WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.360 A bill was recently introduced by the leader of the Arizona State Freedom Caucus to 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:09.960 ban any representation honoring Satan from being placed on state public property. The bill 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:15.400 pass and committee despite opposition. Now Senator Juan Mendez defended the Satanic temple, 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.600 highlighting their value of compassion and justice, something Christians seem to have in a 5 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:25.039 short supply these days. Senator Jake Hoffman argued that Satanism cannot be considered a 6 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:30.640 religion, as satan is antithetical to religion. The bill passed the committee vote 7 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:35.560 in a center advance for further consideration on the chamber floor. So stay tuned 8 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:40.840 for more Christo fascist attempts to rewrite our laws into a theocracy. This story 9 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:46.479 comes from Arizona Capital Times by Hannah Elsmore on February nine, twenty twenty four. 10 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:50.280 And Jonathan, I'm sure you have plenty to say about this time. 11 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:56.840 Oh yeah, Respect, which is the name they at the acronym they gave 12 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:06.120 for this stands for reject escalating Satanism by preserving essential core traditions. You know, 13 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:10.359 the bill has a title that shows little respect for anything other than their 14 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:15.560 brand or religion. But I have a mixed review of this as the senator 15 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.920 in Arizona has one argument that almost holds water until you look at it closely. 16 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:25.120 He mentions that this is not a religious liberty issue, as we can't 17 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:30.519 put Ten Commandments in schools. This just extends it for Satan only in parentheses. 18 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:38.560 That's my to all government property. Okay, And if you didn't see 19 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:45.280 the problem with that first, it would not need to be banned, as 20 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.519 it falls under the same rules already. It is a religion. According to 21 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:57.719 the IRS, government buildings cannot display religious displays that support or can be interpreted 22 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:05.560 to mean governmental support of any religion that includes them. So you can't. 23 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.599 You can't do this. So this is a This is a nothing built. 24 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:14.680 This is a media stunt. This is a stunt that he gets to say, 25 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:20.479 See how I'm protecting your morals and your your philosophy of life. Well, 26 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:27.520 excuse me, there's one small issue. Satan doesn't exist except in Abrahamic 27 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:32.599 religions. Therefore, why do you hate it. Your religion can't exist without 28 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:37.879 it, you know. So you know, it's just like without that dichotomy, 29 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.599 everything you're trying to do kind of falls flat. So you know, 30 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:47.280 I'm just like an absolute almost amused if it wasn't so dangerous, you know, 31 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:53.240 I can I can tell you that, you know, tst will end 32 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:59.479 up in a lawsuit and it will get overturned if they do pass this, 33 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.560 and I have no doubt they will, because this is all a publicity stunt 34 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.680 for the GOP and how they're going to in an election year. They're going 35 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.479 to rile up their base so that they can get more votes. What they 36 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:16.199 don't realize is their base is less than forty percent of the population. So 37 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:21.400 if they keep catering to their base, they're going to lose all the independence 38 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.520 and all the middle of the road Republicans and they're going to be left with 39 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:30.800 that twenty five and that's it. You can't win an election that way. 40 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:38.120 And this comes from somebody who has run elections before, but anyway, that's 41 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.319 the first things I have to say. So I'm going to pass this back 42 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:47.280 to Scott and sure if he has some more before I get into another brand. 43 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.800 The Respect Act, right, you said, that's what you said. 44 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.039 They call it the Respect Act. And when I hear them, I hear 45 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.840 Aretha Franklin. Right. I won't sing it. I won't sing it. 46 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:03.319 Don't worry about that, because, of course we all know Aretha Franklin was 47 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.439 a total Satanist back in the day. No I made that up. I 48 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:11.639 made that up totally. But it makes just as much sense as the real 49 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.879 name of the bill, right, Jonathan, you were mentioning reject escalating Satanism, 50 00:04:15.160 --> 00:04:19.560 and this part is the cool part. By preserving essential core traditions, 51 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:25.920 preserving essential court traditions, like, for example, the First Amendment, okay, 52 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:30.360 because they're tossing that out, that would be an essential core tradition, 53 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.759 I think, but they're not preserving it. They're throwing it out oddly. 54 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:38.879 As you mentioned. They're also arguing that Satanism is not a religion because satan 55 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.879 is antithetical to religion. So if it's not a religion, then it should 56 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.920 be okay, right. If it's not a religion, then that's an argument 57 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:50.920 to allow this kind of thing to happen. But Senator Hoffman, sorry, 58 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:57.279 State senator said that it does not defy the First Amendment because the bill would 59 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.120 still allow for freedom of speech and assembly, saying, well, you still 60 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.519 have your you don't have your freedom of religion, but we still have freedom 61 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:08.360 of speech and assembly and you know, I'm thinking, wait, so we 62 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.959 can satisfy a lodge just by satisfying part of it now, because I know 63 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.759 it's been a while since I've coveted my neighbor's ox, So am I covered 64 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:20.160 for the Ten Commandments there? I don't know, It's just it's a silly 65 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:25.600 thing. But I will say this that the Arizona State Sun Devils are in 66 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:30.560 for an expensive rebranding in their near future, and I have a suggestion for 67 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:36.040 a new mascot for them. Anyway, I'm sorry, I'll pass this on, 68 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:40.560 Infidel. What do you have to add to that? I think you're 69 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.279 exactly right when you talked about well, if it's not a religion, then 70 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.319 great, what's your objection moving right along? Because that means we need to 71 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.680 keep your Ten Commandments out and let's go ahead and bring Satan nin if that's 72 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:55.480 the case. But the truth is is, I do disagree because Satan is 73 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.439 very much a religious character, and if you really read your Bible in the 74 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:03.319 beginning, Satan is an employee of God. He's not some big, bad 75 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:08.079 guy who's on top doing all these things. He in the Book of Job. 76 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.959 He actually has answers to God. He's He's on God's board meeting so 77 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.680 very much so a religious figures. And I did notice, he said Hoffman, 78 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.199 Jake Kaufman. I kept calling him Jack because I think I was in 79 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:27.920 my minds thinking Jack hoff Jack off. But he said, it is a 80 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.920 great desecration of public property in Arizona. We have more respect for our public 81 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:38.720 property and for the people who call Arizona home than to have Satanic altars and 82 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:43.680 displays on public property. You know, bravo, because I have more respect 83 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:48.040 for the people of Arizona, because I am completely fine with not having Satanic 84 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:54.319 altars on public property. I'm perfectly fine with not having Christian symbols represented on 85 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:58.079 public property. And because you know what, they've got a place to do 86 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:03.920 that. That's called church, and sure that's perfect. But what they want 87 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:10.680 is they want their symbols and their religion pushed to the forefront, while anything 88 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:15.480 that may come against that to be pushed down. But then again, mister 89 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:20.519 Hoffman does have some issues with the truth. I do find it ironic that 90 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:26.639 he picked one of the few characters in the Bible who consistently spoke the truth, 91 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:30.160 who was honest. The character was a truthful guy. Now about Jay 92 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:36.199 Kaufman, though, this is a guy who, in his moral sanctimoniousness, 93 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:41.560 tried to file paperwork as a fake elector. This is a guy who ran 94 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:47.439 a group called runs a group called rally Forge who trolled fake using fake democratic 95 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:53.160 accounts during the election for Turning Point Action, which is part of the Turning 96 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:58.120 Point America group. So I mean he was actually even removed from Facebook after 97 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:03.839 the fact his group because they were hiring teenagers in the area to essentially troll 98 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.639 as liberal Democrats, to turn people off and to try to swing the middle 99 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:13.279 vote. So, when it comes down to honesty and what is best, 100 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:18.560 I say this, I have more respect for the people in Arizona who call 101 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.839 it home than to them that to deal with some liar like Jay Kaufman. 102 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:26.519 Now, as we said, the bill did pass. Now this isn't going 103 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.079 anywhere, at least not this time. It passed committee. It passed committee, 104 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:35.000 Yes, passed committee. But this is going to I do think this 105 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:39.120 is going to ultimately pass the state legislature. But when it gets going to 106 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.879 be contested and it's never going to actually achieve anything that they think it's going 107 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:50.000 to because once again, as Jonathan said, this is just a plan and 108 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.879 a method to whip up the base, to get people all emotional to think, 109 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:58.120 oh my god, Satan's invading everything. You know, let's chicken little, 110 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:03.240 the sky's fall. Let's go ahead and vote so we don't get Satan 111 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.480 everywhere, because you know, we might get somebody that Satan on us if 112 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.120 we don't do that. But I did notice that the guy, the senator 113 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.840 who opposed it said, this proposal isn't even a dog whistle. It is 114 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:18.720 straight up an attack on religion. He is literally trying to rerase an entire 115 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:20.960 religion. And that's what he's doing because at the end of the day, 116 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.080 it's as we said many times, it's not about religious freedom. It's about 117 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.519 religious freedom. And there's a little asterisk next to them, and that means 118 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.399 for me. And we see this time and again, and this is just 119 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:41.320 another example of this happening once more. So this will go somebody will end 120 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.360 up paying some money because we've seen this before with the Satanic temple contesting and 121 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:52.799 bringing things to court, and they the other side loses consistently because it is 122 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.000 a losing issue because all they're trying to do is shut the people up. 123 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.320 They don't agree with and with that, I'm going to shut up Jonathan promises, 124 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:09.320 promises. But anyway, the yeah, I don't think they're they're really 125 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.559 trying to shut them up. They know what's going to happen. They're just 126 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:15.879 doing this as a political stunt to get their name in the paper. You 127 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:18.120 know. Just spell the name right. Doesn't matter what you say, as 128 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.639 long as you get the press, you know, And that's pretty much it. 129 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:28.879 This state senator needs to to keep his position on the on the board 130 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:35.960 of Extreme Christians in order to keep his his status in the extreme fascist, 131 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:41.720 crystal fascist world. And he's gone way extreme to the point where most people, 132 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.399 even in his religion, are going, I don't know if I want 133 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.559 to be associated with this guy, but you know, and if he's if 134 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.200 you need people to push you out of religion, there you go. You 135 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:56.000 see somebody like this, and you're going you've not read the first couple of 136 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:01.679 sentences of the First Amendment, have you? Yes? You know about establishment 137 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.519 of religion? You know that, now, I guess not. Okay, 138 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:09.960 go read it. It's a ubound to read. Uh, just read the 139 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.360 Ten Commandments, you know, No, just read the Ten Amendments, you 140 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:18.480 know. So you know, it's just like I just I shake my head 141 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.080 in the ignorance of people, the ignorance of history, the ignorance of American 142 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.639 politics. You know. Uh, you know, if you mentioned Detokeville, 143 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.120 everybody kind of the eyes glaze over, you know, and you're sitting there 144 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.120 going, Okay, I guess I'm not going to talk about that today, 145 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.679 mainly because they just won't listen. As soon as you say anything that doesn't 146 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.960 fit with their worldview, their ears their eyes glaze over and their ears closed. 147 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.240 And that's it, you know. So I don't have anything more to 148 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.000 tell these people except for your idiots, wake up, smell the coffee. 149 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.639 You know. It's like they're just not going to go, you know. 150 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:03.600 And so I think that once we get rid of these this kind of power 151 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:09.440 seeking and put some rules in place about who can say what in the media, 152 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.000 uh, you know, as far as falsehoods, then maybe we'll get 153 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.559 someplace or you know, I understand free speech and all that, but lying 154 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:26.399 to people that causes harm is not free speech, so you know, and 155 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.159 so there, you know, I know I said it, I said the 156 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.559 silent power out loud. But you know that's fine, you know, get 157 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:41.440 over yourselves. People. The Satanic Temple has done a lot of really great 158 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.720 work, and you are going to lose. You will lose in court. 159 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:48.879 The Supreme Court will not even hear it because if they outlaw one religion, 160 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.279 it kind of sets a precedent. So you know, and with the majority 161 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:58.759 of them being Catholics, and you know, they're probably not going to pass 162 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:05.360 any at any laws pass that discriminated against any religion because remember once that starts 163 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:11.639 your next So wake up, smell the coffee, get right with your constitution, 164 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.559 and stop being a dick and Scott good advice for all of us. 165 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:24.799 I think. But Jonathan, you were saying before that that this Senator Hoffman, 166 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:31.639 sorry State Senator Hoffman, represents a kind of a minority, and that 167 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.879 you said something about how his base is shrinking, so to speak. You 168 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.879 know, I don't want to get too personal here, but but but you 169 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:45.279 know, but the fact is the fact is that he was in fact elected, 170 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:50.440 and that he campaigned openly on these principles, and so there even if 171 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:56.840 there is a minority of people that are supporting these particular views, I think 172 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.279 an argument could be made and and and I'll pose this as a question into 173 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.039 both of you. Do you think that this is a reasonable argument that he 174 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:09.960 is in fact representing his constituency. He was he because he campaigned on issues 175 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.279 just like this, and so he's he's basically following through on what he promised 176 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.600 and they elected him to do that. Does that mean that he is Is 177 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.679 he doing his job here? Is he representing his constituency? Infidel? What 178 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.759 are your thoughts on then? I think that one thing that people forget and 179 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:33.039 overlook when we're having having a representation in government, Sometimes that representation doesn't mean 180 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.799 doing what the people who elected you want you to do. Sometimes it boils 181 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:41.840 down to doing things they don't want you to do because it's the wrong thing. 182 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.200 So he might be representing the people that voted for him, but he's 183 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:52.039 not representing the self interests of his state and he's not representing the Constitution. 184 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:58.519 And Jonathan mentioned earlier about read to Constitution. Yeah, that's a quick read. 185 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.600 What I'd really like Christians ado though, is read your damn Bible, 186 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:07.559 because I don't think there's anything out there that pokes holes in Christianity as we 187 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:13.919 know it better than their own book. So go ahead and do that. 188 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.120 Read your Bible. Read the Constitution. But at the end of the day, 189 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:24.320 it's his responsibility to represent the country well in his the state and and 190 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.440 they're in the Constitution as well. And when he strays from that, I 191 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:33.639 think he's lost lost course. He's he's way off course of what he should 192 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:37.200 be doing. I don't care if everybody in Arizona thinks that's a great idea. 193 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.840 You're you promise you you took an oath to uphold the laws of this 194 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:48.039 country, and what he is doing is the exact opposite of the laws of 195 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.480 this country. So I think he's being the opposite. But you know, 196 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:58.159 then again, I'm a godless heathen, so what do I know? Well, 197 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:00.080 indeed, let me let me let me jump in here, Jonathan, 198 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.600 I have a question for you. You were you were saying about you were 199 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.799 talking before about the Satanic Temple. I mean, we know that they can 200 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.279 often be intentionally provocative right there. The whole goal of the organization is to 201 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:17.919 draw attention to this kind of hypocrisy that we see in this religious bias, 202 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:22.000 and and and and especially when it comes to legislation and that kind of thing. 203 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.200 So would you consider this a win for the Satanic Temple and If so, 204 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.519 how how can they build on this? What can they where can they 205 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:34.320 take this? I think that they they won't be a win until they take 206 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:41.960 it to court. But I think that their advocate in the State Senate was 207 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:51.519 fairly eloquent in his defense of of the TST and he brought them into the 208 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:56.720 meeting, and every Republican on the in the meeting split when they saw the 209 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.480 Satanic temple people in her So they are scared to death of this, and 210 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:06.119 that's their belief system. And I think that just because he was elected, 211 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:10.799 he took an oath. You take an oath before they're God. And wouldn't 212 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:15.079 he be a little pissed if you broke that oath to support and defend the 213 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.920 Constitution of the United States. I don't know, guys. You know, 214 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:23.319 any sin is a sin that is going to get you damned. Sorry, 215 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:27.839 he doesn't say what degree of sin. There is no categoration. It is 216 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:33.079 you insulted God. It doesn't matter if alls you did was spitting the sidewalk 217 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.640 or you murdered somebody. In God's eyes, supposedly they're all equal. So 218 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:41.799 good luck with that religion of yours. I don't see you getting out of 219 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.519 it alive. Of course, we never get out of it alive. I 220 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.599 don't see you getting it out of it, Scott free. Let's put it 221 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.559 that way. And I don't mean you, Scott though. They could be 222 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.920 Scott free. I don't know they could be Scott Dickey free. I'm not 223 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:02.720 free, that's for sure. But anyway, my only thing is that, 224 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:07.039 just like Infidel said, he takes an oath and he has to represent not 225 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.839 just the people of his district. So that should be his primary concern. 226 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:21.000 It shouldn't be their their morals or their uh constitution breaking ideas. It should 227 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:26.519 be to make sure their roads are are paved, and their their wetlands are 228 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:32.960 managed, and their wildlife is managed, and their schools are are you know, 229 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.759 in good shape and you know, uh infrastructure. That's what a state 230 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.319 senate should be doing, you know, not this fringe. Let's get a 231 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:48.200 SoundBite that everybody can get excited about. Just do your job and quit with 232 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.799 the Let's force everybody to be the way we are. Just do your job. 233 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.839 Fix the roads, fix the schools, fix well, fix the schools 234 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.160 in a way in which you're not pushing your bullshit on them. But otherwise, 235 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.279 Scott I'm dumb. Sure. Yeah, you both bring up great points 236 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:07.839 about the constitution. Right, America is a democracy, but that does not 237 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.039 mean that we're mob rule. Right. It's not just a you know, 238 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.359 might makes right situation. That's why we have a constitution. If it was 239 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:19.319 mob rule, then we wouldn't need a constitution because the mob could always you 240 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.400 know, force their way and muscle their way in. And so, you 241 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.640 know, it's really about defending the Constitution, and I think that's a perfect 242 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.079 spot for us to end this discussion. Thank you Jonathan and Infidel for joining 243 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.839 me. I had a great blast talking to both of you tonight.