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Using free speech to free minds.
You're listening to the David Knight Show.

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As a clock strikes thirteen, it's
Wednesday, the twenty first of February.

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You're of our Lord, twenty twenty
four. Well, today the hearings,

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the final hearings, This is the
second day of hearings about Juliana Siance is

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going to be conducted. Absolutely amazing
the media blackout that is happening with the

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mainstream media, and so we're going
to begin by talking about that, and

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we're going to finish today by talking
about that. We're going to have Marty

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Gottisfeld on because if, as it
looks, this whole thing has been set

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up to extradite Julian Assange, they
will be putting him in a communications management

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unit, and there are now several
of these in the United States. Think

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of them as domestic gitt mos,
where they can manage your communications, where

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they can store dissidence so that they
can't communicate with people on the outside.

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And that's exactly what they did to
Marty Gottisfeld. So we're going to begin

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with that. We have a lot
of interesting updates to political news as well.

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When you look at this massive judgment
of about a half a billion dollars

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against Trump. It's far worse than
just the corrupt legal system there. It's

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all based on a very bad law. Maybe Trump should have focused on state

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politics. We'll be right back well
as a Julian Assan trial hits. We

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have a lot of people who have
shown up from all over the world for

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several days. Take a look at
the big crowd here. You'll see this

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kind of stuff on social media right
now. Right now, it is not

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being censored, so you'll find it
on Twitter at least, maybe not on

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other social media platforms, but it
is completely being censored in the press all

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over the Western press, especially in
America. And we'll talk about the absolute

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blackout of this, which is truly
amazing, because this is the most consequential

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trial about freedom of the press that
has happened in our lifetime, is likely

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to happen in our lifetime. Noisy
protest outside yesterday the Royal Courts of Justice.

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You can put that in air quotes
like it is here with our Department

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of Justice. Protestersro around the world
have gathered to demand the release of Juliana

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Sange, who said in twenty eleven
that almost all wars of the last fifty

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years have been started by media lies. Yeah, by the way, who

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needs a communications management unit prison when
you got the news being controlled by the

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mainstream media. And this is why
it is becoming ever more essential for them

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to ramp up their programs, the
censorship and surveillance, to bring in anticipatory

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intelligence, to bring in the CCPA, the Coalition for Content Providence and Authentication

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that I've talked about so many times, to be able to stop you if

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you are identified by these same people, these same mainstream media groups will be

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working the coalition put together by Darpain
Microsoft to have mainstream media identify you as

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somebody who is not part of the
narrative, and then they can and opposing

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the narrative. And after your marked
person, then Microsoft will work with the

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CPU providers Intel arm and with Maine
with a application generating software from people like

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Adobe to prevent you from creating this
stuff. Perhaps maybe it'll stop you from

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uploading, but I think it'll be
there to stop you from creating it.

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And so they've already put this together. It's being funded by the same people

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who created the Internet, who created
social media. That is the intelligence agencies.

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They want to control the information everywhere
your active reports. Major media organizations,

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press advocates in the Australian Parliament are
among those to crying Assigned just prosecution.

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Well, I haven't really seen any
major media organizations opposing this. Really.

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You got some of the big con
some of the big conservatives. We'll

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talk about it, but I only
kind of tangentially because see, the problem

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is their guy's part of this as
well. It's just like the pandemic.

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They can only go so far,
you know. They say, well,

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you know Julian ossingeeah, he gave
us some good information about Hillary and this

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is what Trump said. But then
when push comes to shove, they don't

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want to talk about the fact that
this began under Trump and you know continued

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by Biden. Just like the pandemic. They hate the pandemic, they hate

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the JAB, but they don't want
to draw those dots to Trump. So

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you kind of tread lightly there.
Assigne has been held without charge since twenty

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nineteen at the maximum security Belmarsh Prison, but he's been under custody for twelve

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fourteen years after spending seven years in
the Ecuador and embassy in London. So

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it's about twelve years. He was
arrested in the embassy in April of twenty

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nineteen, when Ecuador suddenly revoked his
political assylum after they had a change presidents

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in that country. Assange, forty
seven years old, was being held on

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behalf of US authorities as well as
for breaching his original bail conditions, said

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the UK police, Oh, really
okay, being held on behalf of US

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authority. So if the five eyes, if one of the five eyes,

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the big eye, tells another I
to hold somebody, then they can hold

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them. Just forget about any due
process, right, we take the dissenter

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and we do the due process later. It's just not simple. It's like

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the guns or anything else. Yeah, due process, Well, someday we

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might get around to it. He
has been held there. He's not been

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charged with any other criminal offense other
than he breached his original bail conditions that

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put you in solitary confinement for five
years, put you in an Equadorian embassy

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for longer than that. So there's
been no actual charges brought even on that.

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They haven't had a trial, he
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arrested inside the Ecuador and embassy.
In May of twenty nineteen, the US

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indictment against him was unsealed, revealing
a single charge of conspiracy. These people

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are conspiracy theorists. They charge everybody
with conspiracy. Isn't it interesting everybody's guilty

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of conspiracy, except when you say
they are conspiring to do something. No,

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was this a conspiracy, Of course
it was. It was a conspiracy

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between the CIA and the British intelligence
to come after him, and they have

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all other NATO countries as well.
It was a big conspiracy to commit a

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crime against fundamental values of free speech
and free press. The conspiracy, they

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said, was to commit computer intrusion. This is the way that they escaped

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the Pentagon papers issue. Remember the
Pentagon Papers had Daniel Elsberg, who recently

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passed away. He got some Pentagon
papers about the fraud of the Vietnam War.

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He released it to the Washington Post
New York Times. Steven Spielberg made

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a movie about what heroes the people
at the Washington Post the New York Times

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were when they defied the government's demands
that they not published this, and they

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published it anyway. And there was
a court case, and the court case

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decided that if you are given this
information by somebody, then you can print

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it. So freedom of the press
is about and so the New York Times

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and the Washington Post were protected under
that. Daniel Ellsberg, however, could

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be tried because he was the one
who stole it. Now they had a

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technicality that got Elsburg off. Perhaps
this whole thing was a part of an

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establishment move against the Vietnam War to
make sure that he got off. Nevertheless,

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the finding, which is consistent with
free press and free speech is that

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if you didn't steal it, somebody
hands you something, you should be able

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to speak about it. Otherwise there
is no free speech. And so what

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they did with Julian Assigns was they
tried to pretend that he was active in

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terms of obtaining these documents. And
you know, they don't charge him with

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actual computer intrusion. They charge him
with a conspiracy to do that. Well,

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I would certainly like to have information
if anybody's got it about the crimes

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that are being done by our government. You say that, well, you

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are part of a conspiracy to get
those papers. That's the nonsense that this

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whole thing hinges on. Now they've
subsequently added additional charges because after they extra

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died him. Legally, technically they
cannot add more charges, so they've added

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more charges. They're looking at keeping
him in jail for one hundred and seventy

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five years. And we'll talk about
the kind of horrific conditions that people who

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are dissidents like Marty Goddisfeldt being persecuted
by major corporation Harvard Harvard Medical, the

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hospital there, or are somebody like
Schaefer Cox who is a political dissident who's

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been kept in one of these communication
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is a recent development, these CMUs, and they've now I think gone from

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he was in the first one,
which is an Indiana. I think they've

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now gone to like three. We'll
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when you go back and look at
the Pentagon Papers movie, like I said,

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back in twenty seventeen, which was
at this point in time, Julian

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Osonge had been essentially under arrest in
the Ecuadorian embassy, and so Steven Spielberg

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does this movie to show how wonderful
the mainstream press is. The mainstream press

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that doesn't fight for Julian Osane's release. They had Tom Hanks, Meryl Streep

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and this Steven Spielberg movie, What
Heroes, What courageousness, and yet silence

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about Julius Senge And of course what
it was doing was it was getting you

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know, you can trust the Washington
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so honest, you know, when
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Johnstone had I think I forgot to
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tweet I saw this morning. I
retweeted it and she said, Okay,

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so these people are saying that because
this was done by two presidents, that

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means that there's nothing partisan here about
it. This is not political. It's

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just he's a criminal and he needs
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his life. She says, Do
you really think that these people are acting

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on their own? You don't understand
that this is part of the American empire?

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Do not understand who the real government
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CIA. You know, Other than
Tucker Carlson's fantastic revelation last week of something

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that all of us have been talking
about for decades, everybody in the world

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understands that unless you are completely living
in that little mainstream media bubble that Tucker

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Carlson thinks you're living in So why
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Well, he did that to avoid
a charge of rape in Sweden,

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which is quietly dropped in twenty nineteen
following a review of the evidence. They

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didn't want to have a trial for
that. They didn't want to have a

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trial for him. You know,
doing anything, do you take the person,

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You do the punishment, and maybe
you do the trial later. Maybe,

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who knows. The British government passed
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December, very expansive and in it. When they were debating this law,

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they expressly mentioned a data dumps through
WikiLeaks is a major reason for criminalizing investigative

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journalism pertaining to issues of national security. Under this act, journalists from quote

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non accredited sources unquote. Oh,
I mean I don't have a license to

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speak from Nancy Pelosi or her ilk. This is something they've been looking at

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for quite some time, of course, and we had during the Obama administration,

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they had the FCC go around and
interview people in news rooms, television,

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radio and things like that. How
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It's like listen to your business,
and this is not. First of all,

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the FCC was set up to allocate
radio frequency spectrums and TV spectrums and

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so this is a public good.
This is something that crosses state lines.

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And so you know, they set
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sell off these different frequencies, different
spectrum and that's it. That's it.

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But as any self respecting bureaucracy does, they're always looking at ways to expand

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their mission. Mission creep and these
creeps expanding their mission, decided they wanted

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to get into content and they've been
increasingly moving in that direction and so in

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the UK, and part of that
was to say, well, what's the

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difference between real media and other people? Well, frankly, I don't really

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care. First of all, the
First Amendment protects the press and also protects

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the speech of any individual. So
what I don't care if you recognize me

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as the press or not. Just
look at me as an individual who has

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equal rights to speak freely. And
so non accredited sources in the UK,

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Oh, you're not a licensed journalist, or maybe you're not somebody that has

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been bought out either by money or
by delivering access. You know, Tucker

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Carlson has talked about Julian Assandra in
the past, but not to the people

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who matter. You had Candace Owen
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one, the only one who would
ask him about it. She didn't press

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him when he kind of wiggled around
out of it. Well, I'm not

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going to say who this is.
And I didn't pardon Snowden, I didn't

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pardon nos songe. And you know, one of them is kind of a

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spy thing or something and the other
one isn't. I'm not going to say

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which one is and which one isn't
it. But you know, I had

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a bad feeling about a little bit. So why'd you have a bad feeling

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about it? You know, just
this wishy washy answered it was about him,

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you know, but he wasn't even
asked that about Tucker. Tucker,

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you know, used Trump this big
interview with the first debate. Thing doesn't

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want to look. It's all about
maintaining access. That's the way they control

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these They don't have to write them
a check. They do often they do,

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oh well, you know this is
for a special grant to study this

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or that or to shore up media. That's not profitable. We'll write you

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a big check. But the biggest
check they can write them is to show

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up. And if you ask these
Republicans, if you are Fox News or

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Tucker, or if you ask the
Democrats, if you're seeing In or MSNBC,

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if you ask them pointed questions and
persist in it, well you don't

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get access to these people anymore.
It's safe for Tucker to do it with

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some politicians that are well past their
cell by date, like Pence. You

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know, he followed up on Pence. He made an idiot out of Pence,

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but that was for the maga crowd
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for truth. And he doesn't have
to worry about not getting access to Pence.

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Nobody wants access to Pence. He's
gone and he was a dead man

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walking at the time in terms of
politics. With an outcry from both left

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and right liberals in the UK against
this thing that would bar journalists from non

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accredited sources. You face years of
imprisoned by the way if found to be

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publishing material that is contrary to the
official narrative. This is the death of

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the West and you see it in
everything I've been seeing this type of thing

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for climate deniers, pandemic deniers,
you know, vaccine deniers, election deniers.

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You do not question their official story
on anything, or you get punished.

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And now they want to take it
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canceling people, not just financially deplatforming
people. They want to go to incarceration.

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And that is what the assigned thing
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normalizing it to the next level.
They can do it to assigns, so

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they can do it to anybody.
And that's what they said in their debates

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back in December, the new National
Security Act. So people were liberals,

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whether they were right wing or left
wing, described this verdict on Assigne as

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a verdict on the future of journalism
and free speech in the West. As

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with the US, the European Union
and its member states, the UK is

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taking steps to titan state control of
information. By the way, this is

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many different sources talking about this is
that are not mainstream, totally blocked on

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the what are the accredited sources?
But this is Life site News did an

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excellent article on it. I think
they had the best article. Tucker Carlson's

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most recent broadcast revealed they said the
shocking degree to which US intelligence agencies collude

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with Google, Facebook and other social
media platforms. Again, everybody wants to

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talk about that. Everybody wants to
talk about Tucker. He didn't real anything,

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he didn't reveal anything. We knew
all of that, but now we

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can trust it because now it's been
told to us by Tucker Carlson. Reporters

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without Borders tried to get in to
observe this trial. They were barren actually

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from visiting him in prison. They
can't go to the trial. They put

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the trial in a very very tiny
courtroom. It only has fifteen seats in

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this courtroom. But this same Royal
Courts of Justice in London has got a

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lot of courtrooms, many of them
are huge, but they put it in

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the smallest one that they could find. Sorry, we don't have any more

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room. Sorry sorry, Oh yes, we'd love to accommodate you, but

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we can't. They also said,
as Julian asign just fate hangs in the

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balance. It is more crucial than
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world to speak out and support other
principles at stake. And this is not

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just about his speech again, this
is about you. If you have anything

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to say on social media or anywhere. You know, when Aaron day I

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interviewed about CBDC when he had his
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is you know, Life under CBDC, it was simply about you know this

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this family and how after the father
spoke out about one issue that the government

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took issue with, they essentially took
everything from the family. They had the

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power to do it with CBDC.
They have the will to do it now

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that will give them the power to
do it. So these reporters of that

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boarders barred from visiting him in prison. They described reporting restrictions around Assange as

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the worst that they have ever seen. Live Streaming of the hearing is limited,

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some crucial testimony as an audible,
with the extradition case being heard in

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one of the tiniest rooms in the
Royal courts. And you know, it

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is kind of interesting when when Karen
and I when we got married, we

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basically just lived in London for about
six weeks because and you know, we

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didn't have any money, but we
just just like one notch above a youth

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hostel that we're staying. But we
did all the free stuff, and one

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of the free things you know,
we'd hang out at the Speaker's corner,

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watch the debates and stuff. We
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and have Thursdays was questions to the
Prime Minister. I guess they still do

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that. But we went one day
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and you queue up in a line, and you don't know if you're

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going to get in, and if
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case you're going to go to,
and so and so you said, we

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just kind of dropped in on this
one case. It was very interesting,

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the one that we happened to get
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international intrigue and involved the CIA.
It involved Malta, not the Falcon,

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not the Maltese Falcon, but it
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to figure out, you know,
what's going on. We're jumping in the

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middle of this trial because you can't. The reason I mentioned this is you

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can't, at least of the Old
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public gallery. You can't go back
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I want to go back to this
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don't know which one you're going to
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really really interesting. And then someone
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happened in Malta, and the judge
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stop, stop, judge, we
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courtroom and we got kicked down just
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as they started to talk about the
CIA. And so we go back and

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requll what Julian Assine was saying back
in twenty eleven about war. This is

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one of the reasons they put him
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completely subjugate Afghanistan. The goal is
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the tech spaces of the United States, out of the text basis of European

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countries, through Afghanistan and back into
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That is the goal ID. The
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no more successful war. Oh yeah, that's right. And so Hillary

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Clinton said, can't we just drone
this guy? Yeah. Bablin B had

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their take on the Trump Golden slippers
laughing about yesterday. Their take on it

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was that Hillary Clinton then come up
with a new line of cement shoes that

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you tried them many times, never
had any complaints come, none of them

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were ever returned. But yeah,
no return policy, not just for the

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shoes, but for the person who's
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So she says, can't we just
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you know, when Juliana sign Train
looked at Trump, he said, well,

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we know that Hillary Clinton is a
murderer, and we know that she's

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hopelessly corrupt. He says, we
don't know wh what Trump is. We'll

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find out. Well, Trump is
the guy who initiated the process, is

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going to keep you in prison for
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We found out who Trump is.
I found out who Trump is.

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I said the same thing about it. It's like, well, yeah,

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we don't like Hillary Clinton. This
guy's never held public office before. We

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got a lot of big warning signs
about his integrity. His integrities were flashing

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like a neon sign at one of
his casinos, and his integrity problems were

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flashing like that. But you know, we now know who he is.

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A sign she has been threatened with
a drone strike by Hillary Clinton, having

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laid the blame in twenty fifteen for
the creation of ISIS by American destabilization of

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the Middle East, including Clinton's worle
in the destruction of Libya. And as

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a matter of fact, some of
the stuff that was leaked out there,

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never forget the fact that Hillary Clinton
is some of those emails that Wiki Leaks

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put out there, we saw that
they were coming after at Afi at that

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time. I mean, the guy
had literally been a terrorist. He'd blown

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up airplanes and things like that.
But after you know Reagan, you know,

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sending cruise missiles and things like that, blowing up tents and some of

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his family members, he stopped with
that stuff and he started focusing on making

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Africa independent. They had a large
amount of gold there, have a tremendous

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reservoir of water that they had.
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we saw that the European central bankers
are very concerned about the competition that

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Kadafi with his gold standard currency was
going to go into competition with these central

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bankers and their fiat currency, and
so that's why they wanted to take him

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out. According to Hillary Clinton and
some of the leaked memos, her remark

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about droning Julian Assange was reported by
WikiLeaks in October twenty sixteen, citing evidence

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from a US State Department memo and
report from True Pundit October two, twenty

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sixteen, detailed the exchange. Following
Clinton's alleged drone proposal, another controversial remedy

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was floated in the State Department to
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and extradition to the United States.
Numbers were discussed in the realm of a

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ten million dollar bounty, and the
report also noted the bizarre atmosphere of the

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US State Department under Hillary Clinton.
A State Department source described that staff meetings

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were bizarre. One minute, staffers
were inquiring about the secretary's blue and black

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checkered knit sweater, and the next
minute the room was discussing the legalities of

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a drone strike on Assange and of
the financial bounties. That's what happens when

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you get these thetalitarian girl bosses together. Should we talk about the sweater or

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should we talk about our assassinations?
I don't know, We'll just alternate.

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An independent campaign that challenges media bias
is how they describe themselves. Fair is

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the name fai R found almost ten
times a number of mentions for the Russian

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dissident Alexei Navalney then for Julian Assange. As a matter of fact, I

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looked at this morning, and I've
got all over a dozen mainstream media sites

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that I go to, things like
CNN, BBC, NPR, USA Today,

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Washington Post, New York Times,
things like that. And so I

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quickly pulled them up and did a
word search on their website. Right on

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their homepage, I should say,
are there any articles about Assange? Went

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through all of them? Zero?
What about Navalney? Oh well, Politico

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had seven articles about Navalney, CNN
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There was one article each at Fox, BBC, Guardian, USA Today,

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New York Times, Reuters had two
articles about Navalney. All together, they

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had the sites that I checked twenty
six articles about Navalney. Nothing about assannge

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on these mainstream press organizations. Now, if you want to find out what's

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going on, you really got to
go to social media. Why is Navalney,

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who has never been very popular with
the Russian people so important? But

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a Songe is not well? Because
as Songe is the West's Navalny. He

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is a dissident. Whether or not
he is popular, he's very unpopular with

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the people in power. That's what
they have in common. And one of

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the articles that I saw about Navalney'
said, oh, yeah, they secretly

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moved him to another prison. You
know, he was there. They knew

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who he was, and they were
talking to him, and so they moved

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him to this prison in the Arctic
Circle and we couldn't find him. Well,

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it just disappeared nobody knew where he
was. And then they figured out

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where he was, and shortly after
that they poisoned him up there. I

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thought, oh, okay, well, we have purpose built prisons for that,

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don't we. They call the Communication
Management units that we'll be talking about

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in the third hour. So,
you know, how are these things different?

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I compared it the very first day
I talked about this, when all

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this stuff happened with Navalni and I
didn't even realize that his signs court dates

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were coming up this week. But
I said on Monday, I said,

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so how is that any different?
It's the same thing. We do the

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same things. You know, we
imprison journalists. We know people die in

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prison in America that are dissidents and
so forth. Why is that different,

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Well, because it's us, we're
special. So New York Times was one

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paper which cooperated what WikiLeaks described as
a two million dollars smear campaign against Julian

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Assange. Let me interject here that
you know, we go back and we

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look at the journalist Gary Webb who
exposed a part of the you know,

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the the crack cocaine up and they
making how they were using that to fund

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secret wars in Central and South America. At first he got journalistic awards,

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and then they created a smear campaign. Not the New York Times, but

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they used the La Times to smear
him. And after they smeared him and

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got him fired from a lot of
different places, then he started to make

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his comeback. And then when he
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Navalney, he was murdered. They
said it was suicide. No, he

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was making his comeback. Then if
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it was not suicide. Elizabeth Voss
for Consortium News reported in twenty twenty three

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how corporate media has repeated smears against
Assange showed the legacy news media is not

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simply a second rate form of journalism
in comparison with wicked leaks. But it

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is intentionally opposite, and so,
in other words, wicked leaks tells you

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the truth. They lie to you
in order to start wars, as he

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said. But you know, now, supposedly Tucker's figured this out after working

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for these sources for the longest time. By the way, when they did

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that with the La Times, they
had several dozen reporters that were working on

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going after Gary Webb because it was
a pretty big and there were other sources

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that verified what he had to say
and big sources who talked about that.

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As a matter of fact, the
guy who was at the very center of

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pushing this out so that he was
put up to do it. It was

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a guy's name, the rap guy
anyway, had the same name as a

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rapper. But he made a lot
of money doing it. He went to

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prison for doing it. He exposed
that the CIA was a part of this

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as well, validated web day Gary
Webb did so anyway. In twenty seventeen,

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early on the Trump administration, Trump
was reportedly willing to negotiate a pardon

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for a songe if he could work
out if he would out the sources of

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the DNC emails and if he would
disprove Russiagate once and for all. In

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August of twenty sixteen, as Songe
made comments on Dutch television that all but

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admitted that the source of the DNC
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So why not admit the identity of
a dead source, if indeed it

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was Rich, why not disprove Russiagate? Why not do this for Trump so

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that he could get what is freedom? Well? Because Wikileak's obligation, according

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to Assigns, was the absolute protection
of sources, no matter the cost.

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It is a principle that may prove
to cost the award winning journalist his life.

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You see, Trump is about Trump, is about things that reflect for

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Trump. He is about Trump.
He's incapable of acting, as his lawyer

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said, except out of his own
perceived self interest or revenge. The world

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is not going to be changed by
Trump or people of his ilk. Self

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serving narcissistic politicians will not change the
world for the better. They will change

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it for the worse. There's going
to be people who stand on their principles,

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even if it cost them their life. It will change this world.

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Wiki leaks. I love Wiki eliks. During the twenty sixteen election campaign,

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Donald Trump repeatedly extolled the leaker of
the Democrats seeks and reveled in the damage

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he believed Wiki leaks would do to
Hillary Clinton's campaign. This WikiLeaks is like

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a treasure Trump. It's a different
story now that Julian Assange is under arrest

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and facing a criminal conspiracy charge for
the theft of official US secrets Wiki leaks.

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I know nothing about Wiki leaks.
It's not my thing, and I

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know nothing really about him. I
don't really have any opinion. Trump's longtime

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friend and advisor Roger Stone has boasted
that he kept the Trump campaign in direct

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touch with a Songe he faces criminal
charges for trying to cover up his contacts

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with WikiLeaks. He became a willing
player with the Russian Stone. Democrats are

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hoping in a songs Bob Menendez means
they'll get some man goldbar was going on

409
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.360
between Russia, WikiLeaks and the Trump
campaign. I think is very good for

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us to finally get him. Mention
on us soil, Joe Minchin. You

411
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can investigate, we can basically cross
examine. We can find out the facts

412
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.679
that only he knows, and his
connections and how he basically distributed his information.

413
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.599
Wiki Leaks believes that's the whole game. That the charge today is an

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attempt to get a songe extradited to
the US on one crime and then force

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him to testify or be prosecuted on
other things. So Keith, it seems

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clear there's been an evolution in the
way Trump perceives Assage. But there was

417
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a time when Americans were really divided. I mean, you know, was

418
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the this is Canadian Broadcasting Corporation US
national security? Is that still the case?

419
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.400
Well, not to the extent it
was, And that's because of what

420
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we've learned with the passage of time. Massage really does seem to focus more

421
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on exposing US secrets than those of
other countries such as Russia or China.

422
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And in the twenty sixteen election,
he seemed clearly to be a Russian tool

423
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:49.719
in the stination of the Clinton campaign
emails now speaking tools the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation,

424
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.599
and the twenty twenty election was running
that are they tools? You better

425
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.760
believe they are tools. And you
noticed in that video, yeah, Joe

426
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.800
Manchin, oh yeah, we got
to get Julian Massage back, why was

427
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:08.039
Joe Manchin's name being floated around because
folks, he's owned by the CIA,

428
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:12.280
like the rest of them. Right, if they float your name around there,

429
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.400
if they promote you, and of
course they can promote you even by

430
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:21.039
attacking you as we see with Trump. But if they promote you, and

431
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.159
you know, you're allowed to compete
in the pageant, the beauty pageant that

432
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.800
we call an election, if you're
allowed to do that by the US Empire,

433
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.199
by the CIA, the intelligence communities, well then that's kind of a

434
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:37.000
tell. And he'd already told everybody
where he stood, publicly identified himself.

435
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.760
Interesting that Menendez would say, well, we're going to have to have some

436
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:47.480
criminal charges against Roger Stone because he's
been in contact with Julian Massage. Uh.

437
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:57.119
Yeah, Bob Menendez, who has
been up for multiple indictments of allegations

438
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.360
of bribery. The FBI found all
the goal bars and all the rest of

439
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.199
this stuff there. That guy,
that guy, Yeah, he's going to

440
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:09.239
do the investigation for integrity. Washington
is just so hopelessly corrupt, and so

441
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:15.119
is the media, all completely owned
by the real government that never changes,

442
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.320
the CIA. So going back to
some of the things that Julian Assige has

443
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.559
said. Nearly every war, he
said that started in the last fifty years,

444
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.719
has been the result of media wize. The media could have stopped it

445
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:31.119
if they hadn't reprinted government propaganda.
He'said populations don't like wars and they have

446
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:36.440
to be fooled into wars. If
we had a good media environment, then

447
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.119
we would also have a peaceful environment. It's my opinion. He said that

448
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:42.719
the media are so bad that we
have to question whether or not we would

449
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:47.400
be better off without them altogether.
Yeah, you don't have to watch them.

450
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.079
The problem is we don't want to
start picking and choosing who gets the

451
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.599
talk. You know, I would
never cancel, for example, CNN or

452
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:05.320
MSNBC. They are a useful example
of what the government wants to push,

453
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:10.559
so you kind of know the opposite
of the truth, so as they point

454
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out here. The former Finance Minister
of Greece spoke of his recent vision a

455
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:21.639
visit to Assange. He said Singe
has been suffering twenty three hours of daily

456
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.599
solitary confinement and the course this has
been going on for him for twelve years,

457
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:29.880
twelve years. This is the same
kind of treatment that our CIA government

458
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.559
wants to do to the January sixth
people as well. If you care for

459
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.440
your right to know what your government
is doing behind your back, then you

460
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.199
must support Julian Assange, because Julian
Nossige is dying for your right to know

461
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:44.719
what your government is doing on your
behalf. And you've got people who are

462
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:53.880
in jail life sentences dying because they
have the audacity to criticize the government's elections

463
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:01.400
that have always been corrupt. It's
just that they were foolishly going to bat

464
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.239
for the man who had locked them
down with medical martial law preceding year.

465
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.599
So again, today is the second
day of the hearings, these extradition hearings

466
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:16.960
that are going to happen, and
he is indicted also now with the nineteen

467
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:23.559
seventeen Espionage Act. This is something
that characterizes the Obama administration. You know,

468
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:30.639
he finished his eight years in twenty
and seventeen, right, and so

469
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:37.920
Obama in his eight years as president
used the Espionage Act against more people than

470
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:43.920
all the other presidents combined in that
last one hundred years from nineteen seventeen to

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00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.679
twenty seventeen, he had more people
charged of that. He went after people

472
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.599
like Bill Bennie, He went after
people like Thomas Drake, these NSA whistleblowers.

473
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.960
He accused them of the violation of
the Espionage Act, Sowed and all

474
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:01.519
the rest of these people. So
they have come after him for that,

475
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:07.000
for the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, for publishing classified military documents and so

476
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:13.119
forth. And it is interesting that
again, you know Obama with the heavy

477
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:19.039
CIA connections in his family, Bill
Barr with the heavy connections in his life

478
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.440
with the Bush family. George H. W. Bush brought in to fix

479
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:29.719
to restore the CIA after the hearings
that were not about heart attack, guns

480
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.280
and assassinations. The hearings of the
church hearings and the Pike hearings were about

481
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.480
the CIA and the NSA spying and
American citizens. And out of that we

482
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:40.000
got the FISA Act and the FISA
Court. And then they turned around and

483
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:45.719
used that to rubber stamp their surveillance
of mister and missus Rise. In other

484
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:52.159
words, they had all of these
hearings and supposedly changes at the CIA,

485
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.920
and what came out of it was
something to stop them from spying on the

486
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American public, which they've been doing
from their inception. Instead, what they'd

487
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.280
use, then, is that act
to give them legal cover for that.

488
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:13.400
John Rizzo, who was the lawyer
for the CIA, he invented this euphemism

489
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:20.119
of enhanced interrogation, and he said, I watched those hearings when I was

490
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.800
a young lawyer, and I looked
at it and it's like they need a

491
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.920
good lawyer. And so he decided
that he could to work for the CIA

492
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:34.039
to help them lie better. He
wrote his book called it Company Man,

493
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.800
because the CIA always referred to himself
as the company and he was a company

494
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.800
man. That's exactly what he did. And so Bill Barr was a company

495
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.880
man as well. Bill Barr worked
with George HW. Bush to help rebuild

496
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:52.400
a CIA in its reputation after all
of that exposure. And then when George

497
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.320
H. W. Bush gets appointed
by the CIA as president, he brings

498
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:00.480
Bill Barr in with him as a
very young attorney general. And as soon

499
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.239
as Trump put in this CIA shill, you don't think that the CIA controls

500
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.000
Trump. As soon as Trump put
in this CIA shill, it's only a

501
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:13.760
couple months later that all this stuff
rolled out in twenty nineteen against Julian Assange.

502
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.039
And Bill Barr knew how to how
to get his partners in the Five

503
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:27.280
Eyes to grab him and to put
him put these charges against him. So,

504
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.280
his wife, Stella Sossannge has warned
that if a judge rules against Assigne,

505
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.320
he could be on a plane to
US soil in a matter of days.

506
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.960
Here is what his wife is saying. In the United States is abusing

507
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:45.519
its legal system in order to hound
and prosecute and intimidate all of you.

508
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:55.119
What's at stake is the ability to
publish the truth and expose crimes when they're

509
00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:09.239
committed by states. The outcome of
this hearing today will make it clear the

510
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:21.599
extent of the cover up the only
fair I shouldn't even talk about fairness at

511
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:27.440
this stage because the country that's trying
to extradite him thought it to murder him

512
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:31.039
in the United States. Yeah,
and so isn't it interesting? Weh she

513
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:35.239
talks about crimes being connected by the
state. One of the key things that

514
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:42.679
really bothered them was that film called
it's been named Collateral Murder where you see

515
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:49.159
the US military's gunship and the video
that they obtained from it where they're watching

516
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.119
people. They got a journalist and
a bunch of other people, civilians that

517
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:59.239
they shoot up, and then they
wait until the clearly marked medical ambulance shows

518
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:04.599
up and they put the people that
have already been shot up into that ambulance,

519
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.000
and then they let loose again and
shoot up the ambulance with the dying

520
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:15.800
people inside. Collateral murder. US
Army helicopter crews laughing as they gunned down

521
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.760
a group of Iraqi civilians, including
journalists and children and even the medics that

522
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:25.559
are there. And so they published
that that was a crime. That was

523
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:30.079
a crime. Now did anybody get
charge of the crime for that after we

524
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.199
saw that? No, what happens
when you've got an institution, Like I

525
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.920
said, any institution can have bad
people in it. You know, we

526
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.480
talk about the police, or in
this particular case, to talk about the

527
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:46.960
military. It's not an indictment of
the institution to talk about the bad people

528
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.679
that are there. It becomes an
indictment of the institution when the institution doesn't

529
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.480
do anything about the bad people,
when it protects them. When in the

530
00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:00.880
case of the FBI, and you
got ln Horyucci who assassinates a Randy Weaver's

531
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.320
wife holding a baby in her arms, and then they give lan Horiyucci a

532
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.840
medal. Okay, we can forget
about the FBI now as having any integrity.

533
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:17.119
And so when they embraced this as
they did with the Clateral murder,

534
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:21.360
instead of coming after the people who
did the murder and who laughed about it,

535
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:22.840
they come after the guy who tells
you the truth about the murder.

536
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.039
And then when you look at Vault
seven, for example, other people broke

537
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.159
in and got Vault seven, which
was the CIA blueprint. We just had

538
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:37.360
a guy, Joshua Schulte who's been
sentenced to forty years in prison for giving

539
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:44.480
Wiki leaks Vault seven, and other
people got it as well, And so

540
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:51.440
Joshua Shulte is kind of like the
Daniel Ellsberg of the Pentagon papers. But

541
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.559
they want to now come after the
people who published it Wiki Leaks, unlike

542
00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.760
you know, the New York Post
of Washington, the New York Times of

543
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:05.719
Watcher Post and so vall seven,
which they will talk about how this guy's

544
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.440
going to jail for forty years recipeonage, but they don't want you to know

545
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:15.559
the Vault seven. What Wiki Leaks
published at first was the manual of how

546
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.159
you could use it. Then somebody
else published the code and so then eventually

547
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.360
WikiLeaks was when ahead Him published the
codes, it was already out there.

548
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:30.239
But what it showed us with a
manual was that they had tools to break

549
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:35.519
in to anyone anywhere and make it
look the c I can make it look

550
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.320
like they're Russians or Chinese or North
Koreans or anyone, anyone friend or foe.

551
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.719
They could hack and disguise it.
And they didn't really want you to

552
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:49.800
know that because they're saying, if
there's a cyber hack, a cyber attack

553
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:55.519
against our infrastructure, then that's grounds
for war, kinetic war, shooting war,

554
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.159
and how do we determine that?
Well, what Vault seven showed was

555
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.400
that you can never be sure who
did it, But we always have these

556
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.239
certain pronouncements in the media, don't
we. Oh, they know right away

557
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.920
who did it, whatever happened,
they know right away. You can't trust

558
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.119
any of this stuff. Any of
it could be a false flag attack.

559
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:16.719
And so he tells you the truth
about that. So what they do They

560
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:23.519
charge him with a conspiracy to do
computer hacking. Vault seven shows that that's

561
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:28.920
what they're all about, conspiracy to
do computer hacking and to use a computer

562
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:35.400
hacking to start wars as well.
Zarah Headsha reported that The Guardian has meanwhile

563
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:39.320
commented on US authorities attempts to bully
journalists who worked with a Songe to turn

564
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:44.320
against him. At least four well
known journalists have been approached by the Metropolitan

565
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:49.920
Police on behalf of the FBI.
James Ball is ex Wikileak's colleague who's now

566
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:54.159
with the Bureau of Investigative Journalism,
David Lay, the former Guardian and Observer

567
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:59.840
journalist, Heather Brooke, a freedom
of information campaigner, and Andrew o'hagen,

568
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:06.559
who has been commissioned to ghost write
Assinge's autobiography. All of them have declined

569
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.039
to cooperate with the FBI. In
an article for Rolling Stone last year,

570
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:15.159
Ball said that he had first been
approached in twenty twenty one and subjected to

571
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:20.400
pressure, including the threat of being
prosecuted himself. O'hagen said that although he

572
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:25.599
had differences with Assnge, he would
happily go to jail rather than assist the

573
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:31.480
FBI. I would only add he
said that the attempt to punish Asinge for

574
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:37.159
exposing the truth is an attack on
journalism itself. I noticed that none of

575
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:43.440
those mainstream collaborators who published his material. The New York Times published his stuff,

576
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:49.320
published some of the same stuff that
Wiki leaks had The Guardian Despiegel.

577
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:54.440
None of them are being pursued,
which demonstrates a generational bias against Internet based

578
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:58.079
journalism is at the heart of this
case, and of course it is at

579
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.960
the heart of that UK legislation and
what they want to do in the United

580
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:07.320
States as well. All of the
five IC countries US, UK, Canada,

581
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.400
Australia and New Zealand, they will
all be doing this type of thing.

582
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.920
So you know, people who understand
and of course the people who are

583
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:22.039
going to stand on principle are going
to be the people going to change things,

584
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:28.840
not these line grifting politicians who are
controlled by the CIA and acting in

585
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:34.199
their unperceived self interest. President,
do you still love WikiLeaks? I know

586
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:39.039
nothing about wiki leaks. It's not
my thing. Wow, wiki leaks.

587
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:45.639
I love wiki leaks. WikiLeaks,
the WikiLeaks documents show the Hillary Clinton documents

588
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:52.679
released by WikiLeaks. Today, WikiLeaks
release new emails, secret speeches released by

589
00:49:52.719 --> 00:50:01.199
wiki links the WikiLeaks revelations through WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks wiki leaks. Of course,

590
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:06.280
he didn't know that there was a
thing called WikiLeaks, right, Do you

591
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:10.440
still love WikiLeaks. I know nothing
about wiki leaks. It's not my thing.

592
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:17.119
I know nothink. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what Trump is.

593
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:23.159
It's a corporal Schultz or the CIA. He doesn't wear the uniform of the

594
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:29.920
CIA like Shultz wore the uniform of
the Nazis. But he works for the

595
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:35.440
CIA, and he works for himself
and capable of actually except out of his

596
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:40.880
own self interest. Ed Snowden said, the outrageous part of the UK ye,

597
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.760
the UK's years long trial to condemn
Juliana Sane to die in an American

598
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:52.599
dungeon is that the victim of his
crime, quote unquote crime, which is

599
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:58.960
journalism, is a state rather than
a person, the definition of a political

600
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:07.000
offense which the US and UK extradition
treaty explicitly forbids. His crime is against

601
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:13.280
the state against America. And they
have an extradition treaty between the UK and

602
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:20.559
US which expressly forbids the extradition of
somebody for a political crime. And he

603
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:25.320
says to every political leader and journalist
making and writing speeches, you can't save

604
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:32.960
Navalney. You can still save Assange
if you were silent here when and where

605
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.000
you can actually influence the outcome.
You were never standing up for principles,

606
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:45.199
You were just hoping for applause and
of course for money. So we will

607
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.800
have more to say about this coming
up in the third hour. I want

608
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:54.079
to get into something some of the
politics that are happening here, because there's

609
00:51:54.079 --> 00:52:00.800
some very interesting things that transcend at
the center of what is happening to Trump.

610
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And again we look at these things
that are happening to Trump, and

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what is happening in New York is
wrong. There was no victim, but

612
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.840
guess what, they have a law
in New York that doesn't require there to

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be a victim. So this is
far beyond judicial prejudice, is far beyond

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00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:24.320
law fair people who are out of
control in the court system. The legislature

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there put that line. And then
when we look in Georgia, we got

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Fanny there, and take a look
at this woman who focuses and is known

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for doing racketeering and corruption. She's
involved in a little bit of that herself.

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As a matter of factured apartment is
stealing money left and right from people

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with civil asset forfeiture laws. And
yet what does she have at home?

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She brags about how she's got the
stash of cash and she's paying off her

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her little boyfriend and stacks of cash. See, these are the types that

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00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:06.760
nobody wants to talk about civil asset
forfeiture for you and I. Nobody wants

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00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:07.920
to talk about swat team rates.
They want to talk about, Oh,

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00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.000
look, they did a video raid
of mar A Lago, but they don't

625
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.239
care about the swat team rates.
They're done against us, and some of

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00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.360
the people are saying, well,
look at what they did to Trump.

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That means it's going to be difficult
to do business in New York, WA.

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We should have paid attention to what
was happening in your state instead of

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being focused on something that you have
no control over. Forget about Washington,

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especially the presidency. You don't have
any control over who is running the CIA,

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and it's a CIA that is running
our governments. So we'll be right

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00:53:44.440 --> 00:54:40.840
back. If you're listening to the
David Night Show. Interested in a curated

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All right, Uh, get into
uh another bit of news here. I

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just want to do a little bit
of housekeeping and think the people who keep

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this program going be very ungrateful for
me to know say thank you to those

637
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:06.599
of you who kindly donate and send
your support. And I'm way behind in

638
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:10.960
the list of people who have donated
on zel, especially since we had somebody

639
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.719
asked yesterday a question, can I
tip you on Zeale? And I said,

640
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:17.519
yeah, you can tip us on
zal and a good place to tip

641
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:23.320
because there's no fees or commissions there
if your bank has that connection. And

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00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:32.039
we got ten people who tipped us
yesterday and it was amazing and very generous.

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And so I've got a list of
people, including some of the people

644
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the last week of February that I've
not read their names on zel. It

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is so many that I don't want
to do a long segment of just reading

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names. I'll get back to them
and then we've got a list of people

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who send us support by mail.
But let me just read the people who

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and give a thank you to the
people who contributed just yesterday. For example,

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Natalie L. Mary M. Mitchell
E, Noel R. Jeffrey C,

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Chris T. Stacey, A.
Majid Z, Kimberly M. Ramon

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g. All of them contributed yesterday
and I really do appreciate that one of

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our regular contributors who's been around for
a very long time. Gretchen See was

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sent a send us an email and
I said, they were like, we've

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done one little thing with substack,
and we want to do a lot more

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with substack, but we're now posting. We finally get the show up.

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00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.679
It takes a while to do the
outline, but we post the outline as

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00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:46.079
well as a link to the show
on substack and they liked having that.

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They're good place to find it.
We also give that to people who are

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on subscribe Star and they get a
link on subscribe Star to a version of

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the podcast, the audio podcast that
doesn't have any commercials in it. If

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00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.000
they're going to support us there,
that is more than we would get from

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00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.679
anybody watching all the commercials, more
than they would pay us, far more

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even if they get in at the
five dollars level. So we really appreciate

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that, and we send them that
link for free. And then I wanted

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00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:20.599
to on subscribe Sorr. I got
a tip from Mark g. He said,

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thank you for your work. He
says, if you read this,

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00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:30.760
say hi to Tie. Hi.
Tie. He's another show supporter whom I

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00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.679
became friends with through this show who
lives on the other side of the state

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via people's rights. God bless you
and your family, and like tie,

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you can read my full name as
long as the amount is not read,

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and not for credit, but just
to reject anonymity, he says. Besides,

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they have my number by now.
I'm not going to read your last

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name. Make them work for it
if they want to get your information.

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I just do that unless somebody well
he did ask me to read his last

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name, but I'm not going to. Well, okay, Mark, go

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sign. So there we go,
read your last name, so you're on

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00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:07.000
the record there. Good for you
for standing up. I don't try to

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run from these people. Ker Karen
told me a long time ago. She

679
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.719
said, you might as well do
a show because you've written so much stuff

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00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.480
out there anyway, that got your
numbers. So it's like, yeah,

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I might as well go public with
all this stuff. It is good to

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stand up to these people, isn't
it right? That's what all the mass

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stuff was about. Don't you get
a good feeling when you refuse to comply

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00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.960
with this stuff, when you refuse
to self censor yourself. Isn't that a

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00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:37.559
good feeling? Makes me feel good? I hate Yeah. That's one of

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the reasons I heard so quickly everywhere
is because I'm not gonna when I talk

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00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:43.800
about the vaccine, I'm going to
talk about the vaccine. I'm not going

688
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.440
to say, you know, the
thing, that thing that's going around.

689
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.000
I see people do that. I
understand why they're doing it, but you

690
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:55.079
know, I'm it bothers me to
see people's self censor really does bother me

691
00:58:55.119 --> 00:59:02.239
to see that. So let's see
where was I I want to There's something

692
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.760
I wanted to talk about. I
can't quite remember what it was here.

693
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:08.920
Let's talk a little about Okay,
let's do this. Let's talk about what

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is going on at Maga Lago,
which I think is going to be the

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00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.960
new name for mar A Lago.
Just call it Maga Lago. Oh,

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I had this is what I was
thinking of on Rock Finn. Thank you

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00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:25.199
very much, Michelle Obaman, thank
you for the tip. And Travis is

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00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:30.920
reminding me that I need to remind
you that I want to do and ask

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00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.880
me anything and you can send those
as emails if you want. Of course,

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00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:37.119
you know, we can have people
write us live comments. It's just

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00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.239
a little bit harder for us to
keep track of it because Travis has got

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00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:44.679
multiple places to look for the comments
and everything, so you can ask me

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00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:46.519
anything live when we do it,
but if you want to send some of

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00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:51.920
the stuff in advance, you can
send it to our email that is David

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00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:55.519
Knight's Show at ProtonMail dot com and
you can find that at our website,

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00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.800
Thedavidnightshow dot com, which will also
show you where you can catch the show

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01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.599
and both it's live and archived formats, and on the video formats, we

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01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.960
do have topics that are taken out
of the show. Since it's a three

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01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.360
hour show, we give you an
outline. Let's we also try to take

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01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:15.159
topics on and put those on the
video thing, and it'll also show you

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01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:20.320
give you links to where you can
find the audio podcast as well. Okay,

712
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.679
so let's talk about what is going
on with the Trump administration, and

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01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:32.199
before we get into what is happening
at Maga Lago, this whole thing about

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01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:38.599
the half a billion dollar judgment,
and Reason really nailed this in this article

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how a New York judge arrived at
the staggering order that he called a disgorgement.

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01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:50.119
A disgorgement isn't that interesting? You
know? When they steal your car

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01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.679
or your cash, or your home
or something like that. Don't charge you

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01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:58.159
with a crime, let alone convict
you. Right when they you know,

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01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:00.880
no charge, no conviction, but
the just take it. They call it

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01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:08.320
a civil forfeiture. So now this
judge is calling this a disgorgement. Isn't

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01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:13.360
that interesting how they keep coming up
with these novel terms. But it is

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01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:19.960
actually not just bad politicized courts.
It is also a bad law that is

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01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:24.079
the basis of this, that allows
him to do this. And so it's

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01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:27.400
going to be difficult. Actually,
I think as I looked at this,

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01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:32.280
it's going to be difficult for Trump
to appeal this. But as Ulysses Grant

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01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:39.280
once said and again before our current
presidents, he was always considered by historians

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01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:47.519
to have the most corrupt administration of
any president before recent times. Ulysses Grant,

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01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:53.079
also known as a US grant,
he kept the money flowing, didn't

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01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:58.280
He just like a regular US grant
to all kinds of people, all kinds

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01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.119
of corruption. But one of the
things that he said that really stuck with

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01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:06.360
me. He said, the way
you get rid of a bad law is

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01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:10.760
to rigorously enforce it, and that
is always sometimes that that may happen to

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01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.280
this. This is a bad law
being rigorously enforced by this judge and this

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Attorney General, Letitia James. This
law does not require proof that anyone was

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01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.519
injured. You know, this is
one of the things everybody's looking like,

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what is going on? How in
the world could this be fraud? The

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01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:30.960
banks were paid off. The banks
said they did their own due diligence.

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Trump had a disclaimer there that you
know, hey, you know, do

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01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:37.440
your own due diligence. And they
did, and they made the look they

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01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:46.360
moved down his you know, lowered
his projected net worth. The said,

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01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.800
yeah, we'll make the loan anyway. Yeah, he's inflating this stuff.

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But and Travis is telling me,
remind people like the stream, please like

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01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:00.639
the stream about that. Travis that
good? Okay, Sakes said, yes,

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01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:04.360
please like the stream. That really
does help us. It does help

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01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:10.119
us to get the information out and
which they don't want people to see whether

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01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:13.840
or not I'm right or wrong.
I will tell you what I honestly think.

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01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.760
So please like the stream. And
on rumble a woots thank you very

748
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.599
much for the tip. So Trump
is a treacherous coward who belongs in d

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01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:27.400
C in hell thereafter. Thanks for
offering him no quarter. I agree,

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I agree, and i' and I
say, you know, even though this

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01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:37.599
is I said this about Dennis Hastert, the pedophile who was groomed for Congress

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01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.719
and then put in as Speaker of
the House. Long as serving and GOP.

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01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:46.320
He went on many times as other
GOP people were outed as sexual pedophile

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01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:51.920
predators, and he went on with
rush. So I know this is all

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01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:53.920
politics. All the rest is no, it was real. But they didn't

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01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:57.639
put him in jail for the pedophilia. They put him in jail for something

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01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:01.840
that was not a crime, making
his own money out of the bank and

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01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.599
measure amounts they call that structuring,
so that there would not be a report.

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01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:09.880
As long as he kept it under
a certain amount, there would not

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01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:12.440
be any scrutiny of that. So
he did that. They sent him to

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01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:17.239
jail for that. And so Trump, who poisoned, who sent this shot

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01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:23.719
around the world poisoning and killing people, his lockdown, all the rest of

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01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.800
the things that he did, the
medical death protocol that he paid the hospitals

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to enforce. Nobody's coming after him
for that. Why well, because all

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01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.239
the GOP were involved in it.
All the Democrats are involved in it.

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01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:38.039
Biden continued, these policies, they're
not going to come after each other over

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01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.440
that, so they're going to come
after him over a non crime. But

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01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.079
it is important for us to look
at this because these types of things are

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01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:47.159
going to hit everybody. Jonathan Turley
was right. He says, this is

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something that's hanging over the head of
anybody that does business in the state of

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01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:56.360
New York. Now, this bad
law. Now, of course we have

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01:04:56.440 --> 01:05:01.480
selective enforcement. I will only use
it against their political enemies, you see.

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01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:06.840
But the law itself is a real
problem. When the interest that in

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01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:12.800
Goron also approved is considered, the
total penalties are going to rise two four

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01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.280
hundred and fifty million dollars on its
face, a penalty of nearly half a

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01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:21.840
billion dollars, says reason. It's
hard to fathom given that no lender or

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01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:26.880
ensure claimed that it suffered a financial
loss as a result of the transactions at

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the center of the case brought by
your Contentery General Letitia James. But the

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01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:40.960
law under which she sued Trump and
his co defendants does not require any such

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01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:46.800
loss. The money demanded by the
judge's ninety two page decision is styled not

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01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:56.679
as damages but as quote disgorgement,
disgorgement like they're going to make Trump vomit

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01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:03.039
this up, and ill gotten of
ill gotten gains, disgorgement of ill gotten

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01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:09.840
gains. It is aimed not at
compensating people who are allegedly harmed by his

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01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:16.039
misrepresentations, but at deterring dishonesty that
threatens the financial marketplace. Because we all

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01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:25.599
know that New York City is a
pinnacle of honesty and integrity, and we

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01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:29.119
all know the same as true of
Wall Street. We wouldn't want to damage

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01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:35.679
their reputations, would we by inflating
the value of assets. Proving common law

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01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:41.599
fraud, wrote the judge in Goron
requires and I'm not even sure if I

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01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:44.480
you. I've read so much about
this guy who says I know him by

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01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.239
I know his name, I know
his face. I've never I don't listen

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01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:51.960
to any news, so I don't
pronounce his name. I hope I've got

792
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:55.920
it right. So if I got
it wrong, you can write me and

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01:06:55.960 --> 01:07:03.840
tell me the right way to say. It requires establishing that the defendant made

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01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:10.400
a quote material statement unquote that he
knew to be false, and that the

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01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:15.679
plantiff justifiably relied on that statement,
and that he suffered loss as a result.

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That would be common law fraud.
And so everybody's looking at this and

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01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:21.360
they say, wait a minute,
if you lie, somebody relies on that

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01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:25.599
and they have a damage, that's
clear. None of that really, you

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01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:29.840
know, those last two things didn't
happen here. Even if he made a

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01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:36.719
material misstatement, nobody was damaged by
doing that. However, by contrast,

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01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:42.599
this law, section sixty three to
twelve of New York's Executive While, by

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01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:48.559
contrast, authorizes the Attorney General to
sue any person who engages and repeated fraudulent

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01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:56.559
or illegal acts or otherwise demonstrates persistent
fraud or illegality and the carrying on or

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01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:01.639
conducting of the transaction of business.
And he writes in his ninety two page

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01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:10.440
decision in Goern says, the statute
casts a wide net. It defines fraud

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01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:16.119
to be any device, scheme,
or artifice to defraud, and any deception,

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01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:24.840
misrepresentation, concealment, suppression, false
pretense, false promise, or unconscionable

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01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:31.920
contractual provisions. See, this is
a problem a law that is that broad,

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01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.760
just like a law that is sufficiently
complex is like not having any law

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01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:39.920
at all, and it can be
used by people like as Judge and like

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01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:45.479
Letitia James to come after their political
enemies, which is what has happened.

812
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.479
There's a lesson to be learned here. Again, going back to that this

813
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:51.800
is a state problem. As I
said over and over again, the state

814
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:56.479
can be worse than the federal government, as it is in New York City,

815
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.840
right, New York is worse than
the federal laws. Yeah, they

816
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:05.640
have all that plus a lot more, just like this, and if you

817
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:10.159
don't pay attention to what's going on
at the state and local level, it

818
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:14.239
can be actually worse than the federal
government. If you do pay attention,

819
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.239
it's a possibility that it could be
better. We saw this happening over and

820
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:23.960
over again in twenty twenty with people
who interposed over these Trump incentives to lock

821
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:29.159
people down, people who nullified this
stuff, people who refuse to be bribed

822
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:33.960
by Trump to institute medical martial law. So better pay attention to the state

823
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:40.079
level. That's the point of me
talking about this. Even Trump would have

824
01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:45.119
been better served to pay attention to
state and local stuff instead of getting involved

825
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:51.399
in national politics. Timely and total
repayment of loans does not extinguish the harm

826
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:58.079
that these false statements inflict on the
marketplace. As that judge in Gharan,

827
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:00.720
that's the way he pronounce his name, he says, it's all the more

828
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:06.680
reason that we have to strive for
honesty and transparency. And it is undisputed

829
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:13.479
that defendants have made all of the
required payments on time. But the next

830
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:16.199
group of lenders to receive bogus statements
might not be so lucky. So this

831
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:23.880
is like a pre crime thing,
like a pre crime thing. So just

832
01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:27.960
just think about that. You know, yeah, they all got paid,

833
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:31.039
but you know that might not happen
in the future. And we don't want

834
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:39.880
somebody who is out there, you
know, inflating his assets. We don't

835
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:45.520
want that to go on. It's
always you know, all New York businesses

836
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:50.199
now threatened by this Trump precedent.
Well, he is a precedent, and

837
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:55.399
so many times he is still precedent, isn't he. He's still establishing these

838
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:59.600
presidents. This is what Jonathan Turley
says, But it's not really Yes,

839
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.399
it is a precedent in the sense
that they've now enforced it against somebody that

840
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:06.560
have now enforced it selectively against the
political enemy. But it was always a

841
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:13.359
bad law and nobody noticed it.
And so what he's doing is he's enforcing,

842
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:16.079
rigorously enforcing that bad law. So
the question is, are they going

843
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.960
to apply the US grant standard to
it? Are they going to now get

844
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:26.920
rid of this rigorously enforced bad law. Jonathan Turley said many businesses are likely

845
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:32.399
wondering, but for the grace of
God go I. Undervaluating or valuing property

846
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:36.439
is a common practice, particularly in
real estate. That is why representations like

847
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:42.720
the one made by the Trump Corporation
come with a warning that estimates are their

848
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:47.960
own and that the banks need to
make their own assessments. He said,

849
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:55.520
the line between doing business and a
public execution appears to be the dubious discretion

850
01:11:55.840 --> 01:12:01.279
of Letitia James. We've seen this
before as well. Interestingly, you go

851
01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:16.840
back to the pandemic and Letitia James
came against Alex Jones and against Who's Baker

852
01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:23.199
James Jim Baker the tell of evangelists. Who's out of jail, But you

853
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:26.760
know he's doing other things now.
Anyway, both of them had silver.

854
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.800
Now, look, I'm not aware
of any representations that either of them made

855
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:38.399
that silver was going to cure the
imaginary pandemic virus. But hey, if

856
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.920
you got an imaginary pandemic, can
I have an imaginary cure? I mean,

857
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:47.600
what's wrong with that? It's kind
of like the Wag the Dog scenario

858
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:51.520
where they make up this guy and
now we're going to bring him home,

859
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:55.119
and then they make up another story
to say, oh no, he is

860
01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:58.119
his plane crashed on the way home. You know, we gotta put this

861
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.079
together for old shoe. Well,
the bottom line is that silver is good

862
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:08.520
in terms of killing you know,
pathogens and things like that has been demonstrated.

863
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:13.560
They use it to this day for
burn victims. You know, they

864
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:16.279
have a sav that they put on
people with burn victims keep them from getting

865
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:19.520
infected in that type of thing.
But she just said, well, if

866
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:24.399
you talk about silver, I'm going
to shut this hand. So Alex just

867
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:29.880
pulled all this silver product, even
the toothpaste, which again, if you

868
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.560
get silver in your toothpaste, that's
going to get rid of you know,

869
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.720
bacteria and nasty things in your mouth. Sad to see that go, but

870
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:42.840
that was the Tisha James. She
is arbitrary, capricious, and ruthless in

871
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:46.159
what she does. Very political,
as well. And so then when we

872
01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:54.359
look at Trump and the an abortion
I find this to be interesting because you

873
01:13:54.479 --> 01:14:01.439
had people pro life people and his
evangelical congress gation that follows him around saying

874
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:08.720
that Trump wants to have a sixteen
week national ban on abortions. And I've

875
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:11.960
said before that I think, first
of all, that's unconstitutional, and I

876
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.520
think from a pragmatic standpoint, it's
unconstitutional for the same reason that Roe v.

877
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:21.560
Wade is unconstitutional. Always said that
Dobbs, the Court agreed with what

878
01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:25.159
I had been saying for many years. I'm sure that they didn't know what

879
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:30.359
I was saying it, but I
always said the Tenth Amendment says that there

880
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:34.560
is no authority for the federal government
of any branch to decide when life begins.

881
01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:39.800
That murder, which is what we're
talking about here, is something that

882
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:44.760
belongs to the states to regulate.
And I've also said from a pragmatic standpoint

883
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:48.000
that if you come up with some
national line, some national sixteen weeks or

884
01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:51.680
whatever it is, that is well
beyond what it is already in many pro

885
01:14:51.760 --> 01:15:00.000
life states. And what will happen
is the states where they push abortion California,

886
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:02.720
New York, people like that,
they are going to ignore this law,

887
01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.720
just like they ignore now marijuana prohibition. Marijuana is still a Schedule one

888
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:12.399
drug in the War on Drugs,
but they ignore it because there's no constitutional

889
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:17.239
authority for Congress to outlaw that unless
they have a constitutional amendment like they did

890
01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:21.680
with alcohol. And so there is
no authority for the for Congress, for

891
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:27.479
Republicans or anybody else to outlaw abortion
or to enable it to you know,

892
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:31.079
to stop people from enforcing laws against
abortion, which is what Roe v.

893
01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:36.840
Wade did. But this is something
that's being put out by the Trump campaign.

894
01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:43.600
I'll just say this that as the
Democrat states will ignore a lower limit,

895
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:46.439
you better believe that when the Democrats
get power and they raise that limit

896
01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:53.520
or get away with it altogether,
that the Republican states will follow suit and

897
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:55.920
they'll say, well, that's the
supreme law Bland and we have to obey

898
01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:00.159
it, even though it isn't.
So this was kind of interesting because this

899
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:02.199
is the way the Trump campaign works. You've got somebody inside the campaign or

900
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:08.760
people are allied with it, and
they put campaign promises out there that are

901
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:12.840
not coming from the candidate. You
know, it's one thing when you know

902
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.560
Trump promises to fix the border,
and he doesn't do it right. But

903
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:23.319
now they've got surrogates who out there
making his campaign promises for him, and

904
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:28.640
so as this was happening, it
gives him an opportunity to pull back from

905
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.640
it. So he can, you
know, other people can say, oh,

906
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:31.520
no, he really is going to
do this. It's ford chs,

907
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:34.479
you know, just like alex is
telling everybody it's not a bad vaccine.

908
01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:40.359
It's really just sugar water. He's
got his surrogates out there lying to you

909
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:45.920
so about what he's going to do, and then he can go out and

910
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:49.680
say, now, since he's got
surrogates making these claims, he can tell

911
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:53.600
the media, no, that's not
me, that's not my position. Major

912
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:59.680
pro life organizations have offered differing reactions
to a recent report that Trump privately expressed

913
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:04.640
for a sixteen week national abortion ban. According to a Friday report from The

914
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:10.119
New York Times, two unnamed sources
with ties to the Republican front runner alleged

915
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:15.960
that the idea of a sixteen week
abortion ban with exceptions for rape, incest,

916
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:18.560
or the life of the mother.
The article states that Trump said in

917
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:24.279
a private conversation that he likes sixteen
weeks as a cutoff, because it's an

918
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:30.680
even four months. That sounds like
something he would say. So this is

919
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:34.880
how they work again the Washington Post. Instead, according to Trump's team,

920
01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:40.399
Trump has not made a decision about
whether he would support a national ban,

921
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:44.359
and he's also stated that he would
not be tied down to a specific number

922
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:45.880
of weeks. There you go,
see he can You know, these people

923
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:49.600
put out leaks that he's really going
to do this, and he denies a

924
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:53.279
publica and they say he's just playing
forty chess. He's just got to get

925
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:58.279
elected. He's got to say that
as president. Trump has stated he would

926
01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:00.560
sit down with both sides and negotiate
deal that everybody will be happy with.

927
01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:04.319
That his spokesperson, you know,
like the video I've shown you many times

928
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:13.720
of him setting down with the Democrats. He's got Chuck Schumer there and Diane

929
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:15.479
Feinstein. We're going to do something
everybody's happy with. Can you do that?

930
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:17.119
Yeah, we can do that.
We can run this thing through,

931
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:24.520
and he does it by executive order
gun control. He blamed the Republican Party's

932
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:29.119
position on abortion for his losses during
the twenty twenty two midterm elections. It

933
01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:32.279
wasn't him. It was the babies
that they saved. That's why people that

934
01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:39.600
want to vote for Republicans. It
was this odious albatross tied around the neck

935
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:44.039
of the party called Donald Trump.
No, it was the innocent babies' lives

936
01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:48.760
that were saved. That's why you
didn't win your election, this good Christian

937
01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:56.359
man. He also criticized DeSantis for
signing a law banning abortions after the baby's

938
01:18:56.359 --> 01:19:00.880
heartbeat becomes detectable, calling it too
harsh. So who are you going to

939
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:06.960
believe? Well, Wine Press had
an interesting story about the Maga prophets.

940
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:15.560
They're getting weirder and weirder. False
prophet claims Trump possesses the Arc of the

941
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:21.199
Covenant in mar A Lago. Yeah, that's it. We all know that's

942
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:25.800
where it got sent. Right,
They are walking out of mar A Lago

943
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:29.640
looking back as where it was maybe
and this actually they must be taking it

944
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:38.119
in and storing it with all the
documents. That's what's happened to this.

945
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:43.399
Yeah, the idolatry for Trump,
and now it's all about the fact that

946
01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:46.640
he's got a replica of the Arc
of the Covenant. There at what I

947
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:54.439
think we should start calling Maga Lago, the Temple of Maga, the Temple

948
01:19:54.479 --> 01:20:00.399
of Gloom. I guess we could
say the Raiders of the Lost Document as

949
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.880
well as the Arc. Wine Press
says, as I said, the idolatry

950
01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:06.680
we see for Trump is just wild, and it fits the bill for the

951
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:12.159
cult of personality. And it's been
covered here Wine Press before. The blasphemies,

952
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:15.079
either attributed to Trump or the ones
that Trump himself makes are simply gross

953
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:20.359
reprehensible, his latest being endorsing an
AI generated post that refers to Trump as

954
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:27.560
quote the shepherd of mankind who will
neither leave nor forsake them a title of

955
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:32.079
our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I mean, having to type that

956
01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:38.760
out is so putrid it makes me
want to hurl a form of disgorgement.

957
01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:44.680
I guess we could say the New
York good Judge laying aside all the things

958
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:48.399
that belied Trump of being this anti
establishment outsider who was fighting globalist and draining

959
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:51.079
the swamp, you know, his
warm angering the fact that he did what

960
01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:54.520
the swamp. He left the swamp
the way that it was. He didn't

961
01:20:54.560 --> 01:21:00.560
change anything. He enacted the globalist
COVID war against all of us. The

962
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:06.680
economic sanctions, trillions of dollars in
debt, his stimulus checks that were really

963
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:11.600
an early introduction of universal basic income, and all the corruption that was accompanying

964
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:15.880
all that she said. Today,
I was made aware of this false prophet

965
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:21.119
on a podcast that came out claiming
that Trump possesses the arc of the Covenant

966
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:30.199
in Maga Lago. Yeah. It
was presented by Pete Santilly. Pete Sentilly

967
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:32.960
and I we had go back to
the Bundy Ranch standoff. That guy as

968
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:36.800
something else anyway, And it was
put on at Info Wars. Here's somebody

969
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:42.520
who absolutely hated Info Wars. He
would show up and bullhorn Info Wars are

970
01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:45.439
in live broadcast and anything. But
now he and Alex have kissed him made

971
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:49.520
up. Ain't gonna happen with me. I guarantee you it ain't gonna happen

972
01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:54.720
to me. There's no way.
I don't think Alex wants to kiss and

973
01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:59.680
makeup. I guarantee you that I'm
not going to. But here's a Pete's

974
01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:05.399
intel this broadcast and he has it
with Don Dona Clement. Petrushka was a

975
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:11.399
person who's talking there. Look at
that thumbnail. This is obviously something that

976
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:17.439
is not a real shot. This
is Donald Trump bending over with hands together

977
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:21.720
as if he were praying in front
of the arc of the Covenant. That's

978
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:27.000
why he's got it there, Manerolgo. I think he just likes things that

979
01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:31.119
are gold. I think I think
he just can't get enough gold. And

980
01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:36.479
so this is what Pete sent Tilly
was selling people absolutely insane and he got

981
01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:44.039
ravaged by the comments that were there. But anyway, Winepress says, after

982
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:47.520
I picked myself off of the floor
from laughter, I watched a few minutes

983
01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:51.960
just to humor them, and Pete
Sentilly showed a picture of this lady.

984
01:22:53.760 --> 01:23:01.800
She's referring to Looney Lumer, Laura
Lumer. And is that that there's Laura

985
01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:08.439
Lumer standing next to the Trump arc
of the Covenant? That is there,

986
01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:15.880
Laura Lumer, Looney Lumer standing next
to a supposed replica. And Donnie Clement

987
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:20.600
Petrushka, the woman that you saw
in that thumbnail, claim that she saw

988
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:27.239
it also at mar A Lago.
I'm sorry, Maga Lago. Pete Senttill

989
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:30.640
he claims that Israel gave President Trump
a replica of the real thing, which

990
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:34.239
they don't have because you know,
it's in the government warehouse that we saw

991
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:44.800
there. Patrushka says that her father
prophesied many times of a parallel blessing that

992
01:23:44.840 --> 01:23:51.800
God would send on both America and
Israel. Yes, God put Donald Trump

993
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:56.399
where he is. The question is
is Donald Trump a blessing or a curse?

994
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.760
And then of course this was also
put on display at mar A Lago,

995
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:04.760
and you had James O'Keefe who now
refers to himself and his media organization

996
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:12.560
as o MG. So he got
his h Yeah, you're supposed to be

997
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:16.960
astonished, you know, the OMG
thing of everything he's got out of there,

998
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:21.479
so is his blasphemy, and him
standing there a perfect replica of the

999
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:28.319
Arc of the Covenant. By the
way he spells that wrong. He's got

1000
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:32.880
it arc instead of ark. That's
an that's a box, a box an

1001
01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:42.079
arc ark twenty seven hundred hours of
labor and six pounds of gold. Uh

1002
01:24:42.399 --> 01:24:46.359
so. And then you have other
people who posted up the fact that this

1003
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:49.479
is the most valuable and sought after
item. You know, even the Nazis

1004
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:54.479
wanted it. According to Steven Spielberg, I'm going to give him special special

1005
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:58.079
powers. Except sometimes these people.
If you go back and read the Bible,

1006
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:01.159
sometimes the people who kidnap this,
certain things happen. I wonder if

1007
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:08.680
we're going to find a gold statue
of Donald Trump on its face, with

1008
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:12.600
its head and hands broken off,
like the Philistines did when they picked the

1009
01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:18.840
Arc of the Covenant. A close
second would be a list of the subjects

1010
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:25.479
and truth that authoritary minded are AI
sponsors have instructed their chatties to bear false

1011
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:29.000
witness about, in other words,
leakers and whistleblowers. That list is the

1012
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:31.880
unholy grail. The one who gets
it, who gets a hold of this

1013
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:36.199
arc and who spreads it, will
rip down the veil that was already ripped

1014
01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:45.000
and accelerate the awakening above and beyond
anything else imaginable. Well, back to

1015
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:48.720
wine Press, she says, apparently
this is purportedly created by an avid supporter

1016
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:56.039
of Trump, displayed at Maga Lago
during a dinner party, and that's evidently

1017
01:25:56.119 --> 01:26:03.159
where O'Keefe and Looney Lumer took their
pictures. If true, says wine Press,

1018
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:08.560
it proves once again the absolute blasphemy
of Trump is sacrilege, and his

1019
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:14.359
diehard proselytes are willing to commit for
him. So who is this? Miss

1020
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:19.119
Petrushka interviewed by Pete Sintilly. She
says she's part of a ministry called House

1021
01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:26.399
of Destiny, founded by her dad, Kim Clement. The so called church

1022
01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:30.800
wants to encourage you to achieve your
destiny quote unquote, according to their website.

1023
01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:34.560
Furthermore, on their statement of faith, the church believes, quote we

1024
01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:39.640
do not bring discrimination or judgment,
but we inspire hope, bringing restoration to

1025
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:42.760
life and often healing from the past. So, in other words, they're

1026
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:46.119
just like the prosperity Gospel people with
he gets us that Super Bowl ad.

1027
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.840
You know, forget about sin,
forget about removing the penalty of sin or

1028
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.960
the power of sin. No,
no, no, You're fine just the

1029
01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:58.800
way you are. I wonder who
would be telling you that. That's not

1030
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.800
God's message. That's It's message.
We want to activate your faith so you

1031
01:27:01.880 --> 01:27:05.359
can fulfill God's great destiny in your
life. Your destiny is to leave a

1032
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:11.319
legacy, and legacy is influence.
Okay, So what you're after there for

1033
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:15.319
is influence? Is that? Well, we're all seeking in life. You

1034
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:18.640
know, Hillary Clinton is looking for
the politics for meaning. I guess they're

1035
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:24.520
very much like Hillary Clinton, aren't
they. Wine Press again says so Basically,

1036
01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:27.800
it's a spin on the American gospel
of health, wealth and prosperity.

1037
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:31.720
Self help name it and claim it
a bunch of new age garbage, she

1038
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:35.039
said. When this information was sent
to my inbox today, somebody graciously linked

1039
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:41.399
the ridiculous and heretical beliefs of all
these people and the myriad of false prophecies

1040
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:46.199
by this guy Clement Kim, for
example, in twenty fifteen, one year

1041
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:50.960
before his death. In twenty sixteen, he tweeted that people do not need

1042
01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:56.520
to be born again. Okay,
there it is right there. Stick a

1043
01:27:56.520 --> 01:28:00.880
screenshot of that. So Jesus said
you need to be born again, but

1044
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:08.720
not this guy. Not this guy. He disagrees with that. And then

1045
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:14.239
there was a screenshot that was sent
to her screenshot taken from a YouTube video

1046
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:18.960
promoting Kim Clement's alleged prophecy of Trump, even though Trump is never mentioned in

1047
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:24.000
the prophecy. But they put this
together after the fact. This is what

1048
01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:27.479
the people at QAnon do. And
you see there's Trump and kind of a

1049
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:31.199
quasi military uniform. You know,
they've shown him dressed up like Andrew Jackson

1050
01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:35.479
and other things like that. She
says, did you know that Kim Clement

1051
01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:40.840
prophesied Obama would be baptized in the
Holy Spirit the summer of twenty ten,

1052
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:45.079
that he would change all his presidential
policies to richly blessed Americans. Did you

1053
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:50.800
know that he promised that Clement prophesied
that rap artist Eminem, Arthur Stephen King,

1054
01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:56.600
media tycoon Rupert Murdoch would all become
Christian evangelists, not just Christians,

1055
01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.399
but evangelists by the end of two
thousand and six. Did you know that

1056
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:04.640
he prophesied two thousand and seven Bill
Gates would do the work of evangelism by

1057
01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:10.880
giving a bunch of his money to
fund churches. Was that he asking Gates

1058
01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:14.279
for money by doing that? Did
you know that he prophesied Rudy Giuliani would

1059
01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:19.039
become President of the United States in
two thousand and eight. After his death

1060
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:24.560
in twenty sixteen, his popularity started
picking up steam. I guess he's going

1061
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:28.680
to become another Nostra Damis. He
was being hailed by more and more people

1062
01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:31.600
as a true prophet based on his
alleged twenty fourteen prediction that Trump had become

1063
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:35.640
president, which you never said.
That screenshot that just showed you there,

1064
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:44.279
It's truly amazing what these people will
do and how they will spend this around.

1065
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:48.119
And as I said, when I
looked at the Pete Sentilly thing,

1066
01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:54.399
it was like through pages of commercials
in the description, and that's all they

1067
01:29:54.439 --> 01:30:00.039
had nothing there, no transcript or
anything, just commercial commercial commercial. But

1068
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:05.680
then there were comments like this,
the Maga crowd is blinded thinking Trump is

1069
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:10.720
some sort of savior. God will
not share his glory with another. It

1070
01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:14.960
is mockery in my eyes to my
Lord and Savior. He is the only

1071
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:17.720
one who can save us. There
have been interviews where Trump says that he

1072
01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:23.840
will not ask for forgiveness because he's
done nothing wrong. Another one read the

1073
01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:29.880
Bible done, that's the female guest
of Pete Sentilli. There Russia brings gifts

1074
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.880
to the Lord and Isaiah and so
forth. Therefore, the antichrist system is

1075
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:36.960
just as Obama is the Antichrist,
and also the Muslim Mahdi. In other

1076
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:43.279
words, there's a lot of different
antichrists out there. Is Trump the Antichrist,

1077
01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:47.039
Well, he is an Antichrist,
that's for sure. Another one Alex

1078
01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:54.159
promoting Trump elan and Christ energy,
Christ energy. The only energy Alex puts

1079
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:58.800
out is from his drinking his conspiracy
bourbon, and Lin listening to Metallica for

1080
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:04.000
horsemen, Kim Clement was a false
prophet, a one new picture of the

1081
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:09.960
Ark of the Covenant would Trump would
trigger? And then General Flynn in one

1082
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:15.880
gave a word for word speech proclamation
of that occultist Elizabeth Claire prophet. And

1083
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:18.319
I've played that for you many,
many times. And so why do I

1084
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:26.079
talk about all this because you need
to understand how this is being used Politico

1085
01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:31.359
And there's all these you know,
articles on Drudge they'll pull, they'll drudge

1086
01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:38.479
this stuff up. Trump allies prepared
to infuse Christian nationalism in a second administration.

1087
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:42.359
And so they focus on some of
these people around Trump and some of

1088
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:46.039
them say they deny the label.
They say, well, this is what

1089
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.680
I believe, but they don't they
want to label people as Christian nationalists.

1090
01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:57.720
But you said, they're also using
all of this q Andon, Maga,

1091
01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:00.560
Lago, Arc of the Covenant and
all the rest of the stuff. They're

1092
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:05.359
using all of this to attack Christians. And the purpose of all of this

1093
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:10.359
and the purpose of Rob Reiner's document. Rob Rein will even come out he

1094
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:13.359
say, well, there's a lot
of Christians and evangelists who don't support Trump

1095
01:32:13.399 --> 01:32:17.079
and you know, and push back
against this stuff. But the people who

1096
01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:20.439
are actually out there that you know, that are engaged, the Christians who

1097
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.319
are engaged in the public sphere,
we need to shut them down because they're

1098
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:28.520
all like Michael Flynn or Donald Trump. That's the bottom line. They want

1099
01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:32.319
to intimidate you because they want to
make you shut up. That's what this

1100
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:38.319
is about. If you're a Christian, just stay in the closet, don't

1101
01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:42.239
talk about any of this stuff.
And we should not be We should oppose

1102
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.600
this stuff. We should talk about
Trump, we should talk about Michael Flynn

1103
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:51.720
and how he's you know, plagiarizing
these New Age false prophets and the rest

1104
01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:55.600
of this stuff. We've got to
talk about that and oppose it and say

1105
01:32:55.640 --> 01:33:01.600
that's not us, that's not us. And what they want to do is

1106
01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:04.920
they want to shut us up.
You know, when I look at this,

1107
01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:13.079
they define Christian nationalists in this Politico
article that goes very very They do

1108
01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:16.840
very long articles. They work out
you know, ten twenty thirty pages to

1109
01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:21.159
print these things out. Christian nationalists
in America believe the country was founded as

1110
01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:29.039
a Christian nation and that Christian values
should be prioritized throughout government and public life

1111
01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.960
as the country has become less religious
and more diverse. This guy they're focusing

1112
01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:38.640
on, Russell Vought, has embraced
the idea that Christians are under assault and

1113
01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:42.560
has spoken of policies that he might
pursue in response. Look, the free

1114
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:46.600
exercise of religion is under attack.
Your belief system is under attack. People

1115
01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:50.600
are getting canceled, they're getting fired, they're getting sued. Some countries,

1116
01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:55.039
of course, they get imprisoned because
of their Christian beliefs. You look at

1117
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:59.279
this woman who was a high ranking
government official in the past in Finland who

1118
01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:03.840
is now on her third prosecution because
she was made a comment on social media

1119
01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:10.680
to her church because she disagreed with
him having a pride parade. So,

1120
01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:15.359
yes, Christian persecution is speeding up, and it is part of the overall

1121
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:21.159
rejection of free speech and the free
exercise of religion. It's an overall rejection

1122
01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:26.880
of what is encapsulated in the First
Amendment. Don't you dare go protest,

1123
01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:31.439
don't you dare speak out, don't
you dare exercise your religion? And so

1124
01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:38.680
this is all about continuing the putting
people in a box. They intimidated people

1125
01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:42.159
in the middle of the twentieth century
with a couple of Supreme Court decisions saying

1126
01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:45.359
that if you work for the government, you've got to get Christianity out of

1127
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:48.399
everything. No, you're not establishing
a religion, you're exercising your faith.

1128
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:55.359
That's a difference between forcing somebody to
attend a church, forcing somebody to pay

1129
01:34:56.079 --> 01:35:00.680
for a church, and simply freely
exercising your religion, which is part and

1130
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:05.239
should be protected. And so they
intimidate to people that as people are waking

1131
01:35:05.319 --> 01:35:11.039
up to that fraud of the separation
of church and state type of thing,

1132
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.359
Oh no, no, no,
get any religion out of the you know,

1133
01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:16.479
if you're a teacher, you can't
have anything religious at work, and

1134
01:35:16.520 --> 01:35:20.800
that type of thing that's now been
thrown out by the Supreme Court. People

1135
01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:24.680
are waking up to it as well, and so now they've got to find

1136
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:30.760
some other way to intimidate people and
enter you know, Trump and his you

1137
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:35.079
know, Maga cult to help this
along. But when you look at this

1138
01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:39.079
Christian nationalist and America believe the country
was founded as a Christian nation, Well,

1139
01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:42.560
of course it was, of course, it was just read the decoration

1140
01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:45.439
of independence. If you're not completely
historically illiterate, you understand that those are

1141
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:53.039
Christian values, and Christian value should
be prioritized through government and the public life.

1142
01:35:53.079 --> 01:35:58.399
We're not talking about any particular religious
exercise here, We're just talking about

1143
01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:02.960
a worldview and understanding that you are
accountable to God. You know, And

1144
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:08.039
when we look at something this simple
definition like this, you know, I've

1145
01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:11.560
been I've had problems in the past
the churches that I went to that I

1146
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:14.720
looked at their doctrinal statement and you
know, you can put down a lot

1147
01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:17.560
of stuff there, and the devil
is in the details. You find out

1148
01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:23.039
later, Well, yeah, we
didn't address that because even maybe the elders

1149
01:36:23.039 --> 01:36:27.920
didn't agree with what was going on
with that. So when you look at

1150
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:33.640
their characterization of what Christian nationalism is, don't be concerned about it is simply

1151
01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:40.399
right now. It is a They've
designed this as a pejorative label, and

1152
01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:43.800
even Russell Voight says, well,
I don't accept that label. I don't

1153
01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:50.520
call myself a Christian nationalist, and
I don't I don't accept what you are

1154
01:36:50.560 --> 01:36:59.000
saying about this. But Politico goes
on to say that Trump is not a

1155
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:03.399
devout man of faith. Oh that's
a revelation. But Christian nationalists have been

1156
01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:09.359
among his most reliable campaign activists and
voting blocks. Trump formed a political alliance

1157
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:15.239
with evangelicals during his first run delivered
them a six to three conservative majority on

1158
01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:19.279
the Supreme Court. Is now espousing
the Christian rights long running argument that Christians

1159
01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:25.119
are so severely persecuted that it necessitates
a federal response. Well, it doesn't.

1160
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:29.479
It doesn't no matter how bad the
persecution is. We need to focus

1161
01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:33.039
on the state level. We need
to focus on interposition of state and local

1162
01:37:33.079 --> 01:37:39.039
officials, on nullification by them,
on civil resistance, forget about the federal

1163
01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:44.079
government. On the Iowa caucuses,
Trump promoted on his social media video that

1164
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:48.840
suggested his campaign as actually a divine
mission from God. America should be recognized

1165
01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:53.079
as a Christian nation where our rights
and duties are understood to come from God,

1166
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:58.560
wrote Russell Voit two years ago in
Newsweek. What's hundred percent true.

1167
01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:02.199
That's the premise of the creation of
independence. Our rights come from God,

1168
01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:10.479
and it's self evident that they do. He says, it's a commitment to

1169
01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:15.159
an institutional separation between church and state, but not to the separation of Christianity

1170
01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:18.880
from its influence on government and society. He got it exactly right, but

1171
01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:24.279
they want to label him as a
Christian nationalist. He went on to accuse

1172
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:30.479
the people using this label of Christian
nationalism of evoking the term to try to

1173
01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:35.520
scare people. That's right. The
term need not be subjected to such intense

1174
01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:42.600
scorn due to misunderstanding or slander.
It's an intimidation tactic, and that's what

1175
01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:45.439
Rob Reiner is doing. They also
go in to tie in Flynn in this

1176
01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:49.159
political article. Trump is talking about
bringing his former national security advisor, Michael

1177
01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:56.920
Flynn, a vocal proponent of Christian
nationalism. There's nothing Christian about Michael Flynn's

1178
01:38:57.079 --> 01:39:01.399
activism, and that's re awakened America. Understand that if Michael Flynn wants to

1179
01:39:01.399 --> 01:39:06.159
present himself as a Christian, he
needs to publicly repent of what he did

1180
01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:12.560
pushing transgenderism on people like that Navy
seal Chris Beck in twenty fourteen. He

1181
01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:16.000
was at the cusp of all that
he and Donald Trump were leading this country

1182
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:26.119
pushing transgenderism in the early teens,
Trump for his beauty contest and Michael Flynn

1183
01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:32.720
at the Pentagon so shut up about
them being Christians until they confront that and

1184
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:38.960
acknowledge and repent from that they're not. And so Flynn is out there talking

1185
01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:45.079
about his army of God, and
he is somebody who is anybody who follows

1186
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:48.800
him is doing a disservice to this
country and a disservice to conservatives and a

1187
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:55.880
disservice to Christians because this is a
setup, just like January the sixth was

1188
01:39:55.920 --> 01:40:01.760
a setup. So Rob Reiner has
a different version of nationalism. I think

1189
01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:08.800
we should call it meathead nationalism.
The guy who is his only acting role,

1190
01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:13.239
he was routinely despised. He was
supposed to be the smart guy who

1191
01:40:13.319 --> 01:40:16.720
is going to expose Archie Bunker,
the bigot, and yet everybody despised Rob

1192
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:21.840
Reiner, and he wasn't acting,
as you can see. Now he's made

1193
01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:26.760
some films, he said. Now
he's made a film about Christian nationalism that

1194
01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:30.720
I have mentioned in the past.
He says, there's very conservative Christian evangelicals,

1195
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:33.840
pastors, very respected people in the
Christian community that are frightened of this

1196
01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:39.159
Christian nationalist movement. So you should
be frightened to be associated with it.

1197
01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:45.600
You should get back in the clause
at Christians and shut up because Rob Reiner

1198
01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:48.000
is going to call you. He's
going to associate you with Michael Flynn and

1199
01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:54.039
Donald Trump and these QAnon retards out
there. We showed the film that this

1200
01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:57.359
movement was a foundation for January the
sixth. They were moving elements that made

1201
01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.119
January the sixth and the insurrection happen. Now weer in the house who is

1202
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:06.279
an avowed Christian nationalist. Look,
it is true that QAnon and Michael Flynn

1203
01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:13.600
and a lot of the usual suspects
that orchestrated that January the sixth trap are

1204
01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:15.359
doing the same thing again with Reawakened
America and the rest of this stuff.

1205
01:41:16.159 --> 01:41:19.520
They need to be opposed with this. And of course the key part of

1206
01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:26.439
what Rob Reiner is doing is to
play the race card white Christian nationalism.

1207
01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:31.720
So again he's gonna make everything about
race. We've got some comments on here.

1208
01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:36.600
Travis is telling me that the stream
is having some issues. Something is

1209
01:41:36.680 --> 01:41:40.720
up with our WiFi or the ISP
stream is dropping in and out. I've

1210
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done everything I can short of turning
everything off. I have no guarantee that

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01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.000
it will fix anything. If I
did turn it off, our ISP could

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01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:51.079
be having issues. Our router could
be freaking out. Obs could be glitching,

1213
01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:56.039
restream could be glitching. There's so
many different possible failure points. I

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01:41:56.119 --> 01:42:00.279
can't test it while we are live, Okay, so disclaimer we will.

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01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:06.520
We will have the full program up
later today, so there's both audio and

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01:42:06.680 --> 01:42:12.479
video on rumble A woots. Thank
you very much for the tip. Says

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Trump is a treacherous coward who belongs
in DC. Oh we had this before

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01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:23.640
and Octo spook. Besides being documented
mass murderer, liar, and UNI party

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01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:29.319
member, Trump is now a shoe
salesman and a huckster. Well, let's

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01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:33.279
that's unfair to shoe salesman. I
mean, I've known some honest shoe salesman,

1221
01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:39.600
and they are not all the shoe
salesmen are not soulless so to speak.

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01:42:39.640 --> 01:42:45.640
They're not heels either, but stealth
patriot. It's easy to know why

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01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:47.840
Trump is what he's going to do
next. Just go read the World Economic

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01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:50.359
Forum website. Yep, that's what
he did in the past. He's got

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01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:55.960
his freedom cities. We won't call
them smart cities, we won't call them

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01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:00.319
fifteen minute cities. We'll call them
freedom cities. Colton Kimberly, thank you

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01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.439
for the tip. I've noticed twin
I have to watch later after the live

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01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:08.840
show. All the likes go back
to zero after it is posted here on

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01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:14.199
Rumble. Like yesterday, I was
the sixth like, oh, well that's

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01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:16.760
interesting. We don't necessarily need to
repost the live show Rumble. We just

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01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:20.399
leave it up there. I guess
I don't know. The only thing that

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01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:25.560
I just leave the live stream up
afterwards, then upload a full version of

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01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:30.359
the show after. Oh okay,
I can put captions on it. Okay,

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01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:32.399
you can't put the captions in there
on the live show after it's up,

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No, since it doesn't quite match
up in terms of length. Oh

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okay, Okay, well, well
we'll work out something. It probably be

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01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:45.079
better to put them up and have
people have a general guy. The problem

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when I put in the time code
stuff is that they inject commercials on the

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01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:53.319
audio stream and anything, so that
shifts things. So those are kind of

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01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:56.640
approximate. Anyway, let me just
say this before I take a break.

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01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:02.960
One person said, hey, meathead, Rob Reiner, meet John Quincy Adams,

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01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:11.199
a Christian nationalist son of John Adams
and Abigail Adams. And so he

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01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:15.960
says when you look at the life
of John Quincy Adams, And as a

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01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.159
matter of fact, I went to
a junior high school that was named after

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01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:25.800
this guy, He says. Reiner's
work as a pale cinematic shadow of the

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01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:30.319
career of our sixth president. If
you want to talk about Christian nationalism,

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01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:32.880
he goes, Yeah, he's got
a he's got a career. He's directed

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01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:38.039
a few films. He said his
best film was a Few Good Men.

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01:44:38.199 --> 01:44:41.279
He said the best line out of
that, out of his best film,

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01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:46.119
was you can't handle the truth?
Can Rob Reiner handle the truth of how

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01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:53.520
we've had presidents who embraced openly embraced
there and talked about their Christian beliefs,

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01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:59.960
and how their Christian beliefs informed their
policies and their lives and their attitudes towards

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01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:03.920
things. What's the matter with that? He says. John Quincy Adams a

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01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:09.039
brilliant diplomat, a spy in chief, a master of many languages, a

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01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:13.520
friend of czars, who helped to
secure his country's Florida, the Pacific Northwest,

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01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:17.640
freedom of speech, peace with Britain, liberty to the honisted passengers,

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and ultimately a nation without slavery.
I'm wondering if Reiner would call Adams a

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Christian nationalist, he says. Reiner's
own history of Christian nationalism begins in the

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01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:33.279
nineteen fifties. He says, the
beginnings of this movement happened in nineteen fifty

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four with Brown versus the Board of
Education. See this is where he plays

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01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:45.079
the race card. Oh, the
white Christian nationalists. This comment says,

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01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:48.640
Reiner's history is ugly, meathead ugly. By the way, this is David

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Marshall's piece here said, two generations
ago, less than one percent of white

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01:45:54.760 --> 01:46:00.079
kids attended segregated academies. That's a
big swath the start of Christian nationalism quote

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01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:04.279
unquote for the whole country, which
demonstrates the racism of anyone who supports Trump

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01:46:04.319 --> 01:46:08.039
today. Is that the way they
We're going to look at this. But

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here's the real history, he says. The scary thing is that John Quincy

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Adams was a Christian nationalist. He
fulfilled a promise that he made to his

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mother, he said, Abigail Adams, he recited the Lord's Prayer before rising.

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For the rest of his life,
he read his Bible, attended church

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religiously. Unlike Trump, he appealed
to divine truth and public statements, including

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his attacks on slavery, and with
growing fervency and power as he got older,

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01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:42.600
he said, slavery is an offense
against God. And so you can

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lump him in there with these other
infamous English Christian nationalists like William Wilberforce who

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stopped the slave trade, who stopped
slavery itself in England. Because of his

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01:46:54.920 --> 01:47:00.840
Christian values. He saw his work
as a member of Parliament in terms of

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serving those Christian values. He was
going to after become a Christian, He's

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going to drop out of parliament.
And he talked to the guy who wrote

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Amazing Grace and he said no.
Newton told him, he said, stay

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01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:18.600
in. That's what God has called
you to do. And so he made

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it his life's work to stop the
slave trade, to stop that because of

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his Christian faith. John Quincy Adams
is also a dedicated historian who read and

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01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:30.800
or spoke English, Greek, Latin, French, German, Hebrew, and

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01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:38.840
Russian. He was arguably America's most
talented and non knowledgeable diplomat. He founded

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01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:42.880
the Smithsonian Institute. He said that
if the state of Georgia didn't protect Creek

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01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:46.800
Indians from encroachment, an obligation he
said that was even higher than that of

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human authority. It would force him
to act. And in eighteen thirty seven

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01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:57.239
address of Massachusetts, Atoms showed just
how dangerous a Christian nationalists he was by

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linking Christmas to Independence Day. I
won't read all of that to you.

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I'll just say this in summary,
that we have to understand that people like

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Rob Reiner is just doing propaganda.
They're ignorant of history and they're trying to

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intimidate people, and we don't need
to fall for that. We're going to

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take a quick break and when we
come back, I want to start talking

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a little bit about before our guest
joins us, I'm gonna take a quick

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break and we'll come back and we'll
talk a little bit more about the Amish.

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No I'm not turning Amish, but
they have something to tell people about

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the vaccine, about the food and
the rest of this stuff. And there's

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an essay by raw Egg Nationalists that
really hits this on the head. We

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will be right back. Whether you're
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apsradio dot com using free speech,
two free minds. It's the David Knight

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01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:24.680
Show. Well, this essay is
called the Price as from the Ray Nationalists.

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01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:28.079
They said, we pay a price
when we abandoned the ways and the

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wisdom of our ancestors. And he
uses the Amish as an example. He

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01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:40.680
said it was and this is an
article that had disappeared, so he republished

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01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:45.039
it again. It was back in
twenty twenty one, I believe we first

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published it. And at that time, Steve Kersh had gone before the Pennsylvania

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State Senate and he talked about how
the Amish were not affected by the pandemic

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01:49:58.279 --> 01:50:00.119
in spite of the fact that they
didn't wear any masks, they didn't social

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01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:04.359
distance, they didn't get the vaccine, they didn't do anything they were told

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01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:13.720
to do by President Facci and his
assistant Donald Trump. He said the Amish

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died at a rate that was ninety
times lower than the infection fatality rate of

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01:50:18.560 --> 01:50:24.800
the rest of the US during the
pandemic. Because remember a lot of people

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are being killed by the hospital protocols
that Trump was paying the hospitals to do.

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They did not lock down, masked
social distance. They didn't vaccinate.

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There are no mandates in the Amish
community to get vaccinated. They basically ignored

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every single guideline that the CDC gave
us, and ignoring those guidelines meant a

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death rate there was ninety times lower
than the rest of America. On this

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evidence, it would seem that the
Amish, and not the Swedes, and

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not the Floridians, should serve as
the control argument against to judge the success

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01:50:58.479 --> 01:51:00.560
of these public health measures. A
lot of people talked to Oh, well,

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01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:05.560
Florida followed this stuff a lot more, and even Sweden did. The

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01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:10.600
Amish did none of what we were
told, what we were forced to do,

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01:51:11.520 --> 01:51:15.000
and yet they also suffered none of
the disastrous consequences we were promised if

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01:51:15.039 --> 01:51:17.159
we didn't wear the mask cow or
inside our home for months on end and

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01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:23.479
obediately line up to be jabbed when
the time came. It turns out that

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we were the ones being pushed into
a disaster, a disaster whose consequences will

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01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:31.319
ramify for many years to come,
whether in the destruction of so many small

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01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:36.760
businesses they were called non essential by
Trump and the transfer of their hard earned

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01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:44.479
wealth the corporate leviathans like Amazon who
were essential, or in the unhappy lives

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01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:48.319
of our younger generation, or in
the myriad other painful and costly ways like

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01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:54.319
this the great poisoning as it gradually
kills many people. It's not just in

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relation to the pandemic that the Amish
present a picture of unusual health. Mister

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Kersh also noted that they suffered actually
none of the chronic diseases that are par

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for the course in modern industrial societies. Nor do they suffer from conditions like

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ADHD, autism, autoimmune conditions,
all of which have been subject to stunning

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01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:20.159
rises in the recent decades. Mister
Kirsch believes this is because the Amish are

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not vaccinated at all. They would
never release a report to the findings because

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the report would have a devastating effect
to the US government's narrative. It would

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01:52:31.359 --> 01:52:35.640
show that CDC has been harming the
public for decades. And these are more

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01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:39.279
than just inconvenient truths. They strike
at the very heart of the way that

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we organize our society and the way
that we live our lives. And so

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from this he begins to talk about
a work that was done back in nineteen

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01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:58.840
thirty nine, a book Nutrition and
Physical degeneration by a pioneering dentists named Weston

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a price of you know him.
But before I get into that and what

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he found, I just want to
say, how was it that the Amish

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were able to do all this stuff? Well, they were able to to

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01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:18.840
not do any of this because they
were not up for coercion or bribery or

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01:53:18.880 --> 01:53:28.960
blackmail. See this strikes to the
very heart of the Maga denial of Trump's

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01:53:29.039 --> 01:53:35.239
involvement. There weren't people coming around
door to door dragging people out and forcefully

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01:53:35.279 --> 01:53:42.039
injecting him. And so from that
standpoint, Democrats, Biden and fouc you

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01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:45.960
know, oh, we didn't force
anybody to do it. Well, coersion

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01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:48.439
is a kind of force, and
that's what they did. But there's also

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01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:51.159
the bribery that is involved. There's
not just the black mail. But they

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01:53:51.159 --> 01:53:55.760
were not susceptible to any of this
because you see the way that all worked,

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01:53:56.399 --> 01:54:00.000
the way the coersion and the force
and the bribery worked. They would

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01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:04.239
apply economic pressure to people. You
were going to lose your job, You're

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going to lose your position. That's
how they have control over us. And

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the Amish are not blackmailable. The
Amish haven't taken the bribe for anything.

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They have focused on keeping their community
independent. They focused on creating a vibrant,

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01:54:25.520 --> 01:54:31.359
interdependent community that is not cannot be
coerced or bribed or blackmailed from the

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01:54:31.399 --> 01:54:36.079
outside. Now, they could send
troops in and they could forcefully shoot these

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01:54:36.119 --> 01:54:42.159
people, shoot them with bullets,
shoot them with vaccines or something like that

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01:54:42.199 --> 01:54:45.319
by force. But that wasn't done
to anybody. The rest of it was

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done because we made ourselves too dependent
on what the government demanded, and people

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01:54:53.239 --> 01:55:00.520
were afraid to give up this life
of dependency on government money and government orders.

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That's the key thing. But let's
talk about what Western Price noticed back

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in the nineteen thirties. He published
this book in nineteen thirty nine. He

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01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:15.359
looked at the lifestyles and the subsequent
health of tribal groups in many different places,

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not just the Amish and Africa and
North America and Oceania and Europe.

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In the high Alpine Swiss herders inhabitants
of the Scottish Highlands. We discovered and

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01:55:27.680 --> 01:55:32.680
documented meticulously, including a beautiful series
of photographic comparisons. Is a direct refutation

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01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:38.479
of the idea that modern industrial lifestyles
and medicine are making us healthier. In

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01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:43.239
fact, he showed the opposite is
true. Born in the late nineteenth century,

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Western Price was originally from Canada,
but he set up a shop as

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a dentist across the border in Cleveland, Ohio. This is a time when

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the traditional diets of Americans in the
Midwest, based entirely in animal and plant

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01:55:55.239 --> 01:56:00.720
whole foods, were being displaced by
new industrial products, especially fine wheat and

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01:56:00.760 --> 01:56:04.720
canned products. The effects were terrible
and immediate, and Price saw among his

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patients, especially amongst the children,
growing signs of severe physical decay, crowded

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01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:15.520
teeth, abundant cavities, malformation of
the dental arch the roof of the mouth,

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weakening facial structure visible in the nose, the cheeks, and the jaw.

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What's more, of these physical deformities
were manifesting themselves in behavioral and developmental

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abnormalities that had previously been more or
less unknown. He knew something was happening

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01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:35.920
on a broader level to cause these
changes, so he guessed that it had

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to do it diet, and so
he was able to document at least a

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dozen groups that he considered to display
perfect health. By that he meant he

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didn't just mean dental health. It
meant that not only these people avoided facial

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degeneration that was happening because of dental
issues that was suffering by American children,

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but their entire bodies condition. These
people were fit, tall, had a

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01:57:02.279 --> 01:57:06.680
tremendous resistance to physical ailments of all
kinds, including chronic and infectious diseases,

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and they also generally lived into ripe
old age. He visited the Tories Straight

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Islanders, for instance, a tribe
living on an island off the north coast

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01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:18.279
of Australia. He spoke to an
Australian physician who had been sent to minister

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to them into the small population of
whites who had recently moved there too.

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The doctor said that in his thirteen
years with the islanders he had not seen

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a single case of malignancy in other
words, cancer, and they'd only seen

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01:57:30.880 --> 01:57:34.760
one that he had suspected might be
a malignancy among the entire four thousand native

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01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:41.079
population. He said he had operated
several dozen during the same period of time

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he'd operated on several dozen malignancies for
the white population that was living there.

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Price could see that one of the
key differences between the Islanders and the whites

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was their diet. The islanders continued
to eat a traditional diet based primarily around

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01:57:55.119 --> 01:58:00.800
nutrient dense animal foods and particularly the
abundant seafood the bird life the island provided.

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01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:05.079
The whites were subsisting on refined and
canned goods shipped in from the mainland.

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Wherever Price found a group that displayed
perfect health, whether that was within

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the Arctic Circle or the African savannah, he found people who were eating large

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01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:21.079
quantities of food like organ meat,
blood, fatty cuts of meat, eggs,

1408
01:58:21.239 --> 01:58:26.479
shellfish, seafood, milk, and
animal fat products like butter and lard.

1409
01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:30.119
Price tested samples of the food these
people were eating and found them to

1410
01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:35.199
contain massive quantities of vitamins, minerals, enzymes, and cofactors, well beyond

1411
01:58:35.199 --> 01:58:39.600
the quantities most people in America would
have been consuming at the time, and

1412
01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:45.640
massively an excess of what the average
person would consume today even with supplements.

1413
01:58:47.079 --> 01:58:51.439
So there's two things here. Number
One, we have to understand how important

1414
01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:59.159
it is for us to have control
locally. We have to understand that even

1415
01:58:59.159 --> 01:59:04.000
from the standpoint Trump, this bad
state law again being weaponized by the people

1416
01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:09.439
prosecuting him, but it was a
state law, a bad law, and

1417
01:59:09.640 --> 01:59:13.079
things can get much worse for us
if we have bad local and state government,

1418
01:59:13.079 --> 01:59:15.399
because that's where the rubber meets the
road. And even if you got

1419
01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:19.079
somebody in Washington, as we had
with both Trump and Biden, who is

1420
01:59:19.199 --> 01:59:26.439
bribing bureaucrats and institutions to lock us
down, to poison us, to abuse

1421
01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:32.039
us, to make us engage in
all kinds of insane compliance rituals that can

1422
01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:39.760
be stopped at the local level.
And the other part of this is the

1423
01:59:40.239 --> 01:59:49.960
understanding that so much of this has
been put together by these globalist nationalists organizations,

1424
01:59:49.960 --> 01:59:53.720
the Rockefeller Foundation and the rest of
them. And you look at what

1425
01:59:53.840 --> 01:59:57.800
is happening with Davos. They're very
highly focused at this point in time on

1426
01:59:57.920 --> 02:00:03.560
making the food supply even and worse, even more poisonous, because that's how

1427
02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:08.880
they depopulate the world. And of
course they've come up with an excuse this

1428
02:00:09.119 --> 02:00:13.720
nonsense about CO two. That's how
they're going to roll this whole thing out.

1429
02:00:13.880 --> 02:00:16.159
We're gonna take a quick break right
now, and we're going to establish

1430
02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:23.159
contact with Marty Gottisfeld, and he's
going to talk to us about his experiences

1431
02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:28.680
with the communication management units, which
is probably where most certainly where they'll put

1432
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:32.159
excuse me, that has sneeze there. There's most certainly where they will put

1433
02:00:32.359 --> 02:00:36.680
Julian Assigne if they extradite him,
to make sure that he can't talk to

1434
02:00:36.760 --> 02:00:41.600
people. So we're gonna take a
quick break and we will be right back.

1435
02:00:51.640 --> 02:01:00.239
The common man they created common core
and dumbed down our children, create

1436
02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:04.039
a common past, track and control
us. Their commons project to make sure

1437
02:01:04.079 --> 02:01:12.079
the commoners own nothing and the communist
future. They see the common man as

1438
02:01:12.159 --> 02:01:17.800
simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But each
of us has worth and dignity created in

1439
02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:24.640
the image of God. That is
what we have in common. That is

1440
02:01:24.680 --> 02:01:29.680
what they want to take away.
Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception,

1441
02:01:30.279 --> 02:01:35.000
intimidation. They desire to know everything
about us while they hide everything from

1442
02:01:35.079 --> 02:01:41.479
us. It's time to turn that
around and expose what they want to hide.

1443
02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:45.880
Please share the information and links you'll
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1444
02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:55.840
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02:01:55.840 --> 02:02:21.960
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02:02:23.039 --> 02:02:29.600
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02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:35.239
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1448
02:02:35.239 --> 02:02:41.239
listen now at APS radio dot com. All right, Joining us now is

1449
02:02:41.279 --> 02:02:45.439
Marty gotdisfeld and uh, Marty has
got a lot of different social media against

1450
02:02:45.439 --> 02:02:47.680
I'll just ask him where he is. He says he's trying to migrate everything

1451
02:02:47.800 --> 02:02:54.000
to substack martyg dot substack dot com. Uh, where you can find his

1452
02:02:54.079 --> 02:02:59.960
writing. But Marty, and we've
had Marty on actually had his wife Dana

1453
02:03:00.399 --> 02:03:04.520
for many years while Marty was in
a communications management unit. This is where

1454
02:03:04.960 --> 02:03:09.199
they put political prisoners in the US. Right now is where you will see

1455
02:03:09.279 --> 02:03:13.239
Juliana Songe heading And so we want
to talk to him about what life is

1456
02:03:13.439 --> 02:03:16.760
like there. It's very, very
difficult. It is there too manage and

1457
02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:19.720
to shut off any communication to the
outside world. And so that's what they've

1458
02:03:20.359 --> 02:03:25.119
designed this thing for and that's why
they put dissidents and political prisoners there.

1459
02:03:25.159 --> 02:03:28.520
We do have political prisoners, a
lot of them in the United States.

1460
02:03:28.520 --> 02:03:30.720
So joining us now is Marty got
us. Well, thank you for joining

1461
02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:34.359
us, Marty, thank you for
having me. David tell us a little

1462
02:03:34.399 --> 02:03:39.680
bit about just give us an overview
of the CMU. We can get to

1463
02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:43.279
your case in particular and why you
were there, and of course it was

1464
02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:45.000
a great injustice and I've talked many
times today and about it, and we'll

1465
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:49.119
talk about that and things that are
still happening with your court case. But

1466
02:03:49.800 --> 02:03:56.319
you're out now. But tell us, tell us what the Communication Management Unit

1467
02:03:56.520 --> 02:04:03.560
is like small self contained prison unit. Guys in the CNU do not get

1468
02:04:03.600 --> 02:04:06.199
to go out to like the prison
yard, that do not get to go

1469
02:04:06.279 --> 02:04:12.600
out to the other places inside the
prison that the average federal prisoner you know

1470
02:04:13.039 --> 02:04:15.880
gets to go. They keep it
self contained in a very small area so

1471
02:04:15.920 --> 02:04:19.680
that they can cramp down on communications, make sure that like you can't pass

1472
02:04:19.720 --> 02:04:25.079
another prisoner a note or have another
prisoner call somebody on your behalf right.

1473
02:04:25.119 --> 02:04:29.119
They keep even the laundry within the
unit. The rest of the prison complex

1474
02:04:29.159 --> 02:04:31.800
sends their laundry out right like a
sense for laundry place, but they're worried

1475
02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:34.399
that, you know, it's just
an example. Prisoners will pass notes to

1476
02:04:34.439 --> 02:04:38.840
the guys working in the laundry and
then be able to get communications out that

1477
02:04:38.880 --> 02:04:43.279
way. So they actually keep even
the laundry right inside the unit. And

1478
02:04:43.319 --> 02:04:46.119
like when you buy a commissary,
right for the most part, it's prisoners

1479
02:04:46.119 --> 02:04:51.920
who pack the commissary backs, but
not for CMU prisoners. Only staff can

1480
02:04:51.960 --> 02:04:57.319
pack a commissary bag for CMU prisoner, which you know sometimes makes it harder

1481
02:04:57.319 --> 02:04:59.880
to even get your commentsary. It's
like a busy week, right, Like

1482
02:05:00.039 --> 02:05:05.279
they might not have the staff to
actually pack the bags for the CMU guys.

1483
02:05:05.319 --> 02:05:09.720
When I got there April first,
twenty nineteen, to the CMU in

1484
02:05:09.880 --> 02:05:13.680
Terahoe, Indiana, and there are
two run by the Bureau of Prisons,

1485
02:05:13.680 --> 02:05:16.039
which is a federal agency of the
Justice Department. Right, so the war

1486
02:05:16.279 --> 02:05:20.600
is in Terahoe, Indiana. That's
the original facility was opened around two thousand

1487
02:05:20.600 --> 02:05:27.239
and six during the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan. The wars provided the financial

1488
02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:31.319
justification for the unit. The idea
was that they would lock up like al

1489
02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:35.960
Qaeda guys, you know, JIHII
guys there, and they would monitor their

1490
02:05:35.960 --> 02:05:42.279
communications and they would mine those communications
for intel to use in the war efforts.

1491
02:05:42.960 --> 02:05:45.880
A few years later, they opened
up a second communications management unit at

1492
02:05:45.880 --> 02:05:51.600
the United States Panitentiary in Marion,
Illinois. I spent about a year in

1493
02:05:51.640 --> 02:05:58.399
that unit as well. So I've
been to both CMUs. They justified the

1494
02:05:58.399 --> 02:06:00.760
second unit as they didn't have enough
room, you know, in the first

1495
02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:04.119
one, and after they've been running
the first one for a while, they

1496
02:06:04.199 --> 02:06:08.720
had guys who had like keep separate
ers, right, like, they can't

1497
02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:12.000
put this guy with that guy or
they'll attack each other on site. So

1498
02:06:12.039 --> 02:06:15.920
they needed someplace that they could,
you know, resolve those kinds of problems.

1499
02:06:15.600 --> 02:06:21.880
The second unit basically doubled the CNY
budget. The max capacity of either

1500
02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:26.960
unity given times about fifty sixty guys. When I first got there, they

1501
02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:31.640
were running in about half that capacity
at any given time. There's probably a

1502
02:06:31.640 --> 02:06:38.079
little fewer than half are you know, it's hard to even call them real

1503
02:06:38.199 --> 02:06:42.800
terrorist cases, but there are these
cases that have some nexus to something caussable

1504
02:06:42.880 --> 02:06:46.159
as terrorism. There tend not to
be the really high profile cases though that

1505
02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:51.520
the really high profile cases they go
to the supermax in the federal system in

1506
02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:55.680
Florence, Colorado. So it's important
to understand that this is not These are

1507
02:06:55.720 --> 02:06:59.239
not the only places where they can
hold actual terrorists. Right, Like El

1508
02:06:59.359 --> 02:07:02.079
Chapel will never see a CNU.
Right he went from mcc new York,

1509
02:07:02.399 --> 02:07:10.560
the high security lock up in Manhattan, right straight to the supermax and Colorado.

1510
02:07:10.880 --> 02:07:14.199
Right, So this is not where
there was no justification to keep these

1511
02:07:14.840 --> 02:07:17.680
UITs running for prisoners like that.
This is where they play like you know,

1512
02:07:17.720 --> 02:07:20.800
a twenty year old kid who gets
some doctorate on the Internet or gets

1513
02:07:20.800 --> 02:07:25.760
some trapped by the Justice Department or
both, who gets caught on like a

1514
02:07:25.760 --> 02:07:29.399
plane to Syria or on like a
cruise shift to Syria to try to fight

1515
02:07:29.520 --> 02:07:31.680
on the other side of a geopolitical
dispute, you know, in which the

1516
02:07:31.760 --> 02:07:34.840
United States takes an interest. Right, those tend to be the so called

1517
02:07:34.920 --> 02:07:40.920
terrorism cases. There. The Bureau
of Prisons gets millions and millions of dollars,

1518
02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:45.039
tens of millions of dollars to run
these units. They take prison guards

1519
02:07:45.079 --> 02:07:48.880
with no intelligence training with you know
who would not be able to cut the

1520
02:07:48.960 --> 02:07:56.000
mustard at State Department or CIA as
intelligence analysts, and they laid them intelligence

1521
02:07:56.000 --> 02:08:00.359
analysts. They give them six figure
salaries, and then their job essentially comes

1522
02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:03.119
to give people like me and Julie
in a hard time. Yeah. Yeah,

1523
02:08:03.119 --> 02:08:05.439
well, it's interesting, you said, El Chappo. Will you not

1524
02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:09.760
find him there? I guess some
would They send the Cycler family there for

1525
02:08:09.800 --> 02:08:16.680
their opioid. No, they're not
going to go to so yeah, but

1526
02:08:16.840 --> 02:08:18.239
you know that. But those types
of people, if they if they were

1527
02:08:18.239 --> 02:08:22.880
in prison, right, It's it's
a very real possibility. You know,

1528
02:08:22.920 --> 02:08:28.399
I think I'm not trying to uh, you know, be hyperbolic, but

1529
02:08:28.039 --> 02:08:31.399
you know, if the fans were
a lock up Trump for instance, right,

1530
02:08:31.439 --> 02:08:37.840
if any of these cases against Trump
result in a prison term, you

1531
02:08:37.880 --> 02:08:39.399
know, even a prison term penning
appeal. I'm not saying, you know

1532
02:08:39.439 --> 02:08:43.039
that he wouldn't have pellogrounds whatever,
but if he does do any time in

1533
02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:46.520
the federal system, CMU is a
likely place. The Trump bill as well,

1534
02:08:46.600 --> 02:08:50.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep
him from communicating with the outside,

1535
02:08:50.239 --> 02:08:56.920
they take away his cell phone,
tweet with, they're worried about his followers,

1536
02:08:56.920 --> 02:09:00.000
they're worried about his right. He
can make life very difficult on us.

1537
02:09:00.319 --> 02:09:01.399
If you were to say, you
know, I have a problem with

1538
02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:07.920
this particular cl mister Smith, right, that would the Bureau of Prisons would

1539
02:09:07.279 --> 02:09:11.560
take very unkindly to that, and
he'd likely find himself in the CMU.

1540
02:09:13.319 --> 02:09:16.600
And so, like so many other
things, like the Patriot Act itself,

1541
02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:22.319
we see something that's set up to
house people that are violent parists, and

1542
02:09:22.680 --> 02:09:28.119
instead this thing then turns against in
many cases, people who are dissidents,

1543
02:09:28.239 --> 02:09:33.159
people who are opposing their narrative,
people are political opponents. Shaeffer Cox,

1544
02:09:33.680 --> 02:09:37.399
for example, is one of these. He's not a terrorist, he's not

1545
02:09:37.800 --> 02:09:41.359
a threat of violence to anybody else, but they want to make sure that

1546
02:09:41.359 --> 02:09:46.960
they cut off as communications because he
has influence and he can influence people against

1547
02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:52.279
the government narrative that they want to
maintain. So Shaffer Cox was he have

1548
02:09:52.279 --> 02:09:56.079
to mention a one of his case
was concocted. Yeah, we are a

1549
02:09:56.119 --> 02:10:01.159
few doors down from each other.
His case it's almost laughable, I mean,

1550
02:10:01.199 --> 02:10:05.199
and it would be laughable if they
hadn't hemmed him up for for so

1551
02:10:05.359 --> 02:10:09.319
long on it. You know that
the appellate court largely satellized his case when

1552
02:10:09.319 --> 02:10:13.520
they when they reversed it and took
away most of his sentence, and that

1553
02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.079
was the Ninth Circuit Us Court of
Appeals. You know, it's a very

1554
02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:20.960
liber hole for the court that did
not you know, found the government's theory

1555
02:10:20.960 --> 02:10:24.640
in that case, you know,
kind of at the periphery of what a

1556
02:10:24.720 --> 02:10:31.119
jury could reasonably convict under. Yeah. Yeah, when we talk about when

1557
02:10:31.119 --> 02:10:33.600
we talk about Trump and lawfair and
things like that. I mean, this

1558
02:10:33.640 --> 02:10:37.880
has been going on for a very
long time to other people like Schaefer Cox,

1559
02:10:37.359 --> 02:10:41.800
but they do they have the ability
to completely shut him down because he

1560
02:10:41.840 --> 02:10:46.039
doesn't have a big following. He
doesn't have a billion dollars or several billion

1561
02:10:46.079 --> 02:10:50.439
dollars, and so what they've done
to him is horrific. And they put

1562
02:10:50.479 --> 02:10:54.279
him into one of these communication management
units that are there. Now, this

1563
02:10:54.359 --> 02:10:58.479
is as you were pointing out,
you're not going to drive to tear Hooe,

1564
02:10:58.520 --> 02:11:01.159
Indiana and you see a sign out
there that says Communications Management Unit.

1565
02:11:01.359 --> 02:11:05.119
It's a small part of the prison
that is there, and a small part

1566
02:11:05.119 --> 02:11:07.520
of the one that is in Illinois
as well, right, so this is

1567
02:11:07.840 --> 02:11:15.399
a subset of that. Yeah,
And so the Terbote CMU is actually the

1568
02:11:15.479 --> 02:11:18.119
old federal death row. They built
the new federal death row elsewhere in the

1569
02:11:18.119 --> 02:11:22.640
compound, and then they use the
old death row as the CMU. So

1570
02:11:22.760 --> 02:11:26.520
like I've been inside, Timothy mcmay
sell, and then they leave up like

1571
02:11:26.600 --> 02:11:28.920
some of the placarding from when it
was the death row, and it's kind

1572
02:11:28.960 --> 02:11:33.239
of like an ominous warning, like
keep doing stuff we don't like, and

1573
02:11:33.239 --> 02:11:35.439
we're going to move you about.
We'll find a way to concoct something and

1574
02:11:35.520 --> 02:11:39.960
move you down the road. Like
there's a lot of subtle coercion, right

1575
02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:43.319
you mentioned before. The coercion is
a far force, and you know they

1576
02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:46.359
have to try to maintain the appearance
that you know, there's a real public

1577
02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:50.800
interest in running these units. And
that's why, in my opinion, you

1578
02:11:50.880 --> 02:11:54.960
do have the thirty to forty five
percent kind of like terrorism material support cases

1579
02:11:56.359 --> 02:11:58.920
that are there. Those are the
excuse right, and prisoners like myself,

1580
02:12:00.039 --> 02:12:05.399
like Julian Massange, we're a real
reason. And so when you're there,

1581
02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:07.920
like if you're if you're me right, when you are on the phone with

1582
02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:11.239
the journalists, they just hang up
the phone, take your phone away.

1583
02:12:11.600 --> 02:12:13.399
If your wife puts you to the
press, which which data did with me,

1584
02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:18.079
Uh, you know, they throw
you in solitary. I have all

1585
02:12:18.159 --> 02:12:22.880
the paperwork to prove this. I've
spoken recently in a few places about what

1586
02:12:22.960 --> 02:12:28.279
mister Assange can expect to face in
the CMU, and I think I was

1587
02:12:28.319 --> 02:12:33.239
the federal prisoner with a course of
conduct most similar to mister Assanges, because

1588
02:12:33.239 --> 02:12:37.359
I was publishing right. Very few
guys in prison. In prison do right,

1589
02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:43.439
and Julian also he does publish right. They hate prisoner or lawsuits out

1590
02:12:43.479 --> 02:12:46.800
of the CMU, so they retaliate
against any kind of litigation to uphold your

1591
02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:50.520
First Amomic rights. You know,
first they kind of they squelch the First

1592
02:12:50.560 --> 02:12:52.359
Amendment rights, and then if you
try to go to court, they retaliate

1593
02:12:52.399 --> 02:12:58.199
against you further right, And I
think that's something that mister Assange, unfortunately

1594
02:12:58.279 --> 02:13:01.039
can expect. When I was preparing
file of lawsuit, they said that my

1595
02:13:01.239 --> 02:13:05.720
attempted lawsuit was extortion and they threw
me in solitary, even though courts all

1596
02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:09.680
around the country have ruled that,
you know, to try to say that

1597
02:13:09.800 --> 02:13:13.920
litigation is extortion is frivorous, as
patently frivolous. It doesn't matter because no

1598
02:13:13.960 --> 02:13:18.319
one has prepared in the Bureau of
Prisons or in the local US district courts

1599
02:13:18.640 --> 02:13:22.199
to be fair to you once you're
placed in a CMU. Unfortunately, in

1600
02:13:22.239 --> 02:13:26.560
this country, most of our federal
judges are former DOJ prosecutors, right,

1601
02:13:26.640 --> 02:13:28.560
and they get spun that you know, these are terrorists, this is the

1602
02:13:28.640 --> 02:13:33.319
terrorism unit. So you're done on
arrival of court. You know, even

1603
02:13:33.359 --> 02:13:35.560
before you get there. The courts
aren't going to want to hear it.

1604
02:13:35.920 --> 02:13:39.640
I'm out now. Before I was
out, I had a federal habeas pending

1605
02:13:39.680 --> 02:13:43.000
in the U. S. District
Court for the Southern District of Indiana.

1606
02:13:43.159 --> 02:13:46.479
It was fully briefed. It's been
fully briefed now since July, and the

1607
02:13:46.520 --> 02:13:50.640
court has not ruled on it.
Right, and I had pro bo council

1608
02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:54.239
helped me with that case. It's
a very well prepared case, but they

1609
02:13:54.279 --> 02:13:58.079
did, you know. And under
the rules and the statutes in the federal

1610
02:13:58.119 --> 02:14:01.399
courts, federal habeus is to jump
to the front of the line. It's

1611
02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:05.159
supposed to be the very first thing
on which of court rules because it affects

1612
02:14:05.199 --> 02:14:07.359
somebody's literate right, and the liberty
interest is one of the highest interests,

1613
02:14:07.439 --> 02:14:11.159
or the highest interest you can have
in the law in this country. But

1614
02:14:11.319 --> 02:14:16.439
if you're filing a hanbeast from a
CNU, the court just doesn't rule on

1615
02:14:16.520 --> 02:14:18.159
it until you're already out, and
then they can say it's mood. You

1616
02:14:18.159 --> 02:14:22.039
know, you're already out. But
they'd avoid having any ruling. Are they

1617
02:14:22.239 --> 02:14:26.199
avoid having the majority of rules that
could go against the CNU on First Amendment

1618
02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:30.760
grounds or on due process grounds.
Right, So this is something that you

1619
02:14:30.880 --> 02:14:33.760
filed up. This is something you
filed while you were still a prisoner.

1620
02:14:33.800 --> 02:14:35.279
There is that, correct, And
they still have not heard it anything.

1621
02:14:35.399 --> 02:14:37.960
You expect they're going to delay this
and then say it's a mood issue.

1622
02:14:39.520 --> 02:14:43.439
Yeah, I mean that's part of
the course unfortunately. But at the same

1623
02:14:43.479 --> 02:14:46.560
time, you have a federal statute
and we actually put it on the docket

1624
02:14:46.680 --> 02:14:48.840
to the judge and asked him to
rule. He said, no, Look,

1625
02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:50.800
under the rules, this is supposed
to be the very first thing the

1626
02:14:50.840 --> 02:14:56.039
court here's and that will put that
on the docket. And you know,

1627
02:14:56.079 --> 02:15:01.399
a few months ago and still nothing. Let's you know, and I want

1628
02:15:01.399 --> 02:15:05.000
to get to your case and let
you tell what happened with your case and

1629
02:15:07.319 --> 02:15:11.319
because you were there under these conditions
and Dana was working very hard to get

1630
02:15:11.359 --> 02:15:16.920
information out about this and to get
the information about the way they abused your

1631
02:15:16.960 --> 02:15:20.119
case. How you're a political prisoner. But do you think you mentioned the

1632
02:15:20.159 --> 02:15:24.119
supermax prisons. Do you think that
they're going to send Julian assigned to the

1633
02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:26.680
supermax or to the CMU And what
is the difference between the two in terms

1634
02:15:26.760 --> 02:15:31.880
of prisoner population. Well, I
think they'll send into the CMU. The

1635
02:15:33.000 --> 02:15:37.560
Justice Department has already made what I
believe was an unqualified assurance to London that

1636
02:15:37.600 --> 02:15:43.119
they would not, under any circumstances
send assage to the supermax. Right,

1637
02:15:43.479 --> 02:15:48.000
they've kind of said that they will
initially put him under what are called Special

1638
02:15:48.039 --> 02:15:52.239
Administrative Measures or SAMs, which is
kind of like the highest classification of communication

1639
02:15:52.319 --> 02:15:56.239
restrictions a federal prisoner can be under. But you don't need to be under

1640
02:15:56.279 --> 02:16:03.359
SAMs to be at the CMU.
Never understands, but it's a distinction largely

1641
02:16:03.399 --> 02:16:05.680
without a difference, right right,
Like it doesn't you don't need to be

1642
02:16:05.800 --> 02:16:11.720
under SAMs. The problem for them
with SAMs is it would cause a diplomatic

1643
02:16:11.800 --> 02:16:15.119
uproar, and the Attorney General of
the US Attorney General would actually personally have

1644
02:16:15.199 --> 02:16:18.600
to sign off on it, right, so there is some accountability there where

1645
02:16:18.600 --> 02:16:22.039
he could later be question as to
why he signed off on this communication restriction,

1646
02:16:22.399 --> 02:16:24.760
whether it was constitutional, you know
all that. To put you in

1647
02:16:24.800 --> 02:16:30.239
the CNU, they only need to
sign off from the associate director of the

1648
02:16:30.239 --> 02:16:33.600
Bureau of Prisons. It's nowhere near
as high level and official, and those

1649
02:16:33.639 --> 02:16:35.840
associate directors are like toilet paper.
They get changed often and pretty much for

1650
02:16:35.879 --> 02:16:41.000
the same reasons, so you know, it's way more likely that he will

1651
02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:43.799
end up in a CNA. And
they claim that the CMUs are general population

1652
02:16:43.920 --> 02:16:48.520
units, that there's nothing atypical or
significant about the hardships in the CMU.

1653
02:16:48.559 --> 02:16:52.719
They've made these claims to the US
courts. The US courts have largely credited

1654
02:16:52.760 --> 02:16:56.399
those claims. The reality is,
of course, though it's not a general

1655
02:16:56.440 --> 02:17:01.120
population Theoretically, I was supposed to
get two fifteen minutes phone calls each week

1656
02:17:01.159 --> 02:17:03.760
while I was in the CMU.
I was supposed to be allowed to call

1657
02:17:03.799 --> 02:17:07.319
the media, you know, and
I didn't even get those. But you

1658
02:17:07.360 --> 02:17:11.079
know, compared to that, right, the average federal prisoner, depending on

1659
02:17:11.520 --> 02:17:15.479
his, you know, his or
her exact circumstances, and this is in

1660
02:17:15.520 --> 02:17:18.120
flux now with some of the prisoner
form stuff going on, but they get

1661
02:17:18.120 --> 02:17:24.719
three hundred to five hundred telephone minutes
per month, right, and cn prisoners

1662
02:17:24.760 --> 02:17:26.840
get most thirty a week, and
a lot of the times that they don't

1663
02:17:26.840 --> 02:17:31.799
even get that for various reasons.
They can just lock the unit down without

1664
02:17:31.799 --> 02:17:33.799
providing a reason and give no on
their phone calls. And that goes on

1665
02:17:33.920 --> 02:17:37.920
for days on end. If you
if you miss your calls through no fault

1666
02:17:37.920 --> 02:17:41.959
of your own, like if there's
a technical issue with the equipment which has

1667
02:17:41.959 --> 02:17:45.319
happened. Uh, you know,
you just don't get your call and there's

1668
02:17:45.360 --> 02:17:50.120
there's no makeup call. You have
no in person contact business. So in

1669
02:17:50.159 --> 02:17:54.360
the CMU, whereas in the rest
of federal prison contact business. So Dana

1670
02:17:54.559 --> 02:18:00.159
was unable to hug me for four
years. And then after NBC dropped there

1671
02:18:00.159 --> 02:18:03.360
a part document series on my case
and Justina Pelletier, the Bureau of Persons

1672
02:18:03.440 --> 02:18:09.840
simply deleted data from my contact information, would not allow me to readd her

1673
02:18:09.440 --> 02:18:13.000
never served me any paperwork to say
that you know, I did anything wrong

1674
02:18:13.079 --> 02:18:16.559
or Data did anything wrong. And
I was not able to speak to Data

1675
02:18:16.600 --> 02:18:20.239
for the last seven or eight months. Wow that I was going to see

1676
02:18:20.239 --> 02:18:24.680
and news. And then when I
was speaking with John Kyriaku, who is

1677
02:18:24.760 --> 02:18:30.440
the CIA whistle blower who exposed the
Bush torture program, I was discussing a

1678
02:18:30.440 --> 02:18:35.520
different case that we get into that
effects Operation Fast and Furioce and the efforts

1679
02:18:35.559 --> 02:18:39.360
to investigate Operation Fast and Ferience.
So I was talking with John, they

1680
02:18:39.360 --> 02:18:41.360
didn't They clearly didn't like that.
They heard fast and furience. They cut

1681
02:18:41.360 --> 02:18:46.319
off my call with him, would
not let me call him again. I

1682
02:18:46.360 --> 02:18:48.639
have a nephew who is an attorney, so he was kind of my last

1683
02:18:48.680 --> 02:18:52.719
resort. I thought, okay,
they really ship mess with calls to a

1684
02:18:52.799 --> 02:18:56.360
licensed attorney. My nephew was trying
to help me with my case, trying

1685
02:18:56.360 --> 02:19:00.399
to help me find counsel in the
area. The calls were a legal nature.

1686
02:19:00.440 --> 02:19:05.399
I was discussing the restrictions and when
they had been applied, and you

1687
02:19:05.399 --> 02:19:09.120
know the facts upon which there are
a reasonable inferences of retaliation, a very

1688
02:19:09.159 --> 02:19:13.680
similar set of circumstances to what unfort
mister Assaungs can expect to experience himself.

1689
02:19:15.159 --> 02:19:16.840
And they just caught off that calls
to my nephew would let me call him

1690
02:19:16.840 --> 02:19:20.440
any So for my last several months
in the CMUs, I couldn't call anybody.

1691
02:19:20.479 --> 02:19:24.200
They just deacted me in my phone
account. They never said that I

1692
02:19:24.319 --> 02:19:26.159
built the rule. They never gave
me any kind of hearing of any kind,

1693
02:19:26.639 --> 02:19:30.559
right, And that's part of the
course when you do things that upset

1694
02:19:30.559 --> 02:19:33.959
them. But DATA quoted me to
a reporter of RT, and RT ran

1695
02:19:35.000 --> 02:19:39.120
an article with my quotes right,
and they took my phone away for nine

1696
02:19:39.120 --> 02:19:43.760
months and added twenty seven days to
my sense for being quoted by media,

1697
02:19:45.360 --> 02:19:48.600
right, and and so these these
are just these are just some examples,

1698
02:19:48.680 --> 02:19:52.200
right, And this is unfortunately what
Julie's going to run into. And he's

1699
02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:56.239
not the type to the client that
it was off and I get that,

1700
02:19:56.559 --> 02:20:01.680
but unfortunately that means he's going to
run into this retaliation over so they can

1701
02:20:01.680 --> 02:20:03.879
make the pledge that there's not going
to he's not going to be put in

1702
02:20:03.879 --> 02:20:07.479
a super max. They can say
that he's not going to get the special

1703
02:20:07.520 --> 02:20:13.159
administrative things that sam and uh.
And yet you know why they don't say

1704
02:20:13.399 --> 02:20:18.120
we're not going to put it in
a c What's that they not said they're

1705
02:20:18.120 --> 02:20:22.120
not going to put Yes, that's
right, that nobody knows about the CMU.

1706
02:20:22.239 --> 02:20:24.760
Really, it's that that is not
out there. And so it's like,

1707
02:20:24.799 --> 02:20:26.719
oh, okay, well, I
guess we got all the bases covered.

1708
02:20:26.760 --> 02:20:30.280
No, they're not talking about the
CMU. They're keeping that kind of

1709
02:20:30.360 --> 02:20:33.120
quiet, and that's likely to be
what he's going to get there. And

1710
02:20:33.200 --> 02:20:37.719
so it is very just to give
you an example of right, when I

1711
02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:41.159
was in the CNU, the SAMs
guys got their phone calls, but I

1712
02:20:41.200 --> 02:20:46.120
did not, even though I was
never on SAMs Derek this period of the

1713
02:20:46.159 --> 02:20:48.079
cut data and they just you know, wouldn't let me speak on the phone

1714
02:20:48.120 --> 02:20:52.479
all. He activated my phone account
because I was talking about Fast and Curious.

1715
02:20:52.680 --> 02:20:56.239
But the guys on Singers all getting
their phone I was not. They

1716
02:20:56.239 --> 02:21:01.959
actually treated me harsher the guys we're
on SAMs. But there arguably, I

1717
02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:05.440
think a lot of you of those
cases are focused too. But where there's

1718
02:21:05.600 --> 02:21:09.239
arguably some national security basis right where
he's Attorney generalman saw As signed office and

1719
02:21:09.639 --> 02:21:13.959
this prisoner presents national security threat,
those guys are getting their calls and I

1720
02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:18.159
was not getting one. And the
most amazing thing about it is, in

1721
02:21:18.200 --> 02:21:22.319
your case, this is not it
was an allegation of violence or national security

1722
02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:24.319
threat or any that kind of stuff. What it was was a case of

1723
02:21:24.399 --> 02:21:31.520
medical kidnapping that you worked to expose
against Harvard's Children's Hospital. And because they're

1724
02:21:31.559 --> 02:21:37.200
so heavily connected with government, they
use the government to punish you for that,

1725
02:21:37.239 --> 02:21:39.520
which which is truly amazing. And
I want to get to that as

1726
02:21:39.559 --> 02:21:43.200
well. But you mentioned and I
want to talk about this fast and Furious

1727
02:21:43.479 --> 02:21:46.079
thing, and what John Kyaku was
talking to you about. What is going

1728
02:21:46.079 --> 02:21:48.719
on with the fast and furious?
What is this information and how did you

1729
02:21:48.719 --> 02:21:54.799
come by? So there's a prisoner
in the Terre Haute CNU right now named

1730
02:21:54.920 --> 02:22:00.239
Donald Reynolds Jr. And his case. He didn't realize that first. He's

1731
02:22:00.239 --> 02:22:03.479
a firearms collector. He was when
he was out. He was a firearms

1732
02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:07.959
collector. He had several historically significant
pieces. He had a browning from World

1733
02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:13.079
War Two. The government approached him
and they asked him to be an informant,

1734
02:22:13.159 --> 02:22:16.719
and they had no leverage over him. He was not a criminal.

1735
02:22:16.959 --> 02:22:18.840
They it wasn't like they had him
on something small or trying to turn him

1736
02:22:18.879 --> 02:22:22.479
or anything like that. So he
refused, right, So the Feds show

1737
02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:26.079
up. They raided his house,
they raided his parents' house. They find

1738
02:22:26.200 --> 02:22:31.000
nothing, no drugs. All the
firearms are legally licensed. He's got his

1739
02:22:31.079 --> 02:22:35.040
Class three stamps right, he's got
his vocal apartment. He's a compliance with

1740
02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:41.719
state law, federal law, everything. But they can cockt this drug case,

1741
02:22:41.799 --> 02:22:45.319
this drug trafficking case against him,
even though they've they've found road drugs

1742
02:22:45.319 --> 02:22:48.879
and they've never found any drugs and
they used that to kind of silence him.

1743
02:22:50.399 --> 02:22:52.120
As the years go by, they
gave him life plus seventy five.

1744
02:22:52.520 --> 02:22:56.760
Wow, in this case is the
first time non violent offender with no drugs

1745
02:22:56.799 --> 02:23:01.079
found give life plus seventy five in
comparison, L Chapel life plus fifteen.

1746
02:23:01.600 --> 02:23:03.879
Right, so they actually gave Donnie
a marsher's sentence. Then i'l chapa.

1747
02:23:05.600 --> 02:23:09.680
As the years go by, Donnie
starts putting stuff together the names and dates

1748
02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:13.120
in his case, right, and
he went to trial, forced them to

1749
02:23:13.159 --> 02:23:16.360
go to trial like any innocent man
ordered you to assume any in this advantak

1750
02:23:18.040 --> 02:23:22.079
And he starts to realize that all
the names and the dates overlap with fast

1751
02:23:22.200 --> 02:23:24.200
periods, and it took years for
the information had come out right, And

1752
02:23:24.280 --> 02:23:28.239
so then I write about his case
from inside the CMU, which was difficult

1753
02:23:28.280 --> 02:23:33.360
to do, but I got it
done. And the American Conservative did a

1754
02:23:33.360 --> 02:23:37.959
month long investigation. They published a
feature under the headline the Knoxville Kingpin.

1755
02:23:39.120 --> 02:23:43.280
Who Wasn't They go all of Donnie's
case, They go over all the names

1756
02:23:43.319 --> 02:23:46.959
and the dates. They concluded in
the end that this case is, you

1757
02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:50.120
know, certainly adjacent to fast and
furious. The names and the dates everything

1758
02:23:50.159 --> 02:23:54.600
lines up, and they recommend clemency
for Donnie because of the proscatorial irregularities.

1759
02:23:54.920 --> 02:23:58.680
And they found several witnesses and I'm
sure this doesn't surprise many in your audience,

1760
02:23:58.680 --> 02:24:03.000
but would surprise it like the average
member of the public. They found

1761
02:24:03.000 --> 02:24:07.840
several instances where federal prosecutors filed effidated
saying this this person told us X.

1762
02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:13.920
Our federal agent says, this source
claimed X. They then compared the trial

1763
02:24:13.000 --> 02:24:18.360
testimony of these witnesses, who sang
a very different team to trial. So

1764
02:24:18.399 --> 02:24:20.440
either the prosecutor was lying or the
source was never credible in the first place.

1765
02:24:20.479 --> 02:24:24.479
And that's kind of the story of
Donnie's case. And he's been fighting

1766
02:24:24.479 --> 02:24:26.440
to try get out, fighting and
try to expose this and that they threw

1767
02:24:26.479 --> 02:24:31.360
in a CMU and they retaliate against
him viciously, right, And my theory

1768
02:24:31.399 --> 02:24:35.920
on it is, you know,
the US House and representatives during the Obama

1769
02:24:35.959 --> 02:24:39.879
administration issued a subpoena to the White
House for records on Operation Fast Experience.

1770
02:24:41.319 --> 02:24:45.959
Obama asserted the executive privilege to quash
that subpoena, and we never got the

1771
02:24:46.000 --> 02:24:50.040
records from the White House about Fast
Experience. Fast and feriors for those who

1772
02:24:50.040 --> 02:24:56.399
don't know, the Justice Department allowed
high power uner penetrating firearms and ammunition to

1773
02:24:56.479 --> 02:25:01.360
go to walk from the United st
States to the Mexican drug cartels, the

1774
02:25:01.399 --> 02:25:09.079
Mexican drug cartels that used those firearms
to massacre people, Mexican nationals, and

1775
02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:13.120
also three federal agents when we're shot
by these baduts. Okay, yeah,

1776
02:25:13.319 --> 02:25:16.239
and that was actually something interest interjector. That was something that actually a gun

1777
02:25:16.319 --> 02:25:22.840
walker program began under Bush, Yeah, and then Receiver. Yeah, it

1778
02:25:22.920 --> 02:25:26.239
became fast and furious under Obama.
So it really is you know, the

1779
02:25:26.280 --> 02:25:28.520
atf through both of these administrations.
As we see over and over again,

1780
02:25:28.600 --> 02:25:33.360
you know, whether it's a Republican
or Democrat that is in office, these

1781
02:25:33.399 --> 02:25:35.920
same types of things are happening.
And uh. And it was really to

1782
02:25:37.000 --> 02:25:41.719
carry the water for the UN Arms
Trade Treaty, which wanted to make it

1783
02:25:41.719 --> 02:25:46.040
They wanted to make a case that
you had small arms that we would you

1784
02:25:46.079 --> 02:25:50.040
know, typically keep pistols and rifles
and things like that. Small arms are

1785
02:25:50.079 --> 02:25:54.000
going back and forth creating this this
this crime problem in Mexico, and the

1786
02:25:54.079 --> 02:25:58.879
UN Arms Trade Treaty was saying we've
got to stop that trafficking in arms across

1787
02:25:58.879 --> 02:26:01.920
the border, which means that you're
going to have have to have every piece

1788
02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:09.079
of firearms or ammunition or whatever identified
and recorded in the United States. That

1789
02:26:09.200 --> 02:26:13.719
was their end goal. That was
the UN gun control move, the UN

1790
02:26:13.799 --> 02:26:16.760
Arms Trade Treaty, and that's what
this was all set up to support.

1791
02:26:16.760 --> 02:26:20.000
And I think even the New York
Times after this all blew up and they

1792
02:26:20.040 --> 02:26:22.360
had these federal agents get killed.
I think even the New York Times said

1793
02:26:22.399 --> 02:26:26.239
that this was a false flag.
Everybody understood it was a false flag.

1794
02:26:26.319 --> 02:26:33.079
Okay, yeah, So so Donnie, right, he puts this alt yet

1795
02:26:33.600 --> 02:26:37.319
and he's trying to get out,
he's trying to get back into court.

1796
02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:43.120
The Obama administration had the psquashed under
executive privilege, right which a president can

1797
02:26:43.159 --> 02:26:48.000
claim whatever the US Attorney General brief
someone the matter. It's it's analogous roughly

1798
02:26:48.079 --> 02:26:54.120
to regular attorney client privilege, except
between the president and the attorney Get The

1799
02:26:54.200 --> 02:27:01.159
problem for Donnie and from the Justice
Department rise is because Donnie's defense was entitled

1800
02:27:01.399 --> 02:27:05.959
under the Fifth Amendment and under Brady
v. Meat that's the discovery case where

1801
02:27:05.000 --> 02:27:09.879
the government's got to turn over all
all this evidence to your defense council,

1802
02:27:09.079 --> 02:27:13.680
including evidence that speaks to your innocence, evidence that is not favorable to the

1803
02:27:13.760 --> 02:27:18.440
prosecution. The prosecution doesn't just get
to bury that thing have to turn over

1804
02:27:18.479 --> 02:27:22.760
to the defense. So this information
was never turned over to Donnie's defense.

1805
02:27:22.920 --> 02:27:28.079
Nothing about Fast and Furious was turned
over to Donnie's defense. This isn't appellavis

1806
02:27:28.239 --> 02:27:31.879
right. If it's proven that thing
with hell this information, Donnie's conviction gets

1807
02:27:31.879 --> 02:27:35.639
reversed. He gets to come back
into court, and as long as his

1808
02:27:35.760 --> 02:27:41.799
liberty is on the line, they
cannot use executive privilege to quash Brady because

1809
02:27:41.840 --> 02:27:46.559
the liberty interest trumps the executive privilege
interest. Though the congressional legislative interest does

1810
02:27:46.600 --> 02:27:52.000
not trump executive privilege, but Donnie's
liberty interest does, right, And so

1811
02:27:52.239 --> 02:27:56.879
if he ever gets back into court, they're either going to have to drop

1812
02:27:56.920 --> 02:27:58.920
the case, but the truth about
Fast and Furious is going to come out,

1813
02:28:00.280 --> 02:28:03.479
right, and so he like myself
and I feared Juliana Sanz Right.

1814
02:28:03.520 --> 02:28:07.680
This is a great example of the
type of case that's in the CNU,

1815
02:28:07.079 --> 02:28:11.879
that is that there's no purpose to
protect the public, there's no public safety

1816
02:28:11.879 --> 02:28:16.200
interest, there's no compelling interest to
protect prison authorities. Donnie has never been

1817
02:28:16.280 --> 02:28:20.600
violent, he's not accused of violence. And you know, but they'll they'll

1818
02:28:20.680 --> 02:28:24.920
use the CMU in his case and
in Juliet's case, and in my case,

1819
02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:28.360
in Shakeford Cox's case. And there's
another gentleman, married Kurt Johnson.

1820
02:28:28.120 --> 02:28:33.079
Kurt's a great guy. He interceded
to stop a murder in the CNU after

1821
02:28:33.079 --> 02:28:35.000
they had already been one murdered.
There was going to be a second,

1822
02:28:35.079 --> 02:28:39.319
and mister Johnson stepped in and stopped
it. He was suing big banks on

1823
02:28:39.399 --> 02:28:43.319
behalf of homeowners in two thousand and
eight before the financial crisis. Second,

1824
02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:48.319
if the loans were predits praying at
Dell. Yeh right, he gets sentenced,

1825
02:28:48.479 --> 02:28:52.120
you know a few months before the
crisis. You know, everything hits

1826
02:28:52.120 --> 02:28:54.040
the fan, right, And if
his case had been a few months later,

1827
02:28:54.079 --> 02:28:58.719
maybe it would would work out very
differently. Right. But that's another

1828
02:28:58.760 --> 02:29:01.760
guy who was there in the than
you. But again, it would be

1829
02:29:01.799 --> 02:29:03.879
very embarrassing for the system. And
you know who went to jail over the

1830
02:29:03.879 --> 02:29:07.360
two thousand and eight financial crisis,
the wisdom that's right, only the wisdom

1831
02:29:07.399 --> 02:29:11.920
blower went to prison. Right.
So these are the types of cases that

1832
02:29:11.959 --> 02:29:16.120
are in the CMUs. Wow.
Wow. And of course John Kiriaku,

1833
02:29:16.239 --> 02:29:20.799
the whistleblower about the CIA torture,
did they not have the CMUs at that

1834
02:29:20.879 --> 02:29:22.799
point in time? I know where
did they put him when he was in

1835
02:29:24.799 --> 02:29:28.079
so so he has written, I'm
not allowed to have any direct communication with

1836
02:29:28.120 --> 02:29:33.399
mister Currier since I've still on supervised
release, right, so I have to

1837
02:29:33.680 --> 02:29:37.840
preface with that, right. But
I do recall that while I was on

1838
02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:43.040
my way to the CMU, uh, mister Carrier cup brought wrote about my

1839
02:29:43.120 --> 02:29:46.319
case, and he said that he
was he had been placed in a modified

1840
02:29:46.399 --> 02:29:50.399
CMU at f c I in the
red and paint. And I have not

1841
02:29:50.520 --> 02:29:54.000
heard that there was a modified CMU. There No one else that I know

1842
02:29:54.040 --> 02:29:56.639
if has heard about that. But
given that he was c I A,

1843
02:29:56.479 --> 02:30:01.760
it's it's certainly very it's certainly possible, if not likely, that they did

1844
02:30:01.760 --> 02:30:05.319
something very special with him, even
by standards. Oh yeah, yeah they

1845
02:30:05.319 --> 02:30:11.120
probably. Yeah, they probably did
their own his own individualized to see him

1846
02:30:11.239 --> 02:30:15.079
uge just for him. That's that's
probably exactly what happened. Well, let's

1847
02:30:15.079 --> 02:30:18.799
talk a little bit about your case, because I think it's interesting to see

1848
02:30:20.239 --> 02:30:24.639
the links that they will go to
to put somebody in and to severely restrict

1849
02:30:24.840 --> 02:30:28.239
their communications to punish you. As
you pointed out, if somebody does an

1850
02:30:28.319 --> 02:30:33.159
article about you or you have a
communication you were trying to You were able

1851
02:30:33.239 --> 02:30:37.600
to kind of in some of your
legal proceedings, were able to get some

1852
02:30:37.719 --> 02:30:43.399
information out that way to your wife. But they pretty much kept everything excuse

1853
02:30:43.440 --> 02:30:48.600
me about to sneezer, They pretty
much kept everything under control. And tell

1854
02:30:48.680 --> 02:30:50.600
us a little bit about why you
got there, because it truly is your

1855
02:30:50.639 --> 02:30:56.959
case is truly astounding. You were
not a threat to anyone other than a

1856
02:30:56.159 --> 02:31:03.959
very highly politically politically connected and very
powerful wealthy organization. And so we could

1857
02:31:03.959 --> 02:31:09.120
see this type of thing happening.
For example, if somebody were to expose

1858
02:31:09.360 --> 02:31:13.520
and be a whistleblower about Pfizer or
something like that, right, because these

1859
02:31:13.520 --> 02:31:16.120
people are very highly it doesn't even
have to be a health issue. It

1860
02:31:16.159 --> 02:31:20.079
could be any kind of a whistleblower
who was exposing information about a politically connected

1861
02:31:20.639 --> 02:31:24.879
organization or corporation. So tell us
a little bit about the background of your

1862
02:31:24.920 --> 02:31:31.000
case. So more was at the
time she was fourteen years old, a

1863
02:31:31.120 --> 02:31:39.120
girl named Justina Pellettier. She has
mitochondrial disease, which is a congenital genetic

1864
02:31:39.520 --> 02:31:45.600
condition that's degenerative, progressive, and
sadly often fatal. It's the same condition

1865
02:31:45.840 --> 02:31:48.840
that baby Charlie Guard had, or
the same type of condition that baby Charlie

1866
02:31:48.840 --> 02:31:52.920
Guard had in the UK, and
there was a more recent instance of another

1867
02:31:54.000 --> 02:31:56.760
child in the UK who had this
condition, and they effectively just pulled the

1868
02:31:56.799 --> 02:32:01.639
plug on and they would not allow
the parents to see the experimental therapies to

1869
02:32:01.280 --> 02:32:07.040
try to help these kids. Justina
has a subthing, more survivable form of

1870
02:32:07.079 --> 02:32:11.840
it. Mitochondrial disease is like an
umbrella term for a bunch of different genetic

1871
02:32:11.920 --> 02:32:18.000
disorders, so no tube cases are
really the same. Her gastro enterologists had

1872
02:32:18.079 --> 02:32:26.719
moved from Tuft's University Medical Center to
Harvard's Boston Children's Hospital, and Justina caught

1873
02:32:26.719 --> 02:32:33.879
the food and the flu causes severe
complications for mitochondrial disease patients because NIDA is

1874
02:32:33.520 --> 02:32:37.440
metabolic disorder. Your cells and your
body have a hard time converting food into

1875
02:32:37.479 --> 02:32:41.280
chemical energy to run the body systems. So then when the patient gets the

1876
02:32:41.319 --> 02:32:45.879
flood and has nausea and has a
hard time eating right, you're compounding this

1877
02:32:45.959 --> 02:32:48.840
metabolic problem because you know, the
food that was getting in already had a

1878
02:32:48.879 --> 02:32:52.399
hard time being converted to energy.
Now you're stopping the food from getting in

1879
02:32:52.399 --> 02:32:56.440
in the first place. Right.
So her primary mino doctor, renowned guy

1880
02:32:56.680 --> 02:33:03.000
named doctor person at Tufts, refers
Justina to see her gastroentrologist, who you

1881
02:33:03.040 --> 02:33:05.760
know, the month before was working
at Tufts, and this would have been

1882
02:33:05.920 --> 02:33:07.760
no problem. She had gone right
in the toughs and seen him, but

1883
02:33:09.000 --> 02:33:11.360
he had moved to Boston Children's Hospital. I think it was to presume to

1884
02:33:11.399 --> 02:33:16.959
pursue a grant. So he refers
to her to Boston Children's Hospital to see

1885
02:33:16.959 --> 02:33:20.319
her gastroenterologists. This is a doctor
who had been with her for years.

1886
02:33:20.319 --> 02:33:24.040
This gastrentrologist had actually operated on her
to put it in secostomy too, to

1887
02:33:24.079 --> 02:33:30.360
help her use the bathroom. But
she gets to Boston Children's Hospital via ambulance

1888
02:33:30.559 --> 02:33:35.159
like three o'clock in the morning on
a Sunday during the blizzard. The gas

1889
02:33:35.200 --> 02:33:39.719
per entrologist is not there. She
gets seen by a young neurologist a few

1890
02:33:39.760 --> 02:33:45.200
months out of his medical training.
He doesn't believe that Justina has minochondrial disease.

1891
02:33:45.639 --> 02:33:50.719
He refers to the parents for medical
child abuse, basically munchause and syndrome

1892
02:33:50.760 --> 02:33:54.799
by proxy, where the his theory
effectively it seemed to be that Justina's parents

1893
02:33:54.840 --> 02:34:00.680
were seeking attention and making her sick
just to kind of bring attention on themselves.

1894
02:34:00.959 --> 02:34:05.840
It ignored the diagnosis. It ignored
the fact that Justina's older sister also

1895
02:34:05.920 --> 02:34:09.000
had MITO and was successfully treated for
mitom And again, this is a genetic

1896
02:34:09.120 --> 02:34:13.479
condition, so it tends to run
in families. It tends to be passed

1897
02:34:13.840 --> 02:34:18.680
down the maternal line. So he
either didn't know or ignored those facts,

1898
02:34:20.120 --> 02:34:26.319
sent Justina for a firm of psychological
therapy for what they call somatophorm disorder or

1899
02:34:26.360 --> 02:34:31.120
like psycho semantic disorder, where like
you think you're sick and your brain then

1900
02:34:31.239 --> 02:34:35.200
kind of makes you sick or your
sentence fit your own perception of your illness.

1901
02:34:35.360 --> 02:34:41.040
Right, They took Justina off all
her MITO treatments, right, And

1902
02:34:41.040 --> 02:34:46.000
that was when her parents, you
know, really expressed severe Lauren, because

1903
02:34:46.000 --> 02:34:48.639
again this is a degenerative and awful
fatal illness. You take her off of

1904
02:34:48.680 --> 02:34:52.319
her treatments, there's going to be
severely percussions. And we've seen that there

1905
02:34:52.319 --> 02:34:56.079
in fact were you know, she
was walking, she could at least feel

1906
02:34:56.079 --> 02:34:58.440
her legs when she walked into Boston
Children's Hospital. She was having some trouble

1907
02:34:58.479 --> 02:35:03.440
ambulating because of the fluid and lack
of energy. But you know she certainly

1908
02:35:03.520 --> 02:35:05.879
she she's ice skating six weeks earlier. Yeah, I remember seeing the pictures

1909
02:35:05.920 --> 02:35:09.280
of her in skits. Yeah.
Now she's crippled. Now, she can't

1910
02:35:09.319 --> 02:35:13.760
walk right, and it's because they
took her, in my view, because

1911
02:35:13.760 --> 02:35:16.200
they took her off of these minotherapies, and we don't know if she'll ever

1912
02:35:16.280 --> 02:35:20.760
walk again, unfortunately. So at
the height of this case, right,

1913
02:35:20.799 --> 02:35:26.079
the government alleges that I launched the
largest distributed denial of service attack, a

1914
02:35:26.200 --> 02:35:30.280
dd less attack that they had ever
seen. Then I basically sent too much

1915
02:35:30.280 --> 02:35:33.639
away from me interject here for I'm
interjected here for a second, because this

1916
02:35:33.719 --> 02:35:37.159
went on for quite some time,
and she's degenerating throughout all of that.

1917
02:35:37.200 --> 02:35:41.920
A clear case of medical kidnapping.
And there's been other allegations of medical kidnapping

1918
02:35:43.000 --> 02:35:46.239
by other people over and over again
from this particular institution, and so this

1919
02:35:46.280 --> 02:35:50.559
has gone on for quite some time
before these allegations came out. Go ahead,

1920
02:35:50.559 --> 02:35:54.120
what They had a word for it
at Boston Children's Hospital. They called

1921
02:35:54.120 --> 02:36:00.000
it a parentectity. Appendectiny is removal
of the appendix. A hysterectomy is removed

1922
02:36:00.239 --> 02:36:03.280
the uterus like a parent actomy.
Removal of the parents. Right, that's

1923
02:36:03.319 --> 02:36:07.799
what these doctors called it. That
came out in the Boston Globe And at

1924
02:36:07.799 --> 02:36:13.920
one point, so Boston Children's Hospital
is monitoring, or between the Boston Children's

1925
02:36:13.959 --> 02:36:18.680
Hospital and the state, they're monitoring
Justina's communications. They're clamping down on Justina's

1926
02:36:18.719 --> 02:36:20.920
communications. It was almost like she
was in her own little CMU inside Boston

1927
02:36:20.959 --> 02:36:24.799
Children's Hospital. She couldn't discuss her
care or treating with her parents if they

1928
02:36:24.799 --> 02:36:28.360
would terminate the call or terminate the
visit. They limited the parents to one

1929
02:36:28.440 --> 02:36:31.719
twenty minute phone call a week,
and I think one in person visit for

1930
02:36:31.760 --> 02:36:35.719
like forty minutes or an hour or
something like that, and again control the

1931
02:36:35.760 --> 02:36:39.239
topics of conversation to prevent anything from
getting out. They would not allow the

1932
02:36:39.280 --> 02:36:43.959
parents to photograph Justina, so they
couldn't document, right, and show the

1933
02:36:43.000 --> 02:36:46.559
public that she was deteriorating, right, They couldn't show the public what she

1934
02:36:46.600 --> 02:36:50.760
looked like now versus what she looked
like before. Right. So at the

1935
02:36:50.840 --> 02:36:56.799
kind of the height of this,
Justina's parents published a handwritten note by Justina

1936
02:36:56.920 --> 02:37:01.639
where she talked about the kinds of
things that the psych where people had done

1937
02:37:01.680 --> 02:37:05.440
there, right, and it was
they hurt me all the time, they

1938
02:37:05.440 --> 02:37:09.239
don't let me sleep very much,
please harmy, right, and so like

1939
02:37:09.680 --> 02:37:13.920
that, molde comes out like the
day before, the government alleges I launched

1940
02:37:13.959 --> 02:37:18.360
this this huge distributed denial of service, and basically the charges against me about

1941
02:37:18.440 --> 02:37:22.079
to sending too much Internet traffic at
somebody's networks. Right, That's that's what

1942
02:37:22.200 --> 02:37:26.000
we're that's what we're talking. They
never claimed that I, uh, when

1943
02:37:26.079 --> 02:37:30.440
this happens, that a patient information
that I have a repenetrated the system broke

1944
02:37:30.479 --> 02:37:33.520
into anything, you know, did
anything. But what I did was I

1945
02:37:33.520 --> 02:37:39.000
took down their donation portal. That's
right. That was the allegation. Yeah,

1946
02:37:39.040 --> 02:37:41.360
taking down their donation thing. Not
that that anybody was harmed by this,

1947
02:37:41.799 --> 02:37:46.959
but just taking down their donation thing
during a fundraiser event. They they

1948
02:37:46.120 --> 02:37:48.719
watched that people were harmed or could
have been harmed, but the jury would

1949
02:37:48.719 --> 02:37:52.719
a convict on it when all the
facts. But when all the facts were

1950
02:37:52.760 --> 02:37:56.479
aired in court. They did not
obtain a conviction. Uh. They tried,

1951
02:37:56.520 --> 02:37:58.680
and under the federal law, the
bar is so low for them.

1952
02:38:00.200 --> 02:38:05.079
All they had to prove was that
I potentially, not even actually but potentially

1953
02:38:05.159 --> 02:38:09.399
impacted the medical diagnosis treating her care
of one individual. And they couldn't meet

1954
02:38:09.440 --> 02:38:13.719
that book. They fail and meet
that book and fell up order with the

1955
02:38:13.760 --> 02:38:18.639
pro government judge. Yeah. Right, literally everything going forward them and they

1956
02:38:18.639 --> 02:38:24.000
would not allow me to plead defense
of another Like if I'm in a dark

1957
02:38:24.079 --> 02:38:28.920
gay and I see someone being attacked
with a knife or with a gun,

1958
02:38:28.040 --> 02:38:31.840
right, and I shoot the assailant, right, and then they charged me

1959
02:38:31.920 --> 02:38:35.520
with murder. Right. In the
United States, you're supposed to be able

1960
02:38:35.559 --> 02:38:39.040
to plead defense of another. Right. It's just like self defense. If

1961
02:38:39.079 --> 02:38:41.600
someone were to attack you and you
were to take actionally defend your own life.

1962
02:38:43.040 --> 02:38:45.879
If someone were to attack your wife
and you took action to defend your

1963
02:38:46.040 --> 02:38:48.559
your wife's life. Where someone were
to attack your child, you were to

1964
02:38:48.559 --> 02:38:50.920
take action to defend your child's life. Right. So they just would't let

1965
02:38:50.959 --> 02:38:54.360
the argument. They took it away, they took it out of the jury's

1966
02:38:54.399 --> 02:38:58.239
purview. They told the jury instead
that my good motive was no excuse for

1967
02:38:58.319 --> 02:39:03.280
the crimes. Charm wow. And
then we find out that the federal judge

1968
02:39:03.319 --> 02:39:09.559
who sits on my case is a
clerk shareholder director of a for profit family

1969
02:39:09.600 --> 02:39:13.360
seafood business called Slade Burdening Co Bank, that Slave Borglan Codeinc. Donates to

1970
02:39:13.399 --> 02:39:18.719
Boston Children's Hospital, that Boston Children's
Hospital publicly thanks Slave Burden and Kobank on

1971
02:39:18.799 --> 02:39:24.799
the very same website the government alleges
I brought down. We find out that

1972
02:39:24.840 --> 02:39:31.879
the Harvard hospitals that were all eventually
affected by the didas do industry research for

1973
02:39:31.000 --> 02:39:35.319
Slave Mordling, Code Bank and an
industry trade group called the Seafood Nutrition Partnership

1974
02:39:37.040 --> 02:39:41.840
to market the company's products to the
public as part healthy We find out that

1975
02:39:41.000 --> 02:39:46.760
the judge was a board member and
a member of the corporation of an organization

1976
02:39:46.879 --> 02:39:52.040
called the Licoln Home for Little Wanderers, that his brother was also a board

1977
02:39:52.120 --> 02:39:56.440
member of this organization, and that
this organization, since two thousand and three,

1978
02:39:56.959 --> 02:40:03.559
is partnered with Boston Children's Hospital to
divert juvenile psychiatric inpatients to outpatients stay,

1979
02:40:03.040 --> 02:40:05.520
which is what they were trying to
do with Justina. As soon as

1980
02:40:05.520 --> 02:40:09.440
she became hot potato. Right.
And then we find out that one of

1981
02:40:09.479 --> 02:40:13.760
my jurors in this case, Majory, that was supposedly drawn randomly, was

1982
02:40:13.840 --> 02:40:18.200
an accountant for the Home for Little
Wanders. And she steps followed on the

1983
02:40:18.239 --> 02:40:22.639
first day of trial and says,
hey, I was an accountant for the

1984
02:40:22.680 --> 02:40:26.239
Mainland Home for the Little Wanders.
I'm worried this might cause of this truck.

1985
02:40:26.280 --> 02:40:30.639
And we moved to dismiss this juror, and the judge refuses, and

1986
02:40:30.639 --> 02:40:33.079
the judge never discloses, Yeah,
and he never discloses that he was a

1987
02:40:33.079 --> 02:40:37.440
board member at the England Home for
the Little Wanders. Then we find out

1988
02:40:37.440 --> 02:40:39.840
that the first witness in the case, the government's first witness, was a

1989
02:40:39.840 --> 02:40:46.479
contractor with an agency that actually did
the it work for the Midlin Home for

1990
02:40:46.520 --> 02:40:52.239
Little Wanderers. And the judge never
discloses this and never recuses from the case.

1991
02:40:52.680 --> 02:40:54.600
Right, And the number the connections, I mean, this is just

1992
02:40:54.639 --> 02:40:56.639
scratching the surface in my case.
And I have all the documents to prove

1993
02:40:56.639 --> 02:41:00.719
it. And you mentioned that there's
a new filing room my case. I've

1994
02:41:00.760 --> 02:41:05.639
moved to vacate the conviction. You
get one chance after your appeals and then

1995
02:41:05.680 --> 02:41:09.479
you get one further chance in the
federal law, uh to attack the conviction

1996
02:41:09.600 --> 02:41:11.719
that I've moved to do that.
And the filing is pending in the U.

1997
02:41:11.799 --> 02:41:16.120
S. District Court in Boston right
now, but unfortunately it's pending before

1998
02:41:16.159 --> 02:41:20.239
the very same district judge, the
same the same person with all these all

1999
02:41:20.280 --> 02:41:22.680
these confidence and interest gets to decide, you know, whether the conviction should

2000
02:41:22.680 --> 02:41:26.159
be overturned. Wow. And when
we look at Julian Designs. I didn't

2001
02:41:26.159 --> 02:41:30.159
get into this earlier in the program, but the judge where there's two judges

2002
02:41:30.520 --> 02:41:33.520
that are residing over this saying,
one of these two judges has a very

2003
02:41:33.639 --> 02:41:39.680
very long history with British Intelligence,
the Ministry of Defense. He has even

2004
02:41:39.719 --> 02:41:46.440
been involved in enhanced interrogation cases and
things like that. Just like yeah,

2005
02:41:46.479 --> 02:41:50.200
and so, I mean he's got
a very very long history with the very

2006
02:41:50.200 --> 02:41:54.680
people who are coming after Julian Assigne, just like this judge in your case,

2007
02:41:54.840 --> 02:41:58.680
and as songs will be tried in
the Eastern District of Virginia over here

2008
02:41:58.680 --> 02:42:01.799
in the United States, that's the
the jurisdiction where they indicted him, that's

2009
02:42:01.840 --> 02:42:07.079
known as the Intelligence School. Right
to people like John Carrierkou, Edward Snowden,

2010
02:42:07.040 --> 02:42:09.440
and Julian Nissan's right, that's where
they bring all these intelligence cases.

2011
02:42:09.440 --> 02:42:16.319
And basically your jury pool is Alexandria, Virginia. Your jury pool is pulling

2012
02:42:16.479 --> 02:42:20.520
from these very same federal agencies and
the US judges, unfortunately, they don't

2013
02:42:20.520 --> 02:42:26.440
disclose largely. The Wall Street Journal
a couple of years ago published a front

2014
02:42:26.440 --> 02:42:30.000
page xpose. They found that one
hundred and thirty one US federal judges had

2015
02:42:30.040 --> 02:42:33.639
sat over six hundred and fifty presided
over six hundred and fifty cases in which

2016
02:42:33.680 --> 02:42:37.399
the judge owned an equity interest in
one of the parties. So that's like

2017
02:42:37.559 --> 02:42:43.200
Microsoft sues Amazon. The judge owned
stock in Microsoft, and the judge does

2018
02:42:43.239 --> 02:42:48.959
not disclose, right and does not
recuse himself right. And to put that

2019
02:42:48.000 --> 02:42:50.680
into perspective because the Wall Street Journal, I don't know why they didn't,

2020
02:42:50.760 --> 02:42:54.479
they never did. The US doesn't
have that many federal judges. One hundred

2021
02:42:54.479 --> 02:43:00.959
and thirty one federal judges is about
one six it's about one six title judges.

2022
02:43:01.000 --> 02:43:05.600
So with a very uh, you
know, I mean less than comprehensive,

2023
02:43:05.639 --> 02:43:07.799
I mean, it was it was
good work that the Wall Street Journal

2024
02:43:07.799 --> 02:43:11.600
did I'm not trying to impute it. But their search was just like surface,

2025
02:43:13.319 --> 02:43:16.479
right, and with a comprehensive and
that they went over and they judges

2026
02:43:16.639 --> 02:43:20.520
disclosures, but they didn't look too
deeply into you know, each particular judge

2027
02:43:20.600 --> 02:43:24.920
situation. They found that one in
six US judges broke the law when it

2028
02:43:24.920 --> 02:43:28.879
comes to recusal. Right. Now, imagine what a deeper analysis would do.

2029
02:43:28.959 --> 02:43:33.239
And imagine Julian's judges in the Eastern
District of Virginia. Right, we

2030
02:43:33.520 --> 02:43:39.920
likely have serious ties to these contractors
likely own uh stop right in companies like

2031
02:43:39.959 --> 02:43:45.040
Norfolk Bumman, right, and the
other defense contractors. Right, the people

2032
02:43:45.040 --> 02:43:48.719
who sold sold the tanks, right, the people who sell the weapons you

2033
02:43:48.760 --> 02:43:52.000
know to the military. Uh.
And you know, Julian arguably cost him

2034
02:43:52.000 --> 02:43:54.079
a lot of business because he made
it a lot harder to continue to prosecute

2035
02:43:54.360 --> 02:43:58.879
before sat I Rack in Afghanistan.
They lost a lot of money because of

2036
02:43:58.920 --> 02:44:01.399
his reporting. Well, it truly
is amazing. And of course you're talking

2037
02:44:01.399 --> 02:44:07.680
about a surface looking at conflict of
interest. They wouldn't have probably discovered the

2038
02:44:07.000 --> 02:44:11.360
kind of connections that you discovered with
this judge if they just did a service

2039
02:44:11.399 --> 02:44:16.600
analysis exactly. It was a couple
of different levels deeper than just the surface.

2040
02:44:16.440 --> 02:44:20.879
Yeah, and that's exactly my point. And you know, they discourage

2041
02:44:20.879 --> 02:44:26.079
attorneys from looking into these issues,
and most attorneys, like my attorneys,

2042
02:44:26.360 --> 02:44:31.239
would not find to recuse my district
us. They feared him so much they

2043
02:44:31.280 --> 02:44:35.319
feared retaliation from him. At least. That's the only logical explanation that I

2044
02:44:35.360 --> 02:44:39.440
was ever able to conjure, was
that they fear this guy so much they

2045
02:44:39.479 --> 02:44:41.440
will not brief the issue. And
so I was I was about to do

2046
02:44:41.479 --> 02:44:45.639
it from say, and then you
know, if you if you brief something

2047
02:44:45.680 --> 02:44:50.719
like this, I represented they you
know, they try to act like here's

2048
02:44:50.760 --> 02:44:52.879
some crack pop, right, like
the lawyer who has himself for a client

2049
02:44:52.879 --> 02:44:56.159
as a fool, right, But
like at the same time they make sure

2050
02:44:56.159 --> 02:45:00.559
that they're at the court point.
Attorneys are ever going to brief this very

2051
02:45:00.559 --> 02:45:03.799
elected that even a project retained attorney
whatever brief this. And then you trying

2052
02:45:03.840 --> 02:45:07.000
to brief it yourself, even if
you have all the documents, all the

2053
02:45:07.000 --> 02:45:11.120
evidence, right, they say you're
supporting that because you will present yourself well,

2054
02:45:11.159 --> 02:45:13.399
you really are a fighter. And
it is truly I'm sorry for what

2055
02:45:13.479 --> 02:45:16.600
happened to you, But how long
were you? And you went into the

2056
02:45:16.639 --> 02:45:22.479
supermax in twenty nineteen, so you
were there a little bit less than five

2057
02:45:22.520 --> 02:45:24.760
years. How long were you in
that? Not the Supermax, the CMU,

2058
02:45:24.879 --> 02:45:26.760
Yeah, how long were you?
I was never in the Superman.

2059
02:45:28.200 --> 02:45:31.680
How long were you incarcerated? For
sure? So I was in the CMUs

2060
02:45:31.719 --> 02:45:35.879
one way or another from April first, twenty nineteen to June ninth of twenty

2061
02:45:35.920 --> 02:45:39.079
twenty three, so a little more
than four years. I was split between

2062
02:45:39.319 --> 02:45:45.200
the two facilities. I did time
in bolth if I've seen both. There

2063
02:45:45.239 --> 02:45:50.120
are some meaningful differences, but nothing
really that you would affect Julian or or

2064
02:45:50.159 --> 02:45:52.719
nothing that would affect his extradition case, right, Like the bottom line is

2065
02:45:52.719 --> 02:45:54.920
that they're going to play in all
of these units. They're going to do

2066
02:45:54.959 --> 02:46:00.680
so for unconstitutional reasons. They're going
to violate his constitutional rights. There's really

2067
02:46:00.680 --> 02:46:05.200
no reason that Britain should extradite him, and there is no representation from the

2068
02:46:05.280 --> 02:46:09.680
US government that is credible right in
terms of preserving his rights. And if

2069
02:46:09.680 --> 02:46:13.200
we're just a real here, he's
only being prosecuted because he told the truth.

2070
02:46:13.440 --> 02:46:16.280
That's right, right. Uh,
people found that embarrassing and it went

2071
02:46:16.319 --> 02:46:20.639
against you know, powered moneyed interests. And there used to be a time,

2072
02:46:20.920 --> 02:46:26.559
I feel in this country where that
wouldn't be an issue. They wouldn't

2073
02:46:26.559 --> 02:46:28.680
be able to go after you like
this, and with Assage in particular.

2074
02:46:30.120 --> 02:46:35.559
Right, they agonized work to Britain
this case because you know, the verifications

2075
02:46:35.559 --> 02:46:39.440
of it. The above administration they
called it the New York Times problem,

2076
02:46:39.440 --> 02:46:43.520
Like how are they going to justify
prosecuting Massage but not prosecuting the New York

2077
02:46:43.559 --> 02:46:46.959
Times. And the thing is now
they're just very selective. Federal laws are

2078
02:46:46.959 --> 02:46:50.319
written in such a such a way
that they can they can pick on anyone

2079
02:46:50.559 --> 02:46:54.479
that's right, Right, It's like
why it's starting to see what we're starting

2080
02:46:54.479 --> 02:46:56.959
to see is in the UK they
said, well, if you're a credited

2081
02:46:56.079 --> 02:47:00.200
organization, you know, you get
a different standard. So we have a

2082
02:47:00.280 --> 02:47:05.959
dual standard for so called non accredited
non establishment media than there is for other

2083
02:47:05.959 --> 02:47:09.040
people and for anybody who is exercising
their free speech. And as Ed Snowden

2084
02:47:09.120 --> 02:47:13.239
pointed out, he said, what
he's being accused of a crimes against a

2085
02:47:13.319 --> 02:47:20.000
state, and the extradition treaty between
the US and the UK specifically excludes somebody

2086
02:47:20.000 --> 02:47:26.799
from being extradited for crimes against the
state. Most extradition treaties have carbots for

2087
02:47:26.920 --> 02:47:30.479
political offenses or that kind of thing. That's something that you expect to see

2088
02:47:30.520 --> 02:47:35.280
in an extradition treat Yeah, and
yet what we have now is all of

2089
02:47:35.319 --> 02:47:39.120
the Western governments are rapidly moving towards
criminalizing descent. And that is what's so

2090
02:47:39.200 --> 02:47:43.280
concerning about this. They're moving against
the press, the independent press, They're

2091
02:47:43.319 --> 02:47:50.719
moving against individuals exercising their free speech. But it is all about criminalizing dissent

2092
02:47:50.319 --> 02:47:54.799
and criminalizing information. It's not enough
for them to ban people, it's not

2093
02:47:54.920 --> 02:47:58.479
enough for them to financially deprogram people. They have to now move to criminal

2094
02:47:58.520 --> 02:48:05.159
penalty. We see this happening throughout
Europe. Uh, there's the movement towards

2095
02:48:05.200 --> 02:48:11.360
this in the US as well.
It's a very uh foreboding harbinger of what

2096
02:48:11.559 --> 02:48:15.239
is on its way when they can
do this to Julian Assigne and you pointed

2097
02:48:15.239 --> 02:48:18.719
out the New York Times problem.
Going back to the New York Times and

2098
02:48:18.760 --> 02:48:22.239
the Washington Post and Pentagon papers,
they didn't come after the press people.

2099
02:48:22.239 --> 02:48:26.479
It's one of the reasons why they're
alleging that he had incentivized somebody to get

2100
02:48:26.520 --> 02:48:31.000
these these these papers, and that's
is so tenuous what they're coming after for

2101
02:48:31.200 --> 02:48:37.559
it's pretty transparent that this is political
persecution. Yeah, I mean, what

2102
02:48:37.760 --> 02:48:43.799
journalists would not encourage a source to
come forward? And how how explicit does

2103
02:48:43.840 --> 02:48:48.760
that encouragement have to become a forts
aproblem, you know, And the conspiracy

2104
02:48:48.840 --> 02:48:50.680
laws of the United States, even
a tacit agreement, they call it an

2105
02:48:50.719 --> 02:48:56.639
unspoken tacit agreement is enough to find
a conspiracy. So under this theory,

2106
02:48:56.680 --> 02:49:00.440
really any journal US who runs a
secure drop box right could be be said

2107
02:49:00.440 --> 02:49:07.159
to be tacitly encouraging people to violate
the classification the espionage right. And so

2108
02:49:07.959 --> 02:49:11.479
you know, it's just it's a
very simpler stuff. I agree to wholeheartedly

2109
02:49:11.600 --> 02:49:16.719
with your comment about the way the
scent is being criminalized, and I think

2110
02:49:16.719 --> 02:49:20.399
it really on the other side of
it, right, it shows that for

2111
02:49:20.479 --> 02:49:24.319
the most part, these government narratives
are so weak, so flawed, that

2112
02:49:24.360 --> 02:49:28.840
they know they cannot stand the scrutiny. But when you feel truly confident about

2113
02:49:28.879 --> 02:49:33.399
your perspective about what you're doing,
your actions, right, you don't mind

2114
02:49:33.520 --> 02:49:37.360
the scrutiny. I've it never bothers
me to get a tough interview question about

2115
02:49:37.440 --> 02:49:41.360
Justina, about like what if this
had done? Like whatever. I'll answer

2116
02:49:41.360 --> 02:49:43.840
those questions. I don't mind being
in the hot seat and answering a difficult

2117
02:49:43.920 --> 02:49:48.280
question because I truly belave you what
I did. I think it passes must

2118
02:49:48.600 --> 02:49:52.079
right. But when you know your
argument is weak, that's when you can't

2119
02:49:52.079 --> 02:49:56.079
have people question that's right. And
we've seen this with the so called science

2120
02:49:56.079 --> 02:49:58.159
behind climate change, the so called
science behind the pandemic and everything. Oh,

2121
02:49:58.200 --> 02:50:01.959
you can't see my data, I'm
not going to you dare not question

2122
02:50:01.120 --> 02:50:05.319
me about this. And so immediately
when somebody shuts this thing down and they

2123
02:50:05.319 --> 02:50:09.159
don't want to show you their data, if they're talking about science, or

2124
02:50:09.159 --> 02:50:13.879
they want to shut down anything that
is about dis scent and claim national security

2125
02:50:13.920 --> 02:50:18.440
of some sort, we know exactly
what is happening with it. And as

2126
02:50:18.479 --> 02:50:22.440
you point out, they're very they're
very fearful about this. They understand now

2127
02:50:22.600 --> 02:50:26.959
how weak they are in this,
but it is also something that makes them

2128
02:50:26.360 --> 02:50:31.159
a lot more dangerous because they're going
to start lashing out in new ways against

2129
02:50:31.200 --> 02:50:37.079
people in terms of punishments and even
imprisonment for this and it is really sad

2130
02:50:37.120 --> 02:50:41.360
to see how every aspect of the
First Amendment is actually being just trashed and

2131
02:50:41.399 --> 02:50:46.520
shreaded with these actions. Yeah.
And if they succeed in expediting the saws,

2132
02:50:46.639 --> 02:50:50.799
right, Yeah, the message really
is that they can get any whistle

2133
02:50:50.879 --> 02:50:54.840
war anywhere. Yes, right,
this is this is a test case,

2134
02:50:54.959 --> 02:50:58.799
right, right. If they succeed
in getting him, right, that means

2135
02:50:58.840 --> 02:51:03.040
that they didn't get you in the
UK and all the common donations, they

2136
02:51:03.040 --> 02:51:05.360
can get you anywhere in asient they
can get anywhere where they have influence,

2137
02:51:05.360 --> 02:51:11.520
anywhere they're able to hold aid or
cooperation or any of these kind of uniladvel

2138
02:51:11.600 --> 02:51:16.319
of bilateral diplomatic arrangements. Right.
And the US does by influence all over

2139
02:51:16.360 --> 02:51:18.360
the world. You know, all
that aid we give, we don't do

2140
02:51:18.440 --> 02:51:22.520
whatever the business of our hearts.
And you know we do that to buy

2141
02:51:22.559 --> 02:51:24.920
influence. And you know, at
the same time you have a Foreign Corrupt

2142
02:51:24.959 --> 02:51:28.840
Practices Act, like I can't bribe
a customs agent. You know, if

2143
02:51:28.840 --> 02:51:31.799
I've got on vacation of the Bahamas
and I'm going to get some some liquor

2144
02:51:31.879 --> 02:51:33.360
or something I'm not supposed to bring
in, if I still think I had

2145
02:51:33.440 --> 02:51:37.920
twenty. Right, I've committed a
felony I vio the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

2146
02:51:39.079 --> 02:51:41.600
But if the US government gives some
country a billion dollars worth of day,

2147
02:51:43.000 --> 02:51:46.760
say the fire and prosecutor looking into
you know, sun on some that's

2148
02:51:46.799 --> 02:51:52.079
perfectly leading. That's perfectly leading.
So I'm twenty. I'm going to the

2149
02:51:52.120 --> 02:51:54.719
person. He doesn't with the billing
twenty to my animal, which I paid

2150
02:51:54.799 --> 02:52:03.159
taxes. I'm going to the prison
he doesn't with a billion dollars by don't

2151
02:52:03.159 --> 02:52:05.399
you bear asks? Oh? Yeah, yeah. It's amazing that the double

2152
02:52:05.440 --> 02:52:09.760
standards and just the corruption, the
corruption, the ruthlessness as we turn more

2153
02:52:09.799 --> 02:52:15.840
and more authoritarian in terms of what
is happening with your case. Now you

2154
02:52:16.200 --> 02:52:22.840
got this this action that is pending. There is that. I know that

2155
02:52:22.200 --> 02:52:28.239
Kiriaku served his time and was released. He wanted to get a pardon because

2156
02:52:28.399 --> 02:52:33.200
if you've got a criminal record that
limits you during certain things, certain activities.

2157
02:52:33.680 --> 02:52:37.600
In his particular case, it was
keeping him from getting his pension.

2158
02:52:37.680 --> 02:52:41.920
Of course, the interesting story that
he had about Rudy Giuliani wanting a couple

2159
02:52:41.959 --> 02:52:46.040
of million dollars to do that for
him with Donald Trump. But apart from

2160
02:52:46.040 --> 02:52:50.520
that, I mean, is that
in play with the filings that you have,

2161
02:52:50.639 --> 02:52:56.680
there is that part of it.
So clemency comes later or usually can

2162
02:52:56.680 --> 02:52:58.719
be granted at any time. But
one of the arguments they try to use

2163
02:52:58.760 --> 02:53:01.840
again to you when you when you
go for a pardon, right, is

2164
02:53:01.879 --> 02:53:05.280
that you have to exhaust everything in
the courts. Right. They don't.

2165
02:53:05.520 --> 02:53:09.399
They're not trying to preempt the courts
jenially right. The president has the progative

2166
02:53:09.440 --> 02:53:13.200
to do whatever he wants. But
the kind of accepted practice going back many

2167
02:53:13.280 --> 02:53:16.959
decades is first you exhaust everything in
the courts. You give the courts the

2168
02:53:16.000 --> 02:53:20.719
opportunity, uh to do what's right. Right. So I'm still kind of

2169
02:53:20.760 --> 02:53:24.079
at that stage. And but if
this fan is then yes, the next

2170
02:53:24.120 --> 02:53:28.559
thing, next thing up would be
would be a pardon. I feel I'm

2171
02:53:28.600 --> 02:53:33.079
a good candidate for that, especially
given what happened to Justina, what Loston

2172
02:53:33.120 --> 02:53:39.239
Children's Hospital has been seen doing after
Justina. They really have kind of committed

2173
02:53:39.239 --> 02:53:45.200
themselves as a partisan political organ That
comes with benefits the institution, but it

2174
02:53:45.239 --> 02:53:50.200
also comes also that's other verifications,
right, which which means that you know,

2175
02:53:50.559 --> 02:53:52.799
my case might be viewed to the
in parts of light because of the

2176
02:53:52.840 --> 02:53:56.920
partisanship of this of of the other
actor. So yeah, I mean,

2177
02:53:58.479 --> 02:54:03.200
my effort, my faelt foremost has
to be the litigation at least for now,

2178
02:54:03.120 --> 02:54:07.280
and then we'll see what happens after
that. Well, I certainly I

2179
02:54:07.319 --> 02:54:11.479
wish you the best with that,
and again I appreciate your tireless efforts to

2180
02:54:11.639 --> 02:54:18.079
help other people and the CMU that
are unjustly convicted, that are political prisoners,

2181
02:54:18.360 --> 02:54:26.239
to expose this kind of incarceration that
is directed towards political prisoners enemies of

2182
02:54:26.280 --> 02:54:30.159
the state for whatever reason. And
we've seen this net continue to get wider

2183
02:54:30.200 --> 02:54:33.040
and wider, going after parents who
speak out at a school board meeting,

2184
02:54:33.079 --> 02:54:37.719
for example. It is absolutely insane
to see the way they are extending these

2185
02:54:37.799 --> 02:54:43.520
borders of people that they alleged to
be threats to them, extremists, terrorists

2186
02:54:43.559 --> 02:54:46.479
and all the rest of this stuff. It will have no other way to

2187
02:54:46.520 --> 02:54:52.079
support their posts. They that's right, Yeah, yeah, they are desperate,

2188
02:54:52.399 --> 02:54:56.479
and so people can find you again
at substack martyg dot substack dot com.

2189
02:54:56.479 --> 02:55:01.159
And of course, while you were
still incarcerated, your wife ran a

2190
02:55:01.200 --> 02:55:05.760
lot of social media platforms on Facebook
and other places that were under free Marty

2191
02:55:07.239 --> 02:55:11.040
G. And those are still available
as well. People can find you also

2192
02:55:11.239 --> 02:55:16.280
on Twitter at Marty goddessfel G O
T T E S F E l D.

2193
02:55:16.440 --> 02:55:20.440
But again, Mardig dot substack dot
com is really probably the best place

2194
02:55:20.479 --> 02:55:26.239
for people to find you, isn't
it because subs Yes. Good. Thank

2195
02:55:26.280 --> 02:55:28.360
you so much, Marty. Thank
you for the work that you do.

2196
02:55:28.520 --> 02:55:31.479
It is very important people need to
understand what is happening with us. We'll

2197
02:55:31.479 --> 02:56:26.319
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we just have a couple of minutes
left, and this time I want to

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talk about another aspect. We talked
earlier about the situation in New York.

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You know, half a billion dollars
that they're coming after Trump and that type

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of thing and disgorgement, and it's
due to a law, a bad law

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there that doesn't require that anybody be
harmed. It's just well, we think

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that you were doing business and you
were engaged in misleading statements. So we're

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going to take everything from you.
A bad law that is combined with some

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political persecution. And when we look
at what is happening in Georgia, Fanny

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Willis has had amazing back and forth. I didn't get into all this because

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I don't want to get into all
the soap opera aspects of her life and

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of Donald Trump's trials, because again
they're doing this to push him to the

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forefront. They want to run against
Trump. But when you look at what

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was revealed in her particular case,
she hired a she was sugar daddy.

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I guess sugar mama to some kind
that she hired. She's paying him off

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in cash, massive amounts of cash, no receipts. And again it's Reason

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magazine, which most of the press
does not talk about civil asset for for

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sure, to their credit, they
do. And so I said, well,

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what about this cash thing. You
know that is evidence immediately of a

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crime for anybody else, and yet
for her, no issue at all,

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even when there are connected allegations of
illegal activity. The fact that she has

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this cash, nobody's going to go
to her house to confiscate it. Nobody's

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going to confiscate her house either as
they do, and in her office being

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involved in rico stuff, she's also
involved in civil asset forfeiture. A significant

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amount of the budget of her office
is funded by theft, which they call

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civil forfeiture. Reasons that it's quite
a turn when a prosecutor defends the use

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of cash for financial transactions, after
years of authorities treating mere possession of physical

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cash as being sketchy and grounds for
seizure theft. This week a law enforcement

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official claimed there's nothing to see in
her alleged cash reimbursements for her boyfriend for

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an aviable lifestyle that is arguably funded
by the taxpayers. Either Fanny Willis and

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company were right in the past and
she should be subject to scrutiny for anonymous

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cash transactions, or she's right today
and she and her colleagues, oh the

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rest of us have pass on our
taste for financial anonymity. And so he

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was paid more than his colleagues about
six hundred and fifty four thousand dollars in

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all, well, this is money
which Willis seemingly benefited in the form of

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expensive vacations and other pleasures of life. Did I ever make him produce receipts

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to me. Whatever he told me
it was, I gave him back the

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money in cash. You gave him
cash before you ever went on a trip?

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Oh, yes, she said.
My Grandpapy told me I need to

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keep about fifteen thousand dollars around in
cash. That hasn't stopped the police from

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stealing money from people left and right. You got cash, Well, you're

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obviously doing drugs or something else illegal, so we're going to charge the cash,

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not you. Thanks for listening.
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