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know, I see the fans chiming for the one you promised last year.
Well again, I didn't promise it last year. I promised we'll do it.
I will do the Smash Pros poll after they finish adding all the characters,
and Kingdom Hearts is the final character, right as far as I know.
So, yeah, there's h What are you gonna say. There was
a couple of people in the comments and you announced, Michael, they're like
Smash bro Smash Ros because on record in public you said like we were doing
that. So I think people are expecting that it's gonna happen. It's gonna
happen. But then someone gave me the great idea of a Christmas poll.
I thought, you know it only comes once a year. We can do
Smash any time of the year after Christmas, so I feel like Christmas like
needs to happen. You gotta get Harry, you gotta get Marv. There.
Yeah, we got a good like this is some spots, but I
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for Chick, You came back for Spiral. How can we forget about Spiral?
Yeah? Top ten of the year. Yeah, I mean, and
then I did all the Harry Potter retros, but that's a bit different.
But I think, I mean, Tenant is the last time I've been to
a theater before a couple of days ago. So yeah, you start off,
sir, what do you think about I almost said Tenant? What do
you think about Dune? Yeah? So I I feel like I went into
this movie pretty blind. Like for the most part, I was interested in
this movie because of the director alone, and I kind of even remember,
like what the what trailer I have seen it, like would have been probably
two years ago or something or whenever that first teaser was. That was probably
the only thing I've seen. I can't even remember what was in that.
So I really wasn't sure what to expect really at all. And like I
said, I haven't been to a theater and over like a year and two
months or so, so I've been very much out of the game. And
I haven't really seen that many new movies this year, like maybe I don't
know, maybe five or so, Like I haven't really watched that many movies
this year other than blasting through all the Harry Potters. So yeah, I
went in little expectation and wow, I love this movie. This is this
is my favorite movie I've seen in Like I can't even think of the last
time I've been as into a movie as I was at the theater watching this
one. I think the whole experience of it was super immersive, like the
theater I was at the audio, Like there's a couple of moments I'll shout
out later on in the spoiler section. But man, being in the theater
for this movie in particular was just the best experience. It's such a cinematic
experience, and like the sound is so intense that it just added to so
many scenes. I think overall, Like, really, what I liked about
this movie is that it's just pure atmosphere, which is what this direcord does,
plus the soundtrack, the score, and then it's just world building,
tons and tons of world building, and I loved it. I found this
is just such an interesting world. This is like I can't think the last
time I got up a movie theater. I'm like, man, I just
want to google everything about this world. I want to learn about everything there
is to know, and you know, maybe I'll go read the books or
something. I think I'll wait and see if a part two is coming at
some point before I do that. But if there is no second movie that
I'll probably go back and read the books or something because I am so interested
in this world. I love this movie from the start to finish. I
don't think I have a single negative thing to say about it. I love
this movie so very much. Ow there it goes. I like it.
Tay Field I'm interested to hear what you thought, because you always use one
word about a movie when you're maybe not the biggest fan or something like that.
I always And so, how did you What do you think about Dune?
His first he said some good things, I think, but then it
was long. And I feel like I've heard Hereditary described as long in Midsummar,
because Hereditary is not that long, but you described it, you know,
I at, that's a long movie. It's a hobskip and a jump.
But subs, I thought you were about to say it was a four
point five out of ten. I was like, Jesus Man, that's a
that's some tough scoring there, but I have a five point system. I
respect that. Naylor Field, what do you think about Dune? I don't
remember even calling him long, but it is a long movie. I mean,
I can't deny that, but it was great. Like I remember,
we got flack for not knowing what Dune was by someone ages ago. We
got all the books. We were in big trouble, and you know what
I don't. I don't know what this world was. I don't know what
it is. I I hear tell things about Dune previous times, but we
got the film and again experiencing what was displayed on screen was just visually mesmerizing.
Uh, it was just so uh you know these these aren't even spoiler
these are spoiler free. But you, Kirkling, you were asking me some
some phrases and you were you were like you wanted you wanted to hear it.
So I got. I got scared of this movie from the trailers.
I thought I would go in and be totally lost. But I went in
and was able to pick up what was happening that and that's a good thing.
This movie made me feel like I was watching Space of Thrones and it
was wonderful. The details and Space of Thrones, the detail and the spaceships
are truly mystifying. This movie put me into a trance and I feel mesmerized
by its majesty. Ah you down, did you write that down like you're
reading like the write I wrote these down in my notes. These are your
words, these are my words. Yeah, you sound like when they you
sound like when they come to present the movie at the Oscars, like dude,
a mensmerizing thrill ride of a tail. Uh. The other two I
feel like they're spoilers. I'll say that for after. But it's just it's
beautiful. I there you go, thank you. I just trying to do
a quick scroll. It was right in my face. In short, the
screenshot of Gosh Dune was certainly long from Taylor Field. Uh. The movie.
I think everyone needs to watch it. The score delivers, and like
I said, it's not something I feel like you need to know the history
for piggyback on what you said, Dylan. Afterwards, I went and took
to Google. I was looking up the history. I want to learn,
like the origin, like I want to get involved with this world. You
know, my keys were just getting so hot without fast my fingers were tinge
like Bruce Almighty that For some reason, I thought you talking about your car
keys. I had a complete blonde moment, like what do you do with
your car keys? I don't know what Kirkland's gonna say, but I feel
like this is gonna be one of those reviews of people tuned in to be
like here a this is debate, or like, oh man, what are
the takes they have against each other? Pretty much what Dylan and Taylor just
said. I was careful because I didn't want to get spoiler spoiled. But
I did right away. I'm like, Okay, how many books are there?
And I'm not, I don't have time. I do not have time
to read, but like maybe an autobook or something. It did do that
where and Dylan point out some of my favorite movies are the world building aspect,
and for me this is like a good combination of I definitely get the
Game of Thrones, but but for me, it's like a column of like
like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and Mad Max all put together and
it just works. Like Mad at Max, you got like the scope of
like DENI like we saw him blade, wonder what he can do, and
he does it again here Lord of the Rings, where it just is like
a world you want to live in, you know, it's just like whatever,
you could just sit in the shire or for well maybe not in the
Hobbit world, but the Lord of the Rings franchise. You could sit in
that shire for hours. And it has like the epic ness and the very
dramatic stuff of Star Wars, so it all hits. And I don't know,
I've seen the original dude once on TBS, like I don't know,
fifteen years ago. All I know is com mclachlin's and it stings in it
and there's sand people and sandworms and that's about it, you know. I
it's and everyone always says is like it's not a good adaption of the book,
So I never really went back to watch it. So this was just,
Yeah, Taylor said the word mesmerizing. I was just in awe the
whole time. I was just locked in as far as being seen on the
big screen. Man, this is just one of those makes you appreciate and
love it. It's just like the sound and we had this with Boyd around.
I think we show this out a lot, Like the sound design in
that movie is just out of this world. It does it here again Hans
Zimmer between No Time to Die the James Bond movie and this what a year
he's had, And like, I like, this guy is in his sixties,
You think he would have produce his best work. No, man,
like he is, like he is on firing and that's so funny. Thing
like No Time to Die and uh this they sound like Han Zimmer, but
they sound so different. I listened to the gym, like they sound so
completely different. He's fantastic. We already knew the cast would be Stellar,
but yeah, the world building is just it's top tier and it's definitely for
me it's the best movie of the year. My favorite is tough because I
loved Bond, but like for the best missing this year, this is like
a knockout. This to me is a I hope we get more and it
just feels like a start of a franchise that I just want to see a
bunch of and uh yeah, it was just uh, I don't want to
use the word perfect, but it just was such a such a damn good
time. And Denise, We've said this many times, but I just don't
think there's like and I love Nolan, but right now, Denise is like
the king right now, between Blade Runner, Prisoner, Sacario, this like
Arrival, Like this guy is just putting out so much good stuff. It's
just like when's he gonna strikeout? And it will happen. Everybody has a
strike up, but man, he is h It's just created such an amazing
world. So I love it and I can't recommend it enough. I think,
like like anyone, I wouldn't recommend it too. If you don't like
anything above space or sci fi and stuff. If you it is slower at
times, but for me, I like that because it's good. There's lots
of exposition, but doesn't feel like exposition. It's very well done how they
tell in very unique and fun ways, how they do it. So absolutely
love this mess. To me, it was a home run. Kirk Compatzer,
Yeah, I feel like I'll be repeating a lot of what you guys
said. I thought it was like all in all, it was just such
a great introduction to like this world, and I thought it made it easily
digestible for like someone like me who has no idea anything about doing I haven't
read the books, I haven't seen any of the old ones. I haven't
like googled into the worlds at all. Like beforehand, I basically got that
first teaser trailer and I didn't watch any other trailers leading into it. I'm
like, Okay, the scale of this looks insane. I know this is
in my wheelhouse. It's like sci fi. The cast was just phenomenal.
I'm like, hey, this is a day one watch for me. Like,
no matter what, I don't need to look into it at all.
And as Taylor and I were like talking about a while back, like I
was really hoping that it was going to be easy to jump into if I
haven't like researched like the you know, the old ones, or just get
like a very surface level knowledge on the world and the different characters and houses
and just what all this is. And I thought it was so well done
of like Deni and all the movie makers or people that were involved in making
this movie to yeah, just make it easy for general audience members. And
I haven't talked to anyone that's like hardcore into the Dune universe already, like
if they read the books or anything like that, so I don't know how
well it compares to that type of things. But me just speaking on general
audience basically member, I thought it was phenomenal. It looked so good,
the acting was so well done. It was one of those movies I just
didn't want to end. And yeah, I have some issues with certain things,
but I think that's just like a me issue with like some of the
world. But I don't know, maybe well maybe you guys can sway me
over. And we talked about it spoiler section, but yeah, all in
all, I highly recommend seeing this like on the big screen too. I
wish we had Imax if we had IMAX, I think this would be just
like a mind blowing experience. But just where I saw it, it was.
It was such a just fun movie going experience. And I we were
talking about it like off cast, like this was the most packed I'd ever
seen the theaters, like since Covine, So it was pretty cool. Still,
money doesn't show that. No money the opening weekend doesn't show that it's
just in Cologne. It was a huge shit you know. So yeah,
which makes me nervous, Yes, it does. For what this set up.
I just want more and me just knowing that there's not already like a
set part two films or anything like that. Yeah, it makes me nervous
that way because I just need to know more because I thought it was just
such a good first movie. Well, I feel like into maybe this is
your next Facebook poll, you know, who's the BODI of a geek verse?
You know, we'll put that up there to see who the chosen one
is. Uh, Like, I feel it's tough because like me, like
Kirk, I'm still never seen it. But Taylor, I think you quite
enjoyed. But me and Dale, like we love Blade Runner. I think
Dale, that was your favorite movie that year when it came out, and
that was mine right behind Logan, and it's tough because that movie did like
so poorly. I think the only reason they didn't have him filming it back
to back because they're like, well, let's put up one and see how
it does because the last big budget we gave him didn't do well. And
it sucks that it comes out right now where it's still like a you know,
theaters aren't fully open and things like that. You got HBO Max.
Oh not. The only hope. The hope we have is that it continues
to have good word of mouth that opens four and does really well. And
the real hope is that, like on HBO Max, it just does like
killer numbers. And that's the hope of like, well, okay, maybe
in the future when we just put theatrically, it'll make lots of money because
they have already announced that they're doing a show that's happening based on like The
Witches and stuff like that, so there's been many updates about that, but
I think he's producing and maybe directing a pilot, so it I hope it
all works out because I think this does have that capability just seeing from the
word of mouth and talk to you like, has that chance to be like
the next Star Wars, the next Harry Potter. It's just I just hope,
I hope they don't get cold feet because it is an expensive movie.
It's almost like again it's like Blade around. It's almost like two unred million.
I think it's like one aby five or something. It's like oof,
like that's like getting into that like MCU big DC Star Wars movies, you
know, for a movie that only made like forty million dollars this weekend.
So it's it's tough, but I want more anything else non spores. My
girl, Rebecca Ferguson fucking killed it. So, I mean, there's so
many big names in this movie, but like, god, I thought she
was such a standout. Yeah. I honestly, because I had only seen
that first teaser, I kind of forgot that she was in it, and
there was some other characters I kind of forgot there in this movie. But
uh yeah, no, just yeah, she was phenomenal. Yeah, I'm
glad you said that for me. She's definitely the MVP of the ho movie.
Like there's a good performances all around, but she just like knocks out
of the Park and Selman is great too, because it's just it's tough to
play the role. I'll have more saying spoilers, but it's tough to play
this type of role where you're the main character who's kind of like a vessel
of the world. He does have his character stuff, but yeah, anything
non spoilers shot right now. I wanted to ask, since I've been just
completely out of it, what was like, did we know that this was
gonna be a part one? Like what did what did we know in terms
of like what to expect for this not really being like not really spoilers,
but like this isn't really the conclusion of a story. It's more of like
the Fellowship of the Ring starting it off. So what was that known before?
How much of that was known beforehand? It was known he said that
this just adapts the first part of the book, but Warner Brothers was never
like, yes, and we're making part two. I think it is all
depended on the success. So like even at the beginning, this is like
a monus sport, but you people wouldn't care, Like when it has the
title of Dune right below it, then it fades and says part one so
they did the reverse of it, you know when Yeah, but this was
like stick around. But yeah, it's known that he and the cast and
crew, like everyone wants to make a Part two, but it's not being
green light as of this recording. My hope as we wake up Monday morning,
like it's a massive on HBO Max and here we go. But it
was the idea of he did always say we're only adapting the first half the
book. Yeah, so that's interesting. I'm glad that they put it at
the start because, like I said, I wasn't really following that, and
it really set the expectation. I didn't know if we were going to see
like at some point in this movie would say part two and then we'd go
down another section of the story. But for me, since it just said
part one and never like commented on that again, it really set the expectations.
And then I felt like, Okay, this movie, like I knew,
is maybe around just over two hours, Like I feel like we're getting
to that point and there's no way this is getting wrapped up in that amount
of time. M hm. And because they just just that one simple line
part one at the start, I didn't make it feel like I was disappointed.
It just it just worked as an ending for me. So I'm glad
I like the way they did that, rather than if they did the thing,
I probably would have been a bit bummed. Or they just like surprise
sneaking in at the end, which is funny because it ends in a way
where it could be like this is it, like you could watch chapter one
and it never have to watch part two. You know, it's kind of
funny. But you know what, we'll get intopice because I want to talk
about it because I think that's been some people's like anyone that's a detractor,
they push against. This movie has been like the ending is maybe some of
the abruptness, but I know we'll get there. So yeah, let's say
first at break and then we'll talk spots. If you're not seen Dune,
tune out, come Back. It's on HBO, Max is in Theater's got
lots of options, go see it. So we can get a part two
and we'll be right back and are back. S Bubbs loves his numbers and
letters. Done two is you? I don't know if that works. I
don't know if that that works as it looks like a typo yeah, even
though you and two are nowhere near each other. Well, and that's what
I was going to say two, because obviously that was not spoiled. But
if you're in the chat, or if you're after the fact, listen to
this on Twitter Facebook. I don't want to spoils from the books. I
don't care. I people got all they've been out for a while. I'm
not looking into him, so I don't want to know anything about the book.
So before the chat gets hasty, don't drop anything of oh this and
that. You know, I don't want that. Yeah, it got dangerous
a few minutes into the wiki page. I I definitely got have I maybe
didn't want, but you know, I knew what I was doing. It's
a slippery slope. Yeah, so yeah, how do you guys feel about
Like it's a weird place to stuff? I want? Because like Taylor was
Part one, Dale and Kirkland all you guys, tal was talking about,
yeah, the part one thing, because you got that, and like I
said, like they hadn't said that technically before and at first, because I
had worried when it showed for credits. Some people said, like it just
feels too much like one of the ending where it's like it's not complete.
I don't like and my hope like it would be if I'm in a world
where we don't get part two, there is a part maybe that would be
like okay, yeah, now watching this film, you always feel like you
want more, but it's it still ends like enough way that I am satisfied
in it. It's strange, like I definitely want more. Well, I
guess I'm satisfied. Like Dylan said, if it's Fellowship of the Ring that
I get more. You'd have to sit me down in a year when they
say, hey, we're not making doing two and ask me how I feel
and watch it again, because right now I'm watching it just hoping, Okay,
this is the end of part one. We'll get too. But if
they say yeah, we're not doing that, especially because Warner Brothers just got
bought out, we don't know what Discovery is gonna do, they could be
like, yeah, we love doing want to do more. They're like,
look at what this made, We're not making more this. So I think
there's a way I can twist it as far as like oh, like he
went off and you know, live with these people, he lived in the
desert, but at the same time, it's like there's all these loose ends
of the bad guys and like all it so it is a tough to swallow,
especially with like his visions or whatever. We'll talk about those later.
Yeah, you know, it kind of like alludes to maybe what will happen
potentially, But to me, it didn't feel like a cliffhanger, didn't feel
like we're right on the edge and we're just kind of all this ending was
taken away from us. It feels just like the peak of a hill,
the peak of a sand du and if you will like it, we just
hit this nice point. I feel like we kind of closed off one big
storyline or one big section of the story and now I'm ready to go back
down and then you know, start off the next out in the side of
the story. But to me, it worked for an ending at this point,
but like if we never get that next part, I personally feel like
it'll take away from just this movie. Honestly for me, at least,
I just canna say that right now. I know that's what I mean,
But it's tough, Like like what Travis said, like sit me down in
a year and if I know I'm getting a part two, Okay, then
I'm excited. But if i know I'm not getting a part two, then
I'll just I feel like I'll have a bitter taste in my mouth over this
one. Well might be harsh, but honestly that's the way I was feeling
at least leaving the theater. But it's almost the same way we did this,
Like with Force Awakens, I feel and we knew were going to seeget
but still like there's certain questions we had and it's like, well, it
all depends on the sequels and how this goes, and clearly those didn't go
the greatest. So now we look back and something go that this just makes
sense. So I don't have that with this MOVI where things will make sense.
But Kirkling, if you want a way to Headcanton for yourself, you
can just say, you know, Paul had that vision him getting stabbed and
that was his end, Like he already knows his end, so that we
don't get that sequel he knowing he was gonna die. He just want have
a good life in the desert for a little bit and he gets stabbed,
you know, and me being selfish would be like, no, that's not
good enough because I want to see Dave Batista fuck some more people up and
actually interact with like our main characters. Like just the fact that I didn't
get to see like the big bad versus like our good characters. I don't
know, I feel like if I never get to see that, I just
got teased a little bit, and it's like it's not bad if I get
more parts, because it's just perfect of like showing where they are in this
movie. We'll just call it like basically the Fellowship of the Dune series right
now they split up at the end. Yeah, yeah, So I don't
know, I don't know. That's just the way I feel. Because also
I feel like this has the potential to be one of those great like trilogy
type movie experiences of like this era. Like I'm thinking Pirates of the Caribbean
something like that. Even Lord of the Rings to Pirates. He's putting Pirates
in the Lord of the Rings the first three Pirates come on. Those are
those are phenomenal, and like especially the way that at World's End, dead
Man's Chest ends with like Jack going up to the Kraken spoiler alert, but
like the way that that ends when when the end of this movie happened.
I know it's not quite as intense. I was still like, oh my
god, I feel like I just need to get this another movie. And
fortunately for the Pirates movies, I knew that it was coming out like a
year or so right that. No, that's just I'm with you. That's
both because many people are like, oh two and three, they step off.
I'm like, no, man, those those movies, those I'll defend
those with you. Because I don't have my notes, I'll definitely I'll say
that right now before I forget. Yeah, batistais sopefully when they sent them
up, Like, man, I can't wait to see him. I thought
for sure, and I've never read the book, so it probably doesn't happen.
I guess I'm not going to until this after. But I'm like,
man, we're gonna get Adjason, Momoa Bautista fight scene. It's gonna be
fucking badass. And it's so cool too, because like Momoo is the first
person that auditioned for Drags and turn it down, so like, man,
this is really cool, and no, like Batista just filmed him stuff on
the lot like one separate day away from the other cast, like that's a
It definitely felt like Dave Batista was too busy to do too much for this
movie. But they're like, let's set you up for more down the line,
and that that was disappointing because we actually for me, other than that
one scene when I'm chopping people down, I never got a huge, big,
badass scene. If I have like minor critiques, that's one from him.
I know we'll talk about them, but like I just want to say
it for a get forget, But Tiffield, what do you feel about the
uh the ending there? Like we've said, it's kind of the Fellowship of
the Rings sort of, they're off to you know, literally they're walking.
It's just like Sam and Frodro they're walking somewhere. You know, where are
they gonna go? I don't know. Yeah. For me again, going
in with the with these actors, Dave Batista went right over my head like
like he's in this movie was like holy shit. And then as it was
piling up again again like character Acara character of thinking oh my god, like
this cast list is stacked. As far as that leading into part two,
I feel like I need to rewatch this just to kind of see like there
was so much that that happened, and I just need to catch up with,
like, Okay, where are these characters at right now in each of
their storylines? Because I didn't even in retrospect, but you guys talked about
David Tisa. I totally forgot about that actually unfolded with him, and I
was thinking, holy shit, we were right. We didn't actually get any
kind of resolution with him, not that we needed in this part one,
but we didn't get anything of him kind of going up and fighting and doing
anything kind of grand and that we started off with him near the beginning,
and that really got me excited for that. So that's my more or less
my example on that front. But I I'm definitely excited to see, like
I want that part too, And I feel like there's if you, okay,
the same question. You don't get a part two, they sit down
and say, sorry, today, we're not doing it. How do you
think this movie stands on it? So I kind of side with Kirkland where
I feel like, again, it's a great movie, but I feel like
it could definitely be hurt a little bit because sorry, keep going. I'll
go with me myself that it's pretty rude let's go about it. I just
feel like if you go in making a movie, uh, and you're setting
it up to have like second parts, like you could watch the first Harry
Potter. This is my example they could have. They made that literally like
its own steadone. You can watch it and you wouldn't need the other films.
It just holds its ground as its own film. That's great. Beats
Voldemort again, happy ending, exactly, happy ending. So I feel like,
you go, you go this route. They they've set it up,
and as we were getting to the end of this film, I'm thinking,
holy shit, like there's or two hours twenty minutes in, there's a lot
that I feel like we haven't covered and there's like an opening here are they
gonna set us up a sequel? I didn't know we're getting a sequel.
Well, it's it's a bullplay because, like when you use the example Harry
Potter, they did the first one, and also it was a big kid
and I think they had idea they're doing more. But it feels very similar
to Justice League, like the Snart cut Woe when Zack's like, I'm gonna
shoot like ten minutes a new footage in the any of the movie's just gonna
set up the next Justice League, and Warner Brothers like, yeah, we're
not doing that. We're not gonna do another Justice League with you, dude.
So it's like it it is a ballsy choice due because I will agree
with you there is like I can headcanon enough that just like like I said,
he's one with the Desert now and that's his life and everything like that,
but I will agree that, yeah, there's some mispotential there. S
Pub said that Hobby Barden was his surprise actor. They forgot. I forgot
that Stelling Scarscard who played the Baron. I forgot he was in here,
and I know he's caked in makeup, and I was like, oh,
right, this dude's in it. Emily forgot Momo was in it because she's
like, who the fuck else is in this thing? I was like,
yeah, I know, it just keeps coming and whatnot. So I knew
Timothy, Timothy challow May and Zendi were in it, and I was it,
and I was surprised how the little Zendi was actually like, oh,
she's in a lot, like in spirit, but like her actual screen time
that's like five minutes, like five minutes clean or something like that. You
know, just getting back to what Taylor was saying, I thought that I
had was when when it started said Dune part one, I uh like that
coming on me, like Dune Part one. I was kind of like Dylan
where I was kind of waiting for that part two to happen, like during
the movie and in the beginning, I forget the whole world of uh Palas,
Yeah that one, thank you, So like when they're going over something,
I'm the lower guy on this episode, I thought, you currect,
I'm gonna be going off of you quite a bit here, But like I
felt like a lot of that was rushed for I don't know, just just
like certain details of the uh like their people and the significance of it,
and I just felt like we went to like the Dune world like like pretty
quick. So then during those moments, I'm like, Oh, Okay,
it's because we're gonna wrap up this entire story on movie. We're gonna get
part two maybe around like the forty five minute mark or something like that.
But then once that didn't happen, and then it was starting to get later
in the movie and I'm like, oh, I'm getting part two like maybe
if I get another movie, and then I was kind of just like,
oh, I felt like we glossed over a lot of certain details that we
probably didn't have to if we're trying to make an entire movie series out of
this. Now, I guess you could push back and say, well,
Deny doesn't know if he's getting another movie, so he's trying to cover quite
a bit in this one. And maybe that's where you're leaning into like the
like the memory, whether it's like in the future or in the past,
just those like glimpses that he's getting, because then it's kind of showing you
a future events that could happen. So then if we never get a part
two or further movies down the line, it's like, well, I kind
of know what happens. But it's funny because like the last thing the movie
does is establish, oh, these visions might not be true, you know,
Like the whole movie is hitting you over the head with oh, his
visions, everything's happening, Duncan's dying, sins and all this stuff, But
then he has these visions of this dude that's gonna clearly help him out the
rest of his life, right, No, smash cut to him murdering him
in a desert being like sorry. Like so it's like like for me,
I love that vision thing because it's like like I did like the way they
played with it as far as like he envision Momoa being dead Duncan. Then
it's like, oh, when he saw him like twice in a row,
it's like, oh, he's not actually gonna die, like these might be
wrong, and then no, he like actually a third time because when they
sat him right through the gut, I'm like, oh, he's dead.
And then when he just gets up and he's like oh, I'm like,
oh no, he's still alive. And then he does die, like okay,
it's kind of that no matter what, Like you could delay the vision,
but it's gonna happen at some point. So then when this guy who
seemingly had a lot of info to tell Chalome just gets destroyed in a fight
that I loved, I loved like the first two minutes was like kind of
like even, and then Shalomy just like like fucked him up like so many
times, like I could kill you here, I could kill you here,
like and I love Holly. Ever when he's just like, oh what is
he like, like, is he taunting or what he's like? No,
he's never killed the man. I was like, oh, man, like
so well done. Because some people have said, oh, that was way
too long I saw on our chattisty point. I loved everything about that,
and I love that subvert the expectations of the vig. I loved the fight
scene because I was in my head I was like, I kind of hope
if he's like the one, he should just kind of mess this dude up,
and he did, you know. And I loved everything about the ending
of Yeah, okay's that's the first part too, But I mean just that
stuff that happens in the little kind of dug out there, man, really
good stuff there. Yeah. I totally thought Paul was gonna die in that
scene because the vision where you like get stabbed and then like that voice is
like, don't fear, this is just the beginning or something. I'm like,
Okay, he's gonna die get resurrected or some shit, and then no,
the visions were totally throwing me off. So then all those ones that
were foreshadowing future events, I don't trust none of that shit. No,
who got less screen time honed the armists. No ton of diers in day
and day athletes in day. Yeah, definitely, I thought I did think
about the other day and I say out, no ton of dime, Like,
man, I'm glad I Dan hasn't seen this yet, because yeah,
she's in it for like a like a ten minute shot and whatnot. But
she's great. But that's good to know beforehand. Yeah, yeah, you'll
watch the YouTube clip in a little bit. But I like about his visions
because to me, it shows like kind of two paths, like, oh,
look, there's this one pathwards in day I like betrays you, kill
you, and then it seems like there's this other path where you guys could
end up happy and like together, like a ruler of this world. And
that's why I like where the whole movie is now. I think for a
sequel too, it would put him in a very interesting spot of he can't
even trust decisions before. I think now, before he's like, oh,
yeah, this is what's gonna happen, but now it's like, well,
anything can change, because before he met that guy, he was just having
visions of him being trained, but then he had the vision of him dying
all this so it's like they're just like I think he'll learn that they can't
dictate his life, you know. M h, Yeah, I got a
fucking sequel. Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong, Like I
definitely want a sequel more than anything because I love this movie so much.
But yeah, I think I think for me, it's like there's so there's
so much going on here, Like there's the Game of Thrones thing that Taylor's
talking about with like, Okay, here's your different you know, your different
like home bases, a different worlds of power, different like you got the
Emperor's, you got the Giddy Prime and all this. And then for me,
I like the story if you really break down like plot point for plot
point, like what the main story is, it's really not that much going
on here, but just just spend so much time developing Aracus as this place
and explaining like so much about the world and its people and the way it
functions and the reason why it's become this really important place, to these to
the Empire, to Guide Prime, all these different things, and I don't
know, to me, that's like more interesting than any story they could have
told in this amount of time. And I think that's why I'm so into
it, and I think that's for me why I feel like I'll be able
to come back to this movie. If there's never a sequel and this is
all we get, I'd be bummed. But I think there's still so much
here to dive into and so much intrigue that I still think I'll come back
and love this movie for years, even if it's the only one that happens.
And I mean, I'm curious what this series is because the way you're
talking about, Travis makes it sound like it's happening or like it's it's signed
off on like that Dy announced it a while back ago. Yeah, it
was like I think kind of of course, so they always to be like
kind of like a pre coel origin of like the what is the Nafiti,
right, that's what they're called from, right, the Fremen Noracus about the
witches, talking about like the aren't they like they got like the drapes across
their face? Either way, Jessica's like Benny the Ben jest it is what
they're called. Yeah, the Ben, the Benny, I'll call them Benny.
Uh. Yeah, they're the ones getting the series, not the Vermin.
I think I'll look into it, but it's but it's tied to this
cinematic universe, so like it's tied to this movie. Yes, so there
you go. You're you are getting more. I mean, maybe it doesn't
answer Paul's story, but at least there's there's more coming in the world for
me. That's I mean. I found the benedgesterate like for what we got
in this movie. I'm like, damn, I want to know so much
more about them. Yeah, it's really interesting. They were awesome, Like
I loved I loved all the sci fi stuff, but then it was like,
oh, we're mixing kind of medieval witchcraft like magic, like fantasy.
I was like, damn, this is awesome, Like this is really cool.
I loved everything about them, their vibe. I loved like the torture,
whatever scene room. I loved all like everything her and Jessica were talking
about. I just want to know everything, Like when they're like, you
were supposed to have a female, but you just thought you were Like so
it sounds like in a way that she almost like could choose to have a
male, like the way they phrase it is, yeah, just to like
like produce the chosen one. Because she had all the signs and stuff.
I love at the point when she saw going a Paul when she's like,
oh, we've been mixing bloodlines for years, and it's like, so did
when this started did she actually love Oscar Isaac or was it just like a
mission to go getting pregnant by him? Then she felt like there's so much
stuff like man that just in a few sentences the world they create with the
Benny's, I absolutely love it, and I like that it's like a fun
like like I said, I like the Witchcraft thing. If people think it's
too Star Wars E. Star Wars took from this if you read in the
history and everything like that, and it it all worked for me. And
I loved their look everything about them, just the the or the vibe.
Yeah, give me if that's a seriously. Yeah, this article was in
twenty twenty one July. This past summer. They just got a showrunner,
so yeah, they ordered it straight to series in Asia Max and it's told
through the Yay. I won't read the whole thing, but yeah, that's
the series about I. Yeah, because I really really like them. They
just seemed very like Sith Lord or something like that, like dark Secret Society
of these like just ladies that are so powerful, but like also just kind
of in the shadows, like they're not like the front run like like I
don't know if if you think of the Empire, I feel like, yeah,
yeah, exactly. So I really love that and it is exciting to
get that news. But I think what this movie did so well was just
like for like a general audience member like myself, just like break down so
many of these different like just variables in this world and so many things that
just showed it to me, and then it just left with Okay, I
see you next time. And I think part of part of the reason why
I just I feel robbed was because I'm like, oh, I just need
to know more. And again maybe that's just me having to dive into the
book to get all that information, but I think the way that it was
delivered from like Denny Villanu and like the the phenomenal casting, like all the
actors that just like did such a good job in their roles. I want
more of these same people that I've seen on there. So if I never
get that, I think I will be prett disappointed. But I got to
stop being so pessimistic because I don't even know if I'm not gonna get that
right now, so I should just be talking about this movie, and I
still enjoy what you got here. I'm the same thing as Dylan, Like,
yeah, I would always be like, man, I wish we got
more, But unfortunately I do have already a lot of those movies where it's
like, oh, I wish I got more, but I still love this
one, you know, And yeah, if the series does happen, that's
great. But like I think that's a good thing with this film. It's
such a it even though at the ending go back and forth on the rest
of it's just such a nice sandwich you just want to eat over and over
again. You know. There's so many nice toppings and stuff in the middle
of it, you know. So no, it was phenomenal. What do
you think about the Bennet jestirt that's that, right thought, Right, That's
what I'm just going with, Benny. I don't eve want I think it's
a Benny jesttery. I thought something like that's that was tea in there could
be silent like like you, like you said, like I I didn't know
that Star Wars actually got their vibes from this, but were you gonna come
in here and be like this is just fucking Star Wars Wars, fuck George
h But no, I just going in, like you said, Kirklam,
like Empire vibes, Sith vibes, like not necessarily, I should say like
Sith vibes, because I didn't get the gist that they were necessarily like super
Bad, but they had their own agenda, like when they were talking about
like, yeah, let's we were supposed to have like the bloodlines kind of
all like organized and plant out me and try was talking about the geek worst
blood lines the corn Maze other night. But no, it just it just
felt super hilarious conversation. Then just a little drop after nine. I just
I love the whole setup of him going to their room, and I mean
I thought, Okay, they're not gonna kill him off, like obviously they
need him. Were only like twenty minutes into the movie. But I just
I love the intensity and I loved how it was it was him just to
control the voice. And I wanted to know more about that because I didn't
know anything going into this. And you have this organize, this organization,
this cult or group the witches that have I think a cult is a good
description. The called the cults had this power of the voice, and I
was just blown away by what this was and I wanted to learn more about
it because again, that's another thing I didn't expect in this movie. So
when you have him walking in like you damn make my mother leave or whatever
he said, and then she like commands him to like appear in front of
her, I was like, holy shit, this woman is the top tier
Bee's knees. You don't fuck around with her. So it was just super
cool to see that element again, like I will kill you if you remove
your hand from the box, and I didn't know what he was going to
do. Again, this movie just had so many different surprises, and the
Witches being this u faction that even the what was save Fatista's clan name again?
What was their house Parkanon? Yeah, it was for them. They
beat around the bush with it, but they didn't necessarily want to betray or
get on the Witch's bad side. The Witches are kind of like this faction
that is, uh, you don't mess around with them. Yeah, but
Baron still fucked her over when he's like, oh, well, we need
to take out the boy and the mother and he's like, well, there's
more things than just us. I can take it out like that, see
if they divide or survived the desert and everything like that. So that was
great because it was just because I was like, Okay, you can see
this character the baron, like he does have a point where he does have
to agree, like there's somebody that still puts them in check. But the
second she leaves, he's like, now we're doing that. We're taking out
this whole bloodline, Like I just want them all gone. Everything like that.
And that's where it's great because they are so powerful. So it's like
this thing in the second one or in the future, it's like if they
were to find out, what are the ramifications of that, because clearly if
Paul and Jess where to get back to them or get send some sort of
message like hey, we're alive and these are the people that tried to take
us out, I feel like there that's a situation you don't want to get
yourself into. But also knowing the Bear and I feel like they try to
hit them really hard, really fast. It's like that's a team, like
like the Benny's you gotta take out right away, like I feel like that's
a night over operation. Everyone's sleeping ky. We got twenty four hours and
everyone we can. We're gonna lose thousands of us, but we got to
take them out, so I get. I don't know. Again, I've
know nothing of the books, but I wonder if that could be a thing
of him being like, yeah, we gotta kind of extinct them, the
same way they did Paul's bloodline, because house you beat them, you know,
like this. I guess if they got some tow headphones work. I
don't know, because if headphone work, they're kind of fucked. You know.
Yeah, that guy who couldn't hear them, he was good to go.
I think it also that just creepy cult organization. The backstory we did
get just adds so much to Rebecca Ferguson's character as Jessica, because and I
was thinking, like the first scene in the movie where she's like having breakfast
with Paul and kind of talking to him, did just from that scene,
I was like, Okay, I feel like this character is probably not gonna
be in the movie very much, you know, maybe have like ten minutes
of screen time or something. I was just getting that vibe there's gonna be
this mother character that doesn't really have a big, like a big impact on
the plot, just kind of there for a little bit or there in the
background. But she, yeah, like you guys said, she is possibly
like the most interesting character of the bunch here and these yeah, like these
kind of back alley conversations. She's having that scene when she's outside the door
during the torture scene, and she's just like trying to control herself, but
she's also just so overflowing with emotion. There's even like this little hint when
when the what is it the Duke of what is it? It was called
like the Something of Change, you know, when they came and they come
down to like sign the paperwork to sign over the planet rackets I can't remember.
And there's like the point where they like they mentioned the benajesret and that
lady is standing there and then it cuts to her face and like it's just
you know, half a second or a second of of Jessica just looking at
her, and like her reaction just says so much how she's like terrified of
this organization, but also she's part of it too. It's super interesting and
it's cool that we're gonna get more of that on screen, not necessarily that
we're gonna get Jessica or this other character that's in this movie, just the
organization as a whole. But yeah, I think it adds so much to
her backstory and makes her kind of a terrifying character. And even in some
of the visions that Paul has, like the one where she's kind of has
like all the words on all the words like on her face and she's doing
some sort of weird chant with the Chris knife in front of her, it's
like, man, this character is terrifying. Yet this is like the motherly
figure that's kind of keeping Paul safe and helping them all home, and she
has the new baby too, so it's like what's going on here, you
know, and stuff like that. And No, it's great because when you
mentioned that she's scared because I legitally feel when she puts Paul in that room,
she feels there's a chance he's gonna die like right here, like like
how to explain that? Yeah, yes, one hundred percent. And that's
the best thing because at first, like, okay, she's a part of
this, why she's so scared of them? And then later on they set
up like yeah, you sounds like she's defied them a few times, and
it's this thing of like, Okay, if she ends up being right,
if Paul is the one, then oh great, but you got to prove
that and you gotta get to that point right, and it's just so good
of Like I love when Paul is talking about uh uh so something about bloodlines
and stuff like that, like, oh, I'm just so important because my
father and he's like you're you're like your namesake belongs to other like packs or
something like just saying like yeah, sure you might be like cool, you're
his son, but it's more important that you're one of ours, you know,
like it doesn't really matter. And it is kind of this like again
classic Chosen One thing where it's like, okay, well he has the power
and the legacy of his father, but then he has like the supernatural like
power needs his back, so he has like all the tools to unite the
people in a sense, which I imagine probably what happens most of these Chosen
One stories. But yeah, everything even that. I love that scene of
what is else Schrysig's character name his father. I know he's just the duke,
but what is he dukelido, mister trades, Yeah, a trades.
I'll just go I'm just gonna call him. I'm just gonna call him Oscar
eyes, like when he when they had that scene kind of like five or
ten minutes before the whole breakdown happens, when he says like, can I
trust you with Paul's life? And she's like of course. He's like no,
I'm not asking you as the mom. I'm asking you like a part
of this cult. Like if I go down, we all go to like
is Paul like safe with you guys or should because it's this great like fork
in the road where I feel like Oscar Isaac in that moment, if he
didn't believe her, he may have to part ways or like go against her,
because he's almost doing like, hey, if I'm dead and you can't
protect Paul, like I'm gonna have duncan fucking tick you out right now?
And then they agree and they talk and there he's saying he should have married
her, But I think it's not because he would have hated her. I
think he just felt so desperate of I, Like he said, we're running
out of time, and if he feels the next week he might be dead
if he can't trust his wife or you know, the Bennys take care of
him, he's gonna have to do something, and obviously to get that route.
But I love just all the increasesies of like that's where it reminds me
of Game of Thrones, of everybody having like ten different motivations of like trying
to figure it out. And Oscar Isaac just always phenomenal, such good looking
guy, and he's he portrays it so well. And I don't know what
it was about this movie, but it was the whole Like, man,
I really hope that Metal Gear Sol movie does happen with him, because he
just at times looked like snake and when he was talking like like authoritative and
stuff, it was like, I want to see him with a gun,
with an army. But yeah, so good. Yeah, I'm sure I'm
were you gonna say seven not at all? You go man? No,
okay, okay, okay, I was just gonna say I found it very
intriguing how he was totally oblivious to his son being in this death room with
this witch lady, because I feel probably, yeah, it was like no
one woke him up. His son's like seconds from death, she will.
It seemed like she she woke Paul up early when everyone was asleep, and
then she and also he does insinuate when she's like, you gotta get some
sleep, and he says no, not like that. I think there's a
good opportunity she could have drugged him for that morning, because he does turn
away these other like sleeping drugs. So I think if Jessica wants to stay
asleep an extra hour pass you're supposed to. It all takes his a little
chanting in your ear and it might be done. You know. Like I
said, they established they have like these sleeping peals that I think knock you
out pretty well. Because he didn't want them. He's like, no,
not tonight. So do you want to continue on that topic? We wanna
go say yeah, I just wanted to talk more about the Oscar Isaac character,
the dukeleto I just because I had only seen that first teaser trailer,
I had no idea like what his role was really gonna be. I was
very like pleasantly surprised though, for the character that he ended up being.
Like he is this very authoritative like person. He's basically the head of their
house, their bloodline, but also he's just such like a like a great
father to Paul. And that scene that we had on I think it was
at like the graveyard on their home planet, and I can't remember if he
dropped the line here or if it was somewhere else, but he's basically saying
like like you're gonna be like asked to like be a leader or something like
that. And again I'm parafraerying this, paraphrasing' this so im apologize, but
like you're gonna be called to answer to that and if you can't, like
then you'll already be like basically what I wanted from you. And that's just
my son. And it was like a really touching moment, and it was
something I was really not expecting going into this movie because from the teaser trailers
he just looked like such like a like an imperial officer where it's just like
war and ultimate like you know, domination, And yeah, I'm so glad
that characters. Yeah, yeah, I could have just been like Paul,
you're gonna do this because you're exact son, and we're gonna take over Racus,
We're gonna murder those freemen. But there's so many more layers to the
character, and he he checked that box of being an authoritative figure, you
know, like it seemed like as people really respected him and he like demanded
uh just like praise, but like it was it was one like force but
also just like love for him. And then the relationship between him and Jessica,
the relationship between him and Paul. Like I just really really really liked
the character and it made it really heartbreaking like his fate in this because also
I'm just a huge fan of ousch Isaac, so I want him to be
a character that I can root for. And I was, I truly was.
He was so great. Yeah, I feel like characters in that kind
of role are often just very one dimensional and very just the badass in charge,
doesn't show any motion. And I agree with what you said. I
think what I add is that I like the way Josh Brolin's character plays off
of him, because Josh Brolen's characters doesn't trust anyone at all. He's very
and he's very he very much is that like cliche military badass guy, and
so it works well that you have Oscarisi as this kind of charismatic figure who
is like trusting of these people. That Gurney is Josh Boln's character's name.
Gurney is like you step back. He puts a knife to anyone's throat instantly
for anything. But Oscar's looks like, no, it's okay, it's okay,
and he kind of puts his guard down. And I really like that
layer to him. So yeah, I think he's a He was a great
character. I want to Oh, I was just gonna say, a lot
of your spits is like a sign of respect in the whole room, just
like jumps at him part of his culture. I liked. I liked that
scene. I wanted to quickly shout it just because we were kind of on
this topic. But uh, in the in the the Dragonfly Ship when Jessica
is using the voice powers to take everyone out, that like, that is
just such a badass scene. I love the way that shot. I love
how scary she is in that moment, so it shows to her as well.
But any other thoughts on the Duke from maybe Taylor perhaps uh, he
blew my mind. Like Kurvin, I'm with you, I had no idea
what his position was in this. I actually thought, Okay, he's probably
gonna be a villain or something. Yeah, but he just he looks one
hundred percent like a I won't say a carbon copy, but just one hundred
percent like one of the Star Wars, the Old Republic, like cinematic,
like Jedi like people, like just his arbor. He's just he looks like
that, and it's just so cool to see him representing this on this in
this light. I just feel like him being the Duke and is controlling like
this planet, being a very kind, down to earth person who cares about
his son and his people and everything, and how he's not going to what's
Bractice, He's Barracus Bractus, He's not He's not one there too. Aracus.
Hey, Aracus, he's not going to oracuslate the people. What do
you cheat cards for this one? Yeah? What is it? But he's
going there because, like he told Timothy, is like, yeah, we
should befriend them. You know, we on our planet we have seat power
and we have air wind power. I want desert power. I don't know
why I love that. I just love that term. I want that desert
power. But you stole it, so desert power you can have it.
It's all good. He's the last line in the movie, Sean make says
desert powers, and day it just smiles like, yeah, I wasn't expecting
that, seeing like the big change that that suck. The fact that she's
MJ two brings it all around, you know. Yeah, well that's what
they're gonna call Dune too, Dune desert power, you know, or big
change had due a big change. But I want to mention to you because
dn't show that sceno about Jessica and the flight, because I thought it was
great that they go back and forth with showing how motherly she is. But
in that scene, she's just cut throat and like you said, she's scary.
So it was like, oh, man, like twenty years ago,
you wouldn't want to mess with her because she would have just messed you right
up. And I love that even in that moment, it's like a teaching
moment for Paul, like find the right I love the sigh language is a
way to communicate everything that like find the right tone everything. And then whether
he's definitely not really that guy that played like the deaf one, Oh what
a like disgusting little bugger when he just he just like laughs at Paul and
he's like, oh, I'll show along, goodbye, stop talking, and
he's just like he just realized if someone you would have met in like Diagonelly,
you know, like that, he just came off really like whatever.
But no, Oscar is great. I love the well you point out Taylor
where like he's not there just to destroy, Like even he says to Hobber
like, hey, your people are never gonna be hunted by me, and
he's just there to try and get things going. Obviously he starts to quickly
realize that maybe this was like a death sentence, and it was, like
Dylan says, like the plot of the movie is a colony works with another
colony, they turn their back and try to kill them. All that's literally
like the actual story of it. And then it's all the character and world
stuff that's like the complicated stuff or like the interesting things. But the actual
story is just like like a backstabbing tale. You know, it's just it's
a big Shakespearean thing. So uh no, he was great. I like
to send off. That was a really good scene. I love that,
you know he's whispering, he gets the baron and everything like that breaks the
tooth and sucks. Sucks as kill a shot didn't work, you know,
but it was. It was a good scene in Oscar is just laying there
and all his glory you know too. That was in Radar and I saw
some real Podamner. But again, I'm just very happy that this man is
my moonnight watching this, like fuck, man, he's gonna kill it and
I can't what do you sorry, what do you mean some real Oscar Isaac,
like real podamn Or and like what do you mean by that though,
like just more exposed, like we could see his ex fighter you know,
stuff like that. Which it was funny when he was at clus Taylor.
Yeah, when he was talking at the grave, Well, Taylor doesn't know
what dick helicopter is, all right, so let's let's calm down. No
doc helicopter's dock, all right? Yeah whatever. Sure, when it was
that Lion kirkle on at the graveyard when he said like you'll be my son
the other day, that I laughed is he was talking about the Emperor and
then also in that same thing is talking about how he wanted to be a
pilot. I was like, was this the wrong actor to cast in this
role because he's shown all these Star Wars thing but then luckily he's like a
completely different character. But yeah, I just like this look that like the
full Beardy, like the mix of the gray fox going on. And yeah
he's he's not one that much. He has like the bor mere ned Stark
role where you fall in love with him but he's doomed but doomed d o
M you know. But yeah, great job. I want to one day
get to a level of my life where I can just have like my house
sigil on my ring and then when I like sign things, I just like
stamp it. Oh such a bad ass. Just get a planet. I
mean, you know you gotta you gotta have like steps in the ladder there,
Taylor. That's like the on a planet on my own little Terra,
that's the final wrung on the ladder, Taylor. Taylor has terror ready to
go. So we all got we'll work together when they went take over our
planet. So someone signs me off to take over some fucking barren desert and
I got fucked over. You would, yeah, you would be unser has
the most expensive resource of all time. It's a great desert. Like like
I so I can kind of associate this with like that what happened right there
and our ts video game. So when House House House podam I need those
cheek cards, don't? I got you? I put it in my notes.
I got them all here in front of me. When they go and
they take over the sand planet, uh, I feel and I feel it
is to me that it's like, okay, you're an arts game and you're
trying to set up your resources, get sit up real quick, and then
the enemy team just fucking rushes you with like Halo Wars moorhoug rushes you like
you just get hit so hard, like and you got to set up that
safe period of like okay, there's a ten minute safe period where you build
up your resources, no one attacks, and then right out of the get
go, when that ten minute time is done, you get fucking bombed and
they have their money who's been playing the game for years with them taking along
too, and you're like, fuck, I didn't know about this guy.
And it's like first Batista and his boys land, and then first people land
was like right when it's like oh, our good guys might have a shot
right behind them, they literally repelled down. It's like, fuck, Crystal
screwed. Whatever you're doing with your sword dance is it's not gonna work.
You're a gentleman, like you're just then they just they did they just calculating
go through this entire town, taking out every one of his bloodline, and
it's just it was great. But yeah, he just got his bloodline taking
out Oh he's back. The author completely sacked against them, So yeah,
it was it was not good. It's probably a good time to mention that
the Imperial planet which I wrote the name down because there's no head to remember
this, but Soleusa SECAs, but the sard car the people that live there,
that scene was so fucked up. First of all, the guy who's
doing like the throat singing and like doing the patty yeah, and then there's
just like yeah, people like upside down just being like let the blood and
then people are everyone gets a take or it's like the war paint, right.
Yeah, that scene was absolutely savage. Yeah, it really like makes
you scared of the Imperial army and uh oh absolutely the Emperor's back pocket.
He's just he's got the power ready to go. That's the one place when
you're almost at a gas like well let's not land here, like let's go
a little let's go a little further because to go there. Yeah, like
I I think just that that one scene before we even see them like kick
ass and like just slaughter people. Just like this is kind of where they
are to like like their barracks, you know, more or less like where
they gather their troops. It's them getting ready. Yeah, these guys are
fucked up and they're gonna be cold and hardcore burterers. And it was it
was just such a crazy intro to like a fighting force like that. I
thought they were so badass though, like just like their origin planet type thing
and then like just their white outfits with like the blood Oh, it was
just it's It's funny because when you look at these different houses again like Space
of Thrones, high relate it a trade us. I just feel like,
Okay, they're for me. They're the Starks and that's one hundred percent why
like I like them, those guys, and they're exactly they're always getting so
I'm worried, like I need them to come back. I'm hoping they come
back, like the bloodline's still there, but like we are they going to
recruit, They're gonna go to the military planet. I don't think so.
So you're telling me there's gonna be a scene where Paul has like the chance
to like take over Racus and then he's the Queen God. I hope on
oh. I think Paul clearly is gonna use He's he dropped the like you
know who I might be? You don't even know who I am? You
know who I might be, And Jessica's I was like, don't don't over
promise, because I still wonder, like he's having these visions, but like,
is there gonna be a chance like his brother or whose sister of that
baby is? Like, is that gona end up being the one? You
know? Like it could be a bait and switch. I think it is,
just because like it's timdy, shallowman. It feels like that's the way
the story is gonna go. But he's already he's doing the Harry Potter of
like I am the chosen One, like right away it's just like, well
I could talk to the Emperor. He doesn't have sons, and she's just
like that ship I couldn't. Like, Luckily, I'll never be in a
place in my life where someone retires my murders, my entire family and my
last place, you know what. I want to marry his daughters and be
like, yeah, this is gonna work out for it like it was.
It was bold, but I did love all clients. I think that was
her name. Just was like, you want to get play for the throne,
Like that's what you want to do right now? Okay? Clearly,
Uh that's the Rob Stark scenario, you know, marry the the guy with
the bridge's daughter and then you get your whole family killed off. That was
different. They made a deal and then it went sart then he killed him.
This is I killed your whole family, marry my daughter. A little
preemptive. And I'm very excited to see this Emperor character because I don't know,
like he's not been gassed. I thought we might see him this movie,
but I can't wait if we do get a part two. Like good
thing is we haven't heard too much about him, just as like classic emperor
character. You don't want to mess with him, right but uh him,
said Ian McDermott. No, we don't know. No, Yeah, there's
a chance. I'm curious to see you more about that character if we do
get more of this, Like I'm I just want to see more about like
the reason why decided to turn on the trade, the people the trade,
these people, I mean, I guess it was kind of said that they
you just felt like they were getting too much power, they were gaining too
much favor with the other houses. It was kind of the vibe I got.
Did you guys take that a different way? They were like rivaling up
to meet them per strength is how I took it. And the other houses
thing is definitely that's a good point to mention. I hope we get to
see more of that and how they come into play. But yeah, they
they just got powerful. Yeah, that's how I took it. I took
it as they're building up. The emperor wants to come up from the knees,
and I took it. Also the bear what are they? The hearkens
that we said, what was their name? Parkins? They made like the
way the baron talked because he said like, oh, this is finally over,
We've come to conclusion. Made it sound like for they've been feuding for
generations, like these two houses and stuff like that. So like the emperors
like these people a getting too powerful. Oh and these people really hate them
perfect like one two punch We can take them out, and that's exactly what
they did, and so let's start making some more I guess. But don't
you feel like that's just kind of again. I know, it's when you're
at bad leader, you're gonna think that, okay, someone is going to
rise up and dethrone you. But I just feel like at the end of
the day, like he has house to tradees that has literally sworn to him,
and we see at the beginning of the movie like Oscar Isaacs is like
again pledging whatever the Emperor commenced, he'll follow. I just feel like it's
kind of right now. Yeah, But even then, like we obviously got
to see Oscar Isaac's character and we see how loyal he is and how he
at least to me, I didn't get the sense you betray the emperor.
He's just doing what is right for his house, following orders and just trying
to do what's good. So I feel like the Emperor just to kind of
be a that afraid Like I feel like, again, I don't know the
Emperor on a personal note, like note, I don't know what he's like,
but he's obviously not a good guy. I feel like he could have
made some change in leadership calls, but like, I don't know why he
would have felt that intimidated because he owns him. But I'm the other way
around as far as like when they're like, oh, we're gonna have this
ceremony to see if we sign this agreement and Paul's like, why are we
doing this? It's already decide that we're going to sign it. It feels
like, yeah, it's a partnership, but more in a partnership of like,
you step out of line, I'm going to take you out. And
I think like, obviously he did step out line, but I think it's
that thing of like even if in the future, for a tradees, the
emperor might say you got to go do this thing that would really hurt you
or your family or people, and he would have no choice. I think
he wanted to get at that situation. I took the complete opposite that he
is, that they are almost against your will sort of situation and they got
to get power. So even then, if you don't have to turn against
the emperor, could be on a level playing field of like no, we're
not going to do this because we have the wrong way. Right now,
it feels like the Emperor is pretty much just telling you, hey, you
have to do this. It's like so loyalty by abuse. So as a
test in that sense, like do you feel the Emperor necessarily wouldn't be able
to take them on with all like the Hurricans and everything else and the military
people go at their home planet, do you feel like I feel like he
would have just wiped out as opposed to moving Well, No, I think
I think, Okay, they go to the trade's and they could win,
But I think it's a could where I think if they split them up and
they get them all separated and spread apart, it's an easy win as far
as especially putting this on this planet where they don't have much artillery. So
I think that like maybe the Emperor and the Horkins could have won like with
the home planet, but I still think that like that is the plan to
kind of ensure victory. If you're looking at a palpaty in sort of way,
it's like, well, divide and conquer and stead of like let's leave
that home where they have every device everything, like all their defenses, they
know the planet versus this. They even say like that's the Baron's plan,
right, Oh, I'm not gonna kill them. I'm just gonna let the
desert do it. So it's like it's putting them in a situation that if
they survive the battle, they won't survive living on the outskirts or anything like
that. So I think it's kind of like putting them in a rock and
a hard place. I'm very very interested Again, like if we're getting more
just to like see different types of houses and stuff like that, because of
how different a Treatees and Harkinen are, it'll be just it'll just be cool
to see different size of that. But also like their perspective on this whole
situation, Like, yeah, I'm assuming a Treade's had some good allies if
they're reaching a point that like they could have made a shot for the throne,
like they probably would have had a lot of backing support like that.
So like if they just hear that, like Harkenin's who I'm assuming are just
assholes to fucking everyone, So they probably have a lot of enemies because the
way they look, they're just mad at ugly we are. They see pretty
mean, pretty mean people, but so like just different people, like,
well, this is pretty fucked up here, but like, also, we
can't just run against the throne. Maybe there's some small rebellion that'll be going
with different types of houses and again this stuff that I'm assuming it's gonna happen.
I think that's how you say her name because she was sent there by
the Emperor. But she said she was gonna go report this to somebody before
she ran those dudes in the desert, So like she to me, was
gonna get that message out of like, hey, like a trade didn't do
anything wrong. This was a complete mutiny and they tried to sinct them like
that would I think even other people that maybe aren't with the trades go,
hey, they did that to them. We can't do that where they control
the narrative, right, they go there and they say, oh, trades
try to take it over. They tried to overthrow, they try to do
th stuff. We had to take him out where this is the Oh no.
If we spread the word, everyone could kind of get together and rebel
against them. And I think that's what you would see in other movies or
fall ups or whatnot. I would imagine hopefully anything else on the emperor dynamics
or stuff, I'll see not much of the Emperor, but I actually want
to talk about the Bear and the Batista. Like I said, I liked
him. I love that scene when all those guys are just on their knees
and the he just hacks them down. That's great. Shows the brutality.
Again. I wish we got more. I think kirklands right like just eting
something with the main characters. Maybe that happens down the road, but it's
like, well, we lost Oscar Isaac, we lost Jason Momoa. I
don't think Josh Brolin is dead because I'm going with the horror route off if
you don't see them die on screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
feel like Ernie will be like somewhere else you'll find him, or like the
Emperor could like be holding him hosted. So like if Paul does ever come,
it's like hey, look, I feel like again he's not dead.
But I liked him. I love the Baron. I loved everything about him.
And that's where it reminds me of Mad Max, like the aesthetic,
the healing bass of like when he rises up, he like has this like
white yellowish oil that's coming up, like it just the way he moves.
Again, I know nothing about Dune, so what the hell's going on with
his spine and that he can float, Like everything about the Baron hearkens everything
that but the Baron specifically was like, man, did hy Deo Kajima write
this in the sixties, Like that's what it feels like, a deaf stranding
sort of like vibe or villain. And just like the oil, I loved
everything about them, and they just screamed bad and gross and just the attention
to detail. So I love the cloaking shield for the people talking. I
love the he was always baffing himself and really well done. Liked all that
stuff. Yeah, I he just has the he has the fear factor just
from the visuals alone. Yeah, like when you when he like just climbs
up on the table over to austr Isaac or when you just see him like
rise up in his throne room. Yeah, he's just such a fucking scary
guy. And the fact that he like survived whatever that that tooth poison attack
was. It's funny. He looked like a crying little baby or something,
just like huddle like beetle position in the corner, just like trying to keep
it out. But yeah, I think they did like such a good job
with just like what is kind of your holy evil character, but he has
like just so much intrigue to him. And then yeah, the way Batista's
character who Robin is his name is or Rabin, I guess Rabin and how
he pronounced that. But I like that he's kind of just this seems like
a very like not underdeveloped characterized, but underdeveloped in that he's just like whining
and crying about everything and he just like it is always on his way no
matter what. And I'm guessing that's just a hearkening thing in general, considering
they have like more money than any one else ever pretty much, and this
whole I don't know all these factions, it seems like they have just the
most money after being on a racus for that long. So I thought he
was I thought he was interesting just because he was I kind of this character
that and keep it together, whereas I don't know, the Baron just seemed
like kind of exhausted it like, but he still just had this friend.
And but yeah, I I loved all the all the scenes they have with
those characters, and even the other guy Peter I think is or Pitar or
whatever. I know, how he pronounced it once again, pronounce it.
I like that he's kind of the third chair in that room. Kind of
adds like a fun dynamic, and it made those scenes which could have felt
very generic, were instead like very intriguing, And I want to see more
of those characters and I'm curious about about their backstory and more of that stuff.
Taylor, did you know who the guy was who was like the hand
of the baron? Did you recognize him a pull it on man? Yes,
Stave do smash. Yeah, he's having a great fucking year, that
guy, Like for such a character, like little character act who had like
one scene in the dark Night to now like he's popping up in all these
places. It's awesome. And yeah, he he was a character that when
he died, I was like, oh, I felt the same way about
him that I felt about Ebony Man and in Finny War. When he died,
I was like, like, I could I could, like he could
be my wormal tongue for like the whole series and keep him around, find
a way. But now he was he was just had such a good presence
about him. I absolutely love that character. Yeah, he was a pretty
interesting one. I was talking to someone at work that had read the books
and he was telling me apparently they didn't really go over in the movie,
but apparently like computers are just like banned in the world or something like that,
Like they just like outlawed them. So those like that guy. There's
another one that leto a Trade's had. I forgot the character's name though,
but they're like they're basically just like people that have like these powers from the
spice that like make them just like calculators or like like almost like a like
a computer. And that's why like like when they go to think, like
their eyelids just like go out and they have like white eyes. Basically,
yeah, like basically calculating. Just such a like interesting thing, like because
it's I don't know at the time, I just didn't know what was going
on. It's like, hey, this guy has some sort of power or
something like just just makes them different. And his look was just like a
really creepy like most of the Harkeinins and I didn't touch upon Barren. I
thought he was just such an imposing force like I going through, especially like
Travis and I went through the James Bond Retros. There's some great villains in
there. But there's also some really flat villains that I just thought were so
lackluster and like so unintimidating, and when they're on screen, I just don't
feel like they're really like a villain. He is like the complete opposite.
He's just such like a like a miasma of despair and like just just dour
feelings. And I thought he was just so creepy anytime he was on screen.
Yeah, that float that he did, especially like with like the cloak
on him, it made him look like a fucking sand where and when he's
just like floating up in the air, just so creepy, and he just
like ugly to look at, Like just I don't know, I want to
know more about him and like what made him that way and like that little
like float thing on his spine like Travis was shouting out. I don't know.
There's just so much things that would just introduce that makes me want to
go, like dive more into the lore because it's just so fascinating. And
yeah, I thought all the harkenings was just such a creepy vibe, and
they looked real really cool. The Baron seems like he's just been through so
many battles or not even battles, but he just seems like he's been killed
like over and over again. But he says every time he gets rejuvenated by
those like those healing baths, and each time he comes out more fucked up
than the last time. And then eventually they gave him like those I don't
know that new spine, and I'm curious what's under that rope and how he's
if he is flying, if he does have some sort of tail thing.
I I Am really curious what's going on there. But yeah, I got
they nailed it. And then I liked the Yeah, the MCU vibes between
Batista and Piecer and then even you know, Josh Brolin of course as well.
I liked the h I was getting a lot of MCU vibes from those
three in this movie. Well, and don't forget the Baron's also from the
MC he's doctor Selich. I will forget that for sure. And then he
got Ascar, who's gonna be Moonnight so and he got Zendia, who's MJ
don't for the three main hearkens are all from Oh yeah, that's that's funny.
Yeah I didn't, Yeah, I didn't remember the uh the baron being
in the MS to you, Yeah, he gets all naked and lose and
whatnot, which I was ere mentioning. You wanted to see uh duncan Idaho
and God, I forget his name, but Davitisa's character just like dish it
out. I forgot that they actually are like countering each other in that Apple
Plus series. See they're like, uh yeah, in like season two,
I think Davitsa got introduced, so there you go. You can see that
fight there. But I was I was with you. Also wanted to see
them scrap it out maybe yeah, and Gurney, I mean Gurney, Yeah,
no, I hopefully that'll happen next one. I feel like that we
got a Batista versus her drags versus thanal situation everything. But that was I
was literally talking about my bad WiFi and then I just got dropped my wife.
I was just kicking my ass tonight. But uh yeah, I liked
they're a good setup. I like, like I said, surprise bud Zindia
obviously seems like she'll be a lot in the next one if we get that.
But I liked what we heard about them. I really like the way
Paul learned about everything, and he had like that little video log or whatnot
and like like showing it on the wall and stuff. It felt very very
video gaming. It was like almost a fun for me. It was a
fun way of exposition. He learns about how to like walk in the sand.
So I liked all that. I like the setup. I love that
their little rules as far as like hey, in a duel, you can't
yield, like someone has to die, all about their culture, like we
we only learned a little bit, but I'm excited to learn more hopefully in
the future. And if I don't, then maybe I would do an audiobook
or something. But I liked, I liked everything about them in Javier just
always so good. So yeah, that was that was my surprise cast he
went. When I saw him, I'm like, is that heavier? No,
No, there's no way, And then like the whole movie, I
would just be going back and forth on that. I don't know. He
just he just looked very different from what I've seen him in last But I
thought he was great. He was like a great main guy for the Fremen
or like just like of the Klan for like uh to be interacting with our
tradious characters and just the Fremen in general. I thought they're just such a
cool like people. I loved all the explanation, like Travis Minchin with like
their special walks that they do to like get across the sand so that the
sandworms don't come for them. I love their instruments, whether it was like
like the thumper to attract the sandworm. And their suits. Their suits were
just such a cool design, and I love like the practicality of it,
how like it would it would keep you cool, but also gather like your
excess liquids and then make it like recyclable so you can drink it. Like
they just seem so attuned to their environment, and I thought they were just
such an interesting race that was introduced, and I just want to know so
much more about them, and they did. They did explain a lot about
them in this one, and I think, like just give credit to like
the movie for just like, yeah, just making it easily to understand for
like a lot of these people like myself that just have no idea about Dune
going into this one. I thought it was really really cool and I love
their blue eyes and like the reason for that because it's just like exposure to
the spice. Just everything with the Fremen was just so well done, and
I just I want to know even more, even though it was it was
touched upon really well. Yeah, I totally agree to me. That was
like, Yeah, that was the main draw of all of this. It
was Aracus as a planet and the freemen and how they decide to or not
how they decide, but how they learn to adapt being in this environment for
I guess their entirety as a race. It sounds like they've always been here,
of than having come here from a separate planet like space travel wise,
but maybe that is in the backstory. Maybe they just came here thousands of
years ago or something like that. I'm not sure, but yeah, I
think there's a lot of room here to see more in the future too,
because they talk about how they're all there's kind of like these different speeches,
which are like I guess, kind of like tribes. There's different tribes of
the women who will probably have their kind of political differences, and I know
their different stances on things, So I'm curious to see how different speeches would
interact with each other and if they're pretty unified as like a people considering that
they've been kind of oppressed by the hearken in for so long, and then
they it kind of seems like their planet is just whatever the Emperor wants to
do with it rather than like of their own choosing. So I'd be curious
to see how different these different seats interact. I like that they have these
Chris knives, which are just I mean so Channi Zandaia's character says her is
made from the tooth of a sandworm, and I'm I don't I didn't know
if they were all teeth from different sandworms or if they were made from different
things. Did you guys kind of get a vibe for that? At least
he was made from the truth. Yeah, it was because they had their
own word for the sand worm. I forget what it was. And I
wasn't sure if that was like one specific one that they saw like as their
god, like it was like the main sandworm, or if it was just
all the sandworms to them, or like these holy type figures for them.
But no, I I just really love their dynamic with the sandworms and how
it was this something that was so much bigger than themselves and it was like
it was a spirit of the of the planet, but no, I I
don't for sure know if it was just the one because they had a specific
name, but I wasn't sure if that was like like for example, you
know, like like the name of the worm. Yeah, it seemed like,
yeah, hers was like from I don't know, one of the biggest,
baddest worms around. So I'm guessing all of their's are formed for different
different worms. I'm gonna assume that's what the Chris knife means. You mentioned
the recycling water. I like that one scene too, when they're at the
I think it's like the ecological Center and they have like what would be like
a little camping stove or something, and they all just spit on it to
get some get it loaded up in their canteens. I thought that was pretty
funny. I think, I mean, I'm kind of going past the Freeman
and talking about some Iraqis stuff in general here. But I also like the
the para compasses that they have. I did fully understand. It seems they've
talked about how rather than the rather than the compass, like pointing to like
what would be the equivalent of true North, Like are like a regular compass
would in our world. It's like it it kind of points to there's like
some sort of magnetic interference, and that's kind of what it's guiding to,
which is interesting, I think, because you kind of need to have a
greater understanding of the planet and the world because these I guess magnetic interferences are
going to kind of shift around the planet based on the sandstorms. But then
they also made it seem that one of the plant one of the moons that
we saw. I love those shots, by the way, when they show
the two moons kind of one almost eclipse in the other, I really like
that. It seems like one of the moons, or maybe some of them,
have a lot of magnetic interference on them as well. So maybe the
compasses are tracking based on the moon's position. But then that's interesting because in
the moon, I don't know, in theory, like our moon, it
kind of moves all over the sky, so it'd be interesting to see how
that works. But I thought it was it was interesting. Nonetheless, the
thing I really liked that it was kind of just set and I'm curious that
this is kind of alluding to what would happen and maybe one of the future
Dune books. I feel like this would not happen for hundreds of years,
so I don't know if we'll see it in this cinematic universe, if we're
if we even never get a sequel. But they talk about how there's just
like oceans beneath the sand, like far far beneath the surface, and I
thought that was really interesting. They talked about how the plants, like the
plant life that does grow on this on this planet is just their roots just
go down like I don't know, I guess hundreds of meters or something like
that, and Paul even mentions that, you know, oh, we'll bring
it well, we'll make it a paradise someday in the future. I thought
that kind of backstory of the planet was interesting because that seems like to terra
form a planet, to change it that much would take I don't know,
hundreds, if not thousands, or millions of years or something. But Paul's
like, oh, yeah, we'll get that. We'll get that going right
away as soon as I married one of the emperor's daughters. Whenever he's talking
about there, let's see what else here. There's man, there's just so
much. I also, I love the I guess. So basically, we
see a lot of equipment like the spice harvesters, and then we have kind
of like those scout those scout planes that kind of go and find the worms.
And then there's even like the dragonfly helicopter things. So are all of
those from the Harkenen or do you think there were like originally freeman things that
were kind of taken by the Harkening at least, like maybe the helicopters seemed
like something that freemen built or use or have used. But then I mean
we see them here. They're kind of just cruising through caves and going on
the surface. So did you guys take it like all that stuff and like
even that city, that like kind of Giza like city that we see with
all the pyramids and stuff like, do you think did you take it as
that was all freeman stuff that was taken or the Harkanins built that stuff when
they came to this planet to harvest the spice. Yeah, I'm not sure,
because it could have been someone like some other house that was sent there
by the empire, like even other than the Harricanans that we've just never been
introduced to. Maybe it was the Harrican ins. I felt like it was
a I don't know, because we saw the Harkening planet and like that architecture,
it was like it wasn't quite the same as like the buildings that they
had in uh Aracus. So maybe it was the Fremen like you said,
I also feel like the Freemen would just have like like what they what they
have with their zeches, the way the walls were built and stuff too.
Yeah, like yeah, yeah, it left a big mystery. But I
liked all the different like gear that was there that like the treadees people were
coming to just take over, like they're handing over the gear like of course
the hearkenings to not leave it in a good working condition. No, no,
she says it line like there's been many of men before you that have
tried this or been here, right, So I think it might be a
combination of other people definitely, whether it's a Freeman or the Fremen story,
or like maybe if there was another tribe that maybe lived there as well,
with people like a long time ago that created it, because I'm not sure
were they always living in the sand and the deserts? Were they up there?
Was it like them sand deserts and then someone else over there. I
don't know, it would be interesting. I bet if we did get more
we'd probably learn more of that because we probably learned a lot of origin of
this tribe and whatnot. But uh yeah, I don't I don't have like
a strong like I could go multiple ways on that one. There's some other
lore things that I found interesting. I guess because we're kind of talking about
that. There's this scene kind of earlier on when they get to Aracus where
there's a man kind of watering these twenty palm trees, and he talks about
how each palm tree, like each day takes the water five men would be
so therefore it's like one hundred men's water that they kind of used daily on
these palm trees. I thought that was an interesting note. It seemed like
that seemed like one of those things that it was almost like a religious thing,
like they they feel like the purple like the palm tree doesn't really provide
for them. Maybe it, you know, drops some coconuts every few years
or something like that, but it's really not a sustaining thing. It's just
like maybe to them it's like a sign. It's like a beacon. It's
I don't know, maybe maybe it's something that that one Freeman tribe used as
a way to show off to the other Freeman tribes that they're kind of opposing
or something. So I wasn't sure exactly what about it, but I thought
it was an interesting little Lord detail. I just really like that big shot
of them burning them all those trees down, like just a hard shot like
right before Batista, like literally, like it's funny because like he's chopping the
people down, so it's almost like he's chopping the trees down, but like
as they zoom into him taking all these people, like we got all this
flore of oh no, we can't. You know. Even Paul's like should
we take these trees down? Like oh no, they're you know, legendary,
they means so much. And then boom, they just they that just
shows that they're not this They're like take the spice is just there to like
completely like like just dissect the entire planet just so like just for they don't
got to burn those trees, but just a message of like kay, you
mess with us, We're gonna we're gonna take that all down. Mm hm,
I mean we kind of alluded to this too, but I just think
the whole idea of the spice this kind of like type of sand almost that
has had so many effects on the people that live on this planet, and
then it's also used for like space travel, for I guess the first ollar
space travel. It's just interesting because that's kind of the root of so many
wars through a mankind is just like a resource or resources, and so I
like that they scale it up and like this is a resource that is kind
of, by everyone's admission, like the most powerful resource in like I don't
know all of the universe. So I think that's interesting that like we're kind
of right in the middle of that checking out this really cool place with this
once in a lifetime resource. Yeah, and I like that they establish like
the people that live here are using it for not like good but like things
for their lives, for their well being, and the other people like,
ah, we just need it to be rich and to like travel and stuff
like that. It just shows the dichotomy that so that I really like that.
I love that the Freeman erupt from the sand to surprise attack people every
time they showed it. It was so much fun. Yeah, that's screaming
and everything like that. That's another thing that I just loved on, like
showing how a tuned with like the planet the freme and wear and uh,
just like whether it's their suits, they're like they just evolved to live on
that planet. Like I think even someone in the movies makes a line like,
oh, you wouldn't last however many minutes out there if you're not like
a framin already like like one of the locals that are just so evolved to
it, and like obviously they know how to fight in their own home world,
like even in the beginning when it just shows them like ambushing the hearkening
like mining ships and stuff like that. Like that whole it's very like avatar
vibes, you know, with like the local like the natives versus like the
people coming there just to like harvest it and take take it. Like it's
very similar in that sense. But I just I find that really interesting,
uh when when something like that happens, you know in the movie, in
the movie. Yeah, and it's very tragic in the ecological center, like
that scene as well, because they kind of someone like spots. I forget
if that was a hearkening or an imperial trooper at that point I came to
the ecological center, but someone like spots them and then they all just like
can sink into the set and like instantly. So I don't know if that's
like a I don't know if that's like some technique they learn how to shame
me down, or if it's like their suits that do that, But either
way, that's that's pretty cool. And then yeah, this sand erupting is
almost like something like a smoke screen for them as well, Like it's just
it's just so smart, and uh, yeah, I love that. Travis
mentioned the walk. I love the I don't love they have a special walk
that mimics the the way the wind would affect the sand. Did you guys
feel like Timothy shallow may I feel like his walk was a bit lazy,
Like I don't like there's a couple of shots where he was just doing it
for an extended period of time, and to me, it seemed like he
wasn't really doing it all that well. And I mean maybe he wasn't,
because they eventually that worm did kind of catch on to them, But I
think Jessica's was extremely lazy. I thought his was okay with Jessica's like trying
to copy him afterwards, Now she wasn't trying, like this is the first
time she's heard of it. So at least I'll just tell alone. They're
injured, they're under durest. You know, they've been through long day.
It's not gonna be their best like worm walk, you know. But yeah,
and I guess I just want to show out him because I haven't done.
And then I've always choked about this of like he's the hottest thing since
Slice spread that was the thing. And then once I start seeing all this
stuff, it's like, oh, yeah, he can really do good.
And because there's so many times where it's like the chosen one and you look
like a Mark Hamill, you could even argue Keanu Reeves, they're not always
the greatest one and they don't have to be the greatest actor because most time
they're just like reacting to things. Right. It's just like I said,
like they're not an empty vessel like a video game character, but it is
kind of like that to some extent, where they're just being lots of exposition.
This is what this character, why they are, and why they're created.
But it's not really about who they are. I think we did get
a little bit that I love when he freaks out on Jessica, for like,
why did you introduce me to all this? And you made me a
freaking stuff. I think like it's a hard role to play the chosen one
because that's always such a broad term and it can be kind of boring.
But I think he does a great job just like little moments, little facial
features, as he does with every single character. And I think Chelmy is
just like he's just so good every time he's on screen. It's just he's
gonna and this guy's so young, Like I can't wait to see the years
of performance this is this guy has. But I think he does a great
job as Paul because well it sounds like even to me, like look at
someone like Avatar, where Sam Wardington's like, yeah, he's a fine actor.
It's just like he's the guy that's gonna be here taking place to place.
It's more about the event the other characters. But I think he stands
I think in a sequel he can stand out even more. But I thought
Shao May did such a fantastic job overall. Yeah, he was a great
lead to like take us through this story. Like Travis said, so hot
right now, Like he's just I don't know. I I've only had two
movies come out this weekend. What was the other one? French Dispatch?
It is a yeah, it's a Wes Anderson movie. So yeah, yeah,
I've only seen him in Little Woman. I nothing else, but he
I just know that he's really really popular in like the talks and everything like
that, and I think he really delivered on a more like like I feel
like a lot more general audience type. People are gonna know him now from
this movie. It's gonna be like, oh, do you know that I'm
from Doune not you know, like I from Little Women. So I think
it's a good, like a big movie for him to lead off on,
just for people to get a taste of what he can actually do as an
actor. And he was great, especially like the scene with the Benny,
like with the box. I just it's just so gruesome, you know,
like obviously he's not actually in pain there. Maybe it is. Let's let
the trick on why he was such such a great actor that's with him,
yeah, or he's gonna report them soon. But yeah, another scene that
could be super cheesy if you act it wrong right, like yeah, like
you put in a cage in that scene, we're gonna be laughing or asks
off the whole time. But like you get shallman who has like some gravitas,
like okay, you believe every second of the scene. He's very very
young. I compare I sometimes say Christian Piale, but he's very much like
a young Leo. To me is that he has a heart throw thing going
on and stuff. So mm hmm. Yeah. I haven't seen him act
previous to this as well, so it's kind of interesting. It's because,
yeah, I've heard it been talked up for the last few years and winning
all these Oscars. I don't know if he's actually won any for he's just
nominated, but all this talk around him, so it's cool to actually see.
And the only time I've seen him act is there's this SNL skit he
did that my sister showed me where he's talking about having a tiny horse.
It's pretty funny. I would definitely recommend that, but it's definitely no it's
no Dune acting. It's not the same kind of performance. He's not the
chosen one in this tiny horse skit. But everyone should go check out that
skit as well. I really liked his I mean he's chemistry with everyone was
good, but particularly with Duncan and even with with Gurney. He's kind of
more kind of a hard ass training character. But the way he had like
kind of a brotherly but also kind of looking up to Duncan relationship. I
love that dynamic. I love the kind of banter. I love when he
Duncan kind of it's like, oh, you've been bulking up there, you
got some muscle. He's like, well he really think so he's like no.
I love their kind of back and forth and then even the way he
greets through fear or tough fear. Once again, I wrote these names down,
but like man, I don't know how to pronounce them all the time.
But that's kind of the guy you were talking about. Kirkland, who
who is for the treatise. He does like they thing, and he's when
he downloads all the information the way he like it seems like when they arrive
on Aracus, it's like a very formal ceremony that's a crane where they're all
slowly walking out of their ship and kind of greeting the people that they now
rule over. But then he just kind of breaks the line and runs over
to his friend and gives him a big hug and hey, how you do
any buddy? And I love that, yeah, because he does feel like
just this kid that's full of excitement in a lot of ways, which which
which pairs well off of like this kind of royal character who maybe has always,
you know, been brought up to act a certain way and kind of
situations like that. But instead he's just very personable and just has that child
like wonder to him still. I mean, I don't know if he does
by the end of the movie, but at least in the kind of the
some of the first scenes when we see him on Oracus. Obviously at that
point he's already had like a lot of disturbing dreams and he's freaking out about
stuff. But I think that's what's great about him is he is this chows
him one character, but he has a lot of dynamic to him, and
everything that he does in this movie of having like a lot of power feels
earned. I think it's good that we have a training scene of both the
voice previous to when he actually is able to do it. A fighting scene
with Gurney before he actually has to use that kind of thing earlier on in
the movie. I think those things are those little scenes are good character building
moments, but also help make sell those scenes when he actually does have to
do these big, big fight scenes or real they have to show off his
powers and he's able to. Yeah. I think also like someone in that
role could be so easily seen as just like a super brady kid, right
like he like he's literally just like a prince, like all this stuff is
going to come to him whether he wants, like whether he wants to work
for it or not. But like just the moments that we had with his
dad and with his mom, I think it really showed of like where he
comes, like like what made him the man who he is, and like
he has a good sense of duty. He doesn't seem like super lazy.
When his mom like wants to like get him to train, like sure he's
like a little push like come on, I just woke up, blah blah
blah. But then sure enough he like tries doing the voice with her,
like doing his lessons. Like I just feel like he's really been just groomed
that way to be the character that he is from his parents, from his
other influences, whether it's Gerty Duncan Idaho. Fucking love that name. That
was like the coolest name of a character. Sounds like an action hero name.
Yeah, Duncan Idaho. He definitely sounds like the worst FBI but yeah,
you know, And they also do a good job of showing like he's
kind of not sheltered, but yeah, he is well protected, like he's
doing that training every day. I think the training was also smart because it
established what those shields do without a character being like why do you wear this
shield? And that's where you get the bad ex with this shiit. Yeah,
especially that one shot like the whole movie, like so much gorgeous photography,
like this woman when they go through the storm and they're shooting the insie
inside the ship and you see like Jessica's hand grab the wall and all this
stuff, like ton of things. But when they're doing the battle, when
we've joked about them getting fucked up stuck in the middle, they just show
like a bird's of you and you can just see all the blue shields like
turning red, like really cool way to symbolize of like and it's super smart
in a PG thirteen movie that you don't got to show any blood in these
moments because it's just like, oh yeah, look at all that red.
That means they're dead. You don't got to show anything. Like there is
some brutal stuff this movie, but they always like cut away and everything.
But oh, I was gonna say about uh, we're talking about the training.
Oh. And then in that moment of he goes out there to save
the people with that walker thing with the sand worm that was breaking everything like
that, and then he's having his visions, so he's been freaking out.
He's seeing all the stuff going down. But like right when they get back,
like his dad is like, hey, you're too important to do anything
like that, Like you know how many people are depending on you? Like
you like there's so it's it's weird of like his mother in a way of
saying it's like you're the one. But then his father's also saying, like
you can't be the hero, like you have to let other people die before
you do. So, like you guys are talking about, you see the
dynamic of his parents in them, but constantly throughout the movie you see different
shades and yeah, he's a good character or good kind of moments with everybody,
which is good because when they do die or parish, you feel bad
because he feels bad and that works and everything like that. So mm hm.
And another scene to shout out to the one with his with his dad
back on Caaladan. I'm guessing it's a graveyard. It's it's kind of there's
all these concrete slabs. He's rectangle green labs. Yeah, I'm guessing there's
a graveyard, he says, Dude for them. Yeah, I miss that
scene. I miss that note. But I love the dialogue there the way,
and you know, maybe maybe the Duke isn't being truthful here and in
saying that he doesn't have to take on this responsibility, He doesn't have to
be the next duke or take on this power the role that he has.
He doesn't have to follow in his dad's footsteps. Maybe he maybe he's lying
about that. Maybe he has to do no matter what. But I love
that he makes it feel like a choice, and he doesn't. It just
seems very fatherly rather than I don't know, just like some very official like
signing of the paper kind of thing. I love the dynamic between them in
that scene, Uh just such a just really established the father son relationship.
In that moment, I felt like, uh, taya, I'm gonna let
you talk about Paul, but I'm just gonna write off some notes and get
out of here because I got to help with the kids to bed so and
one's a little six. That's why I don't want to leave Emily, dude.
So I just want to show a few things. When Paul was having
that vision by the Walker, I like when he's like, oh, I
know your steps, old man, because they made that joke earlier. When
he's like, oh, like you wouldn't hear me walking? He's like,
I know you're walking. He's like what if someone like mastered or anything like
that, and it's like, well, I'd figure it out. I like
that even in his mid trance, he like had in his mind that I
was Gurney walking to him even in the sand. So it shows again it's
establishing like, yeah, he has these powers, but they also training to
be a warrior. And we see him off even that like dream sequence where
he's messing people up with Zendia smiling, it's like he's he can go.
So I really like that. I love the very first time we meet with
Zandia's character's name Shawnee, no idea, Okay, so Zandia Shaani. Either
way, I really love the first time. I'll say, it's all these
visions. Right then we get to the little dug out of the area there.
I love the very first time we see here. It's a shot of
the knife, the knife that he's been visional time. It's not a shot
of her. You hear her voice. The camera shoots the knife and then
it pans up to her. It's such a fun way of like kind of
just that symbolization. And also they do that right before Paul's gonna have his
fight, The shot of Paul versus his hand with the ring on the rock
and then he turns around. It it's so good, like just the like
the things you see first, so kind of like what's propelling you forward or
the past and the future. So I really like that. One moment I
loved is Duncan when he follow those guys to get out of that area.
There's just three dudes that like just backed up, they didn't want anything to
do with and then they just let him take a ship. They didn't even
die for their people. They're just like, nah, like we know Duncan
because I like multiple times like, oh he was trained by Duncan, he's
training like they establish, Hey, this guy is not who you want to
mess around with. So really like that. I think that's all. Like
the little beats say oh, the only thing I felt we was like a
minor con. I don't know why they played this beat off of Jessica when
Paul was starting to unchanged, Jessica like looked at him and then she turned
around and like Paul looked at her. Not needed. It was weird,
like it's something you do with like romantic couples, like a meedic beat,
and they did that with the mother and son. I was like, uh,
all right on that note, though, I loved when he revealed that
she's Pregnant's like, how could you know that? I don't even know that,
Like it's been like only a few weeks. So I really like that,
and uh yeah, no, that's everything I wanted to stay. But
like I said, you gotta sick kid, you don't want to They're a
little messy, So I yeah, thank you Joe for your time. Uh,
Taylor, you can tell about Paul. I'll just say that I would.
I think you probably knew from the opening of this like I would give
it a ten to ten for enjoyment. I have minor quibbles, like I
said, like, oh, well, like Simpatis for this is that,
but nothing. I was like, man, that really took me down.
Just a massive scale movie, just everything from acting, scale effects, like
it's just top notch. It's one of these things like it is an expensive
movie, but you just see every piece of money that was spent on this
on the screen, Like it doesn't there's not a moment where it took me
out of like oh look at this bad CGI. Like I hate to say
it, but like that's where I was with like the finale sung She where
it's like the whole CGI just took me out. I was like, I
don't believe this world. I believed everything, every area of this world and
the scale that DNEVELNW does is just incredible. He's just like I cannot hopefully
it's Dune when he does next, but whatever he does next, I'm always
just can't wait to see. And yeah, it's just a massive kind of
You've got to say the word epic for these type of movies, and it
has that you know, it has also I don't want to say this,
but it has like what I wish Star Wars really had right now, you
know, like just this whole vibe and everything. So I loved it.
I list the rest of the rest of the view, and you guys have
a good night. Well for me, Paul, I think Timothy absolutely landed
that role. Like it was absolutely just top tier. I couldn't really recall
anything else off some of my head that I had seen him in, Like
the only thing that I was aware of was like it was that, Okay,
he's gonna be playing young Willy Wonka in the new prequel Chocolate Factory movie.
But I just I loved how I loved his his vibe. I loved
how he looked. I was getting like if young Kyler vibes. And I'm
sad that Travis just left because I would have loved to have said this,
like if we were to get like a young Kylo Wren like Ben Solo thing,
it would have to be with Timothy for sure. That's just the way,
Like the apparel they were wearing, it's just he the hair, Yeah,
I love the hair. He just he dominated that role and I can't
remember which one you guys pinpointed it. But he didn't come off as that
spoiled preppy like I'm the Prince, I can do whatever you want, like
that was you kerk okay. He was just he was just so uh maybe
shit like a little bit of it, but it wasn't from like a snobby
kind of entitlement position when he was dealing with the witch lady and he was
kind of standing up for his mom. It was more or less like coming
out of like a a position of honor and what's right. Yea more so
than happy And I like that. And he really sold me on that role
of especially him trying to learn by working in the court with his father,
trying to understand like the political side and the right thing to do and the
right thing to do was hey, like oh where you know his mom was
saying like, let's get you out of here where he's thinking, No,
we're gonna work with the Fremens and we're going to you know, harvest that
desert power. See the guy surfing on the sandworm, So that's what he
wants. Yeah, I gotta I got a movie that I know that you've
seen that he's in okay, ready for this. He was an Interstellar.
He played the role of Tom when he was fifteen years old. So it's
like a short gap that is so obscure, you don't know. Yeah,
I forgot about that. I'm not sure where you guys want to go next.
I just wanted to quickly mention it because you guys had already talked about
that moment where Jessica is like outside of the room when she like brings Paul
to like meet like the head of that organization and she's or the cult we're
calling it, and like just her like range of emotions in that moment,
because it's like it's one like it's it's the imposing force that she knows that
she can't like go against, Like her child that she loves so much is
just literally in the situation that he like she can never see him again possibly
if it goes wrong in this situation she is having like she does have inklings
that he is the chosen one, so you will pass the trials. But
like also there's just so much like pressure like shown in her emotions in that
scene. I thought it was so masterfully done and like just her in general.
I mean, I mentioned the Nonspoilter section. I thought she was like
the MVP of this just because there's so many moments where she comes off as
like super super motherly, like like her life is just around her her son.
But then there's moments when I don't remember specifically when it happens, but
like it's as if she has like her own plans, like going into a
situation and like things might be going well for like her and Paul, but
she's also like kind of like, oh, this isn't going the way that
I'd planned it, and it doesn't really like talk about that, Like I
know we would know more down the line, But she's just she's just a
character that's so interesting because cause it's just so hard to pinpoint like really where
her allegiance lies, Like she's she seems loyal to, Like what's her relationship
with the duke the like before like Paul's dad Oscharis's character. Yeah, just
because they mentioned they're not married, Yeah, I mean they're not married,
but I don't know if that's Yeah, I don't know if that's a benjesterd
thing, Like they obviously have a kid together, so yeah, I don't
know what there there's probably some term for it in the Dune universe or something.
Yeah, but yeah, they're they're definitely they're definitely Dayton. You could
say, yeah, they're they're bone Bros. At least, But like,
I I just love that, Like there's moments where she seems super loyal to
him, super loyal to like House of Treades, super loyal to Paul,
super loyal to the Benedjester. Like she just she just seems so interesting.
And then in that scene that you guys were talking about, where uh,
like the Hearkenins are like basically just talks them in the desert, and like
you get to see just how scary and powerful she actually can be. And
oh my god, I'm just so glad that this movie like ended with her
still with Paul, because I just I want to know more about this character
so much more, and I guess I'll know more about it in that series
that Travis was talking about, the Benedjest right one. But nonetheless, I
just I can't praise Rebecca ver Accent enough when she's in movies. I just
think she's such a phenomenal actress and I'm literally getting her in Mission Impossible these
days. I was happy to see her in this because I feel like I've
just seen her in kind of some smaller roles here there. I guess doctor
Sleep she had a pretty big role. Yeah that's right. But but yeah,
I mean you guys have been praising her for years now, and I
feel like I feel like now I get it. I feel like, now
I've seen this performance, was like, yeah, she is amazing. She
really can show just this range of emotions and in one scene can display i
don't know, just a variety of backstory that you're just gleaming from the way
her facial reactions are. Yeah, and just like across the whole spectrum can
she can act it out. So she was a big surprise character. I
want to talk a little bit about Duncan to me, yes, I like
the storyline of him being sent as like a spy before the rest of the
treaties moved to Arakis, so he can kind of get the lay down,
maybe learn some of the I guess, differentiate between some of the seeches,
maybe learn who are kind of the Freeman leaders and be able to do some
form of diplomacy as much as as much as they can get away with.
So I like that part of him I mentioned I like his chemistry with Paul.
I did feel like not to show not to you know, rain On
Jasone was prayed. I feel like, to me, some a couple scenes,
I felt like his acting was a bit subpar, particularly like one of
the scenes he's like flying a helicopter and it's just like obviously he's like alone
in a room acting that, and I just felt like he was maybe a
bit cheesy. Maybe it's just him, I don't know, Maybe it was
just me and the way it hit me. But to me, I felt
like a couple of times he was maybe a bit cheesy in a movie that
had a couple jokes, but none of the jokes were really like, you
know, meant to make the theater up with laughter, right. They were
just like little jokes or little character things, kind of chuck lighter, smile
at But I don't know if there's any big hajas. Whereas he felt like
maybe he was hammered it up in a couple scenes. But kirklend it sounds
like you probably will not agree with that sentiment. No, I like Jason
Momoa's is getting to that point where I just see him as Jason Momoa and
like he's just a badass like person in general, so like I just always
see him as that type of character. I thought he fit the role of
Duncan Idaho really well. And that's me saying that I've never seen Duncan Idaho
and any interpretations like before this one. There was a moment that like I
literally just burst out loud, and I like burst out loud laughing. I
felt bad for people around me because it just caught me off by surprise.
There's a moment in this movie when he's just like shaved, and I've never
ever ever seen Jason Momoa without a beard before, and it honestly like threw
me off. His face is so much like round her than what I was
expecting, and like the shirt he's wearing that in that scene, he just
looks like a pirate, Like his shaved his hair is like in a thing,
like he's got like a white shirt on with like these like bracer type
things on. And he was like that for majority of like the scenes that
he was in the movie, and I had never seen like a trailer with
that, so it just completely shocked me. So anytime that he was on
screen like with the beard on, and it would like go close to him,
whether it was like a serious scene or something like, I just couldn't
help but like chuckle myself, like I just thought it looked so strange.
Again, that's a me thing. It just caught me. It caught me
in my funnies for uh, for some reason. I don't know why I
find that so funny, but it just it totally show. It hit me
too. Yeah, I didn't. I don't think. I I don't think
I like had run it through my mind of why it was weird to me,
But yeah, there was a one It's like this is strange, and
maybe that was part of it. Maybe like maybe a lot of the time
he has these same facial reactions and other roles, but like the beard hides
it, you know. Yeah, like when you can see it all there,
it's like, oh, all his acting is on display. Now there's
nowhere to hide. But yeah, and I think like I just wasn't really
able to take him too seriously because of that, And like I can't really
remember like like the specific moments in general, because I just remember like chuckling
to myself that I'm like, this is just so strange for me to see
because I've only seen him with a beard, But until that moment, I
didn't know that I had never seen him with a beard before, if that
makes any sense. But just him is duncan Idaho, like when he's coming
out of like the ship in the very beginning, like just his you mentioned
earlier, Dylan, just his dynamic with Paul, it was just so so
great. There's so much love there. You can just tell that they're really
good buddies. Every time I saw him, like or sorry, let me
rewind that, like when when he is leaving like the planet to go to
Oracus, and Paul's like, like, I need to go with you because
I headed this dream where you're gonna die. Up until that point, I
didn't know that Paul's dreams like weren't coming true like fully, so I didn't
think I was gonna see him again. So when I actually saw him in
Oracus, I was like so relieved. I'm like, oh, okay,
I'm gonna get more of this character because just just a fan. Yeah,
no exactly. And I think that was like intentionally done because and it was
done really well. But because I just I like Momoa, I wanted to
see more of him. I thought he looked badass, and I thought the
usage of him was really cool. How he was this like uh intermediary between
like the friend and people and the treads. I liked that he had like
learned from them, gain gain like gain respect with them, Like it seemed
like they actually respected him as like a soldier and he was learning their ways.
We talked about like that that really funny scene with uh heavier Bardam comes
in like spits on the table and then like Duncan's there to kind of like
smooth the ground, explain like it's just who they are, to sign of
respect. I thought he was really really good. I'm sad he died,
but Travis mentioned like his death scene it was pretty badass, just going out
like a like a true soldier, and those were like the the how do
I say it again, Dylan, it's like sou Salbakar or something like that
Emperor. Let me see I wrote it down here, Well, let me
reference my notes. Sarkar. Yeah, like they they they're just so menacing.
And then just to see him just like dismantling them even though they had
like barriers and everything, like he just it go. It went to show
the pinnacle of what the a trade soldier could be because I think they even
make a line in the movie that like the trade soldiers like are really well
known for just like being very disciplined. I was getting very like Roman legionnaire
vibes. I think that's probably intentional, Like it's the way it's written.
They just seem like so so just gosh, what I'm I even trying to
say, well groomed and like very uh dis yes, thank you, that's
the word I was looking for. So I I like seeing of what the
pinnacle of what that soldier could be like, right with Duncan Idaho and fuck
his name is so good. Yeah, it's funny because like Idaho not a
reference to the place in this world, right unless they're exactly Earth somewhere that
we assume was the same. Because I think they like they they say that
like the Racus is within the Cannapus like star system, which is like a
star. It's like the brightest star in our sky, I believe. I
don't know if there is supposed to be like some connectivity where it is like
takes place in our world. It's just in a galaxy, far far away
kind of thing. But yeah, I I agree with your points there,
Taylor, any any any more thoughts on Dunkin had that beardless mamoa hate you
Taylor surprise? Yeah, I was surprised. Yeah, I mean you always
see him in the beard. No, no, I've seen him out of
shirt, but out out of beer me too, got one in my room.
I love this character he was. It was just exciting. I again
another character actor that I totally spaced on, expecting to see him here,
and when that ship landed, he hopped out immediately. The chemistry that he
had with Paul I really really was just riding off of that I thought.
I loved. I think it was you that mentioned it on the Big Brother
kind of vibe that they had. It was just it was doing it for
me. I loved it. I got really upset when we have the exposition
about, hey, you are in my dream and you die, let me
go with you on this first scutting mission because I feel like I can help
you. And that made me upset because I thought, Okay, is he
going to go there? Is he going to die on his first mission?
And that's what they're going to kill him off when we see him come back
again after Paul lands there with the rest of the house. I'm super happy
that he's alive because I thought, okay, his dream didn't come true.
This is great, But then sure enough he gets He goes out like a
badass though in that hallway. But it's just it's still upsetting because I'm glad
that they kept some characters alive for the second part and whatever other parts that
they choose to do, but I'm still at the same time wishing that we
didn't lose a lot of these characters right away. But that's the Game of
Thrones aspect that was brought in. It feels like, okay, this is
like heavy. We got a lot of these heavy hit or big name actors
that are already killed off, which is crazy to think about. Mm hmm,
yeah, it was. It was sad, especially like just knowing that
there's a part one and like we lost a lot of big names. Like
going into future installments, I mean, there's so many great actors out there
that you can pull into next, ones that haven't been introduced in the story.
But and I guess since we're talking about those types of characters. Gurdy
that was his name, right, Josh Brawn's character. I mean sorry,
said again. Gurney with an A not a T. Gurney there I was
coming Gerdy Gurney. I I loved his role. Like Dylan you mentioned it
earlier, like he fit into like that that cliche type, like hard ass
character, like tough love on like the Prince even though you know like he
he loves them at the same time, but also he's like, you gotta
be prepared, You always gotta be ready, like just hitting those those really
famous lines that we've already seen before. But yeah, I I loved his
I love that he fit into that role though, because you kind of have
to have someone like that when you're dealing with like a royal type bloodline,
right, Like you gotta have good guards and like people that are actually taking
their job seriously. So I loved his usage. I really liked Travis mentioned
it, but when Paul is having like that trip out scene from The Spice
when the when the Worm's coming to get him, and like he's just able
to recognize like at the footstep, and I don't know. I I like
their their dynamic and it wasn't flushed out too too much, but from what
it was shown, I thought it was so well done. And Josh Brown
is that character man. He's just he's so good. Even like the line
where Oscar Isaac when they're all standing like waiting for like the like the envoy
of the basically like a diplomat from like the Empire, and and he just
like quickly says to to Gurney, he's like a smile or does that line,
and he's just like so like straight faced, because he's just like that
that cold military man, right, And I thought he was really good.
I wanted to quickly shout out, doctor you, who kind kind of is
in the movie a few times and ends up being more important than we would
have expected. But I like the Garat because I feel like he does.
He like the way he kind of whispers a couple of things in Paul's ears
early on, and it just shows that he's like looking out for him,
but obviously already at this point, you know, he's probably already been kind
of suckered in by a hearkening. And it's not in anything of bad faith,
Like he's just his wife and kid was like taken, so it all
makes sense. But I like the dynamic because I feel like you can kind
of see in his face a bit that he's like hiding something he's got,
like some mystery to him, and obviously we find out later what that was.
But I think it's interesting that I like that he even though he's you
know, doing the Hearkening's bidding by turning their shields off and their radar and
their communications, I think is what he did. And then obviously he took
out the duke as well. It still feels like he's a character that is
like redeemable in a way. Obviously what he did is awful, but you
can understand why he did it. And I like that he kind of leaves
the care package, so to speak with Paul, he leaves him the ring
and he has like the note that he gives them with it has like the
diamond that he had on his on his head. I wonder if that diamond
is like it like signifies their doctor. I wonder if like all doctors are
supposed to have that thing or him specific thing. But I'm guessing it was
the doctor, right, because that pack. The reason that package was put
on that ship, was it because it was supposed to be like a med
kit, right. I think that was like what the idea was, so
it probably was a doctor specific thing, but yeah, I don't know if
I really have any more to say about the character, like he doesn't have
too much dynamic to him, but I thought like, yeah, it made
sense as like the character who kind of turns against his people, but it
makes sense why he did it, but like he's still doing what he can
against the hurriken Ins and obviously, yeah, he gave the tooth to the
Duke as well, So I like the way that character was used. I
love that. I think I think that's like a rare trait too for a
role like that, because we've seen that so many times of like okay,
well who betrays them? It's this ran, this one random character and he's
just like, oh, fuck you guys, I'm betraying you. But here
it was like he was torn, like like I literally just have to do
this for the one I love, but also here you're gonna take out the
baron, like the evil person, I'm gonna give this ring to your son,
like the bloodline's not over, like like he's he's he's very torn for
what he's doing, but he's also helping them out. Obviously he's betraying them,
but like it's so easy to just be like, oh, screw you,
guys, I'm gonna betray you, but like just I don't know,
like leave it there, Like there was more layers to his betrayal and very
sad ending. I kind of saw that coming. It doesn't seem like the
Barons that uh, I don't know, just that nice of a guy.
I kind of assumed he was just gonna get murked like that. But I'm
glad he at least, I don't know, had the possibility to take out
the baron with that tooth. He marked his family already too, because I
thought that, Okay, obviously his family's still alive. But when the Baron's
like, oh, I'll send you to see your family and then he kills
him, like okay, that's probably a pretty strong cater that his wife and
kidder dead. Yeah. Yeah, I think Also, like I was gonna
say, I just loved his powers in general, like being a doctor but
like doesn't really need instruments. It seems like he's got some sort of psychic
ability to like read Paul's vitals, just his look in general, Like Dylan,
you're mentioning like or you're posing the question rather if like that symbol is
just for doctors or if that's like his house simpol or something like that just
makes me really want to know more about those type of characters. Even God,
I'm I was gonna try the name there, I knew I would have
butchered it. But like the people that are like calculating the numbers, just
the different types of people in the world just so fascinating. And it just
goes to show like the world building that they were doing in this and just
just showing different things that are in this world that are so so different than
what we're we're used to, right, h that was all my like character
or like story specific notes. If you do you have anything else kind of
in those categories, Nope, I have no magative one. More on the
characters we should we should mention the sandworms a little bit more. I love
these as just like a threat of this world. I love that they can
just be I think they they set up to six hundred meters in length,
which is just fucking insane, And yeah, I think it was just such
a great just menacing completely just this threat that you cannot even conceive, this
threat that you can like see the effects of what it does, but you
can never you can't really see the entire thing because it's just so massive.
I think all the scenes with the sandworm with the sand words in them were
really interesting, and we're very intense, even if you know, like,
well, obviously Paul is gonna make it out of here live. But there
was even some scenes where like the one where where Paul and Jessica are running
away like and trying to get to that rock, like I didn't even know
maybe in that moment, maybe like Jessica could have died there, like I
could have seen that, And I feel like they just because we had seen
so many other characters dying, you know, I feel like Paul's pretty safe.
Everyone else is like up for up, up to get taken out here.
So I like that they kind of had that imposing thread at all times,
and that same when we're seeing the same we're coming for the the I
guess spice refinery thing, the spice harvester is the world I'm looking for,
Like I love that whole scene, and I like that the free ride them,
I think that was really interesting as well. You kind of mentioned the
Thumpers. I think that's great as like an adaptation of how to deal with
them. But I also love just in general that they track people or prey
based on rhythmic noises. I think that's just yeah tremors, right, yeah,
it's waiting for Kevin Bagan and this no I I love them as just
like a neutral villain, right, like like they're not really on anyone's side.
They're just on Oracus's side. It it seems like there's some I don't
know, sort of relationship between like the like the native the fram and people.
But like I still feel like if they don't have those thumpers, and
like obviously they have these dances, like the worms don't know that like oh,
I'm gonna go eat these these people that are the Hearkenins or something like
that, you know, like they just they just go off the vibrations and
just such a cool type of villain. And I mean I've seen giant worms
before in the past. A lot of them are probably inspired by Dune,
honestly, because I don't know when the book was made or anything like that,
but just that idea of on this planet at all times. There's multiple
like of these just giant worms of like Dylan said, like they can grow
up to like six hundred feet can't even comprehend what the size of that was.
But I love the usage of them. I thought the first time that
we saw it with that scene with like the spice harvester was just so so
cool and like when you just see like the mouth open up basically a sarlac
pit, just yeah, just so menascine, and then later on with Jessica
and and then it like rises up and then just kind of looking at them
there. I was expecting, I don't know, there to be a lot
more emphasis on like Paul being the Chosen One, like maybe he's able to
like commune with it or something in that moment didn't happen. Probably would get
that down the line, but yeah, I'm glad that it didn't, right
because everything else we've talked about in terms of his combat strength or his ability
to use the voice power, I don't know if that had a name for
it, like when they can and they get called it the voice and at
one point this is called it the Way of the Voice. I'm like,
I am watching Sky the movie amazing Boom. So yeah, like all those
other things that he's able to do as the Chosen One are all like,
Okay, he's the chosen one. But he actually we we know like from
previous experience that he was working on these things, he was training, he
was trying to get to that point. If he just randomly out of nowhere
was able to, you know, tame this worm, I feel like that
would have been He's like, well, that's something I'm super curious for it.
If we do get the sequel, is man, I really want to
see how they do it. I want to see what. Yeah, if
it's like some piece of equipment they have, or if it's just like some
relationship they've built, because obviously if they have the walk and stuff, like,
the worms will still kill them. It will still eat the freemen,
but there is a way that they can get on their backs and use them.
And even then, like all those people are just standing by when that
guy is riding it around. So I don't know if like somehow maybe that
one that worm they found like at birth or something and like trained it.
Like, I'm really curious to see how they do that, if it is
just equipment thing, or if it was if it is some like relationship that
they've built with the worms over the hundreds of I don't know how long they've
been on this planet, but let's say hundreds or thousands of years, I'm
really curious to see that. Yeah, and anyone else feel like the voice
felt like another version of the jedime control many and the chat I get,
like, yeah, absolutely. I think the way that it was portrayed,
though, it made it very like its own thing, how like it would
be this very loud voice, almost like it's internally and then like there was
a couple moments where you see them like walk and do the action, but
there's sometimes where like the action just already happened, and like it's exactly like
if I was affected by the voice that way, like I wouldn't see myself
doing the act. It's just like once it's over, it's like, oh
my god, I just threw my buddy out of the ship or something like
that, or oh my god, I'm already like right in front of this
lady kneeling. I love the way that was shown and with like the audio
effect, it was just so imposing and so creepy, and like it gave
these like with the ben the benigizre it, it just gave them so much
power. And I'm seeing this like, Okay, it's elderly lady like almost
like an aristocrat type look, and then all of a sudden, she just
like snaps his voice. It's just like, oh my god. Okay,
she's like the one of the most powerful characters probably this entire movie, you
know, Like it was just it was very well done in my opinion.
Yeah, it was great. I have some I got. Okay, here's
the thing I think maybe my favorite, like just individual moment was in that
in that Paul and Jessica scene when that worm is chasing them to that rock
in the theater. This was like one of the best theater experiences I feel
like I've ever had for that moment alone. Like whatever it was the audio
in this theater that I've never been to, this theater that I went to
last night, but or on what day is it today? I went on
Friday. I've never been in this theater before, but it had like this
three D audio something going on where it was like the ground was rumbling during
that scene, like just specifically and only below me. It was like rumbling
the worms coming up to get you, earthquake underneath me. It was fucking
amazing the way they were able to do that in the theater like I,
I mean, I'm for years I was like, man, I don't really
care about this three D, Like I'll just go for the two D.
Anytime there's an option, we would go to the movies. But I was
so glad I went for the three D and whatever. The audio system this
theater had made that scene so immersive and that was just like, yeah,
I was just I just felt like I was in that scene with those characters
and I felt uneasy because I'm like shaking my chest as they're underneath my feet.
So I I don't know if that had the same effect for you,
Kirklin in the theater. Yeah, I saw it in the Extreme theater.
You've been to that theater, I'm pretty yeah, I'm sure said. Yeah,
it's called like the three D audio type thing, and it's it definitely
was like affecting. I think I felt it more so with the voice moments
because it was just like a quiet scene all asuden it's just like really loud
and like as if it's in your head and like it's coming all around me
from the top, like it's coming from the roof and everything just all around
me. But also just like those type of moments where like I know what
happened for sure in that scene that you just described with the with them running
from the worm, but also some other moments and this is a big like
Hans Zimmer thing, Like I felt like the audio just added so much to
those suspenseful moments. I don't even know how to like describe the music that
was going on, but like a lot of it was just this like very
like weird chanting type thing and it was just like very tone setting, and
it just I don't know, it just creeped me out, and it added
so much like anxiety to those scenes where it's like, oh my god,
this is so intense, and maybe I was getting vibrations, but I feel
like maybe my senses just tuned more to like the audio, and I thought
that it was I mean, in the Nonsploi as we mentioned the music by
like Hans Zimmer, but like, holy shit, it just carried this movie
to a whole other level and it was so masterly well done, like Hans
Zimmer is just on another level. Travis mentioned like No Time to Die like
again, just stellar music in that one, and yeah, it was just
you know, you know that meme where it's like John Williams like playing the
piano on fire. That's Hans Zimmer, Like his piano is literally just engulfed
in flames. Yeah, and I felt it in those in those scenes,
in those moments, and like it wasn't even just the intense scenes like when
it was like the more emotional moments. It was just everything was just ten
out of ten music wise, like even when the ships are rising out of
the water when house so it's like that's like, yeah, that was that
was the three D was like, that was just an amazing shot. I
that might be my favorite single shot of the movie is the ship's coming up
bird's eye view from the water. Oh, it's such a cool Golden Geeks.
It's worthy for sure. There no moments that has like no that has
like no character moment to it, but it's just yeah the music cgi yeah,
but it's it's gorgeous and there's so many moments like that in this movie.
It's true. Man, he like from starting to finish, he did
this. The score is perfect. It is very reminiscent of Blade Runner,
which I love the soundtrack of that movie in the way it's just established this
atmosphere and has this kind of unsettling and epic nature to it. Just the
layers that he builds are insane. I really liked what you mentioned there with
kind of the sometimes when we have like those kind of audio cues, but
when we're in the Freeman zones or with the Freemen and kind of have these
kind of tribal chanting kind of like it's not in this first layer or second
layer or even the third layer. It was kind of like way in the
back and come in and out, but it kind of is established this vibe
almost like kind of Middle Eastern chanting. Like you it just makes you think
of like I don't know, Egypt or like something like that, or kind
of like it almost had like kind of Indian music in a way too.
So the way it kind of established those kind of audio cues when we're in
these like massive desert scapes, it was just amazing. The music on Geede
Prime Geeddy Prime, when that's the hearkening home world, that was just pure
Blade Runner like even the look how it was like, of course, it's
there's always nighttime on this planet because it's an evil. Like the way the
buildings look and the music honestly could have been taken from Blade Runner, like
it was so close. Yeah, I loved love that. Just the music
makes all the difference in this movie, and this movie would be maybe this
is hyperbole, but honestly would be like half as good without the soundtrack.
It is so important for this movie, and the fact that it's like just
killing it from starting to finish is just amazing. Yeah. I don't even
think it's that far an exaggeration. Honestly, it's it's it's so like like
I said before, like it just lifts it to such another tier that like
it's hard to imagine would have been like if the audio was done poorly,
because I truly think it's like the back bone and some of those scenes.
M hmm. Han Zimmer, huge, Han Zimmer fan. I know I
am a huge score boy, Like, oh I'm a scoreboy. Yeah,
up on the scoreboard. Hans Zimmer definitely is like top three, like as
of late, like for me, John Williams, Michael Gacchino, and then
you know Hans Zimmer, not necessarily in that order, just like they're legendary.
I mean, if you look at the portfolio Zimmer has, this is
another one that you can add in there that is just top tier, absolutely
incredible, and I honestly thought he was starting to simmer down after the I'm
gonna use the Dark Knight as an example. I just felt like he was
just kind of quietening down. But now that he's back and he's just popping
off, like, thank you so much, I'm so happy that he's just
getting in there. He's getting it, he's getting his Uh what is a
thing called? His thing? Dirty? The little wand the conductor one,
I don't know what it's like. What are those called? What do you
got telling? What is it called? I don't know what that was called.
He's got a phoenix hair in there, a phoenix feather conductor's baton.
I guess, yeah, that's the thing. I didn't I would not have
thought of bacon that I I guess you could use it as a weapon if
you want. The motivator. It's the conductor's motivator. When people are doing
terrible, throw it at them. Another another scene I wanted to shout out,
And this one isn't necessarily the music, although the music, of course
amazing is is when I wrote the guy's name down, so let me find
it real quick. But the herald change is the guy so when when the
ship comes down in Caladan and then all the people come out, and then
you kind of have this the guy who calls himself the Herald of Change,
and this guy just has I don't know if I've ever seen someone such beautiful
bone structure like this. This is like the template of like a beautiful person.
This guy that comes out and it's kind of got his minister outfit going
on. H kurtl is talking about maybe getting ad break in a second here
is let me finish this one point then we can do that. Of course,
gonna play. But there's like this scene where the Herald of the Chains
comes down. They're talking about stuff, and he's talking about all the different
like factions, and the camera like starts on the left and it's kind of
cruising over to the right, and I thought it was really cool the way
to wind up. And I was on the second watch because I whipped this
up on a streaming service yesterday to kind of watch a couple of the scenes
over, which really helped, because there is sometimes it was hard to hear
the dialogue because the music is so intense. But in this scene he's talking
about like the different factions and he's he's talking about like the Imperials, and
so you can kind of see these guys in the black suits, and then
he mentions like the Spacing Guild and it's like these guys in like these really
weird alien costumes and they have like staves. I want to hear more about
those guys if we do get a sequel. And then that's when he mentions
the Benijester it as well, and it shows that kind of that the Revenant
or the Reverend I think is what her name was. And then yeah,
and then that's when the camera like flips and shows Jessica's point of view or
it shows her face as she looks at the Reverend and it is just like
terrified. So I wanted to show that scene because I thought it was so
cool the way it kind of establishes these these factions by just having the camera
pan and then it's like panned over that certain person that he mentions. It
just all timed out with the dialogue. Was like, I'm sure they had
that written on a piece of paper with the whatever they call it when they
planning out all the scenes before the movies put together. I don't know my
stuff, but yeah, it was just so well orchestrated that I love that
scene. Yeah, I kind of forgot about that scene actually till you mentioned
it now, And yeah, it's really cool just to highlight the different factions,
like you mentioned. We got a question from Mattie. Oh, I'm
curious because we kind of mentioned this, but Zendaia as Shani. Maybe she
was kind of in the marketing a lot, and obviously she's a big name
right now, but you guys, we kind of talked about how she wasn't
really in it that much, like she was in it a lot with like
these kind of future scene seeing these these visions from from Paul. But do
you do you would you guys say you're disappointed that she wasn't in it as
that much. I don't think I'm disappointed with it. I guess I didn't
really have the expectation that she was going to be in it a ton,
But I yeah, I don't know what's your guys to take on that.
I think I'm a little disappointed because I just love Zendia and I wanted to
see more of her, and from the trailer usage, I was expecting more
of her. But in hindsight, I think it's so perfectly, like uh,
like they use her so perfectly, I think because it's like the main
vision that Paul's having, so then it's the main vision I was having when
I was thinking of the movie. It was Sandia so good little parallel there,
but also it's just, I mean, for someone that doesn't really understand
how important she is in the books, I think the way that she was
trinkled in there, sprinkled in there throughout the movie and throughout his visions,
it was just it was really really good, and like him leaving with her
at the end, and then the movie ended. That's where I was like,
oh, I just need to know more, like come on like that
they're like, cause I think like my favorite parts of the movie was like
near the end, like when he was kind of with like the with the
Iracus, like Native people, the Fremen, and also just I don't know
when they did like the trial by combat gets through that and I'm like,
oh my god, this is so exciting, Like I just want to know
more here, and then the movie ended, and then that's why I'm like,
oh yeah, I'm getting that, like Jack against the Kraken, you
know, at the end of Dead Men's chest, and I'm like, are
you kidding me? It is there so and like I wouldn't have that feeling
if the movie wasn't amazing, right, So it just goes to show like
how good of a movie this actually was. But yeah, it was Zendia's
character. In hindsight, I think it's perfect the way they did it,
and even in the marketing, like, I think it's so well done and
like strategically used in that sense. But as someone that just loves Zendia,
of course I want it more of her. Come on, come on,
of course I wanted her. Well, yeah, there's so much intrigue to
her character as well, Like obviously with Paul, we should maybe talk about
the visions a bit because that's like one of the things that makes her so
intriguing is like, is she an agent of chaos? I'm just gonna stab
him in the stomach as she as soon as she meets them. Or are
they gonna be hooking up? Are they gonna go on these adventures together?
We don't really know. We obviously don't get that answered here in part one,
but yeah, what what do you guys like, I'm curious what you
guys take on these visions were because I guess they're they're very much not that's
so Raven style vision where it's just the exact happen, but it's more about
like, Okay, how is that seeing gonna happen? But more it's like
almost like a doctor streaming kind of like possible world's thing that like these things
happen, but he has a Paul has to say based on his actions to
change these things or maybe he and then he'd also be guided in like a
corrupt way if he like sees one vision and he thinks, oh, I
want to be in that possible world, and then maybe he's weighs things in
a way that he shouldn't. So what did you what do you guys?
What was you guys to take on the visions? There you go first.
It's it's tricky because I feel like there's so many other factors from like other
medias out there that can influence my perspective of visions. Like you could look
at it, Yeah, he's experiencing these visions and they could sway how things
go. You can look at these visions and maybe he gets compromised, as
you said, don't like tries to change him or something along those lines.
At the same time, the gist I kind of got from this film and
it's general plot is Okay, the visions that are happening are concrete, and
it's just that's that's all, that's all there is. And yet we got
an inkling of Paul thinking, Hey, I can maybe change it, and
maybe that's something that's such upon later on. At this point, the only
thing I know and I can go off is Okay, these visions are concrete,
nothing can be done to change or alter them, and it's just the
flow of time. He's gotta go with that, deal with that. Yeah,
it is interesting because I felt like they weren't they weren't doven enough maybe
for my liking, and maybe that's a reason to just leave it kind of
vague, like like it's probably a big mystery like going forward in like the
next part and stuff like that, that he will eventually reveal it'll be a
big moment for the character and just what that means for in general, because
it seems like a really rare gift, like like the head of the Benajesrit
was like very interested in his dreams. He should even dropped the line like
do these always come true? And he said, like not exactly, and
like that one answer right there is kind of like how I felt on like
visions. I'm like okay, like like I don't know one way or the
other, like maybe they do come true, maybe they don't, and it
didn't. I don't know. And like, like I said, I think
the vagueness was strategically done. It was probably written that way in the book
that he doesn't really find out the meaning of it till later on, but
it made it like really suspenseful when he, like I say, in earlier,
like when he has the vision that Duncan, Idaho is gonna get mrked
and I'm like, no, I don't want Duncan, Idaho to get mrked.
I want to see more of a moa And then he doesn't, and
then it's like, okay, this is interesting. And then when he's having
the visions that are literally like like helping him in certain moments, whether it's
like someone that he's dialoguing with in the vision giving him like some sort of
motivational speech or or some sort of informations being related to him, and he's
taking that and he's like growing from it. That's a very interesting thing,
right then, and there, because these visions aren't just from the future,
they can be from the past, and he's taking information from these types of
visions that aren't even necessarily happening, and so I can see why that would
go to show he is this type of Messiah character that is just gaining knowledge
from so many different places and he's not even like physically there, like in
the moments. It's not like he went, oh, on this day this
year when I was twenty years old, I faced this person that taught me
this lesson. It's like, no, he could be just having visions about
so many different things and just absorbing so much information that way. So I
find them really interesting. Like Taylor mentioned, I just have this preconceived notion
of what visions are because of just other medias that I've seen, and this
is very different from what I'm used to. And yeah, I liked it.
Yeah, And it's interesting because it's almost like he's kind of losing himself
a bit too, because earlier on in the movie, it's always like in
place of where a dream would be, he's having these visions like in the
night and then he wakes up. But then later on he's just kind of
yeah, he's in like this dire situation where there's a sand where I'm about
to eat him, and then he's just like has this vision kind of uncontrollably.
So yeah, I wonder if like being on a racus changes it as
well, with the spice in the air and all that, if it is
part of what's affecting it, or if he's just becoming more powerful, or
if it's just he's evolving in some way. So there's a lot to find
out more in the future potentially. And like another thing I was going to
mention about the visions is like when I forget the doctor's name, but like
what when when they're suiting up the Duke Paul, it might have been Gurney
like one other character that we're wearing the suits. Unfortunately I forget what the
suits are called. But she she like goes to Paul, It's like,
Oh, you've worn one of these before, Like this technique that you have
is like really unique. He's like, No, never worn them before,
but like he must have just learned wearing it that way from his visions,
right, Like, And that was something that was unclear to me in the
early stages of the film because I'm like, Okay, there's probably some weird
thing where like he's lived another life and he's like been there before. Maybe
I don't know, I really didn't know where it was going. Yeah,
I guess that could be a vision thing. Well, I'm sure is.
But then there is also like multiple scenes where he's just straight up learning stuff
about the planet through like these kind of hologram things. True, Yeah,
he's kind of these kind of visual textbooks. So does polyochrons a holographic textbooks
that he's just kind of learning More so, like maybe that would be where
he would have learned that particular thing. But I think it actually does make
more sense that he had some vision of like, well, obviously we've seen
in these visions that he's worn these suits and that he's been cruising around doing
some battles and stuff. I mean, maybe not at that point. It's
hard to remember exactly where each vision happens off the top of my head,
but yeah, I feel like it's it could be that, but it also
could be that, Yeah, he watched a video on it, not a
YouTube video because there's no computers, but a textbook holgram video. Many sayings.
That's the question, do they reveal the Emperor wiz or is it supposed
to be a baron. I don't it's not supposed to be the baron,
I would say it's not. Yeah, those are different. Those are different
factions, the Imperials and the Emperor. Well, actually the Emperor, the
Imperials, and the Hearkening are all different factions, right, Like the Imperials
are kind of employed by the Emperor, but they're kind of a different faction
in of themselves, is the way I took it. Like they're almost just
like the Imperials are just like Mrks for hire that are kind of under the
Emperor's fingertips. Like the people. Yeah, yeah, that creepy cult planet.
Everything's creepy and culty. Yeah, I had John troops, Yeah,
troopers. I had one question for you guys. Like I said, I
saw the movie on Friday night, and then I loaded up on streaming service
yesterday and watched a couple of scenes again, and even watching this scene a
couple of times, I was still a little bit confused. So there's the
there's the moment where Paul and Jessica join up with the Freemen and they kind
of have this fight scene, and then Jessica kind of bests Javier Bardem's character
that I can't remember the name of off the top of my head. And
then Paul goes up on the hill and then so I'm a little bit coccused
but confused about the follow fallout here. So there's one of the people part
of the Freeman tribe here, He's like, okay, you because the way
I took it the dialogue, it made it seem like he was talking to
Javier Bardem's character and he's saying, Hey, you lost this fight against this
against Jessica, So I'm like challenging you for your spot. But then he's
like challenging Jessica. But then Jessica has a champion that's appointed, and I
didn't know what the champion was about, Like is that because she's a woman?
Is it because she's a bended gesturate? I couldn't really understand that part,
Like why wouldn't he just challenge Jessica straight up? Why is there this
champion thing? Would everyone have a champion? Yeah, he's challenging the leader
because the leader lost to Jessica. But then he's fighting Jessica. So can
you guys clear this up for me? Because this is the one thing in
the movie that I'm like, I don't know what's going on here. I
was very confused. Yeah, it's funny. I haven't put too much thought
into like why Heavy or Baradam's character wasn't just fighting the other guy, right,
the whole champion thing. I feel like it's it definitely could be the
Benegestrate thing. That's probably a big reason because you got to imagine even like
the Freeman know about what the bened jest right, Like, it seems like
they just have such a presence like throughout the galaxy or whatever the hell they
are. Again, it could just be I mean we saw that in the
Game of Thrones, right like when like Tirian is like battled or trial of
combat and it's like, hey, well I'm allowed to have a champion.
Maybe that's just like it's just that's the way it is. Anytime there's a
trivelic comment, you can always just get a champion if someone agrees. And
you got to imagine with how powerful Jessica is, I think Paul still has
so much more training in hand in hand in combat, Like that's just so
much more about about his curriculum. So you're not allowed to use the voice
either because she could have easily destroyed that guy with the voice. Yeah,
that's a good question, just like stab yourself. And but if it's like
a matter of life and death, like I don't I don't know if she
would care if it's banned. No, Yeah, and that's it's a good
question because I I kind of like I didn't have an issue with the whole
champion thing. It was more so And again I wasn't thinking about this tell
right now. It's like, why was that the person that they were fighting?
I I kind of missed that point, Taylor, did you did you
catch that? I think it's just up to interpretation. I didn't really look
into it too much. Just probably the Game of Thrones wrote that you mentioned
probably makes the most sense to me. But like, why would he be
fighting, Like why wouldn't he be fighting have yarbard Am? Because if he's
fighting for like the leader of the well because he wasn't worthy, right,
he got best at so he's still the leader. But I don't think he
can represent himself. I think he needs to have a championship fight for it.
I guess it was that this guy, this freeman guy didn't want them
to join their seek, I suppose is what it is. And even then
they talk about there's like this one for one thing that if someone joins someone
else has to die or something along those lines. Then that doesn't even really
make sense because this one guy died and then Jessica and Paul both joined,
so it's like, well, I was kind of a two for one.
I got a little two bird with one stone there. So so yeah,
I think this that's kind of the one thing that I'm confused by in this
movie, which is pretty good considering there's so much nomenclature and so much like
jargon going on that I feel like, well, that's the only thing I
don't fully understand. I think that's a that's a pretty good ratio. But
I'll have to I'll have to hit up the internet. Hopefully there's some rentick
question and where some guys like someone explained this scene and then I can kind
of just vicariously learn. Yeah, I mean it could be that, like
he just doesn't want to kill one of his own, so like if he
was bested by Jessica, then technically Jessica's more powerful than have yarbard Am,
so then he's gonna fight Jessica. If he beats Jessica, then he's the
narrator of the Zeach and then they don't have to kill each other. Yeah,
have a lot of huge Yeah, absolutely, one one last minor question
for me. Then I just have a couple of last notes. But we
see this scene a couple of time where there's like a giant donut kind of
in the atmosphere around this I don't know if it's just Aracus or if I
can't recall of Kaliden have if we saw that planet, but it's like a
giant donut, and I was curious, like what's going on there? Like
I don't know if it was like that's where like light speed, like that's
essentially like a little barrier that you would game for and then it would shoot
you there, or if you have to go through that so that you're like
kind of identified as coming to this planet as like a border kind of thing.
I don't think it's ever explained. It also just looked cool, this
giant donut in the sky. But what do you guys think is going on
with those donuts? Yeah? Like I at first I thought it was like
the ships of the Hearken or something like that's like the mothership, and then
they're sending down more of their troops. Could have been one of like the
imperial type things, and that's where like the cyber the cybercar whatever the fuck
they're called, like they're coming from. But it seemed like multiple times like
ships were coming from that zone, so it easily could be like a gateway.
And then that's where they're kind of like that's where you would insert the
spice as a resource and then you go there then you can do like multi
dimensional travel or whatever whatever the travel is in there. Yeah no, I
I I agree with you. I think it looks so fucking cool of just
like up in the sky you just see this giant like space type station.
It's no Moon space station. But yeah, no I it I missed like
specifically who owned that or I don't think they ever mentioned it. I was
just curious. I just had a couple of last little notes here, so
I mentioned the how immersive I felt this movie was, and we've kind of
covered that. It's with the cinematography, it's with the world building, it's
with the sound. But another couple little things I liked was there's no opening
credits for this movie. Like it says Dune Part one, but there's no
directed by starring over the course of like five minutes that a lot of movies
have. And so I really like that because I feel like it kind of
puts you in the world. You don't see these people as actors. You
just kind of are from this second the movie starts, you're kind of immersed
in this world and it's like this fully escapist sci fi world rather than being
this Hollywood movie. So I really like that. Then I also really like
that there isn't, like so many times in this movie there's like some jump
of time, where in most movies it would say like, you know,
six weeks later, four months later, two years later. And I feel
like there's probably three or four points in this movie where they could have done
that, But I like that they didn't because it one, it just makes
it feel a bit more immersive for some reason. But I also like that
it's kind of up for interpretation because for the most part, it doesn't really
matter if it's specifically six weeks or specifically you know, one week. It
seems like the story beats in the places we are when we go from these
kind of cuts. Never seems to be jarring, and I liked that.
I think maybe the one that I was that maybe could have been helpful to
the story is like, I'm curious how soon after the treaties come to Oracus
that the war starts and that they start turning their backs on it, because
like I'm guessing that pretty shortly after they moved this planet is when the Duke
would want to go into one of those helicopters and go check out like the
spice refiners. But maybe that takes a couple of weeks after they move there.
Maybe it's like a month or two, or maybe things are good for
a few months, but then like the equipment starts to break, things are
going downhill, and that's when he wants to go see that stuff. Either
way, I liked that they didn't have that. I like that they didn't
have the opening credits. I like that it didn't these time jumps. Really,
the only like text we get on screen that's kind of I don't know,
really, the only text we get on screen that isn't in the world
is doing Part one and like the names of the planets when we go to
like Caladan, world of the Trade's and things like that. So I liked
those two little details. Yeah, I don't think the like the the time
jumps like were necessary to have on there, whether it was like two months,
five years, whatever the hell it was. So I liked the usage
of it, just like the some of the pacing things, whether it was
like them in the in the council chambers, like kind of going over what
they have to do to like get Aracus running. They like mentioned like one
thing and then all of a sudden they're like at like the silo. I
felt like a lot of that, like jumping around in the beginning stages was
just a little rush for me. And in that moment, that's where I
was like, Okay, they're going to wrap up the entire story in here,
so I totally understand why they're just glossing over that. But then like
it just it didn't. It wasn't the case like it is supposed to be
multiple movies. So then I was thinking back to that and having a little
bitterness in those moments, but nothing too major you're mentioning, like the no
credits at the beginning. I absolutely loved how the very first like thing in
this movie, it was just like that one little line and it was like
dreams are memories from the deep or something like that, and then it goes
to like the logo of like I don't even know who made this film,
but like goes to like the like the company, and then like next shot,
and then like Dune. I believe it goes there, and then it
goes into like Zendia narrating about like Oracus. But just that very very first
thing. It's so easy to forget about that too, like later on the
film of and again I think I paraphrased that. I don't think I got
it specifically, but like some significance to dreams, and it's such an important
thing throughout the movie, is like Paul and his visions and these dreams and
if they are just dreams or if they are actually visions. And it was
just such a such a really good line, like right right right at the
very beginning of the movie. And it's I guarantee you so many people would
have like forgotten about that moment like later on the film, but I,
I don't know, I love that that because I was not expecting that.
I'm like sitting down with popcorn, I'm like, hey, is this are
we no more trailers? Or is it gonna get like the logo movie started
just like dreams are from our memories from the deep, and I'm like,
whoa, holy shit, this is happening right now. And then it goes
to like the again whatever the logo is of the movie makers. But it
was just really cool to have that before, even like the company's logo.
So definitely that was all my notes. Boys just quickly shout out some scenes
unless Taylor, you had anything else you want to mention. So the scene
when they're going into like the sandstorm and uh, Paul has like another vision
there of like just tripping out there, and then he eventually just takes his
hands like off the wheel and then like they're just like so at mercy to
the storm. In that scene, I just thought it was so intense,
especially like with the audio of like as as if you're like in the ship
and it's just so loud of like the sand storm all around you. It
was just a really intense scene. I liked when they came out of that,
it was pretty stressful and like their wings weren't opening. And then another
scene I'd mentioned would be like when they're trapped like in the sand I love
that little like iglu thing that they have. I forget the specific like item
that they used to like get through the sand. I believe Duncan, Idaho
gave it to him, but I forget the name of it. It was
just a really cool gadget. I loved all the gadgets and stuff that they
showed out in here, Dylan, you mentioned like the compass. I just
I loved all the gag I'm a huge fan of gadgets, talk about them
a lot in the James vond retro. It was just really cool to see
more of like the tools and stuff that they used in this world. And
again it's just more world building, right like, so I just I loved
all that stuff, but that scene in particular because they were they're in there
for a while and you get to see like around them, it seems like
they're harvesting like their excess moisture. Just all the little details it just made
it look really really fun and cool. And yeah, I think that's all
the notes I have. So nice? Or are you reading this bad Boy
well you know it? Would you recommend it to people? Oh? Absolutely,
I think absolutely amazing. If you are living in a place where it
is safe to go to the theater, then I think you should do that.
I feel like this is definitely worth seeing in the theater. I think
it's worth it with the three D. I mean, obviously I didn't watch
it without well, I guess I had watch the bit of the streaming as
well, and that was without three D. It was much worse experience.
You know. Yeah, I definitely go see this movie. Go seeing the
theater. I mean you would probably this recommendation would have been better upfront,
but yeah, this movie is amazing. I think I'll come back to this
movie, like I don't know, at least once a year. I'll come
back and check out this movie, and hopefully we do get a sequel someday.
If not, I'll go check out that series, and who knows.
I think if if they announced, I'm gonna wait till they announce, like,
okay, we are making a part two, or okay, now we're
not making a part two. If they aren't, then I think at that
point I'll go check out the books. But if not, then I think
I'll just wait for the next movie. But I really hope we do get
more. I love this is my favorite movie I've seen in a really long
time, really special and I'm really glad I saw it in the theater.
I felt like that was just this is gonna be one of the most memorable
like theater experiences I think for me ever. And it was very much a
cinematic experience that would have been so much worse if I watched it on my
home TV. And you know, that's kind of been a bummer too,
Like seeing like watching Saw on my computer, it doesn't have the same feel
as going to a theater and seeing this epic Hans Zimmer score through like these
speakers that are bigger than my whole house. You know, it's it's that
whole experience. And I'm so glad I saw this movie. It was really
fun doing the review with you guys, and uh yeah, everyone go watch
this movie. I'm probably gonna go watch it again like tomorrow because I just
love it. But no number. For me, this is the best movie
ever. There you go, that's my review. Best movie ever, high
praise. Yeah, Taylor Field, what do you think of the movie?
It's a ten ten, I mean no denying it. The score is absolutely
killed. The development, the houses, characters, everything just it's so great.
And then the scenery fan freakantastic, the clash of just how it embodies
again futuristic sci fi with a little bit of like medieval esque elements in there.
It's just such a great combination of elements and I love it ten times
over. I'm definitely gonna be rewatching this. I definitely hoping and praying every
night against that sequel. I need it so badly. If it doesn't,
I'll settle for just this. But I hope that they continue on the storyline,
because this movie is top tier. You need to watch it. If
you haven't watched it and you've gone through this whole review, then brutal,
but go watch it. I think so it was boring, but yeah,
brutal freak Yeah. I think I'm gonna give this one a nine and a
half out of ten. I can't give it a full ten just because of
the way it left me feeling. I'm like, are you kidding me?
I need to know more. This'll be probably one of those scores that I
could see like changing in the future one if I never get more, I
could see it dropping a little bit, just because it left a lot of
things open, and I don't think I can really give too much, Like
I can't blame this movie for that reason, you know, because like if
we had more, this movie is like just stellar ten out of ten because
the things that it hinted to really really good. But if I could never
get more, I'll just I'll be really really sad about it, because I
truly think that this movie in this series could be something very special. It
could be like I was mentioning, like almost like a Lord of the Rings
type thing where it's just introducing so many new concepts to like these this sci
fi genre. Just so like there's just such great world billion in this and
I just want to know so much more. And yeah, I I need
to get more. Everybody go buy this movie, buy three tickets if you
have to, just support it. I need to get more. And yeah,
it was. It was just phenomenal. I praise the Hans Zimmer praised
all the like the actors. It was just top tier and like this,
like the visuals and the Ciagi in this, I'm like I'm like looking for
like, Okay, where's the one bad spot that looks that makes the Siegi
look like not that good? It was so spectacular. I'm like, man,
Denny was like finance real ships to shoot this because it looks like real
life. It looks so yeah. Yeah, just the scale of the ships
when they would have like the close ups in them. It's just like the
man, this is like, this is sci fi and I'm I'm loving it.
I'm loving the technologies that we have these days just make it seem so
goddamn real. Yeah, no, it was. It was. It was
phenomenal experience. But I think I can't quite give it a full ten because
of just certain pacing issues I had in the beginning, and just answers I
wanted there, questions I wanted answered. So for that reason, yeah,
nine and a half out of ten. There, it is cool. That's
the end of our review. That's part one review. They had part one
review. Tune in next time for the part too to be determined on that.
That was fun, though, fun fun discussing the movie. Guys,
thanks for joining. I guess I'll just lead us off. We we already
posted all of our social media links and everything like that. Tune in next
time, Bye bye later. Oh, he didn't even end the broadcast.
He just got out, okay, heart out, I'm gonna end the broadcast. Oh for