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It's almost classic mode. You know, we gave you a time to show

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up, and then I was,
by the way, yeah, because I

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was about to say that, but
I don't want to be rude. First

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of all. First of all,
you know that you guys both know that.

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That's why we gave her an earlier
time on purpose. That's so dude,

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That's why I text you to forty
five. Really well, no,

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because you were still lately, but
we were wondering when wh while we were

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waiting for you, Like you just
said it. You guys know me.

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You guys know me. Why are
you still like that? To be completely

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honest, to be completely real with
both of you, guys, you don't

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give a fuck. No, I
mean that's what I would guess. I

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ninety now you know things are a
little bit different now. But now on

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everything I love, ninety nine percent
of the time I'm early, I having

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so, I mean, it's y'all, so I'm just kidding, No,

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some real shit. Ninety nine percent
of the time I'm literally early to whatever

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I got to do. Now,
I don't believe, I swear. I

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know it's weird, and I mean
you could have proved it by today,

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but you didn't you know? I
mind you. I came from an important

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place and I was on Shaw and
I hit every red light literally like just

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my luck. But hey, I'm
here listen. Most importantly, I'm here

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put some sound effects on. No. I know it's wild because we're gonna

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get into it when we start the
episode. But you know you being late

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was the cause of you of my
first major radio gig, the first of

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many of you later before. We're
gonna get to know all about that stuff.

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So, man, Jesse, are
you ready? Let's do it?

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This could give me fire podcast?
What up on Gise? That is John

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Magic and we are back our special
guest today, which we're excited to have

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her because she's a very good friend
of both of our, is a former

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co worker, an amazing radio personality. But most importantly, I mean,

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I see it on your Instagram.
She's a great mom to her son.

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Our good friend Monica Man aka mo
momo. It's actually Monica mind oh man?

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Yeah? Did you he really did
say man? Right now? Yeah?

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I think it's everybody does. But
wait, you know you always knew

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his mom. Yeah, man,
he's got two ends at the end.

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Yes, thank you. Yeah,
But there's the there's like an athlete with

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aren't there's so many? Then they
say the man. They do, but

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I don't know that it's mon I
think that's more like your intro was like

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longtime friend, all this and you
fucked up her last name. But to

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be fair, I've been calling you
man and a lot of times you never

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corrected him. I'm sure I have. I don't remember, but you really

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don't really even use my last name. I use my first name ship nobody

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does. That's true. It's Mo. So why why didn't you ever go

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by MO on the radio or did
you? Yeah? No, no more

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on the radio? Oh Mo on
the radio? On the radio, Yeah,

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on the radio like that? I
mean, I guess maybe once in

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a while I would say that,
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Mo. Remember I was Monique when
I first started, and that was given

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to me. Let's let's start there. You're originally from here or are you

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going to represent the whole London thing? Oh? I thought you meant here

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is a radio station. I was
like, yeah, no, no,

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no, yeah, well born and
raised London, England, okay, but

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then came out here in the early
nineties and been here ever since. Old

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were you when you moved to Fresno? Why are you trying to age me

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out? I was what ten?
What was the reason for the move from

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My dad had this big idea to
move to Chicago. That was the original

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plan. So he moved to Chicago. And that's how it became a Bulls

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fan back home in England because I
was like, oh, Chicago, Michael

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Jordan, the Bulls. And then
it just didn't work out because Chicago's weather

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was too close to England's weather.
Long story short, he visited a friend

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in Fresnoe, loved it and here
we are. Wow, So where you

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were you guys in Chicago for a
little bit. We our family never went

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there because he went there to establish
everything, get a home and all that,

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and he was like, yo,
the weather is just like oh.

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So he went out there by himself. He went out to myself to get

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everything started. And then so on
the way back to England after he didn't

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really like Chicago, he stopped in
Fresnoe just to see a friend and was

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like, oh my god, palm
trees, sunshine, California. I found

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a new place for us. And
it was kind of like you could have

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kicked la right from England to Fresnoe. Everybody's like, how did you get

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from England to Freendslow. I'm like, man, you better ask my daddy.

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Got none to do with it.
This is just a side note,

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and it's it's one of those memories
that it just popped in my head after

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you said that. When I was
young, like toddler, like maybe three

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years old. I think my dad
did the same thing Chicago. He went

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to Chicago by himself to kind of
like, is this where we're gonna live

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exactly? And we stayed back in
the Motherland and then yeah, he then

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he found southern CALIFORNI well, at
least he found southern California. I mean,

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you know what. No, I
say that, and that's not very

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really really nice, because you know
what, I'm in Fresno and this is

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home, and you know, I
love it. This is where I've pretty

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much grown up and done it all. So shout out to Fresno. Yeah,

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I mean I'm born and raised here, so I like it. Yeah,

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you got five five nine on your
shirt? Yeah high school? Did

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you go to Hoover? Right?
Yep? What was the childhood in Fresno?

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Like? It was cool? I
mean obviously just getting here. The

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culture is so different, right,
so I didn't really fit in. I

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was like the ugly duckling. I
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but I didn't understand the culture.
Everything was different here. Back home was

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really strict, and I got teased
from my accent and I didn't used to

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shave when the accent, Wow,
what hold on? Reverse sh did you

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say? I was in the sixth
grade, and yeah, I had hair

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on my legs, right, And
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grade shaving their legs and shit,
and I'm sorry, And I remember getting

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teased like are you gonna shave those
things? I'm like, actually, no,

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motherfucker, I'm so. I remember
like little things like that, like

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damn, y'all fast out here,
you're shaving your legs at ten? I

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don't know, just like little things
like that. But I got teased from

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my accent, but not necessarily in
a bad way. People would just be

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like say something, yeah, can
you say this sentence? When did that

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fade away? Do you remember?
Well? I started faking an American accent

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seventh grade. Yeah. I started
faking it because I was tired of people

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saying oh my god, so cute. Can you say that again? I'm

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like witch, I said water like, but I said what, so it

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was a little different, but I
remember faking it and then I just caught

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on. The funny thing is my
sister never faked it. Obviously, Mom

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and Dad never faked it. So
they still sound pretty British. Do you

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kind of regret not sounding like that
anymore? Because it's cool to yes and

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no. I mean I guess yeah, I was young and you know,

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dumb, but it's gone. Yes, Well, my family comes back from

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home to visit us. Like when
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out like literally, I'll just start
sounding British again. It's kind of weird.

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Yeah, they've said your influence.
I know, I just I don't

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notice it. But they've mentioned that
several times. So we could fast forward

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fast forward to when MO and I
met. You know, it's such a

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cool I don't even want to use
the word coincidence. But how we how

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we met before we before we anything, And I'll tell the story in a

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second, but that's how we met, and then now we're like all great

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friends and it's crazy. So here's
a story. I was doing radio in

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La and then I got offered the
Fresno job. But before I got offered

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the job, they said, we
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you to stay, stay a couple
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tour you around, uh for like
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they've back. Then it was clear
channel. They booked me a flight out

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La X. Flew here at the
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your hotel's going to be right across
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the Maria the Mary. I was
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and who checks me in? No
mode check me in? Isn't that weird?

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I was like, who is this? Mother? And you were the

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whole You did the friendly like you
talk to the guests and you're like,

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oh, what are you doing here? You're here for business. I'm like,

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yeah, I'm here for a possible
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Now. This had to be two
yep, that's yeah, two,

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three, yeah, going into three. You were like a receptionist. She

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was there absolutely job yep, front
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I just remember you being so kind
and correct me if I'm wrong to slip

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his phone numbers tell the truth.
Correct me if I'm wrong. But I

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told you, yeah, I might
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and I might be taking a job
here. And I think you said,

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why are you moving? Why are
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I probably did. But you said
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was coming from LA and I might
be doing radio. And then that was

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basically it. That's the last time
I saw you that I took the job

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I started. Yeah, damn.
Yeah, it's just so weird. So

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from you working there, how did
your radio career start? God, I

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got the worst memory. I was
hoping y'all wouldn't ask me all these questions.

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So Jizo brought up that you were
an intern. I don't even remember.

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I was like, actually was?
I was interning with Ji? Yeah

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together, I came little you're but
I think you're like a semester before me

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though, Yeah, yeah like that. So how did that happen? I

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heard about the program from school.
I want to say I heard a commercial

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on that That's how I heard it. Yeah, they did to play commercial

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commercial. But I was in the
master Yeah probably place. Isn't that even

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more crazy? But I was in
the mass communication and journalism department at Present

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State. So it was radio something
you wanted to get into or just like

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mask something in mass communications school to
be in a sports commentator. So yes,

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yeah, you know, because I
just I've always had a love for

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basketball. I wanted to do that. That's why I went to school and

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studied. But I think they talked
about maybe an opportunity and an internship in

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radio there, but you had to
do something. You had to do TV

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or radio, like it's some interning
hours. And then I think it was

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a commercial I heard, and so
I maybe came in filled out an application.

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I think that's how it worked out, and they called me back and

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interviewed I think with g if I'm
right, and that was it, right?

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Yeah, And I think you could
intern a max of three semesters something

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like that. I was for about
eight semesters. Yeah, I mean,

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I don't know how that happened.
But what do you remember from your first

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time in years? Yeah, because
I don't remember anything grinding. I remember.

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I remember a lot. I remember, especially when Jise came through,

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like we were together at every event. We hustled, we hustled like we

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were making one hundred dollars an hour. Yeah, we were at working,

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working for free, but we didn't. Money wasn't even in thing. I

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mean, mind you, this was
twenty this was two thousand, let's just

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say three. I mean it wasn't
so bad in the house. I did

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have written stuff, but money wasn't. Money wasn't what it was now,

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right, like you got to change
jobs and shit. Exactly back then,

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I think, you know, I
don't know how surviving, but I was.

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But I was fine. So it
wasn't like, oh I got to

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make money to go to this event. No, I didn't even question it.

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We were at every event that you
could even possibly think of. Hell,

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we were probably at events for the
country station and the damn rock station.

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We want even like remotes. I
was showing up too, everything everything.

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We didn't question the money. We
didn't even ask for money. We

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just wanted to be in. We
had a passion for this music shit like

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this entertainment business. You know.
And Jizzo knows this because we talk about

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you just knowing someone has it,
and I do remember I was a fan

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of GIZZL. I know he had
it, and I think you were the

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other person. I was like,
she has it, and you know this

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is gonna she has a good future. And the only reason why I bring

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up YouTube because then is this one. I recruited everyone to be part of

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this thing called the Flavor Unit.
Yeah. You basically recruited me and Mo

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like help run your show. And
you were doing night show. I was

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doing the night show. Yeah,
he had a three hour show. Still

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complaining was it? Yeah, yeah, you go from seven to ten.

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That's right, fucking three hours.
Right. But anyways, you needed like

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some side kids. I wanted the
party atmosphere that I was used to,

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so I was trying to remain We
were give it to you. Yeah,

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we were background noise. Yeah,
so it was YouTube and butters. We

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even made shirts. Yeah, it
was John Magic and the favor I mean,

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and that wasn't like the early days
of radio, but that was early

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enough that we are blessed us three. I mean, I'm speaking just for

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us three now that we were blessed
to experience kind of the early radio day

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where there was less politics and more
fun. Ye, say what you want

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to do, what you want talk
about the other station. It's all good.

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It's in fun and games like you
know, like it was because we

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were having this conversation with Carmen,
and she was even talking about how like

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all the pranks that she had to
do, and like that's wow, that's

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not even a thing anymore. Pardon
them, I never did that, but

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even that pranks like like doing fun
stuff in the radio. But people are

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listening in their cars, but they
can still see it because it's it's so

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well spoken of and yeah, like
it was different. Man. Before we

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go to the next timeline, during
the Flavor Unit days during the night show

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with us, any memories that stand
out to you, it's like tons.

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I mean, not not specific incidences, but just the fact that I wanted

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to show up every single day.
I didn't want to miss a I didn't

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want to miss a beat. I
loved it. It was my I mean,

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and you know, it's a passion
that you have. It's not something

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that you just want to go to
work today. No, man, I

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can't wait to get there. What
are we talking about tonight? What are

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we doing tonight? Who were talking
shit about tonight? You know in a

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fun, fun, fun way,
all those things? Where were going tonight?

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What club we hosted tonight? What
club will we falling asleep at?

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Like you know, what artists is
coming what time we got to be there,

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Like there was no like it was
just all about what does radio need

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because we're gonna be there, like
we're gonna do this. What was so

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what happened next? You were still
so during the Flavor Unit you were still

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an intern I don't know, was
I am I gonna have to be like

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the history guy for all this.
I have a good memory. Yeah,

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So I remember a part time situation
had it opened up. It was just

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like weekends, because you know,
that's how like you start. And then

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I remember g I said, if
I wanted to apply for it, I

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think I had to give him air
check and you added too, and from

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what I was told, it was
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Mo ended up getting it. She
she was a little bit more seasoned than

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I was. I think I was
just on my first semester, and like

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you said, you were ahead of
me, and so Mo had gotten the

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weekend gig and that's how you had
gotten in. And then I still was

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rocking an internship for like the next
year, I think after that, so

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I was doing weekends and probably getting
paid for it. But so then I

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was still doing Flavor Unit, maybe
maybe running the board or something for like

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an hour. I mean, yeah, remember so fun. Do you remember

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getting hired like a f actually getting
here? Do you remember that? No?

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I really don't know. I mean
I have a picture of me signing

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a contract with G I kind of
remember that, but it just when was

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do you know, like when you
went to the morning show. I guess

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that's kind of like what we want
to get into. Great question. I

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remember the I know, aren't you
going to answer that? For? No?

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I remember the morning show. It
was Margarita, if I'm right.

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She was doing mornings with and Dre
and then she left for whatever reason.

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Then you stepped in, right,
and then I think they came to me.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
I think that's kind of how that

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went down. And I started doing
mornings. Were you doing Yeah, so

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you were doing mornings and weekends or
just mornings or mornings and mid days.

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It came to midday shortly after again, and I started doing mornings and mid

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days. And I think I'm still
doing weekends. Okay, I think I'm

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still doing weekends. So from our
memory went from weekends there was an opening

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in the morning, then you got
on yeah, something like that, and

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then that's when it was the Juice
Crew is used G and Dre and then

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you guys are rocking? Well was
the run on that? How many years?

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Because I know you guys were a
popular show? Oh three about four

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years? Maybe three? Was it
more than that? Cat okay? And

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then the big thing I guess it
years ten thirteen years, and we were

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we were you know, we were
good. We were family like no you

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That's what I remember them three being
like, yo, this is a good

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trio. Yeah. Well, I
mean I think uh, because I think

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they had switched out because it felt
like the girl was always getting switched out,

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right, because even before Margarita,
there was another. It was another

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she wasn't it the one who had
she had died. I think she had

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passed away. Oh yeah, she
was Asian. Yeah, but that's when

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I first started here. And then
I heard about Chee Chi le Oh.

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I think, so, yeah,
I heard about her, So when I

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moved here, she passed away.
And then I think Margarita had got on

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because she had won a contest and
then she had a little I know,

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my memory is crazy, but she
had she had left for whatever reason,

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and then that's when you slipped in, yes, and then feel like that

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was like that show like they had
find their there I found their trio until

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more fucked it up and and we'll
get to that. No, yes,

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so man, those are some good
times. I'll give us any details of

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you getting fired for my first time
in radio, absolutely well. It started

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with a few suspensions first, right, a few like listen, I'm just

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going to keep it as possible and
as real as possible. During that time

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when I was doing the morning show, obviously it was kind of the start

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of radio for me, and I
was doing it and I was absolutely loving

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it. It was like, like, you guys know, the passion we

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have for this ship is different.
It's not just trying to be on the

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air because you want to be something, you want to be cool. Yeah,

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it is itself. No, it's
some real shit. It's some real

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love and passion for it, right, And man did I love it like

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it was my everything. At that
same time, I started an I'm trying

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to say this the most humblest way
ever, and y'all know me, I'm

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not even fucking like that. But
I started blowing up a little bit,

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right, So people started knowing who
I was, and I was I was

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given the opportunity to like literally host
so many clubs events remem so for over

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a year, maybe two years,
maybe three years, I can't remember,

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but I was hosting clubs Thursday,
Friday, and Saturday nights for show,

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like three nights a week, one
hundred percent. Sometimes Wednesday, so Wednesday,

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Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So
I'm getting to the club. Let's

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just say about no later than ten. But the problem was I was leaving

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the club. I don't know.
You guys know how it works back in

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the day. I don't know how
it is now. But wait to get

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a because you're waiting to get paid
reading. So the club's done at one

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twenty. Then you gotta sit around
wait for them to count their fucking money.

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You gotta make sure you're getting your
money. You got it. You

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know, it's so much involved.
You guys know behind the scenes what it

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is. So there it is.
I'm getting my little whatever amount of money

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at two o'clock at night, and
then I'm going home. Then I'm trying

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to wake up and be at the
studio by five, five fifteen in the

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morning. It became a major issue. I couldn't I just couldn't be on

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time. And then mind you.
Of course I was probably drinking ninety percent

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of the time, right, I
was a rookie. I didn't realized the

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busy in this aspect, like,
come on, mob professional, It was

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kind of part of your stint,
right you go, you chill, people

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buying you drinks like you're drinking.
You're having a good time. And I

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got so caught up in that,
like and I was new in radio.

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I didn't know anybody. I was
having such a great time, and I

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was meeting so many great people and
they were making me feel so great.

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And it was just a vibe like
literally four days a week, every week.

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And that's when clubs were popping in
Fresno, Presnel clubs now. But

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shit back there in early two thousands. I mean, it was like Monday

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through Sundays. We were lit.
We were lit, and we was at

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most of them, most of them, and I was there. And so

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what became the main issue which led
me to get fired for my first time

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was just I could not be on
time to my show. I'm showing up

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to my show. It's damn near
over, you know. And g Man

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is And by the way, g
Man was our boss at that time.

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He was the program director of the
whole station. So I'm walking in all

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my boss to our show late as
hell at least three days a week,

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at least three days a week,
you were late three days a week probably,

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oh man. And when I'm saying
late, I'm saying okay, thirty

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minutes sometimes an hour at some time. Yeah. Like, well, first

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they kept it in house. I
mean, I'm not gonna lie man Ge

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to this day. I can't thank
him enough for how much he looked out

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for me. If g wanted to, he could have been fired me after

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the first let's just say four times
being late, because that's just unprofessional.

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So he just kept giving you a
chance. And I think he knew what

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I was out there doing too,
and he knew I wasn't a bad person.

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He knew I wasn't like I fucked
this job out of here. He

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knew how much I loved it and
had a passion for it. But I

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mean, at the end of the
day, he had to do his job

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right. So was it just because
you were you were just too tired to

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get up, or you slept through
the alarm. I don't know what the

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fuck I was doing. Shit,
I was just waking up and I was

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like, oh my god, it's
five o'clock. I was supposed to be

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here at five o'clock. Like it
just literally that's simplified, and that's stupid.

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When I look back now, I'm
like, wow, Mo, But

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I mean it was a learning lesson. I get, well, was it

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because you were just talking late today? Imagine that she was still doing radio?

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Now with the technology we have where
you could record shows, i'd be

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late for my home recorded ship.
Yeah. No. But so that's just

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basically what happened. He had given
me so many chances, even dre As

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my big bro, would put me
inside like Mo, man, come on,

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like come on, so what was
the sword? So then I got

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warning after warning and g was like, MO, like this can't happen again,

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Like now corporates on my ass.
You know sometimes people are listening to

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the radio. You're not even on
the radio. They're oh, MO has

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the day off? No, MO, just ain't even here yet. How

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many times can jeez? You know? Yeah? Yeah, so he had

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my back, man, he really
did. But and he gave me those

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warnings like if this happens again,
Mo, but this is probably like one

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hundred times, I don't know,
like I can't do this. I have

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to let you go, Like now
the uppers are in on this. I

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got to do my job. I
said, okay, no problem, won't

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be laid ever again. Shit next
day guess what? Okay, maybe not

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the next day, but it happened
again, obviously, and he was just

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like and I could tell he was
so hurt because I knew it was coming.

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Yeah. Well yeah, So what
was the routine like of you,

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of you coming in and then what
did they say? Where did you go?

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No? I don't remember, but
it's that typical radio stuff, like

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you feel it, like you feel
sonics going down, like everyone's like the

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energies heard in the studio, like
I felt it. And then he might

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have just been like, this is
what it is. And was it the

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classic thing where you do or they
have you do the whole show first,

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because I heard that's what they do
so you don't talk shit? Yeah yeah,

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oh yeah, probably because it's been
incidences in radio. One happened in

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early two thousands. I can't remember
who it was now, but they let

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someone go and let her do her
show. After that, she went off

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on the air. Oh my gosh, I'll never forget that. I wish

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I could remember. It was a
classic. I'm sure you could find it

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on YouTube. But she was like
this and that's why she just like told

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everybody's business. But I mean,
and I would never have done that anyway,

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because it was my fault. I
remember a memory I have from that

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is I was upset. I was
but at you because you were such a

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talent and we were all so disappointed
you really did it to yourself. I

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did, and we would just be
like, you know, just to be

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open and honest. I was like, she's stupid, Like, she's so

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stupid for doing that. And the
older I get and the more I look

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back on it, I'm like,
damn. You know, like obviously everything

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happens for a reason. I wonder
what that reason was. When I got

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fired that day. You know what
I did. I left the studio,

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signed my little paper, literally left
the studio. I think I had a

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Honda at the time. God,
my Honda. Drove straight to the cemetery

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to Boogie's gravesite, right, and
I just bawled for like two hours straight,

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sat there cried, just oh it
was it was. I mean,

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I know y'all haven't had a heartbreak
before, right, that feeling in your

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heart like I can't explain it right, Like you got cheated on, Like

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it's the worst. I can't as
like triple triple that. It was horrible,

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right, So I sat there crying, crying, And then right after

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that, I went and got this
tattoo right here, just this one,

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and it says time waits for no
Man. So my last name is man.

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So instead of putting time weights for
no man, which is the saying,

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right, I put time weights for
no mon to remind myself, you

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fucking idiot, you got fired over
being late. Like, think about it,

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you know. I mean, it's
that's just literally what it was,

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what you get fired for for being
late. People don't understand it when I

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say that, but that's just what
it was, you know. And so

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trust me, to this day,
you're supposed to have no regrets, and

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maybe I don't. Maybe I don't
regret it. It's been a while now,

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but I'm like, what the fuck? You know? So then after

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that was you jumped over to the
competition, right, wasn't it like literally

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the next day or that day.
I just remember that day. Wow,

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Wow, I just got we got
to remind people listening because they're not radio

411
00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.680
savvy, not everybody, but in
radio, word gets around like something happens

412
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:34.279
in radio. Everybody knows what they
posted on like that radio. Yeah,

413
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:38.400
and even if they don't post it, somebody's like someone is gonna know before

414
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.599
you even tell anybody, which is
crazy. Yeah. So word got out

415
00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.279
fast, like I think fast.
I think I had God, like everybody

416
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.759
knew within like an hour for some
reason. That's just how radio is,

417
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.440
right exactly. And then I got
a phone call and I can't even remember,

418
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.480
So you got recruited? Yeah,
am phone call? Wow, Okay,

419
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.319
okay, come over here, you
know, come you remember who called

420
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:03.920
you? I don't. I want
to say Tommy, but it might have

421
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.400
been. He was the people like
come through, come over here, get

422
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.119
on the air tonight. And I
was on the air night. I remember.

423
00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.240
I remember I was listening because I
wanted to know, like I wanted

424
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.960
to know like this I want I
wanted to know. Now that you're saying

425
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:25.200
this, I do remember all of
us were like wet because what is she

426
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:34.319
gonna say? Oh my god,
that we got Carmen podcast. You're gonna

427
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.680
hear mo literally from the like somebody
comes into the pick up the tickets They're

428
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.680
like, who is that? And
what is happening? Back there's a little

429
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.960
toy, you know what. And
it's funny that she brings up my laugh

430
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.279
because when I was doing the morning
show with G and Dre, they used

431
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.839
to always like harass me about my
laugh, Like I tried to check as

432
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:55.759
loud as I remember, like,
yeah, Jisel is shutting you up several

433
00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:03.160
times hours like mo too, Yeah
it's embarrassing means I remember the yeah,

434
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:11.079
I'm so. We got people out
there trying to work and ship used to

435
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:18.920
get your laugh, that's right,
But yeah, man, my laugh like

436
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.160
that kind of got in the way
of some things too. I mean,

437
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.440
I can't help it. But they
liked it or did they not like it?

438
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:27.720
I can't remember, but y'all used
to hate it though, yes,

439
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:33.359
used to still still I really try
to control it, but sometimes it just

440
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.039
comes out. Anyways, let's get
back on track. So, uh,

441
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.319
you're that was it? Yeah?
You got You were at the competition.

442
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.039
They threw you on air that day
and I think it was I want to

443
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.440
say it was Davy to put you
on, and I just remember he was

444
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:49.440
like, we're gonna shake the city
up. He was like this is about

445
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.799
to go crazy, and I already
knew what was gonna happen. We already

446
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.319
knew, and I just wanted to
see like how most sounded or what she

447
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.480
was going to say. And yeah, they put you on that was that

448
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.400
was Yeah. Well I guess I
can't really say the station, but you

449
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:03.839
can say, yeah, okay.
So that was the other station in Fresno

450
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:11.039
with the same format, Q ninety
seven and that was out in Vicealia.

451
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.640
Yeah, we've talked about it in
the House episodes. Yep, it was.

452
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:15.799
It was similar to a house.
We used to call it the basis,

453
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.279
similar to house. It was a
house. It was a house made

454
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.920
into a studio. Yeah, so
what was the offer you're gonna do?

455
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.279
What show? Oh gosh, she
you put me on the spot probably started

456
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.799
off as like weekends or some ride
or weekends, because I don't know days.

457
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:34.119
Is this during the time. I
mean, I guess we could kind

458
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.759
of jump, you know, we
don't want to kind of take too long

459
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.559
on it. But was this the
era of you going to different stations like

460
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.319
you for a minute, I don't
remember, Like they like I have nothing

461
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:49.799
but love for everybody there. They
just like became my bros. Like I

462
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.799
loved it there, just like I
loved it here. You know what I'm

463
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:57.440
saying. I mean fit right in, drove to Vicealia every damn day.

464
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.200
We called it the basement, went
to the basement, did my show.

465
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.640
It was great and that now that's
the story of because I got fired from

466
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.920
there too, right yeah up,
let me just jump to that story because

467
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.720
to this day that story is fucking
crazy. But the reason I got fired

468
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:19.559
from Q ninety seven because everything was
all good. I was doing my thing,

469
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.240
having great times. This is a
very long story. Short, long

470
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.359
story short. There was a concert. I don't even know who it was.

471
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:29.319
I think Drake. Yeah, I
mean, come out here, it'd

472
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.680
have been Drake. I remember,
No, I don't remember. Kendrick opened

473
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.319
for Drake. Yeah. Then when
Kendrick came upstairs here at the station first

474
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.200
went to that show. Yeah I
didn't know. That is when Kendrick opened

475
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.960
and it was a Drake. Was
this Wow? This was this full Circle

476
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:52.680
Arena or probably Save Mark Center and
this check this fucking crazy ass story out.

477
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.680
So so a winner had one tickets
to the Drake show. Mind,

478
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.200
you were in Vicelia. I want
to say the show was that night,

479
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:04.440
right, So somebody affiliated with the
radio station. I'm not gonna say no

480
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.519
names. I don't want to go
there. But someone affiliated with the radio

481
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:12.079
station called me and was like,
hey, do you mind taking the winner

482
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:18.400
who lives in Fresno taking their tickets
to the Save Art Center, meet them

483
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:19.799
there, give them their tickets there. It was that type of thing.

484
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.240
Okay, and mind you my memories
kind of shot, but that was the

485
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.799
main thing, and I was just
like, okay, yeah, cool,

486
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.519
I'll do that. So I did
that long story short, get to the

487
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.319
Savemart Center. While I'm there,
right, and this is a long story

488
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.039
short. While I'm at the Save
Art Center, I am calling and you

489
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.599
guys know me, I'm not about
no shady ass fucking shit. I was

490
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.680
in radio hell of years prior to
that. I've had advantage of getting any

491
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.920
tickets I want. And just like
we all did an we could go wherever

492
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.799
we want, do whatever we want, right for free. So I'm there,

493
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.960
I'm calling the listener to say,
hey, I'm over here at this

494
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.240
location, meet me for your tickets. I had no service, like literally,

495
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.960
I was trying to get a hold
of this participant, could not participant.

496
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.039
Sorry, I'm thinking about my listener. Listener, Yeah, texting and

497
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.480
calling. I just there was no
service for some reason at the same Mart

498
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:07.759
center wherever I was. Yeah,
and so I'm just like, this is

499
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.680
annoying. I'm trying to like go
into the show because of course I have

500
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:12.799
my own tickets. Ago I'm trying
to go on the show. Like,

501
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.119
how am I gonna keep just waiting
out here? So I'm okay, let

502
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.079
me go inside and then I'll just
keep hitting them from inside and then I'll

503
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.759
go outside and give him his tickets. Long story short, it was even

504
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:23.640
worse Thanside couldn't get a hold of
my dad show starting, and shit,

505
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.079
yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
I wasn't worried about it no more.

506
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.799
I kind of forgot because I'm I'm
in the mix. I'm a shit Drake's

507
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.960
coming out like it was that type
of thing, right, Long story short.

508
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.440
Listener never got the tickets. Long
story short, it just never happened.

509
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.759
The next day, I come to
work the GM at the time,

510
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.119
now my program director because he always
had my back, but the general manager,

511
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.279
you know, kind of the ones
that never been a program director's boss.

512
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.440
Yeah, so literally came down pissed
off, didn't ask me anything about

513
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.359
the situation. Literally basically told me
I'm done. Wow, didn't even let

514
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.680
me explain why the listener did not
get the tickets because the listener's mama called

515
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.440
and compleat rightfully, So I would
too, I'd be pissed. I even

516
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.319
offered, I will go to T
mobile and get a print out of how

517
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:10.119
many times I called in Texas Listener
to get the tickets. But somehow it

518
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:11.920
just didn't happen. I had no
service. Literally, it was just that

519
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.200
dumb of a story and it just
never happened, right, And I'm like,

520
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.599
damn, I should never have done
this a favor for this person to

521
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:19.519
hook him up and give him the
tickets anyway, I should have just had

522
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.759
him drive to fight sales. So
basically, they never got their tickets,

523
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.440
so they were a mad. Yeah, of course, and I understand,

524
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.119
Yeah, thousand percent. I would
be pissed as hell. But you're gonna

525
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.400
fire me over that. You're supposed
to be loyal. I'm your I'm your

526
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.720
loyal like on your personality you think
I would like, I don't know what

527
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.240
they thought, Like he didn't even
give me a chance to explain myself,

528
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.680
like this is what happened. Bro, it was just kind of like,

529
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:42.960
oh, yeah, you're kind of
out of here. We got to complain.

530
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.559
Damn. It was so crazy.
You know, I back you hundred

531
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.279
percent on how they did that.
My question is, I'm just trying to

532
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:57.359
put myself in that situation. I
would be contacting this person through my drive

533
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.880
through like throughout the day the men
I got the ticket, this I was

534
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.880
asked to take, Like this was
literally late like probably after my together.

535
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.480
It was last thing like this person
said, Hey, I was gonna go

536
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.680
up there and grab the tickets,
but I'm in Fresno. Can you just

537
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.599
grab them on your way out and
give him to the to the listener.

538
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.079
It was I was doing a favor
for somebody else, right, And it's

539
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.319
still follow me because I accepted the
favor. Yeah, I'll do it,

540
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:23.400
no problem. But I should have
said no, because you know, it

541
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:28.599
just gets too sometimes like and that's
obviously what happened. Literally, that is

542
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.279
that's the story. Damn. Like
it's like, if you really like fucked

543
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.839
with me and knew what I brought
to the table at this radio station and

544
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.240
how much passion I had for how
much love I had, you would call

545
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:38.519
me in and be like, mo, what happened. He didn't even do

546
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.799
that. The thing is, they
could have made it up to the listener

547
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.119
in a way, giving them some
other tickets. And just like, if

548
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.720
anything, I most suspend you,
but I feel like even a suspension is

549
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.119
a lot would have been wrong.
But that would have been better than getting

550
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:53.799
fired. Yeah, exactly, like
literally and I and I and I felt

551
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.480
so bad for that listener of course, because I would never do such a

552
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.920
thing, right. My intention was
to get in the tickets. It just

553
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.480
got the night just got fucked.
But I sent I think his mom or

554
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:07.720
him a nice email explaining how sorry
it was what happened. And the mom

555
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.759
even wrote me back like not all
pissed, but just but saying I understand.

556
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.359
I was pissed. Of course I'm
pissed, but I understand, you

557
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.480
know, like she had respect for
what I did. They let go of

558
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.119
the guy that you did the favor
for you. No, he was one

559
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.240
of the headhunters. Yea, yeah, he was one of the head on

560
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:28.559
because he's really the root of the
reason. Yeah. Yeah. I never

561
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.680
brought that up, never said nothing. I just couldn't believe it. I

562
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:31.880
was just like, okay, we're
doing this again, all right? I

563
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.759
never knew that. Yeah, okay, so that's fire number two. Then

564
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:38.880
what did you do after that?
Then? I got a phone call maybe

565
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:46.200
that day or the next day from
program director in Bakersfield. Jay read fucking

566
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.880
dog to this day man. And
that's that's the great thing. I still

567
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.599
got such a great relationship with all
my former program directors, you know what

568
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.079
I'm saying. But he called me
and was like, ever thought about Bakersfield?

569
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.720
And I was like, uh no, to be honest, I haven't,

570
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.119
but Shit talk to me, and
long story short, he just basically

571
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.640
said, you know, we might
have an open position if you're interested to

572
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.840
come check it out this and that
I went, you know, you introduced

573
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.679
me to the guys there and said, you know, let her get on

574
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.519
air just to see how you feel
in it. Long story short, I

575
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.800
did that obviously, fell in love
with it, and shit moved out there

576
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.760
like two months later, got me
apartment. And how long were you at

577
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.559
that station that was hot? A
few years? Yeah? Yeah, it

578
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:30.800
was that. It was HITS ninety
three point one, which was like pop

579
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.400
station. Yeah, you know,
like justin Timberlake and stuff like that.

580
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.360
And they gave you more responsibilities there
too. If I'm not mistaken, I

581
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:43.679
feel like it was weren't you like
the promotions director too or someone? Yeah,

582
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.960
well that was that Q ninety seven. Oh okay, promotions. Yeah,

583
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.159
I was doing helping with the promotions
and all that at Q ninety seve,

584
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.880
which I absolutely loved. And I
think you didn't you tell me you

585
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.480
enjoyed Bakersfield, like you know what
I did. I mean, so many

586
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.880
people talk shit about Bakersfield, like, ain't nothing out there, It's just

587
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.320
a pit stop, you know,
and whatever. But I got out there

588
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.960
and I was by myself, and
I got my own spot, and I

589
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.079
go to the radio station every day. I got an apartment literally across the

590
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.760
street from the radio station from here, like to the Marriott. It was

591
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.880
that convenient for me. And I
was at the studio all day, and

592
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.280
I had all the my boys were
my boys or like my big bros,

593
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:21.199
my family, like at the station
every day. And then what do you

594
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.159
know, I started getting all these
gigs. So every night I'm like out

595
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.440
hosting stuff in a city where I
don't know anyone, which actually felt good,

596
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.440
like I didn't know anyone. And
then on the weekends, I could

597
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.920
just go out anywhere looking ugly as
hell because I didn't know anyone. So

598
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.719
that part of it was different.
And I didn't have to be like,

599
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.800
oh, let me get cute just
in case I see someone and they want

600
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.679
to take a pic. Heyll No, nobody knew me in Bakersfield, and

601
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.719
that was kind of a I don't
know, I kind of liked that for

602
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.039
a while. In the beginning,
it was like lokey, it was like

603
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.480
low key. Yeah, it felt
good. But then you know, I

604
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.400
started doing more remotes, more events, more clubs, hosting stuff. It

605
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.679
started to get real lit. Yeah, and I was doing everything by myself,

606
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:00.239
you know, and we were keeping
we were in touch. Now I'm

607
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.840
sure, and I think you didn't
get fired or did you. I think

608
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.599
you to leave. Yeah, that's
what I remember that. Oh, that's

609
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.119
what happened. I was trying to
remember, like why you left Baker's.

610
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.159
Yeah, I didn't want to.
I didn't want to. I remember we

611
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:15.840
would conversate it. Now it's hitting
me, Yeah, you would. You

612
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.079
would ask me like what should I
do? Yeah, I stay here.

613
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.239
I wanted to stay, but you
know, I needed my family around me

614
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.239
and all. Yeah, you were
saying I remember our conversations. Yeah,

615
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.880
that is so crazy and and so
I mean, and it wasn't. I

616
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:32.880
was in denial because I knew.
I was thinking like, Okay, when

617
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.920
I have this baby, how am
I going to do this out here?

618
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.159
Like you know what I mean?
Plus I needed time bonding with my baby.

619
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.360
It was just so many different thoughts. But I couldn't imagine myself leaving

620
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.039
radio. So I told my boss
I'll be back and he was like,

621
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:46.679
no, you won't. Like he
knew, you know, but I couldn't

622
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.320
say those words, you know that
I was leaving. And here's another funny

623
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.639
thing. When I was getting ready
to, you know, do my last

624
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.960
days in radio, I got a
phone call from the program director in Las

625
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.920
Vegas and she offered me a fucking
caig yet Vegas for a little bit.

626
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:05.039
Or no, didn't do Vagae,
Oh you turned it Downburquerque, New Mexico.

627
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.639
While I was in Bakersfield, I
got another station and I was voice

628
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.199
tracking for them. I was recording. I forgot the name of the station,

629
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.679
but it was a station now in
Albuquerque, New Mexico. Shout out

630
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.320
to me was like a station the
opportunity. Yeah, I kind of like

631
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:21.559
a sister station to the Bakersfield Company. So I was I had a show

632
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.280
out there and then the show and
Bakersfield at the same time. But when

633
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:27.079
I when I had made the decision
for sure, okay coming up, I

634
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.000
got a bounce. I got to
get out of Bakersfield. It was I

635
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.079
think I might have been about seven
eight months pregnant at that time. I

636
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.880
got a phone call to come to
Vegas and do Vegas Radio, and you

637
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.360
turned it down. And I had
been wanting to do Vegas radio. I

638
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.320
had to turn it down. I
was eight months pregnant. They wanted me

639
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.079
to pop yeah, And I was
like, was it that female that female

640
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.840
program director? Yeh, do you
remember her name? She was like big,

641
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.280
she was a big name in the
radio. I forgot her name.

642
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.880
I'm losing it in my mind.
I know. I don't like, oh

643
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.239
yeah, yeah, you know,
you know, I know, I know

644
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.559
because yeah, okay, so that
never happened, So that never just stayed

645
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.760
here. Yeah, well you came
back here, you had your son,

646
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.960
had my son, and you're on
mom mode for years. Oh yeah,

647
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.760
I didn't work for a minute,
because then what got what got you back

648
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:20.000
into radio? Gizo says, I
had a part of it. I don't

649
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.320
remember, and I don't either.
I assumed that an opening happened and magic

650
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.719
had through your name and a hat. That's what I thought, you know

651
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.639
what you saying that? I can
you can you remind me who the p

652
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:36.800
D was at that time? Had
to be ste No, it wasn't Tony.

653
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.360
It wasn't Tony because I left.
Yeah, Steve Weed, All right,

654
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:45.760
Okay, I think if I'm not
mistaken, I think you're right,

655
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:52.239
Like, because you are APD,
that's it's a program director. You through

656
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.159
that flex and I said that it's
it's been years. Yeah, I want

657
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:58.800
to say you did do that,
and I think it was just like a

658
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.440
part time weekend thing, but just
to get you back and get her back

659
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.519
in the building, because the plan
is always once you're in the building,

660
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.960
something will happen. You're a good
worker, and so I knew that would

661
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.480
happen for you. So I think
I think you're right. I did.

662
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.960
I did a fight for you to
get back weekends or something like that,

663
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.119
and then you did. Right,
Yeah it was weekends, but I would

664
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.800
be here all the time. I
don't know what the hell I was doing,

665
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.760
but I was always around and then
this is sort of like wrapping up

666
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:28.599
your radio career. Did you get
a full time gig during that stint of

667
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.880
getting back Yes, because you did
the night show night Oh wow. So

668
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.800
from there the night position opened up. They offered it to me. Of

669
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.360
course, I said yes, and
then I started doing Yes. Then I

670
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.679
started doing nights for a minute.
So I did nights for a while,

671
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:44.960
absolutely loved it. It was a
struggle because my son was like what two

672
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.599
years old at that time. Three
I mean between us three and the rest

673
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.440
of the world listening, I had
to bring him to work with me sometimes.

674
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.280
I remember struggle. He used to
be in the background talking and shit,

675
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.280
and I'm trying to do a live
talk break. I'm like, oh

676
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.119
my god, one day I'm gonna
get caught. But I had to do

677
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:00.039
what I had to do, man, And so he would be in the

678
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.800
studio with me many times while I
was doing my show. But was this

679
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.840
around twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
Yeah, it had to be, yeah,

680
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.679
twenty nineteen. This was COVID COVID
twenty twenty, so it was the

681
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.760
beginning of twenty twenty. Okay,
so it was right before that, huh

682
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:20.039
yep, So yeah, because I've
been out of radio three. It'll be

683
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.760
four years in August, I think, And this is a good way to

684
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:29.039
kind of, you know, wrap
up the storyline of the beginning of MO

685
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:36.400
and I meeting when I first moved
here, and the during that time of

686
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:42.679
twenty twenty, the nationwide layoffs from
iHeartRadio, Heart Radio because we were going

687
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.920
to be taken over by as they
say, robots. Yeah, so can

688
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.880
you any memories from that lege?
Yeah. The memories I have is when

689
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.840
the big dogs came down and they
would have like meetings in our studio while

690
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.400
we were at work. They would
come Visita Corporate. Corporate was here.

691
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.400
They were in and out. We
and you always know something's going on in

692
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.760
radio, so we all had like
we're like kind of on the edge of

693
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.920
our seats, like something's happening,
Like they keep visiting here. It was

694
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.480
something as weird, the energy's off. It was going on for weeks,

695
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.079
you know. And then I remember
one of the guys came in to talk

696
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.960
to me about my job and what
I do and how I feel about it

697
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.199
and all this shit, and I
was like, what is happening? Yeah,

698
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.480
did you go through that interview process
where you're trying to corporate people.

699
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.840
I didn't. Yeah, yeah,
same year. Yeah, yeah, we

700
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:27.039
all did. I think they were
talking to everyone. I think they made

701
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.159
it very obvious. I don't know
about you, guys. I didn't think

702
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:31.719
anything of it. You didn't,
No, I did. I thought it

703
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.960
was weird because I'm like, the
fuck is going on around here? The

704
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.920
energy just felt off. I was
in a different situation. I got bamboozled

705
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:47.360
because this is just a side story
of They put me into this class of

706
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:55.199
ten people and it was an online
class for a month to train, you

707
00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:00.239
know, how to be a PD. What Visa our boss now out,

708
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.199
Visa was in that class. I
was in that class. So in my

709
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.039
head, I'm like, oh,
they're training me for the future. So

710
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:10.480
those meetings, I didn't have anything
to it different. That's but ironically still

711
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.800
well, I will say, I
think this is where it all fucked up

712
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.199
for me. I specifically remember the
corporate people were like, so, what

713
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:21.920
do you think about country music somewhere
else? At the time, I was

714
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.840
young. I was you know,
I think I forget how I was,

715
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:29.880
but you were younger, late thirties, So I was like, nah,

716
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.159
Like I kind of said at nonchalan
like no, it's not my thing right

717
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.519
now, not really understanding radio,
like just I mean, I'm not mad

718
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.599
at that though, Like I feel
like I would say no, right even

719
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:43.760
if I knew my job was on
the line, like no, I'm not

720
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.800
going to sell out, you know, I mean just to have a job,

721
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.440
because that's completely different. But what
if they asked you, would you

722
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.320
do pop? Would you do pop? Because that's what happened to me in

723
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.800
Bakersfield. I was like pop,
you better give me hip hop. But

724
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.440
then I was like I could do
pop, like I could do pop trees

725
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:58.599
just kind of out of them,
like well, now that I'm older,

726
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:04.320
like I actually enjoy country. But
I think that was my demise when I

727
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.360
was like nah, because they oh
they offered, not offered me, but

728
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.079
they said, what do you think
about programming country? And I was like

729
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:14.119
nah, I remember this, yes, And I think that was my demise.

730
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.440
Huh. So wonder like I can't
use you no more? So,

731
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:21.440
how how was the layoff? Do
you remember that day? Like when it

732
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.599
happened? Yeah, because me and
you got fired that same day, didn't

733
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:27.760
well, well, I don't know. I don't think it was the same

734
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.400
day unless maybe was it the same
day. I don't I actually don't remember

735
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.039
that. Yes, it had to
be. We pulled up into the parking

736
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:37.360
lot at the same time because they
said come in for a meeting. I

737
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.519
already knew what that meant. I
knew one hundred percent I was fired,

738
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.679
right, So that's why you said
come in for a meeting. I think

739
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.760
it was two PM or ten am
or it was early. Huh, it

740
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.679
was early early and I pull up
in the parking lot. No one was

741
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.079
your Yeah, Magic pulls up.
I'm like, oh shit, we both

742
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:53.519
getting fired. But then when we
got out the car, I was like

743
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:55.760
we were talking about it, like
damn, this is it, and I'm

744
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.559
like, man, you're not going
nowhere. They're not going to fire you.

745
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.960
I'm thinking, why the fuck would
they it? We got fired on

746
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.599
the same day. I'll never forget
that long ass walk up the fucking stairs

747
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:07.679
to his office and then you go
in the office. Typical ship. You

748
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:12.760
know, I've been through this a
few times already, routine fucking contract on

749
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.320
the table. He's sitting right there
like, oh, come on in.

750
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.119
So Moe was one of the first
ones to get let go, and we

751
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.559
were like you weren't in the building. You you didn't come until after time,

752
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.800
but I was getting the play by
play though, Yeah, you were

753
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:30.599
giving me the play. Yeah,
because then the Spanish station people there starting.

754
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.800
You just saw like people packing up
and I'm witnessing all this and you

755
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.559
know what, hurt my feelings a
lot, and they do this to everyone.

756
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.239
It wasn't just the MOE thing,
but it's so fucking annoying. It's

757
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.119
just when you get fired, they
have to like assist you. They have

758
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:46.800
to walk you everywhere you go and
get your stuff, like calm down,

759
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:50.679
anybody gonna get on the air and
talk shit like you know, and then

760
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.079
they have to walk all your ship
protocol, walk you to your office to

761
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.639
get all your belongings. I was
like, I didn't like that. I

762
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.880
think out of everything, I was
like, dude, if you don't get

763
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.440
off my back. And again we
got to mention this was a nationwide thing

764
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.159
and they were trying to just cut
down to a small I mean yeah,

765
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.119
smaller group and this was happening the
whole with the whole company. So yeah,

766
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:15.719
we just saw all these people like
leaving carrying boxes and I think I

767
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.800
called so many people and Gise you
might have been one of them. I

768
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.039
was like, I think I'm next. And I remember talking to Visa.

769
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:23.400
I was like, I think I'm
next, and he was like no.

770
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:27.960
I was like, I have a
feeling and I'm just walking in the hallways

771
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:32.400
and Steve catches me in the hallway
our GM and he's all magic fall me

772
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:38.000
and no out loud. I go
no, I go like that like in

773
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:42.800
the hallway, that's funny. I
go no, and he just like put

774
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.039
his head down and to just Steve
always tells the story how that was like

775
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:52.920
the like you know, he was
in the room. Yeah, yeah,

776
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:54.679
I don't want to do this,
but I've been like the whole you know,

777
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.440
because to be honest, I mean, in his defense, it wasn't

778
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.880
his choice. And we had such
a great team. Yeah, we did

779
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.239
have a good team in front of
him literally like a fan because we were

780
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.960
all friends from the beginning. Yeah
yeah, I mean we really came because

781
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.599
Carmen was here during that time too, So we were all like here at

782
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:15.360
the same time together and we had
all we had all finally had like we're

783
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.280
all full time, we're all on
the squad together. Yeah, and then

784
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:21.679
you know, remember, so we
got you're right, we got laid off

785
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.559
at the same day, right,
No, I was. I think maybe

786
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:28.440
later on I did, but I
remember calling you and I was like,

787
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.159
it happened to me too, and
you were like what And we met for

788
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:37.360
lunch and yeah, that's right.
Start talking about this. I know,

789
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.280
I remember that. That's crazy and
you would think. I mean, that

790
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:43.239
wasn't my first rodeo, but it
still cuts deep, man, like you

791
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.280
know what I mean, especially when
it's not your fault. So that was

792
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.639
your last radio gig, right,
Yeah, that's it years ago. That

793
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.519
was it. And now what are
you doing now? You're doing a great

794
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.639
thing for the community. Yeah.
Now I'm working with young adults between the

795
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.360
ages of sixteen and twenty four,
those who have been previously incarcerated. Once

796
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.880
they get out and they need that
guidance and need to get back into the

797
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.119
workforce. You know, I help
out with that. So completely different.

798
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.920
But you know, I relate to
the kids like I did when I was

799
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.599
in radio. I'm on their level. You know. They can talk to

800
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.320
me, vent to me, and
I'm still still mo you know, and

801
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:21.559
uh you know you get that,
you ever get that itch? Still I

802
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.519
do? Yeah, even knowing how
the radio business, especially when I like,

803
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.559
you listen to some other people and
you're like, I'm better than that.

804
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:31.320
I don't want to go there,
but like, yeah, you know,

805
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:38.760
I do get that right exactly.
Oh yeah, fact, yeah yeah.

806
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.800
So I mean there's always that passion, right, It's not something you

807
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:44.400
turn on and off like it's like
some real shit, you know what I

808
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:45.320
mean. That's the difference between me, I think, and a lot of

809
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.000
people. It's a real path,
like a real I had a real love

810
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.599
for it, and I still do, you know. It's just life is

811
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.599
different. And I always wonder,
like, Okay, I got fired from

812
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.480
that night show, what was a
reason? Like you know, they say

813
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.039
there's always a reason, and I
wonder, like what was the reason?

814
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.960
Maybe it was so I could be
more present with my kid, because when

815
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:07.559
I look back now, I put
radio before everything, like before friends before

816
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:12.079
family. With radio calls, I'm
there. I'm not asking anyone any questions.

817
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.199
I'm just there. You need me
for an interview, you need me

818
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:15.440
to show up to this event,
you need me to host. I am

819
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.679
there no matter what time, no
matter what day, I'm there. That's

820
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.519
just that's that's what I want to
do. And I feel like I did

821
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.880
that so much and just wasn't available
in other areas and so when radio like

822
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.800
you know, canceled for me,
I was just well, my baby,

823
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.760
like you know, so maybe maybe
that was the reason, you know,

824
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.960
I mean, I don't know.
Well you're doing great things now, thank

825
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.360
you, and yeah, life is
different, man, do you have I

826
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.760
have one last question? But do
you have anything? Jazee? No,

827
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.760
I mean one thing that I got
to say that I've always said this is

828
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.760
just like from a talent perspective,
I always felt that Moe was just wanted

829
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.920
to just naturally talented and on air
personalities that I've ever heard, like,

830
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.920
I mean across the board. It's
just she couldn't fucking be here on time,

831
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.199
Like if you could have just fixed
that, like honestly, like just

832
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.280
straight talent. Why is like one
of the best I've ever heard. But

833
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.559
with this episode, that's the reason
why she was sought after. She kept

834
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.400
getting offered, and that's why I
wanted her back because I knew her talent.

835
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.800
Yeah, I appreciate that you guys, like man, so many good

836
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.880
memories, so many good times,
and the chemistry we had was so important.

837
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.519
Yeah, it was a lot of
fun. I mean call everyone your

838
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.440
bros. No, like these are
bros. Like this is fucking like That's

839
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.079
why I tell people like my friends
are my co workers, you know what

840
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.920
I'm saying, Like literally not like, oh we work together, so we

841
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.960
just go out after for work like
no, like these are on my day

842
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.280
off, Like this is who I
hung out with and then we go to

843
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:37.719
fucking work together. Like it doesn't
get any better than that, you know.

844
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.679
I mean like we've been through some
ship, the ups the downs,

845
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.920
like you know what I'm saying.
I want to sleep together at the club,

846
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:45.719
fall asleep toget the club we were. We were out and about all

847
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.039
the time, and I literally fell
asleep at a club one night. I

848
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.119
don't know what. It was my
birthday and I think photo of it.

849
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:53.719
Yeah, that's all you need to
say. Man, we were crashed out

850
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:58.119
on the couch. I don't know
what the so many good times, man,

851
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:02.559
last question before we end the episode. If you got offered a job

852
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:07.159
to come back here to do your
own show same amount of pay as what

853
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.800
you're getting paid now your old job, at your new job that you're doing

854
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:15.000
currently, do you leave it to
come back? Fuck man? Man?

855
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:22.119
Hopefully her other job ain't listening.
I know, I don't know, to

856
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:27.039
be honest, and you say making
the same or more like possibly, it's

857
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.000
just that the thing is like,
I'm so secure with my job right now,

858
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:31.840
Like I feel so secure. Me
and my boss are great, like

859
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:37.639
I'm value you, happy, respected, like they fuck with me. They

860
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.039
know what I bring to the table, and I feel it, like I

861
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:43.079
literally feel That's why I have so
much respect for my boss and my company.

862
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.519
I do because they they respect me. Like I don't know how to

863
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.079
explain it. And if I was
to come back to radio, what I

864
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.000
feel secure not necessarily a B ninety
five thing, just a radio thing in

865
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.639
general. You're in radio, you're
not secure. I hate to say,

866
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.079
you're just not. You could be
here one day and guess what, tomorrow,

867
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.800
we're going to bring in seventeen year
old motherfucker they just graduated school and

868
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.480
we're going to replace you with her
because she's gonna be a lot cheaper.

869
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.920
And how much of a kick in
the ass is that? But that's what

870
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:09.639
the fuck it is, and that's
happened to me, and that shit's horrible

871
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.480
and it makes you bitter. You
know, the older you get, your

872
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.159
like a whatever. But that shit's
terrible and that's just the state of radio.

873
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:20.000
There's no security in it. So
that's the only reason that I would

874
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.039
say no. But if they said, hey, five year contract or whatever,

875
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:29.000
you know, yeah you go open. You got a weekend shit man

876
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:36.320
on your show side show. I
don't show why, but man, it

877
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.119
was so fun having you on this
episode. Yeah, year man, thank

878
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:42.199
you guys for having me. I
really appreciate it. Yeah, it just

879
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.079
all comes to me. You still
talk out of castle shit, you know

880
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.239
what I mean. But so man, Yeah, you're an incredible person and

881
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.760
like we said in the beginning,
you're one of our great friends, and

882
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.000
I'm glad that we are still great
friends to this day. Yeah, I

883
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:59.679
love it, y'all. Hit me
up on Instagram at malicious you got to

884
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.599
get my life ask radio plug.
There it is all until next time.

885
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.079
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