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Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome

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to Eye on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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He's Jay Gonzalez and got our guy
Ryan with us today and it's Tuesday.

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All I have to say to you, Jay is ding dong. The

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witch is dead. You Arizona is
gone. We were just talking about that

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too. That's funny. The big
news of the day for us as journalists

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and stuff that. You know that
that whole thing was dumb to begin with,

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a lot of people made fun of
it. Our illustrious editor at biztus

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On magazine made us use it,
which was fine. But and I think

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we're the only ones, honestly,
when I would see my story change to

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yourson, necessarily, did you put
that in it? We did every time?

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But and that's fine. I'm wondering
because they did a study, right,

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they did a thing, and I
wouldn't put a whole mark. Yeah,

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I'm sure that was the one point
five million dollars that look into that.

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Yeah, they put a lot of
money. Did we know why they

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did it? Was? It was
it was like just a you know for

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social media and stuff like that,
just to you established a different identity,

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you know, some stuffing that stuck
out. There are so many other u

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of a's right right, University of
Alabama, University of Arkansas, and so

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I think that there was, you
know, even Auburn University, which is

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Auburn University, but you see the
UA on their logo and stuff. So

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I don't know, I have to
go back and look and see what they

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said. I'm sure there's an email
that that's been what's been a few year,

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yeah, about three or four years, if not more. Let me

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tell you a little quick joke.
So back in the day Joe Turner,

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you know Joe Turner crazy is he
had to be in school, probably still

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in school, and you know he
was kind of witty and kind of funny

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but not knowing he's funny. Uh, Joe, where you a B A

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B? Yeah you ain't b being
tucsone. I remember that. I remember

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that story coming out about that,
and that's you know, yeah, that's

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Joe but yeah, you know,
I don't know. You know, sometimes

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things get overthought, right, and
that was probably one of them, you

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know, And that was partly from
a higher up that we whoever it is

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that said, and the guys under
knees were like, but he's saying,

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the bosses saying, yeah, we're
gonna do We're gonna do this. Yeah,

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and they did it. So yeah, it's it's got you. Arizona

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is gone. I don't know if
they've officially changed their their their Twitter handle

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yet gone back to something else?
Is that what it was? That the

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Twitter handle was you Arizona and then
like like uh, President Robbin's Twitter handle

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was you Arizona, press her ez
on the end. So you know,

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we're gonna have to change all that. And that's now like you're gonna go

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back to something else. It's like
what now you're messed up? Right now?

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People are going to look for you
as you Arizona because they're used to

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that that that's who they've bookmarked or
that's who they've friended or whatever. I

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yeah, you did a lot of
a lot of money spent on that to

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all go for not right, well, you a b and Tucson. You

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Arizona no longer. Did you see
that? Uh? They were. I

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think Justin Spears and some other people
posted that clip from Saturday Night Live when

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it came out. No, you
haven't seen that. No, it's pretty

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funny. You gotta you gotta look
it up. It's on Twitter. Look

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up just I saw it from Justin
retweeting it. But it's funny. It

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says you, basically says you Arizona. Sounds like, uh, what do

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you call it? Uh, you'd
have to watch watch It's it's pretty clever,

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pretty funny. Those guys are Those
guys are funny, a little over

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the top sometimes. Speaking of Justin, he'll be on the show today.

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Yeah, Justin's gonna join us.
We tried to get him last week and

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he was busy with a big twelve
media days and then we got loaded up

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with guests the rest of the week. So we reached out to him today

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and so just so come on.
We'll talk to him a little bit about

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big twelve media days from last week, as well as just kind of where

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things are. Oh. I did
find out from Jeff bow, one of

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the sports information guys, that Arizona
practice starts July twenty one, Wow,

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that's next week. Yep, July
twelve days Monday. Yeah, yesterday's the

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sixty days Sunday Sunday twenty first.
That's come a week up for that.

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Oh excuse me, thirty one,
oh oky, July thirty one. Yeah,

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we got another week after. That's
a Wednesday, So okay, Wednesday,

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July thirty first practice, all right, but that's going to be open

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for the miserable days in the mornings, you know, I mean, well,

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I guess spring practices were open,
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fun to be open. Yeah,
with those fly spray and the swatters and

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the you know, well, we
never we never made it to one in

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the spring because they were doing the
show right right. Well, we made

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it in the mornings where we take
our hat and kind of sit by the

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watch watch them go go squinch up
against the fence so you could get whatever

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little shade was was out there.
Yeah, so we'll see. But yeah,

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July thirty one, I Arizona football
practice starts with the season uh kicking

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off against New Mexico on August August
thirty, So let's five weeks from from

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practice to from from four and a
half weeks from practice to the first game.

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Okay, yeah, I see it
here Saturday Night Life skined I remember

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seeing that. I don't remember.
I had never seen that. It's pretty

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funny. I calling today. Yeah, okay, stuff. We'll talk to

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him more about that on the other
side of about ten minutes. Yeah,

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okay, cool, And then we're
gonna have the We're gonna have FC two

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Son on the next two days.
They're in the playoffs, so John John

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Crowman, the owner and president of
the team, will be on today.

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We'll just kind of talking about,
you know, the organization as a whole,

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the road together, the road and
stuff, and then we'll talk to

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their coach tomorrow afternoon and talk more
about the team and the how they got

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to, you know, how they
got to the playoffs, and then some

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expectations. They're hosting a playoff game. So it's this Friday at at Keno.

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So uh well, so we'll have
a couple of conversations about FC two

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Son. It's nice to have a
Tucson team and some playoffs we had the

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road Runners, the Sugar Clulls weren't
very good this year. They wrapped wrap

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up their season on Sunday or Saturday
on the road. Oh Okay, let's

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see that's on the road. Yeah
all right, yeah, they lost their

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last home game, this last something
like that. Yeah. So so anyway,

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so let's talk to FC two son
in the second hour with the John

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Promin. So I was watching the
watching the Back End of the World,

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the at the World, the Barron
der Roman Derby. Luckily I didn't have

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to hear the beginning with the I
miss it. I missed the national anthem,

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but man, it hit social media
immediately, So I asked, I

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asked somebody on that because I don't
know even who it was. Was it

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Roseanne bad? Was it Carl Lewis
Bad? Know it was. Here's the

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thing about it. She's allegedly a
singer. Carl Lewis is not a singer.

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Roseanne bar is not a singer,
you know. And I think rose

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Bard did what she did on purpose. Carl Lewis thought he could sing and

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couldn't this this is this is an
actual singer, and unfortunately you know you're

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hearing. No, no, it
was just key. This is terrible.

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It was like if you and I
you or I went on saying, you

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know and and we have no you
know, no no pitch. No.

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Yeah, I mean just it wasn't
smooth, right. I saw some of

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the guys laughing when they were listening
to it. Was awful. You feel

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bad now because she she's she tweeted
out that she was drunk and she's got

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an alcohol problem, and how she
checked herself into rehab today. She apologized

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for it and said she was hammered
while she while she sang that yesterday,

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and she recognized that's it. She's
got a problem and she's trying to do

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something. Did you see did you
hear it? I heard about the first

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three or four bars and said,
okay, I've heard enough, and I

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didn't listen to the rest of it. And I did catch the end of

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it because my daughter, my daughter
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table yesterday before you heard the end
of it, and I'm like, oh

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my god. So I went to
start to hear the beginning, you know,

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here, the whole thing, just
for the show, really, and

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I couldn't get I couldn't get past. Oh, say, can you see

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did you listen to it? Yeah? I watched. Did you list all

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the way to the end? Yeah? So did she like react like I

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screwed this up? Or did she
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it first started, I thought it
was ESPN because the sound was kind of

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like in and out. But it
just kept going and she just she was

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like, it sounded like she was
slurring some of the words at some point

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she was trying to drag out some
of the some of the words. She

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was just trying to do her own
spin. It sounded like, sure she

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was no Whitney Houston, no no, so but at the end, she

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didn't like, you know, think
God, I'm done, I'm sorry I

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screwed this up. I think she
just she like touched your ear at one

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play that maybe she lost her earpiece
or something. I think she didn't know

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sure, Okay, I was kind
of had know that it was. She

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had to have sure, and then
people let her know that it was Aul

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as you know how social media can
be, and it was you. I

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mean, I think at one point
I had like six tweets in a row

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on my feed that were the video
for singing the song. Yeah, and

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I'm like, this is obviously really
really bad. But yeah, somebody on

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Facebook who's typically negative, I said
to him, just be negative. And

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I guess, yeah, she was
bad because I did like, you listened

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to the first few and I'm thinking
that's that's not right. Yeah, and

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I said, okay, I understand
now, yeah, okay. But anyways,

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so then I watched Then I watched
the end of the series. It

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was a really good home run derby. Yeah. So let me say this,

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I can't remember three or four four
probably skinny dudes, hidden, lanky

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dudes, just lanky dudes. He's
not he's not Jose or the Philly dude.

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Yeah or what who? Right,
Gunnar Henderson the shortstop for for the

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Oreos. I'm thinking, who won? Who were these dudes besides? And

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then they're like, there're number two
pencils. Yeah, and they're hdden there

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hidden about four hundred fifty feet yeah
yeah, yeah, swinging the crap out

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of it. It was crazy.
It was fun. But I you know,

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I I got home from the from
the show. My son was at

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the house because he was coming up
for dinner. He had it on,

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you know, Adam, and because
there was a Dodger in it, well

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he would have watched it, but
Jascar Hernandez was in it, and so

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he obviously had it on and he
had a rooting and skinny dude, well,

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he's not. He's not a big
dude, but he's not a skinny

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dude. He's I don't know,
he's a guy now he's no, he's

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no junior of Guerrero junior, you
know those. He's not one of those

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big, big, bulky guys.
But he's not. He's not. I

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mean, he was of the guys. He was maybe I don't know,

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the second or third biggest guy of
the eight guys in the group. To

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me was like, holy craps,
dude. You know, he's a he's

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a he's a bit of a power
here. He's he's The Dodgers picked him

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up for this year. He's just
on a one year contract and he's playing

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really well. He's been a stud
for the position and outfielder. He's mostly

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a left fielder, but he'll play. He plays all the outfield positions.

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I guess maybe doesn't play center.
But he's done really well. He's on

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my fantasy team. Oh you didn't
care, you're happy kill him your kod

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wearing off. Yeah, it might
be just that's kind of scary. That's

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kind of scary, just in time
for football season. Might have a chance.

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But he he uh, you know, he won it. And it

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was cool and it was exciting.
You know, the last hit that would

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have tied tied it was off the
wall. So that was cool. It

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was like he hit it and you're
going no, yeah, it was because

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he did go into a butt in
the playoffs the time earlier. Yeah,

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in the earlier round. Uh and
uh and uh you know, and he

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wins it. So that was very
cool. That was very far for a

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million that's what it wasn't a million
bucks. His wife was happy, she

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was she was on the field.
She was like smacking him and kissing him

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and you know, like, okay, man, go get a room,

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Go get a room, and then
pick up the spend a million. Yeah,

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get the suitcase and go. So
that was fun. I enjoyed that

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that uh again, the Dodger guy
winning. I enjoyed that more than I

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probably enjoyed any of the home un
derbys that I've seen in the oil or

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at least. I mean, there
was those ones when I get it,

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Mark McGuire and those guys were all
roided up and stuff. But you know,

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those were fun when there was I
remember the one in Fenway Park up

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at Fenway, and you know,
and Sosa and McGuire and all those guys

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are hitting balls, you know,
out into the street, you know,

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over the over the big green monster. Uh. And so those things were

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those things were fun. Uh you
you find out after the fact why they

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were fun, but they were fun
to watch. This one was fun to

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watch, as you say, to
watch these guys, they are just average

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guys, right, you know,
hitting four and fifty tree and just kind

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of the motor mechanics, the way
they're swinging, the way they're swinging the

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bat. They're swinging the bat differently. Now they're swinging the bat to get

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you know, is again to get
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right, Okay, So that was
cool. Uh. So we have

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more breaking news with UA players maybe, Yeah, a couple of things locals,

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local, local girl. So there's
a lot of stuff going on,

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even though we heard the dog days. Yeah, and we're and we try

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to chase down sources people. We
did again today from the skin of oura

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I was like ten thirty and a
wait a minute, we haven't even started

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looking for guests for so we thanked
Justin for for jumping in today. And

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John Perlman for jumping in today.
You know, we have we put together

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a good show with those guys.
They're good guests. I'm interested to talk

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to Justin see where he's at on
on the Big twelve move and how that's

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looking. Yeah, and he did
have a story, uh that we kind

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of knew but not kind of confirmed. Brian Jefferies will be back. Yeah,

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he talked to Desiree yep, and
she said he'll be back. So

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that's good news for everybody who loves
Arizona. Yeah. Well again I had

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we tried to get Brian on the
show for that reason, like what's going

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on? And he's first he said, I'm taking a break, but second

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he said, just so you know
I am. I'm coming back. We've

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just got to get some some things
lined up. So we've known, we've

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known that. I didn't know whether
or not it was something that we could

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talk about, so we didn't,
but Desiree did so so we know,

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you know, they've just got to
again move some pieces around. Right,

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we just bring pregnancies on the show, exactly, exactly, Okay, that's

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good. Fifteen minutes it was to
Justin and see what he has to say.

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star Justin. How are you?
What's up, guys? Good afternoon,

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Good afternoon. Hey. Have you
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So Arizona? Then you Arizona?
You ever see those invisible carts around?

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Man? I'll tell you what.
People in Tucson, Arizona, they

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drive like they have nowhere to be. You know, you think you're poison

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and in the way. Or drive
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so many people live there. Well, so now you believe what I was

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telling you right about invisible drivers,
invisible cars whatever. I have no idea

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why I told you that. Back
in about a year ago, he said,

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what are you talking about, Steve. Watch there's a bunch of invisible

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cars, people waiting for cars that
don't come. What the hell just turned

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That's for another day, Jessin.
Good to hear from you. You're getting

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ready. You're doing your exercises for
a long season. Yeah, ready for

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the long season. And I'm getting
ready for the season by playing video games.

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Guys. Yeah, even well about
this. Yeah, the Sports just

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dropped a new video game, College
Football twenty five, and now Arizona football

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fans and fans everywhere can fire up
a gaming console and put on this game

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and they could throw touchdown passes from
no defeat to the teamax. It's really

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cool, man, It's really a
special game. I think EA Sports did

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a great job. But you know, you know, outside of that,

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man, I mean playing the video
game, going to Big twelve Media Day,

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looking up all these preview magazines,
just kind of getting the gauge up

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where you know college football is at
going into this year, especially with conference

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re alignment, and I think it's
safe to say this is probably the most

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anticipated football season in Tucson, Arizona, and I would say at least five

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or six years. It's funny.
I think you had a pull on Twitter

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like that, didn't you or you
had a question like that on Twitter.

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I saw, Oh yeah, it
was like, this is the most anticipated

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arizon A football season since And what
was the reaction, Well, a lot

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of people were going with, you
know, nineteen ninety nine, after the

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nineteen ninety eight season where they went
twelve and one, the I think the

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rock solid year where he had Teddy
Bruski and all of those guys on the

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cover, and then I think that
was the year where they got mopped by

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ten State. Is that correct?
No, that was after the twelve and

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one season. You know, I
would honestly say this is probably the most

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anticipated season since twenty eighteen, just
because, you know, when Kevin Someone

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was first hired, he had all
the buzz from coaching Johnny Manzel and he's

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inheriting this great quarterback in Khalil Tate
who's gonna take college football by storm.

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And then shoot about two quarters into
that era, we quickly realized, well,

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Khalil Tate and Kevin Someone's not gonna
be as good as we thought it

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was. But still the expectations in
that offseason with Coviell Tate on the Sports

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Illustrated cover Arizona, you know,
with with Kevin someone as the first year

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head coach. There's a lot of
excitement, But I'm very confident in saying

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that. I don't think this new
optimism that Arizona fans have is going to

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be quickly put to rest, like
the Kevin sumone are. I think with

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the nucleus, the guys they have
on both sides of the ball, and

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with Brent Brennan and the staff that
he has, there's just a different feel

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to this offseason. I think it
could be a magical year in Tucson.

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Well let's go, let's go to
the Big twelve as a whole. Because

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you're a media days Utah you know, picked to win the league, but

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you know five teams, including Arizona, got votes for first place. You

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know, there's been a lot of
the narrative, I guess has been it's

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a very even league and there's a
bunch of teams that have a sh this.

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You know, as you talk to
media members, as you talk to

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the coaches, went through all of
that. You know, what did you

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come out of there with in terms
of Okay, who are the teams to

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keep an eye on this year?
Well, the good news about Arizona and

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three other new schools going into this
league is you don't really have anything to

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compare to from last year with the
with the opponents right, So it's so

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hard, especially with the Transfitportal era, it's so hard to you know,

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figure out how these teams stack up
against each other. Because you know,

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Colorado was voted to finish I think
eleven in the league. They would not

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surprise me one bit after spending the
entire offseason getting a bunch of offensive linemen

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and the transit portal to protect shad
Door Sanders. I mean, that was

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their biggest need, was whyman,
and they got it on both sides of

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the ball. So it honestly wouldn't
surprise me. A Colorado turned some heads

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this year and they have a really
good year in year two under Dion,

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So you know, I could see
that happening. A lot of people gave

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me gup when I picked Iowa State
to finish second in the league. And

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I'm telling people that Iowa State is
returning ninety percent of their starters. They

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I think, you know, had
a really great record last year. So

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you go, you go seven and
five and you bring back essentially your entire

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roster. I think Iowa State is
going to be a force to be reckoned

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with, and I think they have
you know, one of the top dbs

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in college football. I think that, you know, Arizona, they have

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a realistic shot at winning the Big
Twelve this year. And I say that

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because, you know, you look
at some of the hardest games they have

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on the schedule. They're all near
the top, with Utah on the road

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and of course Kansas State and that
non conference game. But you know,

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outside of that, you know,
I think Arizona's going to be favored and

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essentially every game this season, maybe
not UCF. I think that's one game

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where Arizona could go down to Orlando
and potentially trip up that is the Space

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game, which is a big deal
for UCF. So there's a few games

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that I think Arizona will have trouble
in, but you know, if they

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can figure out those games, and
we saw them, you know last year,

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when the going gets tough, Arizona
figures out a way to you know,

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kind of clamp down and figure out
a way to compete in the game

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and win. Even you know,
that USC game last year, you know,

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a top ten team on the road
in triple overtime. They were so

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close. But from that point forward, Arizona was just a winning machine.

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And I think that'll carry over into
this season. And you know, good

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news for Arizona. They don't got
to play Oklahoma State or Iowa State or

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Kansas or some of these other teams
until potentially the Big Twelve Championships. So

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I think Arizona, the way the
schedule is set up, if they can

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survive those early tests at Kansas City
and now Yuka, I think that Arizona

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team could conceivably win ten more games
or ten games this year. So you

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mentioned your second pick. Where did
you put in Zona and who'd you have

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winning it? Probably obviously winning at
Utah? But who did you have Arizona?

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No? Obviously No, I actually
had Utah finishing fifth. Wow.

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Okay, yeah, yeah, I
think you know. Listen, I think

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Cam Rising is a great quarterback.
I think Bran Heathy at the best tight

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end in college football. But I
just look at those other teams and I

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like Oklahoma State a lot. I
think they have probably the best linebackers in

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college football, uh and Nick Martin
and Oliver. Then you also have the

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best running back in football, and
Olie Gordon and Mike Gundy is such a

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veteran head coach. I think,
you know, he kind of views this

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as a golden opportunity to kind of
stamped Oklahoma State as a premier program in

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the Big Twelve because they've been,
you know, finishing, you know,

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second fiddle to Oklahoma and Texas for
all of these years. Now the Big

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Twelve is open for the taking.
And I really like Oklahoma State and with

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the Cowboys have for this upcoming season. And then I asked, I have

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Arizona finishing third. I put them
to finish third in the conference. And

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like I said, I think the
schedule that they have can allow them to

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put together a very memorable stretch of
games to potentially even get into that Big

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Twelve championship. And you know,
it's crazy to think, guys, that

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here we are. You know,
I was at Allegiance Stadium, that's where

408
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:27.119
Big Twelve Media Day was, and
you know, the last time I was

409
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:32.640
at that stadium, Arizona was opening
up the season against BYU to start the

410
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:37.799
Jetfish era. And to think how
far this program has come since that point

411
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:44.000
pretty remarkable. Now it's time for
Brent Brennan and his staff to get this

412
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.000
roster that they're inherited and really set
the tone for the rest of his tenure.

413
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:53.839
No, I hear you. And
it's funny because there's so many different

414
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:59.400
opinions about what can happen. Right, as you mentioned you they've picked Utah,

415
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.000
has picked Utah, but everybody's all
over the board, which again,

416
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.519
it's it seems like that's gonna make
it fun, as much fun as we've

417
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:12.480
maybe had in a football season since
twenty fourteen, even right, and that

418
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.480
that was sort of an unexpected,
really good fun time. I don't know

419
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.519
that who saw that coming. I
know I didn't. And you know,

420
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:23.680
we talked all through that year about
how twenty fourteen was as fun of a

421
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:30.079
football season as we could remember because
you know, the ways some of those

422
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.279
games were played. There was the
Hill Mary and there was you know,

423
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.880
the Washington game, and you know, and it was kind of nobody saw

424
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.759
them winning ten games that year and
then they did. So, yeah,

425
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.359
you're right, but again I caught
you know, I speak with caution because

426
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:47.119
I'm that guy who's seen all those
ten when seasons turned to muck you know,

427
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.319
the year later, so you know, I expect to be fun.

428
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:56.359
You mentioned Iowa State. I think
you know, we had we had the

429
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:03.279
beat writer for Kansas State on yesterday
and he said, don't underestimate Iowa State

430
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.599
like you did, because he said, that's a tough place to go win

431
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.039
because we're asking, you know,
tough places to play, and they said,

432
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:15.400
you know, Iowa State is really
undervalued or underestimated in terms of how

433
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.200
hard it is to win there.
And so absolutely, we're you know,

434
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.359
we're kind of looking at that and
saying, wow, okay, you know

435
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:23.799
that, and Arizona doesn't have to
play that. You know, we were

436
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:29.079
looking at the schedule and it's saying
after they play Utah in Kansas State,

437
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.440
every other conference team that they play
is rated below. That was picked below

438
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:42.319
Arizona in in the uh in the
Meeta Pole, which that says a lot

439
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:47.079
for you know, for what you
know, where where they could work they

440
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:52.039
could wind up. Yeah, and
I think you need bringing up the twenty

441
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.359
fourteenth season. You know, there
were so many moments in that year that

442
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.720
could have gone the other way,
right the Hell Mary game, you know,

443
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.880
there there were some other games that
year, but you know, but

444
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.599
there was also some games that could
have gone in favor for Arizona, right

445
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.119
if Leonard Williams didn't come in and
block. I think it was Casey scalleron

446
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.480
field goal. Arizona would be you
see it or USUS. So that was

447
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:22.559
just such a wild season. But
I think that you know, Rich Rodriguez,

448
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.000
you know, had such a a
lightning and a bottle type of season,

449
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.640
and he didn't execute when it came
to recruiting, right, and you

450
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:36.480
know, in the years after that, Arizona was getting the okgs the are

451
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.400
kind of guys, which is a
friendly way of saying two star recruits,

452
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.480
and you know, every now and
again you get those the Scooby rights right

453
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.519
right, the linebackers who come in
and just are underrated and didn't really get

454
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.680
looked at. But you know,
I think the recruiting really reflected Arizona with

455
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.880
you know, the end of the
Rich Rodrigae the era, and they were

456
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.400
just kind of they they were who
they were. They were they were a

457
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.599
seven and five team that was going
to consistently get to a bowl game.

458
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.400
But you know, by Arizona fans
standards, that was totally okay. And

459
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.279
then you know, the program completely
got derailed and then Jetfish comes in and

460
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.799
revives the program and shows the entire
world like, no, you can win

461
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:23.519
at Arizona, and rather than you
know, all those players following Jet Fish

462
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.440
over to Washington are going elsewhere,
they decided, you know what, Yeah,

463
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.200
we can win at Arizona. We
got a really good team. Let's

464
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.720
stay locked in for another season.
But Brent Brennan has to learn from his

465
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:41.119
predecessors and use this season as a
way to set himself up and have a

466
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.640
long and successful future. You know, if you have success this year,

467
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.440
make sure he you're able to capitalize
on the recruiting trail with high school prospects

468
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.279
and also transitportal guy, and I
think they will. They're doing a great

469
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.000
job getting Texas prospects. They got
eight kids from the twenty twenty five recruiting

470
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.720
class from the state of Texas who
are very talented. And you know what,

471
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.519
the fans are going to look at
the Big twelve recruiting rankings on twenty

472
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.680
four to seven sports dot Com,
and I'll tell you what. Don't look

473
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.240
at the ranking, look at the
offers, look at other schools that are

474
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:14.680
recruiting these guys. And Arizona's that
recruiting sec Big ten in other Big twelve

475
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.160
schools, So not only is Brenton
Brannan doing a great job, you know,

476
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.960
staying in the moment for this year's
team, but I think his staff

477
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.480
is doing a really good job in
the future as well. But if they

478
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:29.759
can go out and have another successful, magical, memorable season for Arizona football,

479
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.319
I think that could really propel them
moving forward. What was who was

480
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:36.599
the last time and I covered this
long time ago with you, the last

481
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:40.839
time they had two good consecutive seasons
and you said, Okay, they get

482
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.960
some room, I thought after the
Southern Championship. Yeah, and you thought

483
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.279
to get some legs, you think, to the advantage of the recruiting.

484
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.920
It just didn't happen. No,
it didn't. None of the ten wins

485
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:59.000
seasons were close to that. The
next year you almost have to go back.

486
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.359
When you're talking about back to back
really good season, this is gonna

487
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:06.119
sign. I don't think you were
even born justin you know, eighty six

488
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.759
and eighty seven, No, eighty
five and eighty six, No, eighty

489
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:15.079
six, Shoot, the last two
years of the Smith's last two years,

490
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.000
yeah, yeah, yeah, no, because eighty five they were only like

491
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.160
seven and five first, yeah,
and eighty six, yeah, Jesus before

492
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:29.279
I was born only crap, you
know. But okay, look, okay,

493
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.680
ninety ninety three was the festival year. Ninety four they actually went eight

494
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.960
and four, but they had a
miserable loss to Utah in the in the

495
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.240
crap Freedom Bowl, and and so
that was, you know, that ended

496
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.839
on a huge down. Or so
they've never honestly, cannstantly say they've never

497
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:52.640
had back to back great seasons.
Something bad always happens the next year.

498
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.279
You mentioned the Penn State loss after
you know, in the ninety nine season,

499
00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:01.519
you know, the the twenty fourteen, you know, twenty fifth they

500
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.200
brought everybody back for twenty fifteen,
and that season went to crap early with

501
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.199
injuries. They with injuries and stuff, right, and then there was the

502
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:16.400
ninety four season. After the solid, rock solid season, they started on

503
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.679
ninety four and scrapped to be Georgia
Tech in the opener of the next year.

504
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.559
And then they were just never all
that good that year. So it

505
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.920
just hasn't happened. So that's why, you know, I'm sitting here thinking

506
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.719
only bad things can happen here from
here on, you know. Yeah,

507
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:38.039
And honestly, though, good news
for Arizona people going you know for their

508
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:43.320
team going into the Big twelve is
you know, even though Arizona's good,

509
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.920
there aren't going to be games where
the Wildcats are falling asleep, right.

510
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.440
I think in that game against Stanford
last year, the fact that they didn't

511
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.639
have any chance there. There was
nobody at that Stanford game. Yeah,

512
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.559
and Arizona was just kind of a
sleep. It was library like environment.

513
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.519
Every single game that Arizona's gonna be
playing in on the road, no matter

514
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:10.280
where they go, it's going to
be a rowdy crowd because people in the

515
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.880
Big twelve, guys, I don't
have you heard about this, but they

516
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.760
really do care about the sports,
especially their football. So hey, just

517
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.280
let me ask you. We've only
got about a minute or so. How

518
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.679
was the vibe different or was it
a Big twelve media day versus PAC twelve

519
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:30.360
media days that you've gone to.
You know, just a a sense of

520
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.840
excitement, a sense of urgency,
whatever you want to call it. What

521
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.079
was that like? Compare the two
Well pack Twell media to day was in

522
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:44.079
a hazy nightclub called Zooke, and
you know, we were sitting there finishing

523
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.360
up our work and they were like
kind of telling us, like, hey,

524
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.559
guys, sorry, we kind of
have to let you go. We're

525
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.400
beginning to open up for the night. I'm like, oh, that's why

526
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.559
the fawn machines are going up,
because this is a night club at nighttime,

527
00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:00.719
not the site for Packfroll media Day. And then the twelve media day

528
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:02.599
was at a Legia Stadium, the
host of the Las Vegas Raiders. So

529
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.920
I think that really shows you the
difference between the Big twelve and the PAC

530
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:12.360
twelve. It felt like Arizona hit
the big time, like they arrived,

531
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.400
they had a seat at the big
kids table. And I'm not saying that

532
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:21.000
the PAC twelve was always the little
kids table. You know, once upon

533
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.800
a time, as you guys know, it was a very prominent confidence but

534
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:30.559
due to terrible leadership over the last
you know, decade plus, the PAC

535
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.920
twelve fell so behind it, and
the Big twelve got ahead of them and

536
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.719
started adding a bunch of teams,
got teams for four different time zones,

537
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.920
got that great media right to deal
with ESPN and Fox, and it's just

538
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:45.840
it's a new era. You know. It sucks what happened to the PAC

539
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:47.679
twelve. It really does. I'm
always going to ride for the conference champions,

540
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:52.599
but it was time for Arizona to
figure out a way to stay with

541
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.119
the big boys of college athletics,
and this was the right move. And

542
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.039
Big twelve Media Days in Las Vegas, the two day events that Allegiance Stadium,

543
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:07.760
it felt very big time in comparison
to the nightclub Media Day last year.

544
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.000
And hey, the PAC twelve they
still did their thing this year.

545
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.880
They had Pack twelve after hours in
like a little tiny, like sweet lounge

546
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:19.639
in a Las Vegas hotel. They
had Washington State and Oregan State there,

547
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.760
and Conference Commissionersteresa Gold said, hey, we got an open bar because there's

548
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.639
anybody who deserves a drink tonight.
Well, they still have the humor.

549
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.760
So Jay Justin, how old are
you now? I am twenty nine,

550
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.320
twenty nine, and let me sound
proud of you. You know why you

551
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.679
sound older, a little bit more
jaded, and I like it. I'm

552
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:44.599
learning from the best guys, grumpy
little kid like did I like to get

553
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.079
to hear from you? Justin?
Hey, always a pleasure, guys,

554
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:50.960
Thank you, thank you. Hey. I'll go back to some of the

555
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.519
history to the christs check because I
have the media guys here at seventy three

556
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.719
seventy four. It looks like seventy
four to seventy five looks like the best

557
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.920
back to back years eight, nine
two, nineteen nineteen two. Right,

558
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:05.360
But again it's one of those seasons, okay, the second night, the

559
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.800
second ninety two seasons I think was
seventy five, right, seventy four and

560
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.480
seventy yes, seventy five year,
seventy five, seventy five okay, no,

561
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.480
no so, seventy three, eighty
eight and three, seventy four,

562
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:16.880
nine and two, and then nine
and two, okay, the nine the

563
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.079
second, the seventy five season,
that was the That was the season that

564
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.519
Arizona Arizona went into the ACU game
nine and one. ASU was ten and

565
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:32.039
oh and Arizona loses twenty twenty seven
to twenty four field goal Mexico. That

566
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.639
was a crazy game. I remember
that, an unbelievable game. They had

567
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:39.280
a guy, They had a guy, New Mexico had a guy, No

568
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:45.599
no, Steve something or other,
and he went into the NFL. He

569
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.679
and he threw the ball I was
at that game was an afternoon game.

570
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.320
Threw the ball all over the freaking
field that day. Nobody thought New Mexico

571
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.800
was coming in to beat Arizona,
and it was an incredible game. I

572
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.079
remember being at that game. And
and but Arizona loses to Asu. ASU's

573
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:06.719
undefeated Arizona's tenant nine to two,
second in the whack. Asu goes to

574
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.039
the Festival of Beasts, Nebraska and
made a name for themselves in Arizona head

575
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.960
went nowhere so again again a season
that was a great season, but it

576
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.280
ended in disappointment. And then Jim
Young a year later, five and six,

577
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:21.880
well we gotta go. We'll talk
more about this. Yeah, okay,

578
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.000
all right, we'll right back.
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579
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questions. So we talked about them. Going eight and three seventy three is

611
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.880
in ninety four nine and two six
on one in the WAC, the seventy

612
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.039
five nine and two five and two
in the WAC losing to only new mixicoling

613
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.519
issue. And then and then Jim
Young goes five been six, seventy and

614
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:06.880
seventy six. That was his last
year. Was he forced out No,

615
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.880
he was not forced out. He
he surprisingly went to Army. Oh okay,

616
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.079
okay, that's when he went to
Army and I was the head coach.

617
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.320
As the head coach, Okay,
that makes sense, And I you

618
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.360
know, people were like disappointed.
That text tells me how much I'd know

619
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.239
about Yeah, I mean, I
mean the five and six was a disappointing

620
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.280
season. Now, they did beat
ASU that year, which was the first

621
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:28.280
time they'd beaten ASU in like twenty
years or something like that. Not twenty

622
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.960
but a long time. What are
you talk about seven in his final year.

623
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.599
Yeah, no, it says they
lost to Issue ten twenty seven to

624
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.519
ten in seventy six. Oh you
know what, it was seventy four that

625
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.239
they gave U. Right, Okay, that was the time I rested the

626
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.840
field ten and zero, ten to
zero. Yeah, I've rushed the field

627
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:45.800
on that one. Yeah, okay, But he had beaten ASC, so

628
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.400
people were happy with him. But
it was kind of a you know,

629
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:51.800
it was kind of you know,
they had gone ninety two was the disappointing

630
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.800
season. He wasn't forced out,
but he did leave on his own to

631
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.639
go because a better offer. He
was more of that guy and we've had

632
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.760
him on the show too. The
thing was Army, you know, it

633
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.159
was kind of at that time.
You know, Army was sort of a

634
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.679
bigger deal than Arizona, right,
and he is a he was a Midwest

635
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:09.079
guy, you know, he's from
that area. So I think it was

636
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:15.039
you know that so and this was
this was the chance that so as a

637
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:16.599
kid, and I didn't follow it
that great because New Mexico sucked him that

638
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:21.440
in football. But this was the
time that the issue was the king,

639
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:25.280
right, Oh, totally the king. And they never capitalized it to be

640
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:29.880
more of a king in the Pack
ten pact. They did not, and

641
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.239
they had every chance. Well yeah, but all it all went to hell

642
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:35.360
in a hand basket when Frank Kush
got fired. Okay, that makes sense,

643
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:37.880
That's what it was. You know, Frank Cush was the legend.

644
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.239
He was there Bear Bryant, right, he had he had he had run

645
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.199
the show in college football in Arizona
all that time. And then he got

646
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:50.599
caught, you know, punching a
a player, punter in the chin,

647
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.119
you know, on the sidelines,
and uh, he got called Outfred the

648
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:58.440
I mean, Phoenix divided itself for
a long time over that because of the

649
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.079
people who are going to support Frank
Kushnam what he did, and then the

650
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.800
people saying, you can't do that
no matter who you are, sure,

651
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.199
and they ended up firing him towards
the end of A towards the end of

652
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.239
the seventy nine seasons. So tell
me, because I don't remember this being

653
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:17.239
just a teenager. It was just
before Schumlacher or or before what he has.

654
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.559
I don't remember when what he haz
tuish. It's yeah, this was

655
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.519
this pre this, Yeah, this
was in the God, what do I

656
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:32.000
want to say the seventy I want
to say the seventy nine season, seventy

657
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.719
nine or eighty maybe eighty maybe nineteen
eighty, I can't remember. Eighty one,

658
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.960
that's what it all went down.
Yeah, yeah, and and uh

659
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:49.119
man, I don't but he got
fired and that just that killed everything.

660
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.920
Now that you know again, A
you had some good years in the big

661
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:57.440
in the Pac twelve, they went
to two Rose bowls. Arizona soiled one

662
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.559
of their rose bulls by beating them
that year in eight six. But they

663
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.519
stopped being that, you know,
and then and then and again. The

664
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.679
whole thing was they wanted to keep
being that. What they were in the

665
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.599
whack and they went kicking and screaming
to the pack, to the pack.

666
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:14.559
Then Arizona made them, you know, the regents made them go because Arizona

667
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:16.440
was going. And John Shaffer,
who was the president of the u OF

668
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:21.800
at the time, he drove that
and and and mate brought, as you,

669
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.079
kicking and screaming with them, and
they just never it just never kind

670
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:30.079
of regrouped and became anything. So
that's what happened. Yeah, okay,

671
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.119
makes sense now. Even though I
was here gun here in eighty seven.

672
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.920
I talked to Frank Cushion eighty eight. I think it was for a story

673
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.280
because uh and I talked to him
about the change in the guard because they

674
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.119
had owned it right for a long
time, and then Arizona's came through and

675
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:46.159
started beating him on the regular right. And I can't remember what the story

676
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:50.440
was back in the day, but
he was glowing about Arizona. It kind

677
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.719
of makes sense too, because his
former place was treated him. Yeah,

678
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.119
his mine bad. I just looked
it up. He got fired in October

679
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.559
of seventy nine. I was the
tail end of the seventy nine Fine season.

680
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.519
Arizona ends up beating a sc that
year in the last game of the

681
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:09.320
season, I believe on a on
a field goal, right, Yeah,

682
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.599
they kicked the last second field goal
in that game and Arizona. Arizona went

683
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:21.239
to the to the festival that year, played Pittsburgh Dan Marino and and and

684
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.119
then and then Tony Mason got fired
after that year because of the because of

685
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:30.119
the cheating scandal. Still he passed
away years ago. Yeah, he passed

686
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:36.480
away years ago. And so,
uh so, you know, so you're

687
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:38.400
everything changed, Well, you're I
can say this public. I think your

688
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:43.480
brother depends. My brother was on
was one of his lawyers, Yeah,

689
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.199
because he's I think we had a
beer time together. He telling me his

690
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:52.000
his lawyer was Bill Healy was his
lawyer, and my brother was like a

691
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:57.559
co counsel on that. Yeah.
Yeah, so my brother defends Tony Mason

692
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.280
to the death. I'm like,
Rick, it's over each he chated and

693
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:07.800
he got caught, and I get
what they were doing was commendable. What

694
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:13.079
they were doing was they were they
were faking airline vouchers and getting that money

695
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.440
and giving it to players, you
know, for things like you know,

696
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:21.679
just money to eat and jobs and
things like that. At a time,

697
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:27.360
when the players weren't getting anything and
so, but they got caught, you

698
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.440
know, the Daily Star. I
want to polite surprise on his reporting on

699
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.639
that. I was working at the
Start at the time, so that was

700
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:36.239
a whole lot of fun around the
dinner table at our house. Yeah,

701
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.880
well, I think, uh,
I don't know if the didn't the Republican,

702
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:45.840
I'm the Republican, the Star get
a because I know Kimball was working

703
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.440
on some stuff. Yeah, but
a couple of guys got it. Can't

704
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.840
remember their names, but yeah,
they want a Pultzer on that. Then

705
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:58.880
the Mason and the coaches got criminally
charged for fraud, you know, for

706
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.559
what they were doing. And they
they they got they went to criminals.

707
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.840
And that's where my brother was when
one of his defense attorneys and they all

708
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:10.719
got to quit. So I can
still I can see there were like thirteen

709
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.159
criminal charges against Mason or something like
that, and he's talked about how he

710
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:20.559
won. He beat he said he
beat the arizon A Daily Star thirteen to

711
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.039
nothing, a funny quote something like
that, seven to nothing. Whatever.

712
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:29.119
Interesting time, you know, because
you had the community who really loved airs

713
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:30.840
on football program. But on the
other hand, you know, they got

714
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.599
charged criminally for some stuff, and
the air zone got put on probation,

715
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.079
and that was the end of what
ended up being the crap of that was

716
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:45.039
the air zone got put on probation
after the eighty at the end of the

717
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.639
eighty three season, they were not
allowed to go to Bowl game for two

718
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.920
years and they were off TV for
two years. And so these players,

719
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:58.920
you know, five years after this
stuff happened, are the ones that got

720
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.320
punished. And that was the Ricky
Ricky, Huntley, tom Ton and Cliffe

721
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:07.719
eighty three season that they went into
that season ranked Sports Illustrated, ranked and

722
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:09.719
fourth in the country or something like
that, got off to a great start

723
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.239
and ended up going seven to three
and one. I want to say something,

724
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.760
you can remember this and you can't
remember our guests, because Steve,

725
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.599
that was a very because you're influential
time in my life. You know,

726
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.800
we talk about you know, I
could go back, going back to nineteen

727
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:30.639
seventy three. That was the year
that I was old enough to start going

728
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.159
to football games by myself. I
was fourteen years old, and we would

729
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.599
We lived in a neighborhood where the
bus, the city bus, came right

730
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.199
down the street and we would get
on the bus and go to games,

731
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.000
and so I didn't have to have
my dad take me to a game anymore.

732
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.000
We could just go. So from
seventy three on, from seventy three

733
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:53.320
till today, I've probably missed six
home games at the moment, and you

734
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.480
have them all chronicled in some some
video stuff. So, yeah, and

735
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.000
then I used to Yeah, I
used to make videos. I used to.

736
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.280
I used to record the Larry Smith
Show and at the end of the

737
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.800
year, I'd make a you know, a five minute highlight video that's called

738
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.199
being a geek, totally total geek
Steve. Someday, someday I'll run through

739
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.800
my video Uh, my video library. There's some funny stuff in there.

740
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:17.880
But you know, we used to. I used to do that. It

741
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.360
was fun and it was it was
a little hotty than mine. How did

742
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.960
you find your lid? How did
your lid find you? That she loves

743
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:29.679
football? Okay, she loves,
she loves, she loves she loves that

744
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.760
she loves football. But initially she
loved the social aspect of football. For

745
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.800
all of us, you know,
football season was a chance to get together

746
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.559
on saturdays or tailgate parties and stuff
like that. But she loves the cats

747
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.800
and and you know she was she
was the uf A grad tune and stuff.

748
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:45.960
Her family wasn't you know. They
weren't a big sports family. And

749
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:50.400
she became that when she hooked up
with me, and I think that was

750
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:55.079
a big reason why she loves me
so much. Get a room, Get

751
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:59.440
a room. Just still do it? Though. Okay, good for st

752
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:04.519
hour, interesting for star too much
information I have, Steve, You're you're

753
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.880
saying the same thing my kids said. They say, how come you don't

754
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:12.199
know? Or like my daughter rach
would say, how did you forget to

755
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.800
pick me up? But you know
the score of the nineteen eighty three Arizona

756
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:21.199
ASU football game? Totally? Yeah, right, totally seventeen fourteen. It's

757
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:22.960
like what you'd call me on seventeen
fifteen. It's like a huge text me

758
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:28.519
in the morning. It says we
were guests, Jay, did we go

759
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.159
through this already? We did?
But we said how many times have we

760
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.760
sat here? And I can't remember
who the guest is on? Like coming

761
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.000
on in ten minutes? Yeah,
the seventy three three and one, blah

762
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.480
blah, what the hell you got
that? Right? You need that cognitive

763
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.559
test and hey, Ricky Hunley had
a big impact on me. Okay,

764
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.639
Ricky, you're out there, Lamont, if you're listening. Ricky had a

765
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.880
huge impact on my life. Those
are my early days, coming right out

766
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.119
of college. It was a lot
of fun. This concussion didn't happen.

767
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:58.840
Your concussion didn't have after exactly.
Okay, let's go all right, let's

768
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.519
take a break. We'll be back. Brian is here to break breaking news.

769
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.400
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