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Hello, ladies and gentleman. Uh, welcome back to the Boys review the

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first episode of season four The Boys. I guess which, as the clown

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Prits podcast, couldn't think of a
name today. You know, I had

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so much time to think of a
name, but I couldn't think of one.

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Lots of good stuff from these episodes, but I am joined by I

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am the Truth Gone, Taylor Field, good old truth gone. There you

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go. Don't see I don't see
a thumbnail in there, Taylor, It's

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coming. It seems I got a
few more SIPs of Zoe. Zoe doesn't

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make it thumbnail skill or anything like
that. It does it does boost brain

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capacity. There you go. It's
been a while since I had ahead of

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Zoe, so I guess I'll have
to crack and open this weekend. But

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uh uh yeah, we're here if
I guess, like, if you want

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to go back, you can.
But like we have reviewed all the Boys,

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we will probably just talk about our
thoughts on the Boys and episodes characters

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throughout this and refer back to our
previous thoughts. But uh yeah, if

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you so inclined, they're all there. Maybe we should have on a preview

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special or whatnot. But yeah,
we will be reviewing every single week of

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The Boys. We should usually be
having it third like out for the Fridays.

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There's a couple of times where maybe
there's some movie releases where maybe one

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gets bumped or you know, we'll
figure that out, but we'll announce ahead

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of time. But for the foreseeable
future, well even let's see, Yeah,

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for single future, we should have
The Boy. I guess the next

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one will be the Quiet Place,
that'll be the We'll see, and sometimes

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we'll try to have them all together. But the plan is we're gonna be

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reviewing each inside, every single one
of the episodes. So Taylor, I'm

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using the are you live? There? Are you frozen? Oh, Tay's

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frozen the video he's looking sounds like
he looks like he's looking intently before I

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throw it him. Everything you know
is down below the links, the audio,

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the discord joined there. There's tons
of fun stuff with just like lots

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of announcements. With the Acolyte discords
popping off, The Boys, one's gonna

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start popping off. These are the
fun times when you get shows that multiple

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people are watching. So it's us
other GV hosts, other GV listeners.

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It's always a fun place. And
then Patreon. That is the best way

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to support because the episodes ad free, early and exclusive. There's about two

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exclusive shows there. There's lots of
well, there will be some polls coming

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up. There's lots of things.
You guys will be helping us with Geek

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First Day, which is happening August
third. That is going to be our

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nine hour stream that is to celebrate
the Geek First Anniversary. We've announced a

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bunch of things you can look a
littill be probably a master post soon,

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but we're doing Geek Versus, where
we take twenty fictional characters and do like

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a Deadliest Warrior. We're gonna be
doing a team trivia with myself and Dylan

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facing off with some patrons. We're
gonna be having a wrestling match. We'll

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you know, we've talked about the
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then we will be doing the twenty
twenty twelve Golden Geeks, which is our

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version of the Oscars. As I
just talked about with Patreon, you can

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do lots of things. You are
the ones that voted for us to do

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that year. So we'll be doing
Best Actor to actors, all the good

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jazz and what we do is that
is a day that you can come enjoy.

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It's gonna be live. If you
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on the podcast. But if anybody
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the best time because if you join
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to extend the stream by you know, every this is ten minutes, fifteen,

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twenty, a half an hour,
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out the increments. But yeah,
that's the best way to support us is

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Patreon and Geekristy if you want to. So we very much appreciate that,

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So check it out. I'll be
here on the feeds here. So uh

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to you feel that I did throw
to you, but you disappeared there for

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a little bit. So so kicking
in Yeah, ill this router, you

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tell me to get it. But
so far, two days in Row,

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I'm seeing some some issues happening.
You know, you're you're you're looking like

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my WiFi back in the day at
leith Ed you know, and you know

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it's funny because I'm paid for it's
supposed to be stronger wi fi. You

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know what these the whole rogers I
shouldn't trust Rogers. Rogers is garbage.

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Should have went with tell Us.
That's what I told you guys before.

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When I had my person, I
got the highest WiFi. That's not it,

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and you're more than me. You
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now. Well, I'm sort of
thing maybe it's computer. The tech did

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say that tell Us is optimal for
podcasts because tell Us is designed to match

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the output as it's going inputting,
and that's what you're doing a podcast,

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you're outputting. So in two years
my contract ends, that's where I'm gonna

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go. Maybe, but they just
suck a whole bunch of different ways.

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But yeah, as you can see, I'm still playing around it. I'm

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not using the my camera because I
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it out. I thought I figured
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was fine for a while, and
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don't know, So who knows.
I might be rocking just the Matt camera

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from now on because I cannot live
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live in the world with more boys. So what we're gonna do is,

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well, I guess the show someone's
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like some right wing talks of men
like I can live in the world more

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boys, not too many women in
this world. I need some more boys.

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But no, we're gonna give our
non sport thoughts on all three episodes

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as a collective, and then we'll
let you know. We'll take a little

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ad break, and then we'll get
into spoilers. So if you've only seen

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a couple or you are behind,
we will talk for about fifteen twenty minutes

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of just our overall thoughts of the
first three episodes. So, yeah,

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Taylor, take away, what did
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last year we left on a couple
of cliffhangers, found out Butcher was

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gonna be dying. Found out well, Homelanderer killed the innocent man. I'm

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trying to think what other cliffhangers was
awesomely and was sticking with them, Ryan

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was sticking with them, the soldier
boy bag Ice. We had lost Black

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Noir, so that was also a
question. May have had outed Homelander and

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all these videos and stuff. And
luckily, if you have any questions,

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I did rewatch every single season episode
of the Boys leading up to this because

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I wanted to and which is it
helps because there are some things I have

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questions about. But what are your
feelings so far about on the first three

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episodes of season four. Yeah,
I'm I'm just I'm I'm super super happy

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with them. I think they're great. Well, I wouldn't put them as

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the best episodes of the Boys of
all time, like all timelike openers.

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For those first three, I'm definitely
really enjoying them, and it's a strong

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start. I think that there were
so many things going on. That's again,

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it's just picking up because I didn't
watch the previous seasons like you like

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you have. You've just you've committed
to that, which is a good refresher.

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But I'm trying to pick up and
connect with these storylines again and these

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characters and just kind of figure out, okay, where things are. I

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should have done maybe a bit more
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season five when it ends, I'll
do it. I'll probably do it for

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season five. Yeah that's ending.
But uh yeah, there's there's so many

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things that are going on, and
I just think, man, it fools

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me, It really really does,
because I think, holy shit, the

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one particular thing and that we were
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I thought it was gonna be actually
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lot of cool twists and stuff that's
going on here, and just man,

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Homelander being Homeland at Lander is just
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he's he's just so crazy and quirky, and these characters really just being uh

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yes, that's a djvoo there in
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are just hitting a point right now
where obviously now we know that season five

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is gonna be that last season,
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and seeing certain characters interact with their
characters, I just feel like it's getting

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really really juicy, and it's it's
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course they're introducing a whole bunch of
new characters, which I really appreciate.

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I love that this show can do
that consistently. While you love your og

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cast, they're producing all these new
individuals that are just so either they're there

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as canon fodder or they're gonna actually
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story. But yeah, so far, I think I think these episodes have

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been have been pretty pretty awesome.
Yeah, yeah, I know. I

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was happy with them because I did
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of on par. It's tough with
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as they were plot driven, but
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of things. But I don't have
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them, and even season one that
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bit different, but watched them back. Yeah, I think because there's one

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situation in general that I do get, which rut they're going, but it's

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it's tough because I feel like it's
a it's a little I feel like last

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season kind of was a setup.
It kind of gave us false expectations of

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this sea. This season, at
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certain things, but I do get
that there. I think they're doing it

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to mirror a lot of stuff in
the Weird the real world, which was

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good for Eric Crypti to kind of
say like, hey, if you don't

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like the real politics, you should
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The boys have always had politics,
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I think last year they were really
starting to like lean it like whatever

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you care about your sides, the
fucking Homeland or merchant. Sure, it's

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looked exactly like the mega John Donald
Trump things. Right, So it's like

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anybody that can't see, hey,
they're trying to, whether you agree with

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or not, draw some sort of
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I think he was smart to say
he if you didn't like that, tune

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out, because it is. This
is really driven, especially i'd say and

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episode one, episode two, very
And the scary thing is it's it reminds

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me like when I watch Oppenheim,
or not exactly because no one's not making

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the boys, but it just reminds
me in a way of like, man,

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sometimes it is like it's like the
Civil War movie. It's like too

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close to home. Sometimes I'm fine
with that in my content. I'm fine

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to watch it. I think the
show makes it work because they already had

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political things in the show, so
they're just amping it up. But there's

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many situations where it's not just satire. It's just like, man, this

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could happen or a version of it
already has happened, and it sucks,

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but hopefully sometimes it will shine a
light on you know, what should we

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do and what should we not do? So I've liked all that stuff.

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Performances all around, I think are
great as usual. You know, Carl

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Urbans, Gray's butcher Anthony Star is
just amazing. As Homelander, we'll get

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about get more to it in spoilers, but I think this is like,

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it's still Homelander, but it's a
very i won't say very different, but

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he's going through a different crisis than
he has before. And I'll say it's

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a side we haven't seen of him. And even the way they're shooting him,

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it's lots of close ups and moments
with no music and no audio,

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like he is a let's just say
he's going through a crisis, which I

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don't think they really showed in The
Trader. There's just gonna show like Homeland

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wreck and havoc, but he is
going through maybe his version of a midlife

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crisis. That's not what you want
the Homelander. There's a couple of stories

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I guess said that I thought were
dropped too easily, or stories I just

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feel that I'm not that invest it
in. But I think that kind of

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always happens with the boys for other
people, right because For me, I

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go like, man, I still
like I like seeing the shenanigans that the

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Deep gets into. But then I'll
see other people be like, that's my

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least favorite part of the show.
I hate it, And I not that

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I hate certain aspects of the show. Again, it's boys, but there's

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definitely like I don't think it's like
when now I'm rewatching House of Drake and

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always you could rank them, but
it's like there's certain stories where it's like

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there's five stories going on and most
these are pretty on par for me,

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where this there's definitely like a storyline
that kind of similar to the other seasons.

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I don't check out, but I
don't care about as much and I'm

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not really enjoying the route they're going. So it's just a couple of characters

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where I thought, oh, who
knows what they're gonna do here? But

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yeah, overall, you get what
you want with the boys. There's some

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action in there, there's some political
stuff, there's some satire, there's some

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gross out moments, there's some ragious
sexual stuff. Like you've seen episode three.

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All I gotta say is the sauna
and you know what I'm talking about,

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you know, like they thank they
yeah, they they they still go

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for it. So yeah, overall, really enjoying it. I'm excited.

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We talked about on the newscast,
So just to reiterate, I think it's

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great that it's ending at season five, just because I feel, as we

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said before, some of these things
just kind of have to come to a

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head. Even this year, when
they introduce new soups, it almost feels

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very similar to like what season two
we had storm Front, and then season

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three we had Soldier Boy, and
then season four here they like introduced some

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other new villains and I don't want
and that's why luckily with five it's ending.

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But that was my worry if I
didn't know it was ending with five.

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It feels like again of oh,
we can't take Homelander down because there's

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these other villains we gotta take down
first, and then we'll get to Homelanders.

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So it feels like it's kind of
falling in a formula. But like

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I said, because it's ending in
five, that formula I think is going

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to an end. And there's certain
new character in particular that I'm very curious

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about what their motivations are, and
that's a good thing with the boys,

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it keeps up with that gray area. It's like I said, that's a

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comparable House of Dragon, where you
know, there's good guys doing bad things,

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there's bad guys doing good things,
and you gotta find some some personal

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latch onto as far as like who
could be your hero and stuff. So

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anything else Dawn Spoor is mister Field. Not really, but there's you made

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some great points about just how they
tackle certain things, and I think that

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there are some themes in particularly the
second episode that I mean, I I

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know I know some people that will
they are never gonna watch this, but

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I know some people that probably are
very similar in certain aspects and it's uncomfortable.

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You should see off cast. He's
an animal, Yeah he's brutal,

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but yeah, it's just it's it's
funny how this this show really can just

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smack the nail up right on the
head with being just bought on, with

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how they're they're just addressing things and
how they they treat it very comedic,

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and I think that's a bright way
of making it more entertaining. But it's

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just funny how, especially in each
season, they managed just to tackle these

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different things that are kind of like
in the present time, and episode two

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really was just hammering it out.
They were going like boom boom, boom,

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boom boom, hitting all these things
that have just i'd say, plague

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society for the past four years.
So I think that it's I don't know

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if that I mean that stuff is
not in the comics. I think the

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comics does its own kind of take
where they're kind of handling that society and

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the comics, but this show does
so well because it's handling and just it's

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to me, it's like south Park. South Park just takes the problems of

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society and just think make it a
laughing joke. And so I think the

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show The Boys is doing a great
job and just kind of taking these themes

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in society right now and not trying
to make it all just a laughable joke.

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But at least they're creating awareness for
it that the people that you seek

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portrayed in this show. There's a
lot of people that are absolutely like this,

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and all to varying degree. Is
an extense, of course, but

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I think that's probably the scariest thing. But it's nice to actually have that

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revelation. So yeah, well we're
gonna get into it. Now, So

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if you've not seen the episodes,
bow out and we will take a little

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break here and then we'll get some
much spoilers. We'll wear right back and

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we're back. So it might not
be the person you think I want to

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start with. And I feel like
when we're talking about the episodes and like

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three and stuff, that it's best
that what we're gonna cover them all won't

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go in order, maybe talk about
it by character by character. I want

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to get your opinion on Sage,
right, that's her name, Sage.

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You know it's sister Sage. But
she's like, I don't want they had

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to add that on me because like, I'm a black woman, and I

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love when he's like, oh why
when you join the seventy they can get

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some racist ass costume. Like,
so she's a very interesting character. So

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what they establish is, Okay,
we need new members of the seven off

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the Starlight's gone. We lost I
guess, oh right, we lost Mave.

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We'll get to Black Noir, but
he's back technically, but we why

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am I thinking? Because they needed
three members? Who else am I missing?

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They lost Mave because she like in
the world died question mark or like

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quotation, but she like just ran
off and then they lost who did I

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just say? They temporarily had that
guy who won the competition, right,

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Starlight's friend, and that was they
gave that spot to The Deep. Remember

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that video that like when he comes
out, I guess is it that they

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never replaced Stormfront? Is that what
it is? Maybe? I think so?

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So a storm Front Mave and god, what's her name? Annie?

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What's her character name? Starlight?
So that's why so they of course they

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talk about, oh, well,
you know, I'm saving one seat for

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my son Ryan. But there's still
these other two spots. So they're going

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through all these heroes, which that's
always fun. When they get this one

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and I was like, oh,
this guy he ate a dog. I

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was like, oh no, we
actually had a dog. Outs there's a

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quite a bit of difference. Of
course, Deep's defending this guy fucking animals

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and everything like that. So as
usual, great, just one liners in

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the boys, like before I forget
it. There's one moment with the Deep

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when he's on a talk show and
they're talking about him like having sexual relations

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with the octopus, and he just
is sitting cross like like a fucking like

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kid, and he's supposed to be
giving this a serious interview about his divorce

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and everything. Like again it's just
like such an outrageous character. But they're

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talking about, Okay, we need
to replace two members and we'll get to

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Firecracker in a second, because I
feel like like that that we know what

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tropes they're hitting there, and that
was like obviously, hey, which route

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this is gonna go? Sage is
what's interesting me because they set her up

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by she's the smartest person in the
world. So she's kind of like a

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I don't know, Franklin Richards,
Tony Stark. She's just very smart.

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She can not only BookSmart, but
just read the situation. She looks at

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people up and down, so it's
like her brain is so it's almost like

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a, oh god, what's that
movie Bradley Cooper he pops the pill and

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they made a TV show? Yeah, limit to this. It just feels

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like that's her powers, right,
It's just her her brain can just pick

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up stuff more than other people.
So at first, you know they shoot

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her down because they train her in
some history. And then when Homelander goes

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to recruit her because he's just in
like a run and we'll we's gonna talk

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about Homeland in a second, but
I want to talk about Stage. She

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comes off as like somebody that wouldn't
be with Homelander per se. She even

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says she doesn't want to be part
of the Seven. She just kind of

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like even insults him a few times, and not insults them in a way

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of being mean, just the way
that she's saying truthful things. And we

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know Homelander has an issue with the
truth sometimes, but she eventually accepts to

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do that because you know, he
makes his pitch of it. You could

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make a difference and actually, you
know, get out of this small house,

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right kind of the whole fame and
riches eventually gets her. But my

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question is, so she is there
to work with Homelander, and they want

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to make him the equivalent of Caesar. That's what they talked about, right,

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So, because he's just like people
hate me, they love me.

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I kill people by safety, but
I can't win them. They want to

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give him a Caesar like complex.
So she's laying out all these things throughout

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these episodes what they're gonna do,
and that's where it's just like when we

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met her, she didn't come off
as a villainous or someone that was down

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for killing Inness, but that what
does happen. But then as the episodes

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go along, I just feel like
with Homelander, I feel like when it's

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actually by herself, not with the
Soups, I feel like when it's the

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Deep, she's like continually even a
trade of it, she's continually like trying

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to be everyone's friend, and not
in a way where it's like pathetic,

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in a way where I don't know, does she just like these people or

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what I think is like she has
some sort of long con right, And

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I don't think it's like at first
I said, oh, she's secretly working

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with the boys and Annie, but
she's still getting innocent people killed. So

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I don't know. Is it even
simply like she just wants to lead the

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Seven? I don't know. And
I'm very curious about this character. She's

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sleeping with the Deep now, which
I did not see coming at all,

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since I just feel like she's at
fought and she's getting into many different piles

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and even Deep it's like, oh, before when you started, I thought

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you were bitch, but you're one
of the most awesome people I've ever met.

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And even Homelander like, of course
when he's like, oh, yeah,

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we're not gonna have any problems.
He's already having problems with her.

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But what do you think, Like, what is your take on the Sage

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character right now? And because I'm
not confused, I'm curious in a good

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way and not sure where it's going
because I feel it's they've given her kind

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of you know, shades of good, shades of bad, shades in the

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middle, and then a bunch of
other stuff. So what do you think

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about Savee so far? Yeah,
I'm I'm curious, and I feel like,

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if you are the smart person on
the planet, you're gonna have your

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own self interests lay at the forefront. And while yes, she knows that

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if she messes up or does something
against Homelander, Homelander can kill her,

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she doesn't have any physical strengths or
anything beyond that, aside from she's just

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the smartest person on the planet.
So, like I said, I feel

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like in that sense, you're gonna
look at your own self gains and your

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own self interest first, and that's
gonna be at the forefront. So while

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she's definitely helping Homelander, I think
it's interesting that you have this dynamic or

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Homeland her is she's calling him petty
for it, but I think he's doing

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it as a way to keep her
in check by putting her in the seven,

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putting her at in a way in
an area spotlight that he can kind

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of keep tabs on her. And
I think he realizes that she is dangerous

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having her around. But I like
that she is blunt and upfront with him,

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And so while she's doing that,
Yeah, you're right, she is

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friendly with everyone else and she's doing
other things with other people. So it's

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it's interesting and like she she is
trying to do a coop, but like,

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what's really going on here, Like
it doesn't seem like it's really benefiting

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Homelander necessarily. Well, I mean
maybe not yet. Yeah, I guess

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I was trying to think. I
guess the I think in episode two because

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she did do that whole she pulled
out that whole Starlighter fake fight thing,

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right, because what they do is
they say Homelanders innocent. She goes to

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this rally because it's very much like
a real life thing. There's the God,

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there's the star Lighters, and then
what do they call the Homelander people.

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I can't remember. There's a group, but they have like a group

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name for like his fans. So
if they're both barricaded Homelander fans on one

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side, Starlight fan or i'd say
supporters one side and Sage goes their dress

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as a Starlight you know, supporter
has a coffee and throws it at someone

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says, oh you fascist, prick, and like it's insights a fight,

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right, And that's as of right
now, the Starlighters anning. That's not

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what they were wanting. They weren't
wanting to be physical. They were wanting

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to just use a message, use
their words. So that's something where she

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kind of made it look like the
Starlight people. Like she added to that

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where oh, you know, should
we believe Annie because they could be worse

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than Homelander, like that guy that
showed up to the building, right like

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where as those kids in the basement
where the kids we don't have a base.

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Yeah, And again the funny thing
is they did it in like a

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comedic way, but it is like
that shit unfortunately happens like all the time.

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Like I'm not even trying to make
this political, but like some guy

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was arrested today he was going to
a Bad Bunny concert, he had a

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bunch of weapons and his goal was
he was gonna go shoot it up to

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start a race war he said,
and this just happened today. Answer,

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it's like, that's what that accomplish
is there. So I feel like she's

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taken some heat off him at least. So I feel like it started rocky

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in episode one, and it was
going good in episode two, and the

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episode three, it's back to rocky
because like Coland just doesn't like a person

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that's gonna question him. But he
said, oh no, that's what I

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want, Like I can I can
handle the true if we all know,

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if that can't be Homeland or like
he can't handle the truth, like it's

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that's one of his worst qualities.
So I don't think it's gonna get to

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a point where he's gonna want to
take her out per se with these some

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of these actions, because I think
he does know she's smart and he could

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use her. So I think she
has benefit of them that way. But

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again he's already getting kind of a
little upset about it. So I really

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don't know what rout they're gonna go
then, And that's what's interesting because she's

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like a wild card. But again, like I was saying the trope of

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the show, the boys were like, oh, who's Sage And they were

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all her round. So they're doing
that thing again of like Soldier Boy in

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Stormfront, where her and Firecracker were
becoming like the more immediate threats. Even

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though Firecracker no power, she can
like she does. She can snap her

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finger and make like a little sparks. They did do the class ship and

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I got super STRINGD So it's like, Okay, that makes sense, but

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what are your where are your thought
some Firecrackers? So far, she's she's

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spicy. She's a character, that's
for sure. Yeah, But I guess

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it makes sense that she was brought
in because she's got the following and she

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has the savvy on fifty two white
male, Yeah, she's got she's got

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the knowledge and the insight on I
think pushing this fight a little bit further.

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Yeah, and she's already completely opposed
to Starlight right like we learned why

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later. But even before she's in
the seven, she's all in the like

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f Starlight bandwagon. So yeah,
exactly, So I think the motivations are

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there, and I think that's that's
obviously what Sage wants is to have someone

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here is very loyal to Homelander and
wants to make sure Homelander succeeds and put

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Starlight down. And I say that
because she knows that there's a leak.

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She knows that something's compromised, so
she's trying to help flush that out.

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And so you need reliable allies on
your side while you're trying to figure out

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who the mole is and whatnot,
which Homelander did not deal with that well

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because that that girl's like, oh, Starlight she called me earlier today and

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just fucking beams and say it just
like doesn't matter, like you're gonna be

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okay, right, And Homelanders like, oh, yeah, she's gonna be

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00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:33,799
okay. And then yeah, like
oh we found them and just killed her.

403
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,119
And then Ashley, who again I
don't much say about her, but

404
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:41,519
we talked about her last season as
every watch she's one of my favorite just

405
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,400
like minor characters in this show,
that actress always delivers. She's fucking on

406
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:49,079
point everything, Like I legitimately hope
after the Boys we see her in like

407
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000
a lot of comedy movies, Like
I know they're not making them anymore,

408
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,079
but I wish she was around when
they were doing like the Appatoo Rogan Crew

409
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,319
movies, Like I feel like she
just would have fiten perfect because just even

410
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,640
later when she's having that sex scene
with the guy and she's just like,

411
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,039
you want me step on your balls
now, just like the shot of the

412
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,200
heels. Yeah, it's it's her
delivery. She she never feels like a

413
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,920
characature. It feels like this is
a real person and poor girl, she

414
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,480
was gonna try and go to Disney, and then after that she tore up

415
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,160
a resume because she just realized that
she tries to leave, they're gonna kill

416
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,960
her. And that's where I don't
know if you remember this, she helped

417
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:26,079
cover up May escaping last season.
So I think her and we'll get to

418
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,000
a train. This is more signs
that Okay, she can't get out.

419
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,359
What's gonna be the way to get
it, like out of the situation is

420
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,240
to end it right with Homeland or
the Boys or with the Seven and stuff,

421
00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:38,119
like, she can't leave, so
she's gonna have to. I think

422
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,599
she's gonna be another turncoat, and
man, I think that's I think if

423
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:49,559
they ever get to the situation with
like MM trying to really like use her

424
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:55,759
services and recoup her and if she
would ever be like the boys layer or

425
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,599
be around Butcher, Like, I
just think that's calm any gold if we

426
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,240
can get at Ashley with the boys
for not like to be the part of

427
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,440
the boys, but just like if
she's a mole, I think there is

428
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,960
so much good stuff there. So
I hope that happens and she continues to

429
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:15,599
deliver. But yeah, Firecracker is
like red Eye thumbnail girl, Like that's

430
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,480
what this person is. It is
the person that is like super anti woke,

431
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:22,640
super this Like she has this like
plaque that says Jesus, guns and

432
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:26,359
babies. Like she's literally like if
you think the worst type of right wing

433
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,079
person, that's very over the top. That's what Firecracker is. I still

434
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,480
got the sense though that I don't
know if that's truly her, because she

435
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:37,519
does give that speech about like I'm
not trying to offend her, but she

436
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,799
does get that speech about like why
be almost a good person and be for

437
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,359
good when you could, you know, have some big beliefs and be remembered.

438
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,039
So I'm not saying she's not racist
or not transphobe girl. That stuff.

439
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:52,359
I believe this character probably could be, but it feels like she's definitely

440
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,440
playing it up. And I think
that's also shot at. Like we just

441
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,759
talked about our Stars review, we
know there's so many people that I'm sure

442
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:03,400
there's some YouTubers, some critics,
some fans out there that are maybe legitimly

443
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,000
mad, but then we know people
that are just they're just doing it because

444
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,200
they get clicks and money, right, they make the same Like there's one

445
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:12,200
podcaster that had like the same thumbnail
three videos in the row, but they're

446
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000
all like two hundred k because it's
just them going oh my god, and

447
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,039
it's showing a picture of the acolyte
and it's just like okay, and it

448
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,720
just complained about the same thing over
and over. So I think that's what

449
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:25,160
this was hitting on, is they
might have these views, but they are

450
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,599
on purpose turning it up to one
hundred just to get monetization off of it.

451
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960
And that's what she's doing by getting
in the seven, right, because

452
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,200
she's not really like if you look
at the powers, like, out of

453
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,599
all the people we've had on seven, I fink she's like the weakest one

454
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,599
we've ever had, Like she's just
a super strength really, right, like

455
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,759
yeah, even no r we never
got in his powers, but he had

456
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,880
his skills, like and he's upgrading
every episode we had the I forget what

457
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,160
the oh elusive who was e turn
Invisible? Maybe was wonder Woman Homelander was

458
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:59,319
you know, uh, Superman,
you have a trains that's flash deep,

459
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,160
so Offen Batman, Yeah exactly.
So it's like with Firecracker, like she's

460
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,440
a pretty low tier, but she's
just someone like like that's you know,

461
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,480
like you said the Homelander. My
question is, do you think they're going

462
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:15,680
to put her in Homelander together?
Because I think she was trying to get

463
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:22,599
some of this episode. He's emotionally
compromised a little bit here. Ryan's going

464
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000
for Butcher and Homelanders just all sad
now. So I think you could see

465
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,279
it like he's gonna show up atter
Room when they're gonna have a crazy Fox

466
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,480
sash or something like that, seeing
me firecracking on the balls or something like

467
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,759
that. You know she's gonna use
that. I think what's gonna happen.

468
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,240
I'm not saying they're gonna do a
Joker Harley Quinn thing, but I think

469
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:45,359
they're gonna hook up and Homelander's not
gonna fall in love like he did with

470
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,519
Storm Front or I can't remember the
I'm forgetting name, but the lady from

471
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:52,000
the first season that was like his
handler and he drank the milk from.

472
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,279
Like. I don't think he's gonna
fall in love. I think he's just

473
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:57,400
gonna like have sex with her sometimes
because he's stressed, and this girl's gonna

474
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720
take it as more and be very
annoying to him. And that's how I

475
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,720
think it's gonna go. I think
it's gonna happen at some point. Uh

476
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,559
super Mike. Ohh. I was
just say on the note of these people

477
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,680
hooking up, so with Sage and
the Deep hooking up, Now, what

478
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:17,720
was that panshot to that little bloody
instrument? I didn't know, and that's

479
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,000
why I was gonna ask you.
I wasn't sure if I was missing something.

480
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:22,839
If anyone in the chat knows what
that was, it was like,

481
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,240
yeah, it was like a rod
and it was covered in blood, and

482
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,720
I thought we're gonna get that revealed
later. I'm not sure if there's something

483
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,599
in the episode that I missed,
but that's where I was like, again,

484
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,960
Okay, she's up to something.
So if anyone in the chat knows,

485
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000
please let us know. Because I
didn't know what the rod was,

486
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:45,160
but oh oh, I think I
found it here interesting, great if you

487
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,400
shared it, motherfucker. You know, I'm like, can't you know?

488
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,079
I'll read super Mike's question while Taylor
stream, I just took it as her

489
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:55,200
wanting to play around from see what
happens like a science a scientist running a

490
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,359
human experiment, which I guess that
could work out. And again she's still

491
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,880
in the villainousych is. Part of
her experiment is killing people, so she's

492
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,319
somebody has to be taken down.
But uh, yeah, I could see

493
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,720
that. I think her hooking up
with the Deep makes things a little more

494
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,799
less about the experiment, unless she
is just trying to turn the Deep fully.

495
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,839
But I think we will get to
them. I think we've finally he's

496
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,880
not having a good guy turn.
But what was this rod? Apparently it's

497
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:26,079
a metal rod that temporary, temporarily
deactivated her powers. Why would you want

498
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,119
to do that just so she couldn't
think for a little bit, I guess,

499
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:30,880
I guess so. But it makes
sense because she's eating the junk food

500
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,519
and she's watching garbage TV. Right, and it's completely different from what she

501
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,200
was doing before where she's always reading
books And so did you get that from

502
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,920
the comics or like somebody tough Collider? Okay, I get there, you

503
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,359
know, I guess so Lena Moore, And that's fine. I get that,

504
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,359
Like, you know, Daredevil likes
to you know, take a bathroom

505
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,279
water to take out some hearing and
stuff like that. So that's fine.

506
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:57,599
I thought it was a bit more
well, I'm guessing though, I was

507
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,279
gonna say I I thought it was
gonna be more vital. But I'm guessing

508
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:04,319
what's maybe gonna happen is at some
point those cares, somebody might use that

509
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:10,599
rod to like weaken her defenses maybe, or they'll just know that, hey,

510
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,799
when she uses that, she doesn't
have she doesn't have the smart so

511
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,160
we could like Outsmarter out Witter.
So I feel like that rod has to

512
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,519
come into play, right because they
focused on it. Yeah, so someone's

513
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,839
using that, so yeah, we'll
see. So uh yeah, let's uh

514
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:29,119
we're talking about the partner. Let's
talk about Homelander. So Homelander, he

515
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,720
was on trial episode two, he
was episode two or three. He was

516
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:38,880
not guilty. He does I think
love Ryan to an extent, but the

517
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,039
problem is he doesn't love Ryan more
than himself, and that's what we see

518
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,000
here where it starts off. Then, honestly, he's bad father in the

519
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,640
sense that he's still not the most
caring, but he's doing the best he

520
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,680
can. It still feels like he
is supporting his kid one hundred percent.

521
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,359
But now it's almost like he's smelling
the blood in the water and sees that

522
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,400
the same way Soldier Boy got replaced
by Homelander. Like they're almost trying to

523
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,079
set up Ryan to replace him.
They don't want Homeland to be around him.

524
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,160
They don't want to be there for
a save. They're giving all this

525
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:09,039
information. And the other thing that
they started to play off on season three

526
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:14,319
was that there is still part of
him that's human. He's finding gray hairs,

527
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,640
he's like they even mentioned that they
needed to like photoshop some of his

528
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:22,200
like neck chub out or like his
bowtox and stuff like just like he was.

529
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,680
He's looking older, right, so
like he is having a midlife crisis

530
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:29,960
in all the ways where he's getting
older, he's not as strong. He's

531
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,720
like he's seeing the younger generation move
up. People don't love him as much

532
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,559
anymore because it's divided, and at
first he thought that was good. So

533
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,200
I'm really enjoying this. Anthony Star
is doing some great work. I'm loving

534
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,880
this really because Homelander always has like
an inner crisis, but this feels like

535
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,680
very different, and especially with season
five, this does feel like it almost

536
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:51,759
end of the role row type of
crisis. My only thing that I was

537
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,720
disappointed by, and I think it
can kind of go with Ryan, was

538
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:59,079
the way the season ended in three
was he lasered that guy, and I

539
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:00,640
felt like it was gonna be a
thing. And I get what they're trying

540
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,000
to do is evil bad guy in
corporation can just make him innocent, but

541
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,960
I thought it was gonna be a
bigger deal, and just by episode two

542
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,440
it's just kind of wrapped up like
he was innocent. That's it. And

543
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:15,240
also it was strange that in season
two season three things have changed as the

544
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,400
time jump because Ryan the actor fucking
he grew like his voice is deeper.

545
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,480
It's crazy. But when Homelander killed
that guy at the end of season three,

546
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:24,519
Ryan was smiling, like accepting that. But I feel like the second

547
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,680
we pick up in this season,
Ryan's like back to like, I don't

548
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,319
like this. I don't know if
you're doing the right thing. I fell

549
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:36,039
off. So I felt like the
season three finale kind of kind of was

550
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:39,559
a trick because it because it just
feels like Homelander's at SaaS Quo. It

551
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:43,759
feels like no different there where he
was last year. Of there's some people

552
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,839
that support him and some don't.
You know, it just feels like,

553
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,160
okay, got away from I would
have liked to seem a little bit more

554
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:51,880
so. I think a few of
those plot beats I wanted more a little

555
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,920
bit of writing. But as far
as the Homelander character himself, I think

556
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,240
is still phenomenal. I'm very curious
what they're trying to insinuate where he has

557
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,359
to go back to, like where
he was born slash created, because I

558
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,799
don't know how that would help him. We got a couple of flashes of

559
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,119
him in like a you know,
a vault and stuff, but I don't

560
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,559
know, I don't know what we
get out of that. And I'm not

561
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,440
saying it's a bad thing. So
what are your thoughts on Homelanders so far?

562
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:21,119
Yeah, he's he's getting older,
that's for sure. Yeah, he's

563
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,159
just he's looking at his pubes all
the time throughout these episodes. Pretty long,

564
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,760
pube there too. Whatever you want
downstairs. But if all those people

565
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,960
are like that, he's got to
fucking like jungle down their homelanding jungle.

566
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,039
We finally got to see him without
the uniform on, which was interesting.

567
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,039
He was in bed. Yeah,
we've only seen that once. Uh it

568
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,559
was it was no we okay,
so there's a cheat. We The only

569
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,360
time he saw it was in season
two one was when the guy that was

570
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,920
like the person that would change in
the Homelander would do that. But there

571
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:53,639
was one time in season two actually
came into his office and he was naked

572
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,400
because he got a heart on because
his uh, his points had went up.

573
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,000
People are liking more, but yeah, it's very rare. We don't

574
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,760
seeing the costume, and I think
that's almost on purpose, like they kind

575
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,239
of a Captain America under incognito suit
too. Right when he went to see

576
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,599
Sister Sage just yes, he was
Yeah, he had the classic hat and

577
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:12,800
everything, and even when he was
nude, he had like almost like homeland

578
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,360
or underwear, like it was like
it looked like made specifically for him.

579
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,559
When he had that fucking like chest
of like the milk bottle his pubes for

580
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,159
some reason, he had black nor
sword. He had a picture of storm

581
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,519
Front from when she was in the
Nazi like third Reich, Like, I

582
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,440
love that he has this like little
dexter kid of bad memories. You know,

583
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,800
it's fuck what a character, you
know, But yeah, he's I

584
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,840
think you said it spot on.
He loves Ryan, but he loves himself

585
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,559
more and he just gets getting pissed
off because Ryan's just doesn't like hurting people.

586
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:52,719
Is developing down a different path and
it's not the path that that Homelander

587
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,079
wants him to go down and set
up. And it's even more conflicted because

588
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:58,679
Ryan's like, oh, I don't
want Butcher to die, and oh I

589
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:05,039
didn't mean to kill that that person. Yeah, the guy just like you

590
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,880
pushed me a little and he was
going, which I was so glad because

591
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,960
when I saw him the promo Ryan
killing a person, I was like,

592
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:15,559
oh, like that feels really early, but I like now that he killed

593
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:20,119
them and felt regret immediately, where
Homelander feels no regret. Even at episode

594
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:23,400
one, he's training Ryan to talk
like humans are useless to toys. Yeah,

595
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,800
play, and Ryan repeats that.
So that's where again I still need

596
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,840
a little bit more, But I
did like that. Okay, Ryan,

597
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,119
like I said, he's not He's
not a cold person like his dad.

598
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:39,239
And I feel I kind of feel
like I know they're working on this virus,

599
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,039
which we'll get to because there's stuff
about the Homelander thing, but I

600
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,199
feel like a combo of the virus, but more so like Butcher and Ryan

601
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,480
gotta kill Homelander, right, I
feel like I feel like it might go

602
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:57,559
away where Butcher makes a sacrifice play. But I feel like they're gonna Ryan

603
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,159
has to do that. I don't
know, I just feel like that that's

604
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:01,840
what they're leading to. I think
so, I think so, I mean,

605
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,719
especially seeing how much older he is
now, I feel like, are

606
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,519
how how are they limited to this? Are we gonna have Butcher die because

607
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,800
he's got six months? So is
he gonna die? And then we're gonna

608
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,960
get like a time jump a little
further with Ryan being older and finish the

609
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:21,320
fight or right, he's gonna get
season five at least, So Ryan's gonna

610
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:27,639
kill or fight Homelander within the six
month period. Uh well, season five

611
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,159
could still be into that six month
period, right, because six month just

612
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:34,679
seems like a long time, not
a long enough time to train Ryan to

613
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,280
fight Homelander. Yeah, but it
might just be like a Homelander could be

614
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,079
weakened, or even then he just
could just be angry, right, Like

615
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:46,360
that's how he accidentally killed Stormfront is
he was so angry that he just laser

616
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,840
her and everything. So that's why
I could see like him killing Butcher,

617
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,079
like just anger him, and that
could be something where he just like turns

618
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:57,719
it on and maybe Homelander's weekend because
we can talk about that virus a little

619
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,800
bit where they said that the virus
from gen V which you know, if

620
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,840
you don't watch genv it's fine,
you don't have to be. That's where

621
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,239
they set up. They found a
virus to kill soups. But the thing

622
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440
is, it's of course not powerful
enough yet to take out Homelander. So

623
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:14,719
again they like we said, why
I'm happy five's ending. It's like another

624
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,159
Oh we found someone kill Homelander.
Oh no, actually it doesn't work.

625
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,719
So I'm happy again that we're in
season five. We're gonna find the thing

626
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,679
that kills Homelanders. So but I
did like Ryan saying that he doesn't want

627
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,559
Butcher to die, because I think
that's a great way to give Butcher plot

628
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:31,800
armor, because even last year it
was luckily they gave him soup powers.

629
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,280
But when I was rewatching four,
there's a few times where it's like,

630
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,000
I don't know why Homelander other than
being obsessed with having like a mortal enemy,

631
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,280
Like, there's no reason why he
couldn't have killed Butcher like a few

632
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,360
times this season. So I do
like that armor of oh, yeah,

633
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,920
don't kill him, because you know, let him die, but if you

634
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,159
kill it's almost like if he does
kill Butcher, he'll lose Ryan, right

635
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:57,400
because that's the last piece of his
mom So I thought that was very smarter

636
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,840
them. What was gonna say?
Superman says, how you guys feel that

637
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,159
they've been handling the gen v stuff
fire so far? I feel like it's

638
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,039
a looming, big plot point that
may not really be important to season five.

639
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:08,320
I think you could be right,
Mike, because, like we said,

640
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,920
with them saying it's not ready yet, but I think it's fine with

641
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,800
it being a looming plot point of
just they found a virus and they could

642
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,800
take them out because they just mentioned
it a few times. I think they

643
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,599
could have gave a little more backstory. But at the same time, I

644
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,599
think they're trying their best because they
make fun of Marvel, right. I

645
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:30,639
think they're trying their NDC and everybody
like just to connected to universes. I

646
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:32,360
think they don't want to make you
feel like you have to watch gen V,

647
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:36,239
So I think if they hit it
too hard, you do start to

648
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,199
lose those people like, oh,
like I gotta watch the fucking college show,

649
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840
Like I didn't really have any interest
in that. So I think they're

650
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,440
doing it just right. What about
right now? What about you Taylorfield?

651
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:49,760
No, I think they're doing it
in a pretty good, pretty good format,

652
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,440
And I'd be curious to see how
many people really latched onto that GENV

653
00:39:53,639 --> 00:40:00,440
show and to see how many people
are really uh, I guess are all

654
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,039
the fans of the boys where they
all going to gen V? I feel

655
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:06,079
like some people probably would skip at
all. I don't think so, I

656
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:07,800
don't. I'd like to see,
I guess what the percentage of it all

657
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,800
is, but definitely not because I
feel like there's tons of other shows that

658
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,159
have spinoffs where it's just I like
the main stuff, right. Yeah,

659
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,960
And while it definitely a lot of
spinoffs, they don't always have a lot

660
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,920
of like the main characters in there
from the main baseline show. Well,

661
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,079
I definitely appreciate that it wasn't those
characters dominating the spotlight in GENV. I

662
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,960
still appreciate that the additions and contributions
GENV played to the main story. But

663
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,840
I think it's great because in this
season you get maybe three mentions at the

664
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,119
most of what happened at the university
and just that's it. The only thing

665
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:45,119
you need to know on the takeaway
from that is, hey, there's this

666
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,599
virus while the kids are in Vought
somewhere I don't know where. Maybe they'll

667
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:53,239
pop up because there is GENV is
confirmed for a second season, isn't it.

668
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,280
Yeah, it's confirmed for a second
season. Then two characters are popping

669
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,559
up. I can't remember their names
right now. I know we talked about

670
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,000
them. What was the girl that's
like the Gene Gray type of character and

671
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:07,199
the guy that was like he was, you know, locked up in crazy

672
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,599
and saw the puppets and everything like
that. So I know there they make

673
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:15,440
an appearance. So yeah, anything
else on Ryan too, because we're talking

674
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,039
about them and he thoughts on Ryan
before we move all along from them.

675
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,840
Ah No, I don't think so, although I liked when he walked into

676
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,679
the kitchen and uh, Butcher was
there, and then you get that little

677
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,400
dynamic with Homelander and Butcher. Homelanders
just like, oh, yeah, what

678
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:36,199
six months, I'm gonna it felt
very much like a Batman Joker kind of

679
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,360
conversation because he's like, oh,
I'm gonna miss our miss us miss our

680
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,199
dance kind of thing. Yeah,
and he's like, oh, we're never

681
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,719
gonna have that big finale, and
I think they are going to get that

682
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,599
big finale. And if it's not
Ryan killing him, it's Butcher making the

683
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,400
sacrifice play and doing something that's going
to kill him, right, And yeah,

684
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,159
I liked Homelander being like this is
in the Neverland ranch, like the

685
00:41:54,239 --> 00:42:00,960
kids are safe here and no yeah
so yeahs so he's so good at that.

686
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:06,239
I love Homeleander, how just grows
an awkward he is when God,

687
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,239
she was in GENV and I always
forget her name. She's running for vice

688
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,159
president right now? What's her character's
name? Okay, I remember? You

689
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,639
mean when he's when he's like,
don't get pregnant, Yeah, don't come

690
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:20,000
back pregnant now, and it's just
like her nightmare of just like please leave

691
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:24,360
me alone. I will find out
where she because she was in Victoria Newman

692
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,440
right she's running for vice president,
which is like Sam and Kate, thank

693
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,880
you very much to bet Mike.
Those were the two gen V people,

694
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:37,079
but yeah Newman, she was also
in gen V. She was somebody that

695
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,280
I told you before, and I
was rewatching the first time the head popping

696
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,119
thing. A character gets her head
popped. The next scene was her on

697
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,480
the TV just like at this like
doing something, and it's just like so

698
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,639
like from day one, they literally
just showed you The next scene was Oh,

699
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:53,960
it's this person, but like it
was like a new character that point.

700
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,519
I really enjoy her. What did
hughe throw on her? Was it

701
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,000
like I I thought it was like
at first I thought it was a virus

702
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,480
and I was like fuck too,
and I was like, man, they're

703
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:07,400
just killing her off, like that's
a big play. But I don't think

704
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,719
it was. It did melt her
clothes though, so it wasn't just like

705
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,760
hot coffee or well that's the stuff
they put under her eye drops, right,

706
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,119
So I think they were trying to
like it was just acid. Okay,

707
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,719
so yeah, I guess so.
And that was interesting too where I

708
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,960
like her as well because both Hughey
presumably and then Butcher also just tried to

709
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:29,519
kill her in episode one, and
I like that she's still trying to take

710
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,480
the approach that she does not want
to be evil like Homelander. She wants

711
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:35,320
to do a truth truth. She
wants to find a way for everyone to

712
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,079
work together. But at the same
time, if it's gonna happen, she's

713
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:42,480
gonna want to She's gonna kill you, right like if some things don't go

714
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:44,400
her way. And yeah, Mike, you're saying asid as well. So

715
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:45,840
and that's why I thought when the
clothes started to burn, but I wasn't

716
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,719
sure if it was because, like
I said, when the first time,

717
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,039
I thought, oh, this is
a version of the virus. And they

718
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,480
just fucking killed Newman right here,
And that was really bold. So they

719
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:58,400
did the classic like, okay,
she's a semi Homelander two where she's like

720
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,239
invincible or impenetrable, so you know
that they made some for some comedic stuff.

721
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,599
I really like the actress that plays
Newman. I think she does a

722
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:08,320
really good job. And the more
and more I've seen her. I've just

723
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,360
like grown to like that character,
so I'm curious which road they're gonna go.

724
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,840
They were. The big thing was
one we could see her daughter sup

725
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,760
Power, which was just a fucking
weird, like creature mind we have vampires

726
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,760
blade too, yeah, exactly,
so we got to see that. So

727
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,199
her daughter is completely being trained in
the way of like it's funny. That's

728
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:30,559
what I love about the Newman character. I feel like she wants people to

729
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:35,039
think she's better than Homelander, but
I feel like she's just as worse.

730
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,159
She kills in some people. She's
clearly trained her daughter just to kill at

731
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,039
will, you know. So it's
just like she can think she has higher

732
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:43,840
ground, but she's not. What
do you think is gonna happen? Because

733
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,760
I feel like the main crux of
these episodes were obviously she wanted to work

734
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,239
with Hue Huy said no, and
I thought she's being somewhat genuine of like

735
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,760
expressing that she'd want to work with
them. She wanted to work with Butcher,

736
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,320
but then just got a butt whole
picture that that didn't work out her

737
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,400
way. So now in episode three, he was Homelander saying that they want

738
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:07,039
them to win because another dynamic,
I love that the president is completely against

739
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:12,599
her, like he knows she's a
head popper and then knows that like Vaught's

740
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,280
really bad. But they're both like
bullshitting each other. So it's like a

741
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,159
very fun dynamic where they're on the
ticket together but the president's against her group

742
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,519
of people and she's against the Presiden's
group of people. But Homelander is pretty

743
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:25,039
much pitching that you guys are gonna
win the ticket. You know, you're

744
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:29,079
either the vice president or something might
happen to the president where she would become

745
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:32,000
the president, and then you're gonna
reveal your soup. Because the idea deal

746
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:37,719
is they're pretty much doing a Civil
War storyline where they want superheroes to or

747
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:43,480
soups to register that they got powers
right and just be on the docket and

748
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,280
also just be back in movies and
not be on the streets like they really

749
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,920
want to have a Like in Civil
War, they wanted, hey, we

750
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,440
have the Avengers, but they don't
get to go unless we say they go

751
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,960
right, And that's what they want
to do with soup. So what do

752
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,480
you think is gonna happen with new
in this season? Is she gonna make

753
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,119
that jump where she's gonna say fuck
everybody. Yeah, I am fully soups,

754
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,119
and she's gonna keep playing it down
the middle because she was in gen

755
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,679
V and we have heard that gen
V's gonna continue another spinoff. So I

756
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,840
still think it's a character that could
also outlive the show and go on to

757
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,360
other things. But I could also
see you get killed because she's killed lite

758
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,920
in some people. So what do
you think about Newman so far after these

759
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,119
three episodes. I really like her
character, and I feel like, obviously

760
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:29,320
it's platonic, but I feel like
it obviously could have also been a little

761
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,679
bit more than that on her side
of things with with Huey, So yeah,

762
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:37,719
no, I think I like their
friendship and I like how sincere it

763
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,519
was, and yeah, Hughey just
throwing that acid on her maybe me laugh.

764
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:45,679
But I think that she's still even
though they're out to get her,

765
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:51,519
she still has that soft spot for
him, especially at the end when Homelanders

766
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:55,000
just like beaming into the events,
which is fucking terrifying, and and then

767
00:46:55,119 --> 00:47:00,280
he gets blinded and it just fucking
lasers the ice skater in half g Jesus

768
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:07,480
on ice or well no he he
first got May the act cutter and a

769
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,199
half, yeah, cut in half, and then the Jesus he slips and

770
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:14,400
then gets killed, and then the
Homelander actor, I think he got his

771
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:17,440
throat slipped by, Like yeah,
like the guy was jumping over the game

772
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,800
and lifts his legs up and sliced
his neck. Like five to ten people

773
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:29,079
are injured or die because like Homelander
is just decided in this. There's like

774
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:32,800
a like the Dawn of the Seven
on Ice show and that's where they decided

775
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,519
to meet, and that's where Huey
and Mother's mistking some information and yeah,

776
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:42,920
they just unfortunate events happened. Homelander
just pops off and unfortunately kills some more

777
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,599
innocent people. So again, what
a liability Homelander is? You know?

778
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:49,360
And they what do they attributed to
on the news after that? It is

779
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,760
like electrical accident. Yeah, it
was pretty much just like an iron n

780
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,280
one where they're like, oh,
it's a training expedition and you know,

781
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,039
we lost a jet. But yeah, of course Homelander didn't get any in

782
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:02,679
trouble. So but do you think
she become she does the Homelander plan comes

783
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:06,519
out and says she's a soup.
I think she's going to. But I

784
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,079
think the scene there where at the
end there where it's it's important, is

785
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:14,480
that she was defending Huie, And
what is it really for her own self

786
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:16,719
interest at that point because here he
could release those documents. I mean,

787
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:21,039
I don't know, because I feel
like she's gonna come out as a soup

788
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:27,519
anyways, which would then it would
make any leverage shoe he has irrelevant,

789
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,360
right. I think the only thing
she needs to worry about is what Homelander's

790
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,800
gonna do, because Homeland could kill
her. But again, we don't know

791
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:37,199
if can I thought, we we
don't know if she could pop Homelander's head,

792
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,239
right, Well, yeah we don't, so we don't know that.

793
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,360
In season three he just told her
to try. I don't think she ever

794
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:49,119
did. But now with her being
in penetral or impenetrable, like with the

795
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,519
gun and the acid, like,
can he kill her? Like before we

796
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:54,960
just thought she was a normal lady
with the head popping powers. But she's

797
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,000
like taking a bullet straight to head
and nothing happens. I didn't know homelanders

798
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,920
stronger than a bullet, saying that
we didn't know before she was impervious to

799
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,400
some things, so which Homelander is
too right, So I really don't know.

800
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,239
I don't know. I give for
the edge because that head popping ability

801
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,840
is quite good, which and at
the same point, the same thing,

802
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,360
if she could pop his head,
I guess it's good to have Homelander around,

803
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,760
but when he's being weird around with
your daughter everything, it's like,

804
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:21,599
I feel like you could just pop
Homelander's head and everything will be better.

805
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,760
Like I think Homelander being dead,
he's like better for every single character.

806
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,760
The problem is when the bad guys
need something done, they do like having

807
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,840
Homelander there. But I do think
that it should be that she can't pop

808
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,079
his head because I feel like she
would have just done it by now,

809
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:38,239
because he's too much of he's too
much of a risk to just keep around,

810
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,239
you know. So yeah, like
even when he just like called her

811
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,840
out and he like wanted to make
a speech in front of everybody, She's

812
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,280
like telling him no, but he
just forces the issue. He just like

813
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:50,800
has to have it his way,
and he's trying to hook his daughter or

814
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,639
his son with her daughter, and
he's being creepy about and everything. So

815
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,440
it's just like if I could pop
his head, I'd be doing that.

816
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,840
I get I gotta get him out
of there, you know. So I

817
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,800
genuinely thought. And they were having
their meeting and he's he's getting pissed off

818
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,880
with the Deep. It's like Deep
blow a train, Oh my god,

819
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,000
and like Deep walks over there,
and what does he say. He says,

820
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,480
He's like sex is like some sort
of a construct. Like he's like,

821
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:15,480
it's just a it's only a physical
construct or something like that. But

822
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:20,000
he's trying to say, like it
doesn't matter that. I didn't think that

823
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,239
was gonna happen because I just didn't
think they were gonna go that far.

824
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,039
And I think I knew with the
way Anthony Star was showing it, where

825
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:28,719
I thought, oh, he wants
to see if they're gonna do anything,

826
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,440
like if they're gonna listen to him. But again that's the Homelander character being

827
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,440
such a hypocrite, where like the
previous seasons, people weren't listening to him

828
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,800
and he hated that, and now
when he has all these fels that just

829
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,480
do nothing but listen to him,
he hates it. Like the Homelander of

830
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:44,639
character, which I think is a
good thing, can well, they'll never

831
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,960
be happy because they also pointed out
too, which I think was a good

832
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,800
thing. Where in season two I
think it was we got that whole uh

833
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,000
the dream sequence of him lasering everybody, right, and that wasn't a thing.

834
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,719
And then season three when he laser
that guy, I thought again,

835
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,840
I think it was kind of a
Bay and swim, but I thought everyone

836
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,840
thought, Okay, this is now
he's gonna pop off and just kill people.

837
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,679
But then Sage did make up a
good moment of like, you annihilate

838
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,280
everyone, there's no one to build
your statue, right, so it's almost

839
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,519
that thing. I thought that was
another good plot armor for him and not

840
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:17,480
killing people because this character still does
want to be loved and be a god

841
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,519
to people, so if he just
takes them out, like he's just gonna

842
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,039
be a god to himself, you
know. So I think that that was

843
00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:28,840
good. So yeah, we'll see
what's going on there and see what happens

844
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,360
with a newman and her daughter and
Ryan and all that stuff. We'll see

845
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:37,800
if they go on a couple more
play dates than anything. Butcher he's dying.

846
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,320
We only got a little bit of
Jeffer Deine Wargan here. Jeffer Deen

847
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,719
Warren's trying to recruit him. I'm
curious which way they're gonna go, but

848
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,239
I think they did it anyways,
because season four or season three's whole arc

849
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,719
was about Butcher trying to realize he
was being a ship person and he shouldn't

850
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,039
even be as violent as killing people. He will if he has to,

851
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:58,039
but he's making amends with Brian.
He could have screwed over Huie like he

852
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:00,639
did many times, and he didn't, so I feel like there is like

853
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,199
a little bit of change. Does
he still like shit on Starlight and say

854
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,599
you're not one of us? Yes, of course, because Butcher's Butcher.

855
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,119
But yeah, I'm curious more about
what they're gonna do with Jeffrey Dean Morgan's

856
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:15,119
character and what he has to offer, or like if there's certain stuff in

857
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,800
gen v that they could tie to
Jeffery Dean Morgan with the virus. I

858
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,760
really don't know, but Jefferdy Morgan's
great. There was enough on this show,

859
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,719
but I'm hoping there'll be more going
on. But yeah, I'm liking

860
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,960
this Butcher that it like we've got
three seasons of him being a complete asshole.

861
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:34,840
Carbon's still very charismatic. He's still
very funny. But I like this

862
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,320
as the Butcher because he has six
months to live. He's trying his best

863
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,840
to make amends. But the same
time, Jefferdine Morgan is like, this

864
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,320
is not the time for you make
amends. We need like the fucking the

865
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,920
Butcher, like we need you because
it's the worst time. So it's like

866
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,480
tough where for his his sanity.
He wants to try and be a better

867
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:52,960
person, but then it's like now
the world is saying, well, maybe

868
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,800
you shouldn't be that. So I
like his conversation he had with Ryan too,

869
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,320
where it really opened up and had
that hard to heart with him,

870
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:02,559
Yeah, which he says he's scared
to die and everything, like scared to

871
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:08,280
die, scared to fail, like
Ryan's mom is his wife too if he

872
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,119
doesn't successfully get Ryan into a safe
place. He was having visions about two

873
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,199
that we didn't mention that he's just
talking to Becca just randomly now, so

874
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,960
the the gen V or the temp
fees making him a little crazy. So

875
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,400
yeah, there's things moving in his
veins. Yeah, it's not going good

876
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,880
for him. Anything else on Butcher, Hmm, I think he wasn't do

877
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:35,039
he got kicked out of the group, right, we didn't talk about that,

878
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:37,440
which which to me wasn't a big
thing. Well, no, remember,

879
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:42,400
he completely got fired from the group. Remember, and at the end

880
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,360
of season three when they he said
he was sick, mother's milk got rid

881
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,960
of him. So which doesn't matter
that much. I'll believe you though,

882
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,840
Oh yeah he did, but it
does. America's Butchers still popped up where

883
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,960
they're going and Jeffer Deane Morgan's offering
the job, so it's not like a

884
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,159
big deal. So uh yeah,
let's take an ad break. We'll be

885
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,920
right back with the rest of them, and we're back Hue and Starlight.

886
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,199
I feel like Butcher and Starlight have
a similar thing where they have trajectories and

887
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:09,960
they're doing things, but it's not
like they're not too vital yet to the

888
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:15,599
plot. But Starlight was. She's
about building the Starlighters, and she's now

889
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,960
put the Starlight caution back on just
so because they think that could help.

890
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,239
They're trying to frame her. I
did. I thought it was a little

891
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,800
out of nowhere when they gave her
this backstory of her being like a like

892
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:32,360
a brat, bossy teenager with Firecracker
because apparently while they're at some same superhero

893
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:39,519
pageant, Starlight created some rumor that
the fucking Firecracker dag Anal with a bunch

894
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:43,519
of the judges, and like it
was like, so, I don't know,

895
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,199
we'd never seen that with Starlight,
So I don't mind them adding that

896
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,639
wrinkle, But I feel like I
wish they would have hinted at her saying

897
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,880
stuff like that earlier, because I
felt like it was always she was a

898
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,119
goodie two shoes and she got to
the boys. But now it's like,

899
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,760
oh, well to get there,
I maybe it was kind of an asshole

900
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,559
and it was good when she met
with the other people that I'll tell about

901
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:01,599
the things they've done. But I
feel like that's kind of out of nowhere,

902
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:05,960
But like, I'm enjoying it enough. I'm enjoying her and Hugh we

903
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:07,880
are together and hope they're not gonna
fight again like in season four and break

904
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:13,679
up. And then with Hueye,
we got introduced to her mom or his

905
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,679
mom. She's back because Scott,
uh god, I almost called him Shanda

906
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:23,719
easy easy pay day for Simon peg
in the bed. Yeah the whole season

907
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,559
he does nothing, but yeah he
had a stroke and then we get this

908
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:31,719
whole backstory about his mom and she
left because she was depressed and just feel

909
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,840
like she couldn't handle it. And
it was kind of back and forth and

910
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,000
nothing that I thought was unpredictable.
I thought it was still well written enough

911
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:42,760
and well acted. But yeah,
what do you think about Huey or Starlight

912
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,719
or any thoughts if you do have
them? Well, yeah, I mean

913
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,679
Huey's mom popping in there. Hue's
just he seems very very emostly compromised in

914
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,840
the in this arc so far and
Starlight, and he's gonna spread all over

915
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,639
the case too, right because he
didn't answer his dad's phone because he was

916
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:01,000
on the case. It's been now
there's many times where he's at the hospital

917
00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:05,679
when they might need him. And
yeah, yeah, and at least the

918
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,760
month thing I feel like they had
to do before the series ended, right,

919
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,559
because they always established that his mom
like left, like abandon him,

920
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:13,840
So I think it was good to
get that out of the way now.

921
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,599
So yeah, no, it was
in Starlight. I mean you already said

922
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:21,320
it. Just this alternate kind of
attitude that she had when they were younger,

923
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,800
and the pageants and stuff. And
yeah, she was not nice.

924
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,559
She said some mean things, So
it's it's pretty good for you. Did

925
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:30,400
you buy that as like, oh, it's just stuff we didn't know,

926
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,960
or did I bought it as stuff
we didn't know? Because I mean when

927
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,280
you look at the dynamic between her
and her mom and how her mom treated

928
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,400
her and how her mom pushed for
that win, so I think it makes

929
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,719
it make kind of makes sense for
her character to have gone through a little

930
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,400
bit of a phase where she was
just doing those sorts of things, but

931
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:52,519
obviously now she's bounced back and is
not that person anymore. Yeah, anything

932
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:55,159
on Jeffer Deine Morgan as well,
either because we didn't trouble that. But

933
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:00,920
I mean, last thing I've seen
him in was Walking Dad, although there

934
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:06,239
was a movie who Is It?
That was in there with him. He

935
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,159
plays a landlord and someone's renting Larry
Swank and he's a creeper and everything that

936
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,320
obsessed list. But he's great,
he's awesome. Yeah, And do you

937
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,800
think, like, do you think
because he wants for cruit Butcher to do

938
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,159
some crazy stuff and I just feel
like Butcher is gonna have to say no,

939
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,079
right because if he just goes back
and starts doing crazy stuff again.

940
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:31,159
I feel like that kind of defeats
the purpose of the character because they they

941
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:35,960
talked about like, oh yeah,
you saved me by like killing fifty people,

942
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:38,000
and you know, he should name
his son after me. Like I'm

943
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:42,199
just I'm also curious what they're gonna
do with Jeffer Deine Morgan, how far

944
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,199
they want to push in what he
does know, you know, m hmm

945
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:54,159
yeah, what else I'm trying to
think other than Comico and Frenchiet Mother's milk.

946
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:59,039
I'm glad Todd got killed. Sucks
for him. He was a big

947
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:02,440
Homelander fan, and they make them
like a mean greed Homelander meets Todd and

948
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,239
these two other guys, gives this
whole speech, makes it sound like it's

949
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:08,239
a big, like exclusive fan sighting, and then all of a sudden he's

950
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,000
like yeah, and I really thank
you for your sacrifice, and then to

951
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:15,920
it's like no, like you're the
one, dude, the sacrifice you're sacrificing

952
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,480
for us, Like oh no,
right, I guess we can talk about

953
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,599
a train and here actually right now, and then what they decide and I

954
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:24,079
guess Black Noir and I guess d
we got a few quick ones to hit

955
00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:27,559
on, but uh, they do
this thing where we talked about earlier.

956
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,400
There's a ride at the Starlight Homelander
trial. They kill these people, including

957
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,079
Todd, which was fine because Tod
was a piece of character, and then

958
00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:37,679
drop the boyzer to make it look
like the Starlighters supporter killed some people so

959
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,840
as even more heat on them.
For me, with this scene, I

960
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,559
was really worried because when they gave
them the bats. We have new Black

961
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:47,719
Noir, which we're gonna talk about, but they had a deep kill person

962
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,159
and then I thought a train was
gonna kill person. Very happy because the

963
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:54,480
past two seasons they've been like toying
with is he gonna turner? Is he

964
00:58:54,599 --> 00:58:59,440
not? And I'm glad that we're
finally getting a train like turning to the

965
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:01,159
good guy, because that was another
thing I was like, if we have

966
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:06,440
a whole season of him going back
and forth again, that's another thing where

967
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,599
it's just like, hey, I'm
over the storyline. You've been doing it

968
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:12,519
now for two years. So it
probably was more motivated by his brother has

969
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:15,199
now said no family member can talk
to a train and says that he's a

970
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,119
liar and he's not a hero,
so I like that he wants to win

971
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:22,199
his family back. He wants to
do that. But I do think now

972
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,199
officially, I feel like a train
can be redeemed. I think Deep is

973
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,559
like he's made his He's chosen Homelander
and he's gonna be there. And I

974
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:34,079
hope the Deep in season five gets
fucking killed in like an awful way because

975
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:36,960
he is an awful character. So
I think even if it's Annie, just

976
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:40,599
like Fox him hop and stuff.
But we did get to meet his octopus

977
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:44,880
Ambrosia, who is voiced by the
Great Till the Wind. I didn't know

978
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,760
that about the hop but luckily Amazon, you pause it, you get the

979
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:52,239
IMDb and I knew the voice.
I couldn't place it, but yeah,

980
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,039
I paused it, and uh yeah
till his Window was great. But yeah,

981
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:58,639
what are your thoughts on Deep in
a Train? Now? Another's Milk

982
00:59:58,719 --> 01:00:00,599
recruited him, so we got back
going on. Yeah, I like the

983
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:04,559
idea of a Trian coming around,
and I mean they kind of alluded to

984
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:07,239
that in the previous season, but
he ultimately was He always goes back,

985
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,519
He always like first, so I
think that it shows a lot of depth

986
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:15,039
with this character too. When He's
like, oh, you could have came

987
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:17,400
up and gotten into my business while
my family was there when they were kind

988
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,679
of like scoping him out. So
and he saved Hue from Homelander, which

989
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:24,760
to me is like a really good
full circle of he did. This whole

990
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,679
thing started with him killing Hugh's girlfriend
accidentally, right, So it's kind of

991
01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:32,920
like a mea culpan away where Homelander
had him dead to right and he saved

992
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,280
him. So yeah, yeah,
do you think Zecha asked Atrian, probably

993
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,800
gonna do something to help Big with
the boys, maybe a sacrifice. I

994
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,159
don't think so in this season.
Maybe you could see season five, because

995
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:51,800
I do think that I still don't
think it's a character that actually has to

996
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,400
die. I think there is a
version of this character that makes a full

997
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,079
good guy turn, and it's really
helping his community out, not just to

998
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:00,320
be like a black superhero for the
me you like, really helping his community

999
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,679
out, winning his brother's love back, winning the respect from his nephew.

1000
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,199
So I think there's a version where
he doesn't have to die, but I

1001
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:10,679
don't think it's at the realm of
possibility. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah,

1002
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,800
Ambrosia, you got anything on Brosia
or the Will Ferrell cameo. I

1003
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,679
mean, the Will Ferrell cameo was
just I totally thought like is this an

1004
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:21,760
origin story all of a sudden,
like this is crazy, and yeah,

1005
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,760
they always get me this. The
camera is like cut and there's just like,

1006
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,639
oh you know, what's that smell? What's that smell? I smell

1007
01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:32,719
it as a statue on your whatever, like your mantlepiece or yeah, so

1008
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Will Will Ferrell definitely sold that scene
for me and Ambrosia. Yeah, that's

1009
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:44,519
uh uh till the just a voice
and that I didn't catch on until you

1010
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:46,519
told me earlier today. That blew
my mind. Which the Deep said that

1011
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:51,320
he had got rid of the octopus, but he did not. He's he's

1012
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:59,199
relationship, wants their relationship. He's
calling calling Ambrosia babe, but she wants

1013
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:01,039
to run away. Let's go the
case like oh my my cousins have a

1014
01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:07,519
place or I can't remember where somewhere. But yeah, it's just man,

1015
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:12,679
it's a dynamic and it's funny because
when what did he say? Like Deep's

1016
01:02:12,719 --> 01:02:16,519
in the elevator with Ashley and Sages
in there too, and he's like I

1017
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:21,920
got an idea actually, like what
if I show up to Ryan's save,

1018
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:24,280
Yeah, it's like, oh you
what is and what does Ashley say?

1019
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,559
Oh you want to show up to
this like kids doing this thing after you're

1020
01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:34,239
convicted of Yeah, p sex sheality
peda has him on the b She Reality

1021
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,920
List or whatever it is. So
yeah, causing some problems, which that

1022
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,199
was another fun scene too. Before
the save, they showed us like them

1023
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,000
acting out the save and rehearsing it, which that clicked off Ryan too,

1024
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:49,239
like why are we rehearsing saving someone? And homelands like, oh, it's

1025
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,800
just to get you practice, but
really he's starting to see how manufactured the

1026
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,880
stuff is too, So I thought
that was a good example. The super

1027
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,800
Mix says I'll never fully forgive a
tran forty in the first episode. Do

1028
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,679
you mean just running over who Hugh's
girlfriend? As bas it sounds, I

1029
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,400
can forgive him because at least in
last season when we watch it, he

1030
01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:09,880
did apologize and he did like like
he was an asshole, and he didn't

1031
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,400
apologize for a while and he just
like was nonchalant, but he did apologize

1032
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,079
and he did like just say like
he he genuinely made a mistake, like

1033
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:22,039
he wasn't trying to kill and he
wasn't like I think he he was hurt

1034
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:23,840
by by a little bit, but
because he was just so arrogrant cocky back

1035
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,119
then. But I think he's finally
starting to realize how much he has fucked

1036
01:03:28,159 --> 01:03:31,079
up. So I think I can
forgive him, depending how how much good

1037
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:36,320
stuff he does. And then I
think finally unless yeah, chat throughout anything

1038
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,960
else, because we'll probably be ending
it here soon once we talk about Comiko

1039
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:44,079
and Frenchie. So I don't know
how to feel about this. I I've

1040
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,440
said this before last season honestly again
that I think almost every other than season

1041
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:51,039
one when they found Comiko. I
think that's her name, right, Camiko,

1042
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:53,679
yeah, Mkomiko Yeah, other than
season one when they found her in

1043
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,800
the Powers and then she had the
brother and everything like that. Each season

1044
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,920
I'm kind of just like, they're
always the lowest tier for me. And

1045
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:05,440
it's a weird thing where last season
they did kiss and he apologized and she

1046
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:09,679
goes, no, I like that, it wasn't a bad kiss, and

1047
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,639
then later on in the season they
said they loved each other, but it

1048
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,679
was bigger than just like a boyfriend
girlfriend. It was like a family love.

1049
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,679
But still down a way where I
thought she was saying she was like

1050
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,880
his brother. But then when we
pick up this season, it's fully you

1051
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,039
know, like, hey, I
know you love me and I love you,

1052
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:27,519
but this is never gonna happen.
So they right away say, hey,

1053
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:30,519
that's the only happen. And then
friend she, which they did say

1054
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:34,719
many other seasons that he had been
with the dated men before Seth's not new.

1055
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:39,199
But then we just meet a random
guy that's worked with Annie that's like

1056
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,159
his love interest now and I don't
know for me, And now they have

1057
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,159
Comico going to do anger management stuff. That's where I do appreciate that these

1058
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:49,159
episodes are an hour and we'll see
with the Comico stuff, we'll see with

1059
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:53,360
the Frenchy stuff. But both these
storylines I kind of go, I don't

1060
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,280
know if I need them. I
feel like I know them well enough so

1061
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,559
far, and I still feel like
the three seasons enough getting us to the

1062
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:02,119
point where they were gonna end up
together, and it feels like they just

1063
01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:05,559
dropped it kind of out of nowhere
and decided, hey, we're going this

1064
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:12,360
like these one way street with Camiko
and Frenchie. But then they went two

1065
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,719
ways and it feels like almost they
wanted to fill screen time and if they

1066
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,039
were just in love together, well
that's there together, right, so now

1067
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:24,039
they separate them. So I don't
know. I like the idea that Frenchie's

1068
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:27,800
with this guy that he's lying about
that he's I guess killed his family,

1069
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,199
so that's gonna be a fucked up
revelation when that comes out. But I'm

1070
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:34,599
not two in though that. I'm
still scratching my head a little of I

1071
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:38,440
feel like they maybe did too much
then in the previous seasons to make us

1072
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,280
think these two were going to be
a couple. So I don't think it's

1073
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,559
bad here, but it's definitely Both
storylines are the ones I'm least apart like

1074
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:47,280
least and I don't like I said, I'm not hating them, but I'm

1075
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,199
least interested in Kamiko will see maybe
with this girl that we meet, that's

1076
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:55,239
gonna be something. I didn't like
the scene where he was high on drugs

1077
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,960
and Camiko was fighting he is seeing
like the that stuff going on, because

1078
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,440
I felt like they had just done
that in the gen V with the whole

1079
01:06:02,159 --> 01:06:05,320
with what was his name Sam seeing
like the puppets, right, So I

1080
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,119
feel like it was kind of a
similar scene to that, but just lesser

1081
01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:13,480
than So, but where are you
with the Comico and Frenchy? I always

1082
01:06:13,519 --> 01:06:15,800
thought that their relationship is progressing to
the point where they were going to be

1083
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:23,079
a thing together, but clearly that's
not the case here because Kimiko is telling

1084
01:06:23,679 --> 01:06:28,679
Frenchy just to like just to go
for it and just you know, have

1085
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,360
have sex with with what is it
Colin? Yeah? An episode two?

1086
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,679
There? Was it? Episode two? Or one? There? Or was

1087
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:41,000
it? Where was the first?
Right when when they ki when he saves

1088
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:43,800
them, they kissed, which I
thought was very random too. Yeah,

1089
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,320
I didn't like. I didn't like
that. It's like they're in the middle

1090
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,239
of this Rod and I get,
but it's not like completely life or death,

1091
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,079
so it was felt a little random. But Mike, I mean kiss

1092
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:54,639
the nail on the head here?
Where this has happened almost every season other

1093
01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:57,239
than like I said, season one. I wish it to make more effort

1094
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,639
to bring them the name plot instead
of always having their separate subplot and that

1095
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,519
always happens. Where last year was
Camico lost the powers and she was trying

1096
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:08,800
to figure that out, and she
kept wanting to sing and she had musical

1097
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,480
thoughts in season two she lost her
brother and it was like she didn't trust

1098
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:15,719
the boys and she didn't trust friend
she and she wouldn't teach them sign language,

1099
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:18,719
like they're always off their side,
and that's where I was almost finally

1100
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,559
being a romance. But yeah,
I guess it's ah, this is the

1101
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:26,840
route we're going. And French she's
having some also questionable thoughts about the hit

1102
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,440
the path he's been on. So
yeah, anything else that we haven't hit

1103
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,039
on from the show or episode?
Did we talk about Black Noir? Yeah?

1104
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:38,960
Black Noir? Is he even a
superhero? Like does the guy even

1105
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,559
have superpowers? I think he's just
an actor. I think so too,

1106
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,639
which is like such a good way. Where episode one they treat him like

1107
01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:50,320
Black Noir. He's not saying anything, only a Noir. He's bouncing around

1108
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,800
until the very end when they beat
the guys up the hammers, He's like

1109
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:59,320
what the fuck and then like he
starts speaking and we just learned. Then

1110
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,280
he's like he wants some more about
his character. Everybody fucking hates him.

1111
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:09,599
They cannot like from a train to
Homelander. So I'm enjoying this. I'm

1112
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,159
looking really forward to the time where
they get in a real fight and they

1113
01:08:13,239 --> 01:08:15,399
gotta fight the boys. And because
I don't even know if the boys would

1114
01:08:15,439 --> 01:08:18,399
know that Black Nor is dead,
right, they weren't around it knows,

1115
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:27,279
right, that's the point of this
actor. So well, I would assume

1116
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,760
Ashley a Train and the Deep nocause
after he killed them in season three,

1117
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,319
he put his helmet down in front
of them all as like an intimidation,

1118
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,439
so they must know it's an actor. But yeah, so the world's gonna

1119
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,399
at one point one of these boys
are gonna think, like and he's gonna

1120
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,119
go fight Black Noir, like ready
for this fight and he's gonna be nobody.

1121
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:46,840
But yeah, what are you thinking
about this? Uh, the actor

1122
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:54,399
replacement for Black Noar. Yeah,
I quite enjoy it. I really genuinely

1123
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,000
thought, oh, Black MOR's back, like he survived you. I did

1124
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:00,479
at the start, and I got
very excited. I thought, Okay,

1125
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,359
this is much more funnier because when
they beat those people with the bats,

1126
01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:08,680
says, yeah, what the fuck
was that like? And he keeps throwing

1127
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,439
up these questions throughout the show,
like I'm just trying to really understand the

1128
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,239
character, like like Black Nor's room
is like what did he say? It's

1129
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:19,760
a karate dojo, but black More
didn't know karate, Like yeah, something

1130
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,279
like that. Yeah. When they're
doing the audition too, they're like,

1131
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,800
Blackmore, you gotta take down like
your entrance because when he comes in,

1132
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,119
he's like fucking somersaulting all over trains, like take it down a notch.

1133
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,840
Yeah. So it's just it's funny
that he's like trying to be a superhero

1134
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,000
but not what Black Noir is.
And yeah, I can just feel like

1135
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,680
Homelander wishes this black More couldn't talk
again because he just seems oh he does,

1136
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,800
because like when they're in the meeting
right and he's talking to Ashley,

1137
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,920
he's like, I'm just trying.
You need to figure out this character that

1138
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,920
I'm playing. Yeah, Omlaner is
like, nor, shut the fuck up.

1139
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,000
Yeah, it's it's I love that
they just didn't choose to also kill

1140
01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:00,720
him off like may that they had
an actor a play, so I think

1141
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,119
there'll be some fun situations there.
And again I'm I'm very excited when he

1142
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:08,880
bumps into like a butcher or an
Annie, like when that if something happens

1143
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,319
and they think it's like the real
Noir who is like very talented and it's

1144
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:15,800
just this fucking like scrub guy,
you know. So I'm I think it's

1145
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,000
a fun little bit there. I
did think it was gonna be like a

1146
01:10:18,079 --> 01:10:21,520
super powered person in there, but
I don't think it is. I think

1147
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:26,319
it's just just an actor. So
I think so too. Yeah, we'll

1148
01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:29,000
see how it goes. Like we
said, the cliffhanger this week was ending

1149
01:10:29,039 --> 01:10:31,079
on Homelander deciding he needs to go
back to where he was started. I

1150
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:33,399
don't know, you have any theories
because I got nothing. Do you got

1151
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:38,520
any theories of why he feels he
needs to go back there? I got

1152
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,319
no idea. Yeah, so I'm
not sure. Also, maybe it's just

1153
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,840
it could be just be internally,
but I really don't know. So maybe

1154
01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:47,560
something to his parents. But we'll
see. We'll be back next week with

1155
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,520
episode four of the Boys, and
we probably a lot of people boring