WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.599 And today we have to we say it's still money today, right, we're 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:10.439 talking the new power tariffs, not the tarret itself. The times I hear 3 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:16.399 power has increased, the cost of power has gone up, and as consumers 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.320 and as folks as spend money, we want to find out how we can 5 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:24.359 save money, how can we not get a tariff. So we're not only 6 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:27.800 going to talk about the tariffs per se. We don't want to talk about 7 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:32.240 band AVE, band B and the policy around me. We are simply trying 8 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:39.000 to say, hey, what is technology out there that can allow me to 9 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:43.079 save money for my family? So not that's in that scary like if you 10 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:48.240 use your egg conditioner for five hours, you spend a thousand night round one 11 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:52.640 thousand per night just to use your air conditioner. So it's a lot. 12 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.039 So I'm not an expert, but I know it's been good for bringing expert 13 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:03.520 here that understand how they can. That's what it is all about. So 14 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.840 it's good. And here I have a few guys that want to bring them 15 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.799 up and they're going to talk about their solutions and hopefully we can pick two 16 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:18.079 from there. Also share the flyers that they are called to action. So 17 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:21.640 if you're interested in them. After the space, you can reach back to 18 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:26.680 them and then hear what they have to offer. That's essentially what we would 19 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:32.439 like to do today. First of a follow me thank our kind sponsors who 20 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:38.799 have agreed essentially to sponsor the space for us, just to shout out to 21 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:44.280 the guys that Market Intelligence and g I use them essentially if you want to 22 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:48.680 trade in Nigeria. They give you actionable data. You know, sentiments and 23 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:53.280 ask and all that you subscribe you get that information allows you to trade more 24 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.359 informed. I also share the handle on the space as well, and so 25 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.439 you guys can just be also full. So let me start with my friends 26 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:02.439 giins. I got three of them today. I'm gonna start with my friends 27 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.560 gains. This is from Energy spelled A R N E G y R Energy. 28 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:12.039 Thanks for space. If you guys want on the mute, just on 29 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:17.319 mute and we can start the space. Thank you so much, Hid everybody, 30 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.759 thank you for having us here tonight. So my name is Joshua and 31 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:28.919 from Energy. And also i'll be having one of our class executives who is 32 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:37.479 speaking. His name is Peter and I believe that he's already I see him. 33 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:39.840 Yeah, I see him, so sending him an invite already, yes, 34 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:45.080 quested, and we'll add him. So both of you are on point. 35 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:50.800 Now, yeah, there we go. All right, so Energy, 36 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.680 welcome to the space. I mean, the folks that you didn't hear. 37 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.240 We're not power experts. We know what mega is, I don't know what 38 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.719 difference is and all that. What I want to know release how I can 39 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:05.639 save money. But I just start to just give us an intro about your 40 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.919 company. Who are you guys? How did we get to power? Let's 41 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:14.560 know? You take it off? Go ahead, all right, thank you. 42 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:23.080 I would allow okay to take it up from here. Energy is a 43 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:30.599 renewable energy company where we deal in clean energy and we we look and hope 44 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:38.240 to enhance thisbility and reliability of electricity of energy within homes and businesses. And 45 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:45.240 further on that, I would just like to hand over to the redentity from 46 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:50.120 the organization who has been prepared to take from here. Sure is all right? 47 00:03:50.199 --> 00:04:03.520 Please happy that you're muted. You can hear me. All right, 48 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:08.560 So we wait for Peter to okay, Peter has dropped off. So Peter 49 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:14.879 has dropped up. I'm gonna add him again. So let me just make 50 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:24.879 sure he's back and there he can speak. Peter, go ahead, hell, 51 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:32.839 yes, we can hear you. Go ahead, shoot everyone can Yes, 52 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:40.920 go ahead. Thank you for having us and giving us his platform to 53 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:46.600 interact. Good everyone, pleasure to be here. My name is Peter speaking 54 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:54.040 of the allergy So thank you. All right, So I mean give us 55 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.399 your journey. Really she's the company. Then moving to the power story real 56 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.519 quick, who are you guys? What do you guys do? Go ahead, 57 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:05.680 all right, thank you? So Energy Solar Limited to me because still 58 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:11.639 hear me, I can hear it's echoing a lot here, all right, 59 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:19.959 I just power show. So yes, Energy Solar Limited is an alternative, 60 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:26.360 reliable energy company. We've been around for ten years now in the market, 61 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:31.199 really coming in when the solar space was still as infancy or solar as a 62 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:35.839 solution was still as em fansy, particularly you know in this part of the 63 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:41.600 world. And over time we sort of like have played out played in different 64 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:50.120 spaces, from powering minigrants to providing alternative power sources to residentiales and offices. 65 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:59.279 So Energy today ours you know residentials from your you know apartment's be owned to 66 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:08.000 standing lowe houses as well as also providing power to SNS offices as well as 67 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:14.920 industrial complex. So that's energy to be gotcha, welcome some let'sters get into 68 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.519 it right. You've seen the power tariffs in simple and short term. They 69 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:25.439 expensive for most Nigerians we earn minimum wage. Like I said, I saw 70 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:29.600 that. Yes, this someone set to use the egg conditioner for for one 71 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.600 night, they're gonna play almost a thousand era. How can energy exist for 72 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.920 me? If I have a house in car or Legos? What can you 73 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.879 guys do to this? To my deal? That's what wants to do? 74 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:44.720 Really? All right? Great? So as as you're aware, we have 75 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:51.360 different types and the power consumption of homes defer significantly, right, So what 76 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:58.000 we have done is we have standardized as solutions to fit different patent types. 77 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:05.240 So a typical two bedroom apartments, we have a drinking are a sept that 78 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:12.279 would typically power you know a superdroom apartment before and how sold that's conservative in 79 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:16.800 your consumption? Wow? For a three bedroom for bedroom apartments, we have 80 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:21.800 you know, people using between five kilo arts to ten kilo at systems to 81 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:27.720 power their apartments. Right again, just to explain how this works, I 82 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:33.319 think Nigeria a lot of us understand generating sets and you know a simple way 83 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:41.680 to compare this would be to see that it typical generating sets that powers in 84 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:46.120 two apartments you know, will be getting you between three to five kilo apartments 85 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:53.319 of energy. So that's we have a solution that basically matches that generating sets 86 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:58.600 in terms of capacity. Wows when you sort of like skill that to you 87 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:03.839 know, your disil general to you know, those that typically our larger facilities. 88 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:09.800 You know, so you have the system which is a changing the wards 89 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:18.680 system that can sort of like our four terrrist building and and and oh he 90 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.360 dropped off. I was enjoying with Peter. If you can hear I can 91 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:35.759 hear you, Peter, Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, I can. 92 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.600 Yes, you dropped off a bit. Let's just just perfectly just poof 93 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:46.360 follow right. I have a four point five KNV generator. What is that 94 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:50.240 if I converted to like watch your say, like a four point five what 95 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:56.600 what would that be if I converted? Thank you? So if five that 96 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:03.679 would convert I give you and we currently have you know, variations of that 97 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:09.759 give you system in our you know products. Now, what the major different 98 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:15.240 that we typically have with our products is the amount of battery storage that we 99 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:20.000 layer on top of the system. And again for people who are not very 100 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.279 familiar with the solar, what typically have is you have parts on your roof 101 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:31.039 that basically provides energy from the sun, right, and when you generate this 102 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.519 energy, it's typically powers the load that is put on in your house at 103 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:41.519 the time when that TV is generating energy from the sun, and then whatever 104 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:46.759 excess power you're generating that you're not consuming can destroyed in the battery from nights 105 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:52.120 consumption. Right. So typically, yes, what gives you an even better 106 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:58.039 that matches the size of this generating capacity that you mentioned. So the closest 107 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.279 in our product book to what you have mentioned or be a five k inverter. 108 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.159 Now that means that in terms of the loads that you're able to put 109 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.600 on that generator set, you will be able to replicate the same amount of 110 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.960 load on a five kV In fact, Now, what do the panels do 111 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.960 for you, which is to a unit of kilwards our peak, they basically 112 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.919 generate energy. So you will have as many panels as possible and build up 113 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.120 as much generation from this sun as possible. There's no full world, that's 114 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:39.159 no matter how much scale up your panels in the roof. The only loads 115 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.879 your house can power as a time is to the capacity of your inverter. 116 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:50.480 You compre sise to side with your generator set is the invert capacity. Okay, 117 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.399 okay, I got that point. If we are to go away from 118 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.679 this call with anything your generator set in terms of size, you can match 119 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.000 that in capacity. What you time means if you can put on your or 120 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.720 not okay, you can put on your fish, freezer and butter and the 121 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:16.039 microwave. It's basically depended on the size of your So quick questions okay, 122 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.240 quick uick questions? Can can be panels? Generate power? If there's no 123 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.840 song light, like there's no sun, there's just light, still generate power. 124 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.000 There's no sun, but there's power, but there's just lights. Can 125 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:37.159 you still generate electricity there's no song light, it's like the cloud. Can 126 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:43.919 you generate power? Yeah? So the the efficiency will be very very low, 127 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.840 right, that's the reality of right. So in setive, for example, 128 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:54.159 if anyone the legal in time, the generation will be very very low. 129 00:11:54.639 --> 00:12:01.279 However, the you have the option of always having sufficiency to ensure that 130 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:07.159 whilst you're consuming, you could still have sufficient to store your battery. And 131 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.960 the beauty of systems that are sophisticated is the visibility that you're able to get. 132 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.919 So typically, when I had the generator maybe fifteen years back, you 133 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:22.120 know, I could never see, you know, data on the generator real 134 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.879 tipe. I just know that when before well finishes in the generator and the 135 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:30.679 top of right at best maybe I could see the gauge of the well, 136 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.360 you know. But it is the beauty of it is that you can monitor 137 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:41.679 your consumption. You can monitor your generation, and you can monitor your bors 138 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.519 how far your battery has charged. And then also that can also give you 139 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:52.120 clear ideas on how much battery life your battery has in terms of consumption as 140 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.159 the second load you're currently priory in your house. So what that means is 141 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:01.559 that the same way we use our iPhones android phones, where we look at 142 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.840 our battery and we know that, okay, we have sixty percent of charge 143 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:11.320 on our batteries and this will practice suffice to go without charge for the next 144 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:16.159 six hours because we understand the usage. Similarly, for the solar systems that 145 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.919 we have in the markets to do, which are quite sophisticated, you're able 146 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:26.039 to actually monitor real time. You know what happens when you reduce your consumption 147 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.840 and you see how many more hours you're able to consume for And then you 148 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:33.960 see that as you also increase your consumption, perhaps you turn on one easier 149 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:39.399 saces, it would also reduce the amount of hours you would be able to 150 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.679 keep the system on fold. So those are some of the things that constomers 151 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:50.080 tend to benefit and how we also become more in expeficient because they have data 152 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:52.960 to guide them. Okay, so let's get some boats of this. Right, 153 00:13:54.559 --> 00:14:00.960 the new band a has increased the power cost of If how much is 154 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.720 this inverta? I would save me money if I had to put a five 155 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:09.399 kV inverta all in and I did, whatever, how much do they cost 156 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:16.279 me? How do they cost me this whole? So in five kV invertera? 157 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.759 And again it's important to know that the invert does not work in isolation. 158 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.200 Right, so you probably need to have a full installation done but an 159 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:30.000 inverter. If I give you the price, it may not be just getting 160 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.559 this inverter and your work. So I just got to put that clarification. 161 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.399 But if you want to know the price, again, it ranges depending on 162 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:43.399 the substication of the inverter and the several products in the market. Energy does 163 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:50.559 not sell an invert isolation typically sell you know, a fully integrated systems that 164 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:58.399 comprise of panels in better and batteries. Right in some exceptional cases we could 165 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:03.440 we could decide that because of the building type, or just both inverta and 166 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.440 a battery solution, which means it's a storage solution. But you're not generating 167 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:13.559 energy, so you're probably storing power from your energy sources so that you can 168 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.639 when you're you don't have power from other sources, you can utilize what your 169 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:22.679 story batteries question. Yeah, I'm just going to get the cost. Like 170 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:24.840 if I come to your office, I want to buy a five case the 171 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:33.759 whole package, the solar panel of to just go how so what we have 172 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.559 done and I would I would ask you a question, but to give you 173 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:43.000 a sense of how we're thinking about the market opportunity for customers. We have 174 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:48.080 ensured that first thing is we mentioned that the life span of the insplution that 175 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:52.519 we bring to the market is long, so that customers get to put it's 176 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:58.279 over a long period of time and can fix their energy costs for a very 177 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.919 long period of time. What we saved it inflation is that you know, 178 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.840 power keeps power. Conscripturising is costly prising, but it's so that the real 179 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:11.440 beauty of it is that when you make the investments today, the maintenance fee 180 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.320 is very minute, almost insignificance. You can enjoy it for as many as 181 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:19.039 ten years. So what we have done is that we have two product types. 182 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:23.000 We have the product type that on both product types we can see you 183 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:26.919 that you would enjoy these assets for a very long period of time. We 184 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:33.159 have one way we give you a five year warranty and we have another product 185 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.799 where we give you a ten year warranty. What that means is that any 186 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:41.960 product video would be completely managed by the company. As you would imagine, 187 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:48.600 the price is rate depending on the length of guarantee that we're able to provide. 188 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:52.440 So what we've done is that we've been sensitive to the markets and ensure 189 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:59.000 that our pricing. You know, we give different options and variations to customers 190 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:03.160 for utilities. So even for five years, then we have three products categories. 191 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.799 We have a products that you know you will get spar typically around four 192 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.440 point six million, and we have another product at nine million, and we 193 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.720 have another product at teteen million. All of these different products is just miss 194 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:22.160 the customers at different entry points. And what we also don't make it easy 195 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:27.079 for customers access is that we have partners with several commercial banks where they're able 196 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:36.359 to give competitive interest rates to allow customers pay over one year or three year 197 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:38.880 period. So even though it has the prices it's from like you know, 198 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:44.160 it's in the millions, but they are customers today who are been fitting from 199 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:48.400 our partnership with the banks that allow them pay you know, between one hundred 200 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.920 and fifty thousand a month to three hundred thousand and write a month over a 201 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:57.519 period of time. They're able to pay a completely commut full ownership of those 202 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:03.079 assets. Of course, the require just to be clear, right, So 203 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.359 what's the the four point five is the four point five point nine want? 204 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.799 What is it? Like? The core difference is they warrantee yeah, yeah, 205 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.160 very good points, sir. So the difference between the cheaper option is 206 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:22.599 one of the warrants is right, so on on the on the cheapest option 207 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:29.519 we have the warranties are shorter. Also in terms of the look and feel 208 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.039 of the products, the the the look of the products, right, the 209 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.519 nine million products, you can put it in your sitting room and it would 210 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:42.240 be there. It looks very presentable. Right with the with the cheaper option, 211 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:47.000 it's you know, it's it's a discretion. Now that would I wouldn't 212 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:52.839 suggest people put that in there in the living room. The product it looks 213 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:57.160 different. But also in terms of the length of time that we also able 214 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:02.839 to support you and give you a full warranty of the products. It tends 215 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.279 to be shut and so the warranty, the in esthetics more or less determined. 216 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.079 This just costing more less different, Okay, And then you said, 217 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:12.920 so it's going to be the cost is give us take about four and nine. 218 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:18.160 You have banks that are going to step in and fun till name those 219 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.359 banks in case A take notes in them. Yeah, great, it's great. 220 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.240 So today we work with four banks, and we're signing more partnerships with 221 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:32.720 other commercial banks. So today we work with s C and D Access Banks, 222 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:37.519 Selling Bank and ambid Bank. So if you have correct account you currently 223 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.880 are an account that we lose banks, you can go through your account office 224 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.079 or Conto Energy and we would connect it to the right in those banks to 225 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:49.880 help you fully set up. So typically the processes that you get an invoice 226 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:53.880 from us once you accepted the price of that sking voice, but would connect 227 00:19:53.920 --> 00:20:00.559 it to the bank to go and get financing. The banks stores would come 228 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.960 install the system for the customer's consumer finance. Okay, all right, So 229 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.319 gotn't the first question, which is the cost of Nigeria. So the second 230 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.720 question is that if I inst four point five or nine million, am I 231 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:18.920 saving money? It is a business new band increase a saving money? Yes? 232 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:25.119 So I think it's it's a just yes, right. And the reason 233 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:30.680 is that we also do a computation of the levelized cost of electricity today, 234 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:37.000 right, and we know what the levelized cost of our solution is, so 235 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:44.799 we can compare our pricing our through the pricing of the grid and today in 236 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:48.759 the solar space, we call it is great parity. Right. We will 237 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.720 say that the pricing based on the bistens increase in the great price. We 238 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:57.440 we have seen that our solution is as great parity. Now to explain the 239 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:03.920 constant of great parity. Basic it means that when your alternity source of energy, 240 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:08.319 typically renewables, comes to the same price of the grid or even shaper 241 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:12.680 and today we can tell you that you know, side by side, very 242 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:18.519 objective independent and that it shows that our pricing of our solution is now below 243 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:23.160 the price of the bad ay. And one thing customers need to also understand 244 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:29.599 is that one of the major drivers of costal solar to go upward is dollar. 245 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.839 Right, So because a lot of the pricing of the components are index 246 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:41.200 to the dollar or source off show if we have further evaluations in the in 247 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.519 the future its solar, the price of the solar go indeed. Then we 248 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:51.880 had this steep jump to about one thousand cities and engine exchange its our prices 249 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:55.880 were had. But one thing we did as a pump thing was that immediately 250 00:21:55.920 --> 00:22:00.799 we saw that there was more stability with effects where able to crash our prices 251 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:06.240 downwards again just to make sure that the customers can access these reducts. But 252 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:10.079 one thing customers need to be mindful of is that there is that relationship. 253 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:15.200 So today the entry appoint is ship and then if the Nira slides again to 254 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.720 the dollar, which we don't hope for, the price of solar would go 255 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:23.559 up again. So now maybe a very good time for customers to take advantage 256 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:26.640 of it. And the beauty of it is that once you've made that investment, 257 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:32.640 fix your power costs. So if you're coming and you're like, you 258 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:36.799 know what hour on the or your solar solution, depending on the solution it 259 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:41.000 gets is stop two hundred. We can tell you that if you completely go 260 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:45.799 up great today at that price if the data, if goes up, your 261 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.200 pricing doesn't change. If goes up, your pricing doesn't change because you're basically 262 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:53.279 fixed your investments in power. And once we've seen with a lot of our 263 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:57.960 customers well use energy for the last five to seven years, a lot of 264 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:02.319 them are coming back to us say upgrade me. I want to go completely 265 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:07.519 upgrade. And what that means is that you are your independent provider, right, 266 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.119 you independent power. You know your facility, your home, your businesses 267 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.920 right. And we've seen a lot of offices also take on this opportunity to 268 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.279 say, you know what, I want to run my cyber cafe, my 269 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:23.000 small kobs completely off grid. Right. So those are the opportunities that I 270 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:29.680 think the customers can benefit. And indeed the present is cheaper for band a 271 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:34.960 A. If I was on the national grade and I was on your solution, 272 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:42.759 yours is cheaper for me today, it's cheaper, right, But I 273 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.039 also wanted to establish that because of the price point of the door that today, 274 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:52.440 that's why we're able to achieve that. So if customers take advantage of 275 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:57.400 the dollar rates today becoming cheaper. But this thing, the product is also 276 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:03.200 index to the dollars. So sometimes if the dollar, if the dollar that 277 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.519 price in my school, again, I just talked to put that out there. 278 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:10.519 And also I think everyone should be by fool that this direction. You 279 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:15.400 know, over time all all the bands would have cost relative tariffs. So 280 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.880 now it's still the right time for people in bad b which would be next 281 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:23.200 to it, you know, sort of switch to a more sustainable, predictable 282 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.960 costal power. So I had to I had to just say something now that 283 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:33.319 that thebout the dollar price is lower, it's an opportunity for go to invest 284 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:38.880 at the utant called lower dollar price because the color goes back up the price. 285 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:47.680 Traders and the general absolutely that's directly all right. So I think I 286 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:52.599 think the bulk of what word to hear from you, and if you guys 287 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:56.599 want if you don't mind, if you want to stay hand see let me 288 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.880 guys, I have never had questions to ask you can access if you can, 289 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.480 you can come back to you. I have two other guys that I 290 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.599 also like to speak. So if you're hanging there, I'll take a few 291 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:11.039 questions. I'll come back to my folk and then we'll see what mister stone, 292 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:14.359 mister stone diamond, how are you? Do you have a question? 293 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:23.559 Uh? How are you going? Can you could go ahead the question? 294 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:51.680 Sir? What's the question? Say? All right? Actually very very very 295 00:25:52.640 --> 00:26:15.720 also want those really really everything now everyone? And all right, I got 296 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:25.279 you, good point. Let's get my journey notative ques, please go ahead 297 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:40.960 really quick. Okay, watching the works, it's just like the wors. 298 00:26:42.119 --> 00:27:00.119 But there is this what's be true? Thick maybe my last probably so now 299 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:11.119 when three kill, that is only the most I think the power, but 300 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.640 it has not played a wrong. That's all last and how long it will 301 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:22.160 last depend on what we call the battery. The numbers have the size of 302 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:32.279 batteries and all the energy density energet kill our guys. You were inscribed by 303 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:40.559 our power forward to the companies. So what I want to ask is I 304 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:48.240 want to know by this but this killer was our what capacity is seltenets? 305 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:56.119 Do power? What's and again how much it is we're head of that us 306 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:11.160 is easy deep side legs. But let us batteries and the last long the 307 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:30.279 number of years last before you use that one? What are you going to 308 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:37.160 start from investments? Okay, let's let's let your man. Let lets you 309 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:42.920 man say okay, tell him so let him ask the question about one you 310 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.640 I did you talk about how long the butches would last? Number two? 311 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.960 I had to talk about worst type of batteries. You're talking about the break 312 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.680 even point? If I invest four or five for nine million, when do 313 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.400 I break even? So let me let me get let me get in to 314 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.759 answer people great questions. I mean number one like you said, how what 315 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.039 kind of battery when you're working for go ahead? And what can I put 316 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.799 on that? Can I put an air conditioner on this set up? You 317 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:15.839 have and have an air conditioner? Great? So thank you, thanks, 318 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.000 thanks for the big question, very very respectful. Again, I think that 319 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.720 the way I hear the first and second question is very similar. So the 320 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:29.680 answer is that today are solutions we use little your I own batteries. Right, 321 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:34.599 this is the latest battery technology and whatsider the one that keives the longest 322 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.640 livespan, like you rightly said, it's the same batteries that we have in 323 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:44.519 our iPhones and the same batteries you have in an electric vehicle. Right. 324 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.119 The beauty of the litium batteries is that it's has you can get two hundred 325 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.440 percent discharge from your batteries, as against the aspect batteries where you can only 326 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.519 get fifty percent discharge. What that means basically is that you can use the 327 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.920 battery from full charge to zero presents, just same way our food batteries work. 328 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.799 Also, another beautiful thing about this is that you know, unlike the 329 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.480 letters batteries that have you know, total for your lives, these batteries can 330 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.480 save you for longer than ten years. And this is also why we're able 331 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:22.079 to give you product assurance for five ten years. And this is largely because 332 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.480 of the type. So we should and we don't just do that with our 333 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.119 batteries. We also use you know, don't see you know panels that can 334 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.960 give you to fight your lifespan and they will also you know, bring give 335 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.880 you a won invertters which we also build. Those same warrants is to come 336 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:45.400 in terms of the playback period and your investments. I think it's largely depends 337 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.880 on what you're comparing this tape, right, So if you take the great 338 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.839 price point today of the party right, the pay back period tends to be 339 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.920 with sugar right, we're looking at depending on your consumption, that could people 340 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:06.000 between two years two to three years you're getting full paper period and for the 341 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.960 bands, for those that are still on the old band which is bad before 342 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.680 pricing, paid period tends to be between five to six years, where you 343 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.359 would definitely have you know, saved more money than the investments that you have 344 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.880 put in. But also let's be mindful that this is assuming that you were 345 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.799 consuming twenty four hour supply from the greed, which we all know that even 346 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:33.000 on the band ad today they're not guaranteeing you twenty four hours. So when 347 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.720 you're data pricing you, it starts a fatter in the fact that you know, 348 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:44.000 it's not like people use only Great independently in Nigeria today most people are 349 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:49.400 doing patrol generators and grid some people are doing diesel generators are great. So 350 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.799 depending on the current power bill, the payda period tends to be a lot 351 00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.799 shorter depending on how high your part is. So a goold way to look 352 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:06.599 at it is applates cost of having twenty four hours power in your house today 353 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:12.400 from alternative sources means perhaps you're getting up to ten hours from the gud right, 354 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.960 and you know how much your bill comes to at the end of the 355 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.480 month. What that means is that the balance hours that you need to run 356 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.880 your office or household. Let's see the balance hours is indeed fourteen hours, 357 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.200 and you power your house it's diesel or with patrol for the balance forteen hours. 358 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:35.240 When you take that cost and multiplied by the number of these months, 359 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.200 right, you can use that to divide the cost of the solution your buying. 360 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:45.920 That will determine your paper period, so that in a sense you can 361 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.839 say that your payper period could be shorter than a year if you're going off 362 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:55.160 grid. Propically interesting, Yeah, so you answered the battery type you pay 363 00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.440 back type. I think you've answered this question. Okay, let's hang on, 364 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.440 let me let me hoping the differense track. Peter, I want to 365 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.359 bring together that is just doing you guys. Are you guys are new quotes 366 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:10.839 and quote pet me YouTube you don't mind? Just okay, So, Peter, 367 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.519 you guys are quote unquote big company more or less mimusing that word. 368 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.160 I want to bring a guy that is doing this on his own, maybe 369 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.640 he has a smaller footprint. Also to give us his own perspective to start 370 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:27.200 focus listening. Also get a second perspective, so and energy types of information 371 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.200 I want you guys, please hang on. I'm not bringing promise promise, 372 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.759 ok one he sent me. And again, guys, what I do today 373 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.519 is to give information out on where you can go and get various types of 374 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.960 options you can connect to create. You can do the alternatives and all that. 375 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.240 If you're an alternative power provider. As long as you can put on 376 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.559 your flyer or make a promise that you'll give a discount, or you can 377 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:58.799 show me savings and you send me your material, I will retoot it bo 378 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.799 cost to you and to me. Any guys sent me something for the weekend 379 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:07.159 about a competition, you do a video and you need an inverta, I 380 00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:13.360 will after the show if you if you have an alternative to high grade prices, 381 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:15.840 were you want to offer a discount and you want me to share an 382 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.920 information set to my DM, I will share on your behalf. Don't bring 383 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.599 in promise promise and if you can hear me you can on muse, I'll 384 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:29.679 just go and do a brief introduction and then we'll just get your own perspective 385 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.360 on what you are off into the market society. So promise, can you 386 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:39.920 amuse please? Yeah, okay, probably introduce yourself and all that. So 387 00:34:43.960 --> 00:35:00.840 for politics or like a very big or three business and the other type of 388 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:07.480 bucture we are. So what I noticed in this is that most actually do 389 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:13.800 what you want. They're not like energy efficients, you tend to waste sometimes, 390 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:20.519 but like let's say like staring from the preventing, like let's say five 391 00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.199 I was on a rap and really for like two months or one month and 392 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.559 am for like one week. So it was verified that the one that isn't 393 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:37.039 the five thousand four for one week. It's wings around I'm doing. You 394 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:43.039 know, what is good to be reliting is one money? You need good 395 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:47.719 stuff, so you're not like an efficient to go and we tend to waste 396 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.480 this And actually because this one it's from the because it is free, what 397 00:35:52.719 --> 00:36:00.320 are you doing for it? Open? You know alternative now before it's a 398 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:07.800 system. Clients, we want to know what I want to consumed, so 399 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.360 many to do work to consume because we are looking it goes go to the 400 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:16.239 house. This house like it too. Let's give you some five kiving into 401 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.800 CONFI system at the end two power the house we got the attend to have 402 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:29.719 modudes you ten have models system at shut down. So what we do won't 403 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.920 we go to the customer house? We do a better energy audits. What 404 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:36.519 I want trying to singing? So once together the energy or in the world 405 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:42.079 I wanted not sizing better to the party size and a number of family work. 406 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:46.360 Now said we have a back. We have the leads me and we 407 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:52.440 are going backs now the religion that is more expensive than the letters it because 408 00:36:52.480 --> 00:37:00.639 we don't go long lives. Family don't let char thank you as around then 409 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:10.920 five years depending on your usage. Okay, tell me asking directly right those 410 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.159 director. So if again, if I came to you have a whatever flat 411 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.199 or house, I just want to have power in my house. You know, 412 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.000 I know the free jency all those things. But I have a four 413 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:27.679 point five key generator. I'm on band A, so I used four point 414 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.559 five among band A. I have an usual fridge. Acy what what what 415 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.880 what would you? What be your package? What would it cost me? 416 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.239 And what will be your advice? To me just so that folks can get 417 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:44.360 that from you and and all that. Yes, this system so it's going 418 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:53.760 to be fives or let us. So now this has different on it. 419 00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:07.960 If five system which is that is going to go for some one point five 420 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:15.400 So now it's constibility, it's fat five hund you need too much. The 421 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:19.880 diver is an ability, but that's not as controller. There's any better judge. 422 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:28.199 Controler needs the number of so in five flower systems superwer in my business 423 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:32.239 classes now and the size if you are going but I should really do it 424 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:38.039 more than you do into fifty percent we save bring to the love longer lives. 425 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:43.760 Found that I got that mostly mostly what is the damage? You don't 426 00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:50.400 get them twenty to overload the system then starts shotting and sometimes it gets So 427 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.840 this is the cast stay for up to five to ten, playing for months. 428 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:59.840 So what do you if I have a four point five KP? What 429 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:06.960 with if I load in better to five kep without overlook Now this is over. 430 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.119 Let's say if five water cantiage, let's say in that type one, 431 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:22.039 I see take your CV take the stuff now like five pew words. Then 432 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:28.679 for eventual you're not annound somebody command decide to own all the fleish on to 433 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.960 what is easy as unless you're fivecy or decide because of another efficiency expance to 434 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.639 wrun one easy at the time. So when you lib in put on foes 435 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.960 as first, put on about the lighting, put on the TV without you 436 00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:49.719 are using an internity which is so so you really know what is a sense 437 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:54.400 overlo can show them so mostly sure that this is not used to desire like 438 00:39:54.519 --> 00:40:00.400 that, sure that system put it on trying to pose the system on so 439 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.960 I know what I can get, Moms, I won't go on game losing 440 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:15.000 where more room that can't take fire like the worst to go. Gotcha? 441 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.639 So just the last question, last question from this right, So if I 442 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.800 had to get my package from you, send the package from energy. We're 443 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.239 not competing, we're not trying to compare. Say if I were to get 444 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.000 a package from you, you know, like I said, sol annals inverta 445 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.800 control and all that. What would that set you back on? And how 446 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.039 do you also finance? They do a lot of working with the banks for 447 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.320 for counting my credit. How do you finance your guys? Do you guys 448 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:44.719 have to pay you? Go ahead and go ahead, okay, I with 449 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:57.920 them. People show jerdey financing partner blessing for instance a client, so what 450 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.800 you do pay thy looking we have the claimed the most of a this season 451 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.320 will come up me. So we have to be thirty percent of France. 452 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.760 After we've done the back check checking localisto socurse, I know that legibly for 453 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.159 the season. So the give or your feedback, yes this was my is 454 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:21.719 a legible now. It cost now is eighty percent and the interest will be 455 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:25.760 completed on the balance after the episode of it. That is lessening. This 456 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.559 is only today and will reticentially thirty thousand. It's left with seventy thousand. 457 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:37.400 Now the interests to be computed only seventy thousand. Most food on two thousand 458 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.719 willet wish to give out because it's eighty ten percent of this, so we 459 00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:46.599 are left with twenty percent usually seventy thousand error now so we have for mostly 460 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:52.960 for companies, it's also one year. The finance is also one year. 461 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:58.000 Also that's the individual it's for three more. But when we check for predic 462 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.599 schools, obviously that when we play is strong. That's called that one. 463 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:08.760 Depending on the size le system guessing, so one the system of different one 464 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.920 the SY system that you so also the sizing of s also going to play. 465 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.480 Okay, So but what would the cost if you could, like you 466 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:28.159 want to be your own like appront cost for the system if you could okay, 467 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:32.440 okay, the interest that will become is between it's only between five to 468 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:42.360 fifty cents after after you put your initial sense. So what was the total 469 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.679 cost for your system the whole thing? And I don't know if I got 470 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:50.159 that part you mentioned the total cost? Okay, P five in the work 471 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.840 system it was for seven or five and also the war system. That are 472 00:42:54.960 --> 00:43:01.280 some that I did into analysis between won't give you system and the least, 473 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:07.880 which is that the basic guy doesn't lighting. I'm fine, so those ones 474 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:13.480 probably won't give you sist from one give you syslos and I want to go 475 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.719 to competing lose range. So the cha plays. This is the one global 476 00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:25.440 system goes for let me check my this that goes for thousand. It comes 477 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:32.079 with let us too. The one't give you system focuses of one two work 478 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:39.119 conners, then twenty hours with the one giving So that is us for this 479 00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:45.880 smaller package. K. That's how much problems? How much is that? 480 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:53.039 Yes? That's for it. Yes, it's you see okay, God, 481 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.039 that's what the look OKAYLST one okay, and the west one is one TV 482 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:06.000 what what what about the the five will be the five five? Okay, 483 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.960 that's what the that's what I already get. I want to get that other 484 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:14.599 spectrum of the market, I mean, energy has given you that does get 485 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:17.960 the spectral pricing as it were. So promise, Thank you so much. 486 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.400 I'm mister Peter. Let me have you back in real quick before I go 487 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:28.239 back to my last my last guest, is there any other solution apart from 488 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:32.840 solar? Like everyone I've talked to online and d M is mostly solar and 489 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.079 all that. What about wind? What about maybe bio fuels? What about 490 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.480 maintained? Is the anything that we can do illegal for instance? Or this 491 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:51.000 is apart from solar? Peter, I know if you heard my question. 492 00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.480 Did you have my question? Yeah? I think I got, I got. 493 00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:59.920 I was just saying, is that is there any other optional apart from 494 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.159 solar? Of course, of course I hear you. I heard you tek 495 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:08.719 you so I think today as we all awhere, there's several other renewable sources 496 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:15.000 of energy, right which you have carefully listed. However, the one that 497 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:21.400 is commercially problem to be is solar and this is not just from Nigeria. 498 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.960 This is for most imagine margins where we know that are skill solar words and 499 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.159 indeed, so I can actually meet the energy demand of the world. And 500 00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:36.960 that's like data drilling and proven. So once we we would see with other 501 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:43.239 renewable sources, that's over time, as innovation continues to improve, some of 502 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:49.119 these other solutions become more commercially viable. And I commercially viable, I mean 503 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:54.519 that compared to the other prices the other energy sources, that the price would 504 00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:00.679 now be comparable, right, and by comparable in that like the unique costs 505 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:07.639 of providing the same amount of energy would be in relative terms similar. What 506 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:15.400 we find is that with most of these because again scale hasn't happened, that's 507 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.000 a lot of players, you know, you know, building these components, 508 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:23.000 you know, in the mass market. So most of these prices tend to 509 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:27.599 be more expensive. And what we find is that people who are currently using 510 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:32.320 systems either use it for you know, aesthetic benefits or also just the sort 511 00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.519 of like proof of concepts. Most of the of these projects tend to be 512 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.679 more proof of concepts to show that you know, they're exploring these new opportunities 513 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.000 or new areas of power, but they are not as you know scale or 514 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:53.119 market operations today. Interesting now in terms of alternatives, I think one major 515 00:46:53.239 --> 00:47:00.760 ortality which is more utilized for mass housing projects like bigger states as well as 516 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:08.079 commercial is CG. So that's thet So that's another opportunity that's several very large 517 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:15.960 you know sps today and other parts of Nigeria use as well as industries right 518 00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:22.559 connected to the pipelines. Gotcha. So I'm gonna really come back to the 519 00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:29.440 manufacturing of the invitas and solars. I don't have another topic on that because 520 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:30.559 we talk about the commercials the cos. You want to say, now, 521 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:35.239 if you're not the pricing happens, the promise is surprising. But I want 522 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:38.480 to talk about the manufacturing that that side of the of the market now. 523 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:42.239 So Peter, I'm gonna come back to you, But let me get mister 524 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:49.039 Kaleb in here. I think he has the founder of a score. So 525 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:53.480 let's talk now about the manufacturing because, like Peter said, these things are 526 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:59.360 priced in dollars. So if we're able to keep the dollar ate low to 527 00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.559 have no con drown over or if we're able to manufacture locally, this might 528 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.320 be a should we say, loophole to keep this price lower. So calib 529 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:12.719 and if you're online, I mean you're here if you can commute quick intro 530 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:22.920 and that it can come to you, mister calib Yeah absolutely I can, 531 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:28.079 sir, Please go ahead, sir, I can. Awesome. I'm sorry 532 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:39.079 for the ballground. So yeah, so my name is actually generally for the 533 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:53.039 manufacturer, I mean businesses. So yeah, we just very very I don't 534 00:48:53.039 --> 00:49:07.840 really know how how in manufactric now, uh, the system is manufacturing virus 535 00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:21.559 specifically side so okay, So so so let let's go there. Just let's 536 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.239 just stick to yours. Right, So let's just let's go So you said 537 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:29.280 indigenous manufacture one hundred percent. So are you saying you make everything locally? 538 00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:34.000 Departures and made in Nigeria from you? Everything local? Yeah? I said? 539 00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:54.880 Okay, but then ours around all in Nigeria. Yes, where's your 540 00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:07.920 where's your factory? Wait? Where do you guys manufactures? Understand we don't 541 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:22.199 mean then we do manufacturing? Gotcha? Wait? Where is your factor? 542 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:38.559 Asks? Interesting? Okay, So let's so let's just find up from you, 543 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.880 right, do you know how much an important but will cost and how 544 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:47.280 much yours will cost? What's the price difference between if I bring it in 545 00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:58.639 and if you make it here? Just to give you a context and information, 546 00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:08.280 so different the different opportunities. Yeah, price, so that would say 547 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:30.559 the same that so so it's a uh you can find c see around two 548 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:52.559 kinds of six course you sail sing a three point so that's that's so is 549 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:57.920 that you like okay, you important the compass and you amble in Nigeria and 550 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:04.000 in Peter as well. So the course to calm down okay, well actually 551 00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:12.639 just course down farewell, this is the fact be as yet those complaints and 552 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:21.679 do those manufacturing and sam quality by ourselves. So yeah, so the driver 553 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:27.920 of the cost what in terms of course and everyone a company at listeners and 554 00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.760 this is going to be happy mind to We've been working on listening to figure 555 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:37.320 out the RESU bring this barrier now. Theselves are very expensive. But what 556 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:45.559 was recently they have begot mine informational museum from nasal I as one of my 557 00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:51.639 famids and want to be a bunty plants. I would be doing this the 558 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:58.800 party sales engineer, I don't the first ever. Uh, but manufacturing plants 559 00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:04.840 being in this interesting and what's the name again? Just so I don't go 560 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.119 to the finance this topic, but I only hit you guys on the finance 561 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.840 particular way reading capital you're gonna do a public of because very interesting to me 562 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.440 that you want to manufacture batteries. There's a huge demand for that. That 563 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:20.320 tales means a lot of product that would need lots of funding. But I 564 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:22.239 don't to go finance yet. I want really talk to you guys about the 565 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.519 about the funding. So I've had to speak let me get it Peter, 566 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.719 It's Peter. My question for you guys, guys, what again, are 567 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.079 you guys really back great shot for batteries because that seemed to be the she 568 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:42.920 said the two points right, the batteries, yea great point. So I 569 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.880 first I want to, you know, say, well, don't you guys 570 00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:53.199 are doing something incredibly import for our country. It's just trying the fact that 571 00:53:53.280 --> 00:54:01.800 you guys are taking is actually comment you guys all written for you. Just 572 00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:13.480 speak to other players like killing very very much to speak to other local companies 573 00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:21.679 to do shout out. There's another covering called manufactures Panels looking and has started 574 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:27.079 to also buy panels locally from there, just taking to sort of like support 575 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:32.320 for local production. So obviously we need TORTI and also monitor his purpose. 576 00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:37.519 So gonna, how did they make that? Where is it? What? 577 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:46.519 I didn't the free Trade They have some good supporters. We have similar investors 578 00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:52.159 to them, so we obviously have you know, some level of relationship. 579 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:58.599 So yes, they are located lakes in the Free Trade and they have quite 580 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:04.480 massive skill plants is very massive, and they also worked on the right accreditation 581 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.000 to sort of like ensure that in terms of standardization of their products, you 582 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:13.079 know, it can compete at at global scale, which is why we hope 583 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.800 that our local manufacturing can get to. In terms of our business today, 584 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:23.679 our strategic focus is you know, assembling the Solis linearing our own I device 585 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:30.280 on top of it. So we have our management system and a remote monetary 586 00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:36.599 functionality which is developed locally by us, and we assemble our systems and tickets 587 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.559 and markets, so we are more you know, fully integrated to you know, 588 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:46.519 provide the systems locally, also ensure that it gets to the end user, 589 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:52.360 and also provide support to the end user in terms of backward integration. 590 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.079 Maybe that's someday we can look at the future as our market gets more right 591 00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:00.920 from manufacturing. I think that's over time, hope that Nigeria will get a 592 00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:07.079 lot of base rights that would support support local manufacturing and those areas that would 593 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.199 be explored in the future. But today we're fully integrated. You know, 594 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:19.039 we provide this OLM support today in Nigeria by assembling these components that are mostly 595 00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:23.679 source of show and to the extent that we can continuously increase the local content 596 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:29.880 in our system. That's something that we're really really striving for and we're working 597 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:35.119 there always following the market systecy when is available locally so that we can swap 598 00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.280 out the dollar spent on the product so ensure that we can sort of like 599 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:44.559 make it more available and as sourceable accessible to the customers. I don want 600 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:50.320 benefit that you know obviously comes from also have local production is that the lead 601 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.840 time to get in all the inventory we need in our factory is much shutter, 602 00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:59.559 right, which means that we are more hampt efficient. So it's very 603 00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:04.159 very good for the market and we're hoping that more look out manufacturers able to 604 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.800 you know, expand their operations to deliver the batteries and the right commity, 605 00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:13.599 in fact the right commities and also the panels. And we also hope that 606 00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:17.519 you know the market and the government doesn't pretend to support this company to try 607 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:22.639 and be around the launch. Very interesting because I was when you were seeing 608 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:28.480 legals and I remember that I did. The paper was on solar and basically 609 00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.599 this the solar panels, the silker sand, and I know Catsina and Car 610 00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:43.000 Dinner had this large silker sand deposits. There's actually a solar manufacturing company in 611 00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:45.079 a Bujer. I'm not sure if it's off the government. I think the 612 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:51.039 government set it up and then I was sourced to a private company to run. 613 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:55.599 It's in a Bua and they were making super panels using the silker from 614 00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:00.199 Catsina and a Buda. I'm not sure where the company is. Do you 615 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:05.239 do you know anything about that? Do you have no Peter about that before? 616 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:12.239 But we're happy to do. Yeah, I'm looking for that. I 617 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:17.679 know I wrote about that I would get this name for your sending to you. 618 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:22.039 Yeah, they were, Yeah, I'll care for you. I mean, 619 00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:28.599 let's just go back to what we're killer for, Killer for for Peter 620 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:30.239 and also for the Peter, thanks for the shot of the guys making the 621 00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:37.239 solar solar here. So if we are I hear you say the dollar So 622 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.320 what I hear you say that if you guys can get the cells, the 623 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:47.960 power sols locally cheaper that way important or were subsidizing the impost, then we 624 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:53.480 could release scale up the use of solar panels, solar inverters in cities like 625 00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:59.559 Legos, even in the rural areas. I would then drop the demand for 626 00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:07.280 bret power. Is that what I'm saying dolls and funds the importational manufacturing of 627 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:17.159 those things locally local power drops. I think I think one important thing is 628 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:29.039 to ensure that we we don't you know us too, you know, I 629 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:32.679 think I think the way the way it is, we definitely want to see 630 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:39.679 this sector continue to grow. We have single rapid groups in recent times and 631 00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:44.840 we know that, you know, even with local manufacturing, it needs time, 632 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.960 it needs time to develop, you know, just to ensure that we're 633 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:53.880 having the right county and we're also getting to the right skill to make the 634 00:59:54.000 --> 01:00:00.960 demand there isn't like you that we would still need to always have access to 635 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:07.199 you know, cheaper you know, sources of this component off shore. Just 636 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:13.679 to keep context in in America the manufacturer solar panels. In Canada the management 637 01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.639 manufacturers panels. But for some reason the panels that comes to this part of 638 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.760 the world come from China. And the major reason is because because of the 639 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:28.400 economics of scale that China is for printing up and to get the price in 640 01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:34.079 to a price point where it's easy for markets like hours to absolve this. 641 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:39.320 Right, even with myning panels from from America, of you know, the 642 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:45.800 European markets, the price point for Nira times would be won't be talking about 643 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:50.920 great party, right, I won't be saying that's comparable to great price. 644 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:55.679 So one thing is setting that you know, without subsidies as well, it 645 01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:00.800 would it would take some time for Nigeria it gets to the scale way, 646 01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:07.320 the price c scope and before we thought of like start to ensure that you 647 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.679 know, local price points are the saver. As you know this suthing this 648 01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:15.960 from China, I think that was the most important is that we solve our 649 01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:21.880 power problem first, so that means we consist continuously have to keep our markets 650 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.519 open so that these products are coming in from the market to where they had 651 01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:32.199 the competitive advantage of producing and selling off show maybe the suppers day already have 652 01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:37.159 from their government. I think that it's important that we first power our countryad 653 01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:44.360 quickly try when the backward integration. This goes down to you know, the 654 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:52.320 the the the the lower imputs, the smaller imputs that make up these solutions. 655 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.280 I think the point you made around you know, the material has been 656 01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:02.559 sussed. Castina is a good example ways that actually the cereal is also available 657 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:09.199 locally, so we can overtime build competitive advantage us. Another good example of 658 01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:16.519 having lithium available in Nigeria in the natural states as saying that if we build 659 01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:22.039 batteries because we have the medium available, we have the deposit availble in our 660 01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:25.519 country of the time, we can build competitive advantage in those areas. So 661 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:30.599 that's something that comes with skill comes you know, with a lot of you 662 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:35.760 know, improvements in technology, know how, technology know how. But I 663 01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:40.239 think that this means that you know, aspert in these spaces with's hopefully more 664 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:45.800 foreign investments, we know how it can be transferred to the Nigeria and maybe 665 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:52.679 in the next decade or would see a lot of these solutions be able to 666 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:57.679 you know, compete price wise. Now I'm saying a lot of that's to 667 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:04.239 say that we have a opportunities to solve seting products. Sure where the competitive 668 01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:08.239 advantage today, and then we can continue to leverage that to ensure that Nigeria. 669 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:13.480 I guess the point where you know twenty four our power. Yes, 670 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:19.320 it's a given. It's advisible to anyone that you know wants to you know, 671 01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:23.360 access to such solutions. I found I found a bitter and call. 672 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:29.119 So this was the company. It was set up by NASINI. The any 673 01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:35.079 and I does. The national was the National Agency for Science Engineering Infrastructure. 674 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:43.199 So this company is seven point five megawatts solar planel production plant. This capacity 675 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.320 twenty one mega wat. I know if that's what it means, the capacity 676 01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:50.679 megawatts. It was set up ten years ago, back in twenty thirteen. 677 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:55.960 Too many in in Karashi is in Karashi, Abuja and they basically we're making 678 01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:00.800 panels solar. I think they nere handle it over. We're probatly guy, 679 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:02.719 I'm really not sure. I can't get more information, but this is the 680 01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:09.800 company. What about it's a semi own plans thirteen, it's in a I 681 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:14.800 will get more info. Trying to keep get guys to speak calib don't you 682 01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:18.239 want to ask the question just as we're rounding out that right, what is 683 01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:26.559 your biggest cost in your factory in color in portar court and what would you 684 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:30.440 think? What support do you think it's gonna make came to you like says 685 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.039 what can we do for you to crush your presence process? What would you 686 01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:39.800 answer? What's your biggest cost think you're gonna do for you today to crush 687 01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:55.800 good? Thank you very much for the really amazing question. It might be 688 01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:02.800 a very easy answer. What I would like I'd like to take a different 689 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:12.000 round so that my biggest question is UK equipments like atomitted equipments for instance, 690 01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:21.800 to many functioning battery those your power bank factory cells. So if the fact 691 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:30.159 contained like about eight thousands, so just to give me a context of what 692 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:35.280 if one of our products is by the way, it's an only one device 693 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:42.519 as the invert your battery, your charge control in one solar funnel and then 694 01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:48.960 it gives you energy to have a allows you uptimaility over one from your energy 695 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:54.519 and all due to this in house for powerselves. So that's your question. 696 01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.960 Each of the part about one thousands of those batteries selves. Right now, 697 01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:08.119 you need a machine that comprens human beings, we definitely have at some points. 698 01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:14.119 So now so I could isn't tell me that the machines that the person 699 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.400 are very very expensive like one of those missions like you won't have also read 700 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:24.840 album one of those missions and that's just one. You absolutely others equipments as 701 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:28.800 well. But I will tell you the expensive part for me, which is 702 01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:38.679 the value around now is one of the it gets values is the ability to 703 01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:45.960 think our mindsets. Now all of the massines do that need is for we 704 01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:51.559 use them by ourselves in house. I mean it's almost a shock, and 705 01:06:51.719 --> 01:07:00.360 this is because we had Now this is something that we have very you very 706 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:09.039 well. We need to certain limits, two certain engineering boundaries. I don't 707 01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:18.639 believe that we can completely just like in Africa like you feel like, which 708 01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:38.280 is we are car so a more advanced that my years of experiencing and calib 709 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:43.239 calm I've taken up. I took a great question for you, but it's 710 01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:47.719 a great question like what do you need and what is your biggest cost? 711 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:54.159 Even though he's listening, so I would say, hey, my biggest cost 712 01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:58.039 is this, and this is what I need, I would sit at real 713 01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.239 quick. You don't know who he's listening. I what is in this valid 714 01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.840 want you to answer that question real quick, just to put it out there. 715 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:26.880 Yeah. So so for the what's the reality my biggest okay, what's 716 01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.680 your biggest cost? Like wait, you look at when you look at your 717 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:36.119 your income statement and your expension, what's your biggest expense in your factory gets? 718 01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:45.279 Also is almost the same as is that like the importanduty or the transportation? 719 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.079 What is the specific cost what they're getting? What does that cost? 720 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:51.039 Is the cost of important or the cost of moving the clerics? What was 721 01:08:51.039 --> 01:09:15.039 the cost? Okay? What of important? Uh? Okay? Because so 722 01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:19.119 if some question for you, right if the for instance, the sovereign weld 723 01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:23.319 formed, for instance, came to you, I said, we're going to 724 01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:27.319 invest in your factory to expand it. But in the meantime, do we're 725 01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:32.159 going to place in massive order for components batteries and we're going to cause them 726 01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:38.199 to not charge your duty it would come into Nigeria and no duty because we're 727 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:43.520 going to generate power locally. We do then sort of get people like promise 728 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:48.920 promise is but I'm not asking promise if you were getting batteries at half the 729 01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:54.600 price, would you go to this your own price by fifty percent? If 730 01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:59.800 if if you're Caleb and please I gave you a battery at a lower price, 731 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:04.079 do that translates to you taking your puys down by fifty percent? Yes? 732 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:13.880 So wa wain okay excellent? So what guide us from you? So 733 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.920 what we're saying now is that if there's a way at the government, because 734 01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:20.920 we don't manufacturers at scale in Nigeria, if there's the way we can bring 735 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:26.439 in solar panels and where we can bring it batchy packs and tell the customs 736 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:30.560 not to charge import duty so he comes in into Nigeria, because we're going 737 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.680 to use that impute to make wealth in Nigeria. So there's no point customs 738 01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:40.880 charging duty. If you can't pay the freight it comes in, you can 739 01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:45.079 take it to your factory. Like that, he can make more locally manufactured 740 01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.479 batchers and selves. That would be a force multiplier, as they say, 741 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:54.680 for the natural economy of the right. Yeah okay, So I mean so 742 01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:59.960 you want to Yeah, great, I just want to get that point across 743 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:04.119 pit I want is this something I just wanted to ask to that point that 744 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:09.960 the government it did has programs like that already. Okay, so there's something 745 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:15.399 called by friends in the space also know that. So when you're set components 746 01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.199 like batteries, you can't get your waiver, you know, to ensure that 747 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.159 you don't have to pay duties. I just got to share that, so 748 01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:27.920 that of the ages as as well, to be clear. So you said 749 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:31.800 that if I a in part, if I'm importing those components, duties and 750 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:38.359 adant customs exactly, so you're able to apply. So whilst you're you know, 751 01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:45.279 confirmed your shipments, you can also immediately apply to the government to constums 752 01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:50.199 for an idea and that idea gives you weaver opmigunity for your shipments. So 753 01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:55.439 this could combine matters and batteries. So just to say that, you know 754 01:11:56.119 --> 01:12:01.880 the you know the agency agencies doing to support you know, the growth of 755 01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:08.800 the industry and they setting with asdiately. So as we do want research, 756 01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:12.920 we can also ensure that we're getting the best prices so that we can transfer 757 01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:17.119 those we can. Peter answer the question, so it does exist. Why 758 01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:23.520 why are people like why lower if we can bring in these things without paying 759 01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:29.720 custom why everyone doing that? So I think the information is very important. 760 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.560 This is why we're using this platform and this is why we're very wayful to 761 01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:40.039 you for you know, creative performs like the industry players together. So information 762 01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:45.039 is important. Also, some of these are new developments, so sometimes it 763 01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:47.079 takes a while, you know, for all of this to sort of like 764 01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:54.760 become mainstream. And it's a lot of these place. Also the times is 765 01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:58.800 so that we perfect them and do it that scary. So I think those 766 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:02.680 are those are those things supports largely. I think that the you know, 767 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.920 the country has not just inmo the new rate of the dollars, the dollar 768 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:10.840 wasn't wh it was today, so ab some of these benefits started to come 769 01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:15.000 in were hit by significant jump in the price of these equipment. A lot 770 01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:18.880 of the people in the space know that, you know, and it's because 771 01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:23.720 less than that the price it is today. So the systems were telling you 772 01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:28.319 about Ninelio today, some of them were read on, you know, in 773 01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:32.319 genera of last year. It's just to give the context that obviously, as 774 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:38.640 if the evaluation impact hits the market, some of the value that's brought from 775 01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:45.640 tariff redocution or weather or weavers where you know, it wasn't a You know, 776 01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:49.159 we're able to see the immediate impact of those simons, right, so 777 01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:54.319 I think that over time as we are just I would see the benefits that 778 01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:58.880 are also, you know, the goverment has done to sort of like the 779 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:01.520 industry. Okay, so I'm going to just sort of close out the space 780 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:05.960 if you guys don't mind with this question to you. And I mean again, 781 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:13.640 I'm a caliber as like when you're aware of this importanuty with a thing 782 01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:15.399 for batteries, where you're aware of it that exists, let me try to 783 01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:25.640 use it. I beg, I beg, I beg. Share that with 784 01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:29.239 me. Please let me just broadcast so in case all the folks that want 785 01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:30.560 to do this, they can be aware of this space. So just d 786 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:36.279 M me or shirt me and make sure broadcast. And again just yes, 787 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:40.479 sir, and I'll just to make the point again, this is a space 788 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:45.760 where trying to find solutions on this space of not I not criping or saying 789 01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.079 because no, I want to find solutions. Power going up. And what 790 01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:53.359 I read in the papers is that in the next three years, the band 791 01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:57.960 A price is going to be applied to band B, band C and all 792 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.760 that so this band A is coming to you, so you don't say, 793 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:04.720 oh, Peter has said that, and A is great, neutral and all 794 01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:09.680 that it's coming to you. So if the dollar stays where it iss or 795 01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:12.720 dollar goes up, the path is gonna go up. So you are basically 796 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:16.760 educating yourself now on how you can avoid that staying down the face. Even 797 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:20.319 if great power is available. This can be for your rural home or your 798 01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:25.720 village home, or even for your business. You can move some equipment onto 799 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:29.399 the inverta that you can have as emergency power whilst your prey. So this 800 01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:32.199 is not something that you say it doesn't concern me. It will concern you 801 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:36.199 one way or the other. Right, So we're doing this space to get 802 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:40.439 the information out there. I have learned a lot of Trytor, really, 803 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:43.039 I want to just learn, and I've been a lot from Peter Promins and 804 01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:46.000 I kind of coming here, but I'm just sort of now go to the 805 01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:48.880 finance side of it. Right, Peter, I saw you, I saw 806 01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:54.279 you guys picture with bullets. He came to visit your factory. I'm gonna 807 01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:59.399 talk about scaling, right, are you guys? I want to start from 808 01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.680 Peter, I are you looking at for you investors, how are you guys 809 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:06.760 funded the money part of it? I you guys don't do an IP if 810 01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:10.520 you can, you don't have to say that. But what is the plan 811 01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:15.680 for you guys going forward to list that's a space for you then go ahead. 812 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:23.680 Thank you, thanks, thanks for mentioning that. So today energy is 813 01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:28.199 supported and you know has been invested in the search arch. Some of the 814 01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:34.760 investors of manage to be include notable DFIs such as you know, the Norwegian 815 01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:42.800 Development Finance Institution, which is no fund. Also, we have the DFI 816 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:46.479 as one of our investors, which is the European the df I, like 817 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:51.920 you mentioned, break Through Energy Ventures, which is led by the Gates you 818 01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:56.800 know, is also one of the investors of energy today. And we also 819 01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.000 have all One, which is a harm of Shell you know that focuses on 820 01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:05.279 energy access. You know, it's also an investor in energy. Again, 821 01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:10.119 we believe that there is a lot of you know, capital flows in the 822 01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:15.439 climate space today, right, So I think from the private capital standpoint with 823 01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.800 the business as you know, has been heavily funded you know, and has 824 01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:25.920 been venture back over the last five years, right, which has assisted the 825 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:30.720 business in growth. Right, So again, we continue to leverage the capital 826 01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:35.359 availability, the development space and in them that investment space to continue to grow 827 01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:40.840 the efficacy of our solution to the markets. And if in the future it's 828 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:45.279 as we also bring this opportunity so they properly to take you know, ownership 829 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.600 in the business and also to raise more capital. I think that's in the 830 01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:53.039 future. That's the day that we could explore. But that those are conversations 831 01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:56.760 that would happen watch later. I think what you're likely to see more, 832 01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:02.039 you know, in the net medium to net end is maybe accessing the the 833 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:09.000 capital markets. You know, so true commercial paper issuances, you know, 834 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:15.319 board issuance is where you know iNTS can get also participates supporting the guts of 835 01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:19.079 the convince and energy and the space as a whole. So we're looking a 836 01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:25.039 little more of debt not equity, I get that right. Yes, so 837 01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:29.079 the business is well for in equity today. You know, we have a 838 01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:33.560 solid capital pies and we continue to have response that believe in the business and 839 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:38.880 want to continue to back. Oh yes, well we would most likely be 840 01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:41.760 the market. Okay, but I'm not I'm not putting on the spot, 841 01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:43.680 Peter, I'm not putting on the spot. But I'm just saying that even 842 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:45.560 if you guys didn't listening on the market, not to responds, just like 843 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:49.439 maybe in listening by production, that's also going to boost the Natuck plus market. 844 01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:53.359 Of course, put your guys out there so it can just be listening 845 01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:58.760 another naturally ENGINEX has a it's called the group board, just to be there, 846 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:00.920 and I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying that it's something that's 847 01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:04.520 want to look at. So we also expanded deep in the junk Apore market. 848 01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:09.319 But great work. Very impressed that you guys are doing so fast. 849 01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:14.119 Thank you so much, and thank you again for the opportunity. All right, 850 01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.359 welcome mister Caleb also as well. I know you are more you are 851 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:23.079 still you are really really at the start up or consutional stage. What's your 852 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.319 plan? How are you forming? Are you going to raise fund from the 853 01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:28.119 custo market? Are you being dead? What do you have in mindself? 854 01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:44.720 Okay, you very much. So we have so at this point to skill 855 01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:58.840 we have like uh as for meated uh, majorly from real estate, and 856 01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:20.319 we're also looking to yes, we are very much uh what yesterday? Okay, 857 01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:24.319 So I mean this is a different, different but you've got to go. 858 01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.800 So you've got to go now. I have to speak an investment banker. 859 01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:30.800 I start to package documentation. You know, if you want to skill, 860 01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.680 you have to have the right paper and say this is what we are 861 01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:38.199 doing. These are our numbers. We want to get funding to do X, 862 01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:42.560 Y and z. I think you have a good product and the environment 863 01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:46.079 now suits you. Even if it's not commercial funding. I think DFIs will 864 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.000 also be very interested in you. Ministered going to be interested in you. 865 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:54.640 I'm surprised no one has has invested in you. But no many people a 866 01:20:55.159 --> 01:21:00.520 d M order my system. So you should organize yourself intell, right, 867 01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:03.000 so if you come and knock on your door, you can say this is 868 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:08.720 what I'm looking for. This are my non is My doesn't just advice right 869 01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:13.199 that way? You know people want to impest in opportunities, right, so 870 01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:40.880 make yourself an opportunity, right kill all right? Okay, yeah, okay, 871 01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:45.000 ready, okay, I can help you with that if you DM after 872 01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:47.199 this, If you have something you can send him, I have a few 873 01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:50.720 I can on it by as well. Promise not not not to leave you 874 01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:56.439 hanging. Promise I know you are not quote unquote manufactor anything. But what 875 01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.199 what is your own sense You are funding your your your customers, bere the 876 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.199 but in your own self, how are you also going to scale? You 877 01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:12.239 are doing as training? What is your own idea of scaling or would that 878 01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:15.720 be if you scale? Looks look at for you going to be a star 879 01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:21.159 front retail outlets out there better? Yeah, my skill is going to be 880 01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:28.359 in form of pretty by offering the services because I noted that we have so 881 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:33.279 many solar install of them don't know about out installer, Like you're not going 882 01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:39.399 through the business. It was dropping from the city into installation. So I'm 883 01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:43.560 kind of looking for like a partners by say all these beings for the company 884 01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:49.600 get installation install like certifying Stoller to go and do the ass for them coming 885 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:58.119 there see for instance installation and like this over that thing because looking from the 886 01:22:58.239 --> 01:23:05.159 rest is that Okay, Okay, I'm probably promise question for you. Are 887 01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:09.600 you are you trained? Are you certified? How did you how did you 888 01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:16.359 become satisfied? Okay, so you have to I'm giving advice. You have 889 01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:21.760 to create your Twitter paid around your business. Right, I don't see promise 890 01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:29.039 energy look at look at you see you see the handle. There's energy, 891 01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:32.000 so you want to do the same thing they've done. You want also put 892 01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:35.800 your on your picture, your your fight, put it out there. You've 893 01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:40.199 paid for it, so put it out there. So you sort of credentialize 894 01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:44.880 yourself because people want to do it with some as it's a corporate if you 895 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.199 have like I said, it's just a guarantee yourself. You just saying they 896 01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.600 give warranty and you can say the price difference with the warranty. So you 897 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:54.960 want to imitation the more flattery. You're never gonna ahead of you copy of 898 01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:59.079 that young private yourself. You're here with them, you know, and you 899 01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:02.279 can grow now you have a footprint. So I see you people already asking 900 01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:08.479 you question on Twitter, take advantage package yourself and then the world is all 901 01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:14.159 you say, your oyster. Yeah all right, so good job. So 902 01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:16.760 we're gonna close. I know if anyone has any clothing to comment thoughts before 903 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:19.399 I shown on the space. I w've got a few guys here. A 904 01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:23.840 lot of it is not anomal space, guys, but it's a space for 905 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:28.960 information. We are always looking at how money will have your money if you 906 01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.840 can mind your money. And this is the biggest story if you want to 907 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:34.760 ask me this week or even this year, because what it means is that 908 01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:40.439 if you are paying more for power, you have less money to invest any 909 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.600 budget that you had. And this is maybe the saying is great, but 910 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:46.159 like I said, this Grade A will cut across the board because if I'm 911 01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:51.279 a bakery and I'm paying Grade A, I will pass the cost onto you 912 01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:58.199 down go the refinery will be out right. And if don't go to refinery, 913 01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:00.840 is that means diesel will come to the Julia That would more or less 914 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:05.359 help the costing of diesel power. Yes, so I don't know what the 915 01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:10.079 negative effect will be. If it did that diesel will will kick off the 916 01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:14.680 expensive great here, I'm not sure, but this is going to be a 917 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.640 major change in your budget, in your spending, even in your world. 918 01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:21.279 Right, So what you want to do is to find out how you can 919 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:25.720 sort of, you know, head against this. That's what to do on 920 01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:28.800 this space. So let me just take a few questions. I think I've 921 01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.279 got to guys I want to speak, let me get tell me, let 922 01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:35.720 me see tell me the world, who is our sponsor? Tell me the 923 01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:42.640 guys from UH and shell me. Please go ahead and use yourself. I 924 01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:45.640 know you you sponsored this space today. Thank you again for doing that. 925 01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:53.119 Yeah and only we have but thank you, so please also talk about I 926 01:25:53.199 --> 01:26:00.039 can hear you thank you for using market intelligence for your markets takes. We 927 01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:05.319 are so watful for that. I'm really exactly about this space because most of 928 01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:10.079 the guys book about something that will really step before and that's what I want 929 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:15.760 for. What this book about is the iduty tools that always have to monitor 930 01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:17.760 what you use. So let me tell you what I think most like, 931 01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:21.199 just need to learn how to manage what we have. So if you have 932 01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:26.720 in five KP and you wanted to last for four hours, you should put 933 01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:30.560 the exactly load to put on it for that period. And that's why the 934 01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:35.960 idols that most of the comperections have a very important so you're able to monitor 935 01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:40.239 what to need, what conswer or give an example where I was living in 936 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:45.399 the part in Nigeria or using that I was to wait that way able to 937 01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:49.279 use a chad for it for next six hours. I used for hours basically 938 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:54.119 because power does the things that we need where we needed because you know what 939 01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:58.239 the consution is. Now like the other guyport his name when you put too 940 01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:02.479 much load on your products. He brownces and people who just you know the 941 01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:04.880 one you have five sis, you have six secs. You have this. 942 01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:09.319 You do need to use all of them at the same time, which one 943 01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.239 is privately and when one is in the sitting room, which is working. 944 01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.039 Now if you're not your room, you don't need to have your life on 945 01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:21.399 so that it spends the the lifespan right from the analytics, because you can 946 01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:24.520 see it from anywhere. You can call your duran say, look, you 947 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:29.840 guys, switch these places because it's just service. If you blow it out, 948 01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:31.680 because remember you have to charge and you blow it, you have to 949 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.640 lean out to you because the more you put on it, the more you 950 01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:40.000 would train it out. It's like it's like marchanalytics where you have to learn 951 01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:45.600 to look at it every time optimize optimize optimists. You get more long term 952 01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:47.920 because if you if you use it too much like you've got it because it's 953 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:53.279 brand new, it tell he has to become five years. Unfortunately. That's 954 01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:57.479 just this was my total the developments that they are doing, the iotes and 955 01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:01.319 the connections that they're doing on their side, which is for me manufacturing, 956 01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:06.720 what can manufacturer and when it comes to developing so you can help money and 957 01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:13.840 save money. This way, I am cure what they're all doing. Well, 958 01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.800 these are entrepreneurs take going into the ditches to manufactured power products, all 959 01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:23.520 of them from the peas or color probably all in that space. It's not 960 01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:25.680 a difficult place to be in. But they're doing it, you know. 961 01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:29.479 So we have we given that. Thank you so much that Tommy, I 962 01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.600 appreciate you doing that and also produced posting the space. Also, can you 963 01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:38.399 talk about your own mathemaetics? What's happening this week? Just in case are 964 01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:43.439 we going to make money this week? Well, you have a marketizing I 965 01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:47.039 need people make money and lose money every day. It depends on what you 966 01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:51.039 say to the market and why the people you don't as will say you reports 967 01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:58.560 right, but the ares that you need Actually when I say actually, for 968 01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:03.920 example, people will talk about in marketing, so in stock market or doesn't 969 01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:10.359 speak to the givide of brands. It's just an overview right things around as 970 01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:14.760 if we give's around the top five top ten, right, it's good information, 971 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:17.960 right because how would you know with brands to investing, how would you 972 01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.439 know which one is growing up? We want to but you will say there's 973 01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:26.399 stump and dump in stop market. If we have are used moning sights, 974 01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:29.800 right, if we have been a date on your dash for for example, 975 01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:32.159 you have with to date, you have month to dates. We have data 976 01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:35.560 analytics. What that HAPs to do is if you see today to know who 977 01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:41.600 is grewing? Do you understand on Monday Tuesday was this brand is growing up? 978 01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.680 I'm plugging at the right time. If you have more to date, 979 01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:47.479 you know your product because it's the last one month, right, and if 980 01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:50.399 you here today you see a products because it's for the longer your So don't 981 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:55.560 happen because what happened with you with what we get quected from maybe procas that 982 01:29:55.640 --> 01:30:00.680 the police they take top five right, top ten are the lowest five at 983 01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:04.039 all. And now what happens is I Mandy particular brand has plowed ten two 984 01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:08.399 days, right, you have close ten two days, you have percent today, 985 01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:12.960 you have ten, the next twenty percent in one week. But as 986 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:16.000 to start dropping that going by two two percent for the next thirty days, 987 01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:19.720 because you are two percent, you're in between the lawyer and I are you 988 01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:24.880 not appearing any of the reports of the broadcast? Now what that does for 989 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.640 you is you would have thought you were doing twenty percent by one month of 990 01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:32.720 two percent lost without forty percent? Looks do you understand? So it makes 991 01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:39.880 sense for businesses to understand where to stand by using proper analytics reports to do 992 01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:42.600 what they're doing. And it's good that we'll be formilier and I need to 993 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.880 do to put it out there. There's lots of visions about you are injured 994 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:51.119 and just gives you information. Is the place where you're the I would like 995 01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:58.279 it. They give you as more information as possible, but it's between information 996 01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:03.239 and inside and has any when you say sales, I say profit to trees, 997 01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:09.960 it's just the vanity, but probably tells you exactly what the business is 998 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.359 doing and how you can go. So they are tofer. So we provide 999 01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:17.159 trying to put data because of all this probably has said any guys that this 1000 01:31:17.279 --> 01:31:21.159 to it, kind to it and we take it back from the market to 1001 01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:27.520 build the insights right and I'm very happy with that play. The Sibian as 1002 01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:30.800 said, places back we go to raise money, there's no banker and raise 1003 01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:34.680 money back data and I can't tell you for free who banker is. Money 1004 01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:38.560 we have doing and a machine learning and I'll tell you why that is so 1005 01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:45.039 the business day. Every investor wants to know the fluctility of your currency before 1006 01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:48.199 if I invest in your business. They want to know. So if I 1007 01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:51.960 put money here, like what happens toward recently, over the last year as 1008 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:56.319 well last sixty years, well last twenty five years, what is the percentage 1009 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.760 change in currency in four years? Sego, so that I know if I 1010 01:31:59.840 --> 01:32:03.199 have another eighties the currency will change by two percent, will lose by two 1011 01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:09.560 percent or by five percent? Yes, next eight yes, these people's crazy, 1012 01:32:09.960 --> 01:32:15.720 right, will lose percent maximum now we have recently is just outliers. 1013 01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:19.680 They are not our siety. You need to know seasonality, you need to 1014 01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:23.520 know patterns, you need to do traits, and every issue needs to have 1015 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:29.199 that standing because if you're an issue and you don't have those, those insights 1016 01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:31.880 in resource will find out and we will tell you based on this information, 1017 01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:35.359 I can't invest that because before ratility you're in your country? Is this? 1018 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:41.520 You tell them our siety is this. We have our fliers at this point, 1019 01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:46.319 this point, but this is worth our maimm change loss for over the 1020 01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:49.479 next five years, and I'll tell you thereabout we won't lose what a ten 1021 01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:59.039 percent except different preables that we have with system changes by CFOs that look you 1022 01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:02.880 need to do. Make sure that your brand uses analytics to keep your share 1023 01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:06.640 price up because the kind of fair price will have its all determine type of 1024 01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:11.039 investors you have. But I'll tell you why. If you if your share 1025 01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:15.239 price keeps going up and comes our looks, you attracted short sellers. And 1026 01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:18.960 what that means. What that means is that short what that misses for short 1027 01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:24.319 selling if your enterprise goes up to twenty, they buy at sixteen when it 1028 01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:28.319 gets twenty it self because they know it will come back to twelve, and 1029 01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:32.159 you buy again at the lower price. Gotcha, gotcha. You should always 1030 01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:38.439 attract shows based on the way of your your profile, your stocking or if 1031 01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:42.079 able to keep it properly. You can't show your business because if the business 1032 01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:45.560 keeps going up and open up where you buy a fifteen, when are you 1033 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:47.359 going to sell? Because he's at twenty, he goes twenty two, you 1034 01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:49.520 can never go to you to say it because if you sell it, that's 1035 01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:55.520 eighteen the next time you want. But we are twenty two seven. So 1036 01:33:56.119 --> 01:34:00.600 trying to sustainable way of managing that one investments with you for a long time 1037 01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:03.800 and like you can. It's like you said to me, top market is 1038 01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:10.560 where wealth is built. Stay all of them, don't. You don't speak 1039 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:16.840 like nineteen In ten years, stop market did two percent two yes, and 1040 01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:23.680 I just say ten years two two percent is nineteen point. But you know 1041 01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:30.960 you had undred initial understand so that gives it one on nineteen percent combinder to 1042 01:34:31.039 --> 01:34:35.119 tool. So if you're to build long term wealth to the stop market, 1043 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:41.720 but you need to know that the insights that getting to plant is more important 1044 01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:46.920 than than just gotcha, I got you. Yeah, good point, good 1045 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:51.800 point. Yeah, I don't. I don't crowd out Peter and the rest 1046 01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:59.119 of the so guys, so let me just Peter promised, Uh, let 1047 01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:00.720 me take the last I think he's been here for what. I let you 1048 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:04.159 guys go for the day. I appreciate you guys real quick. I am 1049 01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:08.720 Sagio Classic brand real quick at the last game, because you don't been waiting. 1050 01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:19.159 Sergio don quick comments before we shot down the space Sergio Classic. Alright, 1051 01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:25.560 Sagio, thanks for requesting Peter promise and Caleb. I appreciate you guys 1052 01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:30.720 for coming. Short notice, favorite short notice for coming and for sharing with 1053 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:33.880 the community what we can do. The key point for me that I picked 1054 01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:39.960 up is that this this pros you guys have is great. Neutral and new 1055 01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:43.720 word for me mean that if I use them correctly, it's almost at the 1056 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:47.920 same cost as the grade. So I make an initial payment, but initialment 1057 01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:53.039 pays me back and I'm able to control how I can use my power. 1058 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:56.520 So that's savings for me. If I'm not at home as produce off. 1059 01:35:56.880 --> 01:36:00.159 Maybe if we start feeding times literally next year, I could make on it 1060 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:02.960 from it. For now, I can control that cost as long as the 1061 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:08.680 initial capital outly, it's a huge capital outlet, but you're gonna have said 1062 01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.000 that. Listen, we can get the capital, or we can get a 1063 01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:15.760 loan from banks, and cannot to share those banks without sending we promise, 1064 01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:23.039 so it's not all cash deal. I can finance that that offer and also 1065 01:36:23.079 --> 01:36:26.079 be impressed that they're making these things locally. People who share that. We 1066 01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:30.000 can also even import these things at zero maybe lower tariff, so that with 1067 01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:33.239 the cost can come down. Our whole goal is to bring down the cost 1068 01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:38.840 so that the household can have more money to consume. The issue that is 1069 01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:42.760 the lack of consume shut up where the companies are not investing on hiring people 1070 01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:48.840 because nobody's consuming this. Tiifts PMS dollars all up to removing funds from the 1071 01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:53.119 household that it cannot consume. So again, thanks guys for it, for 1072 01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:58.079 coming here. That's that we're gonna shot shut the space down guys next week. 1073 01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:03.920 Last say your last Peter promise and calib and we'll be here on an 1074 01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:16.279 hour minutes Peter and the last words I think, let's promise Peter, you 1075 01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:19.119 can have to get picture my promise and the last words from you before we 1076 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:25.119 go. Yeah, I just don't. I want to appreciate it once again 1077 01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:43.520 for bringing onto this. I won't read Niger manager energy meaning is arning on 1078 01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:51.159 some more degrees than an efficiency, but by this seems to be sugar money 1079 01:37:51.239 --> 01:37:57.000 and energy efficiency. The system last longer. What down this specified time is 1080 01:37:57.039 --> 01:37:59.960 there? Thank you? Thank you so much for that caliber. Any quick 1081 01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:06.319 closing words from you before I come out to Yeah, so thank you very 1082 01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:11.920 much for this one opportunity and also thank you for PROMI for boy you said, 1083 01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:15.439 and just to add to that, won't be viewed that this for our 1084 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:23.399 mover actually helps you to manage the energy conveniently without stressing your head or brains. 1085 01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:27.199 Will so our mover, I tell you how much energy your homes for 1086 01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:32.159 resuming, and then you can also improve the Okay, you don't want to 1087 01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:40.720 consume particular anymore, you want to consume about wife wears a level your last 1088 01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:45.399 for as long as it was twenty hours for I was as oppose as is 1089 01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:50.720 great to also tell you exactly how much energy consuming at the particular time and 1090 01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:55.159 the moment you exceed that energy. Church would they say by just putting on 1091 01:38:55.359 --> 01:39:00.319 in ink, what's like goal? This system immediately gives you new time that 1092 01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:09.000 you have inceded man and if you calm down immediately to sort up with However, 1093 01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:13.920 it is completely a enable and addition freedom that we need to run into 1094 01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:17.880 energy. Excellent. Thanks for Kailer, appreciate you find out for us. 1095 01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:25.159 Peter, how are you, sir? Thanks for having Thank you so I 1096 01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:30.600 would just say that thank you again for giving us this opportunity to stay here 1097 01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:36.359 and to market products for everyone who is interested in energy products. This is 1098 01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:42.399 our Twitter handle is on this call and the name of the contents energy spelled 1099 01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:47.520 A R N R Y. 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You can as as five and 1109 01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:35.319 go over twenty k. I will continue to support you. Thank you, 1110 01:40:35.960 --> 01:40:40.600 thank you so much. Guys. Hey, all good tings will come to 1111 01:40:40.680 --> 01:40:44.000 an end. We're going to wind down and just make this last point. 1112 01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:47.520 So if you are being power and ania you have a solution that will reduce 1113 01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:51.439 costs for the consumer, please dm me. I can share that for the 1114 01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:58.399 con to on my space my timeline at no cost to you. So folks 1115 01:40:58.479 --> 01:41:01.640 have that happening right and we can get these things at a cheaper course. 1116 01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:05.560 Thanks for my guest, Thank you all for listening. I hope you guys 1117 01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:10.760 have a great start of your week and Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday, Tursday 1118 01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:14.199 and Friday times to be excellent for you guys on Donnel guys. I'll see 1119 01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:16.319 you guys next week. Have a good day and bye.