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Made Destan John a pace sunny sun
lord on. I hadasion my nice so

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Nat. Hello, everybody, welcome
to f cool for crying out loud.

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I am here. It's Friday with
Caylan, the Handsome Kaylan and Julie Kayse

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yay, Hi guys, I love
I love this. This is so fun.

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I got so excited to do this. Obviously missing Lynette. Wish we

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could all power out together. I
know, I'm very happy to be here.

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Lynette is on a trip. Where's
she Florida? Right? Larida?

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Yeah, she went to Florida.
Good for her. And I was originally

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asking you to come last week,
but you couldn't because you were getting ready

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to go on a trip yep,
which I would like to talk about in

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one in one minute. But then
you said I could come next week would

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be easier, And then I was
like, well that's a perfect because we

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were going to run a best of
But now look now you guys are getting

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a regular show. You're getting the
best of the best. Yeah, the

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best of you are backed by popular
demand, is what we're saying. But

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you know who else is popular is
our our friends? Alicia asked Alante and

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Ashley, you're so Chic and scher
Bear and do you want to Hershey Bar

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and Kelly laid and Amy r Kelly's, Katie's rolling on e and not Anna

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Faris and Aaron Lando and Nikki call
your girl. And Leslie is out accosting

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people. I saw her in front
of seven to eleven all the way in

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Encino. Good always an Encino.
Yeah, he likes it there. Yeah.

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And you know who else is running
around Encino is Missy and Gabby,

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you know, on the streets,
on the mean streets of Encino. Uh.

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And then the other Alicia, Uh
not Alicia? What am I talking

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about? The coffer Leslie with the
coughing all the time because of the freaking

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COVID. Jacob is so growley,
and Elizabeth Williamson had like I think she's

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up to like eight or nine kids
now. I think she got a new

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one during the week. And Athena, we love your dancing Polly, We

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love your pancakes, Rita, we
love your your Bassett hound face. Yeah,

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compliment because baas that hounds are so
cute, so cute, and uh

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ishan pre i rep i open so
cute. Kelly Brandt is not your aunt,

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but she will take you to hip
hop class. Stephanie Stinker Rinker,

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Christa gets strapped, Sandra, it's
not easy being green, Jennifer, get

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up, Aaron, don't be a
dirty Sanchez, Sarah Stefanos. She's our

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Paisano and that's it. Okay.
Speaking of shout outs, can I do

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a little shout out? Yeah,
of course to some folks on the for

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crying out loud, reel it in
page. Okay. So I'm gonna miss

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some people because I can't find the
old one. But if I find it,

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so Amy Justice Katz posted such a
sweet thing about my dad and listening

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to him on the radio and just
the nostalgia brings. And then Valerie Fenwick

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chimes and yeah, say something hits
it out of the park, Carrie Wentz,

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Lindsay, Crystal Glass, Christopher let's
see. Yeah, anyway, they

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had such nice things to say.
Linda Gilligan not to be confused with Gilligan's

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Island. I don't think she might
be from that island, but I don't

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know gg Field, Samantha Carter.
I haven't even read Samantha Carter's or Darlene

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Hirsh's yet, as I'm sitting here
flipping through this but so just sweet that

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people, you know, like still
listen to my dad's show and talk about

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it and just like I freaking love
it. And then yeah, I can't

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find There was another post earlier about
oh someone had said that I sounded like

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someone on the rail. That's her
name, Laura. I'm going to get

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it wrong anyway, but thank you
guys all for shouting me out and shouting

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my dad out. Favorite you're like
people because I think just from early on

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when you came on, I don't
know, this was back in the day

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where people really don't like guests,
and now we have guests. We have

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them on our Thursday show. Yeah, but you've always been as you know,

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they're always like, we don't like
guests, Exceptulie. I know.

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It's so I'm like, dude,
thank you, Like I don't know because

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you're what I've done, but because
I'm normal, because you're normal and fun

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and a good broadcaster and you tell
fun stories and you're you're never here to

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shill anything true that that is true. I'm not here, Yeah, I'm

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here for nothing other than a good
time. So exactly, so you just

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got back last night. So I
was thinking about this because I'm like,

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okay, I'm going on the podcast
tomorrow. Today's Monday. I got back

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from Carbos Sunday, and somehow Stephanie, Stephanie and Lynette will take a trip

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or do something and have the funniest
stories, the craziest story. Some shit

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is always happen to you guys at
the airport, on the plane, at

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the hotel. Like you guys will
take what seems like a very simple,

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mundane trip and it becomes this crazy
funny You're so good at like storytelling,

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you very good at that. Meanwhile, and I was like, how can

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I make my trip to Cabo that? And I can't really, but I'll

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just tell you it was just really
fun. So so Bella so hard when

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everything's just like five stars. It's
just like how do you complain? You

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know, and just they're waiting on
your hand and foot and the food's so

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delicious. Yeah, I know,
it's hard. It's hard to complain off.

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Yeah, I know exactly. Now
go on. So they only had

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a couple of days overlap with their
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relate to that when you have different
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So I was I had no plans
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I wasn't going to do anything,
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dude, we need to go somewhere
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all right, let's drive down to
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I was like, like, I don't

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want to get on a plane.
I just I just wanted to chill.

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But of course you do for your
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and go to Cabo for so hard. It's really hard hard. That's what

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we do as moms. We just
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a smile on their face. So
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go to Cabo. Great. I
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where you could actually swim in the
water, because in Cabo San Lucas there's

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a lot of riptides and so a
lot of the hotels you can't actually swim

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in the water. Even if they're
right on the water, you can't necessarily

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just go down to the beach and
jump in. So then when we're seeing

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pictures of people on their vacates to
Cabo and they're in the water, what

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are we seeing there's certain places where
you can go in the water, and

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there's certain resorts where you can go
in the water. So I found that

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resort. So and why did you
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it close? Because it's close,
it's a two hour flight. It was

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an hour and fifty three minutes getting
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okay. And I was just like, I just don't want to go

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to Hawaii, Like I just didn't
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to like something simple and easy.
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Cabo is like can be one big
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I was gonna say, like,
it's that's you hear about Cabo for

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spring break And that's exactly what it
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at UCLA they the Greek Bella's in
a sorority, so they have the Greek

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system. So they were like,
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a bunch of sorty guys. Someone
plans this big trip and they rent out

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the hotel and they plan events for
every day. You're gonna go on a

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boat, this day, you're gonna
do this, this day, this night

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you're doing this, it's a whole
thing. But it's literally all the fraternity

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guys and sorty guys at UCLA descend
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know, drinking and whatever else,
debauchery the whole thing. So Bella was

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like, Mom, can I go? And literally my stomach dropped. I

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was like, that sounds terrifying to
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it's I don't like. To me, it felt very out of control,

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out of my control, like in
terms of like I don't know, someone

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going to slip something in your drink, Like who are these people that are

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going on the strip? I didn't
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it was. Initially I was just
like, what just a bunch of fraternio

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story people going to Commo and like
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hotels in random places and they get
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We don't know. They end up
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know. I went to the darkest
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Bella, honestly, the sad thing
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the pool, I was like,
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talking about. Yes, yes,
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I think I heard a podcast.
I know I heard a podcast that

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these people ended up dead in a
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nobody could explain it. They had
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like, it's just sad that.
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you're like, sorry, I know
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So of course I was like,
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Bella was like half in, half
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like, oh, like that could
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also be like kind of sketchy,
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to Mexico and to go down there
by yourself, and she's very adventurous and

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it's not so she was kind of
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were like, go, you're gonna
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gone. But we were like,
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you know, a little family vaca. So she was like, okay,

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let's just do that. So the
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in the airports everywhere, it's just
college, like you said, college kids

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everywhere there, like you know,
fraternity sweatshirts on this that they're hats,

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they're whatever they So then I was
having fomo for her because I was like,

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oh my god, look at all
these people they're doing it, Like,

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oh my god, I feel terrible. So we get to this hotel.

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So I didn't want a hotel where
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I texted my mom friend group and
I was like, guys, where do

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you guys go in Mexico, like
with your family. So they're sending me

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places and then one girl's like,
me Cabo. This hotel me Cowbos,

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it's great, da da. So
I started looking at me Cabo and every

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single review is like it's so fun. It's a big party. They're blasting

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music. It's like surf dislay at
the pool. There's all these weird people

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dancing. I was like, oh
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exactly what I don't want to do. So I found the Hilton Los Cobos

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shout out Hilton Los Cabos. So
Los Cobos is twenty minutes south of Cabo,

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San Lucas, Okay, So there's
a lot of hotels there as well,

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but it's not busy. It's like
the retirement community. Oh yeah,

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of Cobo exactly, but just nice
hotels, nice resorts, golf courses,

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kind of like a little bit of
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yes, I was having So when
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I mean it really was families or
couples or this and that. But it

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was this beautiful hotel. You can
swim, you just go right down to

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the ocean swim. We spent the
days like just in the pool, in

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the ocean. It was amazing and
Bella had a wonderful time. But for

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the first day and a half,
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this is somewhere. It's like I've
got my nineteen year old, you know,

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college kid here with like us as
a family, and like, you

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know, there were not many college
kids at this hotel. But then I

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would be like, oh see see
see those guys they're in college. They're

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here with their parents. Do By
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best trip ever. This is exactly
what I wanted. Totally relaxing, so

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fun. We did go into Cabo
one night and it was just not it

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was you know, if you're going
to go into Cabo, you probably don't

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go into like nine thirty or ten
o'clock at night and you just go straight

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to a bar, you know,
and just drink and part right, and

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that that's not what we were doing. So it was just me and the

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girls because Jamil couldn't go. He
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the best mother daughter girl trip like
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I don't really have any crazy stories
or anything to complain about. We

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did do like a one day where
you go on a sailboat and you they

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provide lunch. It's an open bar, and then they take you in this

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cove and you go snorkeling and all
that stuff. So you know, is

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it booze cruisy or was it everybody
was drinking. There were only fourteen of

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us on the boat, so it
wasn't like so packed, but yes,

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everybody was taking advantage of the open
bar except for me of course. And

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even Bella was like, I do
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on this boat and like start vomiting, you know, like just most she

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didn't know if she's gonna get motion
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were the sober ones and it was
the best because you know, you start

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out on the cruise, everybody's like, who having a good time, but

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kind of quiet, you know,
and this and that. By the time

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we were heading back, everybody's like
like dancing. And then this mom and

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this dad with their two sons.
The mom and the dad was the best.

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They were just like you know,
white folk from the East Coast,

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huh, and very nice like my
age, you know. But you know,

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you just didn't expect. All of
a sudden, the dad on the

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way back is just like, you
know, cheersing everybody on the boat,

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and like the music would go on, he'd just start like bopping his head

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start dancing. I was like,
this is amazing. So it was fun

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to watch being sober. And then
the mom was like like we had like

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a there was a captain, and
then there was like this guy who was

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like serving us and stuff, and
he was cute and kind of young.

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So she's like going up against him
dancing like listen, I'll do what I

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got to do to get my tip. Like if this is what it takes,

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I got to dance with the moms, the drunk moms, I will

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do it. Just give me the
tip. Afterwards. The kids are like

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nine and eleven. Oh gosh,
it was very funny. That's going to

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be seared into their brains. Though, yes, yes, and yes.

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And I grew up around some drinking
too, and I think that's why I

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don't do it, because I it
was embarrassing as a kid. So I

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was like, I just I don't
need to be I do not need to

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do this to my kids. Whatever. Everybody's having a right time. Look,

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the writing was on the wall for
me before I quit drinking. I

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was like, my kids were real
young when I quit drinking. But I

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was like, you know, I
will, by accident, end up being

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that drunk mom that you know,
yes that my kids are at an age

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where it's not cute. It's not
funny. See mom going like a exactly

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flashing my boobs. Yeah, like
mom, please please, I know.

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So Cobo was amazing. I had
the best I have to shout out to

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someone who probably doesn't listen to the
show, but I'm gonna shout them out

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anyway. So check this out.
So we're at the hotel and there's a

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like an infinity pool, and next
to the infinity pool. Lining the infinity

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pool are these cabanas, really nice
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You're right there in the action.
You know, when you go to

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these hotels, like the chairs are
hard to come by. You got to

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go down at seven am, put
your book on some chairs. If you

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want to get some lounge chair,
right, they're gone so fast. The

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cabanas you have to rent. I
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I didn't ask. I was like, we're just gonna get up at

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seven am, throw our books on
some chairs and do that. So the

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second the kids like, okay,
cool, yeah, get up at seven

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am on our vacation and oh no, I'm up early. Anyway, I

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got to the jam, I do
my thing. Oh yeah, yeah.

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I was like, guys, I
got you. Don't worry about Okay,

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mom thinks so that was number not
an issue. But so anyway, so

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I get into the Infinity pool and
this is one morning. This was Friday.

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We got there Wednesday. This was
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I got some chairs for us,
and we just spent the day in

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the sun. The problem with the
chairs is you're in the sun the entire

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day, so you can't spend as
much time by the pool because you don't

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have that break of shade the cabanas
though you've got shade, you've got sun.

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You can pull the curtains, you
can do whatever you want to have

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as much or as little son as
you want. And it's just like this

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big bed. It's so it's it's
it's cush it's nice. So anyway,

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I get into the Infinity Pool and
you can it's a standing pool, you

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know, so it's not so deep. And this boy was throwing a football

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with another boy. They were like
ten years old. So I'm walking by

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them, but I kind of got
a little close to the boy so I

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could go around him to get to
the edge of the pool. And this

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dad goes, hey, son,
watch out, watch out. I'm like,

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no, no, no, it's
good. I was about I was

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about to intercept anyway, because they
were throwing a football and you're like oh.

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And then I walk and they throw
it and cat and then the dad

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says to me, oh, you
missed your chance. I was like,

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look, I'm just trying to be
nice to these little boys. I don't

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want to, you know, like
show them up. And he's like ha

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ha ha. That was the end
of that. So then like ten minutes

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later, the girls are now in
the infinity pool and I go to take

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a picture of them and I'm kind
of bending down to take shots and the

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same dad comes up to me and
he's like, hey, listen, literally

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it was eleven in the morning.
He's like, so we rented this cabana

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for the whole day, but we're
about to catch a flight. Do you

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want the cabana. I was like
wait what. I was like really,

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and he's like, yeah, it's
yours. You can have it if you

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want to. I'm like, are
you Like yeah, dude, I'll be

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like like the best mom My teenagers
are gonna love me. And he's like,

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yeah, I saw you had your
girls totally take it. And I

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was like, oh, thank you
so much. His name's Brian Baldwin.

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I don't know where he's from or
what he does the coolest. All day

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we were like cheers to Brian,
Cheers to Brian, like every time,

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and then like I took a nap
in there, and we literally spent from

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like eleven am until five pm the
entire day. We ordered food to the

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cabana to his account, though you
know not why wouldn't you. It's like

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put it on Brian's step. So
it was just like it was just like

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a magical day. It was just
one of those things where it was like

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meant to happen. And the kids
are like, Mom, it's because you

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were flirting with him. That's why
I gave you. I'm like, are

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you looking to talk? And they
were, they were messing with me.

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I was like, I'm not,
I was not even I just I'm a

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friendly person. So I was just
like messing around and they're like it.

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He didn't have a wedding ring on
it. He was just with his son.

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I was like, well, listen, whatever you gotta do. Gotta

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do girls. This is a lesson
in life. Okay, if you want

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something, you just got to flaunt
it. It's really easy. Tits up,

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girls up and out. Tits an
ass up. My ass is down,

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but there's his ups. You just
put them out there. You're like,

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would it kill you to wear a
bikini? Like what? Why?

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The one? Can? We also
talk about the bikinis. So I have

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a nineteen year old and a fifteen
year old. There are very few bikinis

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that are actually full butt anymore.
Like if you go to Hollister or wherever

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you're going to shop for bikinis.
So they're in like the Brazilian Like,

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my fuck freaking fifteen year old is
in a bathing suit. It's not g

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string, but it might as well
be. Right. This is so cheeky,

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cheeky. That's called cheeky. That's
exactly what it's called. And I'm

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like, Sophie, you're fifteen,
and she's like, mom, this is

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like what everybody would. It is
so against like everything in my bones for

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them for me to be like,
Okay, I guess you have to wear

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that. But I didn't have a
choice, like there is. We were

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at Hollister and they did have like
regular they did. I mean it wasn't

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that they didn't, but she was
like, but there are very few you'd

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have to go to, like you'd
have to go to like your jaz Penny,

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yeah, to find ye ny.
So it was just and I just

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feel for the men, the dads
that have to sit there and look at

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these like younger girls in like I'm
sure they're feeling like a little I don't

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I'm not prude, but it's just
weird, Like it's just weirdest. Maybe

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it's just because it's my kid.
So I with Bella doing it. It

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doesn't bother me. She's an adult
whatever. She's almost twenty this year,

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and like I kind of it felt
more comfortable to be an adult and showing

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more of your body than to be
fifteen and having like your butt hanging out.

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I don't know it is. I
remember just when the kids started.

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I remember that phase started when our
kids were twelve, okay. I remember

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we had a friend that yes,
yeah, who, yes, who started

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on the skimpy bathing suits early where
are there either of us did? And

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we were all scandalized by that.
Yes, yes, oh my god,

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so and so went to the beach
and the mom didn't even say anything.

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She thought it was cute. Yeah, and we were like horrified. Yeah.

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And then yes, a few years
later, oh my god. And

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now here's Elbe going to her rave. Okay. Bella showed me the picture

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because I was like, okay,
Stephanie talked about Elbe going to a rave

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and Bella like, oh, yeah, she has it on her and I

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was like, okay, show me
this picture. It was so cute though,

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that's what they all wear at raves, right, but she was wearing

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tiny, like basically bikini bottoms.
I saw the white outfit. Okay,

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not the one you're talking about.
There's another outfit. It was like a

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little white tennis skirt with a white
bikini top and then her hair and the

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cute whatever she was doing with it. Right, it was a total rave

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with the high boots. Yes,
but apparently you know it's it's very trendy

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as the showing your whole ass to
basically show the whole underneath of Yes,

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the under boob. Under boob is
like in for me, I would be

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like, pull that down? Do
you want to pull that down? You?

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How could you? But it's uncomfortable. Look, it just looks like

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it doesn't fit. But they're like, no, that's how it's supposed to

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be. So basically, just your
nipples are covered and everything's fall It looks

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like you're just falling out of it. It's like a Kendle Jenner thing.

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It was like a g hedied bellahadide
Kendall Jenner. They all did that.

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know, a lot of times we have

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like we're into it, but sometimes we're

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gosh, I can get all of
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to say obsessed with all the with
the workout pants. Oh yeah, I've

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raved about the workout pants, the
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five pocket pants and I got it
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yeah, the the it's it's difficult
because our kids are at an age,

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like you said, fifteen, it
still feels young. Yeah, it is

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young. I think it's I was
very uncomfortable with it. But for me,

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when I was young, I had
and it how do how do I

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put this? I don't want to
body shame myself, but I had the

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I had cellu light from a very
young age because I don't know, it's

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just like you know, it's hereditary. So even though I was a gymnast

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when I was really young, and
so around the age of like twelve thirteen,

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I still everything was still very tight
and from gymnastics. But then when

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I stopped doing gymnastics, I went
through puberty and had just like a lot

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of cellulate and I don't I remember
feeling like something's wrong with me, like

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yeah, and I just didn't.
I always had that feeling of not wanting

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to like show off. And so
even later when stuff was in style of

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like more of a g stream look
like a never in a million years,

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and I was always like who who
who does that? I say, we

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grew up. I think in an
air, especially in the eighties, where

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it was just like the really blonde
tan girls that would do that and you

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get away with it. Nobody else
is doing that, And also it seemed

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also seemed very foreign. It was
like, well, if you're on a

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beach in Brazil, yes, but
am I on a beach in Brazil.

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You're in like a bikini contest.
That's the only place you're going to see

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that, right, right, it's
so odd And now it's like every now

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it's like the norm almost right,
it's like weird if you're Meanwhile, I

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had my like, you know,
bikini full butt like and then Sophie says

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to me, we're at the pool. She goes, there's so many one

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pieces here? Why is everybody doing
a one piece? I go, because

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as you age, things don't look
as good as they used to. Like,

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oh, yeah, girl, you
gotta like cover up. It's yeah.

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Oh. I find myself drawn to
the Facebook ads for like full skirts,

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like on the bathing suit. I'm
like, oh, that's pretty good,

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Like hi, make it a kneeling
right, Like oh, I've seen

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something where it's basically like a dress
for the water though, and like it's

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like a maxi dress, but you
swim in it? Sign me up?

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How do I get one of those? Like, I'm just like, you

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know, I could wear seriously,
if there was like a swimsuit burka.

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I know it's like for reserve for
people's religious reasons, but I want one.

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I'll wear it, I know.
And then I just got to the

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point, to be honest, when
I was out by the pool. I

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mean, I had a bikini on
and stuff, but you know when you

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walk to the bathroom and you put
you know, you want to like cover

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up. I finally was like,
I just don't care. I'm never going

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to see these people again. I'm
just gonna walk to the bathroom in a

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bikini and like I don't care what's
jiggling, what's mood? Like it is

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what it is, you know,
I don't care. So I'm sure I'm

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like that mom that I used to
look at and be like, why doesn't

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she put on somebody clothes like when
I was young, Yeah, oh god,

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she should not be in the bikini. But I'm like, well where

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I where I am with you on
That is the fact that when I was

404
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,440
growing up, my mom was a
hippie, did not like wearing brash,

405
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:42,480
and I was horrified that my mom
would walk around with these low hanging tits,

406
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:47,119
you know, with no support in
just like a T shirt, walking

407
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,599
around and I'd be like, god, I wish my mom would wear a

408
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,000
bra, you know, And now
I'm her I don't do it. I'm

409
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:56,759
not going to like, well I
have gone to Target with that, but

410
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,880
I'm like walking the dog, I'm
just like, hey, the sweatshirt's loose.

411
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,400
You're wearing a big, baggy sweatshirt. That works, but if you're

412
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,160
in a T shirt, please Stephanie. Oh god, I know, and

413
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:11,839
I have big boob, so I
can't. I'm not I'm not doing that,

414
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,400
but I'm saying it is funny because
I do think, like sometimes when

415
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,559
I'm walking the dog, I'm like, well, I hope I don't really

416
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680
run into anybody. But then I'm
like, well, can I running into

417
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:23,000
the neighbors? Like okay, okay, the neighbors are going to see me,

418
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,279
like in a loose sweatshirt without a
bra, Like that's fine. Like

419
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:30,440
I've got I've gotten much looser with
my you know. Yeah, you get

420
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,359
to the point where you don't have
any fucks to give. Yeah, I

421
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,480
don't have a lot, but I
still do have that. There is a

422
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,759
cringe factor with that. I think
of my children, think of the children,

423
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,640
and of the child always. Oh
my gosh, do we know we

424
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,640
don't? We just did an ad. I'm like, I'm all discombobulated.

425
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,720
I wanted to know. I brought
it up last time. So I want

426
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:57,359
you to tell the story of So
you you you have been with Jamil for

427
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:02,519
a long time, really long time. So we celebrated twenty years last year

428
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,079
married. Yeah, but we've basically
been on and off together since nineteen ninety

429
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,640
six. Yeah. So I'm not
that old. I was twenty you met

430
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,680
Yeah, but yeah, you met
him really young. I've always found this

431
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,160
story to be fascinating. Okay,
So you met him in college. Okay,

432
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:22,599
so this is what happened. So
I was at Pepperdine and he was

433
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,440
at UC Riverside in a program called
the BioMed program, where it's very very

434
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:32,759
competitive, where you do three years
of undergrad and your fourth year is at

435
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:40,640
UCLA Medical School. Okay, So
he when he was in college and then

436
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,359
you still have to go to med
school after that. Yes, you do

437
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,960
three years at UC Riverside. Your
fourth year is not. You're done with

438
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,640
college in three years and your fourth
year is your first year of medical school.

439
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Oh UCLA. But then you have
to apply to other medical schools or

440
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,680
you can get in. So when
you originally apply to the program, it's

441
00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,000
very competitive because once you're in,
it's a straight shot to medical school.

442
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,400
Wow. And then people it's really
impressive. People drop out along the way

443
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,039
though, so you end up with
like intent it's to wait. It's really

444
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,000
intense. So you end up with
like thirty I think a cohort of thirty

445
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,160
oh by the end, I don't
know how many start. But so the

446
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:17,160
thing is Dremill and I met at
a very good time. He was twenty

447
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,119
one. I was twenty so I
was in my third year of college or

448
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,880
something, and he was now in
his first year of medical school. Okay,

449
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,119
if I would have met him before, he was a total frat boy,

450
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,039
like, total partier, total womanizer, total frat boy. He would

451
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,799
admit it, and he he those
were his glory days. He still talks

452
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:42,880
about that. So where did you
meet? So the funny thing was is

453
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,720
so so anyway? So I was
just never a big partier, like,

454
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,640
yes, I've gotten drunk in my
twenties and this and that. But I

455
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:52,640
just I never searched for the party. It wasn't the big party or he

456
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:56,559
was, so it never would have
happened if we had met a year prior.

457
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,559
But anyway, my dad was getting
in a war in the Lebanese community

458
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,640
and it was spring break for both
of us. So Jamie's uncle was going,

459
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:08,799
and Jamill's uncle was like, Hey, why don't you come with me

460
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,839
to this gala event where, you
know, Casey Caasem's getting an award.

461
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,759
My dad was kind of big in
the Lebanese community because I weren't at the

462
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,440
time, there weren't that many,
you know, a famous Lebanese people.

463
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:23,920
So Jimial's like, all right,
I'll come with you and my dad obviously

464
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,000
we went because he was getting the
award, and so I met him there

465
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:32,079
that night and I just met him. He was with his sister and we

466
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,079
chit chatted. I was with my
brother and sister and that was the end

467
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:38,000
of that. Like I didn't didn't
even think twice. And then the next

468
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,640
day you didn't think he was cute. I it just no, Like I

469
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,680
just was like, oh, Hi, nice to meet you. I didn't

470
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,640
go like, oh, he's got
like, nothing sparked anything. Okay.

471
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,480
But the next day, my dad's
like, I'm going to a protest.

472
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,720
Do you want to come with me? And I was like, yeah,

473
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,920
I do. So I went to
the protest and my dad and I walk

474
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,799
in and there's Jamille holding a sign
like walking, and then I saw him

475
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,559
and he was like, oh,
hey, Jackie, right, and I

476
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,240
was like, no, my name's
Julie. But that's weird that you say

477
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:11,400
that, because I've always, since
I was a kid, wanted to change

478
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,759
my name to Jackie. All well, I won't even say, but at

479
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,319
the time I used those my passwords
were that everything, like everything was Jackie.

480
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,960
So it was really that was kind
of weird. So then I was

481
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:23,039
like, all right, I'll walk
with you. So I just walked with

482
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:26,400
him and talked with him. By
the end of the protest, I was

483
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,720
like, oh my god, I
am so into this guy. So at

484
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:32,759
that time, he was in his
first year of medical school, but he

485
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:36,200
was still living in Riverside because you
do your first year there and then you

486
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:40,200
come down to Westwood. Anyway,
this is that doesn't really matter, but

487
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:41,720
he was still in Riverside, so
that part matters, and I was at

488
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Pepperdine, so we were on opposite
ends of I mean, he wasn't even

489
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,400
in Los Angeles County, so we
were we were an hour a good hour

490
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,440
and a half away from each other. Yeah. Anyway, so then he

491
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,319
said, at the end of the
protest, he goes, my friends and

492
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,240
I are going to the Brentwood like
art show. Do you want to come?

493
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:00,079
And I couldn't. I really couldn't. So I go, I'm so

494
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,920
sorry, I can't. Blah blah
blah's happening. He goes, Okay,

495
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,200
great, and that was the end
of that. He didn't get my phone

496
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,799
number. What no? And I
was like, like we hit it off,

497
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Like we just talked and laughed the
whole time and it was really great.

498
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,440
He didn't get my number, but
I was like, so we leave

499
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,359
and I call my friend. I
was like, I met this guy.

500
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,960
I'm like, I'm sure through the
Lebanese community, he will somehow find my

501
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,960
phone number. And these were like
who would have anyway? This was there

502
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,680
were no cell phones, so he
would have had to call some home number.

503
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,839
I don't even know how, but
whatever. Anyway, So like a

504
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,519
week goes by and I'm calling my
friend Julian Melanie telling him, I'm like,

505
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200
wait, it's weird that he hasn't
called because we like for sure connected.

506
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,160
And he even asked me to go
out afterwards and I couldn't. So

507
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:42,920
then I was like it was two
weeks later. I'm like, fuck it,

508
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,759
I'm calling for one one as you
did back in nineteen ninety six,

509
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:49,960
huh. And I was like,
I don't remember this part of the story.

510
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,119
I did. I'm loving it literally
because I didn't. I wasn't that

511
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,480
in with the Lebanese community, so
I wouldn't have known anybody that would have

512
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,920
known him, Like I didn't know
a lot of Lebanese people per se at

513
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,599
the time, and so it's like, I guess i'll call four one one.

514
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:10,039
So I called four one one for
Riverside and I asked for Jimmille and

515
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,759
there was a number, which is
interesting because he had two other roommates,

516
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,000
so it could have been any one
of those roommates that set up the phone

517
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,799
under their name, but it just
so happened that he set up the phone

518
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,680
under his name, okay, and
so they had it registered. So I

519
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,480
called him. So the way he
tells the story is we were at the

520
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,079
protest. I asked you to go
to this art show. You said no,

521
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,759
So I thought you weren't interested in
me, so I didn't ask you

522
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,480
for your number because he has a
lot of pride too, and he's like,

523
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:37,599
oh, yeah he does. He
does. So he's like, okay,

524
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:43,000
I guess I guess that's a no. So then I called him and

525
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,559
he was like, what, Like
I left a message with his roommate and

526
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,359
he says when he got home and
his roommate's like, yes, someone named

527
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Julie Casam called. He was like
what. He just thought it was so

528
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:54,680
weird, you know, He's like, oh, that's weird. So then

529
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:59,680
we talked and then he thought it
was weird that you'd call him. He

530
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:02,200
just he's like, maybe she wants
me to tutor her. Because I was

531
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,000
even talking because I was at the
time doing I was a science major,

532
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,119
so like we talked about classes and
I was taking organic chemistry at the time,

533
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,119
and it was just like he was
like maybe he didn't think I liked

534
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160
him, and so anyway, so
then we went So then we started talked

535
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,880
more, talked more, and then
he's like, let's go out. So

536
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,920
then we went out and he drove
all the way from Riverside to Pepperdine.

537
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,200
He got a speeding ticket on the
way. Yeah. He's like, I

538
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:30,759
had like no money at the time, my car was falling apart. He

539
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,799
was like, this is the last
thing I needed. So he then he

540
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,839
tells the story how he showed how
he shows up to the gates at Pepperdine

541
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,720
and he was like, they thought
I was a delivery boy when I asked

542
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,640
to see Julie Kayesum, they were
like, are you making a delivery?

543
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,119
It's like funny how he says it. Anyway, so he picks me up.

544
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,000
We go think your sway from you. Thanks guys, Sorry about that.

545
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:58,000
Okay, So we go out to
dinner in Third Street Promenade. We

546
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,759
go eat Italian food and I was
just like, oh my god, this

547
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,359
guy's incredible. And then like that
was it. Then we like took me

548
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,960
down to the beach, we kissed
on the beach, and then he dropped

549
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,519
me back off and like I don't
know, we were just like inseparable from

550
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:14,480
that point on, like it's just
like, oh, this is my guy.

551
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:20,039
So then then so that's ninety six
to ninety seven, and he would

552
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,079
travel with my family on vacations,
and it was just like, oh he

553
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,719
would married, he's got all that
I love you that was happening, everything,

554
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,800
everything, like it was just like
okay, like we're together now.

555
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,400
But I was twenty turning twenty one. He was twenty one turning twenty two.

556
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,679
But I didn't even think of age
at the time, Like I wasn't

557
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,639
thinking marriage. But I was like
this is going to be like we're good.

558
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,320
We found each other right right right, And then like a year and

559
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,679
a half later he broke up with
me. Like it was pretty much out

560
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,679
of nowhere. It was like the
most heart wrenching thing. But in his

561
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,760
mind he was like, you know, I'm going to go to medical school

562
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,519
and then I may want to go
move back, because he like left Lebanon

563
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,400
when he was ten, then he
lived in Kenya for six years and then

564
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,639
he came to the States. Wow, So in his mind he was like

565
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,079
he left Lebanon when there was a
war, and now the war was over,

566
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,760
and he was like, I think
I want to be a doctor.

567
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,199
I want to go back to Lebanon. I want to open a clinic and

568
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,880
like give back, you know,
to the Lebanese community. And I was

569
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,840
like, yeah, I'm not moving
to Lebanon, like I that was just

570
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,440
not so you had already talked about
that before he broke up with you,

571
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:29,480
like I want to be doing that
terms. It was like he know,

572
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:30,880
he didn't say like I'm definitely doing
this, but he was like, I

573
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,159
think I kind of want to like
explore going back to Lebanon, and I

574
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,559
would I'd be like, oh god, I'm not. I'm no, I'm

575
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:38,519
not gonna like I'm not going to
live there. But it was never like

576
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:42,800
a sit down, serious conversation.
It was like in passing, like thinking

577
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,559
about our futures, right, And
so I think in his mind he was

578
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,000
like, well, wait a minute, like if that's not in her future,

579
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:51,320
I don't want to I don't want
this to continue because that might very

580
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,519
well be in my future. And
so he spent a summer in Lebanon and

581
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:59,679
he came back and he's like,
I don't know where my future is,

582
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,760
and I don't want this to continue
if that's what I want to do,

583
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,719
and da da da da. And
I think there was a girl in Lebanon

584
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,840
and he denies it to this day, but I know there was definitely if

585
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,880
they I don't know if they get
hooked up or not, but there's definitely

586
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,719
a flirtation going on there. So
I think that was also a catalyst for

587
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,000
like, hey, she's in Lebanon, maybe I really want to like go

588
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,360
there and that's my future. And
Julie is a California American girl, even

589
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,159
though I'm half Lebanese, who's not
gonna vibe with being in that country?

590
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,880
Which you know, it's my home
country in terms of my grandfather was born

591
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,199
and my grandmother was born there like
that, for all intents and purposes,

592
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,599
is my heritage and I'm very proud
of it. But I'm very much American

593
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:49,920
in terms of my like sensibilities and
way of life. So he broke up

594
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,039
with me. I was so devastated. You know when you're like your first

595
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:59,320
love and you're like the world's over, Like it's just over. Like I

596
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,440
just gained weight. I was just
like I could not get out of the

597
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:06,760
funk. Took me a very long
time. Didn't you wish you were the

598
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,400
kind of person who lost weight when
things were like, well, who are

599
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:14,400
those people? Who are those people
that I don't understand? I'm just not

600
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,880
hungry. Where's the ice cream?
Where are the cookies. I need something

601
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,880
to feel good and this is making
me feel good. Yeah, yes,

602
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,039
totally. So did you when he
broke up with you? Were you just

603
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,960
like, don't do it? Like
what, No, don't do this?

604
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,039
Or were you like kind of was
like I get it, Like I didn't

605
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,920
fight it because it was just he
had He's also a guy that when he

606
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,039
makes up his mind, he sticks
with it. You know, he's not

607
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,280
wish now that being said, and
the time we were broken up, we

608
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,360
did hook up a few times,
right, I was going to get to

609
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,880
that. Yeah. So wait,
so he breaks up with you, so

610
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,360
you're how long were you like really
broken up before he reached out and was

611
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,800
like, wow, okay, hold
on, you know what, we should

612
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,679
take a quick break. Let's take
a quick break and then and then hear

613
00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:00,760
the rest. Okay, we're back. Yeah. So we were broken up

614
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,000
a total of three years before he
came back and said, I love you,

615
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,800
I want to marry you. You're
the person for me. So in

616
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,559
those three years, he had another
girlfriend, I had another boyfriend, but

617
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,559
we would like see like he always
said, I'm we're not getting back together,

618
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,079
but then like we would randomly like
run into each other or call each

619
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:23,440
other and have like a little hookup, and then he'd be like, but

620
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:28,440
please know, like I'm telling you
that I this is like we're having fun.

621
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,960
I'm not getting back together with you. But in my mind I'm like,

622
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,400
oh, yes you are, like
we're just gonna hook up and then

623
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,679
you're gonna fall back in love with
me. And then he wouldn't write,

624
00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:39,039
and then I'd be kind of heartbroken
again. And then one time he called

625
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:42,320
me, He's like, hey,
can you like take me shopping? Like

626
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,960
I need new clothes and stuff,
and like can you help me pick stuff

627
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,480
out? So now we went shopping
and in the dressing room, oh yeah,

628
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,079
it's like you know those kinds of
things and in your mind where you

629
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,639
like, I'm gonna prove to him
that I'm finn and sexy and like exactly,

630
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,599
Okay, as we women do,
you were the piney, the piner

631
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,360
always yes, and then as the
guys do, they're in it having fun

632
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,199
and then they're like sorry, and
you're like, but but but I will

633
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,000
say he never said he never called
me and was like I love you,

634
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:14,920
let's get together, and then hooked
up with me and ghosted me. He

635
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:19,320
always said, this is not right, but we were very attracted to each

636
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,159
other, you know, and I
was like, in my mind, I'm

637
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,400
like, we'll get back together.
Things will happen. So then finally I

638
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,159
applied to graduate school. I was
like twenty four twenty five at the time,

639
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,519
and I got into USC and I
got into graduate school in Boston.

640
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:34,840
And then that's when I finally said, you know what, I need to

641
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,559
move out of this state for a
little while to get over him, fully

642
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,920
get over him. I mean I
had boyfriends and stuff, but he was

643
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:43,960
just We lived around the corner from
each other in Brentwood, so I'd always

644
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,800
drive by and I would always like
see if there was a girl who was

645
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,000
car parked in his driveway because his
he had like a car park thing.

646
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,360
Anyway, one time there was,
so then me and my roommate at the

647
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,239
time like snuck up and look through
the window to see if we could see

648
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,800
who the girl was. Oh my
god, did you Oh we did.

649
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:01,880
I didn't see her, but like, just like things like that, I

650
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:05,079
was like, I don't know.
I couldn't get him out of my mind.

651
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,559
So I was like, finally like
I'm out. I'm out. So

652
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,039
I moved to Boston and we're talking
still, like we were friendly always,

653
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:15,719
but like and I was like,
dude, you should come visit me and

654
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,800
he's like no, He's like,
you know, if I come visit you,

655
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,239
that means something else. And he's
like, and I'm not there,

656
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,519
Like I'm just not there yet.
He's like, you really just move on.

657
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,360
Like so he didn't say I'm not
there yet, he said I'm not

658
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:30,480
I'm not there. He's like,
I love our friendship and I value you

659
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:32,239
and I love you and you're such
a great person, but like we're on

660
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,960
two different paths, you know.
He's like, and if I fly out

661
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,480
to Boston, then that means something
and I'm not there. So I moved

662
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:45,800
to Boston in August. I come
back for Christmas break in December and he's

663
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,000
like, can I see you?
And of course I was like yes,

664
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:52,000
and he's like, I love you. I want to spend the rest of

665
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:55,920
my life with you. I'm like, really, we were for three years.

666
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,119
We were literally across the street from
each other in what across the alley

667
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:05,159
from each other. But it took
me moving across the country for you to

668
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,519
realize like, oh wait a minute, this really is who I want.

669
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,360
I think because I moved on with
my life and I was making friends in

670
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,320
Boston and I was like just doing
my own thing. I think he was

671
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,360
like whoa, wait what And of
course distance makes the heart grow fonder.

672
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,320
So then we were together. And
then were you at all worried that he

673
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:27,679
was into it because you were far
away? And it wasn't no, because

674
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:30,559
he's the guy that when he makes
up his mind, he's like no,

675
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,320
no, no, no no.
So he never once in those three years

676
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,719
said I want to get back together
with you. I mean, we had

677
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,840
hooked up. He always said,
you're such a great person, but our

678
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:44,360
futures are different. But he never
said I don't I'm falling out of love

679
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,039
with you. It's more like this
isn't going to work because we are just

680
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,719
we have two different lives, you
know, right anyway, So yeah,

681
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,639
so that's kind of her. Stayed
in Boston though, So I stayed in

682
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:57,960
Boston and he would fly out,
I would fly home. And then a

683
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,239
year later he proposed to me on
Valentine Day in Boston. Still from still

684
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,199
doing long distance. We did long
distance for a year and a half after

685
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,519
that, because I was there a
total of two years. Yeah. Oh

686
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,079
wait, so you only did graduate
school for two years. Yeah, it's

687
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:15,519
two years year round. The USC
program is three years with summers off.

688
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:20,440
The Northeastern program is two years,
but you're there all the time, like

689
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,400
you're there summers and everything, so
it's like like three years because you don't

690
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,519
have breaks. I mean, you
just get your normal breaks. Okay.

691
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:28,960
Yeah, it was like an accelerated
I guess program. Wow. Okay.

692
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,559
So then he proposed, they proposed, and then I moved back in two

693
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:35,599
thousand and three. We were married, So we together from ninety six to

694
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,119
ninety seven, We broke up from
ninety seven to two thousand, got back

695
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:44,440
together basically like January of two thousand
and one, and then married two years

696
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,679
after that. It's so funny because
we it's a little bit similar. I

697
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,239
mean, John and I didn't break
up, but I'm because I met him

698
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,679
later because I'm older than you.
Yeah, but we met in ninety nine,

699
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:59,559
end of ninety nine, and then
we moved in like a couple years

700
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,000
later, and then we were married
in oh four. Yeah. Yeah,

701
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:08,280
so that's that's our love story.
I just love the I mean, just

702
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,559
the pining is so relatable and not
being able to like get over it,

703
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,559
and you know, every I feel
like every girl goes through that or every

704
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:20,920
person I should say, could be
guy or a girl where you just and

705
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,760
I don't know, I feel like
maybe I feel like guys have an easier

706
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,559
shut off valve. Maybe I'm wrong, whereas women are just like but but

707
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,440
but it could work and like,
and then you have these fantasies of how

708
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,679
it could work, and you're like, but if he just sees me once,

709
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,159
like if we just go out one
more time, then he'll remember how

710
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,639
great I am and how much he
likes me. Right, and then you

711
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,519
go out and it doesn't happen.
Well, but then but it will like

712
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:45,280
okay, But like you just you
constantly have these fantasies of like how it's

713
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,000
gonna eventually work out, and most
of the time it doesn't, Like you

714
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,119
know, I think, I I
don't know why it worked out with us.

715
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,239
I just I always felt like we
just he's my guy, like it

716
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,800
was weird, like again I dated
other and let me say this, I'm

717
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,119
glad we broke up for three years. We were both too young to like

718
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,920
fully commit, me being twenty him
being twenty one. I hooked up with

719
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,280
people he hooked up with people.
I think it was better to get all

720
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,760
that out of your system before you
do come back and get together. I

721
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,800
really believe that because you know,
like if you get together so young,

722
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,119
like I don't know, do you
at some point start wondering what else is

723
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,960
out there? At some point I
don't know. I feel like you probably

724
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:30,760
do twistertain extent. Yeah. So, and like I tell my girls the

725
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,840
same thing. I'm like dates,
like go out, like meet people,

726
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,920
so you know who you like and
who you don't like. You know,

727
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:39,400
like the type of person you want
and the type of person you don't want.

728
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,559
Right, you need to have a
lot of experiences. You need to

729
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:46,239
have breakups, you need to have
all of it so you really understand like

730
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,400
the type of person and the type
of lifestyle you want to live. Yeah.

731
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,920
As I said one time on this
podcast that that that I suddenly got

732
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,800
in trouble for that. I want
for LB to have a ha phase,

733
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:05,039
like a to experience people, but
for that reason to like, but you

734
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:08,000
know, I I wish, I
mean, I had such a hoe phase

735
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:14,760
that it's very difficult to ever think
like I don't ever have to think like,

736
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,679
oh, I wonder if there's somebody
else out there that's more compatible,

737
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,840
like sample right, right, I've
done the one night stands and the just

738
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,639
like go you know, guy to
guide to guide to like you know,

739
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:29,760
I've had those periods, and it
does teach you, like what you like

740
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,199
and what you don't like, and
how different people are and how different you

741
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,760
know. And I think if you
have if you're like stuck with one person

742
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,760
from the very beginning, how do
you know? How do you it's weird?

743
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,440
I know, if you're being treated
well or not right, you have

744
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:49,239
nothing to compare to, no perspective, right, yeah, and so like

745
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,679
and even just like learning how to
argue, learning conflict resolution, like learning

746
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,880
all the things and learning how different
people argue and how you're like, oh

747
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,840
god, I don't want to be
with a guy that yells and screams and

748
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:02,079
walks out of the room. I
want a guy that's gonna sit and talk

749
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:05,719
things out, like just stupid things
like that. And by the way,

750
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,400
when I say ho phase, it's
not only like just sleeping with random people

751
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:15,880
dating dating, and like not being
in a serial monogamist and especially like even

752
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,559
if you have one other relationship,
I just don't think that's enough to go

753
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,239
like, well, I had one
other boyfriend, but I still like this

754
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,360
one better. It's like you're when
you're young. You I don't know.

755
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,559
Listen, I'm sure some people met
in high school and it were still together.

756
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,239
Yeah, and that's fine. There's
different ways to do everybody exactly.

757
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,079
Some people are different. Some people
really love the security of knowing that they've

758
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:43,320
known that person since high school.
They know who you are and their ride

759
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,079
or die forever. Like actually,
a woman I work with has been with

760
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,119
her husbands in high school and they're
just the cutest, like, and yeah,

761
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,360
works well for that, I guess
for me, I just feel like,

762
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,760
especially having met John a little bit
older, I feel like, well,

763
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,960
I don't need to get back out
there right even when things are really

764
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,800
when they're just so staid and it's
the same old, same old, Like

765
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,320
yes, you know, okay,
but I still know that I prefer that

766
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:14,320
over just like some new person that
I don't know anything about them. I'm

767
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,079
not comfortable, like I like being
I like being comfortable, and I know,

768
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,679
I know I've dated a lot of
people. That's the thing. Now,

769
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,599
you again, having perspective, you
know, the grass isn't greener,

770
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,199
like you know that you never have
to think like, oh my god,

771
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,480
what if? Like what if?
Yeah? Exactly, because you're la girl.

772
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:37,000
I've been out there and it's ugly. Would you find someone it's nice?

773
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,800
Yeah? Yeah, Well I hope
we all got to know Julie a

774
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,199
little better. I heard some stuff
that I hadn't even heard before. And

775
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,960
before we go, let us just
give We have a couple more shout outs.

776
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:53,519
We have Christine b And she's our
She's our storybook World travel dot com.

777
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,280
So go for all of your travel
needs. Why don't you hit up

778
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,039
storybook World Travel. Why don't you? Also every week we do Adam Lerner.

779
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:07,280
Adam's got a car, that's his
website. He can help you figure

780
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,920
out get the best price if you
want a lease, if you want to

781
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,679
buy a used car, buy a
new car. It's free if you live

782
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,320
in anywhere in California. And there
is a fee, but he gives a

783
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,360
discount to fcol listeners for his fee
anyway, and you're not paying anything for

784
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:25,159
him to shop. That's just if
he gets you a car, and then

785
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,599
he's going to get you such a
low rate that it will be worth your

786
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:35,280
while. Also, our friend Marin
has a gift shop on the island of

787
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,719
Kawhai called Sugar Skull. Okay,
they do wedding, they do cakes,

788
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:45,159
wedding cakes, they do all sorts
of gifty stuff. Check them out or

789
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:52,000
go to their Instagram page at Sugar
Skull eight oh eight. And also hold

790
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:59,280
on here, I got Mike Gerstein. So his shout out is he's he's

791
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,880
number one with number two's That does
make me laugh. If you're in Phoenix.

792
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,360
He's a plumber. He's been doing
it twenty years. He can fix

793
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:10,559
anything. He can even fix things
over the phone. If or for all

794
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:15,559
you di wires, if you have
any plumbing issues at all, call Mike.

795
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:20,239
He's he's honest, he's clean.
Yeah, he's polite. Listen,

796
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,760
you know Lynette's one Nut's friends.
So what do you what do you want

797
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,880
to run a background check on One
Nut's frint His phone numbers four eight zero,

798
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:35,079
six nine six one seven seven seven. And if you're a realtor,

799
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,199
he can do the thing where he
runs the camera and the main sewer line

800
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,760
to catch any issues there. So
yeah, check him out. All right,

801
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,880
I think that's it. Thank you
so much, Julius, you so

802
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:49,880
much. Fast I love you.
I'm so happy we've got to come in.

803
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,000
I would have you on regularly,
but you have a job which really

804
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,719
interferes with my life. So thanks
for that, all right, Thank you,

805
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,519
Caitlin, Thank you so much.
Sheila, you're a parent, now,

806
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:07,760
don't hit it up. It's let
ain't go.
