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The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios
Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around

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the world. It's time for another
edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast.

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I hope this finds you well.
As we record on this Monday afternoon,

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February the twenty six, shortly after
one pm Eastern time. We have a

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great guest standing by from the great
state of Texas will be joining us in

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just a moment before we kick things
off. Just a couple of quick reminders,

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please do stop by the website,
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chat room, say hello and get to

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you have any questions, comments,
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Again, it is the flat earth
Files at gmail dot com. Without

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any further ado, let's bring our
guests on the show today. Joining us

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again from Texas is Sean Sean.
How are you doing today, sir great

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George. Thank you so much for
having me. I tell you this is

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this, This show is God send
to me. It's been a light in

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the fog. Youmail and just a
cozy little corner I can, you know,

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check out and and get to at
least once or twice a week.

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And I really shape the work you're
doing and appreciate you having me here.

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Absolutely, it's great to have you. And really the show is all about

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our guests. They're the ones who
have really I think helped people realize.

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Around the world, and I mean
around the world. We get emails from

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every continent except for Antarctica, but
that's another story. But it's I think

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the one thing that really helps people
understand is I'm not the only one who

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thinks like this, because in all
of our own little worlds, in the

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little circles, we have very few
people maybe in rare instances, but very

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few people have you know, a
bunch of people they can sit down and

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have these type of conversations. So
I think it is a little therapeutic for

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people to understand that there are like
minded people around the world. Absolutely,

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I mean, that's just it.
It's not a not an easy conversation just

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to drop, you know, small
talk. Hey how about that flat earth?

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You know? And you know,
I've been listening to your shows.

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I've seen, you know, the
different ways that maybe segue. Interesting way

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these CODs. So but you know, uh, I think people starting to

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awaken. I think they're seeing more. I won't our most recent mood landing.

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I'm sure you heard about that right
the other night. Yeah, the

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one where they were told that they
landed on the moon and they all collapsed.

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No, no video, no,
not thinking, but a nice little

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animation, you know, uh for
ten second animation. So but uh,

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it's it stabs me. And it's
just like, why don't she again?

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Once you go flat, you never
go back, so you know, you

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you just the things just pop out
to you. I mean the things that

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you would have just passed by or
not even give, you know, a

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second thought to now just stand out
like you know, it's it's amazing.

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Yeah, before we get too deep
into the conversation, once you go ahead

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and take a few minutes and introduce
yourself to the audience. Absolutely, Well,

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my name. You know, I
grew up here in Texas. I've

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I spent a lot of time between
here in Dallas. I you know,

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again, we're kind of the same
age. We were talking about that earlier,

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you know gen X Yeah, so
and growing up with the with the

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you know, we moved around a
lot, and so that sort of gave

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me, you know, kind I
kind of always had a wonder loss.

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I was always wondering, you know, what's around the corner, what's on

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the other side of the mountain,
and uh, just better to have new

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experiences, go new, because you
know, I the beach Carawak pretty much,

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you know, I you know,
I read the on the Road and

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Dharma Bums and and it was It's
kind of got me wanting to go live

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in the Northwest. So out of
college I went and I worked up in

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Yellowstone National Park. Oh wow,
uh for two stay and what great grade

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aher ants and just you know,
could go up to both men, go

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down, you know, all over
Montangna uh, and just have that experience

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and worked with people. And I
was a food production ger, so worked

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within the concessions of Yellowstone National Park
and you'd wake up, you'd have a

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bison sleeping on your front port.
So it just you know, continued to

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sort of travel around the Northwest area, Seattle of Portland, Idaho, just

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to get that area. Followed a
girl finally to Cincinnati, opened up a

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couple of Mexican restaurants there. I
worked for a company called Don Pablo's.

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Did that for a few years and
just got tired of the food industry,

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got in decided to get into real
estate. That's when I moved back to

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Austin and did commercial real estate for
about five years and really just got tired

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of the suit and tie job and
wanted to have a different experience. I

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was just kind of looking on the
internet one day and I said in Paradise

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and it was from a resort in
Portal in Mexico, And I got on

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an Apple vacation, flew down there
for three days, decided that's it,

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I'm moving to Mexico where and pretty
much didn't come back to the States for

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twenty years. So I uh,
I lived down there were Mexican girl.

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We uh had a lot of just
awesome experiences, you know. I mean

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I could tell you all about Mexico, goggling all the way down to even

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Pull you know, seeing all the
ruins down there, you know, Juana

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Juanto, just there's just so many
beautiful places that people don't see in Mexico

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and just really having you know,
again a different type of experience, different

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culture was great. And then eventually
moved to Costa Rica. Uh kind of

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influence. So he did like the
idea that you couldn't actually own property in

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Costa Rica. So that's when he
moved out to Costa Rica. And then

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I went down there and I lived
there about ten years and had some pretty

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interesting experiences as well. That's are
you there, Yeah, yeah, you're

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doing just fine. That's just an
incredible Listen to your story. A couple

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of things. A Number one,
you spent the first uh after you know,

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your time in Yellowstone in the food
industry. The food industry is no

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joke. You work hard and long
hours in that business. It was it

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was eighty or weeks. I mean
my waiters were making more money than me

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as a min Sure, you know
I had day off. I mean it

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was it was. I mean I
probably should have called Osha or something.

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I don't know, but it was
pretty bad. But yeah, I mean

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it's yeah, it's it's it's your
your NonStop you know, and uh,

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it's great. It's a I think
career if you're young, you know,

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but after you get started getting closer
to thirties, you're like, there's got

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to be something better out there.
And that's kind of when I got into

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real estate. I've pretty much been
in real estate and full some old career.

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So so you spent twenty years in
Mexico, Mexico. What was the

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decision you made to leave there after
twenty years? Well, it's actually about

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ten years in Mexico in about ten
years in Costa Rica. So it's kind

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of oh, got gotcha twenty years
outside the country. Well, you know,

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I get it. It's it's my
main reason for coming back from Costa

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Rica was COVID. There was there
was a there was just no tourism happening

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there, and that's all my this
was based on that. I worked at

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a place where we sold property,
you know, anywhere from sixty thousand dollars

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to three hundred thousand dollars and then
we'd actually build a house for you as

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well. And they were all beautiful
ocean views down in a place called Masara,

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which was it was cool as an
adventure. I mean, it was

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the coolest job I ever had because
people we'd fly people in on a and

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we'd put them in a well,
they'd have a chef, you know,

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and all that was there was to
either serve or go to do yoga.

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And uh, it's so then come
down there for that and then you know,

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we would wide and dine them and
it was about a three day sail

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and then finally you know, he
put them on a boat. They would

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go see the dolphin and the sea
turtles and it was just, you know,

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a phenomenal appearance. You know,
in that last day it let You're

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like, so that's where you kind
of asked, that's the question. You're

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ready to buy now? And if
they add the money, ugu sleep would

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it would buy something there? You
know nice? But we would, we

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would cross rivers and I mean,
this this landover I had, man,

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they could do anything. And then
but it was it was an amazing experience.

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So if myth, if my math
adds up correctly, you left the

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States right around two thousand and two
thousand and one, so right around nine

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to eleven, right right at nine
to eleven, happened when I was in

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Mexico. Yeah, so I experienced
it from there, and you know,

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I remember just dropping down the road
in Port of Ayata and then I saw

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the guy holding the newspaper with the
two towers of fire. Yeah, yeah,

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that's had. But you know,
my awakening had already kind of started

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before that. Being for Austin,
you know, I I actually, uh,

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I know, I know you're you're
kind of funny about Alex Jones,

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but I actually saw him when he
was started on Access Cable in Austin.

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That's that's where that's where my awakening
started. So I had to give him

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for that early in the mid nineties, right, yeah, yeah, And

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I was like, who is this
guy on Access cable. He's just going

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on about the uh, you know, the U N and this and and

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and you know, Club of Rome
and and I'm like, so I started

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digging into all this. I was
like, what what what is this will

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be? You know, then it
was a Genda twenty, was Agenda twenty

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then at that point yeah, then
twenty twenty, now twenty thirty, right,

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that's twenty thirty. So and so
that's kind of said, we're my

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awakening to the the world government.
What was happening, What how they were

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wanting to you know, what,
what what their plans were? I mean,

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and for the most part, he's
you know, he's been pretty on

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target. I mean, you know, that was the one thing I wanted

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to talk to you about as far
as you know, controlled opposition, you

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know, what how you consider him
and maybe you know, Tucker Carlson,

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some of these other people, you
know, I I guess my My question

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is, you know, what do
they get out of it at the end

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of the day, you know what
what what is there? You know,

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are they club? Do they do
they? You know, what is their

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ro what is their reward? Because
I hear Alex Jones and he's always professing

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he's a Christian and there he is. No, it's not a you know,

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I I can't think of it right
now, all things Israel, yes,

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right, gotcha? What would that? What would that be? What

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would you be considered if you're for
you're pro zionist, if you're not a

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Zionist, yeah, prozionist. So
and you know, and I get it's

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funny because when he when he gets
guests on and they bring that up,

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he gets really weird. Yes he
does. You know, I'm like,

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there's got to be something there.
So what is that? Who is he

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getting a checked on her table?
What? What is his you know again

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he claims that he that he's Christian, he does is for God and he

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is no, no affiliations, nothing. But then You're like, I just

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see that that way. You know, it's weird. One hundred and ten

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percent. And for me, when
I did my research that that the big

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turning point in his career was twenty
thirteen and Austin, where his warehouse is,

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where he does his I mean,
I think he's moved a few times,

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but literally two blocks away from his
current location is strapf And Strapford is

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the largest Israeli intelligence corporation in the
United States. And if anybody, if

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you've never heard this before, go
google the dancing Israelis researched the Yodogo message

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system, met just Lucky, Larry
Silverstein and things like that, and you'll

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you'll always you'll find your truth to
nine to eleven. But when he highlight

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about I mean he was you know, bullet and all that. I mean,

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I know he was completely involved in
that. Yeah, And how how

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refreshing was actually Tucker to bring that
guy on from the University of Anchorage,

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Alaska last week, This guy who
is a professor of architecture, and the

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folks from the Architects and Engineers for
nine eleven Truth came up to him back

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in twenty eighteen and gave him a
large check and said, hey, we

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want you to research this. No, no, we're not going to tell

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you what to think or anything.
And he said, I'm not going to

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tell you how it happened, but
I will tell you if the official story

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passes this test. And this guy, with two of his highest best students

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for a year researched this and he
said, there's no way on God's green

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earth that this could have happened.
But the interesting thing was, and this

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validates me what I always say I
should say is when they first came to

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him, he didn't even realize there
was another building that fell on September the

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eleventh. He was only aware of
building one and two. It's still people

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that don't believe that there's still people
that building seven. They're like, what

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are you talking about building seven?
What? It's lazy? Yeah, it's

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it's I told you you could stand
up front of Walmart nine to nine people,

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or it will say two buildings fell
in New York City on nine to

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eleven. But back to Alex Jones, I think he is obviously. Twenty

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thirteen was a big, big turning
point when he hired Stratt four as an

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associate. I forget her name,
but she actually came on board. And

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part of it is for disclosure because
that's loan. That's their way of saying,

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we told you so. But at
the same time, it's a way

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of making us look silly. Right, Alex Jones, if you type his

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name into a gift, it's him
with the tinfoil hat making the song about

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the gay frogs. That that's so
I think it's it's a dual headed his

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purpose. Yeah, I mean,
it's just, yeah, just to to

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marginalize you if you even get any
information from him, or that's what I

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think it is, mostly just to
have enough people people will just kind of

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wave it off. Oh yeah,
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sure. But at the same time, and I made I did one episode

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on him last year. I made
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anybody not to listen to him,
because, like I said, they use

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him as disclosure. So when people
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because that's their disclosure, right exactly. Yeah, And you know, and

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you look into like, you know, the Cabalis is so hard and all

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that as well, and you know, you see Tucker with a little pink

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string on his arm, You're going, it's right, what's that about?

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nine to eleven, once that came
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you get the Gulf of Tonkin,
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all. I mean even too World
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just you look at that every every
almost war we got into, our have

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gotten into, has been a false
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very least a stand down, you
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what you're saying or don't understand what
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Harper November twenty fifth, twenty six
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but that's that's that's kind of where where

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around you know during the nine to
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passing out DVDs, got to see
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you see, if you look,
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that's that you know easily goes into
flat earth too, And it's just like

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you you just mentioned that word,
and people's programming kick in, the dissidence

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kicks in, and they're like,
what are you talking about? You know?

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a long time, but you know, I've you know, I came to

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Christ when I was forty one years
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the ocean, and I it took
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prodigal son. I was the guy
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didn't spend all my dad's money,
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not and I was a lot of
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I so great things in my life
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like, okay, but you know
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of what the lifestyle down there promoted
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working, you go out, you
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funny. When I first moved down
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there's two reasons why people are here. You're either wanted or unlunted,

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Which what are you? That's interesting? But you know, and and so

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I I've had this. I've again
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and what is the truth? And
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really the only truth is Christ and
it It's took me to so long get

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there because the ways of the world
just they just they divert you, they

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send you in different actions. And
the flesh is is hard sometimes, you

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know it is. And that's kind
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is at the bottom of every rabbit
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It really started Blake with nine to
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I got to flat Earth, you
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realize that it's it's it's bigger than
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that it is truly a spiritual war. And then that's when you know,

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you complete the circle and it completely
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immersed myself back into the Bible.
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the truth, it used to be, well, which history book do we

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try to trust? But then you
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trust, and that's the Bible.
That's it, and that's and then it's

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it's at that point, it's almost
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conspiracy that's been held all over us
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is I did we live on a
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yeah, I think everybody handles it
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point because there was a friend of
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memes of the flat earth, Flat
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I was kind of a loot with
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we were good buddies, and you
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some some trials and tribulations shout out
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moved back to the States as well
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both brothers in Christ now. And
it's it's a great you know, he's

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my my one outlet that I can
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hey man, you see this,
Oh God, can you believe this?

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I think this is where most people
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is so I'm gonna look at this
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started getting to to the measurements,
the age uh square, you know,

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per mile, the circumference of the
Earth. Started looking at all the NASA

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videos and the NASA thing is just
what I think. Really, I finally

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when you when you look back at
it, you're going, you're looking at

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this the model that looks like it
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off, going we really leave this
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rock right, you know you you
see you talk to get My other's a

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perfect example when I talked to her
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know, Mom, you know,
have you ever thought about this? And

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she's a very spiritual one, but
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almost in the age where she just
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but just okay, you know,
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point of contention. And you know, with all the conversations I've had with

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people over the last few years,
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pull back. It can even be
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planning that seed, just having that
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when it's broached, the next time, they're going to go back and remember

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the conversation they had to you,
and they're going to be like, oh,

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that's two people who mention it.
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will give them enough motivation to look
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you, like myself and everybody else, they'll go in to debuncket and within

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a couple of days guess what,
Yeah, you're going what what? Yep,

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your mind's a boy. Me.
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but I mean I was for a
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almost like a constantly searching just I
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it, going I can't believe this. We've lied to you this whole time.

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This is just this is the biggest
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know that's the gazip. But but
I think the best thing that it has

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done for me has brought me closer
to die. It's brought me closer to

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God. Realize that I have a
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that you know, loves me.
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strengthen that relationship. But you know, I mean I still have some some

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some issues with some of the Old
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read it, but you know I
read some of the things like you know,

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Isaiah, Isaiah, Deuterotomy, Isaiah
at thirteen, you know, get

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into I mean, you know it's
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green light on on on rape and
robbery and smashing children. I just I'm

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still trying to understand that, you
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there's a lot of people out there, there's a lot of you know,

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influences on YouTube, and you you
go and you look at some of these

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things, and some of these guys
that have gone more of the you know,

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they can get into the I don't
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all the Gnostic type Christianity. Have
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I've familiar with that. I have
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I mean, it's it's well,
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lost books, similar to the Dead
People. Sure, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
I mean we've founded like some container in

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Egypt, and you know they have
the different books of you know, of

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Thomas, and you know, again
you're not sure how they're wrong. You

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just you mean, you read it. It's interesting. But you know,

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I'm still gonna as my main sore
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at the ex V, I look
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look at it, you know,
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get a get a well rounded understanding. Sure, absolutely, I'm and again

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going back the Bible had eighty before
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fourteen of them, right, which
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and again it's you know, I've
read them. I think they're good tools

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to read. And I know it's
a big point of contention amongst a lot

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of people. There's YouTube channels,
like you said, that are completely dedicated

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to uh, you know, the
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like I heard, like Billy Carson
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they get into almost the woo woo
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so they they some of us,
I believe in Jesus. But this,

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you know, where this there's too
many conflicts and and that's you know,

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some of the things I was talking
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the Old Testament and sort of kind
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really a mosaic, you know,
put a lot of pieces together, as

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a Chael Heiser, Doctor Michael heis. I don't know if you've ever read

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any of his books, The Unseen
Realm. I I've heard of his name,

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I haven't read his books. I'm
pulling him up now. They're definitely

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gonna check it out because he really
kind of got it from where where we

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started and all the rebellions that happened
in the Bible and kind of what God's

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his. His worldview is in Deuteronomy
thirty two and is basically he believes that

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God had most pantheon or eloheen.
He was a he is a Hebrew scholar.

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He worked for a company called Logos, so he was their in house

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Bible scholar. But his whole doctorate
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and it was it was based on
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know if you have that. That
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of God and and basically upset with
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people kind of become very sent very
wicked, And that's kind of where you

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know. So the first obviously in
the garden second rebellion was Genesis six with

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when when the angels uh uh that
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and then and then the so we
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the third one was the apple in
the languages, and and put everybody all

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over the world. And so he
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great I've got to check it out.

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He wrote several other ones as well, but it's it's duly louted with the

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principalities and that God once he scattered
everybody. You know that he kind of

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put different people in the gods of
the Greek gods and over different people around

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the world. And and he just
he said, I'm just going to take

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the Israelites. I'm just going to
take them. Those going to be my

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people. And the rest he gave
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and they basically had them start worshiping, worshiping them instead of instead of

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God. So and that's when you
know he sent He sent Jesus and and

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basically after Jesus' resurrection and Paul was
spraying the Gospel, his job was to

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really reunite all of God's people once
again and let them know that these uh,

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these were not there not. This
was a God that there's only one

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God, and so yeah, it's
it's it's interesting. But Jack put put

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a lot of the Old Testament together
for me. And yeah, two points

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I wanted to make if I could. Number one, you had mentioned what

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was his name? I just headed
up in front of me, Michael Isser,

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Michael Heiser. Yeah, which who
just asked? A year ago the

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other day. He just died not
too long ago, h last year,

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pancreatic cancer. Yeah. So I
Psalm eighty two basically God standeth in the

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congregation of the mighty, and he
judgeth among the gods. What's interesting if

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you go to the Wikipedia about Psalm
eighty two. Petronella Moens, who was

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the blind I think Dutch painter from
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sure does look like our dollar bill. It's got the uh pyramid, Wow,

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the pyramid with the all seeing eye. Yeah, there you go.

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That is so interesting. Yeah.
So but but yeah, I mean I've

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I've had my own sort of spiritual
experiences as well, and you know,

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I did, I've done done some
things that and again I don't not want

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to glorify it, but I did
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Really, and when I was in
Costa Rica, Yeah, and I'd already

407
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.799
been safe. So I again don't
don't want to glorify this because I don't

408
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:14.119
think I would do this again.
But it was it was a very interesting

409
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.480
experience. But it's certainly witchcraft,
and it's certainly we're not supposed to do

410
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.240
that. And like I said,
if I didn't have the protection of Christ

411
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.640
over me, you know, I
think it could have gone a different way,

412
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:29.960
you know. But yeah, I
did it with a shamana. She

413
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:41.799
was from Peru and heard her husband
had an organic nursery and they would have

414
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.720
these ceremonies, you know, up
on the weekends. So but I took

415
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.240
it very seriously, you know,
I kind of you know, I wanted

416
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:52.720
to have intention, and I did, you know, wanted to do the

417
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.319
right way, you know, So
I did. They have a special diet,

418
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.000
you don't eat any type of sugar, spicy, just a very bland

419
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:05.240
diet for a week containing mostly fish, rice, you know, almost like

420
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:09.160
a cleansing, and then uh,
you know, don't you know, the

421
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:14.920
day before you just maybe eat some
eggs and some fruit. So I went

422
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.440
up, you know, went up
there and they the first thing they sit

423
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.880
you down and say, look,
if you're on any type of s s

424
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.720
ryes or any type of psychological antipsychotics, you cannot do this, right.

425
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.920
So they give you a little speech
there and then you just have yep you.

426
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.599
She comes in and she starts doing
these what they call like heroes,

427
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.839
you smoke what they call this,
uh, but it's called pachauma, my

428
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:45.160
pacha, my patcha. I'm sorry, my pacha is like a tobacco and

429
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:50.720
kind of go again, going around
doing the ikiros, which are she's bringing

430
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:57.039
in the supposed ayahuasca gods, which
is the egg again not not thinking this

431
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.920
through Georgia. No, it's like
and it's just this is not of God

432
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:06.640
for sure, but you know,
and I wanted to have this experience,

433
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.480
and so I you know, I
did, but probably a hero does.

434
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:16.720
I did five cups wow of it. And it was a trinty wild experience.

435
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.000
I had just at this point just
moved recently to Costa Rica about six

436
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.640
months I had coming off of a
divorce. I was kind of in this

437
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.480
just not really great place and and
this is kind of what I thought,

438
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:36.319
I need it, you know.
And so once you kind of go into

439
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.240
this cause you're not really seeing,
you're not moving around. I mean,

440
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:44.039
you're just on the mat and just
everything just starts coming at you. And

441
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:45.920
first of all, that the first
thing that I see is this big sort

442
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.920
of you know, library, and
I don't know if he's what are they

443
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.599
called with the Duobe decimal sys.
Yeah, the little one they call things

444
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.440
that little is that card catalogs?
Yeah, the card catalogs. Anyway,

445
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.160
it's this is all your problems.
Here's every thing that has it ever happened

446
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.039
to you in your life. You
can look at it if you want to,

447
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.000
but you don't need to. This
is this is the voice I'm hearing

448
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:13.480
in my in my head. And
then the second thing I heard is this

449
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.719
is our language. This is the
language of the universe. This is how

450
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:22.039
we speak. It was almost this
sort of pulsating sounding, almost like a

451
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.559
lower tone of crickets, like you
know, crickets or are sure at keita?

452
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:32.079
That's sort of that was that kind
of sound. And so we say,

453
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.239
this is our language. And basically
I was sitting under this huge dome

454
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:43.920
and I felt these other type of
entities there. Again, they didn't seem

455
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.320
harmful in any way. Didn't seem
like they wanted to do anything bad,

456
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.559
but they they kind of looked at
me like I was almost like a dog,

457
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.719
Like you know how you look at
a dog and oh he's cute.

458
00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:00.440
Look at that shit. Not not
really as a human being, you know,

459
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.039
just just kind of a funny little
just sitting there and you know,

460
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.199
kind of making jokes at me.
And and then this, I was sitting

461
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:13.239
under this huge dome. This is
bringing it to the flat ear. So

462
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.800
I'm just thinking, wow, now
that I'm thinking back at this was that

463
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.639
dome, that the that under you
know, and all these feathers were floating

464
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:29.280
on this dome. And and at
the end of it, I have a

465
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:35.880
very interesting sense of peace and and
I felt like I had, you know,

466
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.679
a different skin. So but again
I I I think it could have

467
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:43.400
gone different way if I hadn't been
if you know, and I said,

468
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.840
that was kind of a maybe It's
I was still a baby Christian, just

469
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:52.039
getting into, you know, starting
to read the Bible, so I hadn't

470
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.960
got to that part yet about you
know, you shouldn't do uh pharma chia

471
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:01.000
and yeah, and but now I
said, I don't recommend and in no

472
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:06.440
way do I want to glorify it
because I think it's a portal such you

473
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.800
can up and you probably shouldn't shouldn't
do that. You can get there different

474
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.719
just by praying. So absolutely,
anyway, is that something that you ever

475
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:20.119
two things? Did you feel like
you're in control the whole time or is

476
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.360
it something that you were I did. I did feel in control the whole

477
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.679
time. I never felt out of
control. I mean, you do have

478
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:30.280
to puke or you know, at
some point you have to get rid of

479
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.400
it. And it was it was
that was not the fun part. But

480
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.800
and you know, but like I
said, a lot of people, I

481
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.280
think I would have even had that
experience, had did the diet and everything.

482
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:44.320
Sure, a lot of people just
showed up and nearly cared, had

483
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.199
just eaten you know, turkey seat. They didn't have such a good experience,

484
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:51.920
you know, and they just threw
up and left and okay, you

485
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.719
know, but yeah, I mean
there's there's definitely a different type of realm

486
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:02.079
there that we don't see. There's
a curtain that we don't see, you

487
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:08.159
know. But yeah, it was
uh and it said I did it a

488
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:13.599
second time, and it was forth
again, filling the connection and everything's connected.

489
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.079
You know, I was outside,
I actually walked outside this time,

490
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.480
and you were seeing it was kind
of like Avatar when the plants would go

491
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.519
to the to the arm and wrap
around it. Yeah, it's kind of

492
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:30.119
like everything kind of just looked like
it was looking at you, and you

493
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.800
just again felt this sort of pulse, the sort of connection between everything.

494
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:40.719
But anyway, but yeah, it's
it was still an experience. Yeah,

495
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.599
you hear people talk and it only
lasts a few seconds, right or maybe

496
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.079
a minute? No, No,
this is no, it was it's ours.

497
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.199
It's four hours. Oh my goodness. Well y'rs. Well you're thinking

498
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.960
about I think d m T when
you smoke it, it is d MT,

499
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.000
but because it's ingested, it's a
longer experience. The one that you're

500
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:02.199
talking about is one where they smoke
it got you. But yeah, anyway,

501
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.920
so but yeah, those days are
past. Don't do that anymore.

502
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:13.239
I got I got an eight year
old to take care. Sure, absolutely,

503
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.920
was there kind of going back to
the flatter or was there videos or

504
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.559
what? I know? I think
you said you had a friend that mentioned

505
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.559
it to you. Yeah, what
was there? Videos? Books? What

506
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.800
was the thing that kind of got
you to understand it and uh led you

507
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.559
into flutter. So I think the
what, Yeah, it started with with

508
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:35.960
with videos. I mean I went
and you know, because I looked at

509
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.119
flat Earth and around two thousand and
fifty, and I remember a video had

510
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.239
come out and it was one of
those it was just kind of like,

511
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.920
well, you know where the videos
like those description videos and then they draw

512
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:52.519
stuff out with some slides and it
just talked about Admiral Bird and yep,

513
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:54.400
and so it was like, that's
that's interesting. I kind of got into

514
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.840
it. And then I think I
saw the Netflix thing that said, well

515
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.400
is where they debunked it behind the
curve or something like that on the curve

516
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.880
with the lasers and they weren't lining
up, and then you know, and

517
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.880
then then I sort of dismissed it
again, you know, and I kind

518
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.960
of said, oh, okay,
that's it's stupid, all right. And

519
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.880
then my friend Travis, like I
said, started sending me stuff and I

520
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.880
started looking into it, looking into
it. Looked at all the NASA stuff,

521
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.960
you know, started started digging into
NASA, looking at all their videos

522
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:32.239
and all their the the their fails
you know, with the wire harnesses,

523
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:38.679
the challenger. I got into how
all the people were still alive. The

524
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:45.719
what's his name, Bart sa Bar
yeah yeah, looked at all his stuff

525
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:55.039
with it to got onto uh hibbler, looked at all the level videos and

526
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.880
and just again started slowly just putting
it together, and just again the mas

527
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.440
overall just didn't ever didn't match up. You know, the idea that things

528
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.840
could stick to a ball. Just
I'm like, that doesn't make any sense

529
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:15.400
where in nature? Anywhere in nature
does that represent it nowhere? So you

530
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.960
know it's I'm sorry to me to
cut you off, just gonna say,

531
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.119
but here's here's something I want to
ask, because everybody brings it up,

532
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.760
like almost every person I've ever interviewed, at some point of our life.

533
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.880
We all all of us, whether
you're flat Earth or not. Like when

534
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:32.719
that comes up, the ball sticking
to the water, sticking to the ball,

535
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.000
Like I never bought that either,
but we just continued on with our

536
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.320
life. And now that we're on
the side of the fence, it's just

537
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:45.480
like, what why don't we take
that extra step to question things? That's

538
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.719
the big question, Like the gravity
when they swing in a bucket and they

539
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.000
say that's gravity, then face it
outward, Andy or the water, the

540
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:58.000
ball. Why don't we take that
extra step in questioning these things. Well,

541
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:01.400
that's the thing is that I think
it's it's just because it's just it's

542
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:07.039
the cognitive dissonance. I mean,
I think it's it's just it's it's so

543
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.920
programmed, so hard. I mean, you walk into your kindergarten class and

544
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.639
there's a globe. You know,
I've heard you mentioned this. There's a

545
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.760
globe in every movie, there's a
globe. I mean, everywhere we go

546
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.519
there's a globe, you know,
So it just becomes a part of I

547
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.280
think, are just every day you
know, you don't, I mean you

548
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.320
look. I mean I can sit
here and look at my icons, I

549
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:28.800
see globes. You open up your
Apple phone and you see a globe.

550
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.079
So the idea, I think it's
just it's drilled in us so hard that

551
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.760
we don't question it. And I'm
mad at myself being, you know,

552
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:42.280
looking into conspiracy. You know,
since ninety six, Why did I never

553
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.880
think of this? You know,
I don't know. It's it's a good

554
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:52.920
question, and that also, I
believe leads to really show how much effort

555
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:58.639
they put into the cloak that the
globe conspiracy, because you know, all

556
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.360
of us if we're able to look
in to you know, nine to eleven

557
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.440
and all these things which are very
big on the scale of uh, you

558
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.719
know, conspiracies, but even all
of us who were into the deepest whatever

559
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.280
rabbit holes. Even for me,
for the longest time, I'd get an

560
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.599
email that says, hey, have
you looked at delete right? Right?

561
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.840
And but now what happened you just
because you're like, I don't have the

562
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.320
I don't have the bandwidth for that. I just what that's silly, you

563
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.199
know. And because we're caught up
in our day to day because we're busy,

564
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.559
we're working, we're trying to make
money, we're trying to survive,

565
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.119
and it just needs to becomes something
that I can't do that, you know.

566
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.000
I think that's where it is.
I think that's for me. The

567
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.039
older you get, the harder it
was for me to that's a lot to

568
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.960
unwind. You know, I was
forty eight or forty nine maybe when I

569
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:52.519
came across it. That's a lot
to unprogrammed. Yeah, no, it

570
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.840
is, I said, it's it's
it's been very difficult for me. It's

571
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.159
been very difficult for me. But
but it's funny now now that I am

572
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.440
to it, Yeah, everything just
stands out. Like I said when I

573
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:06.320
saw the oh first time back on
the moon in fifty years. No,

574
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.320
no, you know, and I'm
just like laughing to myself, like,

575
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:14.440
okay, because we are in,
we are in. I know, it's

576
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:22.159
a sealed environments. There's there's we're
not moving outside of it, you know,

577
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:28.800
And and there's so many there are
so many universal mysteries that we still

578
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.719
haven't tauted it into. Chesla was
starting to get there, you know,

579
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:37.159
I know that you know, the
the numera. You know, he was

580
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.400
obsessed with three six nine yep,
you know, and how that you know

581
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.960
that was the answer to the universe, you know, because everything was divisible

582
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:50.000
by that. You know, there's
still people that believe, you know,

583
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.480
there's a lot of people out there
that think we're in a full simulation.

584
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.880
I mean, I don't know if
you've ever listened to Jason uh Brochard's at

585
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:01.760
all. He's uh he was a
Southern Baptist, you know, all the

586
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:07.800
way and he is now convinced based
on he and he's he's he's an interesting

587
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.639
guy. You can check out his
YouTube channel as well, but you know,

588
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.000
he was in prison for like twenty
seven years, and all he did

589
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.199
was read books. And he's very, very knowledgeable, but you know,

590
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:22.719
he's he's convinced of this, that
all these events that have happened to the

591
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:28.360
flood, the you know, all
the major things in the Bible that you

592
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:36.320
know, and there's a connection with
the pyramid and because it's again lost knowledge.

593
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.679
But have you ever heard of the
uh, the phoenix phenomenon? Have

594
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:45.199
you heard it all? It's it
sounds familiar, but fill me in.

595
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:51.119
Okay. So it's it's basically an
event that had said that you and again

596
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.280
everything is divisible into this one hundred
and thirty eight You know, if you

597
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:58.239
look at all these times, these
moments in history, but it's every one

598
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.800
hundred and thirty eight years, it's
like certain type of resett that happens.

599
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:06.719
Just again, google the phoenix phenomenon. The last one was in nineteen oh

600
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.639
two. I was gonna say,
why the nih the mud Huh It's actually

601
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:16.320
on the National Library of Medicine's website. Okay, okay, and uh anyway,

602
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.559
so that's nineteen oh two was a
it was a time with again another

603
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:24.400
kind of surrounded by mystery, with
the mud floods and you know, babies

604
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:30.119
and incubators and things like that.
Was it was kind of around that time,

605
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.960
late eighteen hundreds. So that was
the last one. That the next

606
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.719
one that they say we're gonna have
is in twenty forty, in May sixteenth.

607
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.440
So you know, is that revelation
is that you know what what is

608
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.199
is what will unfold at that time? You know. But yeah, he

609
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:52.159
has a web he has a YouTube
called Archaics, and and again he's he's

610
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.360
he's got some pretty interesting stuff.
Yeah, I know that I'm sub to

611
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.760
that. Gotcha. Yeah, exactly
you were talking about Go back to the

612
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:05.599
the the ministerry we're talking about you
say, Jason Richards. Uh, then

613
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.559
the Yeah, he's he's not,
it's not he's not it's not a ministry.

614
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:14.280
He's he's he's he's not a Christian
anymore. Supposedly, he's he believes

615
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:19.679
there's an oversoul that that we're in
a sort of a simulation type theory.

616
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.159
Oh, gotcha. But but no, but and then back to your other

617
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.679
question kind of again what I started
going through, like I went through Denotle

618
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.400
stuff. Sure, Uh, there's
actually a guy he does a pretty good

619
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:37.559
presentation called Ray mcberry uh through Pinnacle
Baptists, and he does a biblical cosmology,

620
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.639
does an eight part series. It's
definitely worth checking out. You know,

621
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.920
know he got goes through stuff again. The vacuum. That's another thing,

622
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:52.320
the vacuum of space. How can
our you know, our stratosphere not

623
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.719
be sucked into the vacuum of space? You know, dark energy, all

624
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.519
these different things that you have to
come up with to make their plan work.

625
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:07.440
You know, it's it's just yeah, it's it's you just touch seeing

626
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:12.679
lie after lie and how it's all
layered, and you just that that's when

627
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.719
you finally go, Okay, I
get it. Is to keep us away

628
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:20.199
from God. Absolutely, you want
to keep us away from God and our

629
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:24.280
Creator. And and I think we
are. I think we're we're you know,

630
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:30.239
Satan is in here with us.
And is all these aliens that that

631
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.280
people see. I mean, oh, they're trying to bring into all this

632
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.440
New Age type stuff now that you
know we're gonna we're you know, they're

633
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:43.079
doing all this slow disclosure of release. Man, the these these creatures have

634
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:47.639
been here since the beginning of time. You know, they they've they've they've

635
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:53.639
they're they're stuck here with us,
you know, and so they're there ideas

636
00:47:53.719 --> 00:48:00.440
to twist everything, to distort everything, to make it a nation of creation.

637
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.440
And you know, I don't know
if you ever like listened to like,

638
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.000
you know, Stephen Grier, you
know, with the Orbs. Have

639
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.159
you ever have you ever seen me
of that? Yeah? He was on

640
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:12.559
different right, Yeah, I think
he's been on Rogan a few times.

641
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.199
I can't hardly been anymore. I
mean I used to like him a lot,

642
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:21.440
but he just I don't know,
he's I think he talked about controlled

643
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.039
up position. I mean it's like, yeah, can you imagine not having

644
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.519
like with sid get on Rogan?
He would blow his mind. Yeah,

645
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.920
Rogan completely flipped the script when he
went to Spotify. And I don't know

646
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.559
how how it goes from saying how
ridiculous is the moon landing? To oh,

647
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:37.760
yeah we went to the moon.
Well, and he's the big friend

648
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:44.719
Eddie Brob was, you know,
Yeah, yeah, And I mean it's

649
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:50.320
like, so that's why I don't
I don't really put a lot of faith

650
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:55.400
in Rogue anymore right now. I
think he's on the pay pay plan for

651
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:01.519
sure. But yeah, I mean, like you again, I'm there's this

652
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.360
there's this other guy, Chris Bloodsoe, the Bloodsoe family. Again, I

653
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.039
don't know if you've ever looked into
it, but he's also an ORB guy.

654
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.320
And he says he can call orbs
and and and I'm just thinking,

655
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.760
what is that? You know?
He you got to read his story his

656
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:20.719
he wrote up a book, the
UFO. But he has these all these

657
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.400
ties, yeah, Ufo of God. And he has all these ties into

658
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:32.079
NASA from I mean, all the
guys from Colonel what's his name, the

659
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:37.360
guy that did the staring at Yeah, well, I gotta I gotta read

660
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:45.920
it up here. I'm gonna hold
up that he's involved. All these are

661
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.519
people from AASA. Once he had
this experience, uh with these with these

662
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:58.159
beings. You know, he had
uh an n encounter with a woman and

663
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.719
and all and there was a bull
there which is also it's she had they

664
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.719
had these creatures that have the reverse
the upside down triangle which goes into the

665
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:12.760
rosa uh Frisian stuff, you know. And yeah, it's it's crazy,

666
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.039
you know, it's you're just wondering
again, what kind of deception is this?

667
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.280
You know? And he says,
this guy, Chris bloods Yeah,

668
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:24.679
there's a there's a interview he did
I think with Danny Thomas that he goes

669
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.559
through everything. He's definitely worth checking
out Danny Thomas. I don't know if

670
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:34.119
you're watching any of his stuff on
YouTube podcasts a little bit, I've seen

671
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.960
it. Yeah, anyway, there's
just look at that interview, and he

672
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.880
goes through the whole thing of when
he first encountered the orbs, where he

673
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:45.400
found him, how he's healed people. I think they even pictured it looks

674
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.239
like a demon of you know,
but they're not. And they how they

675
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.519
have these little guys with the upside
down triangles that he met, and his

676
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:58.199
whole family's involved in it. He
and he's and he's a super nice guy

677
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.639
and all these people and Washington actually
called him. He said, he healed

678
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:07.840
this guy and he and he these
these these beings helped him do it,

679
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.960
you know, and they have helped
him heal other people. And I'm just

680
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.360
like, what is that? You
know, what what? And he's very

681
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.079
genuine and it's like, you know, I don't think he's full of it,

682
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:21.400
you know, I mean, I
know there's a lot of people out

683
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:25.960
there that do that, but you
know, like I said that that's and

684
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.960
then we're starting to see all these
these you know, these uh u a

685
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:37.519
ps and and different videos that they're
releasing, you know, with all this

686
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.199
anti gravity you know, technology that
there's no way to do. You know,

687
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.440
is that us? Is that angel
technology? What is that? You

688
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.239
know? Or isn't simply deception to
get you to buy into origin all?

689
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.599
Is it all deception? Exactly?
So again trying to filter all that out

690
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:59.239
sometimes and and and understand you know, what what is reality and what is

691
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.480
not? You know. Yeah,
and when when you get into a lot

692
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:07.800
of these people who are affiliated,
did you say Chris Bledsoe was was affiliated

693
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.159
with NASA? Yes, that's what
that's That's what I'm saying, getting back

694
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.280
to that. And I think,
like, you know, he's the John

695
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.760
Ronson guy. Was he affiliated with
NASA too? It was a colonel right,

696
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:22.599
Yeah, he was, he was. It was him. Let's see.

697
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:29.719
So you had Hal poven Meyer who
was also a big Blue Project Blue

698
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:37.559
Book person. Also worth A and
NASA are synonymous. They are one organization.

699
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.000
I don't I don't you know,
And I think, like I said,

700
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:49.920
they have somehow tapped into this this
technology, this hidden technology that were

701
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.800
the in portals and things like that
that bring in demons, bring in other

702
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:58.119
entities that we don't know about,
you know. I mean if you get

703
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.639
into j. Parsons and and part
and rocketry and all that. Yep,

704
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:05.360
I mean you know that was part
of it with Aleister Crowley and doing those

705
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.159
blood sex rituals. Yes, exactly, Like That's what I was trying to

706
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:13.599
get to was all this stuff goes
back to this magic with a K exactly

707
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:17.440
exactly. So, and that's what
I think NASA is all about. At

708
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:22.400
the end of the day. I
think that they used the space as this

709
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:28.039
sort of you know, distraction,
but it's all about that. So yeah,

710
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.960
hol Povenmeyer, you got you should
look this guy. This is the

711
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:36.039
guy that came and visited. He
brought this weird piece of material that folded

712
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.880
like metal, but it folded and
Chris Bloodsoe was the only one who had

713
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.079
a reaction to it, but they
were all tied in. And then he

714
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.239
ended up with this guy, Timmoth
Taylor, who was they called the Dragon,

715
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.519
who was pretty much at charge of
all the launches, all the NASA

716
00:53:53.559 --> 00:54:00.639
launches since the late sixties seventies.
He was the main There was this one

717
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:07.800
place that they went this one area. I need to send you this,

718
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:14.679
Reddilyn, that only like seven people
including all the astronauts, like twenty something

719
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.719
people have ever been in there that
he got to go into. So all

720
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:22.920
these high end government CIA people he
was dealing with and he's still dealing with

721
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.840
and no. But but the funny
thing he's like saying, these are all

722
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:30.199
great guys. They're all just really
nice guys. And I'm just wondering,

723
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:35.039
was he is he being deceived?
You know that that's a great point.

724
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.119
Very well could be. And you
know, speaking of poven Meyer, that

725
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:43.280
guy he was a long time he
was on the Apollo missions and the Space

726
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.239
Shuttle missions. Yeah, absolutely,
and they were became really good friends.

727
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:52.880
And that's he They're friends with the
family, and he over several years questioned

728
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:57.039
all members of the family different about
these experiences that they had all had,

729
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.880
you know, a different and to
try to find that was he was a

730
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:04.679
debunker. He would go in and
try to find holes in the story.

731
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:12.400
So yeah, there's that. That's
my my opinion is that they they have

732
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:16.920
time following angel technology that they're dealing
with, and that's what all this is.

733
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:22.360
From Roswell to NASA to to you
know, when they first opened up

734
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:27.679
these portals with Hitler, you know, and and all the the krill uh

735
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.039
stuff that they were doing, you
know, all the occult stuff that they

736
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:36.760
were doing with Crowley and everything.
So so do you sorry, sorry?

737
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.519
Go ahead? No, you finish
up? No? I mean, which

738
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:45.480
again also takes you to Antarctica.
You know it leachs back there. You

739
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:51.039
know what's going on with Antarctica and
what's what's happening down there? Why can't

740
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.039
we go past the sixtieth parallel?
Do you have a I mean, what

741
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:58.480
was your opinion? I'm curious,
George. Do you think that we are

742
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:04.840
in just one big dome? Or
is there other domes? Is there bigger

743
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.079
outer domes? Or we within many
domes? I mean, what what?

744
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.360
What is? You know, there's
a lot of people that believe that,

745
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:13.480
you know, with bird and you
know you the diaries that he came back

746
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.199
and said there's lands beyond bigger than
the United States. Well, do you

747
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:21.159
do you think that there is?
Or or do we end at Antarctica?

748
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.960
Or is the ice wall d I
think my belief is the ice wall?

749
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:30.159
Is it? That's just my belief? You know, somebody one of my

750
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:37.000
listeners mentioned he's watching and I think
it's Joe. He had mentioned that if

751
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:42.039
you watch the show Lost, Yes, three twenty five is mentioned, and

752
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.239
if you look at the what's the
map that we always talk about, I'm

753
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.519
having a brain cramp here, but
and if you look at a compass,

754
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:54.880
that's like just south of Australia.
So he people that the people who believe

755
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:59.559
that there's more land on the other
side of the ice believe that they say

756
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:01.320
had lost. There's one other TV
show that they mentioned like three oh five

757
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:08.239
and three twenty five as the maybe
it's the what's the one with the dragons?

758
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:17.039
The TV show of the HBO show, right, yeah. For some

759
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:21.719
reason, the three five and the
three twenty five come up a lot.

760
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.599
And if you put it against Gleason's
map, there you go, Gleason's map,

761
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:29.519
right yeah, versus a compass.
It looks three twenty five is due

762
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:34.199
south of like central Australia. Three
oh five is due south from between New

763
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:39.519
Zealand and Eastern Australia. Gotcha,
Yeah, Yeah, that's that? Like,

764
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:43.480
is that is that a Is that
a pathway? You know? Is

765
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:50.119
that a is that you know?
There's yeah, there's there it's it's it's

766
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:55.960
it's it's interesting. I just put
up the email. It's actually escape from

767
00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:00.719
New York. They mentioned three twenty
five. Okay, where you going a

768
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:15.679
little white wall or is it the
ice wall? Yeah? And but yeah,

769
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:20.719
I mean I do as far as
you know, like I said,

770
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.599
we were talking about, once you
figure the word is flat, everything else

771
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:28.679
becomes trivial. Trivial? Do you
I mean, how do you feel about

772
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:30.800
our current state of affairs? You
know, in the United States? Do

773
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:37.000
you do you think that we're going
to overcome this? Do you think this

774
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:43.079
is something that is part of what
we have to go through. It's something

775
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.639
we have to go through. We've
embedded ourselves too deep into the matrix to

776
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:50.800
really do anything. I mean,
I mentioned on my other podcast a couple

777
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.159
of weeks ago. When you have
twenty million people who work for the government,

778
00:58:55.119 --> 00:59:00.079
and then you have you know,
another fifty or sixty million who were

779
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:05.440
on Social Security, Medicaid, military
retirement. Like myself, people aren't going

780
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.559
to rise up against the hand that
feeds them. My thing is, if

781
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.400
we're going to make a change,
it's got to be based on you.

782
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.320
You have to have a good foundation, and you know, we country,

783
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:21.400
and every country around the world for
that matter, has to look at yourself

784
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.840
and see are you really as we
say under dollar bill? One nation?

785
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:27.480
Under God? Well? What God? Right? Then? Ever, you

786
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.719
never hear a politician talk about Jesus
Christ. You only hear a mention God.

787
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:34.280
Well, which God are we talking
about? Because how you act and

788
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:39.079
how you behave and how you unmercifully
bomb other countries without any justification, and

789
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:43.440
how you tax tax you know,
taxes to death and you give it away

790
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.800
for your money laundering schemes, and
we could go on and on and on.

791
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.280
Really is if we're going to make
a difference, we have to have

792
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.639
a moral compass. We have to
have a strong foundation because if you're building

793
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:58.480
a house, like you're supposed to
build a country, you have to have

794
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.880
This is what we're about, right, you know when we when you start

795
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:06.079
a new business, you write your
mission statement. What what is your business

796
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.320
about? It's got to be more
about just making some money. You want

797
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:14.280
to make a change in your community. You want to give people different options.

798
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:16.400
When I went into business in Texas
down there in Temple, there was

799
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:21.639
only one store in the area that
that sold that particular thing, and there

800
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.280
were gallegian people and that was my
wife was was a nurse. So you

801
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:28.159
know, part of my mission state
was giving you know, people in the

802
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:31.880
medical community a choice right. And
competition is important in the United States.

803
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:37.719
It's what helps regulate costs and not
let people get into monopolies. And what

804
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.280
what is our mission statement in the
United States right now? What are we

805
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:45.719
about? Right? Well? That
I think that's that's the problem, was

806
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:50.599
that nobody knows what we're about.
We're about bombing other countries, uh,

807
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.840
moving money out from taxpayers to Ukraine
laundry money. I mean, yeah,

808
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:59.199
is that is that our government?
And how do we and how do we

809
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.239
combat that? Obviously we're not going
to be able to do it, I

810
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:08.920
mean through you know, means of
of of taking over the country or of

811
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:13.039
physical means. I mean, is
is it? Is it about setting up

812
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:19.880
parallel economies that we eventually just don't
you know acknowledge you know the these uh

813
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:22.400
these governmental forces. I mean,
what what happens you know? I mean,

814
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:28.760
I don't know if you happen to
see that that that speech that was

815
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:36.199
it was it Brucelli did and the
seed pack Uh the recent seapac did you

816
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.159
say that he's the president of El
Salvador. Do you know his story?

817
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:45.679
No, I don't. Okay again, go check it out. It's he

818
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:50.800
gave this this pack speech, but
he basically turned El Salvador around in about

819
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:54.119
two years and he pretty much just
laid it out. He goes, you

820
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:57.239
know what we did, We got
rid of the n g O s that

821
01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.760
were infesting our company, are infesting
our country, he says. We we

822
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:05.639
pulled ourselves out of the boiling pot
we were. We weren't even you know,

823
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.840
going in we were boiling. You
know, since the sixties and seventies,

824
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:15.960
it's just riddled with corruption. L
Salvador and in a matter of twos

825
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:20.440
he got rid of all the MS
thirteen kicked him all out of the country.

826
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:23.400
That was again a CIA operation,
certain where they were where they were

827
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:28.760
trained in the United States and they
were sent down there and recruited people and

828
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.239
created all the gangs there in l
Se. So within a matter of two

829
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:36.519
years, it became one of the
most dangerous countries in the world to one

830
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:43.559
of the safest countries in the world. And now they're national monetary systems Bitcoin.

831
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:46.719
Really can you believe that? Yeah, you got to look up the

832
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:51.320
story. It's the guy's amazing.
I mean, he's a young guy and

833
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.360
he just says he can be done, you know, and he and he

834
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:57.719
just called Sorows out. He said, this is this is the guy who's

835
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.000
who did it to us, you
know, and all the people behind them,

836
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.599
all the ng goes and the same
problem we have with all the NGOs

837
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.440
down there and gap right now,
you know all that they're just they're they're

838
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:13.119
facilitating all these people to invade our
country, you know. And it's all

839
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:16.519
Sorls funded money, you know.
And again everybody gets into I know which

840
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.400
camp did it? Is a Zionists
camp? Did that? You know?

841
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.599
Uh? Who who is who is
behind everything? I think it's a culmination

842
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:28.880
of all groups. I think it's
a culmination of all groups that that just

843
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:36.079
this elite, this this this Synagoguaeus
sayan once the rule, you know,

844
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:42.800
and yeah, it's it's it's uh. I think that's the only way.

845
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:46.280
But it was very refreshing because it's
saying because I think what happens, George

846
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:51.960
is people become you know, we
they just don't know what to do.

847
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.920
We know, we we're they're the
humiliation ritual that's put on us on a

848
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.519
daily you know, by looking at
Bier and just looking at everybody how as

849
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:06.480
they are. It's it's it makes
you almost it almost paralyzes people, I

850
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:09.559
believe, you know, they're like, what am I going to do?

851
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.039
You know? But it can be
done, we can. They did it

852
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:16.400
peacefully too, you know, without
without people having to die. So there's

853
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:21.119
hope. I believe, yeah,
that and that is something I'll definitely check

854
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:28.000
out. His name is I have
it right here, naive b u k

855
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.639
e ly And I'll be like,
well, right put, I'll put the

856
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.800
Lincoln the in the show notes as
well, and the packs each check it

857
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:38.039
out. And by the way,
you should mention with everything you just said,

858
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:44.440
Jacob Rothchild passed today. Oh well, well hope, I'll order where

859
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:48.239
a place he's in. Mister Burns
from The Simpsons, Mister Burns. Yeah,

860
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:54.679
it was based on Yeah, yeah, gosh, yeah, it's you

861
01:04:54.719 --> 01:05:00.599
know, I again, you you
you don't want to say, is I

862
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:02.800
mean did that person ever know?
God? You know? That's the thing

863
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:10.119
is like, who did worship in
a Yeah? They live in a whole

864
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:15.039
different world than we do, that's
for sure. They don't. It's just

865
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.199
wait, what do you think about
those things. It's really hard to swallow

866
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.119
that people would rather, you know, choose worldly things that the span of

867
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:27.480
he lived to be eighty seven eighty
seven years is dropping the bucket compared to

868
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:31.880
eternity, right absolutely, That's what
I don't understand. It's like you're just

869
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:38.360
gonna take your rewards on this short
time, this this vapor of time that

870
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:43.760
you're in to spend an eternity in
hell. I mean, I don't get

871
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:48.800
it, and don't get it,
you know, And I mean I hopefully

872
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:54.400
and I you know, I've been
in some pretty bad situations, you know,

873
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:57.519
near death situations, and I know
that the only reason I made it

874
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:00.119
was because of God. And I
know that there was a reason for for

875
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:04.000
me to continue living, you know, and it was to raise my son,

876
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:09.800
it was to to help I'll hopefully
mixed and bring other people to Jesus.

877
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:14.639
And that's that's my that's my future. That's my goal, you know,

878
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:17.519
is trying to bring as many people
as I can to the Kingdom so

879
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:21.400
I can at the end, you
know, be told well done, good

880
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:30.519
servant, you know, and and
use use my my experiences and testimony to

881
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.679
help people come there. So I
don't think I've asked you this yet,

882
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:39.360
but have you had any success in
finding a local church or do you have

883
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:43.119
a Bible study with friends or what
is your out live? Yeah, I've

884
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:48.800
done both. I have a a
local church I go to that it's pretty

885
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:54.800
good. I went to a Baptist
church when I first started, when I

886
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:58.280
moved back to Texas, and it
was just I love and that's kind of

887
01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:00.760
my roots. I mean, I
grew up in the al their calls and

888
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:03.039
coming down and you know, that's
what I remember with my grandparents. My

889
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:10.360
grandparents were wonderful, godly people,
and so it kind of reminds me of

890
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.400
them. But it got a little
too little, too money oriented, and

891
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:15.599
I was kind of to me off, you know, And I think that's

892
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:20.639
what turns a lot of people off
with churches. And so I've actually joined

893
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:25.719
a couple of different Bible studies and
I did. And the thing about the

894
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:30.440
Bible studies, I enjoy them and
it's good, but they're always very to

895
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.599
me, very surface, you know, and that they don't dive into the

896
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:39.480
spiritual aspects of the Bible. You
know, we just sort of because of

897
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:42.559
our you know, world that we're
in, we just kind of brush them

898
01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:45.679
off, you know. And that's
to me more interesting, you know,

899
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.239
the principalities and what we're actually our
true battle here is, you know.

900
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:56.079
And and again he's getting start talking
about those things, people start looking at

901
01:07:56.119 --> 01:08:00.000
you funny, you know. And
but but yeah, I found a good

902
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.239
church that actually has lots of money, doesn't need money, never has for

903
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:12.599
it. They're just the non denominational
church on Christ Chapel shout out. Pretty

904
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:15.199
pretty large church here, but but
they do good they do good work.

905
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:19.600
Well. I'll be in Waco in
April twentieth, so if you're free that

906
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:23.439
day, you should come down and
I'll be at a Mexican restaurant doing a

907
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:27.439
live fact Hunder podcast. Man,
I'd love that. Just please sit the

908
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.079
day. I'd come down and meet
you personally. I'd be great. I

909
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:32.479
will hopefully later this week I'll make
an announcement on this podcast too, if

910
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:35.119
anybody wants to come down and say
hello. I'll be in Oklahoma City on

911
01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:41.119
April nineteenth and location to be determined. And then I think it's only four

912
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:44.520
hour drive from okay See to Waco
straight down. I thirty five. Now

913
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:49.319
saw that bad at all? Yeah, I'd love to find some some some

914
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:54.439
more local flat earthers, you know, for some people close by. I

915
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.960
know I got the app. You
know, you know you can you can

916
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.359
pay, I just haven't done it
yet, and you can find local people.

917
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:04.039
But uh yeah, I mean it's
like it's nice to have a group

918
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:06.600
that you could go to, kind
of like an alcohol it's anonymous. Maybe

919
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:14.479
help allttle. My named Sean,
I'm a flat arth that's right. Uh

920
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:16.760
well, we even got the I
ordered some magnets. I'll be bringing them

921
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.920
uh around and next week. I'll
if anybody wants them, they can.

922
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:24.000
You know, I'm going to send
a few out for free. I'm not

923
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.720
going to put them up for sale
or anything. But I've even me and

924
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:30.359
my wife's car, we've got the
research flat earth magnets. It's just something

925
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.159
worth the point where again, if
you're going to change, you got to

926
01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:36.800
do things that you might not have
been comfortable with doing prior. You just

927
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:41.479
got to be you know the infamous
mame where everybody's there's a fork in the

928
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:44.960
road and everybody's going to the left
and there's that one guy going to the

929
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:46.880
right. If you want to make
a difference in you're you have conviction and

930
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:51.920
your beliefs, then then you should
stand tall in them. Yeah, absolutely,

931
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:56.920
I agree, I agree. I
wanted to ask you obviously you mentioned

932
01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:00.279
curvature was a big one. What
are your other five? Your silver bullets,

933
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:10.760
if you will. So curvature was
one the just the the one thing,

934
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:15.279
the vacuum part, because you can't
really have really do anything in a

935
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.600
vacuum. You can't fly, you
can't, you can't. So that that

936
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:21.560
kind of said, well, how
are they traveling through spin? How was

937
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:25.319
this? So that that was one. I mean, I don't know if

938
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:29.600
you ever seen videos of flies or
other trying to fly in a vacuum.

939
01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:32.479
They can't do it right, right, That was a big one for me.

940
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:38.560
The uh, the the double rainbows. Have you ever seen any of

941
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:50.319
that where you see the reflected and
together out of uh there're uh you dropped

942
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:56.000
there? Are you still there?
Structure? You know? Yeah, I'm

943
01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:59.760
here. Okay, just sorry off
for session and no explain that double rainbows

944
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:02.760
again for the listeners. So,
yeah, so that when you look at

945
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:05.239
some of these double rainbows, if
you look at each the rainbow, the

946
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:13.199
opposing rain one on top, the
colors are opposite, and so you can

947
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:18.600
tell it's a reflection of that rainbow. Absolutely, I saw one just maybe

948
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.239
a month ago, maybe six weeks
ago. Yeah, it's amazing. So

949
01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:25.760
that, I mean, that tells
you there's some type of structure there that's

950
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:30.680
that's that's keeping in our our atmosphere
or you know, or what we're living

951
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:38.000
in. Let's see what else.
The just again digging into NASA that that

952
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:41.399
was probably the biggest one, all
the NASA fails, all the lies that

953
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:44.319
have come out of that place.
I mean, I just I have such

954
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:45.880
a disdain for NASA. I mean, I I do get triggered when I

955
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:53.039
see NASA stuff now because I do. They're just liars. It's like driving

956
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:58.279
them by stay like a nineteen seventies
used car a lot, Yeah exactly,

957
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:00.439
you know, and it's just you
know, know you you least see a

958
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:03.720
shirt or whatever. You you know, Like I said, when they're when

959
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:08.479
they're talking and they're cringe interviews.
I mean, did you see that control

960
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:13.399
uh mission control that they had.
It was just so awful, you know,

961
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:18.000
last one, it's current half.
It's so cringe to even to watch,

962
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.279
to listen to the interviews. Uh
you know, you know again,

963
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:26.159
the guys that when you look at
the the the initial you know, Neil

964
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.359
Armstrong, Buzz Alderman. You know, when they were coming down in their

965
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:32.920
first interview, it looks like they're
sitting at a funeral, you know,

966
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:39.000
versus you know, being hey,
I just walked, you know at it's

967
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:44.359
like, you know, just the
so that that's really what it well,

968
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.520
I was thinking was the main things
that started making me go, Okay,

969
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.680
this is come. We're just we've
been lied to. We've been lied to.

970
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:58.319
I always compare the moon landing guys
to you know, you see people

971
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:01.520
who win championships, whether it be
Michael Jordan or the guy from the Kansas

972
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:06.640
City Chiefs, they've they've just won
football games in there and every commercial champagne

973
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:11.600
hoppers going on. They should they
should have had their own line of sneakers

974
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:16.760
looked. Yeah, the Air Armstrongs
come on, you know, and and

975
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:19.479
I mean, and then you know
all the guys and the guy they used

976
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:24.840
to go around and confront on me, the guy with the Bible, Yeah

977
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:30.039
yeah that was real. Yeah yeah, so but yeah, I just you

978
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.159
know, like I said, that's
that's and and then just again the the

979
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:40.520
math, everything that they say is
is a you know gravity. It's all

980
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:44.479
a cover, it's all a cover
to to for the globe Earth, you

981
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:48.439
know, and it just none of
it makes sense, all the the in

982
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:54.720
the the six sixty six uh numbers
that were with you know, with how

983
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:59.600
fast we rotate, you know,
how one around the sun. You know.

984
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:05.560
Yeah. So, but i mean
I'm still I'm very you know,

985
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:12.000
looking into it, researching it constantly. I mean I'm every day I want

986
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:15.760
to disprove it, but I can't. You can't. No, There's just

987
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:18.119
it makes so much sense. And
then for me, and I'm sure like

988
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:21.800
many other people we've had on and
people who would listen to me, it

989
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:29.920
made the Bible much clearer as well. Absolutely absolutely when you when you read

990
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:31.600
the Bible and you read the four
Pillars and you read the circle, and

991
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:38.199
you you know, like I said
that that really opens it up. I

992
01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:44.039
Mean there's there's one i think infographic
in there. It has every single Bible

993
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:46.760
thing that refers to flat earth.
It's like two hundred and something different terms

994
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:51.880
or scriptures in there that refer to
flat earth. Yeah. The big one

995
01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:56.840
for me, you know obviously when
you really think about the Tower of Babel

996
01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:00.640
and then was it Joshua ten thirteen, which talks about the sun of the

997
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:05.039
moon standing still right, Yes,
that's it, That's exactly it. And

998
01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:10.119
and that's what what do you think
the moon is? Do you think it's

999
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:15.800
Do you think it's just the projection
a lot? Uh? And you think

1000
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.840
it's an actual surface? It could
be a projection on the firmament. I

1001
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:23.119
know it's I don't feel like it's
two hundred and thirty nine thousand miles away.

1002
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:27.439
The sun Surreundy isn't ey three million
miles away. But the fact that

1003
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:30.359
they continue to try to lie to
us about man landing on the moon to

1004
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.239
me, like I used to laugh
at it when I first became a flat

1005
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:38.520
earther, now it really makes me
angry because I understand that people are a

1006
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:45.840
lot. It's just because it's constant
line. Yeah exactly, so yeah it

1007
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:51.760
does and and and it's and and
what's what's again amazing to me is that

1008
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:58.399
how quickly people can dismiss it.
Now well, either when you present so

1009
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:03.239
many so much evidence, see them
still just don't want to mean the normals

1010
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:08.479
you bias or just they can't get
past it and they just know what what

1011
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:13.600
I mean. You can literally watch
somebody who just the the programming start going

1012
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:17.079
in their head like they're just starting
well when you say that, or just

1013
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:24.720
like I said, kind of glaze
over. And that takes me completely back

1014
01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:28.079
full circle to like, you know, if we want to make change,

1015
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:31.399
how the changes like we got into
a little bit earlier in the podcast,

1016
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:38.840
but to me, it's it's how
do I like completely we'll save you Eve.

1017
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:42.199
I don't want to say destroy,
but you need to completely break down

1018
01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:45.640
and remodel our education system. Like
the young men and ween should be outside

1019
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:50.239
from March April and May. They
should be rabbits, chickens, you know,

1020
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:56.560
all kinds of sitting in a chair
for It boggles my mind that we

1021
01:16:56.640 --> 01:17:00.960
sat in that classroom for thirteen years
and we came out with such a little

1022
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:04.520
no yeah, such little knowledge.
Well because they don't want that, I

1023
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:10.720
mean again, go go uh you
know, go reach Charlotte Iszerby's uh little

1024
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:14.960
dumbing Down of America like seven hundred
pages. There's several other authors that have

1025
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.239
come out with do with folk as
well, but it just talks about how

1026
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:21.439
that that's what they wanted. The
rocket system, you know, the the

1027
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:25.600
guy that did the Dewey decimal system, that he was a communist. I

1028
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:30.560
mean they went over to h Russia
and then and got their playbook, and

1029
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:34.000
they wanted that. All they wanted
was workers, them helpless, you know,

1030
01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:38.640
workers that were you know, enough
to tell me, like George Carlos

1031
01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:44.600
Sis smart enough to move turn the
machines, but not ask questions. And

1032
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:46.000
that's really what the end of the
day, what they want. But now

1033
01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:49.479
that they have too much, too
many of us, So that's how they

1034
01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:55.399
you know, through our diet and
through our food and environment and kim trails,

1035
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.720
they're poisoning us slowly so we die
earlier so they don't have to pay

1036
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:02.680
a social security and they want to
raise our retirement age even further now,

1037
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.239
but they're quick to our money away. You'll never get there a whim right,

1038
01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:11.720
unbelievab By the way, I will
do my best to find a PDF

1039
01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:15.880
link to Charlotte's book. I have
it. I got it a while ago

1040
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:17.560
in eBay. It's like, oh, it's over one hundred bucks now though,

1041
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.239
Oh is it? Oh? Yeah, if you go and I used

1042
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.760
to have yeah, I used to
have a EF that I need to find.

1043
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.119
I'm sure it's out there. Yeah, I'll find it and I'll put

1044
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.920
it in the link to the show
description and her family was all tied into

1045
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:36.479
skull and bones. Father. Yep, it this comes at little circle,

1046
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:43.039
you know, it does one hundred. It's been a great conversation where where

1047
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:45.800
we're nearing our our ninety minute marks. I wanted to give you a chance.

1048
01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:48.000
If there's nothing that you had a
chance to mention yet, please do

1049
01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:53.479
so at this time. Well,
I think I covered most everything I wanted

1050
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:59.279
to, you know, I think
that you know closing, I mean,

1051
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:03.359
I think we are not at the
end of the day. I'm not sure

1052
01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:09.039
we're here but change the world.
We're here to go through the world and

1053
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:13.920
help as many people as we can. That's that's what I feel. As

1054
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:18.920
like I said, our ultimate goal, you know, and you know I

1055
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:28.119
it's it's it's very easy these days, I think to be cynical, you

1056
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:31.840
know. I mean, I I
hope that and kind of what you were

1057
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:35.359
talking about. As far as you
know, again, educating our children.

1058
01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:40.439
I I can't send my kid to
a private school at this point, although

1059
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:44.000
I do to my own education.
You know, I think we have to

1060
01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:47.119
be able to supplement. If you
can't send your kids, can't homeschool and

1061
01:19:47.239 --> 01:19:50.159
can't come to a private you know, even private schools that I know about

1062
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:56.000
these days. But make sure that
you're supplementing their education, you know.

1063
01:19:56.279 --> 01:20:00.520
And and I started opening up that
conversation U with with Jake about you know,

1064
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.119
the shape of the earth and you
know, what do you think about

1065
01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:09.560
this, and sort of asking him
questions, you know, helping. I

1066
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:12.920
think we just need to have more
critical thinkers, you know. I think

1067
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.920
with this tik talk the world that
we live in and this, this,

1068
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:24.800
this, you know, our attention
span has gone like lower than a goldfish.

1069
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:28.840
Now, these kids, I just
I my heart goes out to them.

1070
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.720
I'm just I'm seeing them going down
these bad paths, you know.

1071
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:35.279
I mean, I have a thirteen
year old niece next door, and you

1072
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:39.239
know, and I see her,
you know, miaming songs on talk,

1073
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:42.199
dancing with her. I'm like,
what is that? What is that?

1074
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:45.119
What are you doing there? I
mean, you know, I just that's

1075
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:48.680
kids eager to get out of the
house anymore. When I was fifteen,

1076
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:53.079
George again gen x man, I
couldn't wait to get a car. I

1077
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:56.880
couldn't wait to get outside and go
cruising around. And they grew up in

1078
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.560
the sack and drink some and you
know, go skateboard. I mean that

1079
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:05.199
was what I just don't understand this, this the screen time that these these

1080
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:10.159
portals that we put these children,
and then we wonder why they're entitled.

1081
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:15.439
We wonder why that they don't want
to ever go outside and do anything,

1082
01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:19.079
you know, take them away from
that. I just started doing metal acting

1083
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:23.359
with my son, that's all I
mean. I think that's that's a cool,

1084
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:26.680
uh cool thing we could do outside. We found some cool stuff.

1085
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.399
So I mean, I'm big into
history. You know, I've done I'm

1086
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.680
big genealogists as you know, scrugs. I've you know, got I traced

1087
01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:38.680
our name all the way back to
uh in Norway, King Trigg, all

1088
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:41.960
the way way over to England.
We came over in the sixteen hundreds,

1089
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.239
all the way through to the South
to Mississippi into Texas in eighteen forty five.

1090
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:48.680
So it's I mean, you know
your history. I think that's the

1091
01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:54.279
thing that people don't are getting far
away from is they don't even know where

1092
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:58.319
they came from. Yeah, that's
funny you said that. We we've had

1093
01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:01.279
a metal detector for a few years
and when we first moved to this property.

1094
01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:04.159
We found a cool but obviously Delaware
is a very old you know.

1095
01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:10.279
Oh yeah, goes way back to
the seventeen hundreds. So we found a

1096
01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:14.520
cool few, a cool few things. And it's something me and my daughter

1097
01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:17.720
do every now and then we go
down there's a beach, Bowers Beach,

1098
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:20.239
which is thirty minutes east of us. We'll go down there and find some

1099
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:24.119
stuff and she'll get some seashells.
It's so important, and you're right,

1100
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:28.239
we have enough distractions and that's what
it's all about with the controllers, to

1101
01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:31.159
hide God and to keep us so
busy. If they raise the cost of

1102
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:34.600
living, that means we have to
work more hours, which gives us less

1103
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:40.680
time with our children and less time
with God's that's what they want. Yep,

1104
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:44.920
that's they want. A thousand percent. It's been a great, great

1105
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:46.239
interview, and I'll give you the
final word to the audience. So I

1106
01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:54.039
appreciate it. Yeah, just go
in peace, prosper and be fruitful.

1107
01:22:55.760 --> 01:23:04.439
Yes, make babies there you go. Don't believe the carbon We're not overpopulating.

1108
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:09.720
No, yeah, yeah, what's
oh that was my one question.

1109
01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:11.840
I said, I'm sorry, Do
we have time? Yeah? I just

1110
01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:15.359
wanted to ask you one more thing. Uh huh is Elon Muskin on the

1111
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:17.640
you know? Oh Elon Muskin,
Oh, one hundred percent. Don't forget

1112
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:24.399
just seven years ago, conservatives love
that guy. What you want to put

1113
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:27.119
it chip in my brain? Are
you kidding me? And then he said

1114
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:29.560
I'm taking over Twitter, I'm bringing
free speech, and all of a sudden

1115
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:34.399
he was championed by the Yeah,
and he guaranteed everybody their their accounts back.

1116
01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:39.000
I never got mine back. I
emailed the company several times and I

1117
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:43.640
had like over ten thousand followers or
whatever, you you know what. And

1118
01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:46.319
it's just again, if you if
you speak the truth, you're going to

1119
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:50.960
get plucked out of the sky,
right right. Yeah, I just you

1120
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.600
know, like I said, everybody
thinks he's the hero. Now I know,

1121
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:59.119
I'm just like, but look what
he's behind space Didn't one questions that

1122
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:05.359
space brain ships? Ai. I
mean, it's like everything Satan, I

1123
01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:14.279
mean inorporated unbelieve you unbelievable. Well
again, thank thank you for your timing

1124
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:17.720
you yeah, absolutely sharing your thoughts
and to the listeners, thank you so

1125
01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:21.920
much for your continued support and your
emails. And we'll send out another batch

1126
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:28.319
of emails later this week inviting you
onto the podcast, and thanks again for

1127
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:31.840
everyone again for your continued support,
and we'll talk again soon. And until

1128
01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:35.399
we do, everybody, keep your
head on a swivel and we will see

1129
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:46.359
you. I know it's been struggle. I don't know you've had somepin I

1130
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:55.439
don't know you feel the tie held
down all the way? Yeah, I

1131
01:24:55.600 --> 01:25:03.680
know you feel them. You smile
ain't the same, that's all well go

1132
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:14.159
from you feel like you've lost your
way. Don't give up. No,

1133
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:19.960
don't give it, and neverless home. Don't let call the primise. It

1134
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:26.680
ain't done yet. He's got up
glad. Why it's a way time got

1135
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:43.760
up? Mammy? Come? Why
wait God m call, I can see

1136
01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:51.319
the straight beside you. Child's are
putting up five. Oh you're stronger than

1137
01:25:51.359 --> 01:26:00.600
any thing. Yeah, you're gonna
be all right. You're accepting up dead,

1138
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:08.520
found you beautiful. You're shoving ride. Yeah, you're living, breathing,

1139
01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:17.199
move you can hold your head a
pie. Don't give up. No,

1140
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:24.279
don't give in, never lose home. Don't let go on the primies.

1141
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:30.680
It ain't done Yet's God up plan? Why some way down the God

1142
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:36.119
of me became me don't give up, No, don't give in you never

1143
01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:42.359
love home, don't let go on
the primies. It ain't don of life.

1144
01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:47.359
It's worth live men, wat's a
way down the god up? Mabel,

1145
01:26:51.359 --> 01:27:00.399
Why it's a way down? Got
up? Oh? Yes, what

1146
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:20.880
the bray down the god? Oh
yeah, got called. Don't give up,

1147
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:27.079
no, don't give in? Never
los alve? Don't they go of

1148
01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:30.600
the primis? I mean and done? Yes, God, I play?

1149
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:41.880
Whats kind of I cos? Don't
give no dog giving whatever the home?

1150
01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:46.479
Don't they go of the crimes?
It ain't done. Lover's worth eh,

1151
01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:59.359
what's and die? The god of
every cos? Oh, the god of

1152
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:17.479
me? Why? Dog God?
You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.

1153
01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:23.840
Just the facts, ma'am. M
hm