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millions of Angelinos for over twenty five
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all Star Tuesday. David Vasse with
you until eight o'clock tonight here on AM

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five to seventy LA Sports, and
we have a great show for you.

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Not only are we going to recap
Teoscar Hernandez becoming the first Dodger ever to

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win the home run Derby, but
coming up in our next segment, we'll

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hear from one of the best pitchers
of his generation, a Dodger tormentor in

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many ways, but a great competitor
and an even better guy, and that

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is Jake Peevey, the former Padre
and San Francisco giant who is now on

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the set for MLB Network. Also
coming up at the bottom of the hour,

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Since earlier this year, only a
couple of weeks ago, did we

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celebrate Clayton Kershaw's ten year anniversary of
his one and only no hitter. A

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j Ellis will join us as well. We'll share a conversation with you that

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I had with Aj that really took
us into a deep dive on Kershaw's no

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hitter. Aj was the catcher that
night, and certainly a great time to

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reflect on a great moment in Dodger
history, the great Kershaw's only career no

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hitter, and many believe that was
a perfect game, even though it did

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not show up that way in the
box score. Many believe that was the

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single greatest game pitched in the regular
season in baseball history, or at least

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in the modern era. So we'll
have aj on to share the insights of

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Kershaw's one and only career no hitter
that took place on June eighteenth, twenty

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fourteen, and Jake Peevey will join
us in the next segment as well.

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But many of you are excited for
Teoscar Hernandez to win the home run Derby

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last night? He was Can you
believe this? He was one of the

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bigger underdogs going into the home run
Derby last night. Vegas had the odds

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for Hernandez to win the home run
derby fourteen to one. So if you

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were one of these Dodger fans that
just bet on the Dodgers to win the

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World Series every year, I hope
you bet on Taoscar Hernandez to win the

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home run Derby, because you would
have made yourself some nice summer vacation cash

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if you would have taken Taoscar Hernandez, who was a fourteen to one underdog,

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to win the home run derby,
and it was great to see him

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go toe to toe with Bobby Wood
Junior. What I thought was interesting was

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in the final round, Taoscar Hernandez
did not look like he was going to

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have enough juice left to outlast Bobby
Wood Junior. And I also was concerned

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about Dino Ebel, who may have
been getting a little tired throwing BP all

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that time. But those two,
dino Ebel and Taoscar Hernandez regrouped after Oscar

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took the time out that he was
allowed it in that final round. Vladimir

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Guerrero Junior brought Taioscar Hernandez's Blue Jays
jersey with him and was wearing it in

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the final round and also gave Taoscar
some piece of advice. Here's what Taoscar

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Hernandez said after the home run derby
on what Vladdie Junior told him that was

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one of the biggest surprises today.
Well, he did, he said yesterday

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when we get to we'll get here
to the hotel. Zach, I got

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a surprise for you, compilding,
so I'm gonna show it tomorrow. So

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he brings my jersey from Toronto,
and when he goes to home play,

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he was trying to calm down myself. He had passed through the two times

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and it works well, he said, it works. It helped me going

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into the last around on the fun
That was awesome. Taoscar Hernandez and Vladdie

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Junior, his former teammate in Toronto, staying all the way to the end

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to support his former teammate and countrymen, both great Proud Dominican Republic baseball players,

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and it was awesome to see Taoscar
Hernandez win the home run Derby by

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one home run. Bobbywood Junior,
by the way, he almost tied the

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home run Derby if you remember his
final swing. His final out scraped the

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left center field wall. He was
that close to winning the home run Derby,

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or at least sending it to overtime. And that was an exciting finish

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because Bobbywood Junior is from the Dallas
Fort Worth area, so he had the

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hometown crowd behind him to try to
help him gain that energy and momentum to

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try to at least force another round
of the home run derby. But all

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of us are super excited for Taoscar
Hernandez. He is one of the most

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fun loving guys. He's got a
great smile, He's a great team guy.

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I was hoping somebody would have the
sunflower seeds for Taascar Hernandez after he

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won the home run derby, to
throw in his face like he does for

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his teammates. The only teammate I
saw stick around for the finals was Tyler

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Glass. Now where was shoe hey
Otani? Where was Freddie Freeman? Where

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was Will Smith? Where were the
rest of the Dodgers to support their teammate?

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And you know, I was thinking
about it today. I was thinking

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about am I going to come on
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Because we saw the entire Phillies All
Star contingent stay there for Alec Bohm

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who was eliminated in the semis.
We saw the Royals teammates Sal Perez and

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Cole Reagan's be there for Bobby Wood
Junior, even Vladimir Guerrero juniors stayed there

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for Taoscar Hernandez and I was thinking, man, where were these guys?

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And I feel like that's a legitimate
question, and I feel like we all

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are a little disappointed all the Dodgers
did not stay there. But man,

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that was a long show. And
I've talked to some guys that have participated

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in the home run Derby that we're
watching last night, and they said,

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man, that was a long show. I don't blame them for late leaving,

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but I will say this, even
with it being a long show,

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and Baseball has got to do a
better job to keep this pace moving,

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because if you were at Dodger Stadium
for the home run Derby, it is

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a made for TV show. And
that's fine. You're kind of part of

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a studio audience if you're at one
of these home run derbies. But you've

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got to pick up the pace and
it can't be drawn out as long as

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it has. I mean, there
have been critics of the dunk contest and

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the way they do things, and
I feel like Major League Baseball, with

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all these tweaks, you've got to
kill some of the dead time in between

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these hitters swinging, and I know
it's exhausting for them, but come on,

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you got to speed this up,
and the tempo's got to be better.

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So I'm on the fence now about
whether or not to really slam the

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rest of the Dodgers for not staying
there for Taoscar Hernandez. But I'm sure

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they had their reasons, but come
on, you got to be there for

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the guy, right, I mean, we wanted to see Otani throw the

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sunflower seeds at Taoscar Hernandez at the
end. We wanted to see Freddie and

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Charlie there. We wanted to see
Will Smith there to embrace their teammate who

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became the first Dodger ever to win
the home run derby. But on the

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flip side, I understand that it
was a long show, but come on,

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you could have stayed right, I
mean, we wanted to see you

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guys be there. But kudos to
Tyler Glass Now for staying there until the

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finish and being there for his teammate
Taoscar Hernandez. And kudos to Dino Ebel,

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who has thrown to a few different
hitters in this home run derby format.

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And Dino even got a press conference
after last night's victory. Yeah,

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you know, I don't call it
really pressure do this every day this,

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that's my job. I always joke
around with the players. My job is

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to get lit up and batting practices. I just got to know, you

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know where they like it and you
know they're, yeah, I'm not perfect.

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I'm gonna throw some balls and do
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But you know he's a trooper.
That this guy. He believed in himself.

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I believed in him. He uh, he just showed it to the

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world to night, that Wayne talent, and he showed up. They're so

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proudly and so happy for the Dodger
organization, the first one to He's been

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some heavy hitters and in this organization, but special moments. I'm still the

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static just watching the family. For
me, was you know, the best

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part with Tail raising that trophy if
it was good? All right? There

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is Dino Ebol, Dodgers third base
coach and maybe the best batting practice thrower.

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If you were watching some of these
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it was night and day compared to
Dino Ebel. I feel like that may

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have been the difference for Taoscar Hernandez
to beat Bobby Wood Junior. Obviously,

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ta Oscar has got to be the
guy to hit the home runs, but

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man Dina was putting those pitches right
in his sweet spot, right in his

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swing, and they certainly had a
game plan to be able to pull the

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ball to left field. If you
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if you're a right handed hitter,
it wasn't going anywhere. So that was

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a great strategy for Taioskar Hernandez to
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nobody knows globelie Field better as a
BP pitcher than Dino Eble. It feels

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like that's the Dodgers' second home since
twenty twenty, since they went on that

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twenty twenty World Series ride in the
bubble. There that home clubhouse that the

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Rangers used that was basically the Dodgers
clubhouse, and they may be co renters

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and not surprising Corey Seeger has done
what he's done with the Rangers. I

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mean, I feel like that is
the house that Seger made famous when the

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Dodgers won the World Series in twenty
twenty. So congratulations to Taoscar Hernandez and

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Dino Ebol. And Dino threw BP
twice because he threw it to his son

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the day before for a high school
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So Dino knew what he was doing
out there, and it couldn't happen

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to two better guys, Dino Ebol
and Taoscar Hernandez. The winning team the

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first player ever as a Dodger to
win the home run Derby. Remember Jock

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Peterson back in twenty fifteen. Twenty
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Cincinnati. That was the closest a
Dodger has ever come to winning the Home

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Run Derby. So kudos to Taoscar
Hernandez. We're gonna take a time out

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here on Dodger Talk. When we
continue, will be joined by MLB Network

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Zone Jake Pevia, two time World
Series champion. Don't go anywhere more Dodger

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Talk until eight o'clock right here on
a five to seventy LA Sports on this

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All Star Tuesday. Right now,
we are joined by a man that was

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one of the best pitchers of his
generation and certainly a man that was known

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for his competitive spirit during his career
that saw him win two World Series titles,

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one with the Giants, the other
with the Boston Red Sox. He

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pitched eleven years in the NL West
with the Padres and San Francisco Giants.

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He's a cy Young Award winner.
He's a triple Crown winner. He's a

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three time All Star and now part
of MLB Network's coverage during the All Star

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break. He is a champion of
the people, the one and only Jake

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Peevie. Jake, thanks a lot
for the time. Appreciate it. What

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an introduction. It's an honored to
be here. I know Dodger fans may

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have mixed feelings. We have Dave
Roberts in common. Dave Roberts tied and

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put this bad blood together. And
that's the beautiful thing about post career.

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You don't have to hate or be
enemies with anybody. You can appreciate it

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at all. You're such a nice
guy. I don't think anybody could hate

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you like they hated Madison Bumgardner.
Well, I'll tell you what. Madison

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gave the Dodger nation a lot to
hate. He was one hell of a

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teammate, I'll tell you that.
And I don't get to carry around one

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of those titles of champion if it's
not for number forty. Him and Yasielpwi

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come to mind. When you talk
about Dodgers giants in general, no doubt

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about it. And I guess before
we move on Jake and get into all

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that you mentioned Dave Roberts. You
were teammates with him with the Padres.

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Did you ever envision him being not
only a manager, but this successful of

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a manager doesn't surprise me one bit
because a manager, he's just got to

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know the game of baseball, but
he's got to be able to communicate and

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put it all together. And that's
what the best that I played for were

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able to do. They were incredible
communicators. They could rally the truth.

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The truth would rally around that person. That's who Dave is. And we've

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seen that come to fruition. You
know, Look, we can get deep

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into it. And I think the
guy should have another world title too,

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if another team's not cheating, and
you know, so, look, I

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think if he does have that other
world title, he's viewed even differently than

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he is. Dave Roberts is a
great manager and to no surprise of anybody

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who's been a friend, teammateer around
him. It's interesting you brought that up

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twenty seventeen. If the Dodgers win
that World Series, championship, Jake,

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the narrative surrounding two men, Dave
Roberts and Clayton Kershaw are completely different.

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Well, that's why I brought that
up, David, is because it needs

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to be in the peripheral when you're
having that discussion, because there's a huge

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asteris by that, and it's the
first thing that comes to my mind when

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Dodger fans want to talk about who
Dave Roberts is as a leader as a

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manager, who the front office is. Look this front office since I kind

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of when the changeover, when Andrew
Freeman kind of came in, there's been

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nobody front office wise, down through
the on field product to the off field

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marketing of the players that do it
better than the Dodgers. And that's just

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the truth in my opinions. Jake
Peve is our guest, former Major League

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pitcher now a great analyst on MLB
Network. This will be Jake Peevey's first

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All Star Game covering it for MLB
Network during this All Star break, and

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you'll see him on MLB Tonight and
their coverage not only during the All Star

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break but also in the second half
of the season. Are you seeing the

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game a little bit differently, Jake
being in the studio than you did maybe

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in the dugout on the days you
didn't pitch well so much as went into

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it because of how much the game's
changed, and you can't be stubborn.

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I think it's kind of labeled on
me that I'm a non analytic guy,

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or I'm the opposite in the studio
of Brian Kenney, but that's not true.

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I've continued to try to stay evolved, evolving with the game and to

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stay current and now having so many
friends still within systems. Mike Napoli is

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a first Bay coach and been with
David Ross, but he's still there now.

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He's under Craig Counsel learning wanting to
be a manager. Craig Breslow Chris

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Young two former teammates that are now
successful general managers. Craig Breslo in his

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first year doing Wonders in Boston,
Ce Why and Boach and those guys having

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the belt. So these guys were
very close friends. Andrew Bailey, you

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know, who's now went over to
join Breslow. You know, the guys

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who I still have out there in
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understand, you know, the new
lingo. But the game is the game.

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Winning baseball is winning baseball. You
don't have to have anybody or analytics

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tell you that. The when you
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we're doing things the right way or
the wrong way. And the leaders that

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we're talking about in Dave Roberts,
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awfully, you know. Good.
Did you ever encounter the analytics towards the

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end of your career, Jake?
Of course, yeah. No, by

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twenty sixteen, they were, you
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were getting ready to take off with
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it was kind of you know,
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analytics went wrong is they pushed a
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and even the coaching staff managers Bochie
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And that was there was many more
that was I think where the analytics went

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wrong. It just didn't it valued
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had years of experience and maybe didn't
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had those invaluable and intangibles that that
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and I you know, it was
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hold on and listen to the guys
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then guys were you know, in
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how you got to look at it, and there wasn't really a marriage to

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that. It was kind of a
style takeover. Yeah, that's one way

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to put it, for sure.
Jake Peevee is our guest, and look,

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I side with you, Jakes.
I feel like analytics certainly has a

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place in the game, but a
three year sample size is not going to

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help any manager win tonight. And
maybe the macro of a one sixty two

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marathon doesn't really reflect how you deviate
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postseason. I think play a big
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all over and what you just said, and the Dodgers get this, Rise

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just said, I don't want bee
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heavily analytically driven, and I think
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out in place of your advantage.
When we talk about winning championships, that's

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a whole different story. Now,
winning baseball and you can throw some of

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the analytics out the window, and
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a back seat to game management and
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And I hate to bring this up
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but I'm just going back and playing
Monday morning. Quarterback Tyler Anderson coming

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out of that game in San Diego
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Loretta was sitting next to me,
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just said to me, I'm so
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the game. We had no chance
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was you know what I'm saying,
just a normal casual fan who was watching

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the game had the feel of it
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versus anybody but that guy. And
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playoffs, you have to match that
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Ruth Bochi's, you know, playing
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against what the matchup says, but
in the playoffs, I believe that stuff

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wins championships. Two time World Series
champion Jake Peevey knows all about it.

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He is our guest. He's on
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and certainly their coverage during the entire
baseball season. And Jake, that brings

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me to the question twenty twenty four, how do you view this Dodger team

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and their chances to get through the
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still view him as the class of
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I'll start with the two teams behind
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trouble, potentially missing the dance.
San Diego certainly has issues, but they're

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coming. The Giants certainly have issues, but they're coming if they get some

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healthy pieces back. And that leads
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seven and a half game lead.
We've got some When Mooki and Max Munzi

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are back in this lineup, it
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with ta Oscar providing the way he
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back in this Dodger lineup, it
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are on the opposition tonight. They're
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seven through nine of that Philly team
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in the game last night. That's
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and you're winning games like they did
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middle other than Trey Turner goes over. So the Dodgers to me, when

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you get Mookie and Max back,
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when I just mentioned Trey Turner,
I wish we were have signed Trey

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Turner and that short stopposition would have
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in August and had got used to
Philly, he's been the best player in

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the National League. And I think
that contract is gonna be the best one

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out of that winner signed over the
length of it. The way he plays

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the game and gets older, smarter
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the Dodgers also on the same side. We're just beat up in a pitching

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way of my gosh, if you
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now and on and on with the
names, we've just you got a seven

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and a half game lead that you're
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the second half. We've just got
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to being punched in the mouth the
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get there with an edge, and
I believe your leadership not only with Dave

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Roberts, but on the team.
Freddie Freeman wants another title. He's a

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world champion, Nuki Betts wants another
one. Will Smith stud all Star Taoskar's

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riding that way show Hey's the best
player on the planet. But it can

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happen. You just got to get
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I can't talk to Jake Peevee without
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Clayton Kershaw. You've competed against him, you obviously respect him. Do you

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believe that he'll be able to come
back and look like himself after a major

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shoulder surgery? Jake, It scares
me. A major shoulder surgery is not

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anything guaranteed, and anybody who knows
about it will tell you that, and

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that's just the facts of it.
What I will tell you is Clayton Kershaw's

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as good as anybody to maybe ever
do it. He's in the question of

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as good as anybody to ever do
it. And greatness comes with longevity and

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Clayton has just been the model of
all of that greatness and longevity is all

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encompassing Clayton Kershaw. The Dodger fans
should be lucky to have him, and

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none of the negativity should be allowed
to see ben. It does when we

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get older in our career and don't
produce and we're not healthy. But I'm

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just very glad that we have a
chance for him to come back. I

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think Clayton is as mentally strong as
anybody I've ever met. You can't do

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what he's done without it. The
mind's a powerful thing in the body.

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You know, Clayton's gonna work and
do all of his rehab, and I

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know he's doing that. I'll have
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guys today. As I told you, I'm on the way of the ballpark.

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But Clayton Kershaw, this is all
you need to know. He's as

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good as maybe anybody has ever do
it? Are you kidding? Meet?

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The Dodgers have Sandy Kofax and Clayton
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all time to hang their hat on. Possibly, I hope to see him

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one more time doing what we've seen
him do for so long man, Jake

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Peeve me fired up, throw away
that suit. You got to take the

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mound for the Dodgers. They need
to forget about training for somebody. How

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about just signing Jake Peevey. I
tell you what what you've got coming off

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the IL and what you've got in
that minor league system. The arms,

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You've got plenty coming. Mark Pryor
is another friend, former teammate. You

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guys are going to be just by. Well. You brought up Mark Pryor.

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You and Mark Pryor had the best
bent caps in baseball history. When

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you used to bend your bill like
prior. Yoh, you knew game was

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on pv me and Prior matched up
in the minor leagues in Double A and

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then got to do it all through
the big leagues. And gosh, what

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a shame that he couldn't stay healthy
because he would have been in that conversation

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of the best to ever do it, the stuff out of this world.

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IQ betch ability all there, man. I love Jake Peevy. That's why

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it was. I knew it was
going to be a tough day when you

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saw him on the mound at Dodgers
Stadium. Two time World Series champ and

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Triple Crown winner. I mean,
people don't give you the love because you're

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so humble. You had one of
the great careers in recent memory, Jake,

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and it's an honor to have you
on the show. And I hope

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to meet you one day in beautiful
Sandiago. I look forward to the same,

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my friend. Thanks for having me
all. What a great guy,

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Jake Peevey. You knew when he
was taking the mound you were going to

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be in for a fight, and
you could hear it in his voice.

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Still he's got that fight in him
and I love watching him on MLB Network.

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He does a great job. Coming
up next here on Dodger Talk,

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we will catch up with former Dodger
catcher aj Ellis, who took us inside

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Clayton Kershaw's one and only career no
hitter. It took place ten years ago

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at Dodger Stadium. Don't go anywhere
more Dodger Talk until the top of the

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hour. Right here on a five
to seventy LA Sports. You heard Peev

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talk about Clayton Kershaw and you could
hear the reverend he had for Kershaw in

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the career and the competitor that he
is. We just celebrated the ten year

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anniversary of Kershaw's one and only career
no hitter, and I had a chance

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to catch up with this catcher that
night. A j Ellis for a very

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extensive, in depth interview about that
special night on June eighteenth at Dodger Stadium.

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Yeah, and that is amazing to
hear Dave that I've passed over the

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rubicon from professional friend to personal friend. I am, I am, I'm

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shaking right now. I'm so excited
to hear that we've crossed over in that

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relationship. And I don't know,
do we get like matching T shirts now,

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or do we get like hats or
like, what's the next step for

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us? I think we should.
We should get a T shirt pointing at

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you and one pointing at me.
Bes friends, let's let's do it.

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I feel like I know that's how
I feel. I'm not sure if that's

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how you feel. No, I
mean, I do. I really do

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miss our time. I miss being
out in l A. I miss I

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missed coming to Dodger Stadium. Like
I said, I said the day I

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was created, it's it is the
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uh, you know I did.
I did enjoying my time there and mentally,

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and uh, it was not just
people on the field or people in

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the in the stands or teammates that
I had. It was people, you

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know, doing a variety of jobs. And uh that doesn't include the media

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at all, who had just an
important role in uh providing a great lens

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for our fans into the game,
and yourself included. And UH, now

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as we joke about it, but
you know, you have been an amazing

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advocate and amazing voice, uh for
the Dodgers, and you're not afraid to

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tell it as it is, and
you give the Dodger fans a great perspective

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of what it's like on a daily
basis for the team. So congratulations to

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you. Congradulations to this podcast another
great avenue for you to connect with fans,

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and uh fans are out in LA
and Dodger fans around the world are

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fortunate to be able to have access
to a little bit even more of a

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behind the scenes look to club.
Well, thank you so much for that.

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And I know everybody kept asking me
after the Dodgers won the World Series

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whether or not I got a ring
or not, And honestly, the ring

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meant nothing to me after I got
two texts from guys that I really respect

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and have accomplished so much in their
careers. One was from you and the

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other was from David Freese. That
really sent a nice note and honestly to

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me, that meant more than any
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So your thoughtfulness really meant a lot
to me. And full disclosure.

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AJ. Last week on the podcast, I did share one of my favorite

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memories being in Pittsburgh. I may
have been overserved one night before a game

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and I walk into the clubhouse and
you out of nowhere throw a caterade bottle

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at me and say, hey,
drink this, that'll help. So that's

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one of my PNC Park memories.
Yeah, I do remember that. I

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do remember that you were Hey,
it's it's lessons we learned on the road.

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It's a hydrate and uh, you
know, if we got to make

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sure that you're you're you're able to
perform at at your peak level. So

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it's my job there at two o'clock
in the afternoon to uh, you know,

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maybe put a little life back into
the body, take a little color

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back into the slush space that you
had, and give you the ability to

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uh to work a good game that
night. Unfortunately, unfortunately that's maybe from

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too much experience on my own end
of understanding how to do bounce back uh

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after especially in Pittsburgh when there's some
good places to go and uh, some

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places to hang out with the boys
after a game. Hey, speaking about

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the boys, how are my favorite
people that you know, not your family

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but your Kentucky friends. Oh?
Nice, Yeah, they're doing it awesome.

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Yeah, it was fun. We
actually all turned forty this year and

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all of us have gotten together.
Well, we got together once we went

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down to Kentucky and support and surprised
a couple of the guys and got to

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hang out with them. Just an
awesome weekend. And then later in this

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in this fall, the four of
us are going to get together and experienced

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the Rider Cup up here in Wisconsin, Wisconsin out but in Milwaukee suburb there

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and the Ryder Cup is coming to
Whistling Straits and we decided for a fortieth

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birthday celebration for us to kind of
commemorate our relationship, our friendship and turning

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forty, we're going to spend some
time at the Ryder Cup. So looking

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forward to that for sure. That
is awesome. Maybe you'll spend a night

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at the Iron Horse, you know, with the friends. Now I'll open

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up the ill ove up the mansion. Oh not the manson, I shouldn't

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say. I'll leave ot to Andre. Andre is the one of the multiple

404
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.920
mansions all over the place. He
actually claims that he owns my ore and

405
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.759
Milwaukee told me before. But yeah, that's a funny story. At Me

406
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.799
and Dre were on the bench one
day and I was watching and one of

407
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.799
our hitters stepped up, who was
notorious for swinging at the very first pitch

408
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.880
of the bat wildly, didn't matter
where the pitch was, And I said,

409
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I will bet my house. But
he swings at the first pitch right

410
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.920
here, and of course, as
you would have it, he doesn't swing

411
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at the pitch, and Dre goes
you, I own your house. Now

412
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.920
that's my house. Ever since,
ever since that point, he's always referred

413
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to me as being the caretaker for
his Wisconsin home. Since I bet and

414
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lost my home that day on the
bench in Dowger Stadium. That is awesome.

415
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:18.400
You've had some very interesting conversations.
Zach Granky said he would trade you,

416
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.160
and now Andre Ethier told you that
he owns your house. Oh my

417
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.359
gosh, yeah, it's you know, I've been on the receiving end of

418
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:32.799
some some fun relationships and some some
serious some serious characters in our sport,

419
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.039
and it just made it, maybe
the years even that much more enjoyable when

420
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.720
you're around some fun people and guys
who can keep you on your toes at

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00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:45.480
all time. June eighteenth is the
anniversary of Clayton Kershaw's one and only career

422
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no hitter. It's the seven year
anniversary of you catching that no hitter.

423
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:56.559
And I went back to watch that
entire game last night. I wanted to

424
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.359
point out a couple of different at
bats, but before we do, I

425
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.680
know, Clayton's all on that five
day schedule, good or bad. The

426
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.519
next day he's on to the next
start. But do you remember what it

427
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.359
was like the day after the no
hitter when he walked into the clubhouse.

428
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.799
Did you guys drive to the ballpark
together that day? What was it like

429
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.200
if you remember now? Yeah,
No, I think it was. I

430
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:19.880
think it was a little bit of
business as usual for him, But also

431
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.119
I think he was out, was
really still in that reflection mode of just

432
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:26.839
how special the previous night was it
wasn't just a no hitter. I mean

433
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.839
it was it was it was him, you know, on the national stage,

434
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.880
you know, really putting a stamp
on you know, who he was,

435
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.000
was the dominant pitcher. I think
every run at that point knew,

436
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.160
you know, he had kind of
you know, transcended into being the best

437
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.160
picture on the planet for that stretch
of time that he was that he was

438
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.039
out there competing. But for him
to do it in the way that he

439
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.160
did it, it wasn't just a
no hitter. It was complete utter dominance

440
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.119
and it was the talk of baseball
for the week to follow it. And

441
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.079
I think that was in the midst
of him not mistaken like a thirty eight

442
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.519
or thirty nine Indian scorelesstreak he had
going as well. So he was he

443
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.880
was at at as as our friend
John Pratt Pratt like to say, he

444
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:04.799
was at the peak of his powers, and he was. He was.

445
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.279
He was absolutely dominant over that over
the course of over the course of that

446
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.640
month. And yeah, so I
think coming in the next day, you

447
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.279
know, obviously there's the next name
media rush that comes as the national media

448
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.680
now wants to be a part of
it, and there's interviews, and you

449
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.359
know people will from ail Me network
want to connecting radio interviews, and so

450
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.559
there was definitely a flurry of people
who really wanted to get a little bit

451
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.079
farther behind the curtain of what that
game was all about. June eighteenth,

452
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.759
twenty fourteen, the one and only
no hitter that Kershaws pitched so far,

453
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.480
and in that game, which was
basically a perfect game despite it not being

454
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:44.839
that in the box score, there
was only one three ball count a j

455
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.319
and that was in the second inning. To Josh Rutledge, does that ring

456
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:51.640
a bell? I mean it's the
have a good slider. I think he

457
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:57.119
threw to get a ground out if
I'm not mistaken, But yeah, it

458
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:02.160
was a day where it was It
was one of those days where Clayton would

459
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.839
get strike one in a simple pattern
or his his his standard pattern, and

460
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.279
that how we pitched at the time
of it was just an aggressive fastball inside.

461
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.720
I think they were loaded up with
all writing hitters on that day,

462
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.559
aggressive line up. Just Dickerson led
off with the left. But but then

463
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:21.200
he it was one of those those
handful of times I can remember where he

464
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.960
had his A plus slider and his
A plus curveball working on the exact same

465
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:29.960
day, so really behind the plate, it was honestly just pretty simple for

466
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.359
myself of just putting down a pitch, getting strike one, and then kind

467
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:37.559
of just mixing and matching between the
two breaking balls that we needed to use.

468
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.359
And he was he was efficiently putting
guys away, and you know,

469
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:46.440
to strike down fourteen guys I believe
it was that fifteen so few, Yeah,

470
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:52.000
that's right, fifteen guys and so
and so few pitches. This speaks

471
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.000
to how just you know, dominant
and efficient he was in that game.

472
00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:00.400
Hey, the seventh inning was very
eventful. Miguel Rojas made a great play

473
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.640
on Tulowitzki and Adrian had a nice
scoop. But also in that seventh inning

474
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:12.280
was Hanley's throw that Adrian may or
may not should have been able to get

475
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.920
and Brandon Barnes was the next batter
after the Hanley error in the seventh inning.

476
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:23.039
Were you a little concerned that that
may frustrate Clayton and things could unravel

477
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:28.920
there in that inning? No,
actually I wasn't. I think my only

478
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.039
concern at that point was that you
know, he had pitched, you know,

479
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.119
six clean innings in a row.
So this is his first time being

480
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.360
in the stretch the entire day.
So you know, this guy, he

481
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.440
just pitched them from the lineup for
six trade innings, maybe trying to find

482
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:44.639
his rhythm, find his time into
the stretch, but it's pretty evident that

483
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.400
he was. He was in a
good spot right there. But really tough

484
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.480
play for Hanley and I came and
got that on the run. And I

485
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.519
love watching back the highlights and watching
you know, Hanley's hat go flying off,

486
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.599
and if you go back and watch
it, you see Clayton bend over

487
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.360
and pick up his pick up Hanley's
hat handed to him and say, hey,

488
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.679
nice try. Uh the handling just
like no frustration, no no rotation,

489
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.840
and Clayton probably you know, probably
never even looked at the school board.

490
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.480
It's als onto the next hitter,
and it was onto the next guy,

491
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.880
and uh, you have to get
to strike out of barns and then

492
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.480
you know two of whisky. Just
a you know, always a tough battle

493
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.800
in the n last years that we
had and he and Clayton had had many

494
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.320
epic showdowns over the years and ground
ball down the line, the go Rojas

495
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.920
who uh, you know, it's
really made a name for himself, you

496
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.559
know. And I think back then
he was kind of an up and down

497
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.320
utility infielder, can kind of plug
and you know, more for his glove

498
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.519
than his bat. And you know, as an aside, really proud of

499
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:37.920
Miguel in the career he's been able
to carve out, carve out and the

500
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.199
leader he's become for that marveling team. But they had just a fantastic play

501
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:44.960
down the line and just to get
rid of the ball and and and a

502
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.239
grace by a goal glover over at
first base. So just a good all

503
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.840
around play and then to go and
strike out. You have to remind up

504
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.360
believe his willing. Rosario was next
if that's a mistake. If I'm not,

505
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.199
he was through it, through it, through a nasty curveball there to

506
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.719
freeze him. And at that moment, chatting off, trotting off the field,

507
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:06.239
it's almost like, way, that's
that's the bullet we dodged, you

508
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.079
know, let's push through the finish
line right here. Yeah, And in

509
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.679
that eighth inning, it was very
easy for you guys to get through that

510
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.039
inning. And I noticed when both
of you were coming off the field,

511
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:20.800
but especially Clayton, he had a
sense. You could tell he had that

512
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.559
smirk on his face coming back to
the dugout. He had a sense he

513
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.559
was going to get to the finish
line. Did you feel that way too

514
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.199
after coming off the field in the
eighth inning, Yeah, it felt good

515
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.880
about it for sure, And you're
exactly right. It was. It was

516
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.039
very, very evident that the Rockies
had figured out, do not let this

517
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.840
guy get too strikes because he's got
a nasty strikeout stuff. And I toel

518
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:45.159
like they're desire to swing at first
pitches and be a bat and just try

519
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.119
to get the first pitch they saw
in play was definitely what their game plan

520
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.679
became from that point. But there's
a great moment there after the eighth inning.

521
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.719
Uh, you know it was,
Uh, We're sitting over the bench

522
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.440
and Rick Honeycutt and myself are over
there, and obviously it's a no hitter

523
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:00.719
and it really want a matter for
to know it or not. Clayton's gonna

524
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.920
sit by himself and no one's gonna
talk to him, remembers, gonna let

525
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.079
him say his his tunnel vision,
and uh, you know, Rick and

526
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:08.199
I are trying to figure out who
they're gonna pinch. It. I can't

527
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.599
remember who all they had I do
the pitch. It end up being Charlie

528
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.960
Colberson, who became a Dodger hero
with a big home run in his career,

529
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.559
but Charlie was with the Rockies as
a bench player. Both Rick and

530
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:21.360
I are trying to figure out who
they're gonna who they're gonna pinch it,

531
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:22.679
and when you what our game plan
is going to be against him and him

532
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.000
and are kind of Rick and Ire
kind of standing there talking and looking.

533
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:30.920
Also we feel this presence come behind
us and it's Clayton right there, and

534
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:31.639
he was looking like this. He
says, hey, who do you think

535
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.239
they're gonna pinch hit? Well,
you don't want to Jinx and no hitter

536
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.840
and no one wants to talk to
the pitchers. So Rick and I were

537
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.679
just staring at each other like uh
uh, like I'm not gonna go first,

538
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.760
and uh and Rick and then the
Clayton just says that I think it's

539
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:46.760
gonna be Cleverson. I'm just gonna
pitch my strengths. And I'm like that's

540
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.400
kind of now in my head,
like yeah, pitch his strengths. And

541
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.920
he went back and sat back.
But Rick Rick Rick he I always chuckle

542
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.239
and we tell that story just thinking
about nobody wanted to be the one to

543
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.719
talk to Clayton, and Clayton came
over and I wanted to talk about who

544
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:01.840
the pinter was going to be.
And yeah, I mean there wasn't gonna

545
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.199
be some detailed game plan. Hey, Charlie Colberson, we got to go

546
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.480
curb ball first pitch and you were
you were so locking He was so locked

547
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.840
in on that day that pitched the
strengths, you know, And for ninety

548
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.800
nine percent of Clayton's career, especially
in that era that he was pitched the

549
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.760
strengths. Was usually a pretty easy
game plan for him to go out and

550
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.159
and be be who he was.
Yeah, and Colberson swung at the first

551
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.119
pitch for the second out, it
is he had. He had a nice

552
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.599
pop up the yachtiel out there in
right field, which is probably the only

553
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:30.800
time that yachtiel caught a ball two
hands out there right field, which was

554
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.559
interesting you go back and watch the
highlight, but uh yeah, he secured

555
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.800
the catch and then set up the
final bat with Colberson, I'm sorry with

556
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:45.920
Dickerson, which is also has a
great fun moment where Clayton Corey flips the

557
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.639
foul ball into the left field or
we had to dug out bleachers, and

558
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.679
I go running in full steam and
I end up in Magic Johnson's lap over

559
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.119
there in the owner's box. I'm
trying to catch a foul ball. It

560
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:59.280
was probably about twenty five rowers d
but at definitely I'm trying to catch everything

561
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.119
I can. You had to know
I was going to bring that up,

562
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.880
so you jumped me. No,
I didn't know. It's it usually comes

563
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.079
up. It's one of it's one
of those funny I ran full steam into

564
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.360
that thing like an idiot. You
know, it's it's it's it's just trying

565
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.400
to make its play, trying to
get there, and the adrenaline took over.

566
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.519
But uh yeah, I go running
in. Clayton's like laughing at me.

567
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:22.880
If I remember Riley, It's like, I like smile at me,

568
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.840
like what are you doing? You're
you're You're an idiot. Yeah, and

569
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:30.039
so yeah, but he went back
and uh yeah, uh he threw a

570
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:31.880
slider and got the punch up.
Yeah, and then uh yeah, next

571
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:37.800
pitch a slider that they got got
got to the glove and I don't know

572
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.519
if you're gonna you're gonna bring this
one up or not either. But uh,

573
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.960
it's funny if you watch the highlights
back and watch the game, uh

574
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:49.000
three weeks earlier, uh, roughly
in Philadelphia. I wasn't going to bring

575
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.599
this up. I was not going
to bring this up. Josh Beckett threw

576
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.360
a no hitter and Drew but Terra. I love Drew. Drew is a

577
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.400
great friend, a great another great
uh great character in our game. Drew

578
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:04.119
is a starting catcher, and Drew
enough to celebrate, as he said,

579
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.440
and he's out there in the dog
pile, bounce around his mask. Catcher's

580
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.840
mask goes flying into the pile.
Well, here comes the athletic Midwest thirty

581
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.239
thirty five year old, you know, lumbering catcher into the dog pile.

582
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.599
Jumps up into the pile to celebrate
with my teammates, and I land with

583
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.199
my right foot right on top of
the Drew's catcher's mask, and it's pretty

584
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.480
severely sprained my ankle and they put
me on the DL for eighteen days.

585
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.559
And I always give Drew a hard
time about it, and like said,

586
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:30.239
hey, if I ever catch you
no later, I'm not taking my mask

587
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.320
with me. I'm not going to
put my teammates in harm way. I'm

588
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.280
a better teammate than you, like
I care about people and just give him

589
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.800
a hard time. But I did. He got the strikeout, and if

590
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:44.639
you watch back, I leave my
mask at home plate and I run out

591
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.159
there because, like I told Drew, I care about my teammates more than

592
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.599
he does. Yeah, yeah,
I remember. I remember the day.

593
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.480
The next day after we got back
from Philadelphia, I walked into the clubhouse

594
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.119
and your ankle is all taped up, and you're a like so bummed out

595
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.519
that happened. Oh, And I
was like, and I was like,

596
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.719
I think I was talking to you. I think I was talking to Alana

597
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.159
Rizzo at the time. I'm like, please, like get video footage of

598
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.519
the story. Like the last thing
I want is like for people like to

599
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.239
not believe me. I think that
I like was you know, like you

600
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.840
like as you said earlier, over
served in Philadelphia on Saturday, like sumbled

601
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:21.679
stumbled over a curb or or trip
somewhere, but like, please let the

602
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.400
people know this was actually like an
idiotic, idiotic, non athletic athletic move,

603
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.239
but actually did happen on the baseball
field. Hey, speaking of the

604
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:34.400
celebration, there's that iconic photo of
you and Kershaw embracing on the mound.

605
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.280
How big of that photo is hanging
in your living room right now? Is

606
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:43.639
it sixteen twenty or larger? Uh? It is? You know what I

607
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.000
think? Uh? Well, which
one? We got one? We got

608
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.239
one on each floor of the house. You know, you know there,

609
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.079
I'll be first one to be uh, you know, self deprecated. And

610
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.519
there are people out there who will
say that I am sitting right now in

611
00:41:54.519 --> 00:42:00.239
the house that Kershaw built. I'm
not. I'm not like I. There's

612
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.320
part of it that can't deny that
our relationship was special. And I will

613
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.760
be the first admit that Mike,
who was probably extended and probably a little

614
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.960
bit overinflated because of our relationship and
my ability to work with him. But

615
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.159
no, I do have a nice
I haven't I you know, honestly,

616
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.679
Dave, I haven't planning up.
I do haven't a been full of no

617
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.800
hitter, the memorability from that game, the scorecard and baseball from that game,

618
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.239
and a couple of other items.
It definitely those photos, and we've

619
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.000
talked about doing something and putting putting
up, putting up maybe a plaque.

620
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:35.199
But at at the same time,
like it's similar to what you said earlier.

621
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.360
It's like not about like the items, like you mentioned the ring,

622
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:42.800
It's about the relationships, and it's
about the memories. And like I I

623
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.960
love the memories I have from that
day and even just talking right now,

624
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:50.400
I'm smiling right now just thinking back
just so much that happened on that day

625
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.800
and and just this just this the
moment of that day and you talking about

626
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.599
celebrating, and you know, there's
a great moment there on the field and

627
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:59.679
you know, Ellen, she comes
down and and they get to share it

628
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.639
together. But we go in the
clubhouse and you know, obviously, uh,

629
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.079
I don't know if you know as
fans know this or not, but

630
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:07.840
there's a Major League rule, and
it's a very wise rule that there's not

631
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.000
there's not on the alcohol served in
the home clubhouse because people have to drive

632
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.920
home back to the game. But
we we had other items of uh,

633
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:20.320
you know, different types of milk
and soap and you know, anything you

634
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.480
get any shaving cream, and Clayton
got to go. Clayton got to go

635
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.639
get in the shower, and we
all got to kind of do our best

636
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.079
to got to dirty him up a
little bit, but not after his showers,

637
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.400
did his media. He was sitting
there by the locker. And you

638
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.159
know, one of the traditions I
had when I was in LA and in

639
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.880
my career was if the Dodgers of
the team I played with one, my

640
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.840
son Luke got to come and spend
time in the clubhouse afterwards, because the

641
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.880
clubhouse was it was fun and boisterous
and you know, it's a good,

642
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.679
good place for kids, and you
know, he got to come in and

643
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.519
have a chocolate milk and just have
a good time. But he, uh,

644
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.639
there's a I have a great picture
of him and Clayton and they both

645
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.960
kind of holding up a zero sign
with their fingers and Luke has no idea

646
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.199
what he's doing. He's you know, he's five years old at the time

647
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.599
and I'm sorry, four years old
at time, and he doesn't even know

648
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:01.960
what he's doing, but he's name
with Clayton. They're both holding up a

649
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.880
zero. And it's like memories like
that or or what a really much more

650
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.440
special than uh, you know,
any any framed photo or uh you know,

651
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.960
nostalgic plaque or anything like that.
It's the memories it's the people.

652
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.199
It's conversations like this just and we
get to share. Yeah. I like

653
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.119
to call it the a j Ellis
no hitter. Now there you go,

654
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.920
There you go. Please, let's
let's let's let's get that going. Yes,

655
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.440
do the kids do the Ellis kids
call Clayton uncle Clayton or do you

656
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:37.519
just keep it at mister Kershaw or
Clayton? What what's the appropriate addressing for

657
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.440
your kids? Well, you know
what's funny is uh, you know,

658
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.760
I got to spend some time with
him when they played the Brewers, and

659
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.360
we gotta hang out together. And
my kids aren't the only one. I've

660
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.039
been around other people and for some
reason, like it always rolls together.

661
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.119
It's like Clayton Kershall. My kids
will be addressing them and like like Luke

662
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.519
would be like, hey, Clayton
Kershall, Like what's your favorite stadium?

663
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.320
You're Clayton. I'm like, I'm
like Luke, Luke, just call him

664
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.039
Clayton, or call him curse or
call him home like that. But you

665
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:06.320
know, but no, it's uh, yeah, it's it's funny how and

666
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:07.599
then again, like my kid's not
the only one. You'll be out and

667
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.840
people be like, hey, Clayton
Kershaw. It's just one of those names

668
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.559
that just it rolls, It rolls
hand in hand. You know, I

669
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.599
don't hear too many a j eliss. I'm sure you don't hear too many.

670
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:20.320
Dave best age. We probably can't
repeat the words that we're heard when

671
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.239
we see by. It's definitely Clayton
Kershaw. You hear that one a lot.

672
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:27.400
I look forward to seeing you when
Andre Ethier and I come visit in

673
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.400
his summer home in Milwaukee one day. So I appreciate that. Right,

674
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.679
we'll see you out there. I'm
I'm the caretaker. I'll be the guy

675
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.800
out you know, moaning the grass
and pulling the weeds. And I'm just

676
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:43.880
glad to Andre allows me. It's
a little me and the family, a

677
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.800
little a little nook in the basis
of Prus to stay in. All right,

678
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.400
man, this is great. We'll
do this again soon. I hope

679
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.079
to see you in person very soon. Awesome, Dave, good to connect

680
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:57.719
with you. Enjoy enjoyed the time
out there, and uh, you know,

681
00:45:58.079 --> 00:45:59.360
tell the boys. I said,
hey, when you get in the

682
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:04.800
club offs next there. He was
aj Ellis, the Dodgers catcher during Kershaw's

683
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:09.400
prime. In his career, and
certainly happy that aj Ellis was there for

684
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:15.159
Kershaw on his no hit or night
against the Rockies June eighteenth, twenty fourteen,

685
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:21.239
one of the best pitch games in
Major League Baseball history. That'll do

686
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.079
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