1 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:19,280 Welcome back everyone through a new episode. If you're wrong with Molly Hemingway and 2 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:22,440 David Harsani. Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,839 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. How are you, 4 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:30,480 Molly, I'm great. How are you doing. I'm a little tired. 5 00:00:30,559 --> 00:00:35,679 I'm I have lost sleep just thinking about Project twenty twenty five And how 6 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:39,799 scary of this? Wasn't that weird? Like all of a sudden one day, 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,840 all of my crazy lefty friends were like, there's a secret plan led 8 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:52,479 by crazy right wing organization known for destruction, the Heritage Foundation, and they're 9 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,719 going to destroy the country. And I'm like, where are these people getting 10 00:00:55,719 --> 00:00:59,359 their news? Well, first of all, yeah, they talk about it 11 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:03,400 as if it's some kind of secret, you know, blueprint where there's just 12 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:10,480 this giant website, completely transparent, lists all the authors, all the people 13 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:15,719 involved, and there's a ton of people. They brag about it, they 14 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,599 talk about it, and the hissteria over it is just I think it falls 15 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,920 in line with the Russia collusion hoak stuff, or the Federalist Society stuff, 16 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,879 or yeah, you know, the Supreme Court ethics stuff. It's just this 17 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:36,680 ginned up, concocted hysteria over really nothing. So I actually sat down and 18 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:38,120 read the whole thing, and I'm not going to pretend I didn't skim a 19 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:44,400 lot of parts, because I did. It's a nine hundred pages. It's 20 00:01:44,519 --> 00:01:49,840 mostly I would say ninety percent of it is just kind of stuff that conservatives 21 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,159 have basically been saying forever. We're going to get rid of the education depart 22 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,719 you know, Department of Education. We're going to do this, We're going 23 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:01,400 to do that. I don't even like some of it. I think conservatives 24 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,120 probably would disagree on a lot of parts of it. I'm not crazy about 25 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,400 some of the economic stuff. But the idea that it's authoritarian or anything or 26 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:14,919 theocratic is kind of a joke. So I'd read one critique from someone who's, 27 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,439 you know, in this sort of like new right, we don't like 28 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,919 the economics of the old right. Who is like, the problem with this 29 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,840 document is that it just doesn't really do much other than restate standard conservative principles 30 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,439 that they've held for dozens of years, And it was like, that's a 31 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:37,639 you would say that, in fact, it does have some changes from nineteen 32 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,560 eighty style republicanism or whatnot conservatism. I mean there's but yeah, I just 33 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:45,639 thought it was funny, like that seemed to me a more reasonable critique than 34 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:51,000 the ones I was getting from my frankly difficult to deal with insane left wing 35 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:53,800 friends. Now, yeah, I mean the real debate here should be an 36 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,800 intro or right debate over the economic stuff. I mean, I think they 37 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:00,560 I was going to like, I'm unhappy about a lot of it, but 38 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,680 I think that the Heritage Foundation went out of its way to try to bring 39 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:07,479 in different kind of voices. So like on trade, there's a section on 40 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:14,240 trade from Navarro, which obviously is much more restrictive, and then there's another 41 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,560 one I wish I could remember who wrote it, but it's you know the 42 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:19,759 other side of that. So I think that that's a good faith effort to 43 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,879 kind of bring together a lot of people on the right. Now there are 44 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,120 sections like praising unions and stuff like this that's very new right and I think 45 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:31,800 a huge mistake, but still not authoritarian. In fact, I would think 46 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,319 that the left would be much happier about that stuff than they were now. 47 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,479 Listen, there's a lot of notts to social conservatism. There's like a section 48 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,879 about how we should be keeping the Sabbath and stuff like that, but there's 49 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:49,159 no policy prescription and them making you not work on a weekend, So I 50 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:53,039 would like to propose it. The reason why they're freaking out is that the 51 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,439 Heritage Foundation here, working with all these other conservative groups, is dealing with 52 00:03:57,479 --> 00:04:00,639 a problem that the right has had where it kind of got a little stagnant 53 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:04,159 in terms of how it was presenting its ideas or how they were relating to 54 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:08,879 the issues of the moment. And so it was really easy to deal with 55 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:15,240 a right that was locked in the amber of the nineteen eighties, where you 56 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,680 know, whenever they talked, it sounded exactly like what you would have heard 57 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,759 from a stump speech of a congressional candidate in nineteen eighty six or something, 58 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,560 and that was causing electoral problems, and it was also just causing like a 59 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,439 like a deadening of the movement. And Heritage, which is a big heavy 60 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,160 hitter, is saying, we've got to be aggressive about what these ideas mean 61 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,680 right now, and it's kind of exciting and interesting, and it gives people 62 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,720 things to talk about and to think about and to work on policy about. 63 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:48,680 And the left recognizes that as a threat, and that's why they're actually freaking 64 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,560 out about it, because someone's actually saying, what if we did something when 65 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:56,160 we had power? What if we applied these conservative principles. So, I 66 00:04:56,199 --> 00:05:00,000 know you're kind of talking about the very specifics of the what's in the project, 67 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:04,000 but I think what's actually disturbing the New York Times and Salon and you 68 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:10,199 know, left wing publications and activists is the idea that maybe if a conservative 69 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:15,959 or conservative friendly politician got elected, they might actually do something with their power. 70 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,920 Yeah. No, I think that's part of it. It did make 71 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,319 me laugh that many of the things that are that. So I read a 72 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,360 slight piece. I'm sorry, but I read a slight piece this morning about 73 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:30,439 this, and it's a long piece, very talking about how scary it all 74 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:33,199 is, and they do not, literally do not mention a single thing in 75 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,160 it, you know. So I wonder if any of these people even know 76 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:41,439 or care. I think Project two twenty five just sounds scary too. But 77 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,439 the way you talked about the rhetoric, the political rhetoric, and the sort 78 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:47,519 of complacency of it and all that, I think that's exactly why you have 79 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,319 a new Right and exactly why young people are looking for new ways to express 80 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,199 themselves as conservatives. I think a lot of those ideas are Hoover esque, 81 00:05:56,319 --> 00:05:59,240 frankly, but I think I get the reason. I think you nailed it. 82 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:03,680 Yeah, I did think that. So when the people started getting hysterical, 83 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,040 Donald Trump comes out and he's like, I have nothing to do with 84 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:11,319 Project twenty twenty five. And that's technically true. I mean it's not just 85 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 technically true. That's true. He has nothing to do with Project twenty twenty 86 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:17,519 five. It's a group of nonprofit like conservative organizations trying to come up with 87 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,879 a plan for governing the country that can be used by someone like Donald Trump. 88 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:27,759 That doesn't mean that he's behind it or anything like that. But then 89 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,439 he went on to say, like, some of what they're saying sounds scary. 90 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,519 Well, some of what quote unquote they're saying isn't what they're saying, 91 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,639 it's what corporate media is claiming that they're saying. To your point about this 92 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,000 piece you just read, And it would be really great if Donald Trump wasn't 93 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,879 so stupid as to believe what bad people in corporate media say about his voters 94 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,839 and his base of support. So that would be my encouragement. Well, 95 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,839 I guess we could jump to another topic from here. It's a good segue. 96 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,680 I think part of that is just Donald Trump triangulating and moderating for the 97 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:11,480 general I would say that the RNC platform is indicative of that. So I 98 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,720 don't get me wrong. The Project two twenty five blueprint does have very social 99 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:24,040 conservative positions. I think that appeal would appeal far more to social you know, 100 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,399 hardcore social conservatives, and it went to some independent in Michigan or something, 101 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:31,240 and the president is aiming, you know, for that voter right now. 102 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,399 So the abortion, you know, it's for outlong abortion all that stuff, 103 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:41,040 which Donald Trump is not for, you know, he's I think he's 104 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:46,040 actually this is just a tough discussion for someone like me because I'm pretty hardcore 105 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:48,000 pro life, right, But how do you win elections? What do you 106 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,600 say to win elections? So let me just say this. So the RNC 107 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:56,879 came out with its platform, which I think is very simplistic and kind of 108 00:07:57,199 --> 00:07:59,920 silly, but I guess maybe people care or not. I don't know. 109 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,600 It doesn't have anything on guns anymore, and it doesn't have anything on abortion, 110 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:05,680 So let's just talk about that. Do you think that people who support 111 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Donald Trump actually care will not vote for him now because those those two issues 112 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,319 are strip from the RNC platform, or is it irrelevant Largely, I don't 113 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:20,519 think it'll matter too much in this election. I think it will be bad 114 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,839 for the Republican Party going forward. So I speak as someone who's never been 115 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:31,279 like a party activist. I've never worked for you Republican members of Congress or 116 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:33,039 anything like that. You know, I tend to vote, tend to vote 117 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:39,960 Republican, but I'm just not I'm not involved on those inner workings of the 118 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:46,000 party. And so I have these really complicated, contradictory thoughts, like I 119 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:50,000 don't actually care about platforms at all. I really don't. I've never cared 120 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,639 about it. I've never really read much about it. Didn't love that the 121 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:56,440 Republicans didn't bother having one in twenty twenty thanks to COVID. But like, 122 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,840 I just don't really care. And yet a lot of people I trust, 123 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,399 and a lot of people who've put a lot of work into the cause of 124 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:11,039 defending and protecting unborn children and their mothers and other issues that are kind of 125 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,200 form the basis of the coalition that is the Republican Party. They care a 126 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,799 great deal about the platform, and they've told me that it's a means by 127 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,639 which you can accomplish things at the local, state, and federal level by 128 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,080 having these like clear words in the platform. You know, Phyllis Schlafley is 129 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,679 a great example of someone who used platform battles to accomplish really important things for 130 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:41,720 conservative women. And this platform is kind of a platform of I mean, 131 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,799 it just doesn't I totally get why it would be a good platform to have 132 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,559 to win the presidential election. And that's not nothing. You know, if 133 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,960 you just feel like you're getting dragged down by platforms that you don't even agree 134 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:03,200 with or whatever's that's a political issue. But I don't think a lot of 135 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:09,799 Republican leaders, including Donald Trump, really have an understanding of who forms their 136 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:15,720 grassroots army. And that grassroots army is not the people who like can't be 137 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:20,000 bothered to vote unless Donald Trump's on the ballot. It's pro lifers basically, 138 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,879 and people who care deeply about the Constitution and the Second Amendment. And so 139 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:30,559 if you want people out there actually ballot harvesting and going door to door and 140 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,519 talking to their neighbors and caring enough about something to actually put effort into it. 141 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:39,399 You're basically talking about pro lifers, and so is there any confusion between 142 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,360 whether you vote for Donald Trump, the most pro life president in history, 143 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:46,320 who secured victory after victory for pro livers and has shown that he's been willing 144 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:52,919 to work on a transactional basis with them, versus a guy who is making 145 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,720 the cornerstone of his campaign his love of killing babies. No, it's not 146 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:01,200 like a tough It's not a tough question this time. But a lot of 147 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,080 what makes the Republican Party work is like, you know, all the other 148 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,679 races, all the other candidates, all the other times when they're like, 149 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:11,519 you got to vote for this tax break thing, and we'll throw you a 150 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:15,720 bone and pretend we care about your stupid babies, you know, like that 151 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,320 kind of stuff. When they're decreasing even that which they've already been pretty bad 152 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,519 on, I do think it might have a bad effect on the party going 153 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,960 forward. I don't know if any of that made sense. No, it 154 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,919 does. It's a fine, you know, it's a balance there. It 155 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:41,080 is weird to me that Donald Trump's kind of so they'll tell you his opponents 156 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,679 will tell you that he is this orange star banging Can I say that sort 157 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:52,000 of reprobate, you know, terrible human being. But also he wants to 158 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:54,960 create this theocracy where women are not like it. Just I'm not saying it 159 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,639 can happen that way, but it doesn't. The argument doesn't really make sense 160 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,759 in my view. My problem with Donald Trump. One of the problems I've 161 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:05,600 always had with him is I didn't think he was conservative enough. And I 162 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,960 do think he's a northeastern kind of New York Republican who doesn't fully understand social 163 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,360 conservatives. Right Still, he was the most effective pro life president ever. 164 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,840 So you have to make a choice here and you want to bring people in 165 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:22,480 to the party. Is he doing the right thing? I think Republicans sometimes 166 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:26,399 don't understand that incrementalism is a good way to go about these things, where 167 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:28,080 the left does it all the time. Okay, but I would say pro 168 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:33,720 lifers are the kings and queens of understanding incrementalism. We worked for decades, 169 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,720 five decades incrementally to secure the overturning of Roe v. Wade. We will 170 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,360 continue to work for decades for every other battle that you know. I mean, 171 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:46,000 it's just a lifelong battle if you care about it's humans. So I 172 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,679 don't think it's like, I don't think there's just a limit to how much 173 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,879 they're willing to take one of the I thinks, yes, no, no, 174 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,320 one of the other things that helps the Republican Party. I've noticed because 175 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,679 I've this is the only issue I truly care about, Like I mean, 176 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,360 I care about a lot of issues, but this is the one that is 177 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:11,360 the reason why I even waste my time in politics, is because I care 178 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:18,759 about women and children, families and not killing babies. And in the pro 179 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:24,320 life movement, most of the people that I've encountered are not particularly conservative, 180 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,440 they just also care about babies. So probably the thing saving the Republican Party 181 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:33,480 right now is that it has become a little more populist in working class and 182 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:35,120 stuff like that, issues on which you know, I would meet people all 183 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:39,679 the time who were pretty crazy lefty, but they had just been driven out 184 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,720 of the Democrat Party over abortion. But these things are delicate and you might 185 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,679 not notice the change right away, but you can notice it over time. 186 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,840 And you know, one thing the Democrat Party's pretty good at is making sure 187 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:58,799 that it's hardcore basis taken care of and Republicans have never been good at that, 188 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:07,960 and getting worse is not a recipe for success. Government intervention has ruined 189 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:11,080 yet another industry. The Watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 190 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,759 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how it 191 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:20,120 affects your wallet. After Seattle imposed a minimum WAGS for delivery drivers, customers, 192 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,279 drivers, and restaurants saw less orders and longer wait times. When government 193 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,200 messes with the free market, it fails every single time. Whether it's happening 194 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,200 in DC or Donald Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. Be informed. 195 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:33,840 Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski on Apples, Spotify, 196 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:41,720 or wherever you get your podcasts. And things have changed once Dobbs came 197 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:46,759 down and row was no longer reality. It wasn't just so easy to say 198 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:52,000 on pro life anymore. You actually have to support legislation that's real, and 199 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,480 then you have to balance that with your electorate. Now, I would say 200 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:01,840 I thought Donald Trump made has made it actually pretty good, has made some 201 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,639 pretty good arguments. You know, when he had the debate, and obviously 202 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:07,759 he was debating someone who wasn't mentally prepared for that sort of thing. But 203 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,799 you know, attacking them for being at radical, which they are extremists nihilists 204 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:16,639 on this issue is a very good way to go about it, and then 205 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:20,679 saying, listen, people should locally should decide for themselves. I know that 206 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,080 a lot of people I work with and other pro life people think it's a 207 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:28,360 national issue. I think you need to fight this state by state, and 208 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,360 so I just think he made a good argument. This way. You're not 209 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:35,080 turning off people completely. You're not making it feel like you're just going to 210 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,799 shove this legislation down there. It's even though that's what the left wants to 211 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,360 do. Obviously. If I can just make one clarification, I've seen some 212 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:45,639 people who want to be weak on abortion say, well, Dobbs just gives 213 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:46,679 it all to the state, so it's a state's issue, so we don't 214 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,440 need to talk about it anymore at a national level, And that's just wrong 215 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:58,440 on multiple levels. For one thing, Dobbs overturned Row, which unconstitutionally limited 216 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,799 the right of the people to talk about abortion and make decisions about what the 217 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,279 abortion law should be. It didn't say at the state level, I mean, 218 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,639 at the state level is one of the places you can do that. 219 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,759 We also have a Congress, you can do it there. You could do 220 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:14,960 it at the local level. You can do it in like all sorts of 221 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,720 ways. It's not about it didn't say like you have to do it at 222 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,879 the state level, And so I see people clinging to that and saying they 223 00:16:19,879 --> 00:16:23,000 also say, well, every pro lifer said they just wanted it to be 224 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:27,759 at the state level. No they didn't. They said that it prohibited states 225 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:30,480 from being able to set their own policy, which is one of the problems 226 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,799 with ROE. But the goal of a pro lifer is to have a world 227 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,840 where babies aren't killed and women aren't used. And you know, like it's 228 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:45,000 not at the state level, Like it doesn't really matter which place you're protected. 229 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,360 I mean, you can have arguments about the best place to protect them, 230 00:16:47,399 --> 00:16:49,200 and I do think the states is where the battle has to be. 231 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,480 But I've just seen people overstate what the actual decision says. Well, I 232 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:59,919 don't have a definitive position on how it should be handled, but I know 233 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,320 right now as a political matter, I just think fighting it from state to 234 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,400 state is far more important. I mean, you see more babies being born 235 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,559 in states already that have enacted restrictive yeah, protections. I hate when I 236 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:17,960 say it's restrictive when it's the opposite. But so that part and then also 237 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:21,440 guns, you know, which is kind of more surprising to me, because 238 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,160 I don't even think that. I don't here here's what I think. I 239 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,759 can't recall a single election, certainly not a national election where someone lost or 240 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:34,160 lost voters because they were pro Second Amendment. I just don't think that's happens. 241 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,799 I don't think anyone's lost election over that. I think it's just this 242 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:42,720 issue that's completely overstated by the left. So that was that took me, 243 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,440 took me by surprise a little. But again, I don't think that's another 244 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,920 issue that Donald Trump is not great on it. I mean exactly if I 245 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,440 can just say really quickly. One of the things I think is funny is 246 00:17:53,480 --> 00:18:00,400 people say all the time, if you're not like on that crazy MSNBC, 247 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:06,200 CNN, New York Times, never Trump Republican train, that you don't criticize 248 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,519 Trump. And what I've noticed with some recent discussions is they're mad when you 249 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:15,799 don't criticize Trump. From the left, they don't even notice it when you 250 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:18,440 criticize Trump from the right, like bringing up guns. I'm remembering, you 251 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:25,319 know, Sean Davis wrote a piece about the unconstitutional nature of Donald Trump's executive 252 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,599 order ban on bump stocks. I know Sean Davis doesn't even care about I 253 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,319 thinks bumpstocks are stupid, but you know, he made a constitutional argument that 254 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:36,240 that was wrong, a constitutional argument that was upheld, you know, by 255 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:41,680 the Supreme Court. And I'm just raising that. I'm reminding people of that 256 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:45,480 because Donald Trump has not had the best record on guns, and so it's 257 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,960 something to be wary of should he be reelected. Obviously he'll be a million 258 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:55,880 times better than a Joe Biden would be in a second term, but it's 259 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,640 still something to be on guard about. And then the other thing is if 260 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,079 you say, I'm really concerned that Donald Trump is, you know, not 261 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,079 handling the pro life base of the party right, it's like you didn't say 262 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:11,400 anything because you didn't criticize from the left. Like they just don't notice anybody 263 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,920 who's on the right, Like our arguments don't matter, our concerns don't matter. 264 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,920 If you're criticizing Trump, it doesn't matter. You know what I'm saying 265 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:22,960 yeah. I mean, the funniest thing to me is always how I read 266 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:27,319 maga extremism, no matter what's going on when there it is literally true, 267 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,599 I keep saying literally. But Trump is the moderate candidate in this election right 268 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,519 now. There, he is far more modern. If Joe Biden had been 269 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:38,279 the moderate that we were promised, I think this looks this world looks completely 270 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:41,640 different right now. But he's not. And I think it polls. I 271 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,160 think reflac that you know, if someone wants to you know, control the 272 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,440 border and even get rid of the people here illegally, that's extremely popular, 273 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,440 no matter how many times the other side saying Project twenty twenty five wants to 274 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:57,279 you know, have camps to put Latinos in. No, it doesn't Latinos 275 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:03,319 in polls want people expelled who came here illegally. My parents are immigrants. 276 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,440 No one is madder about you know, who stood in the line and waited 277 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,160 to come here. No one is angrier about people cutting the line than them. 278 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:15,160 So they completely misjudging these kind of like issues that should be simple. 279 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,640 But he's not all there, So let's talk about him. Actually, everyone's 280 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,240 talking about Joe by and all the time, and I just quickly. Want 281 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:27,240 to preface all this by saying that Trump's discipline now is incredibly surprising to me. 282 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,680 The way he's He's kind of let the left stew in this and try 283 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,319 to figure it out, and that of sets them. Have you seen them 284 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,920 like Trump hasn't made an appearance in fourteen days. They need him so badly. 285 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,440 I saw someone pointing out that the Democrats have been trying to put Trump 286 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:47,839 under gag orders, They've been censoring him, they've been trying to get him 287 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,240 kicked off social media. And then the moment that he's like, I'm just 288 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:53,200 going to let the Democrats implode over here, They're like, why is he 289 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:57,119 not saying anything? He needs to say things? We are we're our rage, 290 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,720 you know, levels are way too low, so we need to get 291 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,200 them lifted up. It is very funny and it's smart politics, you know. 292 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:11,519 And his whole campaign seems more discipline this time around to me. Quick 293 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,680 note on I actually was saying something about this on Barney earlier this week. 294 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:22,559 It's the biggest undercovered story I think is how tight this campaign is. So 295 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,279 twenty sixteen was a legendarily untight presidential campaign. I actually think that was part 296 00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:33,519 of its beauty. You had top advisors openly screaming at each other about the 297 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:38,039 best way to do things. Trump was going out and rallying and saying all 298 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:41,319 sorts of crazy and incendiary things, and it would make the media. You 299 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,200 know, I'll be in uproar. Twenty twenty actually wasn't. Twenty twenty was 300 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,640 a pretty tight ship as well. It just ended up being kind of to 301 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:55,079 its detriment. Like one of the things that Donald Trump does well with is 302 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,240 to run ideas by different people, see what their reaction is is, and 303 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,480 then make a decision about, you know, the proper way to go. 304 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:07,319 And everyone was kind of on the same page, I feel like in twenty 305 00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:11,839 twenty, and it killed some of the energy and he wasn't able to go 306 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,720 out and campaign in front of crowds, so he couldn't even test out ideas 307 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:22,200 there. This seems to be the best of both worlds. This twenty twenty 308 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:29,799 four campaign's led by Susie Wiles and Chris los Avitas. They rarely rarely are 309 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:36,559 even out there publicly, so that's different than some previous campaign assistants that Trump 310 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:41,599 has had, and they have been executing this I think next to flawlessly. 311 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:48,039 People forget that when Donald Trump decided he was going to run again, there 312 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,319 was not the world's biggest sentiment in favor of it. You know, a 313 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000 lot of people were tired of him. A lot of people were just hoping 314 00:22:56,079 --> 00:23:00,400 there was a way to move on into a different candidate. He pretty effectively 315 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:07,119 sidelined everybody and unified the Republican Party around him. He obviously was always going 316 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,359 to be the front runner, given the success he had in his first presidency 317 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:18,000 and the feelings that people had that twenty twenty was unfairly taken from him. 318 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:23,440 And then ever since then too, they've just been executing I think, pretty 319 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:30,400 flawlessly, including this period of time of keeping Donald Trump off by large social 320 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:38,960 media speeches. And he did give a speech in drell Doral, Florida that 321 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:45,640 was pretty funny and good, but it's interesting. Yeah. Twenty sixteen was 322 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,640 also weird because he almost ran as much against the Republican establishment and the old 323 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:55,400 Guard as he did Democrats, So it was this weird energy and twenty twenty 324 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,319 was a little different, I guess. And now he is the establishment essentially, 325 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,759 RNC falls in line with him, and there's no yeah, yes, 326 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,640 and no. I would say that if the Republican establishment truly wanted to take 327 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,559 Trump out, what they should have done after he lost in twenty twenty was 328 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:18,119 praise him to high heavens, and instead they also started openly conspiring for how 329 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,920 to make sure that he couldn't be the nominee again in twenty twenty four, 330 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,000 thereby giving him that thing you just talked Hi about in twenty sixteen, where 331 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,160 he had to take on the establishment. There's no question that Mitch McConnell and 332 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,160 the big money wanted anyone but Trump. They said, so they put their 333 00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:41,240 efforts behind mainly I think Nikki Hayley. That was the big mistake. They 334 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,920 should have all rallied around one candidate. They made the same mistake in twenty 335 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,759 sixteen, and it should have, in my view, been to Santus, 336 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,000 who I think would bring something different to this race. I don't know if 337 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:56,799 you'd do better or worse, but they were His sort of energy and competence 338 00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:00,160 compared to what Biden is doing would be quite quite a quite a picture, 339 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:03,359 right, or quite a distinction between those two campaigns. I don't know, 340 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,200 though you never know these how electric reacts this stuff. Well, we got 341 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,480 to do. I mean, I actually would say I agree. Ronda Santis 342 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:15,960 is an amazing governor. He's highly effective, He's on paper, in particular, 343 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,400 exactly what you would want. And the voters had an opportunity to choose 344 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,640 him and they just did not cotton to him. And if that's in the 345 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:29,599 Republican primary, it's unlikely that someone with his skill set and track record would 346 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,079 appeal more outside of the Republican Why is it unlikely? I don't think it's 347 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,039 unlikely. I think it's likely primary voters are were Trump. A lot of 348 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:41,440 Trump loyalists there that no matter you know, that loved him. I don't 349 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,680 know, you know, I don't know that regular Republican voters wouldn't have liked 350 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,279 him as much. I think people like you and I are really motivated by 351 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:53,039 ideas, and a lot of other people are not necessarily. I don't mean 352 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:56,960 that to sound I hope that didn't sound wrong. But there are aspects of 353 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:03,440 campaigning that really aren't about what you believe so much as how you present it. 354 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,440 And you look at why certain people had success. You know, a 355 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,599 Bill Clinton, but not a Hillary Clinton, a Barack Obama, a Joe 356 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:17,960 Biden, a Donald Trump, These are people who genuinely enjoy, well maybe 357 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:23,039 not Obama, but genuinely enjoy interacting with people, schmoozing with them, putting 358 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:29,160 in those long, hard hours of shaking every hand and taking pictures and remembering 359 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:36,599 names and stuff like that. And so when I think of Ron DeSantis's situation, 360 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,799 I think that might have been a bigger issue than the actual I mean, 361 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,200 it was a timing issue first and foremost one billion percent, and that 362 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:52,200 he didn't understand that this was going to be a probably insurmountable task to take 363 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,160 on Trump this year, and that also it would affect what people thought about 364 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,599 him by even trying to do it. That's a huge issue. But I 365 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,920 think that when it comes to ideas and implementation and all of the stuff, 366 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,279 he is, he's just amazing. He's wonderful. I mean, you're right 367 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:15,240 on the shaking every hand in the auditorium until it closes not so great. 368 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,279 I mean, there are a lot of people, a lot of candidates, 369 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:23,519 perspective presidential candidates that people thought would be great, like Rudy Giuliani or Fred 370 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:27,160 Thompson or whatever, who just didn't click right. And you just don't know, 371 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,119 You never know, You never know, but we were sed to be 372 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,640 talking about Joe Biden. I know. So he's going to have a big 373 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,039 press conference tomorrow, the big boy press conference. We'll see how that goes. 374 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,920 I did notice something I thought was pretty funny. The expectations for him 375 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,240 are so low that when he does something just even barely normal, I see 376 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:56,400 people like Jen Ruben or others like, oh, he did that without a 377 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,880 script? He answered that question. No, it's it's kind of like I 378 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,319 say, It's like the way my wife speaks to me when I fix some 379 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,920 simple thing in the house, like a you know, a door hinge or 380 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,279 something like. It's like clapping for a two year old who, for you 381 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,119 know, takes his first step. So I don't think it's gonna work. 382 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,720 I think the pressure is going to be mount because every time he flubs or 383 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:26,519 something happens, it's just going to be so highlighted. But he's not stepping 384 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,240 down so far. Do you what do you have? You changed your mind? 385 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:33,119 I don't remember what you said last week. I I just want to 386 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,440 first off say that I had a friend who years ago say I had a 387 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,240 friend who said, watching the press handle Joe Biden is like watching a family 388 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:48,000 try to help a three year old win Candyland. And we're right, what 389 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:56,039 you're describing right now about the low expectations for him fits into that. Okay, 390 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:02,440 So I do think Biden survived the Michal coup attempt, and that that's 391 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:08,799 not nothing. It was kind of a foreordained conclusion that once his main enablers, 392 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:17,839 the liberal Democrat media and other Democrat leaders, once they turned on him, 393 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,279 that he was done, that there was no way he could withstand it. 394 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,079 You were seeing stories come out of the New York Times that were like, 395 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,200 oh, by the way, he has Parkinson's are you know? Kind 396 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,039 of that level of extremism based on anonymous sources and all the tricks that they 397 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:38,119 usually employ only against Republican opponents. And it was crazy. It was hysterical. 398 00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:42,880 And he did come out hard and say I'm not going anywhere. And 399 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,079 it was pretty clear that like tiam Obama is leaking against him, trying to 400 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:51,400 drive him out. All of their public people are speaking that way, their 401 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,319 private people are leaking. And I thought it was also interesting. I just 402 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,000 want to do the what's gone well for Biden thus farm and then we'll talk 403 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:04,680 about what's not going well. But you had a lot of rumors. Oh 404 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,039 four senators say that they think he should step down, but they wouldn't have 405 00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:11,480 their name with them. And all of the people who did come out and 406 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:15,119 say that they thought he should step down that were elected Democrats were people I'd 407 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,680 never heard of before. And so when it came to people on the record, 408 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:25,759 it was top level Democrats saying that they're standing with him. And that 409 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:33,160 is almost certainly because this is not an organic situation. There's no groundswell of 410 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,000 support for removing him among the people who just nominated him. It's the elites 411 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,480 who want to get rid of him, and they're trying to convince the voters 412 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,920 to agree with them to drive him out. Yeah, I agree, politicians 413 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,000 are risk averse anyway. There's no one out there to support that has this 414 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:56,200 ground slow of support. So for instance, when Hillary Barack Obama ran against 415 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,279 Hillary, there was this second option that was much more exciting for people, 416 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,920 that generated more support. So that was easy. But now where do you 417 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:10,359 go. I will say that the only higher level person I so came out 418 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:15,119 was Michael Bennett, who is the Senator in Colorado, and he only came 419 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:18,279 out because I believe someone leaked that he had said. They didn't think Biden 420 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:19,319 could wait, and he couldn't lie about it, so he had to come 421 00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:25,960 out and say it. Well, and you had Nancy Pelosi this morning, 422 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,279 so shall walk it back. You know, I thought it was a pretty 423 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,799 Nancy Pelosi style shift. She's like, he's going to have to make a 424 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,920 decision about whether he wants to stay, and they're like, he already decided, 425 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,799 and she's like, he's going to have to put a lot of thought 426 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,160 into that. In other words, you need to keep thinking until you come 427 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,319 to the right decision. And that's what I was going to say. Initially 428 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,880 he survives the coup. Obviously, if he has another big stumble, I 429 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,720 think it would be really hard to survive that next stage of outrage. But 430 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:02,759 I worry that what has happened here by surviving the initial coup is that it's 431 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:07,960 giving his opponents time to actually put together a plan, you know, researching 432 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,440 what needs to be done, getting the media to smooth over all of the 433 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,119 illegalities or process problems that would be in play. Oh, technically you can't 434 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,119 do this, But we talked to four experts who said it's no big deal 435 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,000 when democracy is on the line, you know, and coming up with some 436 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:30,200 kind of perfect plan. The only issue here, The only issue is that 437 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:37,880 top Democrats in the media and otherwise understand that Joe Biden is not going to 438 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,720 beat Donald Trump, that even like their ballot harvesting operation, would be harder 439 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:47,000 to sell, even harder to sell this time around than in twenty twenty, 440 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:53,559 and that people would probably not trust the legitimacy of a similar election even more 441 00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:58,920 than they didn't trust the legitimacy of the last election. And so they understand 442 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,599 that they are in in danger of losing power, and that's the only reason 443 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,480 why they're trying to get him out as the nominee. If this were a 444 00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,839 real issue where they were really good people who really did just care about, 445 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:14,880 you know, his health, they would only be talking about him stepping down 446 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,079 from the presidency, not replacing him on the ticket. Well, let's talk 447 00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:23,680 about that mythology that's being created. So in Axios, the I think it's 448 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:28,480 Jim Vanda Hay and Mike Allen wrote that hell hath no fury like a press 449 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:34,079 corps deceived and that's why all of a sudden, the entire press is putting 450 00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:38,680 on this full or press against the president. I view it differently. I 451 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,880 think they got caught because they had no control over what was happening in the 452 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,599 debate, and now they're just doing the work of a different group of Democrats. 453 00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:52,519 Both reasons, hiding what Biden was about and helping now unseat Biden are 454 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,000 both in an effort to stop Donald Trump. That is their goal. It 455 00:33:55,079 --> 00:34:01,960 is not good journalism, It is not any kind of you know, you 456 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,599 know, you know, democracy saving effort. It's just terrible. And in 457 00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:10,239 a column I quote Ace Rothstein from a casino. Have you ever seen that 458 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,679 movie when he yells at the black I think it was the black Gio, 459 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,000 and it was a yokel on the floor who was being ripped off. If 460 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:19,920 either you were being scammed, then you're too stupid to have this job, 461 00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,639 or you were in on it, and that's even worse. And that's how 462 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,719 I think about the media. There will be no explanation for why we didn't 463 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,800 know about this. The idea that people embedded in the White House didn't know 464 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,599 what was going on is just an obvious It's just a transparent lie. Yeah, 465 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,559 can we just talk about They're like, no, no, no, 466 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960 we weren't covering up this thing that one hundred percent of the rest of the 467 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,559 world saw. We were just too stupid to notice it. That's their defense. 468 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:51,159 We weren't liars who were colluding with other Democrat power brokers and the conspiracy 469 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:57,599 of silence. We were just too stupid to notice what any fourteen year old 470 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,599 on TikTok could notice. Now I get it that I am a I have 471 00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:05,199 an ideological stake in this, and I don't like Joe Biden. But I 472 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,480 went back to see when was I writing about this, and by the way, 473 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,400 I was writing about this, like in twenty sixteen or whenever, already 474 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,239 about but Joe Biden. But I wrote last year Joe Biden is not okay. 475 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,639 It's an entire column of things in the public record, videos that we 476 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:22,320 can see things that he said, like after an incoherent anti gun speech, 477 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,199 he says God bless the Queen man like the and then we just walked away, 478 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,159 and the press just walked away as if this was something normal that would 479 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,679 happen every day. And Joe Biden kept doing this, so the idea they 480 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,760 didn't know, and they knew a lot more because they have There's no way 481 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,360 that people from the administration aren't saying things off the record. It's a lie. 482 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,159 Did you see a George Stephanopolis. Some guy on the street asked him 483 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,360 if Biden's going to survive, and he's like no, And I think that, 484 00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,519 you know, they just want Joe Biden in now or out. But 485 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:54,280 if he's in, they know Kamal is going to take over before four years, 486 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,599 is up right? I mean, there's no doubt about that. They 487 00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:00,039 just want the power. Yeah. I actually think that was the initial plan 488 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:05,599 too, was to just get him elected and get him to transition to Kamala. 489 00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:07,639 And then it turned out he had a huge ego and a wife who's 490 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,960 like Lady Macbeth, and the transition plan didn't work also because Kamala Harris is 491 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,199 very bad at her job, and so they are in a mess. And 492 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,519 now they just want to not deal with the mess they made. They want 493 00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:29,199 to have like a magical solution that subverts democracy in their own primary. And 494 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,480 people are I mean, they could have this blitz primary thing they're talking about 495 00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:37,480 though. They're talking about some blitz primary where they go through and alects, 496 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:38,679 you know, get someone else on the bolt. I'm not as like, 497 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,320 you know, I don't care about this coup stuff because Kamala's job being on 498 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,360 the ticket is to take over for Biden. I mean, that's his pick. 499 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,639 Supposedly she's the best person for the job. So they deserve what they 500 00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,480 get. Can we talk about her for a minute? So yep. I 501 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,239 see a lot of people saying she's running ahead of Biden, you know, 502 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,800 and she hasn't even started a campaign so people can see her. Well, 503 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,119 I think you're fooling yourself if you think Kamala's going to get out there more 504 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:05,079 and be more liked. I think what's going to happen is you're going to 505 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:08,400 have a very well funded Trump campaign ripping her apart daily. That hasn't happened 506 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:12,440 either, And I think a lot of people who would get to know her 507 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:17,079 are more likely not to like what they see than like what they see. 508 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,920 And another thing I just quickly want to mention is we keep what's going to 509 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480 happen here in the revisionist history is going to be that Joe Biden lost because 510 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,239 of that debate and people realize he was too old. He's incredibly unpopular right 511 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,960 now because his presidency has been a disaster, and that should not be forgotten 512 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,679 either. Kamala. Kamala was tasked with the border, right, which is 513 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,199 a disaster, and what else has she done? So I don't know why 514 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,320 anyone believes she's going to be the answer here. I don't really know who 515 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,880 would be the answer. Probably be some moderate governor from Pennsylvania or something. 516 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,480 Probably their best bet. But that's to do that would take a lot of 517 00:37:55,519 --> 00:38:00,280 heavy lifting. I'm not even sure how they do it. Yeah, I 518 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,320 don't know, but I don't think that. I don't think the story is 519 00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:10,800 over. I think if I were Joe Biden, I would truly hire a 520 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,519 food tester. I think. No, I'm very very serious. I'm worried 521 00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:22,760 about what lengths they're willing to go to to get him out. Well, 522 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,840 Shane Gillis had that joke where he might be the first president that you can 523 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,239 assassinate just by like fake punching him or scaring him so that they don't really 524 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,519 need to poison his food. I just need to like, ooh job. 525 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,039 I mean you know what I'm saying, though, Like they know survive another 526 00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:44,960 stumble? Will they do something? Will they mess with his medication? Will 527 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,960 they I don't I don't know. You guys sound crazy, right, now 528 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360 I have to say a lot of times I think that you've sounded crazy in 529 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,599 the past. It's just that just those things have just come true. But 530 00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,199 I will say that I just yes, I don't think that's going to happen. 531 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,639 I think they'd rather just write it out with him. First of all, 532 00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:07,559 we have to always remember that all there, the democracy is ending. 533 00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,599 If we lose this election. Stuff is just fake. They don't actually believe 534 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:14,679 that, so I think I don't think see exactly. So I remember, 535 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,440 I don't know if we should publish our war game that we did at the 536 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:23,239 Federalist Staff retreat. But weird how things keep happening from there. Right, 537 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,280 It's funny that I was Joe Biden and I did not make it through to 538 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,639 the end of the morn. You know, boy that ended in World War 539 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,320 three? Right, we just went off the hook. But I don't know 540 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,119 what's going to happen. I think we often underestimate, or maybe voters or 541 00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:46,559 people often underestimate that these people, these candidates, politicians have massive egos. 542 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,840 It's not just so simple as to say get out. They have their family 543 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,199 around them, they have a lot of people telling them what they want to 544 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,719 hear. So so I think Republicans should start pressing that point. By the 545 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,239 way, if they're going to get rid of Joe, they're going to have 546 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,639 to make a lot of promises to the family, because that's the family's meal 547 00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:07,000 ticket, that's the entire family business. Is Joe being in power. And 548 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:13,559 if he is dethroned, like who's buying who's buying up Hunter's artwork, who's 549 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,599 going to provide the pardons for the for the Biden family, who's going to 550 00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:22,400 allow the grift to continue or what you know, or to turn it into 551 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,679 a more law abiding grift like the Clinton Global Foundation was, you know, 552 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,840 like they need to make some promises, and I think Republicans should say, 553 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,760 everyone, preserve your paperwork. We're coming, you know, we know what 554 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,599 you're going to do here, and we're going to be looking into it. 555 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:44,280 I also see some Democrats argue that there is a team behind him. It's 556 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,760 not just him, you know, it's uh you know, you know, 557 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:53,280 the mayor Pete, you know, is making decisions. We are. Republicans 558 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,599 shouldn't lose. I know there's a lot of focus on buying, but they 559 00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:02,679 shouldn't lose fat. They shouldn't lose folks is on how unpopular and tragic many 560 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,360 of the initiatives of that administration are, you know, because if someone new 561 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,480 comes on, you can have to refocus on that as well. So I 562 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,920 don't know. I feel like maybe he's going to stay. And I'm still 563 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,880 fifty to fifty on how I feel about it. I still you never know, 564 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,079 like we said, how the electorate reacts, so they'll maybe like Biden 565 00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:25,400 was our guy, you know, we voted for him, whatever, they 566 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,119 may not like him being pushed out in this way. I don't know. 567 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,800 Yeah, I do think if the even Biden voters, if Obama were to 568 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,119 say, everybody, here's what we need you to do, they would be 569 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:42,159 like, sir, yes, sir. He's obviously behind this stuff, as 570 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:47,679 you say, because a lot of the folks who seem to be leaking seem 571 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:54,199 to be his like people in the administration so forth. Anyway, it's going 572 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,599 to be fun. What a wild election this is going to be. This 573 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,480 is the wildest one I think we've probably ever been around, other than Trump 574 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,960 maybe twenty sixteen. I don't know. That's it. Anything but politics right 575 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,000 now. Culture, Have you watched anything, read anything, listen to anything 576 00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:14,239 that you want to share with the audience. I was. I don't know 577 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,639 if we talked about how I was sick for a while. So I've been 578 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,559 trying to catch up on everything and I haven't seen a ton. But we 579 00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:27,599 did have a family movie night of watching Rocky Nice. Do you like that 580 00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:31,639 movie? I love the original. I think it's great. You know, 581 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,119 Actually, what am I kidding? I love all of them until four till 582 00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:39,079 write four. I don't know about the others. So you watched just the 583 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:45,039 first one, yes, And I am pretty sure the kids did not love 584 00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:46,760 it, but I don't think I did the first time I saw it either. 585 00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:52,840 And there were a few things that were interesting, including just how grimy 586 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,280 Philadelphia was in the seventies and we look at Philadelphia now, we're like, 587 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,119 things have really gone downhill, But things weren't so hot in the whenever that 588 00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:07,199 was filmed nineteen seventy three. Any movie in the seventies that you watch when 589 00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:13,039 there's street scenes, there's just litter everywhere. It's kind of grimy and gross, 590 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:20,119 and you know, I like watching that, but I wouldn't want to 591 00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,800 live in it again. I was a young kid when that was going on. 592 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,440 But yeah, I like Rocky. It's funny because I was going to 593 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,199 actually mention Rocky before I saw someone tweet, you know, like Rocky Biden's 594 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,519 like Rocky keeps getting up after and I'm like, do you know that Rocky 595 00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:37,960 didn't win in that when we lost? I guess they don't know. One 596 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:43,000 of the kids was so upset about that. I loved. I loved that 597 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,519 part of it, and I had recently watched it your Recommendation, that sliced 598 00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:53,599 alone documentary, and so it was also fun to think about this man and 599 00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:57,280 how he wrote this and how he wrote it quickly, and then how he 600 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:02,320 insisted on being the star and how that ended up working really well for everybody. 601 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:10,079 But I liked it's it's it's not the movie. I think people remember 602 00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:14,840 it as it's not like this blockbuster story. It's actually quite a like very 603 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,159 intimate story about like love and overcoming obstacles. What I love is that he's 604 00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,880 old in that movie and like this is his last chance, and then like 605 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,519 thirty years later, is still fighting in movies. But if you just view 606 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:28,239 that movie on its own, I think it's quite quite an. I also 607 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,639 like to go down that rabbit hole of Tilia. What was her name, 608 00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:37,400 Tilia Talia shire Tala, And how she's Jason Schwartzman's mom. Yeah, and 609 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:45,239 she's Francis fort Coppola's sister. Yeah, she was in The Godfather. You 610 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,880 know, she's not the greatest actress, but she's sorry. Didn't she win 611 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,960 an Academy Award for that? She hardly speaks. So I also want to 612 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,480 say that I did finish watching the worst TV show out there, which is 613 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:04,119 The Bear? Are you watching that? You know? I love that for 614 00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:07,519 a season, but ever since that episode with the family fighting that like just 615 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:14,199 meant to this is anguish watching that I have not returned. It fills me 616 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,599 with rage when people say that is like the best TV episode in history. 617 00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:28,119 It's not. And then this season takes all of the problems of the second 618 00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:32,480 season and then removes any of the redeeming qualities of the second season. It 619 00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:37,960 is horrible, and Mark makes fun of me for how angry I am about 620 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,840 how bad it is. So in the kitchen, it's screaming between the two 621 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,360 main characters. Are you screaming between the main character and other people? He 622 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,159 has given people no reason to like him in any way. And then his 623 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:57,719 SIU chef Also, they replace personality with head nods. They just nod their 624 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,000 head a lot, and it's annoying and it's the only thing that they can 625 00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:08,000 do. And they insert characters who are cartoonishly irrelevant, these fact brothers. 626 00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:15,920 The food storyline is all about learning how to edit your dishes so that only 627 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,000 the best part remains. And then the TV storyline is about filling up a 628 00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:29,000 dish with things that nobody wants to eat. It's so bad, it is 629 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:35,000 so awful, and I'm mostly angry because they took real characters in that first 630 00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:38,440 season, real people, not fancy people. Oh, in the third season, 631 00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:45,760 the uncle or whoever he is, who helps support the Oliver, who's 632 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,039 a good character. To make a point, he claims that he goes to 633 00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:54,960 a lecture series at the University of Chicago. No, what made this great 634 00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:59,920 was that these were real people, not people who talk film criticism, not 635 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,639 people who go to university lectures at University of Chicago and talk about astrophysicism or 636 00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:12,599 whatever like it. They took every good person who was real and gritty and 637 00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:20,440 troubled and not that well educated, and they turned them into film school fantasies 638 00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:24,760 that nobody can relate to and it's it's awful, truly awful. Wow. 639 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:31,079 Sorry, now I in the second season, it was already headed downhill. 640 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,480 I think the first season was just one of my favorite, the favorite, 641 00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,960 my favorite shows in the last like I don't know how many years, you 642 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,920 know, I love his passion about food all that. I loved it, 643 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,480 but all right, well anything else. They have a lot of RIM and 644 00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:52,280 it's been making me revisit RM in that series, and I think I hate 645 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,400 RIM less than I used to, but I'm still not an RM person. 646 00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,320 And then the final thing I want to say is thanks to everybody for your 647 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:07,719 wonderful commentary on how you also don't like Titanic. That made me feel much 648 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,679 better about ranting about that. I was worried and apparently I could start a 649 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,800 society of people who hate that movie. Yeah, one time, I only 650 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,639 like the first three M albums. I think Fables of the Reconstruction is a 651 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:25,559 great album. So once I tweeted out like Fable Rim sucked after Fables of 652 00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:30,079 the Reconstruction something like that, and Mike Mills the basis goes that's nice, 653 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,800 he'd like answered under Yeah, then I found like that this feels bad because 654 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,800 they were around like twenty five years after that. I was in part of 655 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,960 my journeys through Ori Emo's reading. I think it might have been Mark mill 656 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:51,800 saying that they he was very pleased with all of their albums. Not every 657 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,519 album was great, but not every Dylan album was great. Yeah, thanks 658 00:48:55,559 --> 00:49:00,920 comparing yourself to Dylan. I did recently also revisit band and I listened to 659 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,039 Document Maybe it was the next album, which I thought was pretty good. 660 00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:08,840 I watched We'll Go But Come Back if you have anything else, but I 661 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:14,239 watched you. I think you may have mentioned the show Queen's Gambit. No 662 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,599 oh, I thought it was fantastic. Okay, highest recommendation. I mean 663 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,800 initially I didn't watch it because I thought it would be too dark and so 664 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,760 like I have a list here. When you were talking about the The Bear, 665 00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:30,400 I don't watch any movie that makes me feel tense, I just stop 666 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,920 watching. I don't watch any movie that has real sadness in it. I 667 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,159 don't watch any movie where children are hurt or die, and I only watch 668 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:45,800 movies with cartoonish deaths. So Queen's Gambit had only one or two not safe 669 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,199 for work moments, but otherwise I thought it was great and I highly recommend 670 00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,920 it. I watched Beverly Hills Cop like ten or whatever it is, like 671 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,480 the new one with Ednie Murphy. There's a new one. They bring beck 672 00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,599 all the old cast, and as a person who grew up in the eighties 673 00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:04,519 as a teenager, obviously it was a huge movie. It was just as 674 00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:08,960 bad as the originals, I would say equally uninteresting. I watched you ever 675 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,360 watch the show Forged in Fire on Netflix where they make knives. It's a 676 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:20,079 knife making competition. Watch that. And I watched one other thing. I 677 00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:23,199 can't read my handwriting. Oh, I was trying again to watch the sequel 678 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:32,199 to what is this show with the incest porn with the dragons? Yeah, 679 00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:35,679 Game of Throne, so that I get. So this thing has like a 680 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,320 ninety percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and I fall asleep every episode. It's 681 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,920 just awful and boring. And I do not recommend it. All right. 682 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:50,079 That's all I have is that it for you as well to do anything else. 683 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,119 I mean I've done a lot. I had to go up to New 684 00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:59,559 York, come back headed to Chicago for the Issues et Cetera conference, which 685 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:06,480 is my favorite podcasts. No, no, what is it so much better 686 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,719 than ours. I don't know what it is listening to for a long time. 687 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,239 And they have an annual conference, so I'm going out to that and 688 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:19,119 then I'm headed to Milwaukee for the convention. So yeah, So let me 689 00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:22,480 ask you, what is this podcast? You're talking about issues, issues, 690 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:27,320 et cetera. It is done by Lutheran's you know, I'm Lutheran, but 691 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,519 it's it's very ecumenical, like they have all sorts of religions and different denominations 692 00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,360 on to talk about issues of the day. So it's kind of a political 693 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:42,199 podcast, but with through the prism of a Christian worldview, all right, 694 00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:45,320 and it's really well done, and the host, Todd Wilken, is so 695 00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:52,599 good at asking questions and all that. Much like you, So, did 696 00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:54,760 you go to a Guided by Voices concert? Or why are you wearing a 697 00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:00,440 Guided by Voices T shirt? David? I? So, what I do 698 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:05,559 is every year I go to a T shirt online store and I pick like 699 00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:09,960 twenty t shirts I like, and I buy them and then I use them 700 00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:14,199 up over the year and then I just buy like twenty more. So I 701 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,760 do that all the time. What do you mean, use them up over 702 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,480 the year? Like I'm wearing a T shirt. I mean it looks like 703 00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,559 eagle. Yeah, it's an eagle with USA on it. And I've been 704 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,639 wearing it for like fifteen years. I have T shirts that last a long 705 00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:28,039 time. These are not the highest of quality. So I do a lot 706 00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:30,480 of like outdoor stuff with it or riding my bike with it, and I 707 00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:34,639 just really eat the money. Like maybe I'll meet a friend who also likes 708 00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:37,039 guided by voices. I don't. I never do. No one ever talks 709 00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,599 to me. I have all kinds. I have the Melvins, I don't 710 00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:44,480 know. Greg Guttfeld loves the Melvins. It's a pretty good band. And 711 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:47,840 other bands like that, Ave Mint, Silver Juice, whatever. And then 712 00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:52,840 yeah, no one ever talks to me about them. And then and then 713 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,639 that's it. I do not go and I'm into a concert, like I 714 00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:59,119 told you in like I don't know, twenty years. I know you go 715 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:02,400 to many of them, Mark, But no, all right, that's a 716 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,440 nice conversation. No one's care about that. But I will have more conversations 717 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,360 that you might not care about, but you may until them. Be lovers 718 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,519 of freedom and anxious for the friends. Gonna have a lot of Sun, 719 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,760 I'm gonna hit a home right, the littlessly