Hi, everybody. I'm welcome to a very very special episode of on the
Large Quarantina Dish. It's your boy, the Black Aphrasier, Joshi Willisy,
Hi, Thanky, it's and it's me at Guy Puzy And today we have
an incredibly special guest icon influence her Fashion Mogul, creat Fruitcake Magazine, all
around, good time gal and actually one of the realm spitches out there.
It's Jamie Windows. Good evening, good morning, Hello, wherever you are.
She's international Fashion Mogul. I love that. Thank you for that.
I appreciate that. I love it, and I am a real bit in
all senses of the word, really like you said, um, and we're
going to get into it today. How is everybody doing? Like? What
week is this of Everyone's quarantine? What date is it? It is the
don't want to age the podcast timeless thing, but it is the ninth.
Okay, I think it's been three and a half weeks to me, what
about you, John, it will be just just over three weeks, yeah,
yeah, four years? Oh go. Literally, I'm the thing at
the bottom of the ocean, absolutely like in my bath worn away. At
least do you have a bath? I don't have a bath. I know.
I mean other people like who on my story probably wish I didn't have
a bath absolutely correct into like a thing. I think people people are going
to study baths and history and you're gonna there's gonna be a picture of you
in one. I'm just gonna be fossilized in it. I'm gonna be like
literally wrinkled, like I'm gonna be one of those things, just frozen over
something in the polar ice caps, like a fossil. Just I do feel
a bit weird whenever I dip my toes in that. I think a few
every time. Josh, when did you fall in love with baths? Where
did your relationship with baths begin? It's so funny because actually as a child,
I hated baths. That's not funny. Well you should know why.
Okay, I'm drink um. But like I when I moved into my house
in my land, I just I was in a really deep bath um and
like I just really got I was like, oh my God, for me,
like this is super relapsing, like in a way that I hadn't experienced
before. And I think I was going through a little moment personally, like
I don't know like I just was kind of in a in a point in
my life, I was feeling a bit discombobulated, and the bath was just
definitely a clear point of relaxation. And I'm not even in it that well,
Actually that's a life. When I first started having them, I being
them for like fifteen twenty minutes. Now I could be in it for an
hour and a half. But um, well I literally start and this might
creep people out, but I literally start the bath so hot, like basically
entire hot top flash of cold. And if I leave it once like I've
left it a little, I'll put a kettle in, a kettle plugged in.
Why why not a little bit of spice exactly? Um, this is
my seventh life. Had a few more of that. Um, it's a
real bath vizza. Um, but yeah, I put anything in it.
Then do you ever get in a bath of like something else? Do you
ever fill it with something other than water? Yeah, calm no, I'm
jaking. That was a really cold back. It took years. Could you
imagine it would be Oh no, I don't. Let's not imagine milk or
yogurt or something. Oh yeah, I would be open to try and get
Um, and I've got to make your own bath bomb um kit. So
I'm gonna start making my own bath bombs. So watch this space if anyone
wants a little bit of Josh willisy with them in the bath waiting. Thank
god. Terrifying. Um. But yeah, like it has been. I
think this week is definitely the one that spun me out a bit like me
and now nearly broke up earlier this week because he didn't make me a cup
of tea. I you know, I packed my bags and I said,
I'm going to my mom's. I'm not doing this. I'm spending the rest
of the quantity with my mom and I'm not fucking doing this. Um.
Literally, it was because a cup of tea hasn't been made, but we
both used it an opportunity, like I'm doing more in the house. I'm
doing right, I've been buying toilet paper. Oh who's been buying the shower?
Jil it was and yeah, I packed three bags um and then like
I was like then I went on like a walk and then I was kind
of like raging, but like he was like, let's talk about this.
I was like, we'll talk once I've passed. And then and then and
then I was like, I can't believe you're not going to try and stop
me. And then and then I could be kind of like thinking, shoot,
and I was like, do you know what, I'm not I'm not
I'm not going to do it. But then we both kind of started laughing
about it was ridiculous. Oh no, I made a risk of rante.
And then he was like, look, I'm sorry, I didn't make a
cup of tea. I'm like, you're not sorry. You just want some
of this pizza and he did. Yeah. So it's definitely been an emotionally
fragile week for myself. Oh sweet, how about what Jamie, honey,
how have you been coping this whole quarantine more men, miss Quarantina? She
has been I don't know. Do you know what? In that first week,
I was like, get that fire exit door. I was like,
I'm done. And now I've got into like a routine. I'm kind of
fine, but it's still kind of like taking one activity that you would do
in your day that would literally take an hour maximum and eating it out for
literal like eight hours. Today I decided to throw literally every piece of makeup
that I own on my face and see if it looks all right, and
how does it lave? I'm actually raging. This is in a video chat.
I can confirm that if you do that, it will not come off
your face, So that's fun. I've been also trying to recreate frosty coffees
from outside in the world, because that's the one big gay thing I miss.
I'm iced coffee. It's just never the same when you make it yourself.
Love a coffee because I bumped into you in like the I've bumbed into
you with a few coffee shops, haven't I like the one outside of the
BBC? Do you remember we love yeah my palace? Truly a few times?
You love a coffee, don't you. I've seen a lot of people
trying to get experimental with it. I know it's just too much. I'm
now I just cannot be bothered with it anymore. And my gym workouts in
the park are just not hitting the spot. Look like a fool. I'm
under a willow tree and I'm just crying for a bit, and then I
started chain smoking, and then I just walk home. Oh my god,
how are you making this exercise workout? Sounds so chic and elegant. I'm
absolutely crying and smoking under a willow tree. The EP is coming soon.
Oh my god. The artwork would literally Garga found shaking. What do we
think about the CHROMATICA artwork? I mean, it's fine, isn't it.
I look, when it comes down to it, I don't want to be
unpleasant because I got a lot in a lot of trouble for calling Kydie Minogue
an old pixie lot at that time. I hate crime. Yeah, what
I'm going to say is that it just looks like it looks like someone like
Ava Max has sort of like killed Lady Gaga and warn her as a mask
and is trying to sort of present to the world what people think Lady Gaga
should be. Wow, you need to walk. Just just got back from
a run. Actually I also did a run today, not to humble brag.
I love it. I think it looks so fucking chice, and I
love the actual whole concept of the album. Although everything seems to be quite
fucking pink, like I thought it was CHROMATICA. It's like, can we
see something other than the pink color? I don't. I don't like pink.
I think the gays ruined it. Because I saw it and the first
time I saw it on Twitter with someone saying this is what it looks like
forget it's once you've been plowed and they just leave your house straight away.
Yeah, it's very kind of waiting for the towel lean and you're sort of
trying to work out if, like if what's coming, if you're about to
fart or if you do, you're gonna make shit? Oh absolutely, cream
Pie Central. Wow, do you know what? I'll tell you what the
gates have been like like thirsty of than ever. Oh my god. Like
I'm literally like I've had to mute a few gals because it's like I'm not
at the office, but this is n s f W. I'm seeing absolute
hole. Honey. I can see when we had the lunch, but I'm
someone needs to stop me because like I've got Insto stories and I've got close
friends, i mean inst stories, and I know she's got a green ring.
I've got a little green ring, and you know, and but not
really getting anything other than like a little bit of a little bit of a
hello, you know, but what do you mean by a hello? Can
we can we get a bit of detail on that? Well? You know,
just like no you can't, yeah, exactly. But the thing is,
honestly, I'm probably about eight days away from just like full full shaft.
Only people are doing a lot of dick neck at the moment, aren't
they. Like they're trying to like really just like not with like with out
being going full blown. Yeah, they're just trying to be a provocateur.
Yeah, Like they're just showing like that sort of hint of like vain exactly.
And it's like, go downstairs and watch fucking like pointless with you nan,
this is too much. Get a Disney place a subscription watch the Rescuers
down Under or something. Oh god, I see a tweet, didn't I
see a tweet from you guy saying that you've got a lot of promises to
keep from Oh my god, Oh my god, I'm gonna have to have
a schedule I've been doing because people are like, oh, you know,
when this is over, you're gonna fuck you senseless, And you're like,
oh, yeah, totally, yeah, I'm there, but like I'm not
gonna have time all these people I've told, but like they'll be my first
when it finishes, like I've promised myself. Like it's like a virgin and
a dowry in medieval villages, like I promised them, like my first quarantine
sexual experience, as if like as if the moment it gets announced, I'm
not going to be like I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm
just, oh, my god, do you know what I handle it?
You're all doing it wrong because I the on the first week of lockdown,
went from my scenic walk in the park and I found a secluded spot,
sat down chain smoke under the willow tree, and I literally got a message
on grinder being like I can see you, and I was like, I
mean, I forgot my sharpier, don't I don't know how to sign an
autograph from the barroom like not now a bitches, And people people fully cruising
in my parks now that are like not a gay area and then suddenly bam,
stick everywhere, dick it everywhere. Family parks. We kind of love
to see it. And there was always this guy who was always trying to
get me to come out, like into the park because I lived by it,
and I was always like, do you want to come in? Do
you want to come in? Because it's quite cold up there. A last
that was yeah, like literally just stunned there at the door with a bottle
of poppers. I'm sure that's a fetish somewhere. Straight cat, it's a
fury thing. Um, But what about dick through the letter box? Did
you see that screen grab of someone like who wants to fo? Yeah?
I was really annoyed that someone leaked my grinder. No stop, oh wait,
wait a minute, mister, but that's an absolutely Have you also seen
the things where people have been like, um high post thanks to dropping off
like packages, we've disinfected our flaps for you. Yeah, absolutely literally please
day three, apologies, stop thinking about your hair, guy, and I'm
just wondering if you're still still in your kitchen. Oh yeah, I'm actually
Can I just say while we're on that, guy, the lighting in your
kitchen is really bad. You look like yellow. I'm sorry. I didn't
want to I didn't want to drop it on the time. I don't want
the podcast not on the timeline. You just for one of a better term
a funny tinge. No, I love that lighting. And also we don't
exactly mode. Some of us need actual like light. And I think I
look lovely, so you look stun in But can I do you know I
looked best in the dark, No, golden our those remember those holiday pictures
when so many of them were like kind of like Golden Hour. Do you
remember where did you go? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I was really
really I was in Portugal. I think I was in Portugal. I was
in Lisbon. It's hard, it's it's hard for me to remember where I've
been because we know, I traveled so much for my international international profession,
and I just did pop over places, you know, it's just hard.
No, I think that was either Italy or France or maybe Portugal's all over
the place. Guy. Have we spoken on the podcast since your interview with
miss Kim Kardashian West came up about it? Yeah? Yeah, I had
a little chat with Kim Kardashian. But last time since I was since I
was here last I was in the same room, also on my bed talking
to Kim Kardashian. She sends her love, She says she loves on the
lapt has listened to every episode. She said Carne introduced it to her.
Oh my god, I'll say no more. Yeah, he loves it too.
It was very fun. Actually it was as one can imagine it was,
you know, in in in kind of journal in celebrity journalism, like
you know, if you know you have to kind of promise not to speak
to someone about certain things, and usually with most people, you know,
you say, oh no, you know, I'm a journalist, Like,
I'm not going to give you my questions in advance, so I'm not going
to like keep things off off the agenda. I'll ask whatever I want to
ask. But with Kim, and with Kim when they say she'll only talk
about her law her law work, You're like, fine, no problem,
and then may call you. It was lovely she was. I really liked
her. She was on her treadmill while she was speaking to me the whole
time. Heals probably in heals in her home, jim Um with the kids
in another you know, part of the house. No, it was great.
Actually it really made me wonder why I'm wasting my time on the phone
to people like you. He wants me absolutely wowney. No, the amount
of things like I've helped many many people in prison. Okay, what the
conjugal visits? Yeah right, I've been writing to them for you and Jake.
Haven't dear ted Bundy. I want a second Dick and he never wrote
back. I think he's dead. Oh my god. You want to hear
a really dark story and this is actually unreflection dot. I don't know if
it's too dark. I used to have this friend at school. I'm about
fourteen. Anyway, she had this boyfriend who was much older. Um,
and you know at the time when you're literally when you have older boyfriends,
you actually don't realize you're being that you're the victim of abuse or yes,
you're like you know that you actually you've been groomed or whatever. Yeah,
I know the gaze can relate sad, but basically she was. It was
very dark. But basically he was writing letters to her house from prison.
But then I think her parents clocked on, so he started writing letters from
prison to our house. So exactly, I only found out this years later
because my mom every letter that came she could see where it came from,
went straight in the bin. But how fucked up is that? Anyway?
Sorry, next week on Crime Watch he's dead now probably, Um, so
let's talk about Dui liepah. Yeah, because he missed out on number one
last week and I'm upolutely pressed about it. You know what I have lots
of thoughts on Julie, but purely because I normally get on with the gays,
and by gays, I mean Jack Remington, Um, friend of the
pod, friend of the pod, And I just don't agree that levitating it's
as good as everyone thinks it is. See, I do love levitate.
I'm a hallucinate girl. I love hallucinate, But levitate is more like we're
stuck in the house. Hallucinate is passing me the poppers, like she's absolutely
on one call, make like we're having a big night. Um where it
was her like her Levitate is a like it's a it's quarantine box. It's
you walk around the streets tapping your fat. Hopefully she's listening, because I
just don't think that she deserves the cult status that she has no offense.
I used to agree with you. Actually I did find her very very bland.
But I do like a lot of her new songs, and I do
think she's really delivering, and I think that I do. My concern is
that, you know, when all those kind of viral videos are sort of
mocking her lack of charisma or energy or any choreographic choreographic talent or whatsoever,
or vocal ability or whatever everything basically, but a pop star needs pee.
She was told she didn't have and for her to kind of come back and
be like, well, here you are. Actually, I think that's really
cool. I think that's like bullying works, you know. She's Yeah,
she definitely addressed the haters like I do. Like I as a live performer,
like for example, she just did something on like the Jimmy fallon live
show awesomething and it was like from home and like I don't know how they
managed to do. It was like an effect where a band were there and
I watched it and it bit me. Was like, honey, I know
you're at home, but you can stand up. Jojo has been singing live
from home and she's been stood up like your like, you can stand up.
It's okay, Jo smashing it. I love. I mean, I've
got to say, John, you are going out with like a Jojo Stan
Yeah. I mean it's literally all I've heard is every time I turn around,
it is this JoJo's playing. It's a it's a lot. But yeah,
she actually might move out too. You might move out? Is it
not look more for you? Um? But yeah, like no, JoJo's
been really smashing it. I saw something about Stacey Solomon. Solomon has been
funny, actually stays been, She's been at it. Appreciate it's making me
imnational. Carry on, It's so nice to meet you, Stacy. How
I stop? She's so cute seal pop Oh my god? But yeah,
no, I mean get the number one this week? Do you miss Duller
people? I think deserved. Remind me what who beat her to it?
Last time? It was like, I don't know, I hate to the
elephant in the room. I am nearly ten years younger than all of you.
Um oh no, just I remember when. I remember when they came
out and I was like, how dare a group of straight boys appear on
the music scene and not even a piss slightly gay at least one direction.
There was rumors of them all fucking so I was like, that's fine,
five seconds of summer. Well that's all we're going to get this year,
honey day, the cruel irony that is your lot, blinking you miss it?
God? I keep doing like really stupid, like I'm in a you
know, I'm very very lucky. I still have a job, and I'm
I'm so grateful for that. But I sort of Initially I was like,
oh my god, I'm going to save money because I'm not going out for
dinner and drinking and doing all this and that. And then like I buy
three kimonos online and like one hundred and fifty quid because I'm going to be
out for summer. And then it's like, what am I? Why am
I telling myself that I need speedos and kimono cardigans. I'm not leaving the
house. Wait, hold up one minute. Is it a kimono a kimono
cardigan, because a kimono chic, a kimono cardivent cardigan. I'm just intrigued.
Well, you know what I say when it's kind of the thing is
it's not a kimono because it's not an actual traditional Japanese dressing own, but
a geisha would wear. Um, it's sort of like, well, a
one is dusky pink, one is camel, and one is a beautiful sort
of um multicolored knit. And they're sort of like baggy sleeved kimono shaped cardigans.
Right, But I like to wear around the house or would you like
go outside in them? If I think so, Like, I mean,
I'll have to show you a picture of one of them. I'll just watch
that for you, or something on the chin, or yeah, i'll wear
it with I'll wear it with skinny jeans and gladiatorscendals when I'm going to Tesco.
Oh honey, yeah, that sounds like an absolute horn lot, madam.
But also whenever I buy anything on a sauce like everyone has, like
everyone who's wearing them is obviously wearing them with no T shirt on, and
they have obviously a six pack. Shit, And so I dream that maybe
I'll look like that in a kimono cardigan, and actually, of course I
won't. I'll look like I'll look like that English teacher who definitely like fuck
one of the students. Oh my god, I mean, guy, you
don't need the kimono for that, and stop trying to relive that fantasy of
that English tutor that you want to go. I remember that. Okay,
what a nice reminder. Oh my god, god, guy, Oh my
god. That works with the days, Jamie. Have you bought anything kind
of wild or have you been doing any online shop one? Do you know
the only thing I nearly bought was a flashlight? Oh my god, do
you know what I knew you were going to say that because I literally was
saying to Nial the table to Um like everyone's getting them, everyone's getting them
truly. But then it was of that point start that Um was outed as
a tory, and I was like, I can't do it. I can't.
I can't suck a fleshlight of someone's fake arts if I know that the
real arts of the person has about it from Bois Johnson, we'rey during the
momentum, Have I probably just said that, Um, she's a top she
is a messy fum top um. Yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna I'm
just texting now get Megan Markle off the cover and again again. Um No.
I've been trying really really hard not to buy clothes, probably because um,
I don't understand that emotion. I don't understand buying clothes unless it arrives
and it's free. I don't understand, never heard of it. I didn't
even know that most people paid for clothes. And also, on a real
note, I've been trying to no offense guy not buy from a sauce just
because the way that they were being tickheads. Yeah, I've been thinking about
that a lot, and I am weighed it and I decided I wanted a
kimono more. Um no, no, no, I I do. Actually
I bought it yesterday and I immediately felt guilty and pledged not to make any
further purchases. However, Um, that's very easy to say when you've already
bought it. Very true. I just sent us a picture of this kimono
cardigan. Can I just point out that it's just a cardigan? No?
No, I'm imagining it looking like a Lisa Rena swiffer. It's like it's
quite long. It's longer than it looks there. No, it's not.
It's do you know what? It's an open breast wall. Carlican so uh
calls it a kimono. So and if it got you to buy it,
then good for them, exactly, Like, how have you because yeah,
like you just kind of said that obviously you ain't buying at the mo like
as like as somebody who's working freelance. How are you navigating this whole brave
new world, Jamie? Um, do you know what it was? Really?
I remember the first so the week before lockdown, where we were kind
of all slightly on edge but didn't really know what was going to happen.
That was probably the most stressful because it was a time where like most of
the people that I know are self employed or freelance, and we were all
just collectively sharing how our calendars for the next month are just like disintegrated um.
But everyone else currently who was in what I like to call traditional employment
was still business as usual. And I think it's in a weird, in
a very weird and probably selfish way. It's quite nice to see those people
struggling a bit because it feels like everyone is in the same boat. But
I will say that like the LGBT scene and the charity sector specifically has been
so good in not canceling and not so like for example, like panels or
talks or things that were supposed to happen have still gone on and they've still
been able to like a create that resource and be pay their speakers. So
it's been fine. It's been challenging, but we move. I guess I
don't know those things that if you sit and you sit and think about it,
you're just like cry and end up buying a flashlight. So a tory
hole truly factortorious, you were literally facritorious. Truly. It got many a
time unfortunately. One time, ie, one guy had a picture of Magaret
Thatcher next to his bed and I made eye contact with during the end.
Well, I told you about that vicar, didn't I on this podcast that
I was seeing this vicar like a couple of times and then I went up
for a break up and then like I like had a like he like was
like he messaged me. We went for a wine bar. He was a
vicar in like, um, I shouldn't say the area, but it was
posh like West London. Stayed at the vicarage next day living room. I
saw a picture of that. I was literally like, oh my god,
honey, what have I done? Fool? That's what was playing on the
organ. So yeah, I feel your pain, but I didn't intentionally do
it. No, it's not like it's not always evident. No, exactly.
Actually with the fags because I think I said this before, but I
think if I like saw guile and I out, I would think he was
a Tory. Yeah, people sometimes do you think I'm Tory? The long
hair, an obnoxious attitude, but yeah, and it's the fake posh accent,
you know, yeah fake, Yeah, it's fake as that blesh light
that was never born. I have a I have a full confession this whole
this whole podcast. I have just been scrolling all the way to the bottom
of guys Instagram. Oh my god, everything absolutely in love. I think
we should play a game called guests, which pitched. I'm on God,
so everyone listening, I'm aren't at Guy Peusy and like Jamie, you can
scroll down all the day too. I don't know where I've actually just been.
Start on this one of you on a hay bale for about Oh my
god, I love that. It was so Shania Twain, my friend do
you like me? And Josh to Glow. No, no, I'm on
the Instagram as well. Now, my friend he grew up on a farm,
and so we all went down to go to the farm for the weekend.
And we get there and my friend has always sort of claimed to sort
of be working class, which is I don't care about class. You can
be whatever class you want, but he's always kind of pushed himself as a
working class. We get there, there's like a fleet of audis outside barn
number eighth, and I'm just like, we're just like feeding the fifty cows
or whatever it is. Oh my god, you. That's an absolute serve,
Like I'm ready to have a role around in the sucking stack. Yeah,
I really love I've already liked that one clearly. Oh my god.
Um with the days, my god, I mean you were really glowing March
twenty Yeah, I think. I think March nineteen was very very patriate mode
for me. Also, not to blow too much smoke up your ars,
but very into the the adidast picture with fast is a feeling and smiling at
me. Oh my god, that is very It's how I started getting into
running. I went to this really fun evening with Addidas and they gave me
a lovely pair of shoes and now I run, which is great. Hashtag
spawn. Really have you got fast as a feeling as a trump stump?
But I have. I've booked a tattoo while like, while we're in isolation,
what are you gonna get? I'm gonna get like this, like it's
quite I can't really just well I can't. It's it's a fern, but
like because I like the I like ferns um, but it's sort of Britain.
Yeah yeah, like around my whole just like, oh my god,
oh my god. Tune into the Happy podcast for wholesome content. Yeah,
Britain sort of just like and like like but kind of buy the crab ladder
bit oh bla bladder prison anyway, So it's a fern. Yeah, it's
gonna be on my upper arm um, and this amazing tattoo artist is going
to do it for me because actually, like I know where where I mean,
I'm being indulgent from minute, but this is quite important, you know.
I emailed her and just said, like I was going to book a
tattoo with you in later in the year, but shall I book it with
you now and give you the money now? And she was like that would
be amazing. Thank you, so really good. So I think that people
just need to remember, like you know, if if the restaurant or bookshop
or whatever is closed, but like check are they doing vouchers? Are they
doing some form of like buy now, pay later process? Like these places
won't be there when you when you get back if you if you don't,
if you don't support them, I absolutely agree. And if you're like me
who actually does have still lucky enough to be getting paid and is unlucky enough
to not be able to leave the bucking House, and like to spend it
on like absolute nonsense. Then you do have more money to support independent people
and yeah and creative, you know. I like shout out to Charlie Crags
who's just set up a Patreon. I am now a Patreon supporter. Um
and I'm looking to support queer people through this period. And I think really
like that's what this kind of family, a family of people, a community
should be about, kind of trying to support people if possible. Um.
So I love that guy, and it's you know, it's it's again.
It's it's been on Twitter today and the last couple of days about just the
LGBTQ spaces were already struggling to survive and I think a big one in Brighton
has kind of announced liquidation today and again, so they look at these queer
spaces like if are they hosting live events online? Are they doing things that
will put money their way? And can you support that like it's important or
just be vain like me and get a tattoo? No, but I mean
I'm here for that. Like, is has Quarantina been a back to when
you getting good tattoo? Was it kind of giving you the push you needed?
Yeah? I mean, I'd wanted it for ages, but I've never
really kind of got round to kind of booking it. And to be perfectly
honest, boredom is going to be the absolute death of me. Boredom will
mean I book a tattoo. It will mean I show my hole on Maine.
Do you know what I mean? It's like I'm gonna kill me.
I know. I think it does drive people to destruction, doesn't it.
For sure? You know this kind of just to feel something. I keep
seeing like going to you know, big going to the Big Saints, just
to feel something. But like it's very that like you know, like you
are just doing something to kind of get a bit of a boat. Yeah,
um, yes I did that in Big Sainsburies. I just went around
the clothing rails for no reason and then bought a new pair of pajamas just
to feel something, oh lovely, and just sat on the floor for a
bit where very date I live in, uh near Tooting, lovely, very
nice. Um, do you know what? Do you know? Do you
know what I found? So I don't know where my voice went there?
Do you know what I found? It's so fucking gay around here that I've
been like what's happening? Who are you? And I don't just mean gay,
I mean famous gay, Like what do I mean famous gay? I
mean, um, I mean like my tear of gay, like the Jack
Remington tear like everyone everyone knows, um, just like famous what's his name?
Tom? Tom Taylor illustrated And then our picture for um yeah on the
match did we picture? Yeah? Yeah, he did so funny we went
in like week one, I've lockdown. I went to the shop to buy
fags my one outly trip and he came up to me and just flashed his
leg at me and then we stood outside or just smoking two meters apart,
when it's so nice to speak to another gay, so nice and bye bye
and then leave me now. And then there's the cruising in the park.
And then there's my favorite is the gaze in Sainsbury's that you accidentally end up
following and see every aisle but you know that I don't really at the moment,
Yeah, just someone off in the can through aisle. The produce the
pandemic on Oh my god, feel has been upsween in like um like pandemic
porn do we know? I mean, how can they be as inn like
themed? Well, those studios can't record, so um true, but that
point that point had Premium is free, and I'll tell you what it's it's
not. It's not that good. I mean, what does it do that
normal porn have doesn't. That's the only thing that I found that's hilariously different
is you can watch ones if you have a VR headset that specifically designed for
you to watch in a VR headset, which I just don't fight because if
you can't see outside of your eyes with a headset on, what if everyone's
just walked in that would absolutely be very stressful vine fold on you'd have to
that is creepy. Actually yeah, it's almost you can get them in like
what is it? Four K? You know that where it's just so detailed.
I'm not I don't need to that detailed pause on his bellot ah wow.
Um yeah, that's like when drag Race went HD and it was like
who asked? You know, no one needed it. Um there's poor fus
queens because they really got hit with the brunt of it. I think,
oh god, awforfor But like, um so, like obviously Jamie, like
you were saying that a lot of things have like like LGBT organizations have kind
of say stronger terms of bookings. But Pride season is going to be so
wild, like without the being a Pride Do you think more of it's going
to be online? And do you think more people will kind of be seeking
that kind of looking to kind of people like yourself, we are really visible
online and how do you actually feel about that? Yeah? Do you know
what I've I always have a weird relationship with Pride, Like I enjoy it,
but I do find it. My relationship with with it now has changed
a lot since when when I first started going, because now it feels quite
I don't know, it's quite intense. It's quite like to be someone that
is visible and has a platform, it can become quite a intense time.
And I think what I've seen is a lot of people are turning it digital,
which I'm really enjoying. So there's like I've seen charities kind of like
what I like is seeing all the small charities being like we're doing DIGGI Pride
or we're doing like a Pride festival online kind of like the thing that Mermaids
did the last weekend and just kind of creating an event which actually it's potentially
even more accessible than actual Pride. So although the day of Pride, it's
potentially going to be October or in the in the latter of the year,
and we can see all the twinks freeze. In that case, I'm dwink
because it's like a bitch, I not got to wear my shorts and you
best believe this hole is going to be out. I'm going to be an
assler's chat. First, the first Lindon Pride I ever went to was the
one that I did with you with the megaphone. I was about to say,
yeah, we first, that's how we first kind of and it ruined
for me. You're like, never again, get that bag off the screen.
So yeah, no, I'm really I mean, I think enjoying is
the wrong word, but it's it's nice to see people adapting um in a
way that's actually making the event that was canceled potentially even more accessible anyway.
UM, So I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued, and I think that makes sense
around an intensity because I think like, as somebody who is like hyper visible
like talking about your own gender identity and being non binary, I think like
you probably are one of the most like foremost or um, yeah, like
visible, I would say people here in the UK. And I think that
in itself, just by simply being yourself is the kind of the feedback that
you get. Some of it can be positive, but that even when it
is positive, there's an intensity behind that, right, yeah, exactly.
And like a lot of the stuff that I do is because my background is
in fashion and fashion business and marketing and that's kind of my background. So
a lot of the and as a model, like a lot of the stuff
that I get is very commercial lad and essentially capitalists. So it's it's a
very interesting time and it's a very tricky period of time to navigate because on
one hand, I'm like, make a caught in and the other hand I'm
like, fuck off, am I going to promote your rainbow flashlight? So
part of me is grateful, So part of the part of me is glad
about that. But then I mean it's I don't know, it's I do
feel a bit sad because I think for pride a lot of people, it
is a time you know, when people don't have the opportunity to be out
and pride is there one day. Um, So that's that's sad um.
And I mean, also it's sad that I don't get to get pissed on
a float again, because that was truly one of I know it sounds really
bad, but I walk up and down the Pride route literally every day,
and not to get wild, but like I get so much like public abuse
and shit on those streets. So for me, Pride's really nice to go
down that street and be like, not fuck you, I'm having the best
time mood. So I will miss that euphoria, but who knows, maybe
I'll just stand on my roof and drink champagne. Oh yeah, like reclaim
that space, because I do think pride is a bit of that is about
actually physically reclaiming a space and being very like physically they're on mass, like
this is ours, this is who we are through major cities throughout the world.
Um. But it is really interesting what you're saying, particularly around like
many prides just aren't accessible for those with disabilities or those with social anxiety who
don't like the crowd, those who just perhaps don't feel like a place in
like the politics the politicians, like how prides are politicized in different places.
So I do think like lots of things. It offers an opportunity for pride
to appeal and engaged with different people. But yeah, there's definitely going to
be something. Yeah, you couldn't. I don't know, it's just a
bit I just can't. I keep going through waves of just it's just it's
just relive. We actually right now and I'm like, oh no, yeah,
and now like the thrill of queuing up at coup two meters behind,
everyone's just now not as exciting. I'm like, oh hi, yeah again.
I mean everyone's going to go off the rails. That's the thing that
I keep thinking the video they let us out, people are going to absolutely
lose it. Yeah. I do think use this opportunity to, you know,
if you are financially stable, like order your prep now because you're gonna
you're gonna get Has anybody like started doing like taking up a new hobby or
something they're enjoying. Since I know there's like a lot of stuff online about
don't you don't have to use this time productively which is one hundred percentury,
Like if you want to sit on your arse and binge, Netflix absolutely go
off a bit about that. That is kind of getting on my nerves that
messaging, because like for every person who's saying you don't have to be productive,
like la la lah, there's somebody who actually fucking does have to be
productive for whatever reason. I think there is a like a low key like
I understand everybody's going through it. If you're not as productive as you normally
are, Hello, that's like the world we're living in, And I get
that. But then there are levels to it where like a lot of people
still have like like they're still trying to work a full time job, they've
still got kids at home, and so I definitely think it comes from a
place of you're not doing anything and that's okay for you, but you don't
like you're not under duress to do anything by a capitalist structure, a boss
who's really being difficult, kids who are around you while you're trying to work.
So I do think it is an important message for people to if you're
not as productive as you normally are, be kind to yourself. But then
I think sometimes it can be overwrought because particularly for a lot of people,
if they aren't crafting, then they aren't making any money and they can't survive.
So it's a tricky one. Do you know anyway? My question?
What you mean? My question? Question? Do you remember the question?
The question again? What hobby? Was it? All? Right? Have
you started? Have you started? Have you started doing anything you would normally
fucking do? It's what I want to know. Yes, oh no,
just running. Running is new for me, but that's it. Yeah,
not really. I mean I've been doing Joe Wicks. No have you guys
it's Joe Wicks. Oh do you know what? I tweeted the other day
saying that Russell brand is Joe Wicks is warrior, Like they are like the
polar opposite, Like he's the like the anti. He's just like I know,
he's I know, he's like on the surface anointing. But I don't
mind, you know, I just think just twenty minutes doing a few squats,
like there's mounting knas what I do you call them? And I'm good
to go. It makes me feel like I've done something so that I could
do that without having fucking Joe Wicks yell at year do you know what I
mean? And I like what you're doing for all the kids, pe lass,
I mean, I mean it's good for primary school kids, Like if
you were like you know, no, I'm not doing those ones. But
PE used to be torturous, so like you couldn't get me to do PE
when I was at school. So there'll be a lot of kids like,
nah, do you know what, I'm not going to watch that YouTube video?
And I was that whole. If I was a child these days,
I would not be logging onto YouTube learning. I would absolutely be on that
plex. I would be chaging my friends, stirring up drama, like you
know, just doing like like it's like you've just got a twelve week holiday
for yeah, exam, I've just like been cooking more. I've literally,
oh my god, you've been making some delicious shit. I have. I've
least we've been procrastinating about cooking and cooking. Like today, I was like,
right, I'm gonna go make some brownies. And I started thinking about
that at like ten o'clock this morning, and I literally had to rush to
finish them to go and record the podcast at half past six. All day,
I've just literally sat around and yeah, I did those brownies in a
minute. And then somehow I've managed to lose eight hours of my life.
Oh my god, fucking hell, how good are these brownies, brownies falling
away at the bone. But yeah, I'm I'm going to drop a food
blog. I've been wanting to do it for ages. So yeah, that's
that's my Nigella watch out, that's my quarantine jam That's what I'm doing my
hustle. Well, do you know what? I think? People really are
looking towards food and baking and it's those things that I'm like, I did
a kind of thing yesterday on Instagram, like what are the best things about
actually being in Lockdown and staying in? And that was one of the main
answers, Like, yeah, cooking and and and and being able to like
just spend a bit more time thinking about what you're eating and enjoying that whole
process. Oh yeah, shout out to Jack Munroe who's absolutely smashed Lockdown by
the way, looked down new show coming, And you know what, like
I've got to say about was that did you no? That was the Pride
before Jamie. They came on the March for Stonewall the year before, I
think, And again they're so nice to actually see them actually like, you
know, go big. They're going mainstream. They are, They've got their
own show and it's actually really good to see from both just like an LGBT
pers but they've also a class perspect totally. Um, so you're I should
I don't. I don't know if I should say this. I made brownies
as well this weekend. Why shouldn't you say that? Banana bread? Yeah,
I'm making banana bread. I just bought too many bananas. It's like
what we're gonna do with these? And it's easy and it tastes good and
you can tell yourself and it's healthy because it's got fruit in it. Yeah,
certainly, and no one else is getting fruit in their mama, so
we're not my god, desperate times, desperate measures, fucking ridiculous. Um.
Like I'm kind of intrigued to know what's everybody's one bit of like,
Um, I don't want to say advice, but yeah, like what's the
one thing. Yeah, I will say advice. What's the one bit of
advice you would give to the girls about kind of quarantina going into week four?
Um? I look, I really don't want to be that wanker because
like I hate this, but like I really had like like going out for
my like a run, like going and taking my hour and having the exercise
has like if if if, I am saying it is what's kept me saying
m h and I hated running before, but now it's such a treat to
get out. Also, um flashlights. Oh great, well you've just taken
someone else's thank you. I actually, I don't think I have any advice,
to be honest, because I'm fucking useless. But I've I don't honestly
don't know what I've done with my wheat. But it's gone really fast.
Shit, it's only Thursday. Yeah, it's flown. I don't really know.
I don't have any advice, Jamie, do you have any advice?
My advice is do you know what? I wrote a piece shameless plug this
week for Metro about how what's got me out of the funk is getting into
my best clothes of a day. So I do, I do my gym,
willow tree, chain smoke, come home and then protect I literally get
ready as if I'm about to leave the house, keep the slippers on,
and then just sit at the desk and then go about the day. And
then by the time I faffed around and chosen what latex turtleneck to wear,
I love that. What color is it? Yellow. And it's also a
great thing to do if you have a ball gown, if you have any
gowns, any old wedding dresses. The trains are so long that if you
need to social distance that's two meters, they can't come any closer to you
the ideal. So yeah, get dressed into your phone in a ballgown.
I'd love to see it. I love that swashing round Sainsbury's. Oh my
god, throwing the bouquet but no one can pick it up. I don't
even know why I asked this question, because I've literally got no fucking advice.
Um oh yeah, I would say my advice is that it's it's kind
of I know, it's kind of a bit contradictory because I've just said,
um, you know, you don't have to do anything, but it's just
about actually being kind to yourself a bit. I think, like this whole
week, I have been going through it but almost holding myself to the standards
of emotional resilience that I would on a day to day basis. But actually,
honey, she's going through it. She's being erratic and the things that
did bring me joy, you know, check on your extroverted friends. I
would say that. I was like, they like, because for a lot
of people, like there are people who are homebodies, and actually this this
won't be that thing. But for a lot of people, actually a lot
of their joys or where they get a lot of joy is being around all
these and a lot of how they see themselves is like really closely linked to
being a part of other people's lives or whatever. And so I think,
just like check on the people that you think, oh that'll be all right,
yeah, because I saw something that maybe it may be rationalized it this
week. Is that not to not for it to sound too wild, butever,
they were like, this is actually like a very traumatic event. And
I think often like social media and things that that can make us kind of
feel quite lighthearted about it, but it's actually like a incredibly unique, like
once in a lifetime potentially hopefully like traumatic experience. And I think the way
that we react to that often we have no idea what that reaction is going
to be. Um, so yeah, echo that Josh, be kind of
a wank. Yeah, go one better get a flashlight. Um, I
should say this is the point where we should talk about plugging plug plug plug,
because baby we're talking about guys Insta, but Jamie underscore wind Dust like
your Insta is an absolute gem to behold. It is amazing, thinks better.
But you know what, um, I will make you do a makeup
tutorial this week we've had me cackling. I watched the first like minute or
so, and then I was like, I'm never going to do this.
I'm telling it off so well, I watched the whole thing and I wasn't
going to do it either, So thanks a bitch. Is that every single
game that I know will re emerge from Quarantina with my faith and then we
can. But it's one of those things that I like to think it's funnier
than I put it out, and I'm like, God, that's so embarrassing,
But um no, they're fucking hilarious and they are getting views, madame.
Truly, my favorite thing to see is that it's got the same amount
of views um as the population of my homophobic hometown. It's an absolute gagarino.
And I've been loving your throwbacks as well. You know what, some
of them. I've got one from that pride we did just being new a
moment in time. Um, but people gag over the old pictures just because
they literally look like probably the type of school child that would have had sex
with guy as an English teacher. Oh, we all have iconic social media
presences, truly, backs follow, um, but how else can we support?
Can we keep your book doing busy? That's the other thing that I
kind of want to ask that. Yeah, and do you know what I
mean? I've set up a Patreon, but I haven't used it yet,
so that's pointless. Um. Well, honey, I'm going to stay tuned
for it because I'm ready. I'm kind of just periodically. The thing that's
getting me through is like with my writing, if it seemed to be doing
successfully and if people like it, that's more likely for me to get commissioned
again. So engaged with engaged with my content. That's not just my face.
It's what I always try and say, because a lot of people like
my face. But honey, those swipe ups they tell the true story.
If you're not looking at the swept up, you're only getting half the story
because no one cares for the written content. But if I'm up here stars
of my face, they all fucking go into a coma. So well,
yeah, but do you know what you're such a wonderful writer as well,
and that's not just me like bomb licking like you are. Joy. Thanks
m yeah, thanks whoa? Okay? And John, when are you dropping
the food blog? And do you have any ideas on the name? Oh?
Um, no, where am I dropping it? Probably at the beginning
the next week. I've been fanning around with a word press site, which
is really difficult by the way, Um, and name TBCs and you can
do your picks and food. Yeah, I'll bear that in mind. Your
males look like you're dip. Yes, they could just be gorgeous photography,
but just like with a tiny bit of your cock in every single like just
a slight shaft or just like this bella nestled in a salad like whatever?
Um, what studying idea is going to be a gay listening? Like?
Do you know what? The naked chef? Hot two? This bit the
remix in the remix, the jump off. Right, let's wrap this baby
up. Curry is on the way. My curry's almost here. Have you
already ordered it? In bed? I'm in bed after my shower, after
my run, and I'm just ordering a new delivery. It's delicious, honey,
I'm doing. I know I've mentioned it, but I'm doing Duck Color,
Ronge Tonight, full Baby, Homemaker Back. Ladies, Um, you're
in. You're in a committed relationship. You can bear back if you want.
I know, I um, but tea, you know, I've got
to get dinner on. Well. Thank you so so much for being a
part of this podcast. You've been in an absolute dream. I want you
back. Thank you. Do you know? And not to again to harp
on about guy but I never knew that that's what your voice was like.
And it's really framed mesten. Do you know what you if you're just listening
to the episodes where guys not there join the club. I used to listen
to it at the very beginning. I used to listen to at the start,
and now I'm like, wherever the where have they all gone? We've
killed them? Well? Thank you all, Yeah, thank you so much
for coming on. Thank you Jamie, thank love you guys. It's been
nice to speak to people. All right. If you want to follow us,
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don't really do anything on instidy. Well, I'm going to start trying to.
I'm going to try and get it going again. Um, you can
post my kitchen selfies with terrible yellow lighting. I was, you just need
a bit of vs vcso you just need to bring that up. I would
do a bit of saturation just to give you a bit of warmth. Um.
So mean, I was, so you've ruined it. No, you're
look like a decrepid pixie lot um. Yes, um, but yeah,
thank you so much for tune in and make sure that actually you are asking
us questions in the Curious Cat. I think we've actually got one or two
questions and Curious Cat, So we're going to do an episode where we answer
some of your quarantine questions. UM, probably in the next couple of days.
Um. But yeah, thanks for tuning in. I hope you stay
safe, look after one another. Um and yeah, that's less thing.
Bye bye bye. Yeah h