Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado, Thirty years in
the Rain, fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way, Chaps twelve
o five on this pretty afternoon, Glad you're here. So much going on.
We're talking about Dave Williams, chair of the GOP. Under his leadership,
the GOP sending out this insidious, awful, toxic email that really defames
not in a legal sense, but really the fames all Republicans in Colorado.
Because when the GOP sends out an email using the word hate to a referring
to gay people, of course, what's the message going to be? GOP
Republicans hate gay people, and nothing could be further from the truth. I
don't know about Dave Williams himself, who's behind this apparently, but because Dave
won't come on the show to talk about it, but I can tell you
a guy who used to be a Democrat and has now spoken to an awful
lot of Republican groups over the years and everything else, Republicans do not hate
gay people. Quite the opposite. Now, Republicans have their head on right
when it comes to public policy. No, gay rights and trans rights don't
trump religious liberty. They don't trump free speech, they don't trump parents' rights.
We've got to fight very, very hard to hold on to our religious
liberty, hold on to free speech, hold on to parents' rights, and
more when it comes to pushing back against this radical administration that's trying to impose
its will when it comes to LGBTQ plus stuff. Right, So, on
a policy issue, Republicans have their heads on right now. I bet they
are an awful lot of Democrats who agree with Republicans on that. But when
it comes to the human piece, to basic love and respect, dignity,
etc. No, it is the exact opposite. Now, I can tell
you all these different Republican groups, I've had the privilege to speak at all
these different events everything else, I haven't picked up any animus whatsoever when it
comes to gays, as the reality is that right everybody knows gay people,
a lot of people have gay people in their family, a lot of people
work with gay people. This and that that animis just isn't out there.
So why in the world if you were sitting there and you were on the
left and you wanted to absolutely destroy whatever's left of the Colorado Republican Party,
and you wanted to absolutely destroy the reputation of Colerad of Republicans in Colorado.
You're sitting there on the left, you're evilly trying to plot that. And
what do you do. You have a chance to talk to the party chair.
What do you do you say to the party chair? Hey, send
out an email that says you hate gays, right, that's these So of
course that's what the Colorado gop I put that in quotes because it doesn't represent
Republicans in Colorado. That's what Dave Williams does, and it causes so much
harm. But it just as bad. The worst part of it is the
way that it really does to fame and slime all Republicans in Colorado and those
who are active in the party, who are overwhelmingly really great people doing hard
work to try to benefit all of us, and it slimes them as some
kind of gay haters, which is false. So that's the worst part of
it, you know, and there are a lot of really bad parts of
it. And the second worst part of it is it hands the political opponent
on these very important issues. Religious liberty is a big blanking deal, freedom
of speech is a big blanken deal. Parental rights is a big blanken deal.
These are issues we need to fight through the courts, fight through the
political channels to win on But we win with law and logic and reason and
love. We don't win with hate and have a party chair who wants to
represent us as haters, the opposite of us. It should not be tolerated.
And we know Dave isn't going to resign that whoever does is central Committee,
whatever needs to stand up and make a change. And the interest of
the cause is that we all share and believe in. With these issues being
so important, standing up to the left on all these issues, would you
want to hand the political opponents these easy victories. It's a betrayal of the
causes we all believe in. Why so one guy can light his hair on
fire and get a lot of attention that maybe helps his primary No, that's
not who we are. And this is where real leaders like Barb Kirkmeyer and
Nancy Palazzi with the JEFCO GOP, they know they're going to take a lot
of abuse, they know they're going to take a lot of heat. Everybody
can see how Dave tries to fire back on his opponents but they're willing to
stand up for what's right here, and Republicans all over the state need to
do that. Whether they consider themselves grassroots or establishment or somewhere in between,
it doesn't matter. He is undermining all of you. He is undermining everything
you believe in those causes, and he's making you look really bad in the
process, unless, of course, you do hate gays, then you're loving
it right. But I haven't met a single Republican who does it. Certainly
doesn't represent the party. Dennis and Parker, you're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Welcome, Greetings, greetings, very nice to take a little bit of
your time, and I apologize for my lack of knowledge and eloquence that you
command. And I'd like to just divert a little bit from what you're talking
about. I know your topic is Dave Williams, but I think the Democrats
are laughing all the way to the ballot box in being able to divert and
cast a negative sponge on the Republicans. What I've done, I was telling
your screener that the past two elections, what I've done is I've taken my
ballot, I've signed it with my left hand, not my right hand.
Normal. Sure. I've also taken in the in the script on the top
that gives you the instructions on how to vote and all that stuff. I
put a code in there, which I've taken a picture of I've got from
my own records. And what is really funny is that my ballot was accepted
and said, oh, thank you for voting, and blah blah blah.
So I'm saying that the Jenna Griswold gold standard is far from gold standard.
Dennis, let me interrup one second, only because we have people all fired
up on this Dave Williams stuff, and I've got to stand on that topic.
But you're telling me you intentionally made your signature, it was your signature,
but made it look like something else and it got accepted anyway. Did
you then have to did you pursue that through any channels? I'm not saying
you should have. I'm just curious. I would love to. I just
don't know what the right you know to verify standing in that. Yeah?
No, no, no, I'm fascinated by this. Dennis. Can you
be this favorite? Can we talk off airon I'll get you back on air
so you can make whatever case you want to the people. But I just
want to see if there's a way for us to use this experience to test
the system and try to get to the bottom of just how high these verification
standards are. So, Kelly, could you get Dennis's info and give him
my cell also so we can talk off air. Yes, Mike, thank
you, Mike and Lakewood, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Oh yeah, Hi, Dan. I don't agree with you what he says,
like Christians are supposed to love everybody, and you know, I hate
to stay in that center. But at the same time, he's America and
his constitution, and he's had a right to say what he wants to say.
And I've never heard of anybody it's been Republicans, you know, back
up, somebody slimming gay people, the gay people, the gauge in as
a gig governor, the Gate movement into the whole town thing, disrespect anybody
other than themselves. All they do is bass and make everybody look stupid,
family, stupid mom, and stupid transaxals A great I mean, they're just
literally destroying our society with their opinion and shoving in our face and then when
someone wants to bask to them and then it's not back to what he did.
Everybody's all over this guy, Why don't you know? I mean,
we could be all over the gays all day long with what they're doing as
far as being stupid and being out of line all day long, and nobody's
doing it. So I think the society is too much respect for gay people
as a whole, and they want to worry about offending gay people. Now
when the Republicans are going to look bad because one guy offended of the gay
people, I'm fine with it. It's a dirty stop. It's a dirty,
sloppy war of words that we both use and today use it to a
hundred times what we do. But the one time we do it, we
want to hang and find the guy that that does it. Where's you know,
where's our forgiveness? Where's their forgiveness? I don't hear them calling them
and complain about him. You know, you can talk all day long about
what someone wants to say and and Serry's the Republican? Are you leader?
Wherever he is? Literally? But I don't know. I give him a
couple of days. Maybe he'll call you, and maybe you can talk to
him, maybe you can go along there. And I wouldn't mind he what
he has to say. I'd love to hear what he has to say.
I think the reason we haven't been able to get him on air is he
can't defend what he's done, Mike, because if somebody really cares about these
causes, because what you have is is first of all, and when you
say gay people quote unquote, I think that's way too broad because if you're
talking about the typical gay person, do you know gay people, Mike,
I'm sure you do. I have one, And so you probably have no
problem with that person, right, No, not until it gets deep rooted
into their what they really think, and bright until the conversation turns to politics.
I get Thanksgiving dinner. You don't have any problem with that person,
right, You don't sit around hating on that person. You've got concerns on
a policy level. You want to make sure that there's religious liberty, that
they're free speech, that parental rights are protected, that the government is an
indoctrinating kids into a particular sexuality. So you, like the rest of us,
have all these serious concerns. And Mike and I can give you detail
after detail. There are all sorts of serious people working on multiple levels every
single day to stand up to that far left agenda. They're working through the
courts all the way up to the US Supreme Court, that they're working through
politics. They're doing everything they can to win on these critical policy issues.
And then you get just a wild eyed flamethrower like Dave who comes in and
as party chairs, starts throwing the hate word around, and all he does
is hand those political opponents a huge victory and undermine the Republicans who are actually
working to win on the policy issues. So it may be a short term
sugar high for some to see Dave throw these bombs, but it undermines the
cause. And it's all I'm so hateful. I'm sure that's not who you
are, Mike, It's not who I am. It's not who Republicans are.
You don't hate that family member. But Dave wants to throw on the
hate words so he can get more attention. That's awful and extremely counterproductive,
a gift to the opponents, flines and text on fire as they should be.
This is a seminole moment, right, I mean, the GOP in
Colorado is a tough slog as we fight back against all the different forces aligned
against us. But that doesn't mean we can just give up. And right
now it's like a give up moment when you've got Dave Williams doing these crazy
goofy things that undermine our causes and the party. And the question is whether
enough folks in the party, the Central Committee will rise up to just say,
hey, if we love you, and I like Dave, but you
cannot be our party chair. These causes are more important than you. You
know, this state is more important than you. Eight y five for zero
five eight two five five the number. So I want to get to those
calls and text. Here's a text, Dan, If you spend as much
time talking about the liberal screw ups as you do bashing our fellow conservatives,
we might actually win something. Texter, I wish you would call. The
nice thing is these shows are all on tape, right, and so the
percentage of time I spend bashing the left to criticizing the right is probably ninety
nine to one. And that's deserved because I'm a truth teller, right Listen,
above all, I don't care what Republicans think to me. A Democrats
are un affiliateds. I care about what like that ultimate judge up there thinks
of me. I try to be a truth teller and I come on here
every day and I turn that mic on. And if you think I'm wrong
about something, as Prime says, I ain't hard to find, you can
text me, you can call me, you can show me where I'm wrong.
So if you think I'm unfairly criticizing Dave Williams, please tell me,
but understand the and show me show everybody back it up or pack it up.
But the reason, the reason right now I'm speaking up is because if
you care about conservative causes, if you care about conservative candidates winning, then
you must do whatever you can do to try to assure that Dave Williams has
removed his chair, because right now, if he was trying to undermine our
candidates and our causes, how could he do it any more effectively than what
he's been doing these last few weeks. So thank you for your text,
but please do call Dan. I miss KBB Dan. That's the best analysis
I've ever heard you give. Dan. Thank you so much. I now
know where you come from. Shame on you again. Please do call the
show. I don't know whether you're coming from the left or the right on
that or whatever. You can be sure the left doesn't want me saying these
things. The left wants Dave Williams to be party chair for life. That
Dave Williams right now is the biggest gift to the left in color it has
ever received. Tammy and Aurora, you're on the dan kaplas shall welcome.
Dan. I obviously don't am not privy to these emails that you keep referring
to, and I'm not sure you know how things rewarded except for the snippet
that you gave us, which in which you said that Dave Williams said God
hates pride. So I went on to the Twitter feed for both Dave Williams
Rep. And the Colorado GOP, and what I see him saying is that
he is speaking out against this ideology, not against any individuals like you know
you keep referencing the GAZE. I don't think that that's what he's doing.
And I agree with your previous caller that the Colorado GOP is supposed to be
be about our freedoms and our liberties, and that includes free speech and one
more thing us giving back to the left by our silence or oh that's okay,
we'll get you next time has never gotten us one inch, not one
So we haven't keep coming until they get everything they want. And you think
this is the way to win, Timmy, you think this is the way
to win. I think he's speaking about the ideology, and I think it's
time we all start speaking up about the way they that the left is ramming
this down our throat. And I do it every day on air a great
personal expense. But getting back to my question, do you think this is
the way to win? It's not. And you're obviously a very smart,
articulate person, and you cannot make the case that this is the way to
win. And guess what. The only way we get to stop the left
from doing all these awful things that they're doing to children in Colorado and doing
everybody in Colorado is to win. This is the way to lose. But
have you seen that the June third email. It's not a tweet, it's
an actual email sent by the Colorado g That's why I started out by saying,
I haven't been proving to these specific emails fair enough because you have a
normal life. Yeah, let me reference that email Okay, first the email
quote god hates pride, But then there's also, as I read it,
and somebody correct me if I'm seeing it wrong, there's also a video linked
where it says God hates flags, which appears to be a thinly veiled reference
to that awful Westboro church, God hates fags. And then, to relieve
any doubt, it goes on to say, this email from the Colorado GOP,
the month of June has arrived and once again the godless groomers in our
society want to attack what is decent, holy and righteous so they can ultimately
harm our children. So can you agree that thesage that's being received everywhere here
and across the country is the Colorado GOP hates gays. I mean you use
that H word. That H word is nuclear and that's the message that everybody's
receiving. No surprise. Well, I think you're narrowing it down a little
too too small to say it's just about the gaze, because we all know
that this movement, the LGBTQ movement, is not just about the gays.
Well, right, I think that you know that's that's a mistake on our
part to narrow it down to one community. And by the way, did
you know that there is a huge movement within the gay community right now to
separate from the LGBTQ and Timmy, we want to be included in that.
Yeah, and Timmy, we're losing the connection. I have to this break.
But to your last point, this is critical. Your point about LGBTQ
movement is not necessarily about the gays. There's no question in my mind that
the left is using this movement to try to undermine religious liberty more broadly,
undermine parental rights more broadly, undermine First Amendment speech more broadly. And those
are very very dangerous things, which makes what Dave's doing even worse because we
need to win on those policy issues, which means we need to win elections,
which means we need more people in the republic Party. Who do you
think wants to join the Republican Party now? After the GOP reed, Dave
sends out an email like that and represents us to be the party of hating
gays. Yeah, that's a way to win, right, No, it's
a gift to our opponents. These issues are too important. We need to
win. So this is the first time I've said this, and for those
hotel workers, people that get tips, You're going to be very happy because
when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips
people making tips. Whether you like the post or not, that that's the
Trump we know in love all the fresh ideas, the different stuff. Nobody
saw that coming, I'm sure Button. Oh my goodness, can you imagine
the reaction in his camp when they heard that. I mean, and we'll
get back to talking about that. I think it's fascinating and it's going to
help them tremendously. Hey, let's go to the VIP line and happy to
welcome Jeff Herd back to the show. He's running for Congress in CD three,
which, as you probably know, is a district Lauren Bobert is representing
currently, but now she's running in the CD four race. Jeff, welcome
back to the Dan Kapla Show. Hey, Dan, great to be here.
Well, thank you my friend. Since we last chatted, I think
I saw a poll come out and the poll had you way ahead, but
a whole bunch of people undecided. Was I reading that right? That's right.
It's an encouraging poll. It shows we've got strong fundamentals, but it
also shows us a long ways to go, and we got to keep our
foot on the gas. Yeah, and not too long right. June twenty
five, fifteen days, two two weeks from tomorrow. Oh my lord,
I bet you can't wait funch time. I bet you cannot plait. But
so for those who weren't with us last time. And by the way,
all of the candidates are welcome on this show, of course, tell us
a little bit about yourself. Sure, So, I am a Cauroro native.
I grew up here on the Western Slope, family man, five kids,
been married to my wife for it'll be nineteen years in about three weeks.
I have spent my professional career helping rural Colorado, primarily rural electric cooperatives,
and not a career politician, hardworking, authentic. And I'm the guy
that's going to beat Adam Fish in the November election. Boy, and I
think there are a lot of Democrats who believe you're going to beat him as
well. But Jeff, this primary, how many candidates are in the primary
right now? There are six candidates in the primary as you're out there right
now. Is it what we would expect right now? Immigration, inflation,
et cetera. Is that topping the list of concerns, or is there some
sleeper issue out there. Nope, that's it. They's securing the border is
issue number one. So energy in dependence is something that's big here in southern
and western Colorado. And then protecting water, n egg, those are the
core issues. That's what I hear about, and that's what I'm going to
fight for and for those who are still and I gather from that poll and
an awful lot of people who are familiar with the candidates prefer you. But
obviously there are a bunch who aren't familiar with any of you yet. Beyond
the obvious bio points, what is it about you? What is it about
what you've done in your life, maybe beyond your children and your wife,
your proudest moment. Tell people something they haven't heard about you that shows them
the real you. Well, I'm the guy that's hardest to keep your electricity
bills low, and so if you care about keeping your the cost of electricity,
the cost of energy low, I'm your guy. That's what I've spent
my career doing, representing rural electric cooperatives up and down the Western Slope,
trying to fight bad government regulations, that increase the cost of your electric bill
every month. That's kind of the core thing. So if you care about
those things, if you care about low cost energy, low cost food,
you know, saving at the grocery store, saving at the gas pump.
That's what I've dedicated my career to professionally, and that's what I've been doing
Washington, is help you save money and lower your cost of living. And
if you're looking for somebody that's fought in his career doing that, and we'll
do that for you in Congress, Jeff Hurd is your guy? Is there
something from your life, your personal life, just some moment in your life
that you know shows the best of your character or might really sum you up
for folks. You know, one thing I think people are surprised to hear
about me is actually I did not have any plans to ever go into politics.
I was actually studying to be a priest, to believe it or not,
And so that's about as far from politics as as yet I thought I
was going to give it in. It just goes to show you never know
where life is going to bring in, where God's going to bring in.
I say that now as a dad of five kids, and so you know,
I'm definitely far away from where I expected to be. But you know,
God calls you to places that you don't always expect, and here I
am. See it's interesting because I was on track for the priesthood as well
and was sure I was going to go back. What is it that changed
that path for you? At first? I didn't know that, Dan,
That's that's awesome, Okay, you and I have that in commons. I
met my now wife at a yes at a conference, and next thing I
knew I was on the path to getting married. So yeah, yeah,
that's you never know what and those of you that are never aren't quite sure
what your path is in life. You never know what God is going to
show you. So that's exactly what happened to me, and it sounds like
to you too, Dan. Yeah, I know, very very true,
and mine was a little bit different twist, but I knew it when it
happened. I've just been fixated on that path, was sure that's where I
was going, but then understood there was a different intent. Hey, what's
your website? Website is Jeff Heard for Colorado. That's j E F F
h U R D FO R Colorado dot Com. All right, Jeff,
hey, appreciate the time. Good luck out there. Thanks so much.
Dan, great talking with you. Take care, We'll talk to you soon.
Thank you. That is Jeff Hurt. Impressive cat from Everything I Can
Tell hit five five for zero five A two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine the text blowing up as we talk about whether Dave
Williams should be removed as party chair. I know the calls from some are
for his resignation, but we all know Dave isn't going to resign. Dan
quit telling people they are wrong. Thanks. It would be a very short
show, right, including myself when I'm I say it. But I think
the whole point of this show is to tell the truth right, and then
if I am wrong, people have every opportunity to point it out. Think
about that. Unlike all these politicians, people in office, everything else.
Shannon, you know it. Shannon Scott would have the best show on Eric,
except he doesn't want to be in front of the mic. But you've
been doing this how many years now? It's ninety three? What is ninety
three? So we came in at about the same time. I think it
was ninety one for me the Clarence Thomas hearings. But yeah, I mean
there's no censor back there, right, I mean, Kelly is Saddam could
call and she'd put him on what should break some news? Right she would
say, sir, I'm having a very hard time understanding. See, that's
what I mean. If Shannon Scott would sit in front of this microphone every
day, I would probably quit my job to listen to your show. Right,
well, I wouldn't have a job because you'd take this show or any
other show you wanted. No, guy's hilarious. But that's the point is
if I'm wrong on some thing, Texter, everybody in the world has an
open door to come in and show it. So you got to speak the
truth, and the truth means talking about who's right and who's wrong. Ah
Dan, It's amazing to me. Dave Williams actually considers himself a Christian.
I guess he's qualified to cast the first stone. Mike and Henderson, Listen.
I don't. I don't get into that for anybody. Listen. I'm
so focused on my own flaws when it comes to who's a good this or
who's a good that. You know what I'm talking about? Is when somebody
as party chair uses God as a sword to attack their opponents or to attack
those in the party who question what he's doing, while at the same time,
in my opinion, he's misusing the faith, He's undermining the causes through
the tactics he's employing. That's what I don't like. In terms of whether
Bobby or Billy or anybody else is a good Christian or a good Catholic or
a good Jew or whatever. I never address that. That's I'm the last
person on the planet qualified to talk about that, you know. I'm just
talking about what somebody's doing as party chair when they go out and put up
a message like God hates flags, which is I think a thinly veiled reference
to the horrific God hates fags of that awful Westboro Church, and you know,
God hates pride in this and that it's just an associating God with hate
in a political context like this just just kind of painting Republicans as haters,
which is so fundamentally unfair. Think about it. You probably know a lot
of people in the GOP. You may be in it yourself. I know
a lot of people in the GOP. If you do you know they are
not haters, They are the opposite of that. But people outside the GOP
all the knows the stereotypes. So all Dave's doing is feeding that awful,
unfair, dishonest stereotype and handing the left a gift. No, no,
it's it's time for a change. But those who disagree will take you first
eight five to five for zero five eight two five five text d an five
seven seven three nine five to fifty one, Glad you're here. Phone lines
and text have been exploding, especially the text in Fuego Dan. If the
Central Republican Committee does not remove Dave Williams, and I will remove myself and
all my financial support from this party. This man has broken party rules,
He ruins a reputation, and he must be outed. That is the only
way I have to speak to the party as my membership. If they will
not listen, I will not speak to them anymore. Text Obviously, I
have no idea who this texture is or what they contribute to the party,
et cetera. In terms of and I agree obviously that Dave should not be
the party share anymore. At this point, his actions have the effect of
helping the opponents tremendously and making the GOP look bad. I don't know of
any party rules that Dave's broken, though I think Dave has had been behind
rule changes that allow things that don't make any sense, such as for the
GOP to endorse in primaries. I thought the job of the GOP was to
provide a level playing field so the candidates could do it out in a primary
and the voters could make the choice. But I don't know that he's broken
any party rules. I just think he's done a lot of things that undermine
the causes, undermine the party, undermine our candidates, and help the left
win, which goes to I've had a number of texts along these same lines.
I'll paraphrase it, Dan, Dave Williams has infiltrated the GOP. Now
he's trying to undermine or destroy the GOP from inside. You said he used
to be a Democrat. I think he still is. No, forgive me,
I used to be a Democrat. I'm not saying Dave Williams, so
what's effort a democrat? Not at all. And we've had a number of
Texters say, hey, do you think he's like Ken Buck? Now?
Do you think he's trying to help the left. No, I don't,
not at all. I think Dave's a very smart guy. I enjoyed Dave.
I think on some level Dave must understand right that that he is helping
the left here and hurting the causes that he says he believes in. But
maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's just so close to this
now and so focused on his own election and attracting attention to himself that maybe
that's he's he's just completely missing this bigger picture right now. Eight F five
for zero five A two five five the number textda N five seven seven thirty
nine. But no matter what his intent is, the effect is obvious.
Right. He's undermining the cause is he's undermining our candidates. He's making it
much harder to win now and into the future, and he's helping the left
win. That's a pretty bad cocktail where I come from. Kevin in Beautiful
Boulder, you're on the Dan Kaplis show. Welcome. Speaking of God,
I said, speaking of God, Yes, I'm in favor of what Trump
proposes with getting rid of the income tax for certain people, because in the
Bible, God requires the gold and silver standard, and the constitution requires a
gold and silver standard, but we don't have that now because the banks created
and own the federal Reserve system. So allow me to play this sounstitutional money
to tax and there is no constitutional money to pay a tax with. Okay,
let me let me play the sound for the folks who aren't familiar with
what you're referring to. So this is the first time I've said this.
And for those hotel workers and people that get tips, you're going to be
very happy because when I get to office, we are going to not charge
taxes on tips people. And I think, wow. So what do you
think of that underlying policy, Kevin? Do you have any thoughts on that
separate apart from federal reserve, gold standard, silver standard, et cetera.
What do you think of the policy? Well, it plays favorites with certain
people, unless he's going to apply it to every worker, But in general,
I'm in favor of it because nobody should pay an income tax in this
country. Okay, Kevin, have you tried that? Have you tried that
at home? Not pay an income tax? I'm saying nobody should. Okay,
Okay, everybody should have a big tax revolt. And just refuse to
pay income bat you pay yours and lawful for many reasons, but you pay
yours. No, I don't pay. I paid income tax. I'm seventy
four. I paid income fifty once and that was nineteen seventy four, and
then you something like dollars did you owe income tax in other years and you
just didn't pay it? I didn't owe tax at all for the reason I
just gave you. But I paid. But I didn't know that then,
Okay, So I paid fifty dollars on income that I thought qualified for an
income tax in nineteen seventy four. And were there other years when you know,
the government said that you owed income tax, but you chose not to
pay The government never said anything, okay about that? Okay, Kevin,
all right, I get it. First of all, do not follow Kevin's
lead. Do not follow Kevin's advice. Follow the law. If you want
to change the law, go change the law. Right. Sorry. It's
just frustrating to me when people won't give a direct answer. And I appreciate
Kevin listening. I hope he listens forever. I hope he calls all the
time. But let's give a direct answer and follow the law, unless you
don't like it, then change the law. But wow, well, anyway,
we'll continue to follow this story during the week, you know, whether
there's going to be more of a movement to seek Dave's Ousters party chair.
But I think what's most critical ultimately is that people just speak up against this.
You know, it's not personal. Again, I really like the guy,
and he's always welcome here, and we've had a lot of great conversations.
But Dave is doing so much to harm the causes right now, so
much that has the effect of helping the other side so much. That's just
flat wrong. I just think it's very important for everybody to go on record
on this. It just shouldn't be ignored at this point. Tomorrow we'll be
following. You know that you would think, in the normal course sense,
it appears to be an absolutely slam dunk case that Hunter Biden would be convicted
tomorrow on these charges. For the reasons I've talked about. I think that
Joe Biden is probably pulling very hard for a Hunter Biden conviction. I think
the whole Biden clan is pulling hard for a Hunter Biden conviction so they can
then say oh, you got your pound of flesh. Everybody's equal under the
law. And hey, what about those tax evasion charges that then start to
get into the money, like where did Hunter get that money and why did
he have that money? Was it to buy influence through Joe? Yeah,
they want to distract and deflect. Probably the best thing that could happen to
Trump would be for Hunter Biden to be acquitted tomorrow, but expect a conviction.
Thank you Shannon Scott, Thank you, Kelly. Join us tomorrow.