Welcome to you, softcore History. Welcome back to softcore History. I'm your
host for the week, Damn Rogester, and I'm joined as always by Rob
Fox. Oh me first, because Jake's fucking everything up. Yeah, it
came in real low energy today. That's a good one. Dan came in
late low energy. It came in right at six thirty. It's been pretty
disrespectful on the last six minutes have been just it's been six minutes since all
time. Yeah, yeah, it's my fault. I mean, if you're
on time, you're late. Yeah. And if you're that's yeah, or
like every high school coach you know. I actually, since you can go
on industry, introduce me now whenever you want, Uh, do you want
to introduce yourself? I'm Jake Goldman. Damn good to be here. I
guess some low energy. Yeah. The thing about Gary V that we haven't
taken a note from yet is we really need to quit our paying jobs and
take up an internship somewhere that's not on paying so we can really understand the
value of work, right, would you zero dollars? Apparently I get really
annoyed at most of the like fuck you boomer stuff, but the one like
anyone. And it's usually like a boomer situation that says that on time is
late early is on time, Like they should die in a fire. I
want to fucking murder those people. They're the worst people on earth. Anyone
that watches the clock for anyone should probably, Yeah, because I love it
when people watch the clock for an hour, lead worker especially, and it's
like, you know, you're only paying for them from when they're here,
so if they're a little late, you're paying them less, right, Yeah,
yeah, you cots zero dollars. Yeah, you actually saved some money
this year because they weren' gonna do anything for the first fifteen minutes anyway.
No, you're gonna pay them to drink coffee, fuck it whatever. Now
they feel rushed because they're late. Yeah, that's true. Like the normal
corporate job, I would always get in, take about twenty minutes to get
my coffee, drink the coffee, get all set up, yeah, and
you go take a shit. Yeah you either. I would spend like an
hour a day shitting. You've got to be on my phone. Ye got
to do it on the company time. Yeah, especially at a job.
I didn't like that. It was more less so at like TFM and this
current job, but all the other jobs oh yeah, oh yeah, if
it's a job you don't like, you poop a lot. Yeah and Dan,
actually you could, like you could take a corporate job and shit for
like three hours a day and they couldn't see a disability discrimination. It's a
red flag on if you know about Like if you have a friend who owns
a business and they're like, I swear to God like my employee, I
just apparently I only hire people with gastron testinal problems. That's how you low
key No, he has a terrible business and all his employees hate working there.
I did pull that card when I was valeting cars. Oh you should,
Why wouldn't you? Yeah, absolutely, because they're like you took ten
minutes in the bathroom, Like yeah, what kind of creeps clocking it?
Well, a guy that is a slimy valet, Like he's the head valet,
the head valet, the master valet, well, the account manager for
the property. Okay, so sleez ball. Yeah, his name was Sean
Anthony. Let's drop. I'll air that man out. He used to always
cover up whenever somebody would like ding their car. I mean, I'm sure
sounds like he had his employees backs if anything. Yeah, it sounds like
like what are you doing taking to ship? Like we need to have got
three Mercedes out? You got drop a ship in that. I'll cover for
you. Yeah, don't do it on my time. I'm doing on theirs
their car. He's the kind of the guy that would kick the milk crate
from underneath you. Oh he would. He would throw you under the bus.
He wouldn't actually go to bath for you. So let's talk about these
milk crates, Dan, is that is that what we're doing this week?
No, the history of the milk crate challenge or whatever. Yeah, No,
that's a CIA operation. That's a that's a psi op. They dropped
just like crack cocaine. They dropped a bunch of milk crates in the hood.
Where are the people getting the milk crates? That's my No one knows.
I think they were dropped off. Yeah, it's that is a bit
questionable. That's like the news in mobile rolling up and be like, hey,
has anyone seeing the leper con around here? Right? And ever?
That's how that video got started. True, It's like the same people pull
that dropped off all of those bricks for the riots. I was actually about
to bring that up. Someone one of my buddies like sent me a picture
one time and he was like, who do you think it's funding this ship?
And it was like a U haul truck with some fucking bricks in it.
And I was like, I don't know, I could have funded it.
I've got eight hundred dollars. You must there's like bricks. Yeah,
there's like ten people there though, Like it's like, I'll it's like a
Venmo eat, Like they just Venmo one person and they go to eat somebody,
somebody. It's not a lot. Can you imagine like expense this.
I'm not saying this actually happens, but you actually like expensing eight hundred bricks
like on a company card? Yeah, like just like it's the Black Lives
Matter corporate card. Yeah, we gotta get bricks again. Fuck, do
you think it is a black card? Do you think they have unlimited credit?
The BLM has a black card? Yeah? Why not? Do you
think that's how they roll on brand? There's a lot of either way.
I could say right now, I would never do that. Che racist things?
Are you holding in? Yeah? Dan mentioned credit. Yeah, and
I don't believe any of those things. My favorite during the whole uh pandemic
was the NBA was offering up credit cards and I think you brought this up,
Rob and uh to incentivize like young after offering the deal. It was
during the NBA games or like the NBA playoffs during the pandemic, it was
uh yeah, they were offering free jerseys if you signed up for their credit
It was this jersey replacement insurance is what it was, My jersey replacement insurance.
It was the biggest scam I've ever It's like if your player or traders
the other two, you are just taking that. All that is is like
praying. Yeah yeah, I mean that is purely predatory. Yeah, no,
it's terrible. I remember seeing those commercials was a good God. What
it was like when like dudes would show up at our attorney house at like
nine pm with like a stack of Domino's pizzas and like, sign up for
this credit card, you get a free pizza and yeah, you like you
apply for the credit card and then whatever, dude, like you just put
down some wrong info. Yeah, they would check it so like they check
your license and ship, like they can't check your social not there, yeah
untill they get quick, untill they bring the iPad around. But man,
I've fucked up my credit school real bad for some pizzas. It's not good.
I've done worse. Yeah whatever, Yeah in the moment, shouts to
discover dude, that was wild too, Like it was worth it for the
credit cards to buy like six hundred dollars worth of pizza and just have these
like who the fuck knows, like craigslist workers like go around and be like
fill this out. You're good at pizza. You gotta think a lot of
people weren't like filling out, like actually getting the credit card though, I
mean they must have had a good conversion rate, like they had to it.
Yeah if they yeah, if they can't hurry, Budy got a credit
card. But man, dude, we would do that all the time and
then like older guys, big you have you're fucking idiots and like and we'd
be eating a pizza and like, I don't feel like an idiot over your
credit score. Yeah, so we're paying off your student loans. So that's
a made up bullshit system if I've ever heard of it. But yeah,
comedy Jake is out in full force. I'm sorry. The credit score is
a joke. Like, yeah, credits a funny, dumb thing we do.
Like the more think about it, like the more debt you have,
you can actually increase your score. But also like, well I guess if
you're actively paying it off, they're like, oh, this guy pays off
the debt. Yeah. No, when you close an account, like when
it's paid off, yeah, you don't have as much open credit anymore,
so your credit score goes down, which is insane. Like paid off.
I paid off a student loan, paid off like a medical thing, like
multiple medical things this year, and a credit card that was like worthless.
I just ended it. Yeah, it like didn't give me anything good,
No, you know what I mean. Yeah, there's no benefits to it,
right right right, So it's just like I'm done with this, yeah,
and paid it off. So yeah, I don't know. It'd be
funny for like my home people call me in like a week and they're like,
oh, we saw that you h have less debt now. Sorry,
yeah, your credit score sucks now. I know you just paid off your
bills and everything like a normal I know you did it exactly what we wanted
you to do. But but now that you don't have that that you're less
like a GP. It's the same thing. A's like a GPA where somehow
like one f is insurmountable but one eight does nothing. Yeah. Yeah,
you're like how the game was always ragged boys, it's always raged rich.
I just don't get as Yeah, I want to like, actually, what
have you just like dragged like a rich person in front of a bunch of
communists and started eating him alive. Again, we've kind of a call back
to an older episode where do you start with the human? You go cheekbone,
you go calf. You're cutting off a piece of calf, Yeah,
calf. If anyone goes straight for the genitals, you kill that person.
Yeah, that's yeah. There's like a group of you in your donner party.
There's like, let's eat the nuts, and you're like, we're killing
him too. It's even worse. It's even CITs of vagina to me,
honestly, like if they're just like I would be like, all right,
well look let's eat first, but then after we're done, No, you
kill that guy too, that's yeah. But when we're hungry, that person's
insane, castle little lean maybe cap would be dark meat. I would think
a love handle because actually, get that ass. It's like bacon ham Well
not for most people, maybe for me, Like he definitely conflates my ass.
Yeah, I'm a dump trail. You's just more of a rump rost
than a bacon. Yeah. True, that's true. It's a choke wow
eating you to be like someone wished to eat your ass but on a monkey's
paw and they're just in the mountains and you're dead and they're cutting off a
piece of your ass. It's like Kylie, like, all right, Dan,
finally do it. I'll eat I'll eat your ass. But then you
guys get a plane crash in the Rockies? Why did I wish for this?
Yeah? Anyway, this week I wanted to touch on a topic that
allow people these days seem to question the ethics and legitimacy of and that's it
journalism. Oh I thought you're gonna say eugenics. I'm still for it.
Who isn't? Yeah, but a lot of people are like doubling back on
it. Yeah, I can't walk that back. Yeah, toothpaste out of
the tube, you know, ye, how do you run that back?
I'm not saying run it back. I'm saying walking it back. Yeah,
right, how do you walk or stroll it back? Rob thinks we should
run it back and just bring it all back. Yeah, how do you
walk back? Eugenics? I didn't mean the very thing I said, although,
honestly, I bring up eugenics only because I think a lot of people
view this industry with the same distaste that the eugenics. At this point,
NI journalism that, yeah, which is insane, But I mean, at
the same time, not because I kind of think it's broken. Yeah.
Well, according to the most recent Gallup pole, the majority of Americans distrust
what we refer to as mass or mainstream media. Why wouldn't you, Well,
I think the answer is pretty simple, and it's not necessarily some like
grand conspiracy for either side. No, No, it's it's money. Yeah.
I've said that for the longest time, and I'll have friends that'll debate
me about No, they have an agenda blah blah. I'm like, they're
like, there's left wing right way, and I'm like, no, no,
no, no, the agenda is money. Yeah, they're filling a
market space, They're they find a demographic. Yeah, you hit that demographic
or there are chicken restaurants, there are Hamburger restaurants. Well, actually those
cows do have an agenda. Yeah, yeah, they seriously do. Yeah,
they make it pretty clear, but um, yeah, no, I
I never understood that either. It's like you think everything told to you should
be considered that it has an agenda of some level. Well. Yeah.
The tough thing with journalism too is that, like it's not about as unregulated
as it could possibly be. Also not super profitable. Like if you just
do straight journalism, Talk to any of your friends that come out of school
and like do like local news and everything. They're getting paid pennies. We're
getting paid dog shit. I have a lot of friends who have because it
was a good journal school. After college, they would just move to like
the middle of nowhere to do like some like Fort Smith, Arkansas. Like
you're a weekend anchor. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, just like you're doing
a specific beat to be like the local. They'd be doing like local TV
news there and show like that. It seemed terrible, it did, but
obviously they're kind of making it more of an entertainment product. And obviously when
you really harp on reaffirming people's beliefs, people tend to tune in, right
of course. You know what actually is a thing that doesn't get enough credit
and would probably have been a really transformative film had it not been a sequel,
is Anchorman two. I actually think Anchorman two is like a brilliant satire
of the news. Anchorman is not a satire of the news really at all.
It's just a goofy movie. But Anchorman two is like a pretty fucking
cutting satire. I don't actually think I've ever seen It's great. It is
really good, but you kind of like it's not going to blow you away
because you've already seen it. Right, There's nothing there's no surprise element to
the jokes. It's not like a fresh new thing. It's just a continuation,
right right. It's kind of like how people would try to satire or
do parodies of Trump, but it's like Trump is funnier than everybody else.
Yeah, you couldn't make fun of him because he was funnier than the people
making fun of him. Yeah. Well, when you do a say,
if you want to satirize something like that, like this wear like S and
L and stuff fails a lot. You have to, like, you can't
just do an imitation because you aren't going to be as good as the actual
person. You need to move it. And it can't even be like Trump
doing it, but it needs to be like a person, not even with
the speech pattern or anything like that, but just like making the decisions and
being or Biden or anyone else. Uh, although I actually think Biden's a
better candidate for like straight up impersonation, like like Clinton and George W.
Bush are like, he's more of that ilk Bill Clinton, but like you
need to be like what someone like Trump would be, like running like a
fucking bake sale or just something small and you know what I mean, like
like Field State Company or shitty university or something like that. Oh yeah,
really going for him really, but it doesn't work. Just fucking impression of
Alwin wasn't like great. No, Like like again, like you can do
certain ones like Bernie Sanders is a good straight up impression, especially when you
have fucking Larry David doing it right right like and honestly I thought for a
while they did a good Hillary Clinton job. But like Obama is another one
kind of on the other end where it's like doing an impression on them,
it doesn't really work, like he just does. I don't know why.
And then Trump obviously doesn't work either that way. Well, Obama is so
damn boilerplate politicians like milktoast to be honest, yeah, I know people are
like, he's super cool, but because he plays basketball. Yeah, like
smoke SIGs, which is inherently cool. It's very cooling marl Borough, if
you're listening, give us. Are they allowed to advertise in general? Yeah,
yeah, that came back. Okay, Yeah, we'll have to come
back with our demographics and see if it's you know, all smokers baby anywhere
eighteen, it's thirty five. I think we're golden. Yeah, that's the
actually probably better if you have some and of that too, that's camel h
Yeah, Joe cool or uh so. Yeah. I mean we've shifted as
a society to more commentating opinion is and it's kind of on us. Well
we've shifted back, yes, and we'll get to that. Yeah, but
I mean even this isn't nothing that's happening now is new. No, it's
shit. Don't change even in sports obviously, you know, look at the
ratings of Sports Center. People just want to hear Stephen A. Smith just
yell about whether or not Trey Lance is a franchise quarterback after two preseason games.
You know, yeah, it's a good, good pool of data for
him to make that conclusion for him, I think. So, yeah,
you don't. You don't go back to like a mild roast coffee after you've
had someone uh rubbing cocaine into your asshole. Yeah, yeah, free base
that ship. Yeah, anally you just don't go. But it just doesn't
antally free base quick it absorbs quicker job one did that right, Yeah,
yeah, not smoke cocaine through a butthole. No, she didn't smoke it
through a butthole. She has someone blow the cocaine into her. Yeah,
it's not free basing, though it was freebasing doing cocaine through the asshole anyway.
Anyway that you can't well everything is next to that too, because she
did like a oh maybe Nicks and not Jans job one, I don't remember.
I mean they probably both did. Yeah, someone did it through their
button. So General News, just like ESPN, kind of took over their
playbook. You don't really if you I mean, Ben Shapiro, Rachel Maddow,
you don't really need to listen or tune in to like know what their
takes are going to be. When something happens, you just kind of like
they go by the book they played the hits, right, It's it kind
of becomes predictable both sides. It's comfort in you almost just go there to
see what they're gonna say, even though you know what side they're gonna be
on the same way. Like I know, like for example, the other
day when the when the Phillies were losing to the gimebacks, Like I knew
that Phillies fans are going to be upset about that, but I still went
onto their reddit just to read, Yeah, yeah, you're you want to
kind of bask in it. Yeah, you're doom scrolling a little bit.
Yeah you know, you're confirming your preconceived bias. Yes, because it's easier
than question in your beliefs. And then after I did that, I felt
like a superior, better person, Like I walked around my house feeling more
important. Now with the topic of journalism, I could have went an easy
route, could have went with the layup myself William randolph Hurst. Yeah,
you could have, I guess, and I'm sure at some point we'll eventually
get to h okay, because I mean he seems like a notable person that
will cover in it, will eventually run into enough topic. We'll do enough
topics where eventually we'll have to get to him, I guess. But I
figured I'd go out like four topics left, you gotta finally do them.
We've talked about everything else in history, ran out of stuff, ran twenty
twelve right now, what God damn it. But I figured, you know,
it's my episode. I gotta go with the lesser name. M hm,
the tradition. God, well she was pretty famous. Yeah, yeah,
the woman that is actually my topic today. I think one of my
first women. So maybe turn a new page for Danny boy here. Yeah,
doing a bio on a female pretty sexist, I know. Well,
Uh, we're going with a woman by the name of Nellie BLI familiar Nellie
Bly No. You asked me this before we started, and I said,
no, I wasn't familiar either. My first thing is gonna be like axe
murderer. You, yeah, pretty much. What was she like, poor
arsenic and her family's ham or something like what what happened? Yeah. She
is often regarded as the mother of stunt journalism. So Nellie bligh is to
blame for all our ills? Are you blaming a woman for everything right now?
No, I'm saying this was when journalism was cool. People did shit,
Okay. So rather than just commentating on like whatever's happened in the world,
she went out and found the problems. And she just a vice journalist,
is that she? Yeah? She was the og vice. I tried
to opium nine different ways. Yeah, this is what I learned. Like,
yeah, well, why don't we get into it? Okay. So
she was born Elizabeth Cochrane in eighteen sixty four outside of Pittsburgh as one of
fifteen kids. Her Irish immigrant dad, Michael Cochrane, pumped into two different
women. A penis is just don't stop. Yeah, I was. Can
you imagine what eighteen sixty four Irish yanzer sounds like? That's gonna be the
worst sound in the world. What's every though? I know, but imagine
worse somehow. It's like you're either Irish or you're Polish. Yeah, but
like imagine worse back like off the boat. Yeah, well no, that
would just be Irish. They are, like we're talking about the first generation
of like her dad is. Yeah, I'm talking about her though, Yeah,
so she's the Irish ends here. Yeah. Yeah, her dad's still
just just Irish. Yeah, as so Mikey boy dies when she's six,
and Elizabeth and her mother side of the family have to sell the land and
soon after move in with another man that her mal re marries. Little domestic
abuse happens and they divorce and move into a boarding home. If you're getting
divorced in the nineteenth century over domestic abuse, got a good lawyer. I
don't know. I was gonna say, like it was he crucifying you on
the front lawn. Goddamn becaue. I don't know how you can get a
divorce at that time, honestly, Like, I don't like, you're the
man's property in that era, like not good. Like I mean, maybe
she's just a tough broad and was like I'm not taking any ship. Maybe
she left him because he was beating or she was beating him up. Yeah,
but I mean, like, god damn, that's uh yeah, feels
feels fairly unheard of for the time. Yeah. Shouts to her mom for
you know, kind of being the trailblazer, tough broad, raised, tough
broad. Yeah. So, uh, Elizabeth tries to stick with school during
this time, and it ends up attending i UP Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
I hate that school. When she's fifteen, Why is it there? Why
is it called back? And then also what's the other one? I UPUI
University Purdue University, Indianapolis. Yeah yeah, i UM EUEPV. That school
should be nuked like a literal, just for the name of it. Yeah.
I hate it so much. It just enrages me endlessly. When she's
fifteen, she drops out due to lack of money and helps her mom run
a boarding house, so she's kind of fallen back into you know, typical
woman of her Eram, get a job. How the fuck are you not
married? Yeah? You doing wast senior time in school? Seriously fill in
your head with thoughts and shit. Yeah, it's funny you say that because
the Pittsburgh Dispatch runs a column in titled what Girls Are Good For, which
was exactly what you'd think in eighteen eighties piece about women would read like some
highlights please spoiler alert, birth in children, and keeping the house tidy.
Okay, so it was a two column series. Yeah you think he like
dragged it out like three thousand words. Yeah, you get paid by the
paid by the word man, he really get into it. And another thing,
a woman's good at cleaning plates. The plates so good at plate cleaning.
Let us not mistake a plate for a tea plate, which a woman
is also good for cleaning. Speaking of tea plates, sauces, it's every
type of plate. This guy's a billionaire. He has a lot of plates.
Yeah. So Elizabeth decides, you know, she comes across this article
in the boarding house and she's like, you know what, I'm kind of
college educated. I'll write a rebuttal. Yeah. So she does, as
she's working in a home cleaning and I assume yep, yeah, yep,
yep, yep. So she writes a rebuttal under the pen name Lonely Orphan
Girl, and uh, pretty much drags this dance who wrote the red pill
column. Nice, it's a log Lonely Orphan Girl. Just that just clicked.
Yeah, that sounds like troubling only fans Lonely Word. Oh no,
they're gonna They're gonna be fucked come October. Oh well well I think they're
moving to fans lye. Oh my god. Okay, yeah, somebody else.
Why would you? Why would you? I'm sorry. Fans was supposed
to be was like another Patreon, and then everyone just started putting stuff in
each other and then it became only fans, which you can still do on
Patreon, I believe, I'm can you. You can still put things inside
other people with their consents right platform with that well porn hub for a while,
yeah Jesus, okay, uh yeah no. Anyway, so the editor
of the Pittsburgh Dispatch, George Madden, not only published the piece but ran
an ad in the paper asking the open letter author to reveal herself so we
could hire. Okay yea. So he did, like a hundred women show
up and were like it was me, and it was like a glass slipper
situation where it's like I need to find the writing. Yeah. Uh well
back then, um, he ends up hiringer. Back then, women who
wrote for papers had to have a pen name was kind of like required.
I don't know why you couldn't write on your your own merits. Uh,
that's not anything. That's not that common. Now there's a reason it's J.
K. Rowling, So people think it's a man basically, yeah,
yeah, because like it's all basically just because boys don't want to buy a
book written by a girl. Yeah we suck. Yeah, yet who wants
to read some girly stuff? Yeah? Dumb? Well know how based JK
Rolling was down from the get go. Me and that bitch a red pill.
I love ret conning shit, dude, it's so good, Like God,
I just don't understand why she, like after the fact, talks about
the characters like it matters to keep them in the conversation. Dan, what
do you not get about that? Like, why does it matter what dumbled
doesn't? It's it's to keep it in the conversation. You know exactly what
she's doing. I guess it's her right. I mean the Dumbledore thing is
kind of apparent though that wasn't as much of a retcon as the other shit
that one was not. Yeah they were. They were pretty gay, Yeah
like they it's there was something there and it was just like left on.
And also like you don't need to make like with that type of thing.
I guess you don't need to make it over like where they were, like
like what you need to You don't need a sex scene. You didn't need
them to make out for it for you for the reader to feel like sexual.
Some weird tension situation going on with them, you know what I mean,
where it's like, I think there might be more here than them just
being bros. So they her and the editor decide and settle on the name
Nellie Bli, which they took from the hit eighteen fifties Stephen Foster single with
the same name. So still a lady's name. Well now, Nellie Bly,
I believe was a song about um an African American in eighteen fifty It
feels like a lateral move kind in terms of how eighteen fifties reader would would
react to the pre Civil war song. Yeah, so this would be like
the equivalent of one of those TFM commenters naming themselves like uh rambling man or
something like that. Yeah, Like, you know, they all had those
tacky like song name user names and shit. I just don't understand the purpose
of this pen name at all. Yeah a Cochrane what it's an accomplishing krin
you cots Nellie bly Nellie Bli is a better name than Elizabeth Cochrane. I
agree with that. Yeah. So starts out covering the lives of women factory
workers in the area around Pittsburgh, but factory owners were none too pleased about
the revelation of their shittiness, and complained to the paper, just upset for
how many like no public finding out, how many like lonely, orphaned girls
are getting sucked into the gears of the factory. This goddamn skirts coming in
here, stirring up all the dresses. Who cares, I'm so what three
employees got eaten by rats last week. That's our business. It's our business
at our business. So she was reassigned to do more fluff pieces about fashion,
gardening and things that only a specific type of woman would read. She
was not super stoked about being the BuzzFeed of her time, and decided,
at age twenty one, she was gonna she was gonna do a little foreign
correspondence and see what Mexico is all about. What years this? So if
she's twenty one, she's born in sixty four se uh. She spent six
months digging around uh Porfirio Diaz's administration and the imprisonment of local journalists who criticized
the dictator. I have no idea if I said his first name right,
Probably not. When Mexico authorities found out about Blig's reporting back home about a
state run media in Mexico. A warrant was put out for her arrest,
and she had to flee the country. It's there's been zero seconds of time
where it's been good to be a journalist in Mexico. Yeah, can't go
well for you unless you're just doing a puff piece on pinatas or something.
I don't know, I guess, dude, because if you even if you're
write a bad thing about this one of the soccer teams, oh yeah,
yeah, you'll get stabbed in the face alone you're investigating a cartel or something.
I wouldn't want to cover sports or crime in Mexico. I'd want to
be the weather guy or yes. Yeah, you know, when you criticize
a dictator usually doesn't go well. No, typically also that for example Trump,
Yeah, because shogi or whatever. So she not great. Yeah,
she returned safely back to the US and published her reports in a book called
Six Months in Mexico. That's a booming title. Great with titles, six
months you have to understand like every title is like new back then. Actually,
yeah, I was gonna say, probably people know jack shit about Mexico
and Pittsburgh and so yeah, you know, what's the fucked up thing to
jump off at that point. Here's how like little people knew about the world.
As I remember, I when we were in New York, we went
to one of the major museum what's the one with the Teddy Roosevelt fucking quote
on the wall like a I forget which museum it is, but it might
have been this Minisoda, No, that's washing to Sea. I don't know
if it was one of the big like famous museums. And we were walking
through and this museum has been around for whatever, it's been around for one
hundred years or some shit like that, and longer than that probably, and
one of the displays and this is another museums too, was just like taxidermied
animals from Africa, you know, like taxidermied lions and like taxidermied like antelope
and yeah, all other kinds of shit. And I was just like,
this is creepy and weird. Like I've been to a zoo. I've seen
these alive, Like I don't seeing them dead does nothing for me. It
just weirds me out. Yeah, but like back then, yeah, they
didn't know what the fuck that was. That's the best they could get.
You read about it so it's crazy and it's incredible. Yeah yeah, there's
someone be like six months in mex that's like someone me like here, six
months on Mars, yeah, pretty much, six months in Narnia. Yeah.
Yeah. So back at the Pittsburgh Dispatch, they kept the offering her
pieces on theater and arts, so she decided to bail in eighteen eighty seven
for New York City. Though a decently big name in Pete, Pennsylvania now
because of her Mexico work, no New York editor was interested in hiring a
woman. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We get twenty girls off the train
every day from Pittsburgh who've been to Mexico. Tales all the side. I
heard it all before. Yeah, yeah, criticize Porfino, did you yeall
do it? Get it live? See. I actually just picked this topic
solely to hear rob do like an eighteen eighties New York editor. Yeah,
no, no, no, you can do it too. I'm just not
gonna try because you guys can you can carry this part of the really said,
I didn't go back and do her fucking Irish dad. If you want
to go ahead, yeah, throw some means in there, Lizzie, go
out Lizzie go out playing the yard. I gotta throw one in your mother.
I can time for a number twelve at sixteen. Yeah, she's one
of fifteen. Oh time? Was she the last? No? Yeah?
Putting in twelve in your mother? How does that keep larkins? It's not
very big. The block less blood's needed. It's an efficient penis. So
uh. Four months of rejection eventually led her to the offices of the New
York World and Joseph Pulitzer. There you go, familiar with that. I've
heard that name before. He started a lot of newspapers across the country.
H the Saint Louis Post Dispatch, my hometown, hometown paper. He was
looking for somebody to fake insanity to investigate the women's lunatic asylum on Roosevelt Islands.
She did that, She was the one that did that. Yeah,
yeah, I am actually yeah, I know exactly about that. Yeah,
fucking rad Yeah. Would would she do just have her period more or less?
Yeah? That put her in there, get her to a hospitals.
As for as uh annoying, I'm not like a huge family guy stand although
I do enjoy the show. There's just one funny part where they go to
like a nineteen fifties and sane asylum, and they just like throw them,
Like I forget why they put Quagmire in. But then then they like go
to Joe, They're like, you're crippled, you're insane. And then they
then Cleveland his neck and they're like you're black, you're insane, and they
just like that's why they admit them. Yeah. I just get the same
vibe here, Like she just showed up and she was like, I'm insane
because I'm a lady, and they were like checks out. Yep. She
started by checking into a boarding home and stayed up multiple days to get into
a sleep deprived mania while practicing crazy faces in the mirror. Why didn't she
just like talk about her political beliefs openly. Yeah, that would have gotten
her in there too. Also, like she sounds crazy already. Well.
She started yelling at other women in the home, and eventually police were called
to take her to the nearby court house. She was still not sure if
she'd be able to convince the judge and doctor that she was in fact insane
and incurable, but as she later wrote, she had no trouble at all.
She found the questions the doctors and nurses asked her at the hospital,
we're just reconfirming their bias and not giving up a proper diagnosis. Like,
what, uh, did you read any of her articles? A little bit?
I have some I have some some quotes in here. Um. She
meets two other women at the hospital named Anne Novelle and Tillie Mayard, who
seemed perfectly fine. But we're just poor immigrant women who were down on their
lock. Well, first off, if you can't speak English, you're insane.
Secondly, that's all I got. That's all I need. That's all
I need. If you don't have money and you're poor, a white man
for being poor. I'm a white guy in the eighteen eighties in New York.
That's all I need. Your poor that's crazy. It is crazy to
be poor. We don't talk about that enough with poor people. Yeah,
it's crazy to be poor. It's crazy. Why do you decide to doing
that? Well, that actually make more money? Due Robin actually referenced this
study a few times I think on the episode. But like, the less
money you have, the more stressed you are, The more stressed you are,
the dumber you actually become. Yeah, because stress makes you less smart.
Yeah, stress makes you dumb. The prospect of possibly having less money
makes people more stressed ye too, which is insane as well. I think
it was a study on like those farmers, yeah, and it was like
seasonal farmers. They were like a cash they were like cash crop farmers or
something like. Yeah, well I don't know if they're cash crop, but
it was something like that. Yeah, and where it was like if they
were predicting a good forecast, they were way less well even when they had
their heart because they only got made money half the year. Right, So
like when they were harvesting, they scored way better on IQ test i e.
Harvesting taking into market getting paid than in the non harvest season when they
when maybe they were planting or something, but they were just trying to live
off whatever fucking money they had made already. Yeah, they scored way lower
on the IQ test. Yeah, because you're fucking scrounging at a certain Yeah.
So in some way, poor people are dumber because they're poor. But
that's not really their fault. Doesn't make you crazy though, Yeah, well
no, it's still you're crazy if you're poor. That's a poor decision.
Yeah, you're making a lot of poor decisions. Yeah, yep, there's
a there's a thing called poor brain that you just make, like you routinely
when you actually do get the money, you just make the worst choice.
Actually, you know, it would be an interesting study, is, uh
if how much more professional athletes fuck up off season than non season? Or
how about could you only get paid during the season? Yeah? That and
also just people that win the lottery that come from like poor backgrounds. Oh,
there's plenty of documentaries on that. Yeah that's yeah, it's not a
good move the lottery either. Yeah. So both are admitted to the asylum
with Nelly. During her time on black Well now Roosevelt Island, she details
of women are barely fed and when they do receive food, it's spoiled meat,
flavorless broth, black and hard bread where she actually finds spiders living inside
her pieces of bread extra protein yeah, which yeah, who maybe she is
crazy. She doesn't want extra protein. She's just seeing spiders inside her bread.
Maybe they aren't there. That would be a good one, like just
to write off their terrible food. It's like she's crazy. She sees spiders
and bread. What are you gonna say? What are you pulling up right
now. That's see whe Roosevelt Island was in New York. No, I
know, but where in New York is what I was saying. It's literally
right in between Manhattan and Brooklyn. Yeah, nothing with the coastline that far
north is enjoyable. Yeah, no it's Brooklyn or is Queens? I can't.
I think it's Queens. No, but it's interesting. It's just a
little island like in between. Oh okay, yeah, like it's yeah,
the whole thing is probably just the asylum, which is like the island of
the crazy ladies. Yeah, it's not out. It's essentially just a shutter
island. Yeah, not even I mean you don't need to take a ferry
to get out, like a huge kind of you gotta take a boat.
You do take a boat. Yeah. They are bathed in ice cold water.
Sheets and blankets for their cots, and extra clothing are rare, if
not available, And the nurses method and care talk yeah but yeah yeah,
love went off. Hum but yeah, the nurses and caretakers are brutally abusive.
She recaps an interaction with one of the nurses who says this is a
charity and you should be thankful for what you get don't expect kindness. You
won't find it here. Ah heartwarming, Yeah, what do you what are
you even getting in I was gonna say getting into medicine, but that's not
really medicine then, yeah, that's like just that's like substitute teaching. Right,
Yeah, it's like, I'm I'm kind It's like someone masquerading as a
professional for insane asylums. I imagine like they would send the top notch doctors
to go take care of the uh societally inept. Not at that income level,
for sure, No, not especially not if it's fucking free. Maybe,
like maybe, like if it's an actual Roosevelt you know who a touch
of madness. Oh yeah, like a Rosemary Kennedy or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, like yeah for sure, But no, no, not
not just street people. Yeah no, no, no, they're sending the
worst of the worst. Yeah, it's really just a higher level of street
person taking care. It's like a German shepherd walking a docsin. Yeah,
it's like okay, yeah, so the women spending their free time cleaning of
course, of course the facilities, yeah, or were made to sit on
benches and her biggest takeaway from the experience is that the institutions create the insanity
that they're supposed to treat. Yeah, for sure, sounds about right.
Yeah, what'd you say? The other two, which is immigrants, Yeah,
like some girl some lady was like spaghetti and they were like, yeah,
good lord, what is it? What did she say? Get it
out? God? This lady keeps making an open round sandwich with cheese on
it, and it's fucking nuts. This is a quote from her expose.
So dumb. I was never so tired as I grew sitting on those benches.
Several of the patients would sit on one foot or sideways to make a
change, but they were always reproved and told to sit up straight. So
wait, wait, wait, they just sat there. They did nothing.
If they weren't cleaning, they were made to sit on these benches, but
just until they needed something else to be cleaned. Yes, so they were
on stand by it, yep. And if they talked, they were scolded
and told to shut up. If they wanted to walk around in order to
take the stiffness out of them, they were told to sit down and be
still. What, except excepting torture, would produce insanity quicker than this treatment.
Yeah, I can't. They would go to prison now and be like
this is pretty nice. Yeah, so I've prison now sounds a thousand times
better than this charity. Okay, okay, I'm sorry. I had it
the other way like you were saying, like they would prefer this to prison
now. No, no, no, I don't think so. They would
all take oranges the new black in a fucking second, which is crazy.
Seriously, there's some action like you're mentally stimulated in that situation. There's a
movie night, yeah, there's you get like you get like a fitness hour.
Yeah. Yeah. I would like the expert physicians who are condemning me
for my action to take a perfectly standing, healthy woman, shut her up,
and make her sit from six am until eight pm on a straight back
bench. I'm sure a lot of those expert physicians would probably prefer that.
Who was she fucking in this? Okay, so she did ten days?
Whoa, she only did ten days. That's it's not knownly to me.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to do ten days that, but I mean the
nurses. What she found was obviously nurses were physically abusive, beating the patients
whenever provoked, and of course the doctors would sexually assault patients. No one,
the woman couldn't do anything about it. That's yeah, you gotta assume
that's happening. Yep, yeah, yeah yeah. So after ten days,
uh, Pultzer pulled the necessary strings to get her out of the asylum,
as she obviously couldn't just leave on her own accord. What if Pultzer was
like God finally got her to stop applying. This insane woman keeps wanting to
write, were in there? Can you get this inmate to stop calling me?
So she publishes ten Days in the Mad House again pretty on the nose.
Title. That's a good name, though, what is it? What
was the title? Ten Days in the Madhouse? Yeah? What else do
you need? Yeah? That's I would read that. Yeah. And after
it hits the stance and shocked and enthralled her readers, a grand jury launched
an investigation into conditions of the asylum, even asking to accompany them on the
visit. I wouldn't go back. She seems pretty tough. I don't think
she gives a fuck. I think she's just like, yeah, dude,
I'll do whatever, I'll do whatever. Well, and honestly, we had
two journalists on today on a show earlier. It was awesome, and they
I don't know when they like. This guy was like, yeah, I
did. I was embedded with some rebels in Syria for a while and interviewed
a couple of al Qaida members over there, and I was like, yeah,
I guess they could kidnap me at any time, and blah blah blah.
And then he was like, with Saint Louis is more dangerous. I'm
joking. He took it, took that shot. He wasn't that it wasn't
that's a little hyperbi. It was a little yeah. But but but no,
like I think she's she sounds like she's built the way these journalists we
talked to you today we're built. Would you say she's perhaps built different?
Yeah, but never down bad. When they arrived, unfortunately, the asylum
had been given up, like given a heads up, and we're definitely prepared
for the visit this time. The boat to taking them to the island was
clean and new. The stories of the nurses and doctors contradicted Nellie's story,
but also contradicted each other's story. Everyone avoided responsibility for the conditions, saying
they didn't know how the treatment the food, the clothing came to be who
we don't know. Who baked the spider bread couldn't been anybody. Yeah,
the kitchen suddenly had salt and clean white bread. Most suspiciously, all the
women who Bligh had quoted in her piece and who had written to her and
just seemed as sand as her had been discharged and transferred or moved to another
quarter. Oh that's nice. I was just going to assume murdered. Yeah.
Like the furnace was burning real hot that day. Yeah, yeah,
ocean, the river got a little a little more shallow. Yeah. Oh,
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I look here. I'm gonna say, hey, don't pull me out.
This is too nice. Yeah, it's fine. He did the telephone
thing that those weren't in bed yet. Yeah. Also, people, don't
you know that's not just talking into my hand? Yeah? Right, we
get back to Nellie. So the asylum had taken many steps to cover up
it's egregious abuse, but the grand jury report recommended the changes Blie have proposed
and called for a some of nearly a million dollars to be added to the
budget of the Department of Public Charities and Corrections. So they gave them more
money. Well, giving them more money is a good idea, so long
as they get rid of all the awful employee. You have to replace the
administration of that, right right, right, Like they probably do need more
money for less spider bread and more regular bread. Hey wait, wait a
minute, let's not knock spider bread. Like. I don't everyone to get
like hype. Literally, like defunding the insane Asylum is not gonna fucking help
hick, absolutely, but it's you gotta make sure the money's not just going
to the same place, right right, Yeah, everyone gets a raise.
Yeah, we did it. We put someone to read out. Yeah.
So after this, Blie became a pretty famous name in the industry and brought
about a new style in stunt journalism. Year after this reporter, Yeah yeah,
she's the OLG stunted Tigers with Kim Jong Un. God, I would
fucking read that. Yeah, I would read that a heartbeat. Yeah probably,
I just all I would do if I was on that safari with him.
It's be like, you're so right, dude, Yeah, let's blow
off some tiger heads. So a year after the sexpose, she went with
a project that was a little bit lighter and more enjoyable. She wanted to
live out the novel around the World in eighty days. Okay, um,
did she do it in a hot air balloon? Because if she didn't even
get the fuck out, she did not, she'd not do it in a
hot air balloon. Well, then she didn't do it at all. Have
you been in a hot air balloon? No, it fucking sucks. Well
that's how they did in Around the World in eighty days, right, for
part of it, at least, it's been a hot air balloons. Yeah.
Yeah. Also, you have no idea where the wind's gonna say.
You have no control. That's why it's so impressive. I was in a
hot air balloon when I was I believe ten in Arizona in the middle of
the desert and we crashed. Wait what yeah, my dad fell on me.
We need crashed like we went in for the landing and it just kind
of, you know, took a hard tumble and it tipped over and everybody
comes straight down. No, you gotta, you gotta. It's kind of
like a plane landing. You're still you're still there's no reason to ever be
on a hot air balloon. Yeah. I don't think so either. You
don't just softly land. I feel like you should be able to. It's
a fucking balloon. They can kind of control it going up and down.
No, you're still going in like a direction. You're not just going down.
You're going either west, east, whatever. That's your fault for getting
in that balloon. Yeah, I knew the risks. Yeah, this is
a full on victim blame here. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Were
you crying? No, No, it was a tough ten year old.
He's crying so cry. So she took with her the dress. She was
wearing, a sturdy overcoat, several changes of underwear, in a small travel
bag carrying her toiletries. Okay, so she packed, Yeah, um,
but she was cool. She was backpack in light all right, all right,
she didn't have nine trunks. That's amazing. No woman can do that.
Cosmopolitan heard of the challenge and sent their own reporter to compete against Terry
no Elizabeth bislin O. God well, she didn't have changed her name apparently,
I guess not. Her name was Berta cocktrop yeah, she just had
the worst name. Yeah. Else, So they were competing to see who
could uh finish this journey first. Uh And also they're competing against the book.
If they could do it in eighty days, they do in eighty one
days. This is bullshit, right right? Yeah, Solis. I mean
she kind of eight days on a on a steamer crossing the Atlantic. Oh
yeah, there's not like flight, so like I mean, yeah, so
that's as a big chunk of your your time spent on the ocean, eight
days, So that's what Yeah, one tense just for that ocean. How
does she get cross? I mean the America North America part is not hard
of that journey. It's the fucking Asia and Europe. Well, do you
could do transcontinental railroad? That's fine, that's not a problem. The big
two biggest problems would be the Atlantic and Pacific. I would Yeah, it's
the ocean anything, the Lad's fine, Yeah, I'm guessing, but like,
do they have the transcontinental railroad at this point across Asia? Oh?
The Siberian Railroad? Ye okay, yeah. Uh. So travels to London,
where she gets her passport and makes herself legally three years younger than she
really is how I know. Yeah, push up that hair. Yeah,
girl, do you travels to France to actually meet Jules Verne, the author
of Around the World within eighty days? Okay, it seems like a waste
side. It's kind of racing here, but she's just sitting there and interviewing
him, like looking at the clock the whole time. Yeah. Yeah,
Like it's like we can only do a cup of coffee. Yeah, it's
like when you see somebody that you want to catch up with but not really.
Yeah, it's I don't want to get dinner with you, but I'll
get a cup of coffee with you, like maybe somebody from college, which
is anyone like that. I would be annoyed and stressed out and I would
just start drinking. I'd prefer to drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I have my heart rate elevated. Well, I talked to I
don't want in five minutes. I throw my fucking cup of coffee at the
wall and be like I'm getting a beer. I'm leaving. This is all
I can do, and then she kind of makes her way over. Um.
One of the highlights she buys a monkey in Singapore. Okay, good
call, sure, little shoulder money days. Are we now into this?
That's pretty big kind of we're kind of kind of just breezing through this,
like there's not a whole she's just getting she's trying to get through it.
Okay, she gets back to her starting point in just seventy two days.
What was your starting point? New York, New York. Okay, So
she does it in seventy two days. She beats both book, the fictional
character in the book, and her real life competition from Cosmopolitics. It also,
during this time, you could actually bet that, like the New York
World was taking bets on when she would finish, so it would be by
the hour, like whoever was closest on the hour, by the hour,
so we would we would bet that for sure. Yeah, it got a
lot of It got a lot of nariety, a lot of fame. So
she picked up a lot of fans doing this. Her story sold a record
number of papers for the world. But she never got any cut other than
the original pay. So she quentned why should she she shouldn't negotiate that,
I guess not. She quent and protest to be fair, that's bullshit.
Not that she quit that she didn't get paid, although sometimes I do,
like watch unions back like signed shitty deals and I'm like, what did you
want? Like the fucking like the streaming stuff, like the elevator unions,
the what the elevator unions? The episode Oh yeah, yeah, if you
didn't listen to that one, go ahead and fucking don't. Rob doesn't even
remember it. Well, that wasn't so much a bad deal as them somehow
not understanding that anyone could work their machines, judging by the fact that they
were anyone that would be like if you needed a remote operator to do the
TV in your house, Yeah, which I do, God, how do
I work it? We just walked out what do I do? But at
this point she's famous enough though that she can pretty much do whatever she wants.
So here's a quick list of the things she proceeded to cover. She
takes boxing lessons from one of the biggest heavyweights at the time, John L.
Sullivan, while covering his career. John OL Sullivan is forty two,
one and three in his career in boxing and just kind of taking some boxing
lessons from one of the goats of its time. Could he take Jake Paul?
I don't think so. I think Jake Paul probably starches him. Okay,
but he's very stereotypical boxer for his time. He's got the little curley
mustache. Yeah, he's like a unitar away from being a weird weightlifter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She interviews all the living first ladies. Oh
wow, who's the oldest back then? Martha Washington? Who would have been
the one alive? Fucking No, Well, I don't know, I'm asking
why is that a detail you need to know? Again? I said that
these are quick hitting facts, all right. Uh. She busts up a
baby trafficking ring. Whoa was it a pizza place? I don't think so,
bummer. Yeah, so close, guys, pizza created before that.
Actually, yeah, they were sending people to the insana so for even making
it so open round sandwiches. Yeah, that's right about that. Colsone was
invented Italian women. Yeah, close that. Now she runs the old playbook
of framing herself. Uh, this time for theft to investigate the injustices of
the justice system. Okay, it's like civil forfeiture and shit like that.
Yeah, just staying in a gross in jail present cell. Every jail cell
prior to the twentieth century? Is wet the puddle in there? What?
There's just a pea puddle in there? Yeah. She learns to train circus
elephants and performs on them. Poor Topsy rip, So she abused elephants for
his stories? Were telling me honestly, Let's be honest. She was probably
abusing. Okay, any circus pre nineteen god pre twenty years ago is abusing,
not a properly stab an elephant. We're what we're talking? Shit?
What were the Irish guy in there? All? Right? Now? Give
it a drink? Yeah? How long was Topsy alive? She might have
ran in autopsy? Um, I don't remember. I could have crossed bass.
They may have. I don't remember when Topsy was alive to be I
know when she died, which, by the way, too or something that
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Maybe she was responsible for Topsy becoming a murderer. She sensationalized some of
those Texas stories. I got Topsy just that bad rap. When when did
she do here? She set up Topsy. This was post eighteen eighty seven,
so in eighteen eighty nine, eighteen ninety. I mean Topsy was definitely
in New York in like nineteen o two, but I mean, you know,
eighteen we're talking. I'm looking like eighteen eighties nineties here. I'm trying
to see what's going on and come back to it. Yeah, does the
stint as a chorus girl. She learned how to abuse elphant. Yeah,
she learned how to abuse an animal. It was really cool saying she's canceled,
She's no longer a feminist icon. She learners the fence. Nice.
She exposes the poor conditions of the Magdalene Homes for unfortunate women. Oh imagine
that just sounds like that was just an insana culm. A pretty name gets
a kind of they're crazy for being poor. Yeah, low key discovers Helen
Keller. What does it up in a dark room or something like what happened?
Yeah, like she wrote about Helen Keller and kind of like, you
know, vaulted her fame. Okay, I don't think Helen Keller understood shit.
She gave Helen Keller a platform how did how how do they teach that
poor woman? Well? I agree, I think Helen Keller is a crisis
actor, and everything she did um like somebody else did under her name,
she was real. She was I'm not doubting her existence. I'm just I
don't think she accomplished what people say she accomplished. Like, I'm just saying,
how do you how do you convey that information to get them to be
able to be literate? Like with no sight and no sound? How I
don't get it? Like I've never read The Miracle Worker or whatever it's called
her the very ablest of you, I'm not, it's not. It's a
very good question, like how did it work? You can still convey information
through touches, But if if you've never seen and you've never heard, how
do you write a book? How do you understand the concept of language?
I don't know, and I don't care. We're just gonna yeah that happened,
Yeah, hell killer Right now, it's just so much, but we
should just all like pile on, let's just let's just do a hell and
Killer week one time, and we all just stopped to point out the parts
we think are lives, the real expose. Yeah, we're just doing any
research. We just like sounds like a lie. That doesn't make seem like
how people watch journalists now, like they're not doing their own research. It's
like that that part's a lie. What am I supposed to go back and
to the olden times and like, no, no, I'm just gonna guess
man, right, She went to seven well respected New York City doctors and
came away with seven different diagnosis and prescriptions for the same problem, and then
wrote them all up by name and publicly humiliated them and shanned them and docs
them, Oh wow, well year did you write that twenty twenty one?
She was og, so they would have just named everything COVID if it were
twenty twenty one, rob oh yeah, true, yeah God. And then
another quick little I just want to say, I know someone whose friend,
uh, their cousin was hit by a truck and they said to me that
it might have been Marcus COVID death. Really, are you serious right now?
Yeah? Okay, okay, that's this type of shit you here,
Yeah, everything and COVID death. I actually, uh, I beat off
the other day and all the sperm went and the toilet and died that's a
COVID death. Those were a million COVID death. Yeah. I think everyone's
pumping numbers OVID antibodies. Yeah. And then she interviewed and a Goldman,
classic Goldman, uh, an anarchist and political activist. Uh, kind of
a shitty one. And Lizzie Holiday, who was a brutal murderer. And
I kind of did little bios on them. Who's what Lizzy Holiday due?
She murdered a lot of murder. Just what does that mean? She's killing
babies? Sure, whatever you want it to mean. All right, it's
the news. Whatever I wanted to be. Yeah, that's how we're most
exciting. Yeah, exactly, that's how the news works. After doing all
this, she decides to quit journalism, and uh yeah, she gets married
to a super old rich dude. She's a she's a gold digger. Well,
to be fair, she's seen enough of the world to know the smart
move at this point. Get paid Yeah, yeah, yeah, get that
money. Get all the money that you didn't get paid for when you worked
for one of the biggest chippers of this time. Joe Pulitzer is just throwing
a handful of nickels at her and like, go torture yourself for a week
and write about it. We're not reimbursing you for the monkey. That's really
what said him off. It was a frivolous expense. Did you eat the
monkey? What do you mean? You didn't eat that monkey? They're not
paying for it. You made friends with it. That's bad news. Uh
so he's crazy? Has a detective follow her? But uh what hit her
husband? Yeah? Well, I honestly, at this point, if you're
old and rich and Nellie blithe starts fucking you, there's a fifty percent chance
you're being investigated. Yeah, yes, this hot young things start banging me.
Yeah, I know this broad because he went to that insane asylum my
own and run the place out. Especially when he runs a steel company and
you we already know her history with factories, you have to be completely suspicious
of, right, I mean she said she you're probably if you're an old
rich guy in the eighteen eighties and nineties. Maybe the steel mill. She's
done stories that factory. Actually, I was about to say if smart move
might be like, oh if I marry her and give her all my money,
she won't expose me while I'm alive. Well yeah, wrong, oh
okay, wait her husband, well, uh, she picks up journalism again,
just that retain them nice. Actually interviews people like Susie Susan B.
Anthony and Elizabeth Katie Stanton. I liked it. You're about to call her
Susie be Anthony, like Susie B Tony. Baby, you're just like friends
with her, Susie. Um. And when he does, she takes over
his company. Oh hell ya, she got that steel mill. Yeah,
she got that steel money. She's like, baby, I'm not writing an
ex. I'm just sucking you for that bank account, just trying to get
paid, trying to become a robber baron. And honestly, the old guy
would be like, oh thank god. No. Actually, do you think
a man would have given a shit about being dragged and frist like sleep on
a pile of money all day if it costs you your money. Maybe,
But I guess I think it's gonna be a lot worse for like a factory
or not for a factory, Like I think it would be a lot worse
for someone that runs an insane asylum that doesn't generate profit for the society,
yeah, versus is someone that runs a steel mill. Yeah, they'd be
like whatever, true stee when you probably don't want the public to know that
a bunch of orphans go in to your molten steel like fucking Arnold towards nay
or at the end of terminator thumbs up, prove it hop in the foundry
and find out why don't you get in that drum? Yeah? So she
improves work conditions pretty pro union. Um kind of makes it like a you
know at eighteen nineties Utopia does the company fail immediately after that? Funny?
I don't really touch on that. Yeah, bummer Yeah. Um. Time
goes by and uh, she's actually in Europe when World War One breaks out,
okay, um, and she's kind of just sitting on money. She's
retired, does what she wants and what does she do? She decides to
get back into reporting of course, goes to the front lines. What year,
um in eighth or nineteen fourteen? Okay, so right at the beginning,
yeah, actually gets uh kidnapped by the Hungarians? Cool sure, um,
and they think she's a British spy. But once the translator comes in,
um, they're like, dude, it's fucking Nellie Bligh. Oh they
know her. The translator did. Yeah. So she's released and Walt's out
of the interrogation room and goes back to doing her thing. So yeah,
she pretty much gets out of being kidnapped in kind of tortured and stuff because
they figured out who she was. That's cool. It's a fan. It's
good to be powerful drug, It's going to be rich and famous. They
wouldn't let us out, No, it just killed us. I'm not doing
so hot. Yeah, in any World War one or two political kidnapping situation,
nah, good look for me. No. Yeah. So she goes
back to New York City, gets a regular column, starts writing less done
uh, journalism, and just kind of like normal grand motherly type of things.
She's getting out there in age, she gets into charity fifties, starts
finding homes. Old bat's still kicking. Yeah, how many times you have
to tell you this? Whole bags your truth more quef and spider webs at
this point, it's better than eat them. Oh um. Her charity revolves
around orphans, uh, Coney Island helps out hundreds of orphans and just kind
of that's her thing for the rest of her life is charity. She was
so famous tour in her life multiple newsrooms paid dozens of stunt girls to mimic
her. So she was a trend setter. So they just were like had
other women go, They're like be, just be Nellie Bli. Yeah,
yeah, Like why don't you go to the Bronc Zoo and see how women
are treated by lions? Nellie Bli would do it? What do you mean?
Nough? Yeah, she was the original Jeane Goodell. Jane Goodell again,
whatever, Jane Goodall. It's the second time we said that on this
podcast, and the first time was me. So yeah, yeah, I
just laughed. I was one hundred. God, damn it, I mean
a thousand, yea thousand, batting one hundred's really bad. So she was
a spokesperson for numerous commercial products. She's featured on trading cards. Uh.
Someone named a horse after her. There's a culinary good horse name, culinary
dish named after her. Yeah, no, there, I actually didn't look
it up. I know. Well, it's like a sandwich. It's it's
a spider bread, spiderban, decorative spider bread. And there was actually a
conspiracy theory that she was a pen name used by a group of mail reporters
because how could a woman accomplish so much. Yeah, right, of course.
So it's kind of that JK. Rowling theory where it's like she didn't
write Harry Potter, it was a group. Well, to be fair,
they say that about Shakespeare. I was gonna say, yeah, and uh,
yeah, she did all this before women really had the right to vote,
because she died in nineteen twenty two of pneumonia. So damn wow.
So a pretty eventful life, traveled the world and put herself into very compromising
positions and uh, help move women forward. I guess did she or did
she just cover things? Yeah? No, No, she was pretty extremely
transformative. Yeah, she gave Susan B. Anthony platform, Helen Keller platform
for what she fucking knows what water is. I'm sorry, what did Helen
Keller do? Yeah? I actually know nothing about Helen Keller? So did
also Look, I kind of did a lot of tournamental health move that profession.
Absolutely. Um tortured elephants, tortured elephants hard, hoard, hoard,
hoard, but those were good elephants. Learn to fence and box, so
she could defend herself. I'm sure she's carrying around fucking sword all the time
if she boxed that guy just like went a couple of rounds with the heavyweight
champ of the world. How man, I'm impressed with the insane asylum thing,
just because like if you know that a you're not crazy obviously, and
b that you get to leave in like a couple of days, how are
you just letting those nurses like beat the shit out of you let alone?
I assume no doctor tried to do anything tour. Is that like a plot
line in the second season of an American horror story? Isn't there like a
reporter that goes into the things? Probably based on Nellie blythe I'm almost positive
it is, actually, But like I wonder if there was like a set
date, like hey, please come rescue me to that? Yeah, yes,
because I like that would be even more horrifying. Ten days is a
weirdly long time too. Yeah, I would have been like a week and
I'm good. Yeah, that's definitely like the plot to a a movie like
kind of like a what was that show called Black Mirror Mirror Politzer just leaves
are in there. Yeah, well, I mean that's like that is kind
of Shutter Island. Yeah, right, like because he's going there, he's
going there to investigate it, and then all of a sudden they're like,
nope, you were here the whole time. So yeah, I assumed that
he wasn't just there and they weren't just repeating the same thing over and over
again, like because that was the assumption right in Shutter Island, like the
story they told him as like you've always been here. Yeah, but I
think they sent him there to fuck off basically, right. I don't know,
I haven't seen in a while. Also, I think it's so he
has the revelation. Yeah, I think I think he was an inmate there.
Yeah. Oh, did he kill his wife or something? I forgot
his wife drowned the kids. His wife drowned the kids, and he killed
the wife. Spoiler I'm saying, Yeah, it's been ten years. Yeah,
no, if you haven't seen, it's been longer than it came out
in twenty ten. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, ten years. Yeah,
you're right. Ten Yeah, that's the insane a sound thing is like wildly
impressive. You know that game where if he changed one letter of a movie
and make it better? Shit or island Stutter Islands about insane butts. Yeah,
dad, you've always had a donc Leo stutter Island would be funny,
baby, I just go shutter inland. Nothing changes, It's just not an
island. It's on the coast. Yeah, it's the coast looking at Bay.
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have actually in two weeks we should have a special guest too. Not this
coming episode after this one, but the one after we will have a special
guest on the show as well. My baby, We're just gonna lay him
on the table. It's not your baby, Yeah, what do you think?
But what an idiot? Yeah, let's just diss my baby not here
yet, it's just an hour and fifteen minutes of Dan ripping on your baby.
Dude, it just any like you can't walk, you can't talk.
Yeah, you cheat yourself, looks like shit, you're bald. Hey what
have you won ever? Zero times? D I'm gonna hold that over him
for don't have a job, don't have a job, don't pay taxes.
Well, my baby will be employed from the get go because he'll be sucking
on the government teat government is what I call my wife's teats. Did they
oppress you? Yeah? Anyway, we'll be back next week. Um,
it's Jake's topic, right or no, Jake's in two weeks, I'm doing
I'm doing two weeks in a row. Oh wow, because Jake fucked all
the shit up. Yeah you really my special guests? No, no,
you in the week Oh I did miss one. I thought I had COVID
but I didn't. If you, if you would have seen me that day,
you would have been like, please don't Actually you guys would have been
fine. I'm I got double anybodies, I'm okay? Do we do we
just tell who the guest is in two weeks or like what he does.
Let's let's let's just it'll be nice, suppress. It's going to be very
related to the weekend that is going on Labor Day weekend. It's to start
a college football it's going to be kind of a college football topic. So
we will have think about that theme for the special guest. Yes till then,
well until next week, which is just a regular software history though Jake's
topic. Yeah, Jake's going back to back, back to back for Rob
Fox Jake Goldman, Hum dam Rochester and you just got self served.