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Dreamy Live. I mean, iHeart
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Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacob Zalez
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty He welcome back

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to win the Ball hero Fox Sports
fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, He's

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Jacobs as No, we have good
Timmy Lloyd press cover. No no,

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no breaking news. Oh yeah,
that's right. You guys were talking about

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on the Ball baking news at the
Tommy Lake Prescott is in the next segment

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after the uh yeah, start with
the Dino Babers news became official. I

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know it took a little longer.
Some people maybe thought it wasn't gonna work

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out with the Syracuse stuff, but
I mean through all of it, we

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knew. We just took a little
longer, but we got Dino. What

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do you think, Steve, Oh, I think it's a great move,

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right, great move. It's been
took a little while, like you said,

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bringing back the old Yeah, well, you know head coaching experience.

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Right, Look, if if it
was if it wasn't Dino Babers who's been

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here before as the offensive coordinator,
and Brent Brandon had hired a former head

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coach as though see, people will
be one hundred percent behind it, right.

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I know Dino Bambers, Baber's got
some miles now, he's been he's

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been doing this for a really long
time. But you know again, he

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he's he's here, he's been here. I think he understands right right,

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understands he was doing pretty good at
Syria because all it takes is a couple

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of bad years and sure in your
toe, but he did have them in

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you know, top fifteen for a
couple of seams. So yeah, I

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mean one of those years he got
off to like seven to ozer or something

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like that and then kind of fade
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hire too. We've got a lot
of good guys over there, a lot

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of connections, a lot of connections. He has h he's I believe he's

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from Hawaii as well, so more
even more Hawaii pipeline. So that's good

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news. And moving to to Caario
Davis. He is update on the updated

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roster. We will see what happens. But as far as we know right

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now, no no nos, no
news is good news right right. He

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jumped into the portal but hadn't has
a you know, announced with school or

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anything, well yesterday or today.
Well, the portal is closed. You

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can't get in the portal. But
if you're in the portal, you can

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still sign with whoever you okay,
So you don't have to sign in the

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thirty day window. You just you
just got to be in the portal.

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You know. If you're in the
portal right now, you can sign with

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whoever okay, right uh, or
you can go back to where you are,

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no more jumping. Yeah, the
portal deadline pass is passed for Arizona.

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It's wide open for U c l
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just barely starter for UCLA. So
we'll see. I haven't heard of anything.

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Yeah, I haven't heard either.
I have not seen any U c

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l A. We'll move into Arizona
baseball as their season starts. They announced

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that they're going to be having a
new uniform, some powder blue uniforms.

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Very very different than what we're used
to write. They're sharp looking, play

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good, feel good, feel good, play good. Just give me some

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winds. I don't care what you
think. I think. Nineteen eighties of

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Philadelphia Phillies. Nineteen eighties Saint Louis
Cardinals with the power of Blue and Red.

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So how do you feel about them. Honestly, I like them.

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They're different. Yeah, you know, part of it, Steve is those

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those are the same colors that my
high school baseball team. I I mean,

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I wasn't on the varsity, but
our swar High school had uniforms just

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like those as well. The pot
of blue with the red. I like

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the look. It's a good look. It's like, for instance, I

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like the fact that in any of
its uniforms, in any team, Arizona

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has not done black. I like
the fact they haven't. I like that,

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and so because it just doesn't fit. But and pot of blue isn't

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an Arizona color, but it's certainly
a baseball color in terms of uniform that's

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got some history behind it. So
I'm looking at him here a picture on

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social media. I really like the
look. I think they're good looking uniforms.

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Yeah, I think they're had some
excitement, you know for the guys,

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and hopefully, you know, starting
pitching this year is better. I

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know the offenses for Arizona is usually
what what fans like to go out for.

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But yeah, we'll see how this
team looks. I think everyone's excited.

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Yeah they start tomorrow. Yeah,
tomorrow night is the opener Northeastern,

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who's coming in ranked so technically probably
supposed to beat Arizona. But Arizona's got

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a three game set with Northeastern starting
tomorrow. Yeah, okay, and I

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think what's six o'clock or six point
thirty. Let me look it up real

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quick, six o'clock, six o'clock
tomorrow, one o'clock Saturday noon on Sunday,

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so at High Corbidfield. Good.
Good to have baseball back. Now

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we'll move into college basketball news.
I don't know if you guys saw this,

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but Horizon League team Detroit Mercy,
the men's team, they snapped a

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twenty seven game losing streak last night
and they had a loan fans storm the

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court. What did you see that? I saw a one fan court storm.

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He strolled through it. Yeah,
yeah, he just got on the

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cart started jumping around. It was
great. You know, guy was losing

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twenty six and that's got twenty seven. That's got to be hard. That's

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got to be hard on you know, everybody that's the court warm? Yeah,

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warming, that's pretty pretty good.
That was a lot of fun.

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Speaking with basketball, the Pistons Isaiah
Stewart was actually arrested for his altercation with

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the Sun's Drew your Banks. Did
you see that about that? I saw,

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I saw the headlines, but I
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seen a video. But the way
we described, he sucker punched him in

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the parking lot. Oh okay,
yeah, you know, on the way

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in, and I guess some words
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and he got arrest Well he got
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say arrested. He didn't go to
jail. He was giving us titation for

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assault for technically not being arrested.
I mean, when you get it hard,

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when you get a traffic ticket,
that's not being it's called it's technically

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being arrested. But you didn't go
to jail. It's called Wednesday night in

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the NBA, right. Some one
said Draymond Green's handing them the baton.

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Well, Dreymonds had some issues already
this week. I mean, yeah,

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so who did play a nine or
two ago they got Clippers? Was the

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Clippers and there was a fight with
uh what's his name from Duke and he

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kind of you knew he was dying
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but it is what it is.
NBA basketball and then also with NBA

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last night, I don't know if
you guys saw, looks like Steve Kurz

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kind of had enough of Klay Thompson
and his antics and his antics, his

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antics, so he hasn't been playing
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he's kind of been I mean,
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but just kind of the way that
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things defensively. And I've never seen
Kurr react this way, but he kind

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of like threw his hands down like
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and he was, yeah, just
disgusted kind of with it. And everyone's

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saying that this might be the end, the end of it for uh,

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he's not that good a player anymore. He's been you know, his his

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lifeblood has been you know, the
three point shot, and you know,

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did a lot of good with that
with you know, helped him win championships,

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but it's kind of gone away.
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three pointers, then his value was
like no sure and his and his trade

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value was just almost right. Yeah, it's just very very odd to see

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Curve react that way. We've never
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has been there. It's he's kind
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it's been a rough go for them
as they they lost last night again

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flash brother, they've been okay letally
they've been started winning again, but not

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as well. Yeah they lost us
close game. Yeah, I saw I

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saw interesting news from Japan Rentaro Sasaki, the Japanese high school slugger, rather

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than joining the Japan Pro League,
he's gonna go and play at Stanford.

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Whoa. Yeah, good for Stanford
and good that we're getting him out of

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the league so we don't have to
see that guy. Wow, you know,

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I mean in the end if something, you know, I always thought,

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how could he turn down to Stanford
scholarship? You're an athlete, right,

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Blake Martinez remember and and any and
John Volpi from here? Uh you

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know, got you got the got
you know, you get a chance to

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go to Stanford. Well that's the
kind of set for Jay. That's the

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whole thing in this being in this
PAC twelve and people say, well it's

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Arizona and blah blah blah. Okay, you have a chance to go to

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Stanford. And I thought the fun
with this with you or talked about it

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Stanford USC Washington, Oregon to play
football. Just play football. You're gonna

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say no, Yeah, you crazy, You're not. Yeah. I mean

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all the way back to the Collins
twins, right and they went to stand

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and Luke thought he had him.
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story before because I covered well obviously
I covered the team and then and I

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talked to uh doing the doing the
recruiting, and they chose Stanford and Wright

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and lou thought that he had him, and I try to talk to them.

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The parents wouldn't put him on the
phone, but the mom talked to

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me, it's just Steve. If
you have a chance, best is going

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to be there for just a certain
amount of time. You have a degree

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from Stanford. Do you have that
for a lifetime? Oh? Thank you,

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missus Collins were talking to me.
I mean, I would never let

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my kids go to a SU,
but Stanford, I said, get the

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hell out of here, go to
Stanford. Create. Uh, we're breaking

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another Adam or something, create something, Get me out of this. Taking

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with the college news. Some crazy
news out of LSU running back Trey Hawley

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was arrested on felony for a time. Did second degree murder chart? Yeah?

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Murder charge and he actually turned himself
in. Yeah, the report says

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guns guns again, but you know, who knows what happened, right,

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But we know that he's he shot
somebody, allegedly shot somebody. He's got

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a second attempted second degree murder count. That's that significant prison time. If

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you get a lot of times,
they'll plead these down to assaults or whatever

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and maybe you'll do a year six
months, But once you got a felony

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on your on your record, if
you they're never going to plead him down

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to a misdemeanor on something like this. So he's gonna have a felony on

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his record for life and that's just
not a good way to have to go

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through life. And he's a young
dude. So yeah, I mean I

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always think about if you know college, college athletes, you would think would

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more more likely stay away from that
stuff because they are athletes, but then

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some of them don't. Some don't. Yeah, moving into the NFL.

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Uh, I'm sure you guys have
heard the news, but uh, Steve

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Wolkes was really those duties as defensive
coordinator. Following the Super Bowl, some

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name early names have popped up,
like Mike Rabil or Pete Carroll, names

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like that. So it's gonna be
super interesting to see how that search goes

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for them, because you know,
the Niners have been having to replace defensive

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coordinators quite often, like this is
three out of four years or something like

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that is what I thought I heard. Yeah, you get no continuity there,

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and that's hard. You know.
Somebody asked the question, Okay,

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you're you're you know, you fired
this guy after the Super Bowls that you

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lost. If they had won,
would they still have fired him? Nobody

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has the answer to nobody, But
all indications for the reason they didn't involve

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the game, right, Yeah,
I mean yeah, I mean they actually

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played a good defensive game. So
they're the third best defense in the in

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the NFL. So what yeah?
What, what the heck? What the

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heck was going on? Was it
just a personality personalities didn't match up or

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probably that, Yeah, And I
think Nick Bosa even mentioned it in his

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postseason press conference. He said that
we weren't prepared for the we weren't prepared

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for the Mahomes option play there towards
the end. So so maybe there was

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some indicatives that maybe they weren't prepared
as as much as they like. I'm

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not sure how, but weren't prepared
for the Mahomes option. Isn't that like

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a number one, A one B
outside of what yeah runs? Yeah,

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that that the play? I think
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's strange. It wouldn't that be

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your like number two things? Yeah. And then also that time out that

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Shanahan used to kind of go over
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want to I don't I don't like
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if it was leading up to this
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they're gonna have to replace him in
I mean, they're there's some names out

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there. We'll see what what happens. But their staff has just been getting

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poached all over. Running backs coach
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the Commanders, and their past game
coordinator Clint Kubiak is the Saints offensive coordinator

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now, and they lost their assistant
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So yeah, I think this is
a lesson though for for Arizona fans as

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well though, because when it's when
your team has success, you can't be

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surprised when when players or coaches are
trying to get poached by by a bigger

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schools. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, that's all the major news

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I had on off you guys had
anything to discuss. Something just came across

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and we've been talking about there's been
a lot of discussion about the how much

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the increase in interest in football among
women, right, the whole thing with

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Taylor Swift and all that kind of
stuff. So things just came across us

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that said that female wagering on the
Super Bowl, female wagering jumped fifty one

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percent. Wow, well, there's
a lot of in your in your fantasy

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football. Do you have women?
Yeah, plenty of party three? Yeah?

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Two? How many? How many? There's ten of us? I

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think twenty percent of them. I
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a lot of them in fantasy football. I don't I don't like it,

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but they're creeping up. I thought
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between twelve year old ten year old
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two million? Uh, watch you
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of Taylor Swift right, and then
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for women, women's flag football,
high school flag football. Yeah, look,

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it's great. Yeah, I love
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have a correction. You want to
do the wrestling thing there real quick before

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we had the head to the break
correction. Uh, we reported just from

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other sources from and and Marals and
those guys, that Audrey Hymann is the

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wrestler at Sunnyside, was the first
female wrestler to qualify for the boys state

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wrestling tournament. Turns out that her
name is Miu Yamamoto from Tampe Cronodil sold

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back in nineteen ninety three qualified for
the state wrestling tournament. And then there

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was Shauna Isbel from Flagstaff, Coconino, also back in two thousand and nine.

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So she's not the first, but
she is the first because today she

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won her first two matches and she
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class. So that's a first.
All right, we'll be right back.

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and just talking about some other issues
as usual for the week. So we're

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just going to play that and let
it run. So listen in all right,

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guys, let's get it done.
Time off and I don't know how

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much time did you take off?
One? Yeah, we just we took

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you know, mixed the day off. I mean, but it's been good.

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It's been good. Is that what
it's been these last Well, we

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work on ourselves every day, you
know, I mean, and we work

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on ourselves every day and we prepare
to play against opponents every day. So

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it's been business as usual. What
do you mean if you guys have recently

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played the last two games, Well, you know, I mean Arizona States.

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You know, they're a dangerous team. They're they're they're you know,

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streaky, you know, and and
and and and I say that in uh

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and with all due respect you know, to to We know that they're going

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to come in here and they're gonna
give a great effort. And you know,

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they got some you know, really
talented individual players. They play extremely

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hard. You know, they're they're
probably one of the most you know,

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aggressive defensive teams will have played all
year. And then you know, offensively,

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they have ability to make make difficult
shots and and so so we got

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to be dialed in. And you
know, Collins is a really good player

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at both ends of the floor.
And then Neil is really talented, you

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know, and in Perez, we've
never played against him, but you know,

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I'm obviously he scored a lot of
points over the courts of his career,

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and he's and he's really effective.
And you know, Gaffney continues to

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develop and he's talented and dangerous.
I mean, there's not many guys who

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can catch a lob and hit a
three, and he can do that.

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And you know that they got some
bigs that are aggressive. And then the

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Miller kid, you know, you
know, it's a high level recruit.

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I know he's had some injuries and
transferred a little bit, but you know,

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he's also I've seen him play in
high school and I know, you

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know, he's a lefty that's capable
of, you know, getting really hot.

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You know, it seems like when
Michael crowd shows out, when UCLA

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or Asus on the other sideline,
what are you seeing kind of what we

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you see from this crowd this weekend? Raising more juice? Well, I

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expect to see, you know,
great energy from our crowd, and our

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crowd's been I think they've been great, you know, in my three years,

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this is I think like the best
they've been, you know, overall.

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And you know, not not that
I need to be rating him or

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anything, but I think they've been
great. And I think they know this

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team has a chance to be special, and they know we're competing for a

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PAC twelve championship in the last year
of the PAC twelve. So I think

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our fans are all aboard and behind
us with what went into Kylon's injury at

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the end of the Utah game,
but maybe not knowing how much you were

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gonna have him for Colorado. What
was the preparation process like to get Conrad

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ready for when you've turned after the
game is real minutes and Conrad is ready,

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And you know, I mean in
Jay Rock, you know, you

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know, you know, told me
that he felt was pretty certain that Kylin

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would be okay to play, and
you know, and and Conrad playing in

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that game really had nothing to do
with you know, Kylon's you know,

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you know, banged up shoulder.
It had to do more with you know,

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I was just managing the game.
We had some foul trouble the clocks

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at twelve oh one, and you
know, I, you know, we

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had a little bit of a lead
and I and I just felt like the

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game, the way the game was
being played, that Conrad could impact it.

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And it is and I trust putting
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you know it, you know,
I didn't think it would go bad,

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you know, but but it almost
went perfect, you know, his little

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run in there. So I think
He's a guy that you know, I

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really believe in him, and I
know, you know, over the course

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of his career at Arizona, he's
going to become a fan favorite and a

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real contributor here. Did you see
him getting minutes in the first half in

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a game? I mean, I
honestly, you know, I haven't thought

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that far ahead, you know,
I mean, just this was a situation,

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you know, where the game is
playing out. I'm trying to manage

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the game and win the game.
I you know, look up and see

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an opportunity to put him in.
We're in foul trouble. It was,

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you know, it wasn't I didn't, you know, make a decision before

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the game that I was gonna put
Conrade into the second half of the twelve

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minute media timeout. It's just how
the game played out. So if it

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happened, I think Conrad would be
fine, and I think we would be

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fine, either of the rivalryes.
Since you've been here, you know,

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I try not to overthink it,
you know, I mean, I mean,

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I know, you know it it
runs a lot deeper in some people

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than me, you know, I
mean, I know, you know,

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probably you know, people don't realize
you know Bobby and I are friends,

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you know, I mean we're friendly. I mean we don't just hang out

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all the time or talk on the
phone all the time, but we're definitely

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you know, we have a good
relationship. And you know, I respect

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him as a person and as a
coach, and and you know, so

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I don't try to get much beyond
that, you know, I mean,

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I know not only have play Arizona
State twice. I know it's gonna be

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a hard game. You know,
just the way they're built, they're a

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dangerous team, so you know,
but I also understand our fans are very

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passionate about it, and I and
I and I'm I'm cool with that.

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I respect that. How much do
the newcomers know about the rivalry? And

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you know, I have the veterans
of the team help, so I give

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some more knowledge about who played the
game over Yeah, I mean, I

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think that's always something for us.
You know that. You know, when

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when you have you know, half
your team's international guys, you know,

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sometimes they don't understand the built in
rivalries. You know that that happened within

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college basketballs and in fan bases.
You know, now if they're playing against

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another country, that they grew up
playing against They understand, so you just

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have to kind of get on that
level and explain it to them a little

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bit, you know. And then
our are our guys that have been around

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you don't know, you know what
this game means means to our fans and

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what it means to us. And
in my main focus, to be honest,

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is you know how this game impacts
our season. I mean, that's

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how I really focus on, I
think, and what I have different circumstances,

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different players, especially for them,
but just the way they won last

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year with that sixty foot or whatever
it was on Senior Day sticks in the

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lines of the guys you have back
from that. I mean, I mean,

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I'm sure they have a good feeling
about it, and I'm sure we

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don't have a great feeling about it, but you know, we don't sit

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around and talk about it, you
know. You know, I just know

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situationally, we probably could have handled
things a little bit better, and that

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starts with me. But you know, I learn and I grow too big

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picture about this team. Right now, you guys, we have we have

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coffee opposition on Saturday night, just
when you guys go on the road or

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the toughest swing in the Pac twelve. You win in triple over time.

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Why does that be the toughest.
Why can't Arizona Arizona State be the toughest?

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Just wise, but you get your
life back it up with facts.

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I'm cool, thank you, good
for you, and you're une back underneath

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you after a triple overtime game and
then going and playing the way you did

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at Colorado? Who I'm lost to? How do you feel about your guys

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or we get of that? I
like where we're at. I mean,

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I like where we're at, but
you know, more importantly, I like

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where we're going, and you know, and my job is just to make

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sure we continue to get better and
tighten things up and you know, give

407
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ourselves the best possible chance every night
out to win games. I mean,

408
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so I like where we're at,
you know, now, liking where we're

409
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at and guaranteeing that we play great
on Saturday or two different things. You

410
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know, we got to come out
and make it happen. And it's that

411
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time of year, you know,
February going into March. You got to

412
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:38.759
come out and you got to make
it happen every day. There's no what

413
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:44.759
you did last week doesn't really impact
this week. Some of these last shot

414
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possessions, you know, Florida Atlantic, Utah, where you're trying to win

415
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the game in the end, How
would you best describe offensively what you're looking

416
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.359
to try to I mean, it's
a I mean, I know, from

417
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your guys' seat, it probably looks
like it could be better, and it

418
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could be better. But I would
also say from the reality, it's a

419
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lot harder than it looks. If
you watch the end of these games,

420
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like on a night in night out
basis, I mean, it's hard to

421
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.480
get good shots at the end of
the game. You know, it really

422
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.759
is. And you know, you
you know, by this time of year,

423
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.079
you're heavily scouted. You know,
teams know your tendencies. I feel

424
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like we're trending in a better direction
now than maybe when we did the Florida

425
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.480
State game, and you know,
the second overtime, you know, you

426
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.839
thought that's my fault. You know, they were they were switching defenses,

427
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.880
and you know, and I figured, man, I'm gonna call it time

428
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.400
out and they're just gonna switch defenses
again, you know, And I was

429
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like, hey, we got the
ball in one of our better players hands,

430
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and I know he's capable of making
a shot. You know, he

431
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and I have talked since then that, you know, we we probably don't

432
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need to settle for a thirty footer. We need to put the ball on

433
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.160
the floor, use our athletic ability
and make a play, you know,

434
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.319
whether it's for yourself or for our
teammates. So it's just it's just hard

435
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.279
to script at the end of a
game, it really is. You know,

436
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:56.880
teams. You know, you could
play against a team all game and

437
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.240
they're playing a certain type of defense
and you get in the last possession,

438
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now they switch everything or they go
to a zone, you know. So

439
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:08.920
it's just it's a lot easier said
than done, which I guess in terms

440
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.759
of not wanting to turn it over
in that in that well, I mean

441
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.240
that's the most important thing. I
mean, if the game is tied,

442
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:19.519
I mean, the biggest responsibility is
they don't get a shot on goal the

443
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.279
other team, you know, if
you have the ball, I mean,

444
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.799
that's that's the number one thing.
Don't put yourself in a position to lose,

445
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.279
you know. So now, yeah, you want to be mindful and

446
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.880
be aggressive on offense for sure,
to you know, create opportunities, but

447
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.119
I thought, you know, I
can't remember it was the end of the

448
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:41.039
first overtime or maybe regulation. You
know, Caleb drove the ball hard and

449
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.519
there was contact could have been called
a foul. I mean, you know,

450
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.799
not that anybody would want to gain
necessarily and like that, but probably

451
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:49.920
throughout the flow of the game was
a foul. They don't call it,

452
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.680
So you know that that's that also
happens. You know, players know that,

453
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.319
you know, you put the ball
on the floor, you drive it

454
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.400
in there, you know, you
know you're you know, are you going

455
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.119
to get the same call that you
would have got at the sixteen minute mark?

456
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.759
Probably not, So you know,
I think that that factors and players

457
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.359
and coaches' minds as well. Use
averaging about twelve steals a game. Is

458
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.519
it mostly poking the ball out of
someone's hands or is it doc jumping?

459
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:18.599
They are extremely handsy, extremely aggressive, and they're not afraid to take chances.

460
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.119
So so when you play them,
you got to play with great fundamentals

461
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.519
and great poise, and you know, it just it's just unique how they

462
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.160
play defense and they're very aggressive and
they're good at it. They're similar.

463
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.359
I mean they then you voice him
in. I think they had nine transfers

464
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.079
last year, a lot of new
faces. Are they kind of fundamentally still

465
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.200
look the same when you look at
it. Yeah, I mean I think

466
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.119
they're playing the same way, you
know. I mean I think they are,

467
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.039
for the most part playing playing very
similar And you know, Perez is

468
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.640
a little different entity. You know, he's kind of a power fore man.

469
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.480
You know, his ability to put
the ball on the floor, get

470
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.160
to the free throw line, post
up, you know, things like that.

471
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.920
So but yeah, but but but
but all in all, it's similar

472
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.599
to how they've been. Are they
kind of an example of I don't know

473
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:04.880
or if you guys even think of
this stuff, just the way it is

474
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.839
nowadays where you have nil and other
things which appeared to be a factor with

475
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:15.440
him and after you know, Bruce, I only have enough bandwidth to coach

476
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.400
one program, and that's Arizona.
So I don't have enough bandwidth to be

477
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.160
worrying about what other people are doing
or or it is. You know,

478
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.759
it's obviously it's a tough business,
you know, I just know Saturday,

479
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.240
no matter how he slice and dice
it, it's gonna be a hard game.

480
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.599
He's played very well lately overly.
Is it mostly an energy or what's

481
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.160
been the transition for him to give? Yeah, I think he's played with

482
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.960
great energy and effort. I think
you always want to start there with any

483
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.759
player, you know, and especially
your big guys. And you know,

484
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.200
I just thinkause he's you know,
his confidence has kind of returned to a

485
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.279
high level. And yeah, he's
played great. I mean when O plays

486
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.480
really good and with great energy and
great effort, he's a he's a separator

487
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.000
for us. So you know,
I'm happy for him and I'm happy for

488
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.039
our team. That's the way he's
been playing. I was wondering about Jade

489
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.440
and the way he's been playing too, And you know, obviously he's accepted

490
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.400
that role. I'm wondering how you
manage that, and have you had to

491
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.160
manage it with family, posse,
who's ever around him? You know,

492
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.000
because a guy like that, with
his pedigree and you know, well,

493
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.559
for one, for one, I'm
not going to comment on what I would

494
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.599
do with a family or a posse. Okay, okay, so I'm not

495
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:27.200
doing that too. Jaden Bradley is
a great, high character kid who his

496
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:32.440
number one focuses on helping his team
win and you know what, could he

497
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.480
have a bigger role maybe? Is
he thriving in the role he's in.

498
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.480
Yes, and that's very important for
us and for any program to be good.

499
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.240
So I'm thankful we have him.
I really value him, and I

500
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.519
think he's gonna have a great impact
on Arizona basketball over the course of his

501
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.680
career. Yes, I mean,
like, because you know, he's got

502
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.359
Donald with IMG, got all that
went to Alabama then left when it looked

503
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.200
like his roles a little reduced.
You think on the without knowing him,

504
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:04.240
maybees got my big guy who losts
me. He's a high character team first,

505
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:10.079
amazing person. I mean, enough
said with Kylon, can you simplify

506
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.000
it to if he's aggressive he's more
likely to play well? Then well,

507
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.960
I mean I think you could deduce
that with almost any player, you know,

508
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.480
but but for sure, I mean, yeah, when Kylon is more

509
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.480
aggressive and more decisive, he's had
more success, you know, but that's

510
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.960
part of growing and learning, learning, you know. I mean, I

511
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.839
mean, hey, listen, Kylon's
getting better week by week, and he

512
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:32.839
might not always see it, you
know, statistically or at his performance,

513
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.920
but you know, I mean somebody
had told me, you know, I

514
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.000
think somebody's doing our sig job.
And told me that he thirty points over

515
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.200
a weekend was his highest two game
total of his Arizona career. So I

516
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.240
mean it's pretty good. He's getting
better and and I love where he's at,

517
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.519
and I like the conversations we're having, you know, and I think

518
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.359
you know, in one of those
games, I can't remember which game it

519
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.880
was, but you know, he
and JB combined for twenty five points,

520
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.079
like you know, I don't know, seven eight assists in one turnover.

521
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.680
I mean that's that's great production from
you know, your point guard spot.

522
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.440
I mean, so, so you
know we're lucky at Arizona to have really

523
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.480
good players. Your defense to be
aggressive, Yeah, for sure. I

524
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:16.719
mean I want it to be.
I mean, you have more seals than

525
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.760
ASU does, and you have the
seven guys with at least twenty. Is

526
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:24.559
it a matter of more opportunistic or
always trying to end the possession before a

527
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:29.280
shot? No, I mean we're
going to play solid, sound defense.

528
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:30.719
But you know, we were not
afraid to pressure the ball. We're not

529
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.840
afraid to be handsy, We're not
afraid to break on a pass. So

530
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.920
yeah, no, I mean we
better be playing aggressive defense or you know,

531
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:42.880
you know, I probably won't be
very happy. One more question.

532
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.760
You had said up last week in
terms of a question about altering your lineup

533
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:52.440
that you felt good about where you
were at. Where does that feeling come

534
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.880
from when you're still young in your
coaching career from the standpoint like last year

535
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.320
you did make a change this year, you don't. How do you kind

536
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:05.360
of well young? Hmm. I
don't know about if I feel young twenty

537
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.719
five years. You know, I've
been around a lot, and you know,

538
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.519
and believe it or not, you
know, my mind doesn't really turn

539
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.840
off thinks about the game twenty four
to seven. So you know, I

540
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.119
just think you you know, you
feel like you know what's best for your

541
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:21.440
team and the players on your team, and you know it doesn't mean there's

542
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.320
not another way to do it.
But but you know, I'm I'm I'm

543
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.840
comfortable and convicted in the way we're
doing things and and I feel like our

544
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:32.320
players are as well. Okay,
there we guys, can we have it

545
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for with Tommy Lloyd? We'll come
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We have sid with us today.
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We'd love to hear from you new
callers accepted first time listeners exactly. That'd

595
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be great. So I just think
of the press conference. What do you

596
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:16.400
think of that? You just,
you know, what do you I mean,

597
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I don't know, I don't know
what's he gonna say. He's kind

598
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of I don't know. I asked
him two questions that you know, I

599
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didn't really care about the answers.
But you know, he's been here,

600
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.480
this is his third year. Is
it really a rivalry? Not really,

601
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:32.960
but they do sneak up on you
every now and again. Oh yeah,

602
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.320
he just kind of play up a
issue. Just hasn't been good for a

603
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long time, like almost ever,
almost ever. But you know, when

604
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.280
Bill Frieder was there in the nineties, they beat Arizona con every now and

605
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.360
again. You think of the fat
lever teams, fats waiting the back of

606
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the day, but even under the
sewn Sean Miller was barely over five hundred

607
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.400
against them. Yeah, and his
good team, well it was in that

608
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.559
when in that time they had James
Harden and Eddie house Cup, guys like

609
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.920
that. Yeah. Maybe, but
everyone that was pretty damn good in those

610
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.239
times. He just didn't, you
know, he'd be stunned. That was

611
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.159
his achilles heel from time to time. If you look at the record,

612
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.199
that's probably gonna be fourteen and twelve, maybe in twelast the last big one

613
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.760
was like what twenty eighteen seven?
He was he was part of that right

614
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:22.159
up until up in Tempeede again.
Yeah, yeah, here we gotta call

615
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.840
Hi. You're on the air and
on the ball. Hey Jay, Hey

616
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.159
Steve, this is Donnie. How
you doing, Doug? How are you?

617
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.519
I'm doing good, man, I'm
doing good. I'm a little disheartened

618
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:45.280
after that press conference. How so
well, I just I just found out

619
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:51.039
Tommy don't care about the rivalry.
Yeah, he just he just said him,

620
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.360
him and uh him and his confounderate
Bobby there. You know, they

621
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:59.119
just they love to hang out and
you know this is gonna be one of

622
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.119
those things for all we don't like
to play each other kind of thing we

623
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:10.519
want to hear. But he wants
to win every game. And look what

624
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:15.679
he said, Jay, I know, but I'm saying what he said.

625
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.440
You know, he wants to win
every game. But he did say that

626
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.800
he's not going to take that,
he's not going to take the rivalry more

627
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:29.119
serious than that. And that's okay. Who who do you think is Arizona

628
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:36.800
Basketball's biggest right? Is it a
s U? It's not. I would

629
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.679
say a s U is one A
in in the league. In the league,

630
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:50.400
it's U C L A on the
national on the national thing. Historically,

631
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.000
I would say I would I would
call it Duke. More recently it

632
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:59.000
would be Wisconsin. Let me ask
you, you're you're you're you're you're a

633
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.079
semi old guy, right your years
older Steve, and Steve's pretty old.

634
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.400
Thinking back to the let's say the
seventies in football, when a SU was

635
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:12.519
beating the hell out of Arizona every
year, and and they you know,

636
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.679
they they played USC a couple of
times and came out and said, we

637
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.519
don't think Arizona is our biggest rival
because we kick your asses all the time.

638
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.079
We think it's USC. And I
remember hearing that I'm thinking I couldn't

639
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.920
really argue with that. I mean, you remember that or were you here

640
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.280
for that? I don't. I
don't remember hearing hearing that about the rivalry.

641
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:38.480
I mean I remember I remember from
a very young age hating Frank Kush

642
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.559
Yeah yeah, and uh and enjoying
the mess he got himself into when he

643
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:49.920
when he slapped around his kicker.
But but but the point being though,

644
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.519
that that ASU Arizona was making a
bigger deal of the rivalry than a SU

645
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.840
was because A he thought we were
we weren't worth the time, and they

646
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.239
wanted a bigger arrival. And and
that I feel like that the same kind

647
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:09.039
has happened between Arizona and a s
U basketball where Arizona pretty much every fan

648
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.360
you asked is going to say,
I think U c l A is a

649
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.719
big arrival because a s U so
often isn't very good, isn't good?

650
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.760
Right? But the thing is is, But the thing is is a s

651
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.880
U still beats us from time to
time, right, so do other teams.

652
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:29.880
And that's a because you and I
as fans, we you know,

653
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.800
we hate losing to a SU.
I lookt this way, I'd rather lose

654
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.320
to U c l A than a
s U because they most of the time

655
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.199
U c l A is pretty good. And you think a s U doesn't

656
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.400
deserve to be shouldn't you shouldn't beating
in Arizona and basketball? Ever, don

657
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.440
don let me give you there's hold
on before you say that. Don you're

658
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.679
Tommy Gooyd. I'm asking you the
question, what do you what do you

659
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:55.000
make of the deep the rivalry,
mister coach? Tell me your answer.

660
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.760
Well, we've had We've had a
lot of a lot of sick sass against

661
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:07.239
them recently and historically. It's always
a fun game to play. Coach,

662
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.920
Bobby and I are friends. We're
friendly between us, so you know that's

663
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.239
that's always a good time to get
together with your friends, and and and

664
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:21.519
and and get and get a game
in. You know, I understand what

665
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:28.679
he said. I don't like it. I know, guys, guys,

666
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:34.119
I'm a part of the class.
Now, I'm a part of the class.

667
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:45.039
What Tommy say, Donnie say?
But but talking talking about the rivalry,

668
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:49.719
guys, my grandson is is gonna
be is in the horse show up

669
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.000
in Scottsdale, in the Arabian Horse
Show up there. We're going up there

670
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:58.559
Saturday morning, and I back the
A when I go up there. When

671
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.920
I go up there, where I
would my Arizona stuff. Good, good

672
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:05.280
on you. The same as when
I go traveling, when I go to

673
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:08.599
California, my travel where is Arizona
when I go that way? Well,

674
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.800
I had a three year stretch in
football when I didn't wear it up there,

675
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.719
though, I will tell you that
just I never not wear it when

676
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:22.039
I go. You're a better fan
than me, Yeah, okay, I

677
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.920
just I just like the to and
fro. Yeah, yeah, And it's

678
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:30.039
good and it's it's usually fun.
It's usually fun. Yeah, all right,

679
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:31.159
don thanks a bunch, man,
I'll see you. Take care.

680
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:37.119
Guys. You know I didn't have
a problem with you know, with what

681
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:42.119
because he was basically the same win. Look, Tommy's to hint. I

682
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:44.599
think, to Tommy, everybody's arrival
and you're just trying to win games.

683
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.840
That's what you're trying to do.
And you know his approach is to not

684
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.840
make one game bigger than the next. And that's what most coaches do,

685
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.760
even though they know their guys.
I mean, he said at the top,

686
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.519
I know the guys are probably thinking
about it. They're thinking about it,

687
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:01.960
you know, but you know it
is what it is. So I

688
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.760
didn't have a problem with anything that
he did or said there. Yeah,

689
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.599
I mean he's not lying. I
mean he's being real about it. You

690
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.000
know. Of course, of course, if you if your buddy is on

691
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:15.159
the other side, buddy might be
even too much friendly to each other.

692
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:16.599
They know each other, right,
Okay, you want to beat them,

693
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.519
of course, And then that's what
he said. He's still gonna win,

694
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.039
he's not going to lose. I
just don't know how anybody could be friends

695
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:28.239
with Bobby Hurley. I'm sorry that
was that was me. Kyle Dodd's going

696
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.480
to be yelling at us about that
tomorrow if you're you know, look,

697
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.679
I'm I'm you know, it's I'm
still mixed about whether or not I think

698
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.519
Bobby Hurley's been a good coach,
because he's been good coach at times and

699
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.519
then there's other times he's just been
terrible. Well he hasn't been his brother,

700
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:49.119
No, he's not his brother.
But you know what, but you

701
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.760
know, yukon a s U,
you know where you gonna who's got the

702
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:58.559
players right? So I don't know, let's take this call. You're on

703
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:00.840
the air and eye on the ball. How's it going today, what's up,

704
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.840
Brian. I don't think they're you
know, the rivalry stuff. And

705
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:10.039
I understand what he's saying because he
hasn't been around Arizona that much, you

706
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:14.639
know, three years, and I
mean he understands there's a rival between as

707
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:15.960
U and U of A. But
I think what he's trying to say is

708
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.559
that game is one game, and
we need to win it, right,

709
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.920
and then we need to move on
to the next game and win that game

710
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.480
and then move on to the next
game. In other sports, I think

711
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.599
football is probably the biggest rivalry between
the two schools, not basketball. Oh

712
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.199
yeah, for the reason you said
too that ESU has not been very good

713
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.920
at basketball and so yeah, and
neither one of us have been that great

714
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:44.000
in football either or something true.
So you can have a rivalry when both

715
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.079
teams think. Yeah, all you
have to do is ask here, in

716
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.559
the Arizona basketball fan, I have
two tickets. I have a ticket to

717
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.719
a UCLA game, and I have
a ticket to an ASU game. Which

718
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.920
one would you rather have? Ucla? Yeah, most people are going to

719
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.079
say UCLA. I agree, right, right, And I understand that completely.

720
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.320
And you know, it's it's it's
really tough, you know. I

721
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.480
mean for the people who've been around
for fifty years or so watching areas on

722
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.360
the sports. Like you said,
there was no rivalry back and I mean

723
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.800
we had, of course, we
wanted to beat a issue back in the

724
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.760
seventies, but it wasn't much of
a rivalry there beating the crap out of

725
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.360
us all the time, exactly,
and and you know, and then it

726
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.039
changed, and then we got really
good and they weren't. And then they

727
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:27.159
got good again and we weren't,
and we got good and they weren't.

728
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:29.760
So it just goes, you know, back and forth. But that to

729
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:35.599
me is more of a rivalry than
basketball. Yeah, yeah, you know.

730
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.039
And and also to go to a
u of AA issue baseball game,

731
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:42.880
that's a pretty good rivalry there.
Well, there be some bad things that

732
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.519
have happened in those games, oh
yeah. I mean, even even when

733
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.199
either team is that good, right, it's a good rivalry game to go

734
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.079
to. If a band wants to
go to a rivalry game, go to

735
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:57.679
that. Go to that, correct, man, some of those All right,

736
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.559
right, thanks a much, man, talk to you, Okay,

737
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.480
A good call, bro, Yeah, good call to Yeah, No,

738
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.800
look, and everybody's got their own
opinion on on on the rivalries where you

739
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:13.599
know where they are. But you
know, I've I've always because even as

740
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.320
Brian said, you know, it
took a while fare you know, in

741
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:21.119
the seventies sometimes seventies, you know, AC was way better than Arizona for

742
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.440
the most part during the during those
times and even into the into the PAC

743
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.199
twelve years, right into the whacking
in the PAC twelve years and Arizona came

744
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.400
up. I think the seventies sixteen
was the team that Bob Elliott and they

745
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.400
got to the Elite eight and all
that kind of stuff. That team was,

746
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.719
you know, was fred Stones' best
team and was really good. But

747
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.039
at that time, as you had
it had it on Arizona pretty much in

748
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.880
all the sports, baseball even baseball. You know what a bunch of national

749
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.360
championship was better coaches, better what
what I think it had more to do

750
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.159
with, you know, fan base
and Phoenix and you know, you know

751
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:58.880
they they were athletically, they were
they were a better school because they were

752
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.119
just a bigger school and and had
the and had the players and you know,

753
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.559
Frank Cuk and a lot of it
had to do with Frank Cush the

754
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.760
pro the football program was so good, you know, even though it was

755
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.000
in the wack, was so good
that it attracted athletes from you know,

756
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:14.719
the other sports, just like basketball
does you know for Arizona, they were

757
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.159
just really good and they were a
bit better than Arizona, and it was

758
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:22.559
like they were bigger, the bigger
city, the bigger university of tih the

759
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:28.199
TI turn in the early eighties when
Larry Smith got here and when Luke got

760
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.000
here, who got here not quite
at the same time, but you know,

761
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.360
like like like Larry Smith, Arizona
got his ass kicked in Larry Smith's

762
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.360
first year, bad bad loss,
like forty four to seven or something like

763
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.599
that. Played closer in eighty one
game up there, and then Arizona beat

764
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.039
him in eighty two and it started
that streak where they didn't lose for ten

765
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.639
years. And that was the time. That was when Luke got here.

766
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.320
He flipped the rivalry, so right, you know, in eight eighty three

767
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.280
time, Frank's when that thing tells
me coaching matters, Coaching does matter.

768
00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.519
Coaching matters, and it mattered here. Arizona got the coaches one that made

769
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.800
it a priority to beat those guys, and then two made it possible to

770
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.199
beat those guys. Yeah, right, and ever since they've been kind of

771
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:10.079
on the more winning trend or ruining
side of it. Yeah. I think

772
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.480
if you go back to eighty two, whatever the record is between Arizona and

773
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:20.159
Arizona State, what's more in football
that Arizona's got a lot more wins.

774
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.039
But you have to count the ones
before that when a SU would beat Arizona,

775
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.960
like you have to mention them,
right, absolutely. Okay, Hey,

776
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:29.159
good show today, all right,
good stuff, tout Todd Holdhouse,

777
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.599
thank you for being here, good
luck with the getting your team to the

778
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:36.559
national tournament. Thank you Tommy Lloyds
for pishing off one of our listeners,

779
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.159
and thank you Sich for the breaking
news problem. All right, always a

780
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:44.920
pleasure. Okay, Well, we'll
be back tomorrow more preview of the SU

781
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.840
game with Kyle Dodd, their color
announcers, So be sure to come back tomorrow