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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience
Podcast. Hello, Hello, Hank Malay,

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fresh off is European tour bro.
He just got back from Europe.

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The guy come on blowout cruise big
some blowout big some blowout. Ah.

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Welcome back to the Getting Salty Experience
Podcast. We're the only one that brings

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the firehouse kitchen table to you guys
from all over the country, over the

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world. I'm gonna say I like
new co host. His name is Louis

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Refrano. Hey be here, good
to be here. We're glad to have

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you on the show. Sir,
mean shaven, freshly shown Louis Rofrano.

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Look at him, looks like a
young buck without the mustache, and be

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big some of blue at see you
get a box? Did you get anything

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while you were you know? I
didn't get anything in Iowa? Now,

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dang suck. I got to this
year, though, What do you mean?

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You know? Where'd you get two? I got one in New York

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with the ball and one in New
York with the gun. About it.

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I don't like to talk about you. I got hot dogs coming for you,

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the hot love them Venison hot throgs. My kids go crazy. Those

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little Asians go crazy for the veg. Their tinderloin is like a couple of

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those two. All right, you
got it. Nobody that shares that is

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a good friend. If you share
tinderloin, you're a good friend. See

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take them as nose, big some
of blue, A big some of blue?

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What was that from? He have
keV doesn't have daughters. He don't

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know. Oh that's why now I
haven't. She was older by then.

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Yeah, it was frozen? Right? Was that frozen? I think so?

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Yeah, I see it was from
Sweden. You said the kid.

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There was a kid in the in
the in the chat from the chat from

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from Sweden in the in Frozen.
That guy was from Sweden. Some of

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a blue? Oh, Michael Freeman
getting in Sweden. He was here early

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too, like real early. Hopefully
you're still here. We got the usuals

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of the show. What's coming going
on here? What are you guys doing?

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You're holding down the house here,
holding down to fourty? You got

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back, he came back. The
ship was falling apart and then happening.

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Who did you have in here?
Gray? Was the seventy show very funny?

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Seven zero, I mean seven zero, the second busiest Swat and queens

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still were killing killing. We had
hodgens while you were you were away,

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you know, we had all the
big weeks. But this, this,

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this new year is is one blockbuster. I tell you we we ain't going

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into the new year with you know, too shabby either, by the way,

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you know what I mean. We
have We have some good guys.

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Yeah, our guests tonight. Man, I got nothing but good things about

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this guy, Bro Steers and queers, right, bro from Texas. I

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put on my best Texas shirts.
Look at this, yep, I've seen

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no horns on you boy, right
Bro, Yeah, get your grandma.

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I'm glad I could get some here. Joe Bysel. I'm glad somebody can

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be here to help take that with
me, you know, come on.

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Yeah. Tank was a little like
this all week though well I mentioned list

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he lost his ship. I think
he went his pants right there. But

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I said on Monday, what Davis, He's a real deal. No shame

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in my game, bro, none
zero. You will not hear me apologizes.

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You didn't know this, but he's
coming up. You know this.

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He's come to stay with me.
Him and the old Lady, which I

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love, kids love him. Call
Muchaele. Tank so we're going out to

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dinner and he says, well,
you know you gotta invite, right,

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Oh no, I didn't know who
we got invite. You got to invite

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Frank. I'm like, Frank who
Frank foota who? We gotta invite Frank

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his buddy Lee's oh my god,
please dote ed two? Yeah, Peter

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who killed Duff? Type? Bro, It's it's Frank. It's not even

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the chief anymore. I mean,
what's going on. I'm gonna call up

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Johnny Johnny Hodgens and say, hey, you want to come out to dinner?

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Johnny? He says, no,
Bro, Yeah, all right,

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good stuff. All right, So
roofs back. I'm happy. I'm happy.

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Roofs back. Everything feels like it's
flowing now. It's right. We

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got a little flow going. We
gotta play commercials. First year, I

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didn't even talked to you about it, and the appreciow you know what we're

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playing tonight, right, Bro?
We got the tough, where we got

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Roofie, you're going to fdi C
this year. That's all you need

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to know. Yep, right,
you know what you want to do our

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commercial now? Bro? You want
to do the old school Gifts of the

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day while we're doing it. Old
Gift of the Day Bro, because Roofie

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loves it. We got to push
it, push it out, do it

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tank to show the pictures first,
yes's old school gift of the day.

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We had the song a couple of
weeks ago. But look at the Pulta

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chipset but CODs drawn by Paul Hashagen
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you ask for more and all go
and what showan in its own little case?

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Look at that that yes to get
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personalized with your name or your company
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your fire department name. Whatever you
want to get online to get in salty

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power, I'll give him. Let's
ask Procachine you want to I drink it

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tonight, Bro. I invited Procaccini
too, hoping he brings, hoping his

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old lady can make it. When
tank comes down, right, we can.

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We can take an old lady's pick. Yeah, let's get the chief

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from here. Let's get him in
here rough, do your thing, bro,

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get him in all right, coming
to the stage, all the way

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from Houston, DA. What's up, Chief? How are you hey?

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Man? Thank you guys? How
a doing doing well? Man? You

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talk about fire of and this guy's
face just be it lights up. It's

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like he just can't. It's like
he's says six years old. It's December

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twenty fifth. He came downstairs at
four in the morning and he even wrapped

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at his face being it lights up. That's what the fire service means.

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And you're looking at the guy who
loves this job. Better than anything ivery

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day. I want to go to
work every day. You know what,

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before you go to work? Can
we get patriotic? Which one you will?

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I don't care which one. Here
we go. I pledge allegiance to

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the flag of the United States of
America and to the Republic, for which

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Yeah, man, but I didn't
know you had Italians out there,

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bro Steve sang with most the best. I don't know Stevie sanguinece is,

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but he's yeah, hey, man, can I say something before we start?

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We can say want before we start. We got to think those guys

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that fault for us, every military
person throughout the world, gave us the

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opportunity to take just a second to
say the greatest pledge ever. So I

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hope people never forget those guys.
Brother remind him every every week. That's

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why we beat them over there,
bro country in the history of this world.

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Man, it allows us to do
what we do. Allows you to

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have that big fat smile on your
face, But otherwise you'd be struck in

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de Deutsche. You know what I'm
saying. You know what I'm saying bro,

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Yeah, yeah, you'd be spak
speaking out or some kind of JAP

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ship you know what I mean.
Thank God for amen. So let's go

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back. You know what, I
watched so many UH tanks sent me a

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whole bunch of stuff on on Chief
Davis, and I spent a good part

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of the day going through all his
keynote speeches and all his YouTube stuff.

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And I am highly impressed by this
guy, not to mention that we got

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a ship ton of stuff right from
FDNY guys saying this guy is the real

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deal. This guy's this guy is
me. He fights for the guys.

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And what did you say before you're
you known't say controversial? What did you

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say? What word did you say? Yeah, I'm kind of you know,

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I'm out there for I'm controversial to
him, Yeah, I love it.

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And somebody's got to stand up for
the guys, right And if we

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stand up for the guys, they
stand up for the community we serve,

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and that's all we need. Just
you know what else to caught my attention,

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bro, watching your kinotes, not
only the stand up for the guys,

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just standing up for the citizens of
Houston. Man, That's why didn't

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exists, you know, we were
talking earlier. I always ask people to

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hold their breath in my classes,
and I'd like for people to do that

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while we're talking telling the stories.
Just see how long you can hold your

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breath. Let's do it. Now, give you a keynote speech. Because

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I said to him, I said
the Tank too. I watched his keynote.

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Where was that keynote speech? Chief, I want to I think it's

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a revolutionary fire tactics, I think. Okay, So I listened to that,

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and I told Tank, I listened
to a lot of stuff all the

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time, but this thing actually grabbed
me into whole. Yeah, it really

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resonated with me. So give the
speech like you gave at that thing.

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Go ahead. So when I asked
people to hold their breath and I'm not

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good at that, are we supposed
to be holding our breath now? Yes?

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Oh, okay, okay, no
way, all right about that thought?

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Yeah, And you know the importance
of that is that's what little kids

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are going through in these burning buildings. And that's why we don't run around

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spray water and windows. We don't
run around and look for reasons not to

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go in. We go in burning
buildings to get those kids out. And

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that's the soul purpose of our existence. And I don't know what happened to

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the fire Service a few years ago. We we got away from that.

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We've got people telling us that we're
supposed to be safe for us, not

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them. Then we had some people
come along telling me to go spray water

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and windows to stop the fire progression
and push it back on them instead of

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going in like we were taut.
And I'm sure you guys were doing fire

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school. First line between the fire
and the victim, and then we find

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the victom, we pull them out. Everything's good then, So yeah,

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we're taking this back though, We're
we're winning. We're uh, we're changing

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it, and we're getting rid of
the cowards. If there's one thing I

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hate is a coward. Put the
card. Where's our uniform? And I

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don't care what you pat says,
I found this picture of you. This

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class is not intended for cowards right
there. Yeah, I freaking love that.

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It's we've got to call them out. That's freaking awesome. Yeah,

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listen that you were saying, like
everybody in the audience to hold their breath,

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and you said in that time,
guys are getting the run. Well,

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actually, I'm sorry. The nine
to one one calls comes in,

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right then, this is what's your
address, what's the what's the emergency?

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You know? Oh, so it's
not your address, it's next door.

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What's the address next door? This
bullshit? You know what? And then

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the guys get on the rig,
and then he's got to find out do

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you know where you're going? And
then he has to drive there and the

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guys get off. Are they ready
to go? Do they have their bunker

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gear? Are they strapped? Are
they ready to go? All that while

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there's a kid sitting there holding their
breath? Bro? Right, and and

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and you can't waste no fucking time. You gotta be fucking ready to go

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every step on that fucking ring,
bro, Every every day when you walk

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in the back of that firehouse,
you have got to be setting on got

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yeah, it is always yeah?
Because that how many people you said,

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raise your hand if you're in out
of breath, and everybody was raising their

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hand, and you go, well, they haven't even got there yet,

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bro, you know what I mean? So now they got to go to

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work. Now you gotta find the
fire They got a fourth entry, they

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got to find his victim. By
that time, is that kid alive or

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we pulled my kid out there.
Yeah, you better have your fucking belt

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strapped, you better have your seba
on, and you better get your ass

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in that fire as quickly as you
can. Bro. I was like,

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hold that this kind of uh put
it in uh playing context right there,

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right like as you're running out of
breath when people like when you're giving them

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the whole speech about that, like
all of a sudden, now it really

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makes sense, right, you could
just say, yeah, yeah, you

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have no idea, but you're holding
you I didn't even hold my breath thirty

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seconds. I don't think. Yeah
I didn't. I didn't know he started.

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So that's what's the most What's I
don't know either? What's the most

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that you can't most people could a
minute? Yeah, yeah, people.

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By the time usually you get through
the call taker taking the call, everyone

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in the class is raising their hands
and you're like, just prove the point,

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and you know, and that's why
we drive fast. People don't understand

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why fire trucks down fast, but
that's why they put siens lots and airborns

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on them, because those little kids
are dying. I like this guy cool,

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I know he gets it. He
knows cat drive take chance a coward.

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That's what it's about, right,
Yeah, right there in the nutshell.

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When you sign on to take and
you take that off, your oath

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is to protect life and property.
It's not to play cards in the fire

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house, which is great, it's
not the fucking watch football. It's to

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protect life and property. As on
that rig, be ready to go.

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I can't tell you how you used
to annoy me. People. If I

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were details somewhere, when I was
in the squad and we'd have a call

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fight, I'd be ready to go. I have my belt off, i'd

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have my mask, I'd had my
fucking hood on ready, And you're looking

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at me like, I'm like,
yeah, I'm ready to fucking go.

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Bro. You should be ready every
time you step on that rate because life

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that might be, you know,
in the balance. That's right. They

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don't ask us a lot. They
just asked us to be there when they

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need us. Yeah, you know, people love us, you people love

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Fireman, and we can't let those
people down. And we got the best

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equipment known to man, and yeah
we're supposed to go get people. And

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yeah, that's I hope I never
changed. I haven't changed in twenty eight

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years. I hope I never changed
change. I'm sorry brother, as your

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department changed, like tactics, they
a little bit. You know. They

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took our reed hoods away from us, and we had a great captain who

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really got it. Clifford Reed was
his name, and we were you know,

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Houston has always been very, very
aggressive and we were always getting burned.

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And so he got his mom to
sew like an old welders hood to

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protect his ears and throw. Well
that he developed this reed Hoo got it.

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N f p A protect and you
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it. We woren't for years and
it's basically just like our bunker coat,

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but it's on our head. So
he felt like if we were cool in

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our head, we could remain calm
and years and we we had so much

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success on pulling people out of burning
buildings and we we we're lucky. We

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carried the Sino kit and we have
a lot of success on saving people.

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So they took the reed hoods away
from us a couple of years ago,

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and uh, we had to relearn
how to fight fire because we've never done

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that before. So there's what what
was the determination? Why did they take

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that away from you. No,
no one really knows. Yeah, as

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an administrative decision. I hear a
rumor that I hit a rumor that they're

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actually studying bringing one back. So
there's a there's a few guys doing a

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lot of research on it. And
when when I see you, guys,

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I'll have one with me and it'll
it'll make more sense when you see it.

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But it's basically just like your coat. And the Houston Fire Department,

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they were always real good to us
about our TPP ratings. They were always

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off the chart from like our nipple
line above it looks like we have shoulder

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pads on them. And so we
were well well protected in our upper body

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and and I think that led to
a lot of good rescues, you know.

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And and that was a controversial topic. Man, we cut big ol'd

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holes, you know. We we
uh, if we have a little puff

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of smoke coming out, man at
that roof's coming off that house, and

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so you know, we'd get a
lift. And uh so we did a

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you know, we did a lot
of a lot of things that you know,

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it was controversial, but we didn't
know any better, and it always

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seemed to work for us. You
know when I come off the tower,

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man, I was so lucky.
I was around good guys who were great

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firemen, and and they always wanted
you to be great. And they never,

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you know, withheld anything from us. They pushed us and they pushed

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us. And we had a great
chief, Chief Hooker I worked for forever,

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and he would let you go till
you shouldn't be nowhere, even on

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the block working, and he would
let you be in a burning building putting

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it out. But then if he
always said back out, you knew you

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better back out. But that was
the fire department I came up in that

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I grew to love. For those
guys who don't know, the towers the

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academy, right, we said that
in the pretty shoulders when you come Oh

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yeah, so the tower means that's
the academy. When we came off the

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tower, we call it as we
get out of fire school, we go

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to our assignment. Yeah, so
coming off the tower, you want to

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go to a good place. Chief. Most of the buildings there are what

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one story jobs or so in my
territory we have anything from a small,

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you know, eighteen hundred square foot
house to a high rise. So in

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the area of town I work in. I think we speak one hundred and

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forty three different languages, a low
income, a lot of apartments, but

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I would say eighty percent of our
work is apartment fires, So we do

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a lot of apartment fires. Roof. You know what you told me in

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the appre show that Houston is the
third largest in the country, the third

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largest five apartment in the country.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's New

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York, LA than US. I
think, right, how many members on

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the Houston five apartment so we're a
little bit less than four thousand. Yeah,

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there's that's the Reidhood there. Okay, wow, And me and Luis

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all use that when we go right
with you on and man, you're welcome.

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I can't wait. It's a yeah, it looks and it was you

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never felt any heat, you know, you would you would never feel a

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heat. It was. It was
good. But yeah, and you know

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what, we're lucky. We go
to work a lot. You know,

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we still make a lot of fires. And I know people would like to

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hear that, but we should like
making fires. We should want to.

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I mean, you know, if
you ever heard of a car salesman,

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so they don't want to sell a
car No, they go to work and

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want to sell a car. Well, I want to go to work to

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make a fire. And the reason
I do it because I know we're going

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to give them one hundred and ten
percent. It's not that you want anybody

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to get hurt. You don't want
need property bird, but you want to

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be sitting on goat and you have
to have that mindset and you go to

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work that, hey, I want
to do something today. Right. You

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know we're getting a little ahead of
ourself. Let's go back a little bit,

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Keith. Let's go back to yea, your early days, where you

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grew up, what early life was, your family life, and what got

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you interested in the fight department.
Sure, so I grew up in a

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real rural area and we had a
volunteer fire department, and my grandfather was

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a member of the Civil Defense.
And so I remember as a young kid,

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we were out and they were dragging
a lake for a body. And

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I can remember, as an adult
now thinking back, that I loved their

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uniforms. They had old grade jumpsuits. They had an old milk truck that

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was converted into a rescue truck,
and I just can remember falling in love

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with that and so then my dad's
job moved into Houston because it's a big

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chemical area in Houston, and then
just played right into me because I wanted

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to be a big city fireman.
And then I just once I got out

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of high school, I just started
applying. It just was like, please

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give me a job with the city. So you started applying everywhere, and

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when did you get No. I
never applied to anywhere but to Houston Fire

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Department. Oh yeah. I was
almost to the point of being hard headed

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that I was going to keep on
until I got into Houston Fire Department.

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What's the criteria if we get on
there? You take a test? How

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does that work? So you take
a test? When I tested, there

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was about nine thousand and something tested
and we had like one hundred and eighty

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six job openings at the time.
Very very competitive, and so you had

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to have a little bit of college
military you get at points. I didn't

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have military, but I scored well
on the exam and then you do your

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physical fitness and then of course your
background checks. So it's it's very competitive

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now. Something we used to do
that I wish we would do more.

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We've got a way we did legacy
firemen. And I know that's some controversial

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to some people, but I like
multi generational firemen because they get it and

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they've seen their families do it.
So in my academy class, I probably

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had fifteen, maybe twenty guys whose
dad were firemen and who were you know,

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legit firemen, and several of them
in my class their parents actually became

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assistant chiefs and the fire chief and
stuff, which was pretty cool, right.

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You know what it is about firemen
too, Like I say this all

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the time on the show. I
told you, like my father, my

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uncle, and my three brothers were
My two brothers were fireman. You know

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what the culture is like, because
it's inevitable that they bring it home.

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Yes, the house and the fire
you'll kitchen table at home becomes the secondary

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firehouse kitchen table. So there's no
shock when you get to the firehouse.

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And guy Roofie, like we were
kids, right, Rufie, you come

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over, we'd be breaking up.
We'd be breaking I'll be kid, we'd

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be breaking each other's balls like we
were in the firehouse. Yeah, a

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young kid. You know, my
father'll be breaking my balls like it.

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Nobody gets us. Nobody gets us
and that's okay, And I'm glad nobody

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gets us because that keeps us in
that little secret society, you know,

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you think about it. We have
our own language, we have our own

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customs. Everything is unique about us, and I love everything about it.

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There's nothing that I don't love about
the fire service. And you know,

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I don't like the line of dot, the deaths and things like that,

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but there's nothing that I don't love
about the fire service. I like the

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smell of the fire station. I
like the atmosphere of fire station. I

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like the guys loving each other at
the fire station. That I love everything

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about the fire station, right includen
running all night. So you just have

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to you know what I picked up
too? Like you only met me and

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Louis tonight, right, yeah,
so you must have called Louis brother fifteen

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times already. Is that amazing?
Like isn't that amazing? Like we called

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We don't even have to know you
if we called what's up? Brother?

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You know, so you know we
have to and you know we in Houston

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Fire Department. We've experienced a lot
of line of duty deaths in my career.

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And you'll be a made New York
City guys, sat down and helped

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us out on some non of duty. Dallas helps us for word. And

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then when you guys had the when
you guys got murdered and they attacked you

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guys on nine to eleven Houston Fire
Department. Since so many guys up there

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to help you, we actually lost
Captain Ports. He passed away a few

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years after that from lung problems.
And they contribute to the World Trade Center.

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But we have to be brothers and
sisters because you know, it's when

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you say that I'll lay my life
down for you that has to be true.

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That has to be the person you're
working with, and the person besides

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you has to believe it as much
as you mean it. And that's what

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makes us a brother. Or if
you call me at two o'clock in the

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morning and you say I need something, that's what you get through it.

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Because we don't we are brothers.
It's a different patch to do replaced.

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And I don't care how big or
how small. Yeah, we got to

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be it's a if not, we've
lost And you know, some people want

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to some people don't want us to
be that way. But I'm just hard

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headed enough to want to be that
way more than they don't want me to

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be that way. Who do you
think don't want a who? We had

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somebody from Houston on Oh what the
hell was a vacant Yes Jenkins, Okay

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Jenkins. He was happing forever.
So let me tell you this guy.

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This guy is to the core of
firemen and we trained. His name was

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General General Jenkins was what people called
him because he trained us so much.

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But he never did it to be
mean. He never did harass us.

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He wanted us to be great.
So we would be coming back from an

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EMS run at night time and we
would stop and we would ladder a house

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and we would walk the roof of
the house where he could teach us what

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a weak roof felt like. Wow. Or he would be coming down the

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street and would be a quick drill
because he wanted us to be one hundred

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yd that's a great guy. So
you interviewed a guy that taught me a

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lot over my career. I always
say it an appreciable before you were saying

408
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.880
that, I don't know like this
guy when he talks about the fire So

409
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.920
it's like a fucking kid coming down
on fucking Christmas. He was excited.

410
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.759
Oh my god, the love of
the job. It just whoses out of

411
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.759
him. Bro, like he's motivated. Oh, I'm lucky. I'm lucky

412
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.200
to have this job every day.
Every day, I'm lucky to have world.

413
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.640
You go to a job where you're
like, I can't wait to get

414
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:21.240
back to work. Who does that? Who says, Oh, I can't

415
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.079
wait to go back to work.
You can't wait. You couldn't wait to

416
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.559
get back from your honeymoon, right, I mean you're like I told him,

417
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.000
I called when I was on my
honeymoon in Hawaii when I missed what

418
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:37.880
honeymoon? Click? Yeah, that's
where it's supposed to be. Yeah.

419
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.759
Did you have any of your friends
that were in on the job before you

420
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.000
got on or you were like one
and my grand my grandfather and of course

421
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.200
my dad volunteered, you know,
in our small town, but it was

422
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.559
nothing formal, but no, no
one and all of my friends. You

423
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.160
know what, I'm one of those
guys. I don't have any friends that

424
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.960
are not firemen, Like I don't
have anybody I just say that's my friend.

425
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:06.680
Everybody I'm friends with, everybody I
associate with is a fireman. And

426
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:12.079
I'm good with that, you know, And you go out to other places

427
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.960
and you start trying to be like
a fireman. Your wife says to you,

428
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.400
Yeah, this is not the fire
house, bro. They don't understand

429
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.759
that you can't turn it off,
and you can't turn it off. You

430
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.559
can't turn it off right, it's
a you know, I heard his story

431
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.960
and I've never asked, uh,
the Lieutenant McCormick about this, but I

432
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:35.440
was in I was in Saint Louis
and they were showing me around town and

433
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.599
the guy goes, yeah, man, everyone here. I think he had

434
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:43.960
Kurt Isaacson and Lieutenant McCormick and they
pull up on a fire and they said.

435
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.200
Lieutenant McCormick got out and said,
just like he was on the fire

436
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.519
truck, said he look. Told
the guy driving and he goes, hey,

437
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.039
man, I got the rear and
so he took off to the back.

438
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.279
So you just you can't turn off
being a fireman. No, I

439
00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:00.799
got the I'll see you on the
top floor. See. So tell us

440
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:07.440
about when you come out of the
tower and you go to which agos right

441
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.039
in nineteen ninety six, Yes,
sir, and so Houston Fire Department makes

442
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:15.000
you go to paramedic school because we
do fire based DMS and you have to

443
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.440
ride the ambulance for a little while. And so when I come off the

444
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.880
tower, I went to paramedic school. I got assigned to Station twenty nine,

445
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.960
which was on the southeast side of
town, but we could ride for

446
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.960
people, and so I started going
over to District forty six and Station twenty

447
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.319
six and thirty five, and I
started riding and because I just wanted to

448
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.440
make fires, and so I don't
want to be a paramedic. I want

449
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:44.799
to be a fireman. So I
fell in love. And my old senior

450
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:50.240
captain, Captain Burtleson, he was
from a real hot station, and he

451
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.079
told me, said, man,
you're going to disappoint me if you don't

452
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.680
go to forty six's seven's or somewhere
like that. So I went to forty

453
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.319
six is as soon as I could. Now forty six is me is at

454
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.000
the engine and the truck of both
forty six. Yeah, forty six housed

455
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.839
a chief, an engine, a
truck, and a squad also had an

456
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:12.280
ambulance. So I drove the squad
for a while, and the squad basically

457
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.920
carries medics and we would get to
work at fires. We had a great

458
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:20.440
chief, chief Hooker. He would
put us to work on fires. Matter

459
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.239
of fact, Captain Jenkins used to
always life and he goes man. My

460
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.519
squad got an assigned before I did, so, so that was the thrill.

461
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.199
And then I was on the engine. And then when I made captain,

462
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.119
I was lucky enough to stay at
forty six and I stayed at forty

463
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.880
six on the same shift as a
captain and worked there several years as a

464
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.719
captain, and then I became on
the engine or on the engine, yes,

465
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.760
sir, And the way we do
it Houston Fire Department, they called

466
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:52.719
captains or on the engines, and
senior captains are on the truck. So

467
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.119
you take another promotion to get on
the truck because we have we have dual

468
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.320
roles, like were you guys,
You're either assigned to a tru truck or

469
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:05.440
an engine. We alternate on both
apparatus. So today you may be on

470
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.320
the engine, tomorrow you may be
on the truck. And it works like

471
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:12.400
that. But a senior captain is
as signed to the truck. Always.

472
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.440
How many guys does the truck and
the engine ride with in Houston, so

473
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.519
the engine has four, we magnated
four. It's a sad story. How

474
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.920
we got four. When I first
got in, we rode with three.

475
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.760
Captain Yankee was killed in a high
rise fire, and the Yankee family was

476
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.679
very influential. I mean there was
you know, I don't even know how

477
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.800
many Yankees that was in the fire
department. And right before Captain Yankee was

478
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:45.320
killed, the chiefs went to city
council and told them we needed four men

479
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.320
staffing and all the dangers. So
they had a chief that said, no,

480
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:53.599
that's not the case. They let
us go back to three man staffing.

481
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.920
And Captain Yankee and the civilian was
killed just like maybe a month or

482
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.000
so later. So after that they
mandated four men staff and so we have

483
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.880
four on the engine, four on
the truck. Could you buy any chance

484
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.840
to go back to that chief and
say you dick a lot of people?

485
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:17.239
Did he? He'd left very quickly. I'm so, you know, sadly

486
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.239
that was a bad decision made by
the administrative level that hurt us, you

487
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:28.920
know, and you guys the officer
for yes, so yes, like we

488
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:34.360
we count our officers a working member, yes, Like like he's not stretching

489
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.119
hose, so he no, he
usually takes the thermal imager and he'll he'll

490
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:44.039
actually lead the process. But but
he is still working, you know,

491
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.519
working because I heard that some of
the offers that are actually engage in fire

492
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:52.559
fighting practice. Is that true?
They did tight because you pull a lot

493
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:58.559
picture up of a random chief actually
caught using a sore as a chief somewhere.

494
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:05.199
I don't know as a chief.
He picks up a saw and he's

495
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.599
cutting the holes. I mean,
I don't know. Is that what happened?

496
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.920
Was that? So we had a
donut shaped apartment. Is that a

497
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.880
technical type of apartment thing that you
got called? Yeah, it's uh,

498
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:17.920
and so what it is they're just
built in a big circle, right.

499
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.519
So the guys were working down to
the left and some guys was working behind

500
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:28.639
me, and you know, we
needed to get that roof, I mean

501
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.360
not the roof, but the underneath
the ceiling and the breezeway out. And

502
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.960
so there was a saw there.
I said, I'll just start cutting away

503
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.400
for him, and so I cut
the I cut that away and pulled a

504
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.519
little bit for him. That way
they could get some lines in there and

505
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.679
go to work. It's like,
it's you know what, Chief Steve's shivering

506
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.039
right now. Hey, I I
tell people I didn't take a test to

507
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.159
do less. I took a test
to do more. So uh yeah,

508
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.360
it's a a lot of people goes
man, that might be stud But to

509
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:01.840
cut that pull, I'm like,
well, we had to get water in

510
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.679
there somehow, so it worked for
us. Hey, if you don't want

511
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:08.960
to ask you, I saw in
the last I don't know, two weeks,

512
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:13.840
probably like three. I like to
call them like shed fires, like

513
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:21.039
a one story building, and there's
like three to four guys on the roof

514
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:23.920
right to peak. It's like it's
not even a peak, but it's like

515
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:30.920
just like a flat peak right right, Yet all of the windows are intact

516
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.239
right. There might be there might
be a line going in. I can't

517
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.320
really tell all the time, but
I think the one that I just saw,

518
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:43.599
somebody like actually they weren't butting the
ladder and I don't know if you've

519
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.079
seen that one, and everybody just
came tumbling down. The ladder kicked out

520
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:52.639
and they they all came tumbling down. But why, I'm not saying don't

521
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.679
vent the roof, right, I'm
just saying you got three guys on the

522
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.239
roof or four guys on the roof. Every person who comes on here outside

523
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:07.599
of the FDNY has manpower issues,
yes, so what and all the windows

524
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.960
are intact, like it's like a
one story shed for God's sakes, Like

525
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:16.880
what's so we we we get a
lot of people on our fires. So

526
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:22.320
we have two trucks coming, and
the first truck gets to make a decision

527
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:27.800
if we're going to go in emergency
rescue mode or primary search mode at that

528
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.159
and then the second truck will cut
or the first truck will cut, and

529
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:36.039
we keep all windows in tight.
And what we try to do by keeping

530
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.280
windows in tight, as soon as
we kept that hole, we'll crank a

531
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:44.280
fan and we'll pressurize everything on that
first floor and it'll push it up through

532
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.920
that vent hole. And so we
carry this thing called a brick on a

533
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:53.320
stick, and it's a big old
Neanderthal looking tool. And so as soon

534
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.840
as one guy cuts, the cleanout
guy will come and he will take the

535
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.880
celing under need for them, and
then we pressurize that and we get it

536
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.440
all up and out. And so
it's either the first or the second truck

537
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:12.079
that will do that. So we
have two trucks coming, and we will

538
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:17.119
get one truck, and so the
first line is always going to be the

539
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:22.000
attack line, and then we'll put
a backup line in place to protect the

540
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.920
engine crew, and then we'll put
a truck crew in search it, and

541
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:30.199
then we'll put a truck crew on
the roof. Now, if we pull

542
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.039
up that being said, and I've
got fire blowing out of a side window,

543
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:40.199
we'll crank the fan up immediately and
pressurize everything and keep pushing that fire.

544
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.480
It works out good like it works
good, it does. You have

545
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.519
to be real careful. Now,
if you're not, if you're not used

546
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:51.000
to what the fans going to do, and you're not, you don't have

547
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.960
a real aggressive hose company, you'll
burn it down around you. Foundation.

548
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:04.559
Finally a guy gave you an answer. You've you've got to be working that

549
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.159
hose line, and you've got to
have some guys that's that's really getting after

550
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:13.159
it. If you stump your toe
and that fan is blowing behind you,

551
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.519
it will find you. So you
guys are actually when they're in there with

552
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:22.000
the line putting water on the fire, the fan will start to be in

553
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:28.320
operation. When that's happening right right
right right behind you, the truck,

554
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.519
the fan, the truck chauffeur will
crank that fan up behind that line.

555
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.599
I got to see that like an
action, how coordinated. I mean,

556
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.239
obviously it has to be really scary, you know. And that was something

557
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:45.719
that that we drill on constantly and
as soon as a rookie comes in.

558
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.920
Now there's a lot of things that
play in effect. Like if you make

559
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.840
a common addict apartmer fire, you're
not going to do that. Or if

560
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:59.000
you make you know, say a
roll home, you're not going to do

561
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.000
that. That's just on scene story
homes that you're going to do that with.

562
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.440
If you make an old balloom frame
construction house, you're not going to

563
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.280
do it there, you know.
But if you just make a one story

564
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:15.159
that's really burning good and you've got
a vent hole already, you've cranked that

565
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:20.119
fan up and and what it does
is it seems like it pressurizes in there,

566
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.960
and then all of a sudden you'll
see the smoke start going to where

567
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.880
the fire is and then it will
push it out that exhaust point. That's

568
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:32.559
why I hope I don't make your
guests mad, But that's why I am

569
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:38.440
so against spraying water in windows.
You will never convince me in my entire

570
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:45.360
life that spraying water and a burning
window is a good thing because you're just

571
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.559
going to push the fire back inside. You're going to steam everybody. Now,

572
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.239
there's occasions when you have to go
defensive. I understand that. But

573
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.440
the first tactic off the pumper to
just go spray water in the window.

574
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.920
Well, the only thing we've learned
to you is that sometimes guys show up

575
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.440
with like one or two guys and
they really have no choice. It's not

576
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:09.840
like also you guys. So I
do understand that. I understand that I

577
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:15.639
don't want anyone one man engine go
off in there with a fan. I

578
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:22.400
would never think that, And I
am totally okay with a one man engine

579
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.800
doing what he has to do.
You know. Sadly, I think the

580
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.920
county and the city fell the citizens
there, not the fire department, right,

581
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.960
So, but yes, I do
agree with that. Now that's as

582
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.719
it's kind of like, I mean, I've heard a little bit about the

583
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:45.320
fans, but I haven't really heard
like yeah, legit like protocol like this

584
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.719
is what we're doing, like you
would do that. That's happening every far.

585
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:53.079
Really, Yes, look at that. If somebody answered your question that

586
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.199
that tactic was huge and a lot
of places like where I'm from throughout the

587
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.719
late nineties and all the way up
into the mid two thousands. I mean

588
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.440
the fan. Yeah, that positive
pressure attack like that, as long as

589
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.079
you had a vent point and it
takes training. That's that makes sense why

590
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.679
everybody's going to the roof then.
But so that's the whole truck company,

591
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.960
the whole second truck is going there. Or is that just so the the

592
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.239
the senior captain and the two firefighters. The guy driving he will usually he

593
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:28.079
will usually go about halfway up the
ladder and he will watch and make sure

594
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.400
the roof's not getting soft underneath them, and he'll just kind of be their

595
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.360
safety guy. As soon as they
start coming up the roof, then he'll

596
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.880
go get the electricity. We'll we'll
cut the power real quick. No they're

597
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:42.400
not they're not taking glass. No, see that's what that makes sense.

598
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.119
Then to be lit for me,
it's a hell of a lot easier to

599
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.559
just take the windows, ain't it? Then put an you got thirty five

600
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.719
hundred guys showing up? Well,
yeah, probably a little easier, you

601
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:59.440
know, yeah, yeah, And
so it's a Raymand Cormick was messing with

602
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.800
me one time and we were talking
about and I was asking him. I

603
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.760
said, do you guys bust windows? He goes, no, we don't

604
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.239
bust windows. We take windows.
And so so, yeah, I say

605
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.480
that all the time because every time
I watch it, all the windows are

606
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.880
inta. I must have said it
a thousand times. All the windows are

607
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.360
intact. I see five guys on
the roof, and it doesn't make any

608
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.880
sense to me because those guys could
be searching. Like you were saying,

609
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.239
there's not much time. Yeah,
and you know, to have all those

610
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.239
guys on the roof just to cut
a hole, yeah, it makes that

611
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.719
much sense to me. But yeah, maybe it makes a little more sense.

612
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:34.119
And so you know, and we're
we're real lucky because the way that

613
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.320
the forefathers of us, the way
they set our city up. In our

614
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:44.519
response area, we have two trucks
in the district, so by the time

615
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.800
one truck gets to the root,
the other trucks usually arrive at on scenes.

616
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:52.119
So we're we're pretty lucky about getting
a lot of manpower there quick.

617
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.840
You know, we're fairly close.
We have very good water supply. We

618
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:00.079
have, you know, a couple
of plugs on every street, so we

619
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.719
don't take manpower away from that we
were able to, you know, and

620
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.800
like all all engines are pulling up
almost at the same time, and then

621
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.159
the trucks are getting there just right
right at the same time with them.

622
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.960
So that helps a lot. You
know, if we had a delayed response

623
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:22.559
time, we would probably alter our
thinking a little bit, but initially and

624
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:28.400
you know, and you think back
our thinking and you know, and I

625
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.880
think some some stations in Houston Fire
Department. You know, you look at

626
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:38.159
you look at at seven's, thirty
four's, thirty one's. Those guys are

627
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:44.719
great hole cutters. I mean they
just like that's what they do. And

628
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.000
those guys have probably because you know, when I was a young fireman,

629
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:53.599
we used to see a guy named
Travis Quint and Captain Barr. And Travis

630
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:58.119
Quint is a big, old,
burly guy and you would see him carrying

631
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:05.360
a thirty five foot ladder with a
running chainsaw. That was his job and

632
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:08.920
so he would make me look little
and so and Captain bar was like the

633
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:14.880
surgeon, you know, he just
get there. But they instilled those values

634
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:19.599
and when you went to those stations, that was really part of your early

635
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.880
training is to work on that roof, work on it. Safely, you

636
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.079
know, like Captain Genkins made us
walk on it. Hey where to cut?

637
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:31.000
How to notice where to cut?
And then they're in my district at

638
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:37.800
sixty eighths. I've seen Captain Schroger
cut some stuff that you know, it

639
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.039
just just like scared me to death
and the next thing, you know,

640
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.280
everything looks better. You know,
there's a there's a there's a video out

641
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:54.320
there about ventilation on District nineteen and
smoke is just like almost to the ground.

642
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:59.400
Well, Captain Baker and his guys
are already up on the roof and

643
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.559
you can see it just pressurized coming
out of the rear, and then all

644
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.079
of a sudden you just see the
smoke leave and you could walk through the

645
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.760
house and you could see Captain Baker
and his guys on the roof and they

646
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.800
cut this. I don't know,
I could send it to you guys one

647
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.320
day and let you see it and
just see how how well that worked.

648
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:21.559
But our thinking is, so you
know, whenever smoke goes up, you

649
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.119
know, it meets resistance and all
that. So our thinking is, if

650
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:29.360
we cut it and we clear that
siling out, it just goes right straight

651
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:30.719
up and out and it gets up
off the guys and then the hose line

652
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.119
makes a lot better plus the victims
too. Yeah. No, I mean

653
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.760
we do that as well. You
guys do that on flat groups, I

654
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.039
think, yeah, we do that. We don't go on peak groups,

655
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:45.599
yeah, don't. Now is that
just is that just legacy reasons or just

656
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.440
that you just get in there a
lot quicker with a line, And yeah,

657
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:51.760
I mean most of the time,
anything that's peaked is going to be

658
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.039
a one or two story, so
you know, yeah, we call those

659
00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:00.559
dollhouses. So well again stuff with
Mann Powell, you know, most of

660
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:04.679
the time. You know, very
few times that I've seen, even in

661
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.519
I'm sure Kevin would say the same
thing once in a while. If it's

662
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.559
like a Queen Anne type or something
like that, where it's got a lot

663
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:14.639
of peaks and valleys and the fires
in there and the guys can't get to

664
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:16.559
it, then maybe they'll use a
towel, ladder, bucket. But nobody

665
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:20.880
would ever put up a ladder like
I see you guys do, like the

666
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.679
hook ladders and stuff like that.
We wouldn't do any of that stuff ever.

667
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.719
Yeah, yeah, it's a yeah. I think I just read a

668
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.360
comment that someone was talking about that
that vertical ventilation rules. They just don't

669
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:35.920
put the fan, and you know
it. It doesn't work for everyone,

670
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.480
and I'll be the first to say
that, but it just works for us.

671
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:42.920
Listen, if you coordinated, then
it weren't and the guys are all

672
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.320
on the same page and it works
good, then you know, and so

673
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.159
we always have just like everything else, we always have a backup plan.

674
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:54.800
If that fan doesn't work, immediately, the chauffeur cuts it off. And

675
00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.559
when I say immediately, I mean
seconds. So you know, a lot

676
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:06.239
of it is and it's coordinated and
really something that's drilled on over and over

677
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:10.880
and over. So yeah, you
can be careful with the You have to

678
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.599
know your territory. I mean,
you can't go to a bloom frame construction

679
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.280
home and do that, or you
can't go to a row house or a

680
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.400
common addict. So it's really got
to be really coordinated. You got to

681
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.559
understand it and you've got to be
on your toes with it too. Do

682
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:30.599
you guys have those like I figured
down in the South, maybe like the

683
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.239
terra cotta roofs, like those tile
roofs. Do you I've never seen one

684
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.800
in my territory. I'm sure some
of the richer parts of town may have

685
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:42.320
those. I've never seen one,
but I think those would probably be hard

686
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:49.000
to vent. I mean, I
wouldn't really where it started at busted?

687
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.519
Where were we at coops? I
just had a question. I forgot what

688
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:54.119
the hell it was. But all
right, well you think about it.

689
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:58.679
I've never in a long time,
I've not seen the chat get so fired

690
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.000
up about a specific topics. I
got a boys in the chant. I

691
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.360
gotta take a breath and love each
other, and remember it's all about how

692
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.639
you trained, what you trained for
talking about they're fired up. It's venting

693
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:14.000
on the fan. Well they're talking
about my shirt too, so you start

694
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.239
to pick up. I saw stipend
like like he was like going like this,

695
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.320
you know, and and then he
forgot his question because he was all

696
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.280
fired up. I got off your
old ladies. I never really had to

697
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:31.400
make twenty minutes the type that.
I've never been so happy to see a

698
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.480
topic changes start making get right in
there. It was needed. Oh yeah,

699
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.239
all right, so listen, you
go from where's the fucking thing right

700
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:46.639
here? Bro uh captain of engine
forty six, you become right yeah before

701
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:52.760
special ops. So there's no rank
I would imagine in the it's uh so

702
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:59.679
the special Ops was a senior captain
position. And so we have three rescue

703
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:05.360
trucks in the city and I was
assigned the one rescue truck as a senior

704
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.239
and two has captains. I was
assigned to the one with a senior,

705
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:14.159
and we pretty much do everything cool
in the city. All major accidents,

706
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.840
you know, structural collapse, all
good fires, all multiple arms, we

707
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:23.119
go to trench you know, water
rescues and things like that. So that

708
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.079
was a that was a three year
of earning experience, and you know,

709
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.960
I was kind of I guess I
was the weak link when I went there

710
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.800
because I didn't grow up and rescue
and I did it because I knew someday

711
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.480
I wanted to be a chief.
But I've never known any part of the

712
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.840
city other than forty sixes. So
I'm like, man, I better go

713
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.440
on the city, Yvh're gonna start
learning the rest of the city. And

714
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.719
so, you know, it's a
good opportunity to see all over, you

715
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:52.320
know, all over the city.
All right, somebody in the chat wants

716
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:58.239
to know if do you remember your
first job. I was a very young

717
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:02.559
guy It was at Belford and None
Street, and it was like a little

718
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.960
stopping gun burning. And I can
remember thinking, I don't know what I'm

719
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.719
doing. I'm scared to death,
but I'm having so much fun. And

720
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.960
I stayed tangled up in wires the
entire fire. Everywhere I went, I

721
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:22.559
was tangled up to something. And
so finally after we got it put out,

722
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.159
and we got it, we got
it put out, and my old

723
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.920
captain, he he made me work
harder at anybody. I wet that thing

724
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:35.400
down and there's probably still wet woods
somewhere out there, so much water on

725
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:42.480
it. That's like, yeah,
I still remember the address. What is

726
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:47.199
it? Belford? None? Belford
is on Non Street, right at Non

727
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.280
Street, Melford. So we saw
you go as the chief take a saw.

728
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:53.880
Have you ever wound up with the
nozzle as the chief? I have?

729
00:53:54.480 --> 00:54:02.800
So did you expects? Like real? I really did. It was

730
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:10.320
hot with the nozzle, and you
know, so I work with Chief App,

731
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.280
So a backstory to this. So
Chief App and I we work side

732
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:19.719
by side. We responded everything together. And Chief App was the one that

733
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.199
was trapped in the high rise here
on the northeast side of town a few

734
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:28.920
years ago. And so he Uh, I figure he's given enough to the

735
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.960
city, he's earned the right to
decide what he wants to do. So

736
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.320
uh sometimes if it's real hot,
I'll go take it because he can't he

737
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:42.199
can't regulate his temperature. He messed
his body up real bad in that fire.

738
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.239
He he can't regulate temperature. He's
got long problems, liver problems,

739
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:53.599
of kidney problems. And he was
such a good firefighter. And so I

740
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:59.199
get to be a division. So
occasionally you make these big apartment fires.

741
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.239
Guys are just war out, and
so usually say, hey, man,

742
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.039
take a little break, you know, let me let me get that nozzle,

743
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:08.440
simon. I'll give you a break
back, and I'll do it.

744
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:12.039
But you know, nothing crazy,
you know, just a little water squirt

745
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.559
and then let them pick a break
and go back. Can you imagine giving

746
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:22.000
up the nozzle to the chief.
I mean, I'm sure your paper would

747
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.400
have to be in if once you
came back to the firehouse. I don't

748
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:31.920
know, to the chief, what's
that chief? I'm probably the biggest fire

749
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:36.039
squirrel you ever met. I love
making them, and I love everything about

750
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.599
it. I mean I would even
go overhaul one just to get to go

751
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:44.480
one. So yeah, and the
guys are good to me. I worked

752
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.960
with some man I work with some
good guys, you know, Captain Mario,

753
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:53.239
Captain Schroeder, I got, Captain
Cranchey and Captain o VICKI Capdena.

754
00:55:53.320 --> 00:56:00.000
Those guys are just good and they've
built this this great team. So I'm

755
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.360
don't have anything to do, and
so they're good and they let me,

756
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:07.440
you know, they let they let
me have Yeah. Yeah, so they're

757
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.519
good to me. Let the chief
get in there. Scratches it a little

758
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:20.480
bit now, Yeah, probably take
the nozle. At the one hundred and

759
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:25.320
forty six, you go to Rescue
eleven, Rescue most three rescues, Yes,

760
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:29.599
sir, we have three rescues.
We have Rescue forty two, which

761
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.400
is on the east side, and
they kind of divide the city up.

762
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:37.239
We have six hundred and forty two
square miles in the city of Houston it

763
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:43.039
is, and we have almost one
hundred fire stations. So they put the

764
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.119
rescue trucks in thirds. So forty
twos takes care of the east side,

765
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:52.760
Rescue eleven takes care of the middle
part, and then Rescue ten takes care

766
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:59.320
of the west side. So if
Rescue ten or Rescue forty two has a

767
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:02.960
significant incident, Rescue eleven will always
go help because we carry a little bit

768
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:08.719
of extra tools. We're actually on
a tractor trailer. Tractor trail, you

769
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:13.679
got to find that. Look who's
if you look up Rescue eleven, you'll

770
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:17.840
see a tractor trailer come up.
The busiest I'm sorry, who's the busiest?

771
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:22.440
Fire duty wise eleven? So Rescue
eleven. So when the rescue company

772
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:30.079
eleven in my district is one of
the busiest districts in the city, Station

773
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:36.519
fifty one is always in the top. Station twenty eight, which is right

774
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:42.360
by fifty one's top numbers, and
then sixty eight's is always like third or

775
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:46.039
fourth in run volumes and then working
fires. So I mean the guys go

776
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:52.760
to work a lot. Yeah,
there's a lot of you know across the

777
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:58.800
city. You know, forty six
is District thirty one's thirty four's those guys,

778
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.239
you know, they go to work
every day. And those are some

779
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:06.920
really really good places. I mean, if you if you get to go

780
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.280
somewhere like that or like District sixty
eight or twenty eight, you're you're a

781
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:16.559
lucky fireman. So these guys are
vacant. Chief, No, so once

782
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:23.079
once you get there, like Dustin
Gray for example, at my station's probably

783
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:29.800
you know, he's a he's like
an eighteen year firefighter. Wally Fleming is

784
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.880
a twenty year firefighter. I mean
Wally Hayes. I'm sorry, well I'm

785
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:37.760
working with Wally flyn Day. But
Wally Hayes is a you know, over

786
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:42.760
twenty year firefighter. Shrover Marilo's both
been in the district their entire careers.

787
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.719
And then the other guys are looking
at about fourteen or fifteen. They just

788
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:50.119
nobody comes and goes. So once
you get there, you want to stay

789
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:53.199
there. No. No, always
answered a good question. I was saying,

790
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:59.159
is there any vacants as far as
like building building still? Oh?

791
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.159
Yes, yeah, we have lots. Yeah, we have a lot there.

792
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:07.679
Huh yeah we do, so we
don't. The city is not zoned

793
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:14.039
well, and so you could have
a you know, you could have a

794
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:17.199
high rise and right next to it
you could have a muffler shop, or

795
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.599
you could have a you know,
a nice home, and right behind it

796
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.679
you could have a chemical plan.
And then we do have a lot of

797
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:30.440
vacant homes and a lot of boarded
up homes. They don't really they don't

798
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:34.880
really take them down often, you
know what I ask you. Chiefly during

799
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:37.920
it seems like during the sixties to
seventies or early eighties where the war is.

800
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.639
Did they have the war years in
Houston as well? During those they

801
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.480
did? And it was whenever they
were cutting a freeway, they were cutting

802
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:51.719
a freeway through sevens eights and forty
sixties district. It's two eighty eight.

803
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:55.400
It's the main road. And that
was in the late eighties and early nineties,

804
00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.639
and those guys were going to fires, you know, four and five

805
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.079
a day while they weren't cutting that
way through town, and they were just

806
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.000
I think they were just burning those
houses down to where they could get the

807
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:09.559
road to go through. Oh,
you don't want to sell us to us,

808
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:13.960
all right, a little out there, it's uh. And then after

809
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:19.199
the hurricane we had a pretty good
stint of like they were getting to turn

810
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.000
them back on and I guess the
insurance jobs and stuff. We were making

811
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:27.480
fires just you know, constantly.
But compared to your guys' war years,

812
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.719
it would have to be the late
eighties and early nineties. Really, Yeah,

813
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.400
If I had a son and I
was was going to Houston. Which

814
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.440
firehouse would if I thought sixty eight
or fifty one? There's no question.

815
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:44.760
Yeah, you can send them over
there. You got a bunch of guys

816
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.519
that loved going to work. Uh. They were they were treating good.

817
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:53.719
They were anything in the world.
You know. We get visitors come all

818
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:58.360
the time and they're like, man, we just thought you were joking about

819
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.400
the way you guys train them.
Like these guys are These guys are all

820
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:04.480
business all right. So when me
and Louis come there in March, where

821
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:08.199
we going sixty eight? Sixty eight? Roofie, you're ready for sixty eight?

822
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:13.199
Any good coach over there? I'm
sorry, ay, good coachs because

823
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.320
we got to be fed the right
way. You know, we have really

824
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.400
good cooks. And usually when we
have visitors, we usually get steaks.

825
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:23.239
You know we are from We'll spread
out for you will buy the steaks.

826
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:29.119
Yes, we'll promise you will have
a good times by the stakes. Cool?

827
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:35.719
Did Louis grow some hard his head
from here to here all of a

828
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:37.320
sudden. I don't believe all the
hype. There's a lot of hot air.

829
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:42.679
I've been on the receiving and I'm
blessed. It's the new roofie is

830
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.519
what it is. Bro, And
I got I got eleven right here for

831
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.159
us guys. Everybody's like semi truck, semi truck. Let's go. I

832
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:52.280
got you right here, show me
that's it all way. That thing is

833
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:58.320
fucking cud. Yeah you love?
Are you rolling that thing? Yes?

834
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:05.440
That's it's probably the world of a
freeway right now making a run. That's

835
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:12.159
crazy. The number eleven is right
there. We carry a boat there and

836
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.360
so we could have that boat blown
up with a boat motor on it within

837
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:20.880
like maybe four or five minutes.
Wow. Does that to turn down a

838
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.480
block? Like? Man, it's
those guys are driving are good? You

839
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:30.920
know, I wouldn't want to have
it dy put that back. Where are

840
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:32.519
the guys sitting in that day,
Bro? In the cab they're on the

841
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:39.639
front the full cab. Oh ship
that day is huge. You know what's

842
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:44.719
crazy is it's not only the whole
back section. It's like a little section

843
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.840
on the back right in the middle. Right. Yeah, that's crazy.

844
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.800
Yeah, it's a it's something else. You know. In the Houston Fire

845
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:58.039
Department, we have apparatus day on
Mondays. We have to clean all the

846
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:01.960
apparatus tools. That's a bugger.
So we split that up between several days,

847
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:05.320
like one day we do our roads, you know, one day we

848
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:09.920
do this. You got a bathroom
of that thing? What's going on?

849
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:14.480
Buck, that's what it's called.
Yeah, what's the other rescue that you

850
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.760
have over? I'm sorry, what's
the rescue? Oh? The other rescues

851
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:23.960
are just like the ones you guys
have with rescue forty two? Is we

852
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:28.679
call it the fast truck rescue tens
of fast truck and then rescue eleven.

853
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:30.800
That's a track. See if you
can find out so you can just compare

854
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:36.039
what it is that Is that the
only rescue that you know of that's like

855
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:43.400
that, Yes, that's the only
one I know we carry. We carry

856
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:46.280
assortment of structural collapse material in there
at the same time, you know,

857
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:51.119
and we're going through a lot of
building construction things, a lot of trench.

858
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:55.000
We carry a lot of trench rescue
stuff on it, so that you

859
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:58.840
know, when the guys put it
together. I think they did a good

860
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.639
job putting that together. Where are
they're basic firefighting tools when they show up

861
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.320
to a job. Is it in
the cab that they're sitting in. Yes,

862
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:10.280
so we keep those in the cab
with us. You know. Uh,

863
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:13.280
they might have to get a saw
when they get out, but as

864
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:17.679
far as you know, the halligan, the the axes and things like that,

865
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:19.920
we carry our on and we a
lot of us carry our on personal

866
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.559
tools. And like I carried a
six foot New York cook with me.

867
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:29.760
That was my that's what I liked. And so but then you know,

868
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.320
whoever is there, they like their
own personal tool. We don't really have

869
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.440
like you know, like for example, you guys have somebody on the cans.

870
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:40.079
We really don't do that. We
Uh well, I was gonna ask

871
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:45.480
you how many guys I'm sorry,
how many guys right on that ring?

872
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:51.400
Oh? So that one has five? So there's there's three firefighters, a

873
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:57.719
chauffeur and an officer on that one. Yes, right, And if they

874
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:02.079
carry their that's what they're regular.
That's the fast truck. So what what

875
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:04.440
do you call it? The fast
truck? They go to every job as

876
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:09.840
a fast truck. So I'm not
sure. That was way before I came

877
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.840
along, and I think it was
just because they didn't want to call it

878
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.639
the little truck since we had the
big truck. So they still getting called

879
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:21.719
it a fast truck, and the
third rescue looks like that one. Yeah,

880
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.480
and so forty twos is identical setup
to that. And then of course

881
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:30.840
you know we have our boats and
they have jet skis and things like that.

882
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:40.360
How long has eleven been a tractor
trailer way before? Wait, before

883
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:44.159
I went to rescue, it's been
that way, so, but I'm not

884
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:47.119
sure. Let me try. How
do you fit that in the fucking firehouse?

885
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.679
Yeah, you don't close the bay
doors in the back, so as

886
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:54.639
you came around, you run through
the may word the bat today's open?

887
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.079
Is it really? Yeah? I
guess you can in Houston, right,

888
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:04.559
it's all the yeah, bigger stuff
in Texas. Cool? They say bigger

889
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:09.519
in Texas, right, Bro?
I was someone just said they think Portland

890
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:13.480
has one like that, So maybe
there was a couple. I think Portland's

891
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:18.920
is it said that they have a
killer rescue. Actually it's not attractor trailer,

892
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.480
it's an actual tiller. Oh check
it out, tank, look at

893
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:27.159
it? Look it up from I'm
trying to missus Procaccini's husband saying that the

894
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:30.039
belief Portland has one. Do you
want to see that truck too? Yeah?

895
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:35.440
Bro, I got you. Well, y'all keep talking. Let me

896
01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:43.960
do my looking off. You're looking
bro so as you do in the senior

897
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.599
captain is in or eleven. I
was either three or four years and then

898
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:51.079
I went to chief. So you
went to a lot of work there,

899
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:56.920
no doubt, yes, yes,
And how do they operate the rescues?

900
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:00.800
So we operated a little bit different
you guys like you know, like you

901
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.360
guys just go on scene and you're
going to do whatever needs to be done.

902
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:09.039
We usually get an assignment from the
chief and he'll make us like a

903
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:15.239
forward rid And depending on what chief
we ran with too, but you know,

904
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.360
like Chief Miller, for example,
in the downtown area, if we

905
01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:21.400
made if we made something, he
would he would assign us to a surge

906
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:26.400
or to help somebody do something.
If we made a high rise, we

907
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.559
would usually go to the firefloor and
we'd get a good look at the fire

908
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:31.960
floor and then we may go above
to see what it looked like. And

909
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:36.760
but but usually it was an assignment
that the chief gave us. Right,

910
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:41.280
so you're at the chief discretion really, yes, yes, and then a

911
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:44.039
lot of times you just be rid. Like if you make a small house

912
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:45.679
fire and you get there, they
would make you rid because they try to

913
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:49.239
turn to rescue truck loose as soon
as they can and get them back in

914
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:54.320
service. What positions do they have
on the rescue? What are they?

915
01:07:54.960 --> 01:08:00.000
So you have a chauffeur, a
captain and three firefighters. So the firefight

916
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:04.280
that set behind me with Sammy Castaneda
and me and him stayed together at all

917
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:11.199
costs. And then Foster Sauntoast was
our senior guy. And everything that we

918
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:15.559
did, like if we did a
high angle rescue, Foster would give it

919
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:18.600
the nod that yeah, the ropes
are tied or let's redo this. And

920
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:23.279
so before I would do anything,
I would look at Foster. You know,

921
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:30.119
he's old school and his arms are
like this, and he and then

922
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:35.800
then Anthony Abbott and the chauffe Patrick
Corton. They would usually do a three

923
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:39.800
sixty and soft of the building up
and then they'd catch up to Sammy and

924
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:45.239
so. But yeah, Foster was
he was the brains of the operation.

925
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:49.319
I just kind of did whatever Foster
said. What anythink you caught the most

926
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:56.199
works? Oh, I say,
as an engine captain and that was my

927
01:08:56.279 --> 01:09:01.000
most favorite job. I'll be honest
with you. I love the engine you

928
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:03.920
know, if if I didn't want
to work in the fire department for forty

929
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:08.520
or forty five years, I would
still be on the engine. But I

930
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.920
needn't want to stay a long time, so I promoted. But yeah,

931
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:14.800
I did more work as an engine
cabin. It's still fun, you know.

932
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.239
Uh man, this is something like
pulling a hose off of fire truck

933
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:23.880
and squirt water. I don't know. Well, they got ready, you

934
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:28.000
got it. They've had it.
Boys. Go it's a tailler and it's

935
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:31.800
kind of knuckle boom crane the ca
what is that? Yep, that's a

936
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:39.079
knuckle boom crane. Behind the knuckle
boom crane it come it's like I don't

937
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:42.199
know what that word is, but
like comes out like that. You can't

938
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:45.600
see me what it comes out like
that? And what does it do?

939
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:51.159
It's a crane for what I don't
know. Maybe they go to crane operations.

940
01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:56.079
Important. Obviously they needed it.
Ah ok, they had a little

941
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:59.800
extra money back then for the boat
or something. Wah too. Bro didn't

942
01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:04.359
even to rescue. It's a wow, that's crazy. That's interesting, man.

943
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:08.680
How many different drinks through our rescue
A visit, I'll take care or

944
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:12.199
let you look at it, well, do we're coming, bro, You've

945
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:15.600
been a dude. I want that
hood. I want to stink. I

946
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:18.960
want to go to fire bro me
Roofie are going to be forcing doors?

947
01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:25.000
Like Chief who is uh? If
you had to think, who is the

948
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:30.319
most influential guy in your career?
So I emulated my career actor as Keith

949
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:34.760
Hooker, So I had a bunch. So Chief Phillips was a big inspiration

950
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:39.000
to me. I'll tell you a
story about him in a second. But

951
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:42.880
Chief Miller, you know I looked
at those guys when they were firefighters.

952
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:48.119
Of course, Captain Jenkins and Captain
Curtis most senior captain. And the reason

953
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:51.239
I say that is they put a
lot of time and effort into me when

954
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:57.479
they didn't have to. You know, it's a they really really dedicated and

955
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:02.239
Captain Jenkins trained us so well.
But yeah, I had so many mentors

956
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:08.279
I looked up to because I wanted
to look out. And one of the

957
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:12.960
best speeches I ever had in my
career that made me stay straight. So

958
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.399
when I took the Captain's test,
so we take a test. You know

959
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:20.479
there's about a thousand or fifteen hundred
people taking it, maybe two thousand,

960
01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:25.560
I don't remember. So you come
out and your chief's there and they've got

961
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:28.399
a notepad like this, and they're
like, how'd you do? And so

962
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:31.159
they're getting numbers, and so my
chief saw me. He goes, how'd

963
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:32.960
you do? I said, did
good? He goes, what does that

964
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.279
mean? What number are you?
And I told him, I said,

965
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:39.840
I'm going to get promoted on the
first go round. And so Chief Phillips

966
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.960
was there. Chief Phillips told my
chief, Chief Hugery goes, Fred,

967
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.239
I've got him. So he walked
me to my car, which was several

968
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:50.159
blocks away, and he pretty much
laid the law down to me that they

969
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:58.560
invested lots of time into me and
they would come get me if I failed

970
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.520
them, and said, you better
never let us down. You better never

971
01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:05.000
forget you're here for the citizens.
You better never forget you're here for the

972
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:10.479
men that work under you. And
so he gave me this mentor speech that

973
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:13.640
I remember from like two thousand and
four, two thousand and five when I

974
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:19.880
made captain and I got to do
a podcast with him actually on national talk

975
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:25.680
radio, and I got to tell
him personally that how much I appreciated that

976
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:29.119
talk. And I never told him
that, and I got to tell him

977
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:33.520
to his face that I still remembered
him walking me down the street telling me

978
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:39.239
that I better not let them down. And I hope I never have,

979
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:42.479
you know. I try to still
think about the values those guys gave me.

980
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.720
And you know, there's simple values. It's just if you're an officer,

981
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:50.279
take care of your guys, and
then your guys take care of the

982
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:55.600
civilians and so so yeah, I
had a lot, and I hope I

983
01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.359
didn't let any of them down,
you know. And I still call him

984
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:00.159
from time to time to ask him, you know, what was you do

985
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:01.279
for this? Or what did you
do for this? Or you're having a

986
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:03.439
bad day. It's kind of nice
to, you know, talk to one

987
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:11.279
of the guys that so Chief Miller
still in but the rest of them are

988
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.760
all gone. You know, I
miss him. I miss him a lot,

989
01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:17.239
you know. Katam Jenkins, we
used to we never slept. We

990
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:21.079
were always up, we were always
awake, and we drank coffee and we

991
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:26.600
just sat we talked and we were
making runs and just the once you could

992
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:30.760
get you know, people talk about
the people talk about the kitchen table,

993
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:35.199
and that's so true. It would
be four o'clock in the morning, and

994
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:40.119
then he would be telling you something
that happened back in the seventies or eighties

995
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:43.359
when he was in and he wanted
you to you know, he just wanted

996
01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:46.760
you to be better. And uh, he never never shut us down.

997
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:51.560
It was just just I don't know. I'm a lucky guy. I guess

998
01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.880
that's the best way I can say. I can sit here and tell you

999
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:59.800
fifty or sixty people, but I
guess you know, I'm just a lucky

1000
01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:04.000
guy. Yeah. I've never worked
around with slug. I've always worked around

1001
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:09.119
Topknox people. From the first day
I got in the fire department to the

1002
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:13.279
day when I go into firehouse,
I'm scared I'm gonna let somebody down.

1003
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:16.000
And so now I've got a bunch
of people underneath me that I would let

1004
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:21.800
down for a million bucks. Chief
we had many done. Chief done on

1005
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.600
the show a couple of times.
Yeah, And at the end of the

1006
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:29.000
show he said something the first I
think it was the Faker. We had

1007
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.000
him on a few shows because he
had such an incredible legendary career, but

1008
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:38.239
he said being on the job was
like being on a magic carpet ride,

1009
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:40.880
and that you know, like when
you say, like how lucky you are,

1010
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:44.680
right, like, how it's not
until your career, it's towards the

1011
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:51.000
end that you or over said he
realized that roof that was his last tour,

1012
01:14:51.079 --> 01:14:55.319
right he was looking out it was
and going, he said. He

1013
01:14:55.920 --> 01:15:00.000
the window was fogged up. He
I mean, you can't ask for more.

1014
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.119
And he thought about how many people
have looked because that window hundred years

1015
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:11.119
old, how many people have looked
out? Oh yeah, and I'm blessed,

1016
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:14.439
you know. My my parents was
good to me and they supported me

1017
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.960
and everything. And you look when
you go down the street. And then

1018
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:21.199
my part time job was talking about
this. We had Santa on the fire

1019
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:26.439
truck and there was a little girl
out here and she was probably three years

1020
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:30.880
old and Santa crawl on the fire
truck and her legs was running in place.

1021
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:34.000
That I amount a hundred to nothing. That's what we're for, you

1022
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:39.239
know. And how many times have
you ridden down the street and every little

1023
01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:44.560
kid looked at you wanted to be
And man, you know how many of

1024
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:45.560
us are there? There's not a
lot of us when you think of how

1025
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:51.079
big society is, you know,
so uh man, yeah, And I've

1026
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:56.600
never I've never abused this job.
I will love it to the day.

1027
01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:03.159
Just face it. I loved the
Chief's opinion would change if he had to

1028
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:11.239
work with Italians all the time.
I don't think so, Brott, Chief,

1029
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.640
you ain't changing this guys. You
know, I'll tell you something.

1030
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:17.920
Every time I've been up there to
visit you guys, y'all have been so

1031
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:23.399
nae to me. I mean I
got to see some some of the coolest

1032
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:27.960
stuff, you know, and man, you guys are you guys are welcoming,

1033
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:34.239
you know. And I met a
chief at squad to seventy and well

1034
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:38.239
his ideal back that he was telling
me how he keeps his man power.

1035
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:42.359
I knew that in the mornings now. So we're all the same. Yeah,

1036
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:45.600
I don't care where we're at.
You go to Atlanta, wherever you

1037
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:49.399
go, where the we're the same
people. And to be in this country.

1038
01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:54.199
You go anywhere in the world and
guys are the same bro Yep,

1039
01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.800
no doubt. So you become chief, right, I don't think that will

1040
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:04.720
ever happen. You're not a chief, you're chief. Oh yeah, I

1041
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:08.279
Chief. I'm like, yeah,
I don't think that. I don't know,

1042
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:15.960
chief, District chief. Yeah,
we've talked about it, Michelle,

1043
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:20.039
Where does this controversy start? When? How does this uh head budding start?

1044
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:25.800
Where? I think it's always been
that way, And I think that's

1045
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:29.199
for my dad. You know.
My dad's a big union guy, and

1046
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:34.479
my dad said that you always have
to take time to stand up for somebody

1047
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:39.880
that's not being treated right. So
I think it's always been the course of

1048
01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:45.399
my my career. But whenever I
became a chief, I just was able

1049
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:47.800
and lucky enough to protect a whole
lot more guys, you know. And

1050
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:55.760
I think that sometimes you may have
to make yourself look like a fool to

1051
01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:59.319
let people know that you care about
them. And how else can you let

1052
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:03.000
a fireman know you care about them
other than standing up for them. And

1053
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:06.000
you're like, na, that's not
gonna happen to them, or you know,

1054
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:10.760
not does happened in your case?
Because I was watching a couple of

1055
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:15.319
like, I said, you things
and you didn't say who it was,

1056
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.880
but you said you actually liked this
guy, but you were opposed to him,

1057
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.479
So who are you talking about?
It was the fire chief. It

1058
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:25.880
was a fire chief, okay,
and so and we were just making a

1059
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:30.479
lot of changes that I thought was
bad for us. And then they talked

1060
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:36.079
about laying some kids off, and
so I just didn't feel like that was

1061
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:40.600
right. And you know, you
take a kid that came in the fire

1062
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:45.840
department and he's probably wanted his whole
life, and then they talk about laying

1063
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:51.199
them off and just because they're in
a contract dispute, and I just I

1064
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:55.880
just didn't buy that, and so
I had to say something, you know,

1065
01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:00.199
and it's a yeah, I don't
know, you know, you need

1066
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:02.159
to have to say that. But
at the same time, you wanted those

1067
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.640
two hundred and forty kids that was
going to get laid off to say,

1068
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:09.000
hey, man, at least one
person here thinks about me, one person

1069
01:19:09.079 --> 01:19:15.199
cares about me. And so yeah, it was never anything personal, but

1070
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:19.359
it was one hundred percent that they'll
go somewhere else as a job. But

1071
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:27.119
those two hundred young rookie firefighters will
remember for the next and I hope to

1072
01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:31.640
work about another fifteen years, So
the next fifteen years, they'll say,

1073
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.359
man, you know what, Mo
Davis cared about me. Mo Davis was

1074
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.159
more worried about me than he was
his career. And I think that's good

1075
01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:45.239
and it's not patting me on the
back by no means. It's probably a

1076
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:47.439
tribute to my dad, you know, and my mom and dad was like,

1077
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:49.159
you got to stand up for it, and you know, I think

1078
01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:53.399
that's what fire would do. We
protect the week, you know, we

1079
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:58.279
when the kids, when the kids
laid in a causet and a kid's burning,

1080
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:04.680
that's our out. We have to
protect that kid. And if you

1081
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:08.760
if you don't have the guts to
do that, then you got to get

1082
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:13.600
out. And that's why I say
I hate cowards that wear our uniform.

1083
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.439
And you know we should come up
with a sign on the fire truck no

1084
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:25.439
cowards allowed. It was period,
so bro, there was coops, there

1085
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:30.199
was you remember Monday, right,
Yeah. So every time, like in

1086
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:31.479
the firehouse, they would, you
know, they'd start like the chief was

1087
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:34.560
saying, this guy who wasn't that
quick witted or whatever, and they used

1088
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:38.279
to you know, it was a
little dog pound on the rabbit. And

1089
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:41.199
I always used to come in and
I used to kind of stand up for

1090
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:44.640
the guy, you know, whoever
it was, and he used to go

1091
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:45.479
like this, I'm gonna try to
see if I can do it. Used

1092
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:48.319
to go like this, he used
to do this as a cake he goes

1093
01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:51.199
up, here comes Roughy defender of
the week. That's what he used to

1094
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:56.800
say all the time. It comes
Roughy flying in defender of the used to

1095
01:20:56.800 --> 01:21:00.359
do the you know, like the
cape flying. You know, that's what

1096
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:02.119
the guys, all these people have
been telling me, bro like, you

1097
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:09.960
stand up for the guys against the
higher ups. Which, yeah, it's

1098
01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:15.279
it's the right thing to do.
It's the right you know what. As

1099
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:19.439
a matter of fact, Tank,
I think we have a video of him

1100
01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:24.359
standing up for the guys bro right, I think so, maybe I think

1101
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:26.520
we do. Hold on, watch
this. I think this was you.

1102
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:31.479
I think this was you talking to
the chiefs. Do you know who I

1103
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:35.359
am? I'm I made my bones
when you were going out with cheerleaders.

1104
01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:54.319
Wait a minute more, I was
so horrible I made that Davis probably made

1105
01:21:54.359 --> 01:21:58.039
my bones when you were banging fucking
cheering. That's what you said to the

1106
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:04.640
chief, right, And I like, yeah, it's yeah, if we

1107
01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:09.359
got you. And I know you
guys do too. I mean, you

1108
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:14.399
know, it's a it's just the
right thing to do. So you're never

1109
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:16.840
going to be a big chief.
I don't think so. I know,

1110
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:23.000
I probably I've probably ruined my career. So many times I feel that I

1111
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:27.520
feel that it's uh, it's okay, though you know it's a I don't

1112
01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:30.720
know. I like going to fires
anyway. You know what if I if

1113
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:38.840
I could be, if I could
be a really good one, you know,

1114
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:42.720
I would, I wouldn't mind it. But I don't know, you

1115
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:45.239
know, you at that level,
I don't know how protection you can you

1116
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:50.640
can be for the guys, you
know, So I don't know. It's

1117
01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:56.640
a probably not though you know I
like them on dirty shirts, you know.

1118
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.279
Captain Dugan told me one time we
were talking and I ask you what

1119
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:05.199
he missed about the fire station so
much as your tire, who's doing it,

1120
01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:12.840
Mike meting from you, from you
guys. Yeah, it's a that's

1121
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.760
a that's another guy that matters.
Loved that guy. So he told me,

1122
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:18.840
said mo, he said, I
miss getting the fire truck and turn

1123
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:23.560
around looking at the guys when they
had a good old snotty fire and I

1124
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:27.239
do and I locked it and then
you come out and your own dirty and

1125
01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:30.359
stink, and you know, you
go home and you stink. I love

1126
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:34.079
it. It's a yeah, you're
like that, You're I was gonna say,

1127
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:36.880
we got more pictures. I said
to this guy before the pre show

1128
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:41.520
roof, I said, you must
have like fifty uniforms in your locker and

1129
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:45.720
all picture. You're all started up. Let's go through them tight, all

1130
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:50.119
right? That's it when somebody text
me is giving me a hard time?

1131
01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:54.960
Who's giving you a hard time?
I don't know. It's like somebody's like,

1132
01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:58.359
hey man, it's but you know, if I could be like Chief

1133
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:02.560
Richardson like you guys have, I
would probably be a fire chief. Then

1134
01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:05.319
hey, Chief, tell me what
this guy's saying to you right now is

1135
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:11.279
giving you the stink face. So
yeah, media were actually friends, but

1136
01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:15.640
he wanted us to have a rehab
set up, and uh, they wouldn't

1137
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:18.079
setting the rehab up fast enough.
And you can see my old buddy right

1138
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:20.520
there behind me, Hire and he's
got his head down because he knows I'm

1139
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:26.560
getting a good chewing and my shirt
got a little dirty. And then uh,

1140
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:30.880
the guys that are back life and
but yeah, he was pretty hard

1141
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:34.920
the rehab. Look at her face, bro, he's like, listen to

1142
01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:40.640
him, Davis, Chief Norman jan
She said, he said, great man,

1143
01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:44.239
great show. Thank you. That's
someone else that I think a lot

1144
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:47.239
of it's uh kind an operation.
I don't already had done that. I

1145
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:53.439
think he had his hip or his
knee or something. So you had some

1146
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:56.840
more dirty pictures ship unders. This
guy's got more dirty uniforms and you can

1147
01:24:56.920 --> 01:25:00.840
chig a stick out, bro.
He must have just come from a job

1148
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:04.039
right then. Yeah, So I'm
looking up at the guys and they won't

1149
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:09.079
know why I'm laughing so much after
just just working so hard, and I'm

1150
01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:14.319
like, who wouldn't want to be
here? Now you're in rescue of loving

1151
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:16.159
there right, rescue eleven. Yes, I think that's that picture of Rescue

1152
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:21.359
eleven. We'd made a high rise
and I'm ninety nine percent sure that's where

1153
01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:26.159
that was at, and it's probably, I guess ten years ago. I

1154
01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:30.079
was a little bit skinnier back then, I guess, and actually a good

1155
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:35.239
friend of mine, if I'm remembering
correctly, was a chief and his chief

1156
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:41.239
fisher, and he just kept giving
me weird assignments, and I just kept

1157
01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:42.640
doing that. I was standing in
my head. I was like, man,

1158
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:45.479
this is a weird assignment. I'd
come back. Then he asked me

1159
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:47.359
to go back to do like for
once I went to check hip the sprinklers

1160
01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:50.119
was working at the other end of
the hall. Then he wouldn't know if

1161
01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:53.479
if it had a drain down there, and didn't want to know this.

1162
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:56.079
And then finally he goes goes,
how long is he going to take if

1163
01:25:56.119 --> 01:26:00.359
you realize that I'm messing with you? So he's just like walking through the

1164
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:03.199
smoke. But and so I'm looking
up and I'm lifing. So they're like,

1165
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:08.359
how can you be so happy?
I'm like, yeah, pretty good.

1166
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:11.600
Yeah, listen, what temperature did
you use on that one? Bro?

1167
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.279
I'm sorry, what temperature did you
use? Temperature? Yeah on that

1168
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:20.520
helmet? Oh man, when I
was when was it forty six? Is

1169
01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:25.560
we went to work a lot and
that was my p Yeah, that's my

1170
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:28.439
pride and joy. They wouldn't,
they wouln't let us wear that now.

1171
01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:30.920
But I love that helmet. If
you don't have to explain to nobody know

1172
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:34.880
about that helmet? Where is it? Yeah? Is it my house?

1173
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:41.680
I know it was, Bro,
I wish. I don't know. I'm

1174
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:43.600
not a big n F P A
fan. I don't know if you'all can

1175
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:47.000
tell or not, but you're not. Yeah, sometimes sometimes they're getting our

1176
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:53.279
way over. This man's all about
going on another picture. We got a

1177
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.960
whole bunch of picks, didn't we
Yeah, we did you. Here's one

1178
01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:59.840
we didn't show in the pre show. A good friend of mine and the

1179
01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:02.000
chiefs and he'll he'll probably know who's
saying it when I show it, but

1180
01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:09.239
we'll see how it goes. This
is a helmet camp picture from our boy

1181
01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:14.720
John nanninga so the sixty engine and
that's him and his crew and they're on

1182
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:19.760
air and I've seen the video standing
there chief mode just like, hey boys,

1183
01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:27.239
it's good feeling. Its conserving air. Yeah, save your freaking air

1184
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.359
man? What's that? How many
things got to get in there and see

1185
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:33.600
what's going on? Man? No, maybe we shouldn't show that. Cool,

1186
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:38.119
Maybe we shouldn't. Yeah, why
don't you keep showing? Yeah,

1187
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:45.159
we'll put it back up. Tank
another one attack, but he got that.

1188
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.840
We got a couple. We got
a couple. Let's go through.

1189
01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:59.800
Uh So this guy they weh we
made a run south of us and there

1190
01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:03.880
was the chief wanted to go defensive
on this and the guys were working good.

1191
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:11.000
There's a good audio video audio that
I'll see you and the chiefs like,

1192
01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:13.000
mo, you think we need to
go defensive. So now they got

1193
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:14.720
it. He goes, I don't
know, I think we need to go

1194
01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.520
defensive. So I think we got
it. And then Cavin Schroeder was working

1195
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:20.920
hard and you know, you see
the sky, so you're not gonna get

1196
01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:25.359
hurt, and so he so he
stopped talking to me and started talking to

1197
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:28.600
the safety officer. So I ran
downstairs, and that's me coming out,

1198
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:30.279
telling the safety officer, you do
not pull these guys out. They got

1199
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:34.199
it, and so, uh no, that's what that one was. And

1200
01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:41.000
the guy behind me is my driver. You're told you let him pull us

1201
01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:44.960
out. You're a chief dead,
telling me I guess another chief that we

1202
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.880
got it right, because how many
times, chief, just give us two

1203
01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:50.279
more minutes? We got it.
We got it. Ye can see it

1204
01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:55.680
and see it. They get it. Yeah, they got it. Yeah

1205
01:28:56.680 --> 01:29:01.039
fine, it wasn't that fine.
You know it's uh Schrogan Mario was up

1206
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:03.239
there. I wasn't worried about nothing. I'm like, hey, these guys

1207
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:10.399
got this, so uh yeah,
good for you. Go ahead. I

1208
01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:14.840
mean, uh thanks, a working
boys. Yeah, I'd say that bro,

1209
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:16.479
he steals lines, he steal saw
us. I say, he's a

1210
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:19.880
working boys. So the guys put
that on my helmet for me, so

1211
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:23.760
I think that's pretty cool. I
guess they like it. Is that your

1212
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:28.159
chiefs helmet? Yes, sir,
Holy ship Man, that's pretty spunky,

1213
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:31.479
right, Rof. That's old school
like, and he's got the old school

1214
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:41.199
like. I love be ing fireman
man. Oh. I love for Christmases

1215
01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:46.439
to be who's that old guy with
the glasses. Yeah, I was teaching

1216
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:50.520
a class in Florida there. I
don't know. I don't even know what

1217
01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:54.720
we were talking about, but it
was what part of Florida are we in?

1218
01:29:55.359 --> 01:29:59.399
Was in Pittacola at the County Fire
Tactics. He puts on a really

1219
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:04.640
good conference here you get around.
I'm very lucky like that. Shout out

1220
01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:08.359
to Jillian Stewart. I may or
may not have took that picture from her,

1221
01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:15.520
but she's cool. She don't care. We were talking about what's he's

1222
01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:18.840
gonna be out fd C. He
said something like he's gonna buy Louis some

1223
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:21.960
dinner or something. I don't know
what he was talking about. So as

1224
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:30.279
long as you don't cramp up,
you got balk uh tank. Let me

1225
01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:34.079
see what you got. The same
conference, the same thing we were talking

1226
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:40.840
about. Search and rescue. Yeah, yes, that is a third story

1227
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:45.119
balcony on a hotel. So that's
a thirty five footer to the third story

1228
01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:48.920
balcony. And these instructors, as
a student in that class with them,

1229
01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:53.159
let me just tell you what those
guys did for us. Right, we

1230
01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:55.800
got this hotel and they were tearing
it down, and I think the only

1231
01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:59.760
things we couldn't do were break glass
or break the main rooms to the room,

1232
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.119
the main doors to the rooms.
Other than that, we had free

1233
01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:05.720
game. And these instructors took the
weekend before the conference, in days before

1234
01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:11.359
and they built out props and so
they put a window prop on the balcony.

1235
01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:14.760
So when we came up off the
ladder, we dove into this window

1236
01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:17.199
prop and into the room, and
we had smoking everything and we were searching.

1237
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:21.039
And I don't know if my remembers
this or not, but when my

1238
01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:26.319
group got to his group, it
was he was up top and then Clyde

1239
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:29.279
Gordon, who will end up talking
about in this podcast later too, was

1240
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:31.159
on the ground and they were telling
us what the evolution was going to be,

1241
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:33.079
how we were going to go,
And then Clyde was like, who's

1242
01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:36.359
going first? And the guy one
of the guys from my group just shot

1243
01:31:36.479 --> 01:31:39.439
up and Clyde looks at me.
He said, well, Tank, I

1244
01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:41.760
guess you better get your ass up
there. I was like, oh,

1245
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.199
I guess, So, so here
I go. We dump in. My

1246
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:50.439
team's in were searching, and I
fill a bed and I go to sprawl

1247
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:55.800
out on the bed because I just
listened to uh to Champ and his story

1248
01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:58.159
about searching and you know, getting
up on the bed and making sure you

1249
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:00.279
feel and coming up and feeling for
the bunk. This is my first experience

1250
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:03.920
with doing this, my first exposure
to this. And when I dove,

1251
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:08.079
I'm assuming we're in a hotel room. I'm assuming I'm at the foot of

1252
01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:11.079
a queen bed. Well, I
was sure was on the side of a

1253
01:32:11.159 --> 01:32:14.199
twin bed. And when I zoomed
over this thing, I just zoomed over

1254
01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:16.359
the side and dumped into the bath. I was in there, and he's

1255
01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:19.159
got a thermal because it was fake
smoke, but it was stick and he's

1256
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:24.079
looking through the thermal. He's like, you're good. Good, He's like,

1257
01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:31.680
there's nobody on the bed. Good
to go bro around. Yeah,

1258
01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:36.720
we were doing man, And that's
a testament to the investment that guys like

1259
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:42.439
Moe and Clyde and Chief County Fire
Tectics and all these other great dudes are

1260
01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:47.199
putting into making us guys like me
better fireman, realistic training as possible,

1261
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:50.840
and doing it right and still loving
it and doing it. You know,

1262
01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:54.159
we still got to have a little
laugh and have a little fun in that

1263
01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:57.279
moment. And that's just a testament
to what they're doing for us and to

1264
01:32:57.359 --> 01:32:59.920
continue making a job better. I'm
blessed to be able to be a part

1265
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:02.199
of that. Yeah, I'm gonna
go on recond and said, I'm not

1266
01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:06.039
Roofie. We haven't had a guest
who smiled as much from fucking beginning to

1267
01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:12.840
end as this guy right here.
This guy loved the job. Smile a

1268
01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:16.760
lot, he did. But I
don't know, I think Chief Davis just

1269
01:33:16.840 --> 01:33:20.439
smiling the whole hell of a lot. Bera. He is excited, he

1270
01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:28.199
is. You got any other jobs
you want to share with us? Yeah?

1271
01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:32.680
I you know, man, I
was always so so lucky. Man.

1272
01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:39.319
We just it's like we always made
we always made fires, you know.

1273
01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:43.760
And so when I first made Chief, and I decided that I was

1274
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:45.800
going to stay on the southwest side
because I've never been exposed the Southwest Side.

1275
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:49.199
First of all, all the guys
were aces when I got there.

1276
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:53.439
I'm like, man, these guys
are round tight in a good way.

1277
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:59.119
So one night, I'm I'm running
a two eleven fire on this street.

1278
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:04.479
Across the street from us, there's
another too eleven fire went on. So

1279
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:10.520
the shift commander gets there and he
starts putting his board up. So he

1280
01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:13.159
gets his board put in. I'm
a young chief, and so I got

1281
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:15.680
a notepad like this. You know, I've just made a couple of notes.

1282
01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:18.439
So the chief gets everybody else.
So he leaves and goes to the

1283
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:21.800
second to eleven and takes his board, and so chief out goes, hey,

1284
01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:25.800
man, who do we have?
And I held up my notepad and

1285
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:30.039
I had like two companies on it. The shoe commander took everybody with us,

1286
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:33.960
and so before the night was over, we had a two eleven a

1287
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:38.960
too eleven, and down the street
we had another multiple alarms going on at

1288
01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:41.760
the same time. And I'm telling
those guys, I said, I'll never

1289
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:45.279
leave Southwest Side, so I'm been
there ever since. That's what we'll be

1290
01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:49.319
ruffy when we go down there.
Oh yeah, doing it all right?

1291
01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:53.840
Run out and ask you some questions
that I've asked a ton of guys,

1292
01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:57.920
including the chief of department. Got
your thinking cap on? You're ready?

1293
01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:04.720
Yeah? Firehouse meal, Bro,
I like state stay all right? Best

1294
01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:13.439
fire House movie? Uh? I
don't know something with John Wayne in it

1295
01:35:13.520 --> 01:35:16.800
though, Sean, he's going to
old school, bro, John Wayne cowboy

1296
01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:20.119
man. Come dude, I forgot
he is a cowboy. Bro. I'm

1297
01:35:20.119 --> 01:35:25.159
gon sand to Ewo Jima guy.
Actually, why do you know that about

1298
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:30.279
you? Bro? John Wayne?
That was awesome? Yeah, strike boy.

1299
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:34.399
Couldn't we use him now a little
bit? Ship man? We actually

1300
01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:36.720
talked about this in the pre show, right Bro, how we got to

1301
01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:42.239
take back the country back the fire
Department. I mean we definitely have to

1302
01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:45.239
just take it back. Yeah,
what were you what were you saying about

1303
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:46.960
it? Like we have to you
think we are actually right? Yeah,

1304
01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:50.560
we are. We're coming back.
We're coming back. It's a I don't

1305
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:54.960
I don't think for one second we're
not. Look look at what we're doing,

1306
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:58.359
and I'm looking off to the side
here, You've got thousands of people

1307
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:01.680
listen to you. We're we're we're
taking this, We're taking this profession back.

1308
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.199
You know, they set us back
a couple of years ago. And

1309
01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:08.840
I'm not gonna mention it any names
because it ruffles people's feathers. But we

1310
01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:12.239
had guys telling firemen to be nice. You don't have to tell me to

1311
01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:15.439
be nice. I'm a nice human
being because I'm a fireman. Who else

1312
01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:17.880
goes to work tomorrow morning. When
I go to work, my chances of

1313
01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:21.720
not coming home is better than coming
home. So you don't have to tell

1314
01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:26.560
me to be nas And then you
can't tell me not to go in burning

1315
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:29.760
buildings and it's going to be okay. And then you can't tell me that

1316
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:33.800
my safety is more important nerves.
So and everybody knows who I'm talking about

1317
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:40.199
without using names. We're taking it
back, man, saw it here.

1318
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:43.920
Maybe we're taking the same back,
dude, we're taking it back. That's

1319
01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:45.279
what we are for. You're here
for, Roofie, say it. We're

1320
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:50.159
taking it. Yeah, we're taking
it back. That's what we need to

1321
01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:54.640
do to get these stories. We
needed to get guys like both David's song

1322
01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:58.680
here and say we're taking this ship
back. We're taking this back. We're

1323
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:05.119
taking a fucking job back. That's
yep. Oh no Shenanigans to some glass

1324
01:37:05.279 --> 01:37:10.960
get in the building. But well, you know, cuttom holes in the

1325
01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:16.800
roof, throw whatever you gotta do. Bro, who is that? It

1326
01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:21.760
is the best job in the world, it is. Look at this guy

1327
01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:26.279
right here. Can you imagine doing
something else for a living bro? I

1328
01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:30.960
can't, no, want to no, I'd probably be these guys down the

1329
01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:35.199
street here washing glass for twenty five
says to go get something to drink if

1330
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:40.239
I didn't have a fireman's job.
All right, Bro, there is no

1331
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:43.199
better job in the world. There's
no better career. I say this all

1332
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:46.399
the time. Bro. It is
the closest, absolute, closest thing to

1333
01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:53.359
being a living superhero. It all
comes in for help. You respond,

1334
01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:56.720
You go in, right, you
put your gear on, or you put

1335
01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.800
your Batman uniform on. Right,
you're get me batmobile. You start fucking

1336
01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:05.520
riding through town to go help somebody
in need. You are an absolute superhero.

1337
01:38:06.760 --> 01:38:14.039
So that's very else of the time. You fixed the problem. That's

1338
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:19.039
that's why when you retire and you're
sitting at the table staring across from you

1339
01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:23.760
kids and like, hey dad,
get me that fucking milk out, all

1340
01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.000
right, all right, You're just
like any other asshole, right Bro.

1341
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:36.199
The Superman is gone, Oh shit, all right, I think it might

1342
01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:39.880
be. I think it might be
that time. Do you have anything else,

1343
01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:42.880
Chief, you wanted to talk about
anybody else? If I could say

1344
01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:46.720
one thing, that's something I'm passionate
about. Chief D. You guys know

1345
01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:51.800
cheaf D. Yes, you guys. You guys lost a lot of people,

1346
01:38:53.199 --> 01:38:57.479
a lot of people over the years, and we have cheap Chief Chief

1347
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:03.800
D, Lute, Jos, Jeff
Cool, you guys are doing some good

1348
01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:09.960
things for the fire service. And
I would like for everybody to try to

1349
01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:15.439
remember March in November, because you
know, the city took some ropes away

1350
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.319
from you guys, and you paid
a dear price for it, and on

1351
01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:25.800
the Black Sunday. So if guys
could just remember November in March. Every

1352
01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:30.520
year, those guys put on a
phenomenal training series and one hundred percent of

1353
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:35.039
the proceeds go to help brother firemen. And you know, they don't even

1354
01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:39.600
And I told Jeff Cool this,
and I truly meant it when I said

1355
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:43.960
that he doesn't even know how many
lives he's probably saved by doing that.

1356
01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:47.439
And so the bailout systems and stuff, they donate all the money too.

1357
01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:54.119
So I would just like for people
just to remember that. Secondly, we

1358
01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:58.560
got to remember that we're into this
for the citizens we serve. I mean,

1359
01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.479
it's cool and all that, we've
got to remember those poor people need

1360
01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:04.439
us. And then at the last
one, we gotta love this job and

1361
01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:09.439
love each other, you know,
when you were life and earlier. When

1362
01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:13.800
I call you brother, When I
call you brother, I truly mean you're

1363
01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:17.520
my brother. And then if you're
not into that and you're in the fire

1364
01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:20.560
service, get out because we don't
want you. You know, if you're

1365
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:24.560
that three foot inside the door,
three foot to the rock where it's safe,

1366
01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:28.720
where you can get out, we
don't want you. Get you know,

1367
01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:33.399
don't make yeah, exactly. So
that's what I would say to the

1368
01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:36.680
guys. And just if you're good
to this job, man, it's going

1369
01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:40.359
to be good to you. It's
going to be good to you. And

1370
01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:44.159
man, just fire like a wild
command the Indian every time you make a

1371
01:40:44.279 --> 01:40:47.920
run, and you're going to pay
dividends. Yeah. I think that was

1372
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:53.640
this old school Tipic speak speaking to
yos. We got coming on the twenty

1373
01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:58.520
eighth, Kevin Yos, it's a
twenty guy. Yeah, you guys throw

1374
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:01.760
a rock set I don't know,
all right, So let'sten. I was

1375
01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:04.680
told I was told to ask you
you guys, and I don't even know

1376
01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:09.079
how I got set up with this. Were you guys on paid units?

1377
01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:12.600
Were you all right? I don't
hear what he said? We all what?

1378
01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:18.800
Well? Was that real said?
Yeah, you got a cancelation for

1379
01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:21.359
yours? I think that's what?
What what you say? Are well?

1380
01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:29.279
What on a paid paid unit?
Paid unit? Yos? Who? What?

1381
01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:33.560
Kevin? Who? Anybody? Anybody
available? We got the twenty eighth

1382
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:39.680
open. Anybody want to come up? Now? I think it's time.

1383
01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:44.760
Tank. You ready, I'm ready. I think it's time for I'm not

1384
01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:47.439
saying it's not ready, all right, So Tank's time ready. I'll play

1385
01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:50.119
it again. Hold on a minute. I think he gave its old school

1386
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:54.800
no, we guys got another one. This guy, this guy's smiley Mo.

1387
01:41:55.039 --> 01:42:00.880
Smiley Mo's got I'm ready for real. Now now it's time for the

1388
01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:12.279
old school tip of the day day. Go to work every single day ready

1389
01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:15.479
to make a fire. Having the
back of your mind you're going to make

1390
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:23.199
one, and then when you do, you will be ready. I like

1391
01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:27.000
it. Louis learned that that lesson
the hard way when Captain Murphy gave him

1392
01:42:27.039 --> 01:42:33.600
the fucking steak. Right, look, our first run is the squad first

1393
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:41.079
round mobile was going to be a
yeah, and he had his fucking hood

1394
01:42:41.159 --> 01:42:44.279
on ready to go, and he
pulled over the rig. Right, He's

1395
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:46.600
like everybody out of the rate.
Half the guys weren't. At least I

1396
01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:50.239
had my stuff on someone, but
none of the guys else. And he

1397
01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:56.000
said, you know, you're gonna
respond as if there's a fire every time

1398
01:42:56.039 --> 01:43:00.399
we go over the worst case scenario
every time we go like you're a affecting

1399
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:03.840
the worst case scenario every time.
And from that time on, I was

1400
01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:09.359
always prepared. Always there really was. I have to say that that's not

1401
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:13.640
even like a bullshit thing. I
was always ready. Yeah, you're ready,

1402
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:15.920
man, That's why you were successful. You know, let's look at

1403
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:19.359
your career. Pretty good career,
he did, all right, mediocre.

1404
01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:25.399
You can't go roll in mediocre,
right because you're neutral? Then right?

1405
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:29.079
Yeah, nice, you had a
good career, bro, I mean Canada

1406
01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:31.560
ninety one o three came back to
the squad. You did, you did

1407
01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:38.439
good. I'm not saying that year, my buddy, Chief Chief Davis,

1408
01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:41.039
thanks for coming on, man.
I left my think you guys, this

1409
01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:43.680
meant a lot to me and it
was a lot of fun. Really,

1410
01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:46.520
you really touched a lot of chords
any tonight, probably, I hope.

1411
01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:49.000
I hope. Brother. Yeah,
man, And we'll see you out in

1412
01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:53.439
ft I c when when you're buying
dinner. It'll be great, man,

1413
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:03.239
Crystal. Was we tell all wise
we're going out to Nathan's every night.

1414
01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:08.319
Meanwhile we're going out. Yeah.
It's like my wife calls, She's like,

1415
01:44:08.359 --> 01:44:09.800
what do you guys doing tonight.
I'm like, yeah, we're going

1416
01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:12.319
to Auby's in a little while.
She's like, you are not. Yeah,

1417
01:44:12.399 --> 01:44:16.520
what do you think? We got
a yagg you wag you tomahawks about

1418
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:25.840
this big plate I got? Yeah, I was the how was the ho

1419
01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:30.600
was the aubis? I was a
little n They have the fine? Yeah

1420
01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:36.520
you when you're coming up, uh
this Friday. Actually I will see Tank

1421
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:40.960
on Saturday. He'll be staying at
the house with the kids. Uncle Tank

1422
01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:44.439
is coming. The kids are excited. Sleep in your driveway Friday night,

1423
01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:48.159
May ladies. Somehow by myself I
could be out like a light bro.

1424
01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:57.119
Other than that, it's all good
man. Uh, thank you, bro,

1425
01:44:57.239 --> 01:45:00.279
I really thank you. I really
careful out there, keep pushing,

1426
01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:06.640
keep pushing for they teaching the man. Keep you know what? Actually before

1427
01:45:06.680 --> 01:45:10.960
we leave, I think we actually
have you teaching the Proby's right tang.

1428
01:45:12.720 --> 01:45:16.239
Maybe are you referring to the second
video? Yes, I think this is

1429
01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:20.079
what what he was teaching the young
guys. This is what he used to

1430
01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:24.720
say to him. All right,
hang on, I gotta share this,

1431
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:28.520
bro, Come on, I gotta
share the screen. Bro. Sorry,

1432
01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:33.439
it's difficult. This is what he
used to say. What do you think

1433
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:40.119
I can do? I don't think
I can do anything. What did you

1434
01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:46.000
spend all day looking for those things? Hey? Mom, I don't think

1435
01:45:46.039 --> 01:45:54.359
you could do anything. But we'll
see you in indeed, Bro, Bro,

1436
01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:59.960
you guys saying hey, thanks,
take care of brother, pleasure take

1437
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:02.199
thank you so much. I don't
have any last shout outs, chief,

1438
01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:10.479
yeah, shout man. Just be
good to everybody, man and if anybody

1439
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:13.640
that's helped me along my career,
man, how you know I appreciate it.

1440
01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:16.560
And it wasn't you know, heartfelt
that that what you guys did for

1441
01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:20.680
me. And hopefully there's someone here
and we're coming in and uh, we'll

1442
01:46:20.720 --> 01:46:24.119
be there March third, fourth,
and fifth. So you gotta get us

1443
01:46:24.159 --> 01:46:30.000
ruddy and matter of fact, you
next your room in your house. Old

1444
01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:33.079
lady no mind, does she?
All right? Fellas, we'll see you

1445
01:46:33.239 --> 01:46:36.760
on Monday. Until then, stay
long ago, all right. Everybody will

1446
01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:41.199
see it the big one again.
Chief. Thank you very much, Thank

1447
01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:44.359
you, guys. Chief is an
honor and a pleasure. Appreciate you coming.

1448
01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:47.239
Everybody see you on the fire floor. We bet we blessed few