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Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Gee Ram, It's Bilified the Bill Moran
Podcast. Well, hello and welcome, Thanks for getting pot on, Thanks
for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.
And you get out and enjoy the last really nice day we're gonna have
for a while to the seventies tomorrow and rainy, yeah and rainy, I
know, yeah, yeah, that's all that's really nice day. I didn't
get out to you didn't do anything. No, I worked, so did
I. But I always I gotta tell you, like find ways to get
outside. Yeah, no, wow, I I don't know, because you
know we bott well, you've got like a time restriction. I don't right,
I can work till one o'clock in the morning, which I've done and
get shit done, but I'll get outside take her from to something. I
was like, I was damn to the help bend today, to get out
there and enjoy some of it, because then you know what's gonna happen,
Danny. The weather's gonna turn and all of a sudden we get into the
time of year where I mean people start thinking about the holidays and radio stations
go to all this kind of music all the time. October fifth, it
got me, she fouled me. Is that a bet like you're supposed to
like it's an hotter bet where like you have to like I don't know this,
Oh you never heard about this? No? No, no, Every
Christmas season, I don't know, everybody starts at zero and you can't do
anything about it. This song finds you and you have to call yourself out
on the day of the song finds you and people try to see how far
they can get to Christmas before they hear this song. Oh how funny.
Yeah, oh I like that. Let's do that this year. Yeah.
Okay, so we're out, Well we're not We're not out. Okay.
What's the line of demarcation? Is it Canadian Thanksgiving? Which is Monday?
I was gonna say Halloween? Do you think that's too? I think it
is Halloween because that's when all the bad stations like start flipping the switch.
Ye, do you think that's Christmas music? Should we should we make that
the line of hola Yeah, all Saints Day, November first, that is
when we will That's that's when we you know, did evolved too. So
yeah, Kevin not here tonight, taking a night. I think I think
things. I don't know, things may have hit them, I have,
I have no idea. I've never lost a parent. I know, I
know you have and I and I don't know what that's like. And I
had a three year head start. I mean, he had cancer like it
was a stage four. But that's my point though, that's my point.
And it's never easy. It's never easy. That's my point though, That's
what I'm trying to say. It's like I had a three year head start.
It's still sucked. Yeah, I'm sure I can't imagine what that is
like. And I would never the one thing I always try to, uh,
you know, people will say, well, you know i've lost a
Yeah, it's not your parent unless it's a dog. Yeah, let's see.
Well that's my favorite that I know. Somebody go find another one.
Yeah, so that one, that one. I stumbled upon something today that
I had no idea about. Mariah Carey, who we just heard and our
line of demarcation will be Halloween, and we have to admit when we first
hear her song, yeah, we get. We should get everybody involved in
this. Everybody who listens to Billified should take okay, yeah, I'm in
everybody, everybody, let us know what five eight five two six eighty eight
sixty six I heard the song about. She has a memoir called the Meaning
of Mariah Carey, and in it she gives like all the details of her
personal life, including her contentious marriage with Tommy Mottola, who was the former
Sony music head. He was like twenty years old in her wasn't he?
Yeah, I guess I don't know morsels about recording this her smash fifth album,
Daydream, but she also released a secret alternative rock album that she described
as irreverent, raw, and urgent. I love to hear this, I
know, so okay, So now I'm intrigued. Was this about the time
where Garth Brooks was doing the Chris Gaines thing? Because I think a few
of the artists were actually experimental with doing something completely different under the pseudonym,
and he actually went into character in exicot. Yeah he did, he did,
But this is uh. She revealed neither the band name nor the project
title in her memoir, but alongside an expert on Twitter, she included the
hashtag hashtag chick chiick hashtag chick, and fans went crazy and they discovered there
was a band named Chick that released an album called Someone's Ugly Daughter in nineteen
ninety five, around the time, well it was the same time as Daydream,
her album Daydream came out, so it started sparking questions. How could
one of the most visible pop stars in the entire universe, which she was,
quietly released an alt rock album under analias. What's the theory? Someone
built a time machine and we were living in an alternate universe. Okay,
so Carrie, it did happen. It was a side project, yeah,
and she kept it under wraps and she used analias, and she had built
the idea around Malibu Barbie. How funny is that here we are in twenty
twenty three, the biggest Halloween costume probably will be Barbie because of the movie
Barbie. So for her alter ego project, she wanted it to be an
out l at for some anger and stuff simmering in her personal life, inspired
by bands like Hole and Garbage. And I don't know, Sleeter Kinney,
I don't know that you know when you mentioned this, the first thing that
went to my head was Whole. Yeah, because Courtney Love. The theory
is that Kirk Colbain really wrote all her stuff and she just sang it and
called it her own. But that's where my head went, because who are
you gonna copy? Well, you're gonna copy like somebody like Hole. Yeah,
she said. I was playing with the style of the breezy, grunge
punk, light white female singers who were popular at the time, you know,
the ones who seemed to be so carefree with their feelings in their image.
That's what she wrote in her memoir, and then she said they could
be angry, angsty and messy with old shoes, slips and unruly eyebrows.
Well, every move I made was so calculated and manicured. I wanted to
break free, let loose and express my misery, but I also wanted to
laugh. It's kind of you know, you can understand that. I mean
everything. Yeah, it does sound cathartic because every single thing is so controlled.
So while they were so this is what happened. She did do this
album. It was during the day they did Daydream at one of the studios
in New York City, and then at night, around midnight, she would
go to a different studio and they would record what became Someone's Ugly Daughter.
And then the powers that be found out about the album. Now she wrote
it. She wrote it with some guys who were playing like in her band,
and I don't even know if they were part of She didn't have a
band, right, So these were session guys and she liked one of them,
and so they went not like them, only Matt, but yeah,
Sony Music, the parent company of her then label, Columbia, refused to
release the record. With her her vocals is the lead. So according to
some people, Sony renamed the band because she had named it Eel Tree because
when she was flying out of Scandinavia, one of the Scandinavian countries, she
saw what she referred to as eel Tree, so she wanted the band to
be called Eel Trees. And they changed it to Chick. And they made
her and she co wrote every song except for the cover of Cheap Trick Surrender
that they did. They made him her sanitize some of the explicit lyrics,
and then they also brought in her friend Clarissa Dane to become the face of
the band Chick, and put her vocals on top of Carrs. They layered
them on top. So if you go look up Chick, you'll find a
woman who looks a lot like Claire Dane. I don't know if they're related.
That Clarissa Dane, Well it's Claire Danes. Yeah, Danes, Okay,
So Clarissa Dane is her friend. And she sang Taylor Dane a baby.
Listen to this, this is this is Yeah. Now you can't really
hear carry because they over dubbed the this is Malibu Barbie, listen to these
songs or these lyrics, and I probably love your ass. Ga. It
makes me think like she hated Tommy Watola, and this is her way of
saying, I would cheat on you, I would dump your ass. I
don't know, I'm using you and I Harry. It's very Arucas saltish,
Yeah, very Avril Levigne, very poppy. Yeah. Well, I mean
that's probably what she knew more than anything, right. But somebody said they
heard her original vocals. One guy who was recording with her goes, it
was really interesting, wouldn't that be at Now this album is selling for like
eight hundred dollars a copy on eBay. People are buying it. Oh wow,
yeah, wow yeah. And by that point she I want to hear
Mariah sing it, though I do too. This is but she supposedly they
didn't get rid of her vocals. They overdone, Like oh yeah, you
always say that they them heard them. That's an a vault somewhere. Yeah,
that's money just waiting to come out. Well it's interesting, is it
not? Yeah, here's another song. It depends on who owns the rights
to Mariah. Did she did? She own herself in her own catalog or
doing Tommy. No, that was Columbia PROMI Tommy. This is another one
from them. She had a massive number one, eight number one songs in
the first four years of her career. She was I mean, she was
a powerhouse vocalist, right, I mean that was she was known for.
Can you see you're singing this? Yeah? I could see that. It's
false food. I crave here, I crave. I don't know who she
craves the singer. It's not Mariah and this announce it's that danger sound dangers
channeling Courtney Love. So the music itself is kind of like in that whole
garbage. Sony made this a priority to get out, like they wanted it
out. They didn't want it attached to Mariah Carey in anyway, but they
wanted it out. And I think they were trying to do that to keep,
you know, people from saying, hey, Mariah Carey's on this,
and then everybody would go crazy, right, So, but no one was
biting, and I think it didn't sell and no one was picking it up,
so went nowhere. I mean, it's not that good. I'm gonna
real listen to it, but it would have been interesting to hear if she
had done Chris Kynes's album Garth Brook wasn't very good. It wasn't. It
wasn't, but it was at least him trying to you know, here's my
alter ego. Yeah, something like you know Texarcano. Let's say, she
wrote camp, she wrote in Our She wrote in her memoir, I got
kind of in trouble for making this, this album, the alternative album,
because back then everything was super controlled by the powers that be. I never
really was like, oh, we're going to release it, but then I
was like, I should release it. I should do it under Nalius,
let people discover it and whatever. But that got squashed. That's too bad.
Yeah, it is too bad because now here we are at this point
in time, and you know, I always joke like the closest thing we
have to time travel and it's only really time travel and reverse is YouTube.
Yes, because everything's there and you can find these videos. Look up Chick
on YouTube and you'll find probably a couple of these. It's not Mariah Carey
that you're going to see, but her vocals are in there somewhere. Now
that this is she wrote, Well, now that she's talked about this because
really like if you're writing a memoir. There. She didn't give a whole
lot of detail about it in the memoir. Isn't that interesting, Like no
name of the album or anything. But that's but super part of the allure
because we remembered what happened with Chris Gaines. We remember what So you two
had this all this alternative band called the Passengers. Yes, and I believe
Island Records told them, Bro, you can't call it you too. You
gotta call it something else because it was I think it was with Pavaratti or
one of the tenors and stuff like that. They go, Okay, you
got to call it something else, So they called the Passengers. Green Day
had an alternative record called Foxborough Hot Tubs. Yep, right, and she
saw a couple of different ones. I think they may have. They may
have. So we saw what happened with Chris Gaines. It really didn't go
very far. But if she had released it then maybe it wouldn't have gone
very far. But now that it's been twenty five years, or actually almost
thirty years since this happened, well that's what I'm saying. Now it becomes
even more valuable. I want to hear this, and the way she describes
it in the book makes you want to even like buy the book one and
this is the record. Well then that funny because I go, no way
I would ever go and listen to them or read them. I'm just not
gonna But she does have a story, yeah, of course, but the
story. But once she becomes famous, the story kind of And I watched
her on American Idol because I was kind of into that show at the time
and I knew guys who were involved with the show, so it was interesting
to watch. And she was annoying on there. Yeah she's not a real
I mean, like people expect stars to be bright, yes, and they're
not. They're really not. Drummer my old band ian like he's a musician
and he goes man. I read some biographies in my day, and like
I forgot what it was for somebody from Motley Crew ro biography because I put
it down after like one chapter this garbage, because I want to, like,
you know, understand what was going through your head, and instead it
was just like a pile of words. Yeah we partied, you know,
like nobody cares the dirt, right, But no, I don't think it
was the dirt was so it was somebody else because I read it in the
first chapter. I put it down to screw it. The you know,
speaking of young ladies with angst. You weren't here one night, but we
talked to a woman who was arrested and her picture was in the Times of
Wayne County under the head Scratchers, the newspaper that you write. Yeah,
And she was arrested for punching an employee at Walmart in the face. And
so we called her up. And this is what she said to us.
I actually, this is where the story she takes it out of, saying
I didn't even punch her. I slapped her with a bag of race.
I feel like I should be thirteen right there. Well, and now the
Times in Wayne County dropped the ball on that one. I actually made a
status and I said, wow, they gave me more props than I deserve.
Reporter Dan Burrello on the story. So, all right, so you
said I did what I did? Why did you do what you did?
She called me broke for want to exchange the flavor changed the flavor of what
the right was a bag of rice. I didn't know rice had flavor.
Well, you could get the nor whatever the dollar ones? Yeah, okay,
Oh, so you're broke ass up there the Victoria. I'm kidding you.
You're good, You're good. I'm laughing at it. So Victoria,
she called you broke to your face? What did she say? Yeah?
I was already walking halfway down the front of the thing, and as I
was walking away, she said, I don't know what customer that broke to
come to exchange a dollar flavor instead of just buying a whole new one with
bringing it back. But all you want, Well, why couldn't you just
exchange the flavor? I get it. She told me to drive to the
store I work at. You work at Walmart? Yeah? I do?
I do? I do? Did she know you worked for a different one?
Yeah? All right. So she went back to court today, okay,
and we were about to call her to find out what happened. Oh
great, let's see what happened. A little follow up. The name for
Mariah's new band, Rice Slapper. Let's see what Victoria? Hello, Victor,
Damn Whendy ever sing to you? Victoria the song? Did you ever
hear that? No? You never heard, Victoria? No? Oh well,
we'll have to play that for you. Uh, Victoria, we just
played from when the last time you were on the podcast when you told us
about slapping the Walmart employee in the face with a bag of rice because she
called you broke because you wanted to exchange the flavor, and then she said
you should do it at your store. Has there been before we get to
what happened in court, has there been any consequences level by Walmart for this?
No? Just under less. But that's about it. What does that
mean under investigation like this? You know what I'm saying, Like I hear
that all the time, they got us working against the chiefs. Well,
Victoria, let me just let me just throw this out there. I believe
that there is I think I saw this on TMZ that a police officer in
Minneapolis pulls somebody over to give them a ticket, and the person they pull
over, it's a female officer, goes, hey, I know you.
I watch you on OnlyFans. So it comes out, yeah, right,
So she's not only fans. So it gets out this woman has an only
fan, she's a police officer. The mayor of the city of Minneapolis says,
it's behind a paywall. I don't care now they're progressive, but they've
had a whole lot of shit in Minneapolis. So yeah, so I think
that there's no no push there, right, so no consequence. However,
much like victorious situation, the police chief is still investigating. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't know what that means. No, just she called So she
didn't call my Walmart. She called the marketplace company whatever, like just trying
to go at my job whatever. But I actually had to bring the paper
in of my report from the police knocking down the charges whatever, to prove
you know, what happened. And I just haven't heard anything yet. They
said I would pick time, but I got wait until the marketplace people call
me. It's themselves. It's not through my actual Walmart. So what's the
marketplace is that? Is that a division of Walmart? Or is that what
is that? Yeah, it's like their corporate or whatever. They're higher up.
So potentially, then Victoria, you could be no longer an employee of
Walmart. Well, I still have Dunkin Donuts on the sign, right,
that's right. You know what America runs on Duncan's that's right. So what
happened when when you went to court, Victoria, you have for slapping a
Walmart employee in the bag bag of rice. I just got an ACD.
So basically I got in trouble for six months and then it's expounded there and
feel the way, Why do I feel like you're in probation for six months?
Is that what it's It's not really a probation. It just can't get
arrested. Yeah, have you had an ACD before? Victoria? Why do
I feel like maybe you have? I have? Actually? Is that a
local cover band ACD? I don't know. Victoria was the way you said
it, It just rolled off your tongue and I went, this young lady
probably had an ACD before. How old were you when you got your first
a CD? Which I've had an ACD. You can't get in trouble for
six more months and then everything goes in six months, it goes away,
and usually you don't get in trouble. Uh huh. I was eighteen when
my first one. Yeah young, and how old you now? Twenty twenty
four? Twenty four? Okay, so that was six years ago. Yeah,
h sponged space out. What is your family said? That's really no
will? Will you get the mug shot back? I didn't even I didn't
even get handcuffed or a munk shotter. I didn't bring nothing, I didn't
get arrested. Well, they had a picture of you in the Times Wayne
County, not that I I didn't. I saw your picture of the Times
Wayne County. I thought, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I am wrong.
You better send it to me then, okay, because I was going to
make it my profile picture. I was going to ask you if you confused
with the crackhead down the street. I was wondering if you were. I
was wondering if you were going to send it out as your Christmas card this
year. Hey, I could do that too, Yeah, that would be
very funny. How many months you got left? Huh? How many months
do you have left of this a CDC? She just got the a c
D. So yeah, okay, so you can. Okay, So I
be careful that send the Christmas card up this December. Well, why,
I don't know what they're talking about target and somebody might try to antagonize.
Well, let me just say this. If she was Halloween coming up,
if she was caught throwing eggs or toilet paper in somebody's house, potentially that
would be in violation of ver a CD Yeah, a CDC. Yeah,
that's not very good. Uh, Victoria, I want to just play this
for you. This is the science talking about Maybe I have the wrong guy.
This is the King. Maybe we get into it here. Hang on,
Victoria, Yeah, I want this to be your ringtone. Oh,
He'm all right, Carrie's version. Alright, make it it the next time
I call you. I think I should. I should make you are Wayne
County correspondent. Yeah, you can tell us. Yeah, keep us updating
on all the things that are happening in Wayne County. Because you work at
a Walmart, you work at the dunkin Donuts. What is the worst thing
do you ever work to drive through dunkin Donuts? Yeah? Yeah, what's
the worst thing to ever happen at the drive through and dunkin Donuts? I
mean, I never really seen him as liketagonizing back to the people, but
customer service is definitely annoying to me at Best Food more than a grocery store
anything like that. Yeah, I could see that. I've had I've had
a lady come through and I'm like a Mercedes whatever and complaining she had to
pay sixty cents for a cup of water. Well all right, yeah,
I mean like water used to be free when I was all right, well,
tell the old fossil that times have changed. What about Walmart? And
what's the worst thing you've seen in Walmart? Maybe you just you slapping people
with the bag of rice. Yeah. I do overnights there, so I
don't see no customers. You wait, what I work overnights there, so
I don't see no customers. Oh okay, all right, that's good.
Well maybe that's a good overnight stocking. Overnight stocking. Well, keep it
up, Victoria. I know you got a lot going on, and I
appreciate you talking to us. And stay out of trouble. All right,
thank you. That was a good one. You guys, you too,
by bye. There she goes Victoria crown vic Yeah, the Crown. That's
a car, crowned Vicary, the crowned with the bag of rides. There's
no way that girl ever heard this song, you know. Oh that is
I never heard. I heard. I loved the Kinks, the Kicks here,
that's such a diverse like library in music. They used to come and
play in Poughkeepsie every good Friday, and I was always jealous because I was
never allowed to go. So I paid very close attention to the Kinks because
all the cool kids got to go and I wasn't allowed to. Okay,
all right, we'll take a moment when we come back. A loss of
a legend. Loss of a legend today, I heard, yeah, And
also we'll get into your buddy Peter breaking down some film from the Buffalo Bills.
And there were some things that he did not like that were going on.
Yeah, not liking Peter Sauce, something Peter all with a guy that
a lot of people are wondering about. I have wondered about. Ye.
But first this weekend, I would say a common legend is coming to Rochester
and comedy at the Carlson. That would be one Bobcat Goldwait. It's Friday
October sixth for two shows seven and nine and Saturday October seventh, seven and
nine. Writer for The Chappelle Show, director of movies. Did a lot
of really weird artsy stuff. Great comedian. I think his first appearance on
TV was Letterman when he was twenty years old. He's produced a lot of
comedy shows and has produced a bunch of comedy shows. And he's from Syracuse.
Bobcat Goldthwaite. I'm telling you, I say comedy legend, the guys.
He's open for Nirvana. He's been in fights with guys. I think
I know Stern and he had a thing for a little while and he obviously
Bobcat withstood that. I think Bobcat's very cerebral. I think the character we
saw in the Police Academy movies is not who that human being is. It's
not. And I know he was accused of maybe another comic who became very
famous accused him of trying to rip him off. They just had a similar
screech or yell or whatever it was, and uh not Sam Kennison and not
not not really the same in terms of material at all. So Bobcat Oldway
is hilarious and you're gonna be disappointed if you miss him. You can find
out more information at Carlson Coomedy dot com. Paul Connors and Paramis had two
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That's funny as hell. I hope you haven't gave it up on the Hawks,
but the drones things, Yeah, one hundred percent. You and your
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And be sure to like and subscribe to bilified wherever you get your podcast Bomb's
Away, Wow, bombs Away. Do you remember how I played bombs Away
as a child, No, really a child started when I was like really
young. I used to climb a tree and I would shit out of the
tree. You didn't hear it, No, I'd never heard this sit storry.
So we would be out playing in the woods and I have to sinking
shit. So I could climb the tree and I would yell at. I
would yell at everything bombs away, and they'd all run and I shit would
fall it, and then the nature walkers come out and go, man,
what kind of birds this type of stool. But then then in high school
I used to climb to the top of the stall that yeah and okay,
that bombs away, And I used to try to aim it and see if
I could hit toilet. Played Tic Tac toe. Yeah, I tried to
hit right into it bombs away. How accurate could you be? Yeah?
It was not a very popular game, but it got a lot of talk,
very very It was very well known. It was not a hot one
amongst the people playing. I might have been the only one. But I've
told this story, I think out here before we're back in Silver Creek nineteen
ninety six, they didn't have doors on the stalls because every kids smoke.
So they decided, well, if that's the case, then we're gonna make
a game out of it. And this kid named Fuzzy decided to do the
same thing. And the men's lot in the boys locker The problem was they're
given a tour to some like foreign exchange students had come to say for our
school, and they're walking him through the locker room before cross country practice.
Buzzy was like dropping number two, Like get down, because why because my
privacy is already violated. What are you gonna do? Do you matter where?
Doesn't matter where I take the crap, if I'm sitting on the crapper,
if I'm sitting above the crapper, wow, And they're like, y's
the point And soon enough they put doors there you go. And sometimes you
gotta fight back. Yeah, you gotta fight. You gotta fight the man.
Yeah, you gotta fight the man. Dick Buckets I saw, according
to TMZ, passed away at eighty years old. I remember walking up to
the line of the left Dan pastorone talking about Dick Buckets Passerini, Passerini.
Excuse me, I don't know, because I don't ever remember. It's the
man that you fear most in football, staring you right in the face.
What he said to me, I can't repeat. The sensors would have a
mall hall and immediately my voice kind of quivered and started cracking. He was
the greatest intimid day to ever played football. I don't know how good he
told you know what the first time I ever played against him, a rookie
year. Dick was an animal maniac, a stone maniac. He's the kind
of linebacker. Then when he hit our backs, knocks our backwks his ear
hole. He wanted to know who was supposed to block that crazy sucker before
you could begin to try to block a little cults overcome the mystique. And
he didn't appreciate this, but I said it was almost like an odor.
He exuded a kind of a presence. He tried to hurt you. You
know. He was just so competitive an reeves the cowboys and did not want
you to gain a yard. You know, as soon as you had that
football, you were the enemy. And they show all these highlights. But
at one point in this and I think this is from NFL films, uh
Buckets comes out and goes again. But I was really just like a gentle
guy. I didn't now, I don't remember Buckets on sitcoms in the eighties.
Yeah, Like I think he popped up on uh, what was the
one with Bonner Growing Paints, Growing Paints? I think he popped up on
Growing Paints. Okay, Bucks, he tried, like he and Alex Karras
and a few other guys. Like in the seventies, they weren't paying football
players what they're paying them now. Really. Yeah, and so these guys,
if they had personalities, they put him on TV and then eventually they
give him acting jobs. Dick also do play by player or something. Oh
yeah, he was a color commentator and he was also I think he replaced
Jimmy the Greek at one point on the CBS. Yeah, the CBS Show.
But he he didn't stay very long. I have a I think I
had a football card of Dick Buckis doing color commentary for CBS because Pro set
their first six ye remember that they released a bunch of broadcaster cards and he
was one of them. But in fact, he took a job with the
XFL when they first came out, and he became their commissioner. God,
he used to hit guys in their legs, would still be going, He's
flipping them over. Oh, yeah, because he never played the playoff kick
old barn warfare. Well, there's a lot of ways he either Yeah,
he was like an Ernie Banks or like in some ways like a JJ Watt
jjy play playoff games, but they didn't. Houston didn't do much. Yeah,
so, I mean he was ferocious, but the Bears never really had
a quarterback man he and he was welcomed. He could do him on and
every time he hit you, he tried to put you in the cemetery,
not the hospital. God SUPs. He looked at eighty. I know,
I was thinking of all those hits, with all those hits, but man,
he just leveled guys. And he played for what eight years, sixty
five to seventy two or and by the way, he never looked old.
No, you're right, he looked. He also do Major Dad or something?
Was he on one of those shows? I thought, So he looks
like he looks like a guy who would be like a major Dad. Yeah,
with the brush cut in them brush cut? Yes? Did he also
do some floral commercials or no? Am I thinking that that was Merlin Olcer
a little TV? But I wouldn't be surprised if Yeah, I don't know,
I don't think he did. Who I am, he hit somebody there
but a blind side and just k on him. For Dick to one honeyard
dash, you'd take him three days. But I want to tell you something
from that middle linebacker. Twenty eyes this way, twenty eyes that way,
twenty eyes that way. I mean, nobody, nobody was quicker than he
was. Well, Dick, Dick Buckiss. If you or a football fan,
even in the eighties, you know, when I was kind of my
dad was not a fan of football, so I didn't have somebody going,
hey, you gotta watch these guys. I remember this guy. I knew
who he was because he was on TV. You could tell me his number
right now, probably number fifty one. Yep. I mean, it's like
it just stands out. Yeah, you know, it was just he was
legendary, big Burley guy. Now, imagine if he were on a Steelers
team or a Cowboys team in the seventies. Oh gosh, yeah, he
might be the greatest defensive player ever. That's true because they had But with
the Bears, it was all him name the second best defense. No matter
how hard you try to explain that, it sure you were, you know,
so he's basically I explain that that just back here your chest, I'm
the greatest is the opposite, you know, I'm really not the tough Manto
guy that was only during the game. And no matter how hard you try
to explain that, it sure you were. You know. So he's basically
a pain in the ass it on that. Yeah, I believe that.
I believe but gets when he says that to Hest did his job the way
he was supposed to. So, in other words, everybody else is pretty
much a slacker compared to Dick. But gets. If you're playing defense,
I mean you have to think you have to go all the way back to
Richard Dent and Mike Singletary and then and to find the next best defensive players
for the Chicago Bears. Then you have ear Locker. But I mean you
could name him on one hand. Yeah, right, Well, speaking of
that, let's call uh Peter, who want to break it down from film
for us? Peter's been a lot of jocks. I wonder if you've ever
met Dick Buckets. We have to ask, Yeah, Dick Buckets, who
passed away at eighty today. All right, hello, Peter, what's what's
going on? Guy? We were just talking about the late Dick Buckets passed
away today, eighty years old. I just saw that and saw that we
were just playing some old NFL films about him. And I know that you
were upset with a certain player on offense for the Buffalo Bills, for maybe
dogging it on a couple of plays. And it seemed like Dick Buckets never
did never did not once, not once? Yeah, and and and wasn't
making that kind of money if I recall, I don't know, and when
right true? And when the game was over he was he was. If
he lost, he was pissed, and he left the field, didn't shake
hands, even changed journey. Yeah, you know, Yeah, he was
just fired up, kind of got old school, you know, took it
personally for a few days and us rest in peace, Nick Buckets, Do
you meet him of the best? You never did? No, I never
did. I never did. No. I would have loved to. I'm
sure he had some great stories to tell. We did not get to speak
with you before the Miami game. And I don't know that anybody saw or
was able to predict, although Kevin who's on our show, will tell us
he could uh that at least the outcome that we saw and the defense played
lights out, But why is it that it takes them a series or two
to get going? And it always scares the shit out of me because in
the beginning it certainly looked like it was going to be a track mean,
if nothing else in one of those nineties builds, games like it was,
you know, every time they got a score, every time they get the
ball, right, Yeah, that's how I felt, right And going into
the game, I was really really worried about, uh, Miami running the
ball in the perimeter. That was my that was my biggest concern. And
they didn't the ball on the perimeter that much. They ran eleven times,
but they still averaged nine yards per carrying the perimeter. So I'm a little
surprised they didn't continue to. But you know, when you're I think it's
a little hubrius with the with the Miami Dolphins. I think that we witnessed
a little bit. But the Bills did play phenomenal defense from a from a
just from an energy standpoint, from a getting asked in the football you know,
I noticed on film Bill and Danny, which I love, and it
is an old defensive player. It was always told to me a defensive player's
commitment to his unit, not his manscape unit, but his his defensive unit,
his shameless plug there. But his commitment to his unit is measured by
the distance between him and the ball at the whistle. And I always had
always read it resonated with me. So looking at the film, these guys
are all over. They were fly to the football. You saw eleven guys
within seven yards of the ball many many, many many times at the whistle.
And that's just great guys to pursue angles. And the one thing that
I loved to see, which is something that isn't in the x's and o's,
there was so much communication between the Bills defensive players on Sunday. There
were you know, you had guys in the defensive backfield. You know you
have Rap who was in there in a very high intensity situation filling in for
Port, filling in for just did a great job of you could seem communicating
out there. And you know the guys in the defensive backfield that are stepping
up to the defensive line, putting the linebackers in a certain position. You
know that's not x's and o stuff. That stuff that's just you know,
these guys are on the same page and they needed to be and they did
a lot of film work and McDermot got them in the right position and they
played discipline football. I saw the d line, you know, one of
the first times this year consistently played discipline. They weren't jumping gaps. I
know. I talked about it a few times in the past couple of weeks.
They they played great, They really did play great. They were still
the hole. Still some things that you know, you're you're you want to
say. You know, as I said the first week, it's not Things
aren't as good as they seem and there's not as bad as they've seen.
So you got to you know, everything's an even keel. When you win
big or you lose that everything should be taken as an even keel. Josh
Allen had a perfect passer rating, I mean a perfect quarterback rating that day,
so you know what he did and and it you know, and the
best part about it is how and I averaged every one of his throws and
then obviously when he left the game, I didn't do this, but how
long do you think, on average it took him to get the ball out
of his hands. I'm going to say, oh god, two seconds,
yeah, say under two seconds yeah, two point one, two point one,
two point one. And I was skewed by one of the uh one
of the throws that he made where he rolled out and he held it for
five seconds and he still threw it down the field. I think that one
was to cook. I think wow on the net. Yeah, two point
one six seconds. It was out in tant was obviously the game plan,
but exactly what you wanted to see. And the lines did a good job
of keeping the passing, keeping the defensive line in their hands trying to slot
the ball down in the passing lane. But everything you wanted from Josh Allen
was great play action guys. Eleven plays playoffs, play action for sixteen yards
on average per play, three touchdowns playoff. Danski said they needed to do
that more last week. Yeah, but dan Orlowski also today said the best
quarterback in football Matthew Stafford. Right now. Matthew Yes, he said,
he said, right now today, Matthew Stafford. And and uh Steven A.
Smith look said him and he goes perfect that he uh no, he
said, what about Josh Allen? He probably did say, but then what
about Josh Allen And he goes, no, he goes he's and he said,
Stafford's getting rid of the ball in two seconds. That's why I said
Josh was probably similar, but he was if it was two point one,
then maybe the other guy's getting out a little faster. I don't know.
He just said that he was making unbelievable throws. This is the best.
He's had more yards this season than I think any season in his career,
or maybe since the beginning of his career when he was obviously much younger.
So I don't know. I don't know what that means. He thinks that
once the team is all back together, because I think Cooper is not part
of the Rams right now, nice once they come back, that once he
comes back, that maybe things will really turn around for that offense. I
don't know. I like the Bills, But Danny was saying before that he's
worried about this this week. But what do you think, you know,
as you see all that and then the Jags being over in London already for
the week, it's a little bit there. Yeah, I mean it's a
little bit of a disadvantage where they've been there for a while. And the
bills are just coming in. I can't remember when they leave. If they
left, they're there already. I hope they are. Yeah, I think
they left. Oh no, I think they leave to that they live today
today. Yeah, Well I get it long splight. It takes a little
while to get over that jet lag, you know, and then playing playing
a game at three third in the afternoon when it feels like nine point thirty
in the morning. To you, I don't know, that's going to be.
You've got to kind of with withstand all of the hype at the end
of the day on Sunday, because Jack's are going to feel like they've lived
there, and the bills are going to be, you know, the young
welcome guests. So it's gonna be. It's gonna be it's going to be
different for them, no question. Well, what would will show itself over
before course? I don't think so. But I think you'll see some lethargic
play, I think in the beginning of the game on Sunday, but nothing
really to concern ourselves with. To me, this kind of reminds me of
like when in spring when you spring ahead an hour on that Saturday to Sunday,
right hard. If the heart attacks go up by twenty three percent,
you know, accidents go up by twenty percent. And the Bills, Peter,
I mean in their history, going back to the Kelly years, when
the boys went out a big trip, the little guys and leave it the
little city, go to the big city of what happens. They're in awe
and they forget this is a business trip. And this team, and my
biggest complaint with Sean McDermott is that this team is always manages to lose focus
at the right time. And I think that's the only reason why I think
that Buffalo may lose this week. Did you put tell me you I picked
this? Yeah? I picked this on our picks, you picked the Jags.
I picked the Jags. I hope you go down. I hope you
hope I go down too, because I'll be happy either way. But I
gotta be right though I got unlike half of the media in Buffalo and Rochester,
just the Bills will win. Why Urry, Why does all this bitterness
going, Peter, have you noticed that it's not better for years? Doing
it for years? I love you, buddy, but I ain't seeing that.
I think they panned her to the audience, the fans. You can't
pan yet, tell the truth, be objective, be a homer. I
agree, I agree with that. I totally agree with what you're saying.
Thank you, I will say. And one thing that I was really surprised
with, really surprised, but it was pleas I was pleasantly surprised with their
run game. Now it wasn't off the charts a great run game, becauyse
they ran nineteen times between the tackles. Between the tackles, they ran nineteen
times, hardly ever to the perimeter. So they're trying to establish some strength
up front. And if cooked is a little bit better of a job hitting
the whole quick and not dancing around the back. There he meet in the
back in the back field a little bit. He needs to hit the whole
quick, hit exactly. He needs to hit the whole quick right now,
Peter, play action works any any casual fan. The running game is a
hell of a lot better than it was last season. Oh yeah, no
doubt. I mean that's why they actually worked so well. It does,
right, Yes, And I don't know the time of Bill's history where they
had three solid B plus running backs. You know the I mean I remember
Thurman and Kenny Davis. Obviously you know that we have Freddy and CJ.
Spoll. CJ. Spill would never go up the middle though, he'd always
go around like Ronnie Harmon. But now you know, it looks like you
have three decent running backs, I'm telling you. And it's you know,
obviously today's NFL. You got to run these guys through, you got to
platoon them out, and they're obviously performing for you. I just want to
see Cook do a little more on the backfield of getting to that line quicker
and not dancing around. He has to hit the whole little harder, but
he's doing a great job. But nineteen times between the tackles that that shows
me the offense like, wow, you know the coaches think we can drive
these guys off the ball, and you know, the offensive line. They're
not a bunch of climbers, right, they're not. They're not getting to
the second level quickly. They're not those guys. But they'll lean on you
and they'll open holes and and they're you know, having that type of appetite
for running. Betwe to tackles like that, it's gonna really really change the
Buffalo offense. As we get deeper into the season, what about one player
in particular who had a great game at over one hundred yards receiving. But
I did see a comment that you had sent to Dan, and Dan forwarded
the video to me, and I was like, yeah, I mean,
I don't know, I don't know how to say it because it's such a
tough game and you're running and doing all this, but at the same time,
every play, and I've always believed football more than any other sport,
everybody's got to do their job in order for that play to go off flawlessly.
I mean, you really need everyone committed in doing their job. And
no matter how sexy your job is running back, receiver, quarterback, to
how gross your job is, maybe you're just a blocking fullback. You know,
not a whole lot of fun, but super important. Tell us about
the guy who disappointed you a little bit. Well the Stefan days disappointed me
on that one play and a couple of plays. You know, not a
lot is a nitpicking. And I said then in the video, maybe,
but you know, as a as a as a former player, not in
the NFL, but a former player, and that I was coached by guys
who played at the next level. The old adage was you don't walk on
green. You don't walk on green, and I don't care where it is
in the game, in the game, And that was in fairness to him.
I look back at Okay, with the previous play that he had a
huge play. Did he, you know, have a thirty yard run?
Did he run a go route? No? So it was down by the
goal line. It was a handoff in the middle of the of the field
and Stefan Dick didn't even take a step off the line of scrimma ch after
the ball was snack and he looked inside and he starts walking towards the line
of scrimmage. He knew he wasn't part of the play, and he wasn't
and he would there's no value of him really doing anything. Right. However,
what if that ball had popped out the running back hands? Yeah,
and you could be there for those types of things and when you're not there,
you know that that it didn't happen. Right, So you're you're talking
about stuff that is you know, just it's hypothetical. But I want that
out of my players. I want every player, like I told you about
the defends how you're measured by the distance? Was team you win the baull
at the whistle? And that didn't That didn't look right. It wasn't a
good look for him, as well as he did, as good as he
played and his help hell of a player as he is, that was not
a good look. And I guarantee you the wide receiver coaches this week we're
getting we're getting after him. Okay, all right, Well, well we'll
see. Do you have a prediction for the game Sunday morning at nine thirty
where I'll be at bTB. I would say I'm going to say twenty four
to twenty one Buffalo. Wow, that's close. Yeah, twenty four to
twenty one one, don't I don't like. Yeah, it's it's a little
close. But I also thought I was dolphin. I was the same this
week that it would be thirty one twenty eight Buffalo versus the Dolphins. So
and obviously I was. I was wrong there. I was right with the
victory, but wrong with it spread. So I'll let the trend continue.
All right, Well, I appreciate it. Always good analysis. We have
a friend named Greg Connors who really enjoyed your analysis. Thought it was excellent.
Well, you know, as an Alfred guy, I think that that
is true. That is true. I bet I bet Greg once on the
Alfred Fisher. It was a courage ball game. Yeah, it was yep.
And I got an bottle of Jamison because Fisher came through, which he
drank like that week. I think I drank half the bottle that night night.
Yeahs he got me a bottle too. I didn't even know him.
Oh really, yeah, he got me a bottle of Jameson gold. Yeah.
Nice. Yeah, look at that. You drank that too. No,
I had a problem. Remember this week the key, the key this
week, Josh Allen gets the ball to your hands. Try to do better
than to one second. Yeah, go sub to this week. Let's see
what we can do it. That's a Brady used to do. That's how
we have a ring. Got hit. He did. He did real that
you can just you know, you think about how fast that is and the
accuracy and everything. It's unbelievable. Always gotta be in place in the route.
Yeah, and the routes, all the routes have to be run right.
Everybody knows, got to know. Everybody has to know where everybody is.
He's got another defense for the ball. Snap. There's a lot going
on. That's really that's really good luck to the Bills. All right,
Peter, thank you, enjoy the game. Thanks Bro, my pleasure.
You guys you too. See there he goes, wow, two point one
second, Dan, that's unbelieveable. There with a stopwatch and watch the games
and break them down, like how fast the ball? That's the first thing
he does, how fast the ball out of the quarterback's ants. Does he
want to coach somewhere at some point in his current role? He's done so
well. But I think if he, if he had an opportunity, Yeah,
yeah, I think he would come. Well. His kids are little,
yeah, real little, but he's coached before. But no, they're
like babies. No, No, does he have any sons? Oh yeah,
they're both so okay, it's two boys. Okay, I didn't know
if he had a daughter. Boy, I should ask that. Uh So,
then there's Rocco. There's a chance that he'll be coaching them. Yeah,
and then who knows. From there, you'll never get the whistle out
of his mouth. Bro, He'll be like, oh, he'll be a
touch. He's already a college football analyst down South. He does d two
games okay for a time Warner or Charter all right down there. He did
used to do Fisher football for years. Look at this. Uh, we
will take a moment. Tommy Burnett came into the studio earlier today to tell
us about the Hoochinani Festival happening at Geneseo in a couple of weeks and a
benefit for a guy who had called me from the hospital. And I kept
calling back saying, I, you know, hey man, I'd really like
to see you, is what he was saying to me. And then so
I was trying to find time. He kept saying, I maybe going in
for procedures. And then I've been trying to coordinate a time and then Tommy
told me there's a benefit this Sunday for him. Uh. And then he's
really been out of it. So I don't I don't know. But we'll
get into all that with Tommy Brunette next. However, the ode of craft
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I like Roger. My mother loves Rod Stewart, but I go his
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like Tom Waite songs, he made a hit because people could understand them.
Yeah, yes, I agree, I agree. I think this is
your kid on stage with you. It's a little like he's just a baby
sitting there. He used to get on stage. Yes, he's got a
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Gene Simmons and he I'd hold him in my arms and play guitar and sing
and he'd sing like Witch in the Woods, you know when I like to
sing with me. That's amazing. That's that's him. Wow. How cool
is that? So you got a lot of stuff going on, and uh,
tell me about this? Well? Yeah, but you know what,
I always find it if I find you inspiring. I was like, I
was like, I'm going through doing this stuff. I go, man,
there's a dude who just had an idea in his backyard and took it from
idea to fruition and improved to the rest of the world that your location has
become the hottest in probably the greater Rochester area. Yeah, I mean I
have to feel like you must think that. Yeah. When we came in,
there was nobody to hear. It was like there was there was some
people here like Damien's place and stuff, but there was you know, the
place where in this dessert was deserted. Literally we put on electricity and then
years later trip Hammer came in and now the biggest thing now is parking.
Yeah. Who would have thought of that? I know, right, who
would have thought of that? Exactly? I had to walk to you know,
did you walk here? And yeah I did. I saw you come
walk it in because I wonder if I kept looking for the iron smoke truck
to go buy. Yeah, hell on Wheels. Hell Wheels had a flame
jobs from a Hot Wheels car. Is I want this flame job? That
is so for my vehicle. So I love like cars and I love racing
and doing that kind of stuff. And I got into the show. Uh
god, I'm forgetting the actual name of it, but it's like Grease Monkey
Garage or something like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And they made like
they took a hot Wheels designed a car. They came to him said,
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And they took a life sized car and made a Hot Wheels car out of
it. It's the coolesting. Yeah, man, that's awesome. It is
awesome. So what's going on with the You got a festival going on,
and then I know a whole bunch of things happening down an Iron Smoke as
well. We'll start with the festival that's happening. Yeah, hoo Chinanni October
twentieth and October twenty first and Genesee on New York. Yeah, Fridays of
Best of the Finger Lakes, explosion of awesomeness. It's got like food and
wine and beers and awesome. We're gonna do Sam Grismin's bands playing there.
There's they got ties to Rochester, but he's from Nashville and he was the
guy from Crefeld Dead's son. Okay, and then Livecris Sisters and we're gonna
do a benefit for Katie Eberts, you know, Brian's wife, Katie Strong.
And we're gonna do like a silent auction for her. And in the
fifty to fifty Raffle, but it's going to be more like a pre party
to the festivities on Saturday first across the street from there, it's like it's
right in front of the College on Mate like at the end of Main Street,
a big open field. We're going to have a concert and a bourbon
experience that sixteen distilleries you can test taste their their wares for an extra ticket
and New York State Distillers, Distilleries Guilds and involved with that. And there's
a bunch of others, like there's there's bands playing. There's a fireside chat
within the bourbon village. It's called rick House Rendezvous. That's the bourbon village
that we have and you can learn from like our barrel makers coming are the
guy who makes the still? Are our stills that's the biggest maker of stills
in Kentucky. Vendome the owners coming to talk about so and are you doing
the interviews? I might be. I don't even know yet. Yeah,
but the fireside chat is where people can listen in and learn learn about from
guys from Kentucky and here. And then we have a full band line up.
Struts are headlining from England to get They had a big hit, and
then I'm playing Dennis Casey from Flogging Maley is gonna play with me and Andy
Kim from uh Rock Me Gently he's my buddy. He did a co write
with me, so he's gonna do that, and Sugar Sugar he wrote,
and so then there's other surprises I'm not gonna let you know about. But
then yeah, and then there's Public Water Supply, which is a great brand
from here, blowing up Sam grismin project. I was talking about the guy's
bluegrass and then Loose Straight Jackets from Nashville and they wear the Mexican wrestling masks
to the place. They're amazing dude on the Tonight Show and they're a big
deal. But I wanted to the whole overlying theme is bringing tourism and celebrating
the Finger Lakes, bringing tourism here, celebrating all the good art culture,
booze, culinary and giving it up a center to build off of over the
years. Yeah, and then this is your brainchild. Yeah. I came
up with the like the name and they're all metic. Google can't figure it
out because the hooton Nanny, I'm like, no hoo chin Nanny and yeah,
but you know, I always make stuff that's weird. But but that's
the other overlying theme is cultivate the uncommon, you know, like when you're
making something, we like to bring stuff that into existence that didn't exist before.
So we're trying to do that with who Chinani. We'll see, you
know, and grow it. I love that whole idea because when when you
think of the finger Lakes, right, We've got all the wineries, the
distilleries, breweries, food that's popping up around there. It's it's become I
thought, and like traveling leisure was one of the top ten destinations in the
world for summer travel. It is, and this is a beautiful time of
year down there, yeah, right perfect. Yeah. And Geneseo so it's
a giant field, big tents, the whole thing. Big tents, we
got stagest, a big stage, we got a big bourbon activations, another
tents, and it's so beautiful down there. I'm not that's familiar with Genesee,
but I've driven through a bunch because I go to like the Empire Dragway
down there. Oh and uh, there's a you always drive through Geneseo and
it's beautiful. Yeah, And they give us the most support out of the
gate. Like there we went to Geneva and everywhere else, everything's cool,
It'sica, they're great. Yeah, but Geneseo came forth with the most support.
And then with our long term vision, if we can get it to
like instead of like two or three thousand and and really rip it this year
and make it a great experience, maybe down the down the road we can
move it down to the airfield and then you can put one hundred thousand people
in. Wow. So there's a method to the madness for Geneseo as well.
And it's easy to get to. It's like twenty minutes from it.
You know, it's right down the road. Quick down three ninety and you're
and you're right there from our area. That's awesome, man, I love
that you've got these ideas. But again it was like the same time the
last time you came in. There's no no with you. And I know
that sounds funny, but like I think most people put resistance in their path,
and I go, I've never met a dude who just goes, yeah,
let's just do it and then just does it. And it's not even
like, well, we got to figure out how well we'll figure out how
as we do. Because if you, because I swear to God, you
start thinking about ship and you'll go, Wow, how we're gonna get the
permits and who's gonna come? And how do we get this guy? And
the next lot? Yeah, there's a lot. But when you just go
and do it, it happens, and then people go, holy shit.
Man, I'm telling you, dude, you need to write a book beyond
just how to be how to be fucking cool and live? I know,
I know, and I know you're running around a lot today. You also
have I know you mentioned the the Lipker Sisters. Yeah, I think they're
playing this weekend too, right at Saturday night. I think they're playing Saturday.
Yeah, at at Iron Smoke Distillery. But you've got something going on
Sunday. And this is great because the Bills game is at nine o'clock in
the morning. I know, so you've got this is a great is it?
Afternoon? I was like, I thought, I you know, nine
o'clock. I had a vision of me having some beers at nine am and
watcher and I can't now because I've committed to playing from Paul Dellella's Yeah,
his charity event for him, and Paul's a great guy. I used to
have Backstreets I think years ago. Streets is huge. Yeah, that was
all Paul. And then I've known Paul Moore, you know, doing a
lot of the state stuff. He did a lot of things with I think
the Park at Fest and then certainly Party in the Park. Yeah, you
smell diesel and you see Paul at a show. He's out back, you
know, making things work. Yep, and he I know he's been in
kind of a rough shape. Really this is so what time will this start?
I believe it starts at one and then ends at eight. We're in
at five point thirty. We have a special guest performer and I don't know
if I can say who it is, but he's got probably fourteen hits as
a hint, four fourteen globile hits. Yeah, global hits. So you
guys figured out. I don't know. I hope I can go and get
in trouble, but I don't. I don't think because I think he's got
another show close to this one. So I'll leave it at that. But
the main thing is coming out as a community, Like when when we're supporting
our friend Katie even it's on that Friday night at Iron Smoked Thing, the
Huch and any we gotta support Paul and take care of each other, and
there'll be silent auctions, they'll be great music. Everybody's going to know each
other there. It's like a community of musicians and just people in the entertainment
space and just people are fans of music that went to backstreets or went to
all those shows. Sure you did Darien Lake for a while, you Yeah,
you did a bunch of all that stuff. Wow, that's that's you.
I think that the way you have done things is the right way.
I think a lot of times, you know, people used to be and
it's I see it as almost a global thing now. They used to keep
things close to the vest, not share ideas, not do that stuff.
And I'm seeing now more of this openness with people and just going hey,
you know, go ahead and try it yourself, and I'm here to help
you. And I saw it with you know, your buddies over at Roorbach.
I remember sitting with people from Young Lions saying, yeah, I sat
with John from Warback and he just helped me. And I'm like, that's
Tommy Burnett that's the whole thing. It's insane how much of that is going
on in our city. Yeah, it doesn't happen. People that's you.
I'm going to ruin you, yes exactly. And everybody's like going, hey,
yeah, but here it's it's a change. And I feel like philosophy
and I go, boy, you've been one of those people all along.
You do it with music, you do with community stuff and all this shit,
and the only thing I can say is it all seems to work for
you. So why isn't everybody doing that? Then yeah, we'll see Yeah,
yeah, it's it's it's it's kind of infectious though when you start doing
it, because as we grow as a community, Like there's people that sat
me down and went, i'm going to tell you about ten things that you're
gonna make a mistake with that I made and I don't. I'm not gonna
let you do it. So if we keep passing that forward and saying and
supporting each other with everything we're doing and share knowledge and share ideas, and
it doesn't always work out. There's people that hate meet, there's people that
love me, you know, but I don't it just happens, Yeah,
probably, No, it's but it's it's everybody like this, like you.
We got a call to action. We gotta support who Chin Nanny and and
go out and buy tickets and support something where you can get them. There's
a pop up on Iron Smoked Distillery dot com because we're presenting it, but
there's also hoo Chinnany dot com with ch and if hoo chin any genneseea,
it'll start popping up. But it's easy to find Iron Smoke Distillery and just
click the link that pops down when you hit it, and there's tickets available.
They are going up to forty nine dollars general admission on Friday, So
if you're thinking about going, get them, get them now thirty nine bucks.
If you want to give a pair away, I don't know if you
do that on the show, we'll do we'll do that, and then you
know that that's there's different levels. There's a VIP package for both days.
If you want to hang out for two days, there's one vi P thing
for Saturday, one vi P think for Friday, and then there's general admission.
And then on top of general admission, you have to pay for an
entrance into the rick House. Okay, the different. Yeah, and there's
a it's like a big party. You're going to throw a ripper, you
know. I love it. Your whole life is party. Never. Party
was never so hard before, was it? Oh my god? Yeah,
today is so hard. Oh my god. I was wrestling with the you
know, you get wrestling with the kids in the morning and trying to sort
that out. And then I've been lucky to do some some fun promotional stuff
today. And then I just got out of a sales meeting. I'm going
to the Fairport Music Fest. They have another meeting already. Yeah, they
got ready for tonight, you know. And then my last meetings of dinner
meeting at the Lago. Look at this. Yeah, with the Empire distribution,
guys, I can't complain. No, just keep moving. Yeah,
but it's all and it all started with an idea. That's the coolest thing,
man. Just follow through on those ideas. Yeah. Most I always
say, you know what I always say, dumber guys than us did it?
Yeah? You know, someone started what stuck? Someone started? You
know, anything? Campbell soup. Some guy went, you know, I
don't know, get Ray Crock, What the hell I want? I like
this burger? Yeah, you know, you're absolutely right, But I mean
most people just like I'm saying, go on, I don't know how to
do it. No one knew how. And the greatest thing is when you
enter into anything, there are no rules. Make them up as you go.
That's right, there are no rules because everybody's going to put rules in
your way. So yeah, but that's you. Yeah, there's this rules
or just everybody's like, I'm gonna have the biggest selling small backs bourbon in
New York State. And we did it, and now it's one of the
most fastest growing and highly awarded small batch bourbons in the world right now.
And it's just like when I first started. They're like, hey kid,
I've been in the business for you know, you got three hundred cases.
It'll take you thirty five you know, thirty five three inner cases. It'll
take you a year to sell them. A week and a half later,
they're like, we need more. It's all gone. You know. How
does the peanut butter sell it? Oh, that's doing great. It's the
season two and the pumpkin pies out. The pumpkin Pie is amazing and that's
out right now only limited release, and that that stuff, all that you
can buy I mean, you can buy it anywhere, but you can buy
at the distillery too. Yeah, you can, or or recurage to go.
You can do it online if you're listening elsewhere in the country, yeah,
fifty two states online. But you encourage people to go to the liquor
stores and support them because it's always a little bit more and iron smoked buy
then you know, I won't name a name, but any of this.
Look, liquor stores are there great partners, so we price everything higher there
on purpose. Really yeah, so they go into the liquor stores. But
if you're it's a convenience thing. If you're up, you bring from some
front of town, they want to buy a shirt and this, and yeah,
yeah, well yeah I go with you. Yeah, but no,
but I see that even that I love because the idea isn't I want you
to go over here and support them. Again, it's the community, right,
Well that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't see people think that
way. Yeah, it's I guess. So yeah, And then they said,
like, what do you mean you guess so like a hippie man,
I'm not. Well, I know I know you're not, but I'm saying
it's that kind of you know what the term is like. You can either
come from I always think there's two things fear or love. Yes, right,
so you can fear everybody else and be guarded with your ship or you
could be like Tommy Burnett and basically loving without you know, you got boundaries.
It's shit so hard sometimes, yeah, but sometimes you're just like you
get so mad at somebody, and you get so enraged sometime with somebody and
you come close to just telling them how you feel, and you take a
breath and put yourself in their shoes and go check myself. What did I
say to make them react like this? Or is there are they have another
problems, they have others, something going on that's nothing to do with you.
Yeah, but there's there's fuses like just nubbed. It's like a little
spark going gona. Well, I mean yeah, everybody gets that way.
There's just a bunch of stuff like no means like you said, no means
asking me another way, not no, I'm fine. Yeah no, people
say no too easy? Yeah. Yeah, they want you know that,
that's the whole thing, right, They do want you to work at it,
and you're right, But you got to find the way to speak to
people and sometimes, you know, you also have to have I think a
purpose, like you know, like, hey, my whole thing is to
build a better community and that's the overdriving thing here and we're doing that through
bourbon and bringing people together and supporting other businesses and doing all that. That's
way different than just selling a bourbon. Yeah. I talked to Jen about
that too. I'm like my wife and I'm like, the more we can
make, the more we can help. Yeah, does that makes sense?
Like, just the more we can help the community because we're always giving stuff
back. We do count charity events, even if from the zoo to the
all the way down to someone a getting a bad call from a doctor.
Come on in. Yeah, we'll give you some scratch from the bar if
you bring people in and we'll give you you know, we'll let you lose
the room and bring your friends in and get some money out to help you,
because that should be the last thing you're worried about with. Yeah.
Well, it's funny because somebody I forgot that. This guy comes on the
show. He's a comedian and he does a lot of work with local breast
Cancer found Action he puts on a golf tournament, he puts on a bowling
thing to raise money, and he's raised lots of money over the years.
And he said to me, hey, you know Tommy Burnett and said,
yeah, he goes You think he donat And I said, I'm sure he
would. And he wrote a note. I forgot it was there. Tommy
sat down and goes, oh, yeah yeah, and I look over I
cook, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we're in. Yeah. I
don't even know who dougles, No, I know, And I think he'd
really like him if you if you met him. All right, sure hoo
chin Nanni is October twentieth and twenty first YEP, Okay, Gennese New York
and Geneseo. And then this weekend, great stuff happening all weekend at Iron
Smoke, this Dellery, Tom Preddy Petty project is we're recording that. I
believe that's tonight. I really like those guys smoke. Yeah. And then
you've got the Paul Della charity fundraiser on Sunday, YEP fundraiser and somebody who
has fourteen hits yeah, coming to play. I think twelve or fourteen at
least. That's just that's a lot. I know, it's a double album
full of hits double Oh you know, I think I actually don't but I
think I got it. But anyway, Yeah, this is it's so good
seeing you man, and I'm so happy for your success. Well you know,
you showed him what you can do and bellow fight. It's blown up
and it was blown up. And I appreciate all the support, and uh,
thank you very much. And we will make sure that we get people
out to Hooch and Annie and over to iron Smoke and to get some of
that pumpkin pie. The rosies. Uh is a pumpkin pie, rosies,
a pump Rosie's rosies, pumpkin pie. But you got the You got a
lot of different stuff to work with, Tom right, and then Hoochin Nannie
Uh in coming up in a couple of weeks here in October in Geneseo.
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right, which, by the way, that was debunks. She did not
die of a joking of a ham sandwich. She had a heart attack.
Deputy Hurley of the Monroe County Sheriff's Department is on the line. Would that
fall into the heading of harassment in any way calling him a tell him the
f off? Uh? It's not a direct threat, okay, but it
definitely could cause alarm. Yeah, I kind of. I was curious who
who was laughing in the background. He Danny was. I was, yeah,
yeah, I'm the laughing machine. Danny was laughing at his own Uh,
somebody going after me. I was laughing, being ripped, being ripped
apart. I am no, no, no, someone laughing in the background
of the guy. No, that was Danny. Uh, I'd see and
I and I know this is not why you're you're here to talk to us,
but lots of things that we don't really realize the Sheriff's Department deals with
because it's the entire county, So it's anything that's happening in different towns that
even if the town has its own police force. I would think that the
Monroe County Sheriff's may be part of some of the investigations. I don't know
if you're involved in the man who's accused of recording people in the restroom at
a Low's in Webster. Oh, it was a Lows. I didn't heard
that part. I saw the original press release. You know. I cringed
like most people do, just at the thought of what was going on.
But I was expecting to go home depot too. Cringed even more because they
went loads. What are you getting in loads? And I mean was it
in the toilet section? Was it in theom? I think it was in
the restroom. Yeah. Man is charged with allegedly recording at least two people
who were using a public restroom. By the way, doesn't say if it's
male or female, you know, could be You never know what those ones,
right, I mean, it all depends on the camera angle. How
do you how do you identify the victim? That makes me think of the
old movie Porky's right, that's going back the angle. That's I think the
big The big news this past week and and disturbing news was about the nine
year old girl down in the state park in the Albany area UH being taken
right off her bicycle. Uh, it almost feels like that family was targeted
because I believe, and maybe I have the story wrong, this person who
looked like he was a little loft from the mugshot, had left a ransom
note in their mailbox, and so he was picked up by a fingerprint.
Yeah, that's the story I heard so far. Yeah, not a lot
of details out completely on this one. Okay, you've probably heard as much
as I have so far. But I mean, every parent's worst nightmare,
right, your kid goes around the block on the bike and doesn't come back,
and now it's a bad scramble for where are they? Where did they
go? Initial reports they found the news said that they found the bike,
I think, yeah, but never found the bike, helmet or the daughter.
And then everything that you sent. The ransom note was put in the
mailbox and they discovered a fingerprint from a previous arrest. They matched it up
through the system and they found out where he was and they found her in
a cupboard, Yeah, in a cupboard and stuffed her in like a pantry
or something like that. But the like, how did he know? Like
I mean, I don't know if these people were of means meaning money,
I don't know, but it was kind of strange because she had ridden the
bike around this camp area of a couple of times and then boom, and
then he knew how to find them because he went to their home and got
to their mailbox. I don't know if he was eating chicken wing when he
wrote the letter or something. But the fingerprint thing, I mean, it
almost can you see like if you look at the guy's much shot, I'm
sorry, he looks like he might have some grease under his finger now is
he might, you know, be doing some wrenching or something. And I
remember my buddy's dad, who ran a garage. Sometimes he'd be helping with
the homework and he'd leave a big thumb print. Yeah, you know,
my uncle's worked on the railroad. Their hands were dark in a big thumbprint
right there. Yeah. So I don't know what that was, but I
know that the Monroe County Sheriffs were doing some some tips for people. I
feel like, and maybe I'm wrong, Deputy Hurly, but I always feel
like, when these cases do happen, we need to point out how rare
stranger abduction is. For sure, it's not something that happens every day,
and It's one of those things where when something tragic like this happened, it
does remind everybody that it can happen, right, And it's almost like that,
you know, kicking the pants of oh my gosh, this really does
happen, you know, And in ways it could be good for kids too
because instead of us as parents calling your kids all the time, hey,
this can happen, This can happen. Yeah, now they're kind of seeing
it too. But you also have to be careful because we don't want them
to be paranoid and afraid to go outside. So it's tough that you try
to give tips. We by no means are we are we shaming the victims
or the parents. It's just a friendly reminder of just ways that you can
try to keep your kids safe. You know. Some of those tips where
there's these there's tracking devices essentially right you get the AirPods, there's there's all
these GPS tracking devices for kids with it, you can put them on their
on their clothes, on their bike, you know, whatever you're comfortable with.
You gotta be careful with these things because anytime you talk about that stuff,
you start getting into the big brother and people you're in the track and
everybody, and they're watching everybody's movements. But in these of your kids you're
talking about, you're putting a device on your kids. Yeah, and quickly.
I just I think it's more important just to have communications, right.
Everybody should have a fire plan. You know, something happens in our house,
what do we do? Where do we meet up? Right? And
it's the same thing. So if you go to an amusement park, you
go to a concert, you go to a bills game. If we get
separated, where do we go, where do we meet up? Right?
What section are we sitting? And it's important to have these conversations with kids
because you can get lost, you can get separated. Yeah. I always
think when you said the big Brother thing, and I was thinking, you
know, they got this guy on a fingerprint for what was a prior dwy
or rest or something like a couple of years ago, and so they had
that information. And when you hear it's almost it's like old school Sherlock Homes,
right, that we catch a guy on that we have a clue nowadays,
yeah, right, But nowadays there's so much technology, it's very I
don't know. I would love to know the average time that most Americans are
on a camera throughout a day, some kind of surveillance camera, ring doorbell,
all these things. They had your laptop, right, But I do
wonder this, and I don't know how you feel about it. I almost
feel like, because it's a big brother, like should there be a thing
where everybody's fingerprint is on file or DNA or some I don't know, something
like that, because what we're starting to see now is AI. Now we
haven't gotten to AI where it could be, but you could eventually they make
it seem like they being the proverbial I don't know doomsdayers, but somebody you
could make it sound like. With AI, you can now duplicate a voice.
You could have people call. I think Tom Hanks was just out saying
this is not me. In whatever footage is out there, would be very
aware of AI, and we're seeing all kinds of things that are sort of
scary. The next thing would be to take it into our everyday life,
three D life. So now you get a robot that I can make look
like Danny, and I can have it go commit a crime. But if
it doesn't leave any DNA, and I've got Danny's DNA on file. I
feel like if it's almost a way to exonerate people. But I think people
would freak out if you said it had to start giving your DNA to the
government. I mean, we didn't like it when we had a lineup for
shots from the government. So I don't know, it's just a theory.
Yeah, I mean, was it about a year ago somewhere in there.
I remember seeing all over social media they had they did a podcast. They
I don't know exactly who it was, but they did a podcast of Joe
Rogan and it wasn't him. They did They did a full podcast and they
ai the guests and everything. They can get these you know, I'm not
a huge computer nerd, but you know they get these clips, these bits,
and then they can just rehip, you know, replicate you completely,
and you know you've got a visual and an image of Danny ham Sandwich right
right, Like Lex Friedman just interviewed Zuckerberg on his podcast, and Zuckerberg's taking
him through the metaverse and they put on the glasses and then you see replicated
images a Lex Friedman and Zuckerberg having a conversation outside the actual conversation they're really
having and goes this is what the metaverse can be like, and it's like,
it's scary. Yeah, it's ridiculous. They look like it's like they're
just sitting there. Yeah. Now long before in politics you now have someone
running for office saying a slur or heeling from a store or you know things.
Well, this is the thing is. Then the farious side of this
is really bad because I've been basically saying in business in life, you're not
putting that genie back in the bottle, So try to embrace it and use
it as a tool if you can, to enhance whatever you do. But
on the other side, there is the the the genie says that are going
to use it for bad reasons, you know, and that that's kind of
scary. It is scary if you can all of a sudden say, we've
got footage of you being at what such and such a place and a crime
was committed afterwards, and we've got your foot and it's not you, it's
an AI dubbed in who knows what. That's why I'm saying, get the
DNA on file. That just puts up another Pandora's do anything now I can
prove it, I know. Yeah, yeah, but there's order all the
guys that Kamala Harris put in uh in jail in California, that oh they
were innocent. Oh crap, we're gonna let them out. No, I
mean, like, I mean, it's ridiculous. Oh they had DNA,
well they had the wrong DNA and stuff like that. I mean, it's
just it's a slippery slope. I get what you're saying. Yes, I'm
just saying a way to try to keep idea. Give all our kids a
collar like a dog. Give them collars. That way they're gonna tag you
know, vaccinations, everything's on the collar. They can take the collar off
when you've done, or or you could kind of be like me, uh,
Deputy Hurley, just assume nothing bad is going to happen and go about
living your life the way you're going to live your life. God's one little
girl way down. Stay to have it. What's the last time? Because
I do believe what we while most abductions, I think majority are like I
think it's referred to and forgive me for the term, but incestual, meaning
that it's somebody they know, not not that it would be for incestral reasons,
but if somebody they know, whether it be a close family friend or
that they are comfortable with, or a parent. Sometimes if there's a divorce
and a custody issue, where those are I mean amber alerts and things go
out, But they're not what we saw down in Albany, which is complete
stranger abduction. Yeah, And I think in the times that we live in
now, and with the education that we have and what we're teaching kids,
kids aren't just going to willingly go with a stranger anymore. The old you'll
pull up an old white van with attended windows and ask about your puppy or
if you want some candy. That's not working anymore. So yeah, I
think that's fair to say that most of these. And you're spot on with
the parent. Right when it's a custodial thing and one of the parents takes
I was like, of course the kid's going to go with a parent,
right, especially in this right, this is a this is a heart.
There's tons of people. If someone just pulls up and tries to grab this
young girl, you would think she's gonna scream, she's gonna kick, someone's
gonna hear something. I haven't heard that part. It happened but you know,
it's hard because there's still a lot of unknowns in this money. But
yeah, I mean typical fashion, you're going to have that someone's going to
hear something and you're really going to be alerted to it. You know,
it's always unfortunate, is like, Because as you're saying this, and I
haven't really looked into this story much at all, I did see Governor Hulkle
speaking about it, and I knew she was the one of found her.
It was it's national news and it's it and and certainly something that I think
is a lot of people's worst nightmare. I haven't heard of really stranger abduction
in a long time. But again, like the deputy said, it's not
that it can happen, but it does make you all of a sudden go
what were they doing? Was what was going on? There was there some
kind of inside job, like he knew where they lived, he knew where
they'd be. He she wasn't really harmed, she just had to standing in
like a pantry for a while. And you know, I don't know,
I mean, I don't want to make it. But as you're saying,
not many details have gotten out, and look to your point, every kid
is told I have told this story over and over. My son, who's
now twenty one. He and his brother are sixteen months apart, so they're
picture him like three and four. I'm at Seneca Park Zoo by myself.
I don't I think their mom. I don't know what she was doing.
I one of them. I'm trying to gather them up to leave, right
but they're active little boys. One of them decides to run into this tunnel
where you get to be a gopher and just sit in the middle because he
knows it's time to leave, and I got to try to get him out,
and he keeps popping his head out to see if I'm chasing him.
And this woman I work with who didn't really know my kids, said I'll
watch Jordan. Jordan is now twenty one, so this is we're going back
like when he was like three or four. And this so as a woman
I worked with who he didn't know. And he's on this giant ice spur
because it's supposed to be like an iceberg, is climbing and she walks over
and goes, hi, Jordan, how are you? And I'm telling you,
man, it was like Satan came out of that kid. He comes
bellowing, hey, lady, get away from me. You're scaring me,
and like everybody in the fucking park, deputy just stopped and bros and churned
this poor woman like she was three shades of purple. I go running back,
Jordan, it's fine. Is like I got him under one arm.
I'm trying to get the other guy out of the gopher home. It was
a nightmare and all I need. But so to your point, you would
think that this young lady would probably have done something similar right at nine.
You certainly have probably been told in school or by your parents or a relative.
You know. It sounds like the last pub crawl. Yeah, the
last when they got into an argument. Checks and Jordan, Yeah, not
not much has changed with my son. By the way, here you're go.
No, I was gonna say, I don't know, but as you're
saying, not much has come out. So it'll be interesting to see.
Yeah, I want to know what happened. I do too, and I
think, and I want to know before the Lifetime movie. That's what I
want to know. I want Elizabeth smart situation where we got like ten years
to figure this out and all of a sudden. You know, Claire Danes
is playing Elizabeth Smart. Now I want to know what happened now. Sorry,
well, it's hard because this is something that strikes you to your court.
Like we've said before, this is this is the absolute nightmare of every
parent, right, and anything with kids, even if it's not your kid.
It just gets your attention and pulls on your heartstrings and we all want
to know more. Right, It's just human nature. I want to know
what happened in the world we live in now, if everything's at our fingertips,
I want to know what happened. You know. I've heard media asking,
you know, was there any kind of sexual assault? Stuff like that,
But you don't have to remember a nine year old girl on the other
end of the story, right, who is probably traumatized, right, I
mean horribly traumatized, more than we can even think about. And now every
detail that comes out is something that's going to live forever, you know,
And you said the Elizabeth Smart thing, right, she not only lived through
this event, but she's gonna have to live through the media coverage, she's
going to have to live through the lifetime movie, she's gonna have to live
through all that that was at some point. Yeah, that was cestuous too,
as a family. People are working for the family. Yeah, yeah,
people who knew for sure. Yeah, because usually it's people that the
kid would know. Otherwise you get the hey lady, you're scared me,
get away from me at the top of its lungs, which, by the
way, like I'm embarrassed, and uh, some other parents going, oh
no, no, that's very good that your kid did that. Right,
Oh, yeah, that's right. It's awesome. That's really awesome. But
it was, it was awesome, and I think, I mean, as
a deputy, you have young kids, what do you tell the kids?
Your children all the same stuff? Right, if if you don't know who
that person is, you don't go with them. You yell, you scream,
yeah, you know, you kick your fight, You look for somebody.
And if you're in a store, yeah you look, you look for
someone who works there. You make as much noise as you possibly can.
And yeah, the biggest thing is don't be out of eyesight from mom or
from dad, be with us, pay attention, don't go wandering off.
And look kids do right, they do that stuff. You know, it's
funny. You made me think about it. Speaking of embarrassment. Right,
we all understand what it's like to have to carry one of your young ones
out of the store kicking and screaming. Yeah yeah, yeah, like you
are kidnapping. You got it, So mind your own business. Yeah,
no, I have. I have some relatives who have a much darker skin
tone than me who have had their kids kicking and screaming, and their kids
have a much lighter skin tone than they do, and people are giving them
all kinds of looks as a black guy's running out with this light skinned kids.
But it's his dad, you know what I mean. But instantly people
go into the worst case scenario, and sometimes depending on your skin pigmentation,
it can be a little different. You know that is it is an embarrassing
moment for sure. Well, I hope you get to have a relaxing,
quiet weekend. And I do wonder does crime drops the weather gets a little
cold. I mean we're supposed to have like almost a thirty degree temperature swing
here. I'm just wondering does crime drop a little bit? Do you get
at your shootings? Is it like out of season so to speak? Right?
Crimes out of season? And when it gets colder, I don't know,
well, I think it's it's like everything else, right, nobody wants
to be outside when it gets real cold. I don't think this drop's going
to change too much. But you know, once the snow's flelling and it's
minus ten, nobody's outside. They don't. They're not trying to go through
cars and walking through neighborhoods in that weather as much. But yeah, weather
does have an effect. You know, you don't see as much of that
kind of crime when it's raining out. You know, again, nobody wants
to be out in the rain and getting wet. I'll kill you tomorrow.
Get we have all the keyas and Hyundai has been stolen in Rochester? Are
there any left that we can? You know? Still we haven't any more
of those problems. It just feels like I'm hearing less and less about it.
I don't know. Uh, yeah, I think that's slowed down.
I wouldn't say it's stopped. Yeah, I don't want to challenge anybody.
That's not what I was on my point. We just put out a great
video, you know, great as in surveillance and hopefully getting these people identified.
Not a great situation, but it's an apartment complex and time field and
you see the car pull ups, four people jump out, they go through
the complex. They're going through every the comments they're pretty funny, but it's
crime of opportunity, right, they're not smashing windows, uh, they're they're
looking for unlocked car doors. They're going through cars that are unlocked, grabbing
change, cigarettes anything. People leaving their cars. We you know, constantly
are asking people please please please don't leave valuables inside cars. Don't leave your
laptops, your jewelry is, your wallets, firearms, anything like that.
Don't leave any of that stuff in your cars. Make sure your cars are
locked. It's a pretty simple thing. Steroids. I mean, you know,
even lying to your car. Now, you know what it is.
Pushing a button over your shoulder, pointing it over your shoulder as you walk
into your door. Click, click, yep. Done. That's it.
It really is. It's a habit. Right every night before I go to
bed, I walk by my front door, I reach up, I grab
the fob, I hit the horn. I know the car's locked. Yeah,
it's getting into that habit at eight o'clock, nine o'clock at night.
There's social media posts for it, reminders just it's getting into that habit,
just to make sure. Because we're human, we got kids, we got
things going on. We forget. You come back from a trip, You're
not thinking about it. You're just happy to be home. You know,
a load the car, you forget out. Something's in the glove box.
Too bad, I forgot about it. You know. Just make a habit.
Try to make it a habit every night, just making sure everything's locked
up. Yeah. In other words, to help the police out. My
son of the person put the marker over the kias symbol the somebody else will
keith. They put a T over the eye like key t a's if it's
a different car. I got a KitKat ya, don't steal mine. Oh
well, Deputy Hurley, always a pleasure, Thank you for making time for
us, and good information as always anytime. Thanks for having me, guys,
Thank thank you sir. There you go to the Monroe County Sheriff's Departments.
Deputy Hurley, always good stuff. Danny, any big plans for the
weekend. We're gonna be watching the game, buddy. So I'm looking at
going back home to see my brother. My brother's flying up for a wedding
from Tampa. So I'm I'm thinking about going to have breakfast with him,
watch the bills nice, so yeah, that'll be good. And then tomorrow
night I'm thinking about taking the wife out to Forest Hills where our friend Doug
Phelps works. Awesome, nice little dinner. That's very cool. I got
demand that I get. Doug Phelps is my my server. He's at the
bar. He's a bar, he's a bar sender. As long as there's
TV's there, I'm good to sit at the bar. Yeah. I think,
uh, that'd be fun. Yeah, that's that. That could be
fun. I think that I will be instructing boxing on Saturday morning, and
I think my son Jordan is gonna come with me. Oh cool. Yeah,
And because he called me up, he's got I don't know, somebody's
turning twenty one and they're gonna be partying in Fairport. And he goes,
can I crash your police? And I said, yeah man? And uh,
he goes, what are you doing Saturday? You want to grab lunch
or something? I I got boxing? Can I come? I go,
sure, bring your bring your bags, show off your gun. Jordan loves
to show off in these classes too, because oh sure he does. He's
pretty jack. Why wouldn't he all? I had him doing like push I
had people doing mountain climbers on a bosu upside down, right, and then
three push ups. So all of a sudden, I hear, Oh,
why gosh, that's so impressive. I look over. It's Jordan. He's
pushing himself off the bow sue, clapping his hands, coming back down and
doing a push up for old ladies. They love it. Yeah, cougar
hunter, where's the pathroom? But that starts talking like the macho Oh yeah,
I do one hundred push ups in a minute, and then I may
head out to be TV on Sunday to watch the game. Yeah, the
Eleventor is letting met to open up early. That's right, let's go.
Let's get those uh buy one, get one Bloody Mary's, Mimosa's Breakfast Pizza
to go Buffalo the Dog Baby. That's right, Markel, I'm gonna be
there. Yeah, of course he will be. Yeah, I'm sure all
right, and we'll get to make fun. It's always fun. Have a
great weekend, go Buffalo, and we'll see you Monday. I will hold
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