WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:13.240 Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado, Thirty years in 2 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:21.679 the Rain, fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way, Chaps twelve 3 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:25.280 o five on this pretty afternoon, Glad you're here. So much going on. 4 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:29.640 We're talking about Dave Williams, chair of the GOP. Under his leadership, 5 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:35.560 the GOP sending out this insidious, awful, toxic email that really defames 6 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:41.359 not in a legal sense, but really the fames all Republicans in Colorado. 7 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:45.560 Because when the GOP sends out an email using the word hate to a referring 8 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.679 to gay people, of course, what's the message going to be? GOP 9 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:52.240 Republicans hate gay people, and nothing could be further from the truth. I 10 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:56.520 don't know about Dave Williams himself, who's behind this apparently, but because Dave 11 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.039 won't come on the show to talk about it, but I can tell you 12 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.439 a guy who used to be a Democrat and has now spoken to an awful 13 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:06.799 lot of Republican groups over the years and everything else, Republicans do not hate 14 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:08.840 gay people. Quite the opposite. Now, Republicans have their head on right 15 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.920 when it comes to public policy. No, gay rights and trans rights don't 16 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:19.599 trump religious liberty. They don't trump free speech, they don't trump parents' rights. 17 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.599 We've got to fight very, very hard to hold on to our religious 18 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.159 liberty, hold on to free speech, hold on to parents' rights, and 19 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:32.599 more when it comes to pushing back against this radical administration that's trying to impose 20 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:38.640 its will when it comes to LGBTQ plus stuff. Right, So, on 21 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.959 a policy issue, Republicans have their heads on right now. I bet they 22 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:45.400 are an awful lot of Democrats who agree with Republicans on that. But when 23 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:49.959 it comes to the human piece, to basic love and respect, dignity, 24 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.599 etc. No, it is the exact opposite. Now, I can tell 25 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:56.719 you all these different Republican groups, I've had the privilege to speak at all 26 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:01.280 these different events everything else, I haven't picked up any animus whatsoever when it 27 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:06.879 comes to gays, as the reality is that right everybody knows gay people, 28 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:08.159 a lot of people have gay people in their family, a lot of people 29 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:12.479 work with gay people. This and that that animis just isn't out there. 30 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:15.240 So why in the world if you were sitting there and you were on the 31 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:22.360 left and you wanted to absolutely destroy whatever's left of the Colorado Republican Party, 32 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:28.360 and you wanted to absolutely destroy the reputation of Colerad of Republicans in Colorado. 33 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.479 You're sitting there on the left, you're evilly trying to plot that. And 34 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:35.520 what do you do. You have a chance to talk to the party chair. 35 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:37.560 What do you do you say to the party chair? Hey, send 36 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.360 out an email that says you hate gays, right, that's these So of 37 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:45.840 course that's what the Colorado gop I put that in quotes because it doesn't represent 38 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:50.960 Republicans in Colorado. That's what Dave Williams does, and it causes so much 39 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.680 harm. But it just as bad. The worst part of it is the 40 00:02:53.719 --> 00:03:00.520 way that it really does to fame and slime all Republicans in Colorado and those 41 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:06.159 who are active in the party, who are overwhelmingly really great people doing hard 42 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.960 work to try to benefit all of us, and it slimes them as some 43 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:14.800 kind of gay haters, which is false. So that's the worst part of 44 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:16.120 it, you know, and there are a lot of really bad parts of 45 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:22.520 it. And the second worst part of it is it hands the political opponent 46 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:27.759 on these very important issues. Religious liberty is a big blanking deal, freedom 47 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:31.080 of speech is a big blanken deal. Parental rights is a big blanken deal. 48 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:35.199 These are issues we need to fight through the courts, fight through the 49 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:42.080 political channels to win on But we win with law and logic and reason and 50 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.400 love. We don't win with hate and have a party chair who wants to 51 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:52.400 represent us as haters, the opposite of us. It should not be tolerated. 52 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:57.879 And we know Dave isn't going to resign that whoever does is central Committee, 53 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.879 whatever needs to stand up and make a change. And the interest of 54 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:05.159 the cause is that we all share and believe in. With these issues being 55 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:09.240 so important, standing up to the left on all these issues, would you 56 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:15.280 want to hand the political opponents these easy victories. It's a betrayal of the 57 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.319 causes we all believe in. Why so one guy can light his hair on 58 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:23.879 fire and get a lot of attention that maybe helps his primary No, that's 59 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:28.600 not who we are. And this is where real leaders like Barb Kirkmeyer and 60 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.439 Nancy Palazzi with the JEFCO GOP, they know they're going to take a lot 61 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.839 of abuse, they know they're going to take a lot of heat. Everybody 62 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:42.519 can see how Dave tries to fire back on his opponents but they're willing to 63 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.000 stand up for what's right here, and Republicans all over the state need to 64 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.160 do that. Whether they consider themselves grassroots or establishment or somewhere in between, 65 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:54.759 it doesn't matter. He is undermining all of you. He is undermining everything 66 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:58.920 you believe in those causes, and he's making you look really bad in the 67 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.360 process, unless, of course, you do hate gays, then you're loving 68 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:08.360 it right. But I haven't met a single Republican who does it. Certainly 69 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:12.959 doesn't represent the party. Dennis and Parker, you're on the Dan Kaplas Show. 70 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.839 Welcome, Greetings, greetings, very nice to take a little bit of 71 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:21.720 your time, and I apologize for my lack of knowledge and eloquence that you 72 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:27.279 command. And I'd like to just divert a little bit from what you're talking 73 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:33.480 about. I know your topic is Dave Williams, but I think the Democrats 74 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:39.519 are laughing all the way to the ballot box in being able to divert and 75 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:49.079 cast a negative sponge on the Republicans. What I've done, I was telling 76 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:55.000 your screener that the past two elections, what I've done is I've taken my 77 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:59.639 ballot, I've signed it with my left hand, not my right hand. 78 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.959 Normal. Sure. I've also taken in the in the script on the top 79 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:06.000 that gives you the instructions on how to vote and all that stuff. I 80 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:12.600 put a code in there, which I've taken a picture of I've got from 81 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:17.639 my own records. And what is really funny is that my ballot was accepted 82 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:21.199 and said, oh, thank you for voting, and blah blah blah. 83 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:27.240 So I'm saying that the Jenna Griswold gold standard is far from gold standard. 84 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.839 Dennis, let me interrup one second, only because we have people all fired 85 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.360 up on this Dave Williams stuff, and I've got to stand on that topic. 86 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:36.720 But you're telling me you intentionally made your signature, it was your signature, 87 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:42.040 but made it look like something else and it got accepted anyway. Did 88 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:45.199 you then have to did you pursue that through any channels? I'm not saying 89 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.839 you should have. I'm just curious. I would love to. I just 90 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:54.000 don't know what the right you know to verify standing in that. Yeah? 91 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:57.160 No, no, no, I'm fascinated by this. Dennis. Can you 92 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:59.879 be this favorite? Can we talk off airon I'll get you back on air 93 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.920 so you can make whatever case you want to the people. But I just 94 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:06.360 want to see if there's a way for us to use this experience to test 95 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:11.639 the system and try to get to the bottom of just how high these verification 96 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.639 standards are. So, Kelly, could you get Dennis's info and give him 97 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:19.759 my cell also so we can talk off air. Yes, Mike, thank 98 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:23.360 you, Mike and Lakewood, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome. 99 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:29.399 Oh yeah, Hi, Dan. I don't agree with you what he says, 100 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:31.439 like Christians are supposed to love everybody, and you know, I hate 101 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:35.079 to stay in that center. But at the same time, he's America and 102 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.759 his constitution, and he's had a right to say what he wants to say. 103 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:42.519 And I've never heard of anybody it's been Republicans, you know, back 104 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:46.560 up, somebody slimming gay people, the gay people, the gauge in as 105 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.639 a gig governor, the Gate movement into the whole town thing, disrespect anybody 106 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:56.519 other than themselves. All they do is bass and make everybody look stupid, 107 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:01.279 family, stupid mom, and stupid transaxals A great I mean, they're just 108 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.920 literally destroying our society with their opinion and shoving in our face and then when 109 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:07.279 someone wants to bask to them and then it's not back to what he did. 110 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.759 Everybody's all over this guy, Why don't you know? I mean, 111 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:13.439 we could be all over the gays all day long with what they're doing as 112 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:18.600 far as being stupid and being out of line all day long, and nobody's 113 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.199 doing it. So I think the society is too much respect for gay people 114 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.519 as a whole, and they want to worry about offending gay people. Now 115 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.399 when the Republicans are going to look bad because one guy offended of the gay 116 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:35.240 people, I'm fine with it. It's a dirty stop. It's a dirty, 117 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.679 sloppy war of words that we both use and today use it to a 118 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:41.600 hundred times what we do. But the one time we do it, we 119 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.919 want to hang and find the guy that that does it. Where's you know, 120 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.919 where's our forgiveness? Where's their forgiveness? I don't hear them calling them 121 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.120 and complain about him. You know, you can talk all day long about 122 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.120 what someone wants to say and and Serry's the Republican? Are you leader? 123 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.799 Wherever he is? Literally? But I don't know. I give him a 124 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:05.799 couple of days. Maybe he'll call you, and maybe you can talk to 125 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:07.799 him, maybe you can go along there. And I wouldn't mind he what 126 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.200 he has to say. I'd love to hear what he has to say. 127 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.559 I think the reason we haven't been able to get him on air is he 128 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.000 can't defend what he's done, Mike, because if somebody really cares about these 129 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.840 causes, because what you have is is first of all, and when you 130 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.200 say gay people quote unquote, I think that's way too broad because if you're 131 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:30.159 talking about the typical gay person, do you know gay people, Mike, 132 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.840 I'm sure you do. I have one, And so you probably have no 133 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:39.200 problem with that person, right, No, not until it gets deep rooted 134 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:48.120 into their what they really think, and bright until the conversation turns to politics. 135 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.879 I get Thanksgiving dinner. You don't have any problem with that person, 136 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.879 right, You don't sit around hating on that person. You've got concerns on 137 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.759 a policy level. You want to make sure that there's religious liberty, that 138 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.120 they're free speech, that parental rights are protected, that the government is an 139 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:09.840 indoctrinating kids into a particular sexuality. So you, like the rest of us, 140 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.879 have all these serious concerns. And Mike and I can give you detail 141 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.480 after detail. There are all sorts of serious people working on multiple levels every 142 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:24.120 single day to stand up to that far left agenda. They're working through the 143 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.200 courts all the way up to the US Supreme Court, that they're working through 144 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.679 politics. They're doing everything they can to win on these critical policy issues. 145 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.600 And then you get just a wild eyed flamethrower like Dave who comes in and 146 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:43.240 as party chairs, starts throwing the hate word around, and all he does 147 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:48.759 is hand those political opponents a huge victory and undermine the Republicans who are actually 148 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.440 working to win on the policy issues. So it may be a short term 149 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:58.120 sugar high for some to see Dave throw these bombs, but it undermines the 150 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.759 cause. And it's all I'm so hateful. I'm sure that's not who you 151 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.600 are, Mike, It's not who I am. It's not who Republicans are. 152 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.320 You don't hate that family member. But Dave wants to throw on the 153 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:13.960 hate words so he can get more attention. That's awful and extremely counterproductive, 154 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:28.399 a gift to the opponents, flines and text on fire as they should be. 155 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.000 This is a seminole moment, right, I mean, the GOP in 156 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.000 Colorado is a tough slog as we fight back against all the different forces aligned 157 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.720 against us. But that doesn't mean we can just give up. And right 158 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.679 now it's like a give up moment when you've got Dave Williams doing these crazy 159 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:50.519 goofy things that undermine our causes and the party. And the question is whether 160 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.159 enough folks in the party, the Central Committee will rise up to just say, 161 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.480 hey, if we love you, and I like Dave, but you 162 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:00.600 cannot be our party chair. These causes are more important than you. You 163 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.159 know, this state is more important than you. Eight y five for zero 164 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.480 five eight two five five the number. So I want to get to those 165 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.639 calls and text. Here's a text, Dan, If you spend as much 166 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.440 time talking about the liberal screw ups as you do bashing our fellow conservatives, 167 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:18.320 we might actually win something. Texter, I wish you would call. The 168 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.600 nice thing is these shows are all on tape, right, and so the 169 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.039 percentage of time I spend bashing the left to criticizing the right is probably ninety 170 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:33.320 nine to one. And that's deserved because I'm a truth teller, right Listen, 171 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.960 above all, I don't care what Republicans think to me. A Democrats 172 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.679 are un affiliateds. I care about what like that ultimate judge up there thinks 173 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.440 of me. I try to be a truth teller and I come on here 174 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:46.600 every day and I turn that mic on. And if you think I'm wrong 175 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.039 about something, as Prime says, I ain't hard to find, you can 176 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.720 text me, you can call me, you can show me where I'm wrong. 177 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.960 So if you think I'm unfairly criticizing Dave Williams, please tell me, 178 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.080 but understand the and show me show everybody back it up or pack it up. 179 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:07.519 But the reason, the reason right now I'm speaking up is because if 180 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:13.000 you care about conservative causes, if you care about conservative candidates winning, then 181 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.600 you must do whatever you can do to try to assure that Dave Williams has 182 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:22.519 removed his chair, because right now, if he was trying to undermine our 183 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.159 candidates and our causes, how could he do it any more effectively than what 184 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:30.720 he's been doing these last few weeks. So thank you for your text, 185 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.639 but please do call Dan. I miss KBB Dan. That's the best analysis 186 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.799 I've ever heard you give. Dan. Thank you so much. I now 187 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.559 know where you come from. Shame on you again. Please do call the 188 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.759 show. I don't know whether you're coming from the left or the right on 189 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.600 that or whatever. You can be sure the left doesn't want me saying these 190 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:56.159 things. The left wants Dave Williams to be party chair for life. That 191 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.879 Dave Williams right now is the biggest gift to the left in color it has 192 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.480 ever received. Tammy and Aurora, you're on the dan kaplas shall welcome. 193 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:13.679 Dan. I obviously don't am not privy to these emails that you keep referring 194 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.240 to, and I'm not sure you know how things rewarded except for the snippet 195 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:26.120 that you gave us, which in which you said that Dave Williams said God 196 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:31.559 hates pride. So I went on to the Twitter feed for both Dave Williams 197 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:37.960 Rep. And the Colorado GOP, and what I see him saying is that 198 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:46.799 he is speaking out against this ideology, not against any individuals like you know 199 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:52.759 you keep referencing the GAZE. I don't think that that's what he's doing. 200 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:58.960 And I agree with your previous caller that the Colorado GOP is supposed to be 201 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:07.039 be about our freedoms and our liberties, and that includes free speech and one 202 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:16.279 more thing us giving back to the left by our silence or oh that's okay, 203 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.720 we'll get you next time has never gotten us one inch, not one 204 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:28.279 So we haven't keep coming until they get everything they want. And you think 205 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.600 this is the way to win, Timmy, you think this is the way 206 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.759 to win. I think he's speaking about the ideology, and I think it's 207 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:39.480 time we all start speaking up about the way they that the left is ramming 208 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.679 this down our throat. And I do it every day on air a great 209 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.840 personal expense. But getting back to my question, do you think this is 210 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.360 the way to win? It's not. And you're obviously a very smart, 211 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.879 articulate person, and you cannot make the case that this is the way to 212 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.039 win. And guess what. The only way we get to stop the left 213 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.440 from doing all these awful things that they're doing to children in Colorado and doing 214 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.200 everybody in Colorado is to win. This is the way to lose. But 215 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:08.120 have you seen that the June third email. It's not a tweet, it's 216 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:14.679 an actual email sent by the Colorado g That's why I started out by saying, 217 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:18.000 I haven't been proving to these specific emails fair enough because you have a 218 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:25.720 normal life. Yeah, let me reference that email Okay, first the email 219 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:29.679 quote god hates pride, But then there's also, as I read it, 220 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:33.360 and somebody correct me if I'm seeing it wrong, there's also a video linked 221 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:37.120 where it says God hates flags, which appears to be a thinly veiled reference 222 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.600 to that awful Westboro church, God hates fags. And then, to relieve 223 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:47.000 any doubt, it goes on to say, this email from the Colorado GOP, 224 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:49.879 the month of June has arrived and once again the godless groomers in our 225 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:55.399 society want to attack what is decent, holy and righteous so they can ultimately 226 00:16:55.440 --> 00:17:02.320 harm our children. So can you agree that thesage that's being received everywhere here 227 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:07.440 and across the country is the Colorado GOP hates gays. I mean you use 228 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.160 that H word. That H word is nuclear and that's the message that everybody's 229 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:18.599 receiving. No surprise. Well, I think you're narrowing it down a little 230 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:22.279 too too small to say it's just about the gaze, because we all know 231 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:29.319 that this movement, the LGBTQ movement, is not just about the gays. 232 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:34.119 Well, right, I think that you know that's that's a mistake on our 233 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:40.599 part to narrow it down to one community. And by the way, did 234 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:45.880 you know that there is a huge movement within the gay community right now to 235 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:52.640 separate from the LGBTQ and Timmy, we want to be included in that. 236 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.720 Yeah, and Timmy, we're losing the connection. I have to this break. 237 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.400 But to your last point, this is critical. Your point about LGBTQ 238 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:04.920 movement is not necessarily about the gays. There's no question in my mind that 239 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:10.720 the left is using this movement to try to undermine religious liberty more broadly, 240 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:18.279 undermine parental rights more broadly, undermine First Amendment speech more broadly. And those 241 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.079 are very very dangerous things, which makes what Dave's doing even worse because we 242 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:27.079 need to win on those policy issues, which means we need to win elections, 243 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:32.319 which means we need more people in the republic Party. Who do you 244 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.759 think wants to join the Republican Party now? After the GOP reed, Dave 245 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.160 sends out an email like that and represents us to be the party of hating 246 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:41.720 gays. Yeah, that's a way to win, right, No, it's 247 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.799 a gift to our opponents. These issues are too important. We need to 248 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:57.960 win. So this is the first time I've said this, and for those 249 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:03.319 hotel workers, people that get tips, You're going to be very happy because 250 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:07.319 when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips 251 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:12.799 people making tips. Whether you like the post or not, that that's the 252 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:17.880 Trump we know in love all the fresh ideas, the different stuff. Nobody 253 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:22.200 saw that coming, I'm sure Button. Oh my goodness, can you imagine 254 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.240 the reaction in his camp when they heard that. I mean, and we'll 255 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:29.279 get back to talking about that. I think it's fascinating and it's going to 256 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:33.039 help them tremendously. Hey, let's go to the VIP line and happy to 257 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.200 welcome Jeff Herd back to the show. He's running for Congress in CD three, 258 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.359 which, as you probably know, is a district Lauren Bobert is representing 259 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.599 currently, but now she's running in the CD four race. Jeff, welcome 260 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.000 back to the Dan Kapla Show. Hey, Dan, great to be here. 261 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.920 Well, thank you my friend. Since we last chatted, I think 262 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.480 I saw a poll come out and the poll had you way ahead, but 263 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:59.720 a whole bunch of people undecided. Was I reading that right? That's right. 264 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.880 It's an encouraging poll. It shows we've got strong fundamentals, but it 265 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:04.279 also shows us a long ways to go, and we got to keep our 266 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.640 foot on the gas. Yeah, and not too long right. June twenty 267 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:12.359 five, fifteen days, two two weeks from tomorrow. Oh my lord, 268 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:17.359 I bet you can't wait funch time. I bet you cannot plait. But 269 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:19.960 so for those who weren't with us last time. And by the way, 270 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.359 all of the candidates are welcome on this show, of course, tell us 271 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:27.720 a little bit about yourself. Sure, So, I am a Cauroro native. 272 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:32.759 I grew up here on the Western Slope, family man, five kids, 273 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.599 been married to my wife for it'll be nineteen years in about three weeks. 274 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:42.920 I have spent my professional career helping rural Colorado, primarily rural electric cooperatives, 275 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:47.599 and not a career politician, hardworking, authentic. And I'm the guy 276 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:51.279 that's going to beat Adam Fish in the November election. Boy, and I 277 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:53.200 think there are a lot of Democrats who believe you're going to beat him as 278 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:59.519 well. But Jeff, this primary, how many candidates are in the primary 279 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.640 right now? There are six candidates in the primary as you're out there right 280 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:10.039 now. Is it what we would expect right now? Immigration, inflation, 281 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.319 et cetera. Is that topping the list of concerns, or is there some 282 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:17.759 sleeper issue out there. Nope, that's it. They's securing the border is 283 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:21.440 issue number one. So energy in dependence is something that's big here in southern 284 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.200 and western Colorado. And then protecting water, n egg, those are the 285 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:26.200 core issues. That's what I hear about, and that's what I'm going to 286 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:32.000 fight for and for those who are still and I gather from that poll and 287 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:36.720 an awful lot of people who are familiar with the candidates prefer you. But 288 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:41.519 obviously there are a bunch who aren't familiar with any of you yet. Beyond 289 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.000 the obvious bio points, what is it about you? What is it about 290 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:49.599 what you've done in your life, maybe beyond your children and your wife, 291 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:55.839 your proudest moment. Tell people something they haven't heard about you that shows them 292 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:00.839 the real you. Well, I'm the guy that's hardest to keep your electricity 293 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:06.640 bills low, and so if you care about keeping your the cost of electricity, 294 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.440 the cost of energy low, I'm your guy. That's what I've spent 295 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:12.720 my career doing, representing rural electric cooperatives up and down the Western Slope, 296 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.359 trying to fight bad government regulations, that increase the cost of your electric bill 297 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.839 every month. That's kind of the core thing. So if you care about 298 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:23.359 those things, if you care about low cost energy, low cost food, 299 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:26.799 you know, saving at the grocery store, saving at the gas pump. 300 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.880 That's what I've dedicated my career to professionally, and that's what I've been doing 301 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:36.440 Washington, is help you save money and lower your cost of living. And 302 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.440 if you're looking for somebody that's fought in his career doing that, and we'll 303 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:41.640 do that for you in Congress, Jeff Hurd is your guy? Is there 304 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:47.799 something from your life, your personal life, just some moment in your life 305 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:52.599 that you know shows the best of your character or might really sum you up 306 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.599 for folks. You know, one thing I think people are surprised to hear 307 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.640 about me is actually I did not have any plans to ever go into politics. 308 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.759 I was actually studying to be a priest, to believe it or not, 309 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.000 And so that's about as far from politics as as yet I thought I 310 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.880 was going to give it in. It just goes to show you never know 311 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.079 where life is going to bring in, where God's going to bring in. 312 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:18.279 I say that now as a dad of five kids, and so you know, 313 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.599 I'm definitely far away from where I expected to be. But you know, 314 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.480 God calls you to places that you don't always expect, and here I 315 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:29.160 am. See it's interesting because I was on track for the priesthood as well 316 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.400 and was sure I was going to go back. What is it that changed 317 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.720 that path for you? At first? I didn't know that, Dan, 318 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:38.160 That's that's awesome, Okay, you and I have that in commons. I 319 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:45.920 met my now wife at a yes at a conference, and next thing I 320 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.680 knew I was on the path to getting married. So yeah, yeah, 321 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.079 that's you never know what and those of you that are never aren't quite sure 322 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.119 what your path is in life. You never know what God is going to 323 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:56.480 show you. So that's exactly what happened to me, and it sounds like 324 00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:59.799 to you too, Dan. Yeah, I know, very very true, 325 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:03.359 and mine was a little bit different twist, but I knew it when it 326 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.440 happened. I've just been fixated on that path, was sure that's where I 327 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.839 was going, but then understood there was a different intent. Hey, what's 328 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:18.079 your website? Website is Jeff Heard for Colorado. That's j E F F 329 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:23.079 h U R D FO R Colorado dot Com. All right, Jeff, 330 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.119 hey, appreciate the time. Good luck out there. Thanks so much. 331 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.880 Dan, great talking with you. Take care, We'll talk to you soon. 332 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.079 Thank you. That is Jeff Hurt. Impressive cat from Everything I Can 333 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:37.319 Tell hit five five for zero five A two five five text d A N 334 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:44.759 five seven seven three nine the text blowing up as we talk about whether Dave 335 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.319 Williams should be removed as party chair. I know the calls from some are 336 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.400 for his resignation, but we all know Dave isn't going to resign. Dan 337 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.440 quit telling people they are wrong. Thanks. It would be a very short 338 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:02.160 show, right, including myself when I'm I say it. But I think 339 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:03.680 the whole point of this show is to tell the truth right, and then 340 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.720 if I am wrong, people have every opportunity to point it out. Think 341 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.440 about that. Unlike all these politicians, people in office, everything else. 342 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.200 Shannon, you know it. Shannon Scott would have the best show on Eric, 343 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.000 except he doesn't want to be in front of the mic. But you've 344 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.000 been doing this how many years now? It's ninety three? What is ninety 345 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.079 three? So we came in at about the same time. I think it 346 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.200 was ninety one for me the Clarence Thomas hearings. But yeah, I mean 347 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:33.359 there's no censor back there, right, I mean, Kelly is Saddam could 348 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.319 call and she'd put him on what should break some news? Right she would 349 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:42.160 say, sir, I'm having a very hard time understanding. See, that's 350 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:48.039 what I mean. If Shannon Scott would sit in front of this microphone every 351 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.559 day, I would probably quit my job to listen to your show. Right, 352 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.240 well, I wouldn't have a job because you'd take this show or any 353 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.839 other show you wanted. No, guy's hilarious. But that's the point is 354 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:03.160 if I'm wrong on some thing, Texter, everybody in the world has an 355 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:07.599 open door to come in and show it. So you got to speak the 356 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.359 truth, and the truth means talking about who's right and who's wrong. Ah 357 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.559 Dan, It's amazing to me. Dave Williams actually considers himself a Christian. 358 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.200 I guess he's qualified to cast the first stone. Mike and Henderson, Listen. 359 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:26.880 I don't. I don't get into that for anybody. Listen. I'm 360 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.000 so focused on my own flaws when it comes to who's a good this or 361 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:36.000 who's a good that. You know what I'm talking about? Is when somebody 362 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:42.960 as party chair uses God as a sword to attack their opponents or to attack 363 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:48.279 those in the party who question what he's doing, while at the same time, 364 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:57.160 in my opinion, he's misusing the faith, He's undermining the causes through 365 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:02.240 the tactics he's employing. That's what I don't like. In terms of whether 366 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:06.240 Bobby or Billy or anybody else is a good Christian or a good Catholic or 367 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:10.799 a good Jew or whatever. I never address that. That's I'm the last 368 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:14.880 person on the planet qualified to talk about that, you know. I'm just 369 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:19.839 talking about what somebody's doing as party chair when they go out and put up 370 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:26.200 a message like God hates flags, which is I think a thinly veiled reference 371 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:33.160 to the horrific God hates fags of that awful Westboro Church, and you know, 372 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.240 God hates pride in this and that it's just an associating God with hate 373 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:45.400 in a political context like this just just kind of painting Republicans as haters, 374 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.680 which is so fundamentally unfair. Think about it. You probably know a lot 375 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.240 of people in the GOP. You may be in it yourself. I know 376 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.839 a lot of people in the GOP. If you do you know they are 377 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.680 not haters, They are the opposite of that. But people outside the GOP 378 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.240 all the knows the stereotypes. So all Dave's doing is feeding that awful, 379 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.920 unfair, dishonest stereotype and handing the left a gift. No, no, 380 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.160 it's it's time for a change. But those who disagree will take you first 381 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.759 eight five to five for zero five eight two five five text d an five 382 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:27.480 seven seven three nine five to fifty one, Glad you're here. Phone lines 383 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:33.119 and text have been exploding, especially the text in Fuego Dan. If the 384 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.000 Central Republican Committee does not remove Dave Williams, and I will remove myself and 385 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.720 all my financial support from this party. This man has broken party rules, 386 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:42.799 He ruins a reputation, and he must be outed. That is the only 387 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.480 way I have to speak to the party as my membership. If they will 388 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.720 not listen, I will not speak to them anymore. Text Obviously, I 389 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.039 have no idea who this texture is or what they contribute to the party, 390 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:59.400 et cetera. In terms of and I agree obviously that Dave should not be 391 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.359 the party share anymore. At this point, his actions have the effect of 392 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.200 helping the opponents tremendously and making the GOP look bad. I don't know of 393 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.480 any party rules that Dave's broken, though I think Dave has had been behind 394 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:18.519 rule changes that allow things that don't make any sense, such as for the 395 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.240 GOP to endorse in primaries. I thought the job of the GOP was to 396 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.440 provide a level playing field so the candidates could do it out in a primary 397 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.160 and the voters could make the choice. But I don't know that he's broken 398 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.359 any party rules. I just think he's done a lot of things that undermine 399 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:38.559 the causes, undermine the party, undermine our candidates, and help the left 400 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:44.480 win, which goes to I've had a number of texts along these same lines. 401 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:49.839 I'll paraphrase it, Dan, Dave Williams has infiltrated the GOP. Now 402 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:55.079 he's trying to undermine or destroy the GOP from inside. You said he used 403 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:56.279 to be a Democrat. I think he still is. No, forgive me, 404 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.279 I used to be a Democrat. I'm not saying Dave Williams, so 405 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.720 what's effort a democrat? Not at all. And we've had a number of 406 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.799 Texters say, hey, do you think he's like Ken Buck? Now? 407 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.680 Do you think he's trying to help the left. No, I don't, 408 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.119 not at all. I think Dave's a very smart guy. I enjoyed Dave. 409 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:21.359 I think on some level Dave must understand right that that he is helping 410 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:26.279 the left here and hurting the causes that he says he believes in. But 411 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.599 maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's just so close to this 412 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:37.079 now and so focused on his own election and attracting attention to himself that maybe 413 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:42.039 that's he's he's just completely missing this bigger picture right now. Eight F five 414 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.799 for zero five A two five five the number textda N five seven seven thirty 415 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.680 nine. But no matter what his intent is, the effect is obvious. 416 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:55.400 Right. He's undermining the cause is he's undermining our candidates. He's making it 417 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:59.160 much harder to win now and into the future, and he's helping the left 418 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.359 win. That's a pretty bad cocktail where I come from. Kevin in Beautiful 419 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.720 Boulder, you're on the Dan Kaplis show. Welcome. Speaking of God, 420 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:14.680 I said, speaking of God, Yes, I'm in favor of what Trump 421 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:21.680 proposes with getting rid of the income tax for certain people, because in the 422 00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:26.839 Bible, God requires the gold and silver standard, and the constitution requires a 423 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.480 gold and silver standard, but we don't have that now because the banks created 424 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.359 and own the federal Reserve system. So allow me to play this sounstitutional money 425 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.079 to tax and there is no constitutional money to pay a tax with. Okay, 426 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.440 let me let me play the sound for the folks who aren't familiar with 427 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.599 what you're referring to. So this is the first time I've said this. 428 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.759 And for those hotel workers and people that get tips, you're going to be 429 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.880 very happy because when I get to office, we are going to not charge 430 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.839 taxes on tips people. And I think, wow. So what do you 431 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.759 think of that underlying policy, Kevin? Do you have any thoughts on that 432 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.279 separate apart from federal reserve, gold standard, silver standard, et cetera. 433 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:15.839 What do you think of the policy? Well, it plays favorites with certain 434 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.319 people, unless he's going to apply it to every worker, But in general, 435 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.319 I'm in favor of it because nobody should pay an income tax in this 436 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.519 country. Okay, Kevin, have you tried that? Have you tried that 437 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.839 at home? Not pay an income tax? I'm saying nobody should. Okay, 438 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:37.200 Okay, everybody should have a big tax revolt. And just refuse to 439 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.279 pay income bat you pay yours and lawful for many reasons, but you pay 440 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.640 yours. No, I don't pay. I paid income tax. I'm seventy 441 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:51.759 four. I paid income fifty once and that was nineteen seventy four, and 442 00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.440 then you something like dollars did you owe income tax in other years and you 443 00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.680 just didn't pay it? I didn't owe tax at all for the reason I 444 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.480 just gave you. But I paid. But I didn't know that then, 445 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:10.480 Okay, So I paid fifty dollars on income that I thought qualified for an 446 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:15.039 income tax in nineteen seventy four. And were there other years when you know, 447 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.200 the government said that you owed income tax, but you chose not to 448 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.960 pay The government never said anything, okay about that? Okay, Kevin, 449 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.160 all right, I get it. First of all, do not follow Kevin's 450 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.119 lead. Do not follow Kevin's advice. Follow the law. If you want 451 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:37.000 to change the law, go change the law. Right. Sorry. It's 452 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.880 just frustrating to me when people won't give a direct answer. And I appreciate 453 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.119 Kevin listening. I hope he listens forever. I hope he calls all the 454 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:49.160 time. But let's give a direct answer and follow the law, unless you 455 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:53.359 don't like it, then change the law. But wow, well, anyway, 456 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.559 we'll continue to follow this story during the week, you know, whether 457 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.680 there's going to be more of a movement to seek Dave's Ousters party chair. 458 00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:12.480 But I think what's most critical ultimately is that people just speak up against this. 459 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.440 You know, it's not personal. Again, I really like the guy, 460 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.199 and he's always welcome here, and we've had a lot of great conversations. 461 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.519 But Dave is doing so much to harm the causes right now, so 462 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.000 much that has the effect of helping the other side so much. That's just 463 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:30.039 flat wrong. I just think it's very important for everybody to go on record 464 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:35.840 on this. It just shouldn't be ignored at this point. Tomorrow we'll be 465 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.320 following. You know that you would think, in the normal course sense, 466 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.559 it appears to be an absolutely slam dunk case that Hunter Biden would be convicted 467 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.599 tomorrow on these charges. For the reasons I've talked about. I think that 468 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.559 Joe Biden is probably pulling very hard for a Hunter Biden conviction. I think 469 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.800 the whole Biden clan is pulling hard for a Hunter Biden conviction so they can 470 00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.960 then say oh, you got your pound of flesh. Everybody's equal under the 471 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.599 law. And hey, what about those tax evasion charges that then start to 472 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:06.079 get into the money, like where did Hunter get that money and why did 473 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.519 he have that money? Was it to buy influence through Joe? Yeah, 474 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:14.679 they want to distract and deflect. Probably the best thing that could happen to 475 00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.000 Trump would be for Hunter Biden to be acquitted tomorrow, but expect a conviction. 476 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.400 Thank you Shannon Scott, Thank you, Kelly. Join us tomorrow.