Arise, millions, and welcome to this unmade gaming production. Joined the crew
of the Defiant as they journey through the Third Horizon at the Mercy of the
Icons, trying to understand just what's happening to the mystics in this Coriolist campaign
Void. The show you're about to listen to was originally a live stream actual
play on twitch dot tv slash on Made Gaming. Who's gonna be a Rise?
Oh? Are we live? Oh? Okay, who you are?
Are we? Yes? Hi? So slick Mike. We were begging him
to go live. We deserved that. Yeah, we've been just sticking around
for Welcome to the most psychedelic show on twin Alright, Medians and welcome aroused
Mike. We're aroused or yeah, be aroused, minions. Uh, this
is it. This is what you got. Um. If you like this,
fucking stick around because in the season two we're gonna be doing this but
recording it and putting it on Patreon, so you can check that out there.
But for now, this is what you got. You got us.
Do you get half of Joey's face with my head behind it? You got
you know? This is just it. Let me tell you, this is
not only the most psychedelic, it's the greatest show on Twitch. Is what
I heard. Mike says that what you said, Mike, I don't think
I've ever said those words exactly what he said, thank you, thank you.
We've already clipped it, so like there's there's that. I don't think
that's true. That's true. I heard it was. Yeah, you know,
and we know that my sources, Mike are bad best bad. Oh
wow, So you all die in Space season too. That's what's Mike,
That's what season two is called, You all in Space. Oh, that's
that's how I do it. The end of a coreolist campaign. There it
is, there, it is. That's what I wanted everyone. Oh my
gosh, everyone please do that. Yeah, send that, Send that to
this pot yeah, can you please? Oh god, oh no, whoah,
oh no, take the take the take the space image and use that
as your background. Space. It's just a white background. I love how
the smart green screen for this is so choppy. It literally looks like you
just took like lines, just like yeah, yeah, it looks like it's
it's it's because so many people are working from home right now, and what
probably happened is Zoom came out and nobody was terribly embarrassed by their homes being
in their work video, and it was like, we had a quick solution
to this, so they did a massive update. I've never seen anybody use
it until resonly it's because it's because you have to upgrade to four point six,
which fucks everyone's twitch stream. So because I have the upgrade, that's
why it looks you know, that's why it's it's fixed. Issh oh yeah,
Well anyway, hello guys, Yeah, this is this is the whole
show. This is the whole show. Team, this is this is it.
You wanted this, you demanded for whatever the fuck this is, and
it's your fault. So it's okay, wow, that's definitely that's Mike,
Well definitely, um so take the way doting. What exactly are we doing
doing? So okay, if you want to know what I had on a
to do list for us, it was to shit. Do you even know
me? Do you know the crew? Do you even know me? I
have a list. I actually have written down questions of what I was going
to ask you certain notes an episode four. Thank you, Joey. Okay,
there are so many things that I love hearing. When your players get
to the point they stop taking notes, it's because they're listening, which makes
me very happy to hear too. I don't write notes. I never ever
write notes ever. Something I have tried to start writing notes. I'm not
very good. It doesn't help me. That's that's the reason why. Like,
I understand some people write notes for D and D and stuff, But
when I write notes, I am stupid. And when I read them notes,
I'm just like, I don't remember what these notes are about. So
then the whole page in book is just pointless, and I'm like, all
right, well I just wasted to treat you. Can you could get one
of those notebooks like I have, which is a dry race notebook they you
know, waste trees as let's have said. It's got little red bullet points.
A little red bullet points. Yes, Mike, Yes that happened,
one of those that's what Oh is that what you used to use? Yeah?
Um? So yes. I had some things, which is we should
talk about upgrading the vessel the Defiant. I had of feeling that there were
some parts that wanted to be bought, so I thought it might be kind
of cool to like let the audience in on some of the like I don't
know mechanics of purchasing things and what stuff costs and how that works. Um,
you on may want to level or like take some experience and spend it
if you haven't already, because you earned one per game and then one game
I gave you two. Yeah yeah, yeah, thirteen points is what you
got the full season. I've been I've been upgrading them great, perfect as
you've gone. I love it, Okay, great, um, And then
I was gonna just leave it open for discussion and questions. We should decide
if this is a spoiler stream of the like of our like our like For
example, Paul, are your questions story related, their character related? Their
character related? Yeah, more stuff like things I was wondering about. Oh
okay, then how about this. If we get to a point where there
could be spoilers, I will, we will, then we'll pitch the spoiler
question. Other than that, if we feel like it's not going to spoil
anything for the audience for season two, like questions more of the sense of
like I would like to get to know the character better, that kind of
deal. Oh yeah, like you know, like what was like Malika and
Tamir's relationship when they were living in Olgor, Like, how was their dynamic,
how did they survive? Like what kind of character exactys built on that?
You know, while on the ship with talent their sister, were there
any interesting things that kind of pushed the sisterhood away? Because since it seems
like there's such different personalities, you know, like stuff like that, That's
what I really had questions for, which, of course, we can find
out down the line in season two. However, I'm impatient and I wanted
to know. That's fine, I'm down for that. I'm down to make
up backstory in the spot. Ok alright, I will say I really feel
like you have an overdeveloped sense of how much story we have and how much
improv we've been doing. Yeah, honest, I'll be honest. Paul hasn't
me the most backstory. I thought that allowed very very closely by Harris,
but most from Paul. What you have that much, which shows you what
you have for me is all we have we've developed, like everybody works differently.
Yeah, I think so that's it's interesting to showcase that and this and
the shows like this too, because it would let people who watch understand it.
There's no right or wrong way to prepare for a show because you have
such a large dynamic of different role players here, you know. And then
I have a fog ton of DM questions, you know. But we'll ask
a why sir well before you, before you jump into question mode, I
am going to say, first of all, a man, that's not our
shirt. It's a stupid filter that she's using to freak everyone out. But
I will sure everyone in chat if you have questions for the players, if
you have questions for the GM, if you have questions in general, uh,
please preface it with the word question. And then if it's for someone,
put their name in there somewhere so that we know so that what sticks
out in the thing or at me or both do both of those things at
me and use the word way yeah, Sam, Yet don't do that ye
each way all the well the answer so, actually, instead of prefacing it
with question, can we preface it with yat colony looks So you've got a
goddamn emote out of this bullshit. Stop telling them to spam that word in
my chat. You gotta if you don't have soon. But um, what
Mike was saying, like, consider today like a Q and a stream.
You know, you guys have a chance to ask us anything about our characters,
ask dot about her GMing abilities and all that stuff. So go white
ahead, I mean right ahead, now, white ahead. On um,
there there's a question that that sparked this whole thing. Is the next season
planned for twelve episodes as well? Yes, yes it is, it is
planned for I'm ignoring you, eat your God and shut your mouth. I
will say that the next season has planned for at least twelve episodes, Shoulder,
this is what I'll say. Season two is at least twelve episodes.
At least dot dot twelve dot dot dot dot dot dot. It's at least
twelve episodes. Chat I. The exact number of episodes is how many mic
things he can get out of me, because I do actually have a Thursday
group that I stopped playing with the come play here, and I actually enjoyed
myself so much I stayed on for another season. So what I'm hearing is,
if you guys really like Arison want her to play in season three a
void, head over to aristovat dot com and buy yourself some dice accessories,
like a dice bag or a dice tray or I don't know if you can
bribe me by by or I mean we're gonna start somewhere exactly, give us
a launch point them listen. If we have to pay you to be our
friend, we're gonna do it. Um, there was a question for you,
Aris, what inspires your character concept? Oh? So, first Han
solo and second Um, and this is gonna sound funny, but another character
off of another show. Her name is Kessra and she is on Fate's Chosen
which is on Open for Adventure. Um. She's got pretty surly attitude,
but she's got a lot more layers than it seems, and really it just
covers up a heart of gold. And when she you know, when she
cares about someone, she will fiercely protect them no matter what it costs her.
But for the most part, she just rather not deal with anybody she
doesn't have to. Okay, okay, Um, we have two more questions.
I'm going to roll them into one because they're applicable to both. One
of them is from UH Strike Redcot the other one is from UH Cash with
a Ghost. Um, No one, what inspired your character? And for
Nom and Mike, when did you decide to be brothers in the show.
I'm pretty sure the answer is the same for both of them, which was
immediately and what inspired the characters Joey Uh, definitely yeah, fullman Alchemist.
Yeah, that's no fucking doubt. I've always wanted to play brothers and I've
always wanted to play brothers as ed Al and we have our l it is
my dream story comes who. Uh he's he's Alphons. Yeah, I can
see that. Yeah, definitely makes sense. Right, He's he's a He's
a sweet, kind hearted soft boy. Um in a chunkin armor. He's
in armor at all time. Stop just keep doing it. We love it.
Do stop stop don I'm not actually just gonna not ask you any of
the questions that come from you just here all night. And just the way
Dot has fangs on, Oh god, it's so fucking extra. Yeah.
We wanted to be when did we? We just were we were bullshitting about
ideas. I think we were texting back and forth while we were both at
work, uh, and trying to decide what we wanted to play, and
I don't remember. I think I think the idea was was just positive between
the two of us. What if we were brothers, Um, and you
know. Then then, like I think, backstory just unfolded as it came
up. We're like, oh, we'll be from alcohol, will be on
the thing. And he was like, I want to go to school,
and I was like, cool, well we'll figure some shit out. Maybe
I work for the syndicate because I wanted a cool syndicate power. And then
we just sort of built it from there. And so basically what you see
in episode one was our entire backstory for the majority of the thing. It
took. It took at least eight episodes, I think in me constantly texting
Mike, how did our parents die? Yeah? Mike, did we ever
pick how our parents got killed? We did? We did. We picked
up what what? What's up with the parents? Hey, buddy, Um,
our parents are dead? How? Yeah? Okay, I just want
to say, for the record, not to hug the spotlight. That's true.
And he did continuously ask me, but offer zero input as to how
he thought they should be killed. He only said, Mike, I did
you decide for us how our parents died? I then said, oh,
maybe they were literally just crushed by the way. No, you didn't,
I I said, I said, what if they died if they did say
that. We had a private text conversation and I saw industry. We were
on a call. We were on a call. Yes, yes, that's
true, because that's true. I both remember we were on a call.
Yes, correct. But this is a text conversation from before that where his
contribution was what if they literally died by being crushed by So I said,
what if they were questioned the oppressive heel of Like Corporation? And his contribution
was what if it was literally? And I was like, all right,
well that's so. Don't try to say that you had ideals, you just
didn't know. It was great. It's a good idea. Oh god,
that's so phenomenal. Who we have for questions? Uh? Question for I
should be moderating. Sorry, Mike, Now you're a good question for dot
What is your favorite Dark Points sabotage from me? My favorite? Okay,
I'll tell you my favorite. Okay, my favorite? In fact, it
inspired this week this past Sunday Funday. Is Coriolis one shot that tied into
your storyline. That was really cool. I was there, Wait what yeah,
oh you ran them? Oh that's right, Yeah, it ran a
Coriolis one dry okay, so my favorite. My favorite was the appearance of
the Gin. So I used the darkness point to play the gym card,
which of course was brought through when you made the jump to talent Um for
if you didn't pick up on it in terms of gameplay, basically, them
crashing through and passing the third UH or like the Terran space to the first
horizon broke open a gin cage cage to some degree. It allowed a Gin
to literally catch a ride on your vessel out of the first horizon was originally
my plan, and then the Sunday Funday happened. And at the end,
all I'm going to say is at the end, UH, they are trying
to get off a crash lined surprise UH. And when they get to a
new vessel, the only thing left on the vessel there's no people, there's
no nothing. There's a container kind of like an urn, and after a
sandstorm, it spills open and it lets out agin and offers one of them
a wish, and the one person wishes because they were a premonition and they
had a premonition about Tao's sister. Oh yeah, that was the thing that
happened. Oh my gosh, I need to go back, and yeah,
you need to go back and watch it. There was a there was a
call, and we know you find out what happens to our priestess as well
the missing priestess. Oh and you guys can catch this was the first Dot's
channel or one on her YouTube as soon as she gives me the goddamn video
to edit for her or did you actually edit it yourself? I don't edit
anymore Mike Twist YouTube. I'm sorry, everybody, listen, I'm a literal
single Dot. I've offered, he has offered, but I okay, regardless,
let me finish this rant. So that my favorite darkness it was this
because when it's spilled open, the wish that they wished for was for the
um for them to help end the decides, and so the Gin left and
hits the ride on your vessel into the talent system. So it was because
of a wish of another that the Gin ended up where they are and they
have to fulfill. So they hitched a ride to Coreolis with all of you.
Interesting. Um, okay, so I have So my favorite one was
the Gin coming into play because it inspired so much more story. Okay,
love it, I did it I refreshed to chat. Damn it, it's
right, I didn't so I have it all. Thank god. Boo boop
boop streams changed. Uh. Um cool. I guess we should be just
talking, just chatting, just just whatever that I think you can remain because
we're talking about we're talking about the show. So general question here for anyone
to jump in an answer. If you had to balance out an unbalanced character,
how would you try to balance your game without killing the rest of the
group. My answer is, there's no other thing as an unbalanced character.
That's it. People are unbalanced in life, yeah, um, like in
actuality, Like some people are frail and very intelligent. Um, some people
are very very strong and not like those those stereotypes come out of real people.
Um. So I think when you look at like extremes, uh,
it's it's a place where, if you know, you just kind of have
to lean into it. Yeah, use that term lean in. Um,
accept it for what it is as an anomaly, right, which are like
the tallest and the biggest are always the anomally, the brightest and the boldest
are always the anomaly. They're an anomaly. So how do you deal with
an anomally you don't. I think a great example was when and the Dancer,
the first encounter was sold into the answer like the Dancer was extremely overpowering
compared to the Soul, but a good way to batize. If I met
the dumb decision to fight it, I would probably have died, you know
what I mean? And you just got to accept it. That's just life.
Sometimes you go down the wrong alleyway and you meet the foe that you
can't face. But she provided opportunity for me to leave. So I think
that's something important. Like produce your scene, produce your characters, but always
have opportunities, no matter how small or big that they are, so the
characters can decide how what their faith is. Yep. Yeah, it's about
allowing them still to make choice, right because for whatever reason, when they
build that character, right, whenever they build that character, they were inspired
by something. So instead of crushing a creativity in the creation process, it's
better to just lean into it. Yeah. Usually when you're speaking about an
unbalanced character, it's it's usually in a combat sense or in a combat heavy
game, more of them than not, And you don't need to counterbalance an
an op character. Hell, I think more gms than you expect. Don't
even make balanced. And to begin with, I just grow random monsters that
sound cool and fit at you do you. I build balance at the encounters.
If I'm going to have an encounter, if I'm going to have an
encounter, a combat encounter, I'm going to make sure to balance it like
for and I'll do different things like in this case. I knew going into
any combat encounter that Tamirror is never going to fire a weapon, which means
that I need to think about how many I saw that Look, how many
um like creatures can be taken on at once um and more importantly, to
provide opportunity regardless of how much damage is taken for things to happen like Soul
going down so that Tamir can use his brains to solve the problem. Soul
going down the first time was partially tied to story, but was actually there
to give to Mirror something to draw him out for hashtag fu Mirror. Right,
Yeah, so we we could get that at one moment and set up
for his what I knew was going to be a stab in a literal stab
in the gut moment for your backstory. But I but but that was That's
how I balanced to that encounter. So anytime we go into when I'm like,
Okay, who's at my table? Do we have a lot of fighters?
Great that I'm just going to toss as many dudes at them as they
can handle. Right, But you're not doing like like in D and D.
You're not like going through like CR and making a perfectly numerically balanced combat.
Right, there is no exactly That's what I'm saying, Like, if
I will throw a combat at you that sounds narratively applicable and that I think
you can handle, and that's as far as I go for balance, do
I feel good about this combat that you guys are going to have fun,
it'll be cinematic, and that you guys will more than likely succeed. Yeah,
all right, fuck it, I'm throwing that at you. Um uh
hold on, I'm being messaged because I am un professional? Should we change
the stream title? Yes? We did that. Ignore this behind, You're
way behind. Stop. This is this is how you professionally again, Mike,
You're pretty thank you. Question for the players, what do you do
both in and out of character if your party member, if your party encounters
a monster boss party that you are obviously unprepared for. I think that entire
season one. Yeah, I think that's ever. I would love to be
unprepared for every encounter that we face, if I've had time to prepare.
It's it's far more like logistical, Like you prepare for a war. You
barely prepare for an encounter, right, unless you're like I'm going to fight
a dragon or I'm going to fight this gin. Right, There's it's rare
that you are prepared for the combat that happens or the encounter that happens.
In my opinion, I mean I always tell my players there is no shame
in running, yes, agreed, there is no shame in getting the fuck
out of there, and some things you're not supposed to win, right right,
Yeah, that's it too. So it's nice to have a table of
players are like when they come up against say, I don't know a gin
that takes over the ship, they don't try to I don't know attack it.
No, you fucking make a deal with it because you know pretty good
powerful thing. Yes, exactly. So that's why she's the smart one.
That's why she's our pilot. Um, if it was anybody else, we
would have been Space. Huh yeah, um uh no, my mom wants
to tell you that they've left Nomanski for Animal Crossing. They have betrayed me.
Um and I mean we all have. I know, I know right
now, I almost picked up Space today, but I just I had a
lot of stuff coming through the mail. God Golly. For the record,
y'all have made me want to play Animal Crossing so badly. I had a
dream that someone sent me a switch with Animal Crossing, crying because it was
dream. Thanks assholes. Okay, so hashtags switch it's dot. It should
be the stitch bitch or twitch or switch stitch bitch. It's yeah, you
change all your stuff to the stitch bitch from rhymes the stitch bitch on twitch
switch. You know, I almost made my show called Stitching and Bitching instead
of stitchy pics. Love that. Well, you should, like you should
do like a like a coffee talk right where you just chatting, just chatting,
where it's called stitching and bitching, where you just hang out and you're
like do whatever and just chilling. I think that's phenomenal. That's amazing.
This is this is my favorite question so far by snow Dogs. Who is
Molik's favorite fellow crew member. And why is it soul Um it's his girlfriend.
It's uh yeah, I mean if if you take him to mirror out
of the picture, Um, I mean it would it would likely be Suel.
Yeah, because I don't think. I don't think Malik. He doesn't
dislike Tale. He's just confident the Tale dislikes him. And usually he wins
people over with his charm or pisses them off completely in your neutral and he
doesn't know how to deal with the neutrality that is tal like you just tolerate
him and he doesn't get a strong reaction in either way, and so like
he doesn't know how to behave around you because it's usually either one polar opposite
um and uh. He also thinks that Suel is a little dumb UM.
So he sees in his in his years of being with the Syndicate and doing
small non terrorist crimes, unlike someone else in the crew, Um, he's
skilled in manipulation. He sees Suel as someone who's both useful and also easy
to wipulate. Um. And that's why he makes that's why he likes Suelum
because he's pretty sure he can get him to do what he wants. I'm
just a pawn to you. Yeah, yeah, I mean to be fair.
He said that from like episode two, episode twelve. He's been pretty
upfront about that. He says it to you. Um question for everyone other
than your own character, who is everyone's favorite to watch role play? Come
from Paul, it's my favorite? Fuck yep, I have to agree.
Yep. It's got to be a unanimous phoney. I mean, aside from
Dot. Yeah, Dot is like the most Dot is the most interesting GM
to watch. I agree, that's terrifying. I would like, I just
love your facial expressions just so much. Probably go back to watch the show
We now do it together. God's your face. I love Dot's narrative more
than anything. The way she narrates a story is very engaging, and it
like grips you, but not in the aggressive, forced way. It's the
tone, It's the pacing a lot of things that people don't realize that you
can be a really good storyteller, but to be like a narrative, a
full voice. Pacing is pacing and free thing. Yeah, and there's a
it's marketing too, if you think about it. Pacing, speed, choice
of words, tone, all that is into thought process, and you can
tell she thinks about it. Tell her story. I'll tell you this.
I can tell you what I each love about each of your characters from role
player. Tell you I like swel obviously, m Paul. Watching you come
into your own as a role player has been absolutely just I think that's why
we love Paul. Yeah, yes, this does really new fresh faith.
Yeah, like love of it and it rends my fire. But at the
same time, like you came in, not to put you on blast year,
but you came in and you were like, I'm new at role playing,
and also you guys are powerhouse role players, and we're like, shut
up, just come play with us, um and see to see you go
from like I'm a baby role player to like completely hundred percent holding your own,
like right alongside, like not missing a beat, I'm like, fuck,
yeah, dude, hell yeah, that's awesome. I love it.
Y'all kill him? Yeah so so. But watching you play Soul, who
is we only find out so much later in the story is struggling in his
own rightful way, like emotionally and mentally based on like the job that he's
had to do, which explains so much of the Dias like kind of outright,
kind of weird decisions he made early on in this role play. I
just thought you had it really nicely. Um. I have to be honest.
The unspoken sexual tension between Tear and Twn, Yeah, yeah, beautifully
done. It's not it's not heavy handed. It's just enough that you know
that they care about each other and they've had these like singular moments. It
just feels very genuine, and I just think it's just one of those moments
in a very dark show like this that shids a spec of that level of
like empathy and um ethos we look for in like a story as people.
I just think it's really um. I think it's really great. Also,
I will I will request from now on, at anytime you see those interactions
in the next season, in all future seasons, please hashtag let my people
smogeh god um. And then I have to say, Mike, UM,
I love putting you in tough situations, tough social situations, because we're we're
similar gems and that like or end players, and we thrive and like improvised
role playing. Yeah, that's where our characters thrive, which means that I
can come to the table would say a quirky doctor UM, and how you
mitigate I can't prepare for how you mitigate that, So it's always very genuine
and I really enjoy role playing with you. I was gonna say the same
thing. I enjoy watching you GM, but it's the weirdest reason, Like
you're amazingly talented and a one of come. However, I feel like we
have a very similar GM style and I can't watch myself GM, but watching
you GM is how I imagine that IgM. So I'm like, yeah,
you're killing it DOT. I'm like, and I'm also pretty also killing it
back. I'm not mad. That's how. That's how I think IgM.
And she's killing it. I can't be mad. I can't be too mad.
But yeah, I thoroughly enjoy watching you GM. I think this is
the first time you've been playing on the channel for like a year, but
this is the first time you GMed on the channel, So this I think
it's for the first time you've ever GMed for me, which is I think
that's actually true. We've always played together, Yeah, yeah, are you
GMM? Yeah, And I've been there to your story. It's been a
goddamn blast, and I feel like, yes, this is appropriate, right
like you with with with Joey in Men of Letters, you fucking obliterated so
much plot because you were nonsense. And I feel like the tables. Joey
was all business. Joey was fab joe was all business. Story needed.
Joey okay joy he was. He was business of He was a business.
Joey blizz off selling papers on the street corner until he got picked up and
turned in realized that he was just an experiment. It wasn't his fault.
It wasn't Joey's fault. And you know what, blast of a check.
Joey beat a few things with a newspaper and really tried to make this situation
better. I don't remember how you convinced me to give you a magical newspaper.
I was like, I want a newspaper that always tells a current news.
And he was like, well, that's right, isn't that the coolest
thing? I was like, he's a newsy. He would want a newspaper
that always and then he would roll it up and he would beat people with
its magical news. That's phenomenal. Damn, that's amazing, um Mike,
as Mike said, it kind of botched his very serious Configuus story. So
that's that's the thing, right, is like I think we can we can
say that about Coriolis as well, Like as the GM, you intend for
a serious game, and there were serious moments in Men of Letters, just
like there were serious moments in um In in Coriolis. But like you're you're
never going to survive contact with players. Um. And I also encourage beer
and Pretzel's silly hahas as long as you're not like stupid and over the top.
Yeah, if you're running away with story then it's a problem, but
like if we're using it. One of the things having done so much theater
and being around an audience is that over time, when we're watching things together
and we're all watching a story, we're actually our brains and breath proven scientifically
begin to function together twhich is interesting because we're not in a room together so
we can't read those signals. We still share in that like expressive like process
together, um, I feel like and being on the same page that.
Yeah, And there's also like I mean, behind the scenes, we have
the zoom window and like I don't know about everyone else, but there are
times where like I'm private messaging dot like hey, I'm gonna do some dumb
shit, or like I'm messaging like NOME like hey, we're in a scenario
right now that like either You're gonna do some dumb shit or I'm gonna do
some dumb shit. And he's like I got this, and then he goes
off and you know, locks locks me in a room or something like that,
or it tries to sacrifice himself to ghosts in space space ghosts ghost Coast.
But yeah, so I love I love the chatter at the table because
like laughter and things like that help alleviate high tensions of stress, which is
what we're doing where we're telling a story, and so it adds to comfortability
at the table. So they never stifle the moments that your players and the
table are having together, even if they're kind of jokey and funny, because
you'll know me like we'll have it and then I will like jerky right back
into it. I think. I think, just like in life, it's
good to have a balance of everything. You don't want too much serious,
you don't want too much comedy. A good show and a good life is
a balance of everything. So I think it's good to have a good amount
of laughter along with a good amount of tears, a good amount of what
the fuck moments? You know? Yes, yeah, And there have definitely
been episodes where we've left like laughing hysterically, and then we just bullshit and
hang out and tell funny jokes afterwards. And there have also been episodes where
we've left we're like, oh God, I am exhausted, and then we
just hang out and chat. We're like, I'm tired. Can we talk
about the scene that made us all tired, like the one where Soul killed
his own brother? Can we talk about that? Forty five minutes about it?
So you should know seul or Paul sent me Souls flashback because I asked
them all for a flashback first. He was the first one, and I
was like, we're not starting with that. Oh yeah, yeah, I
think we are not starting with that. And so yeah, because you would
come out and said, hey, I think this is gonna be the episode
for Souls and then it didn't actually happen for like three more episodes. Yeah,
I'm so glad it didn't happen for three more episodes, but the fact
that it didn't happen to like episode nine makes it that much better, like
it was such a more of a slow bird. Yep. Yeah. The
idea to add the flashbacks was part of something something I do as a GM
is usually after the first four or five episodes, I check in with everybody.
I'm like, how do you feel about your character? Do you want
to make changes? Now is the time if you're going to make change?
Like major change? And how are we all feeling? What do we need
more of? What do we need less of? And so I asked them
on I kept getting this response of like we want more character development, like
we want more character And I was like, cool, how do we feel
about flashbacks? Because I would like to add them as part of this like
storytelling process. So that's how it kind of came about. And so they
all came to the table kind of with their own idea of what they thought
was that important moment of a flashback that like defines a character at least for
where they are in their current phase. And so I wanted to work really
hard to weave those into the story in a way that wasn't distracting and didn't
feel off, but added to the current moment in time by flashing back to
something in the past, because that's what flashbacks really you're supposed to be.
I really really love the whole flashback idea because I think a good show,
whatever's TV, I'll play an op or whatever, people need to get invested
into the characters. And obviously you can get invested as you're playing, but
if you know about their history, you're like you can relate, Like you
can be like like the whole thing with talent their sister, like covering up
for your older sister or younger sister, and like protecting your siblings. Like
when she was telling your story, I had flashbacks of when my brother did
that for me, and I'm just like damn, like fuck, like I
care, you know. And then same with Mike and Tamir and like tam
making mistakes about the whole packages and stuff, being innocent to the real world
of Coriolis, Like that was me when I first went to New York for
job interviews and stuff and I didn't know what was going on, Like when
you got played by people around and you had no idea. Yeah, it's
all about being able to relate to the characters. I think that's what people
love about certain characters because you can relate to them, you can latch onto
them well. And I was looking for themes throughout and what was really interesting
is kind of across the characters, we started to get this theme of like
siblings and family, like across the baseline of like it's such a part of
human experience because Coriolis is a game about humans in space, like humans trying
to survive. It's not about really aliens and a massive takeover. It's about
our survival basically, and so it's day to day problems and as humans,
the thing that always sets us apart is that level of humanity, and so
much of humanity is tied to how you were brought up and how you were
raised and the people that were part of that. And so it was really
interesting that everybody's families in different ways, whether they're alive now or not,
we're just such a huge part of it. So it was something that a
theme I picked up and I was like, well, we'll running with it
because we speaking of siblings. I loved and this is just probably already said
multile time, but like Malik and Twmars like back and forth, like they're
dynamic as brothers. You felt like they were really like brothers. It wasn't
just like two actors playing a role like I felt like you guys, and
you can tell that Mike and Joey know each other by the way. I
don't say that. I don't be honest, I don't think we're role playing
little effort. When you get to that lover of comfort and you're playing with
people that you know, like it bleeds through your acting and through your role
playing and it just amplifies it so much. I will just really fun to
watch that, I will say in that same vein Um, speaking of that
specific role play and tabletop stories in general. Um, I met Joey a
year ago, so like playing tabletop with your friends, man, like I
met like I've been playing with Doc for over a year, and I've been
checking like I've been checking out as you know, she's been checking my my
channel. We've been on shows together before, but like I was aware that
Joey existed like a year and a half ago, but we never ever played
together. We barely interacted and then we like bumped into each other at a
convention and said hi, and that was it. And like a year after
that, we like hung out at a convention and now we're literal brothers.
Uh so, I mean playing tabletop games and make friends. Wait, was
it Cigars in Indianapolis? I did it? I think Cigars in Anapolis was
the first time we actually hung out at all. Yeah, the first time
I had met friends. Yeah, I was the first time I had met
uh Norman person. I had met Mike before, but yeah, yeah,
Cigars in Indianapolis was to jam up. Where did I bump? I bumped
into you at gen Con two years ago, right, I think somewhere someone
moved me. Yeah, No, I gen Con last year's my first gen
I don't know where I bumped into you. Oh. I bumped into you
at packs Unplugs. I hugged you for two seconds and then that was it,
and then I never saw you again, and then I appropriate and then
I met you at a gen Con for cigars. Very cistraight, very sisper.
I mean, let's be real here, way to call to be fair.
I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I picked Speedy up off of my lap to
go give you a hug. So let's just let let a little bit question
for Don. Did Amira know the bodies of the Corsairs were picking up outside
Hammurabi were filled with drugs. No, that's that fucking smile. That's that
she did not know that there were drugs. Um. Okay, So here
here's here's the alert. Spoiler alert for you that don't want spoilers. Mute
your sound. No one's going to mute. Great perfect Um. So she
is obviously a pirate that's well known. Um, not a spoiler. Um.
The ship the Corsairs, Yes, okay, the ship the Corsair is
her ship. Um. Which you all don't know because you didn't quite spend
enough time in the Hamra system is that it is overrun with pirates. Uh.
They've been taking a chill at the moment thanks to the massive explosion from
a portal where ships died and one went into the sun. But um,
the fact of the matter is she's been leading that and she's been hiding out
for months on the outskirts. Amira is not her real name, love it
right? No, But when we know though, because dad slips up,
yeahs, dad slips up, and she and she um, yes, he
did slip up. Uh and I wrote that on purpose and then she um
so yeah. So she's been out there hanging out, posing, posing basically
as a dancer to run an underground pirate ring that has made Remember before you
guys came here, they were like, oh, Hamiro's kind of rough,
be careful. So if you had stayed at Himira, you wouldn't You could
have gotten into a whole storyline based around the pirates um and then rating.
That was the other thing you didn't do a lot of, like looking into
the miners that were on like station side that come up to that that station,
the hammer Abbie station, Um, you would have found out like vessels
as they're trying to come back and forth are being looted and things like that.
So when the ship's exploded and what we what? So the drug ring
worked like this. The consortium is moving giving bodies, shipping them off to
Tawan where they're loading them full of unrefined powder the oh my god, what's
that stuff called the from the red ants and yes Umbra, thank you,
and it's being moved back to Coriolis and bodies where it's being process and then
moved back in bodies. That's why half the bodies had something in it.
Half the bodies did not, yep. And so what happened was when those
vessels that were headed in that were storing these bodies planned to get to town
when nobody knew the ships were going to explode when they went through a portal
dumped all these bodies. So her ship and her pirates started moving them in
because there's no telling what you can find on people's bodies in space, it's
just a thing. So they were going to basically be grave robbers, and
what they found was a mother load and half these bodies had drugs in them,
and they had no idea yea, and so they offered the bodies over
after rating the outside of them, not thinking to look on the inside,
and that's when the doctor found them on the inside of the bodies. So
that's kind of basically like the Gazzali was moving these bodies and then it exploded
and they were having a dump cargo. The freighter vessel that exploded was dumping
cargo. So there was like this whole back story I had written that none
of you knew anything about. And that's when Sewell talked to the dancer and
Soul talk to the date doctor stabbed in the chest. And now that's why
we have a doctor on board. No, don't fuck you Okay, that
was not. You have a doctor on board because she question from Mike for
not is the doctor's condition. Besides the correction directly related the doctor's insanity.
The doctor's insanity can be directly linked to Suel's actions. The doctor being aboard
your vessel is linked to the fact that you gave her your number. I
don't even remember did that? Yes, you did, remember you left.
You made it very clear to leave contact information. That's why when you got
on Coriolis, your message is paid because she had been leaving them for you.
That makes sense. That sounds like the one I would do. Um
is this which action was much more easier to your boy my entire you know,
one on one with crazy Assassin where I was trapped I don't know,
or Mike giving away a number to be fair, to be just, to
be fair. The only reason she's on the ship is because when she pinned
me, she was cuckoo for Coco puffs. And also I got the opinion
that she was a mystic, which both of the cuckoo and the mystic are
directly related to being stabbed. So if she wasn't stabbed, I would never
have invited her and the ship actually she wanted to Choreolis there to treat her,
ye would they shipped her to Correolis. They shipped her to Coreolis to
treat her right, And then she got if she hadn't been stabbed, she
would have never been on Coreolism. Take responsibility. It's your fault. That's
why to answer up this quick one in chat, because what's been plaguing you
for weeks is why the course sayer would bring the mules onto the station just
to steal the drugs back. They so lightning, they didn't know they were
drugs in those mules. They thought they were just dead bodies. They were
going to just raid dead bodies, and um pirates still have to play the
game, right, So basically the way I am, they found all these
dead bodies, they looted them for what was in their pockets and that kind
of stuff, if anything, and then found nothing. And so to keep
them off their backs, they came to the security on the station and said,
we're we're here are these bodies they're labeled to go to Coriolis, right,
Like, don't make yourself more guilty than you have to be. Because
the reason that that high end, what was it, Colonel or general was
on board. The one that Malik talked to is because they were there investigating
the pirates. That makes sense. There's a lot going on down There was
a lot going on in that station that like I knew about that you guys
never even touched. But it set up such a beautiful like foundation for what
we did get out of it. So that's why I just she was an
important character. And then I made the decision to tie her, because she's
a pirate to the one person that can help her move things. Drugs not
included obviously, because your father doesn't deal in drugs. Seul and I thought
it was the perfect tie end to tie her to the syndicate as a means
of like next step of moving whatever she finds in space. Well, in
the same vein, we have a question from magging mitis for a dot,
what has been the most polarizing incident in a game that made you go wow,
I really made them believe this story. It was, Um, I
don't like that smile that just happened. It was, it was, it
was. It was actually a pretty proud GM moment of thanks to Paul.
Before um the episode where we got Malik's backstory and Paul and Malik had this
brilliant role played seeing at the top where Sewel was reminding him like, you've
put your brother in danger. You've put your brother in danger even thinking about
what you're doing, which was so interesting because that was Paul's Paul's way of
providing Sewel's backstory of not being able to protect his brother, which none of
you knew about yet I knew about, but none of you did. And
then it was a perfect way to see the Mike's story and him falling asleep
into that basically that fever dream and the cry of stasis of him being like,
you know, you need to protect your brother, you need to protect
your brother, which oh ye remember that. And then you came out of
and you were like, you didn't you There's no way you could have planned
that, because I did not plan what I was going to say. And
I was like, I know, And it was a proud GM moment for
me. And it was the one that I thought, just like really sold
Malique and Soul as parallels to each other in a weird kind of way.
No, I see that, yeah, totally um and and and so it
almost connected the two characters for the first time in the game. Um,
at least for at least for me from like an audience perspective, I thought
it was a really nice connection of the two to have this basis of like,
one of them's already fallen and failed to protect their brothers, and one
of them is trying so desperately but failing, and it's it's it's watching it
happen again. See that's interesting. That's a very interesting take on it,
because I agree that we're we're parallels, but I see it as like parallels
that are opposite, right, is like, so whereas Seul realized the only
way to save you is and get you out of this whole life is to
kill you, it's skill, right. Whereas so he sacrificed his brother to
save his brothers and hidden behind the guys for his father, which is the
part we did not get to, that he did it to save the mission.
Yeah, where so he lives the lie of why you really did it?
Yeah? Whereas I think Joey and I actually had a conversation after the
last episode about malik Um and he's the opposite. He will take on any
burden possible to make Tamir's life better. Or easier, or at least perceived
to be better or easier. Um, and that's why that's how he thinks
he's doing the right thing. Is by if if I think what our conversation
boiled down to was like, if people think that Malik is a piece of
shit, then even at Tamir's worst, he's still better than Malik. And
that's really all that matters kind of thing, right, right, lifting your
brother up? Yeah, why were the parallel on the opposite is really a
track? It like makes sense though, because like God said, is like
Souls is the failure of what he tried to do because he thought this was
the one the right way, but in obviously isn't the correct way. And
then Malik is trying what he thinks is the right way. So that that's
and the thing is like Soul accepts that he fails. That's why he is
the way he is, while Malik is that's why he's named his droid after
his brother. Yeah, that's the same reason. He's definitely accepted that.
I remember watching all of your faces. I remember my going like piecing it
together and he was like, yeah, So the whole purpose of that is
because so after he did that went through a mental breakdown couldn't function. So
the only way for him to function is not that he has such good control
of his emotions as an assassin, is that he had to he has such
weak control of his emotions that he has to lock it away and just put
it away. That's the only way that he's going to function as a normal
person from this point, or his definition of right forward is it's like he
puts off the face of like I don't need emotions because I'm so cold killer.
But the truth is it's like, I'm so weak with handling my emotions.
This was the only method of me functioning afterwards. It's that struggle of
humanity, right, like what do you lose of yourself when you take the
things that define you? When you kill a thing that defines you, like
your brother? What is left? Right? And it's it's it's if we
go all the way back to the very top of the season when I introduce
this and I explain to you guys, like why my name's little red dot
and what it what? Why space is so scary? Right? Why staring
into the nothingness that we don't understand is terrifying but also ezilarating. At the
same time, and what loss really is and how do we come to terms
with humanity when we're so small, when we're just a little dot in an
entire universe. And I think that just just play so beautifully into that ball,
like all of that that struggle that each of you are finding with your
humanity. I even knew from the beginning I wanted one of them to be
a mystic. I didn't know who, but I was going to pitch it
eventually because really, the module that I've selected is better if you have at
least one mystic, at least people carrying about the mysticides and who heal and
somebody I could heal. So I nobody had really said anything about it.
So I reached out to Ars, which was really interesting, and I was
like, how do you feel about this? Because I loved this concept of
a story where maybe her parents were not as accepting that they were disbelievers of
the mystics and believed them ill and sick and unworthy, and what kind of
struggle that would be if both children ended up being awakened as mystics. Such
a good choice too, And like I had planned that when she started telling
me had a powder parents. I was like, you know, it's it
was very personal to me because I come from a small town and my parents
were wonderful humans, like as people, they're good people, but they're small
minded. And when you're living in a place where everybody's lives are based around
fear and terror and the darkness encroaching when something changes or becomes different, that
flaw of humanity says we have to shun it. And so so much that's
so much of the mysticides and what's about to happen is build on this idea
of like we have to cleanse the world or the human existence of the mystics
because they're not really human in any way. They are tainted by the darkness.
And so older parents, people that live through the portal wars, right
or were there possibly for some of it may not be as trusting. And
what does it mean to look at the things that you love your daughters and
recognize that they are now on the opposite side of the line. Right.
It's the coming out story in essence to some degree. And so I wanted
that for two because I thought it would be very very interesting since she had
a beautiful, loving relationship with her family that I wanted to destroy by the
darkness. My character is nice backstory because mine was ship and good relationships with
their parents, because I don't have mine, and you're just terrible and the
things is like they're struggling too. I think that was one of the moments
I really wanted to land at the end of the season. It's like,
it's not it's obviously not that your parents will love love you. They showed
up your mother hugging, she kills you. It's about the struggle that everybody
is coming to terms with what this could possibly mean and do we even accept
it. If we can just cure it, right, everything will be better.
So I'm gonna just keep hoping to cure it. They're gonna come back,
She's going to save our other daughter, and it's going to be perfect.
And so that level of denial that comes with the acceptance of something like
this is really where your mother is at your father's coping a little bit better.
But it was really interesting to watch to me or learn that information.
Yeah, first it was really cool. It's cool, we're gonna we're gonna
have a long time. Yeah, I was like, I love it when
all of you do make really genuine choices like such as go to the library,
you don't even think about running into her mother and then spilling the beans.
Because this scene coming out of that, it is well worth well worth
it. Um on the top of hold on. I also want to say
in that in that same parallel, he had literally just stopped yelling at his
brother for doing things for him. Yep, and then he goes and tells
towels mom yep. Yeah, without talking to Towel first. There's so many
the subject never actually talked about it. That's what I'm saying that there's so
many like relatable, relatable things in all of our characters. I absolutely love.
Yeah, Like nobody here is perfect or even close to being good.
Like, there's so many flaws. Character Towel is actually good, she's a
good person. She is she is good, She's just she's troubled. I
don't think, I don't think anyone to make the correct decision for Yeah.
No, none of you chose to go this Like I'm a bad guy space
agent. Now I'm here to kill everybody. I mean, Seuel's had to
kill people. But when we learn about why soul, yeah, he's forced.
We haven't learned as his family, and his brothers have been forced into
servitude. Um manipulated even the way that say, maybe Malik was ll Tama
was supposed to be and Malik took up that mantle. But like you know,
I think it does it is very super relatable on that, Like Malik
is doing bad for a good reason at least in head, and I think
all of you are. It's like, oh, I got to work for
the Syndicate, but I'm working for the Syndicate to save my brother, right.
Um, like there's there's so many all of you are not bad people,
you are working for bad people. That just comes back to, though,
the whole topic of humanity, because humanity is in black and white.
Yeah, it's complex. Yep. We do things because we think they're right,
but right and wrong is merely perspective. Yeah. Um, you know
what, So I'm gonna skip a question real quickly. I like this question.
Are there going to be more backstories in season two? I don't want
to speak for Don, but I kind of hope not. Right, Like,
no more flashbacks, like you got your flashbacks in season one to reveal
backstory, but going forward, now you have enough information with the characters that
now this is their journey beyond that kind of point, Like, I don't
I don't see the need for another flashback for Malik. I think we're good,
um atas from but from a player's perspective, if backstory gets revealed throughout
the course of like a convers a genuine conversation, um sure, But like
I don't feel the need to have another flashback from my character, as I
think our characters are close enough where we can now reveal our past en role
playing rather than just like doing flashbacks, Like like Saul will eventually have the
conversation with Tamir of why Like it's pretty obvious why he cares so much about
Tamir, and he will have the conversations because I've had brothers, because I
lost my brothers and he, like the flashbacks will come into dialogue, and
I think that will impact the future characteristics. Sure, I'm not the post
off. So from from a GM perspective, I use the flashbacks as a
storytelling mechanism. Now we have a character with premonition, we will not be
looking back. Yeah, that's cool, We'll be looking forward like that right.
Season two is about looking towards, Like what is the future? What
is a what is a what is a premonition? Um? And how do
we write our own destiny? Kind of is what this is? Is like
just because something is said to be is doesn't become or can our choices change
destiny? Um? Also, I think you you hit a point in character
development where you straddle the line between what is like actual role playing and what
is just blatant exposition. And I think we're there right Like we a great
thing that was at the end of episode twelve when there was a small moment
at the very end where Malik slips out of the ship and talks to Tal's
dad and then it ends and there's no description about why that happened or what
that was about. And I feel like that's fine, and if someone asks
him about that, I think that's exposition and he's going to lie to you.
But like behind the scenes, Joey texted me like forty five minutes off
of the episode and it was like, what the hell is that about?
And then we had like a two hour long conversation about what the hell that
was about and why Malik did that, And that goes back to the whole
why Malik. If Malik is a piece of shit. At a minimum,
Tamir looks better than him unless he, like is an actual terrorist, because
if you if you watch Malik, if you watch Malik throughout all of the
episodes, anytime he does something good, it's alone, it's off camera,
it's without the rest of it. By leaving his phone number for a doctor.
Anytime he does something that's like genuine and like a good person, like
rescuing the doctor, it happened off camera and then he's like, hey,
guys, I brought a doctor. Oh whacky belink, what's he gonna do?
And everyone was like, well, leak, what the fuck as opposed
to like, hey, great job man. And if you watch that scene,
at one one split second, Tamir goes, I think you did something
good, and I brushed it over completely and then switched back to Tally yelling
at me because there's no something. Soul and Molique share facade. They both
wear a facade. Yep, I don't know way you're talking about. And
I think that's really cool. I think that's part of the parallel that I
like between the two characters, and it's it's what differentiates our characters. I
will also say, if you guys want to have moments like that where you
ask the characters, you can join the discord and have discussions also trick them
there. I also, I will also say as a GM, the flashbacks
were also a One of the things that I love doing as a GM is
one on one. I love one on one games. Yeah, um,
and I knew that it was going to take us all twelve episodes to get
in to just a launching off point for the working story. So um,
I knew that an entire episode with each one was not going to work.
So I used the flashbacks as a mean also means also to just get to
do a one on one with the players for short period of time. I
think I think having it be a scene like that, like a twenty minute
scene, was fucking choice that was perfect. I think a whole episode would
have been too much, so much even for exactly exactly so for example,
like if we had done Soul's entire like two hour episode, we would have
actually say we would have done we would have watched him and his brother do
the mission yea at the end of the session would have been what you saw
in the flashback, and then it would have picked up real time with him
stabbing to mirror. Yeah, yeah, you know, but it would have
been a lot and out and in terms of the way the pacing, for
example, did the pacing need that much? No, all we needed to
see was him stab his brother. Yeah, we needed to set up the
escalat of of the heightened experience of them doing a mission together. I love
you, brother, I love you. You're the best brother. Die get
ricked. Um. There's also like there's there's there's a never ending supply of
opportunities for even smaller flashbacks. Yes, from the from the player's perspective,
right like, at any given moment, any one of us could be doing
an action and then engage in their own flashback where they see themselves doing a
similar action and then you see around them some crazy shit goes down and they
kind of blink and rub their eye and then like I gonna do. We've
also got like space sickness and stuff, and a lot of the mental piece
of the Correolist game build that we've not dived as into. Yeah, um,
had you pissed off the gin, had you pissed off the gin,
yeah, you guys would have been um so, you know, because it
basically messes with your mind it just degrades your mental state over time. It's
a demon for Pize six, So that that's also one way that we can
do some of these flashbacks, right like when the mind starts to go,
what it connects to as it's losing itself are the most powerful points, like
the big memories. So it may trigger something as you go into a dark
place, kind of the way souls backstory actually triggered. So there may be
opportunity for it, But I would way rather play on the kind of absurd,
big concept premonitions moving into the future because I think that that's going to
be a lot more interesting storytelling, specifically for Town. Oh shit, I
love this one question for dot what was your favorite point where the crew messed
things up, messed things up everything you had planned? If anything, I
just want to say before don answers, y'all remember that time we spent three
whole episodes on Hamor Space Station. We were one You remember that time that
we jumped from the harmorro station and a twin and we had a thirty percent
chance of doing it with a critical critical success m I'll tell you the one
thing that really fudged me because I wasn't they found out a lot more So
them going to Twan was based on the fact that they all found out a
lot more information than they were supposed to, and that was based on off
of critical role that Mike made for Malik to data gin old information and piece
it together to try to figure it out. That is the single reason that
they got extreme amounts of information about the White Butterfly about the first to write
the first Horizon piece. They were not supposed to get till they got back
to Correal lists, so that critical role was so impactful in terms of what
they learned. They were never supposed to go to Twan. The module does
not have your crew going to Twan, So everything from leaving the Hamarabi station
and jumping into Talent and back to coriolis none of that. I had planned
half the latter half of the campaign. I had to replan because that was
not part of it. Oh shit, wild. I will say I love
how low key mad Joey gets whenever I KRIT, because I only krit on
the most bullshit reasons. Oh yeah, I'm gonna hack the entire planet and
get all the information we need, And you're like, sure, you are
garden for successes you're like, and here's the thing. I actually think for
most of your critical successes, they've been rerules because you've given them the darkness
point. Yes, yes they have been. Yeah, but they're all things
that are like dumb moments, Like I think. I think every single one
of my crits has resulted in us getting more than we should have had at
this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just the dumbest shit.
Yep. Then Mike says, sorry, I wants them all the time.
I don't know what you want for me. So just so everybody knows,
I'm going into season two with twelve darkness points. I will be spending
some of them to activate story aspects. Um but um, I will say,
Dot, if you end season two with darkness points, you have to
come back for season three to spend them. Um right, So what I'm
hearing is I need to spend all of them this upcoming damn it, Mike
backfire question. Has there been any moments when Tal was strongly debating the welfare
of the ship over the crew three moments? So here's the thing is that
um Tal realizes that she needs uh Molik and Soul in order to complete the
mission that she needed to do uh, nothing else because she understood that it's
can you stop please? She needs extra people to help protect Tamir. Yep.
I remember. I remember, I remember you coming to me because I
remember I was talking about how important the ship was. And then when we
had to flashback, obviously we recognize why it's your literal home, the only
home you've ever known. But I remember after it was like episode two or
three, somewhere early in it, um, I got a message from you
that was like, dot, I think that Tao has feelings for Tamir,
and it's like episode two. It was like episode two. It was so
amazing and it was something that we had not planned at all, and it
was really interesting because I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that
what happened was you made an It was like a natural character instinct to protect
him. And that's when you realize how important he was because you chose to
protect him oversay the ship or the thing that you thought was most important to
tell. And it was this really beautiful moment and you're like, I don't
know what to do, and I was like message gnome like that story.
I want to say, I have been waiting for this. The hashtag Talmre
for the entire game because after arist message Gnome, Gnome texted me it was
like Aris and I are talking. We might have a thing, and I
was like, it's really everything. He's like, I can't see anything yet.
We haven't bring it out yet. I was like, fuck, I
know, I didn't know all the details, and so yeah, here's the
thing is that I was like, well, for whatever reason, while I
was role playing tow she had this natural like I must protect to Mirror momentum.
And I was like, why would she feel this way? And I
was like, well, you know, I mean, Jamir is a pretty
smart guy. He seems like a sweetheart. He's really intelligent. They probably
get along pretty well. They're roughly the same age itself, exactly, totally
totally something that I feel like Tal would go for um. But at the
same time, Tamirror is her intern. So when I messaged Nome, I
was like, look, if you're not interested at all in this being a
thing, that's fine, we just won't mention it ever. But Tal has
something for Tamiror and that it just kind of went from that. I am
gonna put you both on blast real quick. In a positive way. So,
Joe, you don't normally play correct me if I'm wrong. You don't
normally play any kind of character with vested romantic interests typically, is that great?
Yeah? Right, Okay, that's usually like a line or avail for
me. Perfect. So everyone, this is a fucking hot tip right here.
Talk to your fucking players, right you can make this happen. There
are a ship that like Joey and I have worked out behind the scenes that
we've just brought into the game. Obviously, Talmer was talked about behind the
scenes before it's happened in the game. It was talked to with dot to
make sure, like talk to people like make sure. This was actually the
second time this season on both my Viking Show and this show where I have
had players tell me that they never do romance in games. Then I had
two people from the Viking Show message me about it because so, dude,
another person yeah about it. That was like, I never do romantic stuff.
It's always a line or avail for me. And so as personally speaking,
I'm actually going through my first time having a real romantic thing in a
campaign that I'm a part of it, and so it makes me very happy.
As a GM to know that the cable is comfortable enough for you to
explore that and for you to be able to say I don't want to do
this, or I do want to do this, I don't know. It
just makes me, makes my hearts fall because romance comes in many forms.
That's what I'm learning too. I think it doesn't have to look one way
or another, Like we may never see tal and to me or kiss,
but we will always use the hashtag and let my people, but we may
always use the hashta hashtag. But I think what we're saying is it doesn't.
Sometimes romance on screen and in gameplay feels like you need to do more.
But the really passionate things and the stuff that speaks for itself does that.
It's it speaks for itself. Um So, UM, I encourage you
if you have romance at your table. Like when Ris came to me and
she's like, I don't know what to do with this. The first thing
I said is what we need to rope in the other player. This cannot
This is not a secret, yep. Um, this is not something that
should be a secret. Um. So be real about it and trust your
players to handle it so that they can can you know in a mature way
so that they can still role play it very naturally and organically. Um,
but also know that they got each other's backs. Yep, Um there,
and I think that's important. Okay, that's good. Oh Um. I
like, I think that's important to kind of continue entering. Aris and I
check in on each other regularly with it, like, is this okay?
Do we want to do this? Are we looking towards this? Like?
I know, Ebody, it is not my job. Yeah, it is
not my job to force their romance right. This is they've produced, and
so I never set them up for it. They set themselves up for it.
That's another thing. It is not your job as a GM to drive
the romantic storyline. Now, I will say bear in mind people, we
do have we have our Twitter group chat, which is where we talk about
the game. Um, that we discuss this thing. So we're basically constantly
checking in on each other, both in character and out of character to see
what's going on in your life. And then we each have like I know,
I've talked to Joey back and forth and we've discussed things. I've talked
to Paul a few times. Arrison and Joey, you're obviously talking about certain
things. Um, So like check in with your group, check in with
individual people that you're having, you know, important scenes with, check in
with your GM. Make sure they're not losing their goddamn mind because you keep
doing chaotic things. Um. But like if if you have a secret and
only you know it, you don't have a secret, and you can,
you can, you can put that on a goddamn quilt. If your character
secrets don't matter, if nobody knows about if your character is the only person
that knows the secret, it doesn't exist in the core from the game.
Um And for you to just jam your secret in there, it doesn't make
a narrative sense. And you've just made everyone be like, oh, that
was weird. It's anyway. It's a little selfish. It's a little selfish
rejecting your opinion without the consult. The thing that I've learned from playing with
these four amazing people is that this is a collective story and a collective project
that we are all working on. Dot is the GM, Mike is the
host that brought the of the channel. We but and we're players, But
there's no difference in weight. Everyone shares a shared responsibility and everyone shares the
same level of UM I guess, I guess responsibility and to make this responsibility
for the story. Yeah, we are all equal. It's one fifth of
the project. And I think what I was because when I used to play
D and D I, when I was a player, I felt like just
a player with no saying. So if I had an idea that I wanted
to do, I wouldn't voice it because it's like they might not care or
it's not worth it. That's the point. You are a one fifth of
a show. That means you have one fifth of the opinion. You have
one fifth of the rights to share that opinion. No, you'ion you have
a whole opinion. That makes it. Yeah, a fifth of the pie.
You're damn it, but you guys get it. Sorry, but you
only get fifth, only a fifth of your opinions. I think you can
exactly. There you go. That's what I meant to say, what I
want to say. It's like me as a new player coming into a strangers
group, like that's very important. And I think that's the reason why we've
made such amazing story arcs here. It's because we were also open and honest
with our thoughts, opinions and just talking about it, you know. Yeah,
so a little tidbit from a nube. Just there's no harm in asking,
There's no harm in talking. Yep, there's absolutely no harm. Just
do it. Don't be a bitch, don't get a bitch hashtag facts,
don't be a bitch, but only a fifth that that matters. Yeah,
love a bitch doesn't count at all if you're a stitch bitch. Yeah right,
and you're a full on you. You're a switch bitch on twitch without
a switch, without a switch, no switch, I'm not a switch bitch.
You have to get a switch, though. We have to somehow get
you a switch, because I actually got a sewing machine in the game,
and I'm just waiting for you. I got with the day and I was
like, I'm hanging onto this for Eric. I thought that I don't I
don't have money dot com. That's okay, because I'll get yourself some cool,
nice things. I actively haven't checked my mail in a week and a
half because I'm afraid that Joey bought the game and said it to me.
So with what unemployement money, I'm great, that's what I'm like, I'm
like, man, I was like, thank god, we're all broke.
I love you, bro, but I don't love you that much. I
got a more so guy. We're all broken. No one can send your
stupid game. Look, if you were gonna send Mike the game, just
send it to me instead. Please. I will applay it so much more.
Mike doesn't even want to play it. He's excrement, don't It's capitalism
the game, but with adorable animals. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
What do you think your space game is? Yeah, there's a space
capitalism. Yeah, capitalism, but we don't like you. Well, let
me tell you what dot does in space. Yeah, door space capitalism,
and I make a lot of creds. So Joey and I are wet warriors
and we traverse the galaxiations over and and we build bass. I have a
lot of money, a lot of show a fighter. That's because I am
I'm writing supreme at the capitalism in space. You guys can continue to have
your base you have. You're acting overboard. Basically, you don't know they're
talking about Okay, sky no sky, no, no, no man in
the sky. That is actually Joey and Mike the no man in the sky
it's them, Okay, the real man in the sky who's owning capitalism of
the game. Okay, it's Noansky. I like how, I like how
that that inside joke. So I'm gonna I'm gonna let everyone in on the
I know it's completely it's no the Nomanski one, not not the I don't
want to talk about Warriors, So Nomanski Warriors. Anytime Joey and I are
playing the game and we don't know an answer to something, I will ask
my Google home device, uh the answer, and it will say, according
to the website nomanski dot com if this is the answer. And so now
we refer to the game as no Man. It's all one word. Just
this kind of like hefty, you know, Polish guy off on eighth Street
or something that the block. I don't know. I'm not a catholist.
I would have no idea. I like to know that this show has produced
a very strong friendship with these this cast. So again, don't be a
bitch. Go play your games, talk to your cast, talk to your
crew. Have a good time, because at the end of the day,
when you're having a good time, it produces a good show. Stories matter,
people, stories matter matter, people matter hashtag, but not before stories
ariosto skidding, only one fifth of your personhood matters. Okay, we're getting
into I just want to say the five people on this call, so that's
right, fair, Okay, your whole person matters, but only one fifth
year opinion? I got it. Okay, Yeah, pretty perfect, awesome
whole persons of opinions. Um yeah, no, but I have to say
it was very it was funny, like, um, I think I put
this into discord the other day when Mike came to music, all, Okay,
we're gonna do correals, but I've only got me, you and Joey.
Oh yeah, well I can't run it with just two of you.
Um, He's like, well, I need more players. I was.
I mean I could have Could you have imagined Molik into me? Or do
space? Yeah? I imagine it all the time. What if you did
a stranded in space with two brothers and it's just stop stop? Do you
know we're just You're describing Joey's exact fantasy of living lost in space out combined
with the Roman Alchemist. I would run that game, and I would run
it like the story of Cain and Abel, and only one of them will
make it out at all. Mean yes, only one of them can make
it out of the end. The psychological like a psychological isolation story of what
being alone in space with one other person can do to a person. That'd
bean insane. Yep, yep, that's a degradation of humanity. But that
being said, I was like, I know two people I want to obviously
always want to game with Aris, so I was like, more Aris plays.
And then I was like, I got this other guy. I've been
promising this dude for a while we're gonna game together again, and I've just
like not had the opportunity, the right moment scheduling those kind of things,
and I was like, so I'm going to reach out this guy Paul.
Mike was like do I know this fall? And I was like you do
not. You have to trust me on this one, Mike, And he
was like cool, I okay, what's the response? And I was like
cool, And we all came together and it was like magic, I am
Paul. It was like magic um and it was just like a crazy momentum
when we all came to that. Like I remember Session Z were being a
lot of fun. It was kind of heavy because like Coriolis, um mechanics
can be a lot especially during setup if we're going as deep as like we
weren't trying to get the shift together and all this kind of stuff. But
the very first game, it was just like that chemistry just happened. It
was like sugar spice, everything nice, and then we dropped in some chemical
eggs and out the other side. Yeah. Sorry, Like it was like
it was truly a perfect combination of everything. And um, I remember after
the first game, we were so fucking hype. We chatted in Twitter for
like an hour and a half afterwards it was and every time after that was
like when's Moore's face please? Um So Yeah, and forged a really dope
friendship. Yeah. I was very um, I don't know if impressed is
the right word, but I was very ecstatic about the first episode and how
I went down because like, I had never played with Aris before and I've
seen you play on things, and I didn't even know who Paul was.
Also, I had an expectation of like how Aris played in certain things.
Um so, like it was kind of a little bit easier to play off
her character and your your like little vignette that you started with in the bar
kind of gave us insight into who your character was. But uh Sewel barely
had a vignette, and it was just like bam, you're with Malik and
I would just throw yet on purpose, I low key forgot that. Like
Dot was like, hey, here's Paul. He's new and I was like
wham, and I just went like hard into role playing and you were like
okay, I just went with it, and I was like all right,
cool, and then I remembered it afterwards and I was like cool because I
shit on you hard in the first episode and you were like dope and you
just went with it, and I was like, oh that worked. I
didn't just terrify that kid and make him not want to play RPGs ever again.
So I'm glad that worked out. I'm self forgetting in real life so
good. I'm save dude. That's a both from the East Coast. So
yeah. But I but I liked that like your character played off of or
just those completely like didn't get any of Malik's insults. You're just like what
and then just like rolled off and I was like great, this is this
will be a funny dynamic to have, and it was. It was kind
of funny anyway. For a while, I was definitely like shitting bricks yeah
in the first episode, because I was like, yeah, shitting bricks.
Yeah. No quote, you can't steal that. That's my favorite. But
yeah, I was really scared. I'll say it was like I somewhat made
soul on purpose to be kind of like airheaded, like everything going over his
top, to use as an escape mechanism in case I don't know how to
respond to something. It makes sense. So because again I don't know anyone,
so I was really worried, but I don't have fun. So that's
all given showed about. And it's one of the reasons why I started with
you. Like we opened everything up with um. I don't know if you
guys could see it, but that's Mike's double chin on my chest. Thanks.
Thanks. I have two of those, okay, just so that you
all know. Thanks. I would expect you that I'm going to start to
work out tomorrow. Apparently, thank you. It was much larger than I
planned on it being. I thought it was going to be your face and
it was just chin. Yea look at that. But That's why I started
with Paul, because I one, I knew that the other three of you
had a lot of roleplay experience, and I wanted you to see Paul will
play before you had to interact with him, um, so that there was
a little bit of a comfortability and you know, never heard to shake off
the calm webs and yeah, you know. And I knew. I knew
that Paul was going to bring his a game to the table. He didn't
know that, No, I did not. I was you did well,
Yeah, you did great. And I knew it. I knew it from
the beginning. I was like, he's going to be perfect. I just
need to I need to get them all warmed up. Yeah. I feel
like if if we hadn't told people somewhere in the game and especially today that
like you were newer to role playing, I don't think anyone would have guessed
that during this campaign. I don't think anyone. I wouldn't have guessed if
you hadn't told me. Yeah, no, blushing, I think he stopped
you. You did, super Will, And it has been a goddamn good
time. It has. We're all friends. Do we have more questions?
Mike? We don't we don't have any more questions. More questions. I'm
going to ask questions for everyone. What are you actually knowing? Everyone?
But Dot? Um, what are you hoping for in season two? Dot?
I can't ask you because you know what season two is. I can
still talk about what I'm looking forward to, but I gets instead. What
I'm about to do is take a bunch of notes. Good job, Mike,
Yeah, you're welcome to Well. I mean, he's asking what we're
hoping for, so yeah, that's it's a good amount of notes to take.
Yeah. So Arisonce, you're talking what are you What are you hoping
for in season two? Oh? I don't know. I definitely Um.
I can't wait to have that talk with Tamir. That's gonna be Oh talk
wait which talk with Tamir about the Paris thing? Yeah, and telling you
about being a little goddamn titles. Yeah, Yeah, that's gonna make Yeah.
I hope that hapits episode because well, because there's there's a lot of
a lot of things that they need to talk about, and a lot of
things, there's a lot of things to talk about. This tamerness to talk
to a lot of people. He's gotta talk to him a league. He's
got to talk to the soul. It's because everybody cares about because everybody loves
Tamir, and everybody wants interacted to Meir, and nobody wants interact with each
other because we all saw it always has to have a heart. I will
that's true. That's a true um. I will say. I don't think
that at least I don't feel Joey could feel different. I don't think that
Tamir and Malik are going to talk about what just happened, right. I
think it's one of those like sibling things like this in the same way that
we physically fought and then shit went down and we just kind of like brushed
the fight aside and then ignored it. I think the fight that just happened
where like he was like, stop making decisions for me, and I was
like, you don't have a choice, and your brother. I think that
conversation happened, and then there's that that that tension where like, oh,
they need to talk this out, and then we're just not going to do
it, and then we're just gonna be like and forget about not forget about
it, but like bury it under the rug and then just keep going.
And I think, but I think that's gonna like so like you saw like
a punch happen, and then he sulked, right, they both sulked,
And then now it got a little bit bigger back on Coriolis, where he
was like, I'm walking away from you. Don't do ever do this to
me. I might not be coming on this adventure with you, And I
think we're going to continue pushing it off, and it's gonna every time it
like peaks, it's gonna be sucking bigger than the last time. That feels
like the most familial things. Stop stopping because you can see that you shut
up and stop talking. Listen, But yeah, what about you? What
are you? What are you looking forward to? Me? Or or Joey,
Joey, Joey, what are you looking forward to? In season two
said stop talking, so you talk? Honestly, I have a list.
I have to have a conversat or Tamir has to have a conversation with tal
and Malik And so what did I just say? Damn, Yeah, we
all need to talk to jamor demor is just gonna be even talking. Everybody
is like nobody else is going to talk one on one sessions you want.
It looks like you're gonna get the two one on two or whatever sessions.
Oh, I'm not worried about it. If you're you're all going to get
your chance to talk to each other. Um. In that case, Paul,
what are you looking forward to? Yeah? So if you guys remember
the beginning of our the session, everyone had their own objectives, right,
So I wanted us to protect someone, someone wanted money, somebody wanted drugs,
and the other had to complete a task. So for the see pretty
sure it was just you two okay, so we all had no no no
hold on you and I had to finish the job. And you also needed
to get your experience to write a report. Yeah you go, Oh,
that's something for my list to me. Or needs to turn in his report.
I thought he did, no, okay. Um, So every character
has a specific dynamic that they're trying to reach. However, in season two,
we were all given one objective. So all of season one we were
all kind of working behind each other's back trying to figure stuff out. And
we got to see that how that worked out. I want to see how
the group's going to work collectively now now that we have one goal. There's
no more backstabbing. Everyone got what they wanted. We all have one thing.
So I want to see how well or how shitty the group's gonna work
collectively, and what kind of tension that's gonna bring. Because now, like
sometimes what no or what Tamir wanted to do, Malik was okay with because
while he was doing that, he was gonna will do something. But now
let's say Malik and Tamir want the same thing, but they want to do
it differently, what's going to happen, you know? So I'm curious to
see the group dynamic when they're given one specific goal with one specific mind.
I agree, like I know how Malik is going to react to Tamir in
a situation where we have a different opinion. I actually phrase it's Malik and
tal those are the two I'm working. I was gonna say, yeah,
I don't know how Malik and Malik will react to Tale. We will definitely,
we will definitely have a conflict because we've been I think in the same
way that like twel and Tamir have been like dancing around romantic feelings. I
feel like there has been a tension between um Malik and tale that has just
been slowly like smoldering to a point where, like, I think the most
heated it got was when I brought the doctor on the ship. Um.
But like we're we're headed towards a fight somewhere. Oh you are so like
so going to be well. I think the only reason, the only reason
why we haven't fought yet is because our our goal, despite the fact that
we've never talked about it, our goal is protecting to Mirror. And that's
the only thing that's the damn, right, that's the dam holding back these
these flood this flood. Um. And I think when that damn breaks,
there's going to be a fight, And I'm really interested to see that fight
because that's going to put to Mirror in a very difficult situation. Yeah.
Um, And I think that's a really cool, strong role playing moment that
I obviously am well aware that Joey can handle. But I think that's going
to be a very think about that yeah all the time, Like, oh
my god, There's going to come a point in time where choice is going
to have to be made and I'm I'm so interested. Um right this second,
I think Tamir Choose is Milik, But I don't know. I think
tamer would choose Malik right now. I think I think he would. I
think he would um hate Malik from putting him into that position, but he
would be forced to make the decision, and he would hold resentment towards him.
If he's put in the position where he has to choose between two and
Malik, he will choose Malik. But after that choice, their dynamic will
completely shifts. But I think that's right now. I don't know in six
episodes or seven episodes or eight episodes, I don't know where that goes,
how that how that plays out, right. But I think right now,
um, because there's it's it's still a very much. It's not I don't
even think it's say it will they won't they? With Tamir in tow right
now, I think it's a oh you you might be alike with this person,
right like you both have a crush. So I don't think it's gotten
to the point where it would be a choice for him. I think it'd
be an uncomfortable moment and he would be regretting it, like like like Paul
said. But I think if that continues to grow, then it's going to
be a serious decision for Tamir, and I'm really excited to see how that
plays out because those moments are dope. Yeah, I will say now,
earlier you said that you it was interesting because Tal was so neutral on Malik
when people are usually polarized. Right, it's because of Tamir, right,
exactly, that's true. You tolerate Malik because of Tamir. Right. Well,
I mean when when you were introduced, you were introduced as his older
brother. Right, So Tal's like, all right, I got a deal
with this guy. Yeah, Okay, I don't all right, he's a
dick. All right, he's a big dick. I'm still gonna m m
yeah, sure you can. Yeah, that's fine. I don't know what
breaks first either either Tale will fight Malik um because it won't go the other
way around. I know that um Or Malik will do something to expose himself,
to tell that he's not actually a piece of shit. That will that
will further that tolerance. It will give him enough good grace to be like,
Okay, you're not a bad guy. Have a question? Yes,
didn't tell find out that Malik took Tamor's DIB to save him has that been
made known and clear to tell. Yeah, we were all they were talking
about. Yeah, ok, yeah, yeah yeah in the Hot Springs episode,
Um, well there was there was that, but then there was also
uh, I guess this is another spoils a baby spoilers um in the other
in what was it the last episode when we got our new assignment, we
had that talk where they were like, okay, and now your debt's gone,
and now there's this and and all this has been all magically erased and
taken care of, and Tamir didn't want to agree to it because his debt
was in there, and he went through this whole thing about how like,
um, you know you didn't you took away my choice on what to do,
and you didn't talk to me about it. And then he goes and
talks to tell his mom in the library. Yeah yeah, I think so.
Yeah. We talked about that. Cards are on the table pretty much
at this gath. Yeah, which is where I wanted to leave all of
you coming into season two, Like I wanted all the cards on the table.
I wanted it to feel vulnerable and like, um, you didn't have
a choice almost um right, your debt. It needed to feel like a
das Makina was wrapped around something really sour. Right, So, like we
basically got that days as Makino of like your debt swiped away, none of
you were going to prison. We had to follow up on some sool things
with tattoos and whatnot. Oh my god, that other storyline that's coming right
now. The fucking scene of to me or getting dragged out of the club
what soul while he's gripping him with a bloody arm was probably my favorite picture
in my head. I could just imagine Tom is like I was just trying
to help fucking fuck out. Yep, this is how you Yep. It
was like a Big Brother trouble. Yeah, you're in trouble. What are
you doing? But that that was the arm grab. I don't know if
you know what the arm grab grab that was it. I love that so
much for so many reasons, right, So, like as Joey's friend,
I loved that scene because it was fucking hysterical in character. I loved that
scene because it was fucking hysterical as a GM and a player. As a
GM and a player, it was also a great scene like behind the scenes
because like this is a role playing scenario that that Joey would never put himself
in UM and uh, like we didn't. This is one of those times
where we didn't communicate. Hey man, I want to shove you into a
strip club? Are you coo with this? But like there was immediately conversation
behind the scenes, like in the zoom chat and like Dot picked up on
it and was like, Okay, let's not go to ham on what this
nightclub is and kind of like so right, exactly right. It wasn't at
all, but it had the funny moments of like, oh no, I'm
slightly uncomfortable in a comedic way. But then also like then it quickly ended,
and I think it was like it was perfect and succinct and it was
just enough brevity. You guys like that that that little change around the balancer
did. Yeah, I like I liked a whole bunch of that scene.
M from like I said, from a from a player my production standpoint,
I think it was well done and that was just like communication without having to
like discuss it. We knew how to navigate the scene collectively, and I
think it was very well done together and had the desired effect of being comedic
relief in an otherwise tense moment and very tensible. And that's that's actually how
I balanced it. I knew it was going to be an intense moment for
Sewel because basically, you were being branded and you're now carrying some information yea,
literally on your body. And I knew that that that's heavy business,
y'all, um, in case you didn't know, um, And really this
was a long term punishment. Right from episode one, Sewel made a decision
not to follow through all my contract, not do the thing that he was
asked to do to get their asses out of trouble thanks to darkness points.
Huh. And so when you made the decision not to, I knew immediately
that it means you guys were going to get a patron at the end,
you were going to get a sugar daddy. You're gonna get your daddy.
WARBOCKX was gonna have, right. But in return, Seuel took a literal
brand for that, Yeah, Seul. Seul took one for the team without
knowing it, um. And he still doesn't know it yet. He doesn't
know the full repercussions of like what has gone down. But I did I
agree with you Mike, I think the comedy in being Tamir. It could
have been it could have been Town, it could have been the Leak,
but it was Tameir. And it was a beautiful look at innocence and him
trying to do the right thing in the wrong place. Yeah, and it
created a nice balance of comedy in a very serious moment where one of our
players is being branded. And it wasn't. And it wasn't one of those
moments where like sometimes you try to inject comedy in a in a tense moment
because like you need that brevity. But like this was also a very in
character, Like this is one a big brother to a little brother, ball
busting kind of thing, and and like I feel like, again, you
know, Joey and I haven't talks a crazy amount about like our backstory,
but like having grown up the way we did on Algol and then escaping Alghal
more or less and coming to hear he basically went right into school, And
like there's a reason why Malik bust his jobs and calls him a nerd all
the time, because that's how Malik. He sees his kid brother as a
nerd. So in his eyes, he's like Oh, he's unfamiliar with this
kind of experience, which is hilarious considering the fact that Malik is a data
gin has to be very intelligent, right, right, So it's a defense
mechanism, is what it is, which is the same reason why he tells
people he works at space by Yeah. So I also have two things to
add. Yes, first off, the fact that Tamir so in character went
into that thing and like, no knew what kind of a club it was,
right, you're not stupid, and you know you could understand. And
there's you don't think I'm stupid, I'm wrong and I'll call you a liar.
How many people think that's a face anyways? Uh, so, like
you knew that going in, so like there there was that also that level
of consent there with like you knew what you were getting yourself into and you
you still went for it. Dot was gentle um, That's true. I'm
known to be a gentle human um. But also we owls are called wow.
So we were also talking about it and it had to me or not
been the one that that went in, say they sent Tal instead, Well,
Tal going into the nightclub as an agoraphobic person who is afraid of crowds
and lights and stuff like that. It would have been a much different scene.
Yeah, Like it probably would have been about Soul rescuing you from someone
would have had to probably rescue Teal from a mental breakdown in that club,
and there probably would have been darkness activated and all this stuff. It would
have it would have gotten into a serious scene there. But the fact that
Tamir went instead it was it was very good. I actually have a question
about that, not about the role play of it, but as a player,
um and as a Twitsch streamer for the majority of you that are twits
streamers and tabletop roleplay streamers and that kind, um, do you think about
those all? Like so for me, for the instigator of the scene,
right, I thought about what if it's what if it's Tamir, this will
be comic relief, he can handle this, This will be a funny moment.
If this is Tale, this is a this is not a good scene
for Tale, and it won't bring brevity of the scene and it will be
about maybe not about Seul rescuing her, but like her running out of the
club. Maybe look that. And then if it's Malik, Malik will just
hang out and won't rescue a seoul and it will be a little funny,
but not the not know what I would have done if it had been Malik.
I would have got dragged in to get a tattoo. I'm sure,
No, no, I have I can do much worse than Oh right,
the fucking stupid dancer was there. The dancer was there. It would have
been the prime time for you to say, have the doctors show up,
right, Yeah, I'm gonna lock her in a crywd chamber. But that's
what That's what I was thinking, is like I went through that scenario of
like, Okay, what what I'm going to interject in the scene? What
would the best outcome be? Do you guys do that when you're role playing?
Um? And either from a role play perspective like or like do you
do it from like, you know, a twitch perspective like how do you
process that? I do it a little bit us. As we were leading
up to it, I was thinking about what would happen if each of them
went in, and I was fully prepared to for tw to go in,
because Tal would rather go in herself than send to mirror into unknown club to
try to rescue Soul. Because if anybody's going to get into a bar fight,
it's probably tal has the best chance. So she was willing to do
that. But once she got in there, it would have been an entirely
different situation for her. So she would have gone in and freak the fuck
out. Yep. But you know, I don't know what to answer your
question, Mike. I'm constantly thinking about that. Yeah, where to give,
where to take, where the evan flow is, where to step even
as like as a player and as a GM, I'm constantly looking for those
moments. I was no offense, dot I was. I had a feeling
of what your answer was because we have a similar play style where I'm I
know, I'm constantly thinking. I'm constantly thinking of like three or four moves
ahead so that I can adapt on this thing. And that's what helps me
improv out a scene, which is why, like when you spit out some
nonsense at me, I have a response immediately and I don't have to think
about it because I'm trying to think of all the scenarios you're going to toss
at me. Um. But like, so what I'm hearing is I need
to step my game. You're gonna think about five. If I'm a capital
of the three, I'm gonna have to start writing notes. I'm playing chess.
Yeah, um but yeah no Man and and Paul. Do you guys
think about that kind of scenario, Like do you think about like multiple angles
to approach the scene before you enter the scene or do you just kind of
fucking fall into it? Um? No, I I think about it a
lot. Um. For that particular moment, I felt comfortable at Dot's GM
style that if this was a scene that she knew needed to just be soul,
she'd stopped me at the door. Yeah, and that's okay, But
I knew that the character had to make the attempt. It was important to
tame or to make the attempt. But I trusted Dot would either stop it,
oh let it proceed. And honestly, one of the other reasons I
let it predated not just because of the comedic effect, because it was just
set up so beautifully when your brother played a prank on you and it worked
out role play wise that way. So for the spoilers, I won't ruin
what said because but I think it also, just as secrets don't mean anything
unless they're shared with someone, you can't activate a secret. You can't actively
play on a secret. Individual scenes where say Seul had this entire experience in
the club by himself, does it mean anything because you know Seul's not going
to share it with anyone unless somebody else sees it. And so part of
it, too, was about getting somebody into that scene so that it can
be seated and brought up again later. For example, what's the first thing
to me? Or said, why is your aren't bleeding? Yeah, so
now something happened tam Or may not know what, but Tamir could bring it
up again or look into it. And that's also how you keep that pace
and that story going. As a GM, I'm just constantly looking for places
to continue seating drama because that's what stories built on. Conflict. You've got
to look for the conflict, and so a character can have their own conflicts
and say like a flash vacccene. But if a scene is constantly going just
one person, it doesn't make it actionable and activated again for a later opportunity,
which is when story begins to get disconnected and your players aren't working together
anymore. And we had worked so beautifully to come together at the end that
I needed somebody to see what was happening to Seoul. Yeah. I also
just realized on what we were talking about earlier, if things get super tense
between Malik and Tamir, Malik is gonna fight Suel What? Yeah, because
I can't fight Tao. So why are you gonna fight me? What can't
you? Yeah? Why can't you fight? Because if if things are tense
between Malik and Tamir and he fights with Tale, then things will be more
tense between Malik and Tamir. And he's smart enough to know that he's not
gonna go pick a fight. No, No, he's not gonna pick a
fight. But like there are moments in season one where like he's like solid,
you fucking dumb, Like there are moments like that all that, like
like every couple of one of those moments where like it will just it'll it'll
be one of those times where he does something that's just like just dumb enough
to like tweak you know Malik the way he does normally, but he just
might go a little bit extra because the moment that Malik's yeah, that's the
thing that right, Yeah, this this goes for you two chat, Who
do you think is gonna be the aside for to me through the first punch,
who's going to be the non blood related person to just deck that smug
fucking luck off Malik's face? And I think, I think if it's soul,
it will have a more lasting effect in my opinion, I agree.
My thought though, is like if that happens, because soul is kind of
like not doubt I love it. Paul thinks it's just soul. My team,
Yeah, I love it well. I think, oh, just as
a quick rendery of your original question for me before I add on to it,
I m realistically, I do think about it, but I think about
it in the sense of my own entertainment purposes. Yeah, like it's just
for fun. But when it comes to a role play, I try not
to because I like to think of it as like if my character would do
that, does he consider that a thing that he needs to consider, like
is he gonna care or if other people interject with his issues or is he
gonna care or what he does has a certain reaction to other things. Um,
sometimes he does. So for me, it's all about situation based like
people coming into the club thing for my own purpose, I think, oh,
that'd be pretty funny if this happened or this happened, but for Soul,
like his character because he wouldn't give a shit of who comes in or
he because he tried to tell them not to come in. Um he.
I wouldn't think of it that much into it because I don't need to um.
It's more just like flipping through channels. Yeah, if certain situations were
Soul does need to then yeah, then I would do it. But most
of the times it's my faith. And this is like the same with Joey.
My faith is fully in Dot like I trust that no matter what happens,
she has a good she's she's a professional. I wish thanks she knows
the professional's a choreolist shirt and fire teeth on just saying you're prowing the book,
You're you're a future promoing your future show. So but like you said,
like I think I don't need to think about stuff like that. That's
what I'm trying to say, because I think all I need to focus on
is what the fund would Soul do right? And then after that, it's
like it doesn't matter what else happens because to be or will take care of
Tamir Moliqual take care of Malik, Tale will take care of my towel,
and then that will take care of all of us when it needs to be.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So that gives me to produce a take
care we're all so next, Um, yeah, go ahead. I was
just I forgot what I was gonna say. Shit, that's okay, I'll
jump in here. So many says Tale hits malikue first, Maligu will get
mad and try to fight Soul and school kick his ass. So I think
that's not Why would Malik come after me after Tale hits smoke. I don't
think. I don't think that's a series of events, right. I think
if someone's gonna strike the work first, the first person to hit Malik is
going to be Tale. However, I think that, like, if the
events go that way, right, I think that that Malik would like be
pissed off and then take it out on Seul. But I don't I don't
think that there would be a physical fight between Seul and Malik because so far,
up until right this very second, like Suel has been incredibly level headed,
even in like killing his sibling, he was very level headed and calm
the entire time. So like, I feel like Seul understand what's happening and
would not physically fight. There's a reason why both of you work. There's
a reason that both of you work for the syndicate. You're both really good
at your jobs. Yeah, that brings us to like, I'll give a
little spoiler. I thing with Soul's mental capacity. He knows that he can
kill. He knows that he's capable of killing certain people or certain things.
So when he's in a position or it's like, oh, I'm gonna get
into a fight, he doesn't have the mentality of like I'm gonnae into a
fight to get into a fight, right. His mentality is if I get
into a fight, that person's going to die, right, because that's what
his entire life has always been trained to do. That. That's why when
he got into the argument in season episode one with the big Bollids, he
tried to escape. He didn't try to fight. Yeah, when he get
into the fights with the monsters, he instinctively just shot. I wanted to
because he knew they need to die. If he gets into a conflict with
Malik and he's like, oh, this is going to go to a physical
combat, My training is going to activate, and I might kill Malik.
I actually thought about that too, and what an interesting moment it might be
to have to watch Seuel struggle yeah, with the stopping of killing it his
natural instincts, right, that habitual piece of having to struggle with that,
Um, I don't be interesting. I've already made the note. So I
think I think, I think that aspect would be interesting. I also think
the fact that like Seuel, has the smarts to know, okay, this
is not an actual fight, right, and I don't need to kill Malik,
And so I think there is a potential for a possibly physical but also
passive UM. I will say you escalation. So like you say, THO,
Seul has a limit though, especially with everything that just happened, his
brother, his memories, like everything that was locked. The reason why he's
so robotic is because he loses his emotions. Now that everything kind of broke
out, his emotions are flooding back. So his bridge and his limits are
starting to see and I see a fight with I see a fight with Malik
as an opportunity for Saul to get to be a big brother again. Right,
It's a chance for Sul to look at another person that needs that genuinely,
a big needs a big brother needs somebody to discuss what's troubling him.
That's the issue with Milik is that he stepped in all to himself and this
is I think that would be an interesting opportunity to watch role play happened and
watch Seul get to do what he didn't get to do before. I think
if Seul de escalates a fight, then there's going to be a hard role
play session between Paul and I were that that comes out. And if he
doesn't de escalate a fight, should that happen, then there will be a
very difficult scenario for Paul himself, like for just Suel to have on his
own that interest this guy or not, which I think it's super super Oh
bitch, please, we only getting started. I will say, though there
is no Emo soul like, there is only soul. He is sad like
he is. There's only soul. He is sad about his like shut up,
may I can hear a laugh? No? Like, um, he's
not depressed about what happened. It's a burden he carries. He's carried it,
so he's not like sad about it. He's just regretful and guilty.
There's there's a there's there's people need to understand. There's a huge difference between
just being sad and depressed and having guilt and being sad. There's there's like
a huge dynamical difference, and soul's kind of a you'll learn it's okay kind
of a bite anleue carry a lot of guilt, I don't. I don't
know that. I don't know that Malik carries guilt. I feel like Malik
carries guilt that he get caught. Interesting, I don't think you don't think
he carries guilt for like I guess, well, I guess not because you
chose to take your brothers. Yeah, so so so this is this is
actually cool. So this is one of the things that that Joey and I
talked about after the last episode, which is one of those things where like
this won't come out in role play because it's too much exposition, right,
is like um in the family, Malik was the older brother, which means
everything was expected of him and less was expected of of of Tamir, and
then their parents die and so like, and I feel like in this scenario,
Malik never did the right thing like he was always kind of a fuck
of so he never met those expectations. And then when his parents died,
he now became the caregiver and decided right then and there that like, I
will never put that pressure on me or that I had to deal with,
and I instead, I'm going to make sure that he is the best he
can't. I'm going to lift him up, which is why even if even
if lifting him up means putting myself down, at least he will be,
you know, on this pedestal kind of thing. So I don't think he
has like any regrets or any guilt about the scenario. He might think,
might feel guilty, he might have, like depending on what we like we
haven't discussed, like what happened. I don't think anything was super violent that
they got into on al goohol. But I that's why I don't think he
has guilt about that UM. I think at most it was the same kind
of mysterious thing like with UM with tam or right where he delivered this package
and we don't know what happened. I think that's kind of how the rebel
stuff worked. M Like we did jobs and sometimes buildings exploded an hour later,
but we didn't actually debtonate the building, right, like, so it
was it was things like that where we're trying to bring down the man and
the establishment. But I don't think we actually like pulled the plunger and blew
up buildings and things like. So we did we didn't u between us.
That almost happened. That was a big reason why Tamir started having some resentment
form a league, right because Tamir was supposed to go off with a group
of friends in Obama place that they thought, you know, was part of
the industry or whatever, um em. A league stopped him, right and
they all went off and some of them died right in that conflict. Yeah,
and so that stemmed some interns. Oh and the parallel of you actually
dropping a bomb on I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I
don't know that. What a beautiful What is to my questions, what is
Tamir's thoughts after after he finds out some of his friends died, Like does
he feel thankful to his brother or does he feel guilt that some of his
friends died and he didn't He was upset he should have been there, like
maybe that wouldn't have happened if he had been the one that was assembling the
bomb. That that thought right there. I think Um really emphasizes Tamer's personality
where he focuses a lot of proactive action versus reactive actions of what his brother's
doing or like what's happening around it. It's like instead of seeing like the
out other outcomes of everything, it's more just like what could have I done?
What could I have fixed? Or what could have I have contributed to
it? And when that's taken away from say his brother, that's like an
interesting dynamic right there. I didn't really like see that per se. Yeah,
it's it's very much a so fomial alchemists, it's so alphonse and uh,
it's it's very much an I know best, regardless of what you think
I know best, Um. And I don't think that there's any I mean,
unless something drastic happens, I don't think there's any getting through to the
leak that that's not a fact, right. I think he's so sure in
where he is now and where where Tamir is now, that everything has been
working to make to me or what he is right, like a good person
who does well and like benefits society, right, Like being a portal master
is that a great honor? And the research that he's doing is also could
help people, um, which is why, like we've discussed in like backstory
stuff, like the only jobs that Malik would let to me or take were
like irrigation guy, like help the people make this thing. Like they were
all like um um, like like service kind of jobs that like he would
help the impoverish kind of thing. You can't protect him forever, but there's
no getting through to him that that's not that's that's that's true, and that's
right, go for it. That's that's that's his fo. See how your
original question was what is everyone looking forward to the season two? Yeah?
I feel like that question And now I've been taking notes this whole time.
Yeah, you guys are talking about like what you're hoping is going to happen,
and I'm making a bullet list. Yeah. I thought we were just
supposed to like build our ship and get some upgrades and do some shop.
We're gonna have to do to do that stuff pulled up. I've had it
pulled up this whole time. Do you know what you want? No?
Because I don't understand how any of this works. That's what we were supposed
to go over. We can always go over it, we could always.
But yes, okay, so I can I can walk you through that.
That's very you see. But um, I mean basically, you have the
money you need depending on the item, because I know some of that stuff
for ship upgrades is really expensive. So a lot of all are right.
So we'll depend on what you guys want or what you're wanting specifically, and
talk to the You have a patron, he will pay for the upgrades as
long as you come through on your end as promised. Um, all right,
Well, we all are a little bit over time our normal time.
So I will end though. I will end this by saying what I'm looking
forward to in season two? Uh, and then we'll get the hell out
of here. I don't think we need outros for this crazy episode. Now,
can we all say what we're looking forward to? We all did,
oh, everyone but you because you're the gem and you know what you're with
the whole campaign. But I can what are you looking forward to? You?
I am looking forward to actually diving into the motel. I'm actually diving
into the meat of the story. Consider season one kind of a prologue and
a character introduction. Um, but I'm also excited to get out of space
and get off of a gas planet. Like we're going to go planet side
and we're going to have a chance to see um, to see some things.
I think that's going to be very interesting. And this will be the
first time that the group has pointed out is really working together as a group
and not in their own accord, and that's going to be very important.
As you basically plan for this mission, you've not been given instruction on how
to do it, and this one's going to take some real planning on your
part, and I look forward to seeing that that happened, the development of
the crew and how I can rip that part. I'm sorry, what was
that last part? I should have muted myself. You're fine as you as
you saw from our backstories. We're really good at planning. Yeah, yeah,
also really good at ripping ourselves apart. Yeah, don't you don't even
apply pressure, dot, what'll does fuck ourselves up? You don't have to
give us, give us, give us my battle. We got it.
We'll figure it out. Raise your eyebrowser now you can do the really fun
with us. Just raise your eyebrows randomly without any intent, and you'll scare
us no matter what. We can't you can't control it. There's a face.
It's a it's a it's uncontrolled. There's a whole face. She makes
the whole thing. Yeah, there's there's the there's the eyebrows, and there's
the then there's the there's the I know more than you do smile, which
is a classic. It's a classic. Yeah, it's it's one of it's
one of these. Is that little it's that little sideways mark and then the
uh, the oh, really is the chip the chim goes down and the
eyebrows go up them. Okay, well, I'm being called the fuck out.
What are you looking forward to? To be fair, I'm calling you
out because that's what I do. That's why I know three. Well,
what I'm looking forward to most is all of the things we discussed just recently
about the conflicts. Interpersonal stuff is my jam. Also I'm looking forward to
the most in season two is season three. H That being said, we
will get the hell out of hair uh and we will see you guys next
week for the premiere of Void season two, Episode one on the prequel to
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