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Hey, queens, welcome to on
the lad Teach you by Josh. You

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will say listen, last but not
least, it's your favorite lead scene.

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Back up. Oh my god,
I got it of the group. You

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really are. Oh my god,
you better work. Put it in,

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put it in and put it in, and used to do white ones have

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to be LaToya and LaTavia. It's
reparations. Wait, Ben and Nigo mean

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and and oh my god, what's
his name on? I've seen him in

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person and not fucking on Twitter.
Jesus um Yeah, and Ben and Raheem

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can fight for Michelle. And I
think we all know. We all know

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who I mean. I was featured
in the TV Guide a self styled buoyance.

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So I mean, if anyone's going
to take it, oh my god,

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you stream come down with me?
Um, So how are we all?

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I mean, I'm just gonna silence. I go on. I've had

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I think that, you know,
naturally, I don't want to, you

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know, if anyone's struggling kind of
having a bad week, I don't want

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to kind of add fuel to the
flames. But god, it's been such

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a rough week for me. I
don't know why. Really, I think

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it's just because we're past that month
period. Now we don't have that end

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date that I would have loved to
have had by now, it's not really

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any clarity. There's not really a
lie at the end of the time,

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noel. Um, And it just
sort of hit me this week and I

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just sort of it's been very busy
at work as well, and I know

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I'm very lucky to have a job
at all, but it's just it's just

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been tough. I don't know why. M Yeah, it has been a

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bit tough. Um. I mean
I've had last week, I went into

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school and I'm going in again next
week. Um, so it's been a

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bit tricky. I mean I've had
some sort of routine, but I mean

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day to day, I know it's
hard for everybody and everything, so I

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mean I can't speak on other people, but yeah, it's tricky. A

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good week. Oh that's good,
go on, tell us about it.

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I just think I just used to
kind of find a routine. Now I

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was been last time we were here, we were speaking about obvious I'm starting

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the food blog, so that's kind
of I've kind of treated that as if

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it's my job, so like go
and cook. I've eaten so much food.

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They're going for a walk every morning. Obviously, the word has been

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gorgeous. So just kind of finding
that routine. I mean, didn't get

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me wrong, I'm procrastinating to hell, but yeah, the routine has has

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certainly helped my mood this week.
If nothing else, that's good. I

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definitely feel like I've had a ship
week, like like I mean, on

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one hand, I've had definitely like, oh my god, I had a

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saga earlier this week and it really
did. Actually looking it was basically the

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highlight of the week. I was
trying to because we've not got a front

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garden at all. Basically, you've
been to the Gaff, haven't I think,

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Yeah, So it's just basically just
a front yard, isn't it.

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It's just that bit of concrete outside
that's straight onto the front. So I

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was like, do you know what. We get the sun from about ten

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till half two three, so ideal
for a bit of sunbathing on that front.

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So I was like, let's have
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at some garden chairs. Obviously she's
been a thrifty queen, I said,

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linked to now and now I was
like, what the fuck's this for?

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Our doll's house. I had tried
to purse ches a gardens. I can't

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even say it. I tried to
purchase a garden center. There was eight

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centimes. It was a CENTI me
is and I actually could not get over

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it. I could crying. I
was literally But the funny thing is I

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was just laughing at myself. Why
the fuck did I think a bench,

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oldnch, two chairs and a table
would be sixteen pound fifty? Like on

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what planet? I mean to say
that you could go to Aldie and get

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that, probably only on a Tuesday
for half an hour. But yeah,

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but like I mean, joe An, there's the one in the reviews who's

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just one star bought wrong things,
So clearly I'm not the only one.

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So that was definitely the highlight of
woe week because I just I said the

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whole day laughing about it. So
that really cheered me up up. Oh

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my god, I'm so good.
Well, I went on to actually buy

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it just as a Keith sake,
but I last I know, it sold

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out and I'm literally like, surely
somebody after I posted it on the story

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went and bought it, Like why
would anyone buy that? So yeah,

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that cheered me up. But apart
from that, it's just been really anxious.

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I don't know why I'm laughing.
It's just like about like job really,

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like you know, I know,
I'm quite a chaostic. I've got

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a big chaotic energy and I am
very chaotic, but underneath that, I

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am kind of like I'm in control
of my life, my job, like

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what like I mean relate like like
I mean to relate, Like there's lots

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of things where I'm like, I
mean the place where I'm in control,

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probably more so than ever before.
Yeah, and now that's like without realize

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like sometimes you think, oh,
actually my lafe is a good place.

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You don't spend too much time thinking
about it, because if you do that,

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then you'll start freaking out, like
sometimes going to go wrong. So

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you're naturally a warrior anyway, and
you overthink. It's like your natural default

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setting. That's today. Now you're
right, you are all right? Well,

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John, I mean not everyone might
know that, but those close to

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me probably get the brunt of it
because they see how I actually ridiculous it,

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like I kind of yeah. Well
and yeah, also obviously editing the

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podcast as well, take that out
and I'm like it's fine, I know.

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But yeah, so like I think
just with the job and just like

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you know, just the global economy
on the blink and being part of something

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that's kind of a service learning and
development, it's just it's just kind of

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free. Give me out a little
bit. Um. Oh yeah, I

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think I'm truly fucked at this point, to be honest. There's just you

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know, the chances of like the
cubs and restaurants reopening this side of Christmas,

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it's just a slimmer and slimmer.
And you know, it's even if

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you do reopen, they're going to
put in social distancing measures, which means

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we'll be able to have Yeah.
Yeah, it's this, it's this,

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This is not realistic. Um.
So yeah, I'm just I'm trying to

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just be like it is where it
is, and we'll cross that bridge when

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we come to it, and just
to try and not spend money in the

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meantime so that you know, if
I have to leave or whatever, I'm

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not in a terrible situation. But
you know, it's not like I can

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go I can go to the pub. You know, It's I don't know,

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it's just it's a tricky one,
isn't it, like because John has

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apposed like you're a bit like meetings, almost like you've done something for a

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good while, Like that's kind of
like what you're like, you love doing

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it. It's something that's your question, that's your career, and like that's

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just not a career at present,
and that's how I'm going your mind's going

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a bit like I really like that's
like the one thing I know I'm actually

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good at. And I just like
I'm looking at like, you know,

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if bigs go tis off, I
have to do all the things. I'm

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just thinking, Oh my god.
So I'm like, what would I do

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it? In the basic what is
it? I'm like, I just don't

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know. Me. I'm just gonna
procrastinate. I'm going to sit and make

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a pretty food blog. And it
is a completely legitimate thing to do.

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Yeah, and actually, like honey, as I've been saying, you need

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to set up a food Patreon as
well, like just like it's just like

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recipe, recipe, whole pick,
recipe, recipe, whole pick. Oh

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my god, yeah true as well, I mean why not? Why not?

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Um? So I thought we could
just do as a little cute thing

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a you know how everyone's been doing
zoom quizzes. Can I just have a

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check in? Are we exhausted of
zoom quizzies or are we still enjoying?

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I don't mind every Friday, and
I've got one today as well. Oh

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my god. People are like like, literally I'm quizzed. Um like I

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do, Like I've got two plunders
a weekend and I'm doing a zoom an

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absolutely fabulous party. My cousin's zoo
absolutely fabulous party. Like she sent up

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bits of scripts. We're getting wigs, she's got she's making like sheet the

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ingredients for two cocktails. One's called
the Sweetie and one's called the Darling.

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And it's like it's gonna be on
point and I'm really looking forward to that.

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But like so like there's so many
quizzes, it's like that britty I

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just can't. I can't deal with
the chaos of them. I hate being

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interrupted at the best of times.
Like it's one of my biggest bug bears.

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So just trying to like have a
conversation or talk to somebody, everyone's

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just screaming at once. It just
it makes me great to be honest,

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you should do what I do.
I'm just kind of an arshole obviously I

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sent an email in advance, and
I'm like, these are the rules,

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this is how it's going to work. Remain on mute. There is no

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reason for anyone but me to be
heard about it yourself? John, how

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can you say your most annoying thing
is fucking me and interrupted? Have you

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listened to this podcast? I know, I know, I finish every episode.

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I'm seeding for a lay down the
dark room. Oh my gosh,

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worked that word root? Those were
the days when were allowed out? Oh

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my god. Well, I wanted
to actually just briefly, I suppose we

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should we talk about something slightly Thurstay. Yes, saw a pole. I

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mean, obviously it's not an official
pole. But Greg Grego ended it on

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his Twitter and he basically asked,
I'm interested to know how people have embraced

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les acted on the don't hook up
message? Answer? Honestly, the answers

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are anonymous. So do you want
to hear how what? How many people

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do you think said that they are
completely not hooking up? Out of one

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hundred percent? Can I get some
guesses? I would say five, John,

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I was going to say the majority, like, yeah, probably seventy

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something. I'll go eighty. Actually, oh, got a bit higher from

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the thing is these things, you
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be something like eighty five percent.
I also don't believe people even though it's

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anonymous. Yeah we'll see there we
are a guy. I don't know if

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you saw the poll, but it
is eighty five Um. But yeah,

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well so there's a breakdown this four
options. Three percent said still hooking up,

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five percent put hooking up with fewer
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option. Seven percent said not hopped
up wood. Yeah, I'm a slag,

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but I had had the chance,
which I just So seven hundred and

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eighty eight people voted um, which
quite a lot, I think quite seven

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hundred and eighty eight. Okay,
so yeah, it's relatively be exumperized,

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like I think it's like, it's
definitely an interesting one. This I'm not

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gonna I'm not hurt to be judgment
or for me, it's just like all

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right, I think for a lot
of people, it'll be if you're a

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gay man living on your own and
you go to another game antist who's living

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on their own, then they're thinking
that like that's that's safe, like in

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quotes kind of things exactly whereas you
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co habitat, like so many people
could be putting people race, So like,

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I mean, I think it's encouraging
that eighty five percent. I still

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said not hooking up. But you
think it's probably, you think it's actually

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probably what would you actually get?
Yeah, I just And the thing is,

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again, as you say, Josh, I don't want to judge anyone,

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and I get it, like loneliness
is a real thing, and people

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have mental health problems and you know, it's stressful and scary and if I

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don't know, I just I just
don't think it's very easy to sort of

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look at the grand scheme of things
sometimes. I think sometimes you look at

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the people sitting in the park and
they think, well, I haven't got

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a garden, and oh, it's
just us in the park. So it's

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fine, and it's like, yes, but if everyone does that, we're

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fucked. So yeah, the people
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and it's the three percent, I
completely understand it. It's a stressful time,

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but if everyone did that again,
we'd be fucked exactly. Yeah.

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I mean I was gonna say I've
been really tempted, like I've had like

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three messages asking me to come over
and yeah, from different people. Yeah,

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no, from three different people.
I mean that's the only time they

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remember me when there's nothing to do, so getting that quarantine cocky. No,

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but I've literally had to say,
like literally no, like it could

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be that one time. I always
think about this, like it could be

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the one time that you do something
that you know that could be it.

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I always think like that, and
I know it's kind of not something to

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think about. They always say,
oh you have I mean, just do

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something once, you know, you
have only one life and everything like that.

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But exactly so, I don't want
to wander at getting dicked down,

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and I mean I would, but
you know I can't. I shouldn't really.

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Oh my god, that sounds like
you were literally wavered as you said

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it. I can't. I shouldn't
really. Yeah, bye, have a

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nice time. Um No, I
just thought that was quite interested. But

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I digress. So I wanted to
do because we there've been so many zoom

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quizzes, I thought I would just
do a cute little mini on the lat

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quiz for you queens here. Um, So, audience members, I'm not

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sure if you'll be able to know
what there's only five questions. I don't

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know if you can try and play
along before you can fast forward for five

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minutes just skipping about the podcast.
Okay, question number one, hope you

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have you penned? Ready? Um
um? Okay. So we'll obviously like

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the quiz, We'll do the five
questions and then I'll do five hunters.

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So a friend of the pod,
Olie Alexander, came on our show and

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spoke about going to the clinic for
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when he was waiting? Oh I
remember that's question one? Okay, question

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number two, it's the Numbers Round. What number episode are we recording today?

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Oh my god? Okay, number
three? Number three? What was

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the name of the bar where we
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Which time? Wait? Which time? Time? When Ben basically did a

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fucking muss audition the first time,
the very first time. All yeah,

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question for what is what you waiting
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four is one of David's biggest turn
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five out of five. Okay,
this is a bit of a curveball.

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The Music Round season one we recorded
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But can anyone remember the R and
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studio? Oh? What really?
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like that. We did it,
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remember, like I've seen loads of
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because I remember the carpet and the
background. Yeah, obviously, and the

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engineer. Yeah, we wanted to
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honestly that sound engine name Bone Apple
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was his name. And didn't wasn't
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sort of stetiue, um okay.
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question one, friend of the pod
or the Alexander came on the show and

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season one spoke about going for a
sexual test. But what happened when he

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was waiting? Then, lads one, if his songs came on in the

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background? What he was? Yes, knew it. Bonus question does anyone

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know the song it was? King? Yeah? Yeah, thank okay.

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Question number two? What number episode
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five? We recorded episodes it's actually
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Congratulations, I know over eighty four
years. Okay. Questions what's the name

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of the bar where we all met
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was SUCA, and then some of
us went to or did we not go

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to thinking that night? Went to
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to j Y after. Okay,
why and I hate you? Why?

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Oh? Same? Okay? What
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Fraud? Fraud? Correct? Oh
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Season one we recorded at Studio Westbourne
Park. Can anyone remember the R

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and B hit Into? It was
Into India. I'll play I'll try and

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play it through my microphone a little
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to play. Che Ben would never
allow this copy right, yeah? No,

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no, no, no, no
no no into either the White chomped

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out. I can listen to Aber
and Fleetwood Mac you know, oh the

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call Cassity never so well, thank
you for doing that quiz you I had,

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I had, I had a few
minutes. Thank you for reminding me

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that I hate fraud. Yeah,
so yeah, thanks, I'm glad.

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I'm glad we did that. It's
so funny. I thought it was this

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gonna be work at all, and
actually it did. Um. So it's

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so funny when I was looking back
at all the episodes that we've recorded,

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it's actually wild how many we've actually, if someone wanted to start the podcast

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now, like, that's like,
that's fifty fucking hours. That's that's a

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good that's a good isolation hobby.
Actually should that? Yeah, recommend to

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a friend. Yeah, yeah,
body out content in there. Yeah,

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just started off. We started off
really strong. We understand it shit these

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days, but honestly, I think
we've actually had like peaks and drops,

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and I don't think it's got progressively
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season's been really strong. I think. I think I think that considering the

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nature of the time, the fact
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down and discuss stuff and you know, make notes and stuff, which we

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would normally do in person. Like
of course, it's a little bit more

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ratic than usual, but like so
is the world. So it makes sense.

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Yeah, true. Actually, maybe
I should start listening to on the

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Latch at some point. Oh my
god, you should start from the beginning.

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There's live tweets that people would fully
know you're having a breakdown yet do

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you know how you know that someone
has like been kidnapped if they start tweeting

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something completely out of character? If
I start listening to on the latch and

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live tweeting it, you know about
ain't me? Yeah, we're going to

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be like, hold up a copy
of this week's Grapsio. I'm my quarantine

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hobby. I think cooking is actually
going to be To watch all the Marvel

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movies from the beginnings, I've never
really watched. I was thinking about doing

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exactly the same. We should do
it together because I've not watched no one.

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I've not watched one apart from Black
Panther for the culture is good.

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Do it in the timeline order?
Yeah? Actually I got sense. I

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got sense the order basically, what
is it like you chronological or do you

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do story order that is chronological story
order? No release order? No?

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Actually, yeah, but actually no
chronological meaning like when it happened on the

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timeline? Oh god, Okay,
it doesn't really matter. Where all intelligent

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people and if you watch your film
set in the forties after a film that

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set in the nineties, your brain, your brain will arrange it. We're

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not stupid. It's absolutely fine and
if you want, if you want some

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help, I did write a very
good piece in The Guardian about Hit in

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twenty eighteen. You can just Google
to find my name. You know.

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It's quite good. It's quite useful. Okay, what about Marvel? Yeah

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it was. It was a complete
guide to every Marvel film and in what

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order to watch them. Really,
yeah, that sounds like something that like

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you are kidnapped. I would not. I know shit, I need not,

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I know why did you do that? Kind of shit? I know

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everything? Wow, you know how
to cheer up this week? Sorry?

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Um so? Can I just really
greatly because it just reminded me it's in

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the same ballpark for me as Marvel. Nile's got a switch or a switch

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nano or whatever you call like a
little switch. Is that like a flashlight?

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Yeah? Switch is where you switch
your tho. So one for me,

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one being with chuckle brothern oh my
god blooded? Why not for the

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for the ships and gigs? No, So he's got so he's got a

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Nintendo switch, a Nintendo switch and
he's playing on it more than ever before.

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Well, it's new, but I
just wanted to know, like any

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of you guys gamers and has anyone
dealt with boyfriend who's now got a new

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toy? Then basically no, I've
been playing Mario Kart quite a lot,

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but that's it because that's that's the
extent of my gaming. I used to

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crash Bandicoot, but I think I
love Yeah, but you've got you could

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play as his sister and you could
ride the tiger along the Great Wall of

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China. Oh, I love that. I think it's like one of those

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things. Do you want me say
that? All? You know, you

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know that someone's gay if they if
they play as Princess Princess Peach or or

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I love techn going as Anna.
You are you? Yeah, honey,

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you know you knew, you knew? Oh yeah, absolutely. I've been

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playing on fee for a lot of
my PlayStation and God of War and stuff

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like that, so adventure games get
me involved. I'm all about that.

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They're quite expensive, aren't they.
That's the thing online. They are expensive,

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but gosh, that's where we need
to see X shop open, but

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obviously it's not now. I would
say that it's an essential and essential shock

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and I've started playing Animal Crossing um
and like wild. It kind of gives

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me Tamagotchi energy. It's like,
am I supposed to just collect these fucking

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apples? Like, what the hell
you're supposed to do? What is it?

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What does it mean? What do
you do? I really just do

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little tasks to like do up your
house. Basically. I still try to

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work it out like the Sims,
not even like I think, because as

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soon as you get more ship to
do your house the thing, um,

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I've got really no idea. So
yeah, so okay, So that's all.

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We are now retiring as a as
a as an LGBT podcast. We're

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now a game of podcast officially really
shit game of podcast only video game,

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but I can talk about with any
Oh go on, sorry, no,

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it's fine. Lesbians can wait.
Go on, No, I think that

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we can. I think we could
edit this slice out and you can start.

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No, no, please, I
was going to say, is what

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you got to say? All I
was getting to say was that the only

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the only video game that I can
any authority is well not even really a

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video game. But remember when like
the noughties, when you everyone had dance

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mats, Oh babes. Now we're
talking my god, and you could dance

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to Jamelia Superstar until like four in
the morning, until you got it right,

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Gloria Gaina. I remember they had
glory again that I will survive.

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Video killed the video killed the radio, that one I'm that triggered me.

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When we're allowed out, Let's buy
it on. Let's buy a video a

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dance matter on eBay. We'll have
an on the latch dance party. Um.

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Okay, Well, speaking of iconic
things danced, um, well,

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not things people. Um. It
is Lesbian Week of Visibility, um,

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which I think important. Can we
just say that was fucking lackluster? I

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have to say though, that's that's
segue. That segue was impressive. Speaking

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on of iconic things, Oh my
god, yeah, yes, first a

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great way to kind of dehumanize lesbian
iconic things. I'm doing well, canceled

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the game and love trotting on.
Oh my god. Uh, but could

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never truly master it's uh. But
honestly, I've got to say I think

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Lesbian Week of Visibility is super important
because I think that within the community,

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like I think that lesbians and they're
like cultural impact on both like where we

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are as a movement and just actually
how they've brought us forward is like kind

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of a raised by noisy men.
Yeah, oh, I mean there should

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be a lesbian on the latch.
There probably is. It's on the latch.

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We've been living with each other.
We met two weeks ago. That's

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a lazy stereotype. And continuing,
I'd in with Nile after a month.

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I was about to ask how long
have you been in? Um? But

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yeah, I've got to say that
realistically, like, just speaking from my

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own personal experience, I really do
think that the lesbians that I've met,

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like have really just kind of transformed
like my own perception of how I see

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myself within the community, and just
yeah, like I really am super like

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when you think of people like my
friend Sarah Moore who I'm at Stonewall and

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Lady Phil like um, like my
friend Zoe who does them fote which is

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a clothing brand to check them out. Just some really iconic, amazing people

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cap from stone Wall hours in.
Sorry to shout out all my favoral lesbians,

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just a few names. It's like
that that Witney Listen you know name.

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Do you know what I'm super excited
for? Go on, if you've

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seen the trainer for that Hidden Love
on Netflix about I am so ready.

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It's about this lesbian circus of books. No, no, no, that's

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another one. Another one. It's
documentary. It's a documentary about this lesbian

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couple who basically hids the fact there
were a couple for sixty five years.

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Um and then this is like their
journey to living together. Is that next

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week? That looks so sweet?
I think I'm going to sob it's oc

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Yeah. Oh, I'm super excited
for that. I don't think I'm really

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watching anything that's making me sob at
the moment. I'm just watching like rescuers

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don't under just to make me.
Yeah that is that is that at least

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lesbian reference. No, not at
all. I just I'm just not I'm

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not watching I'm not watching sad documentaries. I'm watching Smiley Like actually know what,

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I'm exactly the same. I've been
watching Vicara Didley like the most hor

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love of that stuff because I laugh. Yeah, because I'm on edge.

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I do not need any trauma whatsoever. Um. So I completely get you

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guys, and I think that's good. But yeah, so just shout out

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to um to just the the amazing
lesbians out there, really and also just

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like thank folk for lesbians. At
the start of the movement with like you

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know, when we're thinking about um, you know, Sylvia Vera, you

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know, like some really iconic people, and also support trans lesbians as well.

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Right, Yeah, And I guess
there is a tendency, you know,

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I know when you when you started
talking about lesbians, I just started

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talking about dance mats. So I
can't really speak, but the there is

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a tendency in the gay community to
sort of, you know, we all

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say that we're all together in the
kind of lg BTQ kind of um umbrella,

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and then when we actually are brought
together or when we are asked to

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kind of unite for various reasons,
where just sort of like, oh no,

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we're fine with the gays, we're
fine with the boys. All good

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ham And I do think a lot
of there is a lot to be done

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in just sort of acknowledging the support
that we have given other aspects of it

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umbrella and vice versa. Yeah,
I think it's just like we spoke we

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spoke about this last year when that
when that there's been a couple got beaten

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up on the bus, and I
think that's kind of we spoke about in

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quite a lot of detail about how
we as gay men often we'll talk about

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like our homophobic experiences and won't we
listen to anybody else's. So yeah,

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I'm not sure I was going with
that. I mean no, I mean

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I don't think I think that didn't
have to go anywhere. I think that's

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completely true. And also, like
when you think about the intersectionality of like

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as as gay men, there's still
a privilege being a man in society,

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So actually on top of being a
lesbian, like, of course, I

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felt still facing misogyny and a lot
of that comes from from gay men as

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well. Yeah, yeah, but
I mean, like, do you do

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you think it hasn't changed your perception
on lesbian visibility having because your mum's a

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lesbian at all? Guy or not? Really? No, not really,

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I mean I it was because I
grew up in such a small town.

405
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.800
I think the fact that she was
when she came out when I was a

406
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.679
teenager, what it did kind of
prove to me is something that I was

407
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.639
pretty much aware of already, which
was that I had to leave the like,

408
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.800
leave that town. It's a very
backward, very very kind of unpleasant

409
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.920
place to be in as a gay
person. When when my mother came out,

410
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:54.840
it was not very nice for her, awful us um and so for

411
00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:01.960
me whatever. But lesbian visibility was
zero in that in the area, and

412
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.400
so it just sort of proved to
me that there was no visibility and if

413
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:13.400
anything, having one lesbian. I
know there were more lesbians, of course

414
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.719
they were, but for me,
seeing one lesbian is almost more alienating than

415
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:23.159
seeing zero because it draws attention to
the fact that there are so few.

416
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:28.559
So it's, yeah, it's a
bit weird. You know, I have

417
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.559
complete respect from my mother. It
was a very brave thing to sort of

418
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:36.119
kind of come out with that,
especially at that time, and when you

419
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.800
have four children, it's it's an
incredible incredible thing to kind of come out

420
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:45.599
and say. But yeah, it's
I didn't really kind of think about it

421
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.039
at the time in terms of what
it meant for her. I do a

422
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.119
lot now I look back on it
a lot and I think, Gosh,

423
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.800
how brave, Gosh, how difficult, blah blah blah. But at the

424
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.840
time I was like, well,
this is annoying, isn't it, because

425
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:04.559
now you know now I you know, now my brother is playing app or

426
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.639
my sisters being a twat because our
father has gone and blah blah blah,

427
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.719
you know all that shit. You'll
have to read the book when I write

428
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:15.039
a book. Yeah, I'm desperate, But I do think that you're right,

429
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:20.039
like as a child, like as
you're so centered in your own universe

430
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.519
at the time, and I think
that's with your parents, Like it's not

431
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.599
until you get older and you're like, oh my god, they were like

432
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:29.519
they were just like in their thirties
trying to work it the fuck out.

433
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.400
Like that's made Like as you get
close to that age, you're like,

434
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:40.159
what on earth. So we've actually
got two cheeky little questions. One more

435
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.920
of an anecdote, which I think
is really cute and it's a bit of

436
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.559
an essay but I like, I
think it's cute, and one is just

437
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.000
a question. So I'll start with
the anecdote and then end on the question.

438
00:37:52.320 --> 00:38:00.559
Um on, So first verse,
like the first is written in,

439
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.920
is called Nile, not my Nile, I hasten to add, and it

440
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.639
does involve a bath, so like
straight away right up my back alley.

441
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.599
Okay, So to start things off
earlier this week, but the luck of

442
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.719
being able to go on grinding meats
it was getting to me. So I

443
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.119
pulled out my box of good ease
and decided to have some fun. I've

444
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:23.199
got my own bathroom on the top
floor of the house, so it can

445
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.400
take my time as no one else
use it, and I decided to have

446
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.760
a bath, have a drink,
get the music going, and make an

447
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.159
evening in the evening of it.
So, after bathing, play and send

448
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.079
him picked the usual, I decided
to clean up. So as I get

449
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:37.960
out the bath, I immediately did
my teeth and shave my face while washing

450
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.199
the sinks down and filling boiling water
and putting my toys into soap to kill

451
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:46.719
off anything. I don't know what
the people's routine spray antibacterial and this is.

452
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:52.599
It's really the detail. I don't
know if I'm doing too much or

453
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.400
enough cleaning. I mean, I
didn't take all the precaution Tony, there's

454
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:01.159
a pandemic on protect your whole anyway, I usually set them on a towel

455
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.599
to edge right and given an hour
before I go back and spray and wipe

456
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.719
down and package them up in plastic
zip lock bags and back in my box

457
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:15.239
again. So I leave and locked
the bathroom from the outside and head to

458
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.480
my room and I'm just chilling out
music on and a doze off. Wake

459
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.440
up for a half one, go
for a week and see the toys and

460
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.440
side to leave until morning. Wash
my hands and let the water go on

461
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.400
top of the water I've forgotten to
let down the drain earlier. I don't

462
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.320
know why I've forgotten to pull the
plug, and in my day's stay,

463
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.760
it just didn't cross my mind.
Head back to bed and couldn't shoot it

464
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.199
as it walked a bit, so
I just let pulled it to and headed

465
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:45.039
to bed. Wake up at six
o'clock play PlayStation killed time to the rest

466
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.000
of the house is open for me
to move around. Then all of a

467
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:50.920
sudden, I hear a rush of
footsteps up stairs. So I grabbed the

468
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.719
blanket and hold it around my waist
and pop through my bedroom to see what

469
00:39:53.440 --> 00:40:00.320
my mom is. To see my
mom in the bathroom and in on and

470
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.880
she pulls the plug on my sink
that has been overflowing when I washed my

471
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.400
hands in the night. I mustn't
turned the top off all the way um

472
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:15.800
um, and it was dripping through
the spotlight in my mom's room. So

473
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.320
as she's explaining what's going on in
a day's stay. I moved further into

474
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.360
the room to try and block the
view of all my toys and that I

475
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.840
get um and I decided to throw
the plastic bag that I carry them together

476
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:35.320
together into the bathroom, then sneakily
carry them over together in the bathroom sneakily

477
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:37.559
behind my back. But my mum
has been looking at the mainly of the

478
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:43.000
sink area whilst explaining, looks around
and sees it in like and says,

479
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:49.360
oh, you can leave them out. I was pissing myself laughing. Usually

480
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.719
a lock at the door, but
as it was, as it was only

481
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:58.280
circumstance last night, left it till
morning. Um. Luckily, my mom

482
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.039
and I are very close and she
already knows I have them. That's cute,

483
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.800
I honestly, but honestly, they
couldn't stop laughing about it, and

484
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.519
I do find it really embarrassing.
Definitely, this lapstone has made me more

485
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:17.760
luck in being careful in only twelve
hours fifty five. And I just thought

486
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.079
that was, like, do you
think that like? Has anyone had an

487
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.519
experience like that before? Anyone's I've
probably asked this before, has anyone been

488
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:32.760
caught having a Jimmy Tonker. Oh
my god, I would literally die on

489
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:42.119
the spot. And have I not
told this story before? I am m

490
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:47.440
hmm. I came in from out
once like really drunk. Um. I

491
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.880
think I just moved back in home, like temporarily, and before I moved

492
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:57.320
to Canterbury, and I was shit
faced. I didn't have my laptop.

493
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.639
I used my mum's laptop and fell
asleep like with poor one on the computer

494
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:08.880
midwhank and I woke up in the
morning as she had taken the laptop in

495
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:19.400
the morning, she was like,
can you not do that again? Raw?

496
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.519
Do you know what I heard of
a story? I can't remember who

497
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.920
it was, I think on it
he was saying that he was like he

498
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.280
was having a whank and like basically
he like, uh, he was like

499
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:40.360
closing his eyes really into it.
And then when he opened his eyes and

500
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.840
his woman had been in with a
cup of tea while he was having a

501
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:52.039
wank. Put it down. This
is leave it, this isn't this isn't

502
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:53.159
a wank story. But I do
love this story. This is a better

503
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.840
friend of mine who was in America
on business and stayed in a hotel,

504
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.880
got really really drunk, went out, came back in and the middle of

505
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:06.519
the night, took a ship,
couldn't find any toilet paper, ripped down

506
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.679
the shower curtain, used the shower
curtain, tried to flush it, went

507
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:21.199
to bed, woke up. The
entire hotel had been flooded. But he

508
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.400
waded two inches of water because there
was a knock. They were knocking on

509
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.920
the door trying to find the source
of the leak. Asked them to give

510
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:30.960
him a minute while he put his
dressing gone on. In that minute,

511
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.320
he whipped out the shower curtain,
hid it in a carrier bag, and

512
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.639
as they were upgrading him to a
sweet upstairs away from the flooding, he

513
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:45.840
just slid it into the laundry.
Shoote oh my god, oh my god.

514
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:52.719
The real hustle. That is absolutely
it's the idea, it's a plan.

515
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.800
Um so, But he said,
but I love you guys. I

516
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.039
love the show, and glad it's
back with you guys doing it remotely.

517
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:06.199
Hopefully it'll be back regularly. You've
definitely helped me a lot in my life,

518
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.039
and my life has changed dramatically in
the last year and a half listening

519
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:14.679
to you guys. Can't thank you
or not. Whether you guys be talking

520
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.480
about going to the clinic and normalizing
that for me when I was incredibly nervous

521
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:23.280
to go or Clay and had been
tested before with home kitch detally and whether

522
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:28.119
it was you guys talking about different
social groups has helped me to make friends

523
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.639
in big cities and staff after years
being back in Manchester since finching UNI,

524
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.199
I didn't have any friends from UNI
to go on nights out with and never

525
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:39.960
been to the village before. Being
so far from Manchester, it is scary

526
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:45.360
and exposed to do a night out
alone start making friends to begin with.

527
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.400
So I took your advice joined a
social group to make friends and then things

528
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:54.719
have gone from there. It's awesome. Sorry it's long winded again. This

529
00:44:54.800 --> 00:45:00.000
is Kevin nineteen and having just having
people being bored a dragging out store.

530
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.639
At least I'll give you something to
read for a few hours. Anyway,

531
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.679
I love you guys on the show, and let me know if you want

532
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:14.119
another novella about my life. I
was really touched by that, Like when

533
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.440
I read it, I was obviously
full of emotion. It brought it to

534
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:23.000
my eye. Um okay um,
So obviously that needed no advice other than

535
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:30.239
maybe you know, get the toys
in the back lot. A lock the

536
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:37.559
back of your doors people, key
major key, um. Okay. Next

537
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:43.119
one. I think my boyfriend is
cheating on me via text. I don't

538
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.559
know if I come on, I
don't know if I'm paranoid, but he

539
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:52.800
always seems to be messaging someone and
it's getting irritable if I inquire. Who

540
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:58.199
don't know if this is just me
being quarantine paranoid and not really sure what

541
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:06.039
to do, so want to we
reckon? I think you, David,

542
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:13.039
Yeah, you're not joking. You're
not joking. This is the thing right

543
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:17.199
that I really as a rule,
don't go for you like you might.

544
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:21.960
Even if he's not cheating. All
it will take is for you to reathe

545
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.559
like. This is how I feel. I know that people must bitch about

546
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.280
me because I'm annoying, but I
don't want to hear it because the meaning

547
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.719
I hear what you said, I'm
going to be irrationally angry. But like

548
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:36.119
you know, everyone chat shit like, I'm not going to hold that against

549
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.039
people, but it's like I don't
want to see it. Well if it's

550
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:45.159
a like, so don't. But
also, once you check someone's phone,

551
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:52.599
it basically is like and like you, if you've got no trust and you

552
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.639
don't trust what they're saying, then
you've got to think about that, just

553
00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:02.119
without kind of invading anyone's privacy.
What I would do, like, I

554
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.440
job, no, I agree,
you should never look through the phone,

555
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:12.039
because when you've like that's the first
that's the end of your relationship, Like,

556
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.840
you may as well just end it
now because you don't trust him.

557
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:22.440
What I would do as a loophole
to that the phone because then if he

558
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.559
gets sorry, I would hide the
phone. I would put it somewhere,

559
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:36.119
but like just like six hours,
because then if he is actively like,

560
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:37.800
oh my god, where's my phone? Where's my phone, you can say,

561
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:39.840
oh, it's I don't know where
it is, but I'm sure it'll

562
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:44.760
show up blah blah blah like a
thing, all right, blah blah blah.

563
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.039
And then if he gets like increasingly
aggressive and upset about it, then

564
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.639
it means that he's like he's he
cares, he's really caring. That's not

565
00:47:52.760 --> 00:48:05.039
true. If I couldn't find absolutely
exactly sorry, I mean that's six hours

566
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:10.639
in the house, I try any
minutes what you need it for, I'd

567
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.360
be like, should like not talk
to you. I'm joking. The only

568
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:22.679
contact with the outside world. Yeah, phone. I would also say,

569
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.840
is what you could do is obviously
don't read the phone, but like,

570
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.320
you know, like is he being
like, could you glance at the phone?

571
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.960
Is there a note? Is there
a message notification? Like I don't

572
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.719
know, Like that's not I think
that's a lakehole really, Like I don't

573
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.400
think if you can't say, oh, don't look at the phone, but

574
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.559
you can glance at the phone.
Well, you're not unlocking the phone reading

575
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.119
the messages, but if you like
seeing like an app like big Hole ninety

576
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:57.440
six, then you can do the
maths. Like, I don't know,

577
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.199
that's just my that's my thoughts.
I think maybe if I was just asking

578
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:06.239
you straight up, are you fucking
other bitches? Yes? Are you are?

579
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:12.000
If I think, I think if
I was like a mature person,

580
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.159
um, which I'm not, but
if I was, I think what I

581
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.679
would say is, look, I
you know, I've asked you about this

582
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:25.280
before and like it hasn't gone particularly
well, um, and I trust you

583
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.079
with whatever, but for whatever reason, like seeing you sort of kind of

584
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.880
privately, kind of tucked away with
your phone does make me feel kind of

585
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.519
insecure and uncomfortable. So if you
if we can just kind of be more

586
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.400
open about you know, I can
say who's that and you can say your

587
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:45.199
mum. Like I'm not being nosy, I'm being I'm being conversational. So

588
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.320
like, if we can just be
more relaxed and casual and conversational about about

589
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.960
your relationship with your phone, then
I can be secure and you won't get

590
00:49:53.039 --> 00:50:00.119
upset. Yeah I'm also conversation.
Sorry, yeah, just have a on

591
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.639
this conversation about it, because obviously
it's making him feel a kind of way.

592
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.119
Yeah, and I mean, you
know what, especially in this time,

593
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:12.000
you don't want to feel that way, like the whole three weeks.

594
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:16.039
So we've got left in quotes not
to gaslight as well. But like he

595
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.800
might not be texting any more than
normal, Like it's just because he's in

596
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.320
the house all the time, or
like because you're just spending lots of time

597
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.599
around each other. He might just
be using it as a way to just

598
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.320
like talk to somebody else. So
like it could be you know, you

599
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.480
might be feeling more into youure because
you are cooped up. So yeah,

600
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.400
um, he might just be on
Twitter just making means you never know,

601
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:46.760
like he might only fans. Oh
you might have a secret wife. Oh

602
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.559
my god, God he could remember. Like we've had a lot of the

603
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.599
lemmas in the past, Like we're
trying to make someone feel better or worse?

604
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:01.079
Is that what we do this for? No one ever said when I

605
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:04.880
signed up, to be honest,
no one ever said that we were trying

606
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:08.079
to make people feel better about themselves. God, because I don't feel better.

607
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:16.440
I'm okay, Um, but I
just think, yeah, like how

608
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:21.440
I think you should be reasonable,
have a conversation, express your insecurities about

609
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.760
it, don't look through his phone. Um, and yeah, like good

610
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.440
luck with it basically, babes,
and like, yeah, I like it's

611
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.960
a super pressure cooker for any relationship. So just be kind to you and

612
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.239
to your boy. All right,
I think that we should wrap this,

613
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.559
Mama or what do you think?
Girls? Yeah, let's do it.

614
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:45.159
Yeah, let's do it. Let's
go. So John, we've just lost

615
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:51.880
John. He said, he's like
I got his chili. But what he

616
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.920
has told me to do because for
some reason, like we can hear him,

617
00:51:54.920 --> 00:52:00.360
but you can't hear us, um, which is for me blessed,

618
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.880
but um, it is very exciting. So we can actually promo this,

619
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:14.440
probably in a less modest way than
he would. Um. He has got

620
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:20.400
a website called the Accidental Chef dot
co dot uk um and that is launching

621
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:27.559
and I've had a preview of it
and it's absolutely fucking stone some pictures already.

622
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.639
It is like she said that,
like yeah you knew, yeah,

623
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:36.880
yeah, yeah, who knew that
a new flat or talent of any kind

624
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:43.440
I know really jumped out. Believe
it. It's quite remarkable. No,

625
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:49.920
he's a good boy and he can
cook, he can um and actually it

626
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.199
looks so fresh and springy and yeah, it just looks really really nice.

627
00:52:53.239 --> 00:53:01.639
So do check that out, go
like support sudden love? Um absolutely does

628
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:07.920
anyone else? Have any had anything
to promo? I don't have anything to

629
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.039
promo, but I think that the
last thing I'd like to say is that,

630
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:14.360
like, I think one of the
reasons that I've really really struggled this

631
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.480
week, and I think some people
are maybe feeling the same, and I

632
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:21.159
think it is relevant to the gay
community, is that, you know,

633
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.719
I do you know, I live
with a friend of mine who I who

634
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:28.480
is great and I is and I
really respect to me have a very nice

635
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:31.440
time, but when it comes down
to it, like my friendship circle like

636
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.840
as a whole, Like my group
is everything to me. I don't have

637
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.639
a partner, I don't I don't
really speak too much to my family,

638
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:42.320
and they're certainly not in London,
Like I am not leaving the house.

639
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.960
And the one thing that I really
really miss are my friends. And I

640
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:50.559
think that's something for like, I
think that's what's really sort of hit me

641
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.840
this week. But I haven't seen
these people who matter so much to me

642
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:58.639
in like a month, and it's
really shit. And I think that I

643
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:00.239
think that if you're feeling the same
way, I think just you just have

644
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:05.719
to sort of find your little ways
to make those connections a bit a bit

645
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.480
more human. And if if someone
lives like a little bit of a runaway,

646
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.280
like go for a little run and
tell them that you'll be there at

647
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:15.840
too and have a cup of tea
from outside their window and just sort of,

648
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:21.039
you know, say hi, Um, I think just yeah, I

649
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:22.960
just feel like, yeah, shit, it is crap, and I think

650
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:30.079
it's okay to can say that.
I absolutely agree, babe. So I

651
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.840
want to give you a big whole
oh babe, don't touch me, no

652
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.119
one, But I know the feeling
I just turned to now the day I

653
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:43.800
was like, I miss my friends, Like I fucking like that's I feel

654
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:47.239
like it's a big part of ass
Like I think it's a huge part of

655
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:54.239
it's in there. Yeah, um
so yeah, I feel bereft kind of

656
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.400
because people are like dispersed and they're
all just doing things. It's all so

657
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:06.880
discombobulated. So I completely relate.
Um, and I'm sending love and to

658
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.719
anyone out there who's feeling lonely at
this time. Um so yeah, love

659
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:17.880
and solidarity and follow us on Twitter
and Instagram. You can follow us on

660
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.199
Twitter. On the Latch on the
Latch podcast. No, it's just on

661
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:30.360
the latch. Oh my god,
how many fucking years forty five episodes a

662
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.800
Latch podcast on the Latch podcast on
the Latch Sorry, oh my god,

663
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:42.000
Um, I don't actually know.
I have no idea on the Latch on

664
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.159
the Latch podcast for us, So
yeah, thank you all so much.

665
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.960
We'll probably I reckon, we'll yeah, we'll put out another one next week.

666
00:55:50.599 --> 00:56:02.480
Um yeah, stay safe. I'm
look you guys. I the bea

