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WAMS. Welcome back to my the
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Steve, He's Jay, and we
have Sid doing some breaking news his eye

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on the ball, breaking news on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right,

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we'll start off our breaking news with
some I guess bigger stuff related to college

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football. The I don't know if
you guys have seen the stuff about the

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there's a group of university presidents and
executives. They want to form a super

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league, which we kind of have
mentioned in the past was kind of it

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looked like things were heading that way, but they have a plan in place.

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I was reading about it. Basically, they want seven ten team divisions,

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the top seventy seams, okay,
and then they want to second tier

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with the rest of the FBS teams, and they want to have like a

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like the Premier League does delegation,
relegation and that. But they haven't met

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with anybody yet, any of the
big conferences or the TV people. Yeah,

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actually they I read that a lot
of the dinners have been called off,

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so I believe as of right now, things are heading in the college

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football playoff direction. Yeah. So
it was an interesting proposal. Hey,

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did you see the whole thing?
No? So, so what they're saying

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is that there would be the seventy
teams that make up what what what had

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been or was the Power five right
when the PAC public as it was,

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and then with SMU now being in
the ACC and it comes out to seventy

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teams on the nose. So they
thought, okay, it makes so much

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sense. You don't feel like you'll
ever have yeah, right, because of

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what they what they said, Okay, you'll have seven ten team divisions geographically

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you know, in geographical arrangement or
whatever, and then the group of five

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teams will make up a ten team
conference with relegation. So the best group

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of five teams will be in the
ten team conference and they'll be able to

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move up and down, you know, a year, you know, each

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year, and now you have eight
divisions or eight conferences or eight leagues or

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whatever you want to call them,
to then make up a playoffs. Yeah.

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No, it sounds like and we
kind of said it was going ahead,

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that you said before. Yeah,
well, how old are we it

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might happen? Did you say when? Or how are possible? Nothing's been

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really said. It's just right.
They just threw it out there. Yeah.

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I think they're called there's like the
CST or something they call themselves,

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but they just, you know,
they just floated it out there, and

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I think it you know again,
it's it's something that makes too much sense.

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Yeah, it is very interesting discussion, especially after they just expanded the

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playoff. Really, we'll see and
that's the thing, and a big deal

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will be do the Big ten in
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in the SEC want this? And
do Fox and ESPN want if they If

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none of those four want it,
then it will never happen. Happen you

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go ahead. If they like what
they're doing, what they're building with the

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College Football Playoff, automatic bursts,
all this kind of stuff, more money

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to the SEC and the Big ten, then they're just going to keep doing

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that and screw everybody else. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. But

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that was a very cool plan.
Yeah, I wanted to move into I

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guess news for tonight, Kishaw Johnson
will be in the dunk contest, last

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chance to see him in red and
blue, I guess you could say.

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But yeah, big, big news
for him. Obviously, he he was

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a leader of this team. And
as we talked about before, the NBA

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player, NBA player I think could
be a project. I think defensively he

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could be used. He showed that
he can shoot the three ball a little

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bit better. But as of right
now, I don't think many teams,

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which is interesting, right because he's
a longer dude. Yeah, I don't

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think he is. I don't think
he is Jay. He's not answering my

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question that I think. I think
it's offensively more right, Johnson's NBA player.

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He could be. He could be
a bench guy who can help a

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team. I think, yeah.
But he developed a bit of a shot.

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Uh is he is he? You
know? Maybe are you taking him

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or Bellas? Oh? He shot
you know ten times because physicality, aggressiveness.

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I think he's got better. He's
got he's got more range shooting wise,

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he's meaner. Yeah, his his
his his approach is more NBA like,

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way more NBA, yeah than than
than Yeah, and tubellas heck of

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a player, a lot of awards, a lot of money, a lot

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of points, right. I wanted
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the NFL network. I don't know
if you guys saw they are experiencing some

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layoffs of their time on air personalities, right, yeah, Yeah, when

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it gets to that level and you
have a lot of money, something's up.

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Yeah, because they have a lot
of money. They do have a

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lot of money, and and you
know the first thing I heard was,

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Okay, we're gonna lay these people
off, but we're going to keep paying

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uh the commissioner forty million dollars a
year. What the hell? What the

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hell is the NFL doing? Right? And how much is too much?

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Jeez? Yeah, yeah, I
saw that. Why does why does?

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Why does the NFL feel they need
to pay him forty million bucks a year?

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It doesn't make I do it for
ten? How much was Kokov getting?

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Not as not five? That not
the five that that Larry Scott was

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getting, but he was getting I'm
gonna say three, yeah, three and

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change? How that go? Not
very well? They killed the They were

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paying them a lot. You get
what you pay for. I wanted to

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touch on this because Jay was mentioning
me about your MLB pool. Well,

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this NC State fan don't say that
on the air. My wife's not listening.

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There's there's a room at my house. I'll be over if I get

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home and my stuff is out of
the front line on Tuesday one, Hey,

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thanks for coming over, staying for
a while under the bus. So

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there's actually a n C State fan
that has paid for their Final four trip

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expenses with the money that they made
from from betting on SC State Sports.

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WHOA, Well, both teams got
to the Final four. You know it

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caught me. I didn't. I
guess I knew it, but I didn't

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think about it. Two teams that
are in the Final four are in the

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Final four, both men's and women's
State. We talked about yesterday, k

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No. We knew about North Carolinas. I didn't bring. And then we

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talked about how Yukon has done a
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it together that they're both in there. See you can remember the Rubbert floor,

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you remember target surface. I don't
know if you guys saw yesterday,

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but it looks like the Baltimore Orioles
are assembling maybe one of the best minor

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league teams ever. Put up twenty
six runs yesterday. They have a very

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good system. I started following them
because my best friend is a fan now

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and I've become a little kind of
a fan. I mean, twenty six

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runs an MLB game. Yeah.
The prospects now, I think are starting

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to get called up more often as
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interesting how quickly the Orioles jump into
that playoff picture as far as well.

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They were pretty good last year and
they they fizzled out. Yeah, it's

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gonna be super interesting. Sticking with
the MLB, though, the A's landed

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on Sacramento for their home for now. Yep. Interesting. Yeah, we're

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were they playing before? They were
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they're still they're playing in Oakland and
Oakland, so what did they land They're

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going to play until the region,
so there until the stadium is built.

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And but they've got a Triple A
team there and they're going to play there

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too, so I guess they're going
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both at home at the same time. Now, you got to imagine that

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that field is going to take a
beating. But it holds fourteen thousand,

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which is more than what they're getting
at games in Oakland. Anyways, now

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they'll play some out. Yeah,
people who are interested Sacramento will go to

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the games. Yeah, because they'll
never have another major League Baseball team in

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there again. So yeah, and
here's a big league city. I mean

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they got and they got an NBA
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not a uh you know that doesn't
have a you know, major league sports.

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I wanted to talk about USC and
them getting musclem in. It's a

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very interesting hire. Obviously, what
did they hire it? Yeah, yeah,

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they hired it. Yeah. Wow. There was still a bunch of

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people were saying that wasn't gonna happen, or that it was all rumor and

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stuff. No, no, it
happened. Eric mustn't that Wow interesting?

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I was gonna see that would be
fun all the other No longer the we're

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not we're not going to see him. His name had been mentioned here when

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Tommy was do you remember that.
Yeah, very interesting for USC. They

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know he can recruit well, but
we'll see if he's another kind of uh

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maverick magabond guy. He goes all
over the place. It'll be interesting how

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long he stays there. Because he
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went to Arkansas for a short time, did really well. All over he's

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done really well. Yeah, well
nuddy, but yeah, a little crazy

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shirt off here there. Well he
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year in Vegas and he was just
nuts. It was great, it was

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funny, it was fun to watch. But yeah, interesting, Okay,

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I hadn't seen that he had actually
gotten the job. Well, good for

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USC to get a guy. Maybe
Brownie will stay. Yeah, yeah,

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I didn't even realize. I was
listening to a podcast with JJ Redick and

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Lebron and I didn't know that one
of Lebrons. I think his former high

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school coach is actually the head coach
now at do Cane. Right, there's

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a lot of a lot of buzz. Well he was retired, he just

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retired, Oh he did, but
he still might go to Decane though.

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Well, there's a lot of buzz
about it. Yeah, the median people

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that you might know, because there
was when was a twenty to one dog

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that I think it's like when he
come here, they bought the hell out

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of him here. Yeah, it
is actually right, No, he just

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went down to thirty one. I
was right. I was right in the

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middle of that sea there when you
were telling him, don't do it right,

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I tried again, what are we
doing? What are we doing?

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Oh? So, as you guys
probably saw the news about Carson Wentz as

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a former back, former Eagles quarterback, is going to be the backup in

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Kansas City. He he actually came
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the Chiefs. When when Foles was
there, he told him all the good

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things about the organization, and Wentz
decided that's where he wanted to land.

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All you have to do is look
at the rings that they wore. Yeah,

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yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, that's interesting. We didn't have

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anything about the n You don't you
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Fox has bought it. Apparently they're
going to do a better tournament or try

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to. Yes, I did see
that today. Interesting how networks move and

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buy get rid of the un the
joint basically, especially we saw with the

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college football playoff. I forget how
many years it's already extended into time,

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but I wanted to mention the I
don't know if you guys saw the news

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about the ex Cardinals VP's suing the
team and the owner was that was he

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a VP or the former coach.
He was the VP. Okay, why

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yeah, defamation basically saying that they
said some things about him. It's not

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the guy that went to Mexico.
I remember they had to fire him after

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after he did something in Mexico and
then came back. He didn't have a

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job that that was a coach.
That's why. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah that was that was a different
guy. But yeah, this is

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another situation with the Cardinals. They've
had a lot of I will talk to

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camp about it. Yeah, I
want touch of weird stuff because now and

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then you're also seeing the rumors of
them. No, I don't think anyone

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has any idea what they're doing with
the number four pick. Either they're saying

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they might trade it it, who
knows, and then a bunch of As

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far as NFL teams go, it
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always moving around, and maybe that
that's why they haven't been successful. But

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we'll see how the draft goes for
them. Well, the Bidwells haven't done

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a good job with a lot of
different levels. Yeah, yeah, I

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wanted up before we met a year. I wanted to touch on the the

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other u of a sports that are
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they got going on. So pars
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this weekend starting tomorrow. And then
softball did they win last night? They

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won? They tuesday? Or to
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They're playing better baseball, the pitching
isn't better. Softball is going to

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be at Utah this weekend, and
then uh, number nine tennis is hosting

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number twenty one a s U this
Sunday. Yeah oh okay, yeah,

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so so big time for them as
they wind the season down. But yeah,

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right now is the as you guys
mentioned, a little bit more quiet

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on campus these days because there's nothing
to talk about anymore. Yeah, that's

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what you're almost done. Yeah,
I'm gonna miss this place, not this

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place, but you okay, maybe
I missed this place. What am I

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gonna do with your You're gonna what
am I gonna do? Well? Can

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I always have you here? Yeah? You know you can come, continue

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to come working for free. That's
the problem. You can do that at

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the house back. I can pull
weak for that. What else you have?

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That's all the major news. Michael
Pennix had visited the Broncos Raiders.

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Interesting to see where he lands and
all the other Pact quarterbacks land. But

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yeah, right now midst of the
Spring Bowls, kind of taking over campus.

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Went last week for a bit just
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running back room right now stands out. They're big there. There's some big

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news in there. All the press
conferences. I'm sure you guys have been

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keeping up with that as well.
We had t Hudgson on yesterday to get

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he filled us in so info.
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fun. But yeah, right now
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Julius Randall out for the season,
the nixt Star. But yeah, I'm

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sure you guys will dive into more
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Bob Camp. Okay, let's go. We have no time here now,

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all right, man, we're gonna
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What's what's the station camp? The
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forgot, I forget what it is? Ten thirty, ten thirty, ten

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thirty In Phoenix, he has his
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be in to talk about what's going
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Hey, welcome back to Iron the
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I'm Steve. He's Jay. Now
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HEYM ten sixty in Phoenix. Bob, how are you doing great? How

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are you guys? Joy? Fine? Thank you. The first question we

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talked about this before you came on. Does anybody in the valley know the

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Final four is in the valley?
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question that people know it's here.
There's been billboards and signs around town for

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months. So yeah, people,
people are aware of this, I think.

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and there's so many things going on
there and this one's separated because a lot

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of stuff happens downtown and a lot
of happens a lot of things happening in

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Glendale. That's a good point.
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the Diamondbacks are not here this weekend. The Suns actually are here this weekend

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on Friday and Sun be so I'm
sure that I assume the NBA was smart

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enough not to schedule the Suns on
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Glendale on Saturday afternoon and night.
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you know, I mean, is
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with the final four being there's and
noticeable in terms of you know, restaurants

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filling up and stuff like that,
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it in the way? I guess
is what I'm asking. I'm not sure

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about that, to be honest,
because I don't I haven't been too many

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restaurants this week. In fact,
when I was, it was early in

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the week, so that was before
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for the Final four, and you
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the obviously that was kind of a
mess unfortunately for them, but they apparently

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arrived safely. I also assume that
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they just havev a LONGUS following,
and they've actually played in some regionals here

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in past years and if I remember
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to the Final four. One they
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I don't know if they developed more
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but they have a you know,
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no Viuve unfortunately, Uh, it's
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fans from Yukon here than any other
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point, when the super Bowl is
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it different than the Final Four in
terms of the buzz? The buzz that's

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a whole circus. That's a circus
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know if it really uh, you
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know who the teams are until you
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Bowl at least you have two weeks
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fans. It's such a corporate thing. As far as the Super bowls mourned

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obviously, you know, the Final
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yeah, much more so, you
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I think are more corporate people and
as opposed to stands, as opposed to

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will happened this weekend? Yeah,
is there? What do people what do

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people in general think about an event
like that being there? Are they proud

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of it? Do they like it? Is it a hassle? You know,

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do they like Phoenix being you know, in the in the spotlight like

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that? Or would people are say, you know, it's a pain,

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traffic's bad for traffic and all that
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And really the traffic is only bad
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tomorrow is the uh, you know, to have the open practice thing,

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which is actually usually I've actually been
to a few you know, final Wars

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and regionals obviously, and I'm sure
you guys have been to regionals too,

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I'm sure, and probably at least
a Final four or two. And the

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Friday thing with all four teams practicing
kind of depends on who the coaches.

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Was kind of my history with that. It's either really fun or just a

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complete waste of time. You're exactly
right, exactly right. It seems to

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be nothing in between. No,
you're exactly right, because you can watch

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the team's play that's for forty five
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and then and then you go to
the press conferences. I do remember that

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the last one that the Friday practices
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no, it was it was North
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Oregon, and I think with another
part when they were here the last time,

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and once again we had you know, Gonzaga, they had quite a

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following. Actually they've played a bunch
of games here over the years and they

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have a very strong following in the
valley. But you know, when you

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have teams that are from far away, the Friday thing is even more partially

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attended than the actual you know Friday, the Saturday of the games themselves.

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Yeah. Yeah, So what has
your attention on your show? Up there

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is the Cardinals, the Suns,
what is it Diamond? Well, this

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week, this week I've been tricked
definitely featuring the final four. He let's

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say, you know the one you
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by myself and then the other twos
with Kayla uh you know my boss Slice

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co host and uh, you know
the the one hour sport zone. We

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took. The first four days of
this week have been you know, centering

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on the four teams that are here
and doing updates and previews with them,

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and and guests that the guys that
cover those teams, and then tomorrow the

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Hall of Famer Mike the Course is
going to join me in nine fifteen's.

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We've kind of previewed the tournament in
summary as far as the actual day by

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day process, and you've been taking
the final four out of the equation.

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The Sun have been kind of lukewarm, just because they had said the expectations

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were so high, even though I
thought they were unjustifiably high to begin You

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see that I just think they're a
horribly constructed roster and uh, for a

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change, I might be right about
a team that is in the valley here.

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I just didn't think they were really
made for success to begin with,

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and a lot of the things that
I talked about, as far as no

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bench, lack of defense, no
point guard, those things seem to hurt

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them almost every night when they don't
win, which has unfortunately been more than

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even I thought. I thought they'd
win like fifty five games out of just

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kind of coincidence in the regular season, and none of those things I just

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mentioned would burn them until the postseason. We've seen them be burned by those

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things numerous times in the regular season. Is that you know they're they're kind

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of in the middle of the not
kind of they're in the middle of the

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pack. When when they're when when
they're in that position as supposed to being

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like, you know, a top
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the conference. As we get closer
to the playoffs, does the excitement build

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anyways or not? Or they just
gonna say, well, we'll get in

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the first round, maybe we'll win
a series. How do the fans take

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that and how much attention do they
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they get fired up until they're not
in it anymore. I'm not really sure

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how to gauge the fan on a
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that, but I really don't,
because I think it's just kind of a

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mixed reaction. Right It's been a
lot of people thought, and a lot

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of the national media thought when they
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be an automatic contending championship level team
and sell them this season that they been

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that, even when those guys the
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though I don't think Bradley Beal quite
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I think he's more of a complimentary
player than a star player. And you

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know, so I never quite bought
into the Big three thing. But you

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know, the the fact that they
really have not had too many stretches where

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they've been really consistently good all season
long, and now they're just fighting to

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stay out of the play in tournament, which you want to completely avoid at

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all. Confer you can that's just
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far as the playoff goes playoffs go. The fact they're fighting for that right

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now. You know, they've had
a couple of just look at the last

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two weeks. I mean, they've
had some really impressive victories they wanted Denver,

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and then they lose at San Antonio
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in that game, and they get
they get blown out last Friday night at

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Oklahoma City and Shag Gildess Alexander didn't
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it's a hear the shoot that's on
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weeks. It's just so such an
inconsistent consistency. You really don't know what

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you're getting from game to game.
And I got that's largely because they don't

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guard anybody, and they're really not
capable of guarding teams because they just don't

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have good defensive players. Uh,
and they don't have the point guard they

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have the they're the worst fourth quarter
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been outscored by two hundred points on
the season in the fourth quarter. And

408
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.799
that's so bad that nobody else has
been outscored more than one hundred points.

409
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.519
Well, you're staying inconsistently. Reminded
me of the basketball team I cover down

410
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.799
here. Yeah, it's just you
know, I should ask you guys about

411
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.599
that. So what's the reaction.
You know, I'm not the biggest Tommy

412
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.200
Lloyd fan. I appreciate that he
took over a mess when they finally got

413
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:44.559
Rida Miller, but I'm just they
just they don't make adjustments during it.

414
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.000
He doesn't make adjustments during games,
and I just don't know what the hell

415
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.640
they're doing a lot of games against
the better teams and some of the non

416
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:59.200
better teams that they face. That's
acurate, He's going to go next question.

417
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.680
No, you know, I think, Bob, I think that you

418
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.359
know, people think. I think
there are a lot of people who thought

419
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:08.319
they had figured out Tommy Lloyd and
what he's what he is. But you

420
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.000
know, again with this, with
this loss this year, it's kind of

421
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.759
like you're, you know, along
along the lines of what use they say,

422
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.960
well, what is he doing and
why isn't he doing it better?

423
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.200
Now? You know, some people
took it to extremes and say they need

424
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:25.480
to fire him, which is crazy
when he's won eighty eight games in three

425
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:29.039
seasons. But you know, and
I think, I think because of the

426
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.480
amount of games that he number of
games that he's won, people failed to

427
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.160
don't think too much about the fact
that he's only been a head coach three

428
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.839
years and and so there's still a
lot of a lot of things that have

429
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.079
to happen for him in his career
to you know, get to a point,

430
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.880
uh where he's you know, considered
one of the top coaches, you

431
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:48.920
know, year and a year out. I mean, he's won a bunch

432
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.119
of games. Yes, he's had
some good talent. Yes, I think

433
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.559
this was something with amount he's won
that maybe we've overestimated how good they really

434
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.599
should be at the end of the
year. Well, you mentioned the end

435
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.400
of the year. I mean the
three straight years they've played their best basketball

436
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.799
in November and December, and unfortunately
the NC Tournament is not in those two

437
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.839
muths. They've been worse at the
end of the season they were in those

438
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.480
two months. The other thing,
I'm just curious, would they would he

439
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.759
ever consider getting offense and defensive coordinator
type of thing. We've seen a lot

440
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.400
of coaches in college basketball, a
lot of staffs have that now, and

441
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:32.119
I don't know if they have that. Yeah, no, I think that

442
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:34.200
might be a good idea. I'm
not sure if that's going to be happening,

443
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.680
but that's not a bad idea.
Hey, we got a couple three

444
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.319
minutes here. We wanted to talk
to you also about the Cardinals. What

445
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.799
are they doing the Cardinals? Yeah, any ideas. Actually, they're doing

446
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:52.200
the right thing, and they've been
doing the right thing for what January of

447
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.680
twenty twenty three, as soon as
they got rid of Steve Kime finally as

448
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.519
the general manager and started o new
head coach, new general manager, new

449
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.880
everything for the most part except or
unfortunately, no, not the same and

450
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.920
they have the same owner. But
anyway, as far as the actual football

451
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.319
product, they just needed to start
over completely. Well. I should also

452
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.680
throw in that I personally don't think
that Kyler Murray is ever going to be

453
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:22.359
more than an above average quarterback.
If that I would have started over there

454
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.039
too. But they can't because they've
paid them two years ago. They've got

455
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:29.440
nobody else's got to take them at
this point because they've paid them too much.

456
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.319
But they they're doing the same thing
they did. They there's no way

457
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.720
this team was one of the worst
two or three rosters in football last year

458
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.319
and it's not going to be any
better this year because you really can't get

459
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:45.160
any top notts free agents to come
here unless you severely overpaid for them.

460
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.920
And you know, I only even
think those guys would come unless they got

461
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:53.160
really grossly overpaid. Uh, there's
no reason to think that this team is

462
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:57.920
going to be particularly good in the
next two or three years. But they're

463
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.960
just trying to accumulate as much talent
as possible. They've got a ton of

464
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:05.440
draft picks. I guess the draft
is actually starts four three weeks from today.

465
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.920
They've got double digit draft picks mad
the fourth pick. They should trade

466
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.839
the fourth pick down and get more
draft picks for this year and next year,

467
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.559
specifically hopefully next year, and they
just need players. I mean,

468
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:23.160
by the end of last year,
they only had two or three defensive players.

469
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:30.400
Specifically, they were NFL caliber starters. Buddha Baker, who actually didn't

470
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.559
have a good season last year by
his standards and still made the Pro Bowl

471
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.480
because his name is Budda Baker,
and in Jalen Thompson, the two safeties.

472
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:44.640
Those were the only two defensive players
who were really above NFL average level

473
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:49.359
of talent. They had some offensive
guys that weren't too bad, but they

474
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:53.839
just have a really bad roster,
quite frankly, and that's not the fault

475
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.720
of the current administration. That's all
Steve kim Thing who did a horrendous job,

476
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.400
especially and the end of it his
last few years he was the general

477
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:07.160
manager. Came for a suggestion.
Sure, if you were ever to get

478
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:16.440
an opinion, you might be good
at radio. Thank you, Thank you,

479
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.239
Bob. It was good to hear
from. You'll be doing well.

480
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.880
My pleasure. Thanks guys anytime.
Yes, thank you, Bob. Kim

481
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:30.320
love his opinion. Yeah. Well, you know it's funny too, because

482
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.599
we talked to Jody Hailer, Jody
things Kyler Murray's bomb. It doesn't make

483
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.480
any sense to me. That doesn't
make any sense to me either. I

484
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.079
mean that that there's two guys in
the room that believe one thing or the

485
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.760
other. And I'm on Bob Kemp's
side. You know, I don't come

486
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.920
on the dude's gonna get hurt eventually. He has a few times. Yeah,

487
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.559
every year, every year. All
right, let's take our last break.

488
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:53.400
We're gonna be back. This is
your last chance to get with us

489
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before the end of the week.
We're not going to be here tomorrow,

490
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so give us a call. Five
two zero four one six seventy four forty

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and Jagin Salves. This is I
on the bar on Fox Sports fourteenth.

535
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Hey, welcome back to the ball
here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

536
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:20.840
Steve, he's Jay. We have
fifteen minutes, so it'll be watching the

537
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phones. Phone the phone phone.
If you want to call plase do five

538
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two oho four one six seventy four
forty. We're not here tomorrow, so

539
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.760
give us a quick car Monday or
Monday. Yes, let's say kick us

540
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.719
out of Phoenix. Monday's possible.
Well, yeah, it's possible for you.

541
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.320
No, you're you and your group
are pretty crazy. I know,

542
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.400
but we work. We were What
are you doing? What are you doing

543
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.840
there? I don't know yet.
You could be pointing on no certain the

544
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.440
rute, you know what I over
there? I could be I could be

545
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.559
coming and holding the mic for you
in a press conference. That could be

546
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.559
handing you some stamp that makes the
decision. Doug Tamer, Oh, so

547
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.519
you could be doing He's told us. He's told us that we could expect

548
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.960
to do a lot of different stuff
because I don't think I don't know that

549
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:15.320
they got the number of volunteers that
they usually get. Excuse me, sure

550
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.000
the restrooms that way? Yeah,
so you know we might have to escort

551
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.920
coaches. Really funny story on that. Buddy might remember Ray Martinez so hosting

552
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:28.559
a first and second round here and
Georgetown was here Alonzo morning long ago and

553
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.920
they George John had just lost to
whoever, I don't know, and Ray

554
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:40.199
had the job of escorting Alonzo mourning
to go get a drug test and they

555
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.119
had just lost. So you can
imagine a Lonzo morning after a loss,

556
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.639
not in a very good mood.
And you know, there was a certain

557
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.960
there's a time limit, a time
you know, an NC double, a

558
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.400
mandated time limit for you to get
to your drug test. And Ray is

559
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.199
supposed to get him there, get
him there. He's just talking about he's

560
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.239
standing there trying to tell a lot
of more we gotta go, we gotta

561
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.079
go, we gotta go. And
Alonso at one point he's getting dressed right

562
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.360
and uh, and he's sitting there
and he grabbed you like he grabs out

563
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.440
one of his dress socks and he
just kind of snaps it like you know,

564
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.559
and just taking his time putting his
stuff on, just to kind of

565
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.360
be a big turn because he was
unhappy that they lost and then he had

566
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:22.719
to go do a drug test.
But that's the kind of stuff that that

567
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.239
you know that we're going over there
to do sure, you know, esport

568
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.320
escort, coaches and maybe a monitor
at a press conference. Yeah, and

569
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.079
a whole bunch of stuff like that. It's fun. It's it's a lot

570
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.559
of all the behind the scenes stuff. We'll hopefully get to see some basketball

571
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:43.440
as well. Right, I'm hoping. I'm not far away from the floor.

572
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:47.159
Yeah. You know, I think
people don't realize that, you know,

573
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:51.760
the n c DOUAA tournaments like that, they need volunteers. You know,

574
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:52.639
they don't pay a bunch of people
to come and run it. There

575
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:58.239
are some paid spots, you know, like the scorekeepers and the stat guys

576
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.000
and you know all that kind of
stuff. But the people who run around

577
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:07.679
and and kind of do all the
you know, the the well the running

578
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.559
around were handing out stats, uh
uh, you know photo marshals, photo

579
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.559
marsh all that stuff are all volunteers. And if you ever want to work

580
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:20.159
in n cua A tournament, contact
the school that is hosting this year.

581
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.440
In this it's as U. They're
they're the they're the hosts. They're the

582
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.239
ones that have to make all these
arrangements, you know, contact them.

583
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.840
You know, I know that if
you know, my daughter wasn't flying off

584
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.000
to La for the weekend. She
would probably come and work this, you

585
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.480
know, because I could have called
Doug and said you need another body and

586
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:38.639
it said yes. So if you're
interested in doing that kind of stuff,

587
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.760
now you can't get caught up and
the basketball you gotta get. You know

588
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:45.000
that you're going to be doing some
work, but you'll get to see some

589
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.880
basketball. And that's what we hope
to do this week. Sure, So

590
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.000
like Steve was gonna go sit in
a seat somewhere watch the whole games.

591
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:55.719
What's your basketball? The figure out
what I'm gonna righte, Yeah, that's

592
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.320
the you're gonna write, Steve.
I don't know. I don't even know.

593
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.519
You know, I'm gonna get there
tomorrow early and and see, I

594
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:05.599
don't know, you know what you
want to do any Arizona stories, I

595
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.800
mean a stories, not like Arizona
Connections. You don't have to see that

596
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.400
anything like that. You know.
The funny thing though, to your point

597
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.760
is is I want to kind of
bring it home here and you know how

598
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:20.039
you can kind of relate it here
because you know who really cares otherwise And

599
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.559
that's kind of hokey too, Yeah, I mean, even though it's up

600
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:23.559
the road, yeah, I don't
know. I don't know. I don't

601
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:29.280
think so. Oh you drove Throughduso
one day, right, it was a

602
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:35.599
hot day that day, back in
seventy five. There's my lead. It

603
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.079
was hot and seventy five, yeah, what darkened story? And then in

604
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:47.199
August yeah god oh well now yeah, you know, I mean, well

605
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.559
that was I mean, that was
what we always had to do. Write

606
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.880
at the papers, you know,
yeah, make localized, localized, because

607
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.880
any any slap can go write a
game story, right right, right,

608
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.440
so you have to be different.
I don't know, I might do something

609
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.760
he or or the North Carolina guy
or you know whatever, just whatever.

610
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.800
It's interesting. I haven't figured it
out. Yeah, I just got to

611
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.960
get up there because credentials and traffic
and ride you know all that long way

612
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.920
that's far, like two and a
half hours. Yeah. We got one

613
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.639
of our guys going up to he's
getting our credentials tonight, so smart like,

614
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.000
yeah, our credentials and our gear. That's what I'm looking for.

615
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.199
The gear, yeah, you know, Yeah, I don't know what I'm

616
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.599
gonna doing with all my pack gear. Now, I have a couple of

617
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:30.639
year I've worn it a couple of
times. That's vintage, vintage. That

618
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.920
was gonna college a couple of sid
It's gonna be on eBay soon. Yeah.

619
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:37.239
No, I loved Ustell. I
wouldn't get rid of it. It's

620
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:42.199
cool, all right. I have
my ninety ninety four final for you've seen

621
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.840
I worn it here, thirty four
jack final four jackets. Well, I

622
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.400
saw you. I saw you stole
your sons, uh Battling of Foothills soccer

623
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:52.280
jackets, and you're perfect. It's
be perfect. Yeah, I have.

624
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:58.639
I have my ninety the ninety seven
golf shirt that I bought there, and

625
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:00.800
there's a fit. I think it
would now. I can't wait less now

626
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:06.800
than they did then. And I
also have the ninety ninety seven pull over

627
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.599
wind breaker that I bought there with
the logo on it. I have in

628
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.480
the back of my closet more money
spent. Maybe I'll break it out here

629
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.000
one of these days. More money
spent. Then give me scrap about the

630
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.719
fact they haven't won a championship since
then. Oh that will remind me.

631
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.840
Yeah, that'll well, you don't
need reminders, but it would remind you.

632
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.360
Well, the blue Blood will have
to wait again and again. In

633
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.039
fact, in fact, Culpeper sent
me a note after the loss. You

634
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:36.719
know, we had them on and
you were saying, well, you know,

635
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.400
because I brought up to him,
he's as well, maybe win when

636
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:45.800
more, he says, Steve,
your point is made again. When you're

637
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:50.079
right this long, it just bothers
me. It'll be a while. Well,

638
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.000
you you're a Dunge fan. You
waited a hell of a long time

639
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.480
with some pretty good teams. Yes, oh that was Yeah, that's been

640
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:02.559
brutal. So those especially twenty I
think one, he's a kid, he's

641
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:08.000
a kid arranging experienced a good life
because they won one before you were twenty

642
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:14.199
three. That the worst one though, was probably twenty seventeen. Oh yeah,

643
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.320
that one. Cheating Astros, those
bastards, yes, because they were

644
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.039
loaded that one. That one hurt
and they got cheated out of it,

645
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.519
them and the Yankees. So for
Final Four this weekend, any predictions you

646
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.039
guys, do you guys think,
Yes, we have to write. I

647
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.679
guess we got to get to it. I'm gonna hate to say, I'm

648
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.360
going I'm going chock. I'm going
chock. I think I think it's I

649
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:45.480
think it's purduing Connecticut in the championship
game. You know, what I think

650
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.079
you. I think Due beats you
Khan because I think it's just too hard,

651
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.239
too hard, too hard to repeat. I think Due beats you Khan.

652
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.760
Whoa You get some good odds with
that? Yeah, decent odds with

653
00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:59.119
that. I mean, look at
that. Yeah, it's better than two

654
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.480
to one. Probably. I think, yeah, I'm gonna go with Purdue

655
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:08.159
just the not not because I think
Yukon Purdue is better or whatever. I

656
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:14.599
just think the game's gonna the game
is gonna start, and and Purdue is

657
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.159
gonna impose it as well. I
think they win it. I do.

658
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:22.599
I'm as much as if I pick
Yukon. I owed Chris twenty bucks.

659
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.679
It's hard not to pick you Coock, really hard because I had Houston,

660
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.840
and I thought Houston would be able
to pull beat them below up Alabama shoots

661
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.320
well, who knows. I don't
know. I'm just going to watch some

662
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.440
good games. I want there to
be too close. I don't want both

663
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.400
games to be just blown. I
don't and typically they're not like that.

664
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:44.239
Jay, You know that maybe because
sometimes the under games, the understudy games,

665
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:45.280
yeah, are the batter games.
Well, the best day of the

666
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.800
Final Four is the first Saturday,
is the Saturday because of the two games.

667
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.840
But I yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Purdue. Okay,

668
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.159
we have six minutes. We made
our predictions. We can kind of

669
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.199
go back to that. But I
have you're saying you con went yeah,

670
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.400
which is said, but it is
what it is. So I got to

671
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.280
know from somebody who listens to us. I won't see who it is because

672
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.719
his name is on the thing you
and I said. He says, who

673
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.519
is Bob Camp? And I said, he's a sports talk show and Phoenix

674
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.320
where you've been? He says,
you and Jay both agreed with his take

675
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:22.039
on Tommy. I was shocked Jay. I wasn't checking j but you too

676
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:28.760
about his coaching situations, but he
made sense about his game changing or non

677
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:34.280
game changing situations and and faltering late
in the game. It's interesting to hear

678
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:40.079
perspective from somebody who's not here every
day. Would you agree with I would

679
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.239
agreed as well. But you don't
really think other people have the same opinion.

680
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.960
Really, you think other people would
think, oh, Arizona, everything's

681
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.559
good, but well, we'll see, and we're fans and we wanted not

682
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.719
you, Steve, we are you
know, and we want to think that

683
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.000
think the best, and we don't
want people to We don't want to say

684
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:05.440
here and think Tommy Lloyd has uh
he's got to be better coach, and

685
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.119
that he's a really good coach.
And yeah, he'll get it. But

686
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:13.159
if you look at it, and
you look at it from the HBO present,

687
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:17.000
he's right, right. They just
never fixed anything in the second half

688
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:21.920
when they weren't shooting the ball,
they never did anything. They kept trying

689
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.800
to do the same thing and ultimately
it got him eliminated. So yeah,

690
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.039
I mean you have to you have
to agree with that. Yeah, well,

691
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.079
our boy here says I don't.
He just tends to be again up

692
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.599
to hear this, I don't agree. Yeah, yeah, you know,

693
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:38.800
but again I also I also say, though, and I said it,

694
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:45.360
you know, a little bit ago. He's three years in, three years

695
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.400
in with a lot of wins.
He's clearly gonna win a bunch of more

696
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:52.400
games. Yeah, let's take this. Hi, you're on the Aaron on

697
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.639
on the ball? Hey Jay,
this is done. How you guys doing?

698
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.280
We're good? Don? How are
you give me that optimism? Don?

699
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.960
Well, I gotta go back to
what mister Camp just said and you

700
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.119
guys agreed with him. I was
trying to say that a few weeks ago,

701
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.960
and then we had a caller that
came in after me started crumbing me

702
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:17.039
for did I go to the games? And then did I see all that

703
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:23.360
stuff? And I thought, what
mister Camp seeing from Phoenix was no adjustments.

704
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.360
But hey, that's okay. I
guess the point got made. Well,

705
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:32.000
your credibility was shaking the last two
weeks. Now your credibility is better.

706
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:38.719
So we agree with you now though, Hey you guys have a good

707
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:44.360
weekend. All right, we're gonna
try. Thank you. Yeah, I

708
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.079
remember that call. I remember he
was like poop poo in it, and

709
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.800
you know, you look back and
sit back and kind of look at it.

710
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.360
Yeah, especially in that game,
he did not make adjustments, and

711
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.320
even Thumpson had a lot to do
with it. They went to that zone

712
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.159
freaked Arizona out, which usually does
when they have own They couldn't get the

713
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.840
ball to to to bollow, not
that that would have mattered. He one

714
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.960
from seven from the freethaw line,
and they could hit shots. I mean,

715
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.400
the stars aligned and the defeat they
just did things that had to happen

716
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.079
happened. And then everything that could
go bad, right, right, And

717
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:21.400
when only one dude showed up,
Brady and then well kJ Lewis got him

718
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.599
out of a funk where he was
coming in and stealing the ball and doing

719
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:28.119
all that. Yeah, I think
the common denominate with a lot of these

720
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.719
teams is they have that a dude
that can knock down threes. Right.

721
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:37.079
We see even Yukon they have their
two guys. Alabama can get in there.

722
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:39.159
So you know, we've been waiting
on Arizona to see who will be

723
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:44.039
the next three point guy, if
there ever will be one, If there,

724
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.199
We've been talking about it for years
now. But yeah, did you

725
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:51.360
read I was before I was got
interrupted earlier? Did you read the the

726
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.320
Michigan coach the former Michigan coach Howard
John Howard. It was a great story

727
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:59.280
in the Athletic about he is the
first time he talked in two years to

728
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:01.559
reporter one one. I talked about
his situation when he went through and all

729
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:05.960
his health issues, and you know
the Caleb Love thing going there and not

730
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:09.559
getting people to get in and and
then coming here. A lot of a

731
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:15.079
lot of things were said. It's
interesting just how things kind of happened and

732
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:19.320
you know he's a Michigan guy.
They got rid of him. Just just

733
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:27.280
an interesting story. And you haven't
read molchy. I still are you driving

734
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.960
on tomorrow on your own or with
people? I'm driving with my son?

735
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.480
Okay? Is he driving? Okay, I read it. When you're not,

736
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:37.119
I'll get it read. I'll be
you know. I mean, we're

737
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.199
just going up to We're not you
know, we're just we're gonna get there

738
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:47.079
and probably get somebody eating. Women's
find afford that tomorrow should be very again,

739
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.119
really compelling games. You know,
there's some people are making an argument

740
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:58.519
that the best game of the week
is I Yeah, and there's a great

741
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:02.400
argument to be made for that.
Yeah, I'm gonna try certainly the most

742
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.079
compelling game that's first or second,
that second game, that second second.

743
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:08.239
Yeah, I'm going to give those
a good watch. I'll watch them to

744
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:14.840
Yeah. I might go to a
sports bar and watch yeah. No,

745
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.320
yeah, how can you miss it? Because you don't want a lot of

746
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:21.079
people don't know anything about the sport
and right, and we've gotta be talking

747
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.320
about it. We're gonna talk about
it. Carolina undefeated still so that story

748
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:30.119
as well. Yeah, and then
uh, Caitlin Clark's your your, your,

749
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:37.880
your superhero. They you the word
generational on her, which she is.

750
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.360
Yea. Even Kim Malkey used it, you know, mean lady that

751
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:47.519
she is. You gotta read that
story. She's got a little Jay.

752
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:53.599
I definitely will. I got to
read it just to see if if it

753
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:59.639
comes out, if it if it's
really that obvious that I that I have

754
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.079
some soh you have no questions some
of them and only the people that know

755
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.000
you, like know you. We'll
see that, okay. Because I don't

756
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:13.239
what to think Sid. I don't
either. I'm a good guy, right

757
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.440
yeah, see said knows. I
don't feel grudges against Sid. I love

758
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:23.480
Sid, I love all the interns. What Steve is thinking? O Jay

759
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:30.480
here Dunn's Hillt's grudges. All right, we're out of here. Where we're

760
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.039
back on Tuesday. Will be out
tomorrow and Monday, as Steve and I

761
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.960
will both be at the Final four, so we'll be back on Tuesday to

762
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:38.880
talk about all of it. So
be sure to come back on Tuesday.

763
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:44.639
Follow us on the podcast, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and the iHeart website.

764
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:45.880
So see you Tuesday,

