1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,559 Hey everybody, and welcome to Gambling with an Edge. That's right, It 2 00:00:04,759 --> 00:00:09,359 is Gambling with an Edge, not Life Is a Gamble. Reports of our 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:17,239 death were exaggerated. So yes, we will occasionally be doing episodes of Gambling 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,359 with an Edge. They won't be every week, they won't be exactly an 5 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:25,320 hour long. We're just gonna do them when things come up and we think, 6 00:00:25,399 --> 00:00:28,359 oh, you know, we should, we should do an episode. 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,640 And so here we are for today's episode, which we talk about super Bowl 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,039 twenty four and in addition, we talked to some of the things going on 9 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:44,759 in Las Vegas. I just wanted to also say you can always get a 10 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:50,159 hold of me at Life Is a gamblepod at gmail dot com, or you 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,520 can find me on Twitter at RWM twenty one. Now here's the show. 12 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,959 Good afternoon. You're listening to Gambling with an Edge. Now here're your hosts, 13 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:14,599 Bob Dancer and Richard Munchkin. Good afternoon, Welcome to Gambling with an 14 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,560 Edge. I'm Bob Dancer and I'm Richard Munchkin. Now, Gambling with an 15 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:26,319 Edge doesn't do many podcasts anymore, kind of somewhat randomly, but today we 16 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,879 have on Anthony Curtis and Frank B We're going to be talking about the Super 17 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,959 Bowl, which is being held in Las Vegas, and it's the first Super 18 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,439 Bowl ever with a Taylor Swift aspect to it, and where we have other 19 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:48,239 things to talk about as well. So Anthony and Frank, welcome to Gambling 20 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,799 with an Itch. Hey guys, hey there, thank you all right. 21 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:59,079 So every year at Super Bowl, the Westgate gives out a big line of 22 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,239 props. Pro stand in line, get to make one bet and then they 23 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,280 go to the back of the line and it lasts forever. Anthony, you 24 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,080 were there this year. How did that work? There was no line. 25 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,639 I got Actually I showed up about an hour after the opening, and I 26 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,000 was absolutely shot. There wasn't a single person in line. There's you know, 27 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,919 I've gone to I don't know how many of these fifteen or so sixteen 28 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,560 and it's diminished over the years. But in the beginning and years after when 29 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,240 I started going, the lines would be around the corner and would last for 30 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,840 hours and hours. So I got there an hour late, figuring, you 31 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,800 know it was it would still be going, and there was not a single 32 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,039 person in line. There was only one person I knew I saw pheasick there. 33 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,000 It's just a changing of the guard, you know, the way it 34 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,479 is. And apparently they came out online, you know, a couple of 35 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,479 days earlier, and that scene is over. It's just gone. It used 36 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,639 to be the big on, you know, the big reveal, and it 37 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:05,680 was absolutely nothing. I was I was shocked. Do you think Westgate will 38 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:12,240 try to preempt people like in the future so that they because that was kind 39 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,879 of a cachet that they were the first, right that they would put out 40 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:19,879 the props first. Do you think they want to go back to that. 41 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:23,319 I think they would if they could. But I mean they've lost a lot 42 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,919 of them. You know, Frank can speak to us probably better than I, 43 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:29,479 but they've lost a lot of their their fire in a lot of ways, 44 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,000 you know. I mean, they were the super contest. They were 45 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:35,439 it, and that just you know, that title got heisted by sir. 46 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:40,159 You know, the circa contests absolutely crushed west Skate now and you know, 47 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,840 others wanted to have their props out first, and you know, as we 48 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:49,080 got more into the digital age and online books and sports betting around the country, 49 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,719 other places just hopped up in front of them. And I don't know 50 00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:53,599 if they'll ever be able to get that back. What do you think, 51 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:58,919 Frank, Well, I think that the big problem with trying to be first 52 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,280 is that the way they go about it is they are very deliberate and they 53 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,960 take time, and they have a big template that they use every year and 54 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:14,439 it's just not automated, so they're doing things more by hand and involving recency 55 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,480 and these DraftKings, fandles, they're just almost literally pushing a button for this 56 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,279 to update the things that they did last week because because they offer a big 57 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:26,120 menu like that every week. So on Monday morning, you know, DraftKings 58 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,199 was up, Fandel was up, ESPN had some stuff up, and you 59 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,319 know, it sort of takes the air out of the balloon for Westgate because 60 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:39,319 they go about things a different way, a better way, a more competent 61 00:04:39,319 --> 00:04:43,120 way, and a more responsible way. But you know, that's just the 62 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,040 way it is. So I think that's a thing of a past. I'm 63 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,560 being the premiere of the lines. You know, it's the unveiling of everything 64 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:53,720 because they do things that other places don't. But the days of them being 65 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,680 you know, the premiere of everything and anything that's going to be super bowl. 66 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,560 Those are long un see that was going to go see that's what's going 67 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,920 on with these places like fandul and Draftking says, it's all algamariva. You 68 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:12,000 know. They've got all their stuff. They pop it in and they simulate 69 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,319 these things a million times in ten seconds or less, you know what I 70 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:17,600 mean. And so they can they can beat anybody to the punch on this 71 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:23,680 and get reasonable lines. You know for sure, even with Westgate where they 72 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:29,519 have things maybe that other people don't when they open them at the super book, 73 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:32,160 do they put them on their app at the same time so you don't 74 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:38,399 really have to go down there. There's a slight delay. I believe there's 75 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:41,120 a slight delay. I did. I wasn't checking in real time last night, 76 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,959 but they get that would even take the air out of the balloon even 77 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,759 more if you didn't even have to show up for it. So usually by 78 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,279 the end of the night, Yeah, and the line diyed. So who 79 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,480 knows when they put them up. I have to ask some guys that were 80 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,399 there, but they kind of like listen, they used to keep the sheet 81 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,360 secret for a day or two. You couldn't get a sheet for a day 82 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:03,319 or two. Now you can go right online an hour or so after and 83 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,759 get the whole sheet, and they literally hand them out to us. Like 84 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,399 last year they handed them out standing in line. So I'm standing in line 85 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:12,600 and they just go, here's a sheet. So yeah, I mean, 86 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,879 you got to keep up with your competition, and the competition says, you 87 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,920 know, when to play these games. You know we're going to we're going 88 00:06:16,959 --> 00:06:19,160 to get stuff up early, we're gonna make the information available to you. 89 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:23,120 And they had to follow suit. You know. It's kind of another example 90 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,759 of what Frank's been saying now for two years, is that not just forget 91 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,879 about the Westgate specifically, Nevada is just losing the crown, you know, 92 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:38,360 of being the sports betting centric place. Everyone else is moving forward and Nevada 93 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:42,319 seems to be stuck in the mud. Yeah, it seems to me they're 94 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:46,000 the worst state to be a sports better. I mean, well, Richard, 95 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:50,560 have you gone have you even have you gone to Arizona and experienced the 96 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:56,199 difference between betting on your desktop and betting on the phone. We're getting to 97 00:06:56,199 --> 00:07:00,040 the point where we have to start calling this archaic. Why they can't get 98 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,759 it done, I don't know. Yeah, and not only do you have 99 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,360 to bet on your phone. You can't open the account unless you actually go 100 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,560 to the casino, whereas in Arizona you can open an account, you know, 101 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:16,319 from your home in your underwear. And it's yeah, it's absurd how 102 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,839 bad it is here. And the original thought as to why they're doing this 103 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,439 once the other states started to open up is that, you know, Vegas 104 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,680 guys, you know, you got the reputation Vegas guys are those are the 105 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,399 shark guys. The shark guys all move into lot, you know, move 106 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,079 to Las Vegas, you know, apply their trade there, and so we're 107 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:36,759 gonna make it We're not gonna make it so easy on them. We don't 108 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:41,199 want them having this, for that's too much access. We start to lose 109 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,160 control when that happens. That was the thinking. I'm not so sure that 110 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,839 that's what is. And then I don't know if they're just lazy or a 111 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:50,519 bit arrogant saying, oh, well we're Las Vegas, we don't have to 112 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:56,720 do that. But whatever it is, it's definitely just because it costs a 113 00:07:56,759 --> 00:07:59,519 bunch of sharp guys moving out of town to better states. That's that's not 114 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,360 so no big loss for them, but it's still they would do better business 115 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:07,560 if they could just get that, just get the website stuff going and make 116 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,399 it more easy, more impulsive for somebody to get money into a time where 117 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,319 they could just get on their phone, didn't be sitting on the toilet. 118 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:16,319 Okay, I just deposited to Westgate. I just deposited to MGM. You 119 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,360 can't do that. You can do that everywhere else. Yeah, yeah, 120 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:24,600 yeah, I mean, and there's at least one casino I know of where 121 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,879 their attitude is, we're not going to take more than five hundred dollars on 122 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:33,879 the app because if they come into the casino, they might play, you 123 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:37,240 know, so they want people to go to go to the casino, which 124 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,320 you know, just seems stupid to me. Right, they can't get they 125 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,159 can't get that, they can't get what their game plan actually is because it 126 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,039 used to be in the OL days. Yeah, we will provide things that 127 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,799 we don't really make a lot of money on in the casino just to get 128 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,559 them in and marring the wife in, you know, and they'll play slots 129 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,039 and all that. It's they can't figure out what they want to do, 130 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:58,240 and uh, you know, it's definitely costing them and they're falling further and 131 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,120 further behind. Well, that was the whole thing about, you know, 132 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,240 contests. They were doing contests where you have to come in every you know 133 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:09,159 week during the football season and to put your picks in. And now you're 134 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,279 there and now that's all changed too. Any contests to do. You can 135 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,120 now put your your picks in, you know, through the phone, you 136 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:20,679 know. Motally, it's just everything's changed. The whole world has changed. 137 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,639 They tried to keep it a certain way, and technology just took it to 138 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,320 a point and Nevada has just been real slow to to you know, tot 139 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,720 to go along with it. Yeah, it was the same arrogance. They 140 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,320 killed the horse business here twenty five years ago too, when they passed a 141 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:39,840 law saying we're not going to give anybody a rebate and and all the big 142 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:43,080 horse players just moved off shore, moved out of that, you know. 143 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:50,960 Okay, So getting away from Nevada situation. On the Super Bowl prop bets, 144 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:58,080 generally, they continue to get harder and harder to beat, are they 145 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,759 Is it more of the same this year? The books are getting smarter and 146 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,639 the edges are smaller. Have you been able to evaluate that Frank Well, 147 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:11,720 it is still early in the betting cycle for the Super Bowl, but you 148 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:16,960 know, you see the trend that has been going for years because of the 149 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,960 introduction of the new books, and they're basically things flatten out more, things 150 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,519 get straightened out more because there's just more players throughout the whole country that will 151 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:31,960 straight have money on deposit, will straighten things out. So I would say 152 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:39,960 that the primary players and primary props, those are a not that difficult to 153 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:46,000 make lines for and be any inefficiencies get ironed out, including anticipation of which 154 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:48,720 way the money will go, which when it comes to those kind of things 155 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,120 usually is in I guess you would say the positive direction, the direct you 156 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,679 know, four things that happen, four guys to go over. So the 157 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:01,320 strategy has been you know, if you're going to adjust, your strategy is 158 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:09,159 to target secondary type bets and secondary type players where there's a lot more variance 159 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,320 and questionable methodology when it comes to making lines for those guys. Because it's 160 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,679 not tough to make a line for Patrick Mahomes, it is difficult to make 161 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,360 a line for Kyle Uschak, which by the way, reminds me of a 162 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,480 blackjack ball question, which because if you can spell use jack, I'll buy 163 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 you a dinner. But you remember the one where it was can you spell 164 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Skrzewski? Oh? Yeah, yeah, And I couldn't do it. I 165 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,639 watched basketball. I couldn't do it. There's too many z's and c's and 166 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,960 so I got the K right. So yeah, I would. I would 167 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,679 say that your shit, Your strategy should be shifting to look at what they 168 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,559 would call derivative secondary markets, including the fringe players that don't don't don't normally 169 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,039 get lined during the course of the regular season, and there you can find 170 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,240 areas where they are not as sure of what they can do, and you 171 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,960 know it's going to come down to your evaluation of how that player is going 172 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,279 to be used. And you got to use some pretty solid fundamentals to come 173 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,919 up with something to make a line for a guy who only actually gets a 174 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,159 touch in two thirds of the game he appears in. But they're putting lines 175 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:26,879 up for guys like that. What about the bridge jumper bets? Historically, 176 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,600 no safety has been a solid bet mathematically, but when it goes wrong, 177 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:39,679 it goes really wrong. And since the public likes to bet on the yes 178 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,879 so much is still betting no on those bridge jumper bets at good play. 179 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Well, for you know, the high volume player in the Super Bowl prop 180 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:56,240 market. That's a bet that you make right close to game time because you 181 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,919 got to let the public get a hold of it first, you know. 182 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,159 And they're not the typically not the people that are betting twelve days out. 183 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:05,159 They're betting one and two days out. And once they get a hold of 184 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:09,159 it and start the bet and start to take that nice plus money, then 185 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,759 you then you may be able to find some places where you're getting you know, 186 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,600 value on the bridge jumper. So and also it works very nicely for 187 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:22,519 the guys that do bet a lot because by then you can assess how much 188 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:24,360 of your bank roll, if you have a limited amount you have left that 189 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,000 you could devote to something like that, because it is a bet that could 190 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,480 cripple your bad if it goes the wrong way, and you put in a 191 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,080 lot of work throughout the you know, the previous ten days, and then 192 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,360 it just to blow up because somebody takes a safety or something. So that 193 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:43,559 in the overtime you're you're waiting till the end anyway on those and value may 194 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,679 may may appear. You know on Super Bowl weekend you just have to wait 195 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,279 and see. But I still know a lot of guys that do it reflectively. 196 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,799 It's almost like a gorilla bet, Gorilla super Bowl bet. You know, 197 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,440 it's just like just through brute for it. This is always right, 198 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,840 and I just we we know we all have mutual friends that show up just 199 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:05,080 to bet those couple bets. Yeah. Well, and also you's didn't clothed 200 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:15,000 more things like no fourth down conversion or things which are not bridge jumpers anymore. 201 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:18,559 Yeah, well, the you know, the two classic bridge numpers are 202 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,200 the O T and the safety come up with all kinds. I mean, 203 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,039 you can bet no Oregami now you know which is half People don't know OREGANI 204 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:31,519 is, Will there be I just saw Richard shake his head like, yeah, 205 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:37,120 that is well it's these little paper mache Yeah, no, it's it 206 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:43,000 is a I believe the OREGANI is will the same players score both a touchdown 207 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:48,639 and the subsequent extra point, you know, the two point conversion? So 208 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:52,399 it was done not too long ago. I don't know if you know a 209 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,440 guy that could do would be somebody like Lamar he could do it, or 210 00:14:56,519 --> 00:15:01,039 because he could run both in or maybe a kelsey to catch the ball and 211 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,320 then they go for two and you catch the extra playt but you got to 212 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,039 get a two point conversion in they're a successful one to begin with, so 213 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,120 you can start doing the math backwards for their what's the likelihood of a two 214 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:13,519 point conversion and then go through your chanities for that. I don't think the 215 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:16,960 Oregoni's a very good boot. Do you have any thoughts about betting the Super 216 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,879 Bowl in game? I mean, you think it'll be different than betting any 217 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:31,440 other football game in game because of the amount of people watching it and potentially 218 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,720 betting in game. Well, I guess the volume would be, you know, 219 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,639 dramatically more for the for the live betting and the you know, Richard, 220 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:46,159 that's one I'm not so sure because I am not an in game better 221 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,600 that much. I don't bet that much, and you know, I'm wary 222 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:54,240 of it unless it comes during a break where I know action is stopped and 223 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:56,799 I'm not getting you know, you know, heads eye win tails. You 224 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,080 lose with the sports book when they it comes to accepting the line that you 225 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,639 want to bet, So I definitely don't. I don't make the attempt to 226 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:07,960 do it. So I'm kind of the wrong guy to ask about the live 227 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,480 betting. But I think just when you when you just try to reason it 228 00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:14,519 out, I'm guessing you might get something pretty decent, you know. I 229 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:18,519 mean, an avalanche of money comes in anytime a key guy has looks a 230 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:21,000 little wobbly, and they take them off the field and then they go to 231 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:22,679 commercial. All of a sudden, you get a bunch of you get a 232 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:26,039 bunch of action. Oh, he might be out, he might be out, 233 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,840 and then they see him come back for commercial. There he is, 234 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:30,600 he's getting ready to go back in, and then everything snaps back. So 235 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:34,559 if you want to sit there and be that play that much attention to the 236 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,960 screen during the game, you know, God bless you probably can't find something 237 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,440 worth doing. Yeah, then you can't go to the parties and have fun. 238 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Though. So speaking of the parties, where are the good Super Bowl 239 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:55,480 parties this year? Oh my gosh, I mean, I couldn't possibly you 240 00:16:55,519 --> 00:16:59,320 know, put them in order or pick them. Every single place is going 241 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:02,080 to have something in Vegas, you know, remember it's going to be in 242 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:04,359 Vegas this time. And we just wrote in the advisor We're like, you 243 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:11,799 know, for decades Vegas has always been the second best place to be if 244 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:15,039 you're not in the stadium, and I would argue the best place to be. 245 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,279 You know, I never if I had a choice, it's right here 246 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:19,920 in Allegiate. You could give me tickets. I don't think i'd want to 247 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,079 go. I mean, I'm saying that now because who knows I might. 248 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:26,519 But you know, bucket list, right, sort of bucket list. But 249 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,720 I mean the parties outside are just so good. From the regular house parties 250 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:36,160 that people invite you to to every single bar, they're all going to have 251 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,039 you know, pools and squares, they're all going to have specials and food. 252 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,599 You know, we're we've got a big folder full of different things and 253 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:48,319 we're just going to put one big long list up. There's not one Downtown 254 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Grand is having one that looks really good. And just everything that Downtown Grand 255 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,599 has been doing doing recently has been good. They really look at the bargain 256 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,880 value side of things and they're going to have a party there. That's one 257 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,799 that sticks out for me. But you just can't go wrong, you know, 258 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,680 you know, as a fail state, just walk into any sportsbook and 259 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,279 it's going to be absolutely madness. Just because the game is here. I 260 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:11,240 don't know why all these people are going to go. It's really cool. 261 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,319 I want to be outside of where the stadium is, you know, so 262 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,480 where people are going to come to Vegas like that. But I don't have 263 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:19,839 a specific recommendation there, except unless it was the Grand. But it just 264 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:26,799 doesn't matter if you just can't go wrong. Yeah. Well, I'm getting 265 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:30,440 a bit older and a bit crankier, is you know. I'm more than 266 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,599 a get off my lawn guy these days. So I don't really want to 267 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,119 go to a casino at all. I don't care what do you offer me 268 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,160 to go to a casino party. You would it would have to be all 269 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,599 laid out in detail, exactly what's going on in there, because I want 270 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:44,640 to watch the game, you know, because you end up at some of 271 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,960 these parties and there's a mild interest in watching the game. There's there's a 272 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,000 they're doing all. I've gone to parties where it was difficult to watch the 273 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,839 game and I left at halftime. You know. A couple of years ago, 274 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,400 I went I met hurt at a bar, and I think that's actually 275 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,680 the best call to find yourself a local bar, and in this case, 276 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:07,319 not a cac bar and not a San Francisco bar, just a bar that 277 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,440 you're comfortable at, and you know, you know, scope it out a 278 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,720 day or two an advanced final what's going on? And Tree's got a huge 279 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,559 list. It's either that or you get invited to somebody's house to watch it, 280 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:21,160 which is you. You know, now, you're pretty sure that you're 281 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,920 going to get at least a good viewing experience. But the days of me 282 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:27,319 going into the casino on Super Bowl Sunday are old. Well, I think 283 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,480 they're going to have a lot of these Yeah. Yeah, by the way, 284 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,279 I'll vouch for that. You know, frank'slit. Well, are they 285 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:36,440 going to have to sound on well, how loud is it going to be? 286 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,440 Uh? Well? Uh? Going to parties with him is like I've 287 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:45,079 been really fun. Well, but but Frank, aren't there bets you want 288 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,920 to make right before the right before it starts, I mean, or on 289 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:56,839 the day of That's why God created apps. Well, but in Havana they 290 00:19:56,839 --> 00:20:00,400 don't take hardly any action on the apps, or maybe they will the super 291 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,720 Yeah. Well, Richard, when you when you've been doing this for as 292 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,519 many years, you realize, listen, there are going to be places where 293 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:08,920 you could get to the window in a reasonable amount of time. It's it's 294 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,960 it's just a mess parking and getting in there, and you know it is, 295 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:15,640 I done it. I can't be trying to think. The last time 296 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:22,680 I ran around and was betting live on a Sunday morning was I don't know 297 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:27,839 it was. It might have been the Patriots undefeated season. It might have 298 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,400 been because because we were doing some we were doing some scout, some arbitrage 299 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,640 on the Yeah, we needed we needed the money line. We needed New 300 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,319 England on the money line. I remember that well. In those days the 301 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,880 lines were they were so long. They probably are still. But think about 302 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,079 this. You know when you talk about not being being able to get that 303 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,000 much down most better, that's fine, right, What kind of bests are 304 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,799 they gonna make? They're making twenty five dollars bets, one hundred dollars bets, 305 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,240 maybe that sort of thing. You can get those down on the app 306 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,359 and you don't have to be there in those lines, you know. I 307 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,759 mean, it's I thought it was the greatest thing in the world better when 308 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,960 the apps came out, because that's the first thing that I put in LVA 309 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,240 is you don't have to pay those lines anymore because we've run around and I 310 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:11,359 go, seriously, we're going to wait in this line is going to take 311 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,720 an hour and a half, you know, before you get that's probably alleviated 312 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:18,440 now more because of the apps, because a lot of those people are making 313 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,079 small bets, you know, twenty dollars bets, fifty dollar bets. Yeah. 314 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,759 And also when it comes to the day of and the day before, 315 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:30,480 that's when most guys, I know it'd definitely be you know, that's when 316 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,160 you start ampting your offshore accounts. Now you're not not Now you're dealing with 317 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,599 all that stuff. And on Sunday morning, you know, I'm just I'm 318 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:44,079 more on Pinnacle and Chris and the other offshores than really fishing around on the 319 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:47,720 Westgate app and whatever. All those all those bets, a lot of them 320 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:48,599 have been made. Now you're gonna go in there and look for the value, 321 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:52,480 which we probably will get to talking about soon. How you know, 322 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,519 once the public gets a hold of the things that we know, they're going 323 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:57,839 to bet beyond the point of reason that you're going to get in there and 324 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,359 buy some things back. And that's what you know, the Vegas and the 325 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,359 US books are good for. But outside of that, yeah, you know, 326 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,519 I'm just you're just trying to use whatever money is that you have left, 327 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:11,559 trying to use that up and get it in somehow read that that that 328 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,839 sounds reasonable. Well, so let's talk about that. What what what kind 329 00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:21,720 of things are you looking for that the public is gonna whack out of line? 330 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:26,960 Well, I don't know, you guys don't say what no safety? 331 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,640 Oh, no safety. Well we talked about that in the overtime, right, 332 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:36,720 yeah, but when we're talking about you know, because because I prefer 333 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,079 the player stuff, So let's talk let's talk about real quick, because I 334 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,799 get I got this question a few times already because they saw the line go 335 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,039 up to West Gate. They believe it one up, three sixty five. 336 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:51,000 Will there be a touchback on the opening kickoff? Okay? So that's a 337 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,160 real popular bed. And in the the popular side over the last few years 338 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:03,359 has been to at the no because you were getting plus money and the uh 339 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,000 as. It was being reasoned that the nerve factor, not only that you 340 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:11,599 know you can be the kicker, is going to be a little you know, 341 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,839 have a little bit of the yips because it's such a big stage. 342 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:21,279 On top of the fact that some people speculate that the team that's returning the 343 00:23:21,319 --> 00:23:23,359 ball, they're we're going to start dambling right on the back and even if 344 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,240 the ball goes in the end, they're going to try to run it out. 345 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,599 So that's been getting a lot of play over the years. And I 346 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,599 saw the line came out. I don't have it right in front of me. 347 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:34,720 I think it came out around three sixty so minus three sixty, yes, 348 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,960 And to me, I made the line three hundred maybe maybe three ten 349 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,759 minus three ten. And it's based purely on, you know, a season 350 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,319 performance. You got two the three things you need to consider, all right, 351 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,400 the each kicker and how they do on the road. So Butcker for 352 00:23:56,519 --> 00:24:02,880 Kansas City kicks a touchback eighty three point three percent on the road. Moody 353 00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:07,200 for San Francisco, he's not as goods sixty four point eight percent on the 354 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:11,920 road. Now, the third thing is the venue, which is the stadium 355 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,920 in Las Vegas, and okay, it's it is the best stadium in the 356 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:22,400 NFL for touchbacks. It is number one, and the reason I reckon it 357 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,519 ranks overall number two. But that takes into account the home team kicker, 358 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,119 and to me, I don't give that a bunch of weight. I give 359 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:33,759 how all those other kickers that perform there. And it is number one at 360 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,279 eighty six percent touchback right, So if you try to make a little mild 361 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:40,839 of all those numbers, you're gonna come up with something in the neighborhood of 362 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,839 seventy five seventy six, you know, depending entered by a couple percent, 363 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,319 and you know it's signed that margin of arestine when you come up with something 364 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:52,400 about minus three hundred maybe minus three twenty, and that's what it is. 365 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,480 It's that that that number sits right in the middle of minus three sixty plus 366 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,839 two eight. So it's no play for me on the opening kickoff. So 367 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,839 very one that the public might that the public likes to get involved in this, 368 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:11,319 Yeah, they like they love that plus money on that. And then 369 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,240 you know, lately they've been betting the last few years that most of the 370 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,640 action and the talk is about betting the that that no, that won't be 371 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,079 a touch back because of the reasons that I just described. And then the 372 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,160 other thing that was in play in the playoffs that sometimes happens, uh and 373 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,759 and right out of the gate you have something going down, is who will 374 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:37,240 receive the opening kickoff and how that affects all the different products. And fortunately 375 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:41,599 in this game that's not in play because the team that would have taken the 376 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,599 ball had they won the coin toss, the Detroit Lions got knocked out had 377 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:53,799 they not had a whole other sense of urgency right out of the gate betting 378 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,400 the props as they put them up, because then now you have an idea. 379 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,839 Now you're pretty sure who's getting the ball first, and so all these 380 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:03,319 other things, which like what will occur for who will cross the fifty yard 381 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:07,359 liners, what team will pump first, which one of these players Kiddle or 382 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,720 Kelsey will catch a pass. All of a sudden, you got a big, 383 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:14,200 you know, a big head start if you can get down on the 384 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,599 Detroit players. And like I said, fortunately that's not in play because on 385 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,079 those Super Bowls, that takes a whole bunch more money to properly cover everything, 386 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,920 because you've got that whole thing going on right away, and then you 387 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,039 can go about betting the rest of the stuff. So now you're past the 388 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:33,279 opening kickoff, and I don't know, is there any anybody you know, 389 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,200 yeah, I have a question on that. Sure, Uh, Travis Kelcey, 390 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:45,440 there is a Taylor Swift effect a lot of the extra parts, so 391 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:51,759 he is getting extra popularity, and so the squares are going to bet he's 392 00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:56,799 going to catch more for more yards and whatever it seems like. Is that 393 00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,319 going to be a big enough effect so that betting the no on that makes 394 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:11,839 sense? Well, okay, so Chelsea is is Uh, Kelsey's lines are 395 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,640 pretty much what they should be, but people are going to give him credit 396 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:19,880 for being because first off, he's coming off a really big game. Okay. 397 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,839 Secondly there is you know, some people was like, oh, they're 398 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:29,440 gonna want to get them the ball more for various reasons which we don't really 399 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,079 need to go into. You know that they want him to do well for 400 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,599 you know, because they want to see all these the after after the game 401 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,200 and that you know, whatever happens after that. But I will tell you 402 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:47,240 that the San Francisco forty nine ers are number four in the NFL defending tight 403 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:52,640 ends. That's not a good you know that that's one check mark against against 404 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000 playing on Kelsey. The lines are already much higher than what I do. 405 00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,720 First is I I calculate all the mediums with no other I just say I 406 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,279 don't want to know his median for the season. I'll start to filter things 407 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,440 out for you know, a change a change in say snap count or recency, 408 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,079 but that really doesn't apply to him because he's on the field all the 409 00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:14,039 time and he's always going to be a target. Well, Kelsey's median is 410 00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:18,440 six receptions, and the line right now is anywhere from six and a half 411 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,559 to a heavy over to seven. So he's getting all the credit in the 412 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:27,599 world and a little more for going to be being able to overperform his seasonal 413 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,839 average. The yardage is kind of in line with what he normally is, 414 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,440 but the catches are up there, and I will have to say that the 415 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,680 long catch is also in line at around I think I saw twenty one and 416 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,319 a half and that that's what I made it. So, you know, 417 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:51,359 outside of looking to fade his number of catches, I don't really see anything 418 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,480 that's not about what it should be. We can talk about another thing in 419 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,240 a little while, because I want to cover this thing about the betting a 420 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,680 specific player to score a TV He scored in seven of eight. He scored 421 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:08,839 eight touchdowns, but he only scored in seven games, and but he has 422 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,200 a yes in the last two. So the last two games he did score, 423 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,839 and that this whole, the whole. What did I just last see? 424 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,200 That's what I want to bet on? Is another reason that Kelsey is 425 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:22,599 catching a lot of action. So I would say I can't bet him over, 426 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,920 but I might be betting him under on receptions when that peaks, and 427 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:37,400 I might have something cooking with no TV. Right, So if you want 428 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,359 to talk about the td thing, we can talk about because he's part of 429 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:48,839 another bet that I just saw on on Westgate that I think illustrates a good 430 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:56,200 concept, which is when when you're trying to evaluate these bets, people take 431 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,039 a look at the at their performance throughout the season and they start to do 432 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,400 a bunch of averaging, a bunch of averaging. So you have what they 433 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,000 did is they matched up who will score a touchdown first, Travis Kelcey or 434 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,799 George Kittle. Now George Kittle is one of the guys you have to be 435 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:18,039 very careful with when it comes to I guess you would say being a being 436 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:25,119 sure that you don't fall to counterfeiting on these tds. What that means is 437 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,319 Okay, he scored eight tds, I'm sorry, seven tds in eighteen games, 438 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:33,599 but three of them came in one game. Okay, so he really 439 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:40,400 only scored in five games and he played eighteen of them. Now, had 440 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,400 he scored in seven games, you would do reverse engineer the price that they 441 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,640 made for him, which is kittle to score TV plus one fifty. That's 442 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,880 what it should be. If he scored in thirty nine percent of the games, 443 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:59,359 which is seven into eighteen. He didn't, and he got three of 444 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,599 them against Dallas. You kind of look for an explanation for that. Well, 445 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:08,759 there is one is because Dallas is a team that you would target your 446 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:15,519 tight end more often to Dallas defensively was very good against the past and they 447 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:22,680 they were top six or better defending against every type of receiver that you know, 448 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,640 running backs, wide receiver one y, shoot two or shoot three, 449 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,000 but number seventeen against tight ends. So when you're drawing up your game and 450 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,640 said, wow, well when we really need something, you could probably get 451 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,200 it at the tight end. And they did. They got they got you 452 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,519 know, three touchdowns out of them. But that kind of screws up kittles 453 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,799 frequency of touchdown. If you're if you're just gonna sit there and average his 454 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:51,240 touchdowns into his games played. That's not the case. Now. Kansas City 455 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,759 covers the tight ends very well, and we just saw it last week because 456 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,839 at Baltimore they have literally who were the top five tight ends in the league. 457 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,240 Because when Mark Andrews went down, who's definitely a top five tight end, 458 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,759 he was replaced by the younger dude, Isaiah Likely, and that guy 459 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,079 in the stretch that he was in there the six games, he was the 460 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:15,640 best tight end in the league that was. I mean, that guy's going 461 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,240 to be a number one tight end for somebody soon. But the Kansas City 462 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:27,519 Chiefs held them Andrews to two for sixteen and I believe likely two for fifteen. 463 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,000 They shut him down in a game where Baltimore lost their mind trying to 464 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,440 pass the ball. They threw the ball thirty seven times when they normally throw 465 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,960 a twenty six. They listen, they played a dumb game. And there's 466 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,039 nobody's gonna say that Baltimore. They played like the dumbest game that you could 467 00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:45,880 see that you would see all year. They led the league in rushing. 468 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,400 They're the number one rushing team in the league. They gave the ball to 469 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,559 their running backs six times. Running backs had six carries in the entire game. 470 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:58,559 I don't know what they were thinking. And so, okay, it 471 00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:01,160 was a dumb team, but Anti City handled it. They shut they shut 472 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,440 those those tight ends down, even though they were throwing more frequently. So 473 00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:13,359 I think Kittle's got a tough match up here. So there's some things regarding 474 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,759 Kittle, and not only this little goofball thing going on with his touchdowns, 475 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:22,440 which is which is mispriced. So when you put Kelsey against him to score 476 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,680 a touchdown, you may only make Kelsey mind us a dollar forty. That's 477 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,279 attractive to me, even though I don't think Kelsey is going to be valued 478 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,839 individually to score a touchdown. I think he against Kittle, who will score 479 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,039 a touchdown first, I think is what the prop is. Yeah, I 480 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,960 like Kelsey mind us a dollar forty because when you when you when you make 481 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,960 the line for Kittle, will he score a touchdown? It's somewhere in the 482 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,880 neighborhood of plus two eighty and Kelsey is plus one sixty three. Yeah, 483 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,920 So even laying forty cents that that that's me is a bet I'm going to 484 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,839 be looking to make. Is that one you're going to wait on or are 485 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,799 you going to bet that early? I don't know. I don't know. 486 00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:01,440 I don't have it available to me. I got to have either have somebody 487 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,440 better for me or I'll be getting to town this weekend and then I can 488 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,079 run around and get it. Uh, you know, it could go up 489 00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:10,400 somewhere else. But yeah, I'm like I said, it's all, it's 490 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,000 all. It's all hinged on the fact that I think kittles in this priced 491 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,320 to score a t T across the board. All right, So we've talked 492 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,400 about Super Bowl. Hope it's a good game. Let's change the subjects a 493 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:30,679 little bit. Anthony Toluier, you have a member's book, rewarded book. 494 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,280 How was that different this year than it was last year? Oh, it's 495 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,480 better, it's a lot better. Things are changing out there a little bit. 496 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:46,559 The casinos are, you know, their gravy train is slowing down a 497 00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:49,960 little bit, you know. I mean, after the pandemic, people came 498 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,559 back and droves and the casinos were making money hand over fists like they've never 499 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:57,960 done before. So it was a it was a difficult road for us going 500 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:05,519 out there and dealing with getting them to give incentives to anybody, and that's 501 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:09,440 changing a little bit. For one thing, I think just the credibility of 502 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,159 what we do for some reasons, picked up in recent years. So we've 503 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,440 got we've got more coupons, more offers than we had last year. But 504 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,840 the value of these things and some of the creativity of it is better than 505 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,960 it's been in many years. So you know, real happy. If you 506 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,599 look at the numbers here, it's really easy to quantify the value of the 507 00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:37,480 gambling coupons. So I'll talk about that mostly, but in general, if 508 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,440 you used everything, I mean, we've got some really good room discounts, 509 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,199 we've got we've got food, we've got drinks, we got we've got attractions, 510 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,079 we've got shows, you know, the whole thing. It's like about 511 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,480 twenty five hundred worth of value. It's crazy, man. You know. 512 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,639 It's like people ask me about it and they go, you know, how 513 00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,760 many subscribers do you have? How many numbers? And I'm like, you 514 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,760 know, well, we vacillate between ten and fifteen thousand. But and I 515 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,679 just when I say that, I shake my head. You know, we 516 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,280 had to have one hundred and fifteen thousand in Vegas alone, because just because 517 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,840 of the value of this stuff. But it's a great book. It's a 518 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,239 very very good book, and I pump it up every year, like and 519 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,039 people go, man, you're such a Carney salesman, you know. I'm 520 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:19,719 like, no, it's the reality. People just don't believe it. Yeah. 521 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,239 The first thing I noticed, because I just got mine the other day, 522 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,519 and the first thing I noticed was a three to one on blackjack coupon 523 00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:32,239 and a two to one on blackjack coupon. And those two copons alone, 524 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,320 right are, Yeah, I'll give you I'll give you a load on that 525 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:43,039 because that was that was an interesting one. For years, we've had two 526 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:47,679 casinos that have paid two to one on your first black jack for a bet 527 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,360 of up to twenty five dollars. So the way to play that is pay 528 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,960 at constant twenty five's, you know, all the way through, and you've 529 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,559 got an edge on the whole thing. And the two casinos are Silver Sevens 530 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,199 and which needs to be Terribles. Then before that was you know whatever continent 531 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,440 Alan or not. But Silver Sevens and Golden Gate they've always done this and 532 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,119 every year I kind of hold my breath it's like, are they going to 533 00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:13,079 do it again? Because it's such a cool coupon, it's so much fun, 534 00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:15,239 you know, because it's not a hit and run thing. That's why 535 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,320 they like it. You give them, get somebody a match play and they 536 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,119 walk. And we've got plenty of match play in this one. We've got 537 00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,679 two fifty dollars match plays in here and two twenty five dollars match plays. 538 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,119 But a lot of players will play at once and leave. I don't blame 539 00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:30,639 them. That's what I would do too, you know. But the casinos 540 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,679 aren't crazy about that. They want people to sit and play. So what's 541 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,280 great about the first first natural paying double is that you have to play to 542 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,480 an average of twenty one between twenty one and twenty two hens before you're going 543 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,920 to hit it on average. So they don't get the hit and runners. 544 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,760 They get people sitting down and playing, and when they finally hit it, 545 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,239 whether they hit it on the first one or the one hundred and first one, 546 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,119 you know, they're usually invested to some degree. They're either ahead and 547 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,679 they want to keep playing with house money, or they're behind, they're stuck 548 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:59,360 and they want to keep playing to catch up. So this works out for 549 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,159 everybody. Players got a TV and the casino has a good shot at the 550 00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:07,599 player, and so it's a great coupon. And this year we had two 551 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:12,840 others Downtown Grand and the plaza said they wanted to do it, so all 552 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,320 of a sudden, and the other two came back on. So all of 553 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,760 a sudden, we've got four coupons paying two to one on blackjack. Well, 554 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,400 things change toward the end of the year, everything gets all jumbled and 555 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,719 everybody changes their mind. And the plaza decided and staid they wanted to do 556 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,960 a fifty dollars match play. Okay, I'm like, why do you want 557 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,320 to do that? Really, it's like the match play is going to cost 558 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,159 you more than the two to one on the blackjack, right, But they 559 00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,119 preferred to do that. They thought that'd be better for them. Meanwhile, 560 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:38,679 Silver Sevens comes back and says, okay, we're going to do that. 561 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,960 We want to do the blackjack bonus again, but we want to make it 562 00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,679 not two to one. We want to make it three to one for up 563 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:52,920 to fifty dollars, and we want to do it once a month. And 564 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,639 I'm sitting here going that's like one thousand dollars worth of value. It was 565 00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,679 a lesson I was about. And yet I go, you're going to be 566 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,960 attacked by all the people you don't want to see, and that part of 567 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,519 our job with us. People are probably out there shaking their heads, but 568 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:14,360 part of our job is to make sure that the casinos don't get slaughtered, 569 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,480 because then they won't work with us anymore. So I go back to them 570 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,760 and I, you know, I put the numbers together and I put it 571 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,239 in front of them. I go, you don't want you know, you 572 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,920 really don't want to do this. So what they settled on, which I 573 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:30,000 think is great, is three to one on your first black jack fifteen dollars 574 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,199 top bets, and you can do it once a month through what we call 575 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,599 member rewards online. So that one coupon right there, if you were to 576 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,679 play it every month, it's worth two hundred and forty six bucks an ev. 577 00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,519 And what's really interesting about this, this just shows you the value it 578 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,960 and in reverse that shows you the advantage that six to five pays is that 579 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,599 the casinos that are doing the normal twenty five dollars maximum at two to one, 580 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:59,599 the value of that coupon is like a little over ten bucks, all 581 00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:02,519 right, they're giving up ten bucks an ev the fifteen dollars one at three 582 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:07,280 to one is worth twenty dollars and fifty cents. So it's just jumping from 583 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,480 two to one to you know, to three to one, but down from 584 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,760 twenty five to fifteen. If you can follow this, it's worth more than 585 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,760 double. That's how powerful the blackjack bonuses are. That's how much it hurts 586 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,079 you when they cut it back, like in a six to five situation. 587 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,400 You know, it's really ironic that that's silver seven's because when Terribles open, 588 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:31,960 they had a two to one on blackjack promotion with a five hundred dollars may 589 00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:36,719 Yeah. I remember that. Yeah, And at midnight when it started, 590 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:44,199 every single spot went from five dollars to five hundred and the color drained out 591 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,119 of everybody's face. And it didn't last very long. They realized, oh, 592 00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:52,199 maybe we made a mistake here. Yeah. I remember walking through there 593 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:58,880 and it was like every chiseler I'd ever known. It was like a chiseler 594 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,480 reunion, but there I couldn't even get a seat. I remember that. 595 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,519 So most of them, I mean, there are a lot of chiselers who 596 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:09,199 can't afford to bed five hundred dollars. So it was it was the highering 597 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,760 they were selling their seats. They were selling on the seats. Yeah yeah. 598 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,280 But they had some new people at the Silver sevens this time, and 599 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,639 they're like, we really liked this, we like doing this with you, 600 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,840 and we want to raise it to this thing, you know, three to 601 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,639 one for fifty dollars. And I just I just had to put it in 602 00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:30,760 front of them. I just said, you know, it's up to me 603 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,880 to try to make sure that this thing goes on and on and it doesn't 604 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,519 get canceled aft it's three days. And I said, so here's how we 605 00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:38,719 want to make the adjustment. And I think it's great. You know, 606 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,400 you go, you sit down, he'say, fifteen bucks a hand, and 607 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,960 you that's the other thing. You know, it's worth twice as much as 608 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,719 the as the twenty five dollars one, but all the all the risk is 609 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,360 reduced, right you drop it from twenty five dollars to fifteen dollars, and 610 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,800 I mean, nobody's going to get hurt on this, and it's it's fun 611 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,079 and I know I love that group. And then you get it every month, 612 00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:01,760 Yeah, I know, I so go in and do it every month. 613 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,320 So another one that came out that was I thought was pretty good, 614 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:13,480 and Bob can comment on this one is the Plaza where Jonathan Jossel is a 615 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,800 is a pretty forward thinking guy. He comes to me and he goes, 616 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:22,400 what if we were to put a bonus on the on a royal? And 617 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,320 I go, well, a lot of places do bonuses. You know, 618 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,639 they'll put one hundred and fifty or two hundred on the royal or something. 619 00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:29,480 He goes, no, he goes, oh, I do five hundred. 620 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,639 I do five hundred on the Royal. I go, well, I said, 621 00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:36,679 if you put the five hundred on the royal and your quarter games out 622 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,440 in the casino, it's still negative. I go, fifteen hundred dollars. 623 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,800 Royal isn't going to do anything. He goes, no, we'll make it 624 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,639 only in the Sandellar downtown, which is there, which is their bar down 625 00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:51,840 there. Now, the machines in there are different the on the quarter machines. 626 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440 They're the same as outside, but inside on fifty cents, they've got 627 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,880 some good games, the best one being ninety six Bonus Poker Deluxe. So 628 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,440 that's like of like a nine point six ninety nine point six four percent return. 629 00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:06,239 You put the five hundred down it and all of a sudden you're you're 630 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,719 one hundred and one percent or so. So that's another one that we've got. 631 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,320 Now, you can't cash that until you hit the you know, you 632 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,360 got to sit there and play to the royal. But literally, if you 633 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,880 were to play it to conclusion, on average, it's worth like about one 634 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,360 hundred and forty eight bucks, right, Bob, that's not about right to 635 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:30,000 you something like that. But royals are hard. Yea, yes they are. 636 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,159 Yeah, But I mean think about that from their perspective. It means 637 00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,119 you're gonna be there. If you're really gonna chase that, you're going to 638 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:43,599 be in the plaza all the time and you're sitting at a bar. Some 639 00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,719 guys are gonna drink. Maybe they're not going to play that well, I 640 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:52,559 mean yeah, I mean, I don't know how many of the normal civilians 641 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,519 are going to chase a royal like that though. But here's the point. 642 00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:59,440 You don't have to play it. Really the conclusion. If you're gonna play, 643 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,920 and you want to play, you come to Vegas and you go, 644 00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:05,440 I'm definitely gonna play video poker, and fifty cents is cool with me. 645 00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:08,079 So I'm going to play there, and you don't ever play it. If 646 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,480 it happens, it happens, and all the great stuff is. And you 647 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,920 know, Bob has been the preacher of this forever. It's not about your 648 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,360 final score. It's I mean, it is about your final score, but 649 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,679 it's not about your score today. It's the way he always likes to say 650 00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:22,400 it. And as long as you're playing with an edge, you're doing something 651 00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:27,760 right. So everybody is coming out of this ahead. And that's what we 652 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,039 strive for when we put these deals together. You know. I I didn't 653 00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:37,039 know anything about Jostle at all, but I just recently discovered that the Plaza 654 00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:44,920 has a podcast called on Main Street and he's the host of the podcast. 655 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:51,760 And I was really shocked at one of the episodes I was listening to. 656 00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:57,360 It might have been the one with Salpiacente or I don't know. I saw 657 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,639 some episodes. I was like, Oh, this looks interesting, But I 658 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:06,280 was very impressed. He totally understood the advantage slot players that were down there, 659 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,440 you know, And I don't know he he came across as a as 660 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,039 a very sharp guy. To me, and I mean he's not throwing out 661 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:22,280 the slot players unless they're being abusive or whatever to other customers. And yeah, 662 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,480 anyway, I just was impressed by him after hearing him talk. He's 663 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,000 progressive, forward thinking you know, GM or owner or you know whatever his 664 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:35,679 president. His situation is there. He's the guy, he's he's in charge, 665 00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:40,159 and he's he's very thoughtful about what he does, and he's willing to 666 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,199 give a fair gamble in a play. I mean famously, there was the 667 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,079 thing where they were paying the thirty percent bonus on taxables and everybody you know 668 00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,320 flew in there and started playing Keino. This is We're doing a book called 669 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,960 Advantage The Advantage Players by Michael Kaplan, and this is all written in one 670 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:02,079 story about a guy named Eddie Tea and Jostl is in there where you talk 671 00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:06,840 about Jossell walking up the teams and going I'm going to get killed on this 672 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,880 promotion, right, and Teams goes, yeah, you are actually what you 673 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,920 know what, Frank, It wasn't Teams. It was Miller in the story 674 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,039 who was playing the teams. Yeah, but anyway, and Joscel and the 675 00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,119 guy goes, are you going to cut it off now and he goes, 676 00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:23,039 Nope, I said I'd run it till midnight, and I'm going to run 677 00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,920 it till midnight. And they lost tens of thousands of dollars. But he 678 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,920 did it, and he learned a lesson. I've been on Jossell's podcast. 679 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,400 I've been on that podcast and he asked really good, solid, smart questions. 680 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,440 He's a good guy. This is a good place. The Plaza has 681 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,760 got like seven or eight coupons in the Membor Rewards book, including two to 682 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,800 one food at three o their outlets, a fifty dollars match play, even 683 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,920 a Bengo deal, some slot play. I mean, they really, they 684 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,199 get into it. I love the Plaza. I think it's a great place. 685 00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:58,679 It's also i think the only place downtown that has single zero roulette. 686 00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:05,239 Yeah. I mean he so he is trying to, you know, give 687 00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:10,679 give a better gamble to. He wants it to be a gambling joint, 688 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,360 you know, he wants to go back to the way it always was, 689 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,840 you know. I mean they've got a great restaurant there with Oscars, so 690 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,599 they've you know, they've got all of that, but it's you know, 691 00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:24,239 it's downtown. They don't have retail, they don't have a show, they 692 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,079 don't have all the stuff. They want to make their money on the casino 693 00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:30,599 floor. So he's doing things where you've got places like like Station Casino and 694 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:34,920 Boyds. All the boys are downtown, right, and they're tight as a 695 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,880 drum, and guys like him and the Downtown Grand and places like that. 696 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,639 They're saying, you know, FHOI on you, We're gonna do it. 697 00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:45,280 El Cort has to some degree, we're going to do it. So so 698 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,719 we're giving some value back and we're going to make our money in the casino, 699 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,679 and we're going to give you incentives to play in the casino. I 700 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,199 think that's great. So are they loose with their comps? Then? I 701 00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:59,199 don't know really. I mean I hear from people and I hear that they're 702 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,400 they're pretty good. I don't know because I can't go in there and play, 703 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,920 so I don't know, but I know that you get on and they 704 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,480 send mailers, and I think overall, yeah, I think that they're aware 705 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,880 and they don't give away the store, but I think, yeah, if 706 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,039 you're in there and you're playing, you give them volume. You're gonna get 707 00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:20,719 things. So all right, So a couple of other things, a couple 708 00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,880 of other points I just want to make. We always look for cool things 709 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,599 to do, right with the with Memory Awards, and on this one we 710 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,239 got a I think it's twenty five percent off your entire bill, so that 711 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,760 includes alcohol and everything else. It might be, or it might be just 712 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,119 food only. I'm not sure. But a place down town called Verna Castra. 713 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,599 Oh yeah, yeah, it's a good, cool new restaurant down there 714 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,679 in the in the arts district. But the reason I did it, and 715 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,599 the reason I thought this was a fun thing to do, is the owner 716 00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:54,880 of that place is a guy named Jeff Wong, who's spending on our show 717 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,159 two or three times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And Jeff wrote you 718 00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,800 know what they call book on pot limit Omaha. He's a terrific gambling analyst. 719 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,559 He knows the games backwards and forwards. He's a game developer and everything 720 00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:10,239 else. But Jeff owns and runs to Vernica Stera. So go go. 721 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,159 You know, if you're an LVA member, use that one. Go go 722 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:20,000 visit a Basketbam. He'll come out and he gambling, very very cool thing. 723 00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:27,880 Yeah, he also plays. Uh I'm sorry, go ahead, go 724 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,679 ahead, go ahead fish. He also plays guitar in a band. The 725 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:37,400 band plays there sometimes they have a really cool patio on the roof and uh 726 00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:42,440 patio bar on the roof. Sometimes there's live music up there and on First 727 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,760 Fridays. It's a great place to go because it overlooks First Friday. You're 728 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:52,920 right there in the middle of it. So and it's also got a coffee 729 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,400 place attached to it called Dragon Alley. So yeah, it's a great place. 730 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,159 I remember, you know, a few years ago. It was one 731 00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:05,519 of my recommendeds at the end of the show. So you're right, that 732 00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:09,480 scene on the roof when the band plays is awesome. I mean it's it's 733 00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:14,519 really great and the food's good. Yeah. I took some I took friends 734 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:16,079 there from out of town. They're visiting from Detroit, and I took them 735 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,519 there and they're looking at me. They go, we don't have anything like 736 00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:22,719 this back home, you know, And they loved it. So yeah, 737 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,280 Tavernic Costero it's called. Now here's the other thing, the other difference. 738 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,920 You know, people you asked me at the beginning, Bob, you know 739 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,159 what's different about this one. Well, the two things that are different is 740 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,199 the creativity and the value of the Gaman coupons. By the way, I 741 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,239 didn't give you those numbers. You know, last year our Gamlan coupons was 742 00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:44,679 I think it was four hundred and ten dollars. Was totally v if you 743 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,719 use them all this year is seven hundred and forty nine dollars and fifty cents. 744 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,039 That's pretty significant. And what we call AI coupons, with AI stands 745 00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:57,639 for any idiot, meaning that you don't have to be an expert, you 746 00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,000 don't have to be playing for royals, you haven't do anything. You just 747 00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,039 played the free play in the match play. Anyone can do it, any 748 00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:06,599 of it can do it over two hundred dollars two hundred and ten dollars. 749 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,800 So you know, the significance differences are in the value, especially in the 750 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,199 Gamly coupons, but also in the traction we're finally getting with the online coupons, 751 00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:21,840 which we call MROs Memorywards Online. We talked about that earlier, how 752 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,000 you can download a thing to play the blackjack three to one, a coupon 753 00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:28,239 to play the blackjack three to one once a month. The other thing that's 754 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,400 happening is the Rio, which has been now taken over by a new company, 755 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,679 all right, the Real. For years. When The Real opened, 756 00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:38,960 it was one of the greatest casinos in Vegas. Then it got bought by 757 00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:43,559 Harris, which became Caesar's and they ran it to the ground. They just 758 00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,639 destroyed the place. It's now a dump and they sold it to this new 759 00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:52,599 group called Dream Skates out of New York. And Dream Skates brought in a 760 00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:57,440 bunch of people from the Cosmopolitan and they're putting three hundred and fifty million dollars 761 00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:00,280 into a renovation of the Real and they're trying to bring The Real back to 762 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,480 its glory. Well, part of doing that was working with us, where 763 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,039 we haven't worked with the Reel for years because Caesars doesn't want to work with 764 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:13,599 us, and they did a member we're finalizing a member rewards coupon right now 765 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,199 that will be thirty percent off the room, which is they're all suites at 766 00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:22,519 the Reel and they're renovating all the rooms, so it's a thirty percent discount 767 00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:27,519 off the room and waive the resort fee, So thirty percent off and no 768 00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,960 resort fee, unlimited amount of days up to their from which I think is 769 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,679 fourteen. Yeah, they're they're pretty I think they're going to be pretty aggressive 770 00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:37,599 because I just I'm staying there over Super Bowl the five nights and they just 771 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:43,000 sent me a comp you know, not being a Cosmo player, having been 772 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,760 a they sent me a comp room comp and they've specified no resort fee. 773 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,280 So yeah, they're pretty good like that, because that can be a really 774 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,440 annoying thing. You can be a comp player and then they still try to 775 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,719 stick you for the resort view places. Not to mention any names like MGM 776 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,719 for example, but that's a really annoying thing if you're trying to you know, 777 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,360 wait, this is their brand new How did you get a comp? 778 00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:13,440 Because I must have been in the role the role thing from either Cosmo or 779 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,960 they just took the player base from Rio and go through that. I don't 780 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,360 know how they went about it, but i'll tell you what. I was 781 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,440 there on opening night for when the new Rio, and I got a card, 782 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,840 and you know, I didn't put a lot of play on the card. 783 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,639 I didn't have time, but I did get a card and give them 784 00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:34,360 all. It could have been just from that. I don't know, And 785 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,719 I want to make clear too, I'm glad you brought that up, Frank, 786 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,079 because you know, that is what they're doing over there. I think 787 00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:43,440 we're going to see more and more good things coming out of the reel. 788 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,039 But they still charge their resort fee to the normal person. Now, if 789 00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:50,400 you get a comp and they're gonna waive them, that's a great play. 790 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,880 But that's what's so great about this Memory Wards offer, this coupon, is 791 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,880 that a person they've never seen before. They've got three thousand rooms to fill 792 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,559 up there, and so that's why they're doing this. You know, not 793 00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:04,199 only are you going to get thirty percent off the rate, they're going to 794 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,719 waive the resort for you. For you as well. This is a powerhouse. 795 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,719 I don't know how long they're going to do it. I hope they 796 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,719 do it all year, but for you know, they're gonna do it for 797 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,920 the first couple of months. It's a powerhouse. Do you know when that 798 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,800 renovation is supposed to be over, it's well, it's in progress right now. 799 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,400 I think the first thing they're doing they kept telling me they wanted me 800 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,559 to come over and see their rooms. So I think they're renovating all those 801 00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:30,000 rooms right now. And they just opened up, you know, they didn't 802 00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:32,360 the buffets have gone away in almost all the places. You know, there's 803 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,960 only twenty places with buffets now. There used to be twenty. There's say 804 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,599 twenty, I'm sorry, thirteen, there's thirty. I didn't think there was 805 00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:45,159 that. There's thirteen. I predicted they were the twenty and I'm not going 806 00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:49,880 to hit it. You know, it's going to go under. But there's 807 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,320 they're not bringing back to Carnival World to fay. But they just opened up 808 00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:57,960 their big food hall called the Canteen and it's pretty good. I went there 809 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,920 and got chicken Tenders, a New York thing that had these chicken fingers that 810 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,679 were like almost as good as Crown and Anchor. They were really good. 811 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,480 They've got cheese steak place there. They've got a Ramen place there. They're 812 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,079 doing they're gonna spit the place up. I mean, if they can bring 813 00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:13,800 the real back to anything like it was, it was always a gem, 814 00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:15,679 you know, right off the strip. It was a place to go. 815 00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:22,039 Well. I checked it out before the renovation and in terms of video poker 816 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:27,039 and slots, they had nothing interesting. So with a lot of machines turned 817 00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:30,920 off and they say new machines are coming, but it was it was a 818 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,840 really a really yawn in there, so for gambling purposes, it was not 819 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,400 exciting. I don't know. But how long ago was that, well, 820 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:45,400 a couple of different trips, the last one possibly uh a month ago. 821 00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:51,800 Yeah, really it surprised me. Now, I mean I actually I know 822 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,400 the GM there. I've known him as a friendly as the guy who hung 823 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,840 out and had beers with you know, that sort of thing. And he 824 00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:04,480 comes from Cosmo. And what surprised me about it is that they didn't do 825 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:09,400 anything to to entice people with their video poker. So I'm gonna talk to 826 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,480 him about it. You know, I've got zero and I'm gonna say, 827 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,519 look, here's one of the things you ought to be you ought to be 828 00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:16,079 doing. So I don't know if I'm gonna have any influence there, but 829 00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:21,000 I agree with you about there's nothing there, you know, ninety eight point 830 00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,280 ninety eight as far as high as they go, right, that's about it. 831 00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:31,920 Yeah, And then and the slots are not competitive with other casinos of 832 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,880 that size. What do you like like the advantage slots you're talking about the 833 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:43,360 advantage thoughts. Yeah, they had three in the highlight room. God, 834 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,400 what's the name of their ascensions? They had three of those in the high 835 00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:50,079 highlight room. That was the big target because I was there when they unveiled 836 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,719 the machine. They took the rope away and said okay, we are now 837 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,400 the Rio and you can start playing machines. And there was a foot race 838 00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:00,719 to those. But outside of that, I didn't see much. They didn't 839 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,239 really change much. It was like the only new thing that they put in 840 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,679 there, and they really weren't that good to begin with, you know, 841 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,800 prior to the switchover. So well, they got some smart people over there 842 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,039 now, I mean I know a few of them that are over there, 843 00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:16,440 and I don't know. I say, watch the real just like I said, 844 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,400 you know, watch the Downtown Grand, Downtown Grand. The Rio took 845 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,320 this idea of the no resort fee from the Downtown Grand. You know, 846 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:27,119 Downtown Grand did that with us last year and renew that again this year. 847 00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,840 So you've got two places with memorywards that you can go as a person off 848 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,960 the street and stay for no resort They and they, you know, wave 849 00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:37,880 the resort fee. And Downtown Grand is another one that's just doing things. 850 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,559 They've got to. They put in a hot dog cart so you can get 851 00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:44,880 a hot dog and a beer for two bucks. They've got a shot and 852 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,599 the beer at the bar for three point fifty. It's a shot of like 853 00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:50,960 you know, Kevin Walker, I think bourbon or something like that, really 854 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,119 good stuff. They got dollar blackjack there two or three tables going all the 855 00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:59,360 time that I'll tell you what. For quarter play, you almost can't do 856 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,320 better than that Furnace bar where they have a double double machine that that starts 857 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,159 at twelve hundred and it's a multiple progressive and it's almost always over one hundred 858 00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:13,679 percent. I hit the aces with the kickers. I want to ever play 859 00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:15,559 that game, but I hit it there the other day on the quarters for 860 00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:20,599 almost nine hundred and I mean that's high for that machine. That machine was 861 00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:22,119 at about one hundred and two percent when I was playing it. So I 862 00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:27,559 mean Downtown Grand and Rio, these are places that are working with us, 863 00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:30,000 So of course I like them, but there's a reason to like them, 864 00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,719 so I like to promote them. Hey, Bob, did do you when 865 00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:36,480 I said that as soon as they opened the gate, you know, sort 866 00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:40,079 of figuratively opened the gate for the new machines that people ran for that ascension? 867 00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:47,679 Do you do you understand why? Well, presumably they the reset by 868 00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:53,519 the manufacturer when they open them up is more positive, but that was going 869 00:58:53,559 --> 00:59:00,519 to be hit immediately, right. The reset displays every possible facet of the 870 00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:04,400 game, and because they want to show it all on one screen, the 871 00:59:04,519 --> 00:59:07,800 multiplier, the super and the regulars did, it's all there, and it's 872 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,880 all at different level. So the default is actually really good. You could 873 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,760 see it from outside, even though they had it roped off. You could 874 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,079 see that it was sitting there at you know, at resetting. If you 875 00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:20,599 could see every machine, you could see they were all the same. So 876 00:59:20,719 --> 00:59:23,000 they was That's why they were. The people were sitting there ready to you 877 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,119 know, I wasn't going to compete with them running and pushing around to see 878 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,559 one of those three machines. But I was there when they opened it. 879 00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:34,280 And yeah, people were stalking that place for two days because the default on 880 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:42,000 that machine is highly identagious. And but after they go through the default, 881 00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:49,920 it's uh ascension does become positive periodically, but it takes a while and there 882 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,519 has to be a lot of UH square play for it to become positive. 883 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,159 Well, but think about it. If if the one you're looking at is 884 00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:00,920 positive and that's the default, you know, like I said, I wasn't 885 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,599 gonna I was standing right there when the race, when they opened the thing 886 01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:06,039 and the race was on, and these guys were warning me, don't try 887 01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:07,639 to don't try to mess around. We've been waiting here for hours. I'm 888 01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:12,239 like, I'm not gonna fight you for it. But those are multi denomination 889 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,599 and then within each a nomenate nomination, there's five different Just think if they 890 01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:19,920 were all set like that. To be honest, it bothered me so much. 891 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,599 I didn't want to stick around to see if that was the case, 892 01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:23,519 where they sat in there and just made a ton of money because they got 893 01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:30,159 fifteen different shots on each machine. So I walked out. But I suspect 894 01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:37,960 that there's a good chance that that was the case. Wow. Yeah, 895 01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:40,280 I got paid off all lot for getting that up at four am to try 896 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,320 to get in there. At five am when they hooked it up, there 897 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:49,519 were already guys that had been camping out there. Well, I heard the 898 01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:52,400 same thing happened in Fountain Blue. When they opened their eyes, they're just 899 01:00:52,559 --> 01:01:01,480 waiting to get to the machines for the same reason. We have a little 900 01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:07,239 time left. Speaking of Fountain Blue, that has generally been a clusterfuck s 901 01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:13,440 that's it? Open? Is that a fair analysis? Anthony? And we 902 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:19,679 say clusterfuck on this show. That's cool. I think that I think find 903 01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:23,440 how would you what would you say? It is? Clusterfuck kind of sets 904 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:29,559 it says it pretty well. It's a strange place, man. I mean, 905 01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:34,480 the whole theme of this issue of the Advisor, the February issue of 906 01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:38,199 the Advisor is you know, Found Blue, and I think the lead is 907 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,239 what is this place? You know, I mean what does it want to 908 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,440 be? You know, does it want to be a casino or does it 909 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,320 want to be a hotel that has some gambling? And unfortunately it's the latter. 910 01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:55,360 They made this beautiful, gorgeous place that has like hardly any appeal to 911 01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,599 gamblers of any level. And I know I walked through there myself and said, 912 01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:02,760 you know, people, I know, you know, lower rollers, 913 01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:06,960 you know, middle market, low high, nobody's going to want to come 914 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,559 here really unless they're playing relatively high enough to get to get comps. Because 915 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:15,280 they got a lot of great restaurants. But the comps are horrible, I 916 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,960 mean horrible. I I you know, I heard I've just heard number of 917 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,559 horror stories of people who went in and put in big plays at the beginning 918 01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:30,599 and basically got nothing, you know, fifty bucks or something. I walked 919 01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:34,639 it with. Then again with the guy I know. I won't mention his 920 01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:39,079 name because he's in the business and probably wouldn't appreciate it. But this guy 921 01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:42,519 is an expert. And it wasn't Steve Seer. It was another guy, 922 01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:47,920 and he's an expert in you know, foreign VIPs. And he pointed out 923 01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:51,599 one thing after the next, after the next, that's wrong, and Fountain 924 01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,559 Blue and why his players would never want to go there. But they were 925 01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:57,880 doing everything wrong from the bottom up there doing everything wrong. You know, 926 01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:01,079 of all these bars, they've got thirty six restaurants and bars, many of 927 01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:05,480 them. Of that thirty six are bars, only one of them has video 928 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,559 poker, has has Bartop video poker. And that's the time in the UH, 929 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:14,079 in the in the much magetor in the sportsbook, and there's it's almost 930 01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:17,239 like they they decided they didn't want video poker. There's like hardly any video 931 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,440 poker anywhere in the whole place. You know, just these new, these 932 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,760 new new age slots and things. But it's just it's gorgeous, but it's 933 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,880 dumb. Well, so all their executives have are gone. Right, They've 934 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:35,719 lost like, what four executives in the first month that they have, yeah, 935 01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:37,440 four in the top and they've lost three more before that, so it 936 01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:42,519 was like a total of seven who were consequential there that from the time they 937 01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:45,840 decided they were actually going to open to now almost two months later, they've 938 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,119 lost seven top executives. So what does that tell you? That tells you 939 01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,440 that they're not being listened to. And this guy that I walked around with, 940 01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,679 he knew several of them. He goes, it's exactly what's going on. 941 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,920 They they're saying we need to do this and that we need to implement 942 01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:01,679 different things, and the bosses above them, all the way up to the 943 01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:04,079 owner are going, no, we know what we're doing. And they film 944 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:14,800 and have some football NFL football like that. It wast but I mean it's 945 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,679 interesting you look at something like, all right, so Durango opened two weeks 946 01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:19,159 in front of it or ten days in front of it. You know, 947 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:26,079 Durango has half the size of the of the space on the casino floor, 948 01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:31,199 but they've got something like thirty eight hundred machines. Excuse me, I'm sorry, 949 01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:35,800 twenty eight hundred machines on the floor, whereas the Fountain Blue has a 950 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,079 twelve hundred. You know, I mean, it's less than half of what 951 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,480 the small, much smaller Durango has. And I wasn't. I'll tell you 952 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,880 what, Bob, you probably can comment on this wasn't. I was pretty 953 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,559 shocked at the video poker inventory at Durango. It's the worst I've ever seen 954 01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:55,199 from the station casino. I mean, they don't even have the Lost Leaders 955 01:04:55,199 --> 01:04:58,559 in there. I heard a room or they had a messed up card when 956 01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:01,599 they went in there. Was that true? They had a messed up player 957 01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:05,719 card for you're getting my five x what they intended. I didn't hear that 958 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,400 because I don't know. Why wouldn't be the boarding pass. I mean, 959 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,519 I didn't know you would get a new card there. I don't know. 960 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,320 M What do you think, Bob? I'm sure you checked it out. 961 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,559 How sure are you? Actually? I've in uh in December, I had 962 01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:26,599 a hip replaced, and so I've been spending more time worrying about my recovery 963 01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:33,280 than I have going out and checking every last detail. Plus I'm not Station's 964 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:40,039 favorite person. I come in and play, but I'm severely restricted, and 965 01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:43,719 so it's just not worth my while to check out. So so you you 966 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,920 weren't hip enough so you had to have that replace. Yeah. Yeah, 967 01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,599 the card doesn't wear anything worth anything, so it just goes in and shoots 968 01:05:50,599 --> 01:05:56,280 from the hip. But I'm no mail there too, Bob. But that's 969 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,039 what you mean. I don't get anything out of them. My card's worthless 970 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:03,960 almost. Well, you mentioned you mentioned, didn't mention MGM grand earlier about 971 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:10,239 you know, unfriendly and you can certainly throw station casinos in there, jesus, 972 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,000 I mean grows. Say they've turned grow so the past few years, 973 01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:16,760 I hear. And how much can you bet on your sports out there, 974 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,199 Frank, I don't know. I'ven't been in town for a while, and 975 01:06:20,239 --> 01:06:24,719 I don't. I haven't haven't haven't been in there. I'll come in and 976 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,119 whatever's in there, I'll bet it on the props and then yeah it'll be 977 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,920 I'll bet they'll take at least one hundred bucks. Is that it's better than 978 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,159 Baldini? Well take that back, I'm to take that back. I just 979 01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:38,360 get mad because when they have a good line, you can only get so 980 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,079 much. And I got the fourth quarter. I know this is at the 981 01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,199 fourth quarter a Curtis guy is when it was it two hundred and fifty bucks, 982 01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:49,199 it was two hundred. Yeah, he was up to right back to 983 01:06:49,719 --> 01:06:55,920 two fourth quarter under fourteen and a half minus a quarter. That's a great 984 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,840 line. But you know, other than going up there, I don't know 985 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,199 how much you get if you can go to though. But yeah, so 986 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,559 like a lot of the app like I got rid of the wind app entirely, 987 01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:06,960 I just couldn't get anything and whatsoever. I just stopped stop some of 988 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,199 them, you just stop trying. Well, the worst part of it when 989 01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:14,480 I bet Beldini's for him and I saw it was only two hundred, and 990 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:19,920 I go, heck, I can't get any of that done. I mean, 991 01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:25,159 I I don't want to get into all the bitching about the sports here, 992 01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:29,760 but but I don't understand how that isn't bait and switch. Right When 993 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,519 you try to bet a line and they say no, you can't. You 994 01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:35,119 know, here's a price on something, you say, okay, i'll buy 995 01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:38,840 it, and then they go, no, we have a different price. 996 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,599 Now. Well, Richard, you don't understand. Somebody just walked up to 997 01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:44,559 the counter actually at two windows at the counter and bet the same thing just 998 01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:48,280 before you bet it. Yeah, it's not They're not doing anything nefarious. 999 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,079 It's nothing against you. You got what You're on a popular bed. Yeah, 1000 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,440 except it happens at the counter too, although I guess they could say 1001 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:06,599 somebody was on the Yeah, Daniell, We've had a lot of fun today. 1002 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:14,199 We've spent well more than an hour and I want to the end of 1003 01:08:14,199 --> 01:08:17,079 our shows. In the past, we had a recommended section. Now I 1004 01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:23,000 have nothing to recommend. I've been spending more times listening to hip jokes and 1005 01:08:23,159 --> 01:08:28,520 I've been worrying about what's recommended. So Richard, do you have a recommended 1006 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,399 for our audience today? Yeah, I do, because we were talking about 1007 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:38,640 Durango. I mentioned on the show a few years ago this great noodle place 1008 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:45,920 called Zang Noodle that is on Flamingo and Decatur and it's it's this fantastic Chinese 1009 01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:50,000 noodle place, but it's really small and when you go there, you almost 1010 01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:56,800 always have to stand in line. But they now have a Jang Noodle in 1011 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:02,039 Durango, so you know, maybe an extra reason for you to go out 1012 01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:06,119 there and check out Durango if you if you're a fan, of Chinese food 1013 01:09:06,199 --> 01:09:12,319 and noodles, and you know, and they make them by hand in front 1014 01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:15,399 of you. You can see the guy back there, you know, spinning 1015 01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:19,479 the dough and making the noodles and great food. All right, Yeah, 1016 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,880 well Anthony can speak way more on because I'm looking for someplace to actually watch 1017 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,560 the game, which we haven't decided yet, but you know, my basic 1018 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,039 strategy definitely is going to be to you know, for the whole Super Bowl. 1019 01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,880 Several days leading up to the superow's kind of work around the edges of 1020 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:40,319 towns, away from the hotspots, the crowded places at the crowded times, 1021 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:45,239 and you know, partake of the of the local establishments. And when it 1022 01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,359 comes for the game, I'm sure we're going to have a lengthy discussion about 1023 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:53,279 where the game is going to be watched. But you know, don't make 1024 01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:56,640 the assumption that, you know what, maybe it won't be that bad there. 1025 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:02,600 You know, it's going to be multiple times worse than you imagine most 1026 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,159 likely. So you know, take the path of least resistance and you know, 1027 01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:11,600 find yourself a comfortable place that you're you know, it's it's not going 1028 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,920 to be a New Year's Eve for you watching the Super Bowl. You're better 1029 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,640 off in some local place or at a friend's house. So that's definitely what 1030 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:23,000 piece. I have made that mistake multiple years. I said I'm gonna go 1031 01:10:23,039 --> 01:10:26,000 here, and then it just is, yeah, you can't watch the game, 1032 01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:27,880 and I'm just I'm going. I knew it. I knew it. 1033 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,479 I knew it, And every now and then a couple of them I bailed 1034 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,359 out. At halftime he said, I'm going somebody meet Curtis at the bar 1035 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,800 or something. So yeah, my my best bet is follow Anthony wherever he 1036 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,880 goes to watch the game. Probably the place. Yeah, And I would 1037 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,239 stay away from the southwest part of town by Allegiance Stadium, nowhere near you 1038 01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:51,199 don't want to be stay away with you. That very good? What about 1039 01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:57,159 Anthony, Anthony, do you have anything you recommend? Well, first of 1040 01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:00,560 all, I agree saying our is a new right. I mean, that 1041 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,479 is a great place, the Flamingo one, for sure. And they have 1042 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:09,079 something called beef pancake there, which it sounds weird, but it's not a 1043 01:11:09,119 --> 01:11:12,960 pancake. It's like it's like a soup dumpling. And they got the best 1044 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,840 spicy wants. But that's not my soul I'm with you on that one. 1045 01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:20,600 Mine. I just this. I just heard of this yesterday. Now, 1046 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,359 first of all, I'm always looking for oysters. Love oysters, love to 1047 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,000 you know, look for the deal on oysters. They used to have dollar 1048 01:11:27,039 --> 01:11:30,079 oysters all over town. They just don't have it anymore. Finally I hear 1049 01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:33,840 of an oyster place that's doing two dollar oysters. It's way up across from 1050 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:39,000 Durango, in a place called Uncommons, and it's a place called bar Oyster 1051 01:11:39,039 --> 01:11:42,279 at two dollar oysters. I go up there, No three dollars, right, 1052 01:11:42,319 --> 01:11:45,439 you want? I have dozens eighteen bucks. I'm like, oh, 1053 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,239 man, okay whatever. So I get a call yesterday, I just finished 1054 01:11:48,279 --> 01:11:53,319 the advisor. I get a call from Blair Rodman, author of Kill Phil, 1055 01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:56,439 good friend of mine, and he goes, you ever hear of a 1056 01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:00,039 place called Captain Louis up on the West Side. And I go, and 1057 01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:01,520 that's some sort of a chain. He's like, well, I guess they've 1058 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,600 got them all over the country. But he goes on Tuesdays and they have 1059 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,479 dollar raw oysters. So it's called Captain Louis. It is on the West 1060 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,039 Side. I haven't done it yet. I'm going off of Rodman's recommendation. 1061 01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:15,800 But any place that's got dollar oysters, I'm gonna stick my nose in there. 1062 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,720 Well you can let us know how it turns out. I will. 1063 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,319 You're gonna get there and it'll they'll be out. We changed is three dollars. 1064 01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:29,199 Now. Well, you know what, this happened twice because Aria was 1065 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,399 believe it or not, Aria was promoting dollar oysters in the evenings like from 1066 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:40,960 five to six only in their their food court area. Another place that replaced 1067 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,279 the buffet with the food court. And I got there and it was two 1068 01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:45,760 dollar oysters, right, And I'm like, you know, I guess that's 1069 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,279 the way they do it now, is they bump it up a dollar everywhere. 1070 01:12:48,319 --> 01:12:53,319 Two bucks ain't bad for Ario oysters. They were nice. But the 1071 01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:56,039 other one three bucks. No, I'm not going way up there again for 1072 01:12:56,079 --> 01:13:00,680 that one. But this one sounds good. Dollar oysters on Tuesdays. Very 1073 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,319 good. Thank you, Anthony, Thank you, Frank, thank you Richard. 1074 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,000 Go out and hit lots of royal flushes, everybody. Good day.