WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:07.400 This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. You know they did 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:10.759 me wrong. They didn't be dirty. Oh, let made me drink. 3 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:15.080 But I'm not a baby. I'm not a kid. And co Holt Marnie 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:19.160 Winfield. Yeah, you can be pretty sure that the decision that you made 5 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:22.320 was the right. One guy kind of paved the way for what was supposed 6 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:27.320 to happen. I feel. It is the eleventh of August to twenty twenty 7 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:30.920 three. My name is Correy Winfield. My name's Marnie Winfield. This is 8 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:34.799 the two seventeen cover podcast, live from Seattle. But we're not even live. 9 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:38.399 We're recorded. But that's fine because we're live when we're doing it right 10 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:42.399 right. Yes, it's very confusing people ask us often is your podcast live? 11 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:47.479 Yeah, kind of, but the most part. Yeah, but nobody 12 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.759 would be tuning in right now. It's coming to you sort of live eight 13 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:55.240 forty on the West Coast, so eleven forty. Yeah, tune in eleven 14 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:57.640 forty on Friday and make sure you're listening. At nobody's gonna do that. 15 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.840 You're to get the podcast. But yeah, we're in seeing and it's been 16 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.680 a minute since we've talked last. Since then, we've been on so many 17 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.560 adventures. I'm glad to say that I'm still alive. Yes, I'm not 18 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:14.159 died yet. No, you have this look in your eye already you're still 19 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.159 going strong. Yeah, this looks she's like, I'm gonna get you. 20 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.920 Got one more day. No, No, he's doing great. It's horrible, 21 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:23.719 but we get to that in justest a minute. We have done so 22 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:30.519 many fun things too, And let's start with we last Okay, so we 23 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:36.760 went to tour the stadium. Do we talk about that already? No? 24 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:42.319 Not even it's last time we checked in. It was Monday, it was 25 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:47.480 we did had just told him about the virtual Wings over Washington and then the 26 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:53.120 okay, so yeah, so let's rewind back to Tuesday. We went to 27 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:59.000 Lumen Stadium, Yes, lumin Field. I still don't know which one. 28 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:04.519 I say is that it's field. I'm pretty sure field where the Seattle Seahawks 29 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.039 play. They play football there. They had a game last night, but 30 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:09.360 we're not talking about that. It was about tuesday. We went on a 31 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:14.759 tour and it wasn't bad. It was twenty five bucks per person. I 32 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:16.080 think that's a reasonable price. It's like an hour and a half long, 33 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.039 and we got to see the stadium some really cool stuff. We got to 34 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.159 go in the press box, and I thought it was really funny because the 35 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:24.280 lady when she was talking about because I asked her, I was like, 36 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:27.400 we're just you know, day night football do their thing. And they're like, 37 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.879 oh, that's in the other room. Because we went to like the 38 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.960 radio room or the journalists, like the media the newspaper people sit the library. 39 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.080 She called it yeah because her body has been quiet in there. And 40 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.199 so then we went to where Monday night football and all the broadcasting stuff does, 41 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.680 and she's like, and here's where Joe Buck and Troy Aikins, that's 42 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:51.280 not his name sits. But when I listened to the Ticket Out of Dallas 43 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.560 favorite radio station in the world, they will have guests on or whatever, 44 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:58.479 and sometimes they're fake and they always call them, Yeah, Troy Aikins, 45 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:02.479 He's just did because they're like what people in the South column sort of achman 46 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.159 Troy Aikins, you know, like just I don't have a hard time with 47 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.919 that last name was So she said that, I kind of like inside like 48 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:14.199 had like a little ticket moment. I'm like, oh, like, that's 49 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:16.039 what they call him, and then another guy asked a question. She was 50 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.360 like, okay, so that's where Troy Aikman sits. And she's like, 51 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.240 oh, yep, that's where Troy Aikman sits. And I was like she 52 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.719 had a hard time with an even Troy Akins sounds so much better. But 53 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.319 it was pretty cool. We got to go to the twelfth Man spot. 54 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:35.960 Yep, like this is where they were used to flag. No. I 55 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.199 did not know that the twelve thing that no no player has number twelve. 56 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:45.319 Yeah, I did not know that. That's why Tom Brady wouldn't play there, 57 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.319 not really, but he probably They probably changed it for him because he 58 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:53.360 was the greatest of all time. I'm just saying, no Man crushed here. 59 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:00.599 So then we went, oh, should we talk about the ride there 60 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:06.039 first? A little bit scary because we talked about scary rides already. The 61 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:11.719 guy almost plowing over that guy. So are you gonna incorporate this into like 62 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:17.800 your top five moments of this trip or okay, we're gonna do top five 63 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:21.639 moments in like bottom five moments or because we didn't want to be negative with 64 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:27.680 it, but it's not so favorite moments. Yeah, Well, this kind 65 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.800 of is on the same note here is that that was kind of like my 66 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:36.079 one of my bottom ish things with the trip is that the ubers were like 67 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:42.439 kind of not the most comfortable situations in the world. I mean, like 68 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:47.319 the rides themselves, and it kind of expensive, you know, to get 69 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:53.600 like five miles away. But it's not even like I'm not willing to walk 70 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.120 five miles, Like that's not even the thing. It's like it would be 71 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.319 five miles. That felt like thirty miles is the problem. Yeah, so 72 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:06.560 there are five miles is equivalent to like wearing on your body thirty miles pretty 73 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:11.040 much. Yeah, and it's not doable, just not doable. Like I 74 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:15.959 could walk five miles around a track probably now can you walk five miles up 75 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:19.639 a hill around the track? And then you don't know where you are because 76 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:25.360 there's so many levels, So you get lost when you're literally like four hundred 77 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:29.160 feet away from something, but it's like not four hundred feet away of steps, 78 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.439 it's like forward moving steps. It's like on a different level of the 79 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:38.040 planet, and you don't know and you can't see it where you're going, 80 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:44.600 and so it's just you just got really frustrated. I wanted to curse pizza. 81 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:48.519 Oh my gosh. He was so it was he was so irritated because 82 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.079 it was it's like a maze and it's not a fun game to play when 83 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:57.920 you just walked eighty thousand miles up a hill carrying food and water for everybody 84 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.279 on the planet, and then you're like okay, and you look at your 85 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.279 phone and it's like, okay, it's just around this corner. And then 86 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.439 you go around the corner and there's a wall and you're like, okay, 87 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.879 so we're going up the hill or down the hill, Like what what level 88 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:15.639 of this hill is this place at? Like I mean, it's like you 89 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:17.720 don't want to commit, like like I think it's down the steps, but 90 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.079 you don't know, but you hate to go down the steps if it's really 91 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:26.360 not, so you keep going down the ramp and then you end up on 92 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.720 another street that doesn't have a way to get down to the level that you 93 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:32.800 need to be on. It was kind of like a trap foot trapped. 94 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:36.319 Yeah. I thought that sounds like she's doing it now, she's got her 95 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:41.279 got her plan. It's come and do that. Fuition or whatever that word 96 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.279 is, I can't say fruition. Yeah, no, it's not it is. 97 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.399 It is how I'm going. Let's go to the gum wall. Like, 98 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:50.920 yeah, let's go to the gum wall. We did, We did 99 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:54.360 see the gum Wall. Weird, but that was a whole different day. 100 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.920 So Tuesday, though, let's go back there and then we'll get into the 101 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.639 rest. So Tuesday we go to lumen Field. That was cool. The 102 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:08.920 the uber driver was awkward. She was from Pakistan, believe, and we 103 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:15.319 get in and she starts like bumping this country music and the guy's like talking 104 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.199 about drinking beer, you know, just a regular old country song. And 105 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.279 You're like, this music is weird, and I'm like, yeah, I 106 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:25.560 know. But she was stereotyping us. You know, this happens too. 107 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:28.000 I know what happens to black people, tyveryone tells me it happens to them 108 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.079 all the time, you know, where people were spill stereotype them, and 109 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.240 people stereotype white people too, you know. And that's what she was doing, 110 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:35.879 you know, Like she's looked at my picture on the uber thing, 111 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:42.199 the Michigan driver's license no maybe or whatever picture I had on my stupid uber 112 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:46.839 thing, and just thought, oh, this white guy fat probably drinks beer 113 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.839 and likes country music. Let's turn out to them from music Little you know 114 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:56.720 him in Recovery and I hate country music, But I Sannathan to her. 115 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.920 I just wanted her to focus on driving because she was having a real hard 116 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:03.560 time. I get it because I used to do uber. Yeah, you 117 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.800 don't always take the route that it tells you. But she kept passing route 118 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.879 after route that was suggested, and I'm like, okay, and she's not 119 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.199 making up time. We're actually losing time. So I was like, okay, 120 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:16.240 well, we gotta make it there. And it was we're supposed to 121 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.519 be there half hour before and it was like a quarter tel. I'm like, 122 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.720 oh shit, Like, are we gonna make this because we got burned 123 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.240 almost on them on the way out here. Yeah, on something like that. 124 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.000 So it's like, okay, well, kind of getting nervous, and 125 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:31.720 then she pulls up. Even though it tells her where the left to go 126 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.320 and it says lumin Stadium, lumin Field whatever. She rolls up to the 127 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:43.960 baseball stadium, which is called like I don't know something else. I don't 128 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.559 know either. But they were I mean, they were very they were there 129 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.360 right next to each other, so it worked out all right, but I'm 130 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.279 like, this isn't that where we're going. It's a good mile down the 131 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.200 road. But because the stadium is so big, yeah, she just like 132 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.879 rolls up in there like it doesn't even say drop your person off here. 133 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:03.320 She's just like, oh, well, here's something big and looks like there's 134 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.320 athletes or something, so this is it. We're like no, no, 135 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.000 no, no, and she's like what since she like halfway goes out into 136 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.600 the road like she's gonna make it, turning like meanwhile, there's construction going 137 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.519 on. This construction guy was looking like this lady's gonna hit me. And 138 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:18.799 you kept telling her no because it looked like she was gonna make it. 139 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:20.399 You ei it did, and You're like, no, go down that rolley? 140 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.879 What what do you do that? You know? And I'm like I 141 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.559 don't know what's going on here. And I just figured if I was talking 142 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.279 to her that would really confuse her. I should put my hand in front 143 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:35.039 of her face. She's like just because like making this like turn around motion, 144 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.240 and you're like, no, down that alley. Oh, And then 145 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.759 construction guy was like, this lad's gonna hit me. I saw him. 146 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.039 He was like, I gotta watch this lady because this is not gonna end 147 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.279 well, so she rolls past him. He jumps out of the way at 148 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:54.320 last minute falls down like this hole and we didn't have time to help him 149 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.879 because we're late for to her, you know. So we got up there, 150 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:58.519 we got out, and everything happened. So I got up me. 151 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:05.360 Some people know hurt, nobody fallen a hoole made it through security, which 152 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.559 is always nice. And the lady who took us around the tour she was 153 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:16.320 really nice too, and it was a good time. After that, where 154 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.360 did we go? Do we go walk some more and we come back? 155 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.039 We went to beneath the streets? Oh no, no, we went to 156 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:31.039 the space Needle. No, we had dropped off at the State Space Needle. 157 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:39.000 Oh, we did beneath the streets. After Limonfield, we walked too, 158 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.000 So we did to the walking. Yeah, I guess we did, 159 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.639 didn't we? Yeah? Yeah, so we did do more walking. That's 160 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:48.320 why I blocked it out of my memory. That's where your brain will do 161 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.080 that if you've been through traumatic experiences sometimes, so I'll just block it out. 162 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.039 Yeah, this was called it was actually the under there's a couple different 163 00:10:54.679 --> 00:11:00.679 I actually I think there's only two different agencies that rent the space is on 164 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:05.960 the underground of Seattle, which we can go into the whole thing. It's 165 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.200 really interesting. This whole city was burned to the ground at one point in 166 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:13.720 history, and so it was rebuilt. They built it up higher because of 167 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.720 the sea level. Blah blah blah. That's that's the short and dirty version. 168 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:20.759 Anyhow, most of it was filled in, the majority of it, 169 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.720 like ninety five percent of all of that was filled in. But there's still 170 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:31.240 some spaces that still exist. Some of them are modeled for use, but 171 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:37.440 not many. And so for whatever reason, these two companies like kind of 172 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:43.799 like a historical society sort of but leases the space underneath the places the buildings 173 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.320 that has not been either filled in or remodeled. That's just like in kind 174 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:54.559 of it's the most I guess original version that could, which means like nothing 175 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:58.360 was done really. I mean, it wasn't filled in, but it wasn't 176 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.440 fixed, but it wasn't but it's still secure to be like, so it's 177 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.879 not going to collapse. And they rent that out to these agencies and then 178 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.120 tourists or what have you can go and walk through and hear the story of 179 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:18.240 of the city, so that was very cool, the underground tour. And 180 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.519 then there was another agent or another place that's called Beneath the Streets. Yeah. 181 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:28.759 I liked that. Yeah, And then we went to eat and then 182 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.399 we came home. I don't remember, no, No, Then we went 183 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:39.080 to Wasn't the same day? Was it? Yeah? Because it was like 184 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.759 my day, wasn't. How do we do Beneath the Streets on my day? 185 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.000 That was crazy because then we went to this other It was like a 186 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:54.799 film festival type thing where they're showing like independent little sketches and films and videos, 187 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.480 and it was pretty cool. At first, it was awkward as shit. 188 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.759 We got the VIP passes because we're vamp people, so we're in the 189 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:09.960 VIP, which doesn't mean anything except we had good seats sort of. People 190 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.159 kept walking in front of us the whole time. Again kind of annoying. 191 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.320 But when we got there, we're the only ones there. I started talking 192 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.919 to this guy take's pictures or something, and I don't know, it was 193 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.360 just awkward. It was it was like at a bar, so like it 194 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.679 it was like a scene that we probably would have been into had we been 195 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:31.960 drinking or smoking weed, you know, back in the day, which made 196 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.919 us feel kind of like not really feel uncomfortable here, not ours, not 197 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.399 what we do anymore. And then we see this lady or you actually pointed 198 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:48.679 out you saw a little merch table and it had or can on it, 199 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.440 same little boxes we had back in Michigan, and you're like, wait what. 200 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.120 I went over there and we started talking to this woman and I'm hoping 201 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.559 and she said she would, but I don't want to have her on the 202 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:07.000 podcast. Her name's Millie Mility Jigamon or something that's maybe you can do better 203 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:18.080 with that. It's quite the name. Wow, that is a She started 204 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:26.480 the Fentanyl United Crisis Coalition, which is fu c C Fentanyale United Crisis Coalition, 205 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.159 that's what the agency is called. And she said she started, and 206 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:37.360 it's Millie jigam In. Yep. She's a founder CEO and she has a 207 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:45.240 she lost a child to us old twenty years old. But her message was 208 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:50.440 really really amazing. She comes from a very real place and a very real 209 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:56.440 perspective. Her messaging is not anywhere close to being like, you know, 210 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:05.840 stop using drugs or drugs are bad. It's more like awareness overdose awareness more 211 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.279 than anything else. And harm reduction, and you know, I think she's 212 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.159 kind of come to terms with the fact that she recognizes that people are going 213 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.879 to do what people are going to do, and she's not trying to judge 214 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:24.080 anybody's lifestyle or decisions or choices, but that most of you know how I 215 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:31.679 don't know percentages, but most overdoses are accidental. Very rarely do people overdose 216 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.000 on purpose. It does happen, it's that is a real thing too, 217 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.679 but very more often than not, it's there was no intention to actually die. 218 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.320 It was just use that they're unaware of what's in it, or they 219 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:50.799 took too much or a handful of things that could go wrong. And her 220 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:56.039 message was very much, you know, be ready, be prepared to save 221 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.440 somebody's life if you need to, Like this is how you this is something 222 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.480 that is out there, and if people are actively using drugs, be prepared 223 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:10.960 to save their life if necessary. Yeah, And it was it was interesting 224 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:12.919 message, and I guess she knew her audience, and I don't know if 225 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:18.120 her message changes through the audience, but the people were there, I would 226 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:22.399 say ninety nine percent of them were on something. Yeah, And the only 227 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:25.240 reason that it was one hundred percent because me, you and maybe this Midley 228 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:29.320 lady were there. I mean, everybody was. I think even the guy 229 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.840 from the from the Department of Health and Human Services. Yeah, it was 230 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.799 st Oh he was some there was something going on and like he I brought 231 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:44.159 up to him about is in marijuana? Yeah, and he was like when 232 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:48.279 heard that? Which is crazy because then fast forward to Thursday night, We're 233 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:49.320 at the comedy club and the comedians up there like, yeah, I just 234 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.559 had some weed, you know, some fentanoline and or whatever, and yeah 235 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.000 he said fenolis push. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, So how 236 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.320 does the guy from the state not ever heard of this? We get comedians. 237 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.799 I mean, it's it's so common that comedians are making jokes about it, 238 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:08.519 you know. So it's like, m wake up, Washington, you're 239 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.279 on notice. Who was that? Or is it who was putting people on 240 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:18.160 notice? It was on the Daily Show? Was it the Late Night Guy? 241 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:23.720 Anyway, I stole that from him. So whatever it was. It 242 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:26.279 was a good time though, and it turned out to be kind of fun 243 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.160 and interesting in watching the films and stuff that people make, and you know, 244 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.640 I'm thinking to myself, like, there's some videos I made that could 245 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.440 have put in there and it would have been just fine. Yeah, but 246 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:42.960 we left at intermission because it was after nine and that means it's after midnight 247 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.359 and we still had to walk home. So I was like, well, 248 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:48.799 we're going to get to get in. I got to talk to the dude 249 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.200 that put it on. I was like, hey, man, thanks for 250 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.720 doing what you do for people who are starting out in the Are you tell 251 00:17:53.759 --> 00:18:00.960 him it was an r VIP bag. We got some popcorn, got a 252 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:07.799 couple of flasks. We got flasks in our VIP bag. We're like, 253 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:11.880 yeah, thanks, but no thanks. He said, did you get the 254 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.279 flasks? We're like, do you not hear the fact that we just said 255 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:22.480 we are people in recovery? But he didn't understand. Yeah, And that's 256 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.000 back to the Millie lady and in her audience, you know, like that 257 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:27.799 was clear her message because she had went up there be like don't do drugs. 258 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:32.000 Drugs you know you guys are would be like off stage, don't come 259 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:36.400 back. But she said, look, I'm not saying don't do drugs. 260 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:40.240 I'm saying do drugs safe. You know, and like people I guess they 261 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.160 do like, oh, give her a finger snaps because they don't lap anymore 262 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:45.960 or something. I don't so behind. Other times I clap because that's what 263 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.920 I do. I don't cancel people. I just don't like them and don't 264 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:52.799 mess with them anymore. Like I don't know, like this whole scene nowadays, 265 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.680 I'm not hipped too, but there's like, yeah, give us some 266 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.640 snaps, give us some snaps. And I think that was a very good 267 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:00.880 approach for that, because if you would have went there, like I said, 268 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.519 with the Corey Winfield method of everybody, put your drugs down, stop 269 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:08.440 doing them, let's make people laugh, it probably wouldn't have worked. But 270 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.240 the fact that she had that approach, you know, it's that audience and 271 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:14.720 they were all like, yeah, do drugs safe, you know, and 272 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.920 she's like, test your stuff and do this and do that, and it 273 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:22.720 was just a different message. But at the same time, it was a 274 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:26.680 message of safety and definitely of like harm reduction, because we don't want people 275 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.319 to dying. And you know, the old school people are like, well 276 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.839 they shouldn't be doing drugs, and well, that's not how it works, 277 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.480 man, And if you have a loved one out there, you don't know 278 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:37.759 what they're gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do at the end 279 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:42.039 of today, you know, like you just never know. So it's better 280 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:47.640 to have them be safe and be educated on what's going on. And yeah, 281 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:52.039 it really makes it really kind of made me think about like we're very 282 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:59.359 biased in our thoughts and feelings about drug and alcohol, right because we know 283 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.240 what it's capable belove in or know we know what how it can just take 284 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.759 you over. Lucky to be alive, Lucky to be alive. Absolutely, 285 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.160 Now that does not mean that there's not people out there that do partake in 286 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:18.640 their drugs and alcohol in a normal way, right, Like they go to 287 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:22.359 a bachelor party in Vegas and they do cocaine or whatever. But they don't 288 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.640 go home and buy cocaine from They don't got a coke dealer at home. 289 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.559 You know, they don't even ever do it. They just happen to partake 290 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.680 in that activity at that time. And there are people like that. Those 291 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:37.880 are people that do that, and that's you know, that's fine, that's 292 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:44.240 their own decisions. And weed is very big here. Well, it wasn't 293 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:49.039 that crowd at least, which has never been my thing. And so, 294 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.960 like I said, I mean it's it's hard for me to wrap my head 295 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:59.319 around that whole the whole concept of that person as me is from coming from 296 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.680 myself, right, is like that being a message that would be like any 297 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:04.599 sort of that I could absorb and be like, okay, like this is 298 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.759 where I'm at. I just need to I just need to learn how to 299 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:14.680 use it safely. That was not something I could do. I couldn't because 300 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:19.319 I am an alcoholic and an addict. And so that being said, that 301 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.880 is not meaning. That's not meaning that those people don't need to hear that 302 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.599 message and that it's not important, because it it is. It really is. 303 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.839 Yeah, I thought so. I thought it was very very cool the 304 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.200 way she did that, you know, and its like we think our strategy 305 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:34.599 is a little bit, but I mean, it's what crowd you're talking to, 306 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:40.359 and that's her message is and kind of she puts on a T shirt, 307 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:48.799 which is very awesome. It's fucc fentnol. So it's clear her message 308 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:53.680 is against that and not hey be clean and sober, Hey don't drink, 309 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.680 k don't do drugs. It's no, no, no, don't do that 310 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.480 one. Make sure you're not dying from that one. And and that's a 311 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.079 that's a very strong message that you know, I hope, I hope for 312 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:07.559 the best, and I hope you know, success happens for and she can 313 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.400 say a lot of lives and at least educate people to talk about it. 314 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:15.400 You know, do you do you remember the other girl it was there that 315 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:21.440 we spoke with briefly and she was basically saying that she was saying that heroin 316 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:26.359 doesn't even exist anymore on the streets. Yeah, that almost everything is fannel 317 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:34.960 or something else, that it's not heroin. Yeah, yep, that's what 318 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:41.640 she said, at least here, but it's it's drugs man. They're are 319 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.440 aware. But we'll have a million on the podcast. You have to be 320 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.839 on that with with this on here. So from there, you know, 321 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.200 like I said, it was good night, walked back home, went bad. 322 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:56.680 Then when did we go to the space Needle? Was it the next 323 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.440 day or do we already talk about the space Needle? I think it was 324 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:06.079 the next day or was this video before? I don't know. It's a 325 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:14.759 big border, hills and sweat, like where was it the gum wall when 326 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.039 we walked back from I don't think that was the same day as my day 327 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:25.000 I think that that's confused because we went to the Okay, that was the 328 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:26.559 Okay, let's talk about the aquarium, all right. First of all, 329 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:32.400 let's talk about a quariums in general. Don't go to them. It's time. 330 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.480 That's not true. Let the school take the kids. There's a reason 331 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:37.920 why you send to your kids to school, so that they can take them 332 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.279 out field trips. That way, you don't have to because they're whoa, 333 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.240 Marty, here's your mouth open, like whoa. We did not just say 334 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:49.680 that just speaking Corey Windfield is ms over here. I'm just saying there was 335 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:55.759 so many other people's kids there it was driving me nuts. Other people's kids, 336 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.160 man, I just there when you've got a bunches of them and oodles 337 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.079 and oodles of them. It's not even school time. You tell me what's 338 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:07.079 going on. Boys and Girls Club was there every every I'm not gonna lie. 339 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:10.000 It was not a good experience. That does not mean I'm sure it's 340 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:14.240 not a great aquarium. It is and it's not. I don't know if 341 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:15.079 you can even say, like if you've been to one, you've been to 342 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:21.039 them all. I've been to a lot of aquariums in my life and it's 343 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:26.160 it's I bet you if there was half the amount of people slash children in 344 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:30.319 the in the space, it would have been more enjoyable because like literally you 345 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:36.200 walk in and it was lunchtime and there was children. Like the whole carpet 346 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:41.680 was just full of kids, like sitting like cross legged, eating their bag 347 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.680 sandwiches or standing right in your way with sandwich all their face. It's there 348 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:51.000 was children everywhere, and nothing is kids. It was just like there was 349 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:56.200 so it was everything. Then there's the people, the counselors or camp counselors 350 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.839 or whatever, like all yelling at the children trying to like round them up, 351 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.359 and so it was not an enjoyable time at all. It was like 352 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.519 kind of like, let's get through this as best we can and say we 353 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:11.680 did it. I liked the sea otters. They had like two seatters and 354 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.240 they were cleaning the cage. They moved on this other thing. They were 355 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.720 so cute. Yeah, it just was not I wouldn't recommend it. I 356 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:26.759 would say just skip that and go do something else, because yeah, it 357 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.519 wasn't that that great. And then we walked all the way across town up 358 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:37.920 about sixteen hills equivalent to eighteen point six miles into the Mathema phone to the 359 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.400 art museum. Yes, so we walked to this art museum, this hoity 360 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:51.759 toity pristine art museum. I'm drenched and just sweat from everywhere, and I 361 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.880 get there. My back's hurt, and I mean, it's just like, 362 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.559 come on, man, like this is crazy. And we go through that, 363 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.200 and then that's where we're gonna go find the pizza place. Let's find 364 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:08.839 this pizza place and let me see it was cool though, it was all 365 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:15.200 right. Yeah, I enjoyed that, you know, it's all right within 366 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:19.279 the pizza place, like that excursion was. It was totally like just like 367 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:23.720 imagine you're just standing there in line for something this somebody just comes up and 368 00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.720 hit you in the back of the head with a bat. That is the 369 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:32.400 equivalent of searching for this pizza place. Like if you give me options, 370 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:36.279 I'm like, I don't know which one i'd runner do. Screw it. 371 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:41.240 But it was hell man, And then we're just like, effort, let's 372 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.000 go home. We ran through the gum wall by accidents pretty much like, 373 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.519 yeah, let's get some pictures. That's cute. Let's let's get out of 374 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.359 here. And we were walking home and I was like, man, I 375 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:52.559 think I said on the way home, and yet maybe I didn't it. 376 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.440 It's like all I need to do is just be eating a fish sandwich right 377 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:02.519 now, because like here's everything I hate. Hate, being hot, the 378 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:08.039 other people's kids, my back hurts, yeah, and some there was like 379 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.240 four or five other things. It was like everything I hate it, I 380 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.279 might you might as well just give me a fish fish sandwich. I'll be 381 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:21.200 good to really complete the trifecta, just the stuff I hate. It was 382 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:26.720 wonderful time to be hate non stuff. Yeah. So I started to bumm 383 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:33.680 me out seat. I don't but it was horrible. Then we ended up 384 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.640 the next day, I think, going to the comedy show and we went 385 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:42.160 to someplace elsewhere. Was that at yesterday? Was it just eating the comedy 386 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:48.480 show? We stayed we were in the room for most of the day. 387 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.680 Yeah, it's beautiful. A body needed to rest. We're going to go 388 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.759 to the Museum of Pop Culture, but we didn't. We're doing that today. 389 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.640 Yeah, Yeah, so it was. It was weird. So the 390 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:06.160 top bottom five things like the Hills for me is definitely a bottom number one. 391 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.799 The museum was not fun. That was probably the bottom number two. 392 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:18.960 The bottom of three would be the uber drivers that just we got honked at. 393 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:26.359 It's just been scary. We didn't meet the guy from China on the 394 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.440 way to dinner last night, on the way to the comedy show, wasn't 395 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:36.880 it. I thought he took us to dinner, did he? Oh? 396 00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.519 Maybe, No, he took us to comedy show. Yeah, see parked 397 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.880 there and we got out across the street. But yeah, yeah, that 398 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.319 guy was from China. He was He was pretty interesting and it was pretty 399 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:52.720 fun talking with him. Yeah, telling us his story a little bit lumin 400 00:28:52.799 --> 00:29:03.759 filled for me. That tour was pretty fun. Going to you know, 401 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.759 the Space Needle was pretty cool. The comedy show last night. There were 402 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.759 some good comedians up there. But the best part of that was like looking 403 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.880 over at you and watching you smile and laugh. That was that was. 404 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.680 That was so fun, just to see you laugh and being so cute. 405 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.279 That was. That was awesome. I was worth every minute of it. 406 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.640 Even though they're picking on me, like clapping, They're like any ugly guys 407 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:26.960 here. So I started clapping a little bit, but half ass laps. 408 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.319 So the one guy started kind of ripping into me, and then the other 409 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.680 guy was asking me because something came up on my phone I had to pay 410 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:40.000 attention to. And he's like, we were in the front, like one 411 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.880 of the front rows, and Corey's on his phone texting was very apparent, 412 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.720 apparent everyone behind us is seeing him, just not paying attention. Yeah, 413 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.839 because this guy, he wasn't funny. I just it was better than like 414 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.079 just walking out. He's just talking about how he was gay and how already 415 00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.000 thought he was gay, he tried being gay. And then he asked me 416 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.200 if I watched gay porn and I was like no, and he's like why 417 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.160 not. I was like, I don't know. Never crossed my mind, 418 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.640 man, Like why I don't know, Like I'm sure how to answer that? 419 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.160 Dude, like, you're not funny? Can I tell some jokes for 420 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.000 you? Let me give me your pen real quick, let me write something 421 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:18.039 for you. So I should have said, well, I've enjoyed it. 422 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.839 I thought it was funny. Guy wasn't. But yeah, but other than 423 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:25.480 that, though, the poncho guy, he was really funny. Yeah, 424 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.559 some really funny lines. But yeah, so that was really a good time. 425 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.799 Like I said, just seeing you laugh. And I think I liked 426 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:37.319 it because they're like, they're not famous people, and they all have like 427 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.960 other things that they do. You know, this is probably just like a 428 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.039 side thing that they they enjoyed to do. I mean we paid next to 429 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:52.319 nothing to go. It was not even and I think our bar tab if 430 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.240 you want to college was six dollars coffee. Coffee is in a pop. 431 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.279 Yeah, that's crazy. So I mean it's not like they're raking it in. 432 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.759 And they were all like around and available afterwards if he wanted to talk 433 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:08.599 to him or whatever. So I mean I kind of did like acknowledgement head 434 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:12.200 non kind of thing like good job or whatever. But so the guy that 435 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.240 said, hey, before you have sex with him again, make sure he 436 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.839 wasn't born. No, No, the one, the guy with the long 437 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.400 hair with the glasses that looks kind of funky, Yeah it was. We 438 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.039 They were all just wearing like crazy, goofy, like regular street clothes. 439 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.720 Like you would not been able to tell if you lined everybody up and was 440 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:30.799 like, who are the people that are going to be on stage night? 441 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.519 You would not pick. You would not know who to pick. But I 442 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.519 mean, guess they do it because they like it. So that's why I 443 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.240 really enjoyed it. That's the kind of like the kind of thing I really 444 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.640 like. I was wondering too, if they have bets with each other, 445 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.960 because like I was thinking, like the whole time, like, man, 446 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.039 this would be funny if we got Justin and Adam and Mitch on stage and 447 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.240 we like all gave each other a ship to say, kind of like the 448 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.160 two seventeen game. You know, we're the Asian guy he had to like 449 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.599 shave his head, but not all the way like just here aunt here, 450 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:05.559 an here, aunt, Like you gotta shave your head and make up a 451 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.680 story about it, or you gotta talk about hooking up old women because that 452 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.799 would be fun and just get up there and just make shit up, just 453 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:16.240 tell stories that are funny. Yeah, we should do that. Yeah, 454 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.480 that's it was. That was on one of my top things that we did. 455 00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:22.759 I'm not going to veer towards that. I think we covered enough of 456 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:30.960 the negative stuff. My biggest plus for this trip would be the views in 457 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.680 general. We I mean, I know, for you guys know from the 458 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.319 first podcast if you didn't hear that we are our original room did not have 459 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.119 the view that we have for the duration of the trip. But it is 460 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:50.839 the most breathtaking view of like the city, the Bay. It's amazing. 461 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.359 And then that combined with what we've seen from this, you know, the 462 00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:00.720 space Needle and even just driving back from the comedy club last night and the 463 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.880 Uber, I was like, this is gorgeous. It's a beautiful skyline for 464 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.440 sure. Yeah. So that's like one of the total pluses that I think. 465 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:13.200 And then we've been able to try a couple different restaurants and not all 466 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:17.680 have been a plus. Is kind of been like circumstantial, like this is 467 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.599 where you're at, what's near here kind of deal. Yeah, and so 468 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.920 but we we worked with what we got and then you know, plus we 469 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.960 don't know where you are. The more options you have, the more difficult 470 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.400 is to like look up the best whatever in Seattle, and then you end 471 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.839 up with like forty five places and you're like, well, you know, 472 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.119 they're not all the best, and what is one person's best means and other 473 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.079 person's not best? Obviously, because the piece of place we finally ended up 474 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.759 making it too yesterday was a flap. Yeah that was two days ago. 475 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:54.000 Two days ago. Yeah it was not good, was it? Yes? 476 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.880 It was two days ago. Yeah, you're right. I had the name 477 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.400 of it, but just through the street receded away because I was gonna rate 478 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:05.400 them on Google, and I thought, that's just not nice because the pizza 479 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.840 was it was not cooked like it was was it bambinos or something like that. 480 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:15.440 It was horrible. It's just horrible. It's like you want to box 481 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.079 and we're like no, like clearly, like the topics were like picked off, 482 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.840 like she could tell we didn't like it. I mean it was it 483 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.000 was not good. So that just kind of led me to believe like, 484 00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.480 Okay, well, see I don't They're not really known for their pizza. 485 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:32.280 They're known for fish and stuff, so they just don't cook pizza. Well 486 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.880 yeah, so, but we haven't had a couple of different We had some 487 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:44.480 Thai food at a restaurant that was interesting, that was good, and then 488 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:52.039 we had Mediterranean before we went on our tour. Underneath the streets, we 489 00:34:52.159 --> 00:35:01.000 saw there was a couple homeless people that definitely had and this is my view, 490 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:07.039 there was a radio broadcaster professional opinion they had mental problems. Like they 491 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.960 didn't look like they were on drugs, they didn't look like they were drunk. 492 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.880 They just look like they had mental problems. Was that caused by the 493 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.199 drugs or alcohol? I don't know, but it just kind of made me 494 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.840 sad, like there's a society we just give up on these people. But 495 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.280 I mean, you can't really tackle them and take them away. Come to 496 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.679 take you away. We're coming to take you away. I can't really do 497 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.119 that to them, can't we? You know, they would be safer, 498 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:38.679 I'm sure, But no, there's I mean, as as somebody who does 499 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:45.280 have some formal education on mental illness, I can tell you that there was 500 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:57.360 definitely some some individuals that were suffering from schizophrenia, maybe bipolar, but uh, 501 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:02.239 yeah, it was pretty sad. And like you said, whether there 502 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:07.840 is any of that is substance related, very well, could be, but 503 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:15.559 probably a lot of them not so much. Yeah, it's like, where's 504 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:20.920 their Well, the one older blacke gentleman that was talking to everybody on the 505 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.280 the tour that we were on as we were walking the streets, like, 506 00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.400 I mean, I wouldn't say where's his mom and dad because they're probably not 507 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.199 on the earth, no war, But the one lady that was sitting there 508 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:36.119 like yelling at people before the tour, She's just sitting in the park on 509 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:42.360 the concrete, just yelling. And this is an intermittently between her talking, 510 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.400 she's talking to herself as well at the same time. So lots of mental 511 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.880 I mean serious mental health. I'm not really sure how that's handled. It's 512 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:55.159 sad to see. You know, there was a one gentleman that was literally 513 00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:02.559 walking down the street with his pants at his ankles, and I don't Yeah, 514 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.840 he had no idea, Like that's where it's like a safety thing, 515 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.719 you know what I mean, that's where my concern is. It's like not 516 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:14.559 so much that he's going to harm anybody else, but like he could walk 517 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:19.239 in front of a car easy. I mean, he had no real I 518 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.199 don't even know if he knew where he was. Should we have like stops 519 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.960 and hey, buddy, let's get them pants up. No, absolutely, 520 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:30.519 I mean that's not I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that, you know, because 521 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.159 they're unpredicted, that's unpredictable and you don't know, you know, he needs 522 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.679 help, absolutely, But you would think that the city and maybe they do. 523 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.239 Maybe they do kind of redirect them towards. Maybe there's shelters and things 524 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:46.400 that can they can decide if people need to be you know, hospitalized or 525 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.559 if that's a thing. I don't know. And a lot maybe a lot 526 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:53.719 of those people are not willing, you know, I don't know, but 527 00:37:54.599 --> 00:38:02.360 it's a sad thing to see. And one lady was like putting like handfuls 528 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.039 of and it was baby powder. I saw it. It was for real, 529 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.440 like out of the little squirt thing with the holes at the top, 530 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.440 like put baby powder like in her hand and then all over her face. 531 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:20.159 Powder, baby baby powder, baby powder, like squirt it in her hand, 532 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.000 a big thing in her hand, and then put it all over her 533 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.400 face. The lady that had the headphones on. Yeah, and then one 534 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.239 lady had a half gallon of milk just chilling in the sun and like a 535 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:35.400 half bag of ramen noodles open with like a blanket over her face. Lane 536 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:40.760 on the bench. Yeah. It's just really like could we come out and 537 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.840 say, look, we need to build a big shed. These people need 538 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.400 to go there, and we need to help them there, you know, 539 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.800 like not just throwing in a shed and locked the door. But like, 540 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.000 is it okay to take these people somewhere because it has to be better than 541 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.119 what they're living right now? Right Well, the thing is too is a 542 00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.840 lot of the people that have those male health issues. I mean, medications 543 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.800 can help them be able to function, but you know, they need to 544 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.320 be assessed, they need to make sure they're you know, they're clean if 545 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.880 they are using anything. But those people look like they had not a penny 546 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.079 to their name, so I mean, it's not even like they were any 547 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.679 sort of kind of functional addict. I don't even know if they could even 548 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:29.039 They were not even even begging. No, Like that's the crazy part. 549 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.800 I don't know. It was just weird. Yeah, anyway, that's Seattle 550 00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.280 and the nutshell, but it was. It was a pretty good city, 551 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:43.239 though. I like it. I don't think I can move here the time 552 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.320 being three hours behind, and then, you know, I couldn't even imagine 553 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:52.719 in four hours behind when the time changes, like like that's crazy, man, 554 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.920 three hours behind, because what time is it now here, I don't 555 00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.599 know, nine twenty, so it's twelve, and you think, oh, 556 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.280 okay, that's not too bad. But the next thing, you know, 557 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.480 you look up and it's five o'clock there and you're like, oh, the 558 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.800 day is just kind of wrapping around to the Nope, everything's done. People 559 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.559 are gone home, you know, and we've noticed that a lot of especially 560 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:16.079 around where we're staying, a lot of the places they do close early six 561 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:21.039 seven o'clock, and I think people here go to bed earlier. Yeah, 562 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.239 I don't think they're out late. It's weird us. You're going for lunch 563 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.159 and or even breakfast and there's a baseball game on. You're like, oh, 564 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.880 that's the game from last night, and you're like, no, no, 565 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:31.559 nope, that's the game from right now. What's happening in New York? 566 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.719 And it's just like wait what? Huh. It's just very, very 567 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.960 confusing, and I can't wait to get back to the Eastern time zone where 568 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:44.119 it's normal. I know, I'm as home. If you grew up here, 569 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:45.719 I guess it wouldn't be that bad. But when you are like, 570 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.400 wait a minute, like we got to get on the all the same time, 571 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.119 it's like all the cool people in the country, it's like wait what. 572 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.000 And the Central time zone is probably one of my favorites because you don't 573 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.920 have to wait as long, you know, for your TV shows to come 574 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:00.639 on, for your football to come on. Really, that's why you decide 575 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:07.559 that a whole entire living in an entire time zone would be beneficial because you 576 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.960 could base your TV time on it. Yeah, wow, Ball was on 577 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:17.000 it new not one that's ridiculous. It's great. I lived in like Arkansas 578 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:22.079 and Texas or whatever. Like, I wasn't that far off of the time 579 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.480 zone, so it really was like not that much of a thing, except 580 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:34.840 all my shows came on at a little earlier, and okay, I didn't 581 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:40.400 stay light is long, but that's fine because Survivor came out at seven eight. 582 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.880 But now we don't even watch TV like that anymore, so probably wouldn't 583 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.079 matter. But yeah, so thanks for listening. We'll do another whole episode 584 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.800 on time zones later, but I just wanted to throw them in there as 585 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.280 one more thing about Seattle that was kind of not off putting, but just 586 00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.400 weird. So thanks for tuning in. We're gonna post pictures and some videos 587 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.960 and stuff too of our trip. It took some really great pictures. Yeah, 588 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:08.960 and overall it was a really good time. It really was. Just 589 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:14.079 be prepared if you're ever gonna come to Seattle. There's cool a people here. 590 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.119 Yeah, you're gonna want to stay on the waterfront, but just keep 591 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.400 in mind there's hills her time, so look up where you're gonna stay and 592 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.920 make sure all this stuff is right down the street, not up the street, 593 00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:30.320 down the street, all right, Thanks for listening. Thanks everybody, 594 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:36.239 have a good night. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. 595 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.920 When a bunch of free from two seventeen Recovery, go to the app on 596 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:46.679 the website two seventeen recovery dot com