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It's time for Coffee and Company fueled
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Now here's Nick Coffee. That's right, Coffee and Company Hour number three.

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not get a breakfast sandwich today just
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very tempting because they're delicious, and
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and it's super delicious. And they'll
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They've got a Hot Honey Chicken waffle, which you know, it's like

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So again, shout out to our
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We appreciate them, all right,
Nick Coffee, that's me the company man,

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mister John Alden, riding shotgun today
on a very busy, busy show.

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And I did start the show by
mentioning, you know, I'm not

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one that is very spontaneous. That's
just, you know, I'm more of

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a play it's safe. A lot
of people took that and just insulted me

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on the text line, saying,
Nick, that means you're weak. You

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know, you're you're you're scared,
and you may be right. I fear

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change. I'm very much someone who
needs routine, structure, a pattern.

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I don't like to rock the boat, so I don't make any quick you

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know, decisions. You know,
it's big decisions like a big expense or

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just you know, you know,
out of I know where, just decided

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to go take a big trip.
I like the idea of it, but

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I don't usually find myself actually doing
it. So that's where my wife comes

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in. She's great. She's somebody
that makes very quick decisions in our life

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and so far, so good.
There hasn't been one that, you know,

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has ruined our life just yet.
The best example is, you know,

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we bought our first home. It
was a process. You know,

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we were in an apartment. This
was many, many years ago, and

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we probably looked at thirty houses before
we ended up finding the one we wanted,

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Like, we couldn't come to it
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moved twice since then, and each
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mean, we weren't looking to move
and I'm pretty sure she found it on

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the internet. We were buying the
house maybe forty eight hours later. I

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mean, that's just kind of how
she operates. And she did that today

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where we're going on a trip in
the end of May and we're going to

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take a trip to I'm trying to
get her to tell me where we're going

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for sure, just so I know. But that's exciting, and you know,

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I'm looking forward to it. But
it does make me sort of like

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question, like, maybe I should
be a little more spontaneous. But I

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do love a loyal listener that remembers
things about, you know, my very

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uneventful and you know, rather boring
life. I mean, maybe it's not

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boring to you, guys, and
if that's the case, you know,

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maybe you find entertainment from you know, sometimes things just appearing to be a

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sin filled episode. But whoever texted
this in earlier, you're right, and

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I'm glad you brought it up.
I tried to be spontaneous in a major

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way one time, and my wife
shot me down. Put a put a

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holt on those plans, John,
This actually came up long before you and

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I worked together, really, but
I think I might have mentioned it on

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the show before. But when I
turned thirty, I was dead set on

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this. I was going to rent
a car and drive across the country and

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then you know, turn it turn
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don't know, in Utah, Nevada, something like that. Maybe go all

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the way to California and fly back, and you know, she talked me

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out of doing it. I'm not
she you know, she didn't want to

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go, not be in the car
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kids as well? No, if
you know prean kids, I don't see

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the harm in it. Well,
I you know, I we had our

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wed, our daughter, and she
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I don't know when did I turn
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be thirty six, so I guess
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Yeah, So you know, she
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at the time, I didn't have
a lot of vacations. So if I

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was gonna if I was gonna take
that time off, we were gonna do

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something together, you know what I
mean. And like, I turned thirty

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that summer, and I felt like
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I wanted to do something cool to
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kind of cap off my twenties.
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you don't have to go, I'm
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end up talking to me into doing
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trips we go to like every year. Almost. It was still fun because

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we always have a good time together. But that was like the most spontaneous

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thing I really you know, was
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she said no. So I'm still
gonna do that one day. I

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don't know when. Maybe maybe it'll
be a forty year old thing and not

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a thirty maybe ten years later.
It sounds like a midlife crisis style of

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trip. If you ask me,
well, maybe you should do it when

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you're forty. Why do you say
that, because maybe that's a harsh term

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to use, but like because it's
just it's a very uncommon thing to do,

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to just pack up and say,
you know, I'm gonna go across

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the country. Well, I think
I would say the if somebody's like,

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hey, let's plan a trip,
You're right, I don't think that comes

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to mind. Let's just rent a
car and drive. I mean that's you

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know, Plus you talk about how
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I hate long drives with kids in
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But what I would do on this
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I'm gonna keep mentioning this here and
there, and you're gonna want to

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go with me when by the time
we get there, because you're gonna be

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like, Nick, You're so right, that'd be so awesome. They'd be

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cool. But maybe when you turn
thirty, we'll do it. But I

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would know, Okay, this day, I'm gonna be in the car four

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or five hours and this is where
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stay the night there somewhere and we'll
take in whatever that city is. Next

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day, maybe we'd have a longer
trip and we end up somewhere else.

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Next day we end up on the
shorter side again four to five hours,

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and you know, there's destinations along
the way, and you know, it's

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a journey, if you know what
I'm saying. Like it's it's like the

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constantly moving you're you know, you're
look, there's going to the beach and

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just hanging out of the beach all
week is cool. Going to Disney,

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that's cool too. But the journey
of a cross country road trip has always

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intrigued me just because I've learned,
you know, even when I travel by

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myself, when I used to be
as they call a road warrior, not

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really, but the before you know, the world kind of you know,

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crashed when COVID happened that basketball season. I didn't drive everywhere. Some of

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the trips I took, you know, via airline, but you know,

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I was traveling a lot, and
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you know, journey type thing,
like you know, there's just things that

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that you know, come up along
the way. You know, I can't

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sell it, like, you know, you wouldn't believe what happened to me

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at this gas station in North Carolina, But you know, it's just it's

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an experience. Again, it's more
of a journey than you know, a

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vacation, and I think that can
be fun. And you know, I've

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had some of my best not to
say that these are great stories because I'm

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just such a funny guy, but
I've had some really interesting things to share

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that people still occasionally bring up now
from when I've travel you know, for

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the show. So like if I
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do it like on I mean,
I would do it and do the show

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every day wherever I was, just
because I think that could be kind of

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cool. So yeah, like if
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I usually wouldn't ever do that.
But like I'm stopping like I'm you know,

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not just because I don't want to
be in the card that long,

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but like I this makes it's another
you know, added to the list,

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John, because you know, I
used to give you a hard time about

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some of the things that you know
are on your list of things that are

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just you know, it's it's it's
a reach and it's an exaggeration to say

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they're psychopathic. But you know,
just things that you do as far as

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you know, you know, interest, that kind of stuff that others would

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think is odd. I've got a
list. I think everybody has something that

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they really enjoy or you know,
something that they do, a preference they

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have that they know others would think
is weird. I would love to just

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randomly not know where I am stopping
at town for the night, you know,

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get beer, go to the local
watering hole, have a night in

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like, not know anything about what
I'm doing, Like just the spontaneousness of

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it, you know, would it
be fun? Who knows? Maybe it

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would be very uneventful, but just
like that kind of like just you know,

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and there's something to say about being
lost in a place here, unfamiliar

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with and you don't have to worry
about what's going on around you because you

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have no prior tax to where you're
at. Yes, and that's it's just

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going in completely raw. That sounded
sound she said, that sounded bad,

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but you know you know what I
mean. So like if I said,

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hey, we're going to have to
do a night in uh Telopa, Tupelo,

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Mississippi. I'm Mountain, Michigan.
I'm going to thank you out never

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heard of it, but you know
what, they're going to remember us,

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which is all a lie. I
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be crazy. I would probably you
know, go get a nice meal,

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have a beer or two and go
home. But just knowing like I could,

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they don't know anything about me,
I could. I could, really,

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I could really give Iron Mountain,
Michigan a night of their life because

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they've they've got me here, and
you know again it's all it's all all

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illusion, it's not reality, but
it's just you know, I think it

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could be fun and one day I'm
gonna do it. I promise you,

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I'm gonna do it, all right. What I need to do ten minutes

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in here is catch you guys up
with a very busy afternoon that we've had,

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so if you missed it. At
four thirty, we talked with Terrence

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Edwards Junior aka Fat that's his nickname. I'm not insulting him. Great conversation,

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you know, he he really emphasized
a few things throughout the conversation.

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Pat Kelsey's a winner and Terrence Edwards
Junior is somebody that believes in Pat Kelsey

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and his message is the same.
He knows they're gonna win, and you

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know, he talked a little bit
about his game, talked a little bit

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about the first impression with Pat Kelsey
and if you missed, it'll be up

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on the podcast a little bit later
if you want to check it out.

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But also, do we start with
football basketball? I think we should start

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with with football just because it's it's
more fresh, just because the portal,

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you know, Spring portal is I
mean, hey both, I think both

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basketball and football right now now,
it's actually pretty equal as far as interest

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levels and Louisville fans wanting to make
sure that their football team is you know,

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in good shape, and the guys
that are leaving after just getting here

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in December aren't going to be you
know, it's not gonna be catastrophic that

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they're not around anymore. And then
on the basketball side, I think it's

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more exciting because you know, you
landed Corin Johnson yesterday, a nice addition,

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and it certainly looks as if you
know, there's there's there's some things

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in motion to where they've they've they're
in enough with a handful of players that

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have visited or going to visit that
they'd have to kind of miss out on

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like a bunch of dudes to not
have this roster you know, not finalized,

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but you know, closer to it
within the next week or so.

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So that's exciting. But if you
missed it, you know, with something

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we just talked about at the end
of the four o'clock hour, but I

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know a lot of people are just
jumping in their car just being able to

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to take in the coffee and company
experience right around five o'clock. But Jaden

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Quaintance a name we've talked about quite
a bit, I mean, in this

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earlier somebody last night at my son's
baseball game said, I feel like that's

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the longest you've talked about a high
school recruit on your show in a long

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time. And I got to think, and you know what, You're probably

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right, and it's because this is
a very special player, top ten guy,

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but Louisville being so bad lately in
the last couple of years, and

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then Pat Kelsey being able to get
this young man to take his first official

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visit after decommitting from Kentucky to Louisville
with really no prior connection. You know,

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I know it's lame to celebrate getting
a guy to visit when he doesn't

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commit, but I just think circumstance
is considered here. Like, I still

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think that's a good look for Pat
Kelsey, and I think they've got a

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shot to get him. And if
you'd have told me yesterday that we would

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have an update on his recruitment,
I just assumed it would be that he's

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going to Arkansas. Well that's not
the update. So right before the show

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started today we learned that he is
he's actually no longer considering Arkansas, and

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at that time, the report was
this, he just finished up his visit

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to Louisville, which I assume means
that they're in consideration. He's going to

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visit Memphis this weekend and that Kentucky
would be in to see him. Mark

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Pope was going to have an inn
home visit with Jaden Quaint's. Well,

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now we know that that visit's not
happening anymore, and I don't think Kentucky's

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in consideration. So now it's Memphis
in Louisville. And I mean, I

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am I wrong? Like I know
that Memphis wins these battles. I know

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they've got in il money. But
the majority of what I'm seeing on the

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text line and on you know,
social media, mostly Twitter, is everybody

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just assuming that he's going to go
to Memphis and Louisville won't be able to

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get him because of money. And
what am I missing? Like, I

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know Penny does a really good job
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not counting out Pat Kelsey just yet. Now, if it comes down to

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an insane amount of money and Penny
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is just going to decide to use
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so be it. But if they
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even though we now know that true
freshman, especially this kid he's sixteen years

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old, Like their impact when they
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different now than what it was a
few years ago, and maybe that'll change

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down the line. But either like
it would, it would be the momentum

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that you could get from this kind
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And I'm not trying to get anybody's
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act as if well Memphis is involved, we can't get him. So we'll

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see, we'll see, We'll see
how uh see how it shakes out.

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Also another uh, you know,
another name that we can add to the

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list here on the Louisville side,
Great Osibor, who is a Utah State

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transfer. One of the best players
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good player last year in his one
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and uh transferred initially from Montana State. Kentucky and Washington I think have always

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been believed to be the likely landing
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I mean, I I just Kentucky
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way off and they're cocky. I
just there's been enough noise that he's going

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to Kentucky that I think they just
assumed that I did too well. They

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he may end up going there.
But he's also going to visit Louisville too,

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So April twenty ninth through May will
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he'll visit Louisville. He'll leave Lexington
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and stay till the third. So
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commits to Kentucky on the visit.
He'll be in Louisville for Oaks and for

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Derby, and and you know that's
that's a good thing for Louisville. And

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you know it's you know, if
if Mark Pope wants to associate the trip

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to you know, to Churchill Downs
because of what's going on, just to

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kind of sell it, you know, like would that be frowned upon?

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Like is that him moving in on
like Pat Kelsey's turf. Obviously the Kentucky

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Derby Churchill Downs is not just a
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get interesting and maybe this ends up
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real, the first battle where these
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maybe not head to head, because
he's also considering Washington, as I mentioned,

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he's gonna visit there too. Uh. And then Also, he's gonna

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visit Texas Tech in between there,
so we'll see another name, Wesley Yates.

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at Washington. He did not play
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injury, so he red shirted.
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top forty player in the twenty twenty
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we speak. And you know,
everybody seems to think that he's gonna pick

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Louisville. And if that's the case, that's another good addition. This is

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not somebody that's ever played college basketball, but certainly, you know, a

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good prospect that although he didn't play. I'm not really sure the extent of

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his injury as far as how much
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when you've got thirteen scholarships to give
when you arrive and you know, here

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we are on April twenty third,
with a handful of them still available.

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In fact, you know more than
half of them still available. If you

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can go get a top forty kid
that didn't play last year because of injury,

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but you know, you still see
the upside. I mean, that's

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it's different if that's the guy you
get when you have two scholarships to use

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in the portal. I mean,
it still would be a gooddition because again,

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last I checked, turning down top
forty players is you know, a

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rare thing. But I just I
think fans on the Louisville side are starting

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to understand that, Like, we
don't have to go get a guy that's

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average twenty five and eight, because
if you get you know, a productive

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guy, that's a nice piece.
And I don't think all these guys are

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just going to be, you know, nice pieces. I think, you

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know, Terrence Salwards Junior is going
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success if of course, you know, they have success. But very very

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busy, busy day and I have
days where I'm like, man, I

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can't do this, not the show, like you know, that's not what

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I mean, But it's just hard
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even if it is a little amount
of time, like to really get in

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and you know, in the thick
of it, in the weeds and you

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know, read message boards and you
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when I do it it's really a

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waste of time. But then again, I do think there's clearly some you

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know, this is an unusual situation
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is because it's it's it's brand new. And again both coaches Mark pot Pat

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Kelsey are building brand new teams from
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or each piece you hear about that could

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be added. I think there's there's
there's more excitement there then, you know,

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than you would usually have. All
Right, we'll get to the football

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stuff coming up here on the other
side, just because it's it's going to

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take longer than what I have here, but we can go to the phone

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lines. Five two five seven seventy
nine hundred is the number if you want

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to give us a call again.
Five O two five seven one seventy nine

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hundred. Uh, let's go to
Let's go to Steve. Steve, you're

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on Sports Talk seven ninety. How
are you, sir? You know,

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I don't know if you saw the
article, and I'm not even sure where

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I heard this, but you know, up not ups, but FedEx was

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founded in Memphis. Yeah, it
was Fred Smith and apparently are are they

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prepared to dump twenty five million dollars
into to push twenty five So Memphis.

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What I saw last week, Steve
was from I believe somebody that works for

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twenty four seven sports. Yeah,
here it is. Memphis and FedEx have

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partnered on a gigantic nil deal,
FedEx investing five million annually for five years.

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It will be initially, yeah,
it'll be, it says. It'll

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initially be focused on football and men's
and women's basketball, and then additional women's

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sports could be added. So that's
that's a big resource within IL, no

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doubt about it. It is.
And what I think the interesting somebody one

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of these days maybe will do a
study. Do you think most of these

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kids are going after the money and
they don't care about you know, the

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tradition of the program that recruiting them. Are they facilities or anything else.

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It's all about the money right now. I'm wondering how many of these kids

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are just focused on those dollars instead
of other factors, extrinsing values and stuff

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like that. You know what I
would guess, Steve, just a guess

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here. One. I don't think
we'll ever get the honest truth because it's

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never a good look for anybody to
say it's all about the money when we

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all deep down know that money is
a motivator for everybody to to a great

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extent, I would get I would
guess that high school kids, they are

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not as much wrapped up in the
money because most of these people have never

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really had to understand what money is. I mean, they know, they

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know, they know dollar amounts,
but if you've never really had to pay

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your mortgage and all that, like
and think about, you know, providing

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for yourself, like you know what
money is, but you're probably just dreaming

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about the NBA. I think college
kids who transfer are well aware that they're

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transferring because they don't have the option
to go to the NBA. So I

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think those guys it really is about
putting as much money away as they can

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before they start that next chapter of
their life, which likely won't be the

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NBA. And you can go make
a good living, uh, playing professionally

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in a lot of places. But
you know some of these price tags that

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are on these transfers from these big
name schools, I mean there's guys that'll

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make more money in one year of
NIL than they would in three seasons.

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In Europe, I mean, that's
that's just the reality of it. Plus

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you don't have to be uh,
you know, deplaced and set overseas or

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over sure and you live like a
rock star, live like a rock star

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right here. So all right.
I appreciate your thank you, Steve.

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I appreciate the phone call man,
appreciate the kind word. It's good to

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hear from you. Don't be a
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It'd be really interesting to know truly
what led to some of these decisions,

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because I maybe I'm naive. I
think there are guys that have taken

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like that have gone to a school
that was not paying them what they you

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know, the highest offer they got
just because you know, if you're going

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like for example, like there's probably
guys that go to Georgia Alabama in football

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Ohio State. Maybe that probably got
a bigger offer from Texas A and M,

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but they know that, like you
know, they're probably going to have

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more success and probably going to develop
better at a place that you know,

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those places are essentially NFL factories.
So I don't know, like that's he's

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got me thinking, just because you
know, I find myself at times really

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just obsessing over things that will never
truly know the answer to because I'm just

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you know, my head operates differently
than others, I guess. But I

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think money will only be more of
a factor as this continues to grow unless

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something changes, you know. I
think it'd be great if they had a

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stipend available, and they did that
before, but I mean like stipend that's

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you know, clearly like a lot
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what they were they used to get, and it would just be a known

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thing and this is what you get. This is what it is, and

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it's a great situation for you.
You're not paid based off your performance,

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You're not going to be fired,
but this is what we can offer you,

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and it can be reset after two
years or something like that. That

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would that would calm things down,
but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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All Right, we got to get
to a break. I apologize here

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for going so late, but we'll
come back. Keep this thing rolling along

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into the text line and we will
talk football. Because looks like Petty Boone

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is making the rather short trip up
to Lexi than to finish his career after

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you know, being at Loeuilver for
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I know some of our podcast listeners, you know, feel disconnected when we

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talk to the music that John plays
when we come back from break because you

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know they can't hear it. But
this is actually a perfect transfer portal song,

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is it not? It is?
I don't know I've ever heard it.

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I'm I'm familiar with who it is. That's Acon, right, Akon

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and flow Rider. Yeah, I'm
available, come get me. There's a

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lot of players available, and I
mean with Louisville, I don't want to

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get anybody's hopes up and mislead them
like I have any inside information. But

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I mean, I wouldn't be shocked
if you see Wesley Yates, the kid

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who's visiting right now, or maybe
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a hybrid big. He's six's
seven, but he can kind of do

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a little bit of everything, especially
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know, I wouldn't be shocked if
those guys popped in the next forty eight

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hours. Last time I said that, which was yesterday, we came back

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from break and it happened. So
I'm sure that won't happen now. But

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exciting times, no doubt. All
right, let's talk football. Some would

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say not so exciting times, and
I get it. So I mentioned this

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at the very beginning of the show
for those of you that missed it.

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Louisville is once again losing players in
the portal who arrived after the twenty twenty

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three season ended, were on campus
for a few months, went through springball

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at least some of them, and
have now decided to leave. And Penny

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Boone was the first, as far
as a guy that just got here that

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is leaving. And he's really the
only one that I know of that there

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was real expectation to be a big
time factor. He went through spring and

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you know Cheney, the Miami transfer
rung back, he was ahead of him,

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and there's other guys that were probably
on certain days ahead of him.

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I mean, it was very competitive. He wasn't like he was a bum,

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but I think he envisioned himself being
the man here and there was competition

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and it just didn't work out that
way. So he left, and you

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know that's his choice. I think
it says a little more about him than

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anything else, because it's not as
if it was told to him, Look,

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you're probably going to be a third
string, so just letting you know.

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I mean, it was the head
to compete, and I wouldn't claim

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that this guy is afraid of competition, because you know, I don't know

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him, but the optics make it
look as if he either didn't want to

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compete or felt disrespected that there was
going to be competition, which just can't

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be the approach. I mean,
you know, that's just not how it

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works really anywhere, to be honest
with you. So he left and initially

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was going to go visit Washington that
didn't happen. Then was going to go

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visit Ole Miss that's not happening,
and then Kentucky got involved. I think

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he visited Kentucky yesterday, and then
Georgia appeared. Is an option now they're

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not. So the predictions from you
know, those that covered college football and

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the transfer portal at on three and
at twenty four seven sports now expect Penny

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Boon to just head up sixty four
or is it over to sixty four?

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I mean it's east of us,
so I guess it's you know, he's

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going to head east on sixty four
and go play for Mark Stoops, which

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I mean, good luck to him. I mean I'm not now bothered that

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law. I mean, I'm not
here thinking Louisville now is you know,

412
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just gonna have a nightmare season in
Kentucky's going to be great because they added

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Penny Boon. I mean, Kentucky
added an Ohio State transfer at running back

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a few months ago that Penny Boon's
going to have to compete with. And

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you know, if he couldn't surpass
Donald Cheney and even you know, Murray's

416
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turner, then you know, we'll
see I know he's he actually does kind

417
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of fit. You know, he's
a big he's a big back, and

418
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they run the ball really well at
Kentucky. But you know, he's probably

419
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.160
just gonna be one of the pieces
unless he ends up being like a star,

420
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which maybe he is, and if
he goes to Kentucky, he's a

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star, and like, let's just
say he's like a big factor in the

422
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Governor's Cup and Louisville loses, Yeah, that's gonna be a tough. Look,

423
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it's gonna be a tough That would
be a really tough thing to deal

424
00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:37.359
with. But it still wouldn't mean
that like somebody messed up here, because

425
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:44.400
again, guys can do whatever the
hell they want now, and it's just

426
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.240
because you know, maybe they just
woke up and said, you know what,

427
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I don't want to be here anymore. And they can do that,

428
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:53.079
and you want to blame somebody because
that's the previous world that is no longer

429
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in existence in regards to college sports, like players have all the power.

430
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:03.400
They can do whatever they want,
They can go whenever they want, and

431
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:08.359
they can transfer as many times they
can, you know they can. They

432
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can. They can hold your ransom
in a way right like, hey,

433
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I need more money, coach,
I can't talk to you about that.

434
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.640
I'm that's not allowed. Uh well
you got to figure it out. I'm

435
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.799
leaving and then they leave like that's
you know, I'm not saying that that's

436
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.279
what these guys that are leaving did, but that's just that's that. That

437
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:26.880
is what they can do now.
I mean, do you think, you

438
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.720
know, if you're somebody that is
bothered about Penny Boon and wish that he

439
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.519
was still at KU or still at
Louisville, what do you wish Louisville would

440
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.279
have done? Like what do you
wish in il folks the five of two

441
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:38.640
circle or broad like, what do
you think they could have done to prevent

442
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:42.960
this make him the first string running
back when he's clearly in practice, not

443
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:45.960
you know, far ahead of anybody. I mean again, he was behind.

444
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.680
I don't know if there was a
big gap, but Donald Cheney from

445
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.559
Miami was the best running back,
was running back number one during spring and

446
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.880
who was behind him? I don't
know. Maurice Turner. I know he

447
00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.920
had a really good spring and I
heard he was, you know, slightly

448
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:06.000
ahead of Penny Boon and it's not
like that. You know, you could

449
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.079
be the third string running back and
potentially have a game where you get the

450
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bulk of the carries because it's your
day. I mean, it's I don't

451
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.880
want to say everybody does it by
committee, but maybe that's what Penny but

452
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.160
didn't realize because you know, I'm
pretty sure he was the guy that got

453
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.079
about every carry in the Mac at
Toledo, I mean, not all of

454
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.279
them. But you know, last
year Louisville they used a trio of backs

455
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.279
at times like Murray's. Turner didn't
have a great year. Actually thought he'd

456
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.119
have a better year. I know
he was injured early on, but you

457
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:34.720
know, even when both healthy,
which was not up you know, it

458
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.640
didn't happen often. Louisville used a
good, a good, healthy dose of

459
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.000
Grindo and Jordan, and I think
a lot of schools do that. Now,

460
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:42.599
clearly there's going to be a guy
that, you know, is a

461
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.960
better NFL prospect, a guy that
probably is going to end up week in

462
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.680
and week out having more carries.
But I just don't think from what I

463
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.079
understand, and I'm sure there could
be information out there that I don't know,

464
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.400
but the optics of this are gonna
be we lost our running back to

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Kentucky. And some will say it's
because of the you know, not Louisville

466
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:08.480
not having the money they claim,
which is alive. And some will say

467
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.119
it's because, you know, he
realized Louisville's not any good and he wanted

468
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.359
to go to Kentucky. Which again, this kid didn't leave to go to

469
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:21.079
Kentucky. He has, he has, you know, he put his name

470
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.839
in the portal, and I don't
think there's many schools that can give him

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00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.599
what he wants or will give him
what he wants. In Kentucky, they

472
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.599
wanted add another running back. They
were going to get one of the visitors

473
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.079
in I don't know. I can't
remache what it was. But they were

474
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.160
in line to get a visit from
one of the better running backs in the

475
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.319
portal post Spring, and that visit
got canceled because I think they committed elsewhere.

476
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:38.480
So again, like I just it's
not like I'm, you know,

477
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.119
defending Brom at all costs, as
if there's no way anybody could be mad

478
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.519
at him. I just realistically want
to know what could be done in this

479
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.200
situation. Is is the way it
appears, and what I just laid out

480
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:56.119
what could be done to change that? On on Brom's side, the collective

481
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.440
side. I mean, I just
think this is a guy that you know

482
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.599
had, you know, had some
demands that you know weren't going to be

483
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.920
met and shouldn't have been met.
Now here is something that is problematic,

484
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.279
and like if you're Jeff Brahm,
like you may have the you may have

485
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.559
the anger here to want to pick
up the phone and you know, yell

486
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.319
at somebody at the n c OFALA
because this kid just went through Spring,

487
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.799
like he knows your entire playbook and
now he's going to go play for your

488
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.279
rival. Now that game is not
a conference game, it's the last game

489
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:27.240
of the year, like you can
get around it, but like just that's

490
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.119
that's just gross that that's now what
they can but out again, like the

491
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:36.000
players went from having no power,
no ability to do anything, and now

492
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:41.279
they can do whatever they want.
It's a new world. So for those

493
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.400
worried that Louisville, you know,
may not have enough at running back,

494
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.200
I actually think they do, but
you know, it's unproven. Certainly.

495
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.000
Louisville is apparently one of the schools
early in on Dylan Edwards, who's transferring

496
00:29:53.000 --> 00:30:00.160
from Colorado, because one of the
top running backs at Ohio State decided to

497
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.680
transfer. And now he's actually he's
a really good running back, the kid

498
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.440
from Ohio State. But now,
you know, I think there's two potential

499
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.839
first round draft picks also on that
roster at running backs. So he looked

500
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.160
he left and he's now going to
Colorado. So there's a lot of musical

501
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.359
chairs going on with the running backs, and it sounds like Jeff Brohm is

502
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:18.200
going to, you know, try
to get one of those guys, and

503
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.440
if he doesn't, you know,
maybe that is a real concern heading in

504
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.200
the next year. But I happen
to think they have some pretty capable ball

505
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.599
carriers. I mean, guys that
could be pretty damn good, but you

506
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:36.559
can never have too much talent that
that position and depth. So real quick,

507
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:37.720
a couple of other names I wanted
to get to, because if you

508
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.920
haven't heard about it yet, you
probably will hear soon if you're a Louisville

509
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.240
fan that tries to stay plugged in
on what's going on with the never ending

510
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:51.160
portal. But two players did the
exact same thing that Penny Boon did.

511
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:56.200
Arrived on campus, went through spring, took in il, and decided to

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00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.079
leave. And I think these are
also guys that you really you know,

513
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.880
I mean, I don't know who
you want to be mad at, Like

514
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.200
I don't know who's to blame.
Wesley Walker transferred from Tennessee and he was

515
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.319
not even on the two deep,
so third string guy in the spring,

516
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:17.839
and he decided to leave. And
his stepbrother Tyler Barron also transfer from Tennessee

517
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.240
and he did not participate in spring, I think because of injury. And

518
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:22.119
he was a big git, trust
me, he's a guy that was very

519
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.599
productive in the SEC. Would have
been a big time edition. But I

520
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.519
think these two were a package deal
and now they're both leaving they're probably going

521
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.480
to Old Miss because they were initially
committed Old Miss before they ended up going

522
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:37.720
to flipping to Louisville. So we'll
see, you know, maybe you know,

523
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.039
maybe that'll be one that's you know, especially Baron. Maybe he's a

524
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.759
guy that will wish was still here. But I would imagine guy like Wesley

525
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.440
Walker just just just a guess,
wouldn't shock me at all if he left

526
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.599
Tennessee not being able to really you
know, make a huge impact, and

527
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.200
thought he would become the Louisville and
that you know, I'll be I'll be

528
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.039
first string when I walk in because
you know I'm played in the SEC.

529
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.279
This is Louisville. Well, uh, m J. Griffin he he,

530
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:06.079
he was, you know, for
those who don't know m J. Griffin

531
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:07.240
is, I'm sure you do if
you're a Louisville fan. He was supposed

532
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.680
to. He was supposedly the best
defensive player on Louisville's team last year in

533
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.440
fall camp, and they loved him. He initially transferred from Temple and he

534
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:16.680
got hurt, did not play at
all, and now he's healthy and he's

535
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.599
really good. But it wasn't just
him, I mean again, Wesley Walker

536
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.359
from an understand was the third was
third string guy in his position, which

537
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.319
I'm not saying that to like be
disrespectful and and you know, talk crap

538
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.359
about him. But if I was
him, I may do the same thing,

539
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.480
because I don't want to be third
string somewhere. I mean, I'd

540
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.200
like to think I would have the
maturity and the belief in myself to want

541
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.720
to compete. But you know,
maybe he was quite literally aware that there's

542
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.359
no scenario I would ever get meaningful
reps here because of where I stand.

543
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.480
I don't know, We'll never know. And it's just, you know,

544
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:51.039
it's not a good look at all. But maybe not a good look is

545
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.920
not the right way to describe because
me saying not a good look, I

546
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.960
do feel like you're in you're insinuating
there's somebody that it's to blame for this,

547
00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.559
But you know, optics aren't great. Situation is not positive. But

548
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.440
I don't think you could point fingers
at anybody on the Louisville side and claim

549
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.000
that they dropped the ball and mess
this up somehow. Guys don't want to

550
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.319
be recruited, and if they don't
want to join a program when they're in

551
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:16.599
the portal to be depth. They
want to be the guy, and I

552
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:20.400
think some guys got here and learned
that you know, you'll play, you're

553
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.359
in the mix, but you know
your depth. You're not the starter,

554
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.400
and you can maybe go earn it
in the fall. But like that's just

555
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.160
you know, And I doubt that
they give you like a daily update on

556
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.640
where you stand, because honestly,
that wouldn't even be a wise thing to

557
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:36.759
do because it could just maybe make
them think that, Okay, well now

558
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:38.079
I'm screwed. I thought i'd be
here and be a starter, and I'm

559
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:42.440
not right now, so I'm out. And if they do make that quick

560
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.680
decision, then it's probably best for
them to walk away. But one thing

561
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.839
I wanted to mention real quick before
we get to our final break. Lane

562
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.680
Kiffin quite the character, right.
He did something that was, you know,

563
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.759
against not something you typically see,
but actually think it was a wise

564
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.519
thing to do. They didn't even
have a spring game like they had an

565
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:06.319
event, never posted a depth chart. They did like seven on seven tournaments

566
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.599
with skilled players O Line and D
Line. I think they had like a

567
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.079
tug of war competition. There was
a hot dog any contest where I think

568
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.239
I don't think it was Lane Kiffin, but they brought in Joey Chestnut,

569
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:20.239
and I'm sure that's Lane Kiffin just
being the character that he is. But

570
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.119
I think it's smart. Don't give
anybody indication of where they stand in spring

571
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.559
ball because they may up and leave, and again it could help you weed

572
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:32.079
out. But then again, like
I like that these guys have the ability

573
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.639
to make that is, to make
their own decision that impacts their future,

574
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.679
because they should be able to do
that. But I also understand that it's

575
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.719
an easy out for all of them, and they may be better off as

576
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.159
human beings as players if they did, in fact use this as motivation to

577
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.199
get better and want to compete.
That sounds you know, that sounds like

578
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.360
I'm an old man, But like
that's just the reality of it, all

579
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.199
right, quick break will come back
on the other side. Final segment,

580
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:01.440
Coffee and Company, Phil Beth Thorton's
on SportsTalk seven ninety so. I mentioned

581
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.159
this earlier but never actually got to
it. That happens from time to time,

582
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.440
the changes coming to college football.
I mean, they'll they'll be noticed.

583
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.960
Usually they'll make it, you know, change here and there and either

584
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.280
get used to it really quickly,
or it's something that you really don't notice

585
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:20.039
unless you're paying like super close attention. But they've they've the NSTAFA has approved

586
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.280
a set of rule changes, uh
that'll really make it look a lot more

587
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.639
like the NFL. There's going to
be a two minute warning, which that

588
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.280
alone is going to be a lot
different. And they're also going to adopt

589
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.599
helmet communication for the FBS level.
So the two minute warning is it's not

590
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.960
going to result in a in an
additional TV timeout because there's already enough of

591
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.360
those right in the games last forever. So there'll be two minutes and I

592
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.559
guess they'll just, you know,
killy, you know, the announcers will

593
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:51.639
have to fill that time until the
two minutes is up. And I didn't

594
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:53.320
know that that was what they were
really pushing for, but uh, you

595
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.480
know, I'm sure it'll be beneficial
to a lot of people in late game

596
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.239
situations, uh you know, where
they get, you know, to get

597
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.000
a chance to reset. Now,
the use of helmet communication is going to

598
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.880
be limited to the FBS levels to
begin with, meaning you know, the

599
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.159
higher level, not NCAA, D
two, D three that kind of stuff.

600
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.639
But you are going to be able
to use sideline tablets at all three

601
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.440
divisions, so you weren't able to
do that previously, I suppose. But

602
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:22.320
the helmet communication was talked about a
lot, and it's almost a carbon copy

603
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.519
of how the NFL does it.
So one player for each team can be

604
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:30.360
on the field wearing a helmet with
the communication technology at a time. The

605
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.400
helmets with the communication tech in them
are going to be marked with a green

606
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.199
sticker on the back of the helmet
so they can see who has that,

607
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.679
and I guess that's exactly how the
NFL does it. But just like the

608
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.599
NFL, also, the communication from
sideline to player is going to cut off

609
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.360
when there's fifteen seconds left on the
play clock or when the ball is snapped,

610
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whichever one happens first. So as
someone who again you know, have

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not played college football competitively, I
mean I would know, it sounds like

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players, coaches, everybody involved feel
like this is like, this is huge,

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this is good, especially the technology, which really made no sense that

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you could do it everywhere kind of
but the college level. How long until

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a team tries to utilize this in
an illegal way by allowing every helmet to

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have this How long until Michigan does
it? I should say, well you

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can. It's only one you mean, like, how long until they figure

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out a way to like get away
with everybody? Communicate it all? I

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mean, there'll be somebody doing it. What's the guy's name, Connor Stallions.

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It's right, mister Stallions. You
know he's already putting together a plan

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to pitch to somebody to be their
guy. Right, I'll help you.

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I'll help you cheat like I did
Michigan, you know, d green stick

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of my ass. Yeah, yeah, drop the bag and we'll make it

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work. Right. I mean we'll
never know, but like you could make

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the case that like Harball literally went
from being pretty good but getting dominated about

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by Ohio State to flipping the script, winning a national championship, owning Ohio

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State for a few years, all
because of the man known as Connor Stallions.

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All Right, we were at a
time, you guys, enjoy your

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meaning. We're back at it tomorrow
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