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Welcome to you, softcore History.
Welcome back to softcore History. I'm your

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host for the week, Damn Rogester, and I'm joined as always by Rob

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Fox. Oh me first, because
Jake's fucking everything up. Yeah, it

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came in real low energy today.
That's a good one. Dan came in

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late low energy. It came in
right at six thirty. It's been pretty

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disrespectful on the last six minutes have
been just it's been six minutes since all

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time. Yeah, yeah, it's
my fault. I mean, if you're

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on time, you're late. Yeah. And if you're that's yeah, or

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like every high school coach you know. I actually, since you can go

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on industry, introduce me now whenever
you want, Uh, do you want

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to introduce yourself? I'm Jake Goldman. Damn good to be here. I

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guess some low energy. Yeah.
The thing about Gary V that we haven't

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taken a note from yet is we
really need to quit our paying jobs and

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take up an internship somewhere that's not
on paying so we can really understand the

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value of work, right, would
you zero dollars? Apparently I get really

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annoyed at most of the like fuck
you boomer stuff, but the one like

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anyone. And it's usually like a
boomer situation that says that on time is

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late early is on time, Like
they should die in a fire. I

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want to fucking murder those people.
They're the worst people on earth. Anyone

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that watches the clock for anyone should
probably, Yeah, because I love it

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when people watch the clock for an
hour, lead worker especially, and it's

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like, you know, you're only
paying for them from when they're here,

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so if they're a little late,
you're paying them less, right, Yeah,

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yeah, you cots zero dollars.
Yeah, you actually saved some money

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this year because they weren' gonna do
anything for the first fifteen minutes anyway.

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No, you're gonna pay them to
drink coffee, fuck it whatever. Now

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they feel rushed because they're late.
Yeah, that's true. Like the normal

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corporate job, I would always get
in, take about twenty minutes to get

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my coffee, drink the coffee,
get all set up, yeah, and

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you go take a shit. Yeah
you either. I would spend like an

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hour a day shitting. You've got
to be on my phone. Ye got

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to do it on the company time. Yeah, especially at a job.

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I didn't like that. It was
more less so at like TFM and this

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current job, but all the other
jobs oh yeah, oh yeah, if

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it's a job you don't like,
you poop a lot. Yeah and Dan,

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actually you could, like you could
take a corporate job and shit for

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like three hours a day and they
couldn't see a disability discrimination. It's a

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red flag on if you know about
Like if you have a friend who owns

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a business and they're like, I
swear to God like my employee, I

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just apparently I only hire people with
gastron testinal problems. That's how you low

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key No, he has a terrible
business and all his employees hate working there.

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I did pull that card when I
was valeting cars. Oh you should,

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Why wouldn't you? Yeah, absolutely, because they're like you took ten

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minutes in the bathroom, Like yeah, what kind of creeps clocking it?

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Well, a guy that is a
slimy valet, Like he's the head valet,

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the head valet, the master valet, well, the account manager for

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the property. Okay, so sleez
ball. Yeah, his name was Sean

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Anthony. Let's drop. I'll air
that man out. He used to always

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cover up whenever somebody would like ding
their car. I mean, I'm sure

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sounds like he had his employees backs
if anything. Yeah, it sounds like

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like what are you doing taking to
ship? Like we need to have got

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three Mercedes out? You got drop
a ship in that. I'll cover for

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you. Yeah, don't do it
on my time. I'm doing on theirs

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their car. He's the kind of
the guy that would kick the milk crate

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from underneath you. Oh he would. He would throw you under the bus.

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He wouldn't actually go to bath for
you. So let's talk about these

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milk crates, Dan, is that
is that what we're doing this week?

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No, the history of the milk
crate challenge or whatever. Yeah, No,

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that's a CIA operation. That's a
that's a psi op. They dropped

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just like crack cocaine. They dropped
a bunch of milk crates in the hood.

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Where are the people getting the milk
crates? That's my No one knows.

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I think they were dropped off.
Yeah, it's that is a bit

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questionable. That's like the news in
mobile rolling up and be like, hey,

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has anyone seeing the leper con around
here? Right? And ever?

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That's how that video got started.
True, It's like the same people pull

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that dropped off all of those bricks
for the riots. I was actually about

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to bring that up. Someone one
of my buddies like sent me a picture

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one time and he was like,
who do you think it's funding this ship?

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And it was like a U haul
truck with some fucking bricks in it.

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And I was like, I don't
know, I could have funded it.

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I've got eight hundred dollars. You
must there's like bricks. Yeah,

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there's like ten people there though,
Like it's like, I'll it's like a

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Venmo eat, Like they just Venmo
one person and they go to eat somebody,

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somebody. It's not a lot.
Can you imagine like expense this.

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I'm not saying this actually happens,
but you actually like expensing eight hundred bricks

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like on a company card? Yeah, like just like it's the Black Lives

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Matter corporate card. Yeah, we
gotta get bricks again. Fuck, do

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you think it is a black card? Do you think they have unlimited credit?

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The BLM has a black card?
Yeah? Why not? Do you

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think that's how they roll on brand? There's a lot of either way.

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I could say right now, I
would never do that. Che racist things?

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Are you holding in? Yeah?
Dan mentioned credit. Yeah, and

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I don't believe any of those things. My favorite during the whole uh pandemic

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was the NBA was offering up credit
cards and I think you brought this up,

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Rob and uh to incentivize like young
after offering the deal. It was

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during the NBA games or like the
NBA playoffs during the pandemic, it was

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uh yeah, they were offering free
jerseys if you signed up for their credit

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It was this jersey replacement insurance is
what it was, My jersey replacement insurance.

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It was the biggest scam I've ever
It's like if your player or traders

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the other two, you are just
taking that. All that is is like

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praying. Yeah yeah, I mean
that is purely predatory. Yeah, no,

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it's terrible. I remember seeing those
commercials was a good God. What

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it was like when like dudes would
show up at our attorney house at like

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nine pm with like a stack of
Domino's pizzas and like, sign up for

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this credit card, you get a
free pizza and yeah, you like you

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apply for the credit card and then
whatever, dude, like you just put

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down some wrong info. Yeah,
they would check it so like they check

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your license and ship, like they
can't check your social not there, yeah

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untill they get quick, untill they
bring the iPad around. But man,

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I've fucked up my credit school real
bad for some pizzas. It's not good.

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I've done worse. Yeah whatever,
Yeah in the moment, shouts to

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discover dude, that was wild too, Like it was worth it for the

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credit cards to buy like six hundred
dollars worth of pizza and just have these

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like who the fuck knows, like
craigslist workers like go around and be like

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fill this out. You're good at
pizza. You gotta think a lot of

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people weren't like filling out, like
actually getting the credit card though, I

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mean they must have had a good
conversion rate, like they had to it.

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Yeah if they yeah, if they
can't hurry, Budy got a credit

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card. But man, dude,
we would do that all the time and

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then like older guys, big you
have you're fucking idiots and like and we'd

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be eating a pizza and like,
I don't feel like an idiot over your

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credit score. Yeah, so we're
paying off your student loans. So that's

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a made up bullshit system if I've
ever heard of it. But yeah,

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comedy Jake is out in full force. I'm sorry. The credit score is

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a joke. Like, yeah,
credits a funny, dumb thing we do.

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Like the more think about it,
like the more debt you have,

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you can actually increase your score.
But also like, well I guess if

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you're actively paying it off, they're
like, oh, this guy pays off

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the debt. Yeah. No,
when you close an account, like when

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it's paid off, yeah, you
don't have as much open credit anymore,

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so your credit score goes down,
which is insane. Like paid off.

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I paid off a student loan,
paid off like a medical thing, like

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multiple medical things this year, and
a credit card that was like worthless.

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I just ended it. Yeah,
it like didn't give me anything good,

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No, you know what I mean. Yeah, there's no benefits to it,

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right right right, So it's just
like I'm done with this, yeah,

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and paid it off. So yeah, I don't know. It'd be

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funny for like my home people call
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oh, we saw that you h
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yeah, your credit score sucks now. I know you just paid off your

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bills and everything like a normal I
know you did it exactly what we wanted

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you to do. But but now
that you don't have that that you're less

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like a GP. It's the same
thing. A's like a GPA where somehow

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like one f is insurmountable but one
eight does nothing. Yeah. Yeah,

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you're like how the game was always
ragged boys, it's always raged rich.

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I just don't get as Yeah,
I want to like, actually, what

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have you just like dragged like a
rich person in front of a bunch of

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communists and started eating him alive.
Again, we've kind of a call back

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to an older episode where do you
start with the human? You go cheekbone,

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you go calf. You're cutting off
a piece of calf, Yeah,

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calf. If anyone goes straight for
the genitals, you kill that person.

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Yeah, that's yeah. There's like
a group of you in your donner party.

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There's like, let's eat the nuts, and you're like, we're killing

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him too. It's even worse.
It's even CITs of vagina to me,

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honestly, like if they're just like
I would be like, all right,

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well look let's eat first, but
then after we're done, No, you

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kill that guy too, that's yeah. But when we're hungry, that person's

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insane, castle little lean maybe cap
would be dark meat. I would think

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a love handle because actually, get
that ass. It's like bacon ham Well

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not for most people, maybe for
me, Like he definitely conflates my ass.

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Yeah, I'm a dump trail.
You's just more of a rump rost

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than a bacon. Yeah. True, that's true. It's a choke wow

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eating you to be like someone wished
to eat your ass but on a monkey's

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paw and they're just in the mountains
and you're dead and they're cutting off a

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piece of your ass. It's like
Kylie, like, all right, Dan,

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finally do it. I'll eat I'll
eat your ass. But then you

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guys get a plane crash in the
Rockies? Why did I wish for this?

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Yeah? Anyway, this week I
wanted to touch on a topic that

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allow people these days seem to question
the ethics and legitimacy of and that's it

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journalism. Oh I thought you're gonna
say eugenics. I'm still for it.

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Who isn't? Yeah, but a
lot of people are like doubling back on

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it. Yeah, I can't walk
that back. Yeah, toothpaste out of

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the tube, you know, ye, how do you run that back?

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I'm not saying run it back.
I'm saying walking it back. Yeah,

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right, how do you walk or
stroll it back? Rob thinks we should

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run it back and just bring it
all back. Yeah, how do you

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walk back? Eugenics? I didn't
mean the very thing I said, although,

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honestly, I bring up eugenics only
because I think a lot of people

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view this industry with the same distaste
that the eugenics. At this point,

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NI journalism that, yeah, which
is insane, But I mean, at

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the same time, not because I
kind of think it's broken. Yeah.

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Well, according to the most recent
Gallup pole, the majority of Americans distrust

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what we refer to as mass or
mainstream media. Why wouldn't you, Well,

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I think the answer is pretty simple, and it's not necessarily some like

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grand conspiracy for either side. No, No, it's it's money. Yeah.

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I've said that for the longest time, and I'll have friends that'll debate

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me about No, they have an
agenda blah blah. I'm like, they're

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like, there's left wing right way, and I'm like, no, no,

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no, no, the agenda is
money. Yeah, they're filling a

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market space, They're they find a
demographic. Yeah, you hit that demographic

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or there are chicken restaurants, there
are Hamburger restaurants. Well, actually those

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cows do have an agenda. Yeah, yeah, they seriously do. Yeah,

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they make it pretty clear, but
um, yeah, no, I

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I never understood that either. It's
like you think everything told to you should

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be considered that it has an agenda
of some level. Well. Yeah.

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The tough thing with journalism too is
that, like it's not about as unregulated

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as it could possibly be. Also
not super profitable. Like if you just

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do straight journalism, Talk to any
of your friends that come out of school

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and like do like local news and
everything. They're getting paid pennies. We're

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getting paid dog shit. I have
a lot of friends who have because it

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was a good journal school. After
college, they would just move to like

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the middle of nowhere to do like
some like Fort Smith, Arkansas. Like

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you're a weekend anchor. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, just like you're doing

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a specific beat to be like the
local. They'd be doing like local TV

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news there and show like that.
It seemed terrible, it did, but

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obviously they're kind of making it more
of an entertainment product. And obviously when

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you really harp on reaffirming people's beliefs, people tend to tune in, right

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of course. You know what actually
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and would probably have been a really
transformative film had it not been a sequel,

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is Anchorman two. I actually think
Anchorman two is like a brilliant satire

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of the news. Anchorman is not
a satire of the news really at all.

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It's just a goofy movie. But
Anchorman two is like a pretty fucking

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cutting satire. I don't actually think
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really good, but you kind of
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because you've already seen it. Right, There's nothing there's no surprise element to

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the jokes. It's not like a
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right right. It's kind of like
how people would try to satire or

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do parodies of Trump, but it's
like Trump is funnier than everybody else.

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him because he was funnier than the people

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making fun of him. Yeah.
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if you want to satirize something like
that, like this wear like S and

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L and stuff fails a lot.
You have to, like, you can't

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just do an imitation because you aren't
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person. You need to move it. And it can't even be like Trump

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doing it, but it needs to
be like a person, not even with

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the speech pattern or anything like that, but just like making the decisions and

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being or Biden or anyone else.
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better candidate for like straight up impersonation, like like Clinton and George W.

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Bush are like, he's more of
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need to be like what someone like
Trump would be, like running like a

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fucking bake sale or just something small
and you know what I mean, like

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like Field State Company or shitty university
or something like that. Oh yeah,

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really going for him really, but
it doesn't work. Just fucking impression of

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Alwin wasn't like great. No,
Like like again, like you can do

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certain ones like Bernie Sanders is a
good straight up impression, especially when you

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have fucking Larry David doing it right
right like and honestly I thought for a

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while they did a good Hillary Clinton
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kind of on the other end where
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it doesn't really work, like he
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that way. Well, Obama is so

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damn boilerplate politicians like milktoast to be
honest, yeah, I know people are

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like, he's super cool, but
because he plays basketball. Yeah, like

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smoke SIGs, which is inherently cool. It's very cooling marl Borough, if

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you're listening, give us. Are
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yeah, that came back. Okay, Yeah, we'll have to come

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back with our demographics and see if
it's you know, all smokers baby anywhere

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eighteen, it's thirty five. I
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actually probably better if you have some
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a society to more commentating opinion is
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we've shifted back, yes, and
we'll get to that. Yeah, but

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I mean even this isn't nothing that's
happening now is new. No, it's

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shit. Don't change even in sports
obviously, you know, look at the

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ratings of Sports Center. People just
want to hear Stephen A. Smith just

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yell about whether or not Trey Lance
is a franchise quarterback after two preseason games.

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good, good pool of data for

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him to make that conclusion for him, I think. So, yeah,

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you don't. You don't go back
to like a mild roast coffee after you've

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had someone uh rubbing cocaine into your
asshole. Yeah, yeah, free base

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that ship. Yeah, anally you
just don't go. But it just doesn't

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antally free base quick it absorbs quicker
job one did that right, Yeah,

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yeah, not smoke cocaine through a
butthole. No, she didn't smoke it

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through a butthole. She has someone
blow the cocaine into her. Yeah,

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it's not free basing, though it
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Anyway that you can't well everything is
next to that too, because she

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did like a oh maybe Nicks and
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I mean they probably both did.
Yeah, someone did it through their

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button. So General News, just
like ESPN, kind of took over their

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playbook. You don't really if you
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you don't really need to listen or
tune in to like know what their

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takes are going to be. When
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they go by the book they played
the hits, right, It's it kind

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of becomes predictable both sides. It's
comfort in you almost just go there to

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see what they're gonna say, even
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on the same way. Like I
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day when the when the Phillies were
losing to the gimebacks, Like I knew

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that Phillies fans are going to be
upset about that, but I still went

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onto their reddit just to read,
Yeah, yeah, you're you want to

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kind of bask in it. Yeah, you're doom scrolling a little bit.

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Yeah you know, you're confirming your
preconceived bias. Yes, because it's easier

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than question in your beliefs. And
then after I did that, I felt

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like a superior, better person,
Like I walked around my house feeling more

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important. Now with the topic of
journalism, I could have went an easy

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route, could have went with the
layup myself William randolph Hurst. Yeah,

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you could have, I guess,
and I'm sure at some point we'll eventually

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get to h okay, because I
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will cover in it, will eventually
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topics where eventually we'll have to get
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figured I'd go out like four topics
left, you gotta finally do them.

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We've talked about everything else in history, ran out of stuff, ran twenty

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twelve right now, what God damn
it. But I figured, you know,

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it's my episode. I gotta go
with the lesser name. M hm,

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the tradition. God, well she
was pretty famous. Yeah, yeah,

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the woman that is actually my topic
today. I think one of my

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first women. So maybe turn a
new page for Danny boy here. Yeah,

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doing a bio on a female pretty
sexist, I know. Well,

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Uh, we're going with a woman
by the name of Nellie BLI familiar Nellie

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Bly No. You asked me this
before we started, and I said,

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no, I wasn't familiar either.
My first thing is gonna be like axe

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murderer. You, yeah, pretty
much. What was she like, poor

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arsenic and her family's ham or something
like what what happened? Yeah. She

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is often regarded as the mother of
stunt journalism. So Nellie bligh is to

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blame for all our ills? Are
you blaming a woman for everything right now?

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No, I'm saying this was when
journalism was cool. People did shit,

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Okay. So rather than just commentating
on like whatever's happened in the world,

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she went out and found the problems. And she just a vice journalist,

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is that she? Yeah? She
was the og vice. I tried

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to opium nine different ways. Yeah, this is what I learned. Like,

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yeah, well, why don't we
get into it? Okay. So

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she was born Elizabeth Cochrane in eighteen
sixty four outside of Pittsburgh as one of

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fifteen kids. Her Irish immigrant dad, Michael Cochrane, pumped into two different

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women. A penis is just don't
stop. Yeah, I was. Can

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you imagine what eighteen sixty four Irish
yanzer sounds like? That's gonna be the

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worst sound in the world. What's
every though? I know, but imagine

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worse somehow. It's like you're either
Irish or you're Polish. Yeah, but

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like imagine worse back like off the
boat. Yeah, well no, that

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would just be Irish. They are, like we're talking about the first generation

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of like her dad is. Yeah, I'm talking about her though, Yeah,

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so she's the Irish ends here.
Yeah. Yeah, her dad's still

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just just Irish. Yeah, as
so Mikey boy dies when she's six,

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and Elizabeth and her mother side of
the family have to sell the land and

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soon after move in with another man
that her mal re marries. Little domestic

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abuse happens and they divorce and move
into a boarding home. If you're getting

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divorced in the nineteenth century over domestic
abuse, got a good lawyer. I

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don't know. I was gonna say, like it was he crucifying you on

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the front lawn. Goddamn becaue.
I don't know how you can get a

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divorce at that time, honestly,
Like, I don't like, you're the

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man's property in that era, like
not good. Like I mean, maybe

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she's just a tough broad and was
like I'm not taking any ship. Maybe

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she left him because he was beating
or she was beating him up. Yeah,

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but I mean, like, god
damn, that's uh yeah, feels

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feels fairly unheard of for the time. Yeah. Shouts to her mom for

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you know, kind of being the
trailblazer, tough broad, raised, tough

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broad. Yeah. So, uh, Elizabeth tries to stick with school during

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this time, and it ends up
attending i UP Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

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I hate that school. When she's
fifteen, Why is it there? Why

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is it called back? And then
also what's the other one? I UPUI

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University Purdue University, Indianapolis. Yeah
yeah, i UM EUEPV. That school

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should be nuked like a literal,
just for the name of it. Yeah.

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I hate it so much. It
just enrages me endlessly. When she's

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fifteen, she drops out due to
lack of money and helps her mom run

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a boarding house, so she's kind
of fallen back into you know, typical

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woman of her Eram, get a
job. How the fuck are you not

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married? Yeah? You doing wast
senior time in school? Seriously fill in

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your head with thoughts and shit.
Yeah, it's funny you say that because

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the Pittsburgh Dispatch runs a column in
titled what Girls Are Good For, which

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was exactly what you'd think in eighteen
eighties piece about women would read like some

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highlights please spoiler alert, birth in
children, and keeping the house tidy.

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Okay, so it was a two
column series. Yeah you think he like

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dragged it out like three thousand words. Yeah, you get paid by the

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paid by the word man, he
really get into it. And another thing,

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a woman's good at cleaning plates.
The plates so good at plate cleaning.

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Let us not mistake a plate for
a tea plate, which a woman

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is also good for cleaning. Speaking
of tea plates, sauces, it's every

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type of plate. This guy's a
billionaire. He has a lot of plates.

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Yeah. So Elizabeth decides, you
know, she comes across this article

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in the boarding house and she's like, you know what, I'm kind of

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college educated. I'll write a rebuttal. Yeah. So she does, as

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she's working in a home cleaning and
I assume yep, yeah, yep,

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yep, yep. So she writes
a rebuttal under the pen name Lonely Orphan

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Girl, and uh, pretty much
drags this dance who wrote the red pill

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column. Nice, it's a log
Lonely Orphan Girl. Just that just clicked.

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Yeah, that sounds like troubling only
fans Lonely Word. Oh no,

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they're gonna They're gonna be fucked come
October. Oh well well I think they're

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moving to fans lye. Oh my
god. Okay, yeah, somebody else.

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Why would you? Why would you? I'm sorry. Fans was supposed

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to be was like another Patreon,
and then everyone just started putting stuff in

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each other and then it became only
fans, which you can still do on

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Patreon, I believe, I'm can
you. You can still put things inside

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other people with their consents right platform
with that well porn hub for a while,

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yeah Jesus, okay, uh yeah
no. Anyway, so the editor

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of the Pittsburgh Dispatch, George Madden, not only published the piece but ran

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an ad in the paper asking the
open letter author to reveal herself so we

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could hire. Okay yea. So
he did, like a hundred women show

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up and were like it was me, and it was like a glass slipper

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situation where it's like I need to
find the writing. Yeah. Uh well

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back then, um, he ends
up hiringer. Back then, women who

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wrote for papers had to have a
pen name was kind of like required.

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I don't know why you couldn't write
on your your own merits. Uh,

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that's not anything. That's not that
common. Now there's a reason it's J.

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K. Rowling, So people think
it's a man basically, yeah,

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yeah, because like it's all basically
just because boys don't want to buy a

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book written by a girl. Yeah
we suck. Yeah, yet who wants

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to read some girly stuff? Yeah? Dumb? Well know how based JK

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Rolling was down from the get go. Me and that bitch a red pill.

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I love ret conning shit, dude, it's so good, Like God,

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I just don't understand why she,
like after the fact, talks about

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the characters like it matters to keep
them in the conversation. Dan, what

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do you not get about that?
Like, why does it matter what dumbled

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doesn't? It's it's to keep it
in the conversation. You know exactly what

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she's doing. I guess it's her
right. I mean the Dumbledore thing is

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kind of apparent though that wasn't as
much of a retcon as the other shit

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that one was not. Yeah they
were. They were pretty gay, Yeah

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like they it's there was something there
and it was just like left on.

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And also like you don't need to
make like with that type of thing.

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I guess you don't need to make
it over like where they were, like

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like what you need to You don't
need a sex scene. You didn't need

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them to make out for it for
you for the reader to feel like sexual.

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Some weird tension situation going on with
them, you know what I mean,

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where it's like, I think there
might be more here than them just

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being bros. So they her and
the editor decide and settle on the name

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Nellie Bli, which they took from
the hit eighteen fifties Stephen Foster single with

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the same name. So still a
lady's name. Well now, Nellie Bly,

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I believe was a song about um
an African American in eighteen fifty It

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feels like a lateral move kind in
terms of how eighteen fifties reader would would

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react to the pre Civil war song. Yeah, so this would be like

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the equivalent of one of those TFM
commenters naming themselves like uh rambling man or

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something like that. Yeah, Like, you know, they all had those

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tacky like song name user names and
shit. I just don't understand the purpose

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of this pen name at all.
Yeah a Cochrane what it's an accomplishing krin

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you cots Nellie bly Nellie Bli is
a better name than Elizabeth Cochrane. I

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agree with that. Yeah. So
starts out covering the lives of women factory

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workers in the area around Pittsburgh,
but factory owners were none too pleased about

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the revelation of their shittiness, and
complained to the paper, just upset for

405
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:30,799
how many like no public finding out, how many like lonely, orphaned girls

406
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,559
are getting sucked into the gears of
the factory. This goddamn skirts coming in

407
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,640
here, stirring up all the dresses. Who cares, I'm so what three

408
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,599
employees got eaten by rats last week. That's our business. It's our business

409
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:51,200
at our business. So she was
reassigned to do more fluff pieces about fashion,

410
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,799
gardening and things that only a specific
type of woman would read. She

411
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,640
was not super stoked about being the
BuzzFeed of her time, and decided,

412
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,200
at age twenty one, she was
gonna she was gonna do a little foreign

413
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,640
correspondence and see what Mexico is all
about. What years this? So if

414
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:17,000
she's twenty one, she's born in
sixty four se uh. She spent six

415
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:25,039
months digging around uh Porfirio Diaz's administration
and the imprisonment of local journalists who criticized

416
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:26,359
the dictator. I have no idea
if I said his first name right,

417
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:33,119
Probably not. When Mexico authorities found
out about Blig's reporting back home about a

418
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,480
state run media in Mexico. A
warrant was put out for her arrest,

419
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:42,039
and she had to flee the country. It's there's been zero seconds of time

420
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:48,599
where it's been good to be a
journalist in Mexico. Yeah, can't go

421
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,799
well for you unless you're just doing
a puff piece on pinatas or something.

422
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:53,880
I don't know, I guess,
dude, because if you even if you're

423
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,119
write a bad thing about this one
of the soccer teams, oh yeah,

424
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,880
yeah, you'll get stabbed in the
face alone you're investigating a cartel or something.

425
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,559
I wouldn't want to cover sports or
crime in Mexico. I'd want to

426
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,480
be the weather guy or yes.
Yeah, you know, when you criticize

427
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,160
a dictator usually doesn't go well.
No, typically also that for example Trump,

428
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:21,119
Yeah, because shogi or whatever.
So she not great. Yeah,

429
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,720
she returned safely back to the US
and published her reports in a book called

430
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:30,640
Six Months in Mexico. That's a
booming title. Great with titles, six

431
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,799
months you have to understand like every
title is like new back then. Actually,

432
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,759
yeah, I was gonna say,
probably people know jack shit about Mexico

433
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,359
and Pittsburgh and so yeah, you
know, what's the fucked up thing to

434
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,599
jump off at that point. Here's
how like little people knew about the world.

435
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,400
As I remember, I when we
were in New York, we went

436
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,559
to one of the major museum what's
the one with the Teddy Roosevelt fucking quote

437
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:59,079
on the wall like a I forget
which museum it is, but it might

438
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,119
have been this Minisoda, No,
that's washing to Sea. I don't know

439
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,519
if it was one of the big
like famous museums. And we were walking

440
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,599
through and this museum has been around
for whatever, it's been around for one

441
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,440
hundred years or some shit like that, and longer than that probably, and

442
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,000
one of the displays and this is
another museums too, was just like taxidermied

443
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,799
animals from Africa, you know,
like taxidermied lions and like taxidermied like antelope

444
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:25,119
and yeah, all other kinds of
shit. And I was just like,

445
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:27,559
this is creepy and weird. Like
I've been to a zoo. I've seen

446
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:32,359
these alive, Like I don't seeing
them dead does nothing for me. It

447
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,440
just weirds me out. Yeah,
but like back then, yeah, they

448
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000
didn't know what the fuck that was. That's the best they could get.

449
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,079
You read about it so it's crazy
and it's incredible. Yeah yeah, there's

450
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:42,720
someone be like six months in mex
that's like someone me like here, six

451
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:47,319
months on Mars, yeah, pretty
much, six months in Narnia. Yeah.

452
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:52,119
Yeah. So back at the Pittsburgh
Dispatch, they kept the offering her

453
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,799
pieces on theater and arts, so
she decided to bail in eighteen eighty seven

454
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,519
for New York City. Though a
decently big name in Pete, Pennsylvania now

455
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:07,480
because of her Mexico work, no
New York editor was interested in hiring a

456
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,480
woman. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We get twenty girls off the train

457
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:21,880
every day from Pittsburgh who've been to
Mexico. Tales all the side. I

458
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:27,200
heard it all before. Yeah,
yeah, criticize Porfino, did you yeall

459
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:32,160
do it? Get it live?
See. I actually just picked this topic

460
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,200
solely to hear rob do like an
eighteen eighties New York editor. Yeah,

461
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,079
no, no, no, you
can do it too. I'm just not

462
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,960
gonna try because you guys can you
can carry this part of the really said,

463
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,440
I didn't go back and do her
fucking Irish dad. If you want

464
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,720
to go ahead, yeah, throw
some means in there, Lizzie, go

465
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,680
out Lizzie go out playing the yard. I gotta throw one in your mother.

466
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:02,799
I can time for a number twelve
at sixteen. Yeah, she's one

467
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:07,680
of fifteen. Oh time? Was
she the last? No? Yeah?

468
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,519
Putting in twelve in your mother?
How does that keep larkins? It's not

469
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:20,559
very big. The block less blood's
needed. It's an efficient penis. So

470
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:25,240
uh. Four months of rejection eventually
led her to the offices of the New

471
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:31,119
York World and Joseph Pulitzer. There
you go, familiar with that. I've

472
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,440
heard that name before. He started
a lot of newspapers across the country.

473
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,079
H the Saint Louis Post Dispatch,
my hometown, hometown paper. He was

474
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:47,640
looking for somebody to fake insanity to
investigate the women's lunatic asylum on Roosevelt Islands.

475
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,039
She did that, She was the
one that did that. Yeah,

476
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:55,240
yeah, I am actually yeah,
I know exactly about that. Yeah,

477
00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:01,480
fucking rad Yeah. Would would she
do just have her period more or less?

478
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:07,480
Yeah? That put her in there, get her to a hospitals.

479
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,720
As for as uh annoying, I'm
not like a huge family guy stand although

480
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,039
I do enjoy the show. There's
just one funny part where they go to

481
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:16,960
like a nineteen fifties and sane asylum, and they just like throw them,

482
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,839
Like I forget why they put Quagmire
in. But then then they like go

483
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,480
to Joe, They're like, you're
crippled, you're insane. And then they

484
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,559
then Cleveland his neck and they're like
you're black, you're insane, and they

485
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,240
just like that's why they admit them. Yeah. I just get the same

486
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,119
vibe here, Like she just showed
up and she was like, I'm insane

487
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,319
because I'm a lady, and they
were like checks out. Yep. She

488
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,519
started by checking into a boarding home
and stayed up multiple days to get into

489
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:46,440
a sleep deprived mania while practicing crazy
faces in the mirror. Why didn't she

490
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:50,400
just like talk about her political beliefs
openly. Yeah, that would have gotten

491
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,039
her in there too. Also,
like she sounds crazy already. Well.

492
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:58,160
She started yelling at other women in
the home, and eventually police were called

493
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,920
to take her to the nearby court
house. She was still not sure if

494
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,480
she'd be able to convince the judge
and doctor that she was in fact insane

495
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,440
and incurable, but as she later
wrote, she had no trouble at all.

496
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:15,639
She found the questions the doctors and
nurses asked her at the hospital,

497
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:21,039
we're just reconfirming their bias and not
giving up a proper diagnosis. Like,

498
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,599
what, uh, did you read
any of her articles? A little bit?

499
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,199
I have some I have some some
quotes in here. Um. She

500
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,559
meets two other women at the hospital
named Anne Novelle and Tillie Mayard, who

501
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,079
seemed perfectly fine. But we're just
poor immigrant women who were down on their

502
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,679
lock. Well, first off,
if you can't speak English, you're insane.

503
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,880
Secondly, that's all I got.
That's all I need. That's all

504
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,199
I need. If you don't have
money and you're poor, a white man

505
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,280
for being poor. I'm a white
guy in the eighteen eighties in New York.

506
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,440
That's all I need. Your poor
that's crazy. It is crazy to

507
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:57,159
be poor. We don't talk about
that enough with poor people. Yeah,

508
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,239
it's crazy to be poor. It's
crazy. Why do you decide to doing

509
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,119
that? Well, that actually make
more money? Due Robin actually referenced this

510
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,760
study a few times I think on
the episode. But like, the less

511
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,559
money you have, the more stressed
you are, The more stressed you are,

512
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,039
the dumber you actually become. Yeah, because stress makes you less smart.

513
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:20,480
Yeah, stress makes you dumb.
The prospect of possibly having less money

514
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,639
makes people more stressed ye too,
which is insane as well. I think

515
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,639
it was a study on like those
farmers, yeah, and it was like

516
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,039
seasonal farmers. They were like a
cash they were like cash crop farmers or

517
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:30,679
something like. Yeah, well I
don't know if they're cash crop, but

518
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,880
it was something like that. Yeah, and where it was like if they

519
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,039
were predicting a good forecast, they
were way less well even when they had

520
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:40,000
their heart because they only got made
money half the year. Right, So

521
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,679
like when they were harvesting, they
scored way better on IQ test i e.

522
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,559
Harvesting taking into market getting paid than
in the non harvest season when they

523
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,719
when maybe they were planting or something, but they were just trying to live

524
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,079
off whatever fucking money they had made
already. Yeah, they scored way lower

525
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,480
on the IQ test. Yeah,
because you're fucking scrounging at a certain Yeah.

526
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:07,760
So in some way, poor people
are dumber because they're poor. But

527
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,599
that's not really their fault. Doesn't
make you crazy though, Yeah, well

528
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,679
no, it's still you're crazy if
you're poor. That's a poor decision.

529
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:22,960
Yeah, you're making a lot of
poor decisions. Yeah, yep, there's

530
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,800
a there's a thing called poor brain
that you just make, like you routinely

531
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,480
when you actually do get the money, you just make the worst choice.

532
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,480
Actually, you know, it would
be an interesting study, is, uh

533
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,679
if how much more professional athletes fuck
up off season than non season? Or

534
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,159
how about could you only get paid
during the season? Yeah? That and

535
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,760
also just people that win the lottery
that come from like poor backgrounds. Oh,

536
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,159
there's plenty of documentaries on that.
Yeah that's yeah, it's not a

537
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:58,199
good move the lottery either. Yeah. So both are admitted to the asylum

538
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:04,639
with Nelly. During her time on
black Well now Roosevelt Island, she details

539
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,800
of women are barely fed and when
they do receive food, it's spoiled meat,

540
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:14,039
flavorless broth, black and hard bread
where she actually finds spiders living inside

541
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,960
her pieces of bread extra protein yeah, which yeah, who maybe she is

542
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,280
crazy. She doesn't want extra protein. She's just seeing spiders inside her bread.

543
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,199
Maybe they aren't there. That would
be a good one, like just

544
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,880
to write off their terrible food.
It's like she's crazy. She sees spiders

545
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,920
and bread. What are you gonna
say? What are you pulling up right

546
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,159
now. That's see whe Roosevelt Island
was in New York. No, I

547
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,159
know, but where in New York
is what I was saying. It's literally

548
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,320
right in between Manhattan and Brooklyn.
Yeah, nothing with the coastline that far

549
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,239
north is enjoyable. Yeah, no
it's Brooklyn or is Queens? I can't.

550
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,079
I think it's Queens. No,
but it's interesting. It's just a

551
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:55,119
little island like in between. Oh
okay, yeah, like it's yeah,

552
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:59,159
the whole thing is probably just the
asylum, which is like the island of

553
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:01,360
the crazy ladies. Yeah, it's
not out. It's essentially just a shutter

554
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,159
island. Yeah, not even I
mean you don't need to take a ferry

555
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,039
to get out, like a huge
kind of you gotta take a boat.

556
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,519
You do take a boat. Yeah. They are bathed in ice cold water.

557
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,599
Sheets and blankets for their cots,
and extra clothing are rare, if

558
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:23,119
not available, And the nurses method
and care talk yeah but yeah yeah,

559
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:29,280
love went off. Hum but yeah, the nurses and caretakers are brutally abusive.

560
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,159
She recaps an interaction with one of
the nurses who says this is a

561
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,599
charity and you should be thankful for
what you get don't expect kindness. You

562
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:45,360
won't find it here. Ah heartwarming, Yeah, what do you what are

563
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,239
you even getting in I was gonna
say getting into medicine, but that's not

564
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,639
really medicine then, yeah, that's
like just that's like substitute teaching. Right,

565
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,960
Yeah, it's like, I'm I'm
kind It's like someone masquerading as a

566
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,440
professional for insane asylums. I imagine
like they would send the top notch doctors

567
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:07,840
to go take care of the uh
societally inept. Not at that income level,

568
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,800
for sure, No, not especially
not if it's fucking free. Maybe,

569
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,760
like maybe, like if it's an
actual Roosevelt you know who a touch

570
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,639
of madness. Oh yeah, like
a Rosemary Kennedy or something like that.

571
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,800
Yeah, yeah, like yeah for
sure, But no, no, not

572
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,559
not just street people. Yeah no, no, no, they're sending the

573
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,760
worst of the worst. Yeah,
it's really just a higher level of street

574
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,880
person taking care. It's like a
German shepherd walking a docsin. Yeah,

575
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:37,519
it's like okay, yeah, so
the women spending their free time cleaning of

576
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,760
course, of course the facilities,
yeah, or were made to sit on

577
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,559
benches and her biggest takeaway from the
experience is that the institutions create the insanity

578
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,199
that they're supposed to treat. Yeah, for sure, sounds about right.

579
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,679
Yeah, what'd you say? The
other two, which is immigrants, Yeah,

580
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,199
like some girl some lady was like
spaghetti and they were like, yeah,

581
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,679
good lord, what is it?
What did she say? Get it

582
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:07,559
out? God? This lady keeps
making an open round sandwich with cheese on

583
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:15,440
it, and it's fucking nuts.
This is a quote from her expose.

584
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:22,239
So dumb. I was never so
tired as I grew sitting on those benches.

585
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:24,880
Several of the patients would sit on
one foot or sideways to make a

586
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,679
change, but they were always reproved
and told to sit up straight. So

587
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:34,599
wait, wait, wait, they
just sat there. They did nothing.

588
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,039
If they weren't cleaning, they were
made to sit on these benches, but

589
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,719
just until they needed something else to
be cleaned. Yes, so they were

590
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,239
on stand by it, yep.
And if they talked, they were scolded

591
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,079
and told to shut up. If
they wanted to walk around in order to

592
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:49,039
take the stiffness out of them,
they were told to sit down and be

593
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:53,800
still. What, except excepting torture, would produce insanity quicker than this treatment.

594
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Yeah, I can't. They would
go to prison now and be like

595
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:08,280
this is pretty nice. Yeah,
so I've prison now sounds a thousand times

596
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,440
better than this charity. Okay,
okay, I'm sorry. I had it

597
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:16,639
the other way like you were saying, like they would prefer this to prison

598
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,360
now. No, no, no, I don't think so. They would

599
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,400
all take oranges the new black in
a fucking second, which is crazy.

600
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,360
Seriously, there's some action like you're
mentally stimulated in that situation. There's a

601
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,880
movie night, yeah, there's you
get like you get like a fitness hour.

602
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,639
Yeah. Yeah. I would like
the expert physicians who are condemning me

603
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,000
for my action to take a perfectly
standing, healthy woman, shut her up,

604
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,880
and make her sit from six am
until eight pm on a straight back

605
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,679
bench. I'm sure a lot of
those expert physicians would probably prefer that.

606
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:53,239
Who was she fucking in this?
Okay, so she did ten days?

607
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:58,360
Whoa, she only did ten days. That's it's not knownly to me.

608
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,280
Yeah, I wouldn't want to do
ten days that, but I mean the

609
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:06,119
nurses. What she found was obviously
nurses were physically abusive, beating the patients

610
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,960
whenever provoked, and of course the
doctors would sexually assault patients. No one,

611
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,719
the woman couldn't do anything about it. That's yeah, you gotta assume

612
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,280
that's happening. Yep, yeah,
yeah yeah. So after ten days,

613
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,079
uh, Pultzer pulled the necessary strings
to get her out of the asylum,

614
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920
as she obviously couldn't just leave on
her own accord. What if Pultzer was

615
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,440
like God finally got her to stop
applying. This insane woman keeps wanting to

616
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:36,119
write, were in there? Can
you get this inmate to stop calling me?

617
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,960
So she publishes ten Days in the
Mad House again pretty on the nose.

618
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:45,039
Title. That's a good name,
though, what is it? What

619
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:47,519
was the title? Ten Days in
the Madhouse? Yeah? What else do

620
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:51,760
you need? Yeah? That's I
would read that. Yeah. And after

621
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,239
it hits the stance and shocked and
enthralled her readers, a grand jury launched

622
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:01,320
an investigation into conditions of the asylum, even asking to accompany them on the

623
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,840
visit. I wouldn't go back.
She seems pretty tough. I don't think

624
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,440
she gives a fuck. I think
she's just like, yeah, dude,

625
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,119
I'll do whatever, I'll do whatever. Well, and honestly, we had

626
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:15,960
two journalists on today on a show
earlier. It was awesome, and they

627
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,039
I don't know when they like.
This guy was like, yeah, I

628
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,440
did. I was embedded with some
rebels in Syria for a while and interviewed

629
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,239
a couple of al Qaida members over
there, and I was like, yeah,

630
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,840
I guess they could kidnap me at
any time, and blah blah blah.

631
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
And then he was like, with
Saint Louis is more dangerous. I'm

632
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,320
joking. He took it, took
that shot. He wasn't that it wasn't

633
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960
that's a little hyperbi. It was
a little yeah. But but but no,

634
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:45,599
like I think she's she sounds like
she's built the way these journalists we

635
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:49,119
talked to you today we're built.
Would you say she's perhaps built different?

636
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,440
Yeah, but never down bad.
When they arrived, unfortunately, the asylum

637
00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:59,719
had been given up, like given
a heads up, and we're definitely prepared

638
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,440
for the visit this time. The
boat to taking them to the island was

639
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,159
clean and new. The stories of
the nurses and doctors contradicted Nellie's story,

640
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:13,960
but also contradicted each other's story.
Everyone avoided responsibility for the conditions, saying

641
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,639
they didn't know how the treatment the
food, the clothing came to be who

642
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,960
we don't know. Who baked the
spider bread couldn't been anybody. Yeah,

643
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:29,559
the kitchen suddenly had salt and clean
white bread. Most suspiciously, all the

644
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:35,199
women who Bligh had quoted in her
piece and who had written to her and

645
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,800
just seemed as sand as her had
been discharged and transferred or moved to another

646
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,679
quarter. Oh that's nice. I
was just going to assume murdered. Yeah.

647
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,760
Like the furnace was burning real hot
that day. Yeah, yeah,

648
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:50,519
ocean, the river got a little
a little more shallow. Yeah. Oh,

649
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,760
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650
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656
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657
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658
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659
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660
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661
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662
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Not necessarily something I personally care about
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663
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664
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665
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666
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668
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669
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670
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671
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just lies to me at this point. The pillows too, I think they're

672
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set. It's a mess with you
at this point. Yeah, yeah,

673
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like it's like, oh yeah,
we're cooling down to see it is sixty

674
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eight in this house and it's like
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675
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676
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677
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yeah, they're all the stuff's cooling. Like Dan said, it is not

678
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679
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680
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681
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682
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I would get a ghostbed, a
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683
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684
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685
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686
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sense to me, like physically,
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687
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the last time you said, it's
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688
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689
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690
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708
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best mattresses in the world. They're
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709
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down on the one today in the
office for a while because I enjoyed it

710
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so much. Um So, yeah, ghost bed. Would Nellie Blive slept

711
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,360
on a ghostbed? She sure would. I can sell you what. She'd

712
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,280
never have to write a story about
ghost beds factories because they treat their employees

713
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damn well. She probably wouldn't have
accomplished all the things she accomplished by sleeping

714
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,039
on a ghost bed because she would
have never gotten out of bed. If

715
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:43,039
that insane asylum had ghost beds,
she would have died in there. Yeah.

716
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,800
I look here. I'm gonna say, hey, don't pull me out.

717
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,039
This is too nice. Yeah,
it's fine. He did the telephone

718
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:50,760
thing that those weren't in bed yet. Yeah. Also, people, don't

719
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,480
you know that's not just talking into
my hand? Yeah? Right, we

720
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:57,760
get back to Nellie. So the
asylum had taken many steps to cover up

721
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,840
it's egregious abuse, but the grand
jury report recommended the changes Blie have proposed

722
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,320
and called for a some of nearly
a million dollars to be added to the

723
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,199
budget of the Department of Public Charities
and Corrections. So they gave them more

724
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:19,239
money. Well, giving them more
money is a good idea, so long

725
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,639
as they get rid of all the
awful employee. You have to replace the

726
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:24,719
administration of that, right right,
right, Like they probably do need more

727
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,519
money for less spider bread and more
regular bread. Hey wait, wait a

728
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:37,000
minute, let's not knock spider bread. Like. I don't everyone to get

729
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:42,920
like hype. Literally, like defunding
the insane Asylum is not gonna fucking help

730
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,400
hick, absolutely, but it's you
gotta make sure the money's not just going

731
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,159
to the same place, right right, Yeah, everyone gets a raise.

732
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,880
Yeah, we did it. We
put someone to read out. Yeah.

733
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:59,079
So after this, Blie became a
pretty famous name in the industry and brought

734
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:02,960
about a new style in stunt journalism. Year after this reporter, Yeah yeah,

735
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,840
she's the OLG stunted Tigers with Kim
Jong Un. God, I would

736
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,679
fucking read that. Yeah, I
would read that a heartbeat. Yeah probably,

737
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,159
I just all I would do if
I was on that safari with him.

738
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:19,360
It's be like, you're so right, dude, Yeah, let's blow

739
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,079
off some tiger heads. So a
year after the sexpose, she went with

740
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,559
a project that was a little bit
lighter and more enjoyable. She wanted to

741
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:31,320
live out the novel around the World
in eighty days. Okay, um,

742
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:34,480
did she do it in a hot
air balloon? Because if she didn't even

743
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:36,920
get the fuck out, she did
not, she'd not do it in a

744
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:42,920
hot air balloon. Well, then
she didn't do it at all. Have

745
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:45,519
you been in a hot air balloon? No, it fucking sucks. Well

746
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,639
that's how they did in Around the
World in eighty days, right, for

747
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,280
part of it, at least,
it's been a hot air balloons. Yeah.

748
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,440
Yeah. Also, you have no
idea where the wind's gonna say.

749
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:58,840
You have no control. That's why
it's so impressive. I was in a

750
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,760
hot air balloon when I was I
believe ten in Arizona in the middle of

751
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:07,480
the desert and we crashed. Wait
what yeah, my dad fell on me.

752
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:13,280
We need crashed like we went in
for the landing and it just kind

753
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,079
of, you know, took a
hard tumble and it tipped over and everybody

754
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,440
comes straight down. No, you
gotta, you gotta. It's kind of

755
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,800
like a plane landing. You're still
you're still there's no reason to ever be

756
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,840
on a hot air balloon. Yeah. I don't think so either. You

757
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,039
don't just softly land. I feel
like you should be able to. It's

758
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:34,639
a fucking balloon. They can kind
of control it going up and down.

759
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,400
No, you're still going in like
a direction. You're not just going down.

760
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:42,000
You're going either west, east,
whatever. That's your fault for getting

761
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,440
in that balloon. Yeah, I
knew the risks. Yeah, this is

762
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,719
a full on victim blame here.
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Were

763
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,719
you crying? No, No,
it was a tough ten year old.

764
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,800
He's crying so cry. So she
took with her the dress. She was

765
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,280
wearing, a sturdy overcoat, several
changes of underwear, in a small travel

766
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:07,880
bag carrying her toiletries. Okay,
so she packed, Yeah, um,

767
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:13,800
but she was cool. She was
backpack in light all right, all right,

768
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,920
she didn't have nine trunks. That's
amazing. No woman can do that.

769
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:22,880
Cosmopolitan heard of the challenge and sent
their own reporter to compete against Terry

770
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,559
no Elizabeth bislin O. God well, she didn't have changed her name apparently,

771
00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:31,719
I guess not. Her name was
Berta cocktrop yeah, she just had

772
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:37,159
the worst name. Yeah. Else, So they were competing to see who

773
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:43,400
could uh finish this journey first.
Uh And also they're competing against the book.

774
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,719
If they could do it in eighty
days, they do in eighty one

775
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,280
days. This is bullshit, right
right? Yeah, Solis. I mean

776
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,679
she kind of eight days on a
on a steamer crossing the Atlantic. Oh

777
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,360
yeah, there's not like flight,
so like I mean, yeah, so

778
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,880
that's as a big chunk of your
your time spent on the ocean, eight

779
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,760
days, So that's what Yeah,
one tense just for that ocean. How

780
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,480
does she get cross? I mean
the America North America part is not hard

781
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:13,599
of that journey. It's the fucking
Asia and Europe. Well, do you

782
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:15,800
could do transcontinental railroad? That's fine, that's not a problem. The big

783
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,239
two biggest problems would be the Atlantic
and Pacific. I would Yeah, it's

784
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,719
the ocean anything, the Lad's fine, Yeah, I'm guessing, but like,

785
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,639
do they have the transcontinental railroad at
this point across Asia? Oh?

786
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:31,199
The Siberian Railroad? Ye okay,
yeah. Uh. So travels to London,

787
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,119
where she gets her passport and makes
herself legally three years younger than she

788
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,679
really is how I know. Yeah, push up that hair. Yeah,

789
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,639
girl, do you travels to France
to actually meet Jules Verne, the author

790
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,199
of Around the World within eighty days? Okay, it seems like a waste

791
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,960
side. It's kind of racing here, but she's just sitting there and interviewing

792
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,920
him, like looking at the clock
the whole time. Yeah. Yeah,

793
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Like it's like we can only do
a cup of coffee. Yeah, it's

794
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:58,599
like when you see somebody that you
want to catch up with but not really.

795
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:00,440
Yeah, it's I don't want to
get dinner with you, but I'll

796
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,800
get a cup of coffee with you, like maybe somebody from college, which

797
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,719
is anyone like that. I would
be annoyed and stressed out and I would

798
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,639
just start drinking. I'd prefer to
drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

799
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,199
yeah, I have my heart rate
elevated. Well, I talked to I

800
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:21,199
don't want in five minutes. I
throw my fucking cup of coffee at the

801
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,360
wall and be like I'm getting a
beer. I'm leaving. This is all

802
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,320
I can do, and then she
kind of makes her way over. Um.

803
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,440
One of the highlights she buys a
monkey in Singapore. Okay, good

804
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,400
call, sure, little shoulder money
days. Are we now into this?

805
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:40,159
That's pretty big kind of we're kind
of kind of just breezing through this,

806
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,760
like there's not a whole she's just
getting she's trying to get through it.

807
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,320
Okay, she gets back to her
starting point in just seventy two days.

808
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,840
What was your starting point? New
York, New York. Okay, So

809
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,679
she does it in seventy two days. She beats both book, the fictional

810
00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:00,559
character in the book, and her
real life competition from Cosmopolitics. It also,

811
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:06,880
during this time, you could actually
bet that, like the New York

812
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:13,239
World was taking bets on when she
would finish, so it would be by

813
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,599
the hour, like whoever was closest
on the hour, by the hour,

814
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,360
so we would we would bet that
for sure. Yeah, it got a

815
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,679
lot of It got a lot of
nariety, a lot of fame. So

816
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,400
she picked up a lot of fans
doing this. Her story sold a record

817
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:29,679
number of papers for the world.
But she never got any cut other than

818
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:35,079
the original pay. So she quentned
why should she she shouldn't negotiate that,

819
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,360
I guess not. She quent and
protest to be fair, that's bullshit.

820
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:42,400
Not that she quit that she didn't
get paid, although sometimes I do,

821
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,039
like watch unions back like signed shitty
deals and I'm like, what did you

822
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:51,519
want? Like the fucking like the
streaming stuff, like the elevator unions,

823
00:55:52,639 --> 00:56:00,800
the what the elevator unions? The
episode Oh yeah, yeah, if you

824
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,719
didn't listen to that one, go
ahead and fucking don't. Rob doesn't even

825
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,239
remember it. Well, that wasn't
so much a bad deal as them somehow

826
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,960
not understanding that anyone could work their
machines, judging by the fact that they

827
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,599
were anyone that would be like if
you needed a remote operator to do the

828
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:19,199
TV in your house, Yeah,
which I do, God, how do

829
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,719
I work it? We just walked
out what do I do? But at

830
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,960
this point she's famous enough though that
she can pretty much do whatever she wants.

831
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:32,360
So here's a quick list of the
things she proceeded to cover. She

832
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:37,840
takes boxing lessons from one of the
biggest heavyweights at the time, John L.

833
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,519
Sullivan, while covering his career.
John OL Sullivan is forty two,

834
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:45,199
one and three in his career in
boxing and just kind of taking some boxing

835
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,800
lessons from one of the goats of
its time. Could he take Jake Paul?

836
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,400
I don't think so. I think
Jake Paul probably starches him. Okay,

837
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:57,480
but he's very stereotypical boxer for his
time. He's got the little curley

838
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:00,400
mustache. Yeah, he's like a
unitar away from being a weird weightlifter.

839
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:05,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She
interviews all the living first ladies. Oh

840
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,679
wow, who's the oldest back then? Martha Washington? Who would have been

841
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:15,239
the one alive? Fucking No,
Well, I don't know, I'm asking

842
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,119
why is that a detail you need
to know? Again? I said that

843
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:23,719
these are quick hitting facts, all
right. Uh. She busts up a

844
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:30,079
baby trafficking ring. Whoa was it
a pizza place? I don't think so,

845
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:35,880
bummer. Yeah, so close,
guys, pizza created before that.

846
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,800
Actually, yeah, they were sending
people to the insana so for even making

847
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:43,719
it so open round sandwiches. Yeah, that's right about that. Colsone was

848
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:50,119
invented Italian women. Yeah, close
that. Now she runs the old playbook

849
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:54,159
of framing herself. Uh, this
time for theft to investigate the injustices of

850
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,679
the justice system. Okay, it's
like civil forfeiture and shit like that.

851
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:06,280
Yeah, just staying in a gross
in jail present cell. Every jail cell

852
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,199
prior to the twentieth century? Is
wet the puddle in there? What?

853
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,480
There's just a pea puddle in there? Yeah. She learns to train circus

854
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:20,239
elephants and performs on them. Poor
Topsy rip, So she abused elephants for

855
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,760
his stories? Were telling me honestly, Let's be honest. She was probably

856
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:29,239
abusing. Okay, any circus pre
nineteen god pre twenty years ago is abusing,

857
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,880
not a properly stab an elephant.
We're what we're talking? Shit?

858
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,719
What were the Irish guy in there? All? Right? Now? Give

859
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,119
it a drink? Yeah? How
long was Topsy alive? She might have

860
00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:39,639
ran in autopsy? Um, I
don't remember. I could have crossed bass.

861
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,760
They may have. I don't remember
when Topsy was alive to be I

862
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,880
know when she died, which,
by the way, too or something that

863
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:51,480
We got shirts Topsy Elephants, electric
elephant shirts. A software history dot com

864
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:52,679
Go ahead and buy one, Go
buy a tank? What else you do

865
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,960
support the Brandtopsy was born in eighteen
seventy five. She could have definitely ran.

866
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,639
Maybe she was responsible for Topsy becoming
a murderer. She sensationalized some of

867
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:06,800
those Texas stories. I got Topsy
just that bad rap. When when did

868
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:12,719
she do here? She set up
Topsy. This was post eighteen eighty seven,

869
00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:19,480
so in eighteen eighty nine, eighteen
ninety. I mean Topsy was definitely

870
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:22,360
in New York in like nineteen o
two, but I mean, you know,

871
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,639
eighteen we're talking. I'm looking like
eighteen eighties nineties here. I'm trying

872
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:29,440
to see what's going on and come
back to it. Yeah, does the

873
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,320
stint as a chorus girl. She
learned how to abuse elphant. Yeah,

874
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,159
she learned how to abuse an animal. It was really cool saying she's canceled,

875
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:42,159
She's no longer a feminist icon.
She learners the fence. Nice.

876
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:51,159
She exposes the poor conditions of the
Magdalene Homes for unfortunate women. Oh imagine

877
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:54,800
that just sounds like that was just
an insana culm. A pretty name gets

878
00:59:54,840 --> 01:00:00,639
a kind of they're crazy for being
poor. Yeah, low key discovers Helen

879
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:08,760
Keller. What does it up in
a dark room or something like what happened?

880
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,079
Yeah, like she wrote about Helen
Keller and kind of like, you

881
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:17,199
know, vaulted her fame. Okay, I don't think Helen Keller understood shit.

882
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,920
She gave Helen Keller a platform how
did how how do they teach that

883
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:24,519
poor woman? Well? I agree, I think Helen Keller is a crisis

884
01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:29,480
actor, and everything she did um
like somebody else did under her name,

885
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:34,119
she was real. She was I'm
not doubting her existence. I'm just I

886
01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:37,519
don't think she accomplished what people say
she accomplished. Like, I'm just saying,

887
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:42,480
how do you how do you convey
that information to get them to be

888
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:46,159
able to be literate? Like with
no sight and no sound? How I

889
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:51,199
don't get it? Like I've never
read The Miracle Worker or whatever it's called

890
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:53,599
her the very ablest of you,
I'm not, it's not. It's a

891
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,320
very good question, like how did
it work? You can still convey information

892
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,639
through touches, But if if you've
never seen and you've never heard, how

893
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:05,800
do you write a book? How
do you understand the concept of language?

894
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,679
I don't know, and I don't
care. We're just gonna yeah that happened,

895
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,079
Yeah, hell killer Right now,
it's just so much, but we

896
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:21,280
should just all like pile on,
let's just let's just do a hell and

897
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,239
Killer week one time, and we
all just stopped to point out the parts

898
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:30,519
we think are lives, the real
expose. Yeah, we're just doing any

899
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,639
research. We just like sounds like
a lie. That doesn't make seem like

900
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:36,760
how people watch journalists now, like
they're not doing their own research. It's

901
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,760
like that that part's a lie.
What am I supposed to go back and

902
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,920
to the olden times and like,
no, no, I'm just gonna guess

903
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,400
man, right, She went to
seven well respected New York City doctors and

904
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:52,360
came away with seven different diagnosis and
prescriptions for the same problem, and then

905
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,840
wrote them all up by name and
publicly humiliated them and shanned them and docs

906
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,199
them, Oh wow, well year
did you write that twenty twenty one?

907
01:02:04,039 --> 01:02:07,960
She was og, so they would
have just named everything COVID if it were

908
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,719
twenty twenty one, rob oh yeah, true, yeah God. And then

909
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,119
another quick little I just want to
say, I know someone whose friend,

910
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,559
uh, their cousin was hit by
a truck and they said to me that

911
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:24,400
it might have been Marcus COVID death. Really, are you serious right now?

912
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:30,480
Yeah? Okay, okay, that's
this type of shit you here,

913
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:36,159
Yeah, everything and COVID death.
I actually, uh, I beat off

914
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:38,639
the other day and all the sperm
went and the toilet and died that's a

915
01:02:38,719 --> 01:02:42,440
COVID death. Those were a million
COVID death. Yeah. I think everyone's

916
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,400
pumping numbers OVID antibodies. Yeah.
And then she interviewed and a Goldman,

917
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:52,320
classic Goldman, uh, an anarchist
and political activist. Uh, kind of

918
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:57,440
a shitty one. And Lizzie Holiday, who was a brutal murderer. And

919
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:00,639
I kind of did little bios on
them. Who's what Lizzy Holiday due?

920
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,199
She murdered a lot of murder.
Just what does that mean? She's killing

921
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,239
babies? Sure, whatever you want
it to mean. All right, it's

922
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,199
the news. Whatever I wanted to
be. Yeah, that's how we're most

923
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:15,119
exciting. Yeah, exactly, that's
how the news works. After doing all

924
01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:19,719
this, she decides to quit journalism, and uh yeah, she gets married

925
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:22,679
to a super old rich dude.
She's a she's a gold digger. Well,

926
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,719
to be fair, she's seen enough
of the world to know the smart

927
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,960
move at this point. Get paid
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get that

928
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:34,159
money. Get all the money that
you didn't get paid for when you worked

929
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:37,719
for one of the biggest chippers of
this time. Joe Pulitzer is just throwing

930
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:40,039
a handful of nickels at her and
like, go torture yourself for a week

931
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:46,519
and write about it. We're not
reimbursing you for the monkey. That's really

932
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:51,320
what said him off. It was
a frivolous expense. Did you eat the

933
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,519
monkey? What do you mean?
You didn't eat that monkey? They're not

934
01:03:52,639 --> 01:04:00,360
paying for it. You made friends
with it. That's bad news. Uh

935
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,960
so he's crazy? Has a detective
follow her? But uh what hit her

936
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:09,719
husband? Yeah? Well, I
honestly, at this point, if you're

937
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,159
old and rich and Nellie blithe starts
fucking you, there's a fifty percent chance

938
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:18,440
you're being investigated. Yeah, yes, this hot young things start banging me.

939
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:23,159
Yeah, I know this broad because
he went to that insane asylum my

940
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:27,559
own and run the place out.
Especially when he runs a steel company and

941
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:31,960
you we already know her history with
factories, you have to be completely suspicious

942
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:38,159
of, right, I mean she
said she you're probably if you're an old

943
01:04:38,239 --> 01:04:41,840
rich guy in the eighteen eighties and
nineties. Maybe the steel mill. She's

944
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,960
done stories that factory. Actually,
I was about to say if smart move

945
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:46,119
might be like, oh if I
marry her and give her all my money,

946
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:50,239
she won't expose me while I'm alive. Well yeah, wrong, oh

947
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:59,440
okay, wait her husband, well, uh, she picks up journalism again,

948
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:04,639
just that retain them nice. Actually
interviews people like Susie Susan B.

949
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,559
Anthony and Elizabeth Katie Stanton. I
liked it. You're about to call her

950
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:12,840
Susie be Anthony, like Susie B
Tony. Baby, you're just like friends

951
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:18,920
with her, Susie. Um.
And when he does, she takes over

952
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,800
his company. Oh hell ya,
she got that steel mill. Yeah,

953
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,599
she got that steel money. She's
like, baby, I'm not writing an

954
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:30,920
ex. I'm just sucking you for
that bank account, just trying to get

955
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,280
paid, trying to become a robber
baron. And honestly, the old guy

956
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,800
would be like, oh thank god. No. Actually, do you think

957
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,400
a man would have given a shit
about being dragged and frist like sleep on

958
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,760
a pile of money all day if
it costs you your money. Maybe,

959
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,119
But I guess I think it's gonna
be a lot worse for like a factory

960
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,320
or not for a factory, Like
I think it would be a lot worse

961
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,559
for someone that runs an insane asylum
that doesn't generate profit for the society,

962
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,199
yeah, versus is someone that runs
a steel mill. Yeah, they'd be

963
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:58,360
like whatever, true stee when you
probably don't want the public to know that

964
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,559
a bunch of orphans go in to
your molten steel like fucking Arnold towards nay

965
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:05,039
or at the end of terminator thumbs
up, prove it hop in the foundry

966
01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:10,000
and find out why don't you get
in that drum? Yeah? So she

967
01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:14,599
improves work conditions pretty pro union.
Um kind of makes it like a you

968
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:18,760
know at eighteen nineties Utopia does the
company fail immediately after that? Funny?

969
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:25,480
I don't really touch on that.
Yeah, bummer Yeah. Um. Time

970
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:29,679
goes by and uh, she's actually
in Europe when World War One breaks out,

971
01:06:30,039 --> 01:06:31,639
okay, um, and she's kind
of just sitting on money. She's

972
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,960
retired, does what she wants and
what does she do? She decides to

973
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:42,199
get back into reporting of course,
goes to the front lines. What year,

974
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:45,159
um in eighth or nineteen fourteen?
Okay, so right at the beginning,

975
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:51,320
yeah, actually gets uh kidnapped by
the Hungarians? Cool sure, um,

976
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,480
and they think she's a British spy. But once the translator comes in,

977
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,920
um, they're like, dude,
it's fucking Nellie Bligh. Oh they

978
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,599
know her. The translator did.
Yeah. So she's released and Walt's out

979
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:10,320
of the interrogation room and goes back
to doing her thing. So yeah,

980
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:15,760
she pretty much gets out of being
kidnapped in kind of tortured and stuff because

981
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,280
they figured out who she was.
That's cool. It's a fan. It's

982
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,639
good to be powerful drug, It's
going to be rich and famous. They

983
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:28,920
wouldn't let us out, No,
it just killed us. I'm not doing

984
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,960
so hot. Yeah, in any
World War one or two political kidnapping situation,

985
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:36,400
nah, good look for me.
No. Yeah. So she goes

986
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,519
back to New York City, gets
a regular column, starts writing less done

987
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:45,320
uh, journalism, and just kind
of like normal grand motherly type of things.

988
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:50,000
She's getting out there in age,
she gets into charity fifties, starts

989
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:55,880
finding homes. Old bat's still kicking. Yeah, how many times you have

990
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:01,320
to tell you this? Whole bags
your truth more quef and spider webs at

991
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:08,559
this point, it's better than eat
them. Oh um. Her charity revolves

992
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:15,480
around orphans, uh, Coney Island
helps out hundreds of orphans and just kind

993
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:17,359
of that's her thing for the rest
of her life is charity. She was

994
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:23,840
so famous tour in her life multiple
newsrooms paid dozens of stunt girls to mimic

995
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,520
her. So she was a trend
setter. So they just were like had

996
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,439
other women go, They're like be, just be Nellie Bli. Yeah,

997
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,800
yeah, Like why don't you go
to the Bronc Zoo and see how women

998
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:44,760
are treated by lions? Nellie Bli
would do it? What do you mean?

999
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:51,560
Nough? Yeah, she was the
original Jeane Goodell. Jane Goodell again,

1000
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:56,159
whatever, Jane Goodall. It's the
second time we said that on this

1001
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:59,720
podcast, and the first time was
me. So yeah, yeah, I

1002
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,439
just laughed. I was one hundred. God, damn it, I mean

1003
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:08,760
a thousand, yea thousand, batting
one hundred's really bad. So she was

1004
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,039
a spokesperson for numerous commercial products.
She's featured on trading cards. Uh.

1005
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:16,640
Someone named a horse after her.
There's a culinary good horse name, culinary

1006
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,359
dish named after her. Yeah,
no, there, I actually didn't look

1007
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:26,600
it up. I know. Well, it's like a sandwich. It's it's

1008
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:31,439
a spider bread, spiderban, decorative
spider bread. And there was actually a

1009
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,439
conspiracy theory that she was a pen
name used by a group of mail reporters

1010
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:41,960
because how could a woman accomplish so
much. Yeah, right, of course.

1011
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,520
So it's kind of that JK.
Rowling theory where it's like she didn't

1012
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,000
write Harry Potter, it was a
group. Well, to be fair,

1013
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:51,399
they say that about Shakespeare. I
was gonna say, yeah, and uh,

1014
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,359
yeah, she did all this before
women really had the right to vote,

1015
01:09:57,039 --> 01:10:00,680
because she died in nineteen twenty two
of pneumonia. So damn wow.

1016
01:10:01,119 --> 01:10:08,520
So a pretty eventful life, traveled
the world and put herself into very compromising

1017
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:15,600
positions and uh, help move women
forward. I guess did she or did

1018
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,279
she just cover things? Yeah?
No, No, she was pretty extremely

1019
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:24,760
transformative. Yeah, she gave Susan
B. Anthony platform, Helen Keller platform

1020
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:30,439
for what she fucking knows what water
is. I'm sorry, what did Helen

1021
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,960
Keller do? Yeah? I actually
know nothing about Helen Keller? So did

1022
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:39,159
also Look, I kind of did
a lot of tournamental health move that profession.

1023
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:45,640
Absolutely. Um tortured elephants, tortured
elephants hard, hoard, hoard,

1024
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,680
hoard, but those were good elephants. Learn to fence and box, so

1025
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,680
she could defend herself. I'm sure
she's carrying around fucking sword all the time

1026
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:59,000
if she boxed that guy just like
went a couple of rounds with the heavyweight

1027
01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:01,920
champ of the world. How man, I'm impressed with the insane asylum thing,

1028
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:09,520
just because like if you know that
a you're not crazy obviously, and

1029
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,680
b that you get to leave in
like a couple of days, how are

1030
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,960
you just letting those nurses like beat
the shit out of you let alone?

1031
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:21,359
I assume no doctor tried to do
anything tour. Is that like a plot

1032
01:11:21,399 --> 01:11:25,720
line in the second season of an
American horror story? Isn't there like a

1033
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:30,760
reporter that goes into the things?
Probably based on Nellie blythe I'm almost positive

1034
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,279
it is, actually, But like
I wonder if there was like a set

1035
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:39,079
date, like hey, please come
rescue me to that? Yeah, yes,

1036
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:42,079
because I like that would be even
more horrifying. Ten days is a

1037
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,600
weirdly long time too. Yeah,
I would have been like a week and

1038
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,359
I'm good. Yeah, that's definitely
like the plot to a a movie like

1039
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:55,199
kind of like a what was that
show called Black Mirror Mirror Politzer just leaves

1040
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:58,039
are in there. Yeah, well, I mean that's like that is kind

1041
01:11:58,039 --> 01:12:00,399
of Shutter Island. Yeah, right, like because he's going there, he's

1042
01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:02,479
going there to investigate it, and
then all of a sudden they're like,

1043
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,800
nope, you were here the whole
time. So yeah, I assumed that

1044
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,840
he wasn't just there and they weren't
just repeating the same thing over and over

1045
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,720
again, like because that was the
assumption right in Shutter Island, like the

1046
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:17,920
story they told him as like you've
always been here. Yeah, but I

1047
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,720
think they sent him there to fuck
off basically, right. I don't know,

1048
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,479
I haven't seen in a while.
Also, I think it's so he

1049
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,880
has the revelation. Yeah, I
think I think he was an inmate there.

1050
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:30,560
Yeah. Oh, did he kill
his wife or something? I forgot

1051
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,199
his wife drowned the kids. His
wife drowned the kids, and he killed

1052
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:35,640
the wife. Spoiler I'm saying,
Yeah, it's been ten years. Yeah,

1053
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,079
no, if you haven't seen,
it's been longer than it came out

1054
01:12:40,119 --> 01:12:44,079
in twenty ten. Yeah yeah,
oh yeah, ten years. Yeah,

1055
01:12:44,119 --> 01:12:48,399
you're right. Ten Yeah, that's
the insane a sound thing is like wildly

1056
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:53,079
impressive. You know that game where
if he changed one letter of a movie

1057
01:12:53,079 --> 01:12:59,399
and make it better? Shit or
island Stutter Islands about insane butts. Yeah,

1058
01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:04,119
dad, you've always had a donc
Leo stutter Island would be funny,

1059
01:13:06,079 --> 01:13:14,119
baby, I just go shutter inland. Nothing changes, It's just not an

1060
01:13:14,119 --> 01:13:17,800
island. It's on the coast.
Yeah, it's the coast looking at Bay.

1061
01:13:19,079 --> 01:13:23,800
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1062
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,960
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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,319
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1064
01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:36,239
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1065
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,560
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1066
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:45,399
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1067
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,600
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1068
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:53,600
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1069
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,199
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1070
01:13:56,279 --> 01:14:00,880
afraid to effeminize it? Sister podcasts
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1071
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,479
Great little thing they got going on, and we might have something in the

1072
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:08,479
works that I've ran the idea by
for the two or all four of us.

1073
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,119
Oh yeah that's happening. Yeah,
well it'll be easier to achieve than

1074
01:14:12,199 --> 01:14:15,439
the cartoon. Yeah, I think
so. The cartoon might be tabled for

1075
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,119
a little bit. That's just a
hard one to put together. We should

1076
01:14:18,119 --> 01:14:21,319
have actually in two weeks we should
have a special guest too. Not this

1077
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:25,199
coming episode after this one, but
the one after we will have a special

1078
01:14:25,239 --> 01:14:29,159
guest on the show as well.
My baby, We're just gonna lay him

1079
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,479
on the table. It's not your
baby, Yeah, what do you think?

1080
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:38,520
But what an idiot? Yeah,
let's just diss my baby not here

1081
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,439
yet, it's just an hour and
fifteen minutes of Dan ripping on your baby.

1082
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,279
Dude, it just any like you
can't walk, you can't talk.

1083
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:50,399
Yeah, you cheat yourself, looks
like shit, you're bald. Hey what

1084
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,840
have you won ever? Zero times? D I'm gonna hold that over him

1085
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,800
for don't have a job, don't
have a job, don't pay taxes.

1086
01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:01,680
Well, my baby will be employed
from the get go because he'll be sucking

1087
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:08,880
on the government teat government is what
I call my wife's teats. Did they

1088
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:15,680
oppress you? Yeah? Anyway,
we'll be back next week. Um,

1089
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:19,159
it's Jake's topic, right or no, Jake's in two weeks, I'm doing

1090
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:21,800
I'm doing two weeks in a row. Oh wow, because Jake fucked all

1091
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,199
the shit up. Yeah you really
my special guests? No, no,

1092
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,199
you in the week Oh I did
miss one. I thought I had COVID

1093
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:34,039
but I didn't. If you,
if you would have seen me that day,

1094
01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:35,920
you would have been like, please
don't Actually you guys would have been

1095
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,840
fine. I'm I got double anybodies, I'm okay? Do we do we

1096
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,239
just tell who the guest is in
two weeks or like what he does.

1097
01:15:43,359 --> 01:15:46,479
Let's let's let's just it'll be nice, suppress. It's going to be very

1098
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,960
related to the weekend that is going
on Labor Day weekend. It's to start

1099
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,119
a college football it's going to be
kind of a college football topic. So

1100
01:15:55,279 --> 01:15:59,760
we will have think about that theme
for the special guest. Yes till then,

1101
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:02,880
well until next week, which is
just a regular software history though Jake's

1102
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:08,119
topic. Yeah, Jake's going back
to back, back to back for Rob

1103
01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:11,840
Fox Jake Goldman, Hum dam Rochester
and you just got self served.