Hello, ladies and gentleman. Uh, welcome back to the Boys review the
first episode of season four The Boys. I guess which, as the clown
Prits podcast, couldn't think of a name today. You know, I had
so much time to think of a name, but I couldn't think of one.
Lots of good stuff from these episodes, but I am joined by I
am the Truth Gone, Taylor Field, good old truth gone. There you
go. Don't see I don't see a thumbnail in there, Taylor, It's
coming. It seems I got a few more SIPs of Zoe. Zoe doesn't
make it thumbnail skill or anything like that. It does it does boost brain
capacity. There you go. It's been a while since I had ahead of
Zoe, so I guess I'll have to crack and open this weekend. But
uh uh yeah, we're here if I guess, like, if you want
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my WiFi back in the day at leith Ed you know, and you know
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know what these the whole rogers I shouldn't trust Rogers. Rogers is garbage.
Should have went with tell Us. That's what I told you guys before.
When I had my person, I got the highest WiFi. That's not it,
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go. Maybe, but they just suck a whole bunch of different ways.
But yeah, as you can see, I'm still playing around it. I'm
not using the my camera because I have no beeps. I thought I figured
it out. I thought I figured out way to reroute it, and it
was fine for a while, and then it started to beep. So I
don't know, So who knows. I might be rocking just the Matt camera
from now on because I cannot live in the world beat, but I can
live in the world with more boys. So what we're gonna do is,
well, I guess the show someone's gonna clip that out and make me look
like some right wing talks of men like I can live in the world more
boys, not too many women in this world. I need some more boys.
But no, we're gonna give our non sport thoughts on all three episodes
as a collective, and then we'll let you know. We'll take a little
ad break, and then we'll get into spoilers. So if you've only seen
a couple or you are behind, we will talk for about fifteen twenty minutes
of just our overall thoughts of the first three episodes. So, yeah,
Taylor, take away, what did you think about us coming back? Obviously,
last year we left on a couple of cliffhangers, found out Butcher was
gonna be dying. Found out well, Homelanderer killed the innocent man. I'm
trying to think what other cliffhangers was awesomely and was sticking with them, Ryan
was sticking with them, the soldier boy bag Ice. We had lost Black
Noir, so that was also a question. May have had outed Homelander and
all these videos and stuff. And luckily, if you have any questions,
I did rewatch every single season episode of the Boys leading up to this because
I wanted to and which is it helps because there are some things I have
questions about. But what are your feelings so far about on the first three
episodes of season four. Yeah, I'm I'm just I'm I'm super super happy
with them. I think they're great. Well, I wouldn't put them as
the best episodes of the Boys of all time, like all timelike openers.
For those first three, I'm definitely really enjoying them, and it's a strong
start. I think that there were so many things going on. That's again,
it's just picking up because I didn't watch the previous seasons like you like
you have. You've just you've committed to that, which is a good refresher.
But I'm trying to pick up and connect with these storylines again and these
characters and just kind of figure out, okay, where things are. I
should have done maybe a bit more of a recap, but do it for
season five when it ends, I'll do it. I'll probably do it for
season five. Yeah that's ending. But uh yeah, there's there's so many
things that are going on, and I just think, man, it fools
me, It really really does, because I think, holy shit, the
one particular thing and that we were talking about earlier today just totally fooled me.
I thought it was gonna be actually happening, But now there's there's a
lot of cool twists and stuff that's going on here, and just man,
Homelander being Homeland at Lander is just man, it's great. It's it's just
he's he's just so crazy and quirky, and these characters really just being uh
yes, that's a djvoo there in the chat. I feel like these characters
are just hitting a point right now where obviously now we know that season five
is gonna be that last season, but where we're at now in the story
and seeing certain characters interact with their characters, I just feel like it's getting
really really juicy, and it's it's it's building up towards something. And of
course they're introducing a whole bunch of new characters, which I really appreciate.
I love that this show can do that consistently. While you love your og
cast, they're producing all these new individuals that are just so either they're there
as canon fodder or they're gonna actually play a more significant role in the overall
story. But yeah, so far, I think I think these episodes have
been have been pretty pretty awesome. Yeah, yeah, I know. I
was happy with them because I did rewatch them. I think it is kind
of on par. It's tough with season one because they weren't as wild and
as they were plot driven, but that was just the introduction to a lot
of things. But I don't have any issues with the first three stars of
them, and even season one that was a full binge that was a little
bit different, but watched them back. Yeah, I think because there's one
situation in general that I do get, which rut they're going, but it's
it's tough because I feel like it's a it's a little I feel like last
season kind of was a setup. It kind of gave us false expectations of
this sea. This season, at least, I think we may get to
certain things, but I do get that there. I think they're doing it
to mirror a lot of stuff in the Weird the real world, which was
good for Eric Crypti to kind of say like, hey, if you don't
like the real politics, you should stop watching, because that's this season.
The boys have always had politics, but this is definitely the most political one.
I think last year they were really starting to like lean it like whatever
you care about your sides, the fucking Homeland or merchant. Sure, it's
looked exactly like the mega John Donald Trump things. Right, So it's like
anybody that can't see, hey, they're trying to, whether you agree with
or not, draw some sort of line. It was already there, So
I think he was smart to say he if you didn't like that, tune
out, because it is. This is really driven, especially i'd say and
episode one, episode two, very And the scary thing is it's it reminds
me like when I watch Oppenheim, or not exactly because no one's not making
the boys, but it just reminds me in a way of like, man,
sometimes it is like it's like the Civil War movie. It's like too
close to home. Sometimes I'm fine with that in my content. I'm fine
to watch it. I think the show makes it work because they already had
political things in the show, so they're just amping it up. But there's
many situations where it's not just satire. It's just like, man, this
could happen or a version of it already has happened, and it sucks,
but hopefully sometimes it will shine a light on you know, what should we
do and what should we not do? So I've liked all that stuff.
Performances all around, I think are great as usual. You know, Carl
Urbans, Gray's butcher Anthony Star is just amazing. As Homelander, we'll get
about get more to it in spoilers, but I think this is like,
it's still Homelander, but it's a very i won't say very different, but
he's going through a different crisis than he has before. And I'll say it's
a side we haven't seen of him. And even the way they're shooting him,
it's lots of close ups and moments with no music and no audio,
like he is a let's just say he's going through a crisis, which I
don't think they really showed in The Trader. There's just gonna show like Homeland
wreck and havoc, but he is going through maybe his version of a midlife
crisis. That's not what you want the Homelander. There's a couple of stories
I guess said that I thought were dropped too easily, or stories I just
feel that I'm not that invest it in. But I think that kind of
always happens with the boys for other people, right because For me, I
go like, man, I still like I like seeing the shenanigans that the
Deep gets into. But then I'll see other people be like, that's my
least favorite part of the show. I hate it, And I not that
I hate certain aspects of the show. Again, it's boys, but there's
definitely like I don't think it's like when now I'm rewatching House of Drake and
always you could rank them, but it's like there's certain stories where it's like
there's five stories going on and most these are pretty on par for me,
where this there's definitely like a storyline that kind of similar to the other seasons.
I don't check out, but I don't care about as much and I'm
not really enjoying the route they're going. So it's just a couple of characters
where I thought, oh, who knows what they're gonna do here? But
yeah, overall, you get what you want with the boys. There's some
action in there, there's some political stuff, there's some satire, there's some
gross out moments, there's some ragious sexual stuff. Like you've seen episode three.
All I gotta say is the sauna and you know what I'm talking about,
you know, like they thank they yeah, they they they still go
for it. So yeah, overall, really enjoying it. I'm excited.
We talked about on the newscast, So just to reiterate, I think it's
great that it's ending at season five, just because I feel, as we
said before, some of these things just kind of have to come to a
head. Even this year, when they introduce new soups, it almost feels
very similar to like what season two we had storm Front, and then season
three we had Soldier Boy, and then season four here they like introduced some
other new villains and I don't want and that's why luckily with five it's ending.
But that was my worry if I didn't know it was ending with five.
It feels like again of oh, we can't take Homelander down because there's
these other villains we gotta take down first, and then we'll get to Homelanders.
So it feels like it's kind of falling in a formula. But like
I said, because it's ending in five, that formula I think is going
to an end. And there's certain new character in particular that I'm very curious
about what their motivations are, and that's a good thing with the boys,
it keeps up with that gray area. It's like I said, that's a
comparable House of Dragon, where you know, there's good guys doing bad things,
there's bad guys doing good things, and you gotta find some some personal
latch onto as far as like who could be your hero and stuff. So
anything else Dawn Spoor is mister Field. Not really, but there's you made
some great points about just how they tackle certain things, and I think that
there are some themes in particularly the second episode that I mean, I I
know I know some people that will they are never gonna watch this, but
I know some people that probably are very similar in certain aspects and it's uncomfortable.
You should see off cast. He's an animal, Yeah he's brutal,
but yeah, it's just it's it's funny how this this show really can just
smack the nail up right on the head with being just bought on, with
how they're they're just addressing things and how they they treat it very comedic,
and I think that's a bright way of making it more entertaining. But it's
just funny how, especially in each season, they managed just to tackle these
different things that are kind of like in the present time, and episode two
really was just hammering it out. They were going like boom boom, boom,
boom boom, hitting all these things that have just i'd say, plague
society for the past four years. So I think that it's I don't know
if that I mean that stuff is not in the comics. I think the
comics does its own kind of take where they're kind of handling that society and
the comics, but this show does so well because it's handling and just it's
to me, it's like south Park. South Park just takes the problems of
society and just think make it a laughing joke. And so I think the
show The Boys is doing a great job and just kind of taking these themes
in society right now and not trying to make it all just a laughable joke.
But at least they're creating awareness for it that the people that you seek
portrayed in this show. There's a lot of people that are absolutely like this,
and all to varying degree. Is an extense, of course, but
I think that's probably the scariest thing. But it's nice to actually have that
revelation. So yeah, well we're gonna get into it. Now, So
if you've not seen the episodes, bow out and we will take a little
break here and then we'll get some much spoilers. We'll wear right back and
we're back. So it might not be the person you think I want to
start with. And I feel like when we're talking about the episodes and like
three and stuff, that it's best that what we're gonna cover them all won't
go in order, maybe talk about it by character by character. I want
to get your opinion on Sage, right, that's her name, Sage.
You know it's sister Sage. But she's like, I don't want they had
to add that on me because like, I'm a black woman, and I
love when he's like, oh why when you join the seventy they can get
some racist ass costume. Like, so she's a very interesting character. So
what they establish is, Okay, we need new members of the seven off
the Starlight's gone. We lost I guess, oh right, we lost Mave.
We'll get to Black Noir, but he's back technically, but we why
am I thinking? Because they needed three members? Who else am I missing?
They lost Mave because she like in the world died question mark or like
quotation, but she like just ran off and then they lost who did I
just say? They temporarily had that guy who won the competition, right,
Starlight's friend, and that was they gave that spot to The Deep. Remember
that video that like when he comes out, I guess is it that they
never replaced Stormfront? Is that what it is? Maybe? I think so?
So a storm Front Mave and god, what's her name? Annie?
What's her character name? Starlight? So that's why so they of course they
talk about, oh, well, you know, I'm saving one seat for
my son Ryan. But there's still these other two spots. So they're going
through all these heroes, which that's always fun. When they get this one
and I was like, oh, this guy he ate a dog. I
was like, oh no, we actually had a dog. Outs there's a
quite a bit of difference. Of course, Deep's defending this guy fucking animals
and everything like that. So as usual, great, just one liners in
the boys, like before I forget it. There's one moment with the Deep
when he's on a talk show and they're talking about him like having sexual relations
with the octopus, and he just is sitting cross like like a fucking like
kid, and he's supposed to be giving this a serious interview about his divorce
and everything. Like again it's just like such an outrageous character. But they're
talking about, Okay, we need to replace two members and we'll get to
Firecracker in a second, because I feel like like that that we know what
tropes they're hitting there, and that was like obviously, hey, which route
this is gonna go? Sage is what's interesting me because they set her up
by she's the smartest person in the world. So she's kind of like a
I don't know, Franklin Richards, Tony Stark. She's just very smart.
She can not only BookSmart, but just read the situation. She looks at
people up and down, so it's like her brain is so it's almost like
a, oh god, what's that movie Bradley Cooper he pops the pill and
they made a TV show? Yeah, limit to this. It just feels
like that's her powers, right, It's just her her brain can just pick
up stuff more than other people. So at first, you know they shoot
her down because they train her in some history. And then when Homelander goes
to recruit her because he's just in like a run and we'll we's gonna talk
about Homeland in a second, but I want to talk about Stage. She
comes off as like somebody that wouldn't be with Homelander per se. She even
says she doesn't want to be part of the Seven. She just kind of
like even insults him a few times, and not insults them in a way
of being mean, just the way that she's saying truthful things. And we
know Homelander has an issue with the truth sometimes, but she eventually accepts to
do that because you know, he makes his pitch of it. You could
make a difference and actually, you know, get out of this small house,
right kind of the whole fame and riches eventually gets her. But my
question is, so she is there to work with Homelander, and they want
to make him the equivalent of Caesar. That's what they talked about, right,
So, because he's just like people hate me, they love me.
I kill people by safety, but I can't win them. They want to
give him a Caesar like complex. So she's laying out all these things throughout
these episodes what they're gonna do, and that's where it's just like when we
met her, she didn't come off as a villainous or someone that was down
for killing Inness, but that what does happen. But then as the episodes
go along, I just feel like with Homelander, I feel like when it's
actually by herself, not with the Soups, I feel like when it's the
Deep, she's like continually even a trade of it, she's continually like trying
to be everyone's friend, and not in a way where it's like pathetic,
in a way where I don't know, does she just like these people or
what I think is like she has some sort of long con right, And
I don't think it's like at first I said, oh, she's secretly working
with the boys and Annie, but she's still getting innocent people killed. So
I don't know. Is it even simply like she just wants to lead the
Seven? I don't know. And I'm very curious about this character. She's
sleeping with the Deep now, which I did not see coming at all,
since I just feel like she's at fought and she's getting into many different piles
and even Deep it's like, oh, before when you started, I thought
you were bitch, but you're one of the most awesome people I've ever met.
And even Homelander like, of course when he's like, oh, yeah,
we're not gonna have any problems. He's already having problems with her.
But what do you think, Like, what is your take on the Sage
character right now? And because I'm not confused, I'm curious in a good
way and not sure where it's going because I feel it's they've given her kind
of you know, shades of good, shades of bad, shades in the
middle, and then a bunch of other stuff. So what do you think
about Savee so far? Yeah, I'm I'm curious, and I feel like,
if you are the smart person on the planet, you're gonna have your
own self interests lay at the forefront. And while yes, she knows that
if she messes up or does something against Homelander, Homelander can kill her,
she doesn't have any physical strengths or anything beyond that, aside from she's just
the smartest person on the planet. So, like I said, I feel
like in that sense, you're gonna look at your own self gains and your
own self interest first, and that's gonna be at the forefront. So while
she's definitely helping Homelander, I think it's interesting that you have this dynamic or
Homeland her is she's calling him petty for it, but I think he's doing
it as a way to keep her in check by putting her in the seven,
putting her at in a way in an area spotlight that he can kind
of keep tabs on her. And I think he realizes that she is dangerous
having her around. But I like that she is blunt and upfront with him,
And so while she's doing that, Yeah, you're right, she is
friendly with everyone else and she's doing other things with other people. So it's
it's interesting and like she she is trying to do a coop, but like,
what's really going on here, Like it doesn't seem like it's really benefiting
Homelander necessarily. Well, I mean maybe not yet. Yeah, I guess
I was trying to think. I guess the I think in episode two because
she did do that whole she pulled out that whole Starlighter fake fight thing,
right, because what they do is they say Homelanders innocent. She goes to
this rally because it's very much like a real life thing. There's the God,
there's the star Lighters, and then what do they call the Homelander people.
I can't remember. There's a group, but they have like a group
name for like his fans. So if they're both barricaded Homelander fans on one
side, Starlight fan or i'd say supporters one side and Sage goes their dress
as a Starlight you know, supporter has a coffee and throws it at someone
says, oh you fascist, prick, and like it's insights a fight,
right, And that's as of right now, the Starlighters anning. That's not
what they were wanting. They weren't wanting to be physical. They were wanting
to just use a message, use their words. So that's something where she
kind of made it look like the Starlight people. Like she added to that
where oh, you know, should we believe Annie because they could be worse
than Homelander, like that guy that showed up to the building, right like
where as those kids in the basement where the kids we don't have a base.
Yeah, And again the funny thing is they did it in like a
comedic way, but it is like that shit unfortunately happens like all the time.
Like I'm not even trying to make this political, but like some guy
was arrested today he was going to a Bad Bunny concert, he had a
bunch of weapons and his goal was he was gonna go shoot it up to
start a race war he said, and this just happened today. Answer,
it's like, that's what that accomplish is there. So I feel like she's
taken some heat off him at least. So I feel like it started rocky
in episode one, and it was going good in episode two, and the
episode three, it's back to rocky because like Coland just doesn't like a person
that's gonna question him. But he said, oh no, that's what I
want, Like I can I can handle the true if we all know,
if that can't be Homeland or like he can't handle the truth, like it's
that's one of his worst qualities. So I don't think it's gonna get to
a point where he's gonna want to take her out per se with these some
of these actions, because I think he does know she's smart and he could
use her. So I think she has benefit of them that way. But
again he's already getting kind of a little upset about it. So I really
don't know what rout they're gonna go then, And that's what's interesting because she's
like a wild card. But again, like I was saying the trope of
the show, the boys were like, oh, who's Sage And they were
all her round. So they're doing that thing again of like Soldier Boy in
Stormfront, where her and Firecracker were becoming like the more immediate threats. Even
though Firecracker no power, she can like she does. She can snap her
finger and make like a little sparks. They did do the class ship and
I got super STRINGD So it's like, Okay, that makes sense, but
what are your where are your thought some Firecrackers? So far, she's she's
spicy. She's a character, that's for sure. Yeah, But I guess
it makes sense that she was brought in because she's got the following and she
has the savvy on fifty two white male, Yeah, she's got she's got
the knowledge and the insight on I think pushing this fight a little bit further.
Yeah, and she's already completely opposed to Starlight right like we learned why
later. But even before she's in the seven, she's all in the like
f Starlight bandwagon. So yeah, exactly, So I think the motivations are
there, and I think that's that's obviously what Sage wants is to have someone
here is very loyal to Homelander and wants to make sure Homelander succeeds and put
Starlight down. And I say that because she knows that there's a leak.
She knows that something's compromised, so she's trying to help flush that out.
And so you need reliable allies on your side while you're trying to figure out
who the mole is and whatnot, which Homelander did not deal with that well
because that that girl's like, oh, Starlight she called me earlier today and
just fucking beams and say it just like doesn't matter, like you're gonna be
okay, right, And Homelanders like, oh, yeah, she's gonna be
okay. And then yeah, like oh we found them and just killed her.
And then Ashley, who again I don't much say about her, but
we talked about her last season as every watch she's one of my favorite just
like minor characters in this show, that actress always delivers. She's fucking on
point everything, Like I legitimately hope after the Boys we see her in like
a lot of comedy movies, Like I know they're not making them anymore,
but I wish she was around when they were doing like the Appatoo Rogan Crew
movies, Like I feel like she just would have fiten perfect because just even
later when she's having that sex scene with the guy and she's just like,
you want me step on your balls now, just like the shot of the
heels. Yeah, it's it's her delivery. She she never feels like a
characature. It feels like this is a real person and poor girl, she
was gonna try and go to Disney, and then after that she tore up
a resume because she just realized that she tries to leave, they're gonna kill
her. And that's where I don't know if you remember this, she helped
cover up May escaping last season. So I think her and we'll get to
a train. This is more signs that Okay, she can't get out.
What's gonna be the way to get it, like out of the situation is
to end it right with Homeland or the Boys or with the Seven and stuff,
like, she can't leave, so she's gonna have to. I think
she's gonna be another turncoat, and man, I think that's I think if
they ever get to the situation with like MM trying to really like use her
services and recoup her and if she would ever be like the boys layer or
be around Butcher, Like, I just think that's calm any gold if we
can get at Ashley with the boys for not like to be the part of
the boys, but just like if she's a mole, I think there is
so much good stuff there. So I hope that happens and she continues to
deliver. But yeah, Firecracker is like red Eye thumbnail girl, Like that's
what this person is. It is the person that is like super anti woke,
super this Like she has this like plaque that says Jesus, guns and
babies. Like she's literally like if you think the worst type of right wing
person, that's very over the top. That's what Firecracker is. I still
got the sense though that I don't know if that's truly her, because she
does give that speech about like I'm not trying to offend her, but she
does get that speech about like why be almost a good person and be for
good when you could, you know, have some big beliefs and be remembered.
So I'm not saying she's not racist or not transphobe girl. That stuff.
I believe this character probably could be, but it feels like she's definitely
playing it up. And I think that's also shot at. Like we just
talked about our Stars review, we know there's so many people that I'm sure
there's some YouTubers, some critics, some fans out there that are maybe legitimly
mad, but then we know people that are just they're just doing it because
they get clicks and money, right, they make the same Like there's one
podcaster that had like the same thumbnail three videos in the row, but they're
all like two hundred k because it's just them going oh my god, and
it's showing a picture of the acolyte and it's just like okay, and it
just complained about the same thing over and over. So I think that's what
this was hitting on, is they might have these views, but they are
on purpose turning it up to one hundred just to get monetization off of it.
And that's what she's doing by getting in the seven, right, because
she's not really like if you look at the powers, like, out of
all the people we've had on seven, I fink she's like the weakest one
we've ever had, Like she's just a super strength really, right, like
yeah, even no r we never got in his powers, but he had
his skills, like and he's upgrading every episode we had the I forget what
the oh elusive who was e turn Invisible? Maybe was wonder Woman Homelander was
you know, uh, Superman, you have a trains that's flash deep,
so Offen Batman, Yeah exactly. So it's like with Firecracker, like she's
a pretty low tier, but she's just someone like like that's you know,
like you said the Homelander. My question is, do you think they're going
to put her in Homelander together? Because I think she was trying to get
some of this episode. He's emotionally compromised a little bit here. Ryan's going
for Butcher and Homelanders just all sad now. So I think you could see
it like he's gonna show up atter Room when they're gonna have a crazy Fox
sash or something like that, seeing me firecracking on the balls or something like
that. You know she's gonna use that. I think what's gonna happen.
I'm not saying they're gonna do a Joker Harley Quinn thing, but I think
they're gonna hook up and Homelander's not gonna fall in love like he did with
Storm Front or I can't remember the I'm forgetting name, but the lady from
the first season that was like his handler and he drank the milk from.
Like. I don't think he's gonna fall in love. I think he's just
gonna like have sex with her sometimes because he's stressed, and this girl's gonna
take it as more and be very annoying to him. And that's how I
think it's gonna go. I think it's gonna happen at some point. Uh
super Mike. Ohh. I was just say on the note of these people
hooking up, so with Sage and the Deep hooking up, Now, what
was that panshot to that little bloody instrument? I didn't know, and that's
why I was gonna ask you. I wasn't sure if I was missing something.
If anyone in the chat knows what that was, it was like,
yeah, it was like a rod and it was covered in blood, and
I thought we're gonna get that revealed later. I'm not sure if there's something
in the episode that I missed, but that's where I was like, again,
Okay, she's up to something. So if anyone in the chat knows,
please let us know. Because I didn't know what the rod was,
but oh oh, I think I found it here interesting, great if you
shared it, motherfucker. You know, I'm like, can't you know?
I'll read super Mike's question while Taylor stream, I just took it as her
wanting to play around from see what happens like a science a scientist running a
human experiment, which I guess that could work out. And again she's still
in the villainousych is. Part of her experiment is killing people, so she's
somebody has to be taken down. But uh, yeah, I could see
that. I think her hooking up with the Deep makes things a little more
less about the experiment, unless she is just trying to turn the Deep fully.
But I think we will get to them. I think we've finally he's
not having a good guy turn. But what was this rod? Apparently it's
a metal rod that temporary, temporarily deactivated her powers. Why would you want
to do that just so she couldn't think for a little bit, I guess,
I guess so. But it makes sense because she's eating the junk food
and she's watching garbage TV. Right, and it's completely different from what she
was doing before where she's always reading books And so did you get that from
the comics or like somebody tough Collider? Okay, I get there, you
know, I guess so Lena Moore, And that's fine. I get that,
Like, you know, Daredevil likes to you know, take a bathroom
water to take out some hearing and stuff like that. So that's fine.
I thought it was a bit more well, I'm guessing though, I was
gonna say I I thought it was gonna be more vital. But I'm guessing
what's maybe gonna happen is at some point those cares, somebody might use that
rod to like weaken her defenses maybe, or they'll just know that, hey,
when she uses that, she doesn't have she doesn't have the smart so
we could like Outsmarter out Witter. So I feel like that rod has to
come into play, right because they focused on it. Yeah, so someone's
using that, so yeah, we'll see. So uh yeah, let's uh
we're talking about the partner. Let's talk about Homelander. So Homelander, he
was on trial episode two, he was episode two or three. He was
not guilty. He does I think love Ryan to an extent, but the
problem is he doesn't love Ryan more than himself, and that's what we see
here where it starts off. Then, honestly, he's bad father in the
sense that he's still not the most caring, but he's doing the best he
can. It still feels like he is supporting his kid one hundred percent.
But now it's almost like he's smelling the blood in the water and sees that
the same way Soldier Boy got replaced by Homelander. Like they're almost trying to
set up Ryan to replace him. They don't want Homeland to be around him.
They don't want to be there for a save. They're giving all this
information. And the other thing that they started to play off on season three
was that there is still part of him that's human. He's finding gray hairs,
he's like they even mentioned that they needed to like photoshop some of his
like neck chub out or like his bowtox and stuff like just like he was.
He's looking older, right, so like he is having a midlife crisis
in all the ways where he's getting older, he's not as strong. He's
like he's seeing the younger generation move up. People don't love him as much
anymore because it's divided, and at first he thought that was good. So
I'm really enjoying this. Anthony Star is doing some great work. I'm loving
this really because Homelander always has like an inner crisis, but this feels like
very different, and especially with season five, this does feel like it almost
end of the role row type of crisis. My only thing that I was
disappointed by, and I think it can kind of go with Ryan, was
the way the season ended in three was he lasered that guy, and I
felt like it was gonna be a thing. And I get what they're trying
to do is evil bad guy in corporation can just make him innocent, but
I thought it was gonna be a bigger deal, and just by episode two
it's just kind of wrapped up like he was innocent. That's it. And
also it was strange that in season two season three things have changed as the
time jump because Ryan the actor fucking he grew like his voice is deeper.
It's crazy. But when Homelander killed that guy at the end of season three,
Ryan was smiling, like accepting that. But I feel like the second
we pick up in this season, Ryan's like back to like, I don't
like this. I don't know if you're doing the right thing. I fell
off. So I felt like the season three finale kind of kind of was
a trick because it because it just feels like Homelander's at SaaS Quo. It
feels like no different there where he was last year. Of there's some people
that support him and some don't. You know, it just feels like,
okay, got away from I would have liked to seem a little bit more
so. I think a few of those plot beats I wanted more a little
bit of writing. But as far as the Homelander character himself, I think
is still phenomenal. I'm very curious what they're trying to insinuate where he has
to go back to, like where he was born slash created, because I
don't know how that would help him. We got a couple of flashes of
him in like a you know, a vault and stuff, but I don't
know, I don't know what we get out of that. And I'm not
saying it's a bad thing. So what are your thoughts on Homelanders so far?
Yeah, he's he's getting older, that's for sure. Yeah, he's
just he's looking at his pubes all the time throughout these episodes. Pretty long,
pube there too. Whatever you want downstairs. But if all those people
are like that, he's got to fucking like jungle down their homelanding jungle.
We finally got to see him without the uniform on, which was interesting.
He was in bed. Yeah, we've only seen that once. Uh it
was it was no we okay, so there's a cheat. We The only
time he saw it was in season two one was when the guy that was
like the person that would change in the Homelander would do that. But there
was one time in season two actually came into his office and he was naked
because he got a heart on because his uh, his points had went up.
People are liking more, but yeah, it's very rare. We don't
seeing the costume, and I think that's almost on purpose, like they kind
of a Captain America under incognito suit too. Right when he went to see
Sister Sage just yes, he was Yeah, he had the classic hat and
everything, and even when he was nude, he had like almost like homeland
or underwear, like it was like it looked like made specifically for him.
When he had that fucking like chest of like the milk bottle his pubes for
some reason, he had black nor sword. He had a picture of storm
Front from when she was in the Nazi like third Reich, Like, I
love that he has this like little dexter kid of bad memories. You know,
it's fuck what a character, you know, But yeah, he's I
think you said it spot on. He loves Ryan, but he loves himself
more and he just gets getting pissed off because Ryan's just doesn't like hurting people.
Is developing down a different path and it's not the path that that Homelander
wants him to go down and set up. And it's even more conflicted because
Ryan's like, oh, I don't want Butcher to die, and oh I
didn't mean to kill that that person. Yeah, the guy just like you
pushed me a little and he was going, which I was so glad because
when I saw him the promo Ryan killing a person, I was like,
oh, like that feels really early, but I like now that he killed
them and felt regret immediately, where Homelander feels no regret. Even at episode
one, he's training Ryan to talk like humans are useless to toys. Yeah,
play, and Ryan repeats that. So that's where again I still need
a little bit more, But I did like that. Okay, Ryan,
like I said, he's not He's not a cold person like his dad.
And I feel I kind of feel like I know they're working on this virus,
which we'll get to because there's stuff about the Homelander thing, but I
feel like a combo of the virus, but more so like Butcher and Ryan
gotta kill Homelander, right, I feel like I feel like it might go
away where Butcher makes a sacrifice play. But I feel like they're gonna Ryan
has to do that. I don't know, I just feel like that that's
what they're leading to. I think so, I think so, I mean,
especially seeing how much older he is now, I feel like, are
how how are they limited to this? Are we gonna have Butcher die because
he's got six months? So is he gonna die? And then we're gonna
get like a time jump a little further with Ryan being older and finish the
fight or right, he's gonna get season five at least, So Ryan's gonna
kill or fight Homelander within the six month period. Uh well, season five
could still be into that six month period, right, because six month just
seems like a long time, not a long enough time to train Ryan to
fight Homelander. Yeah, but it might just be like a Homelander could be
weakened, or even then he just could just be angry, right, Like
that's how he accidentally killed Stormfront is he was so angry that he just laser
her and everything. So that's why I could see like him killing Butcher,
like just anger him, and that could be something where he just like turns
it on and maybe Homelander's weekend because we can talk about that virus a little
bit where they said that the virus from gen V which you know, if
you don't watch genv it's fine, you don't have to be. That's where
they set up. They found a virus to kill soups. But the thing
is, it's of course not powerful enough yet to take out Homelander. So
again they like we said, why I'm happy five's ending. It's like another
Oh we found someone kill Homelander. Oh no, actually it doesn't work.
So I'm happy again that we're in season five. We're gonna find the thing
that kills Homelanders. So but I did like Ryan saying that he doesn't want
Butcher to die, because I think that's a great way to give Butcher plot
armor, because even last year it was luckily they gave him soup powers.
But when I was rewatching four, there's a few times where it's like,
I don't know why Homelander other than being obsessed with having like a mortal enemy,
Like, there's no reason why he couldn't have killed Butcher like a few
times this season. So I do like that armor of oh, yeah,
don't kill him, because you know, let him die, but if you
kill it's almost like if he does kill Butcher, he'll lose Ryan, right
because that's the last piece of his mom So I thought that was very smarter
them. What was gonna say? Superman says, how you guys feel that
they've been handling the gen v stuff fire so far? I feel like it's
a looming, big plot point that may not really be important to season five.
I think you could be right, Mike, because, like we said,
with them saying it's not ready yet, but I think it's fine with
it being a looming plot point of just they found a virus and they could
take them out because they just mentioned it a few times. I think they
could have gave a little more backstory. But at the same time, I
think they're trying their best because they make fun of Marvel, right. I
think they're trying their NDC and everybody like just to connected to universes. I
think they don't want to make you feel like you have to watch gen V,
So I think if they hit it too hard, you do start to
lose those people like, oh, like I gotta watch the fucking college show,
Like I didn't really have any interest in that. So I think they're
doing it just right. What about right now? What about you Taylorfield?
No, I think they're doing it in a pretty good, pretty good format,
And I'd be curious to see how many people really latched onto that GENV
show and to see how many people are really uh, I guess are all
the fans of the boys where they all going to gen V? I feel
like some people probably would skip at all. I don't think so, I
don't. I'd like to see, I guess what the percentage of it all
is, but definitely not because I feel like there's tons of other shows that
have spinoffs where it's just I like the main stuff, right. Yeah,
And while it definitely a lot of spinoffs, they don't always have a lot
of like the main characters in there from the main baseline show. Well,
I definitely appreciate that it wasn't those characters dominating the spotlight in GENV. I
still appreciate that the additions and contributions GENV played to the main story. But
I think it's great because in this season you get maybe three mentions at the
most of what happened at the university and just that's it. The only thing
you need to know on the takeaway from that is, hey, there's this
virus while the kids are in Vought somewhere I don't know where. Maybe they'll
pop up because there is GENV is confirmed for a second season, isn't it.
Yeah, it's confirmed for a second season. Then two characters are popping
up. I can't remember their names right now. I know we talked about
them. What was the girl that's like the Gene Gray type of character and
the guy that was like he was, you know, locked up in crazy
and saw the puppets and everything like that. So I know there they make
an appearance. So yeah, anything else on Ryan too, because we're talking
about them and he thoughts on Ryan before we move all along from them.
Ah No, I don't think so, although I liked when he walked into
the kitchen and uh, Butcher was there, and then you get that little
dynamic with Homelander and Butcher. Homelanders just like, oh, yeah, what
six months, I'm gonna it felt very much like a Batman Joker kind of
conversation because he's like, oh, I'm gonna miss our miss us miss our
dance kind of thing. Yeah, and he's like, oh, we're never
gonna have that big finale, and I think they are going to get that
big finale. And if it's not Ryan killing him, it's Butcher making the
sacrifice play and doing something that's going to kill him, right, And yeah,
I liked Homelander being like this is in the Neverland ranch, like the
kids are safe here and no yeah so yeahs so he's so good at that.
I love Homeleander, how just grows an awkward he is when God,
she was in GENV and I always forget her name. She's running for vice
president right now? What's her character's name? Okay, I remember? You
mean when he's when he's like, don't get pregnant, Yeah, don't come
back pregnant now, and it's just like her nightmare of just like please leave
me alone. I will find out where she because she was in Victoria Newman
right she's running for vice president, which is like Sam and Kate, thank
you very much to bet Mike. Those were the two gen V people,
but yeah Newman, she was also in gen V. She was somebody that
I told you before, and I was rewatching the first time the head popping
thing. A character gets her head popped. The next scene was her on
the TV just like at this like doing something, and it's just like so
like from day one, they literally just showed you The next scene was Oh,
it's this person, but like it was like a new character that point.
I really enjoy her. What did hughe throw on her? Was it
like I I thought it was like at first I thought it was a virus
and I was like fuck too, and I was like, man, they're
just killing her off, like that's a big play. But I don't think
it was. It did melt her clothes though, so it wasn't just like
hot coffee or well that's the stuff they put under her eye drops, right,
So I think they were trying to like it was just acid. Okay,
so yeah, I guess so. And that was interesting too where I
like her as well because both Hughey presumably and then Butcher also just tried to
kill her in episode one, and I like that she's still trying to take
the approach that she does not want to be evil like Homelander. She wants
to do a truth truth. She wants to find a way for everyone to
work together. But at the same time, if it's gonna happen, she's
gonna want to She's gonna kill you, right like if some things don't go
her way. And yeah, Mike, you're saying asid as well. So
and that's why I thought when the clothes started to burn, but I wasn't
sure if it was because, like I said, when the first time,
I thought, oh, this is a version of the virus. And they
just fucking killed Newman right here, And that was really bold. So they
did the classic like, okay, she's a semi Homelander two where she's like
invincible or impenetrable, so you know that they made some for some comedic stuff.
I really like the actress that plays Newman. I think she does a
really good job. And the more and more I've seen her. I've just
like grown to like that character, so I'm curious which road they're gonna go.
They were. The big thing was one we could see her daughter sup
Power, which was just a fucking weird, like creature mind we have vampires
blade too, yeah, exactly, so we got to see that. So
her daughter is completely being trained in the way of like it's funny. That's
what I love about the Newman character. I feel like she wants people to
think she's better than Homelander, but I feel like she's just as worse.
She kills in some people. She's clearly trained her daughter just to kill at
will, you know. So it's just like she can think she has higher
ground, but she's not. What do you think is gonna happen? Because
I feel like the main crux of these episodes were obviously she wanted to work
with Hue Huy said no, and I thought she's being somewhat genuine of like
expressing that she'd want to work with them. She wanted to work with Butcher,
but then just got a butt whole picture that that didn't work out her
way. So now in episode three, he was Homelander saying that they want
them to win because another dynamic, I love that the president is completely against
her, like he knows she's a head popper and then knows that like Vaught's
really bad. But they're both like bullshitting each other. So it's like a
very fun dynamic where they're on the ticket together but the president's against her group
of people and she's against the Presiden's group of people. But Homelander is pretty
much pitching that you guys are gonna win the ticket. You know, you're
either the vice president or something might happen to the president where she would become
the president, and then you're gonna reveal your soup. Because the idea deal
is they're pretty much doing a Civil War storyline where they want superheroes to or
soups to register that they got powers right and just be on the docket and
also just be back in movies and not be on the streets like they really
want to have a Like in Civil War, they wanted, hey, we
have the Avengers, but they don't get to go unless we say they go
right, And that's what they want to do with soup. So what do
you think is gonna happen with new in this season? Is she gonna make
that jump where she's gonna say fuck everybody. Yeah, I am fully soups,
and she's gonna keep playing it down the middle because she was in gen
V and we have heard that gen V's gonna continue another spinoff. So I
still think it's a character that could also outlive the show and go on to
other things. But I could also see you get killed because she's killed lite
in some people. So what do you think about Newman so far after these
three episodes. I really like her character, and I feel like, obviously
it's platonic, but I feel like it obviously could have also been a little
bit more than that on her side of things with with Huey, So yeah,
no, I think I like their friendship and I like how sincere it
was, and yeah, Hughey just throwing that acid on her maybe me laugh.
But I think that she's still even though they're out to get her,
she still has that soft spot for him, especially at the end when Homelanders
just like beaming into the events, which is fucking terrifying, and and then
he gets blinded and it just fucking lasers the ice skater in half g Jesus
on ice or well no he he first got May the act cutter and a
half, yeah, cut in half, and then the Jesus he slips and
then gets killed, and then the Homelander actor, I think he got his
throat slipped by, Like yeah, like the guy was jumping over the game
and lifts his legs up and sliced his neck. Like five to ten people
are injured or die because like Homelander is just decided in this. There's like
a like the Dawn of the Seven on Ice show and that's where they decided
to meet, and that's where Huey and Mother's mistking some information and yeah,
they just unfortunate events happened. Homelander just pops off and unfortunately kills some more
innocent people. So again, what a liability Homelander is? You know?
And they what do they attributed to on the news after that? It is
like electrical accident. Yeah, it was pretty much just like an iron n
one where they're like, oh, it's a training expedition and you know,
we lost a jet. But yeah, of course Homelander didn't get any in
trouble. So but do you think she become she does the Homelander plan comes
out and says she's a soup. I think she's going to. But I
think the scene there where at the end there where it's it's important, is
that she was defending Huie, And what is it really for her own self
interest at that point because here he could release those documents. I mean,
I don't know, because I feel like she's gonna come out as a soup
anyways, which would then it would make any leverage shoe he has irrelevant,
right. I think the only thing she needs to worry about is what Homelander's
gonna do, because Homeland could kill her. But again, we don't know
if can I thought, we we don't know if she could pop Homelander's head,
right, Well, yeah we don't, so we don't know that.
In season three he just told her to try. I don't think she ever
did. But now with her being in penetral or impenetrable, like with the
gun and the acid, like, can he kill her? Like before we
just thought she was a normal lady with the head popping powers. But she's
like taking a bullet straight to head and nothing happens. I didn't know homelanders
stronger than a bullet, saying that we didn't know before she was impervious to
some things, so which Homelander is too right, So I really don't know.
I don't know. I give for the edge because that head popping ability
is quite good, which and at the same point, the same thing,
if she could pop his head, I guess it's good to have Homelander around,
but when he's being weird around with your daughter everything, it's like,
I feel like you could just pop Homelander's head and everything will be better.
Like I think Homelander being dead, he's like better for every single character.
The problem is when the bad guys need something done, they do like having
Homelander there. But I do think that it should be that she can't pop
his head because I feel like she would have just done it by now,
because he's too much of he's too much of a risk to just keep around,
you know. So yeah, like even when he just like called her
out and he like wanted to make a speech in front of everybody, She's
like telling him no, but he just forces the issue. He just like
has to have it his way, and he's trying to hook his daughter or
his son with her daughter, and he's being creepy about and everything. So
it's just like if I could pop his head, I'd be doing that.
I get I gotta get him out of there, you know. So I
genuinely thought. And they were having their meeting and he's he's getting pissed off
with the Deep. It's like Deep blow a train, Oh my god,
and like Deep walks over there, and what does he say. He says,
He's like sex is like some sort of a construct. Like he's like,
it's just a it's only a physical construct or something like that. But
he's trying to say, like it doesn't matter that. I didn't think that
was gonna happen because I just didn't think they were gonna go that far.
And I think I knew with the way Anthony Star was showing it, where
I thought, oh, he wants to see if they're gonna do anything,
like if they're gonna listen to him. But again that's the Homelander character being
such a hypocrite, where like the previous seasons, people weren't listening to him
and he hated that, and now when he has all these fels that just
do nothing but listen to him, he hates it. Like the Homelander of
character, which I think is a good thing, can well, they'll never
be happy because they also pointed out too, which I think was a good
thing. Where in season two I think it was we got that whole uh
the dream sequence of him lasering everybody, right, and that wasn't a thing.
And then season three when he laser that guy, I thought again,
I think it was kind of a Bay and swim, but I thought everyone
thought, Okay, this is now he's gonna pop off and just kill people.
But then Sage did make up a good moment of like, you annihilate
everyone, there's no one to build your statue, right, so it's almost
that thing. I thought that was another good plot armor for him and not
killing people because this character still does want to be loved and be a god
to people, so if he just takes them out, like he's just gonna
be a god to himself, you know. So I think that that was
good. So yeah, we'll see what's going on there and see what happens
with a newman and her daughter and Ryan and all that stuff. We'll see
if they go on a couple more play dates than anything. Butcher he's dying.
We only got a little bit of Jeffer Deine Wargan here. Jeffer Deen
Warren's trying to recruit him. I'm curious which way they're gonna go, but
I think they did it anyways, because season four or season three's whole arc
was about Butcher trying to realize he was being a ship person and he shouldn't
even be as violent as killing people. He will if he has to,
but he's making amends with Brian. He could have screwed over Huie like he
did many times, and he didn't, so I feel like there is like
a little bit of change. Does he still like shit on Starlight and say
you're not one of us? Yes, of course, because Butcher's Butcher.
But yeah, I'm curious more about what they're gonna do with Jeffrey Dean Morgan's
character and what he has to offer, or like if there's certain stuff in
gen v that they could tie to Jeffery Dean Morgan with the virus. I
really don't know, but Jefferdy Morgan's great. There was enough on this show,
but I'm hoping there'll be more going on. But yeah, I'm liking
this Butcher that it like we've got three seasons of him being a complete asshole.
Carbon's still very charismatic. He's still very funny. But I like this
as the Butcher because he has six months to live. He's trying his best
to make amends. But the same time, Jefferdine Morgan is like, this
is not the time for you make amends. We need like the fucking the
Butcher, like we need you because it's the worst time. So it's like
tough where for his his sanity. He wants to try and be a better
person, but then it's like now the world is saying, well, maybe
you shouldn't be that. So I like his conversation he had with Ryan too,
where it really opened up and had that hard to heart with him,
Yeah, which he says he's scared to die and everything, like scared to
die, scared to fail, like Ryan's mom is his wife too if he
doesn't successfully get Ryan into a safe place. He was having visions about two
that we didn't mention that he's just talking to Becca just randomly now, so
the the gen V or the temp fees making him a little crazy. So
yeah, there's things moving in his veins. Yeah, it's not going good
for him. Anything else on Butcher, Hmm, I think he wasn't do
he got kicked out of the group, right, we didn't talk about that,
which which to me wasn't a big thing. Well, no, remember,
he completely got fired from the group. Remember, and at the end
of season three when they he said he was sick, mother's milk got rid
of him. So which doesn't matter that much. I'll believe you though,
Oh yeah he did, but it does. America's Butchers still popped up where
they're going and Jeffer Deane Morgan's offering the job, so it's not like a
big deal. So uh yeah, let's take an ad break. We'll be
right back with the rest of them, and we're back Hue and Starlight.
I feel like Butcher and Starlight have a similar thing where they have trajectories and
they're doing things, but it's not like they're not too vital yet to the
plot. But Starlight was. She's about building the Starlighters, and she's now
put the Starlight caution back on just so because they think that could help.
They're trying to frame her. I did. I thought it was a little
out of nowhere when they gave her this backstory of her being like a like
a brat, bossy teenager with Firecracker because apparently while they're at some same superhero
pageant, Starlight created some rumor that the fucking Firecracker dag Anal with a bunch
of the judges, and like it was like, so, I don't know,
we'd never seen that with Starlight, So I don't mind them adding that
wrinkle, But I feel like I wish they would have hinted at her saying
stuff like that earlier, because I felt like it was always she was a
goodie two shoes and she got to the boys. But now it's like,
oh, well to get there, I maybe it was kind of an asshole
and it was good when she met with the other people that I'll tell about
the things they've done. But I feel like that's kind of out of nowhere,
But like, I'm enjoying it enough. I'm enjoying her and Hugh we
are together and hope they're not gonna fight again like in season four and break
up. And then with Hueye, we got introduced to her mom or his
mom. She's back because Scott, uh god, I almost called him Shanda
easy easy pay day for Simon peg in the bed. Yeah the whole season
he does nothing, but yeah he had a stroke and then we get this
whole backstory about his mom and she left because she was depressed and just feel
like she couldn't handle it. And it was kind of back and forth and
nothing that I thought was unpredictable. I thought it was still well written enough
and well acted. But yeah, what do you think about Huey or Starlight
or any thoughts if you do have them? Well, yeah, I mean
Huey's mom popping in there. Hue's just he seems very very emostly compromised in
the in this arc so far and Starlight, and he's gonna spread all over
the case too, right because he didn't answer his dad's phone because he was
on the case. It's been now there's many times where he's at the hospital
when they might need him. And yeah, yeah, and at least the
month thing I feel like they had to do before the series ended, right,
because they always established that his mom like left, like abandon him,
So I think it was good to get that out of the way now.
So yeah, no, it was in Starlight. I mean you already said
it. Just this alternate kind of attitude that she had when they were younger,
and the pageants and stuff. And yeah, she was not nice.
She said some mean things, So it's it's pretty good for you. Did
you buy that as like, oh, it's just stuff we didn't know,
or did I bought it as stuff we didn't know? Because I mean when
you look at the dynamic between her and her mom and how her mom treated
her and how her mom pushed for that win, so I think it makes
it make kind of makes sense for her character to have gone through a little
bit of a phase where she was just doing those sorts of things, but
obviously now she's bounced back and is not that person anymore. Yeah, anything
on Jeffer Deine Morgan as well, either because we didn't trouble that. But
I mean, last thing I've seen him in was Walking Dad, although there
was a movie who Is It? That was in there with him. He
plays a landlord and someone's renting Larry Swank and he's a creeper and everything that
obsessed list. But he's great, he's awesome. Yeah, And do you
think, like, do you think because he wants for cruit Butcher to do
some crazy stuff and I just feel like Butcher is gonna have to say no,
right because if he just goes back and starts doing crazy stuff again.
I feel like that kind of defeats the purpose of the character because they they
talked about like, oh yeah, you saved me by like killing fifty people,
and you know, he should name his son after me. Like I'm
just I'm also curious what they're gonna do with Jeffer Deine Morgan, how far
they want to push in what he does know, you know, m hmm
yeah, what else I'm trying to think other than Comico and Frenchiet Mother's milk.
I'm glad Todd got killed. Sucks for him. He was a big
Homelander fan, and they make them like a mean greed Homelander meets Todd and
these two other guys, gives this whole speech, makes it sound like it's
a big, like exclusive fan sighting, and then all of a sudden he's
like yeah, and I really thank you for your sacrifice, and then to
it's like no, like you're the one, dude, the sacrifice you're sacrificing
for us, Like oh no, right, I guess we can talk about
a train and here actually right now, and then what they decide and I
guess Black Noir and I guess d we got a few quick ones to hit
on, but uh, they do this thing where we talked about earlier.
There's a ride at the Starlight Homelander trial. They kill these people, including
Todd, which was fine because Tod was a piece of character, and then
drop the boyzer to make it look like the Starlighters supporter killed some people so
as even more heat on them. For me, with this scene, I
was really worried because when they gave them the bats. We have new Black
Noir, which we're gonna talk about, but they had a deep kill person
and then I thought a train was gonna kill person. Very happy because the
past two seasons they've been like toying with is he gonna turner? Is he
not? And I'm glad that we're finally getting a train like turning to the
good guy, because that was another thing I was like, if we have
a whole season of him going back and forth again, that's another thing where
it's just like, hey, I'm over the storyline. You've been doing it
now for two years. So it probably was more motivated by his brother has
now said no family member can talk to a train and says that he's a
liar and he's not a hero, so I like that he wants to win
his family back. He wants to do that. But I do think now
officially, I feel like a train can be redeemed. I think Deep is
like he's made his He's chosen Homelander and he's gonna be there. And I
hope the Deep in season five gets fucking killed in like an awful way because
he is an awful character. So I think even if it's Annie, just
like Fox him hop and stuff. But we did get to meet his octopus
Ambrosia, who is voiced by the Great Till the Wind. I didn't know
that about the hop but luckily Amazon, you pause it, you get the
IMDb and I knew the voice. I couldn't place it, but yeah,
I paused it, and uh yeah till his Window was great. But yeah,
what are your thoughts on Deep in a Train? Now? Another's Milk
recruited him, so we got back going on. Yeah, I like the
idea of a Trian coming around, and I mean they kind of alluded to
that in the previous season, but he ultimately was He always goes back,
He always like first, so I think that it shows a lot of depth
with this character too. When He's like, oh, you could have came
up and gotten into my business while my family was there when they were kind
of like scoping him out. So and he saved Hue from Homelander, which
to me is like a really good full circle of he did. This whole
thing started with him killing Hugh's girlfriend accidentally, right, So it's kind of
like a mea culpan away where Homelander had him dead to right and he saved
him. So yeah, yeah, do you think Zecha asked Atrian, probably
gonna do something to help Big with the boys, maybe a sacrifice. I
don't think so in this season. Maybe you could see season five, because
I do think that I still don't think it's a character that actually has to
die. I think there is a version of this character that makes a full
good guy turn, and it's really helping his community out, not just to
be like a black superhero for the me you like, really helping his community
out, winning his brother's love back, winning the respect from his nephew.
So I think there's a version where he doesn't have to die, but I
don't think it's at the realm of possibility. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah,
Ambrosia, you got anything on Brosia or the Will Ferrell cameo. I
mean, the Will Ferrell cameo was just I totally thought like is this an
origin story all of a sudden, like this is crazy, and yeah,
they always get me this. The camera is like cut and there's just like,
oh you know, what's that smell? What's that smell? I smell
it as a statue on your whatever, like your mantlepiece or yeah, so
Will Will Ferrell definitely sold that scene for me and Ambrosia. Yeah, that's
uh uh till the just a voice and that I didn't catch on until you
told me earlier today. That blew my mind. Which the Deep said that
he had got rid of the octopus, but he did not. He's he's
relationship, wants their relationship. He's calling calling Ambrosia babe, but she wants
to run away. Let's go the case like oh my my cousins have a
place or I can't remember where somewhere. But yeah, it's just man,
it's a dynamic and it's funny because when what did he say? Like Deep's
in the elevator with Ashley and Sages in there too, and he's like I
got an idea actually, like what if I show up to Ryan's save,
Yeah, it's like, oh you what is and what does Ashley say?
Oh you want to show up to this like kids doing this thing after you're
convicted of Yeah, p sex sheality peda has him on the b She Reality
List or whatever it is. So yeah, causing some problems, which that
was another fun scene too. Before the save, they showed us like them
acting out the save and rehearsing it, which that clicked off Ryan too,
like why are we rehearsing saving someone? And homelands like, oh, it's
just to get you practice, but really he's starting to see how manufactured the
stuff is too, So I thought that was a good example. The super
Mix says I'll never fully forgive a tran forty in the first episode. Do
you mean just running over who Hugh's girlfriend? As bas it sounds, I
can forgive him because at least in last season when we watch it, he
did apologize and he did like like he was an asshole, and he didn't
apologize for a while and he just like was nonchalant, but he did apologize
and he did like just say like he he genuinely made a mistake, like
he wasn't trying to kill and he wasn't like I think he he was hurt
by by a little bit, but because he was just so arrogrant cocky back
then. But I think he's finally starting to realize how much he has fucked
up. So I think I can forgive him, depending how how much good
stuff he does. And then I think finally unless yeah, chat throughout anything
else, because we'll probably be ending it here soon once we talk about Comiko
and Frenchie. So I don't know how to feel about this. I I've
said this before last season honestly again that I think almost every other than season
one when they found Comiko. I think that's her name, right, Camiko,
yeah, Mkomiko Yeah, other than season one when they found her in
the Powers and then she had the brother and everything like that. Each season
I'm kind of just like, they're always the lowest tier for me. And
it's a weird thing where last season they did kiss and he apologized and she
goes, no, I like that, it wasn't a bad kiss, and
then later on in the season they said they loved each other, but it
was bigger than just like a boyfriend girlfriend. It was like a family love.
But still down a way where I thought she was saying she was like
his brother. But then when we pick up this season, it's fully you
know, like, hey, I know you love me and I love you,
but this is never gonna happen. So they right away say, hey,
that's the only happen. And then friend she, which they did say
many other seasons that he had been with the dated men before Seth's not new.
But then we just meet a random guy that's worked with Annie that's like
his love interest now and I don't know for me, And now they have
Comico going to do anger management stuff. That's where I do appreciate that these
episodes are an hour and we'll see with the Comico stuff, we'll see with
the Frenchy stuff. But both these storylines I kind of go, I don't
know if I need them. I feel like I know them well enough so
far, and I still feel like the three seasons enough getting us to the
point where they were gonna end up together, and it feels like they just
dropped it kind of out of nowhere and decided, hey, we're going this
like these one way street with Camiko and Frenchie. But then they went two
ways and it feels like almost they wanted to fill screen time and if they
were just in love together, well that's there together, right, so now
they separate them. So I don't know. I like the idea that Frenchie's
with this guy that he's lying about that he's I guess killed his family,
so that's gonna be a fucked up revelation when that comes out. But I'm
not two in though that. I'm still scratching my head a little of I
feel like they maybe did too much then in the previous seasons to make us
think these two were going to be a couple. So I don't think it's
bad here, but it's definitely Both storylines are the ones I'm least apart like
least and I don't like I said, I'm not hating them, but I'm
least interested in Kamiko will see maybe with this girl that we meet, that's
gonna be something. I didn't like the scene where he was high on drugs
and Camiko was fighting he is seeing like the that stuff going on, because
I felt like they had just done that in the gen V with the whole
with what was his name Sam seeing like the puppets, right, So I
feel like it was kind of a similar scene to that, but just lesser
than So, but where are you with the Comico and Frenchy? I always
thought that their relationship is progressing to the point where they were going to be
a thing together, but clearly that's not the case here because Kimiko is telling
Frenchy just to like just to go for it and just you know, have
have sex with with what is it Colin? Yeah? An episode two?
There? Was it? Episode two? Or one? There? Or was
it? Where was the first? Right when when they ki when he saves
them, they kissed, which I thought was very random too. Yeah,
I didn't like. I didn't like that. It's like they're in the middle
of this Rod and I get, but it's not like completely life or death,
so it was felt a little random. But Mike, I mean kiss
the nail on the head here? Where this has happened almost every season other
than like I said, season one. I wish it to make more effort
to bring them the name plot instead of always having their separate subplot and that
always happens. Where last year was Camico lost the powers and she was trying
to figure that out, and she kept wanting to sing and she had musical
thoughts in season two she lost her brother and it was like she didn't trust
the boys and she didn't trust friend she and she wouldn't teach them sign language,
like they're always off their side, and that's where I was almost finally
being a romance. But yeah, I guess it's ah, this is the
route we're going. And French she's having some also questionable thoughts about the hit
the path he's been on. So yeah, anything else that we haven't hit
on from the show or episode? Did we talk about Black Noir? Yeah?
Black Noir? Is he even a superhero? Like does the guy even
have superpowers? I think he's just an actor. I think so too,
which is like such a good way. Where episode one they treat him like
Black Noir. He's not saying anything, only a Noir. He's bouncing around
until the very end when they beat the guys up the hammers, He's like
what the fuck and then like he starts speaking and we just learned. Then
he's like he wants some more about his character. Everybody fucking hates him.
They cannot like from a train to Homelander. So I'm enjoying this. I'm
looking really forward to the time where they get in a real fight and they
gotta fight the boys. And because I don't even know if the boys would
know that Black Nor is dead, right, they weren't around it knows,
right, that's the point of this actor. So well, I would assume
Ashley a Train and the Deep nocause after he killed them in season three,
he put his helmet down in front of them all as like an intimidation,
so they must know it's an actor. But yeah, so the world's gonna
at one point one of these boys are gonna think, like and he's gonna
go fight Black Noir, like ready for this fight and he's gonna be nobody.
But yeah, what are you thinking about this? Uh, the actor
replacement for Black Noar. Yeah, I quite enjoy it. I really genuinely
thought, oh, Black MOR's back, like he survived you. I did
at the start, and I got very excited. I thought, Okay,
this is much more funnier because when they beat those people with the bats,
says, yeah, what the fuck was that like? And he keeps throwing
up these questions throughout the show, like I'm just trying to really understand the
character, like like Black Nor's room is like what did he say? It's
a karate dojo, but black More didn't know karate, Like yeah, something
like that. Yeah. When they're doing the audition too, they're like,
Blackmore, you gotta take down like your entrance because when he comes in,
he's like fucking somersaulting all over trains, like take it down a notch.
Yeah. So it's just it's funny that he's like trying to be a superhero
but not what Black Noir is. And yeah, I can just feel like
Homelander wishes this black More couldn't talk again because he just seems oh he does,
because like when they're in the meeting right and he's talking to Ashley,
he's like, I'm just trying. You need to figure out this character that
I'm playing. Yeah, Omlaner is like, nor, shut the fuck up.
Yeah, it's it's I love that they just didn't choose to also kill
him off like may that they had an actor a play, so I think
there'll be some fun situations there. And again I'm I'm very excited when he
bumps into like a butcher or an Annie, like when that if something happens
and they think it's like the real Noir who is like very talented and it's
just this fucking like scrub guy, you know. So I'm I think it's
a fun little bit there. I did think it was gonna be like a
super powered person in there, but I don't think it is. I think
it's just just an actor. So I think so too. Yeah, we'll
see how it goes. Like we said, the cliffhanger this week was ending
on Homelander deciding he needs to go back to where he was started. I
don't know, you have any theories because I got nothing. Do you got
any theories of why he feels he needs to go back there? I got
no idea. Yeah, so I'm not sure. Also, maybe it's just
it could be just be internally, but I really don't know. So maybe
something to his parents. But we'll see. We'll be back next week with
episode four of the Boys, and we probably a lot of people boring