1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:13,679 Welcome in to a Clips and Dip live edition final Summer League edition is the 2 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:18,640 Clipper's Summer League run with the guys comes to an end and they lose by 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,199 one. Ninety nine to ninety eight was the final, as Memphis moves on 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,839 to take on either Miami or Golden State tomorrow night in the championship game in 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,679 Summer League. I'm out of Oslind. This is Clips and Dip, waiting 6 00:00:34,719 --> 00:00:40,119 to see the chat here. Get active and make sure we're actually live and 7 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,320 I'm not somehow screwing this up as I have been prone to do. Maybe 8 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:51,799 I'll check out the YouTube myself to make sure we're live here. Possibility, 9 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Somebody let me know if this is up and fully operational here on the live 10 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:04,319 side. As the Clippers run comes to an end, Yes, I can 11 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:11,519 see we are live here. Memphis Grizzlies with Gig Jackson, with Jalen Wells 12 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:19,200 hitting six to three pointers more than he had hit total in his Summer League 13 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,920 campaign, and the Clippers run. But there were still some positive things here. 14 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:32,200 Sal says, we are in fact live. Thank you, Sal, 15 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:38,640 appreciate it. There were good things in this one, even though yes, 16 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:47,159 it was a heartbreaker, as coach d Sports says, but as may or 17 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:53,120 mccheesey would point out, best Clippers Summer League by far as he can recall 18 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:00,920 same here, certainly the best since Oh, I guess the SGA Summer League 19 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:07,319 team back in twenty eighteen summer of twenty eighteen. Appreciate everyone joining here on 20 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,439 the live as we bring more people in. I was live streaming it or 21 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,879 live threading it, live posting on X. I follow out of may on 22 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:21,319 X is where you find me throughout this one, as I had done the 23 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:25,479 first two games of the Clippers Summer League. Look, we'll take whatever content 24 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,840 we can get right now. It's kind of a thing where we're going to 25 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:35,800 be praying. We would be praying for summer league games with the amount of 26 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,560 downtime we're about to have as the off season starts to slow down here. 27 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:44,360 Still think the Clippers have another move in them in the offseason. More on 28 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:50,919 that coming up here. Oh Extra Earning TV says we hear what's up, 29 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,840 Ernie. Appreciate you. So the Clippers lose this one ninety nine to ninety 30 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,240 eight to the Memphis Grizzlies, who will be in the championship game take on 31 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,719 either Miami or the Golden State Warriors tomorrow night. But some really stellar performances 32 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:08,680 to highlight. I do want to point this out though, one of the 33 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,360 things that really affected the Clippers in this game was just the rule change. 34 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:16,439 And it's fine for a semi final, I agree with it. You went 35 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:22,000 from having ten fouls you could use throughout the summer league leading into the semi 36 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,599 finals, so just having six so back to the NBA regulation of just six 37 00:03:25,719 --> 00:03:30,280 fouls and then you foul out. And that's what we saw from Jordan Miller, 38 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:35,439 and it seemed to affect the Clippers overall in the game because Kobe Brown 39 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:43,240 had two fouls early on and he only played I think three or four minutes 40 00:03:43,439 --> 00:03:46,840 in that first quarter, maybe just two minutes before he started to get into 41 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:53,800 foul trouble that affected him, affected the Clippers overall. Still felt like Kobe 42 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,479 Brown ended up showing up in his twenty five minutes. He had seventeen points, 43 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,439 but would miss a free throw to tie the game to likely send it 44 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:09,639 into overtime with one point seven seconds left. As we have some commentary here 45 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,319 from you, that run in the third quarter was what killed the momentum. 46 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,439 They couldn't score for actually six minutes in that third quarter, as I think 47 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,319 Jordan Miller had to head to the bench because he got into foul trouble. 48 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:25,279 Eventually filed out, But yeah, Memphis went on a twelve to zero run 49 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,439 and Jalen Wells was just on fire from the outside. More three pointers in 50 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,639 this game from Jalen Wells into Washington State for the Memphis Grizzlies than he had 51 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:41,600 throughout summer league total six of seven from three. A ridiculous heat check on 52 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:45,959 the sixth made one a long three porter. Speaking of threes, though, 53 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:54,240 how about Cam I am him Christi Cam Christy. Guys went six for eleven 54 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,759 from distance, had a summer league high for himself a personal high twenty two 55 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,399 points balled out had the Clippers first nine points. The announcers were so shocked 56 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:08,720 they couldn't even pick up on it. They thought he only had two threes 57 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:13,000 to start things off. No, he had three threes right off the bat, 58 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,319 Cam Christie and hit him in different ways, first a step back three, 59 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,480 a tough fallaway three going to his right, then a set three porter 60 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:29,439 and then a nice catch and shoot three in transition and Cam Christy had a 61 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,360 long two in the second quarter, really good close out on a miss three 62 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:36,000 in the second quarter as well. His defense has been underrated, guys, 63 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,439 Cam Christy. It seems like a false narrative right now with him coming in 64 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,560 and being so spelt thin, undersized. Even though he's lanky, he has 65 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,519 the width, he has those long arms to him. He just needs to 66 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:59,399 put a few more pounds on. But Cam Christy's defensive instincts have very much 67 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:03,120 been there. He had a couple of really fine defensive plays in the second 68 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:11,399 half, I'd say in this one. But he had another three in the 69 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,399 fourth quarter off a beautiful pass make it. I think it was the third 70 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,160 quarter off of Kobe Brown attack where he went down the right side of the 71 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,000 lane and had a wrap around pass that he was falling out of bounds to 72 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,000 Cam Christy in the far side corner for a three pointer. And then Cam 73 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:32,519 Christy had some great defense at the six thirty mark. But that three pointer 74 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,519 he hit with about I don't know. I posted that follow out of may 75 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,480 I think a minute thirty left to put the Clippers back up by one. 76 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:46,240 Huge shot is in his veins from Cam Christie. That was also in the 77 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,759 same far side corner. We've talked about how beautiful the form is from the 78 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:55,600 outside with Christy, and we have a comment here from coach d Sports Cam. 79 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,959 Christie is a shorter Michael Porter junior with better defense. Who's been saying 80 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,240 it. I said, Michael Porter junior. Immediately when they drafted him the 81 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:09,959 tape came out. That's what his form looks like. That's how pretty the 82 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,800 shot looks. It's art, guys. Now, I'm thinking it's kind of 83 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,680 in between Michael Porters junior, maybe Devin Booker if you watch Devin Booker and 84 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:25,759 his shot mechanics. But this is I said it after the first game in 85 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:30,319 Summer League. It is a real NBA skill he has today that can translate 86 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,120 to the big leagues in the National Basketball Association. The only question is can 87 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,240 he do enough of the other little things right, play good defense, play 88 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:46,519 within himself, have a good shot selection, move the basketball blend in not 89 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,759 stand out for negative reasons as a young player because he's turning nineteen in three 90 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:56,519 days. It's crazy. There was another young player in this ballgame in Gigi 91 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Jackson, who played well and has played well as you would expect throughout Summer 92 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,800 League for the Memphis Grizzlies, actually was under his average, had twenty points 93 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,959 when he averaged twenty one in the Summer League, and at times looked like 94 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:15,480 a man amongst boys. He has the second most points ever scored by a 95 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,399 teenager in the NBA at just eighteen. He had a forty four point game 96 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,519 last season and against the Clippers, I took notice, I want to say, 97 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:24,240 one of his first games, if not his first game as a pro. 98 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:28,600 He went back and forth with Kawhi for a second God is kind of 99 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,639 welcome to the NBA moment, but also didn't look like the game was moving 100 00:08:31,679 --> 00:08:37,720 too fast for him. So you get this mix of young guys that have 101 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:41,240 gotten a little bit of seasoning in the league, rookies just getting their first 102 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:48,799 chance to play in summer league like cam Christi, European players like Bannon of 103 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:52,799 the Clippers, an Australian player number fifty one, and then the guys who 104 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,399 have been in the G League and are scratching a clawng to clawn to try 105 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:01,759 to get more minutes at the NBA level. So some of these games could 106 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:07,600 be very poorly played. And the Clippers went from not being able to make 107 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,080 a shot early on against Memphis to having a thirty five points second quarter. 108 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:18,840 But overall props to Dante Jones because the Clippers have looked like they've had a 109 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:22,279 level of professionalism about them in the summer league, with an identity on the 110 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:28,759 defensive end, with knowing who they want to play through on the offensive end, 111 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:33,159 with ray J. Dennis being in control of the offense doing a nice 112 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,600 job for this team. Only had five points, had a bad turnover late 113 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:43,240 looking for Mussa Diabate, who I felt like after Game three. Musa Game 114 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,919 three was against the Milwaukee Bucks. From that point on really turned his summer 115 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,759 league around. He had sixteen points, six boards, multiple put back dumps 116 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:54,039 off of missus from the Clippers, seven to ten from the field, a 117 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,720 couple of steals. Musa was a plus ten out there, led them in 118 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,039 that CA category with the starters. Elijah Harkless was a plus twelve and had 119 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,600 a couple of stellar defensive plays, including a strip and score and a dunk 120 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,639 going the other way late in the fourth quarter. That was huge as the 121 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,639 Clippers were, I want to say, down by eight late, made a 122 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,480 run to get back into this one as people are pointing out extra Ernie TV 123 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:22,279 saying Gig Jackson playing in the Summer League not fair. Well, he's still 124 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,919 that young guys. I think it's completely warranted by the Memphis Grizzlies to have 125 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:33,120 him out there. Cam Christy Chunk Samson says was born in two thousand and 126 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:39,879 five. Want of feels Yeah. Ernie Extra TV also says he's proud of 127 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:46,120 the young guys. I really thought this Clippers team during the Summer League run 128 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:48,399 to the semi finals, when they went four to zho to get there and 129 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,919 lost to a Memphis Grizzlies team that was just one point better, acquitted themselves. 130 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:58,919 Well, they played I'm not gonna say above their heads, but just 131 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,039 the more connected brand of basketball than I expected. And yes, we just 132 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,679 gave Elizah Harkless his flowers. Even though he struggled I think from the field 133 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:13,399 just one of seven. He had two steals in the game, one a 134 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,639 strip that went out of balance off a Memphis player in the first quarter and 135 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,519 then that steal and slam to make it a one point game late in the 136 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:24,039 fourth quarter. Elijah Harkless really helps set that toad defensively for the Clippers. 137 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,759 Throughout Summer League. Haven't even started to talk about Jordan Miller much yet. 138 00:11:30,039 --> 00:11:35,080 Is art Arch asked we got any roster in for any of these guys or 139 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,960 will they be in the G League. I think there will be another move 140 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:46,600 coming up with either PJ. Tucker or possibly maybe a Mere Coffee looks a 141 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:50,440 little bit more. I don't want to say expendable, but move a bull 142 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,000 at this point because of how some of the young guys have played. I 143 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,799 know a lot of people I think it's premature, but have said, you 144 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:03,759 know, Jordan Miller can be the next a Mere Coffee out there. I 145 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:09,399 think this game was illuminating in the fact that Jordan Miller ends up fouling out 146 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,360 and some of the defense that the Clippers were able to play in the Summer 147 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,440 League when they got ten fouls, well that changes for you once it's down 148 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,039 to six. That level of aggressiveness you can no longer play with that. 149 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:28,360 And Memphis played really well offensively in the third and fourth quarters, gain twenty 150 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,600 four points twenty six points. Remember they're just ten minute quarters, and the 151 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:37,799 Clippers had a little bit tougher of a time as Memphis was consistently scoring no 152 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:41,039 less than twenty four points per quarter and got to ninety nine and forty minutes. 153 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,279 Clippers still had the highest scoring quarter in that second quarter when they got 154 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,879 really hot and scored thirty five points. But you could see the level of 155 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:56,000 play, level of competition going up against Memphis was just difference in this game 156 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:58,679 by far the best team the Clippers had seen. Or remember they didn't have 157 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:05,399 Zach Eaedy also, so they weren't fully loaded with their complete summer league team 158 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,000 Bows Highland. Yes, could be moved. I could see that happening. 159 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,440 I'm preparing myself for that possibility. As Lawrence Frank talked about it at his 160 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,399 press conference, he kind of lumped him in with Russell Westbrook and PJ. 161 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,159 Tecker is guys that are looking for more playing time, maybe larger roles somewhere 162 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:28,000 else if the Clippers aren't able to offer that to them. Eddie Kennedy said, 163 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,679 bigs outside of Musa and Brown were atrocious. Shaking my head, yeah, 164 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:39,759 I thought for the most part throughout summer league. Unfortunately, Bannon really 165 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:43,360 struggled. Eleven minutes, three points, one of two he did have. 166 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,600 I think it was an and one opportunity. Yeah, those three points came 167 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:50,159 off and and one off a really nice pass from Jordan Miller, who had 168 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:56,440 a sequence of plays in the first half. And let's get more in depth 169 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,159 on Jordan Miller in this game, who really showed out and was one of 170 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,720 the best Summer League players, not just the Clippers, best in the NBA. 171 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:09,279 He had a put back to start with, then a three with a 172 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,879 bad lineup. He really had to take a lot of the scoring load and 173 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:18,039 put it on his shoulders and carry. Then a layup off a nice feed 174 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:22,120 on an interior pass I think it was from Harkless. Then he had and 175 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:26,559 this was the sequence I was talking about Jordan Miller. Jordan went at Pippin 176 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:31,440 Scottie Pippen Junior on a step through for a nice layup where he really took 177 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,159 it coast to coast, then had that pass abandon for the and one instead 178 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,639 of taking it himself in transition with the Clippers having numbers, and then a 179 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:43,320 three near the end of the second quarter, went coast to coast early in 180 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,600 the third, fell to the floor. No foul was called, just another 181 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:50,759 tough layup by Jordan Miller as he showed that level of physicality he can play 182 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:54,559 with even though you know he's not the biggest guy out there, he still 183 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,120 has that body control. We talked about the acceleration to deceleration that we saw 184 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:07,639 from Jordan Miller. It was talked about by Justin Russo in an article Rousseau 185 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:11,559 excuse me, in an article recently where he saw guys doing that to him. 186 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:16,440 He needed to make that adjustment. You saw it throughout summer league. 187 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,159 But a couple other plays that I wanted to highlight. In this one, 188 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:26,240 he had a four point play and then another three in the fourth quarter, 189 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:31,159 started to take over a little bit, but then filed out at the four 190 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,399 to twenty mark of the fourth So for the Clippers to get down by eight 191 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:41,000 battle back have a one point lead after that Cam Christie three pointer with about 192 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,440 a minute left without Jordan Miller on the floor, It did say something about 193 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:50,159 this squad level of talent and scrappiness and kind of a will to win and 194 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:56,840 battle back there. We got a prediction here from Mayor mccheesey. My prediction 195 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:03,000 is Tucker and Bones get traded in some scenario together. Well, that's probably 196 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,159 what they were looking for at the trade deadline the All Star break, and 197 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:10,279 they were unhappy and then got sent home, So wouldn't be shocked it all 198 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,879 by that. Jimmy talked about Dennis making a poor basketball or having a poor 199 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:18,519 basketball. IQ In the fourth quarter they were up by one, he had 200 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:26,399 a bad turnover trying to probe the interior of the defense within the restricted area 201 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,759 and made a pass that I don't think Mussa Diabate was ready for. That 202 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:38,759 led to a turnover that was a tough one time and circumstances, inopportune turnover, 203 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,559 you could say, from ray J Dennis, but he also was someone 204 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,759 that shined and then the Clippers that's really needed in the summer league. But 205 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,519 after a Jigi Jackson missed late, it was Kobe Brown who was relentless trying 206 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:56,039 to force the issue a little bit picked up probably a little bit of a 207 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,600 fortunate foul. I'd say Memphis could have challenged it, although I think upon 208 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:03,000 replace it would have been a foul, And even the foul on Jordan Miller, 209 00:17:03,079 --> 00:17:06,640 I thought that might have gotten overturned. It was an offensive foul. 210 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,079 For his sixth foul, he was going to his left. They said he 211 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,839 led with his left shoulder. Well, he's a lefty. He was going 212 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,480 into his shooting motion. I don't think that was an unnatural basketball movement. 213 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,839 So Clipper's guy got a tough break there on that fourth foul by Jordan Miller. 214 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,000 But then again late it was Kobe Brown drawing another foul getting to the 215 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,440 basket, which he really did over and over again. To the ball game. 216 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,880 He only made one three, the only three he took, so six 217 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,720 of seven from the field. He was perfect from two. Kobe Brown getting 218 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:45,359 to his seventeen points, but unfortunately missed that free throw to tie the game 219 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,880 with one point seven seconds left, ended up in a jump ball with point 220 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,119 one seconds left, which means it was pretty much an impossible play unless he 221 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:59,319 tipped it in off the jump as that ethan legal would have been more of 222 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,240 a miracle than the point for Derek Fisher turnaround jumper where I think they started 223 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,400 the clock a little bit late in San Antonio for whatever reason there, but 224 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,160 that was back in two thousand and four. Why are you talking about old 225 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,680 stuff? Adam Mayor mccheesey asked, did anybody go to the into a dumb 226 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,480 event? Yesterday? Stadium looked incredible. Unfortunately I was not able to attend. 227 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:26,440 Would have liked to have been there that Mexican underscore. Nara says, 228 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:30,920 I would like the Clippers to use Norman, Tucker and Bones for a trade. 229 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,920 Maybe Julius Randall, interesting kpj Mann or Miller could take Norman's six man 230 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:44,119 role. That's been talked about a little bit. Norman Powell. We mentioned 231 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,960 it going into last season. We felt like he was one of their best 232 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,720 trade assets. Not necessarily that we wanted him to be traded because of his 233 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,680 value to this team. I thought he should have finished top three and six 234 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Man of the Year voting, But just because he's a after guy now, 235 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:07,799 he still has owed eighteen million annually over the next two years. I think 236 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,720 if he was an expiring contract, it'd be a lot easier to move him. 237 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,519 Julius Randall will definitely add a different element to this Clippers team and give 238 00:19:15,559 --> 00:19:18,519 them that more traditional power forward. Move Kawhi back to the three. Then 239 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,519 you have a decision to make. You're gonna bring Terrence Man off the bench 240 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:27,079 and start in the back court James Harden next to Derek Jones Junior, or 241 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,839 James Harden next to Terrence Man, who finally got the starting job and by 242 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:34,079 the way the Clippers are about. I don't know forty games over five hundred 243 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:40,799 when Terrence Man starts, so that would add a different wrinkle to rotations in 244 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,599 lineups. I don't know. Julius Randall. He is a good regular season 245 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,079 type of innings eater, a big body. Obviously settles for jumpers, though 246 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,480 a lot more than I think you guys realize or anybody that's talking about getting 247 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:56,480 him realizes. The New York Knicks fan base at times has been very frustrated 248 00:19:56,519 --> 00:20:03,079 with him, and his play efficiency has definitely dropped off in the playoffs. 249 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:07,880 He's had a couple of miserable playoff series for the Knicks. Still a young 250 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:14,319 player, I want to say, is around twenty eight years of age at 251 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:19,720 this point twenty nine. And his contract situation, let's check on that here. 252 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,920 I'm not sure because I thought they just paid him. Recently, they 253 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,599 gave him a four year, one hundred and seventeen million dollar extension I think 254 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,480 after that bad playoff series, so he have one or two years left Julius 255 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:41,799 Randall Orange Julius left on that contract. If the Internet would like to cooperate 256 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,920 with me, it's neither here nor there at the moment. Because it's a 257 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,480 bit of a hypothetical here, we'll move along. Chunk Sampson says, Norm 258 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:52,359 is a playable post. He's a player with floor spacing. I think he's 259 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,680 more valuable than we give him credit for. I agree with you, especially 260 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:03,039 when you consider Norm was not just in the clipper best lineup with the Powell 261 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,599 Rangers with him in place of Terrence Man, with the starters, that closing 262 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,680 lineup next to Paul George, Kawhi, Leonard James Harden to Viatza Zubas the 263 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,200 Powell Rangers, that was one of the better lineups when you look at lineup 264 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:21,599 data in the NBA. They crushed teams and it was that spacing with Norman 265 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,279 Powell, who was good enough defensively even with those guys all around him to 266 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:30,720 still not be too much of a negative on that end. So probably has 267 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:33,839 gone a little bit underrated. Now know Paul George, so you can make 268 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:37,720 the argument that, okay, you don't have the Powell Rangers in that iteration 269 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:42,119 of it anymore, but has normally been more valuable than because they just need 270 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,359 more of a scoring punch. I really do feel like as good as the 271 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,440 Clippers have improved or as much as they have improved defensively with the moves they 272 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,400 have made, but bringing in not just Chris Dunn recently as that finally conson 273 00:21:53,440 --> 00:22:00,440 mad with Russell Westbrook leaving, but Derek Jones Junior and Nicholas Batoomback is much 274 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,960 of a defensive identity as I think they're creating, which is smart. They 275 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:10,720 need more creators on the offensive ent. Norman Powell is one of those guys 276 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:15,160 that is instant offense for them. Without Paul George, you need, I 277 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,240 think another one of those guys. Now. Obviously, Kevin Porter Junior is 278 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:26,319 being investigated by the NBA for the off the court issues. Some people have 279 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,160 said he could be the replacement for Norman Powell. We don't even know what 280 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,920 his availability is going to be because the NBA is just starting to investigate that. 281 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,799 So that's difficult to say that, Oh, he could just soak up 282 00:22:37,839 --> 00:22:41,279 some of those minutes. And he's a much younger, less proven player, 283 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:47,440 but has average almost twenty points per game in the NBA. On the court, 284 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,839 he obviously has been a bucket. Art h says, I would love 285 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,160 John Collins to play power forward for this team and let KOHI go back to 286 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:00,200 the three. He should be affordable to get if Utah is tanking. John 287 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:07,519 Collins has been a name out there for quite some time. Clippernation any of 288 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,680 them clamoring for John Collins for quite some time. It is getting exhausting. 289 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,279 So I go back to Julius Randall. Speaking of power forwards. He will 290 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,720 be thirty by the end of the season, making twenty eight million dollars. 291 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,319 He has a player option for next season at thirty million, so he has 292 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,839 a good season, he would opt out and become a free agent and look 293 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:33,799 for another big contract. You may be getting a rental in that situation, 294 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:40,039 John Collins, if you want to look at him and his contract situation. 295 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:47,440 I think he's making around twenty three million, I want to say. And 296 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:56,200 he's also right in the same situation too, that's guaranteed this season and the 297 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,200 next season. Just like Julius Ndol, he'd have a decision to make after 298 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,480 this year. For a pl option for twenty six million at the age of 299 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:07,480 twenty eight, he likely opt out regardless, he's young enough to get at 300 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:12,519 least maybe not more annually, but a bigger contract. I'm not sure. 301 00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:17,440 Still, if we've had a good enough sample size or a good enough understanding 302 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,680 of Kawhi Leonard and what takes less wear and tear off of his body playing 303 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,200 the three and running around the perimeter more, or playing the four and having 304 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,440 to bang in the post more with players that are bigger than him and guard 305 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:34,519 up more. Obviously, he got injured at the end of last season playing 306 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:38,079 the four. Before that, he was playing the three and getting injured at 307 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:44,240 the end of seasons. It's really difficult to kind of delineate the reasons for 308 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:47,640 all of this. It's just I think bad luck, and it's hard to 309 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:52,519 ascertain exactly why he got injured or blame him playing a certain position on these 310 00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:00,119 injuries. We have Mayor mccheesey. Again, I saw a potential lineup the 311 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,519 Clippers big screen at the Dome, Harden, Powell, Man, Leonard and 312 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:11,039 Zubas. That's a possible brand new starting five. I would say in this 313 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,799 case, Leonard's still playing the four and Norburne, Powell and James Harden defensively 314 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:22,160 in the backcourt. This is great, Bob. Maybe they just hadn't had 315 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,440 the picture yet for the into a Dome. For Derek's Jones Junior. I 316 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,039 don't know if you saw the player profile three sixty on Terrence Man, who 317 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:33,640 was also in attendance for that when they were showing off the new Halo board 318 00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:38,279 not just dual sided in four K, three hundred and sixty degrees, but 319 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,559 on top of it, some T shirt can is that could reach anyone in 320 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:47,400 the arena and into a dome. That'll be fun. This is a fun 321 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,440 one. Pooky Lover says Thunder really won the trade. Well, you can 322 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,240 make the argument they haven't gotten past the second round since the trade, and 323 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,960 the Clippers got to the Western Conference Finals. They just brought in Isaiah Hartenstein. 324 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,480 They were the number one seed the West last season and are getting better. 325 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:12,720 So are things looking like they'll win the trade? Sure, nothing is 326 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:17,880 guaranteed at this point. I still think the Clippers did the right thing. 327 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,640 I said a month before Paul George ended up opting out and going to the 328 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,400 Philadelphia seventy six ers for over two hundred million dollars that I would not give 329 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,680 him the max. I think the Clippers did the right thing and standing their 330 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,640 ground and not going into that sunk cost of just well, we have to 331 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,920 pay him because he was part of the trade or the reason they trade Sga 332 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,200 technically, even though they did it to get Kawhi Leonard two. And if 333 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,119 you leave that context out in the OKC Thunder trade, oh you're either being 334 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,680 disingenuous or just a casual because that was the reason the Clippers did it. 335 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:57,839 So I think it's still a little bit TBD. Does it look like the 336 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,160 OKAC Thunder are going to doubling the trade? Sure at this point is pointing 337 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,079 that way, and they have about a five year window. It looks like 338 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,759 that's opening up for them to win the championship. But we always overestimate with 339 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,119 these things and think, oh, this young team or this team is going 340 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,039 to be a dynasty. We thought that with the Denver Nuggets. They lost 341 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,359 last year in the second round to Minnesota, and the last team to go 342 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,759 back to back was the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors team in twenty seventeen twenty 343 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,160 eighteen. So with the new CBA, it's even tougher to go back to 344 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:42,640 back in this league and have a run of success like we've seen twenty five 345 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,000 years ago and just five to ten years ago. It changes everything, it 346 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,279 really does. Coach d Sports Review says for closing purposes. I love a 347 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:57,000 hardened man. Kawhi batoom Zoo slash kai Jones lineup, guys, I think 348 00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:00,960 we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves with kai Jones. He's gonna get 349 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,759 a shot in training camp to prove himself. He may not be on the 350 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:10,359 team to start the year. Mobamba's there. Mose Diabate the last three games, 351 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,079 especially in Summer League, looked really good. Can we pump the brakes 352 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,440 please on the Kai Jones stuff? It sounds kind of crazy at this point. 353 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:25,480 I think he's averaged two points per game as a professional. Let's let's 354 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,319 relax a little bit. I don't think we should be throwing him Intoeddy closing 355 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,720 lineup. I can't, I can't. I can't do it today. Can 356 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:41,240 we get back? Also the summer league talk a little bit more here speaking 357 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:47,319 of Musa Diabate, So Moosa had a putback dunk in the first off of 358 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,880 Cam Christy miss from distance, then beat his man down the floor, got 359 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,359 a long outlet pass think it was from Harkless. Had a dunk that put 360 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,160 him up thirty two to thirty after the Clippers were down nine ear against Memphis 361 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:06,519 in the Summer League semi finals. I was impressed with during a thirteen to 362 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,799 ozhero run by the Clippers, the longest run one sided run in the game. 363 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,559 When they got back into it and took the lead after being down by 364 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,160 nine. He caught a lob that was a little bit too high, put 365 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440 it on the floor, and then put it back up and laid it up. 366 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,160 Nice to see that decision making for Musa Diabate, not forcing it, 367 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,079 composed himself, got the easy layup to go, then had an oop caught 368 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,480 from the love or for the love of ray J. Dennis in the third 369 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:41,880 quarter. And I was impressed by this because his man tried to beat him 370 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,279 down the floor on the other end. After catching this lob, Musa Diabate 371 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,720 got all the way back on defense and made a play. It showed off 372 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,720 his motor. That's initially what popped with Musa Diabate, that he was this 373 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,400 high energy guy. I don't know if I've seen enough of that after the 374 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,039 first couple games, especially after the first game he played it against Portland in 375 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,599 that big twenty point comeback where you got to close things out in the fourth 376 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,039 quarter. I think there's been some paralysis by analysis with Musi Diabate where he 377 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,359 hasn't been playing as instinctual as the game was just too sped up. I'm 378 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000 hoping now going into his third year, things are slowing down from him, 379 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:22,240 and there were really good signs in the Summer League over the last three games, 380 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:30,599 especially to that point. Then it was Amari Bailey finding him for an 381 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,039 easy one, but Moose had a big rebound and put back dunk in the 382 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:38,839 fourth off a ray J Dennis miss and then got a nice push shot to 383 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,680 go in the key. So overall, Mussa Diavate kind of played big down 384 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,240 the stretch of this ball game. Oh no, oh, no, no, 385 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:57,920 Greg, he says, no Kay Jones at for kJ train in full 386 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:07,319 effect. Okay, Okay, now we have Jose asking Adam did the Clippers 387 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:14,079 own their first round pick next year? That is a good question. I 388 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:18,880 saw in an article from Law that there's something with them and the Houston Rockets 389 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,240 and the OKC thunder where there could be a sweet spot where they might get 390 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:27,160 their first round pick. I need to read that again to confirm that. 391 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:33,599 My understanding right now is the next first round pick they will have is in 392 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,119 twenty twenty seven. But that's still the lesser of two first round picks. 393 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,359 Is okayse as the first round pick swap with them, So tough to say 394 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,160 at this point, it's a little bit convoluted. Coach D Sports Review said, 395 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,799 Moosa balld out today, but he is too small to play the five 396 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:56,480 in the NBA. I don't think that's necessarily the case in two days NBA. 397 00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:01,200 He just needs to be a little bit stronger. I think he's capable 398 00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:06,440 against certain teams, against certain matchups with how many teams want to play five 399 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,559 out and how many teams will play small ball out there. Coach D Sports 400 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:14,880 Review, who's still taking that lf for talking about Kain Jones and a closing 401 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,759 lineup? Joshua Smith says, you have people like the pull Up that like 402 00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,720 the pull Up Basketball podcast talking about the Clippers should have gave PGA max contract 403 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,640 and this dude works for the Clippers. I do uh, And I think, 404 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,000 well, I know where my bread is buttered. And you can say 405 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,039 I'm biased all you want. I think I can easily make the argument for 406 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:39,559 not giving Paul Georgia max was going to put them over the second aprin after 407 00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:45,000 what occurred last season. Another year where they're two top players, could not 408 00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:51,440 stay healthy enough when it mattered most. And then Paul George only taking fifteen 409 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,400 shots per game in a playoff series against the Dallas Mavericks, where Kawhi in 410 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,759 two games was a shell of himself and they desperately needed Paul George is step 411 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:06,920 up and at least go out firing please. I think that cemented his fate 412 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,039 as a Clipper. Guys, if you want to get into it a little 413 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:14,799 bit, we've talked about it ad nauseum on C and D. I recently 414 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,359 just went on with Rogan and Rodney on a five to seven LA Sports on 415 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Friday to discuss this very issue. Because Fred Rogan was talking about, or 416 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,559 at least bringing up the idea of them paying the wrong guy. He was 417 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:36,440 of the belief that you should have paid Paul George and not Kawhi Leonard. 418 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Let me push back against that. Let me make it simple for everyone here. 419 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:53,400 So the difference in games missed between Paul George and Kawhi Leonard is lesser 420 00:33:53,440 --> 00:34:00,799 of an issue than the difference of quality performances when those guys are available. 421 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:07,679 The difference in high level of play versus Kawhi and Paul George is greater that 422 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,119 difference than the amount of games missed between the two of them. Paul George 423 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,480 has only played about five more games than Kawhi Leonard over the last two years. 424 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:21,599 Paul George, even with Kawhi Leonard missing an entire season due to the 425 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,039 ACL injury, only ended up playing about forty more games in his Clippers career. 426 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,679 I'd rather go with the guy, who, yes, has had more 427 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,920 injury concerns, but when he's on the court in Kawhi Leonard plays like a 428 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,119 number one at all times, plays like he wants to be the best player 429 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:43,760 on the court, plays like a top five player in the NBA, plays 430 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,440 like, I don't know, the most efficient player ever over a thirty game 431 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:52,119 stretch in NBA history, which was a run he had just this last season 432 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,559 where the Clippers went twenty five and five over those thirty games, and Kawhi 433 00:34:55,559 --> 00:35:00,480 shot I think fifty seven percent from the floor and three from three over a 434 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:07,239 thirty game sample size, highest efficiency numbers ever in NBA history over a thirty 435 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,360 game span. I'm going with that guy over the guy and Paul George, 436 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:16,920 who has said multiple times he's the number two to Kawhi Leonard being the number 437 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,400 one. That is not what they brought him in to do. And it's 438 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,239 one thing to say it, it's another thing to do it. He definitely 439 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,320 plays like the number two. He was supposed to be, the one B 440 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:35,519 to the one A. He was coming off a season in twenty nineteen with 441 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,199 OKC where he finished top three in MVP voting and top three and Defensive Player 442 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:46,159 of the Year voting. Here we go, Luis Lemmis says, Adam All, 443 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,159 that doesn't matter because Kawhi is never available for the playoffs. Yeah, 444 00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:54,679 Paul George the last two years, in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three 445 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,719 wasn't available in the play in in the last game and in the playoffs in 446 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:06,159 twenty three either. So the difference in miss games, including regular season playoffs 447 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:13,000 is slight between Kawhi and PG compared to the great difference there is in performance 448 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:16,360 on the court between Kawhi and Paul George, where Kwhi is just a much 449 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:22,960 better player. I cannot emphasize this enough, guys, I'm sorry. I'm 450 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,280 always gonna go with the guy who, if available, gives you a chance 451 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,599 and a much higher ceiling to beat anybody. That's who Kawhi Leonard is. 452 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,480 I understand the last four years he hasn't been available in the playoffs or at 453 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:43,400 least in their final game. I'm still taking my chances with him over Paul 454 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,840 George, who, even if he is available, is only taking fifteen shots 455 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:52,639 a game against the Dallas Mavericks. This is not hard, My goodness, 456 00:36:52,199 --> 00:37:00,559 all right, I'm having the John Cusack high fidelity moment, a gif I 457 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:09,320 love where he's just like breaking the fourth wall asking the audience, how is 458 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:15,960 this possible? One of my favorite movies ever. Jack Black scrating it too. 459 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,280 Yes, Dereck Jones Jr. Locked up Paul George in that series. 460 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,239 Joe depf points it out, Derek Jones Junior made PG unavailable during the playoffs. 461 00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:31,639 Basically, wouldn't you rather have a guy that, when he's on the 462 00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:39,559 court actually always plays like a superstar in Kawhi Leonard as opposed to Paul George 463 00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,480 might be playing like a top ten player that night or a top forty player 464 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,360 that night. I don't know how many times do people have to say, 465 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,400 is Paul George just in a place where he wants to be a role player? 466 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,440 How often have I heard that over the years. He's so inconsistent. 467 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,760 Guys, I love him, Glad he got his money, But come on, 468 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,320 Louise Lemmas says, Adam, how many more seasons are we going to 469 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,920 keep defending Kawhi. I'm defending Kawhi versus Paul George as why I'd rather have 470 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,519 Kawhi than Paul George. Going back to the argument Fred Rogan made where You'd 471 00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,840 rather keep Paul George than Kawhi, Leonard, No, you would not. 472 00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:22,960 You'd rather have the guy that gives you the highest ceiling when available. Considering 473 00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:30,559 they're both unavailable often, there's no defending that they've both been extremely injury prone. 474 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,320 Joshua Smith says, how would you feel if the Clippers give gave him 475 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,239 a no trade clause to Paul George? Not great? Wouldn't have done it. 476 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,840 They didn't do it with Kawhi. They weren't going to do it with 477 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:50,719 Paul George. I tried to explain this in January. When they gave Kawhi 478 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,159 that extension, that meant the Clippers were setting the market for their roster. 479 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,440 Everybody else was either going to take a little bit less or Paul George was 480 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,719 gonna have to take exactly that. He could say on his podcast that he 481 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:09,239 was ready to take that and they weren't offering it. Well, reports and 482 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:15,199 guys like Tomarrizzarali were saying they were offering it around the All Star break when 483 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,320 they tabled talks. I think the offer was there. I believe the offer 484 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,199 was there then. It certainly was there. Later on Paul George admitted that 485 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,639 and then said, now we're in the ballpark. Well, you said before 486 00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,679 you were going to take it, So you were upset because they lowballed you 487 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,000 at the start of the negotiations two for sixty. Oh wait, it wasn't 488 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:39,360 two for sixty. That sixty was on top of the fifty opting into already 489 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,000 in the last year of the contract, so it was actually one. Ten 490 00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,679 was the starting point after two seasons where he only played eighty seven games and 491 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,960 wasn't available for the playoffs. I don't think that's low balling. I'm not 492 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,960 trying to bash Paul George. I'm trying to give you reasons why the Clippers 493 00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,119 acted in this way in keeping Kawhi for him, and why they didn't want 494 00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:05,360 to give Paul George the BAX I think it's pretty obvious and trying to clear 495 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,599 up some of the miscommunication or mischaracterizations going on, like, oh, they 496 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:13,519 only offered him two for sixty, Well, that's ridiculous. They didn't. 497 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:20,239 That wasn't true. It was a misrepresentation or just an omission by Paul George. 498 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,079 I don't know if it was on purpose, but everybody took that two 499 00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,880 for sixty and ran with it when it was really one hundred and ten million 500 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,400 dollars which was the starting point of the negotiation period at the beginning of last 501 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:38,199 season, where then, as Lawrence Frank put it, said, as soon 502 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,440 as they realized how good this team could be with James Harden, they uped 503 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,519 the offers without the agents of Paul George and Kawhi Leonard even asking they upped 504 00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:50,639 it. From their side, I think they were being more than fair. 505 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:57,440 Please, Oh here's somebody, Please say your name, say my name. 506 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,199 We have to fire Lawrence Frank and get the Warriors on Jim. You can't 507 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,679 even remember the guy's name is Bob Myers. Now I think Lawrence Frank is 508 00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,079 the guy I'm going with. L Frank. I love everything he said at 509 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:10,760 the press conference. I love everything they have done so far this offseason. 510 00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:15,480 This is the first time in a while you really get to see Lawrence Frank 511 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:20,679 Cook because the restrictions are off with them being under the second apron and the 512 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,920 first apron. Now you're getting to see them play a little bit and build 513 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:31,079 a team the way they would like to. Let's see here. Jordan Pollard 514 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:36,280 says one to ten was the starting point national media with a lie. Well, 515 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,480 it was. They were just going off what Paul George was saying. 516 00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:42,199 You should push the truth more to the media. I do. I follow 517 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:47,960 out of may On X. I do it often a lot. Let me 518 00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:55,360 change the title of this episode while I'm talking here if it lets me Clippers 519 00:41:55,679 --> 00:42:04,760 lose in semi finals, just to be a little bit more accurate here won't 520 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,199 let me at the moment, and I don't want to leave what we got 521 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:13,480 going here. Oh I think it did, so I'm sorry if I'm ranting 522 00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:19,719 a little bit, but I just want to be very clear to the false 523 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,239 narratives, the casuals out there, the false narrative pushers and the casuals out 524 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:29,840 there. Can we be accurate with our information and that can be the starting 525 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:36,159 point of any conversations about the Paul George situation and everything else. Let's get 526 00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:40,280 the right information out there and then have a dialogue. I hate when people 527 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,320 say that I hate myself right now, have a conversation. Let's not make 528 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,559 it anything bigger than it needs to be. Luise Lemmis says, I think 529 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:53,239 Man and Zoo will step up as leaders now. Hope so at twenty seven 530 00:42:53,280 --> 00:43:00,159 and twenty eight it's time. I hope the Clippers allow Wow them to leave 531 00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:07,360 more. I hope the Clippers embolden them, encourage them to take more shots, 532 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:13,599 because you got a lot of touches that can be redistributed now between multiple 533 00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,800 players. With Paul George gone from this team, a lot more guys have 534 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:22,000 to take shots. A lot more guys have to be cogs or not coggs. 535 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,320 They have to be part of the machine on offense. To me, 536 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,639 if you're going to be successful this season, Big Zoo has to be much 537 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:37,039 more involved offensively. I said in the series against Dallas, I wanted to 538 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:42,719 see him get seventeen and ten. If the Clippers are going to win this 539 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:49,960 series, Big Zoo was my X factor. He has to average seventeen and 540 00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:55,440 ten. Well, what happened in that series. In game one he has 541 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:02,079 a twenty in ten game he was being featured, he was looking dominant. 542 00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:08,920 He was making the Dallas Mavericks look very small out there with Daniel Gafford and 543 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:15,119 Derek Lively. Big Zoo was feasting and the Clippers won that first game by 544 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:22,119 twenty and Zoo was the best player on the court, So he didn't end 545 00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,760 up exactly averaging seventeen to ten, which maybe when they lost the series, 546 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:34,480 he was at sixteen and nine, but I need around there around seventeen and 547 00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:42,079 eleven. During the regular season this year with the Viza Zubas, I thought 548 00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:46,079 he and Terrence Man were better than Paul George relative to expectations against the Dallas 549 00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:52,000 Mavericks. Here was my order of best performers in that series with the Clippers. 550 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,599 James Harden obviously no debate. Sorry, Russ fans, it's over. 551 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:01,239 He was always better than Russell Westbrook. It was always obvious to most people, 552 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,559 but Russ stamps. If it's not more clear than now, well, 553 00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:13,400 Russ opted in because his value was not high enough to make any more than 554 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,480 the five million dollars. Love Russ, but I think the Clippers in the 555 00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:22,800 front office had a pretty clear picture of who is the better point guard who 556 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:28,920 has been especially at this point. James Harden averaged twenty one points in eight 557 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,280 assists in that series on forty five percent shooting from the field and thirty eight 558 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,960 percent from three against Dallas. He was their best player. Second was Big 559 00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:42,119 Zoos sixty to nine dominant times. Third to me was Terrence Man. One 560 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:47,360 of the reasons that Luca was struggling in that series relative to Luka Dancis against 561 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,519 the Clippers, still average twenty nine points, but was shooting forty percent from 562 00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,480 the field twenty three percent from three. Guess who his primary defender was, 563 00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:01,559 Terrence Man. He was awesome and still averaged nine and five boards and a 564 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:07,320 couple of assists. His defense was elite, best defense he had played ever, 565 00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:13,320 honestly, and after a season where I thought he got better as it 566 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,920 went along, certainly is shooting from the outside. Terrence Man stepped up defensively 567 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:27,760 in that series, and he was my third best player. Fourth, Paul 568 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,800 George. Can't happen, Just can't. You can't take only fifteen shots per 569 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,199 game, not with Kawhi only playing two games, not with how much they 570 00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:42,599 needed him. Clippers didn't lose that series against Dallas because of their defense. 571 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:49,840 The Dallas Mavericks ended up averaging only one hundred and seven points per game. 572 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,280 That's nothing in today's NBA. It's the Clippers offense that killed him in that 573 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,559 series, only averaging one hundred points per game. That was the difference. 574 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:09,039 So I agree Abacha Zoobots and Terrence Man probably the two most important guys coming 575 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:14,719 into this season. I thought Terrence Man could possibly be on the trademarket just 576 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,960 because they brought in Derek Jones Junior. I didn't want to see it necessarily, 577 00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:22,599 but he has a contract extension coming up. If things weren't going well 578 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,360 there, would they try to move him for Zach Lavine or somebody like that. 579 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,960 I don't think that's happening at this point. He's been one of the 580 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,719 faces of the organization. He was just the into it dome, Halo Bard 581 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,519 and Bailing. I think they love Terrence Man rightfully. So Coach d Sports 582 00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:44,119 review says, I hop on Kai gets a shot, or I hope Kai 583 00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:47,760 gets a shot. Adam not feeling it, but harden Ky Lobbs will feed 584 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,960 family as I stand on it. Sure he'll get a shot in training camp. 585 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,679 I think, but guys, him missing Summer League was huge. He's 586 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,719 way behind the eight ball now. They didn't bring up bring in Mobamba for 587 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:07,679 no reason. I hope he gets a shot too. Please say your name, 588 00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:12,079 says Coach D. I believe it would be good, but looking at 589 00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,119 as a GM, it's better to get the four to zero young Clippers for 590 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:20,800 culture and future plus chemistry. Coach D, I'm not sure what he's trying 591 00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:25,159 to say there, guys. Coach D Sports, Oh okay, he's responding 592 00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:30,360 to him. Coach D Sports is saying kai Jones is six to eleven two 593 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,760 twenty more athletic than Musa Musa's six ten to ten. If he wasn't crazy, 594 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,320 he'd still be on the Hornets. Lol. He's dealing with some mental 595 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:45,519 health issues. We shouldn't even read that part, guys. Kai Jones has 596 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:49,360 had a few good games in the NBA. He has a lot of potential 597 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,400 because of its athleticism. He also in the NBA has played in sixty seven 598 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,880 games total, and his average two point seven points per game and two rebounds 599 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:07,519 per game. Let's relax, please, uh, Lewis Lemmis says, What 600 00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:10,039 are we doing with Tucker and Bones? We need these guys trade asap. 601 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,280 I think that time may come. This thing started off talking about the Summer 602 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,599 League, and I have veered in two different subjects pertaining to the Clippers in 603 00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:24,199 this offseason. But the Clippers just lost in the semi final by one after 604 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,920 Kobe Brown unfortunately missed the second free throw at the line with one point seven 605 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,480 seconds left. Ninety nine to ninety eight is the final. The Memphis Grizzlies 606 00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:37,719 are going to the Summer League Final tomorrow night against either the Golden State Warriors 607 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:46,599 or the Miami Heat. I haven't talked enough about maybe Kobe Brown overall after 608 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:50,559 he got into foul trouble and only played a couple of minutes in the first 609 00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:52,679 quarter, picked up two fouls right away, only get six in the final 610 00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:57,679 or in the Summer League playoffs after getting ten, and he showed that he 611 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,719 was having an issue with foul trouble throughout the Summer League. It reared as 612 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,800 ugly head again, but he came back in and was aggressive. I love 613 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,280 seeing that from Kobe Brown had a three pointer in the second quarter, then 614 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:14,880 had a spinning push shot after beating his man off the dribble going to his 615 00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:19,519 left down the left alley, he spun back around and got a little hook 616 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:22,639 push shot to go, then had a scoop layup in the second quarter. 617 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,960 Looked athletic a Kobe. I mentioned this earlier. That wrap around kickout to 618 00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:30,440 Cam for three in the third quarter was beautiful. I put the highlight up 619 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,199 at follow out of may in a bank shot to start the fourth. It 620 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,440 was the first field goal the Clippers had made in six minutes. That's when 621 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,800 that twelve zero run occurred with the Memphis Grizzlies that you could say, in 622 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,360 some ways was the beginning of the end or helped a side this ball game. 623 00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:52,280 Had an and one in the fourth went at Gigi also for a tough 624 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,159 layup, but unfortunately, after forcing the issue and trying to get to the 625 00:50:55,159 --> 00:51:00,480 free throw line, he missed the second of two and the Clippers fell by 626 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:04,760 one. I'm gonna make this comp I talked about it on our recent podcast 627 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,639 on Friday Night with Chuck Mockler and Will Updyke. But I see people have 628 00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:15,039 talked about Draymond Green. That is a high level comparison or very aspirational. 629 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,400 Asking a lot and putting a lot of pressure on a young guy. Yes, 630 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,599 I see it a little bit. He's a connector out there. He 631 00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:25,000 can bring the ball up the floor at his size. I've talked about him 632 00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:29,679 being Anthony Mason in some ways with his body type, but he's not nearly 633 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,679 as strong or developed as Anthony Mason was. The guy who I think he 634 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,719 reminds me of. He's a more athletic version of slow Mo Kyle Anderson with 635 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:44,199 that connectivity with doing a lot of things really well, and he's bigger and 636 00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:47,280 stronger and more athletic, but not looking like at this point he has one 637 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,599 elite skill set that's okay, you could be a great role player doing that 638 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,360 stuff. Kyle Anderson just got paid twenty seven million dollars by the Golden State 639 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,920 Warriors because of that. He just had a really good year in Minnesota. 640 00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:04,159 Not everybody is going to be an All Star that you draft, even thirtieth 641 00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:07,400 in the first round. I went over a ten year period from two thousand 642 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,880 and six to twenty sixteen, only twenty five percent of the one hundred top 643 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,400 ten picks in the first round. Only twenty five percent of those guys became 644 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:22,039 All Stars. It's really hard you get a good role player that stars in 645 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:27,880 their role. I think Kobe Brown can be that. That's a great pick. 646 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,840 Here's somebody talking about him, coach d Sports Review. Kobe really impressed 647 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,440 me when he dribble drives. Yeah, that looks better than ever power forward 648 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,599 with some ball skills. The Clippers have a need at power forward. My 649 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,599 god, Luis, I would really like market at the four uh so with 650 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,760 everyone. They don't have the assets, man, I'm sorry, I just 651 00:52:53,480 --> 00:53:00,000 guys, we gotta be smarter in this Market's gonna require our three first round 652 00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:07,920 picks at least and a couple of really good players to get Stop bringing up 653 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,679 his name. For the love of God, the Clippers can't get him. 654 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,639 They don't have the assets. The team with the fewest amount of first round 655 00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:19,320 picks over the next five years does not have the assets for lori marketing or 656 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:28,280 lowry marketing. Stop please bringing that up. You're telling everyone you're casual. 657 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,079 Louise. I'm sorry, man, got to be better in this. Gotta 658 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:37,079 be better in this. Please, let's have some realistic conversations here on CND. 659 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:43,719 They give me a damn ANEURYSM. Gray Sambay Narana uh Pack to Kobe 660 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:49,519 Brown. Kobe Brown could end up filling a need on this Clippers team. 661 00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:53,119 Right now, it looks like Kawhi Leonard still your starting power forward. I 662 00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:59,159 don't know if that's ideal unless they want to play Nicholas Batuman start him there, 663 00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:01,159 but I think but Toom's only going to play eighteen to twenty minutes a 664 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:06,000 night. So if you start him in that first stint with Kawhi and he 665 00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,000 plays the first eight minutes of the ball game, you have what ten minutes 666 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:13,760 left to play him the final three quarters, and it'll likely be in some 667 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:19,079 closing lineups. But Toomb's still like that. He's still that good. He's 668 00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:27,000 a snatch him change in burning tattoos. He's like that. Nicholas Batoum is 669 00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:30,599 an option there sometimes, but I don't know if it's a great option to 670 00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:34,920 turn two in the starting lineup because he'll be playing limited minutes at least in 671 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,679 the regular season. Save him, preserve him. Could you play Derek Jones 672 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:47,000 Junior there? I don't think so. He's smaller than Kawhi. He can 673 00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:51,800 guard up there at times, but I think you'd rather have Kawhi there. 674 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,320 Can you play Terrence Mann there? Same situation smaller. He can do it 675 00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:01,320 at times, but Louis, what are you doing? He is trying to 676 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,920 kill me. He's trying to kill me. Let's bring back Morris. If 677 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,400 we can't get marketing, we're bringing back Morris. This is not the way, 678 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,320 guys, This is not the way. Even though Marcus Morris played a 679 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,480 little bit better after moving around the league and playing some for the Cleveland Cavaliers 680 00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:19,960 last season, shout out Marcus Morris is still a good clipper. Overall, 681 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:25,440 things didn't end great, but I get it. Not an option. So 682 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,880 could Jordan Miller play the four? I don't think so, not right now, 683 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:39,639 not heavy minutes. There could still be a move being made. I 684 00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:43,559 don't think k PJ. Tucker is gonna end up being the guy starting at 685 00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:50,000 the four, even after he somehow started a must win Game six in that 686 00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:53,800 position. I think it was a minus ten the first five minutes of the 687 00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:00,840 game. Didn't understand that move. Uh, this is kind of interesting. 688 00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:04,840 Coach de Sports Review getting a lot of love here in the comments. Kobe 689 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:14,360 remind you of Randall without a mid range numper. Not really slight comparison Randall. 690 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,400 I think that Kentucky team did they get at least to the final four. 691 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,480 Was in the championship game. I mean, he was an absolute beast. 692 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,519 That was the team that ended up beating Wichita State. Great game in 693 00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:32,920 the tournament. Julius Randall got drafted that high for a reason and then broke 694 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,480 his leg immediately early on with the Lakers. But he's been an All star 695 00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:42,599 in this league. He might have been an injury replacement. That's high mark, 696 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,559 high bar to reach. I don't see that many similarities. I see 697 00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:52,000 him as more of a jack of all trades, maybe a master of none 698 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,119 at this point. That's okay. He's still young and that can get you 699 00:56:55,199 --> 00:57:00,400 minutes. In the NBA do a lot of things really well. You don't 700 00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:07,480 have to have a perfect skill or an elite skill in one particular area to 701 00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,519 get minutes. That may be who Kobe Brown is right now. That can 702 00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:14,800 still get you on the floor. And I felt like when they gave him 703 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,199 that ten game sample size in November last year, he was getting better and 704 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,639 adjusting to the league the longer he played. I remember against the Golden State 705 00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:25,480 Warriors, he struggled at times, had a really bad close out and foul 706 00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:31,119 on Klay Thompson, I think on a three pointer, and he still is 707 00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:37,440 dealing with some of those fouls falling for fakes. The game's still moving a 708 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,199 little bit too fast. If it's happening in summer league, still, it's 709 00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:44,679 going to be happening at the NBA level. I don't know if he's ready 710 00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:50,159 for, you know, a plethora of minutes yet, so we'll see. 711 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,840 I'd rather see them get some of these young guys minutes, and I think 712 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,840 that's what the Clippers aim is and what could be a transitional period the next 713 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,719 two years. It's hard to make the art you lose Paul George. Even 714 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,559 with the way they reloaded, I think it's admirable. I think it's the 715 00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:07,559 right way to go. They're leaning into defense. But it's hard to make 716 00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:12,599 the argument that without Paul George they're championship contender. I think it would have 717 00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:15,480 been hard to make, maybe even with him, because of injury conserves. 718 00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:22,159 So this could be a period where the Clippers are biding their time a little 719 00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:28,159 bit and looking for opportunities while staying really competitive because they have flexibility on the 720 00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:34,719 payroll to do that. So young guys should get more opportunities, and I 721 00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,000 think they will. I think it's a time to develop. You have to. 722 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,719 The new CBA demands you to play young guys to find out what you 723 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:51,760 have with these young guys. I just I don't know how you get by 724 00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:57,760 if you're not in the NBA, If you're not having young guys out there 725 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,800 for spot minutes here and there to play real minutes and rotations next to stars, 726 00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:07,079 how can you have sustained success with the new CBA. You have to 727 00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:09,320 draft well. The only way to know if you drafted well is to play 728 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:16,280 guys. That's what I'm looking forward to seeing. I truly believe this Clipper's 729 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:22,199 front office and coaching staff is aligned in that fact. That hard truth now 730 00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:30,719 that you just know that young guys are gonna have to play, and you're 731 00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:32,800 gonna have to go through the going pains with them to let them develop in 732 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,840 this league. Denver has been really good about that the last two years and 733 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:44,519 still win a championship doing so. We'll see Clibernation, as always, really 734 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:47,320 appreciates you love doing these lives. This will be the last one after a 735 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:52,119 Summer League game, as the Clippers fall by one. Ninety nine. Ninety 736 00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,400 eight was your final in favor of the Memphis Scrizzlies. They move on to 737 00:59:54,519 --> 01:00:00,320 the championship game tomorrow night against either Can I get a score date? Can 738 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,800 I? Can I get a Summer League score update? Anyone watching that game 739 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,079 going on right now? I think it's happening live between the Oh I Got 740 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:14,559 it for you at the half the Golden State Warriors up forty seven to forty 741 01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:19,079 five over the Miami Heat. So good one that will decide that the Memphis 742 01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:22,360 Krizzley's face in the championship game tomorrow night. But I thought there was a 743 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,599 lot to take away and a lot of positives, mostly to take away from 744 01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:31,280 the Clippers during this Summer League runs to the semi finals. This was as 745 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,920 encouraging as you could get with the progression we saw from Jordan Miller turning into 746 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,280 a guy who coming into this game was averaging twenty five points per game in 747 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,119 the Summer League and had another twenty point game in this one, fortunately in 748 01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:49,159 a losing effort where he would file out, but he had twenty eight points, 749 01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:52,559 so his average is only going up. Make the argument was one of, 750 01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:54,239 if not the best player this Summer League. I don't think a lot 751 01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:58,760 of people expected that. I don't think people expected the three point shooting to 752 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,960 be there at the level it was after I think he only shot thirty percent 753 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,920 over the last year in the Summer League. But maybe it's something he's working 754 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,840 on. Another tool to his toolbox be a three three and D players. 755 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,559 That's what we thought he could project out to. I see some Trevor Ariza 756 01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:17,559 in his game, a little bit like that from Jordan Miller. Trevor Revesa 757 01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:21,360 was a good role player in this league for a long time three and D 758 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,960 guy. But Kobe Brown finishing with seventeen after a slower starts in the Summer 759 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,119 League a strong finish for him, even though he missed that free throw. 760 01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:32,800 MOUs Diabante same thing that took him a little bit to get his sea legs 761 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:39,239 as a Clipper finished with sixteen points six boards. Came on in the third 762 01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:45,599 game against the Milwaukee Bucks, continued strong play afterwards, and then Cam Christy 763 01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:52,679 his best game in a clutch opportunity in a must win situation to move on 764 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,000 at twenty two points, a clutch three in the far side corn to help 765 01:01:55,039 --> 01:02:00,519 them take the lead seven of thirteen from the floor. Six of those seven 766 01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:05,800 makes from Cam. I am him Christy with his brother in attendance, once 767 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,280 again watching him and doing a court sided interview. I want to hear it. 768 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,079 I follow out of may on X twenty seven minutes, twenty two points, 769 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,039 six three pointers for Cam Christy had the first nine points of the game 770 01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:21,760 for the Clippers. Can't say enough about him. He's starting nineteen in three 771 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,079 days. Guys. Awesome, awesome pick from the Clippers. Let me ask 772 01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:31,760 you this. If the draft takes place today, here's what I'm saying. 773 01:02:34,159 --> 01:02:37,440 I don't think Cam Christy's going number forty six. He might get into the 774 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,559 first round with how good he's looked in summer league. I'll ask you that. 775 01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:45,880 Get to me. I follow out of May as we're ending this pod. 776 01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:51,280 But I think Cam Christy has shown enough and enough people i've taken notice 777 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:58,480 of that sweet shooting stroke that he would be maybe a late first round pick 778 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:04,280 if the draft started today. I really believe that that's how far he's come 779 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,599 this quickly, just by the way he's performed in summer league. So one 780 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:14,119 more guy to highlight here. For the love of ray J. Dennis thought 781 01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:16,639 he was good overall, help control the offense. Had a bad game today, 782 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,639 five points with just five turnovers to for assists, with five turnovers too 783 01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:29,239 many to for assists, but overall he showed out Elizah Harkless that defensive intensity 784 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,599 from him and made the Summer League MVP for the Clippers. Dante Jones, 785 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,679 their head coach, said he's trying to make sure these guys are ready and 786 01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:40,480 staying ready and playing the right way so that when they move up to play 787 01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:47,880 under Coach Lou they'll be prepared for those minutes when they should come. Stay 788 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,519 ready, Clippers, stay ready, so you don't have to get ready. 789 01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:54,559 I think Montrez Harrow was the first to say it back in twenty eighteen. 790 01:03:57,159 --> 01:04:02,639 This has been another live edition of clips in Dip. Amouna Moslin for Chuck 791 01:04:02,719 --> 01:04:10,360 Mockler for will Updyke, signing off. We love you guys. We'll talk 792 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,360 to you on a future episode of the Clips in Dip podcast. I have 793 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,599 a good rest of your Sunday. Check out Game of Thrones House the dragons 794 01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:23,679 been better than I thought. Turns out more dragons there better