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Well, here we go. Happy
mark cast Monday here following the disappointing needless

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to say a CFL Week eleven,
I will say, had the Mariners not

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swept the Astros at home, at
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I'm about skip Bayless here, I
was late getting on. I was about

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skip Bayless. Here. I got
my trash can, I got my BC

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Lion's hat. So we're getting close
here, not quite because the Mariners.

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Thank god, Josie alle tb being
thrown out. Josie, this was how

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great my weekend was before last night, josielle Toba. But your biggest heel

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in baseball right now, hits his
two thousandth career hit, goes for two.

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Kade Marlow, our rookie, throws
him out a second. That's where

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I was at, and then this
whole weekend fell apart. Jason, how

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are you doing. I'm doing good. Raid. Obviously I went to two

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of the games this weekend, so
it was a great weekend from that perspective.

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But just wish one of my teams
one. You're getting to the point,

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yeah, we're running out of options
here. Evan's back at school at

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LSU. Evan how are you doing. Yeah? Good, It's been a

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busy weekend for me, you know. But it was an exciting slate of

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games, and I think we have
a lot to talk about, not just

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with the actual games themselves, but
I think with some of the circumstances around

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them. There was a lot of
interesting CFL news this week to cover.

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So excited to get into that as
usual. Yeah, we have a Jason

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and I were with Naylor. Evan
was driving back across country getting back to

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school, so it didn't have Evan
on the Thursday show. I would just

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say in all seriousness because I Farhan
you know, was doing his post game

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and Vernon talking about because Vernon took
full credit for the loss and all of

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that. But I said, these
when BC is sitting here in November with

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the thirty one to thirteen loss at
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this is the game, Like I
want you to circle and look back

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on, like, these are winnable
games that you need to go in.

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You need to take care of business. Where are the doughnut boys? We

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have Jake della Galla running around the
field, I mean looking like Patrick Mahomes

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out there. I mean, this
is crazy. I just didn't understand.

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I watched the second half we were
going to my mom's for dinner, and

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that finally I'm like, I gotta
pull this game up. I gotta see

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what the heck is going on?
So disappointing. I don't know why our

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kryptonite playing away from you know,
BC plays or whatever. Jason, what

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did you make I know you were
getting on the train back from Ottawa,

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what did you make of? Just
to me, it felt like a really

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big collapse last night at the BC. Yeah, I mean like we've seen

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a regression in recent weeks from that
BC defense, which is certainly concerning.

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Obviously, the game a couple of
weeks ago against Winnipeg and then this week

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against the scatch one very disappointing to
see that. But I think that they

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had some untimely turnovers that gave Saskatchwe
short fields and that was a big factor

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in how they were able to convert
those into touchdowns and ultimately get enough points

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to beat BC. I think if
these teams played ten times, I think

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BC wins probably nine times. But
I think we saw that one time just

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the last night, and I don't
know. I mean, like I listened

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to the postgame and I hear Rick
and he's in the Hey, I know

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you guys wanted to beat yourselves up
right now, don't worry about it.

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It's like I would worry about it, like this is a pattern. Now,

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this is a pattern not being able
to perform on the road, like

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you know, Vernon, I don't
blame all that. And he got beat

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up again. You know you need
to be able to protect them. Yeah,

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James says, here Va took some
hard, dirty hits. Evan,

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what did you make of this because
we're on the VA you know train.

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Absolutely, it was an interesting game
and I think this game to me was

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honestly more surprising than the Edmonton winn
and walls to get into that later,

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but there was a lot of people
predicting that Edmonton was gonna win that game

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against Hamilton. Didn't see a lot
of people that were saying, you know,

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Saskatchewan was gonna beat BC, And
that's kind of what I'm getting at

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here. Definitely an upset game,
but I think BC, you know,

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personally, I mean, Saskatchewan played
very well and Jake Dela Galla, you

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know, I was very high on
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his performances have definitely swayed a little
bit. They haven't exactly been consistent,

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but this was clearly the best doubting
that he's had in a long time.

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And you know, just to see
that, I mean, BC played well

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in this game. It's I find
it interesting how every time BC loses,

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like I go back to that Toronto
game, you know, it's not because

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Vernon Adams, you know, doesn't
play well or I mean well, in

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that case, he had a lot
of turnovers, but like in this game,

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you know, or both of those
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Toronto and then the one against Saskatchewan
here because he didn't play in the Winnipeg

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game he was injured. You know, both times he's thrown for like four

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hundred yards, you know, three
touchdowns, like he's still you know,

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putting the work in. And when
I looked the stats initially because I didn't

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get a chance to watch much of
this game, I did watch most of

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the others, but this game in
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I thought, how did BC lose? I'm looking at this, I'm like

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running, you know, four hundred
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doing his thing. Now I noticed
that they didn't have much of a run

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game, which again is always a
red flag. But yeah, then I

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looked over at Saskatchewan and I saw
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decent on the ground, and that
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I think what's really important here from
the rough Riders perspective, because I think

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we know about BC already, we
know what they're capable of. Yes,

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they've had some struggles on the road, but we still believe in them.

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I still believe they will be in
that West Final again against Winnipeg. I'll

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say that every week until it actually
happens, or maybe it won't, who

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knows, but I'm pretty confident that
it will. What's most important for Saskatchewan

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here is now they're back at five
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most importantly, because Winnipeg sneaked by
Calgary, Calgary is now two games behind.

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So we've been talking about this,
you know, kind of race in

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the West between Calgary Saskatchewan, you
know those two spots. Now Saskatchewan is

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finally pulling away a bit. They
have a you know, they're two games

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ahead or whatever. You know,
they have that advantage, and I think

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that's going to go a long way. And you know, personally, I

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liked what I saw from Dolah Galla. I think you know him. I

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mean, what, we'll see what
happens with Mason fine, obviously, but

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I wouldn't have a problem rolling with
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proved himself took down the top team
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even though Winnipeg is officially ahead of
the standings. And if you're a Saskatchewan

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fan right now, I think you
should just be happy that you're back at

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five hundred with all the turmoil that's
happened the season, you know, And

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I think Jason had message your group
last night after I house and having my

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panic attack. You know, Hamilton
coming in next week, you know,

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is that it made good? Is
that it made good for BC? I

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don't know. I mean, I
I've lost faith in them in terms of

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just I don't know if it's if
it's a locker room thing. You know,

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they talk Ryan Phillip tonight. You
know, I shot Ryan's wedding and

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like I know Ryan very well,
Like you know, he's got the guys

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that but I just don't know what
it is. If it's just a little

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bit more relaxed locker room. And
we got Rick kind of like whatever,

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guys like we gotta do. They
need to show up. And Winnipeg,

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I just feel like when they show
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like a championship quality caliber team.
And just in terms of like these are

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the games. Yeah, you had
the Flute game and like you know,

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with Emonton was up twenty two zero. They didn't worry. They came down

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the field. Look what happened when
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Oh my god. You know,
Dan like we're freaking out. We

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gotta you know, we gotta do
all this and do all that. Dave

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fell behind, We gotta throw all
these we gotta make it down the field,

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you know, kind of making things
worse. I just feel like there's

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something going on in that mentality right
now in terms of that that that team,

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Jason, you have thoughts on that, Just it feels like something something's

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not clicking here. Yeah. I
think you brought up a good point a

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few minutes ago about how they're struggling
on the road. I think that because

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that game next week's in BC,
I think I am fully expecting a big

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bounce back, because as little faith
as you have in BC right now,

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I can assure you that I have
less face in the Hamilton Tiger Cats at

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this point. So I think that
BC will get a big win there.

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But I think, like you said, you know, when you go back

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at the end of the season and
Winnipeg's ahead in the standings, this will

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be the game that are one of
the games that you circle and say that

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this is, uh, why BC
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I think they really do need to
host that West Final against Winnipeg. It's

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gonna be very hard for them to
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As we saw last year, this
is gonna like I've seen this movie.

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I've seen this movie. I went
to the Semis where we beat the pants

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off Calgary wasn't even the game and
then we go like I've seen this whole

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movie before. I lived through this, and I said, I'm not going

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to go to Winnipeg, YO,
Because last year I was seeing like got

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do I do I go? And
I thought to my head, I thought,

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I'm not gonna go just to watch
BC loose and they got I mean

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they kept it close and Nathan played
his hard out, but he was coming

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back. It was never quite right. We had a couple of questions here.

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Yeah, Louise says, you're good
to see you, Evan, congratulations

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on your new new ifl direct your
role there. I need to start calling

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you the director more here. I
know that was said. I was going

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to do that. Lewis had a
question for Jason, does the it We'll

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get to the Taie Cats, But
in terms of like turning Edmonton around,

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are you feeling better on their stock
right now? I definitely do. Obviously,

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it's it's a lot easier to feel
more confident about them coming off their

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first win of the season. But
I think the key will be breaking that

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home losing streak next week against Ottable, which is as good of an opportunity

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as they've had to break that streak. If they can win that game get

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their second win of the season.
I think they have a back to back

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against Calgary the next a couple of
weeks after that, so I think that

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those are winnable games as well for
them, so they could go on a

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little bit of a winning streak here. I think they can get right back

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into it and then, Evan,
do you think does this turns this scatch

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win around the Are you looking differently
at them? Because if people are saying

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in the comments like we're not giving
them the riders and have credit here,

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we're kind of BLAMINGBC. You know, we'll see right now, they're definitely

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wild card team. You know,
they have a lot of questions themselves.

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You know, even at five hundred
kind of getting back into the playoff race.

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You know, I don't know,
like they're well, I need a

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couple more games of this type of
performance from them before I'm really confident.

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Maybe given another couple of weeks.
I feel like I say that a lot.

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You know, I will just give
it a couple more weeks. But

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it's true, like this team,
you know, has had a lot of

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inconsistency, and you know, I've
pointed out a lot of flaws about them.

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I still think they're a good football
team. They have a lot of

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good pieces there, and you know, I find it a bit interesting that

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they have jumped Calgary this much.
Again, I was pretty high on Calgary

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and now that's starting to splip on
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no, I mean, look,
I think Saskatchewan you know right now they're

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kind of you know, they're reaching
one of those peaks again, and I

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hope that they can ride on that
for a bit, just because we're kind

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of at a pivotal point in the
season, like, you know, they

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can hold this for now, but
there's still enough time left to where other

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teams can you know, come in
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the season. I thought it was
funny here. I had this tweet Paul

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that Michael Ball is he was under
the weather yesterdays they were the Riders were

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battling through adversity on all fronts here, even even Michael Ball, the voice

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of the Rough Brothers, battling through. But yeah, back to five hundred.

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He had tweeted out before the game, like, I think I think

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the Riders take this, and obviously
whatever I said, I think I'll think

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BC by two touchdowns, Like I
didn't even think it was going to be

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closed. Remarkable, just kind of
like he said, if this is why

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I don't do sports betting is because
I would even throw my head through a

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windillyland faster than that. Dorothy's credit. I did tell her last night.

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I say, man, DC just
kind of craft about here. Against the

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Riders, she goes, or those
are the green people, so Dorothy knows

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Dorothy's even track, Dorothy knows the
Riders. I want to get into the

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game itself, Jason, I know
you were seeing the first part coming back

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on the train. What did you
make of just the performance here? And

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I got a couple of notes to
pull up well. I think one of

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the biggest surprises for me was how
Saskatch one's defensive line really pushed around BC's

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offensive line in this one. They
really really struggled in this one. I

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think that on top of that,
they had several penalties. Kent Perkins don't

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mean to call anybody out, but
he had three huge penalties in this one,

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especially in the second half. The
last one, I think when they

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were driving to complete that comeback,
I think they would have completed that comeback

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and took in the lead on that
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was if they didn't take a key
holding penalty that would have set them up

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on a third and one if they
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that was very disappointing. I think
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in this game. And like you
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getting chewed up by an inexperienced quarterback
in Jake Dalla Gala. Yeah, I

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have here and I don't want to
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top of the show, and then
we just had in such a rants here

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going into it. But we got
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the NFL for talking about one of
the far Hans quote tweets about Nathan Works.

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I hope, I hope the CFL
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I thought we had fair use to
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clip, so hopefully we're fine with
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Dellaga, I mean we've seen him
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behind Mason him find come out here. Were you impressed with how he was

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performing? Oh? Definitely, I
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caught on. I've always been somewhat
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he hadn't quite sold me yet.
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it has been very hard I think
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and part of that is just because
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So yeah, I mean, you
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still has some you know, things
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was with the I think the Bengals. I want to say, maybe it's

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been two years now, twenty twenty
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year two in the CFL. Don't
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have probably looked at that, but
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Galla for now is I do believe
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for the rest of the season,
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and you know, the more he
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able to fit into this league.
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And of course havn't spot on it
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course havn't knows exactly what's going on
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yeah, I had commenting a far
on talking fortunate even to be down

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eleven at half. It just felt
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this kind of the game winning drive
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big drop and what was it deep
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liked where he had one drop,
but he had the thing too where he

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kind of did the Tyreek Hill with
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that was kind of funny. Oh
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the final play where they where they
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of a semi hail Mary. I
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special teams go there? Jason,
I thought that was odd at the end

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of the game where we're like,
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the way. I have no faith
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yards here. Well, unfortunately,
I actually missed the last like two minutes

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of the game. That was right
when my train was arriving in Hamilton's so

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I missed that's the end of it. But I was watching with my data

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on the train, like watching the
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Unfortunately missed the final couple of minutes
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chat Evan read my disagree with me, but that was one of the VA's

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best games ever, gritty and took
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Why did you make a VA?
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again, even in a loss,
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know, and he you know,
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Maybe that's the reason why they're in
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and fifty five yards, that's a
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even in a CFL game. And
you look at I mean again, you

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look at the run game. It
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rush or two carries for twenty four
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plays a role. But I mean
continuing, like still continuing week after week

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to just find his receivers. I
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thing. And Alex Hollins has really
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was last weekend in Calgary. And
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Lucky I think is a fan favorite
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gotten to one of those games,
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it's nice to see him get worked
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like we hadn't called his name out
that much this year because there's so many

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other guys that are playmakers. I
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career game last week against Calgary there
at BC Place. So you know,

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again, even in a loss,
like you just I never you know,

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Vernon is really he's really exceeding.
You know, he's really exceeding. I

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think he's exceeded everybody's expectations and he
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doubt casted upon the team. And
that's why I am still confident in this

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team's ability now given their struggles on
the road, and this kind of pertains

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to you know, this is going
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but I think just in general,
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bigger deal now if BC hosts the
West five as compared to them going to

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Winnipeg, because I've been saying this, you know, they're gonna be in

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the West Final. They're gonna be
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their struggles on the road that have
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be more of a consistent trend now
than I believe before. I'm looking at

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that now like, Okay, well
maybe if it's at home, they're gonna

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have a much higher chance of winning
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mean, yeah, home field advantage. You could say that about every team,

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but I don't know, maybe maybe
this is something we're discovering about BC

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that didn't really know before. I'm
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at home. I don't think they're
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It's it's interesting because in CFL it's
almost backwards, like there's so many teams

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that can win away, but then
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it just it doesn't work out.
I mean, you looked at Ottawa

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and you know they finally broke the
streak, and then Edmonton you know obviously

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hasn't broken theirs yet, but they
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for that. Will get into that
later, but no, ultimately, I

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think you know BC, you know
with Vernon at quarterback that there's no doubt

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to be had there and there's really
I'm and I've always seen him make you

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know, there's been very few mistakes
I've seen him make this year, and

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I mean it's it's safe to call
him a top quarterback of the league,

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even in a loss. Yeah,
it's just it's frustrating when you look at

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the stall and like he said,
here thrown for four hundred and fifty five

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yards, and how is my Zell
like seven carries for fifteen Like the scotch

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weren't shutting that down. Like,
It's just it's crazy to me here that

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we couldn't figure this out. I
don't know, I'm kind of been the

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last Chase said anything else on this
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down the Lions, but obviously this
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Yeah, I wanted to give a
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specifically their wide receivers stepped up and
made some huge catches in this one.

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Samuel Mls continues his breakout season after
being a first round pick last year.

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Jared Stearns, I think it is
I always bets up that first name,

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but he had a big game in
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Baker back in the lineup as well, So I thought the receivers played a

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huge role in this one Versus scratch
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able to come out Victoria. You
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catch there at the end and get
the first down as well. And they

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went and that went to review and
everything, and I'm sitting there. I

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got my phone out, that's sitting
there kind of look and see them why

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it was like, is that a
catch? It was good? I give

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them credit. I just like I
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Where's my standings here? You know, is it Saskatchewan this year versus you

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know, as opposed to Calgary coming
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it's like rinse and repeat. I
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maintained a little bit of this momentum
than to have such kind of a roller

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coaster here. Let's get to the
next game. I'll get it pulled up

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here. Jason was at this one. We had the scattering reports from two

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different games this weekend, the Montreal
at Ottaway Red Blacks. This right finished

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in the season. Jason, what's
going on here? Thrilling fashion at the

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end of the game. Yeah,
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my first time at the Autawo Red
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that it was an excellent stadium experience
first of all. But I think that

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the biggest takeaway I have from this
game, despite the dramatic comeback, I

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think the best team won this game
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and now Ottawa was able to build
that lead, they came as a result

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of a couple of big turnovers from
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and it set up Ottawa with very
short fields and they were able to capitalize

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that and turn them into touchdowns.
But overall, Ottawa's offense didn't get much

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going in this game, and Montreal
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the second half when they stopped making
those mistakes. So I thought that was

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really impressive from Caleb Evans and the
fact that he was able to grow up

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before our eyes in that second half
after having a brutal first half. Like

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I said, so, I think
that it was pretty sweet for him to

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get the win over his former team, a team that probably could have given

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him the shot to be their first
full time starting quarterback, but ultimately they

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threw him to the curb and he
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Yeah, because he was certainly involved
earlier is so, what's the deal

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with Cody? Is he still is
still a thumbissue? Is it's still the

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kind of week to week Yeah,
I think that he's he was dressing for

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this game was the third quarterback.
I think that's become a trend in the

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CFL, where like if they're somewhat
close to returning, they often dressed the

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third quarterback. I think it has
something to do with, like, you

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know, the one game injured list
kind of thing, and maybe from a

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cat perspective, but I'm not too
sure, But yeah, I think he's

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pretty close to returning because he was
dressing in this one but ultimately didn't see

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any action because spoiler alert. I've
been trying to get friend of the Show

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back on the show for a while
here Kelly for jar though, and there's

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been a lot of like, wow, he hasn't played or he was hurt

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and it's a short week and we're
all traveling as like we've been working on

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I've been trying to get Cody back
on. We're gonna get the stars align

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there with Montreal. So working on
the Evan what did you make Caleb Evans

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coming out being the hero ball here
three hundred and thirty three yards two two

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TV's with two interceptions. Yes,
very exciting game and one of my major

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takeaways from this one was, you
know, Caleb Evans he could stick around,

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I think in this league for a
long time, you know, definitely

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as a backup and perhaps as a
fill in starter what need be. You

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know. I look at a guy
like maybe Matt Schiltz just kind of bounced

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around now between you know, Montreal
and then Hamilton. I kind of see

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Caleb Evans and that role like where
you know, you might not be a

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permanent starter, but you can stick
around a long time in this league if

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you just kind of find your role
on your niche and you're in the right

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place at the right time. Caleb
Evans is a playmaker, you know.

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And I've watched this guy, you
know before. I think he played in

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Ottawa at one point, so this
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I've watched him a couple of times
before, watch tape things like that.

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You know this guy really, I
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dare I say that, you know, he could start over Cody Fajardo,

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And I shouldn't say that if Reid's
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But you know, again, like
he got the job done, and maybe

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it wasn't in beautiful fashion. It
took again a rough first half and then

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he kind of had to make that
up in the second half and you know,

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late game heroics and all that.
You know, so maybe it wasn't

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exactly perfect. It wasn't like a
Jagdole gallatype performance that we saw on Saskatchewan,

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but there was a lot there.
There was a lot there to work

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with and there's no doubt that he
elevated this offense and you know, gave

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him a win that I don't know
if they I don't know if they needed

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it. I mean, yeah,
like look at you know, they it's

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good to always win. Your your
goal is to win. It's football,

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it's sports. But you know,
like if you look at the standings,

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I mean, you know, Montreal
is pretty comfortable right now, like they

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kind of have a bit of breathing
room. So if they lost this game,

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I mean, you know, considering
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it wouldn't matter too much. But
either way, you know, they

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still made a statement and outside of
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You know, Austin Mack continues to
impress week after week. I'm pretty sure

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he's locked in his spot as an
all start at this point. Tyler snead

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of came back, he had that huge

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game against Toronto and the kind of
went quiet. It seems like on his

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best days, you know, he's
he's really good at scoring, you know,

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multiple touchdowns in this game on the
receiving end. And then the other

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one I wanted to point out a
player that I haven't really talked about this

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year was Herjie Maala had a big
play in this game. You know,

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Herjie. He was in the CFL
and then tried his luck with the Breakers

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in the USFL. He went down
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Tide Cats, and didn't work out
for them down there, so they came

408
00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.200
back up to the CFL. And
you know, it's been a pretty quiet

409
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.480
year for her Ji, for my
understanding, and for Richie too in Hamilton.

410
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.400
Kind of both quiet years for guys
that are coming, you know,

411
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.039
back from a USFL attempt. But
it was nice to see him, you

412
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.759
know, have a have his moment
in this game and then we'll just switching

413
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.799
over to the Ottawa side here for
a minute. I honestly don't have a

414
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:49.440
ton of notes on Ottawa. Like
Jason said, you know, they at

415
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.359
the end of the day, you
know, even if it took a big

416
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.759
comeback in the second half, the
better team still won. You know,

417
00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.440
this wasn't you could consider it a
choke job by Ottawa. But given the

418
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.319
way that they built the lead,
you know, they You'll see this a

419
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:07.000
lot where where teams, you know, they will they will build a lead,

420
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.440
you know, off unconventional ways,
so outside of you know, big

421
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.640
offensive drives and things like that,
things that aren't sustainable, and then people

422
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.720
are surprised when a team comes back, because it's a lot easier to come

423
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.759
back when you've just made a few
simple mistakes, in my opinion, than

424
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.799
when the opponent is again putting together
these you know, long, stingy drives

425
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:32.039
and the defense won't let up.
So yeah, overall, I mean this

426
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.400
was a very you know again thrilling
game. You know, Montreal I think

427
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:40.960
had fifteen points in the fourth quarter, and yeah, I mean, but

428
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:42.759
but at the end of the day, like you know, I wasn't surprised

429
00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.880
that Montreal was able to come back
and win this. I mean, it

430
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.000
wasn't a guarantee, but you know, when it happened, I was like,

431
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.960
well, that's good, because Montreal
I think deserve to win. Is

432
00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:55.559
what I'm getting at. And the
ultimate point here that I'll wrap up with

433
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.799
is, uh, you know,
Auto has been losing a lot of momentum.

434
00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:00.880
I mean we talked about them couple
of weeks ago, you know,

435
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.680
having all this you know pull and
it was like, you know, crumb

436
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.759
sanity or whatever you want to call
it. But now that's kind of all

437
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.599
gone away, and they're kind of
back to this, you know place again

438
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.559
where you lost those games to Hamilton. You're at the bottom of the East,

439
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:15.799
Like things really don't look that great. And we'll get into Hamilton later

440
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.880
because I have my own thoughts about
them in their position, and personally I

441
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.559
think they're worse off. But I'll
get to why I think that. But

442
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.200
just looking at Ottawa, I mean
I don't I don't know, I think

443
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:32.559
yeah, I mean I believe in
them, and I like Bob Dice for

444
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.079
the most part. You can question, you know, some of the things

445
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:37.880
that he's done in recent weeks from
the coaching perspective, but I like Bob

446
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.839
Dice, like the culture they have
there. I just think, you know,

447
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.519
they still need another year, as
sad as that is, like,

448
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.000
I still, I don't know,
even with all this stuff that's happened,

449
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:49.319
and you know, the big roller
coaster, all the ups and downs,

450
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.200
like, you know, they could
still win a couple more games, but

451
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.079
I definitely don't see him as a
playoff team, and they're getting further away

452
00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.640
from that each week at this point. Yeah, Ottawa feels very cold right

453
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.400
now, and I want to get
Jason's thoughts comparing them to the tie Cats.

454
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.039
I will just say on Caleb Evans
to give him a little credit.

455
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.440
I remember when I had Tim Kapper
with the Flight Decks podcast on when I

456
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.519
think we were doing the AFL stuff
or whatever, and I said, well,

457
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.079
you know, how how are you
feeling about Cody and everything? He

458
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:18.359
said, I feel great about all
of our quarterbacks. He said, I

459
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.480
feel good even if Cody's not.
Caleb's good and I can't remember their third

460
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:23.680
string guy, but Tim said,
no, I think, you know,

461
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.839
I think we're in the solid position
right now, and I don't know,

462
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.920
it just feels like they're really kind
of putting together a cohesive team here.

463
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.720
I like, you know, standbacks, I always solid, you know,

464
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:34.319
didn't have a you know, a
huge game, but always good. And

465
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.799
we've talked before, like I said
about kind of the receiving corn, the

466
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.400
Austin max if everything of the world
Jason in terms of like it does feel

467
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:47.279
like Ottawa has lost all of the
momentum at head, Yeah, it does.

468
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:52.240
But I mean it's really it all
comes down to the playoff race right

469
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.759
now, because you know, none
of the teams in the playoff races are

470
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.640
really pulling ahead. I guess it's
with the Scatchwan pulling ahead a two game

471
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.680
lead here, it really comes down
to the tie Cats, Red Blacks and

472
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:07.119
stamp Peters for that that last playoff
spot right now in the CFL as of

473
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.519
right now. And I think that
the Red Blacks, I mean a lot

474
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.039
of people will compare them to the
tie Cats, but I think they're actually

475
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:17.359
more comparable this season to the stamp
Peters because they've been in a lot of

476
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.799
close games where they've had opportunities to
win games, whereas the tie Cats have

477
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.680
like they've been blown out when they've
lost, they haven't won, like they

478
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.960
haven't been able to be competitive with
a lot in games, and I think

479
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:37.599
that Calgary and the Red Blacks have
really you know, down the stretch,

480
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.480
they haven't been able to you know, close games out. So I think

481
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.480
at the end of the day,
I think it's gonna come down to those

482
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.920
three teams, and one of those
teams is going to grab that last playoff

483
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:51.039
spot somehow. And I think,
you know, maybe six wins gets it

484
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.359
done this year in the CFL.
That would be you know, probably one

485
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.599
of the worst teams ever to make
the playoffs in the CFL. I would

486
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:04.519
say circle here, you know,
maybe sixty five pm Pacific here on Sunday

487
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.039
night next week. If if Ottawa
loses the Edmonton at home, I do

488
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.160
think their season is about over,
except for the fact that you got Hamilton

489
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.599
in BC so Stuming and we don't
know, you know, Stumi. BC

490
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.440
does its job here at home.
It takes care of business. That's gonna

491
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.759
be rough, gonna be rough.
But I see that. Are you We'll

492
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.920
get to Edmonton, but Jason and
I'll get Evan as well. Are you

493
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.799
pretty high on maybe Ottawa and finally
given up the loss here at home?

494
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.240
I mean, I think it's as
good of a chance as any as I

495
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.279
said earlier in the show, for
Edmonton to break that streak. But until

496
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.240
I see it, I just won't
believe it. I think that I've seen

497
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.640
too many close calls with this team, with so many opportunities to win that

498
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.480
game at home and break that streak, that I just don't have like full

499
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.519
confidence in their ability to do that. And Ottawa last year went in there

500
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.920
and won with Nick are Bucklet quarterbacks. So I mean, I thought last

501
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.599
year that was the game that Edmonton
was gonna win, and they still didn't

502
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.680
do it. So I'll believe it
when I see it. We'll be talking

503
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.359
here in two years. I remember
that time. We like that Outima is

504
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.960
gonna come in and lose against them. They're gonna give good Evan, any

505
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:12.599
other thoughts on this, I mean
in regards to the Ottawa Edmonton game,

506
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.759
Yeah, you know, I don't
know. I'm not sure if Ottawa has

507
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.400
descended that deeply yet Again, just
like Jason, I'll believe it when I

508
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.960
see it, you know, the
I think about all the times, like

509
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.000
most recently it was the Winnipeg game, you know, where Edmonton you know,

510
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.640
pulled away like twenty two nothing and
lost that, and they had I

511
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.640
mean, there was a couple you
know, games where they had momentum,

512
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.319
like early in the season when they
could have just broken the streak, and

513
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.000
then you know, gotten more fans
in the building as the season continued,

514
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.599
when there was still hope. Now
you're already looking forward to next year,

515
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.119
and I know I know you and
you and Jason already talked about the Victor

516
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.720
Quee stuff on the Show with Naylor
on Thursday. Speaking of Naylor, by

517
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.680
the way, he put out a
tweet that I thought was very interesting and

518
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.160
it goes back to Jason's point about
just sort of the Red Blacks. You

519
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.079
know, there's three and seven,
but the one those teams where you know

520
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.400
you're a handful of plays away from
being like five and five, and that

521
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.839
really goes a long way, I
think, because Jason's right, Like I

522
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.839
I put Ottawa and Hamilton together because
they're in the same division, but the

523
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.039
way they have won and lost games
is extremely different, you know, compared

524
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:19.519
to some of the other ways that
we've seen. Or again, if you

525
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.039
want to draw the comparison to Calgary, yes, Calgary and Ottawa are much

526
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.480
closer because you know, they've just
had so many lost opportunities, where with

527
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:32.519
Hamilton, I think it's a pretty
a pretty clear line. It's either they

528
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.680
win or they lose. Like when
they win, it's it's by a good

529
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.599
margin. Most of the time,
it feels like a confident win. And

530
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.440
when they lose, it's not pretty. With these teams, you know,

531
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.759
I with Calgary and then Ottawa in
particular, and I feel like Ottawa will

532
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.720
feel the burn, maybe even more, just because you know, Hamilton is

533
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:55.000
further behind the Saskatchewan is when we're
talking about East West playoffs stuff. I

534
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:59.160
think Ottawa might feel the burden there
because if they I mean, let's say,

535
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.440
I don't know, let's say Hamilton
gets into the playoffs at like you

536
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:06.799
know, six and twelve, and
maybe Ottawa has the same record or they're

537
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.799
a game behind, but Hamilton holds
the tiebreaker because they won those games against

538
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:14.279
Ottawa already. If that happens,
I mean, you know, you had

539
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.799
an opportunity to go to the playoffs
with that record, but you still couldn't

540
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.880
get in. And that's that's when
you're sitting there. The all front office

541
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.720
coaching staff is sitting there just kicking
themselves, like you know, we were

542
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:28.359
that close. Even in a year
where it didn't feel close generally, there

543
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.519
was still an opportunity that we couldn't
that we couldn't grasp. So it's a

544
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:36.000
unique situation across the league for sure. I think the East Division just because

545
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.880
I mean, I don't know,
I mean, the West to me is

546
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.759
more ironed out than the East.
I mean, well, I don't know,

547
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.960
like Toronto and Montreal pretty much locks
this point. We're really just looking

548
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.359
at you know, Hamilton and Ottawa, which is still a toss up,

549
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:52.200
and Calgren and Saskatchewan is becoming,
you know, a further battle than it

550
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.039
was a couple of weeks ago.
So I don't know, it's an interesting

551
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.519
time. I think the bottom line
here is, yes, we're going to

552
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.519
have a team in the playoffs that
does not look like a play off team.

553
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:01.880
And you know that's happened in the
NFL. I mean we had the

554
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.240
eight and nine Buccaneers, you know, playing the Cowboys in the playoffs,

555
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.440
you know, and in fom Bradies
last year. That there's just this past

556
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.000
season, you know, it doesn't
feel like that long ago. So I

557
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.880
don't know. People you're gonna get
those people saying, well, you know

558
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.960
this is why the CFL is bad. You know, this is why we

559
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:20.880
can't you know, bother with alternative
football. I'm like, well, it's

560
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.000
a problem across the sport, and
you know, even in college football there's

561
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.880
a lot of mismatches and things like
that, so that opens up a broader

562
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.599
discussion. I'm not going to get
into that, but you see where I'm

563
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.200
going with this. Yeah, speaking
of the Cowboys at Seahawks, he was

564
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:37.000
preseason, but I was there.
Seahawks took care of business against the Cowboys

565
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:38.960
here. I was very excited for
that. Jason, you have any other

566
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.480
notes on this one before we get
today? A little bit of a snooze

567
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.680
fast year, the way to pay
Calgary, But anything else on Ottaway and

568
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.039
all that, Yeah, I wanted
to give a shout out to Montreal's defense,

569
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.279
which is a unit we haven't been
talking enough about this season. I

570
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.359
think they're just a really, really
solid defense and one of the best units

571
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:59.200
in the league. And I think
that in the second half they really put

572
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.640
the clamps down, didn't allow Ottawa
to get anything going, and allowed that

573
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.160
to be a catalyst for the big
comeback. Yeah, I like Montreal.

574
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.119
Montreal is my team of the East
certainly can't show for a cheer for the

575
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:14.960
Argos and Mike Mitchell's got that on
lockdown. So well, we'll hope at

576
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.199
Montreal will be good. Coming up
here. This was the right at the

577
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.440
Friday night one a Winnipeg at Calgary
game, will run for their money.

578
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.199
Calgary came back Drew Brown a little
bit more down to earth here. I

579
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.840
have a quote here from Michael Ball, I think coming up but evan initial

580
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:32.719
thoughts on this one. Yeah,
so Drew Brown. I didn't predict this,

581
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.440
but I certainly said it could happen. Last week. You know,

582
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.840
Drew Brown kind of came out,
you know, hot, you know,

583
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.079
and not come back against Edmonton after
Clarens went down, you know, looked

584
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.239
great again. Isn't his third year, that big third year in the CFL

585
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.440
was getting experience, you know,
getting these game reps. But he can

586
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.079
always come back down to earths.
As you've just said, that was only

587
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.039
what I had in my notes,
that exact term come back down on earth.

588
00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:00.000
That's what happened here. It was
a slower game. It was somewhat

589
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.119
expected. I think. You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks that we've

590
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:05.559
seen, including Dust and crumb where
they kind of jump out hot, you

591
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.800
know, and get the train rolling
and then things kind of start, you

592
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.360
know, slowly tapering off, you
know, over one game in the course

593
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.119
of many games, depending on how
many reps they get. So you know,

594
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.159
yeah, Drew Brown, definitely,
this was definitely the slowest I think

595
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.639
I've seen Winnipeg's offense all year.
I mean, you're used to seeing this

596
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.840
unit, you know, putting up
thirty plus points on a regular basis,

597
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:29.599
and I get that's with a different
quarterback, but you know that this was

598
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:34.519
un characteristic for Winnipeg, although again
it's understandable there's certain criteria here that are

599
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.079
a bit different. They're in a
bit of a different dumb position. But

600
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.960
yeah, I mean Calgary, you
know, Calgary, we just talked about

601
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.360
it in regards to all this playoff
stuff, and you know, Ottawa and

602
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.840
sort of drawing comparisons. They were
so close. I mean, they just

603
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.960
keep getting so close. I mean
when I saw him against BBC, it

604
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.199
wasn't close. But they've had a
couple of times. You know, they

605
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.480
took that game, they took advantage
I should I should say of that game

606
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.679
against Toronto, which is great because
my god, if they don't win that

607
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.199
game, they're what two and eight, which is at that point, I

608
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.719
mean, you know, that's that's
really bad. You know, I don't

609
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.039
think people have really realized that yet, as much as I've tried to put

610
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.000
a positive spotlight on Calgary and believe
in them, I mean, two and

611
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.559
eight, then you're not even thinking
about playoffs at all. And I mean,

612
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.119
Saskatchewan, we've already locked up the
spot by that point, I think.

613
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.400
But regardless, you know, Calgary
in this game, it was just

614
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.840
their offense continues to baffle me.
I think they have so many good receivers

615
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.360
and they just keep adding to that, Like they've added Mark and Michelle,

616
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.599
Tommy Lee Lewis in the middle of
the season, and they still haven't been

617
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.000
able to degenerate production. I would
say Tommy Lee Lewis was the most impressive

618
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.039
player in Calgary's offense in this game, and he had one catch. Keep

619
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.960
in mind that one catch one for
forty six yards. But if your top

620
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.840
player on offense has one catch,
like one play, that's a really bad

621
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.000
sign. And you know, I
think I had in my notes here two.

622
00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.800
You know, Renne Parretis, he's
a hero in Calgary. I mean,

623
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:00.599
he's the one, and he still
didn't have a perfect day. He

624
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.360
went six of eight. But the
fact that he has to attempt eight field

625
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.920
goals to even put them in a
remote position to win, that's just not

626
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.800
good football. That's not sustainable football. You cannot keep that going. And

627
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.199
I know everybody in that Calgary building
knows that. But it's just really frustrating

628
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:20.400
because I've said so many times,
like you know, on both sides of

629
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.239
the ball, offense again receiving corps
and then defense specifically with their defensive lot.

630
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.519
I think the Stampeders have a ton
of talent. That's why I was

631
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.679
really excited to go and kind of
evaluate that person last week. But they

632
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.239
just they can't get it together.
And I think, you know, now

633
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.800
we're starting to ask more questions about
Jake Mayer. You know, for a

634
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:38.800
couple of weeks that was well,
this wasn't great, but it's fine,

635
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.119
you know, still the start of
the season. Now you're in the middle

636
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:44.679
of the season and it's not fine. You know, it's there. They

637
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.239
are struggling to throw for two hundred
yards per game with Jake Meyertt quarterback.

638
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.599
Now keep in mind, I still
like Jake Mayer. This isn't a personal

639
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.119
you know, hit against anybody or
anything like that. But I think from

640
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:01.360
the pure football perspective, you cannot
have of a quarterback that you know can't

641
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:06.079
struggles to hit the two hundred yard
mark per game. You just can't have

642
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.239
it. I mean, this wasn't
especially you can't. It's like I'm just

643
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:13.559
looking absolutely yeah no, and it's
it's just such a shame. I it

644
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.920
makes me sad because I was so
excited for Jake and I'm sure he's probably

645
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.719
you know, beating himself up about
it and taking a lot of the credit,

646
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.000
you know. It's it's just it's
just sad, like there's just so

647
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:28.079
much potential there and I feel like
if Calgary doesn't get it in the playoffs,

648
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.280
which is looking less and less likely
every week, especially again with Saskatchewan

649
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.519
pulling away, this is just a
it's a waste of a lot of things,

650
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.000
you know, And I mean any
team that doesn't make the playoffs.

651
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:38.920
Again, you could say this about
so many teams that don't make the playoffs.

652
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.440
There's waste of talent. There's guys
that don't get an opportunity to compete

653
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.320
for a championship and that sucks.
That's but that's sports, you know,

654
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:50.880
that's football. Those are all general
assumptions. But with this team specifically,

655
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.000
like I think there's just so there's
so much talent on this team and they

656
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.320
just I don't want to say they
haven't tapped into it, because there are

657
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.800
playmakers and we have seen that Calgary
has been extremely competitive. They just can

658
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.440
never get the job done. And
I think when they don't get the job

659
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.920
done, we're all quicker to point
out the flaws of this team again,

660
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:14.159
like their slower offense and the lack
of you know, just general abilities,

661
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.199
and maybe the coaching too. You
know, I've said it on the show

662
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.599
before. I think life's easier when
you win, you know, and you

663
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.960
can definitely quote me on that life
is easier when you win for everybody,

664
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:28.480
you know, from football operations.
That trickles down to the players. Everything

665
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.000
is easier when you just win.
And Calgary hasn't won, and they've been

666
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.800
in so many games where they could
have won. And now you're starting to

667
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.159
see the fall out of that where
we're sitting here and we're asking all these

668
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.199
questions about, you know, what
things might look like in the future.

669
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:45.559
And again ultimately just disappointing Jason thoughts
on this. I mean we have just

670
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:49.280
I mean, they're shaking my head
when Evan's talking because Jake and I love

671
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.559
Jake, and like I said,
just this stagnant offense. I've been putting

672
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.079
up tweets. You know they haven't
had one of you know, they've had

673
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.880
one offensive testdown in four games.
What are you making this mess? Well,

674
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:01.920
because I bring in the speed of
the seat I've had Jake Mayor with

675
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:08.440
this, my number of those people. Really, you haven't the internet your

676
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.239
internet connection there kind of we walked
out for a minute. Let's try one

677
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.039
more time. You might have to
log back in. Oh shoot, let

678
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.280
make sure there you Let's get him
back. Get Evan here. I had

679
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:21.840
a couple of quotes, Let's let's
do an exercise here while we wait for

680
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.480
Jason. That was kind of everyone
smilest. Step goes Farhan just put this

681
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.320
tweet at which team takes the CFL's
final playoffs bot. I haven't voted yet,

682
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:30.440
so we're gonna vote. We're gonna
see where the results are. So

683
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.559
what do you think? We have
two hundred and twenty seven votes for Calgary.

684
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.599
Although I Hamilton, we've been talking
scraping the bottom of the barrel.

685
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.000
What do you make of this?
This one's difficult. I think it really

686
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.639
I think it really has come down
to the East. I mean again,

687
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.440
I've just said, you know,
it really comes down to Saskatchewan more than

688
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.639
just the Calgary because because like I
didn't, none of us expect the saskatche

689
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:57.519
when the paw off the opposite against
BC. Now that that's happened, they're

690
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.239
getting back to sort of winning ways
and not again that all fall apart.

691
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.519
Maybe Calgary, you know, does
make a change and becomes, you know,

692
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.559
a bit more drastic with their decisions
given the state that they're in and

693
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.039
the fact that they are still in
a playoff race. But I don't know

694
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.480
just right now, Like the way
things are right now is we're sitting here

695
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:19.920
at the end of this week,
I'm gonna stay, it's gonna be an

696
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:23.400
East team and I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go with Hamilton, and that's

697
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.119
my I'm go be controversial. And
again, I we've talked about it.

698
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:31.440
I know Hamilton is you know,
yeah, they might not be. I

699
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:36.039
still think Ottawa is better off long
term because I think even if Hamilton does

700
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:37.800
make the playoffs, they're still gonna
have a lot of changes to make in

701
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.920
the off season, and especially on
the coaching side of things. And they

702
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.840
already got you know, Tommy Condell
offensive coordinators already gone, so that's something

703
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.360
that you know they're gonna have to
address soon. And then probably you know,

704
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.400
I mean, I don't I don't
want to talk about head coaching yet,

705
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.039
but certainly a possibility, I think. But anyway, I think Hamilton

706
00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:00.159
will make the playoffs because you know, my belief is that Saskatchewan will pull

707
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:06.039
away, which puts Calgary out.
Ottawa has the potential and again I think

708
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.599
Ottawa and Hamilton could probably finish with
the same record. But I just you

709
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:14.079
know that it all comes down,
like you know, again, those two

710
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.880
games that Hamilton played against Ottawa and
one that might have in a way,

711
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.360
I can't say, save their season, because again, if they go to

712
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:22.800
the playoffs, I don't think they're
gonna be a winner in the playoffs,

713
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:27.360
but it made it might have just
made their season a bit more interesting and

714
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.920
a bit more entertaining, and it
might keep some more people around for longer.

715
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.280
And I think that's up that's an
important thing. To note, So

716
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.880
I'm gonna go with the Tiger Cats. That's obviously subject to change, you

717
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.519
know, I do see there's a
scenario where Ottawa just wins more games outright

718
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:44.199
than Hamilton, and I think that's
the real possibility. Again, I still

719
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.639
feel like they have the potential to
do that because they've been in so many

720
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.360
close games and I like the culture
and I like what they're building. So

721
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.239
maybe that's the case where the tiebreaker
doesn't even matter because Ottawa just turns out

722
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:58.280
to be the team with more wins
and the wind column. But yeah,

723
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.679
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
with Hamilton. That's my final answer,

724
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.360
Jason, what do you make of
this? And then we'll give you the

725
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.519
four to talk about the game.
But we were pulling this up here.

726
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:12.719
Which team makes a take on playoffs
flot I'm gonna regretfully say Hamilton, even

727
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.519
though at this point, I mean, I kind of you know, it's

728
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.079
it's sad to say is the Tiecats
fan, But I kind of hope they

729
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.440
just they kind of missed the playoffs, so they have to make wholesale changes

730
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.039
with this team. I feel like
if they make the playoffs, they'll talk

731
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:29.280
themselves into another year of the same, you know regime there in Hamilton,

732
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:34.440
and I think that you know what's
really interesting is that you know, Ottawa

733
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.960
had, like Evan says, has
to outright have more wins than Hamilton at

734
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.679
the end of the season. Now
because of the tiebreakers that obviously could happen.

735
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.440
Calgary also would have to have outright
more wins because the crossover rule,

736
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.960
there's no tiebreaker with them. You
know, the West Division team has to

737
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:53.320
have more wins than the East Division
team in order to crossover. So I

738
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:58.239
think mathematically Hamilton has the better shot. But when I look around this league

739
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.559
right now, I don't think there's
many teams the Tiecats can beat. Honestly,

740
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.280
I think other than Ottawa, which
obviously they just owned Ottawa, but

741
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.840
I think other than them, I
don't think there's that many winnable games left

742
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.000
from the schedule, but they'll probably
get two or three wins here, and

743
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.760
at the end of the day,
I think Hamilton probably as the best shot

744
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.920
of all those three teams. Let's
get your thoughts here and the internet.

745
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.280
It's a little dicey, it sounds
okay, we'll give it a shot here.

746
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:23.719
Let's go through a year that you
were going off on your Calgary before

747
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:28.039
we had to have your log back
in. Yeah, So I was saying

748
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:32.039
that I blame myself for calgary struggles
this year because going into the season,

749
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:36.360
I had Jake Mayo ranked as my
number two quarterback in the CFL. I

750
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.880
was a full believer in him,
in him, and I think that you

751
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.440
know his struggles. You know,
for the third year in a row,

752
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.519
I picked a quarterback. Last year
was Vernon Adams. I picked him to

753
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.159
win MLP. I mean he got
bench two games of the season. The

754
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.239
year before was Trevor Harris. I
picked him to win MLP. Obviously,

755
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.199
the Elks had a horrible season.
So I think that, you know,

756
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.519
I blame myself for that. But
I think that, you know, Calgary

757
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.679
is just a really tough team to
watch right now. Like Evan said,

758
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:07.079
I think that it's just really really
painful to watch this offense. They don't

759
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.320
take the training wheels off of this
offense at all. I think that they're

760
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.480
not taking advantage of the receiving talent, like Evan said, And I think

761
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.679
that, you know, it's very
disappointing because they've now lost two games in

762
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:22.760
which their defense hasn't allowed to touchdown, going back to that game against Montreal

763
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.880
where the only touchdown they gave up
was a pick six, and the same

764
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.639
thing in this one. So very
disappointed for Calgary. Their record could be

765
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.719
much better right now. Yeah,
I had a tweet here saved. I

766
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:37.840
didn't really. I think it's just
in the last couple of weeks here friends

767
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:40.880
of the show, Milt Stiegel and
David Sanchez, and they've started their own

768
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.440
CFL podcasts here why the open with
so we have new new competition here on

769
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.719
the block, gentlemen. But they
posed a question here, Dave DICKINSONID as

770
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.119
a player coach's never missed the playoffs
in the CFL? Will it happen this

771
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.920
year? Jason will go to Jason
just to give him because he's been logged

772
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.440
up here, and they'll go back
to Evan. Did you see Dave missing

773
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:02.199
the playoffs this year? I mean
it's hard to say because Calgary has,

774
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:07.480
you know, had great second half
to seasons in years past, most notably

775
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:09.800
twenty twenty one where where they were
two and five to begin the year like

776
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:14.360
they were this year. But I
just I just can't see it at this

777
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.000
point. I think they're gonna miss
the playoffs. It just seems like it's

778
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:21.400
their turn to be a bad team, and after so many years of having

779
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.199
success, I think it's their turn. Evan thoughts on this, and I

780
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.719
have one more funny thing on this
game before we'll go to the last one.

781
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.239
Yeah, I totally agree. I
mean, if my prediction stands,

782
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.440
I mean, Calgary's Calgary is not
going to be in it. And I

783
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.679
mean it sucks to see a streak
like that go, and I think it

784
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:39.239
definitely marks the end of an era. And you know, maybe with that

785
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:43.719
brings, you know, some change, it's new I think. Again,

786
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.480
maybe I've said it before, but
Calgary is already in a bit of a

787
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.719
transitional phase regardless of whether they're a
playoff team or not. So I don't

788
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:52.960
know, Yeah, I don't.
I don't see them as a playoff team

789
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.920
right now, especially not after this
weekend. And you know, not what

790
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.679
I saw them at all. It's
been rough. You know, it's been

791
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.679
rough. But again, like it's
it's hard to see any of those other

792
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.519
teams that we mentioned as playoff teams
given their struggles, and it's just a

793
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.079
numbers game at this point. You
know, who can finish with the most

794
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.320
wins or who has the tiebreaker,
and you know, it gets a bit

795
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.400
messy in that sense, and it
might not mean the best playoff football,

796
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.400
but you know, we know who
the good teams are and we know you

797
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.559
know who's entertaining and who will bring
the best of the table. And I

798
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.360
think that's what's most important. Ultimately, we have an expectation. So that's

799
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:30.199
good. It was funny here.
I guess it was freezing cold here in

800
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.480
Calgary in August, and so we
have a new friend. He just posted

801
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:37.599
that he was going to be on
Instagram now Paula Police, not the fake

802
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.440
Paula Police, but the real woman. I guess Farhan had like a blanket

803
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.760
on the sidelines. I guess far
On and I don't know, like who

804
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.639
thse to the TSM production crew for
finding that blanket to give it to paul

805
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:52.760
But I just thought that there.
I don't want to play the audio.

806
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.480
God forbid we get another copyrights strike
from TSM this time. But I think

807
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.760
it was funny. Far Paula Police
used to be my friend. I don't

808
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.599
know Jason thoughts on this. I
just thought this was tremendous. Yeah,

809
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.000
that's freaking hilarious. And I think
the Instagram thing and how you know,

810
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.639
people made fake accounts of him on
Instagram that was hilarious as well. So

811
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:14.679
I think he's a pretty funny guy
and he's a good addition to the TSN

812
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.719
panel for sure. Yeah, I
tweet him that said it was me.

813
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.519
I was one of the I mean, Paul like you gotta. I think

814
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:22.400
he's got in follows thirty two people
or something on Twitter, like, let's

815
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.880
get the left back a little bit. You want to get people over on

816
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:30.519
this anything else? Evan on Winnipeger
Calgary before we get to the Thursday game.

817
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.920
I don't know if I have anything
else about Winnipegger Calgary, but I

818
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.400
will say, you know, it
wouldn't be the first time I've seen Farhan

819
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.320
wearing some interesting stuff on the sidelines. When I was in BC last year,

820
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:42.960
he had the slides on and that
was a pretty iconic moment. I

821
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.880
took a picture of that, and
you know, I hope he brings those

822
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.679
back out again. It was a
nice look. I might adopt out myself,

823
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.480
you know, going back to the
XFL this year, I wouldn't mind

824
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.519
that. Yeah, you were at
the slides game. You haven't forgot about

825
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.199
that? That was that was the
slides game. Oh, here we go.

826
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.400
I'm hit the wrong about where we
go. So Edmonton first win of

827
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.559
the season, I will be honest, and Jason, I want to hear

828
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.360
first hand experience here with the weather
delay and all of that. I had

829
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:14.039
the game off in the corner.
It really seemed like after they came back

830
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:15.199
from the rain delay, there wasn't
much of a game. So I have

831
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.280
many many notes for the first half
of the game, and then it really

832
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.119
seemed like they came back out and
said, we've been sitting here for an

833
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:23.119
hour and a half, let's kind
of get through this. Jason, you

834
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:28.119
lived through the rainstorm. What was
this like? Yeah? So I Edmonton

835
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.920
came out fast, twenty one nine
a halftime lead. Trey Ford had a

836
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:36.719
couple of nice touchdown passes to former
Tiger Cat Stephen Dunbar in the first half.

837
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.639
So that was nice to see from
their perspective. You know, happy

838
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:44.880
that Edmonton doesn't have to endure a
winless season at this point. I don't

839
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.960
think any CFL fan base deserves to
go through that. But I just think

840
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:51.800
Hamilton really wasn't prepared at all for
this game, especially coming out of a

841
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.920
bye week that was very disappointing,
and like we were talking about winnable games

842
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.679
going down the stretch, I think
this is a very much a winnable game

843
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.039
for the tight Cats, obviously given
the fact that the else hadn't be anybody

844
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.519
this season. And you know,
they just wasted one of those opportunities and

845
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.519
I think, you know, key
play and this one was key. Second.

846
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:13.480
In one play, I think they
were at the Taycat's forty yard line

847
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.519
and just a prime opportunity to do
with like a trick play, you know,

848
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.599
basically just a free play because you
can get that that first down on

849
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.280
the next play, but Hamilton was
not prepared for a fake and Taylor Cornelius

850
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.840
threw it deep to defensive lineman Acy
Leonard, who was a converted wide receiver

851
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.079
upon coming to the CFL, and
you know, he pulled in a nice

852
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.519
pass there and set up the second
touchdown Forredton and it was basically home free

853
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:42.119
from there. I think another big
thing in this one was also the fact

854
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.960
that Mark Leggio missed so many kicks. I think they totaled ten points that

855
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.639
he left off the board in this
one, so that could have made a

856
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.239
massive difference. But again, Hamilton
just could not get in the end zone.

857
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:57.079
They couldn't finish drives. And that's
a theme with Taylor Powell since he's

858
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.000
taken over as the starting quarterback here. I don't think he has a single

859
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.519
will touchdown pass in the three games
that he started. So, I mean,

860
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.400
you could, you know, completely
passes all you want, complete like

861
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.840
seventy five percent of your passes all
you want. But if you're not getting

862
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:12.800
in the end zone, you're not
gonna win many games. And that's just

863
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.119
the facts. Yeah, this is
a Jake Mayer of it. Well,

864
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.239
I'm ninety four percent completion, righty
in their cries like, yeah it doesn't

865
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.079
Yeah, Cliffy here had the quote
the tweet I got no Leggio. I

866
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.880
thought that was funny. We had
I had the where was it Marshall's you

867
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.320
know, Marshall Ferguson there where I
guess like wasn't even scheduled to be working

868
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.159
that game, but just showed up. And he's had like four weather delays

869
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.960
this year. Yeah, Marshall is
definitely the problem. I had the other

870
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:43.719
funny quote and I'm going to I'm
gonna preface if you're if you're sensitive to

871
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:46.280
language, but just thought this was
funny speaking about the Tiects and the special

872
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:52.079
teams Jeff Riifolds and that we quote
the fuck end the quote. I thought

873
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.679
that was a tremendously funny quote talking
about the Tiects special teams. We saw

874
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.400
a lot of this as well.
Victor quee, it's me, it's me,

875
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.599
I'm the problem. It's me.
With Edmonton finally getting there win.

876
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.559
Evan, what did you make of
this, Edmonton finally getting in the w

877
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.800
We saw flashes with tray Ford.
I don't think that this was surprising,

878
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:12.599
but good to see that finally kind
of put a complete game together, even

879
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:15.159
if it was still kind of a
weather delay. It half well before I

880
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.239
jump into the game too deeply,
all shout out to jeff ryin Bull That

881
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.920
guy's one of my favorite coaches,
not just in the CFL, but maybe

882
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.159
ever. He's a he's a great
guy. You know, he's worked with

883
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.800
with Sky Sports, I think,
and he's done a lot of cool stuff.

884
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.800
A great, great guy to talk
to, interact with whatever. Unfortunately,

885
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.760
you know, things maybe haven't gone
his way this season, but great

886
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:39.639
coach done the last great man getting
into the game. Yeah, so Edmonton,

887
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:43.639
you know, finally got their win. We maybe had some suspicions that

888
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:45.679
this was going to happen. I
was in that same sort of you know,

889
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:49.360
I'll see it when I believe in
category, and well now I believe

890
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.079
it because it's officially on the board. But yeah, I was really you

891
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.840
know, despite the weather delay and
everything, I was it was good to

892
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:59.079
see Edmonton, you know, sort
of hold things down. And I think

893
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.440
the most important part here, and
maybe this goes without saying, but trey

894
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:07.000
Ford continuing to hold down at the
starting job, continuing to sort of grow

895
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.119
into that role, and you know, you know take that with pride.

896
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:14.480
We all agree that should have happened
earlier, but that's in the past now

897
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.599
nothing we can do about it.
You know. The other guy too.

898
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.559
I mean we've talked about trey Ford
so much. I really want to talk

899
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.800
about Kevin Brown because this guy really
deserves more credit, I think, not

900
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:29.119
just on the Elks team, but
like in the CFL as a hole at

901
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.119
the running back position. I know
we talked a bit about Montreal's under raided

902
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.519
running backs like jesser An Antwee last
week, but Yeah, Kevin Brown.

903
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.079
That guy. That guy can play. And I think it's gonna been under

904
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.440
the radar again because Edmonton struggle.
No one's really watching them as much this

905
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.519
year. But but Kevin Brown will
turn up, you know when they need

906
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:50.360
him too, and he is I
think you know him and like having him

907
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.639
is the top running back, and
then Trey Ford is kind of compliment,

908
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.679
you know, as a running quarterback. I think that I don't know,

909
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:00.320
I shouldn't draw comparisons, but I
kind of think about, like, and

910
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.480
I'm not saying this is really a
run first team, but if you want

911
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.360
to make a bit of a reach
comparison, I think of like Lamar Jackson

912
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.559
and mark Ingram when they were on
the same team in twenty nineteen. Now

913
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:14.800
keep in mind that team had fourteen
wins in the NFL. This is a

914
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:17.480
this is a one win CFL team, so it's a bit of a different

915
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:21.480
ballpark. But what I'm getting at
is, you know, the fact that

916
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.280
they can have a guy like that
who is such a consistent runner and then

917
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:29.840
had a quarterback it's also mobile.
I think that will benefit them for the

918
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:31.800
rest of the season if they can
keep this momentum and keep winning games,

919
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.320
whether that's a way or at home, I don't know. That's just my

920
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.159
take on it. I'm not saying
Kevin Brown is the next mark Ingram,

921
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.599
but you know that's that's the first
thing I thought of, just given this

922
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.119
sort of situation. And there's other
similar I would say, situations playing out

923
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:50.719
across the football landscape right now where
you have that. But anyway, a

924
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:55.079
couple other things for Edmonton. Stephen
Dunbar revenge game obviously goes without saying from

925
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:59.519
what I remember, he might have
played. I don't know if it was

926
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:04.039
him. He might have played well
when Edmondston played Hamilton last time. I

927
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.559
feel like I was here in the
name Stephen Dunbar lots. So maybe he

928
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:09.679
just kind of breaks out against his
old team. I don't know, but

929
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:15.239
he was very impressive in this one. Nonetheless, you know, top receiver,

930
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.519
two touchdown catches, he pretty much
led the offense. I'll give a

931
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.159
special shout out to Emmanuel Arsenal two. I know a lot of attention was

932
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:24.400
going around H. A. C. Leonard, you know, coming in

933
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:29.880
on the receiving play, but many
Arsenal, you know, became the thirtieth

934
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:35.280
CFL receiver to surpass nine thousand career
receiving yards, which I'd say it's a

935
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:39.360
pretty formidab accomplishment considering you know,
he was getting old in like twenty nineteen

936
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:44.639
and then CFL stopped in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, he was in

937
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.960
the IFL with the Frisco Fighters and
then signed, you know, last year

938
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.199
I think with Edmonton twenty twenty two. You know, because he had been

939
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.079
in BC for many many years before
that, really good to see him,

940
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:58.199
you know, at that age,
you know, still going still, you

941
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:01.039
know, being productive, and you
know he he's been I want to say,

942
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.400
he's been banged up this season.
You know, he was an older

943
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.960
guy. I don't know, I
don't from what I understand, he hasn't

944
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:13.639
exactly had a huge role, But
love Manny. He's a great guy.

945
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.840
I remember I was in BC last
year and you know he was coming over

946
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:22.079
and signing things for all the fans, and plenty of Arsenal eighty four jerseys

947
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.280
in there, so you know,
good to see that. What else was

948
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:29.360
I gonna say? The last thing
I'll say about Edmonton before we jump into

949
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.679
the Hamilton's side is Nyles Morgan on
defense is someone I've had an eye on

950
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:37.840
all season, and he had two
sacks, led the team and tackles in

951
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.320
this game. Again, another player, you know that doesn't really get enough

952
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:44.159
credit. I think just because of
the state of the team itself. They're

953
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:45.519
not winning a lot of games,
not a lot of people are watching,

954
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:50.119
whatever you want to put it.
But Nyle's Morgan definitely deserves some credit for

955
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:53.800
this one. The other thing I
was gonna say, I had a question,

956
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:58.920
my my little hype conspiracy theory here
is I had to tweet, you

957
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:00.400
know, do the weather delays ended
up the Stasi and can come back in?

958
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.679
First off, Jason, did you
take advantage of that? No,

959
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:06.360
you said, I'm getting the heck
out of here? How bad was first

960
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:07.639
off? How bad was the weather? And then I have my conspiracy.

961
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:12.360
Oh it was. It was pretty
bad. I mean for the first little

962
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.480
bit of it, like because it
was convenient because it happened at halftime,

963
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:19.119
so you know, that's when they
announced that there was gonna be a weather

964
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.199
delay, and the rain hadn't really
started yet. It was mostly just the

965
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.719
lightning day that caused the weather delay. So we're like, let's let's just

966
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.000
go home and let's see because we
live about you know, half an hour

967
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:32.000
walk from the stadium, so we
can make it back in time before the

968
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.559
weather delay ends. And I just
watched the second half at home, and

969
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.880
that's what we did. That we
didn't take advantage of this offer to come

970
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:42.519
back into the stadium. But yeah, at the end of the day,

971
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.800
it was a pretty long weather delay. I think I even had like half

972
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.280
an hour at home before it even
started, So I think, you know,

973
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.000
that was disappointing as well for the
tie cast. They had a lot

974
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.400
of time to regroup and potentially come
out with the better effort in the second

975
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:58.280
half, and they just couldn't do
it. Well, here's my conspiracy.

976
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.559
We saw against Winnipeg go of twenty
twos here and then you know trade four

977
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:06.480
and say we didn't push the ball
down the field getting out at Chris Jones

978
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:08.679
and all that. Uh, it
really felt like I said that, people

979
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:12.199
came out and they're like, let's
just get this game done. Like let's

980
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:14.360
you know, let's kind of move
off from that. You know, does

981
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.360
Edmonton Jason, does Edmonton win that
game? Like if they're if they just

982
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:21.119
go in, if Hamilton's just goes
in for you know, the half comes

983
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:22.880
out and still you know, it's
still fresh warm, isn't cold. We've

984
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.719
been sitting in the locker room for
an hour and a half, Like I

985
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:29.480
would just be curious to see what
that second effort looked like because we haven't

986
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:30.920
seen it. We still I don't
feel like I've seen Edmonton put together a

987
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:35.440
complete game like this was a very
bizarre situation for them to win that second

988
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:40.440
half. Yeah, it's it's it's
a very interesting because we'll never know what

989
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:44.760
how the Edmonton would have came out. I think their defense really did step

990
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:46.679
up in the second half. When
then when they eventually did get going,

991
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:50.360
I thought that, you know,
that has been a problem for them this

992
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:53.280
year. They've had opportunities where they've
had leads late and they blow it,

993
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.119
like looking back to that game against
the Scatch one earlier this year, look

994
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:01.199
back last week against Winnipeg, So, I mean, they had opportunities to

995
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:05.000
close games out, but they finally
were able to do it. Pass Rush

996
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:07.239
really showed up in the key moments. They got some key sacks, So

997
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.800
I mean it was good to see
for Edmonton. But I think that the

998
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:15.280
weather delight didn't happen. Yeah,
we never know what would have happened.

999
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:17.239
I think it's interesting. My last
thing from this and then we'll do real

1000
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:21.239
quick, we'll talk Hamilton, we'll
get out of here. I love you

1001
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:22.800
know, we have a love hit
with Marshall. Marshall had his quote with

1002
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.599
with Trey FOURD after the game.
You know, people like to talk.

1003
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.440
I don't have to listen, doctor
Trey said. He said it was was

1004
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.119
that one hundred, one hundred thousand
times harder than Geno Smiths. They wrote

1005
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.840
me off, But I ain't right
back yet, not even in the same

1006
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:40.559
ballpark in terms of quote ability.
And if you guys know Geno Smith with

1007
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:43.760
the Seahawks, our quarterback, and
they said, yeah, a lot of

1008
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.519
people wrote me off, and they
right back had a couple quotes, you

1009
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:51.280
know, rash talking and the absurd, you know, firing Tommy Condell shows

1010
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.559
how lots of tie cats are.
I have another quote here. The Klind

1011
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:59.519
of tie cast since the twenty nineteen
Gray Cup is now complete. The team

1012
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.519
plays disciplined, uninspired football. It's
on coaches management at Hamilton. Now the

1013
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.519
worst team. Let's go to Evan
and then we'll go to Jason and we'll

1014
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.880
get out of here because we're right
hitting the hour mark. Yeah, well,

1015
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:13.039
you know, on the Hamilton's side
of things, you know, in

1016
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.199
my notes, I said the team
is starting to lose their identity, not

1017
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:19.480
that they really had much of one
before, given you know, things have

1018
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:22.519
been shaky. You're letting go of
a coach mid season. But yeah,

1019
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.159
I mean, like a rash said, you know, you're scoring ten points

1020
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:29.760
against a team, you know that
had previously been winless. I mean that

1021
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:32.800
that is unacceptable. And again,
you know, while I picked Hamilton to

1022
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:37.960
be in the playoffs, a game
like this would not signal that and it

1023
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.320
would be completely unacceptable, you know, for a playoff team to have this

1024
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:45.559
type of performance. So maybe that
goes against my point from earlier. But

1025
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:52.000
anyways, I think that the decision
to let go of Tommy Condell, I'm

1026
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:53.320
not gonna I mean, I don't
have a say in that, so I'm

1027
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:57.800
not going to argue with it.
Do I think it was the best decision.

1028
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.320
No, I don't think he should
have been the one to to go

1029
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:04.280
or the fall guy, whatever you
want to put him as. But it

1030
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:08.239
does kind of make you wonder like
maybe this will signal changes in the future.

1031
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:14.679
Maybe this does mean Orlando stein Hour
is done after this season, and

1032
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.199
I think that will be the big
question, one of the bigger questions across

1033
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:20.599
the entire league, because we already
know, like you know, what's going

1034
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:22.480
to happen. I think with Edmonton, but with Hamilton, it's like they

1035
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.840
could go in a couple of different
directions because if they do make the playoffs,

1036
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.880
like well, like I said earlier, that could save some jobs.

1037
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:31.679
You know, maybe they put together
an effort at the end of the season

1038
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:35.880
and they get some people back and
it's kind of like rallying the troops and

1039
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.559
you know, maybe we just had
some missing pieces that we couldn't fill in

1040
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:43.360
until now, or maybe it really
is just you know, things are truly

1041
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.239
falling apart and you can't just you
know whatever it is, like plug square

1042
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:53.400
plug squares into these circular holes or
whatever. I don't know, but ultimately,

1043
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:59.320
just a couple notes, you know, from the actual game, Taylor

1044
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:04.119
Powell and James Butler both looks solid. You know, Powell has struggled to

1045
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:07.880
score, but they can at least
move the ball. I'd rather watch an

1046
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.639
offense that could. I mean,
it's frustrating when they can't finish drives but

1047
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:15.199
I'd rather watch an offense like Hamilton
where they can you know, have some

1048
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:19.679
big plays and get things going as
opposed to Calgary where they just constantly stall,

1049
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.000
you know, can't move things like
that. So I don't know.

1050
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.039
Either way, it's not good,
but you get my point. And then

1051
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.239
the one, the one player that
I really wanted to mention was Tim White.

1052
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:31.960
And I bring that up because I
haven't said a lot about Tim White

1053
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:35.840
this year. You have to remember
he was a CFL All Star last season

1054
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:39.400
and you know this game he kind
of finally you know, made some progress

1055
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:45.239
and looked like an All Star again. It really noticed him standing out in

1056
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:49.079
this one. And then yeah,
I think Jason already said it, but

1057
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.280
uh, bark leggio, man,
that was rough. That that was really

1058
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.599
rough. And I mean, yeah, I'm not saying that. I mean

1059
01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.920
I think he left, yeah,
like ten points on the board, so

1060
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.320
they still wouldn't have won the game
if he just made all those kicks.

1061
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:07.320
Like, I don't think that was
the difference in this game. But it's

1062
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:09.840
one thing when your team is already
struggling to score and you know, you

1063
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:13.920
come in and as the kicker,
like you're just trying to get points on

1064
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:15.239
the board. And when you can't
do that, it's kind of like if

1065
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.920
you didn't have any hope before,
then all hope is lost. Then with

1066
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:21.639
Howegary, like you know, with
running prets, I mean, he made

1067
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.719
six of his kicks, so while
it wasn't pretty, and while the offense

1068
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:28.519
couldn't score touchdowns, they at least
had him to keep things going and again,

1069
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:30.119
just get points on the board.
It's not pretty, it's not exciting,

1070
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.719
but it is what it is.
You're staying in the game. But

1071
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:36.119
with this, yeah, I mean
there was just it's like, I mean,

1072
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.760
you're not even You're just missing kicks, like it's it's just one of

1073
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:43.679
those sloppy nights. And again weather
delay never helps. So that weather delay

1074
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:49.000
that I can't remember, I mean, there's hasn't been many weather delays I

1075
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.719
can remember that have been that long. And the CFL has had a lot.

1076
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.119
Realize that in the summer, like
you know, things get that bad.

1077
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:58.559
You know, I've been up to
Canada in the summer, you know,

1078
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.280
certain parts. I haven't been all
around obviously, but you know,

1079
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:03.760
it just seems like there's been so
many. I Mean, the NFL has

1080
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:08.280
their fair share too, especially you
know, like September as things are still

1081
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.639
warm and everything like that, and
then obviously at the other end and winter

1082
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.239
when things get cold, you know, maybe snow and rain, things like

1083
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:17.320
that. Wind. But yeah,
like there's just feels like there's been a

1084
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:21.239
lot of weather delays in that one
for some reason, just felt extra brutal.

1085
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:25.400
Yeah, Marshall, Blame Marshall,
Tim capri check in the year,

1086
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:28.519
Tim, we time I gave you. We talked to Tim's inside sources about

1087
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:31.320
the Allott's quarterback room earlier in the
episode. You gotta go back find Jason.

1088
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:33.960
We'll get out of here seeing anything
else from you, and then we'll

1089
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.599
try to get out because it's been
it's been long. It's been good though.

1090
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.199
Yeah, that's touching on the decision
to fire Tommy Condell. I thought

1091
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:45.639
that it was the right decision.
I think that, you know, some

1092
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.280
of these schemes that the tai CAATs
coaches have been running have just kind of

1093
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:53.079
dried up over the last couple of
years. You've seen a clear decline and

1094
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:57.079
I think that my only complaint with
that was that it didn't go far enough.

1095
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.159
I think that all of the coaching
staff basically has to go for the

1096
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:02.760
tie Cats, I think you've seen
a decline every single year. So twenty

1097
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:08.760
nineteen first place, fifteen and three, twenty twenty one eight and six second

1098
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:12.119
place in the East, last year
eight and ten, third place in the

1099
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.559
East, and then this year maybe
fourth place. I think that, you

1100
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:16.920
know, it's pretty safe to say
I don't think they're gonna get to eight

1101
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.000
wins this year. So I think
that, you know, it's just been

1102
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.679
very disappointing when you see that sharp
of a decline. And I think that,

1103
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:27.960
like I said, I think these
schemes that these coaches are running,

1104
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:30.800
especially defensively, I think that,
you know, offensively they just can't score

1105
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.679
in the red zone. But defensively, they're like the worst defense in the

1106
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:38.599
CFL this year, which is just
shocking from a Hamilton's perspective because I've been

1107
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:42.079
so used to over my years as
a fan of watching poor offenses with the

1108
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.119
tie Cats, but very rarely seeing
this terrible defense with the tie Cats.

1109
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:48.880
So I think they're dead last right
now in points allowed per game in the

1110
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:53.679
CFL, even worse than Edmonton.
So I mean, that's really what stands

1111
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:56.800
out for me with this team this
year. I think the coaching staff.

1112
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.360
And it's worth noting that President Orlando
Stein now are now makes the decisions for

1113
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.880
the personnel for this team. So
he went out and made the decision to

1114
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:08.199
bring in all these new players this
offseason. So, I mean, I

1115
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:11.400
think at certain point you have to
blame the coaches, and at this point,

1116
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:15.039
I think they deserve the brunt of
the blame. Well, we're gonna

1117
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.320
get out of here next This week
on the show, I gotta figure out

1118
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:21.079
got the Thursday game again, trying
to do a traditional episode this week.

1119
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.960
It's just hard, kind of like
getting enough pieces together, like do we

1120
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.679
have enough interviews to do otherwise we'll
go live again. I'll figure that out.

1121
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:31.000
But I gotta send some emails out
today. But yeah, this montrelat

1122
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:33.360
Winnipeg, I think that's good.
I think I would like to see,

1123
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:35.840
you know, if Montreal can kind
of make a run out of here and

1124
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:40.719
give Winnipeg you know something, you
know, you give a little competition there,

1125
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:44.000
and then we've got Calgary and all
of that. Hamilton's BC we've already

1126
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:47.800
talked about in Ottaway at Edmonton.
Appreciate everyone, Evan, Appreciate you getting

1127
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:51.440
back in getting everything set up and
Jason obviously seeing all the games, everything

1128
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:57.079
else. Anything else quick from you
guys before we get out. All right,

1129
01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.639
we'll see you guys. Check out
jason stuff this week. I know

1130
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:01.840
he'll have some previews and everything coming
up, and then just stay tuned on

1131
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:15.960
social media and we will figure out
what's going on. Thanks guys,