WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.080 Today was kind of an interesting day legally in the Joe Biden, why are 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:13.720 we not charging him with crimes for misplacing classified documents situation, because the Special 3 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:22.800 Council released the transcripts of the interview that they had with President Biden on October 4 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:29.719 eighth and October ninth of last year, twenty twenty three, and this was 5 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:35.479 something that Republicans were kind of clamoring for. They wanted to see the exact 6 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:42.840 transcript because basically, the Special Council said, well, look, we're deciding 7 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.679 we're not going to charge President Biden for a couple of reasons, among which 8 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:52.960 his memory is terrible, and Republicans basically said, well, we want to 9 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:56.920 see the transcript of this. We want to see if this decision to charge 10 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:03.240 or not to charge was fair or not. So the transcript's been released, 11 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:11.239 and in this interview, you've got Biden there, you've got his attorneys there 12 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:19.879 with him, and clearly Biden is really struggling with dates. It's pretty obvious 13 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:26.760 he's struggling with dates. So he was struggling to figure out when it was 14 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.040 that he announced he was running for president. That was in twenty nineteen. 15 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.120 He was he asked the question if it was twenty thirteen. He was talking 16 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:41.480 about the year twenty thirteen, and then he asks when did I stop being 17 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:47.879 vice president? And the math here is not that hard. He started being 18 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.519 he was elected vice president in two thousand and eight. He started being vice 19 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:56.760 president in two thousand and nine. He remained vice president until January of twenty 20 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:02.879 seventeen. He was alone elected president in twenty twenty. He started serving as 21 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:10.000 president in twenty twenty one. The timeline is not that complicated. He asked 22 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:16.080 the question in two thousand and nine, am I still vice president? Still? 23 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:21.000 Well, you just started being vice president in two thousand and nine. 24 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.319 He then asked the question, well, so did Trump get elected in November 25 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:30.000 of twenty seventeen, which is like, no, Trump didn't get elected in 26 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:35.319 November of twenty seventeen. Trump got elected in November of twenty sixteen. No 27 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:42.319 one gets elected in an odd number year. Everyone knows that. So here's 28 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:51.000 Biden clearly like really struggling with dates, and the most significant being trying to 29 00:02:51.039 --> 00:03:00.400 recall the date when his son Bo died. So Biden is talking about stuff 30 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:07.879 that was going on in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. So it's after he 31 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:12.599 left the vice presidency, before he ran for president. At this time, 32 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.479 he's just a private citizen. He's talking about those years. And Biden says, 33 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:20.520 remember, and this is a quote from the transcript, Remember in this 34 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:25.560 timeframe, he's talking about twenty seventeen and eighteen. Remember, in this timeframe, 35 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:31.159 my son is either being deployed or is dying. And then he adds, 36 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:37.280 and so what was happening though, what month did Bo die? Oh? 37 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:42.680 God, May thirtieth. Then someone in the room with him, I 38 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.919 think is one of his lawyers cuts in and clarifies, No, he died 39 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:53.560 in twenty fifteen. So Biden's off by like two or three years here. 40 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.840 He's talking about stuff that happened after he was vice president, and he thought 41 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.120 for some reason that that was when Bo died. No, Bo didn't die 42 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:05.039 then. He died like two or three years earlier, in twenty fifteen. 43 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:13.120 So he's got a totally off frame of reference. Not just like it's not 44 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:16.519 a thing of saying, you know, Bo died in twenty fourteen when I 45 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.720 was vice president. Will No, it's extra twenty fifteen, Like it wasn't 46 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:25.439 even something like that. He's going on about this is the stuff that was 47 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:29.079 happening at this time in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and he's going on 48 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:31.279 and on and on about it and saying that that's when Bo was deployed or 49 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:35.240 sick, and it's not. It was. He's off, He's way off. 50 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:46.240 Now the Democrat spin on this is pretty aggressive, But the transcript is 51 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.360 the transcript, like, it's not. There's nothing much you could do one 52 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:57.000 of the other things that happened that a lot of people predicted. So when 53 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:02.439 Robert Herr's Special Council report was least a couple of weeks ago, where it 54 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:09.160 talked about her saying I'm not going to charge President Biden because his memory is 55 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:14.759 so faulty he couldn't even remember when his son Bo died, Biden responded to 56 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:19.279 it angrily, saying, how dare he ask me that question? How dare 57 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:25.480 he even bring that up? And a lot of people at the time, 58 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:31.399 not having seen the transcript, were guessing, I bet her I bet the 59 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:40.360 Special counsel who is here concerned with is President Biden unlawfully retaining classified documents? 60 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:45.240 I'll bet anything that the Special Counsel was not the one who brought it up. 61 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:49.560 I'll bet anything because Biden brings up his own son's death. Biden does 62 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:59.319 that all the time, and a lot of people predicted I bet that Robert 63 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:04.639 her did not raise the issue of his son Bo. I bet Biden raised 64 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:13.199 it during this interview. And indeed, that is precisely what happened. Biden 65 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.600 was the one who raised the issue of his son Bo, and then was 66 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:20.800 struggling after he raised the issue. He was struggling on his own to figure 67 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:30.000 out when Bo died and was off by several years, including like different points 68 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:33.279 in his life. Bo died while he was vice president. He was talking 69 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:38.920 about this timeframe, critically important timeframe in this discussion, by the way, 70 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:48.759 when he was not vice president anymore, he was out of office. Now 71 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.639 what does this all mean? How is it significant? How is it not 72 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:57.519 significant? The problem for Biden is that he's in a little bit of a 73 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:03.199 damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If he tries to 74 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.199 claim no, no, no, I'm sharp as attack, My memory is 75 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:11.800 fine. They're cherry picking these quotes from this interview, this deposition, this 76 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.519 interview. It wasn't a deposition. I think I think it was just an 77 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:20.000 interview. They're cherry picking the quotes from here in order to, you know, 78 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:24.720 in order to attack me. But I've my memory's sharp as attack. 79 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:30.600 I'm I'm totally fine. Well. One of the main reasons why Robert Hurr 80 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:39.079 decided not to bring charges against President Biden at that time is quite frankly, 81 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:46.439 because President Biden, he thought, had too faulty of a memory. He 82 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:51.959 thought that a jury wouldn't convict Biden of having the necessary mental state, that 83 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:56.959 the jury would not convict an eighty something year old defendant, which is how 84 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:01.759 old Biden would be after the presidency. He thought that no jury would convict 85 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:09.000 President Biden because his memory was so faulty that the jury could would likely conclude 86 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:18.160 that Biden didn't know what he was doing. That's the only reason, according 87 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.399 That's like the main reason, according to Robert Herr, why he's not charging 88 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:28.040 Biden or not recommending a charge against Biden. There are other reasons not to 89 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.159 charge Biden. I think one of the chief reasons being Department of Justice policy 90 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:39.240 that you don't charge a president while he's in office. But her is basically 91 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.679 saying like, no, I wouldn't charge him in spite of that you know, 92 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.240 outside of that circumstance, we don't think he would be charged because a 93 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.720 jury wouldn't be able to convict him because his memory is so faulty. So 94 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:58.799 on the one Biden has to choose, he's either sharp as attack, but 95 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:07.159 then he should be found guilty for squirrelling away national security documents that he knows 96 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:16.720 or should know that he's not supposed to keep. Or his memory is so 97 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.919 bad that he can't be found guilty of scrolling away the documents. But he 98 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:24.519 probably shouldn't be president for four more years. And that's the rub, that's 99 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:31.240 where he is. He is stuck between these two options. He has to 100 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:37.759 pick one, and he's trying to sort of He and his campaign people, 101 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:45.159 his spin doctors are trying to bulldoze their way through to sort of have their 102 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.919 cake and eat it too. They're trying to make this argument that no, 103 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:54.159 no, no, Robert Hurr was totally wrong and inappropriate even to raise this, 104 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.960 and Biden's memory is great, and see her decline to charge him, 105 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:03.919 which also means that Biden he did nothing wrong, like he clearly did a 106 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:11.080 lot of stuff wrong. Now I'm of the opinion, I'm of the opinion 107 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:16.320 that both Biden has terrible memory, and I think he probably should be prosecuted. 108 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.200 I think the fact that he has poor memory, which is clear, 109 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.360 I don't know that his memory was that poor at the times that he was 110 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:33.159 stealing classified security material and keeping it for years and years. Because he was 111 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:39.840 stealing stuff and keeping it for decades when he wasn't supposed to. He was 112 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:46.600 stealing documents while he was in the Senate, and I'm saying that word stealing. 113 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:54.279 The way that senators look at classified documents is they go to a class. 114 00:10:54.320 --> 00:11:01.320 They go to a secure room in a federal government owned bills building that 115 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:09.320 gets guarded and protected by the relevant intelligence and security officials. The documents are 116 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:15.840 put there for members of Congress to review. The members of Congress go in, 117 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.279 they review the documents, they leave. They don't take the documents with 118 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:28.399 them. How are those documents in Joe Biden's house? Not a lot of 119 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:35.480 good answers other than either he stole it, or he had someone steal it 120 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:45.039 from him, or he received a stolen document. Furthermore, even the stuff 121 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:50.360 that he had is that the classified documents he was receiving as vice president, 122 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.919 he retained them and I think he knew that he was retaining them. Like 123 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.440 I remember I had this. I know I've talked about this on the show, 124 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.720 but I had thisscussion with my dad. My dad was sort of taking 125 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.759 the view of like, well, would Biden really know like all the stuff 126 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:11.200 that's in his boxes, like after he leaves being vice president. Like so 127 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.759 it's that four year stretch from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one, Joe Biden 128 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.639 is just John Q. Citizen at this point, he's not the vice president, 129 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.879 his vice presidency is over, he hasn't yet run for president. And 130 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.440 my dad was sort of like, well, is that I don't know. 131 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.720 Maybe people do have boxes of stuff shuffled around all the time. And my 132 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:35.919 response to my dad was, I think that's a reasonable question, but I 133 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:41.679 don't think it's so with Biden. Because the thing Biden was doing with his 134 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.679 ghost writer who's helping him write this autobiography he was working on in twenty seventeen, 135 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:54.000 which is discussed in the which you know, records of that audio recordings 136 00:12:54.039 --> 00:13:01.600 of Biden's discussion with his sort of ghost rider who helped him write his autobiography 137 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:11.039 show that Biden had classified documents specifically about Afghanistan. He said, I got 138 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:15.440 the Afghanistan stuff. That's one of the things that was on that of that 139 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:20.519 audio transcript of Biden talking with his ghost writer back in twenty seventeen. A 140 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:26.799 lot of the stuff that was found in Biden's house were his as vice president 141 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:35.639 notes that he was generating based off of his documents that he had. So 142 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:41.440 it was classified documents that he had received about Afghanistan and notes that he himself 143 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.519 was taking. And by the way, when the vice president gets classified documents 144 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.559 about Afghanistan and starts writing his own notes on a legal pad, the stuff 145 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.480 on the legal pad is also highly classified. He can't just squirrel that away 146 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.600 in his pocket and hold on to it forever. Okay, that stuff has 147 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:00.679 sensitive material on it. It can't just go to his house and just sit 148 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:07.279 in his garage after he's done being vice president. And Biden was specifically squirreling 149 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.799 away all this stuff about Afghanistan. Why In two thousand and nine, Biden 150 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:18.279 was really opposed to President Obama doing a big troop surge in Afghanistan. Biden 151 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.039 wanted to get out of Afghanistan. He thought Afghanistan would become a quagmire. 152 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:28.279 He just loves that Vietnam terminology his only frame of reference. He wanted to 153 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:33.559 develop this record that he was the guy who was right within the Obama administration. 154 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:39.840 He was the guy, and he was trying to develop this kind of 155 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:46.360 historical narrative for himself. So it wasn't just his aids through some stuff in 156 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:50.919 a box. Biden was clearly squirreling away a lot of this Afghanistan stuff. 157 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:58.440 All right, when we return, Is it really so inappropriate that Robert Hurr 158 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.120 was talking about Biden's mental lif lapses as Democrats are arguing, I'm going to 159 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.159 say, no, it's not inappropriate, and I'll explain that. Why that's 160 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:11.159 next on the John Girardi Show. Why did the Special Counsel Robert Hurr go 161 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:16.799 into such detail about Biden's memory as the reason not to prosecute him. We 162 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.679 now have the transcript of HER's interview with Biden, and we can see Biden 163 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.000 was forgetting things left right and center. He was way off on when his 164 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:31.320 son bo died, totally wrong frame of reference. Biden was talking about stuff 165 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.840 that was happening in the years after he was done being vice president, and 166 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.399 he was trying to explain to her that, you know, in this time, 167 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.840 Bo was really sick or dying, And no, that's not when Bo 168 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.600 was sick and dying. Bo was sick and dying several years earlier, in 169 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:50.480 twenty fifteen while Biden was vice president. So Biden was trying to use Bo's 170 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.960 death, you know, trying to use that to contextualize why he had documents 171 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:03.120 during twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen when he wasn't supposed to have them. Now, 172 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.720 why is her noting all this stuff? A lot of the Democrats are 173 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:15.320 trying to argue, Well, Robert Herr, who was a Trump appointed US 174 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:23.159 attorney whom Merrick Garland himself selected to be the special counsel to investigate Biden for 175 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:27.000 the unlawful retention of documents. So what's a special counsel? When the Department 176 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:33.399 of Justice has an internal conflict of interest that it can't credibly investigate something, 177 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:38.000 the Attorney General can appoint somebody from the outside to serve as a special counsel. 178 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:44.039 Special counsel has the authority to investigate and bring charges if necessary. The 179 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:48.440 special counsel then has the task of providing the Attorney General when he's he or 180 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.159 she is done with his or her investigation in charging or whatever it is, 181 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:59.480 provides the attorney general with a report summarizing their activity, what they did, 182 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:00.840 what they didn't do, what they charged, what they didn't charge, why 183 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.960 they charged, why they didn't charge, and then, practically speaking, the 184 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:08.640 Attorney General has to release it. Politically speaking, the Attorney General just can't 185 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:15.680 get away with not releasing it. So Robert Hurr did that. He investigated 186 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.920 Biden's retention of these documents, and by the way, her was sort of 187 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:25.039 universally liked prior to the release of his report. Democrats liked him. They 188 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.519 thought he was a fairly you know, he was a fairly He was not 189 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:36.119 a maga hat wearing, fire breathing Trump Republican by any stretch. He was 190 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:41.400 a right leaning guy, but was kind of respected across the board as someone 191 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:47.519 who throws balls and who calls balls and strikes. Garland picked him. Let's 192 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.720 remember that he didn't just fall from the sky Merrick. Garland picked him, 193 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:56.799 and Garland probably wanted to pick someone who would credibly be thought of as not 194 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:03.119 just being like a Biden tody to investigate Biden. You wanted someone whose decisions 195 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:10.039 would have some credibility to it, so no one ever impeached HER's character prior 196 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:15.640 to this point. Her release is this report. And this is the weird 197 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.039 thing about a special council. A special counsel has to give out this report. 198 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:23.039 And part of the special counsel's report is to explain, if you don't 199 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:27.880 charge somebody, why aren't you charging him? And that's not something that most 200 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:34.039 prosecutors do. All right, If Lisa Smith Camp is investigating me for crimes 201 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:38.880 or something and she decides not to charge me, she doesn't release to the 202 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:45.960 public a report saying well, I thought about charging John Girardi with X, 203 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:49.279 Y, and Z, but I decided not to because of this, this 204 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.960 and this. She doesn't do that. She just doesn't charge me, and 205 00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:00.559 then she just moves on. But the special counsel has to explain why he 206 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:08.119 or she didn't bring charges, And so the stuff that her brings up is 207 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:14.519 the kind of thing that a prosecutor would discuss in deciding whether or not they're 208 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:18.559 going to charge someone. Hey, is this person gonna be competent to stand 209 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.240 trial? Is a jury ever gonna convict this person? This person can't remember 210 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.839 what you're their son? Died. Is a jury really gonna believe that this 211 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:33.160 person willingly deliberately stole these documents retain them? Are we really credibly think we 212 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.519 can get a jury to convict this man beyond a reasonable doubt. Also, 213 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:41.359 we can't can't really bring charges against this guy until he's done being president, 214 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.079 which at which time he's going to be eighty something, he'll be even older, 215 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:49.359 even more frail. Do we really think a jury's going to convict this 216 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:56.920 guy. That's the kind of discussion that prosecutors have with each other trying to 217 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.960 figure out, well, can we get a conviction on this guy? And 218 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:07.960 aspects of the possible defendant's personality, the suspects personality, their mental state, 219 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:14.160 all of that comes into play. So her is just in this awkward position 220 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.240 of having those kinds of deliberations, which usually just happened behind closed doors in 221 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.599 a prosecutor's office. He has to, by law because of his position, 222 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:29.039 he has to broadcast that to the whole country. So Democrats yelling at scream 223 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:32.359 at Robert Hurst, just a political hack? How dary you know what a 224 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:33.839 political hack would have done? He probably would have charged Biden, is what 225 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.359 a political hack would it have done. He would have ignored the DJ guidance 226 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:42.480 that you're not supposed to charge a president during his presidency, or he would 227 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.440 have said President Biden should be charged, but he's president, so I'm not 228 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:49.000 going to charge him right now. That's what a political hack would have done. 229 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.240 Heck, I think that's what I would have done. I think I 230 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.960 would be convinced by the argument of yes, his memory is poor, but 231 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:03.119 he knew what he was doing. He was clearly grossly negligent with his handling 232 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.440 of these documents. He was trying to squirrel away all this stuff about Afghanistan 233 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.440 so he could brag about how smart he was. Not to support the Afghanistan 234 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:17.599 troop surge in two thousand and nine because he wanted to create this historical record 235 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:21.440 for himself when he was about himself when he was writing his autobiography in twenty 236 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:26.519 seventeen. I think there's plenty of reason to charge Biden. Her was far 237 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:37.200 kinder, milder, maybe too soft than I would have been. So for 238 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.279 Democrats, Oh, Robert Hurt, it was so unprofessional of him. How 239 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.000 dare he even raise it? He has to raise it, He has to 240 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.799 tell why he's not charging this man. Why he's not recommending charging this man. 241 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:56.039 He has to explain why, by law, he has to give this 242 00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:03.200 report to the Attorney General. It's not his fault that the president raises the 243 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.519 issue of his son's death and wildly is off about when his son died. 244 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:15.720 So it's pretty interesting to actually see the transcript because again, I just to 245 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:22.319 make this point by nest to pick, he's either too mentally frail to remember 246 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.799 when his son died and therefore shouldn't be prosecuted, but then also probably shouldn't 247 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:33.759 be president, or he's still razor sharp sharp as a tackle joe, but 248 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.519 if he is, then he should probably be prosecuted for unlawfully retaining a bunch 249 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:44.319 of classified documents. When we return, we're going to talk about two horrible 250 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.559 bills in front of the California legislature having to do with euthanasia, yes, 251 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:53.480 actual euthanasia, as well as turning every er in California possibly into an abortion 252 00:22:53.720 --> 00:23:00.279 clinic. That's next on the John Girardi Show. There hasn't been a lot 253 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:04.960 of activity on this issue for a little while, though I could tell that 254 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.880 there was some groundwork being laid for it. I think maybe efforts to expand 255 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:15.359 physician assisted suicide in California were a little bit on hold because of the pandemic 256 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:21.720 and stuff like that. But I am here to ring the bell, the 257 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.440 ring the alarm bell for all of you that not just physician assisted suicide, 258 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:34.839 but actual euthanasia might be coming to the state of California soon as in this 259 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:40.480 year. Now, before I get into it, I want to define my 260 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:45.559 terms. California right now has legalized physician assisted suicide, and I think we 261 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.680 need to define our terms between assisted suicide and euthanasia. Right So what are 262 00:23:49.720 --> 00:24:00.240 the They're slightly different things. Assisted suicide means a doctor helps you to kill 263 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:11.160 yourself under various kinds of conditions. You present yourself to doctors. Doctors do 264 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:18.079 some kind of pro form a check which isn't really a very significant check or 265 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.519 really significant limitation to see that you're mentally competent. You have to be an 266 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:30.680 adult, and the doctor gives you a prescription for deadly life ending drugs. 267 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.000 Okay, you take the drug yourself, though it's a pill that you ingest. 268 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:45.680 They just give you the prescription. Euthanasia means that the doctor or some 269 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:51.920 other medical professional is the actual one killing you. Is the actual one administering 270 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:59.559 the drug to you. Both are bad. I think euthanasia is worse. 271 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.079 It's worse because, for one thing, you're fundamentally changing the nature of the 272 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:11.440 relationship between doctor and patient. And you've now the only thing that's providing some 273 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.200 kind of dividing line between a patient and a doctor killing the patient is the 274 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:23.799 patient's quote consent. But and we've seen this in countries that have legalized assistant 275 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:30.400 suicide and then euthanasia, what does consent mean? Consent is not necessarily the 276 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:38.960 strong brick wall dividing lawful euthanasia and unlawful murder that a lot of people like 277 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.559 to pretend it is okay. What if I tell you I don't want to 278 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:48.880 live with Alzheimer's back when I'm lucid, but then when I have Alzheimer's, 279 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:49.720 I say, don't kill me, don't kill me, don't kill me, 280 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.240 don't kill me, don't kill me. Whom do you listen to? Who's 281 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.759 consent? Do you acknowledge me before I had Alzheimer's or me now while I 282 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:03.960 have Alzheimer's, while I might still be enjoying my life. Whose consent are 283 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:11.680 we getting? What if the wife? What if the man isn't able to 284 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:18.680 What if someone, let's say a man falls out of lucidity and mental capacity 285 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.480 for giving consent one way or another? Does his wife get to decide? 286 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.640 Does his wife say yep, off the old geezer? Does she get to 287 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:30.599 decide? Should we extend it to children? Should we not? Why do 288 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.960 eighteen year olds get to make this decision but seventeen year olds don't? Seems 289 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:41.039 like kind of an artificial line. So this line of quote consent or you 290 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:44.960 know, well, he wants to live, but his quality of life is 291 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.920 terrible. Is this really what we should want for this person? Is he 292 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:57.039 right in wanting to live? And then there's the cost factor that's associated with 293 00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:02.920 assisted suicide, and you think, asia, the dirty, little money grubbing 294 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:10.400 cost factor that's associated with all of this. Euthanasia and assisted suicide are way 295 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.160 cheaper than actually taking care of a person towards the end of his or her 296 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:18.160 life, Way cheaper. It's cheaper than chemo, it's cheaper than surgeries, 297 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.400 it's cheaper than dialysis, it's cheaper than all that crap. Giving someone rat 298 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.960 poison is a heck of a lot cheaper than actually taking care of someone it's 299 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.599 heck of a lot cheaper than palliative care. It's a lot cheaper than comfort 300 00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:38.000 care. It's just way cheaper, no two ways around it. And oh, 301 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:45.200 what a shocker that Canada, after Canada has expanded physician assisted suicide and 302 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.759 expanded, expanded, expanded it, who's eligible the pool of people gets expanded? 303 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.000 Oh, all of a sudden, people note, Oh, how surprising 304 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:57.160 that all the tens of thousands of people who are assisted suiciding themselves in Canada, 305 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:03.559 with Canada with their single pair healthcare system which has to look at dollars 306 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.799 and cents and balancing things and costly chem you know, costly chemo therapy versus 307 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.480 not so costly rat poison to kill someone at the end of their life. 308 00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:18.319 Oh, we've experienced all these cost savings from physician assistant suicide. Oh, 309 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:26.359 Collie Gene willakers. Who could have predicted that other than literally everyone? And 310 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:32.799 that that is obviously a little part of a motive that some people have is 311 00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:37.119 wanting to save costs. Oh, you don't think insurance companies will notice that? 312 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:47.680 Yeah they will. Now, what is going on in California. California 313 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:56.960 currently, since twenty fifteen, has legalized physician assisted suicide. You get prescribed 314 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:02.319 the drugs, you take them yourself. You're only eligible if you have a 315 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:07.480 six month terminal prognosis. Doctor looks at you, says, I think you 316 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:19.440 have about six months or less to live here pills. Well, there's a 317 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.319 bill in front of the California Legislature. S B one one nine six. 318 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:32.160 S B one one ninety six will expand the California Assistant Suicide Law by one 319 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:40.200 changing the criteria from terminally ill a six month prognosis to the Canadian model a 320 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.880 grievous and irremediable medical condition. What this means is that there's no time limit. 321 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.480 You don't have to have a doctor say well you've got six months to 322 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.200 live. Someone could just say, well, you're gonna die of this, 323 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.000 But it might be ten years from now, it might be five years from 324 00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:03.200 now. We don't know a person in that situation can be assisted suicided or 325 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:10.720 as we'll get into, genuinely euthanized. Two, we're lowering the standards for 326 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:18.000 who can decide whether or not they want assisted suicide euthanasia. This bill will 327 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:23.440 allow people with early to mid stage dementia to consent to assisted suicide. Or 328 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:30.000 euthanasia even though they have a condition that impairs their capacity to consent. And 329 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:36.880 this is maybe the big EIE. Three. We are straight up allowing euthanasia, 330 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.480 not just assisted suicide. Not a doctor prescribes, gives you the pills 331 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.200 that you ingest. Nope, doctor can hook up the IV for you and 332 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:52.079 pump the deadly drug straight into your veins. The doctor is killing you. 333 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.359 The bill would allow euthanasia by IV as happens in Canada. Currently, California 334 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.599 only permits assisted suicide lethal poison that a person takes orally at the time in 335 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.319 place of their own choosing, with or without witnesses. By the way, 336 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.519 this is written all by Alex Schadenberg, who's a great guy. He's the 337 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.319 executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition. He does work all over the world 338 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:25.680 actually documenting the growth of pro euthanasia movements. He's based in the US. 339 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.240 Four. Another thing else to B. Eleven ninety six will do. It 340 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:37.920 will remove the California residency requirement. So right now, for legal physician assistant 341 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:42.680 suicide in California, you got to be a California resident. Will This bill 342 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.839 would join Oregon and Vermont and allow people just to get on a plane to 343 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:57.279 California to come kill themselves. Five removing the forty eight hour waiting period between 344 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:06.119 the first and second requests by the PATI same day death. Six remove the 345 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:16.279 sunset that currently exists for California's current physician assistant suicide law. So let's just 346 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.279 lay this out what this is an attack on This is an attack on the 347 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.440 week. And I think it's particularly when one of the main groups that maybe 348 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:30.160 wouldn't expect that are so strongly opposed to physician assistant suicide are disabled people, 349 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:35.440 people with various kinds of physical disabilities. Why, because their healthcare is the 350 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:43.680 most expensive, and physician assistant suicide is going to be pushed on them more 351 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:51.200 so than anyone else. Their healthcare is the most expensive, people will make 352 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:55.839 judgments about their quote quality of life that they won't make about people who don't 353 00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:06.880 have disabilities. So it's precisely people with disabilities who often sort of disability advocacy 354 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.200 groups sort of lean a little soft left, not on assisted suicide, not 355 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:19.319 on euthanasia. And let's understand what happens if California starts adopting the Canadian program 356 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:27.160 of assisted suicide allowing direct euthanasia, no time limit on what your prognosis is. 357 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.079 I mean as flimsy as the sixth month prognosis is, because frankly, 358 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.000 there have been plenty of people who've gotten, you know, a six month 359 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.559 prognosis and have lived for the next twenty years, people who've gotten a twenty 360 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.680 year prognosis and have lived for a month. Okay, doctors are doing their 361 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.200 best faith estimate, but that's all it is. It's an estimate. We 362 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:50.200 don't know. The human body is a very complex thing. There's a million 363 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:59.799 factors that you just don't know. But let's think about this for context. 364 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.880 The number of assisted suicides that happen in Canada, which by the way, 365 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:16.920 has a population roughly the same size as California, has increased significantly thirteen two 366 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:23.599 hundred and forty one people assisted suicide in themselves in twenty twenty two or were 367 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:28.639 euthanized in twenty twenty two, which is a thirty one point two percent jump 368 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:32.320 over twenty twenty one. So you're going to be talking about tens of thousands 369 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:38.800 of Californians committing assisted suicide or being euthanized. People flying into California from other 370 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:45.719 states to get assisted suicide or euthanasia. People will be flying in from Texas, 371 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:51.679 coming from Arizona, coming from Nevada to kill themselves. It is a 372 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.519 money grubbing thing. It is an attack on the weak and the disabled. 373 00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.800 It's an attack on people who are poor to pressure them into cheap did suicide 374 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.000 rather than more costly medical care or paliative care, and paliative care provision is 375 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.079 going to suffer. It has suffered in every jurisdiction where physician assistant suicide is 376 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.559 allowed. We'll talk about this more Unright to Life Radio on Saturday, along 377 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.559 with the bill about trying to make every ear in Californian abortion clinic. When 378 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.400 we returned. One last thought on Joe Biden. Another possible motive for his 379 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:27.440 mishandling of classified documents. That's next on the John Girardi Show. One thing 380 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:32.880 that people have pointed out about President Biden as the transcript of Special Counsel Robert 381 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:38.800 Hurr's interview with Biden back in October of twenty three was released, one of 382 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:45.000 the things some people have pointed out is why was Biden squirreling away all these 383 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.320 classified documents? And I've made the point that it wasn't just his aids moving 384 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.159 boxes around, and one of the boxes accidentally found its way into his garage. 385 00:35:53.400 --> 00:36:04.119 Biden was deliberately squirreling away stuff specifically about Afghanistan, and he wrote about 386 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:13.079 in his autobiography or the book that his ghostwriter wrote with him. He wrote 387 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:19.079 about his position within the Obama administration, saying, I don't think we should 388 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.880 do an Afghanistan troop surge. I think this is the wrong thing. Biden 389 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:27.000 was trying to create this historical narrative that he Joe Biden was correct about Afghanistan, 390 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.880 that Afghanistan was a quagmar, and he was telling Obama that we need 391 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:31.199 to end this, and Obama didn't listen to him, and Joe Biden was 392 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:38.199 right. And so what we see is that Biden squirreled away a bunch of 393 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:45.719 Afghanistan specific stuff. We have audio of him. Robert Herr, the Special 394 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.719 counsel anyway, has audio of him talking with his ghostwriters saying, I've got 395 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.000 all the Afghanistan stuff here. And we find in his house a bunch of 396 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:59.559 Afghanistan stuff. It's either classified documents or his notes on classified info, which 397 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.199 when the vice president takes notes on classified info. Those notes become classified, 398 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:07.119 and we know it's Biden's own notes because he misspells Afghanistan in it. It's 399 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:15.960 his characteristic way of misspelling Afghanistan. He always left the h out. Let's 400 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.719 just note that dan Quail got run out of laughed out of American politics because 401 00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:27.480 he misspelled potato once. So Biden, yes, he was squirling away this 402 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.599 material to create this record, but it was also for a book that he 403 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:43.199 made eight million dollars on eight million dollars. Can't believe that many people bought 404 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:49.280 his stupid book. So Joe Biden makes eight million dollars on this book that 405 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:55.199 he's using this classified material to help him write. It wasn't just to create 406 00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.000 this historical narrative. It was also to make himself a bunch of money. 407 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.519 That'll do it for John Gerardi Show. See you guys next time on Power Talk