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This is Beer in Front, part
of the Odd Pods Media Network. Sometimes

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the beer in front of you is
the best one yet. I'll talk about

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some old school beers that maybe you've
forgotten about, some new beers that have

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the potential to be a classic.
I'll also talk to various people around the

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beer world and get their stories all
about beer. That's Beer in Front,

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and it's coming up now. Welcome
to episode one hundred and eighty four,

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the October twenty third edition of Beer
in Front. I'm your host, Dave

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Zalatorus, and Beer in Front is
a proud Odd Pods Media Network member.

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On the show, this week,
I'll talk with Ray Stout, the executive

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director of the Illinois Craft Brewers Guild, about the upcoming festival of Barrel aged

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Beers and the ill Diversity in Brewing
scholarship. Last week there were two episodes

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out. I put one on Sober
October Choices. I had that out last

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Friday, so catch that if you
have time. I'm taking next week off

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from the podcast my package shot.
I have some issues with my L four

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and L five vertebrae, and hopefully
this week I can get some steroid and

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pain injections to get this better.
That plus a new round of physical therapy

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makes me think I'm going to be
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and talk beer. So the next
episode of Beer in Front will come out

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on Tuesday, November seventh, and
I'll have a full recap of the Faux

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Bab festivities in Beer News. This
week, Revolution is canning their old time

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premium Logger. You'll be able to
pick this up at the tap room and

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brewpub. Bells will expand its oberonline
with new Shandy flavors, and that should

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probably be out. I'm going to
guess next summertime. Goose Island is coming

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out with Last Call. This will
be a thirty fifth anniversary English bidder,

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and according to the label that I
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is going to be the final brew
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at the Assaults. Sheet Mad Hatter, the iconic IPA from New Holland is

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back. You could pick it up
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Midwest distribution to start early next year. And finally, Whole Food said that

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the non alcoholic category it's growing by
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right now It's the number three category
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Right. The Festival of Barrel Aged
Beers is right around the corner. This

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year, it will be held on
November third and fourth at the UIC Credit

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One Arena. Joining Me Again is
raced out the executive director of the Illinois

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Craft Brewers Guild. Ray, thanks
for coming on again. Hey, thanks

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for having me back. I'm I
think I'm officially a third timer at this

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point. Yeah, I know.
I think I need to send you a

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business card swag. At least need
to send you a shirt or something.

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This is the twenty first edition,
so Foe Bab is legal. It's the

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world's largest and most prestigious festival for
barrel aged beers, going back to the

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original one at the old rock Bottom. Did you ever imagine that it would

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be this big. I don't think
anybody imagined it would be this big.

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You know when this was started originally
by Pete Crowley, now owner of Haymarket

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Brewing in the West Sloop, while
he was at rock Bottom and a couple

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of other like minded people. It
was held on April Fool's Day for the

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first time, and people thought it
was a joke because nobody has heard about

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this style of beer, and so
they put out a pretty wide net,

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and you know, they ended up
getting some pretty great beer. Sam Adams

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sent a five gallon bucket of utopia, and so you know, they received

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some pretty ridiculous beers, and you
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grown since then. So we're now
we're at the Credit Union one Arena,

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which is about as big as a
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United Center in Chicago. Are tickets
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for this year? Absolutely? So
tickets are available on phoebab dot com,

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so foba b dot com. You
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that if you are interested in going
to phoebab probably buy the tickets sooner rather

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than later, because we cap sales
to keep it intentionally intimate there. Cool,

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Yeah, so definitely, and I'll
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but yeah, pick up tickets to
fae bab. When most people think of

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barrel aged beers, they're thinking bourbon
barrels and stouts. And I saw even

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last year that Ravinia took home of
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What other types of barrels or types
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this year at full Babu. So
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festival, but it's a competition,
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styles of beer, right, and
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that you automatically equate with with with
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we're having wild wild beer with mixed
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laggers and you know some of these
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in front of me. Just just
make make me thirsty. You know.

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There, there's there's there's things being
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gin barrels are a great combination.
People are using tequila barrels, people are

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using wine or sherry barrels, and
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distinct notes to the beer, and
so it's it's it's an exciting competition this

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year across those twelve different styles,
and you know there's something for everybody there

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for sure. Yeah. I saw
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there was one with port as well. So yeah, I'm looking forward

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to trying all the different ones.
Definitely that Spanish seater, hopefully they put

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that out again this year, because
that sounds really interesting. You know,

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what's really what's really cool about it
is that all of these bottles, if

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you went into a bottle shop and
bought them or walked into a brewery and

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bought them. These are twenty thirty
dollars bottles of beer just for a large

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format bottle of beer. And so
for the price of admission of Poe Bab,

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you could try beers the best beers
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twenty four different states, all major
beer markets, bringing you know,

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unique one off beers that you're never
going to be able to try again without

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spending a significant sum of money to
get. This is going to be my

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first fae Bab. What can I
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the UIC Credit one arena. You
know, with two hundred breweries and four

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hundred beers, it's a lot to
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so the biggest faux Bab veterans I've
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a plan, so do your research
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prior the day of the festival,
we will post all of the beers

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and the locations, and so before
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line to get in, you know, do some research and figure out where

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things are. We break everything out
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on the floor there'll be certain beers
of the arena and around the concourse there'll

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be certain beers and so you know, and one thing I will say is

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that you know, this might be
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get to try a barrel aged perry, and so go and do it right,

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or you know something that's barrel aged
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what is people are getting into now
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And so you know which is the
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come, come with a plan.
You know, just don't go to

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those hype breweries that you know about, because you know, more often than

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not gold metal metal winners at phobab
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that people have never heard of that
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so I'll have to get my map
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I see that there's also going to
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alcoholic lounge with the new Revolution hop
Water. I mean, I think this

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is going to be good for people
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pallet a bit. Yeah. So
the logger lounge is something that we had

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last year for the first time that
people went, you know, absolutely bananas

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over and so you know we have
about twenty breweries bringing some of their best

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loggers, and so you have an
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it creates a different vibe. And
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multiple areas in Phoebab. You know, there's the arena, which is all

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barrel aged beers, many different kinds, but you know, barrel aged beers.

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hangout spot where you can kind of
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of plan your next steps. And
also the NA Lounge. And so something

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that's important about a festival like poe
Bab beer festivals in general is hydration.

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Right, you want to be able
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couple of SIPs of something delicious that
maybe is not alcoholic. And Revolution Brewing

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is sponsoring NA Lounge, which is
gonna be filled with their new hot water.

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So it's an exciting time to try
something new and and you know,

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take take a little bit of a
reprieve from from some of the more high

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alcoholic beverages. Is there gonna be
food available, Like if people need to,

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you know, put something else beside
the thirteen beer in them. Yeah,

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there's there's gonna be arena food available. So I advise people to stop

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and eat a hot dog or eat
eat a pretzel and break it up a

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little bit, you know, but
eat before, eat after. Spend lots

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of money in Chicago, we need
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It's gonna be a great festival for
everybody. Now, the UI S Credit

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One Arena, it's about a three
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and that's back open. I know
earlier in the summer they were doing some

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shuttle buses, but I checked the
CTA's website out yesterday and it looks like

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the station is open, but like
you have to use a different entrance,

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but it's only a quick, you
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If somebody's not taking public transportation,
is there parking available? And I'm

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assuming since it's that big of a
festival, there's gonna be plenty of ubers

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and lyfts around without a doubt,
And so you know, we advise people

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not to drive it is it is
an alcohol festival, so public transportation is

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the way to go. We purposely
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at Reccene because it is by far
the best way to get to the event.

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Of course, you know, ubers
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It's a pretty highly trafficked area right
off of two ninety, so you

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know, people you're gonna have no
problem getting ubers or lyft. Feel free

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to ride a bicycle. There's gonna
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you know. But you know,
one thing we are hyper focused on

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is people getting there safe and people
getting home safe. Although I don't know

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if you want to see me on
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I'll stick with taking the blue lights. Yeah, that'll work. Yeah.

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Are there beers that you're excited about
trying this year? I'm most excited

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to try some of the more barrel
age loggers. That was That was a

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category that started last year that just
really kind of opened my eyes to what

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this, what this could be.
Obviously, there's some really great breweries in

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Illinois and especially the Chicago Land area
then that I'll of course flock to because

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they have great barrel programs. But
you know, I'm I'm most interested in

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trying some of these smaller, smaller, local regional breweries, maybe even some

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of the out of state breweries that
are coming, because it you know,

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I most likely won't get another chance
to try these beers ever again. Last

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year, sun King out of Indiana, I think took home the most metals

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we got to get this back in
the state. You know, I don't

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know, you need to tip the
scale or something if you need me to

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come and throw my thumb on the
scale for some Illinois brewer's here. You

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know, the thing, the thing
I love about Poe Bab in comparison to

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like, you know, the World
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that, is that the judging is
done on a very different criteria than you

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know, the World Beer Cup or
any one of those other Brewers Association events.

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And you know what makes it really
cool is judge judges are primarily judging

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on taste, and so they're judging
on what they like. And obviously these

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are highly qualified judges for that have
international credentials. But you know, but

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the Phoebab judging seems to be like, all right, does this beer taste

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freaking awesome? And you know,
those are the beers that win and and

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and believe you me is that every
time there is a winner announced, there

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is almost a stamped to that brewery
to try to get that beer that just

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won. So kind of position yourself
strategically during the awards. In addition to

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FOBAB, the Guild just announced yesterday
that the Illinois Diversity in Brewing Scholarship is

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coming back for twenty twenty three.
That's really cool. What can you tell

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people about the scholarship? You know, that is one of my favorite things

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we've been able to accomplish during my
time at the Guild, and so this

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is this is a scholarship and an
opportunity we give out two every year in

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partnership with the Civil Institute, you
know, to bring underrepresented voices into the

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brewing space. And so you know, Blair Turner from Turner House Brewing,

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which is opening up on the South
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Jay Westbrook who goes by the alias
the Black Beer Baron and as a

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Simpsons fan, I absolutely love that, you know, but he's been he's

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done projects with with Haymarket Brewing,
the Heralds, Honey al and Sketch Foot

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brewing and so he's kind of a
nomad brewer, is a past winner and

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so to see you know, these
folks, you know, use these credentials

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to to to really improve the diversity
and the voices and and and the perspective

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of the community is something that's been
so empowering to see. And so you

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know, you could find out more
about our scholarship on Illinois beeer dot org.

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Okay, so definitely check out that
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because that's really cool. And looking
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in to a one last year,
I believe that she's going to open a

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brewery in Brownsville, So that's really
cool. Also, Yeah, no,

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Blair Blair is a great recipient.
Yeah, so for for a brewery to

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go into Bronzeville is just like a
great step in the right direction for this

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industry, you know. And it's
and it's something that you know has has

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traditionally been pretty exclusive, and so
it's taking a lot of time and effort

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and intentional intention to make it a
more inclusive industry. And that's something that

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I'm proud that our organization is doing
and that you know, almost all the

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brewers in the state of Illinois are
bought into and so it's pretty cool to

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see. Yeah, I mean that's
awesome, So definitely I'll include links in

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the show notes for that. Ray, thank you so much for coming on.

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Before I let you go. Is
there any kind of like training I

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need to do for Faux Bab?
Do I need to like run the steps

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like Rocky? What kind of training
do I need to go into for this?

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I would suggest heavy hydration? Okay, you want to be you want

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to be well hydrated. You want
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in your belly walking in the door. But other than that, Dave,

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I know you're a pro and you're
gonna fit in just fine. All right.

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I'll have my like liquid IV packets
with me for the water to stay

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hydrated. That's right, all right, Ray, thanks again, and I

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will definitely see you at fae Bab
see you there. Okay. The beer

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that's in front of me now is
from sketchbook. This is their Skulkie location.

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This is Triple G. This is
a Belgian style triple aged in wine

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barrels. Since we were talking Poe
Bab earlier with Ray, I figured I

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would have a barrel aged beer as
the beer in front, and I don't

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think I've ever had a wine barrel
aged beer. I've always liked everything from

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Sketchbook, so this should be good. This is ten point three percent alcohol,

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and let's crack it open. It
looks really nice, good amber color,

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good, couple fingers of foam,
smells really good. I almost it's

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almost a cross between the Belgian yeast
and I do get like a white wine.

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I'm assuming they age this in a
white wine barrel because the beer doesn't

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have any like red tannins in it. But yeah, it almost smells like

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a cross between a Belgian and a
white wine. So let me just shut

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up and have a sip of this. That's really interesting in a good way.

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You do get that Belgian yeast taste
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but it's very subtle, and I
do get some white wine notes out of

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here. There's a little you definitely
know it's a ten percent beer. You

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get that little alcohol burn at the
end. I think this is really good.

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Yeah, that's excellent. I've never
had this. I hope they have

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some other stuff like this over at
Faux Bad because I'll definitely be going to

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the Sketch Book tent if there have
some stuff there. But this is really

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good. Now. I pick this
up at my local bottle shop Bottles and

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Cans, So if you see this, I would definitely put this one in

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the cart. Grab yourself some triple
g from Sketchbook. I've gotten away from

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ramblings on social issues the last year
or so on the podcast, but something

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happened over the weekend that really made
me stop and think. Aris Brewery and

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Cider House released a new sider aged
in milorc barrels, and I had to

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go pick up my order because I
ordered one and I wanted to pick it

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up. On the way there,
I saw two families of refugees sitting on

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a corner of Irving Park and Pulaski
and it just it made me think,

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what the hell is wrong with this
picture where my thumb ass is picking up

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a twenty dollars bottle of cider while
these families are hoping for a couple of

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bucks from strangers to get food from
a gas station. I don't know the

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answer. Hell, I don't even
know what the question is. But there

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has to be a better way to
take care of people than having families of

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human beings sitting on a corner somewhere
in Chicago. All right, that's going

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to wrap things up for this edition
of Beer in Front. I thank you

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very much for listening. I want
to thank again Ray Stout, the executive

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director of the Illinois Craft Brewers Guild, for coming on and talking about phae

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Bab and the Illinois Diversity and Brewing
Scholarship once again. I'm taking next week

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off, so the next show will
be out in a couple of weeks and

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I'll have a recap of pae Bab. If you need to get a hold

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of me, you could email me
Dave atsberinfront dot com. You can find

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me on all the social media channels
apt Beer in Front. Have a great

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couple of weeks. I will talk
to you in two weeks, and remember

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or sometimes the beer in front of
you is the best one yet. All

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Right, have a good couple of
weeks. I'll see you then.
