I faffed around
and chosen what latex turtleneck to wear,

656
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:42.480
I love that. What color is
it? Yellow. And it's also a

657
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.880
great thing to do if you have
a ball gown, if you have any

658
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:50.599
gowns, any old wedding dresses.
The trains are so long that if you

659
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.360
need to social distance that's two meters, they can't come any closer to you

660
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.039
the ideal. So yeah, get
dressed into your phone in a ballgown.

661
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:07.960
I'd love to see it. I
love that swashing round Sainsbury's. Oh my

662
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:15.000
god, throwing the bouquet but no
one can pick it up. I don't

663
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.320
even know why I asked this question, because I've literally got no fucking advice.

664
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:27.639
Um oh yeah, I would say
my advice is that it's it's kind

665
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.599
of I know, it's kind of
a bit contradictory because I've just said,

666
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.440
um, you know, you don't
have to do anything, but it's just

667
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:37.519
about actually being kind to yourself a
bit. I think, like this whole

668
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.719
week, I have been going through
it but almost holding myself to the standards

669
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:45.960
of emotional resilience that I would on
a day to day basis. But actually,

670
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:52.719
honey, she's going through it.
She's being erratic and the things that

671
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:57.679
did bring me joy, you know, check on your extroverted friends. I

672
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:06.840
would say that. I was like, they like, because for a lot

673
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:10.639
of people, like there are people
who are homebodies, and actually this this

674
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:14.320
won't be that thing. But for
a lot of people, actually a lot

675
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.639
of their joys or where they get
a lot of joy is being around all

676
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.639
these and a lot of how they
see themselves is like really closely linked to

677
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:27.519
being a part of other people's lives
or whatever. And so I think,

678
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.559
just like check on the people that
you think, oh that'll be all right,

679
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:36.199
yeah, because I saw something that
maybe it may be rationalized it this

680
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:39.360
week. Is that not to not
for it to sound too wild, butever,

681
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:45.280
they were like, this is actually
like a very traumatic event. And

682
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.519
I think often like social media and
things that that can make us kind of

683
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:53.440
feel quite lighthearted about it, but
it's actually like a incredibly unique, like

684
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:59.880
once in a lifetime potentially hopefully like
traumatic experience. And I think the way

685
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.480
that we react to that often we
have no idea what that reaction is going

686
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.239
to be. Um, so yeah, echo that Josh, be kind of

687
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:14.639
a wank. Yeah, go one
better get a flashlight. Um, I

688
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.039
should say this is the point where
we should talk about plugging plug plug plug,

689
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:23.840
because baby we're talking about guys Insta, but Jamie underscore wind Dust like

690
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:30.320
your Insta is an absolute gem to
behold. It is amazing, thinks better.

691
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.079
But you know what, um,
I will make you do a makeup

692
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.079
tutorial this week we've had me cackling. I watched the first like minute or

693
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:39.960
so, and then I was like, I'm never going to do this.

694
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:44.719
I'm telling it off so well,
I watched the whole thing and I wasn't

695
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:49.280
going to do it either, So
thanks a bitch. Is that every single

696
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:53.760
game that I know will re emerge
from Quarantina with my faith and then we

697
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:57.880
can. But it's one of those
things that I like to think it's funnier

698
00:58:57.920 --> 00:58:59.960
than I put it out, and
I'm like, God, that's so embarrassing,

699
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.840
But um no, they're fucking hilarious
and they are getting views, madame.

700
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.559
Truly, my favorite thing to see
is that it's got the same amount

701
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:20.559
of views um as the population of
my homophobic hometown. It's an absolute gagarino.

702
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.920
And I've been loving your throwbacks as
well. You know what, some

703
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:30.480
of them. I've got one from
that pride we did just being new a

704
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:37.840
moment in time. Um, but
people gag over the old pictures just because

705
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:43.360
they literally look like probably the type
of school child that would have had sex

706
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:53.039
with guy as an English teacher.
Oh, we all have iconic social media

707
00:59:53.079 --> 01:00:00.320
presences, truly, backs follow,
um, but how else can we support?

708
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.800
Can we keep your book doing busy? That's the other thing that I

709
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:12.000
kind of want to ask that.
Yeah, and do you know what I

710
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.039
mean? I've set up a Patreon, but I haven't used it yet,

711
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.599
so that's pointless. Um. Well, honey, I'm going to stay tuned

712
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:22.960
for it because I'm ready. I'm
kind of just periodically. The thing that's

713
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:28.559
getting me through is like with my
writing, if it seemed to be doing

714
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.800
successfully and if people like it,
that's more likely for me to get commissioned

715
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:37.119
again. So engaged with engaged with
my content. That's not just my face.

716
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.960
It's what I always try and say, because a lot of people like

717
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.840
my face. But honey, those
swipe ups they tell the true story.

718
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:49.079
If you're not looking at the swept
up, you're only getting half the story

719
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:54.079
because no one cares for the written
content. But if I'm up here stars

720
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:58.400
of my face, they all fucking
go into a coma. So well,

721
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.000
yeah, but do you know what
you're such a wonderful writer as well,

722
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:07.320
and that's not just me like bomb
licking like you are. Joy. Thanks

723
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:15.119
m yeah, thanks whoa? Okay? And John, when are you dropping

724
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:19.679
the food blog? And do you
have any ideas on the name? Oh?

725
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.360
Um, no, where am I
dropping it? Probably at the beginning

726
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:28.280
the next week. I've been fanning
around with a word press site, which

727
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:35.840
is really difficult by the way,
Um, and name TBCs and you can

728
01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:44.159
do your picks and food. Yeah, I'll bear that in mind. Your

729
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:49.519
males look like you're dip. Yes, they could just be gorgeous photography,

730
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.639
but just like with a tiny bit
of your cock in every single like just

731
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:58.440
a slight shaft or just like this
bella nestled in a salad like whatever?

732
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:05.800
Um, what studying idea is going
to be a gay listening? Like?

733
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:10.159
Do you know what? The naked
chef? Hot two? This bit the

734
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:19.760
remix in the remix, the jump
off. Right, let's wrap this baby

735
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:22.199
up. Curry is on the way. My curry's almost here. Have you

736
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:27.400
already ordered it? In bed?
I'm in bed after my shower, after

737
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.840
my run, and I'm just ordering
a new delivery. It's delicious, honey,

738
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.760
I'm doing. I know I've mentioned
it, but I'm doing Duck Color,

739
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:46.039
Ronge Tonight, full Baby, Homemaker
Back. Ladies, Um, you're

740
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:50.800
in. You're in a committed relationship. You can bear back if you want.

741
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:58.800
I know, I um, but
tea, you know, I've got

742
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:02.599
to get dinner on. Well.
Thank you so so much for being a

743
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.000
part of this podcast. You've been
in an absolute dream. I want you

744
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.800
back. Thank you. Do you
know? And not to again to harp

745
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:13.239
on about guy but I never knew
that that's what your voice was like.

746
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:22.760
And it's really framed mesten. Do
you know what you if you're just listening

747
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:28.880
to the episodes where guys not there
join the club. I used to listen

748
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:31.320
to it at the very beginning.
I used to listen to at the start,

749
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:37.920
and now I'm like, wherever the
where have they all gone? We've

750
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:45.079
killed them? Well? Thank you
all, Yeah, thank you so much

751
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:49.800
for coming on. Thank you Jamie, thank love you guys. It's been

752
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:54.760
nice to speak to people. All
right. If you want to follow us,

753
01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:02.440
then please on the Latch on Twitter, was on my God, it's

754
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:10.320
on the Latch on and on the
Latch podcast on instaff. Yeah, we

755
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.639
don't really do anything on instidy.
Well, I'm going to start trying to.

756
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:18.000
I'm going to try and get it
going again. Um, you can

757
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:23.639
post my kitchen selfies with terrible yellow
lighting. I was, you just need

758
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:27.719
a bit of vs vcso you just
need to bring that up. I would

759
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.800
do a bit of saturation just to
give you a bit of warmth. Um.

760
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:39.039
So mean, I was, so
you've ruined it. No, you're

761
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:46.639
look like a decrepid pixie lot um. Yes, um, but yeah,

762
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.360
thank you so much for tune in
and make sure that actually you are asking

763
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:53.599
us questions in the Curious Cat.
I think we've actually got one or two

764
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:56.719
questions and Curious Cat, So we're
going to do an episode where we answer

765
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:00.159
some of your quarantine questions. UM, probably in the next couple of days.

766
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:04.320
Um. But yeah, thanks for
tuning in. I hope you stay

767
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:08.840
safe, look after one another.
Um and yeah, that's less thing.

768
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:16.880
Bye bye bye. Yeah h