WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:14.080 This is WWE superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to the WWE podcast show, 2 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:28.160 the one that everybody wants me got sixteen, So your ass, this is 3 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:35.320 my arm. You're gonna acknowledge me. Alrighty, guys, let's get to 4 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:43.359 your WWE SmackDown Draft Night Part one review with the Botch Guide. We're gonna 5 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.880 get everything going in just a minute, but first I want to thank you 6 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:49.759 guys for listening. That's always number one. Number two. Check out the 7 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:54.520 Botch Guy's channel. I mean, this guy is just he's skyrocketing in in 8 00:00:54.640 --> 00:01:00.240 YouTube. Check him out, really worth your viewing time. Doesn't create very 9 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.840 long videos, so if you have a very short attention span, this is 10 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.680 the YouTube channel for you. If you love wrestling and you don't have a 11 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:10.760 big attention span, long attention span, this fits in perfectly. And he's 12 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:14.239 very energetic, great guy, fun to talk to. I can't say enough. 13 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:15.480 So check him out and he joins us on the show in just a 14 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:21.079 couple of minutes to discuss everything that happened on SmackDown and of course with the 15 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:26.280 draft that WWE did at least part one of their draft, which will conclude 16 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.560 on Monday night raw. So again, thank you guys for listening, and 17 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:34.439 we will be just so you know, the schedule back on Sunday night. 18 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.879 I am moving tomorrow. It is really late. That's actually one in the 19 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.840 morning right now. I have to be up at like six am, so 20 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:45.120 I'm gonna get a good, like you know, four hours of sleep, 21 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:49.000 and then of course press on and do all my moving and be back Sunday 22 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.799 night from my new location and give you guys a week in review. So 23 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:59.439 that'll be on Sunday, and then on Monday or Tuesday will be raw reviewing. 24 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:01.400 It'sretty much the same schedule the rest of that week, so I don't 25 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:07.039 anticipate any interruption in service, so to speak. So guys, we're gonna 26 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:09.680 get to a quick voicemail, we're gonna respond to it, and then we're 27 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:14.680 going to get into your review for SmackDown. So let's take a listen and 28 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:17.039 get the show on the road. Hello, Matt, how are you. 29 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.319 This is Chevron from me the Land Today. I want to talk to you 30 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:24.400 about a little bit about the importance of her brand. I know that the 31 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:30.080 past few podcasts you said that brand it doesn't matter because everyone is fighting. 32 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:38.439 Everyone but there were days, especially in the Ruthless Aggression era, that brand 33 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:43.599 doesn't matter. I remember that how much I loved Makedown in the Ruthless Aggression 34 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:47.639 era. It was the first home of John Fina. It was a great 35 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:53.759 place for Christian It was the great place for edge, for the Undertaker, 36 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:58.800 and I think that there was days that brand meant some film. Now I 37 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:04.560 think that like all the other things that the WW is doing, there is 38 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:08.520 no logic in the brand because I just think it's not important enough. Againd 39 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:14.840 of a feeling that W is thinking on their fans that they are just don't 40 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:19.919 smart enough for their don't care enough and if they were doing any kind of 41 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.520 changes in then what they are doing so the care the friends won't care about 42 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:30.680 it. But guess what, WW the fans all care about it, and 43 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:35.639 the care that there are no differency between the brands and they are care that 44 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:42.919 Monday Night Row and Friday Nights Makedown became pretty much the same thing, and 45 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:52.960 it really really makes me not like the current product of WW. Yeah, 46 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.400 that's it. I would like if you will speak a little bit more about 47 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:01.439 the days when there was a real difference between a Snakedown and ROW and now, 48 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:06.240 but it just looked the same thing the same program. Fan fee you 49 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:11.120 later by Hey, Sureeon, Thanks so much for calling back. It's been 50 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.639 a while. I'm glad to hear from you again. It sounds to be 51 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.160 doing well. Yeah, the whole brand split deal, I mean, you're 52 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.079 gonna hear a whole lot about it with the Botch guy and myself in just 53 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:25.759 a couple of minutes. But I think the fact that WWE not only doesn't 54 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.759 doesn't adhere to their own rules about a brand split, meaning you can't go 55 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.319 just show up on the other person's show. There has to be some rule 56 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:35.800 that, you know, like quarterly invitational, whatever, of which they didn't 57 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:42.240 even stick to that. But beyond the fact that people just come and go 58 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.439 as they please, where ww doesn't explain it, or there's a train that 59 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.879 happens that you know, we don't know how it happens or why it happens 60 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:53.600 or whatever. But beyond that, which is a huge flaw in in and 61 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.920 of itself, is that you have Like you said, both brands feel the 62 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.800 same, they're produced the same, they have the same set. It's just 63 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:05.160 a flip of color. You go from blue red or red to blue it's 64 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:09.519 the same exact thing. And don't worry. Like I said, with Survivors 65 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.160 Series coming up next month, all of the stars on both brands will suddenly 66 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:19.040 have a strong, strong connection with that color that they got drafted to. 67 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:25.680 Suddenly they will. They will protect it like it's their firstborn child because it's 68 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.680 Survivors Series and we have to we have to fight for our brand. It's 69 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.680 gonna be absolute nonsense, so get ready for that. But yeah, the 70 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:36.920 shows feel the same. There's no distinction between them other than colors. That's 71 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:42.360 it. That's it. And yes that the faces changed, but in terms 72 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.279 of production, it's the same show, just a different color. I totally 73 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.800 agree, and it does hurt the whole. Well, I'm drafted to row 74 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:53.560 or SmackDown. One's not better than the other. Right ones on Fox, 75 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.480 ones on USA, We're in the same building. You just put on a 76 00:05:56.480 --> 00:06:00.439 different color shirt. That's it. I'm with you. So thanks, share 77 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:04.199 own and I hope you're doing well and please call back soon. Alrighty guys, 78 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:08.720 Well, before we get going here, follow us on Twitter at Wrestling 79 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:13.879 Underscore Audio. That's Wrestling Underscore Audio. You can also email the show at 80 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:19.439 Real WWE Podcast at gmail dot com, and don't forget that you can also 81 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:25.000 call the show. You can call us and leave a voicemail at five one 82 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:31.120 eight nine five two zero two four seven that you can leave voicemail if you'd 83 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.279 like to chime in about your thoughts about the draft or anything else going on 84 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:38.399 in WWE. You have three minutes, So those of you that think you're 85 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.519 going to do a long form audio, the voicemail will cut you off at 86 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:45.399 three minutes, So try to be concise with your argument, with your rant, 87 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:47.639 or your question or your comments, just so you don't get caught off. 88 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:53.439 Alrighty, So check us out also on YouTube at YouTube dot com, 89 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:58.199 Slash the WWE Podcast Instagram. You guys all know it, so alrighty, 90 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.759 let's just get to it. Let's let's just jumped to the Batch Guy myself 91 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:08.639 discussing the WWE Draft night one, so I will talk to everyone on Sunday 92 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.600 night already. Guys, you know who this guy is. You've heard him 93 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.480 before or maybe you're new to the show. Either way, you should know 94 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.759 who he is. He is the Batch Guy. He has an awesome YouTube 95 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:23.920 channel where he talks about various things that happen on raw or SmackDown or NXT 96 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:29.480 and just makes it really enjoyable to watch and covers different moments in very short 97 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.120 order in an entertaining, energetic way. And it's really good to have you 98 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:38.000 back to talk about the draft and SmackDown. That just concluded. How you 99 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:42.000 doing, man, that's a hell of a plog man. I appreciate that 100 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:45.519 quite quite dearly. Yeah, how's it going, guys? I am the 101 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.560 Batch guy. I do a YouTube channel covering a lot of different topics in 102 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:54.480 the WWE, but I mostly focus on like comedy and parodies and stuff like 103 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.720 that. So definitely check me out if you want. But it's a pleasure 104 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:03.079 to be with you, Matt. Always a pleasure doing any sort of spots 105 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.920 with you and talking SmackDown. Tonight's gonna be a hell of a show. 106 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.920 There's a lot to talk about, right like there, there is so much 107 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.759 that happened. It felt like it felt like WWE changed course here. It 108 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:18.319 felt like they they did some big things. There were certainly a couple of 109 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:22.360 botches and I guess pun intended with the with the pop up power bomb and 110 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.319 and you know, we can get to that later. But I guess what 111 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.319 do you what are the big takeaways from you. What are the one or 112 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:33.919 two big things that happened on SmackDown in your eyes? Well, I have 113 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.000 a there's so much to talk about. Let me just get like some of 114 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.799 the higher hype stuff, like the whole breakup with the New Day, our 115 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:43.240 guests to split up with the New Day. I think that was kind of 116 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.639 interesting how they did it. Of course, Lar Sullivan coming back, I 117 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.679 thought that was completely out of nowhere. You know, some of the matches 118 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:56.159 I thought were pretty good overall, and some of the storylines were pretty decent 119 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:01.200 overall too. Honestly, I quite enjoyed the sh overall. And obviously the 120 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.120 big thing everybody wants to talk about is the actual draft. Who's going where, 121 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.399 how it's gonna shake up with everything? What did you think, Matt, 122 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.600 Yeah, yeah, so agreed. I mean, there's a lot that 123 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.399 happened match wise and storyline wise, but the big thing that happened here. 124 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.399 The entire show was built around the draft, and I like the way that 125 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.039 they did it this year. I'm glad they didn't do war rooms and silly 126 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.279 stuff like that where they had Fox executives and USA executives pretending to be super 127 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.000 excited about people they have no idea about. So I was glad to see 128 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.879 no war rooms. It was just Stephanie McMahon coming back and coming out on 129 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.720 the podium, and that's fine with me. And I think the biggest to 130 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:43.679 me, the biggest news coming out of this maybe Seth Rollins going to SmackDown, 131 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.360 which I have been really advocating for, and I'm loving the fact that 132 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.320 he's on SmackDown And I said to myself, oh my god, he's finally 133 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.200 away from the mysterios. And then who gets drafted to SmackDown Dominic and Ray? 134 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.720 But I think for Seth this will be a really good thing. He 135 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.320 can no longer call himself the money it Messiah, so we'll have to see 136 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.039 what he does. So what do you Because, like when I was watching 137 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.039 the draft, like I like the old school drafts, Like I mean, 138 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.559 like ten years back, when you know you had like the Undertaker sitting in 139 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:13.879 there with the crowd, you know, and they're all reacting to who's going 140 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.480 his raw and who's going to smack down. I love that because it's just 141 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.120 such natural storytelling, right. It kind of reminds me of you know, 142 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.360 like the football drafts. And then NBA, NHL and all that stuff, 143 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:30.080 and I quite like that this year was an improvement over last year for sure, 144 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:33.639 no doubt in my mind. I didn't like the whole executive office stuff. 145 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:35.519 I was kind of down to earth simple, but again I did like 146 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:41.159 the old school way. As for seth Rawlins himself, man, I'm so 147 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.840 happy just to see him have a new prominent role over here, because you 148 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:50.080 know, seth Rowlins's character has has changed so drastically over the years. You 149 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.679 know, he went from the laughing gimmick to everybody hates them gimmick, you 150 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:56.559 know, and then he was kind of confused gimmick for going on there for 151 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:58.960 a little while with the whole Becky stuff, and all of a sudden he's 152 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.600 the biggest face and then he turns heel again and it's just like seth Rawlins 153 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.840 the money night Messiah, and it's honestly confusing. But now the fact that 154 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.679 he's going away from the you know, the mysterials, not really because they 155 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.279 got drafted over to SmackDown. Honestly, it's pretty exciting. But at the 156 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:18.840 same time, I will say, I guess you're not a big fan of 157 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.200 the whole mysterial storyline. Me personally, I don't really mind it. Matt, 158 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:24.759 What is it a boat that you don't like about? The length? 159 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.639 I mean, it's the simple the length. I mean, I loved it. 160 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:31.480 I thought it overachieved many months ago. But I think it's just time 161 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.559 and now they're bringing in a Leah and it's just getting bizarre. But I 162 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.399 did like the Murphy baby face turned. That was a nice touch. It 163 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:39.519 got me interested in what Murphy's gonna do against Seth. I did like that. 164 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.639 I don't care about the Mysterio family and they're really really poor acting, 165 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.000 and I just think that, you know, when you have Mysterial and Dominic 166 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:50.320 get drafted, the first thing they talk about is not necessarily what they're gonna 167 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.279 do. Maybe challenge for the tag titles or you know, try and just 168 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.320 turn over a new leaf. They start talking about, well, Seth Rowins 169 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:00.159 can run for his past, but you know his past. We'll catch up 170 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.200 with Seth Rawlins just like no, no, like, can we please escape 171 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.320 this? It's just you know, after the the eye for an eye, 172 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.000 after you know, match, after a match with Dominic and Seth inside of 173 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.399 his steel cage, all this stuff, Like I'm just done with the story, 174 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.519 it's just time for it to go away. So it wasn't a bad 175 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.200 storyline. I enjoyed it for the most part. It's just time for it 176 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.120 to go well. Honestly, at the beginning when seth Rawlins was doing all 177 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.320 the eye stuff and all that stuff, it was fine. I enjoyed it. 178 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:30.399 I like the progression of the storylines using Dominic. You know, he's 179 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:31.720 on the main roster now, right, and he's you know, a prominent 180 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:35.639 figure. I know what's his name now, right, So I guess they 181 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.840 did a good job there. I agree with you one hundred percent with like, 182 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.320 the rest of the family don't really need need him. I do like 183 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.879 the Aliyah part of it with Murphy, just because it does give Murphy an 184 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.399 actual storyline separate of the whole seth Rawlins exactly think. I know, he's 185 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.080 kind of like involved in it, but in a way, I just like 186 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.639 the fact that Murphy is known now as a pretty good babyface now and he's 187 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.519 honestly one of been one of the most underrated wrestlers and performers in the ww 188 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.960 for so long. It's kind of nice that he has a character all of 189 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.600 a sudden, Yeah, he has depth, and he didn't have that because 190 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.799 we all know how amazing he is inside the ring. He is so damn 191 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.399 good. The matches he had against Alistair Black that two out of three matches 192 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.799 that he had or three out of three actually, and he lost all three. 193 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.399 And then that's when he went to Seth Rawlins and he picked him up 194 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.000 when he was down. And yeah, this does give him actual depth. 195 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.360 It gives him something that he can sink his teeth into other than just showing 196 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.240 us how great he is in the ring. That I agree with. And 197 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:39.039 I am excited for the matches that Seth and Murphy are going to have presumably 198 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:41.960 down the line here. That is what I'm really excited for. And hear 199 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:45.279 him hearing him more on the mic. It does give him a personality with 200 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:50.600 a leah. But I guess maybe it's Ramy Siro's wife who is just miss 201 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.879 Roboto. I mean, she has no emotion. There's just nothing there. 202 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.039 I mean, I don't know if they didn't, maybe that she needs a 203 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.720 software upgrade, I don't know, but she is there's just nothing there. 204 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.480 I'm over the material family as a whole. Yeah, So Murphy, huge 205 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.279 beneficiary, big fan of that it's just that I'm just done with the storyline 206 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.159 in general. It's time for it to go. I agree with one hundred 207 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.279 percent. It's definitely time to move on, at least for the seth Rawlins 208 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.639 part of it. If they want to continue to doing some of the Murphy 209 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:22.080 and Leah stuff, share whatever, but seth Rawlins needs to go to something 210 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.919 else now, please. Yeah. No, no, I'm I'm one hundred 211 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:26.919 percent on Moore for that. And I guess the next big thing that happened 212 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:31.480 that a lot of people are talking about with the draft is not just New 213 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.279 Day coming back and winning the tag team championships, which I really have a 214 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.519 big problem with. I really really don't like that they were just afforded an 215 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.840 opportunity with no explanation. Even Corey Graves went off on that, you know, 216 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.960 WW a lot of times just gives title opportunities away. They don't They 217 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.639 always talk about earning things. There's never an explanation for a lot of these 218 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.240 rematches. And somehow, you know, with even Selena Vega, who just 219 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.799 went in her singles career, her first singles match is a women's championship match. 220 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.759 I love Selena, but it makes no sense and then New Day comes 221 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.320 back, and what just because of their tenure, they're afforded Day championship opportunity. 222 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.120 It just really dilutes championship importance. It deludes the value of any championship 223 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.960 when and no one's explained how they earned it. But nonetheless we have New 224 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:18.360 Day win win the championship and then they're drafted to Raw. So maybe maybe 225 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:24.039 I'm not overthinking this. And when they're drafted to Raw, WW actually explained 226 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:28.080 that if a champion or champions are drafted to their opposing brand, that they 227 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.919 bring the championship with them. But how the hell are they going to bring 228 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:37.639 the SmackDown Champion Tag Team championships to Raw? Are they just gonna immediately transition 229 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.360 to Raw tag team titles? And what happens to the Street Profits who are 230 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.440 the Raw tag team champions? Like, I don't understand how this happens. 231 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.559 How can you be a SmackDown Tag Team champion and be on your opposing brand? 232 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.159 It makes no sense. Am I overthinking this? No, That's exactly 233 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:54.240 what's gonna happen. They're gonna go to the Street Profits because they're gonna probably 234 00:15:54.240 --> 00:16:00.240 go to smack Now they're gonna be y guys, So about the whole raw 235 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.360 back Them championships. Yeah, you guys are now the Smackdout Tactam Championships because 236 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.559 you know it just happened to get drafted the Smackdout. Honestly, I can't 237 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.559 agree with you more. I think it's crazy. What did the New Day 238 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.440 do exactly to get a chance to win the titles? And then they of 239 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.759 course win, right because they want to do the whole separation with Big E. 240 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.159 Whitch by the way, we'll get to that, but I love that 241 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.320 aspect, But I want to just talk about the New Day for now. 242 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:29.879 Honestly, I think it makes no sense. I think it's stupid. I 243 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.879 think they give no explanations. It's drives me insane. It's kind of like 244 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:38.960 roll up victories. It drives me nuts. And honestly, this is so 245 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:45.320 consistent on being inconsistent and it drives me nuts. Man, it drives me 246 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.360 crazy. But I do want to ask you, Matt, what do you 247 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:56.480 think about Big E officially now he's officially split up working on a singles career. 248 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:00.919 First of all, I will say that I went when I've found out 249 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.200 that not only did New Day come back, they won the tag team titles, 250 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.039 which I really really don't like, and we just talked about that, 251 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.839 but I was concerned, Oh God, now Big E's career just got caught 252 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.559 short. Maybe Vince McMahon had a second thought and it didn't go as planned, 253 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.079 and he's pulling back on that and just going with The New Day again 254 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:23.119 and again and again. And I was really disappointed and angry because it felt 255 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:27.039 like Big E's career hasn't even gotten started yet. You know, he has 256 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:33.519 essentially been even after Xavier and Kobe Kingston were gone from injury, he has 257 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.039 really kind of been the same guy. We have seen very little, although 258 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.720 occasional changes in his personality. He has just essentially been Big Eie from the 259 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:47.119 New Day, with pancakes and bizarre promos and just really flamboyant and all that 260 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.920 kind of stuff. And I don't think he can exist in a singles career 261 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:55.240 being just what the New Day was, and he needs to just evolve into 262 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.920 his own music, into his own personality. And I've had a big problem 263 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:00.440 with that, not there's no have a of the Big Ee character. And 264 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.480 when the New Day came back, I go, well, everything's dead. 265 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:10.400 And when they announced that New Day meaning An Xavier and Kovie Kingston as SmackDown 266 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:12.839 tag team champions are going raw, I said, Ali Lujah, and now 267 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:15.960 Spiggie is forced to be on his own. They didn't seem happy about it, 268 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:18.960 but it is going to be the best thing for Big E in his 269 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.039 career. This tells me, this is this is WWE telling the fans. 270 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.160 Look, his singles career is not over. It's just getting started. I 271 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:30.599 loved that message, and I hope it continues and Big E evolves from the 272 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.599 New Day personality. He needs to, he has to. And what's so 273 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.160 great about it now is, let's just say. You know, remember when 274 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:42.599 Biggie cut that amazing ass promo against the USO's in near WrestleMania time and he 275 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:48.000 went in full blown serious mode. I love that fire. And when I 276 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:49.680 saw that, I'm thinking, man, he would be a great heel one 277 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.759 day. He would be a great heel one day, or at least he's 278 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.920 going to be one hell of a baby face. And when I saw something 279 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.640 like that, I saw that fire, I kept on thinking, man, 280 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:03.680 he's restricted. He's so restricted. And now the fact that he's going out 281 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.359 in a singles career, like you said, he's going to be getting a 282 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.839 new entrance song. Most likely he's going to be getting a new persona new 283 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.680 gimmick. Look that we're hoping, right like, this is a hope, 284 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.559 right, He's not just gonna come out and you know, ride a unicorn 285 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.640 onto the stage, right like, we're hoping that this happens. And I 286 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.960 think it's gonna happen. And because of the separation, what's nice about this 287 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:25.240 is he didn't exactly like break up when it comes to like, you know 288 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.599 how you break up when the Shield broke up, a clear betrayal. No, 289 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.319 they're still friends, they're still cool, but they're on separate brands. 290 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.839 So now you could technically turn heel are with Big E in the future without 291 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.640 having to kind of mess up that friendship because they're they're not related, not 292 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.319 connected as of this year. And that's something I would like them to see 293 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.480 in the future. But right now, push him as a face, that's 294 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:48.200 fine. But I want to see a new persona, and I want to 295 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:51.799 see aggression, and I want to see those promos, those fire promos. 296 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.200 They're there, they live inside of him, beyond the inside jokes and the 297 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.759 wink and nod of the camera. And all the silly stuff that we've seen 298 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.839 that has really I think, well it's way past its expiration date. I've 299 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.359 been calling from the New Days split up for years, years, but it's 300 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.920 a cash cow at WWE. It's an extremely successful team that doesn't come along 301 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.599 very often, and I understand their their hesitation to break them up at times. 302 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.519 But now it's official, and you're right, like this, this is 303 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:21.480 this needs to be fiery big Ee. Now, are we gonna see him 304 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:25.240 turn on a dime? Probably not. He's probably not gonna come out next 305 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:27.319 week and you be, you know, walking down in a suit with a 306 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.559 different entrance music. Just I mean, it's not gonna happen. I need 307 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:36.519 a natural, organic no no, no, no. I the suit thing 308 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.880 is to me overplayed. But I don't think or what I do want is 309 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:44.240 an organic progression into a new character that I mean, that's fine. He 310 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:45.920 can kind of be Big Ee from the New Day, but it's slowly kind 311 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:51.440 of just just like fizzles away and he's into his own guy, his own 312 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.119 character. That's when he needs and I hope that's what they're planning. But 313 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:57.480 I don't need Big Ee coming out and finding bootyos underneath the ring like he 314 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:02.160 did, and like I mean, it's just it's just embarrassing, like and 315 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:04.680 I mean that was a bust ass match that he had with Seamus. I 316 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:08.599 will say they killed each other on SmackDown. They I mean they were bleeding 317 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:15.279 and and I give credit to both guys. How big Ee wasn't pinned after 318 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.559 white noise through a windshield or a bro kick on the outside at the beginning 319 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:22.000 of the match is still beyond me. But Biggie ends up winning through with 320 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.279 a big ending through the car or through the table rather and I that was 321 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:29.559 the right thing to do. It was the right message to send. But 322 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:32.680 what do you think about the match itself? Quickly? You know, you 323 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:37.079 know Seamus Seamus. You could put him against literally anybody and any sort of 324 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:41.400 like street flight type style match, you know, false count anywhere match, 325 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:45.480 and he will always put on a good show. Like like the bar thing 326 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.240 was great, you know, back when he was doing the bar with Cesarro 327 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.000 there, all that stuff was great. And honestly, Seamus is a guy 328 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.119 you can put him anywhere and do anything with them and he'll do a good 329 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:59.400 job. But I think that's where it's a good spot for Seamus and big 330 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.279 E turned out the fire. He had some good fire. But again I 331 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:04.880 agree with the bootyos thing. I just it's it's just I want to see 332 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:08.599 him move on. It's time to move on as a character. They finally 333 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:12.640 have the split, and that's good enough for me. Exactly exactly and other 334 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:18.440 kind of draft news we had predictably seth or Roman Reigns stand SmackDown and Drew 335 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.720 stay on Raw, and I guess I'm not sad about that. I mean, 336 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.799 they could have flip flopped and you could have had Drew on SmackDown and 337 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:30.279 Roman Reigns on Raw. But if it's just a fifty to fifty split and 338 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.160 it's really not benefiting one of the other, then I'm fine with both staying 339 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.319 there. They both feel pretty established in their own brands. Like when I 340 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.680 think of Raw, I like to think of Drew McIntyre, and I'm glad 341 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.519 that I think of Drew McIntyre associated with the Raw brand, And same with 342 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.799 Roman Rains. He is, as Corey Graves called it, the backbone of 343 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.119 SmackDown. I mean, I do enjoy Roman Reigns, and God, I 344 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.359 love his heel persona so much. I mean, it's It's just so damn 345 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:59.480 refreshing to see him as a heel. He feels so natural as all of 346 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:04.160 us hold WWE for six years now after his forced babyface run for six years 347 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.799 that he would be an amazing heel, and so far he has certainly shown 348 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:12.240 more and more progression and to me felt more way more natural as a heel. 349 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.839 But him on SmackDown as the backbone and foundation is SmackDown. I really 350 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.920 don't have a problem with these two staying on the respective brands, do you. 351 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:23.359 Honestly, I knew Fox was gonna wasn't gonna let Roman Raids leave. 352 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:27.039 I was one hundred percent sure, and that Roman Raids is gonna stay on 353 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:30.960 SmackDown. I had no doubt in my mind, And honestly, I like 354 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.960 that the fact that there's both kind of you know, there's still establishing themselves 355 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.440 on those brands as being like the big guys. I know they have naturally 356 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.119 that charisma. Roman Reigns obviously is the top guy in the company, so 357 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.000 wherever he goes is basically the top brand. But honestly, it's nice. 358 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.599 It's nice to see them keep on, you know, trucking along establishing the 359 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:52.960 brands quite nicely and Drew McIntyre. You know, I'm I've always told this 360 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:57.039 man, I'm a huge fan of Drew McIntyre. I've always been. I 361 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.200 don't know how much longer he's gonna be holding that championship, and I honestly 362 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.839 don't even know who might be taking that championship off of him. I would 363 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.400 actually love to ask you, Matt, is there anybody particular do you think 364 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.319 that it's going to be taking that championship? Is going to be Randy Orton 365 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:14.880 or somebody else maybe from adst coming up, Keith Lee? What do you 366 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.000 have in mind there with Drew McIntyre, Randy, I think Randy Orton will 367 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:22.240 do it. I mean, although if you guys, and when I say 368 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.680 you guys, my listeners know like that, I have been a terrible predictor 369 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:29.119 of Randy Orton winning the championship over the last two months, like I have 370 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:30.680 since they had their first encounter a couple of months ago. I said, 371 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.480 oh, Randy's taken it, he's got to. And then he lost, 372 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.799 and then he lost again in the ambulance match, and now he's got the 373 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.440 actual hell of a cell match. You would think third times to Charma, 374 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.559 you can't have a hot heel as great as Randy Orton has been to lose 375 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.720 again to Dreamcatarre's great of a champion as Drew is. And that's the thing, 376 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.480 Like I love him as champion, I have no problem with him as 377 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:55.759 champion. I've just been of the belief that having an extremely hot heel and 378 00:24:55.960 --> 00:25:00.759 as seasoned as Randy Orton is and how great he could be as a champion, 379 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.759 I see a bigger benefit in that than Drew McIntyre continuing his reign. 380 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.720 We've had him as champion now for six months, like we've had our fun. 381 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.000 I'm totally good with it if they decide to kill it now. I 382 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:12.599 know a lot of fans are probably out there going no too. He's great 383 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:17.880 as champion, But you can't tell me that a baby face in chase mode 384 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:22.319 for a hot heel who is champion isn't a better story. Having a baby 385 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.240 face in chase mode is all about the story because you're on the journey with 386 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.200 them to get to the championship, climb that mountain to get and overcome the 387 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.960 heel to grab that championship. So I am to me, I've been a 388 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:38.480 Randy Orton supporter to become WWE champion forever now and I hope it comes to 389 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.839 Fruition and Helen to sell. And it's weird because people think you don't want 390 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:45.480 drewis champion. I do, but I want Randy Orton even more because I 391 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:51.960 think that's a better story to tell. It all depends on what they're trying 392 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.599 to do. They know for a fact that Randy Orton as a champion would 393 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.680 work. He would absolutely kill it. He's been on the top of his 394 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.039 game for over four to six months. He's been insane honestly cutting promos in 395 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.160 the middle of matches. It's just so good. I think what they're trying 396 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:11.640 to do is they want to make sure they establish Drew McIntire more than anybody 397 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.240 else. They need to make sure that he is that upper echelon talent, 398 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.960 that high caliber talent. And if he did lose to Randy Orton the first 399 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:23.279 or second time, I do think personally, even though Randy Orton is as 400 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:27.119 good as he is right now, I think it would actually benefit Drew a 401 00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.839 little bit more that he wins those first two matches now, because if he 402 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.880 does now lose against Randy Orton the third time, well, he beat him 403 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.799 two times, he still looks strong. Randy finally gets it. So honestly, 404 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:41.920 I see what the WWE is doing. I obviously see what you're saying. 405 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.519 It's a tricky one, right, It's a tricky one because the ratings 406 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.039 are you know, we can go for a rant about that, but you 407 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.400 know, it's it's a tricky one, Matt, it is. And that's 408 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.599 why I'm struggling because I hate saying that I don't want Drews champion, because 409 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:57.359 I do. But I just in my mind, I see a great heel 410 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.880 champion in Randy. And it does all depend what they're trying to do. 411 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:04.079 I mean, if they are trying to prep Randy Orton and the whole w 412 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:10.519 universe environment for a EDGE return, then having Orton as champion may make sense. 413 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.759 It all depends on what Edge's return is scheduled for. From what I'm 414 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.519 hearing, it could be in a couple of months. So if Randy has 415 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.680 the belt from October to December or January or maybe through WrestleMania, that's not 416 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.279 really asking a ton where people could complain that, oh god, it's a 417 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.920 legacy star, an old guy holding the belt. You know, it's a 418 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.920 short enough time where Edge and Chase mode would be a whole lot of fun. 419 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.319 I just don't know. I would think that's the endgame, is Edge 420 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:40.039 challenging Randy Orton for the w W Championship. And some people also may say, 421 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:41.160 because I've heard it that, well, wait a minute, Edge, 422 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.519 how old Edge is? Why would we want him as WWE champion? Come 423 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:49.640 on, Well, first of all, it is not uncommon for WWE legends 424 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.839 to return and capture a championship for a short amount of time to help new 425 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.480 guys out, to help new talent, to create ratings. I mean, 426 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:02.000 they are needle movers. I believe Edges champion could be a needle mover, 427 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.920 and there's a story to tell there. I'm not saying for a long Edge 428 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.000 run as champion. If Randy Orton becomes champion, and if Edge challenges Randy 429 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.200 Yorton, I mean, I'm like three steps ahead of myself. But I 430 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.039 have no problem with Edge becoming w WE Champion, which I think I think 431 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:23.400 that's what they're probably trying to do. Does this rivalry between Edge and Norton 432 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.400 need a championship? No, it doesn't. I don't. I don't think 433 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.400 it does. If I had a choice, I'd probably exclude it because I 434 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.799 don't think it's needed. But if that's where they're going, I have no 435 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.599 problem with it. And Matt, you've caught a pretty good promo there, 436 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.240 Matt, I think you should be Ricochet's new manager. I think, well, 437 00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.160 the resident superhero whatever the hell that means. Like, I mean, 438 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.880 I could when they call Ricochet resident superhero, like, what has he done 439 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.440 that superhero like? I mean, look, because he can do crazy, 440 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:56.039 I mean he's rate does Yeah, yeah, exactly does he have a superpower 441 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.920 for losing? I mean I don't. I don't know. Yeah, I 442 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.880 don't know. I can go on like a fifty minute tangent on Ricochet and 443 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.759 how much I'm pissed off of every single aspect of his character to the way 444 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.920 they booked them off. We don't have a long enough radio show, my 445 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.559 friend. I know I'm feeling the anger boiling up in me as well, 446 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:21.480 so we should probably suppress that for fear of really just ranting for a good 447 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.680 thirty forty minutes. I agree, I'm with you, I feel it boiling. 448 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:29.039 I'm gonna move on to Lars Sullivan. He attacks Riddle and Hardy, 449 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.599 and I didn't see this coming. The freak is back. I'm kind of 450 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.400 sad he's shaved his beard a little bit. I think he looked more like 451 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.000 a freak with the longer beard. But he's still in really good shape. 452 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.119 I think he's got a great look. It's great to see him back. 453 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:47.039 I didn't expect it. I don't think anybody saw this coming, and I 454 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.319 have no problem with it. It's weird that he attacked Riddle and Hardy and 455 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.880 you try to get a hold of the Miz and all that stuff. He's 456 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.279 just there to cause destruction, so I guess wwe wanted to put him in 457 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.279 a position where there was the most people in the ring that he could destroy. 458 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.680 So I don't think it's anything personal against Hardy and Riddle. I just 459 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.039 don't know his purpose. I mean, I don't even know. I can't 460 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:10.400 even think of Lars Sullivan promo. We know nothing about this guy. What 461 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.160 did you think about his return? Did you did you feel anything for this? 462 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.839 I felt quite a bit, but honestly, the first of all, 463 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.720 I didn't see it coming, not even a mile away. I so completely 464 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.440 forgot about Lars Sullivan. I was actually just randomly looking. I'm like, 465 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:26.759 when was the last time we saw him, and it was like, I 466 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.559 don't know, man, like like nine months ago or something like. It 467 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.079 was a long time ago when he got injured and obviously all the backstage drama 468 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.640 and all the you know, other type of drama that I don't know if 469 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.200 I should bring up on the show. But you know, Lars Sullivan as 470 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.599 a character, as a gimmick, I think it works. I really like 471 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.920 the character. I like that he looks, you know, mean strong. 472 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.119 He does have a natural charisma when it comes to looking like a badass. 473 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.279 It's something that a lot of big guys don't seem to have, and he 474 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.480 does have it. He does legitimately look kind of like a serial killer, 475 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.640 like he looks like he's gonna kill everybody in the middle of the ring, 476 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.759 which is, you know, as a character that works very well for him. 477 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.680 But I didn't see it coming. But I am happy he's back because 478 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.240 I said before and I'll say it again, I've always been a fan of 479 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.279 Lars Sullivan's gimmick, maybe not the person, but the gimmick itself. And 480 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.000 I think he does have a good mid card appeal. Eventually, maybe he 481 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.960 can work his way a little bit higher but I don't know, I quite 482 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.079 enjoyed it, to be honest, I had a mini mark up moments because 483 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.319 he was so kind of out of com Welcome back to the WWE podcast. 484 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:42.519 Let's get back to more great wrestling audio. Yeah, I'm with you. 485 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.960 It's like, I'm excited. I don't feel angry for the character. I 486 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:48.720 don't feel like I'm not you know, I wouldn't cheer for the character. 487 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.039 I'm just kind of like, cool, let's see where this goes. Because 488 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:53.400 we don't know a whole lot about him. He feels like he's kind of 489 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.799 the Bronze Strowman from a few years ago when he was just doing squash matches 490 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.039 and you're like, and he was coming out out and saying, folly, 491 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:05.599 I want real competition, and you know, he's I feel like that's where 492 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.920 he's at of just establishing him as a monster. He'll squash people week after 493 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:14.000 week after week and take maybe the Bronze Stroman path to the main event if 494 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.480 he's able to get there and avoid drama and avoid his anxiety and all the 495 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.079 things that he's had problems with in the past. He certainly had a checkered 496 00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.559 past of injury and backstage problems and all that kind of stuff. So hopefully 497 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.839 things are resolved and he can move forward. But yeah, Lara Sullivan, 498 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.079 look I'm fine, I'm fine with it, but I also want to move 499 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.880 on though, because when I saw this in the first round, here we 500 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.599 had we had Drew McIntyre, we had Roman Reigns on SmackDown Raw. We 501 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:45.599 also had Osca staying on Raw, and we had seth Rollins going to SmackDown, 502 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.039 which was to me the maybe the biggest move maybe of the entire draft. 503 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.200 But the Hurt business is in the first round. I mean, the 504 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.599 Hurt business is in the first round. Look, they are a main stay 505 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.799 on Raw, they have been in a lot of segments. They have a 506 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:04.279 pro a problem with retribution, and I just I was surprised that the Hurt 507 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.240 business was in the very first round. Were you surprised about that as well? 508 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:13.319 And also Oscar staying unwrow. Yeah, I think the first round was 509 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.559 a little bit early, too early for the Hurt message. But what's nice 510 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:22.599 about it is they are clearly establishing their stable as a high end main event 511 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:29.720 slash kind of upper main event type stable, heel stable, And what I 512 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.759 like about that is because they've naturally progressed up, Like, this isn't a 513 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.319 group that's kind of been stale. This isn't a group that's kind of not 514 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:43.359 doing much. They have been slowly recruiting, slowly getting better. The matches 515 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.799 have been getting bettered or more. Bobby Lashley looks more legitimate every single week. 516 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:52.000 And I like that aspect because MVP has done such a good job overall. 517 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.039 Now obviously what they're gonna be doing is the hurt business versus retribution something 518 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.640 there. The only thing I don't really like about it is like, what 519 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.559 are they? Right? They're a heel group, but retribution is a heel 520 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.480 group, right, there's a kind of a heel group, right, So 521 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.320 like what is that exactly? Why is it the hurt business exactly that has 522 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.239 this problem with them? Like that's the thing that doesn't make much sense to 523 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.800 me overall as a storyline. It doesn't make sense. And I know that 524 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.480 they offered their services to Adam Pierce, who I guess they negotiated some kind 525 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:30.079 of monetary supplement to them as to providing services to protect raw because his security 526 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.320 team was you know, like about as good as a you know, a 527 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:36.280 middle school football team. I mean it was. It was terrible. I 528 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:40.239 mean, both of us up Matt Security, yes, I'm serious. I 529 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.760 mean, my eight year old nephew and his friends could probably have done a 530 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.199 better job than Adam Pierce's crack security team week after week after week after month. 531 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.599 But the hurt business, I guess is their problem is just that they 532 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.519 decided to stand up for RAW, which is weird as a heel group, 533 00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:55.800 that you would stand up for the brand, which is I mean, I 534 00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:00.159 don't understand that, but it's the only group WWE's god that has en he 535 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.400 legs to it. So they decided to do it, and MVP is clearly 536 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:07.039 the glue of this entire team. There's no question about it. MVP, 537 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.960 I think is doing better work now than he's ever done in WWE. Even 538 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.239 with his first run of ball In and all that stuff, and his program 539 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.239 with Matt Hardy back and the mid two thousands all that stuff. This is 540 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.320 the best version of MVP. He has way overachieved what I thought he was 541 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.920 going to do in his second run here in WWE. And to see Bobby 542 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:32.320 Lashley involved in Shelton Benjamin being really resurrected from the grave and Cedric Alexander as 543 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.639 well. I mean, really, Shelton Benjamin was kind of like the star 544 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.480 that's like, oh yeah, he used to do some cool stuff. He 545 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.719 took a great sweet chet music from Shawn Michael's on RAB twelve years ago, 546 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.519 and you know that's pretty much all you remember. And he was doing this 547 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.039 weird thing if you remember where he was like following something in the camera, 548 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.760 like there was a fly in the room or something. Remember that that whole 549 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.159 thing where he would just like stare around like what. Yeah, So Shelton 550 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:59.719 Benjamin came from literally the grave back into a relevancy in this group, and 551 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:04.559 I you know what that is probably what WWE's message here with drafting them in 552 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.280 the first round is this is a serious group. This is a group you 553 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.679 should take for real, because we're drafting them in the first round. So 554 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:14.559 I agree. It just to me they're not there yet, but they told 555 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:15.760 you this is where they're going to be, and I'm fine with that. 556 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:20.719 You know. MVP is like the opposite version of Triple H. Instead of 557 00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.760 grabbing a shovel and shoveling him down, he literally grabs the shovel to lift 558 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:29.760 all these characters and wrestlers out of the ground and says, hey, join 559 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.960 me, I'll show you how it's done. This Honestly, this is by 560 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.960 far the best I have ever, I mean ever seen MVP. I think 561 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:42.480 not only that, I think he's earned himself a contract for the next three 562 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.559 to five years. I think there's just so much you could do with him, 563 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:47.199 even if, you know, even if the hurt business eventually starts to 564 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.239 fade and you can just you can always put him with somebody, right, 565 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.000 because he's such a good talker, he's natural, he's charismatic, and he 566 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.519 is a guy who looks good in the suit. I will say that one 567 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.400 of the few. Okay, I agree, Yeah, no, he he 568 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.800 wears it. Well. I love MVP. I'd like to see him and 569 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.880 Paul Hayman's spar You know if as managers, Hey, did I mention that 570 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:13.599 Ricochet is on Monday night raw? Oh god, well we need a superhero. 571 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.840 Yeah I am. That didn't do anything for me. But what did 572 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.840 do something for me was aj Styles going to raw. He was the very 573 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.920 first pick of the second round, aj Styles going to raw, so he 574 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.400 went from raw traded to SmackDown with really no explanation other than hey, Dolph 575 00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:31.079 Zigler and Robert Rude got drafted to Raw and SmackDown got AJ Styles, although 576 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:35.639 Robert Rude wasn't there for like four months, So that was a terrible move 577 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.039 of whoever actually managed that trade. If this was true a true sports environment, 578 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:43.280 that person would have gotten fired on the spot. But AJ Styles goes 579 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.880 back to Raw, which is I think a good thing. I think he's 580 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.559 pretty much worn out SmackDown. Having him going back to Raw new matchups. 581 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.719 I think having him on Raw is a little more exciting than on SmackDown. 582 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:58.320 So what do you think about AJ Styles going back to Raw. Here's the 583 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.519 thing about AJ Style and what's what's weird about aj overall to me is that 584 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:09.039 I feel like he's he's too good to be in the mid card yet if 585 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:14.960 he needs some sort of character change to be in the upper card, it's 586 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.239 weird. I don't know, it's you know what he reminds me of. 587 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.760 He kind of needs a thin Balla Esque type change with him. He needs 588 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:30.639 something that makes him super legitimate again. And he's kind of fluctuating like I 589 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:35.199 don't when I see AJ Styles just even a year ago, I remember marking 590 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.480 out like I remember getting excited for his matches. Now it's just kind of 591 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.199 like, oh Aj Styles on a match on SmackDown, Oh Aj Styles on 592 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.800 match on Raw, you know what I mean, Like it doesn't have that 593 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.960 feeling anymore. And I don't know what they could do. I don't know 594 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.079 if it's a new stable. I know he tried stuff obviously, you know, 595 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.400 with machine Gun Kelly over there and but in Gallows, But you know, 596 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.840 I don't know. Man Aj Styles is one of those weird ones where 597 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:01.960 I don't think they know what they're doing with them, and I don't know 598 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.280 what I would do with them. Honestly, one of the few people I 599 00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.840 don't have a legitimate storyline in my head for. Yeah, I'm with you 600 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.559 now that you mention it. Name value still got it. But how I 601 00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.920 feel when I see him, he does he feels like he's kind of in 602 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:22.239 purgatory. Like he's a big name. You know, he's capable of more, 603 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.480 but he's just kind of floating there like, okay, so what are 604 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.480 you doing? Right? He doesn't have a clear direction and AJ Styles and 605 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.280 I can't remember the source or I would actually give credit to whoever the source 606 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:38.800 was of interviewing AJ Styles after WrestleMania when he was buried by the Undertaker in 607 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:44.119 the Boneyard match. He said that that would be a great opportunity because he 608 00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.559 was missing for a while after that on SmackDown, for his character to undergo 609 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.039 a change, because if you're buried alive, hey, that could actually change 610 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.360 your personality. It could change your perspective, you could get darker. And 611 00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:00.880 instead he just came back as the same age old AJ styles. Nothing happened. 612 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.920 And I totally agree with AJ. He needs and you that he needs 613 00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:08.639 something to keep him going, he needs to evolve. He's yeah, I 614 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.119 made this analogy too. I think last week that it's like chewing the same 615 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.760 piece of gum. It's it's like, all right, I'm ready to move 616 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:16.599 on to the next piece. That's what it is with AJ. And I 617 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:21.639 know he could be really good, but he's just the same guy, like 618 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:25.199 nothing's changing, and that's what the problem is. An evolution of his character 619 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:29.480 is what's missing. And Matt, let me just say one thing randomly here. 620 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.760 Did you notice that Otis was drafted on SmackDown but Ducker was not. 621 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.440 Yes, yes I did, yep, yep I did. But yeah, 622 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:44.360 I think, well, I Honestly, I think that Vince McMahon since he 623 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:47.880 realized that Otis could be a comedy character and saw how big his gut was, 624 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.239 and he just is playing off of him wearing four sizes too small of 625 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.679 T shirts and he loves food and all this stuff. I'm not And then 626 00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.880 let me just get right off the bat here. I am not a fan 627 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.079 of the Otis character that Vince McMahon has created. I was a fan of 628 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.480 the Otis character in Heavy Machinery before Vince got his eyes on him and realized 629 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.719 he could be a comedy relief character. But I am not a fan of 630 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:16.320 what Vince has done with him because of just to me, it's not funny. 631 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:21.559 I like Otis in the ring, but even in the ring, he 632 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.719 makes jokes out of the moves he does. He's too much of a comedy 633 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.840 character. He could be a serious dude and have a really good run as 634 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.719 a tag team with Tucker, and they never got that. They never got 635 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:37.639 a fair shake at a Champion Tag Team championship. They have never gone on 636 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.719 a big run. It's just like they can't get started. They're still stuck 637 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.480 in first gear. And now if Tucker is not on the same brand as 638 00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.440 Otis. I mean, Otis is clearly going out on his own, which 639 00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:52.000 I think Vince McMahon and Vision from the beginning, and now Mandy Rose is 640 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.079 on Raw and Otis is on SmackDown. That's fine, keep them apart. 641 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:58.360 I don't need that again. I think it's just a way to get Otis 642 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.159 as a single star and hopefully they get the money in the bank off of 643 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:05.840 him. I do not want Otis as money in the bank winner, actually 644 00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.519 cashing in and winning. I don't know. I feel like I'm hating on 645 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.960 Otis. It's just the Vince McMahon version of Otis I despise. You know. 646 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.320 Otis is kind of like just the more comedy version of Big Ee back 647 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.719 when he started as the super comedy version of the New Day. Yeah. 648 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.519 Like, honestly, that's what it is, right, and I agree. 649 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.519 I pretty much agree with every single thing you said. I will say, 650 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.840 though some of his backstage promost like when he talks man's so funny, but 651 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.719 that's you know, far and few between. Some though, There's been times 652 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.440 I go and then I'll just go, oh, it's like, uh, 653 00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:43.639 I mean, it's like ninety five percent of the time it's it's my just 654 00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.440 absolute disdain for what Vince has done to him and his vision of it, 655 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:50.400 because you know, Vince McMahon's probably sitting in Gorilla knee slapping about how funny 656 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.400 some of this stuff is, and everyone's looking around, like, Vince, 657 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.840 this is this is awful. I mean, even if you if you remember 658 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.960 the look that Corey Graves and Michael Cole gave after the segment this past week, 659 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.719 last or today, I would say last night, because I very rarely 660 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.599 do shows the same day. But if you look at that reaction that Michael 661 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.159 Cole and Corey Graves gave after the Otis segment, they just stare into the 662 00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:20.000 camera blankly for like five seconds, it is hilarious because that's exactly how I 663 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.719 feel. It's like, this is myn numbingly bad. And they obviously didn't 664 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:28.599 say that, but it was just a perfect meme to create for how badly 665 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:30.880 Vince McMahon has ruined the Osbacker. Yeah. You know, I could do 666 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:36.280 a killer Otis impersonation too. Eh. Hey, well, if you're gonna 667 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.519 tell me that you can't not do it? Oh yeah, hey, Tucky, 668 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.079 get over here. I have a match. A little bit later, 669 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.480 on tonight. Ho h, I give him some ham Oh Mandy, Oh 670 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.119 yeah, that's awesome. That is awesome. Makes it even better is more 671 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.320 believable is you're not on video, so you know, if someone jumped in 672 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.159 at that point, they're like, does he have Tucker on it? Or 673 00:43:55.199 --> 00:44:00.280 Otis on his podcast? Uh, I gave you a great idea. That's 674 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.440 awesome. No, good stuff, man, that's awesome. Did you have 675 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.320 to practice this or did you just like, how did you come across that? 676 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:09.400 Honestly, it might be the only talent I have in this entire world, 677 00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:15.400 So let's just go, well, I love it. Good stuff. 678 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.960 Yeah, I mean utilize that. I think there might be something you could 679 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.400 do with that. But yeah, so anyway, Otis, Look, I'm 680 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.480 not a fan. I hope that he has more in his tank other than 681 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.719 just being a comedic relief guy that Vince looks at and finds him funny because 682 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:31.880 he can eat food and he'll be the first one in a food fight. 683 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.719 And what he did at money in the bank, stopping at the cafeteria to 684 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.960 eat food, I mean all this stuff that's just got awful. I'm sure 685 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.679 he'll be in a gravy bowl this Thanksgiving on SmackDown. I'm sure he'll play 686 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.519 Santa Claus on the Christmas edition of SmackDown. He'll play all of the terrible 687 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:52.199 roles that are associated with his weight and all this stuff. It's just it's 688 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.440 not funny, especially the fact that he's the money in the bank briefcase holder. 689 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.360 And the last thing I'll say about otis, if this was in front 690 00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.719 of a live crowd, they would have already turned on him about two months 691 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.559 ago. I'm telling you right now, if this was in front of a 692 00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:08.199 live audience, the audience would have organically turned against him. I just feel 693 00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:13.360 that mad I gotta respect Otis though making us talk about him for the next 694 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.320 six minutes. That's pretty that's pretty good. Oh No, I had no 695 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.599 problem with the guy. I just the presentation of the character. He's yeah, 696 00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.599 so all right, Well, moving down the line here some of the 697 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.360 women's moves. Here. We had Sasha Banks dance SmackDown. We had Naomi 698 00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.920 who's in the round two, which was a kind of surprising given she's been 699 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.079 completely irrelevant for the last like six months. But hey, like I'm fine 700 00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.760 with resurrecting Naomi. She has been I think she's under the lines for sure, 701 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:43.440 and we have Bianca bel Air coming to smack down, So give me 702 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:49.679 some of those thoughts about Sasha Naomi and Bianca So Naomi being drafted in the 703 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:55.119 second round makes makes so little sense. It just they've been literally squashing her 704 00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.719 for so long. She wasn't even in the qualification match for one of the 705 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.360 title when they had the Battle Royal. I think it was a Battle Royal 706 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.360 now I don't even remember or Gauntlet. And you know, it just makes 707 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:08.920 no sense that she's pick thing. But good for her, you know, 708 00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:14.639 she must have she must have really thought for that. As for Beyonca Blaire, 709 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.079 oh man, I think they're grooming her. Oh I think they They 710 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.239 already started doing these little weird back you know, promos with her, like, 711 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.000 you know, out qualifying everybody with the athleticism and all that lovely stuff. 712 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.360 And you know, I think they're high on her. I think they're 713 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.840 very high on her. And I also think they're high on the street profits 714 00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.760 the husband there and in montes Ford, so you know, beyond Caa Blaire, 715 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.679 I think she has just an immense amount of talent. She's still very 716 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.800 raw. I think there's a lot to a lot of work to be done. 717 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.360 I think her promos are I don't know. I just I don't get 718 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:45.480 a good feeling of them yet. I don't think they're batdter per se. 719 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.679 I just don't think they're great either, but I think they're definitely there's something 720 00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:57.559 to work with their again, Sasha Banks on SmackDown another interesting choice. Did 721 00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.280 they say where Oscar went on Raw? Right? So so then you have 722 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.480 Oscar on Raw as well? And that one, that one is the weird 723 00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:07.880 one to me because she's been on Raw for god how long now, right, 724 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.000 Like, this isn't just the one time she has she ever been on 725 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.760 I don't remember now. It helped me out here, Matt, was she 726 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:19.599 on SmackDown a little while ago or not Oscar? It's been a while, 727 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.000 but she has been Yeah, yeah, it's been a while though, Yeah, 728 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:22.800 it's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah, So I 729 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.280 thought maybe they'll mover over. So the fact that she's on Monday Night Raw 730 00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.079 still it makes me wonder because I thought, you know, Bianca Baleira was 731 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:36.000 a natural eventually progression for Osca. Who knows, like what's gonna happen there, 732 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:37.679 Like, who's challenging for Oscar. I'm looking at the lineup so far, 733 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:43.159 Mandy Rose, I know Dana Brook, no, Naomie, no, 734 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.960 you know, but I will say this, that's what's said is and I 735 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.920 didn't get to be on Dana Brook and day of Brook yet, but it's 736 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.519 really bad with Dana Brook's been in WWE for how many years now, like 737 00:47:54.519 --> 00:48:00.000 three four years, for maybe five years longer maybe longer. But day Bok 738 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.079 has been there for a long time and she still has on a resume talking 739 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.239 about it being a fitness model, right, Like, she doesn't even have 740 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:12.880 any accolades on a resume that you would put in former WWE women's champion, 741 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.480 a former women's tag team champion, won a battle Royal WrestleMania. Nothing, 742 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.280 She's got all the all of her accolades that they put on. The graphic 743 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.239 for Dana Brook has to do with her former life. It has nothing to 744 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:31.559 do nothing. Bionca Blaire had more fitness promos that Dana Brook has it. 745 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.119 Beyonca has been on the roster for like how many months? Yeah, it 746 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.360 makes sense the same character continue. Sorry, no, no, I just 747 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.559 I don't know what to make of Dana Brook, fish or fowl. I 748 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.599 don't know what she is. She's kind of a weird promo. She's athletic 749 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:51.920 as hell, we know that. But I don't know what to make of 750 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.719 Dana Brook. I just I don't know Beyonca bel Air to your point, 751 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.480 Yeah, they're grooming her. I think she had an amazing showing at the 752 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.320 Royal Run, the Women's Royal Rumble this past year, if I'm not mistaken, 753 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:07.480 she was a big standout, eliminating I forget how many women and certainly 754 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.159 made a statement there. And the whole relationship with montes Ford doesn't hurt. 755 00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:17.400 The angle that she had about Delena Vega poisoning montese Board, which was I 756 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:21.320 mean that that was just to me, that was just a I mean, 757 00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.719 it got got eyeballs on her, but it was absolutely preposterous. Uh. 758 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:30.960 That whole angle was preposterous. And the pois apparently the poison is only activated 759 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.760 in montese Ford when he does the Ultimate Warrior rope shaking. Uh. If 760 00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.920 you notice that's the only time that he dropped, and and it also doesn't 761 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.400 it kind of goes and comes back like when he shook the rope, he 762 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.239 collapsed, and then he shook the rope again and collapsed. It was just 763 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.199 ridiculous. I mean that that was that was a crazy storyline. But Jack 764 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:53.039 Bauer to come you know from really from that, you know, I will 765 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:57.920 say one final combt on Dana Brook here. You know, when she came 766 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.679 out like I don't know how long goes this, maybe nine months ago, 767 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.840 maybe older, but she came out in like this kind of like weird friendship 768 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.679 storyline, and she came out in jeans and a little top, and I'm 769 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.280 like, wow, there's a new character for her. She coming out in 770 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:15.280 these jeans, you know, you know, she looks really like extra kind 771 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:16.599 of like a new gimmick, more attractive in a way. Like it just 772 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.239 mind me personally, everybody has their own opinions. Looked a little bit more 773 00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.320 attractive, a different gimmick, a different character, And I'm like, oh, 774 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:23.599 this is great. And then next week she went back and looking exactly 775 00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.440 the same and I'm like, wow, such a missed opportunity, right, 776 00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.199 And people were, believe it or not, Matt, people were getting behind 777 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.360 Dana Brook for a while there. It was like a I don't know, 778 00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:37.440 it was like a two month section where people were legitimately cheering for Dana Brook. 779 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.199 And then they did nothing with it, right, So it's just like, 780 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:43.639 what's the point, right if you're not going to do anything with her 781 00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.039 and she's gonna be the same character. It's the same thing that pissed me 782 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:52.360 off about Robert Rude coming back as the same character that left drive me nuts. 783 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:53.679 But no, No, he grew his hair out. He grew his 784 00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.559 hair out. He's different, Nat, I'm telling you, I'm screaming at 785 00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.840 my microphone. Drove me in when I saw him coming out and doing the 786 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:06.159 glorious thing. I'm like, really, that's the same ass person. You 787 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.880 couldn't even do anything different. I have no interest in him by anyways, 788 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:13.440 continuing, No, he's Robert Rude. Look, the guy is a one 789 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.239 word gimmick and it's a great word. And I actually love his interest music. 790 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.400 It's one of those interest musics entrance themes that gets stuck in your head 791 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:23.159 the whole day. Like I mean, if you think about his entrance song 792 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.320 most people are now that I'm talking about it, it gets stuck in your 793 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.760 head and is a catchy tune. Whether you admit it or not, it 794 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.920 just is. And his entrance is certainly it's good, it's really good. 795 00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.239 But outside of that one word. The guy doesn't have a whole lot to 796 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.840 do or talk about. Everything has to end with being glorious. Everything is 797 00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:45.920 glorious. He needs to move on, he needs some depth in his character. 798 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.800 And I agree they could have repackaged him there, but no, no, 799 00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.639 no, same with John Morrison. Mister Johnny Drip Drip comes back and 800 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.960 gets placed right back where he left seven years ago with WWE, with the 801 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.400 Mizz and a tag team. When ww just doesn't want to do they go, 802 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:01.360 let's just kind of put him backhere they belong, or back where they 803 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:06.599 left, and instead of evolving the character, they did it most recently with 804 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.320 a j Styles coming back with no progression after being very live. John Morrison 805 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.000 coming back in the tag team with them is after being away from w W 806 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.880 for how many years? And then they did that with well, Dean Ambrose 807 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.000 when he came back after an injury, when he got all jacked up and 808 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.440 came back and just rejoined the Shield again. I mean, and we all 809 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.920 think home, maybe they'll do something with Dean Ambrose when he returns, and 810 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:28.880 they didn't. And it's just so many examples and when they don't know what 811 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.880 to do, they just go back to what they know instead of taking a 812 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:37.039 chance. I think that would be glorious if Robert Rum left again and comes 813 00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.199 back with a Valvenus gimmick, which I thought they were gonna be doing a 814 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.760 Rick Rude type of Valvenus type gimmick. I thought, what I thought, 815 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.039 what they're gonna do that before? And I'm like, oh, this is 816 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:50.360 gonna be great. This is exactly what would work for him, and no, 817 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:52.800 you know, I just stop, man, I just we did a 818 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.360 longer show for that. It's it's frustrating. It's frustrating when you think, 819 00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.679 oh, they're gonna let's see what they do to change this up, or 820 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.920 you know, even a small evolution, and when they come back exactly the 821 00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.360 way and they left, it is disappointing. Okay, So a couple more 822 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.599 things that happened on SmackDown outside of the draft. Sasha and Bailey had their 823 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.559 match that everyone has been really talking about and have been really foreseen for the 824 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:19.400 last year is when is this going to collapse? And we finally got the 825 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:23.400 collapse and it was well done and Sasha got a small measure of revenge with 826 00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:28.480 WWE's fascination with kendo sticks lately over the last month, everyone's got a kendo 827 00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.159 stick to attack somebody, and she got a small measure of revenge. She 828 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:37.840 gets a championship opportunity, which to me, on so many levels doesn't make 829 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.480 sense that you would do it on SmackDown with really only one week to promote 830 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.800 the match that everyone's been waiting to see. And yeah, we all knew 831 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:49.119 it was going to be a screwy finish with no actual title change, but 832 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.960 the fact that they just plopped it on SmackDown, and maybe the reasoning was 833 00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.360 to tell fans, hey, well, we don't know if they're going to 834 00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:58.480 be drafted to different brands, we got to do the match. Now. 835 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.519 That wasn't ever told to me, but I would assume that's the reason. 836 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.840 And you know, the match was fine. It ended fairly in short order, 837 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:12.320 with Bailey getting disqualified on purpose and then Sasha later claiming that they're going 838 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.320 to face each other at Helena Cell. Well, who makes that match? 839 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:19.760 I mean, some of these logic, there's just there's just so like small 840 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.719 amount of logic in some of these storylines where wait a minute, how is 841 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:28.719 Sasha Banks claiming that she's gonna to face Bailey at the Helena Cell pay per 842 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:30.760 view insign Helena Cell for the championship, to Bailey agree to this. How 843 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.960 did this happen? Is Adam Pierce back there signing contracts? I don't know, 844 00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.039 Maybe I'm just nippicking, but we get them inside of a cell in 845 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:43.280 just a couple of weeks, and I would think Sasha would capture it, 846 00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:49.000 but I wouldn't bank on it pun intended. I would probably say that Bailey 847 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:54.159 retains and then Sasha maybe gets it at rumble. I don't know. I 848 00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:59.320 mean, I mean, I'm just thinking that people think that it's foregone conclusion 849 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:01.360 Sasha captures the belt here, but I don't think so. Are you in 850 00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:06.880 a position where you need to sell your home. Perhaps you're facing financial difficulties, 851 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.360 or you're facing a foreclosure, a divorce, or maybe you're just relocating 852 00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:15.400 because of retirement. 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It's so hurt my my 869 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:36.800 actual want to see these two in an actual, longer, normal match. 870 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:39.079 I did not want to see them at all until they had their final, 871 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:45.000 beautiful, beautiful match together, and now they put them on SmackDown it's just 872 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.280 like, Okay, I care still, but I care so much less. 873 00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.679 It was stupid. I don't know who writes this craft sometimes, like I'm 874 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.519 trying to think, Matt, like, let me talk to you heart to 875 00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:59.480 heart, my friend. I'm trying to think behind the scenes. Okay. 876 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:00.920 So the right goes up to Vince mcmahn and says, hey, Vince, 877 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:06.559 I got this great idea to finally put Sasha and Bailey that have a match 878 00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:07.840 together. And Vince says, oh, you know what, that sounds like 879 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.199 a great idea. Why do you want to do it? Dono holin out, 880 00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:15.119 No, let's put it on SmackDown. Let's put it on SmackDown. 881 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:16.719 Oh yeah, but didn't we build this up for the last nine months. 882 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.400 Yeah, it's okay, just put it on SmackDown. It's just a little 883 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:22.480 bit, just ease them a little bit. Oh just drives me nuts. 884 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:27.360 This drives me nuts. When when Sasha said that last week, I'm like, 885 00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.280 what do you mean your championship matches next week? What the hell are 886 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:35.280 you talking about? Why would that? That's like the equivalent, although it's 887 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.480 probably a little bit of a far stretch. When when Austin did his famous 888 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:43.119 walkout back in two thousand and three, and Vince was trying to have a 889 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:47.400 qualifier match between brock Lesser and Stone Cold with little or to no advertisement and 890 00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:50.880 looking at that as a money match and putting it on roll like, what 891 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.079 the hell are you doing? It doesn't make any sense that they could have 892 00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.360 at least even though I don't agree with it, Like I said, they 893 00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:59.760 could have at least told us, well, you know Sasha said to Uh 894 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:01.519 said to the officials, well, look, I don't know if we're going 895 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:05.480 to be on the same brand. I want a piece of Bailey before the 896 00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.800 draft happens, so we need to make this match for SmackDown. That would 897 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:13.199 have been a little bit more acceptable rather than just no explanation. And then 898 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.800 w we just throwing everything they have at this at this show, and it 899 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.159 seems like they did. Look, they had Sasha Bangs versus Bailey, the 900 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:23.679 program that they've been building for over a year on SmackDown with a non finish. 901 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:28.079 We had Lars Sullivan return, We had the draft itself, We had 902 00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.639 the Fiend compete in a match for the first time ever on SmackDown. Like 903 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:35.480 there were so many things, like what were they trying to accomplish here tonight. 904 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.280 I don't know. They threw a lot at this show thinking maybe the 905 00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.400 draft would create a lot more attention. So they're going to do other stuff 906 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.719 to maybe get the casual viewer who's tuning in for the draft to maybe stick 907 00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:50.880 around after the draft. I don't know, but yeah, I'm fine with 908 00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:55.960 this program continuing. It should continue. No, I hear no, it's 909 00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:00.079 probably louder for you than for me. I didn't hear it. Okay, 910 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:05.679 that wasn't crazy, But having Sasha in this match against Bailey, we all 911 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:07.400 knew she wasn't gonna win, and I'm looking forward to the hell in a 912 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.159 Cell match. I think it's deserving of the cell, at least there's that. 913 00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.639 I'm not a fan of matches that just gets stuck in there because it's 914 00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.159 part of the pay per view schedule. I think this matches is deserving of 915 00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:21.119 inside the cell, given what's happened and what Bailey's done to Sasha. But 916 00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:23.159 do you see Sasha capturing the belt here or do you think they wait a 917 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:27.760 little longer? No, they wait a little bit longer. Let's let's extend 918 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.320 it. Let's extend it a little bit longer. I do want to ask 919 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.039 you, Matt personally, what do you think about having three Hell in the 920 00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:38.119 Cell matches? This is let me say this, if if you've heard movefour, 921 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:44.440 I know that to you every single week, my friends, or every 922 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:49.039 I more than once a week, Yeah, then then you might get it. 923 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.320 The same thing that I've said before, because I've been very consistent about 924 00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:57.159 this. The fact that WWE puts in a match that is so special or 925 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.719 was once so special, and it's meant so much as just part of the 926 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:05.480 pay per view schedule and whatever matches are happening at that time, whatever programs 927 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:07.760 are happening at that time, we'll just throw them in the cell is such 928 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.639 a disgrace to the hell in a Cell match of what it meant the hell 929 01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.280 in a Cell match, Think about how awesome it was. And yes, 930 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.199 back when Shawn Michaels faced the Undertaker in ninety seven at Bad Blood, exactly 931 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.039 what twenty three years ago it happened in October, which was the very first 932 01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:29.000 match I ever saw as a wrestling fan at twelve years old. So that 933 01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:32.320 felt so damn special. Triple H versus Mick Foley felt so special. Mick 934 01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:37.320 Foley versus the Undertaker in nineteen ninety eight, the famous toss off the cell 935 01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:43.000 felt very special. Mick Foley got retired inside the cell against Triple H in 936 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:46.119 that very match, Shawn Michaels versus Triple H. I think it was actually 937 01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:51.639 at another Bad Blood in two thousand and three. There have been some really 938 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.840 good moments and programs deserving of the cell, and yet WWE takes that and 939 01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.639 goes, oh, well, gimmick pay per view. Sell Man, No, 940 01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.639 they don't. I don't believe that fans want to see a gimmick match 941 01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.039 that is not deserving of the gimmick. Like if a program is deserving of 942 01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:10.239 the cell, which means the program has been so damn intense it is, 943 01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:15.639 it's so damn personal. They can't contain these women or men, and it's 944 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.360 they need to be locked inside the cell. To me, it would mean 945 01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.400 so much more than just building it into the damn schedule just because they want 946 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:28.079 to have a cute little gimmick pay per view every single year. I think 947 01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:31.519 it's awful and it really detracts from what the hell in a cell match used 948 01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:35.599 to mean when it was special, when it didn't happen a whole lot and 949 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.360 only programs that were deserving of the cell got it. Yeah, And you 950 01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.079 know what, I'm gonna give Shane o'mack a little bit of love too, 951 01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:45.519 man, because when he came back and he jumped off that top of the 952 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:49.599 thing. I remember that moment. I'm gonna remember that moment until I'm dead. 953 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:53.039 It was amazing, and that was a great spot by Shane and the 954 01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:57.239 fact that he did at his age are all just everything that went around that 955 01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.920 whole storyline. I thought that was great, So I think he deserves the 956 01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.719 little bit of love on top of it as well. But I agree with 957 01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:07.760 you completely wholeheartedly. Man. It's just it's too much like Hell in the 958 01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.599 Cell in my personal opinion, should be one match. One match on the 959 01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:15.719 card because it's a special team match. It's like Elimination Chamber in a way, 960 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:20.159 but like a lot more important supposed to be anyway, And you know, 961 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.920 at least Elimination Chamber you can kind of do a female version, a 962 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.039 male version of it. But again, it's the end of the show type 963 01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:28.760 big match, right, and the Hell in the Cell it's what it's supposed 964 01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:34.000 to be, supposed to be a big conclusion to a massive heated feud and 965 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.320 that's that's what it's supposed to be. And the fact that there's so many 966 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:39.360 of them, Like, I know what they're gonna do. What one's gonna 967 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:44.039 jump off one match, the other one's gonna be just inside it the whole 968 01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:45.960 time, and the other one's gonna be outside. Maybe they'll fight on top 969 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:49.320 of it, you know, like they're gonna they're gonna mix it up. 970 01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.519 But the point is, it's just I don't want to see it. I 971 01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:54.239 want to see one match and it's not gonna happen. It's gonna be three 972 01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:58.320 of them, and and I think it does hurt. I think it should 973 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:00.800 have been honestly, Sasha Bailey if they need didn't do this the whole you 974 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:05.639 know, the whole SmackDown garbage thing that they did. So I don't know, 975 01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.079 man, I don't know. I'm more frustrated than I thought I was 976 01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:09.960 gonna be, Matt, But what did you do to me? Man? 977 01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.760 And and well let me get this out of the way too, Like, 978 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.679 but the hell in a cell structure itself? Are they just gonna keep it 979 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:20.360 painted red? I mean, I think is that what they're really so? 980 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:23.320 Yeah, I actually to me that that also kind of cutes it up like 981 01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:27.400 it's it. Don't don't try to paint it like leave it alone. To 982 01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:31.679 me, the this that that steel mesh look is a much more barbaric and 983 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:36.760 sinister look than the dressing it up with lipstick. I mean, that's essentially 984 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:37.920 what they've done. I know, there's it's all red. It's supposed to 985 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:40.760 represent blood. Well, here's the thing, you guys, don't use. 986 01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:46.000 Blood never happens. And how somebody's skull gets rammed into steel time after time 987 01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:50.760 after time and nobody bleeds is also like a little bit hey, take me 988 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.000 out of the moment. I mean, that's it. That's what that makes 989 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.599 me feel like. And is that what it does? Is that actually it 990 01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.639 They made it red because it's supposed to represent blood. Well, I can't 991 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:03.079 tell me another reason why it would be red. I mean, I don't 992 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.960 know. No fitz mcma turns the lights red when the Fiend had matches for 993 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.599 a while. At least that made a little more sense because it's a specialty 994 01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.599 match. But like, I don't want to see it red. I don't 995 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.320 think of anything I thought it was because oh it's a Monday NIGHTIRW match or 996 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:23.639 something no, no, no, no no, because a lot of times 997 01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:27.760 I remember their logos for like the Hendle Cell pay per view, especially like 998 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:30.880 bad Blood or whenever the Helena Saw match was taking place, it would be 999 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.679 like drops of blood in the logo or whatever like. And how many times 1000 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:38.559 in actual matches that you know, prior to the PG era from two thousand 1001 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:43.280 and seven and backwards were a lot of Helena Sell matches, almost every single 1002 01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.159 one had blood in it. And so when I see Helena Cell, I 1003 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:48.119 still am disappointed when I don't see color. And I'm not saying that somebody 1004 01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.239 should cut themselves and you know, put themselves at risk or anything like that, 1005 01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:55.559 but there are times that I really do miss blood. I mean there 1006 01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:57.880 are types. I got this story of Buddy, I looked it up here 1007 01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:03.760 we go. It's because WWE decided to jazz up to sell by making it 1008 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:10.519 read, to make it look more evil and also to sell more merchandise. 1009 01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:14.639 Told you, they just essentially made it cute. They just they did. 1010 01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.440 They put makeup on it, That's what they did. I told you. 1011 01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.800 It's just I don't know. I don't need to I don't need to need 1012 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:23.760 the need for it is just not there. I wasn't looking at the mesh 1013 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.559 going, oh my god, I need Can they just paint this damn thing? 1014 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.840 You know what I mean? Did anybody say that that they're so marketing 1015 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.760 gimmicky like I When they did that, it looks I don't know. It 1016 01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:36.760 just takes away from it on top of what they've already done making it a 1017 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:40.519 part of the pay per view schedule. I have such a problem with the 1018 01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.079 Hell and to Cell pay per view because the Heleno cell match itself is so 1019 01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:45.079 near and dear to my heart. It got me into wrestling. So there's 1020 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:48.599 also that part of it personally, the match itself got me into wrestling, 1021 01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:53.599 but also because what it used to mean there's no meaning to it anymore. 1022 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.400 It's just it's just there and you know, whatever's going on, stick them 1023 01:05:56.440 --> 01:06:00.719 in. It's it's ridiculous. It's I and I know the marketing department's going, 1024 01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:02.199 well, hell on a selling people know what it is. It's a 1025 01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:05.480 great way to sell. No, it's not. Because to me, when 1026 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.639 you have all these gimmicks, you have the tlcs, you have the hell 1027 01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.119 of Cells, you have elimination chamber, and don't get me wrong, sometimes 1028 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.599 they're worth they're worth the matches, they're worth the program, the story, 1029 01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:19.440 and absolutely, I'm not saying every time it's terrible, but I think it's 1030 01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:27.199 also a bandage or a deodorant for really a lack of good storytelling to have 1031 01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.719 gimmicks in matches when they know that the story is not great. But maybe 1032 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.079 if we do this or add chairs or add tables or add you know whatever, 1033 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:38.960 that it'll cover some of the terrible storytelling that we've had. To me, 1034 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:43.719 great storytelling, characters that I care about in a storyline and a personal 1035 01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.159 feud or over a championship that makes sense, and intriguing promos. That is 1036 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.639 what makes pro wrestling great. This one makes TV grade, It's what makes 1037 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:54.599 movies great. You don't necessarily have to have violence to make it great or 1038 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:58.760 gimmicks to make it great. That to me is a really an admission, 1039 01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:01.880 kind of a under lying ole mission or admission. I should say that you 1040 01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:06.639 cannot tell a story properly and you have to add these superficial items to your 1041 01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:11.639 story to make it cover the lack of youth being able to tell a story. 1042 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.199 If that makes sense. Okay, I'm getting ramped up. It's just 1043 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:16.119 take it one step further. Why don't they make it pink one a New 1044 01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:19.519 Day matches have little unicorns on top of it, then throwing little pancakes on 1045 01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:23.199 the ground. I could I could see something like that happening in the future. 1046 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:26.039 I'm really trying to keep this a PG show. I'm really trying, 1047 01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:29.679 like I'm really doing a great job. I feel it's getting me, that's 1048 01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:31.920 getting me heated. But the sad thing is as absurd as it sounds. 1049 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:34.960 I could actually see something like that happening where they they like paint it like 1050 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:38.960 a rainbow, right, like they have the whole colors of the rainbow painted 1051 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:40.840 on the cell. I mean, I could actually see that, or like 1052 01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:45.239 pancakes on a pole match or something. Oh god, uh yeah, all 1053 01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:47.880 right, Well we have the Fiend versus Kevin Owens on SmackDown. That was 1054 01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.079 the final thing that I wanted to ask you about the Fiend from very first 1055 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:56.960 match on SmackDown. They threw everything at this at this show and Kevin Owens 1056 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:02.079 lose this and that to me was actually sadly predictable. The Fiend takes punishment 1057 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:05.480 and his whole gimmick is no selling like that is the Fiends gimmick. I 1058 01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:10.079 just no selling. That's what he does to me, to a really to 1059 01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:14.559 a fault. I think there's there's no selling, or I'm sorry, there's 1060 01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:17.960 there's a I guess a lesser degree of selling, and then there's no selling. 1061 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:23.439 When you know sell, it exposes the business like crazily. I mean 1062 01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.920 like it just takes me out of the moment because I don't want somebody to 1063 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.239 know sell. I want it to be kind of like Undertaker no Cell where 1064 01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.199 maybe he gets hit with a finish and he lays there and you're wondering if 1065 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:35.720 he's gonna get up, but at least he's selling it in those moments, 1066 01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:39.520 and then he just sits up. And I'm not saying he needs to be 1067 01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:44.199 the Undertaker, but he no sells it to the point of really not believability. 1068 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.239 I love the Fiend character, Don't get me wrong. I love the 1069 01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:51.119 Fiend character. There was It was one of the best inventions from bray White's 1070 01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:56.439 mind that ww has had in ten years. And the fact that he has 1071 01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:00.159 really three gimmicks to go to with his swamp cult leader and just pray Wyatt 1072 01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:04.840 the children's fun house host is also really great. I mean bray Wyatt has 1073 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:10.279 really done an awesome job. But the Fiend character with the no cell is 1074 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.000 it's a little bit much. Kevin Owens is the latest victim. He hits 1075 01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.520 a stunner that he no sould and it was kind of a cool ending. 1076 01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:21.359 I liked it, but it also diminished the stunner that he used as a 1077 01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:28.399 finish and he gets choked out using the mandible claw and the Fiend wins and 1078 01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:31.960 then joins Alexa Bliss. Why really loving lately with her acting and joining the 1079 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.680 Fiend, And I'm wondering where that's going. But what did you think about 1080 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:39.039 this match in the finish? And Alexa Bliss so, Matt, it might 1081 01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:43.279 be maybe the first time ever I actually disagree with you. I'm I love 1082 01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.800 the no selling as long as it's not no selling finishers left and right. 1083 01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:50.159 If he knows cells moves left and right, I am perfectly fine with it. 1084 01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:55.000 I think it makes him look more special. I honestly, every time 1085 01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:58.520 I see him no sell or anything, I have a moment that makes me 1086 01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.000 smile and I don't know why. I don't know, I don't know what 1087 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.239 it is. Specifically, I think it makes sense with this character because he's 1088 01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:06.920 such a supernatural character. But again, he got hurt really bad with that 1089 01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:12.439 botch Jackhammer finished Goldberg match. Still to this day, I still feel like 1090 01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:15.720 they need to have a rematch and he has to destroy him to just to 1091 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.319 make me kind of knock it over that ever again. But I just I 1092 01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:23.319 don't like when he knows sells finishers because I feel like a finisher should have 1093 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:28.439 impact. But when he knows sells a punch or no sells a belody slam 1094 01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:31.560 or a you know, a souplex, that's fine because it just shows to 1095 01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:38.239 everybody, Okay, this guy is not normal. He's definitely special. And 1096 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.119 I don't feel like because remember when when when they're selling it, it's not 1097 01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:45.399 like they're saying, oh, he doesn't have any feelings or when it comes 1098 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:46.680 to like it doesn't have any pain, because when he does get hit and 1099 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:49.279 he's like, oh the fiend is down, Oh he's back up, I 1100 01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:54.479 think it's more like he suppresses the pain and eventually if he does lose, 1101 01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:57.479 it kind of comes all out at once. I think that's kind of what 1102 01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:00.239 it is. And I do like when he picks sell right after he loses 1103 01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:03.680 a match, kind of right away because it makes it seem a little stronger 1104 01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:06.960 as well. So you know, maybe the first thing I disagree with you, 1105 01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:11.279 Matt, Holy crap man, what's going on? Well, it's bound 1106 01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:15.079 to happen. That's fine. No, I'm glad. I'm glad. I 1107 01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.079 you know, I see where you're coming from. I do understand it that 1108 01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:24.520 that's part of the character, but it's also the character itself. Is Look, 1109 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:27.880 the mask is the center of that character. The mask was so well 1110 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:32.600 done. It really it's an evil clown slash American horror story if anyone's into 1111 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:39.439 that kind of throwback mask. And I apparently the mask was made by a 1112 01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:44.359 movie some kind of movie guy that did masks for horror horror movies. I 1113 01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:45.920 can't I can't put my finger on exactly who it was, but somebody who 1114 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:50.359 had done masks for horror movies. He actually pray why I contacted this man? 1115 01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:53.359 I wish I had the name to get his mask done. It was 1116 01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:55.399 done professionally. I mean he didn't just go to like, you know, 1117 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.640 Spirit Halloween down the road and and pick up a mask. I mean, 1118 01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.640 it was really well done, really does help the character. You don't see 1119 01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:10.439 the fiend of los there you go, and I like the fact that he 1120 01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:13.359 is a special character. You don't see him a lot. That's great. 1121 01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:15.880 I don't want to see him a lot. And he's never had a match 1122 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:18.880 on SmackDown. That that is true, and that is important that he didn't. 1123 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:26.119 But the no selling. Look, he actually sold a clothes line more 1124 01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:29.399 than he did the stunner, which he sold like completely, That didn't sell 1125 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:31.079 it at all. I mean, he took the stunner and there was no 1126 01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:34.680 laying there maybe he's out. It was just take the stunner and you know, 1127 01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:38.520 I'm holding onto you with the mannible claw, which is a cool finish, 1128 01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:42.640 but again it does it diminishes it. And I mean, look back 1129 01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:45.720 no further than exactly a year ago at the Hell on a solid pay per 1130 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.439 view with Seth Rewinds, which I keep recalling, But to me, that 1131 01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:56.000 was such a telling match with how WWE views this character. You know that, 1132 01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:59.560 hey, he could take anything. He took how many stomps? So 1133 01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:01.159 if you're talking about not liking the fact that he didn't sell a finisher, 1134 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.279 you couldn't have liked that match with Seth Rollins. No selling, like I 1135 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:09.920 don't know how many stomps sledgehammers, chairs, to the to the skull. 1136 01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:13.520 I mean it was a brutal match that I think I remember the fans booing 1137 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:17.359 the hell out of it because it did so much damage to the believability, 1138 01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:21.039 the plausibility, the emotional investment was gone because it was like, this is 1139 01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:25.439 just this is child's play stuff, not in terms of physicality, but in 1140 01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.680 terms of like, hey, really, I mean I'm watching, you know, 1141 01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:31.159 like a child's show in terms of trying to believe what's actually happening, 1142 01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:34.920 Like this is this is just beyond anything anyone can get into. Hurts Seth 1143 01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:40.840 time Ian Seth Rowlands was already struggling as a babyface. He was weird on 1144 01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:43.720 camera with Becky Lynch. Yeah, they have an obviously real life romance, 1145 01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:45.960 but it didn't translate very well on camera. I never thought he fit a 1146 01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:50.479 baby face roll very well. He has that kind of like just annoyingly kind 1147 01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:55.840 of just whiny voice just as a natural human being. There's just the way 1148 01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:58.239 he is. He's got a face that you kind of want to punch. 1149 01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:00.800 And I mean that in the best way, Like he has got a very 1150 01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:04.880 unlikable face and voice, and I don't mean that disrespectfully. I mean it 1151 01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:08.560 in a way that is great for him to be a heel, and he's 1152 01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:10.840 done that, and he always feels more natural as a heal, kind of 1153 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:13.359 like Charlotte, who I think feels way more natural as a heel too. 1154 01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:16.359 When they try to turn her baby face, it's never comfortable. So yeah, 1155 01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:18.560 to me, I just called back that hell in a Cell match from 1156 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:21.279 last year, and I'm like ugh, and then ever since then, it's 1157 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:25.760 no cell, no cell, no cell, no cell. So like, 1158 01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:28.880 I don't I don't know what the endgame is for this, Like, is 1159 01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:31.520 he just gonna go undefeated forever? Is does he have a kryptonite? Is 1160 01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:36.359 there something right? He got Goldberg? Oh yeah, oh god, that's 1161 01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:41.119 right Goldberg. God, I placed that out of my mind. I think 1162 01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:45.039 I just bringing it back. Don't you want I know it's God, I 1163 01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:46.239 know it's gonna sound stupid, but like, don't you want to see him 1164 01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:51.279 fight again just so he can wash Goldberg in like five seconds? And then 1165 01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:57.399 I would just be like, okay, okay, thank you. A right 1166 01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:00.399 needs a wrong needs to be righted. Yes, the universe needs to go 1167 01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.520 back in balance. That was awful. Uh yeah, that was terrible and 1168 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:09.720 I'd forgotten about that just because I was just I watched that and I'm just 1169 01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:13.479 like, that didn't just happen right like they really. And that's where I 1170 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:18.800 don't like legacy stars coming back, really taking out very decisively, taking out 1171 01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:21.479 a rising star, one of the biggest, hottest acts, one of the 1172 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:26.399 most original acts that has come across Dobuto. You e in a decade and 1173 01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.880 you just squashed him with a guy that's going to be gone in a month. 1174 01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:31.119 I mean it just it made no sense at all. And I think, 1175 01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:34.680 uh, you know, it's where fans were there. Fans were there 1176 01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:38.760 for that, so and Matt, I don't need to plug my fing, 1177 01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:41.319 but I think people were so pissed. I think I hit like two hundred 1178 01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:45.439 thousand views on that one video. Did you people were pissed? Oh yeah, 1179 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:47.560 Oh yeah, that was a monster. That's one of my monsters out 1180 01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:51.479 there. Oh god, Well, hey, no, you're more than willing 1181 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:57.000 to or able to plug anytime you want. This is I'm just happy to 1182 01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:59.359 be here. Well, guys, how about this, I'll give you a 1183 01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:02.960 free pug now go check it out. I'm assuming the title is probably something 1184 01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:08.039 along the lines of Goldberg Beats the Fiend or something like that, something like 1185 01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:10.039 that. I'll have to go back and take a look. If you can 1186 01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:13.239 talk for another fifteen seconds. Yeah, no, no, that's fine, 1187 01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:15.439 So you go and search. Well I just rant about that. I mean 1188 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:19.760 it was Goldberg Beats the Fiend fan rant. There you go, there go. 1189 01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:23.720 Yeah, no, you do have those monster views out there, and 1190 01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.319 I noticed that that is one of them. So I do. Okay, 1191 01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:29.079 man, thanks buddy, No, no, no problem. So that's all 1192 01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:31.159 I had for SmackDown. I know that there's some other things that happen in 1193 01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:35.840 the draft, but is there anything else that you wanted to maybe touch on 1194 01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:39.560 that we didn't. Yeah. I just want to say a big thank you 1195 01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:43.479 to you. They're having me on the show again. I absolutely love doing 1196 01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:45.319 this with you. It's always a pleasure to be on. I can be 1197 01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:48.399 on as much as you want, whenever you want, as long as my 1198 01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:53.920 wife doesn't divorce me for it, and if I have enough time throughout my 1199 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:58.119 day to go do something. But honestly, it's always a blast. I 1200 01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.199 think you're one of the more respectful and honestly one of the best podcast people 1201 01:17:01.199 --> 01:17:05.760 I have ever worked with, And honestly, now ever doing collaborations with and 1202 01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:10.880 personally, I would love to have you not just on my show, but 1203 01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.680 you know, us working together in the future even more once in a while, 1204 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.680 because I think we have a really good chemistry together and I love the 1205 01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:20.199 work you do. Buddy. No, I really appreciate that. That was 1206 01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:24.039 a that hell was a hell of a promo to put me over. So 1207 01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:27.239 I appreciate that. I mean, I think Ricochet could probably do a better 1208 01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:30.079 one. I think, yeah, No, I mean I'm no superhero, 1209 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:34.199 but probably Yeah. No, I really do appreciate that. And you know, 1210 01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:38.000 it's always it's always great to have you on because you add an energy 1211 01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:43.039 to the show that is very unique. I mean, I definitely enjoy especially 1212 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.760 your videos. I mean some of your videos are just hilarious. Like You'll 1213 01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:49.600 start out very quiet and you'll like do various posts. You just kind of 1214 01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:55.079 like staring at the TV. Then you just like explode on something. So 1215 01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:58.079 it really matters what I'm talking about, you know. Yeah, if a 1216 01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:01.239 happy mood, I'll just do like the nice put someone over like crazy, 1217 01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:06.359 and then I see Keith Lee's or there I listen to and then I just 1218 01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:10.560 lose it. You lost your mind that was really funny. I mean some 1219 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:13.079 of them, Like I end up laughing a lot of the time because and 1220 01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.760 the thing is, like, what's great is in everyone listening. It's not 1221 01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:18.560 an act like you're not You're not in there trying to like pretend or like 1222 01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:24.119 put on some kind of facade, Like you're just naturally reacting to what you're 1223 01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:27.920 seeing. And it's just that's what makes it great. Yeah, And honestly, 1224 01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:32.439 honestly, guys like I've I've always like talked about like respect and positivity. 1225 01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.760 I believe that positive networking is something we need to have more in this 1226 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:40.560 world. Good energy and everything like that. And uh, I feel like 1227 01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:43.760 if you're if you have a good vibe about yourself and you're respectful, Like, 1228 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:45.000 yeah, I do botch videos and stuff like that where it's you know, 1229 01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.479 they laugh about mistakes and stuff like that, but like I do it 1230 01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:51.000 in a comedy parody style like a stand up comedian. Like it's not it's 1231 01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.760 not anything like negative. It's just kind of making people laugh. You make 1232 01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:57.159 people smile, you know, make some people have a good day or bad 1233 01:18:57.199 --> 01:18:59.960 day or whatever, just makes some like appreciate. I think that's what you 1234 01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:02.000 got. A good vibe in this podcast as well, because you're very honest, 1235 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.680 You're very genuine about what your opinions are, and I think people really 1236 01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:08.920 respect that. No, that's exactly what we're going for. You know. 1237 01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:11.119 You hear a lot of other podcasts, and look, I'm not putting down 1238 01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:14.920 another podcasts because I listen to other wrestling podcasts, Like, I respect the 1239 01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:16.760 whole wrestling community. And it's not like I'm competing with anybody. I think 1240 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:19.720 we're all just kind of one big, one big family. But we really 1241 01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:23.840 are, whether people think that or not. We all love wrestling, right, 1242 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:26.079 So, like that's why we're here. You love wrestling because you have 1243 01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.359 a YouTube channel doing it. I have a podcast that I love and it's 1244 01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:31.359 all about wrestling because I love it. So yeah, I mean, I 1245 01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.359 just try to be honest about things. I don't try to put on an 1246 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:38.399 act. I've always been honest and like you said, making people laugh, 1247 01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:42.720 making people feel good, and god dang do we need that today? I 1248 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.239 mean, like with everything going on and look out, there's an election coming 1249 01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:47.560 up, and who the hell knows what the results or that are gonna be, 1250 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.479 and if it sparks more problems in the world, So It is an 1251 01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:57.560 escape from your everyday stuff that whatever you're going through, work, relationships, 1252 01:19:57.640 --> 01:20:00.720 whatever, this is. That's what this is is to talk. It's really, 1253 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:03.199 as I call it, playing in the sandbox. Like we're talking about 1254 01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:05.279 stuff that doesn't really matter, but it's a hell of a lot of fun 1255 01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:10.199 to get into. Oh Rick Achet not being able to cut a promo that 1256 01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:15.119 that matters? Man, Well, that that does matter? Yeah, no, 1257 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:18.680 yeah, maybe maybe we should create a hashtag like instead of like BLM, 1258 01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:21.560 we could we could create like ricochet matters and create like you know, 1259 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:28.439 banners and stuff because yeah, yeah, oh that's a that's a big time 1260 01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:31.199 problem waiting to happen. But uh yeah, ricochet. He was rafted in 1261 01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:34.720 the third round, along with j u So, Mandy Rose, and Dominic 1262 01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:41.279 and Ray. He was drafted in the third round. He would be one 1263 01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:45.319 of those guys in a real draft where he would be categorized under players to 1264 01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:49.239 be named later. That's what he would be in. And and then I 1265 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:51.840 can't believe he's in the third round. He doesn't deserve to be in the 1266 01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:56.159 thirteenth round and just based on what they've done with him. So sorry, 1267 01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:58.880 Matt, I know this is going long back. You know, it's not 1268 01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:00.560 that I really it's not that I hate Ricochet. I think he's actually a 1269 01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:05.319 pretty awesome, genuine guy from everything I've heard. But he can't cut a 1270 01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:10.039 promo, turn him heel or give him a manager. For the love of 1271 01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:13.680 god, he's so talented in the rig. Agree, how much do you 1272 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:16.319 need to see out of him to know that he can't cut a promo? 1273 01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:19.960 Is he's not getting better? It's been a year, Like, do something 1274 01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:24.800 different. I don't know. Maybe they'll just go with he does his talking 1275 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:27.960 in the ring. Okay, maybe he just just maybe he just stops trying 1276 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:30.920 it all together and just does in ring, because that's when everyone looks at 1277 01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.520 Ricochet four is in ring, like, hey, four to fifty Splash's it's 1278 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:39.560 how many cool reversals he can do. He's very ww has centered his character 1279 01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:43.960 around his athleticism. That's what you look at. Ricochet four is his athleticism 1280 01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:46.640 period, and they need to do something more. You're right, yeah, 1281 01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:51.479 but hey, this has been a blast, So everybody listen, go check 1282 01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:54.800 out the box guy on YouTube. I've been plugging him for weeks. You 1283 01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.720 guys know that if you haven't already, what are you doing. Go do 1284 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.680 it now, I trust me you will. You will be very glad that 1285 01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.840 you did. It's totally free to do so, uh and it will. 1286 01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:08.399 Yeah, no, it is. Well, I've got a special promo code 1287 01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:13.359 that I gave my my listeners that yeah yeah, so uh so yeah, 1288 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:16.239 don't uh don't don't spread that around and anybody who's listening all my little normal 1289 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:20.479 listeners don't uh don't tell anybody else what we did. Uh so check them 1290 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:25.520 out on YouTube. A lot of fun, authentic and just a blast to 1291 01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.920 watch. So uh hey, like you said, we need to do this 1292 01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:30.199 more often than just you know, every two months, it seems like because 1293 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:33.600 the last time was Summer Slam, so this needs to happen again for sure. 1294 01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:38.640 Sometimes tomorrow man, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, okay, 1295 01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:44.720 in the middle of my move let's dark man yeah yeah yeah. No, 1296 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:46.439 like I said, I'm moving tomorrow, I'm gonna be so exhausted by 1297 01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:48.199 the end of the day and not even know what my name is. So 1298 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:53.079 all right, well, hey, we'll uh well, we'll be in touch 1299 01:22:53.439 --> 01:23:00.520 and you enjoy your evening. You take care of you two. Thanks for 1300 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:06.000 listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite podcast app 1301 01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:13.119 so you don't miss a show, or head to wwepodcast dot com and for 1302 01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:18.119 all of these shows add free head over to Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. 1303 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:21.760 Until then, we'll see you next time.