WEBVTT 1 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:34.320 Hello, and welcome to Blurry Photos. I am David Flora and I'm David 2 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:40.520 Stecko, and this week we will be discussing some cryptozoology for you. Maybe 3 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:45.600 maybe it's crypto zoology. I don't know. It could be the real yeah, 4 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:49.600 yeah, it could be a UFO, could be an interdimensional being whose 5 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:54.000 exact motives we don't understand. Who knows. Man, Let's let's jump right 6 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:57.560 into this. At this point, everyone's already figured out there's only one thing 7 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:03.320 we're talking about, the moth man, some breem off. That's all right, 8 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:10.359 Spanish from off, all right, stecco. So let's say just imagine 9 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:14.599 you are a woman. I was already doing it, all right. This 10 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:19.640 is the early sixties, Okay, you're driving down Route two, West Virginia, 11 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:26.239 absolutely all right, just outside a point pleasant, just outside somewhere near 12 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.760 there. These the early ones were a little ways away, not not exactly 13 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.439 in, but we'll go to that. So you're driving down Route two. 14 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.840 I'm driving in the sixties, and I'm a woman. You're a woman. 15 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:42.760 Oh this besides fake shed so far. So there's this. You see this 16 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:48.719 large man shaped figure that steps onto the road in front of you. So 17 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.640 you what do you do. I swerve to avoid him. I applied the 18 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.680 parke the brakes or the prakes, the prakes and the brakes and the Jonathan 19 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.680 frakes. Yeah thanks, so yeah you you you slow down and then all 20 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:07.080 of a sudden, you see these two huge wings spread from behind this thing, 21 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:12.840 and it ups it up and flies away. What do you do? 22 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:16.879 Woman in the sixties, I go immediately to the police and file report of 23 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.599 what I have seen on this day. But you don't, oh, come 24 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:27.439 because you would be labeled as crazy. That's true, but this is West 25 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.560 Virginia. If I ran into town screaming, lordy, lordy, I just 26 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:35.919 done seeing the devil, local hero, you would have cops swarming local hero 27 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:40.560 hero. So okay, let's fast forward to nineteen sixty six. Okay, 28 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:47.719 all right, imagine that you are a woman. Thank god, you're married 29 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:51.639 to a doctor. I'm not the same woman though. This isn't like this 30 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:55.120 is a new woman. Okay, you're married to a doctor and you see 31 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:02.560 you see some six foot thing. It resembles a giant butterfly. That's the 32 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.520 only way you can describe it. That's the best I can come up with. 33 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:08.000 That's the best you can come up. I'm married to a doctor. 34 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:15.439 You don't have to make the decisions. I'm sorry, this this episode is 35 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:20.560 about sexism, is not about my man at all. We'll get out of 36 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:24.719 bait and switch so on down the road, not the literal oat, but 37 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.599 the road of time. Yeah, I've been telling everyone. The best I 38 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:32.479 can say is it was like a giant butterfly. But you don't exactly report 39 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:37.280 this either, right different. I don't even tell my husband because I've already 40 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.360 taken so much value because I'm a woman in the late sixties in the South, 41 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:49.159 description like nothing. So November twelfth, nineteen sixty six, steckup. 42 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:59.120 You are a grave digger, a female grave digger. Yes, sure, 43 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:02.879 for arguments you are. There are There are five grave diggers in total. 44 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.719 They never said whether they were male or female. I'm serving male. But 45 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:11.080 let's just say, let's let's make the rule of three happen. Here in 46 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.159 my mind, I've already written a musical, and all these women are the 47 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.720 same women. They're same woman, and this is about a woman's journey through 48 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:23.560 West Virginia and the things and the graves and the crypto yes, is that 49 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:27.920 she comes across you. You look up in the in the wee hours of 50 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:33.560 grave digging, you see a brown human being fly out of the trees near 51 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:40.920 the town of Clinton. I mean, am I just being really racist? 52 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.920 Is that what's happening right now? Nope, I'm describing it as best I 53 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.639 can exactly. That's that's the best you can do. It's it's a human 54 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:51.279 being with wings that flew its kind of brownish that flew out of the trees, 55 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:56.279 out of the trees. All right, Who do I tell this too? 56 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.600 Who do you tell it too? I tell you, well, I'm 57 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.000 a grave digger, so I mean, assuming that most people consider to me 58 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:06.040 to be to be drunk full time, or at least enough, probably we 59 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:11.079 were being not only sexist, but occupationist. At this point that is not 60 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:15.959 a word. And everyone knows that painters and grave diggers are drunks. This 61 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:21.759 is fact fact check it, all right. So let's say you don't say 62 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.000 anything about this, or you're going to get around to it. Yeah, 63 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:30.759 well, my quarterly Grave Diggers Review union rules. I get one of those. 64 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:36.040 It's too bad, though, because the next day somebody, somebody one 65 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:44.199 helps you. We got two couples driving out near an abandoned T and T 66 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:47.800 plant, right, Because when you're in West Virginia and you want to take 67 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.000 a lady out on a special ride, we's going out to the TMT plant 68 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:59.480 exactly. That's where they go to neck nice and park. Explosion, puns, 69 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:04.879 explosion and puns. So you're driving, you're driving through this TNT area. 70 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:10.199 You see a tall figure by the road. Sounds sounds familiar to us, 71 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.959 not to them, though. It's a little bit bigger than a man, 72 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:20.199 has some folded wings behind it attached to it. Then it turns around 73 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:26.839 in the headlights and its eyes glow red as if I reflect or on a 74 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:31.360 bike or a car. Now, I'd like to point out right now, 75 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.879 I don't know what I've done, how I react to this just yet, 76 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:40.319 but already we've established a culture of silence and non reporting that is going to 77 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:44.920 severely impact my ability to make this decision because people who have been seeing this 78 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.199 for years and since no one talks, I don't know what to do. 79 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:51.680 People, This is what you should take from this story. You see a 80 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:59.399 cryptod, just shut up, no, no, tell a grave digger to 81 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:05.439 tell your doctor. Husband tells so. So these kids, these these two 82 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:09.720 couples see this thing. Boom. They're like, we're out of here. 83 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:14.560 They take off. They they're they're flying down the road that they're they say 84 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:21.279 they're going at speeds quote better than a hundred miles per hour. Now they 85 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:28.040 turn around and look back, and this winged humanoid thing leaps into the air, 86 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.720 stretches its wings out, and takes off after them in pursuit, not 87 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:35.480 really flapping its wings, just sort of gliding along behind them, but keeping 88 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:41.959 up with them exactly m at speeds maybe better than one hundred miles per hour, 89 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:45.639 which I find fotes bad, but you know at first I would, 90 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.480 but you are in Leondshire country whom it's a good point where that star was 91 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:56.480 born, right born. So they we're doing everything we can to discuss everything, 92 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:05.199 but them off it Y's this is a rich, rich tapestry here. 93 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.480 So what did they do? They break the mold? They run straight to 94 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:16.959 the Sheriff's to the sheriff's office, right, They immediately reported and a deputy 95 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:24.160 goes back out there with them. Now, I'm not sure they were supposed 96 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.240 to be scared out of the wits at this point. If you're that scared, 97 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.920 why would you go back with a guy with a gun. I mean, 98 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.000 so I would. I would. At that point, I was like, 99 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.279 I was scared, and now I'm mad? Could you bring that shotgun? 100 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.799 And let's let's punish this thing for making me scared. PS. I 101 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:43.639 probably missed out on some hot makeouts. They might have cost me some action 102 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.320 and I'm mixed or mad. Those are the stages that you go through. 103 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.559 Yeah, it's like the stages of death. Yeah. So yeah, they 104 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.240 go back out there with with this deputy. They go back to the to 105 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.120 the spot of the deciding. As they passed the spot where they had initially 106 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:09.840 seen this thing, the radio starts emitting this high pitch almost squeal like it 107 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.039 just it just goes Fritzie. Almost sounds like a sped up record. At 108 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.480 this point, the deputy turns off the radio kind of gets freaked down. 109 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:20.320 At that point, They kind of do a little check around, look at 110 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:24.759 looking stuff, don't see anything, so they high tail it back to town 111 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:30.159 and file the report. So what do we have here? What do you 112 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.759 think so far? So far? So far? I don't think we have 113 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:35.519 a lot. I don't think we have a lot so far. I mean 114 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.799 virtually anything at night's eyes will go when you put a headlight in them. 115 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:43.639 That's true. You know, you've got two people whose minds were on other 116 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:48.240 things. I think that so far, four people. Yeah, so far. 117 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.039 I think you've got grounds for a fair amount of skepticism about what's going 118 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:58.240 on. I think at this point we haven't we haven't necessarily reached the critical 119 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:03.679 maths for a genuine goings on. Yeah, agreed, agreed enough for a 120 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:09.440 tiki lookie, but not enough for a goings on. I mean, yeah, 121 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:15.080 I deploy a few rubber neckers to that situation, maybe maybe like three 122 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.039 guys from the Lucky Louis Union. But no, this isn't a going This 123 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.759 isn't the doings just yet. So let's let's set up. Let's set up 124 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.960 what we have around us. Let's let's let's tell you about where we're at 125 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:31.279 here. This is happening in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. Point Pleasant is 126 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:39.240 Point Pleasant is in western Virginia where the Ohio and Canab rivers meet. Okay, 127 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.639 the populations around forty five hundred, maybe a little more back back around 128 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:48.720 that time. It's currently at around forty five hundred. It was settled as 129 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.480 early as seventeen seventy four. I think they had some settlers out there around 130 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:58.440 then. They have a place in town where the Army Corps Engineers built the 131 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:03.559 West Virginia Your Ordinance Works in nineteen forty two, and they did that to 132 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.399 make just a ton of T and T for the war. So they never 133 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.279 let it be said that point Pleasant didn't do their best to fight the Huns 134 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.960 buy war bonds. So they it was stopped in nineteen forty five. They 135 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.279 didn't need it anymore and it was handed back over to the Army Corporate Engineers 136 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:26.000 and they basically pulled out and abandoned most of everything by nineteen forty nine, 137 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:33.120 and it was just left left to rot. Basically just a great big derelict 138 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:39.879 erotic fund park for teams in there in cars. A lot of condoms cement 139 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:50.240 left. This is the sixties. Condoms are for sailors many so so so 140 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.919 this this place just just sort of was left to the elements and all the 141 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:01.039 containment facilities and things like that, the little underground monkers they had to store 142 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.440 this T ANDT things like that. They just left it there, right, 143 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.039 nobody, nobody was worried about it. Hell, they were going out having 144 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:13.120 picnics and and just disposing of all their garbage on the on the on the 145 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.759 side of the hill, so you know, nothing, nothing's going on going 146 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.399 on in terms of environmentalism around them. Just fifteen years before the crying Indian 147 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.840 on the side of the road changed to America Forever. So exactly. So 148 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.720 it was in the eighties, some dudes were fishing around in there, noticed 149 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:35.879 some red, gooey crap bubbling up from from this almost almost Beverly hill Red 150 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:43.559 Gold and Texas track list are They kind of got kind of got kind of 151 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.679 got a little worried about it, went reported it, and turns out the 152 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:54.200 place was fastering with chemicals and all kinds of I know figure. So the 153 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.600 government made this a priority clean up kind of kind of place. It's now 154 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:03.000 the McClintic Wildlife Station where they kind of built a few new ponds. They've 155 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.720 restocked everything with you know, fish and cleaned a bunch of stuff up, 156 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:09.120 a lot of the ruins. You know, we are still there, cement 157 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.279 blocks, buildings, things like that still around in there, but they've actually 158 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.799 got a big sense there's no more bipedal deer, hooray, exactly exactly. 159 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.279 So that's that's where we're at we're that we're in a point pleasant again across 160 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:30.840 the Ohio from Gallipoli, Ohio. Now and now we've got a few sightings 161 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:39.440 of this winged humanoid creature with glowing red eyes. So these kids story got 162 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:45.679 published in the in the local paper and some um, some people started taking 163 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.000 note of this thing. Local boy gets spooked out of hand jobs. That's 164 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:58.480 that's it was under the obituary section. My chances died last time. So 165 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:05.519 they get this one journalist to come down there. Her name is Mary Higher. 166 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:11.960 She coins the name Mothman because of the description from from the kids, 167 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:18.120 saying what the what the mothman looked like? Basically a flying man with a 168 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:24.320 ten foot wingspan, glowing red eyes, gray or brown skin or fur or 169 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.919 something, no arms. The weird thing also about it not really ahead or 170 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:35.399 face. The wings sort of come out of the shoulders and above what should 171 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.759 be ahead, and the eyes are kind of set between where you would think 172 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.120 your shoulders would be. Kind of thing. Sketches that I've seen, you 173 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:48.240 know, in images on the Internet and stuff like that based on these descriptions 174 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:52.639 kind of make it look like the bastard son of an owl and cousin d 175 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.080 yeah. I mean I've screwed it up because all of my fan fiction pictures 176 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.360 have always included a head, So I should have done more research. Sorry, 177 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:01.360 I mean that's why we're doing this. We're trying to get some information 178 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.639 out there. See, I'm learning, we all are so. But even 179 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:11.559 then, Mothman seems like a weird place to go. And it comes from 180 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:16.399 Batman, the Batman comics, because there was a villain called Killer Moth and 181 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.480 I guess she thought this was, you know, the closest thing to that 182 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.759 character, to that description. So she was a comic book check and maybe. 183 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.519 So we've got the we got a name for it now, And of 184 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.919 course the name catches on spreads like, yeah, why don't you name it? 185 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:35.600 It's done, it's it's a it's a thing. Now you can control 186 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:46.000 it. Yeah, so they thought. So. Anyways, we start getting 187 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.559 tons of signings of this thing, just signing this left and ride all all 188 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.639 throughout the next year of this thing scares people just out of their minds. 189 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.399 Now I recall hearing. I remember when I was younger, I read a 190 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:03.320 book called America's Backyard Monsters or something. Oh, I think I've heard of 191 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.840 that, And there was a section about mothman, and one of those sightings, 192 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.799 it was pretty clear about that these people were watching TV and the mothman 193 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.159 was on their front porch staring in the window at them. There were a 194 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.440 couple of accounts of him climbing onto people's front porches looking in through the window. 195 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:23.679 There was one even a woman was visiting a friend, pulled out outside 196 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:29.600 the house, got out of the car and noticed that there was something laying 197 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.120 on the ground that it looks like she had disturbed. Looks like it it 198 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.480 was either sleeping or just you know, kind of chilling out onto the ground. 199 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:41.679 It gets up, stands up. It's the Mothman. She freaks out. 200 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.039 There are accounts that she's holding a baby, which she drops or falls 201 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:49.120 on it or something. Anyways, finally gets her wits, it picks the 202 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:52.519 baby up, runs into the house. The thing follows her up onto the 203 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.200 porch and she gets in the house, shuts the door, and they look 204 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:00.919 over and it's leaning in looking intough the window. Call the authorities. They 205 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:06.880 come out there, can't find it anywhere fuel. It's freaky, but it 206 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.400 never really hurt anybody. No. I had heard, I had I had 207 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.240 read reports that there were secondary effects of of of meeting with the Mothman, 208 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:22.359 especially with eye contact. Yeah, migraine, headaches, m nausea, people 209 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:27.319 having like almost hangover like effects, which I guess you could sort of explain 210 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:33.279 if you were already drunk and then you're on a Mothman. But but people, 211 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:40.720 people complained of problems of physiological problems immediately following a run in with the 212 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:45.920 Mothman, and even the next morning. Accounts of people having conjunctive virus. 213 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.400 Yeah. There, their eyes are are doing a conjunctive virus type thing. 214 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:57.039 So you get pink eye. You're one step closer to becoming a mots than 215 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:03.880 pink eye, followed up by right, so they they some people get this 216 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:11.920 conjunctive vitus. Some people reports sort of almost like sunburn or or or really 217 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:18.440 tan kind of almost radiation like burns on their forearms, things like that too. 218 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.839 There are a couple of reports of that. So yeah, there there 219 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:27.160 there are some some physical um distressed things that that that happen. But again 220 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:33.880 you're getting a ton of reports of sightings and things like that. So who 221 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:37.759 knows who was trying to one up the next person? You know, and 222 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.400 this is not exactly a hop and part of the country. This is I 223 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.240 mean, like I imagine once this starts happening, I mean, this is 224 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.759 good blue collar folk right or rural area, not you know, not minding 225 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.720 their own business, not trying to bother anybody, right when you're not when 226 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.400 you're not sitting in a cafe getting indignamat out of those those MMed hippies up 227 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.960 north. I mean, what's what else is there left to do with your 228 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.480 day but to think about the moth Man, you know, And I imagine 229 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.920 there at that point there was you know, reports of you know, him 230 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.240 being to blame for spotty gone lawns, and you know, the increase in 231 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.720 the tax rate. Oh man, Mothman's gonna have a hard time running for 232 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:22.799 government exactly. He's breaking everything. My car gets worst gas mileage, cheese. 233 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.839 So the worst thing to come out of this. People are wondering, 234 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:32.279 of course, what does what does this mean? Why is this thing here 235 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.640 now? Why is it terrorizing? Is is it terrorizing? Is it trying 236 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:40.319 to communicate? Is it trying to tell us something they started? Well, 237 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:45.160 let's just go to December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven. This is thirteen months 238 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:51.079 after that first run in with the two make out couples. They at this 239 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:52.799 point, I'd quit my job as a grave digger. I have moved to 240 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.359 the big city in Chicago, and I'm just trying to make it as best 241 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.519 I can as a lounge singer. I have now left the story as a 242 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.359 woman in six doing doing a pretty decent job, thank you. But yeah, 243 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.759 this this is uh, this is not a not not not the happiest 244 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.599 part of the story. They there was. There are a couple of bridges 245 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.519 that that connect Point Pleasant to you know, other parts of the world, 246 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:22.279 Ohio being one of them. There's the Silver Bridge that connects Gallipoli to Point 247 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:30.119 Pleasant. It was rush hour, there was a ton of vehicle activity on 248 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:36.079 the bridge, and when whenever you have a ton of traffic, things get 249 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:41.160 clogged up. So there were a bunch of cars just clogging up the Silver 250 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.720 Bridge, and the night of the fifteenth, it just it got to be 251 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.720 too much for the bridge and one of the eye beings snapped and the bridge 252 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:55.680 collapses and takes down everything on on the bridge, which ends up killing forty 253 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:59.039 six people. It was it was, by all accounts, just you know, 254 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:03.599 a horrendous track. And they found out later after they you know, 255 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:07.119 got everything up from the river and stuff. They found that it just it 256 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:12.359 came from a single hairline fracture in one of the ibing pins. And it 257 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:18.799 was something that they people had come into to make sure the bridge was up 258 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:21.680 to code, you know, check things out, mixture that everything, it 259 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:26.640 was structurally sound, but this fracture was just so so small it was almost 260 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.039 invisible, Like there was hardly any way they could have really caught this. 261 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:34.039 Yeah, and you get cold temperatures, it's December, metals more inclined to 262 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:41.440 fracture than bend. The other thing is the bridge was built when Model ts 263 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:48.039 were were being built. It was built with those for the foot traffic and 264 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.480 the and the wheel traffic on there. And by the sixties cars were just 265 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.039 a steel boat on wheels at that time. So I almost wonder what the 266 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.880 average difference even between now and the sixties in way I mean that that was 267 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.400 that's that was the boat card days. Those are the biggest cars ever. 268 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:10.359 Times. It's bridges are probably breathing aside of relief today because it's all fiber 269 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:15.319 wized. But like it's funny and you got to wonder if if some some 270 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.839 of the inspections were that are going on today are kind of glossing over some 271 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:23.200 stuff because it's like, well they're handling all this all this weight now or 272 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.880 all these cars now, blah blah blah. But it's like, well, 273 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.759 you know there's still there. The cars are lighter now, but still need 274 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.200 to do you right. Well, they have that thing in Missouri, that 275 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:40.200 bridge failing that too long ago, and that was Andrew Minnesota was that it 276 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:45.039 was a state that started with M. So that is outside of what we 277 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.480 do here. You have to listen to um Bridge Inspection podcast to find that 278 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:57.279 out the news or the news, neither of which will be so yeah. 279 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:03.960 I mean the the bridge collapse basically started a government inspection program to make sure 280 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:10.119 you know, our if structure was was intact, which is going swimmingly these 281 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.440 days? You guys, yeah, really is really on the ball. But 282 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:18.480 anyway, is that a pun really on the ball? Swimmingly? Oh, 283 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:25.640 swimmingly? Sudden people. It wasn't long after those people started drawing a correlation 284 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:30.799 between the Mothman sightings and the Silver Bridge collapse, because no more sightings after 285 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:37.000 the fifteenth See Now that that fascinates me because I also saw that I also 286 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.079 saw that in the in the doing, my my personal resurch under this stuntect. 287 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.839 But I drew the exact opposite conclusion. I mean, I would think 288 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.759 that it would be more inclined to say, oh, yeah, no, 289 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.359 there's this thing, and then we saw a ton of mothman after that thing, 290 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:52.559 you know, like he was around in the area. You know, 291 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.839 this was the Mothman times. I feel like after the bridge, you know, 292 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.920 any community that has something traumatic and awful happen to it, you've got 293 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.960 better things on your mind. What used to be a fun thing to discuss, 294 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:08.720 you know, suddenly now people are dealing with very real loss, very 295 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:11.920 real issues, even if they didn't lose anyone their neighbor, did you know. 296 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:18.440 I think that that just locks that community down and and maybe makes people 297 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.240 less inclined. Now, maybe there was still Mothman sightings, but in that 298 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.359 right, in that environment, do you really you know, when people are 299 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.920 going to funerals and trying to arrange for all these things, you really say, 300 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:36.240 oh, I just saw the flying Mothman, probably right right, So 301 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:37.880 I need a great point, you know, and I don't. I don't 302 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:41.839 necessarily think that that that confirms or denies it, and I've read, uh, 303 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:44.839 you know, and just in the things that I've read about I've read 304 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:48.799 a book or two about it that people considered the Mothman as a harbinger, 305 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.960 and people have even tied him into some Native American legends yea, and in 306 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.119 other parts of the world as well. Um that that this Mothman, this 307 00:24:56.119 --> 00:25:03.160 this dark figure is a harban of ill omens of things. Yeah, exactly, 308 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.559 of disaster, of bad things coming. So is that is that exactly 309 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:08.680 what was happening here? Do you think? I mean, I that's a 310 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.839 that's a great point. I think that, I mean, with you, 311 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.519 with you saying that, I just picture like people, people who are obviously 312 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:22.519 grieving and just stricken with with you know, bereavement, and then the Mothman's 313 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.480 like, it's horrible to say, this is what I'm picturing. The Mothman's 314 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:29.039 peeking into the window, He's like, guys, you know, I'm Mothman 315 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.079 here, and then like he's just turning around. He's hunching his wing shoulders 316 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.559 and he's like the lonely man. Thing starts. The piano music from the 317 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:45.279 hall starts, and he just has like down the road he choked. Yeah, 318 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.160 I'm not trying to make fun of anything. I'm just saying that's that's 319 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.359 with you saying that point. It's like maybe the Mothman's like, well, 320 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:52.880 you know, I'm no longer the fad here, so I'm out of town. 321 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:57.839 Yeah. I don't know if that was a mass uh not mass hysteria, 322 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:02.680 but just a thing that people were doing. And I think that there 323 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.599 are plenty of reasonable I mean, I don't think any of them are locked 324 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:11.960 down, but reasonable explanations. Large water fowl, for example, hearing's large 325 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:18.480 birds, especially in an area that has a toxic ecology. Birds are exceedingly 326 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.559 sensitive to that, to those sort of environments. This is also the silent 327 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.319 springtimes. You know, this is ddteeth and eggshells, and this is before 328 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.160 those things get really locked down. You know. Obviously, I guess it 329 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.599 would be a reach for me to blame DDT, But the only thing I 330 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.000 will ever blame DDT for is the near eradication of malaria. It was a 331 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:44.200 magnificent chemical, but that's a discussion for a future episode. But no, 332 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.160 I you know it was it was a toxic environment. This thing was seen 333 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.799 primarily in the region of and it did expand after that. But I think 334 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:55.880 that you could psychologically explain that. I don't think it's unreasonable to say this 335 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:02.160 was a large bird, perhaps somewhat deformed, maybe of an unusual coloring for 336 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.319 the species. Yeah, you know, there there are they They got some 337 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:10.000 experts down there to try and explain this scientifically. You know, they don't 338 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.599 want they don't want to hear anything about monsters and fandoms and all that junk. 339 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:18.599 They want to hear about signs from somebody who went to college. Right, 340 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:25.440 So we're gonna put aside our usual prejudice against your learning because because we 341 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:30.279 need you. They got somebody down there who explained this could be a large 342 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:37.519 sandhill crane. Sandhill cranes have a red coloring on their head right between their 343 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.519 eyes. Kind of thing could be who knows, you know, if if 344 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.799 it's hit you know, with the with the light, it could give off 345 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:49.720 some kind of glowing redness to it. But the thing about that that I 346 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:55.000 think, the I mean, the mutation thing is is great. That's that's 347 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.359 one of the things. You know, who who knows what's going on in 348 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.480 that swamp with the TNT because it's primarily seen in the T and T area 349 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:07.079 there. It could could be some kind of mutation of something, because it's, 350 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.079 like I said, some people describing it, it's it's kind of looking 351 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.119 like an owl, these cranes that grow to six feet, you know, 352 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.519 at sometimes you know the bigger species, you know, yeah, kind the 353 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:23.640 examples, yeah, the examples of the alpha's But who knows, man the 354 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.359 Santil crane. When I see pictures of it, it's got a long neck 355 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:33.920 still, and I just there were very few reports of it having a neck 356 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:40.200 at all. That's the only thing that that kind of snags that argument on 357 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.839 to me. Anyway, you know, there are a lot of other interesting 358 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:48.240 things. I think what bolster is the case for a genuine parent paranormal event 359 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:55.240 are actually not necessarily all the direct observations, but the indirect ones. The 360 00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.960 static on the radio that wasn't an isolated thing that happened in several places. 361 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.359 People's TVs and a lot of those discussions about people seeing the Mohman on their 362 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.519 porch, they first their TV went out. I mean, again, this 363 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.759 is the sixties, this is a very nuclear family time. People are glued 364 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:14.440 to that RIFO. The TV goes out, their attention diverts and that's when 365 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.319 they noticed this thing on the porch, right, And I in a lot 366 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.279 of the things that a lot of the reports that I've read, that's kind 367 00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.720 of the flow of it, right, So there is some sort of em 368 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.839 thing that's happening, not necessarily. What's interesting is that, especially in the 369 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:33.319 case of the police radio, seems to be a semi permanent effect, like 370 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.640 this thing can affect an area and leave the area, and that effect stays. 371 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:44.240 So that's interesting. The secondary effects on people's physiologies, that's a really 372 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.400 interesting thing, and that could be explained in a number of ways. And 373 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.680 also there was an interesting crossover the other paranormal phenomena, the involvement of men 374 00:29:52.680 --> 00:30:00.759 in black. There's several documented cases of these black suited individuals in the nondescript 375 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:06.599 sedans, interviewing and in some cases intimidating witnesses of it. You know, 376 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:11.079 you get you're giving a lot of things coming together here that don't necessarily all 377 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.079 add up to a Sandhill crane problem. That's true, and that all stems 378 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:19.079 kind of from the research of John Keel, who was a journalist and a 379 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:26.720 ufologist who wrote the Mothman Prophecies in nineteen seventy five, which is an account 380 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:33.240 of his investigation of the Mothman, and according to him, he found that 381 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:38.400 not only were these mothman sightings happening, but there were also numerous UFO sightings 382 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.480 that were going on at this time as well. UFOs and aerial lights, 383 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.440 all kinds of phenomenon that we're going on to people's homes. The television systs 384 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.960 like you said that were burning out, the phones were ringing it at all 385 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.359 times of the night and there'd be nobody on the other line. I mean, 386 00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.599 this is this is poltergeist kind of crap. Yeah, And it's an 387 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.839 important to point out that, especially at this time, late sixties, a 388 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.519 ringing phone is is actually a weird thing because this was the old operator time. 389 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:10.000 This is where you would speak to someone and say, I'd like klondike 390 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:11.519 two four seventh places. Are they still doing it? I think so. 391 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:18.759 I don't know. I'm I believe so. But yeah, is what you 392 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:25.920 just said it all true? I do not know. I'll believe it sure, 393 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:30.839 but yeah, I mean there there's a lot there are There are a 394 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:36.240 lot of things that are that are happening at this time that um that point 395 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:41.319 to to something something somewhat larger. Yeah, and and perhaps I mean, 396 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.680 and I guess to swing the pendulum back again towards them more mundane. You 397 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:52.720 have an Army Corps of Engineers site that clearly wasn't cleaned up to spec words 398 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.319 getting out. Yeah, there's gonna be some FEDS from some FEDS there that 399 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.039 are probably involved in that. Why they would choose to pursue a mothman approach, 400 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.200 I don't know, but maybe maybe they were they had other things that 401 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:08.920 they were doing there. I can it's conceivable that there would be like federal 402 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:16.440 agents or inspectors converging on this area, you know, pings exactly. They're 403 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:22.240 one of the freakiest things that came out of John Keel's accounts. An investigation 404 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.039 was the story of Woodrow Darrenburger and injured cold. Yes, this this was 405 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:32.000 This is some freaky stuff. This was in also in sixty six, actually, 406 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.720 right around the time the Mothman's sightings started, or just before they started, 407 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.039 at least, there was a man named Woodrow Darrenberger who was driving home 408 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:46.400 after after work one day. This this weird craft zooms past his truck and 409 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.480 stops in the road in front of him. Causing him to stop, and 410 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:55.640 a tall man gets out, walks over to the truck. He has this 411 00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:01.240 incredibly tanned skin slipped back dark air. He's got this dark outfit made of 412 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:07.079 some kind of glistening green material. And the most unnerving part is he's got 413 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.720 this grin on his face, this just weird grin. This Woodrow Darrenburger says 414 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:19.599 that this man started communicating with him telepathically, said he could understand him, 415 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.279 his playing his day. His mouth never moved from that weird grin. Told 416 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.680 him his name was Injured Cold and said he asked him a few weird questions 417 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.559 things like that. And then he tells Woodrow that he's gonna he's gonna visit 418 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.920 him again on you know, on down the road somewhere the road of time 419 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.319 again and then gets back in his craft and zooms off. And Darren Burger 420 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:50.640 did come in contact with Injured Cold again, according to his accounts, quite 421 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.000 a few times. I think he even ended up writing a book about it. 422 00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:58.720 And it got a little bit much for the family, plus an extra 423 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:06.039 murderal fur but kind of kind of the family fell apart and and Darren Burger, 424 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.000 I don't know that it's kind of spotted in what ended up happened to 425 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:14.199 him in the end. But yeah, there's there's some weird, weird stuff 426 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.199 with that. Apparently he wrote a book from it, Like I said, 427 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:21.639 that's kind of hard to find these days. And it's based on the account 428 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:27.119 of his relationship with Injured Cold and yeah, and there was and that was 429 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.960 a multi year up. Yeah. Yeah, that wasn't just like a once 430 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.480 or twice thing. There was a regular and I believe he was also getting 431 00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:39.559 he was got the most of the Men in Black interaction as a result of 432 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:45.159 his interaction with Hindered Cold. Yeah, and so that was one of the 433 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:50.039 freaky things that when freakyst from from Keel's work. So and the other thing 434 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:54.000 with with John Keeled you got to wonder where how much how much he's playing 435 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:59.719 some of the stuff up, you know, coming from a UFOL just background 436 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:04.159 that that and wanting and getting a book written out of it kind of stuff. 437 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.480 I mean, you hear that today and it's like, well, you're 438 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.519 kind of you're kind of you know, aggrandizing things. So it's to promote 439 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.519 some of your own I think it's it's got to be exceedingly difficult to have 440 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:21.519 something like this happening in a small town because I mean, as long as 441 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.639 you keep asking people, they'll keep telling you things. Yeah, even long 442 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:29.159 after they've exhausted all the things that they actually knew. So I mean, 443 00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.360 I think there's a difficulty in doing a lot of investigation in a small town 444 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.360 setting like that because people like to be asked questions, people like to be 445 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:43.559 interviewed or film. Yeah, so it's a hard thing to sift just what 446 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.159 is the truth, you know, get the information out of it without digging 447 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.599 so much that people are just inventing things because they're used to having someone care 448 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:53.920 and seeing it in print. And oh, if there's a book in the 449 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.559 works, you know, I want to make sure there's a chapter about all 450 00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.159 the crazy experiences I've had true And that's and that's a hard thing to separate. 451 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.599 And I'm certainly not saying that anyone there was or wasn't lying, but 452 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.519 but I know if I were in that situation, that would be a hard 453 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.079 call to make. You have to be careful about how you approach something like 454 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.880 that because you do end up with I'm sure much more misinformation than true facts. 455 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:21.360 And speaking of that, when in doing research for this and looking online 456 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.639 and a bunch of stuff things like that. There is just a ton of 457 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:35.800 content about supposed Mothman or sightings or stories or that's just complete crap. Oh 458 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.440 absolutely, there is so much just crap about Mothman out there. I mean, 459 00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:45.440 go on YouTube type in moth Man and just have yourself a day of 460 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:51.480 what But it's crap. It's wretched. But and that's a hard thing because 461 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.840 the Mothman is a kind of nebulous concept or idea. You know. It 462 00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:00.480 was it was seen for a very finite amount of time um in a very 463 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:06.280 remote area, and it has all these I don't know abilities, these weird 464 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.360 effects associated with it that that make it easy to be like, oh was 465 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.079 that I don't know, Mothman. I mean, in the Southwest, everything 466 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.119 gets blamed on the cheopicabra everything, you know, And if you're in West 467 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:22.639 Virginian, Mothman did it? You know, mon, It's a it's a 468 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.199 it's a tough thing. And I mean some of the things that I've read 469 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:29.719 have you know, theorized that the one of the things I've read had tied 470 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.800 everything up into one very thorough package. Oh yeah, yeah, And I 471 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.559 mean this definitely files far more under fan fiction than than the results of deep 472 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:45.119 investigation. But the theory was that the Mothman and others of his ilk are 473 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.880 are our pan dimensional travelers. They see things, say in a fifth spatial 474 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.360 dimension. It makes them very easy for them to see in the future in 475 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.920 the past, and they do their best to warn us of things that are 476 00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.760 coming, but they can't necessarily communicate with us that well, um, and 477 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.760 we we for lack of it, would wither in their presence. You know, 478 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.000 we get hives and the we get pink Guy from them, right. 479 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:12.920 Um, you know, these things happen, and then you have the secondary 480 00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:19.000 entity entities like Injured Cold, who are also tracking the Mothman entities. I'm 481 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.280 trying to trying to determine what it is they're doing. Uh, you know, 482 00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:27.320 like I said, this files farm under our you know, fan fiction, 483 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.719 trying to trying to stitch it all into one narrative time thing together to 484 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:37.199 make the tapestries become one large blanket of it. And it's almost frustrating in 485 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.400 that they're both very interesting stories, very interesting um experiences people have had between 486 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.039 Injured Cold and the Mothman, and it's it's almost a tragedy that they're linked 487 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:51.360 at all. Yeah, it's it's that link that makes them both suffer credibility, 488 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.079 you know, all of that. Yeah. Really, I mean it's 489 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:59.559 almost like they were like, oh, Mothman's here. I remember the UFOs 490 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:09.199 like yeah, exactly, yeah, everyone, we'll save here here from Arizona, 491 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.039 get out of here. It's it is, it's a hard thing in 492 00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.159 it. I guess it gets the ball rolling. And there's a part of 493 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.719 me that thinks that I'm almost surprised that to a degree that maybe, um, 494 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:27.480 there wasn't more sightings after the bridge incident. Yeah. The weird thing 495 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.599 is there there are a few reports out there that have said that that the 496 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:37.519 Mothman's been cited before major disasters that have happened. I've even found, um, 497 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:43.599 some some sources that that say Mothman was cited even back the late eighteen 498 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:49.280 hundreds, the early nineteen hundreds in Russia. UH nineteen fifties, was seen 499 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:54.719 in Brazil and Japan. Even Houston had had a Mothman or a Batman's sort 500 00:39:54.760 --> 00:40:00.840 of entity, and Nebraska had one. UH and even as as recent as 501 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.800 two thousand and four in good old Guadalupe, Mexico, something that they actually 502 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:12.039 didn't blame the Chewo Picabrah didn't blame on the Chewo Picabray. There was an 503 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:17.880 officer of the law down there who was patrolling and sees this this shapeless black 504 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.679 mass kind of falling and twisting out of the sky lands on the ground. 505 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.800 It's it's a woman, dark hair. And he stops and it is kind 506 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.920 of freaked out, starts back in the car up and apparently the thing just 507 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.199 in the in a matter of moments is just on his windshield, looking at 508 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:43.719 him with lidless eyes and just completely black over the eyes where the white, 509 00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.599 where the pupil, everything is black. And he faints and when he wakes 510 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.440 up, it's gone. This is and they're saying, oh, muff Man, 511 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.800 well that's the first that's the first time we've heard it's a woman that 512 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:58.039 sounds like a frigging vampire, right, Yeah, I mean, I guess, 513 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.519 I guess if you gotta put it, if you to put it in 514 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.440 a bucket, I guess, mothman, but I would put it in the 515 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.559 vampire bucket. I don't know, man, That that just any number of 516 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.000 weird CRYPTI bucket. Yeah, that one's filed under that and it is it's 517 00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:14.679 hard when you have something like that that's so vague, but you do have 518 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.440 a lot of those those like you said, like from around the world. 519 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.440 I know, there's a lot of Native American references to it. And in 520 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.719 my research I also saw that there was a neat historical uh you know, 521 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:29.039 we talked about how how audit is that you had this Mothman and it intersects 522 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.119 with the men in black reference that are in early men in black reference, 523 00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.280 maybe the earliest I don't know, historically. There was some further tie ins 524 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.000 between that because the colloquially the devil used to be referred to as the black 525 00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:44.079 man or you know, but now they say like things like old scratch. 526 00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.599 But in old literature and things like that, things would would go wrong and 527 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.159 people would say, well, I saw the black man around because he was 528 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.239 dressed in yeah, yeah, dressed in yeah. Not not an African American 529 00:41:55.239 --> 00:42:01.000 man, like a man dressed in black shadowed face, very very difficult to 530 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.480 see and make out, um, but yeah, always dressed in black clothes. 531 00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:10.159 And so there was a theory that that perhaps even in this Mothman scenario, 532 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:16.079 that when people were seeing as MBS was sort of a reflection of the 533 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.039 Mothman, that the Mothman and the historical old men in black that were seen 534 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.559 in some other historical accounts were actually still the same entity. Interesting, um, 535 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:30.360 I mean in the in the case of this and the injured cold, 536 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.239 I mean, these guys actually showed up a door at doors and ring doorbells 537 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.800 and said threatening things. So maybe not so much, but it was an 538 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.760 interesting historical tie in between the two. Yeah, yeah, that's that's weird. 539 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:45.800 And there were other accounts you know of Oh, it was seen before 540 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.480 the hurricane in Galveston, it was seen before nine to eleven, you know, 541 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.119 the attacks on the towers, it was seen before Japan, you know 542 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:58.079 the tsunami. I don't know. I of course, in this day and 543 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:02.679 age, that's it just it probably is not going to get too much too 544 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.559 much play in in any kind of real news setting, unfortunately, you know. 545 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.800 And and with the exception of this happening point pleasant, you never ever 546 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.559 hear about it, these reports before the cataclysm, before the grand terrible thing 547 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.280 happens. It's always after the fact. Oh well, you know, a 548 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.199 long time after the fact, usually too right, right, you know. 549 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:29.599 And and again after the shock of it after people have put their lives together 550 00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.039 and they're trying to make some sense of it. Oh, I thought I 551 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:36.440 could see something weird before. You know, there's there's that that that post, 552 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.320 you know, cataclysm logic that kind of feels like it maybe psychologically have 553 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:45.519 to fill that in with something or so so it might make more sense than 554 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.239 it actually probably should, right which which again you know and say say following 555 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.840 that theory that they're these pan dimensional bell weathers that try to try to help 556 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.679 us, they're terrible at it. They're just awful at the same time to 557 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.480 give it up, we're kind of tear blood of two like instead of instead 558 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:07.599 of somebody sticking around just sticking around being like, whoa, let me not 559 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.800 point a gun at it and let me not run in the opposite direction. 560 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.440 Let's see what happens. Maybe you got maybe you got a buddy in the 561 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.840 woods with a gun on it, just in case, But why don't you 562 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.000 go up to the thing and see what it's about. A lot of people 563 00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.880 said that they felt like it was trying to communicate, and of course it's 564 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.840 it's only given off. You know, these these high pitched mousey sounds or 565 00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.760 sounding like a squeaky loose fan belt or something. But it's like, who 566 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:38.960 know, you can? You can make something out of it. You can 567 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:45.440 make heads or tails somewhere or another Nighttime figures, Nighttime country Road six foot 568 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.760 creature with a ten foot wingspan and glowing red eyes. I'm gonna go with 569 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.400 a popular choice. I'm gonna run and if I have a gun, I'm 570 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:58.639 sh shooting it if it if it if it seems threatening, I mean, 571 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:04.119 of course, if if it's if it's just walking to the vehicle and all 572 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.440 it's got going on is glowing eyes. Are you serious? If all it 573 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:13.000 has is a hulking frame and glowing eyes, if that's all it's bringing to 574 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:17.960 the table, six seven foot is not two hulking six to seven would be 575 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.920 it would be like it'd be like, hey man, you would go play 576 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:29.039 basketball next week where you know we need a center. I love this book, 577 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.000 We host this podcast, and if this happened to us, it still 578 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.920 wouldn't get to communicate its message because we would be in the car arguing with 579 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.519 each other. You're trying to pull a gun out of my hands. Let's 580 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:45.920 just see what it has to say. You stay in the cart to have 581 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.480 the gun ready. I mean, it's gonna be too fast anyway. If 582 00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.679 if, if it doesn't work, whatever, but at least a tribe and 583 00:45:53.079 --> 00:46:00.679 I will make sure that your tombstone says killed by moth Man and idiocy. 584 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.239 We'll leave that out. We'll leave that out. Moth Man, you extended 585 00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.000 the olive branch and it expended its pan dimensional. I don't know ordinance right 586 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:13.360 death grip. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. If if people were 587 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.079 telling me it feels like it's trying to communicate and all anybody was doing was 588 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.159 either running or trying to kill it, I think I would stop. This 589 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:22.960 would have to be in the middle of it. If I were one of 590 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:27.440 the first ones, I'm sure I would probably be scared. Crack list. 591 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.119 But I mean, like a drunken hobo on the CTA at two in the 592 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:37.000 morning is trying to communicate like it's not you know, there's there's plenty of 593 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.639 things that are trying to communicate that still have no interest in your continued function 594 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.719 as a person. Does the smot does the Mothman smell like a hobo on 595 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.480 the CTA? People's eyes are burning? I don't know. I mean, 596 00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.800 I mean, I mean we're edging into skun Cape territory. But but no, 597 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.880 I mean, but you're right. See, like just this exact thing 598 00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.079 is why. This is why as a species we can't have nice things. 599 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.480 That's true. Oh man, Well okay, so that's what we've decided. 600 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:13.039 If if we ever run it too the Mochman, we're just gonna we're gonna 601 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.760 miss our chance at anything because we're arguing about no, no, no, 602 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.760 no no. I think we've had the argument, and we've determined that I 603 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:24.559 will set up a defensive perimeter while you can go forth and extend the hand 604 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:30.039 of of of human friendship. Okay, I will write you a glowing eulogy. 605 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.920 I will explain to your family that you died trying to forward our advancement 606 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.480 as a civilization, as a species. I was too busy pumping buckshot into 607 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.760 it. Yeah, probably doesn't kill it. Probably not. We're probably both 608 00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.400 dead here. If it's probably, if it's pandimensional, it'll it'll just the 609 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.480 bullets passed through it. It'll come, it'll grab you out. It'll be 610 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.480 like when I think the mart the Maringie and the second I don't even know 611 00:47:54.519 --> 00:48:00.280 what, never mind the Phalanges it'll it'll it'll get you. It'll get it'll 612 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.960 get you. So your tombstone killed by Mothman, my tombstone, and with 613 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.079 his last breath to cast defiance in the eye of his oppressor, did he 614 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:13.000 unload his twelfth gage. That's going to cost a pretty penny to put all 615 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:17.199 that. I ain't paid for it. I'm dead. Speaking of last words, 616 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:22.360 and there some of this stems from an ancient Native American curse from one 617 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.000 of the Shawnee warriors that you know was around Point Pleasant at the time was 618 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:32.320 being settled. Actually was. He came to the fort at Point Pleasant in 619 00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.000 seventeen seventy seven to negotiate peace, and some of the seventeen hundred we were 620 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.800 so good at negotiating with Native Americans at that time. One of the settlers, 621 00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.840 in a in a completely different situation, was was killed by Native Americans, 622 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:52.280 and in a blind, drunken rage, some of the settlers murder this 623 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:57.239 uh this war, this Shawnee warrior named Chief Cornstalk. They murder him and 624 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.239 they shoot him up. And there's legend that says, in his last breath 625 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:05.000 he puts a curse on Point Pleasant for next two hundred years you know this 626 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:09.639 will be and and a lot of people like like drawing that to get some 627 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:15.360 kind of inspiration or explanation. It's it's not a parent of all event if 628 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:21.679 you cannot get a Native American burial ground or curse shoehorned in there somewhere. 629 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.639 Stephen King realized that at an early age, right, and and he looked 630 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:30.039 out for him. Yeah, he's he's getting the bands paid. All right, 631 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.760 That's that's Mothman. Yeah, we just man, that's that's how the 632 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.039 Mothman gets yet. That's how that's how it works. If you see a 633 00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.840 mothman, do the American thing and either try and talk to it or shoot 634 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:46.079 it. And you know. Coming up in September is the tenth year Mothman 635 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:51.239 Festival in Point Pleasant. Point Pleasant, I think it's starts September fifteenth, 636 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.519 So if you find yourself in West Virginia, check it out. I'm sure 637 00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:00.519 that they'll have a Mothman booth and one Mothman booth and the no, no, 638 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.239 they'll have like a booth. This is how I see it. It's 639 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.159 a booth where a guy just blasts you with pepper spray so you got like 640 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.400 swollen red eyes. And you get a picture tang and says I was kicking 641 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:17.719 it with the mommn. Oh god, they have they have a Mothman museum 642 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:21.639 there too. Yeah, and you can get oh my god, injured cold 643 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.159 drinks. Oh I did it. That's one of my puns. Yeah, 644 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:36.280 that is a punt. We just snuck. We snuck this section in there. 645 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.119 I didn't mean to jump the that's right, we're there, We're there. 646 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:46.400 Injured cold drinks. Yeah. I have a I have a counterculture punk 647 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:51.239 shop who called the golf Man. Oh. I like that. I like 648 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.960 that at punk rock stuff, all right. I also I have a collectible 649 00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:02.280 store for people who are into the paranormal and star wars called Monlothman. And 650 00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.559 please, if that didn't make sense, don't investigate it. If it did, 651 00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.360 high fives to you, you're great. Please send us an email saying 652 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.239 I got it. I'm on the executive list of listeners. But if you 653 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.400 didn't get it, let it go. It's just gonna piss you off more 654 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.880 once you do the research. It's true. And my final pun is it's 655 00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:24.519 actually a real estate business called the Mothman Properties. Oh nice, I like 656 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:31.599 that too. Deal so good. Your eyes will bleed. I gotta got 657 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:38.239 a splitting headache from all these savings. And it just be a picture of 658 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:42.559 like you and the real estate asient with glowing guys looking in the window of 659 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:59.760 a home. Yea terrified family. Look how nice the kitchen is a great 660 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:09.800 idea. That's the best pun, all right. So so we actually have 661 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.320 a pun from one of our listeners listener puns. Let's play the listener pun 662 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:30.400 sound right now? Pretty pretty cool sound? Uh yeah, you made that 663 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.199 one up on the fly, I think right, you know what, it 664 00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:37.320 sounded like. It sounded like it took you a really long time to come 665 00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.800 up with a listener pun. Sound. This pun comes to us from a 666 00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:46.960 listener named Annie, and Annie's pun for out the Alista Crowley episode was Alistair 667 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:53.199 Crowley's mattress store deal so good they'll drive you mad. See. I like 668 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:59.000 that because not only doesn't incorporate madness, but Alister Crowley needed a lot of 669 00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:07.559 mattresses and life. Oh man, he deld in volume. That's uh, 670 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:12.679 that's great. Thank you Annie for for submitting that the rest of you guys 671 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.280 get on the ball. Yeah, and I don't I mean am I am? 672 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:16.840 I? Am I wrong? Here? But there was a tone to 673 00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:22.440 that pun. Annie sounded pretty hot. Oh that's right, she uh. 674 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:24.559 I mean, I mean there's there's a cold in here, and there's three 675 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:29.039 exclamation points. I mean, that's right. You don't punctuate like that unless 676 00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.559 you are very attractive. That's true. That's true. So so Annie, 677 00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:37.119 keep them coming, and hopefully we didn't scare you away with her creepy the 678 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.599 old man. I thought I was positively reinforcing participation. But you know what 679 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:51.119 they call that sexual harassment these days. Oh, in the thirties. We're 680 00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.760 so terrible. Anyways, thanks, thank you though, thank you for sending 681 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.679 the rest of you guys. Get get some puns to us. That'll be 682 00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:01.480 great. Yeah. I put the bar pretty little with mon muff, so 683 00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:07.840 kick yeah, please kick my ass. But yeah, you can. You 684 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.760 can send us a pun. We've got a nice little handy Danny form on 685 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.760 the website. Now. You can go to blurry photos dot org and check 686 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.440 out that form has a little drop down. Then you just select a pun, 687 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.480 shoot it in there and clicks in. Yeah, it'll it'll come right 688 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:24.880 to us, I hope. And I'll tell you what. It would be 689 00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:30.440 a shame if the extent of our interaction was just you sending us puns and 690 00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:32.440 we saying them. So please, you got an idea for a show you'd 691 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:37.239 like to hear us blather about. We'll blather that show, dude, We'll 692 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:43.480 blather some. We'll blathering blatherskie right, nice gizmo duck, well played, 693 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.440 So yeah, we if you want to, you want to leave some comments 694 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:52.119 feedback, tell us what a bunch of jackasses we are. If you have 695 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.480 hot we sound? How hot we sound? That that one would be appreciated. 696 00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.760 Stories of your own. Hey, if you if you've had bleed conjunctify 697 00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:05.320 his eyes from a mothman encounter, from a weird sex encounter, please please 698 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:12.840 keep the TNT area to yourself. And don't don't email us saying I'll tell 699 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.320 you about my moth man who I put in a little rubber dome every night. 700 00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:22.239 Don't email. Don't do it. Flora just said, I don't know 701 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:28.679 what it was, but don't do it. I don't know, and do 702 00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.119 whatever you want. At this point, there's no such thing as a bad 703 00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:36.280 email. We'll let you know when people start sending as things we don't want 704 00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.199 that. That's true. That's true. It's a that's a great point as 705 00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:45.239 well. So anyways, so that's it for this episode of of Blurry Photos. 706 00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:50.320 Stecco, you got anything else dead before we go? Uh No, 707 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.679 I don't. I feel like there's no base that we left untouched, no 708 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.639 stone unturned, no nice. Yeah, that's how the thorough feels. That's 709 00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:02.360 what we will sleep well tonight, blowing red eyes, not kind of sleep 710 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.599 for three days. I am David Florida, and I have Dave Stecko, 711 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:42.239 and we will talk to you next step. Yeah,