WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:50.000 The following present is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from 2 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:54.399 around the world. It's time for another edition of The Flat Earth Files. 3 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.079 I hope this podcast finds you well. Hope everybody had a great weekend. 4 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:03.400 As we record it is Friday, October thirteenth, twenty twenty three. Our 5 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.400 special guest is standing by. Just a couple quick housekeeping notes before we bring 6 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:11.480 her on. First and foremost, I want to thank everyone who was a 7 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.560 part of the call on show Wednesday night. I think we had sixteen people 8 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:19.159 call in. It was a really good time to have a conversation. However 9 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.680 brief they might have been, but I enjoyed everyone who contributed, so thank 10 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:26.400 you very much for that, and of course thank you to David. Please 11 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.400 stop by the website the flat earthfiles dot com again, it's the flat Earthfiles 12 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.359 dot Com. Leave your questions in the forum. I get a lot of 13 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:41.239 emails asking certain questions about flat Earth. You're going to get an answer from 14 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:42.599 me, but if you leave it in the forum, maybe you'll get five, 15 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:48.000 six, ten different answers about your particular questions. So I encourage you 16 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.519 to drop your questions in the forum on the Flat Earth files dot com. 17 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.760 And lastly, if you would like to join the show like Rebecca is today, 18 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.439 please send me the email. It is the flat Earth Files at gmail 19 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:05.799 dot com. Once again, it is the flat Earth Files at gmail dot 20 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.800 com. I'm almost caught up with the emails. I fell behind when i 21 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:12.840 was a little under the weather, but I'm almost there, and thank you 22 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.840 all for your patience and your continued support. Now that we have that out 23 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:22.520 of the way, we are going to bring on our very special guest joining 24 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:27.080 us from the West Coast today is Rebecca. And Rebecca, thank you so 25 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.599 much for joining us today. It's great to have you. I am my 26 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:32.919 name is Rebecca, and I am a little south of Portland, Oregon, 27 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:40.800 and I'm joining today to talk to George here kind of see, I'm certain 28 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:46.719 things out in my head and I'm on this journey with everybody else. And 29 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:51.719 my brother joined that did this a couple months ago. I think maybe it 30 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:54.800 was months ago. And his name's David and he's from Alaska. That's right. 31 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.879 We had a great conversation. Yeah, I think that might have been 32 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.319 even back in August. I think it was about two months ago, and 33 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:06.400 we had a tremendous conversation with him as well. So a little bit about 34 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.360 your awakening journey from the truth now obviously yourself, like a lot of others, 35 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:15.240 as we spoke before the podcast kicked off, comes kind of from your 36 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:21.759 faith, which has been in your heart your entire life. Right. Yeah, 37 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:27.879 I'm always believed that I was a literal believer Bible. That's what I 38 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.599 thought I was believing. I grew up. We only had like one or 39 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:36.680 two radio stations one TV station, so on the top floor of the house 40 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.039 I could get Portland Radio and at night I used to listen to Javern and 41 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:46.560 McGhee and I've pretty much listened to him my whole life. And he's always 42 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.319 said that if it's not in the Bible, then it didn't happen. And 43 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:57.680 sometime after, maybe even during the whole swine flew thing, my daughter was 44 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:02.479 terribly sick. She was six years old and she had pneumonia twice from the 45 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:09.879 swine flu. And after that she had a whole bunch of little health issues 46 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.759 that she had never had before. She'd been super healthy her whole life up 47 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.639 to that point, never got sick, barely ever, even had the common 48 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:26.319 cold, And after that she started having trouble with sensitivities to foods and itchy 49 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:29.560 skin, and just you know, every time she get bitten by a spider, 50 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.639 it would bubble up and it would turn into a terrible staph infection. 51 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:39.519 And I kept thinking, you know that, what is this? What is 52 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:46.199 this? Were we hoaxed? What happened here? How can my healthy kid 53 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:54.160 go from a healthy kid have a flu an influenza? And then suddenly everything 54 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:58.240 changes and it didn't make sense to me, and so I was kind of 55 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:02.720 starting to wake up. Then as things progressed, as I worked in lower 56 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:08.240 rungs of the medical industry and started seeing correlations between you know, Okay, 57 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.480 they get prescribed this medication, then a couple months later, we get prescribed 58 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.680 this medication, and then we get this medication because we have this problem, 59 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:18.519 and before you know it, a perfectly healthy seventy year old is now on 60 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:27.759 twelve medications. How does that happen? What happened? And I started looking 61 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.519 in just looking at stuff. And one day my brother David calls me up 62 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:35.920 and asks me this question. Do you believe the Bible as it is written? 63 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:43.199 Do you believe it literally literally what you see? And I had sometime 64 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:48.639 during COVID run out of things to watch and had started watching Answers in Genesis 65 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:53.560 with ken Ham, and I was like, yeah, yeah, I do. 66 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:59.560 Actually we need to talk about this, And so we started talking and 67 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.879 he started talking to me about the shape of the earth, what does the 68 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:05.920 Bible say it is? What do I say it is? What does what 69 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:12.839 does man say it is? And from there our conversations. Three years later. 70 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.839 We let our spouses go to bed, and then we sit on the 71 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:21.120 phone a lot longer than we probably should because we both got to work early 72 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.199 in the morning. But two thirty in the morning, we're still talking. 73 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.079 We have our Bibles out in front of us, and we're flipping through stuff, 74 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.199 and we're looking at different things. We both turn YouTube on at the 75 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:35.240 same time, watch the same video. He'll send me a book in the 76 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:42.639 mail. I send him a book in the mail. And our discussions are 77 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.319 just what I would have said ten years ago. They're out there, and 78 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.920 now I don't think they're out there at all. I think these are valid 79 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:55.279 things. They need to be discussed. Yeah, and during those conversations, 80 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.959 did you well, I guess let me start with my list of questions. 81 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:02.240 When you were talking about the ill the illnesses and the things of that nature. 82 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:09.800 Did you come across things like aluminums and vaccines being a part of uh, 83 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.680 you know these that were causing some of these illnesses. Is that one 84 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:20.639 of the rabbit holes that you went down aluminums from aldehydes. I'll jump into 85 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:25.920 any rabbit hole to be honest at this point. But for me, a 86 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:29.759 lot of it, and I had I had, I had weird suspicions. 87 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.399 If I go back to when she was born, I wouldn't let them put 88 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:38.519 eye drops in her eyes until I had held her because somebody had told me 89 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:42.639 at the time, and I was terrified of having I didn't want anything to 90 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.120 happen to my baby because I had been told I wasn't going to have one 91 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:49.000 to begin with. I have polycystic ovarian disease. And so after eight years 92 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:53.639 of marriage and you don't have a baby, and you haven't tried to prevent 93 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:59.920 that, I would believe them. Yeah, And so I I did, 94 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.040 wantingything to happen to her. So I delayed a lot of her vaccines. 95 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.639 I did not go by the schedule. I stretched it out. I remember 96 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.040 scrambling to get her into kindergarten because I had delayed some of them so far, 97 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:16.079 and she was old enough that man, she didn't want to be half 98 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.600 that many shots in one day. And she was vocal enough. Yeah, 99 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:28.560 she's very she's going into medical field. She's pre med at almost twenty years 100 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.679 old. And she's now the one we'll call you know. She was at 101 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.879 our house recently dumped on half my plastic, half my tupper where disappeared and 102 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.639 like, where did all this go? And she's like, Mom, do 103 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:45.679 you not know the toxins that are in this? You have to get rid 104 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:48.960 of this. I ordered you a bunch of glass stuff off of Amazon. 105 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.159 Okay, okay, all right, I'm not going to argue with you. 106 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.159 This is my fault. Yeah, that's correct. I she's doing that because 107 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:00.600 that is something in the sixties, I think is an other thing that we 108 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.720 started to shift and change from. I remember a little bit when I was 109 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.440 younger in the seventies where the milk and the juices all came and the sodas 110 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.799 you know, all came in glass, and then they started to because it 111 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.519 was cheaper. But as it turns out, of course, that is another 112 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.399 thing that we utilize on a daily basis. That is not good for our 113 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.879 health. Right. There's a price to pay for everything. Yeah, there's 114 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.399 a price to pay, and I think we're paying. And a lot of 115 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:33.879 things for me going down, the vaccinations and the healthcare and things like that. 116 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.279 Other things have come up. Both of my brothers and I've discussed our 117 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.360 father was an Agent Ora. Well he is an Agent Orange exposey. Turns 118 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:48.960 out he was probably in one of the heavily most heavily I won' want to 119 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.840 say do sterea. I don't know any other way to put it right. 120 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.559 And I remember talking years ago. It was probably thirteen fourteen years ago when 121 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:01.480 I first started at I was working at a nursing home and I met a 122 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.639 gentleman and I was like, we are not that old, what are you 123 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:11.039 doing here? And he told me that he was a pilot and that he 124 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.960 flew Agent Orange in and out of Vietnam. And I had asked him at 125 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:16.679 the time. I was like, is that why you're here? And he 126 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.919 says, oh yeah, and he lived pulled his sleeve up and his arm 127 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:26.799 was just cubbed in tumors. And I was like, you guys didn't have 128 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.480 like any protection, no bunny suits, and he's like, are you kidding? 129 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.399 They told us it was good for us. Yeah, they told us 130 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.840 it was so safe we could drink it. Yeah, don't forget that. 131 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.519 That's within the time period where they told his cigarettes were safe and go go 132 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:46.720 spray your dandelions with roundup and Agent Orange. And that really made my uncle's 133 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:48.519 quality of life miserable. Today I was thinking about my dad and I found 134 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:52.720 an email that I sent him my mother and my sister on December fourteenth, 135 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:56.320 twenty twelve, that said, please pass this along to Dad. He made 136 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:00.480 one to pay a visit to the VA because he tried to get he had 137 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:05.759 desert storm syndrome very bad, and he applied for benefits and he was turned 138 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.679 down zero percent. And then you know us I did a publish a story 139 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.679 on December thirteenth, twenty twelve about how the wind blew deadly gas to the 140 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:20.039 US troops where he was. And he passed away three four years ago this 141 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.480 year, it was four years ago from pulmonary fibrosis. And once again, 142 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:28.480 you know, the government are quick. I mean, look what's going on 143 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.840 in the world right now. They're very quick to send us off, but 144 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.320 they will do their best to get out of taking care of us. Oh, 145 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.120 deny it um till they die. Yeah, isn't that the vasmorrow? 146 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.559 Yeah, one hundred percent. And I will say over the last well for 147 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.200 a time there things seem to be getting a little better, and say the 148 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.919 twenty tens, but it is slowly digressing. And when I turned down my 149 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:56.840 vaccine the well air quotes vaccine the COVID JAB When I turned that downy they 150 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:00.840 I haven't gotten a phone call in two and a half from them, so 151 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.799 and I'm fine with that. That's okay. I call it the fauciauci, 152 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:11.879 the fauciauci. There you go, the daba jaba do so amongst all. 153 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.759 It's interesting. Yeah, go ahead with your question please. Oh no, 154 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:16.720 no, no. If you're still in this line, that's fine, we 155 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:22.600 can continue. I was in I was in the nursing home still at that 156 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:28.600 point, and when the COVID nineteen hit, and it was really interesting because 157 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.320 our employer at the time and I went through a very weird period when I 158 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.679 was working in the nursing homes. The last fifteen years I did nursing homework. 159 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.639 It was probably even the last seven was the weirdest because that's when I 160 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.000 was starting to see stuff, and I was starting to pick up on things, 161 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:52.519 things like hospice had changed during that point, that hospice wasn't what it 162 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.000 was when I first started out nursing homes. It no longer was, at 163 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:03.159 least in my eyes and some of my co workers. It wasn't about preserving 164 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.279 a quality of life. It was about making your exit as quickly as you 165 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:15.039 could. And I just became very jaded about healthcare in general, because here 166 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.159 comes the COVID and they're talking about us, and they're telling us we need 167 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:24.919 personal protection. And when I finally got personal protection, our team did. 168 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:31.279 It was the National Guard that delivered it to us, and I was like, 169 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.559 wait a minute, how does that happen? How does the National Guard? 170 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:45.360 How are they delivering personal protection to private industry? And I never have 171 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.519 been able to reconcile that. But the National Guard pulled up in front of 172 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:54.480 our door one morning and delivered box after box of personal protection gear. And 173 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.919 I've never been able to figure out how did that occur. I'm glad they 174 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:03.879 did, even though I never I was exposed multiple times to COVID, never 175 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.639 did get it while I was working in the healthcare industry, never got it. 176 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.720 Yeah, my wife didn't either, and you know she's she's an RN 177 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:15.759 and we were ill a couple of weeks ago, which with something like it 178 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.360 was the flu or whatever, and you know, you rest and recover, 179 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.120 and you know, you put faith in your immune system and not in what 180 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:28.679 man says will fix you. And it's funny anytime my daughter has something on 181 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:35.200 and they go to a commercial. I'm telling you ninety percent of the commercials 182 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.519 that are even on, like the free Roque and Pluto TVs, ninety percent 183 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.600 of the commercials are all from the pharmaceutical industry. And it's the same thing. 184 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.759 And I know I've beat this like a dead horse, but it's fifteen 185 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.080 seconds of you know, you've lost your hair or your psoriasis is a problem, 186 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.120 and then it's it's a minute and a half of side effects, and 187 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:03.799 it's just you know, we were talking before the show about how some people 188 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:07.600 that we know are what we say, go along to get along, and 189 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.799 it's still, you know, after everything we've seen over the last three years, 190 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:16.039 that people who can sit there and watch them and not and not get 191 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:24.519 upset by these these experiments, these these companies who are allowed to manufacture things 192 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.919 that they are off the hook for legally. You know, if I created 193 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:35.559 the George Hobbes Vehicle Division, right, if I started making cars and it 194 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.759 turned out that you know, when you hit ten thousand miles, the cars 195 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.000 would catch on fire, they would sue by me my behind, and I'd 196 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.080 be out of business. But these companies are noted to have maimed and killed. 197 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.240 And from what I've heard, I was, you know, during the 198 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.559 last three years, I did a lot of deep dives and interviews with people 199 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.559 within the medical industry that said, those numbers that you see in verys, 200 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:04.399 which is the vaccine adverse reaction, I figure what the whole thing stands for. 201 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.279 But basically, if you know someone sick injured from a vaccine, you're 202 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.639 supposed to report it. They say that's only between one to ten percent of 203 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.799 the actual numbers that happens, and they're able to get all scott free. 204 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:21.759 And they looked people in the face and said, you take this or you're 205 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:25.600 facing a winner of death back in twenty twenty one, and then you know 206 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:26.679 now they look at us this year in the face and say, well, 207 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.279 we know that one didn't work, but seriously, guys, I'm not kid 208 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.600 ya. This time it's really going to work. And it goes back to 209 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.600 what we were saying again once again before we hit the record button, about 210 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:45.799 how I want to put this as gently as possible as I think certain generations 211 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.240 trusted the government a little bit more, and I think every generation for the 212 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:53.559 last couple has trusted less. And I do think we are seeing a bit 213 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.279 of a great awakening from it. And sorry I rambled on a little too 214 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:02.759 much. No, my question to you would be, when's the last time 215 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:07.480 you got an influenza vaccine? Uh? When I was in the military, 216 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:15.319 so hey, twenty fifteen. No, I would say it's close to one. 217 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:18.960 I got the last one I got. The last one I got was 218 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:23.599 I refused the one when my daughter had the swine flu. That's when I 219 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:30.039 started refusing flu vaccines. Up to that point, I was very faithful. 220 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.839 I got my flu vaccine, I got my hippatitis vaccine, I got my 221 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:40.519 pneumonia vaccines. Any vaccine that they offered me, I took it. And 222 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:44.759 to that point after that, I didn't trust the vaccines. And as I 223 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.759 started to research and I started to pay attention, and that was something too, 224 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:53.960 the paying attention to the language that they were using. Yep, well, 225 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.519 we've predicted that this year's influenza is going to be this, the vaccines 226 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.759 are going to be out here, then the vaccines would happen, and then 227 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.240 not long after that, well, they're not as effective as we anticipated. 228 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:15.559 We predicted the wrong strain, and half the nursing home would come down with 229 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:21.519 influenza that fall in that winter. And I'm like, it's it's worthless. 230 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:25.839 Why am I getting this vaccine. I noticed when I stopped getting the vaccine, 231 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:32.680 I stopped getting pneumonia every fall. I have had nurses tell me there's 232 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:37.119 no correlation. There's there's no no, no correlations, not causation. This 233 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.839 doesn't Matt, No, You're just you, just you. You did better 234 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:45.400 this year washing your hands. No I didn't. I washed my hands the 235 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:49.079 same amount. I didn't get the flu vaccine. Since I stopped getting it, 236 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.880 I don't get pneumonia and bronchitis every fall in winter. I think there's 237 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:57.640 something to that. They can tell me different, but I'm not gonna believe 238 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:03.079 that. And I don't think. I mean, what is a vaccine supposed 239 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:08.400 to be? Well, I had my smallpox vaccine as a child. I've 240 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:15.440 never had smallpox. Isn't that what a vaccine is supposed to do. That 241 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:17.759 was way back in the seventies. That's a great point. I don't think 242 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:25.880 anybody's ever said that before. It's but your flu vaccine is based on guessing, 243 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.160 hoping you've got the right strain, hoping you've predicted. The strain that's 244 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:34.759 gonna come through is the strain that what you've designed, some weird chemical that 245 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.720 you shoot into your guinea pigs, is gonna work. And that's what I 246 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:42.160 think they think we are. I think they believe we're guinea pigs. I 247 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:45.559 think and I believe this is And I know it's all about money. I'm 248 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:49.160 not gonna say I believe it. I know it's all about money. And 249 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.640 we're seeing right now, we see we've got a whole new cash cow out 250 00:19:52.680 --> 00:20:00.000 there. And it's not the COVID vaccine. It's something else. And every 251 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.119 one of these people that they want to work on, it's what is it, 252 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.119 multimillion dollars. They look at our kids and they see dollar signs. 253 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:12.319 They could march them off to be sacrificed in war that we have no business 254 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:17.440 in. They can pump them full of chemicals, their whole life and make 255 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:22.799 them all dependent on the medical industry. That's what they want. Yeah, 256 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:26.920 And I would even go one step further and to say money is a huge 257 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.359 part of it. I know when I was following Pfizer during the height of 258 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:37.799 the vaccines they were clearing, they were netting forty billion dollars a quarter, 259 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.359 So money was certainly a huge part of it. But I also do think 260 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.319 it's power. I think they control much of the people who reside in Washington, 261 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:49.279 DC. That's why they get so much protection. And then I do 262 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.000 think there's a big part of it is they want us sick. They want 263 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:57.720 us to you know, they want to push the Alzheimers, the autism, 264 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:03.839 because that in itself is a whole other business. And you look at the 265 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:10.160 people, whether it be the Rockefellers or any of these the families where I'm 266 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.039 not talking about rich, I'm talking top of the food chain. You know. 267 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.519 You see when they pass they're like ninety nine, one hundred and two. 268 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.759 And I think the average age for an American mail right now is mid 269 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:23.720 to like seventy four, seventy six, seventy eight. So you're talking about 270 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:29.680 these people live an entire generation longer that than we do. So I think, 271 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.119 to me, that's obvious that they're probably not taking vaccines. They're probably 272 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:37.640 drinking milk that hasn't been pasteurized. They probably drink out of glass containers. 273 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:42.119 And you know, they one of the reasons they say they call themselves illuminated 274 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:47.839 is because they maybe have I'm not talking about knowledge as far as God. 275 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:52.119 I'm talking about worldly knowledge that maybe helped them live a little longer. And 276 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:59.319 of course we fall for things like vaccines, et cetera. Yeah, goodfellas, 277 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.279 I hear that. Yeah, well, and you look, you just 278 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.039 look at you look at the people who are living. Well. Look at 279 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.440 the queen who what she passed a year ago? Yeah, I think she 280 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.839 had lived through how much? What did she see? And you didn't see 281 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.880 very many. So I'd say the last nursing homes I worked in, and 282 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:25.200 I worked in that one for fifteen years, they had eighty two beds. 283 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.319 I probably could count on one hand the number of people that lived to be 284 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:37.839 one hundred there one hand. Two of them were. One of them was 285 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.960 a full bird colonel in the army. Wow. And the other one I 286 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:48.920 can't remember. He was pretty high up in the Navy and they both they 287 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.880 both, oh mean, they looked good, they were healthy, and they 288 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.839 both were over one hundred when they passed away. The full Bird Army Colonel 289 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.920 he was interesting. He used to tell me some interesting stories. I'll never 290 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.160 forget him telling me, you know, stuff like because we think we know, 291 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.119 we think we know. We watched the mainstream media. Of course I 292 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:11.480 saw it on television, so what must have happened? And he would tell 293 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:18.200 me how we were in Cuba long before the Cuban missile crisis, long before 294 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:19.920 and everything. He'd tell me all the time. Girl, don't believe it. 295 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.880 Don't believe it. He says anything you hear on the news. Trust 296 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:26.400 me, it's old, it's old. We've been there for a long time. 297 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.400 We've been there much longer than they're telling you. Don't believe what you're 298 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:37.079 told because he didn't believe anymore. That's good he was understanding. Was he 299 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:44.759 a World War Two vette? Had to be, had to be. I 300 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:48.759 know he was involved during Cuban Missile crisis. Okay, I know he was 301 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:51.920 a Korean war vet. He had to have been. He had to have 302 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.599 been. He didn't talk about it, but had to have been. Did 303 00:23:55.599 --> 00:24:00.920 based on his age and his career. Yeah, well he's right about Excuse 304 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:06.079 me. One thing is I had been on certain missions in Iraq and we 305 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:10.039 would be in the dining facility, the chow hall the next day and the 306 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:11.720 news story would break and we'd be like, that's not how it happened. 307 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:19.200 And you know, we saw firsthand how the news is manipulated to invoke a 308 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:25.279 certain opinion. Right, they talked about all the colonels and generals over there, 309 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:26.920 we're talking about winning the hearts and minds. I'm like, well, 310 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:33.640 probably bombing the cities and raiding people's houses at nauseum is not a great way 311 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:38.920 to win people's hearts and minds. So they ended up having to do it 312 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:45.359 through cash and creating a system called money as a weapons system and paying people 313 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.359 four or five hundred dollars a month to stop shooting at us. So it's 314 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:56.039 just military intelligence, as they say. Right, the things I saw is 315 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.480 just nothing ceases to amaze me anymore. What did I want to talk about? 316 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.920 So within you know, these conversations and kind of going through the awakening, 317 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:11.720 we all go through different rabbit holes. What was the first one that 318 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.799 really caught your mind and said, wait, a second, what's really going 319 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.640 on here? Was there one rabbit hole that really made you stop and think 320 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:25.880 that maybe they're lying to us about everything? Yeah? Yeah, so one 321 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:30.440 of the the very first conversation. It's funny because I've listened to your podcast 322 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:37.119 off and on now since my brother brought it to my attention, and he 323 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.160 brings one of the first things out of the gate. He brings after he 324 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.160 gets me to say, yes, I believe that the Bible is as it's 325 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:51.160 written, and I believe it was intended literally Genesis literally and I he says 326 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.480 when he brings up about flat Earth. I think he was thinking I was 327 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.960 going to say, was he was off his nut? But I was like, 328 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:02.480 okay, yeah, this is a conversation we can have. Yeah, 329 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:08.839 we can talk about this. I started looking at the videos that he wanted 330 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.880 me to look at, and a lot of them were Mark Sergeant. There's 331 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:18.400 another guy he passed away during COVID. I can't think yes, Skiba. 332 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:26.359 And I called my brother back up one day and I was like, they've 333 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:33.160 lied to us. They've lied to us about the whole solar system. And 334 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.119 he goes, what I said, the whole solar system, Joshua go back 335 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.680 to Joshua. I said, how how could God stop the Sun and the 336 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:48.279 moon in their courses? If the Sun and the moon are supposed supposedly stationary, 337 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:49.920 I said, or the sun at least, I said, the sun 338 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.240 is The Sun is not stationary. The Sun revolves around the Earth. And 339 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:57.119 that's the only way that that works. If God stopped the sun so that 340 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.640 Israel complete their battle, I said, he had to be able to stop 341 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.640 it from things. So the sun was living, I said, this is 342 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.240 I said, we're we're not helio centric at all. They've lied to us 343 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.480 and then I told I said, okay, so they've been lying to us 344 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:17.279 for that long. A holy cow that goes all the way back to Copernicus 345 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:22.240 Galileo. I said, it's all a lie. It's all a lie. 346 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.880 And he's like, but why why would they lie? And I was like, 347 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.160 well, because the enemy only has one goal, seek and destroy. 348 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:30.960 I said, he's got to destroy as many of us as he can, 349 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.480 take as many of us out as with him. I said, that's the 350 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:38.640 whole thing. To destroy us, all to hide God, hide the truth, 351 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:44.039 hide God, and take as many of us with us with him as 352 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:48.240 he can. That's the whole thing. That's it, that's his whole goal. 353 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.759 It's nothing more complicated than that. I don't know if he was with 354 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:57.759 me on that day or not on helio centricity, but I'm kind of stuck 355 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.559 there. I can't get past that I have I've stuck there. I'm there's 356 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:08.839 no going back at that point. If it goes all the way back to 357 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.880 Copernicus, if it goes all the way back to is that Pope Innocent? 358 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:17.519 I want to say it's Pope Innocent, I would have to look it up. 359 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:21.359 I get the popes, there's so many of them with the same name, 360 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.599 But it goes all the way back there, So that to me, 361 00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:33.480 okay, well, the popes are involved, the Vatican's involved, Well, 362 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.400 yeah, that makes sense. The Vatican was one of the most powerful entities 363 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:42.039 on this earth at that time. And if you believe that the pope is 364 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.799 literally the mouthpiece of God, that God speaks through the Pope, that the 365 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:52.559 pope is capable of changing scripture, then you're not going to notice when the 366 00:28:52.640 --> 00:29:00.519 pope, when the pope changes everything. Because that was the other thing we 367 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.640 both struggled with, how how do you get so many people to believe this? 368 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.079 Well, over fifty percent of the world was Catholic at the time, 369 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:15.759 this pre Martin Lizard, pre Reformation. Good point. So yeah, you 370 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.640 can definitely deceive that many people if you believe that the pope is a direct 371 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:25.759 mouthpiece of God. Yeah. Nothing against Catholics, because I've got great Catholic 372 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:30.160 relatives, wonderful people that I believe are Christians. But if you don't know 373 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:34.119 your scripture, you're going to be deceived. And if you believe scripture is 374 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:41.079 changeable, you're going to be deceived. Yeah, and back then you dare 375 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:47.079 not question the pope right what he said went, And it wasn't really until 376 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:52.880 the Reformation when you started to see people challenge the narrative. And I do. 377 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.200 First, I think it's funny, not funny, ha ha. But 378 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.519 it's called the solar system. But when you if you slow it down, 379 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:04.759 it's on it's the sole lore system because it hides God and maybe it's just 380 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:10.920 luring souls away from God. And then you'd mentioned Joshua with the sun and 381 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.000 the moon standing still. If it was Helio centrism, everybody should have dripped 382 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.680 it off into space. And again I think I find it, I find 383 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.279 it very interesting that much of this, Like you said, the Copernicus era 384 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:30.079 happened right after the Reformation, and I think they felt like they had to 385 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.920 do something and this was one of the things. And there is some proof, 386 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:38.400 I want to say, it was like fifteen thirty two where Copernicus and 387 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:44.319 Martin Luther were at a dinner and Martin Luther said, you were your heliocentrism 388 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.400 is completely it goes completely against the Word of God. And there is some 389 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.720 you can find it again, who knows that this conversation that happened, you 390 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.880 know, six hundred years ago, but there is some people who believe that 391 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.880 that actually happened. So, yeah, what are your thoughts on that? 392 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.079 If that did happen? I mean Martin Lizzer, Martin Lizzer recorded most of 393 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.720 his thoughts. I mean, you've got the Book of Concord. That's that's 394 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:15.319 an interesting thing too, because I've been and I told you earlier before you 395 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.079 hit the record button. I was raised in the assemblies of bad Church. 396 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:23.920 I was raised pentecostally evangelical. I and I'm still a little bit of a 397 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:32.799 Holy roller. It's what I do. However, I as I get older, 398 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:41.799 I become more I lean more into what you know? Is it in 399 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.039 scripture? Can I find it? Can I find it in scripture? If 400 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.880 it's not in scripture, can I find it in apocryphal text? Can I 401 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:55.839 find it in you know? Is it somewhere? Does scripture even point to 402 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.680 it? Because that and that goes back to like when you ad asked about 403 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:06.119 how I woke up, I think I was waking up. And that's one 404 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.079 of the things when I hit ken Ham's stuff and was able to start really 405 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:14.880 looking at Genesis and really really dig into Genesis. And I keep going back 406 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.880 to it the last three years. I keep going right back to it because 407 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.680 is it there? Is it? Can we find it? Can we find 408 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.440 it pointed to? All scripture in the Old Testament points to the New Testament. 409 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:31.240 All the New Testament points you back to the Old Testament. They support 410 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:37.400 each other. They I'm not sure that they would work on their own. 411 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.119 It would leave a lot up to guessing. But you can find even in 412 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.759 the New Testament, there are references to the sun, there are references to 413 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:53.799 the Earth being fixed. You can find reference to what does fixed mean? 414 00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:01.400 Well, it's unmovable. Well, scripture is immutable. Scripture is infallible because 415 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:06.119 it's God breathed, and God is infallible, then I have to believe what 416 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.920 Scripture is telling me. And Martin Lizard, that's where he was. I 417 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.440 mean, he didn't set out to start a whole new religion. He just 418 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.480 wanted to have a conversation with the pope. The pope didn't want to converse. 419 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.319 It's interesting that Comperniscus would have sat down and I could see that. 420 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.880 I could see that happening. I'd like to have been a fly on the 421 00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:36.880 wall. That would have been great. There's several conversations throughout history that I 422 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.759 didn't like to have been a fly on the wall. Yeah, I'd like 423 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:43.880 to see how that went. Yeah, And sadly, so much of our 424 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.960 history is at best diluted. How much of it is even made up? 425 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:52.160 Completely? Right? I'm sure some of it is. Maybe maybe Christopher Columbus 426 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.720 didn't even exist. A lot of people think that William Shakespeare didn't exist, 427 00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.559 that all his writings were by Francis Bacon. So I'm I mean, who 428 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.680 knows. It's a shame that we have to work so hard to discern the 429 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.760 truth, but it really is what it is. My next question to you 430 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:13.239 is, why do you think people get so set off by the subject of 431 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:22.719 flat earth, you're challenging their ideology. If you challenge somebody's idea, you're 432 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:28.199 challenging everything they believed. If you've wrapped yourself up in what you believe, 433 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:35.719 if what you believe is what makes you who you are, then you're gonna 434 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:45.039 fight. Somebody challenges that because they're challenging what you believe you are. I 435 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:51.679 didn't get terribly wrought up about it because I was maybe because I was questioning, 436 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:57.159 but maybe also because it's I'm pretty secure with scripture. It is, 437 00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.719 it's it's not Scripture is not obscure, it's not hidden, it's pretty open. 438 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.760 All you have to do is read it, read it, and believe 439 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:15.320 it. But we've seen the last few years a lot of things. If 440 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.840 you challenge it, the fight is on, man, the fight is on. 441 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.280 They're gonna light you on fire. They're going to light the dumpster by 442 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.960 your house on fire, They're going to burn your village to the ground, 443 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.000 and it's all over what do I believe? And if all you believe is 444 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.400 what you've been told, and you've got nothing better to back you up than 445 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.320 insults, then yeah, you're gonna have a fight. I think if we 446 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.239 relied more on scripture and we were a little bit more I don't want to 447 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:46.079 say sedate, but a little bit more more willing to say, let's put 448 00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:52.159 a pause on the conversation. I've got research to do. Apparently, now 449 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.320 that you've brought this up, let me have a little time to, you 450 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.519 know, to look at it, and I'm gonna call you back and then 451 00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:02.400 we'll continue our discussion. If we were also too I think that too many 452 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:13.719 people aren't equipped with the ability to have a Socratic discussion. It's I don't 453 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:17.559 know what are there eight different eight different arguments? Is that what they're called 454 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:24.079 their old arguments? You're red hair and you're straw man, you're all the 455 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:30.159 different ones. People don't even know what those are. They don't even know 456 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:31.679 you. You'd look at them and you're like, that's a straw man argument. 457 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.719 What the heck is a straw man argument? Oh my goodness, you 458 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:36.960 don't know what a straw man argument is? Okay, we have to start 459 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.760 at the beginning. It's it's but the big core of it is it's you're 460 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.480 challenging. You're challenging their ideology, and that's wrapped up in who they are 461 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.880 and believing what you believe, because I know I believe. I believe what 462 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.679 I believe is what makes me. The core of who I am and the 463 00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:05.320 or who I am is is about finding truth and scripture and sharing that truth 464 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:13.320 and reproducing that truth in the lives of others. Well done, And how 465 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:17.480 I know a lot of people when you start going into the truth community and 466 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:23.840 the different rabbit holes, how it kind of changes your interests almost like maybe 467 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:29.400 things that people with sports and movies and entertainment, how they fall by the 468 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.679 wayside, and how the passion for the truth becomes a big part of your 469 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:39.920 life. Yeah, I don't have time to the NFL. Somebody said to 470 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:44.159 me the other day, they were like, what are you watching? And 471 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.320 I don't remember what I was watching it? Oh, I think I do 472 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:51.159 remember when I was watching it. I was watching a thing about were the 473 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:57.400 Native Americans the first people on you know, in the Americas? And if 474 00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.360 they weren't, who were they? My husband has a very simp plants for 475 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:05.639 my husband will look you know it's the omes because his his Mexican American. 476 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:07.840 He's well he's a naturally citizen, but he was born in Pueblo, Mexico, 477 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:14.039 and so he has very very interesting ideas as well. He's the He's 478 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:24.079 a whole another conversation. We're not allowed to watch the album's house. It 479 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.159 causes days and days of discussion. But you They were like, you'll watch 480 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.360 that, but you won't watch a football game, and I was like, 481 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:37.440 no, yeah, no, I'm actually this is edifying. I don't find 482 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:43.639 football edifying. I'm sorry, I just don't. I don't find the MMA 483 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.360 fights edifying. I just don't think going out and seeing I can beat that, 484 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.599 you know, because I know I could beat some of them. I 485 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.400 can grow beard faster than them, and I can beat them into the ground. 486 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:58.960 But I don't think any of this is edifying. And I want to 487 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.159 feed my brain. I want to feed what's going on up here. Occasionally 488 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.320 I'll watch some mindless something mindless is what I call it. Something that doesn't 489 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:13.440 take a whole lot of thought. But it does change your interests, it 490 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.159 changes what you're interested in. It Also, I think it forces you to 491 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:21.360 dig back into scripture. If that's your if your core is your is scripture, 492 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:27.840 if your core is leaning into our Triune God, then yeah, you're 493 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.920 going to be forced back into it because you have to look it up. 494 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.800 You've got to look it up. You got to find it, and the 495 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.440 scripture's going to speak to you, and the scripture is going to point you 496 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:42.519 in the right direction every single time. So it's going to change your interests. 497 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:47.639 Ultimately, I never read Spurgeon until after my brother and I started discussing 498 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:55.159 flat Earth and geocentricity versus heliocentricity. It sent me to Spurgeon, of all 499 00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:01.960 places, Charles Spurgeon, What was the next question I was gonna I was 500 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.599 gonna ask you your church, is that something that how do you think your 501 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:14.760 pastor would react if you brought that up? Is that something the Genesis and 502 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:21.079 you know the creation? Is that talked about much in your church? That's 503 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.000 funny. We're doing a deep dive. We started four months ago, at 504 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:30.000 the beginning, four or five months ago. We started in Genesis, and 505 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:37.599 we're still taking a quick pause to look at the Lord's Prayer line by line, 506 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:43.039 and then we'll be going back to Genesis and we probably won't complete it 507 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.760 until the end of the year. I've never been at a church that did 508 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.840 a deep dive that I think that would be something interesting to bring up with 509 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:55.840 pastor Bill, because I've never been anywhere where they went chapter by chapter, 510 00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:02.559 verse by verse or verse by verse through Genesis, and there they've been doing 511 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:07.360 it, and I've found that a lot of what they're saying I'm I'm good 512 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:16.320 with. They're definitely young Earths, which is important because the scripture just doesn't 513 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:25.679 support an old Earth. The discussion about the dinosaurs, that that's an interesting 514 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.519 conversation all by itself. A lot of it winds up being, you know 515 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.960 what, what do you believe a dinosaur is? I don't think it's what 516 00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:40.079 I was told it was right in Jurassic Park, right, right, right? 517 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.079 Right? Isn't it interesting? Godzilla looks like a t rex? Yeah? 518 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:52.400 Right? And Hollywood programming, right, I think I think dinosaurs and 519 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.599 the ball they put at the beginning of Universe Pictures and all the other ones, 520 00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.519 and every movie TV show you watch, there is a globe within that 521 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.920 program and it's it's reinforcement propaganda, is what it is. There's a reason 522 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.360 they call it programming. That's right. The TV programs you exactly, no, 523 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.280 that is exactly it. It is programming. I mean you can see 524 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.719 it actually, and the ideal and the ideology of this current generation of youth. 525 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:28.320 You can see where the programming has led. I hear you ask all 526 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.480 the time. You know, you have people you know, why does this 527 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.800 matter? Why does it matter at all? And I think why? For 528 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:40.679 me, it's what are we teaching our kids? What are they we're we're 529 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.280 teaching them at home? We have scripture. We measure it all against scripture. 530 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.199 Everything needs to align with scripture. You should be looking at it through 531 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:58.159 scripture colored glasses. But then we send them to the government programming camp called 532 00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:06.079 public school. And even charter schools aren't all that safe anymore. Charter school 533 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:09.880 still takes a certain amount of their money from the government. From the government, 534 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.199 which is from your taxes. I mean, they rape and pillage your 535 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:19.320 paycheck and take your tax money and in this state, to the tune of 536 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:25.119 like forty two percent of your income by the time they're done with local taxes 537 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.199 and everything else. But we send them to that programming camp where they are 538 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:37.400 programmed. When they first walk into kindergarten, there's a round globe looks just 539 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.079 like I mean, it's it's the shape of a bouncy ball. Then on 540 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:46.239 the map again it's round Earth. Why does it look funny, Well, 541 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.960 because we had to make it look like that so that it you know, 542 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.920 but if you put it all together, it's a round ball again. And 543 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.960 then you bring them over here, and you know, they're being taught that 544 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.360 we're heliocentric, that we went to the moon and that we did this, 545 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:05.199 and that we're going back to the moon. Don't you know, we're gonna 546 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.079 build whole villages on the moon, and we're gonna do this and that, 547 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.760 and we're going to Mars too, by the way, don't forget we're going 548 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.719 to Mars. Have we been back to the moon. When's the last time 549 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:20.440 we went to the moon? Because I know India didn't go. That was 550 00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.960 the worst. That was an insult to anybody's intelligence. Anybody who bought that 551 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:31.360 looked like a nineteen eighty two video game. You know. I just kept 552 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:35.800 looking at it, going, what the heck? What in the actual heck? 553 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:40.000 What is that? It's trash? You can get better clip art than 554 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.800 that. Yeah, I think that's honestly, part of it is deception. 555 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:51.159 But I also think a large part of this is mockery, Like like they're 556 00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:57.239 saying, even though most people will well say that's fake. They're not going 557 00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.400 to do anything about it. What are they going to do to us? 558 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.559 So I think a big part of what they do was mockery in addition to 559 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.480 deception. Fear, well, fear, I mean, there has to be 560 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.920 there has to be some incentive to take you know that, even if you 561 00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.880 don't believe it, to take it and to go along, like you know 562 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.719 we've said go along to get along, well, you have to have an 563 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.159 incentive. Fear is a great motivator. Fear is a really good motivator. 564 00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:29.519 I mean, look at the fears of having food. How many food shortages 565 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.239 have we seen in you know, different stuff ash. I remember during the 566 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.519 COVID nineteen going to my local Walmart and there was no bread, there was 567 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.280 no kale. Because I'm an Oregon, we had to have a kale shortage, 568 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:50.760 no toilet paper, and people were terrified. And I'm sitting here thinking, 569 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:55.719 you know, I've got to start growing a better garden. I don't 570 00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:05.199 need that. We're terrified because we've become dependent. Was it Henry Kissinger that 571 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:09.840 said that if you control, if you control all the food market, something 572 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:14.079 to this effect. I know this is wrong. It's me. I'm knowing 573 00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:15.639 saying it wrong. But the gist of it was that if you controlled the 574 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.000 food, you controlled the whole world. All you needed to do was control 575 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.320 the food. And the Cargo family controls seventy percent of all the food that 576 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:28.280 you know here in America. And there's another great example, Henry Kissinger. 577 00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:34.000 That guy is one hundred years old and it looks like he's never He doesn't 578 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.760 even look like he's in great shape. It's just amazing these people. I 579 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.719 mean, he was consulting presidents going back into the sixties and here we are 580 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:44.360 in twenty twenty three. He's still going. California senator that just passed away, 581 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:47.800 Diane Feinstein was she ninety nine years old. They were wheeling her into 582 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.880 the Senate so that she could vote. Yeah, her aides were helping her 583 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:59.920 vote. This is like I was sitting there thinking, this is this is 584 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:07.119 pathetic politics. I call him my friend. I haven't seen him in a 585 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.440 long time. I probably need to go to one of his coffee sit downs. 586 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:15.599 But I've met Clyde Lewis and had some discussions with him over the Year's 587 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:20.320 Cup two three times. He likes to say, and I know this isn't 588 00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:27.440 an original saying, damn, but politics is theater for the ugly. Yeah, 589 00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:32.159 it's a divide and conquer it is really what it is. And we 590 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:38.760 talked about accountability, and you know how they were just getting away with everything 591 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.679 they got away with during COVID, I'll just put it that way. And 592 00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:47.599 then you know, February twenty twenty two, everybody forgot about COVID and you 593 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.000 were either Ukraine or Russia, and then a couple days ago now you're either 594 00:47:52.320 --> 00:48:01.920 Israel or Palestine. And what that really shows is that the basic premise of 595 00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:07.920 politics, they have used it to divide and conquer the country. Whether it's 596 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:13.760 sports, whether it's politics, every thing that they put out there is to 597 00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.599 number one, take your attention off of them. And I'm talking about the 598 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:21.039 people in DC because the power to the people should be at the lowest levels. 599 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.559 The most powerful entities that have an effect on your life should be either 600 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.800 in your city, or in your county, or in your state. The 601 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:34.559 entire role of the federal government should simply be to dispute or to handle disputes 602 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:38.400 between the states. And this has become a monster that has no accountability. 603 00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:46.519 And like you said, about five or ten minutes ago you work. I 604 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.519 think I forget if it's the end of March or early May. There's a 605 00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:54.679 day when they say you've officially paid your taxes, and then you start working 606 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:58.639 the rest of the year for yourself. Like the first three and a half 607 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.320 months, all that money goes to the government, and then from April whatever 608 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.119 on goes to you. That it's you know, it's a quarter of the 609 00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.400 year that you work for, is money that goes for the government that you 610 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.039 have no control over. You saw going out the door to Ukraine to be 611 00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.920 laundered, and all these silly things that go on in our country. And 612 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.719 once again they will tell you, the people on the TV will tell you, 613 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.320 well, you just need to hope, you need to vote better, 614 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.519 vote harder in twenty twenty four. So for the next you know, fifteen 615 00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:29.920 months, thirteen months, you just need to sit back and let things go 616 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.400 as they may, and just vote little harder next time and things will turn 617 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.239 out your way. Right. Little Larry Nortman in his song of Great American 618 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.239 novel once he asked the question, what would happen if none of us would 619 00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:46.199 vote? What would happen? That's agreed? They not choose a president. 620 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:52.760 I'm sure they would come up with some kind of draft resolution. It would 621 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.280 be an official coin flip yourself. They would come up something ridiculous. It's 622 00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.239 not going to stop anything. No, not at all. Just like there's 623 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.000 no Speaker of the House. Now, has it changed anything? Has it? 624 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.519 No? Now, none of it. It's all theater is what it 625 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:12.960 is. It's divide and conquer because that I said this today or yesterday in 626 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.280 an email to someone, I said that the president of the United States hasn't 627 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:22.519 had power at least since the sixties. Okay, they you're you're a figurehead 628 00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:29.239 who reports to other entities, whether they be banks or uh government like the 629 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:34.239 CIA. Right, you don't. The proof is in the pudding. Look 630 00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:38.360 at Joe Biden. If you think that gentleman there is writing policy, doing 631 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:44.480 anything other than doing what he's told then I don't know what he's told you 632 00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.239 that he's told us that though if you if you hear some of the outtakes, 633 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:52.559 some of the and and and and This is by no means a partisan 634 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.960 discussion, because I think the one side is just as bad as the other. 635 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.360 I don't think they're any different. No, of course they work together. 636 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.480 Yeah, so, but he has been on stage. There was two 637 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.679 three weeks ago he was the press Corps was in front of him and somebody 638 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.159 said. He's like, oh, I didn't get a list to who I 639 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:15.119 could call on. And I don't remember who asked him. It might have 640 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.880 been. Is that Peter Doucey, the one that really gets under his skin? 641 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:22.760 Yeah, Fox, Yeah, the young guy. And he's like, 642 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.679 no, no, because he's like, well, just choose somebody, and 643 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.400 he's like, no, no, I can't do that. I have to 644 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.320 call on who. They told me. You're supposed to be the leader of 645 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.920 the free world and you need permission to ask a question from somebody. It's 646 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.039 just ridiculous. And people still think voting is going to make a difference that 647 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:43.360 the system is broke right. It's just like when your car is totaled, 648 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.280 you can't fix it. You got to get another one. And that's really 649 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:52.159 where we're at now and we need do you know it wasn't always set up 650 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.000 this way. It's very interesting when you look at Senate and the Senate and 651 00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:02.960 that House representatives because if you go back to Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett and 652 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:08.079 when they were in Senate yes, one of them was a senator. Know 653 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:14.000 your history, otherwise you're doomed to repeat it. But they they didn't. 654 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.360 It wasn't a career. You didn't go there. That wasn't your career. 655 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.639 That was not how you survived. They would go there for a short time 656 00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.440 and then they'd go back to their will and Daniel Boone's case, he'd go 657 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:31.679 back to his trap lines. But it wasn't your career. You weren't expected 658 00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:36.840 to be there until you were old, so you didn't need to have all 659 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.039 the benefits. You didn't need to get a salary. That's right. It 660 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:45.920 was community service. You were doing this as a service to your community. 661 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.920 Yeah, really, well said you were. It was an honor to step 662 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:55.159 out of private sector and to serve the public. And now we're at a 663 00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.880 place where they think that, you know, we serve them, where they're 664 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.440 looking to us as serfs or served them. And it's interesting that you had 665 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.960 mentioned Davy Crockett because he was in right around the time. He was the 666 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.559 House of Representatives from Tennessee. But he was around the same time. There 667 00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.880 was a party a lot of people don't know about called the Anti Masonic Party. 668 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:20.840 The people during that time frame, the Crocketts, the William Morse who 669 00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:25.800 invented the Morse Code. They understood that there were secret societies that have infiltrated 670 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.480 our country, between the Jesuits and the Masons. And there was actually a 671 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:35.119 party called the Anti Masonic Party, and of course, I think what would 672 00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.920 end up becoming the Republican Party kind of absorbed the Whig Party, which I 673 00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:45.239 think Davy Crockett was, and they Anti Masonic Party. Because remember, we 674 00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:46.760 can't have three, four or five things to choose from, you only get 675 00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:51.079 two. You know, you got to properly divide the country everything. You 676 00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:53.159 got to be this or that, and God forbid if you don't have a 677 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:57.440 choice, right, Like if you tell if you know, my mom said, 678 00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.599 who'd you vote for? I didn't vote, So why should you settle 679 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:07.960 for the less evil? Right? Well, that's all you're doing. You're 680 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.719 voting for the lesser of two evils. Yeah, thank you, That's exactly 681 00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.960 what I was going to say, the lesser of two evils. It's the 682 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.360 same thing with your food. So ten corporations control all the food in the 683 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.920 world, and those corporations, if you break it down, one or two 684 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:28.880 large groups control those ten corporations. Well, if you're the only gas station 685 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:35.880 for miles around, you get to set the price. Yeap nobody else. 686 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.280 Nobody can complain because you have no place else to go. You don't have 687 00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:44.599 anywhere else to go. It's the same thing with our politics. We're going 688 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:51.039 to give you the two people. Well, you have kids, I have 689 00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:52.920 one, but I've been a nanny for year. I was a nanny for 690 00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:58.400 years. One of the things you learn right off is do not let them 691 00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.239 choose their clothes. If you hair what they look like, what do you 692 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:06.239 do. You go in and you pick two outfits and you put them up. 693 00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:08.119 All right, are we wearing the red outfit or are we wearing the 694 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:14.519 pink outfit? You like both of them? Make sure you like both of 695 00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:21.239 them, because otherwise you don't really get to complain. And it's where we're 696 00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.639 at now. They're holding up do I want this one or this one? 697 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:32.599 And they're each equally evil. There's no real difference, it doesn't matter. 698 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:39.039 Nothing changes. Yeah, And going back to one of the few responsibilities of 699 00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:45.280 the government should have is ensuring that monopolies don't take over like you were just 700 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.320 talking about, and we have evens oh my goodness, we're all guilty, 701 00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:54.320 all of us are guilty of championing Amazon. And you know, I don't 702 00:55:54.400 --> 00:56:00.559 know how people can't see between Walmart, Amazon, and the federal government that 703 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:02.480 from ten years from now, that's going to be ninety percent of the workforce. 704 00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:07.880 US government is already the largest employer in this country. Amazon is slowly 705 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.360 getting there. And if you believe Jeff Bezo started this in a garage, 706 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:14.840 then once again I got a bridge to sell you. This is all yeah 707 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:19.400 to lead. This is nineteen eighty four where everybody go look back at what 708 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.639 was going on in Whymar, where everybody did the same things, worked in 709 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.280 the same places. And we're kind of living in a y Mar two point 710 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:30.199 zero right now. But that's what they want. They want everybody to you're 711 00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:34.880 either going to work for the federal government or you're going to work for Amazon 712 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.280 or Walmart. It's going to be a very few entities out there where you're 713 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:40.880 going to work for. Their whole goal is to eliminate the middle class and 714 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:46.519 by having all these small businesses that and they started that full blast in twenty 715 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:51.320 twenty when they told you you weren't essential, right, don't you think that 716 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:57.840 that was part of the part of the reason now COVID nineteen destroyed. We 717 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:02.199 spend quite a bit of time on an Oregon coast and it was nice because 718 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:07.480 as you as you got closer to the coast, then there's no wal Mart. 719 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:13.800 You can only go to small businesses, mom and pop shops. When 720 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:20.119 we went once Oregon allowed you to be able to go back to moving freely. 721 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.480 First time we went back to the coast, I kid you not. 722 00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:32.039 I think there's less than twenty percent of the mom and pop shops are left. 723 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:40.960 They're just gone, boarded up and gone. Now there's I think there's 724 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:47.679 a Walmart either in Lincoln City or Newport. I'm not sure which there's definitely 725 00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:51.000 though, I mean they've got a fred Meyer out on the coast. Now 726 00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.920 they've got well they've had a fred Meyer until for years. But I mean 727 00:57:54.159 --> 00:58:00.440 it's corporations, more fast food. Now they've got their Dutch Brother and the 728 00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:05.920 Starbucks and they've got you know, everything everything they're corporate, corporately owned. 729 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.280 All the mom and pop shops are gone. This little fudge shop that you 730 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.440 could go to and get cranberry fudge and to all the different flavor you know, 731 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:20.199 lavender, fudge if you want to eat soap, but just gone. 732 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.840 And I think that was part of it. They there was an opportunity there 733 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:28.280 with COVID and let's take out the small business. Let's take out the family 734 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.320 owned business. They've been weeding out family farms for years. You can see 735 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:37.400 it through the Midwest. We see it here in Oregon. Tillamook is one 736 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:43.599 of the last holdouts. Tillamook are still local farmers delivering their milk to Tillamook 737 00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:46.480 and you can get your Tillamook cheese. And they're not owned by one of 738 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:52.880 those big ten corporations. But dere Gold they're owned by one of the big 739 00:58:52.920 --> 00:59:00.719 corporations. Their gold is by no means local. That's interesting. And the 740 00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:05.599 other thing, the whole other layer to this is when all these local businesses 741 00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:09.760 and small businesses go out of business, then that's more property for the black 742 00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:15.039 Rocks and those types of to snatch up for pennies on the dollar because yeah, 743 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.840 and you know what they do it that they build a parking lot. 744 00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:21.239 Yeah yeah, and in many cases they get it for pennies on the dollar 745 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.880 because in most cases the people gave up the property because they couldn't afford to 746 00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:30.559 pay for it. When we moved to this area, it was oat farms, 747 00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.920 potato farms. This particular city, it's a little city culture with Oregon, 748 00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:39.199 and it was the oat farms, potato farms, and onion farms primarily. 749 00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:45.480 That's all there was. There was no Target, there was no Walmart. 750 00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:52.199 There wasn't even a Walgreens. We had an Albertson's and we had a 751 00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:59.079 Safe Way and maybe one or two Starbucks. At the time, with one 752 00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:05.599 little high school and one elementary school and one middle school. There were more 753 01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:15.119 churches than bars today. In twenty years, all the oat farms that you 754 01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:17.559 could see from the highway as you pass through, they're gone. They are 755 01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:22.320 gone. We now have a Target, we have a Walmart, we have 756 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:27.800 a Walgreens. We have a huge medical plaza up on the corner across from 757 01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:31.239 Walgreens. If you want to see the farms now, you've got to drive 758 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:37.960 fifteen minutes out of town to find one of the farms. We have some 759 01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:43.079 hobby farms in along the highway that are there. I believe they're there for 760 01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.559 looks, that's it. But I mean, we didn't even have a hotel. 761 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:51.840 Now we have a hotel, a huge YMCA. We call it the 762 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:57.159 Sherwood Country Club because who can afford to join the y anymore? But I 763 01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:02.119 mean it's all gone. It's all gone. They're either parking lots or big 764 01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:07.320 box stores. That's that's said, because you know, growing up, we 765 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.079 were told that small business was the backbone of this country, and it had. 766 01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:14.119 At one time. Small business was I think eighty percent of it. 767 01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:17.840 And anybody who tries to say that now is just pulling your leg, certainly 768 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:23.599 without effect. Going back a little bit, when you, yeah, when 769 01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:27.000 you were going down your rabbit holes at everything, Well, let me ask 770 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:30.159 you this first growing up, and before you started going into the rabbit holes, 771 01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.320 did you buy into the hole? We went to the moon thing? 772 01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.840 Is that anything that you really ever even questioned or was it just a part 773 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:42.119 of the show. Sure my mom saw on TV? Right, I mean, 774 01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:46.360 for that matter, I watched The Challenger Explode on TV in my classroom 775 01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:52.159 when I was in maybe the sixth or seventh grade. I you know, 776 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.320 I watched it. They would wheel the t they would wheel the television into 777 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:59.719 your classroom. I don't know how old you are, but I was born 778 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:04.840 and so I was born under Nixon. So, but I remember the television 779 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.719 on the cart with the VCR and they'd wheel it into the classroom and we 780 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:13.800 were tiny school. I graduated from a class of eighteen students. We would 781 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.119 watch the watch the rockets go off to the you know, and we're like, 782 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.960 Oh, they're going up into the sky. They're gonna they're gonna try 783 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:22.440 to go back to the moon. We're going to go back to them someday. 784 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:30.119 Did we go? And if we did go, did we go when 785 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.519 they said we went? At the very least, That's where I'm at on 786 01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.760 that is, if we went. But I'm not convinced because I can't find 787 01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:42.840 anywhere in scripture where it says the firmament was destroyed. There's I cannot find 788 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:50.119 anywhere that it says the firmament was destroyed or removed. So I'm not convinced 789 01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:57.679 that there's not still a firmament and that we're not enclosed. We're certainly not 790 01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.440 a never expanding universe. Because there's only two places in the Bible where you 791 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:06.280 can find the words it's finished. You find it's finished in Genesis, when 792 01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:10.639 God's done creating with the creation, which means nothing else happens after nothing else 793 01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:16.079 is created. After that, again you find it is finished when Jesus is 794 01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:27.960 dying on a cross. Those are the only two places the firmament. It 795 01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.400 must still be there. The Bible doesn't say it was removed, doesn't say 796 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:37.960 it was destroyed. So I'm not a big fan of coming up with things 797 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:39.760 on my own. I don't want. I'm not gonna certainly not going to 798 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:44.679 add to it. Pretty sure somewhere in the Bible it's some there somewhere it 799 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:46.639 says that I'm not supposed to add. Well, it also says I'm not 800 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.360 supposed to run unless somebody's chasing me. But that's I think that's in psalms 801 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:58.840 or proverbs, which is clearly clearly poetic and metaphoric. But the rest of 802 01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.199 the Bible doesn't say that. It's going to tell you if it's metaphoric. 803 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:05.400 It's going to tell you I's allegorical. And if it doesn't tell you it's 804 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:12.800 allegorical or metaphorical and it's not there, then you certainly have to do some 805 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:16.760 serious acrobatics to make it fit. And I cannot find a place where it 806 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:21.400 easily fits. But the firmament's gone, so it to me it's at the 807 01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:26.719 very least questionable that we went to the moon. But I have a hard 808 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:30.119 time believing. I have a hard time believing they can make it past the 809 01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:33.760 firmament agreed to one hundred percent, and Genesis two, verse one says, 810 01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:38.039 thus the heavens and the Earth were finished, and all the host of them. 811 01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:43.000 And like you said, that goes completely against an never expanding universe. 812 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.239 And I would think if the firmament was destroyed, we'd be a little wet 813 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:49.559 right now, you know, if you took the yeah, because that's what's 814 01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:54.679 used to separate the waters. So again, I think it's all part of 815 01:04:54.719 --> 01:05:00.000 their deception. It's part of their evolution theory, their Big Bang theory, 816 01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:04.719 that you're just here on Earth and when you're done, you're done, right, 817 01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.679 You're just a small piece of this ever expanding universe. And you know, 818 01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.719 Hollywood reinforces you have, yeah, what hope you have? And Hollywood 819 01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.199 reinforces it with There's Aliens, right, all these different movies with with the 820 01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:25.559 Aliens. And then they also are able to use it as another tool of 821 01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.320 fear, right because any minute, you know, the Earth could get struck 822 01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.440 by an asteroid. You can google asteroid. Just put asteroid in Google and 823 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:36.679 you'll find a story within the last thirty to forty five days that says asteroid 824 01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:43.559 CE twenty four oh seven narrowly missed Earth by one point two million miles every 825 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:49.119 moth that's always in there. Yeah, well so people may think I'm off 826 01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.840 my net there, but you know, I mean, you do hear people. 827 01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:55.000 You know, Oh, I was kidnapped. Aliens? Were you? 828 01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:00.960 You were kidnaped by a demon. A demon is harassing you. We need 829 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.079 to talk about what you need to do in your house. You've got it. 830 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:10.440 You've got a demon problem, not an alien problem. And what do 831 01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:15.159 you think uh brings in demons into people's lives? Is it what they're doing? 832 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.800 Is it the the articles in their home? You you invite them in? 833 01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:26.199 Uh, there's like I said, I need to cut that says it's 834 01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.280 in the Bible or something. There's a place in the Bible where it talks 835 01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:36.920 about that rebellion is is as or where's my blue letter? Rebellion is as 836 01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:45.920 I want to say, as evil as possession something. Yeah, you're probably 837 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:50.880 I'm not as sharp on the uptake right now, but it's it's terror, 838 01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:59.119 it's it's rebellion. We're rebelling. If you yeah, yeah, if you 839 01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:00.760 rebel against the world commandments, the hand of the Lord is against you. 840 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:11.599 That's Samuel. That's not what I was looking for. But you you opened 841 01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:15.599 the door. You have to have opened a door somewhere. And and it's 842 01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:20.400 not because I mean, we're born sinful people. That's that's the whole thing. 843 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:27.039 And it's our whole, our whole existence from the start we're born. 844 01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:30.440 And people don't want to hear that. It's an unpopular opinion to say that 845 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.920 we're we're born in sin, but we are. The Bible is pretty clear 846 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:41.519 about that. Our whole existence should be moving back toward God. We should 847 01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:45.519 be pointing back there, which you know, and the Bible is there to 848 01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.159 guide you and help turn you back. But we're rebellious and we want to 849 01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.400 do what we want to do, and we don't want to be told that 850 01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:56.119 we can't. You know that certain things are evil, and let me tell 851 01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:59.639 you, they make evil look pretty good, don't they. They make it 852 01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:02.840 look it's exciting. Do you want to go to Disneyland or do you want 853 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:06.159 to go to the Ark and Counter? Every little kid in creation wants to 854 01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:12.800 go to Disneyland. Mine didn't. She wanted to go to Dollywood, But 855 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:19.720 I'm not even sure that's a safe place. Right now, it looks good, 856 01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:23.680 but when you start to get down to the roots of some of it, 857 01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:27.079 it goes back to what we said earlier. There's a reason that what 858 01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:31.079 you see on your TV is called programming, and the enemy is out there 859 01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:34.920 looking for us. He wants to destroy us. He's gonna make evil look 860 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:39.319 good. He's gonna make it easy for kids. To look at the kids 861 01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:45.119 today. They I actually have a friend whose daughter looked her in the face 862 01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:47.119 because she's like, why are you doing these things? Do you not understand 863 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:51.359 that you're going to destroy yourself? She's like, I'm nineteen, I'm supposed 864 01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:58.680 to do these things. I'm supposed to be rebellious. No, who told 865 01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.560 you that? Who told you you were supposed to be rebellious? Well, 866 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:05.319 that's what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to act crazy now. That 867 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:14.239 way, later on I can be boring like you. Once again, that 868 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:15.760 goes back to what they're taught in school. That's what they're told. Yes, 869 01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:18.600 that's what they're told. That's what they're told. Sew your wild oats 870 01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:21.119 now, how many times have you heard it? I mean, any any 871 01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:25.199 trashy novel you pick up. They talk about young men need to sew their 872 01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:30.479 wild oats and young women need to be rebellious when they're young. No, 873 01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:35.239 actually you don't. You really don't, and it's probably better if you don't. 874 01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:42.640 You certainly have fewer regrets. You certainly will look back on stuff that 875 01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.279 you said when you were younger and not sit there and go, oh, 876 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:47.720 my gosh, why didn't somebody shut me up? Did you guys not have 877 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:56.079 a muzzle? Could you not have stopped me? I mean I did it. 878 01:09:56.159 --> 01:10:01.079 I've done and I nearly I mean you can A lot of us could 879 01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:10.640 probably say this. I've believed things that are not true. I've believed things 880 01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:15.199 that were not scriptural, and I can trace a lot of it back. 881 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:17.720 And I know my teachers didn't know any better. My science teacher was a 882 01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:21.239 great he was a great teacher. He didn't I don't believe he knew any 883 01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:28.880 better. It goes back to having a surface level of script knowledge of scripture. 884 01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:34.079 It goes back to not teaching Genesis history. If we don't teach it 885 01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:40.760 as being historically accurate. If we do not teach it as written, then 886 01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:45.640 how can they believe anything else you say? Put it to you this way. 887 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:49.319 A friend of mine's a prosecuting attorney. When you're on the stand and 888 01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:55.760 you testify, if they figure out that you're lying or that you're not being 889 01:10:55.800 --> 01:11:00.920 truthful, then all of your testimony, everything you've already given, and everything 890 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:05.520 you might give, is now no longer valid. Nothing you said matters. 891 01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:09.760 And so you'll hear people and they'll say, well, yeah, I know 892 01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:13.560 they lied to us, and they lied to ski gearman. Yep, that 893 01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:18.680 was all about lies and experimenting on people, you know, Vietnam with Agent 894 01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:21.840 Dora, and yeah, they lied to our soldiers. Oh, they've lied 895 01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:25.680 to us about desert storm, they lied to us about this. Okay, 896 01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:30.760 Well, why do you believe anything they have to say? Hasn't that been 897 01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:34.039 enough? They've lied to you all these times. They've been lying to us 898 01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:41.159 and Copernicus. Why is anything that comes out of any major power valid? 899 01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:45.800 At this point? The only place where I can trace it I haven't been 900 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:50.159 lied to is in scripture. That's an excellent point. And as soon as 901 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:54.560 enough people catch on, they just go to the next deception, and then 902 01:11:54.600 --> 01:12:00.279 people forget about the last one. It's it's just uh, it's kind of 903 01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.560 disappointing. And nine to eleven we were never going to forget, right, 904 01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:09.560 yeah, right, Oh my goodness, gracious, we were never going to 905 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:13.319 forget nine to eleven. And then as soon as enough people forgot, as 906 01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:18.239 soon as it was down the memory hole, then COVID was that the next 907 01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:21.079 one. Oh my gosh, there were there was many. There was Iraq, 908 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:24.279 there was well, there were many mini ones. There was that just 909 01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:29.880 swine flew and there was that virus that caused the baby's heads to be tiny. 910 01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.760 There was thing Gozzi. There's one after another. But yeah, COVID 911 01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:35.600 was the next, big, big obviously. Yeah, that was the next 912 01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:39.960 that was on. And that one thing that I don't think we discuss enough 913 01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:44.680 is how every single country was in and I hate to use this term, 914 01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:46.840 but was in lockstep. They all did the same thing. Everybody did the 915 01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:51.119 six feet, everybody did the masks. How can you not see at that 916 01:12:51.239 --> 01:13:02.920 point that the one World government is already falling into place? Oh, when's 917 01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:09.000 the last time we had a Jesuit pope? That I don't know a whole 918 01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:14.840 lot about it, but there has always been some talk about the reason that 919 01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:23.640 Jesuits weren't historically popes was because the Jesuits were the legal arm of the Catholic 920 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:30.560 Church. They weren't, and there was some there. There's some people who 921 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:34.800 believe that there's some prophecy about the Jesuit pope being the last pope, that 922 01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:42.399 the last pope will be a Jesuit and that he'll be somehow part of the 923 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:45.560 one World government, and that I don't know a lot about. I do 924 01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:49.520 know though, that there's there're separating a goats and cheat sheep, and I 925 01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:55.560 have wonder if we're not seeing the weeding out, the winnowing, weeding out 926 01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:02.279 who who are believers, who's really who's really there? Who are really you 927 01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:05.319 know, what is the Harlot Church going to be? I don't think it's 928 01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:08.880 going to be one church. It's going to be a lot. It's going 929 01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:15.319 to be in very generalized, not just one little church. But we're going 930 01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:19.880 to win a I'm out maybe a small gleaning or not gleaning. What is 931 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:28.439 it called culling of the herd spot on, and we're culling. We're being 932 01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.920 culled, yep, a thousand percent. And they're they're not hiding it either, 933 01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:35.319 And I'm glad you mentioned that because it was a question I overlooked. 934 01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:41.239 And I'm not just your thoughts on this question, but where do you think 935 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:53.560 that where where do you think we are biblically in the stages of things. 936 01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:59.159 I mean, at the very least, we're at the beginning of the end. 937 01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:00.319 I mean we're not going to know the date or time, we're not 938 01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:09.159 going to but when we do have signs to look for. There everybody thinks 939 01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:12.920 that they know who the Antichrist is. Everybody's got to eat YouTube channel about 940 01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:15.399 the Antichrist. There's I think there's I mean, if you read, if 941 01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.039 you read very carefully in Revelation, there's going to be many small Antichrists that 942 01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:26.720 come up, and you have wonder if that's not to wake us up. 943 01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:36.760 That's a good point. Uh, you know, I'm the Pope definitely. 944 01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:41.920 I mean, he's he doesn't seem to be, but he could could be 945 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:46.319 an Antichrist. I mean, you look at what he's teaching, how he's 946 01:15:46.399 --> 01:15:50.960 even changed the wording of the Lord's prayer. It doesn't mean the way he's 947 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:56.359 worded it, it doesn't mean the same thing that it means when you read 948 01:15:56.439 --> 01:15:59.920 your Bible, and when you read your Bible, are you reading a Bible 949 01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:05.399 it's pre nineteen eighty because if you really pay attention, they've changed the words. 950 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.239 It's one of the reasons you've got to go into the lexicon when you're 951 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:15.800 looking stuff up a really good example. I mean, and they are changing 952 01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:19.319 the words, they're changing history with the very I mean, at the very 953 01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:23.960 least, we're at the beginning of the end. And I say that because, 954 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:26.720 like you said, you brought up nineteen eighty four. I have a 955 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.600 list of books everybody ought to read in my head. One of them is 956 01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:35.520 nineteen eighty four. Another one that people ought to read is Brave New World. 957 01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:42.000 And the third one would be Screwtape Letters. If you read the Screwtape 958 01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:46.399 Letters and you start looking at what's going on in our world, the Screwtape 959 01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:57.800 Letters is frightening. It's really scary. There is so much change in your 960 01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:01.800 Bible and in classic literature, and you had no idea. Everybody thought last 961 01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:05.199 year when they said they were going to change Charlie in the Chocolate Factory and 962 01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:10.079 Rolled Ball's books, that that was the beginning. Oh, go back, 963 01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:14.760 go back, pick up Little House on the Prairie. If you can pick 964 01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:17.359 up an early edition of Little House in the Prairie and you can pick up 965 01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:24.119 when published here in the last ten years, they've made a lot of changes. 966 01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.840 They've made a lot of changes. There's a word and it starts with 967 01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:32.800 an A, and the word means essentially, I can't pick the word out 968 01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:38.520 of my head right now, but it essentially means when you are taking today's 969 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:45.760 ideals and today's ways that we do things and you're super imposing it on a 970 01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:54.319 time when those ideals and those ways of doing things were not present, and 971 01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.720 we do that. You see it all the time. Well, we need 972 01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.800 to change this TV show as we produce it because there's not enough people of 973 01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:05.159 color. We need to change this TV show and we need to take out 974 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:12.840 all these words that today we consider to be nasty words. Well, I'm 975 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:19.079 really sorry, but Henry the eighth he really did marry only a bunch of 976 01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:30.439 white women. There just weren't that many black women in that time period that 977 01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:35.720 were at that were in his is the word casete. We're in his class, 978 01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:43.479 They just weren't. And it's today. Yeah, we do things very 979 01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:48.239 differently. Race is an interesting discussion, especially if you look at it in 980 01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:54.800 the book light of the Book of Genesis. Book of Genesis doesn't bring up 981 01:18:54.880 --> 01:19:03.800 race, because we're all one race Medieva. You can trace absolutely through male 982 01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:12.479 lineage. You can trace Noah's son, Noah's grandson, one of his grandsons 983 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:16.359 came to the North Americas. That's where we get some of those early people. 984 01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:20.520 You've got the land bridge. If you look and you chase anthropologically, 985 01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:28.640 you look at people who are from the Pacific Islands against Pacific Northwest coastal Indians 986 01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:35.840 and Native Alaskans, they are pretty much identical. Even some of the ancient 987 01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:45.159 from Pacific Northwest Coast that the Native Americans have some legends and they talk about 988 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.880 the people up further north and they would go up and they'd raid their villages 989 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:53.039 and steal their women, and then they get in their canoes they go back 990 01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:57.079 down the coast to their own villages and they you know, then those people 991 01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:00.680 from up north would come down and steal from their village, and they did 992 01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:08.079 this for hundreds of years. So we're all from the same people. The 993 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:12.600 people on the arc, those eight people, all of us come from those 994 01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:16.479 eight people. There's no reason we ought to have been be fighting. There's 995 01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:26.119 no reason to have that discussion because scripture eliminates the need for that. Well 996 01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:30.760 done, and I'm glad you brought that up as well, because one of 997 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:34.359 the many emails I get that flat Earth has brought them to God. And 998 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:38.079 many of these people have never had a Bible before, and they ask that 999 01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:42.600 question. And I always try to slide in there that I say the King 1000 01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:48.520 James version. But I have mentioned on several occasions that I do think that 1001 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:54.319 post nineteen fifty eight, and you can't put You just can't generalize a date 1002 01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:58.520 on books across the board. But I think nineteen fifty eight is certainly something 1003 01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:02.359 I noticed within the encyclopedias when they started to alter that, And of course 1004 01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:08.840 five years later the entire world changed when they said, see what happens when 1005 01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:13.359 you don't follow us? They did that eleven twenty two sixty three. So 1006 01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:18.159 I tell people you have to be cognizant. There is a lot of older 1007 01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:25.600 texts that you can find on eBay, both encyclopedias and Bibles. But I 1008 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:28.720 don't know if you can just say a certain date, and you mentioned eighty, 1009 01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:31.880 that's probably a good point to go pre nineteen eighty if you're looking for 1010 01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:35.079 that. And that's something I should remember to put in when people ask me 1011 01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:39.720 that question because in addition to King James version, that's just my opinion, 1012 01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:45.600 but that's not just King James. Look at our fictional worlds. So I 1013 01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:48.680 don't know how much of a reader you are. I am made terrible, 1014 01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:56.960 terrible, terrible lever of and I don't want to call them fantasy because I 1015 01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:01.560 don't believe that they are a fantasy at Tolkien. Let's go Tolkien. Tolkien 1016 01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:06.000 wrote basically a fictional history. I mean, right down to creating his own 1017 01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:15.800 languages. Middleer's is flat, Narnia C. S. Lewis Narnia is flat 1018 01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:25.960 and Narnia I. Actually you've got proof in is that the Voyage of the 1019 01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.119 Dawn Tredder. Yes, it is Voyage of the Dawn Tredder. Proof because 1020 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:34.319 they're concerned that when Raby Cheep gets into his little canoe and he gets close 1021 01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:41.119 to the edge, he's going to fall off the edge of the world. 1022 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:44.319 And he's He's like, yeah, that's okay, because I'm going to Aslin's 1023 01:22:44.319 --> 01:22:50.560 country, so let's do it. But they're very careful. Caspian is to 1024 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:55.680 bring his ship only so far, because if he gets too close, he 1025 01:22:55.680 --> 01:23:00.439 doesn't want his ship to go off the edge. With everything else. It's 1026 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:04.319 very interesting. We've got two authors there, two very beloved authors, both 1027 01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:10.560 of them Bible believing Christians. Tolkien was a Catholic, and I want to 1028 01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.399 say C. S. Lewis was Wesleyan. Maybe I may have that wrong, 1029 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:20.600 but he wasn't a Catholic. Both of them Inklings along with people like 1030 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:27.720 T. S. Eliot. Yes, they very very intelligent men, and 1031 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:33.760 they based both of their fictional worlds off of a flat Earth model. And 1032 01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:38.039 it makes you think, it really makes you think, I mean, that 1033 01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:41.239 could be some one of those things. I'm very much I believe that there 1034 01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:44.279 are mysteries, things that we're never going to know till we get to heaven, 1035 01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:47.439 and there's going to be stuff that we thought we knew absolutely was a 1036 01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:51.600 fact, and we're going to get up there and oh boy was I wrong, 1037 01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:57.600 and others that we're going to look at it and be like, you 1038 01:23:57.640 --> 01:23:59.600 know, I'm one of the few that got it right. That's right, 1039 01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:03.279 that's right. And I'm really glad you brought up Lewis because if you ask 1040 01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:06.680 somebody, you know what did cs Lewis Wright. They will tell you that 1041 01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:10.680 the Chronicles of Narnia, right, that was the big one. But you 1042 01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.000 mentioned the screw Tape Letters, and that's one that everybody should really read. 1043 01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:15.880 Oh, they should read that, and they should read The Great Divorce. 1044 01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:19.760 Yep, what are they They're on a bus or a train and they're headed 1045 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:27.000 to hell. And they wrote a whole different language. Now, it's funny 1046 01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:30.359 the way that they spoke less than one hundred years ago and how we speak 1047 01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:32.560 today. We're so lazy. We can't even type laugh out loud, we 1048 01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:39.039 do lol. And the cursive is a law start all these things. But 1049 01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:42.399 anyway, cursive is important though, because how are you going to read the 1050 01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:46.119 ancient documents if you can't read. So that's planned, that is planned, 1051 01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.760 agreed. Take that knowledge away from them, then they have no way. 1052 01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:58.840 And you know that actually brings you to a Tolkien reference early on in The 1053 01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:02.439 Fellowship of the Ring. Things that were forgot, things that never should have 1054 01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:08.640 been forgotten, were forgotten. And that may only be in the movie quote, 1055 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:13.159 but if it's only in the movie, that's a great thing to add, 1056 01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:17.039 because it's an absolute fact. We forget things that we should never forget. 1057 01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:24.319 We should not forget. George Santayana, I think, is the philosopher 1058 01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:29.319 who said that those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. 1059 01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:34.319 Yeah. If we forget things, and we do, we stuff it 1060 01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:39.760 down the memory hole and it's gone, it's gone. That's why I think 1061 01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:43.039 it's important me to jump in. But I think it's important that families need 1062 01:25:43.079 --> 01:25:45.760 to keep their own, their own internal history. That's something my wife and 1063 01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:48.439 I have been doing over the last several years, compiling our own history so 1064 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:53.399 that in you know, forty years, want our children read their history books 1065 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:56.319 and they see there, you know, this is what really happened. I 1066 01:25:56.359 --> 01:26:00.760 mean what you said, Like you said, when we send our our children 1067 01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:05.960 to school, they're being taught a certain version of history that is at best. 1068 01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:11.279 I've come to learn a little bit of truth tainted with a lot of 1069 01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:17.119 lives to fit their agenda. Well, and it's interesting when you start digging 1070 01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:20.680 into your own history and you start looking. My dad started digging into our 1071 01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:27.520 history about ten years ago. One of our family members, one of my 1072 01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:31.199 aunts, we thought was a great historian. We thought she was doing a 1073 01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:35.560 really good job checking our genealogy. Come to find out she was just checking 1074 01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:41.960 our genealogy so that they could baptize all of our dead relatives. That's a 1075 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:47.439 whole other discussion. So my dad started looking into our history and things that 1076 01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:51.359 we had been told and that he had been told by his own grandmother we 1077 01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:56.359 found out weren't true. And like my on my mom's started the family. 1078 01:26:56.399 --> 01:26:59.800 He even started looking on her side, and he dug up Obadiah home. 1079 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.520 Well, if you know anything about church history and Christianity in the United States, 1080 01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:11.319 Obadiah Holmes is actually pretty interesting character. He had something to do with 1081 01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:15.479 the clause of freedom of religion, you know, will not freedom of religion. 1082 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:20.640 That basically the clause in the Constitution that says that he can't create a 1083 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:26.039 state government or not a state government. Oh boy, might flub in my 1084 01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:30.039 words, a state religion, state religion, that's what it is. But 1085 01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:36.640 he also he was whipped at a whipping post publicly over his choice on paying 1086 01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:43.640 taxes. And he was one of those early firebrand fire and brimstone. He 1087 01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:48.399 wasn't a Puritan, he wasn't He was probably an Anabaptist at heart, but 1088 01:27:48.760 --> 01:27:56.039 definitely not the kind of Christian. He left England because he wasn't the kind 1089 01:27:56.039 --> 01:28:00.960 of Christian they wanted in England, and then apparently he still wasn't the kind 1090 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:06.640 of Christian they wanted once he got to North America. And you've got to 1091 01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:10.880 know your history. You need to know who your historical figures are. You 1092 01:28:10.960 --> 01:28:15.279 need to know where you come from. And that goes back to Genesis. 1093 01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:17.239 Yet again, everything seems to lead back to Genesis. Why is that? 1094 01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:21.680 It must be pretty interesting? You know, there must be something to it. 1095 01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:26.319 That's what I think I told you. I keep going back there over 1096 01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:31.800 the last three years. I am almost stuck in Genesis because it matters so 1097 01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:38.399 much. It matters. It matters because if you obscure God, if you 1098 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:45.079 hide God, if you can convince everyone that they live on a ball that's 1099 01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:53.439 spinning at breakneck speed and being hurled through and ever expanding universe, and then 1100 01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:58.079 you convince everyone that God is not there, or he's dead, or he 1101 01:28:58.079 --> 01:29:00.800 doesn't care about you, or that he screwed up and made a mistake, 1102 01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:10.119 then what hope do you have? What hope is there? He's obviously not 1103 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:15.319 a good God because he can screw up. And if he's not a good 1104 01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:20.760 God, then should you serve him. Why would you if he's a liar, 1105 01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:27.119 Why would you serve a liar. I don't want to serve a liar. 1106 01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:31.920 That's right. That's really spot on everything that you just said. And 1107 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:36.800 you know, if just ten percent, then that's probably even high. Five 1108 01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:42.720 percent of the people had the same conviction of homes. You know, he 1109 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:45.159 said, okay, give me a wish the kids out of public school. 1110 01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.760 Yeah, yeah, that was four hundred years ago, a little less than 1111 01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:51.479 four hundred. I think it needs to be said from the pulpit. They 1112 01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:55.039 need to say it from the pulpit. It needs to be said from the 1113 01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:58.600 pulpit, and it needs to be loud. Get your kids out of public 1114 01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:00.840 school. Whether or not you believe the earth is flat, sure, that's 1115 01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:04.039 neither here. There are there. I don't believe it's salvafic. Is it 1116 01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:10.800 heliocentric or geocentric? That's also not selvific. The five soulas are the criteria 1117 01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:19.600 for salvation. Christ alone, to his glory alone, Scripture alone, that's 1118 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:27.560 salvific. But if you send your child into their education camp, you cannot 1119 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:32.359 be surprised when they come back and look at you and go, well, 1120 01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:36.960 not only are you stupid. But God is dead. You're a racist, 1121 01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:43.079 and God makes mistakes, if there is a God. And I'm not going 1122 01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:47.000 to listen to anything you say to me because my teachers are science and I 1123 01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:53.479 believe the science. Yep. And that's where we're at to be surprised. 1124 01:30:53.560 --> 01:30:57.279 Yeah, and that's why they got away with twenty twenty to put a perfect 1125 01:30:57.279 --> 01:31:00.479 boat on it. Really is you can You're right because he has the white 1126 01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:04.000 lab. Coach. Joseph Stalin said it first, and I think, kiss, 1127 01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:08.079 you're picked it up. But that if I can, if you just 1128 01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:12.800 give me your children, give me your children for seven to ten years, 1129 01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:20.600 and I will completely change their minds. Yep. Indeed, it's that's a 1130 01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:26.159 misquote, but I know it's Stalin that said it. Yeah, I know 1131 01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:30.239 what I know. Yeah, you are a wealth of knowledge. This has 1132 01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:33.039 been a tremendous interview in this ninety minutes has flown by. But I didn't 1133 01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:36.000 give you the opportunity. Oh, holy catfish, what was there? Was 1134 01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:39.720 there a nugget or two that you wanted to to share with the folks, 1135 01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.079 And I'd love to bring it back for a part two down the road. 1136 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:47.520 That this has been really wonderful yeah, any time you want a nugget. 1137 01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:54.960 My biggest thing yet, just educate your kids yourself, because if you send 1138 01:31:54.960 --> 01:32:00.840 them into the public education, you you know that they're not going to be 1139 01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:05.079 taught genesis, and it is important to teach genesis. Genesis must be taught 1140 01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:11.159 as history. We have to go back to teaching theory as theory sciences. 1141 01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:16.800 You know there is science, but is it reliable? Can you reproduce it? 1142 01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:21.479 And that used to be the scientific standard was is your are your results 1143 01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:30.000 reproducible? Well, we it's all theory. Almost everything your child is learning 1144 01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:34.199 is theory in science in school. So teach them at home. Teach them 1145 01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:41.000 about genesis. Teach them that creation is factual, it is historicity, It 1146 01:32:41.079 --> 01:32:50.560 is the breathed word of God. It is immutable in errant. And buy 1147 01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:54.920 old books. That's a big one too. Buy old books. Do not 1148 01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:59.560 buy the new versions. Buy them as old as you can afford to buy. 1149 01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:02.760 I just bought Little House in the Prairie two years ago, and I 1150 01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:12.000 bought a nineteen sixties library edition, and it is vastly different than today's version. 1151 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.039 Same thing with My Chronicles and Arnie and Lord of the Rings. I 1152 01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:20.119 buy the older versions buy the older ones. Is there a certain place is 1153 01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:23.119 going to see a difference? Do you go to like eBay? Or is 1154 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:26.239 there a certain bookstore that you buy from bay eBay? Okay, that's what 1155 01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:30.880 I do to eBay. eBay. There is, though my brother gave me 1156 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:33.439 a link and I can't find it. Or I would give it to you, 1157 01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:36.159 you'd have to get it from David. There is another place that you 1158 01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:41.159 can buy old books though on online. You can also get on my know 1159 01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:45.880 from Powell's. Yes, it's Powell's book. You can buy old Powell's books. 1160 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:47.239 You can buy old books through them too, but they're a little more 1161 01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:51.319 expensive than eBay. Okay, I'd rather I watch eBay. The other thing 1162 01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:57.439 I do much to my husband's sugarn. We're going to garage sales. I 1163 01:33:57.479 --> 01:34:00.760 see a box of books, I might look at the top the books and 1164 01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:01.920 I see a few that I like, and I just buy the whole box. 1165 01:34:02.199 --> 01:34:04.720 Yeah, just make an offers ten bucks for all of them or whatever. 1166 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:08.920 Right, Yeah, I'll take all your books and then I just give 1167 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:16.680 away what I don't want on the buy nothing site on Facebook. Well done, 1168 01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:20.960 well, this has been a tremendous ninety minutes you're a wealth of information 1169 01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:26.199 and we're going to put your kind. No, this was really a lot 1170 01:34:26.239 --> 01:34:30.840 of fun, a great conversation, and Rebecca's email address will be in the 1171 01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:33.880 show description and I'm sure a lot of people will be reaching out to you. 1172 01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:42.399 And again i'd like to give you the last word today. It's in 1173 01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:46.039 It's in the Bible or something. Look it up, stay, stay, 1174 01:34:46.239 --> 01:34:53.439 you know, measured against scripture, it's always gonna if if you can find 1175 01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:58.039 it there, then it's real. Oh my gosh, sorry, my robot's 1176 01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:05.119 going crazy. Nowhere, all right, that's my last word. I'll find 1177 01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:09.439 it in scripture. Is your there? Well, again, you've been a 1178 01:35:09.479 --> 01:35:13.600 tremendous guest and God bless you. Thank you for taking the time to come 1179 01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:18.399 on. And again thank Dave from Alaska for I think he's the one who 1180 01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:24.199 kind of reached out and recommended the podcast and we were able to connect and 1181 01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.680 to get you one. And I'm sure that you'll have a lot of people 1182 01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:34.479 reach out to you and you'll have a lot of great conversations with our with 1183 01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:38.319 all of our guests. So again, Rebecca, thank you so much. 1184 01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:42.000 God bless you. And to all the listeners, hey, thank you guys, 1185 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:45.479 come on and join the program. We're getting through our list. We 1186 01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:47.000 still have a little bit of a waiting list where we're working on it as 1187 01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:50.000 best as we can. I'm back one hundred percent healthy, now ready to 1188 01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:53.840 go, So I'll start doing three or four more a week at least. 1189 01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:56.720 I'll try to with the schedule. Of course, the other podcast and world 1190 01:35:56.760 --> 01:36:00.680 events. You know, it's like balancing trying to keep a balloons in the 1191 01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:03.439 air without letting them touch the ground with everything going on, but we'll continue 1192 01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:10.159 to do our best. Just pray and thank you all again for your continued 1193 01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:13.920 support. And you know how to find me the email address, the website. 1194 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:16.800 Stop by and say hello for Rebecca. I'm George again. God bless 1195 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:20.079 each and every one of you. And until the next time, my friends, 1196 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:30.119 we will see feel it tell down all the way. Yeah, I 1197 01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:40.159 know you feel them a you smile. Ain't the same I saw when to 1198 01:36:40.359 --> 01:36:48.920 go from you feel like you've lost your way. Don't give it, No, 1199 01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:56.000 don't give it. He never is home. Don't let call the primise. 1200 01:36:56.640 --> 01:37:00.640 It ain't done yet, He's gone. I'm plaid. Why it's a 1201 01:37:00.800 --> 01:37:18.159 way, got up, may come. Why it's right God called I can 1202 01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:27.159 see the straight beside you. Child's are putting up five. Oh, you're 1203 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:31.680 stronger than a thing. You are. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. 1204 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:42.840 You're accepting a dead found beautiful. You're shot in right, Yeah, 1205 01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:47.760 you're living, breathing, moving, you can hold your head a pie. 1206 01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:58.239 Don't give up, No, don't give in. Nevertheless home, don't they 1207 01:37:58.399 --> 01:38:02.399 gone on the prime. It ain't done yet? This god or Clay, 1208 01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:09.960 why some raintail, the god of Mabe come, don't give up, No, 1209 01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:15.000 don't give in you never love home, don't let go on the primise. 1210 01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:20.880 It ain't got life. It's worth living. W a waytail, the 1211 01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:31.119 god of baby Colt. Why sur pray down? Got up steaming cold? 1212 01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:40.119 Oh? Yes, what a pray down? The god of baby Colt. 1213 01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:57.920 Oh yeah, got team called. Oh, don't give up, No, 1214 01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:03.079 don't give in, never the soul? Do they goal of the primise? 1215 01:39:03.359 --> 01:39:11.760 I made a dun Y's got a playing waits and the god of if it 1216 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:17.039 comes and don't give up, no dog giving, never the soul. Don't 1217 01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:25.640 let go of the primes getting done? Lovers worth living, Watson and Doe, 1218 01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:40.520 the god of every coors, Oh, the god of needs cos whaits 1219 01:39:41.359 --> 01:39:58.439 done, the God of you're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just 1220 01:39:58.560 --> 01:39:59.399 the facts, ma'am.