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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's nit coffee.
Hey, welcome back on Scott Fitzgerald.

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It is John Alden filling in our
final hour taking you home. Appreciate everybody

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coming along for the ride on your
way home. And we've been trying to

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cover just about everything in the last
two days we've spent together. Always a

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pleasure to sit in this chair.
I just saw Terry Miners there. Johnny

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was getting something to eat in our
our little makeshift snack bar that we have

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out here that the good management here
at iHeart feeds us. We'll put it

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that way. And so Terry was
out there and goes, you like doing

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this, and I said, I
love doing this, Terry. It's nice

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to be able to come out and
have conversations with people. It's like you

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can't ever have a conversation with anybody
in the morning. Everything's go, go

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go, you got three minutes go
do this. You can't like Also,

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some people who aren't awake, like
mentally awake. That's exactly right, dude.

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And I mean, you know,
everything's like moving like people think I'm

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crazy when I say this. But
I say, thirty seconds is a lifetime

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in the morning, and thirty seconds. I look at the clock and I

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go, I got thirty seconds.
Oh man, I got time. I

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can chill. And it's like,
but now when I come in and sit

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down and do this and you get
to talk about fun stuff, and you

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know, it's so weird because I
was, you know, I was telling

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my wife and my kids, and
you know, I literally do not see

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anybody all day. I work here
and I sit down in studio. I

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can't remember which one is again,
D yeah, D I sit in studio

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D. I can't. Cruise has
to have we have cameras that are on.

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So when John and I are doing
long form, it's nice to have

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the camera because it's like John and
I are just having a conversation with each

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other. Cruise has to have the
camera on. I can't talk to Cruise,

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do sports, produce a show,
call somebody halfway around the world and

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stare at Cruise. So in the
morning, I don't listen to any I

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don't see anybody. You're flying the
mother ship in the morning. Yeah,

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I don't talk about and you know, offense to John Shannon, our news

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guy, had to tell him.
He's a talker and he liked to come

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in one day and just likes to
have a conversation. And I'm like,

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dude, I can't talk to you
right now, Bro, I got of

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stuff I got going on. So
it's nice when I can come in here

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and sit down and John, you
make it so easy to have a conversation

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with. Well, I appreciate it
because you get it. I mean,

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you get it, dude. N
made it easy for me. Oh,

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Nick's a great person to have a
conversation with. Bro. I mean you,

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Like I said, I talked to
him at Derby and we even got

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to I swear to god. We
talked for well over two hours standing in

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the same spot and it turned out
was like one of those things, Hey,

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how are you doing? How you
doing? And then we just started

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talking and we are. We are
blessed with good people here. They can

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do it like Terry. You know, when I sit in and do sports

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with Terry, it's fun because Terry
and I can just kind of talk and

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you're on your way. And I've
even sat in with Vinetti and Do White

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a couple of times and talk to
them. But you know, you're moving

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in the morning. Then I go
to my other job and I really don't

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talk to anybody there, which I'm
not complaining. Look, I am blessed.

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If you follow me on social media, you're probably nauseated by how many

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times I posted I'm blessed on a
number of levels. I'm blessed with two

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good jobs that I've done for quite
a while that I enjoy thoroughly. I

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love the fact that that I can
go to my other gig and everybody leaves

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me alone and I can just do
my job. But when I get a

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chance to come in and sit down
with people and talk to you and talk

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to Michael Lyons and yesterday talking to
Matt Melosovich and you know Tom Hellman with

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the helmet guy, that's fine.
I'm like, okay, I can still

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do the conversation thing. All right, We're winning. That's good. So

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it's nice. So it's been a
great couple of days hanging out with you

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guys, And especially when I get
to do this on a Thursday and Friday,

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because what we like to say,
Thursday is the new Friday. So

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when I got done last night,
I went to the gym, called up

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the game, watched that I was
so chill got home, had bowl berries,

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pet the dog, went to bed
tonight. I'm gonna do the same

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washerin's repeat. I'm gonna stay up, probably end up standing. What if

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Edmonton can hang in there in this
game done. I'm probably gonna be tired

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in the morning when I get on
with Joe and John Shannon, but I

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do the same thing. It's Friday, it's chill, so anyway, just

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my obligatory Appreciate you guys, Appreciate
you John, Appreciate our boss, Gus

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Allen, and of course Jim Finn, the programming director here at Sports Talk

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seven ninety for allowing me the opportunity
and reaching out and allow me to do

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this, all right, boss,
Women's college sport or women's sports period,

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kind of a big deal. There
are some forecasts that say, in twenty

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twenty four, for the first time, women's elite sports will generate a revenue

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that surpasses one billion dollars one billion
that's in women's sports. That's a three

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hundred percent increase from the industry's evaluation
in twenty twenty one. So I know

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a lot of you did not agree
with Mega Murpino because of our politics.

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I understand if you're a person that
you know you don't like it when people

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don't stand for the flag or disrespect
the country. I can I can respect

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that. I'm not gonna hold you
against that, and I can certainly understand

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why there's that jealousy part there.
But you got to admit she got one

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thing right, and when she said
it's time to start paying women, it's

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time to start paying women. And
that's what they're starting to see. And

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you're starting to see that now,
and that is amazing, And it was,

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you know, one of the things. I was born kind of where

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I get that mentality. I was
born my mom was a public school teacher,

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and I'm seven years older than my
two younger brothers. They were born

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as twins. The old man left
right after my brothers were born, and

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my mom was She was a victim
of spousal abuse. So I watched my

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mom buster her hump as a public
school teacher and work retail on the weekends

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and provide for us kids so we
could still be here today. I told

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my daughter, I don't care what
you do in life, whatever you do,

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do not become dependent on one man
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Go out and make a life for
yourself. So she did. She graduated

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from Mercy, she got her master's
degree in teaching from Bellamant and now she's

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a teacher and she's going along.
And I couldn't be more pleased. So

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to see women getting paid what they
are due. I got no problem with

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Megan Rapino. I think she was
a trailblazer. I think she'll go down

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in history as a trailblazer. I
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She was onto something. And I
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the ladies get paid because they deserve
it. That said, of course,

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the Indiana Fever are back in action
tonight. They're looking to extend their winning

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streak to four games. They're gonna
be taking on former Kentucky wild Cat Ryan

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Howard in the Atlanta Dream. They're
in the atl tonight. It's the second

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season. It's the second meeting of
the season between the two teams. And

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you know, when everybody was,
you know, bashing Caitlyn Clark and bashing

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the Fever and they they weren't winning
well, suddenly lo and behold on on

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the verge of winning four straight.
Even Caitlyn Clark admits that they're finally starting

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to hit the groove. I mean, I think it's just this group is,

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you know, starting to click and
build some chemistry, and it's one

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day at a time. But like
I said, everybody loves it and satisfaction.

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But sure we would have probably loved
that too, but I think we

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all kept a good perspective on knowing
we just need to get better at one

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step at a time, and that's
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Even though we've won, you know, three in a row at home here,

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so you see that Caitlin Clark's finally
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and now her chief rivaling. Look
don't I don't know if this was scripted

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to come out this way or it
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the Clark de Reese rivalry is turning
into a big deal. In fact,

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Angel Reese seven straight double doubles a
rookie record, are you kidding me?

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Good straight double doubles. No other
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So let us get your initial reactions
into making history here today. Man,

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I'm just happy we finally won.
I'm at home. It's super exciting obviously

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for myself and I try to get
myself some grace and tell myself I'm doing

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a good job, but I have
so much more to grow. And I'm

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I'm just excited to be in this
league and just be excited to win.

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Somewhere, Angel, your name is
being mentioned with some of these great post

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players that have played for the Chicago
Sky, Candice Parker, uh Elena Dela

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Don, Sylvia Files. You're on
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offensive rebounding record. What does that
mean to you? I love Sylvia.

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She was a She was a great
person to me and a great mental to

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me. When I was at LSU, man I would have had that relationship

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with LSU, so I know she's
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mean, obviously, I just want
to do whatever it takes to win,

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and rebound is but I do to
win. Yeah, And you know,

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and I play that sound bite because
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you're you're you were spot on.
There are times when Reice gets a little

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carried away behind the mic and you
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little bit. But she's young,
Yes, she's young, and Kate have

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had to grow up very fast.
That's right, that's right. But I

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think you're I think your argument is
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the hang of That's kind of what
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He said, she's going to get
the hang of this game. It's just

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these these crazy fans have put I
mean they were there were wagers being put

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on whether Kaitlyn Clark when she was
gonna win the m VP this year.

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And Arima is like, slow the
role, beat this, stop dropping these

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expectations on these players. And then
they get frustrated because they've got all these

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expectations and they physically just can't meet
them right now. And and so I

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think, but I wanted to play
that sound bite from Reese because she does

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have a humble side to her,
she does have a human side. And

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and I think the Caitlin Clark angel
res Robberry is fantastic. I mean,

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let's be honest. I mean,
when Bird and Magic would go at it,

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you know, everybody thought that was
the greatest thing since Cantuna Fish.

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Now, maybe I'm comparing apples to
oranges here, I understand, but kind

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of same church, different pew.
And let this play out because it's great

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for women's sports. It's great for
sports. Are you kidding me? And

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now, not only is the WNBA
seeing increase TV ratings, they're expected to

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get the highest priced ticket for a
WNBA game coming up when the two tangled

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this weekend. That'll be Sunday in
Chicago. They're gonna meet it Win Trust

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Arena. So I'm looking right now
on sea geek. I just logged in.

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I logged in earlier this afternoon.
Now I just logged in, So

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I'm looking right now in the cheapest
seat I can find right now, John

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is one hundred and fifty two dollars. And that's crazy. You said.

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That's from the corner that's up in
the corner you need then, and that's

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that's a couple of rolls down one
hundred and fifty seven dollars in the other

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corner. Now if you want,
somebody's trying to unload. I'm gonna click

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on this right here. If you
know Wind Trust Arena for those of you

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that know Win Trust arenas, Oh
is it? Yeah? That's right,

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that's right, that's right. Thank
you the old Roseman horizon. Yes,

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And so they go, okay,
thank you. Court side to row one.

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That's right down the court thanks to
the visitors bench three thousand, five

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hundred and twenty six dollars each.
Wow, is what now you got to

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You gotta keep this in perspective too, that this is what people are asking.

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Are they going to get it?
I don't know. If Jeff Bezos

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wants to come to town, maybe
yeah, move over. Let's move over

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and take it down to courtside on
the other end, court side seven row

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two, two thousand, one hundred
and sixty six dollars each. So women

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are getting paid. I think it's
a happy medium. I think when it

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comes down to it, as you
get closer to game time, you'll start

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to see some of these come down. Or if the hype continues to increase,

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there's always somebody out there that'll pay
for it. Though, there's always

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somebody that says, I just want
to be at this game. In fact,

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my son had one of his friends
like that. His parents were loaded

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with money. So if the hot
item came out or the hot event came

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out, the parents were there to
buy it. I'll be interested. I'm

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going to watch these and see if
somebody picks up these seats and see what

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they go for. So again,
the most expensive seat right now is thirty

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five hundred dollars, just over thirty
five hundred dollars qurt side two road one

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to be right on the court for
this you look at, you know.

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And here's where I feel bad is
players like Asia Wilson and she played for

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South Carolina and she kind of and
this is where some of the resentments coming

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towards or came early on, at
least towards Caitlin Clark. Yeah, players

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like Asia Wilson who just blazed that
trail. I mean, they were the

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ones that were playing when nobody was
given him a love. In fact,

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I heard I heard a couple of
folks in embarrassing moment, a couple of

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folks in our media about this was
about ten fifteen years ago, that referred

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to women's basketball players as nags.
And I actually saw a graphic for the

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WNBA that had like a herd of
horses running and it was embarrassing. It

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was absolutely embarrassing. And I'm not
going to call that person out in sports

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media who did that, but I
was listening to them just the other day

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and they're not local, mind you, it's not local. It's a national

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host and total change of tune when
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was embarrassed for them more than anything
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Asia Wilson who played when that stuff
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like, look, we paid our
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now to say, okay, it
happens. Look we did this, we

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know we did this. Well.
Asia Wilson put this in perspective. A

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player as great as Asia Wilson,
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lead in the first voting returns for
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players with more than two hundred and
seventeen thousand votes. Well, Clark sits

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at number two with just over two
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you about the sport? Longtime?
Asia Wilson two hundred and seventeen thousand,

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Clark just one thousand less, not
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game. By the way, we
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see Team USA take on Team WNBA. Players in the top ten when voting

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ends on June twenty ninth and aren't
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the team WNBA roster. Other players
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Boston of The Fever, New York
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Chicago Sky rookie Angel Reese. All
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July second. And you know what's
interesting, John, when I do sports

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on has and I hope that I
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it down the middle. We were
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She played at the University of Indianapolis, the Greyhounds's All World Player,

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All World player. We kept talking, we were following her story, and

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I kept getting people texting me emailing
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here to play Bellerman, I would
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who are coming home, as I
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a dad and the dad left me
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we answer our voicemail here, but
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to our email. And he was
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finally talking about women's sports in the
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said, they just they don't do
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and they play, and they work
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yet somehow that you don't hear them
complaining. You don't hear them. You

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know, they're not saying why me, Why are you not talking about me?

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They're just going out and there getting
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yeah, there's the Clark Reese back
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you know, you gotta admit someone
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vocal if she wanted to. If
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she could have pushed back on the
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kept her wits about her. And
as you know, Arima said, it

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shall grow into that role. Now
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going to have it over men.
And we'll see if it stays depending because

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now that it appears that the WNBA
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Gino said, the best thing about
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they're not jumping ship after a year, and that's how fans develop relationships.

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So Diana Tarazzi's I mean you walk
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mean they're just household names and fans
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You saw it around here in Louisville
with yes, Yes, exactly a great

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point. I mean, and I
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at Louisville, she became public enemy
number one when she did. I know,

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had she stayed, the fans loved
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instance of a women's college player taking
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program. Yeah, that's right,
That's that's exactly right. And you know

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the thing that I love most about
this town, and this is where Louisville

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gets it right and Kentucky gets it
right as well. After talking with Darren

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Headrick, who calls Kentucky women's basketball
games, Louisville fans know Jeff Walls,

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Jeff Walls. Louisville fans no players. If I say the name Emily Inksler

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in this town, she was only
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Emily Inksler. If I say Ryan
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was such a player people love.
I've been to the Kentucky Lovo women's basketball

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game, fans show out and it's
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I'm not saying it just for women's
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what this does to young ladies is
the father of a young lady who grew

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up and made something of herself and
was not dependent on one guy. Was

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on the She was on the Irish
Dance World Champion stage twice, once in

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Dublin, ones in Scotland. I
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doing it. I'm like, you
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school, right and go to a
public school. But it was money that

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I don't regret spending at all,
because what happened was Irish dance became her

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life and that drove her to do
what she wanted. She never went to

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prom. In fact, just now
she just now met a guy long after

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I mean, she's twenty five years
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met a guy. And I've told
her on a number of occasions just how

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absolutely proud I was of her that
she did not become dependent on that one

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man. She was never worried about
what she looked like she was never worried

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about the feedback she got. She's
a very independent woman, and I don't

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think there's a dad or a mom
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say, that's all I want for
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and indefinitely Caitlin Clark bring to the
table. They're inspiring these young ladies

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to be their own woman and be
that woman. And that's what Megan Rapino

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was getting at. She's like,
just pay us what we're due. That's

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all they want. It doesn't matter
whether you're straight, by lesbian, gay,

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whatever. Meghan Rapino performed on the
field and she just wanted to be

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appreciated for it. If others were
too. We do the same thing.

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We did the same thing in our
workplace. If you're busting your hump and

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somebody's just skating by and they're getting
paid all the money, you got a

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problem with that. And that's what
Megran Repino was getting at. So you

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can't sit there and say you want
to empower women and then get on somebody

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like megranm Repino when she speaks out
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That's not doing anybody any favors at
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own personal agenda. So I just
it's it's one of those things that it

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has been so much fun to cover
doing sports here in the media. Is

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watching the emergence of women's sports.
You know, you watched look at the

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dude, look at the Nebraska volleyball
game, ninety the football stadium, ninety

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two thousand fans, and let's get
well, we're doing that. Let's give

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a big tip of the hat to
Danny bus Boom Kelly for putting Louisville volleyball

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into MAP. I mean, they're
putting people in the YOUM Center women's sports

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that nobody watched more of them.
You're talking about the championship in the WNBA

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drew the biggest crowd in history,
and then of course the twenty twenty three

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FIFA Women's World Cup champions in soccer. It's just it's an amazing time to

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be like in this and I know
we got a break and I'll get out

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of here, but it's an amazing
time to be alive and going back to

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what we opened the show with listening
to what people like Reggie Jackson and Willie

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Mays had to live with and to
see where we are now. And if

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you're getting upset because of Pride Fest, somebody wants to say they have pride

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that makes you mad, well,
nobody can help you there. But please

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don't rate people because we're living in
a day and age now where we're more

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accepting of people than we ever have
been. That's a problem. I don't

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get society. Sometimes it's a great
time to be alive, that's for sure.

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It's a Friday, all right.
We're gonna have a little fun wrap

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things up here with John when we
come back. Thanks for letting me get

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on my soapbox for just a bit, and again, best of luck to

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all you lady athletes out there.
You deserve it for sure. We're back

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after this on Sports Talk seven ninety
always that my man JT. It is

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just got busted for DUI unfortunate.
You know he's coming to Lexington and Louisville.

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Is he coming Louisville too? November? Oh, Lexington's in July?

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I believe Yeah, it's two weeks
from Sunday. He's a guilty pleasure of

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mine. He is. There's nothing
wrong with JT, dude, and nothing

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wrong with him at all. Funny
dude, you watch you. By the

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way, I'm Scott Fitzgerald, He's
John Alden. I'm in for the vacationing

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Nick coffee. He will be back
with you on Monday. Thank you again

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to Nick for letting me sit in
this chair, and thank you all for

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putting up with me, that's for
sure. And by the way, you're

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talking about JT. There, John, Hey, have you seen his Saturday

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Night Live skit where you bring it
on down to Olmaville. No, that

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sounds funny though. Oh dude,
you got to see that. Just look

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up justin Timberlake and the Olmeletville skit. It is the funniest thing out there.

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You can give that a watch.
It is John Alden, I'm Scott

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Fitzgerald, and we're talking all things, of course, sports and about everything

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in between it. And when I
love about sitting in with you for these

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forty eight hours is sees we can
talk a little bit more sometimes in this

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town, be honest with you,
sometimes in this town we get a little

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too. It's little basketball happy right, well, yeah, it's it's Louisville,

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it's Kentucky. And and you know, again, no offense. I

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know that's what breads the butter here, or what butters the bread here.

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Okay, So please don't hear me
say that, Please, please please,

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because when those when those programs are
in action, they are my a story.

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When I go to sports that I
look read the room, fellas read

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the room. So and I also
do my sports for Kentucky News Network.

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I hear from folks all around the
state, and trust me, I get

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it. I understand. But it
is nice sometimes when we have a lull

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in this this season that we're in. Now we've come out of the busy

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part of the Spring crossover. We're
gonna get ready to enter into the Fall

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crossover. It is nice to bring
to lights some other sports, and that's

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what we hope we did here.
You know, I used to be,

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you know, a two sport kind
of guy, and you know, somebody

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took time to introduce me to other
sports, and I was glad they did

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so. But along those lines,
let's do talk some college basketball here,

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because we did get some breaking news
there John earlier today, and we found

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out that the Louisville Cardinals are going
to play some summer ball. They're going

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to the Bahamas, so traditionally saved. This is traditionally you know, Bahamas

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are for Thanksgiving and whatnot. They
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Summer League. They're going to play
four other teams. We do not know

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who those teams are yet. I'm
actually at Bambajamar hoops dot com and it

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looks like the Cardinals are going to
play July twenty eighth through August second.

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Their games are going to be on
July thirtieth and August first. They'll have

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tickets will go on sale soon,
So I expect we'll see another announcement from

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some of the other teams coming up
as to who they will play with.

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Because I know that fans are very
excited for Pat Kelsey, at least what

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they've seen what he's done out of
the transfer portal into john It really is

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a new dayah for Kentucky and Louisville
and these college teams. They're allowed to

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take these summer trips abroad, if
you will, once every four years.

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Louisville hasn't been on one of even
nearly ten years, because I think their

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window to go on one most recently
landed during the COVID season, so for

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obvious reasons, they didn't do one
during that year. So it's been a

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while since Louisville's taken advantage of doing
stuff like this. Obviously, Kentucky last

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season went over to Canada. Indiana
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Mike Woodson's first season, So this
will be really really valuable experience for this

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brand new thirteen man roster for Pat
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many things when Nick and I talk
about college basketball that are going to be

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extra exciting for this season. In
particular, when you think about Louisville and

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Kentucky, you have the two brand
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two virtually I think for both teams, brand new faces, roster members for

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both teams, and so there's a
level of intrigue that both the UFL and

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Kentucky fan bases are both going to
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it's again it adds. It's a
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here. I feel like, oh, well, I agree one hundred percent.

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I mean, okay, so remember
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know you had the Peyton Sibas.
Oh yeah, the Terrence Williams. You

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remember these names, just household nmes. You could rally these names. There

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were days where you could rattle off
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about it. Same for Kentucky.
Let me read you some of these names.

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Frank Islam I Insulam, thank you, thank you very much. You

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can help me with these. Dude. Oh, by the way, thank

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you Louisville Athletic Department for putting that
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the pronunciation guide. That's my pet. Peeves schools that don't do that,

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and then you can't get an Salem
eBay, Terrence Edwards Junior, Javon Hadley,

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Chucky Hepburn, Korn Johnson, Ali
Khalifa, Aiden McCool, Cason Pryor,

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Kobe Rogers, Connie Rous, James
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Abubakar Traire thank you and Noah Waterman. Tell me you had them on

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your radar, right, and it's
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you look at you know, Kentucky, we can do the same thing.

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Kentucky fans. You know there were
days you could go through and just just

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recite the lineups Ansley Almoner and correct
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with. The Kentucky's right, Joe
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does this all till now. Now, look, let me let me disclaim

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her here. Let me say this. Those of you who live, breathe,

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and eat Kentucky basketball and listen to
KSR on the station and listen to

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Nick, You're probably going, dude, who doesn't know these people? Come

404
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.680
on, man, get with it, Scott. I understand that. I'm

405
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.160
just saying from an average fan standpoint. You look at Kobe Bray, Lamara

406
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:51.200
Bria, thank you, Lamon Butler, Andrew Carr, Colin Chandler, Grant

407
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:56.519
Darbyshire, Brendan Garrison, Walker Horn
Kerr. And I'll get this one wrong.

408
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.200
I know I will. Carissa,
that's me, Crisa. See I

409
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:02.119
told you Trent Noah. No,
I didn't know Trent Noah. I didn't

410
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.440
know that as a local guy.
Yeah, he's a local guy. Otega

411
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.720
owah is how he say it?
That's a tough on. I'm not sure

412
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.759
how to say his name. Okay, Travis Perry, Jackson Robinson and Amari

413
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.160
Williams, Travis Perry another local guy. Yes, he is so so what

414
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.480
you know, I guess maybe I
was too spoiled when it was real easy

415
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:25.119
to do the You know, Tyrese, Maxis, Karl, Anthony Towns,

416
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.519
you knew those names and just like
I rattled off for Louisville. So but

417
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.079
now to your point, John,
I'm actually really looking forward to this.

418
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.160
In fact, I saw the two
coaches were together earlier today. Y'all have

419
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.480
to forgive me the it's the Titans
basketball tournament that's going on, I'll get

420
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:47.160
it straight which one it was,
but both coaches were there, and it

421
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.880
was Mark Pope and Kelsey were both
there. It's a different day and age,

422
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:53.640
and to be honest with you,
it was. And I think John

423
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.839
Cala Perry said it best. He
goes, I think it's just time to

424
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.839
and I'm paraphrasing for him, but
he just basically said it's time to move

425
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.920
on, it's time for change.
And what's so much different too about Kentucky

426
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.920
specifically is that. And I think
it became all the more clear when I'm

427
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.519
about ready to say after Cali Perry
left. But with Caliperry at Kentucky,

428
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:17.799
it was always about him. It
wasn't about I mean, yes, Kentucky

429
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.160
was attached to him, but without
Cali Perry, you don't get all of

430
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.759
these five star All American type players. Because now you bring in Mark Pope

431
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:32.440
and it's more about Kentucky again and
you're not focused on Oh, I'm going

432
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.920
to bring in all of these guys. There are gonna be one year guys

433
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.200
going to the NBA right after they
play for their freshman season. To Kentucky,

434
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.599
it's going to be more about development. I feel like with the Wildcats,

435
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.319
now, yeah, you're gonna get
some talented guys who probably gonna stick

436
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.160
around for a little bit. And
even with the transfer portal, it's even

437
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.440
hard to tell how long some of
these players will stick around. But I

438
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:56.799
definitely think with Mark Pope and his
program specifically, it's gonna be a lot

439
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.400
more on the traditional side of things
when it comes to college basketball compared to

440
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:06.200
what we got with Cali Perry the
last ten fit nearly fifteen years. I

441
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.480
would tend to agree, and it's
gonna be because we are in a new

442
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.839
day and age of college basketball,
and you know, for people like my

443
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.119
son and Pops, if you're out
there listening. Dad, you are,

444
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.440
and you got younger kids, and
you know, we're all having the same

445
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.160
conversations our dads had with our moms
had with us. That is, oh,

446
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.240
back in my day. Back in
my day, we just we played

447
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.960
every team in the conference. Well, I didn't grow up with that.

448
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.559
I mean, we had non conference
games. I didn't grow up with the

449
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.680
Big eight. I don't know what
the Big eight is, you know.

450
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.799
And so, and that's why when
I talk with my son about sports,

451
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:51.880
I sit back and I just listen, because I remind myself that he doesn't

452
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.519
know life like I knew it like
he He will never know a Rose Bowl

453
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:03.400
between the Pac ten and the Big
ten when they legitimately ten teams in the

454
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.440
conference. I mean I went through
the years where where Michigan played Washington every

455
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.640
year, and you knew when you
saw that game that was a big deal.

456
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:18.759
So it was almost sacrilegious. I
will never forget the first time a

457
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.440
Big ten team and a Pac ten
team did not play in the Rose Bowl.

458
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.319
I mean I went kicking and screaming
into that bad boy. I was

459
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:30.440
like, are you kidding me?
This is ridiculous. But for my son,

460
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.240
it was no big deal. We
sat there and watched Michigan Alabama playing

461
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.119
the Rose Bowl. That matchup was
unheard of when I was a kid.

462
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.640
You never get those teams because that
was when you had the writers picked the

463
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.920
number one team and the number two
team. In fact, nineteen eighty six

464
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:51.920
they split, Michigan and Nebraska still
arguing over the national championship, and now

465
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.680
they're in the same conference together.
And I want to ask you something,

466
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.720
Scott, since you grew up in
that era. Yeah, as somebody who

467
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:06.000
never experience a college football season where
there wasn't a definitive national champion because to

468
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.279
me, and I know you got
ties and soccer and that's something I understand,

469
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:14.279
that kind of thing. I cannot
imagine sharing a national championship in any

470
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.240
collegiate sport. Yeah, because you
now you play for it, right,

471
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.839
it would have had Nebraska and in
Michigan. Is Miami or Michigan you were

472
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.559
talking about? It was Michigan in
Michigan because Michigan and Nebraska split in ninety

473
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.359
seven. And that's insane to me, right, And it makes it even

474
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.000
weirder when you talk to somebody who
didn't know that. The way things were

475
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.440
then, my son and all he
knows is Michigan and Nebraska played in the

476
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.039
same conference. In Nebraska has a
pretty bad football team. Oh yeah,

477
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.519
I know anything about that. That's
so as we transcend sports, and this

478
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.359
is where on the cusp of seeing
the NCAA tournament expanded, not just in

479
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:52.640
football but in basketball, this is
what people are gonna know. And as

480
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.480
I remind mister Cruse every morning,
who you know, everybody wants to coach,

481
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.680
but nobody's coaching. There's people for
the in the NC DOUBLEA that paid

482
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:07.000
a lot more money than we do
in our privy to a lot more data

483
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.279
than we have to make these decisions. There's something that's telling the NC DOUBLEA.

484
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.559
Hey, if we expand this thing
by six more teams, I'm talking

485
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.200
about the men's basketball tournament, we'll
get this, this and this in return.

486
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.279
This is our cash Coyle right now. Now? Do they always get

487
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.960
it right? Of course, not
not at all. I mean, expanding

488
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.359
a college football team is not gonna
be a different than when we had four

489
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.880
teams. We argued about the fifth, we'll argue about the thirteenth. But

490
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:37.440
you made the point eloquently last yesterday, and that is by the time is

491
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:42.920
yours. Maybe it was my daughter's
boyfriend. But once you start getting down

492
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:47.920
to like eleven or twelve, it's
not as critical as opposed to say a

493
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.680
fifth team not making it in what
we saw out of Florida State this year.

494
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.319
So people, I'm trying to say
is people aren't as worried about,

495
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:02.079
say, the thirteenth team is much
as they're worried about a Florida State not

496
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.359
getting in because of injury. And
as it turns out, it probably was

497
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.680
the right call because Florida State would
have got drilled had they had you put

498
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.480
them in there with the with the
injury, I'm saying, with the injury,

499
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.039
they would have got drilled. So
as things change, you can do

500
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.279
one or two things. And this
applies to life, and this is kind

501
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:23.680
of where I live. You can
either embrace it or you can go kicking

502
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.119
and screaming into it and you'll just
be miserable every day of the week.

503
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.160
And I had to learn that the
hard way. I did. And so

504
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:37.680
when sports changes. For example,
I was a college football guy mentioned on

505
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.119
the show yesterday. I did a
show for nine years, a college football

506
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.519
show here. I lived eating,
I just everything was college football with me.

507
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.319
But when it got to a magical
point with me inside where it's the

508
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.880
college football started looking like the NFL, I walked more and leaned heavily into

509
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.480
the NFL. And that's where I'm
living now. But that doesn't make me

510
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.720
right or wrong. That doesn't make
that's just me and John. You said

511
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.799
you like the college game, and
it's interesting you mentioned how it seems more

512
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.639
like the NFL. I think to
me that makes college football more attractive because

513
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.800
these players have like they want to
be treated like their professionals. That's the

514
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.599
way it comes across when you have
all this in I own transferportal of that

515
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:20.239
kind of stuff. Do I wish
there was more regulation, absolutely, But

516
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.800
when it comes down to it,
it is still amateur sports. They're still

517
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:30.559
playing for schools, for institutions.
Yeah, and do with that what you

518
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.199
will, But that's why there will. You'll never be it'll never purely be

519
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.199
like the NFL. But this is
as close as it can get to it

520
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.840
at this point. I feel like, do you think too, that age

521
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:44.599
plays a part in this? That
you know, my son is in college

522
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:46.880
now, so I think he relates
more to the college game. Yeah,

523
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.800
And that's so I grew up.
Maybe it's because this the air we don't

524
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.239
really have a dominant NFL fan base. Yeah, people who are Bengals fans,

525
00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:00.000
people in Bowling Green area, more
Titans fans. You have Steelers fans

526
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.039
everywhere obviously, but there was never
a definitive fan base around here. So

527
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:06.880
a lot of people they always go
to uvl UK or in my instance,

528
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.000
in Deana. I grew up in
Jeffersonville, so that's kind of where I've

529
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.639
always been with the Hoosiers and that
kind of stuff and the kind of it's

530
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.599
not really a tr rivalry, but
you know, the three local schools.

531
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.719
Like we always talk about college football, college basketball, and as long as

532
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.159
as long as there, as long
as the game stays palatable, no matter

533
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:29.239
what changes the NCAA or the playoff
committee, that kind of stuff, no

534
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.239
matter what changes they make, people
are still going to come back to it.

535
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:35.119
It doesn't matter what they do to
the game. Yeah. I think

536
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.800
you're right, and it's bigger than
ever. And when we saw that with

537
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:42.119
Louisville fans. And what also what
I noticed too is when your product is

538
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.039
taken away from you, you're starved. And we're saying and we're going to

539
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.800
see that with Louisville basket if things
work out the way they should for coach

540
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.159
Kelsey. We're going to see that
with Cardinal basketball fans. I mean,

541
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.800
I was my son and I were
big time and we went to every game

542
00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:00.559
we could get to during the Peyton
Siva era. And when that's taken away

543
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.079
from you, you come back and
you're you're like a rabbit Doug and it

544
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.199
had Nayton in a month. And
you're seeing that in Louisville football now.

545
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:13.159
And unfortunately, I think I told
Tony, I said, this bowl gaming'll

546
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.480
be the best thing for him.
And I'm not talking about playing on the

547
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.840
field. I'm just talking about it's
played in the baseball stadium against the USC

548
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.239
team. It's half their starters aren't
even playing in the bowl game anymore.

549
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.000
And they still spanked him, and
they still spanked him. And so I

550
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.159
think for I told Tony that bowl
game is going to do them no favors.

551
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:31.760
But what did do them? Pay? Wellus? It didn't help that

552
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:35.400
you lost to your rival too at
home. We were at that Kentucky game

553
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.920
and that stadium was just deflated except
for the Kentucky fans, mind't you,

554
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:45.840
But there is still that hope and
I think that that coach Brahm and the

555
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.639
Cards will get there. And when
they do, and they we we saw

556
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.519
to Kentucky and Kentucky had that nice
run. Kentucky put a bunch of players

557
00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:00.320
in the NFL because they had that
good run. Now they fall and off

558
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.320
a bit that's yet to be seen. I mean winning changes everything. You

559
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.400
win. People look at what lou
City's going through right now. Had lou

560
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:13.840
City not had those very successful years
early on and been like, say what

561
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.000
Miami is right now, I mean
they're horrible. They have seven points in

562
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.960
the table. If you don't win
out of the gate, it's hard for

563
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:25.360
people to get on board. We
talked about the USFL yesterday. I still

564
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.719
was a fan, why because they
won right out of the gate. Everybody

565
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:34.000
loves a winner, but you gotta
win unless unless you're able to stand on

566
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.440
your laurels Louisville. Schools like Louisville
and Kentucky can buy time during the down

567
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.119
years because they've been around so long. So it is the changing face of

568
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.000
sports. We love it. That's
why we're here. And when it comes

569
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:46.400
to the nuts and bolts, I'm
gonna leave you in the hands of Nick

570
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:51.599
Coffee and John Alden because they can
get tighter into that than I ever could.

571
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:53.679
But it's fun to be a sports
fan. It's fun to be a

572
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.000
sports fan here in Louisville. It's
fun to be able to talk about it

573
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.599
on the radio. Hey, we're
gonna come back to wrap things up after

574
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:01.960
this, Scott Fitzgerald. He's John
Alden, We're back after this on Sports

575
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.960
Talk seven ninety. Yeah. That
is Dylan Marlow. He is in concert

576
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.800
on four Street Live tonight. I
was just coming in from back there.

577
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:14.800
You can you can hear them doing
sound checks out there, John, and

578
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.039
it's like vibrating like that about where
we're at. Yeah. Then I was

579
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.840
they were doing sound checks and you
can feel it vibrating here in the studio

580
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.519
and we're in the back here,
and I'll be back here in about eight

581
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:29.840
hours and getting ready for the show
on Saturday, and I guarantee you folks

582
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.320
will still be out there party and
you got to walk in amongst them.

583
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.719
So we're gonna get out of here. And John is always thank you so

584
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.039
much, my friend. I appreciate
you. If you look forward to the

585
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.159
next time. Yeah, same here
and Nick will be back with you Monday.

586
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:43.519
Look, I know a lot of
people don't always agree with me,

587
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.159
and sometimes my takes don't make sense, and I totally understand that, but

588
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:51.320
I that's why we're here. I
appreciate you at least listening to me,

589
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.079
and I'm grateful that you're able to
allow me to do it. So have

590
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:58.480
a great weekend, everybody. I'll
be on radio Study Hall starts tomorrow morning

591
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.039
at six o'clock I News Radio forty
WHS. Have a great weekend.

