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Okay, three two one, we
are live, hello, and tonight,

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I've got some very interesting videos to
play for you, and I'm going to

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read you a little section going right
back to that Transhumanism The History of a

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Dangerous Idea by David Livingstone. Now
here's some really good information, good news.

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I just found an interview that he
did with my friend William Ramsey,

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my acquaintance. I think we're friends. We email a lot, and he

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is. It's three years ago.
It's about his book Order op Ko,

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not the Transhumanism the History of a
Dangerous Idea. But I just reached out

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to him because I found his email
of his website through that William Ramsey episode.

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So hopefully we will get David Livingstone
on here. No promises until it

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happens, but that's pretty exciting.
I'm glad. I was actually fine,

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finally able to find contact info for
him. Now, if anybody out there

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is listening, and they can do
me a just a neat little favor of

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letting me know in the comments on
the live stream whether or not they can

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hear me, okay, because to
me, my mic sounds funny. It

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sounds like it's low or something,
and I don't know why that is.

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U. Yeah, just it doesn't
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It sounds maybe a little buzzy.
I don't know. It could just be

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the headphones. I don't know.
But let's go ahead and get this started.

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I have a little bit to read
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from there. Let me pull up
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I can look at and we are
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like I said, if anyone out
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live chat and they can just type
in how the audio is, it's always

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nice to have that type of feedback, so I know if I need to

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make adjustments so it doesn't ruin your
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do like this like that? Okay, So when you go to simperfryllc dot

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why don't we do that so I
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down here, and I should have
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I'll do that when I get done. So right here you see it,

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click it boom, right and there's
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too. All right, So when
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This is a brand new page I
just put on today. You click that

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and look at that. There is
a calendar and I will put one up

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every month. But there's a calendar
now that tells you who is going to

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be on and what times, So
these will all apply to the Rumble,

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and I guess Facebook as well and
X when they don't discontinue the stream.

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They haven't. They've been pretty good
about it so far. But the red

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means I'm the guest, so you're
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channel. The black they're the guests, So that's when these ones would play.

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Tomorrow, I have Todd Wood coming
on. He's he does a podcast

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called Kilifornia on what's his name,
The Walter Bosley Channel, So he's going

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to be on to talk about colts
and some strange esoteric oddities going on,

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right, cult, ritual murders,
all that good stuff. And I say

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that in just all that terrible stuff
when day a cult rejects a fellow New

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Yorker is going to be on.
Now, these times here are are for

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me in Arizona. But I have
a little key up here says times in

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Arizona. You subtract one hour for
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to start at that time, and
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here for the East coast. You
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and then there you go. We
got the cult reject doctor Peter Glinnon

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coming on every Thursday. Ralph Ellis, the author of Jesus King of Edessa,

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is going to be on on Friday, and then I'm gonna be on

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Tradcat Night, and I'm gonna be
on with Niche this Monday, this coming

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Monday, and I don't have anything
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next two Thursdays. That might get
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is what we've got for a calendar, so you can start to see when

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to show up and when to get
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it's all right here for you.
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for Semper fryllc dot com. I
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my podcasts. Now, these are
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link to that. So there you
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kind of sort of have a website
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it just had to incorporate it.
I wasn't sure if I wanted to

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mix two worlds and two genres because
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you know, isn't exactly you know
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will cancel you because you know,
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hot sauce tastes good or it doesn't. They don't. People don't need to

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know what your you know, what
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you share them, you run no
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very good happening. Right. So
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like I need to have something up
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So there you have it. Now
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it's gonna be fine. I think
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And these are all clickable, by
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that because then you get two more
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on that Thursday for an hour.
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this one is for Doctor Monzo,
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Ages. All these pictures you can
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away from Doctor Monzo's that you at
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you can use it when you get
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pretty cool. I'm pretty excited about
this. I had to readjust the picture

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and everything to get it to kind
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I think this looks nice. It's
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ever decided to integrate Rumble with it, I'll do that too, but we'll

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see. It's something for now.
And I think the calendar is a big

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deal. I think that'll help out
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you the tabs real quick before we
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of this episode here, the art
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and the shattering of reality with Recluse. This is William Rams episode. We're

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gonna watch a little bit of that. Possibly the one that I was I

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grabbed for the main event was Dazed
but not Confused channel and it is called

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Connecting the Cults Number one manson Scientology
and the Processed Church. That one has

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a lot of potential of being very, very good, and so we're probably

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gonna jump into that one mainly.
But having just now found where is it?

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Uh, I think it's behind it. Actually get out of the way.

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Yeah, this one right here,
author David Livingstone discusses his new work

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Order ob Ko. Now this was
three years ago, so it's not quite

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new anymore. But that's where we're
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because this is all going to tell
the same story and fill in lots of

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details and this is should be a
very well rounded, fun episode here.

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All right, once again, if
anyone can just throw into the live chat,

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let me know, how's the audio
sound, because it sounds very strange

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to me, No, very very
strange. I don't think it's my voice.

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I think it's the pickups or something
on what's going on? All right?

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We are going to begin tonight with
a little reading and that is going

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to come from none other than David
Livingston's Transhumanism. I get into this book

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a lot here because it is a
wealth of information David Livingstone Excerpts from his

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other lectures, presentations or whatever,
have actually landed on episodes of Atlantean Gardens

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slash Robert Sepper. He has two
channels. He kind of just you know,

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he puts one up on one or
the other, kind of like a

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backup. Okay, So I'm gonna
start here and it's gonna sound disjointed until

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you get all the other added details
coming into these you know, when we

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ventured these videos. So it says
Angleton explains Francis stonor Saunders was a vital

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link in what was to become known
as the PE source PEA standing for Professor,

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referring to the CIA's connection with the
Ivy League. Intellectuals or a certain

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sort of intellectuals have always had a
romance about intelligence services, remarked Carol Brightman.

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It's a kind of coming of age
experience going into the intelligence services,

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especially on certain campuses such as Yale, Scotland, Bolones Russell trust that straight

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up illuminati. The intersection of artists
and intelligence has a long tradition, with

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past examples including Somerset David or what
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reason why I said that about the
Russell Trust. Anyway, The intersection of

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artists and intelligence has a long tradition, with past examples including Somerset Moham working

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for the British Secret Service during World
War One, Graham Green working undercovered for

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MI I five, and Joseph Conrad
for MI six. Others also included Ian

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Fleming. Now that name should sound
familiar to you if you ever read a

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James Bond novel, and John lecar
Lecare, one of Engleton's several proteges.

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Cord Meyer had edited the Yale lit
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Atlantic Atlantis, you understand what's going
on there? Before joining the CIA at

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the invitation of Alan Dulles. According
to Deborah Davis in her nineteen seventy nine

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book Catherine the Great, Meyer became
the principal operative of Operation Mockingbird, headed

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by Frank Weisner, a project of
the CIA which successfully infiltrated the media and

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film industry. There was also E. Howard Hunt, notorious CIA spy,

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as well as author of East of
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Town, which won him a Guggenheim
Fellowship. They love giving each other awards.

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Hunt would later become infamous as a
possible suspect in the jfk assassination and

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one of the Watergate plumbers along with
G. Gordon Liddy. Hunt was an

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intimate friend of skulln Bones member and
Knight of Malta William F. Buckley,

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who founded the political magazine National Review
in nineteen fifty five. And remember,

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we think that these people are conservatives, they're just controlled opposition. They're both

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sides. They talk out of both
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there's a choice. Synthesis comes from
the antithesis and the thesis, right,

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So they're the thesis and they're the
antithys or anti thesis if you want to

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pronounce it that way. And that
holds chow still. The people that we

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think that are, you know,
against Boyden or whatever ridiculous political you know

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construct we have in our minds.
They're out there talk about exactly what they

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want you to know about and think
about, but nothing else. It's about

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the limitation of where you go with
those conservative views of yours, which had

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a major impact in stimulating the conservative
movement. Yes In nineteen fifty one,

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like some of his classmates in the
Ivy League, Buckley was recruited into the

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CIA, where he served for two
years, including one year in Mexico City,

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as a politician, sorry a political
action specialist in the elite Special Activities

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Division, where Hunt was his immediate
boss, E Howard Hunt. At the

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time, Hunt was helping to devise
Operation PB Success, the successful covert plan

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to overthrow Jacob Arbins, the democratically
elected president of Guatemalaw. Now we're going

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to slide packs here. Some of
this stuff is, but it's not what

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we're going with tonight. I mean, there is something here about Knight of

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Malta, the P two and all
that, but we need to go into

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right here. When Martin Lee,
author of Acid Dreams, The Complete Social

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History of LSD the CIA, the
sixties and beyond, was asked as to

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whether or not he discovered the involvement
of secret societies in MK Ultra, he

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answered that he in fact had,
but chose not to include that information in

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his book. However, he explained
to his interviewer regarding secret societies, well,

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when he comes down to it,
the CIA is a secret society,

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and within the CIA there are all
kinds of secret societies operating. The Freemasons

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are in the CIA, the Knights
of Malta are in the CIA, and

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other groups. These different secret society
are not just within the CIA, but

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in the corporate world, the Joint
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Defense Department, etc. These societies, if we understood them, might help

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delineate certain factions within the power elite. I think it works on two levels.

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For the proletariat. For the rest
of us, the rotary masonry doesn't

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really mean anything but on the very
highest levels when you are dealing with very

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influential and powerful individuals at that level, perhaps studying these different groups can shed

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some light on understanding different factions within
the ruling elite. Lee also reports that,

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according to Captain al Hubbard, a
CIA spy also known as the Johnny

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Appleseed of LSD. Albert Hoffman,
the Swiss scientist who discovered LSD, was

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part of a small group connected with
Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy in the early nineteen thirties

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who set out to make a piece
pill to help mankind. Seeing the beginning

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of the Nazi regime, they consciously
set out to make something like LSD,

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after which they did. After which
they did, they kept it in secret

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for the world. Lysergic acid die
Diethelmide or LSD had been developed in nineteen

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forty three by Hoffman working as a
chemist at sandoz Ab air base. I

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guess a Swiss pharmaceutical house owned by
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name sounds familiar, doesn't it.
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in nineteen thirty eight from ergotamine,
a chemical derived by Arthur Stole from ergat,

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a grain fungus that typically grows on
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was linked through cartel agreements to ig
Farbin, which throughout the nineteen thirty has

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maintained a special secret division devoted to
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Experiments with mescalin were carried out on
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Dacau. Lee concluded that Early concludes
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Nazi high command was already aware of
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Dulas was chief of the OSS and
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That's where the kinder fresher is.
Guys that fountain of the guy sitting

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atop the fountain with the children crawling
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he's eating one of them. That's
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eater. During World War Two,
Dulas was chief of the OSS and stationed

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in burn and one of his I
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One of his. One of his
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was James Werburg. DoLS had visited
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to gain direct knowledge of the uses
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from LSD on April twentieth, that's
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Funny enough, right on April twentieth, nineteen fifty, the CIA under

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Dulles approved a project for the Intelligence
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a secret operation known as Bluebird.
Do you know what else is significant about

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April twentieth. It's my mom's birthday. It's also the birthday of not nineteen

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fifty, but April twentieth is the
birthday of Adolf Hitler. Yes, my

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mom shares a birthday with him.
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Dulls ordered Richard Helms, head of
the Office of Scientific Intelligence, to begin

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the research program under Sydney for Research
to develop a capability in the covert use

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of biological and chemical materials. Dubbed
mk Ultra, the project's ostensible aim was

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to develop mind controlling drugs for the
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response to Soviet, Chinese, and
North Korean use of such techniques on American

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prisoners of war in North Korea.
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the use of many methodologies to manipulate
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including the surreptitious sorry my, surreptitious
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sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and
sexual abuse, as well as various

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forms of torture that all sounds quite
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LSD to CIA employees, military personnel, doctors, other government agents, and

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members of the general public in order
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unwitting. Can you it's it's It's
difficult enough to willingly and and and consciously

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know that you're about to take a
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you don't know what's happening to you. That's and you have no frame of

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reference to uh base it on,
because it's not something you've done before or

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experienced. That's that's enough to make
anybody feel like they're going crazy. While

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tests were conducted on criminals from the
mafia, the CIA thought it thought it

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imprudent to further tamper with the organization
instead of Instead, they chose the borderline

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underworld prostitutes, drug addicts, mentally
ill patients, and other fringe types who

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would be powerless to defend themselves if
they ever found out what the CIA had

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done to them. And that is, I believe line straight out of a

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documentary that I've watched and rewatched recently. Hold on mk Ultra truly began.

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Truly began in nineteen fifty two,
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States, accompanied by doctor Humphrey Osmond, who was who was brought but brought

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in by Dulles to play a prominent
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two, collaborating with Abraham and Sorry
Abraham Hoffer and others, Osmon began working

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with psychedelics, particularly mescalin and LSD
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would cause it. I don't know
how we'd cure it. At Weyburn Mental

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Hospital in Saskatchewan, Canada. This
is that. This is where you get

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that as a giant West or it's
the other guy. Osmond related in similarity,

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related the similarity of mescal into adrenaline
molecules in a theory which implied that

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schizophrenia might be a form of self
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sane person to see through the eyes
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used to train doctors and nurses to
better understand their patients. I don't understand

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you're crazy. Let me get as
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I can probably understand what you're doing. Osmond was one of the first to

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begin using the term psychotemmetric and I'm
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or psychosis inducing, which was later
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purposes. It was John smith He's
a former colleague of Osmond, who recommended

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to Huxley that he experimented with mescaline. Smithy's was a cousin to Huxley's friend

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Christopher Isherwood, as well as Richard
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guy that's on PBS. Huxley first
became a probably know. Huxley first became

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aware of mescaline, the active ingredient
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written by Osmond, and Huxley sent
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himself as an experimental project subject.
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in the idea that the brain is
a reducing valve that restricts consciousness, and

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he hoped Mesklin might help access a
greater degree of awareness, and nineteen fifty

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three Osman gave Huxley a supply of
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year. The Doors of Perception,
a title drawn from a poem by William

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Blake, Huxley claim that hallucinogenic drugs
expand consciousness. That's where the band got

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their name for the Doors Too from
the William Blake poem. Huxley makes a

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typical comparison of likening the mystical experience
to schizophrenia. Schizophrenic is like a man

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permanently under the influence of mescaline and
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a reality which he is not wholly
enough to live with, which he cannot

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explain away, and which scares him
into interpreting its unremitting strangeness, its burning

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intensity of significance, as the manifestations
of human or even cosmic malevolence, calling

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for the most desperate of countermeasures,
from murderous violence at one end of the

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scale, to catatonia or psychological suicide
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five, Huxley had an experience while
on Ellis that he considered more profound than

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those detailed in the Doors of Perception. The man who introduced both Osmond and

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Huxley to LSD was Alfred Hubbard,
who had worked for the OSS during the

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war as a special investigative agent.
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for the Canadian Special Services, the
US Justice Department, and the US Bureau

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of Alcohol tobacco and firearms. Jesiste
those people. Hubbard, who is known

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as the Johnny Appleseed of LSD,
became an apostle for LSD in the early

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nineteen fifties after supposedly receiving an angelic
vision telling him that something important for the

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future of mankind would soon be coming. When he first read about LSD,

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he immediately identified it as part of
that vision and tried tried it for himself

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in nineteen fifty one through his extensive
connected connections, which included the Pope,

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Which included the Pope because he's a
Knight of Malta. Yeah, as he

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once boasted, he has been credited
with turning on as many as six thousand

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people to LSD. And we can
probably cut it there. Let me just

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look real quick. Yes, that's
probably a good spot to set this one

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down for now, and we'll go
back to let me go ahead and get

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this well yeah, okay, gotcha, bun, thanks, All right,

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let's go to the video. Is
now what you want me doing next?

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I think we should get a little
bit of the cy war. Yeah.

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So this guy, this guy,
the one that says connecting called manson scientology

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and the processed church, he's a
little different his personality, So we'll start

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with that one and then we'll get
into the other ones. I'll probably not

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can live much. The whole thing
has gone a long Let's see what get

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the gist out of this one first
and just about bust out of live stream

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covering all the information I wanted to
cover. And this is only going to

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be part one of probably about three
maybe four parts, because we're barely going

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to even get into the beginning of
the story, which is Charles Manson.

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We have to kind of work backwards
and what the hell are we covering today?

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The cults of the sixties basically,
and all the things that surround that.

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Specifically that includes Charles Manson his connections
to scientology and the processed Church,

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and that will take us into the
seventies when the serial killer phenomena kicks off,

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and specifically David Berkowitz or the son
of Sam Killer. And like I

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said, there's so many docs dots
to connect that we're going to go slowly

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and work our way into this.
I think we'll really hit our stride in

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part two. But the reason being
is because you can see here, I

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mean, remove the chat for a
second, We're going to be starting off

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with Charles Manson, and the story
of Charles Manson is an endlessly fascinating one.

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It's also a story that is difficult
to tell in linear fashion because Charlie

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and his victims were connected to so
many people on so many different levels.

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And how many of you guys.
The craziest conspiracy theory that I have seen

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over the years is this one by
Miles Mathis. I don't know if you

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guys have read this or not.
Let me know in the chat if you

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have, but this one posits that
the Manson murders were actually staged. I

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don't personally believe that. I've gone
back to this document throughout the years,

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and there's some very interesting anomalies.
We might actually cover some of this shit,

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but it doesn't white hole water in
terms of it being faked. I

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do believe that the murders happened.
But like I said, there's some interesting

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stuff in here, and I'm sure
some of you guys will in the audience

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will know about this. Anyways,
Where to start here? Where to start?

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Okay, all right, we're gonna
start here again. We're working backwards.

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So what on earth does the son
of Sam had to do with fucking

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scientology in the process. Son of
Sam refers to David Berkowitz, and I'm

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sure you guys know the story behind
him. How supposedly he was the lone

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killer in the Son of Sam murders
in the seventies. Okay, so let's

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go. So what Son of Sam
leaves out about the process and its scientology

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connection. This is in reference to
a documentary that came out May twenty twenty

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one on Netflix, which is definitely
worth watching. Although they throw the creator

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of this, Marey Terry, who's
the author that this is based on,

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They threw him under the bus a
little bit at the end and kind of

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try to discredit him. But nonetheless, the book and the documentary series is

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well worth reading slash watching. So
I might as well actually show you the

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trailer first to that, and then
I'll read to you the jumping off point

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and we can start going deeper into
this. You guys are definitely gonna hear

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some interesting information about scientology, the
process, and manson today. But we're

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just getting started in a certain way. So here's the trailer. Run from

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me Darla, a killer on the
loose in New York for a year and

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three days. Ye Lie, is
David Berkowitz, the man police believe to

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be the son of Sam. You
better run. They totally ignored the true

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story of this case. God damn
it, I'm gonna have to start that

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over. Sorry about that. I
don't want it to buffer, so I'm

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trying to figure out the right setting, so the damn thing doesn't buffer.

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This will probably work right here.
So here we go. Run from me,

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darling. A killer a loose in
New York for a year and three

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days is David Berkowitz, the man
police believe be the son of Sam.

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You better run for your life.
They totally ignored the true story of this

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case. Once they named Berkowitz,
it was like, Hall lujah, we

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got our bad guy. Everybody can
walk the streets again. The city of

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New York can rest easy. There
were real questions in this case. Why

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do the police not investigate more?
You're not going to stakes Berkowitz for being

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six feet tall and long prospects dying
accident? They were eight attacks? Would

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you do all? I did not
pull the trigger and every single one of

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them. The most serial killer in
New York City didn't build it on his

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own. This is huge, son
of Sam is not over. Son of

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Sam still exists. Work are wizards
claiming members of a Satanic cult helped in

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the murder of six people. I
could feel the darkness and this group is

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all over the street. There the
voted to bringing on the end of the

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world. Is there a link between
the mansion killings and the same killing?

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More wants to command, but nobody
would listen for case went off the rails

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of the bad people more scared than
this is still happening in prison. Who's

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still out there? You better run
for your life. Okay, guys,

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is that buffering at all on your
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But I want to make sure that
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and I want to make sure it's
not buffering too much. I got to

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try out new settings. So what
the hell does that have to do with

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what we're talking about. Let us
get into it. So here we go.

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What Son of Sam leaves out about
the process and its scientology connection.

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Now, that's in reference to the
Processed Church of the Final Judgment, which,

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as you learn about, is an
offsheet of scientology. The Sons of

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Sam introduces viewers to the Processed Church
of the Final Judgment. And here's what

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the Netflix documentary leaves out about the
about the movement. Supposedly, you guys

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might recognize that from the thumbnail the
Sons of Sam I Descend into Darkness introduces

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viewers to the Processed Church of the
Final Judgment, but a lot gets left

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out about the movements and its roots
in Scientology. Netflix docuseries is largely told

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from the perspective of journalist Maury Terry, who dedicated his life to the Son

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of Sam case, hoping to prove
that David Berkowitz didn't act alone. Terry's

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research into the alleged cult members John
and Michael Carr, who Berkowitz claimed were

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co conspirators to his crimes, revealed
a past link to the Scientology Church and

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an offshoot branch known as the Process
Church. Now, before we get deeper

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into this, Michael Carr was a
high level scientologist. He's the one that

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supposedly introduced David Berkowitz to the Son
of Sam Colt, which is an offshoot

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of the Process, which is an
offshoot of Scientology. He got a suppressive

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declare from Hubbard, got booted out
and joined, like I said, allegedly

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an offshoot of the Processed Church.
I hope that makes sense so far so

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Terry believed that the New York branch
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called the Children, and as you'll
see, that might be more along the

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00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:00.880
lines of an offshoot called the Four
P's of the Sas or the Ching Goon.

403
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:07.559
And Netflix true crime documentary examines Moreitary's
theory that several members of the cult

404
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.599
were behind the nineteen seventies killing spree. I don't mean to interrupt him,

405
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.679
but tomorrow we have Todd Wood coming
on and we're going to talk more about

406
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.480
the four p Colt and this will
all tie into that. This is going

407
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:25.119
to be a really good primer for
our discussion tomorrow. So this is perfect

408
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:30.639
attributed to the Son of Sam.
There's more to the process and it's connections

409
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.920
of scientology than what gets explained.
I have to take a drink of water.

410
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.159
Standby. Let me throw on the
fricking tunes in the background. Most

411
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.480
people didn't find that too annoying,
but if it is, just let me

412
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:46.000
know. Also, it really does
help to drownd out the air conditioner and

413
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:57.800
some of the other shit that feedback
from the computer and whatever. Although the

414
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:05.159
gym isn't necessarily that good. We'll
try different ones, Okay, Come on,

415
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:09.480
buddy. There's more to the processes
and its connections in scientology than what

416
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.000
gets explained in the Sons of Sam. In the early nineteen sixties, newly

417
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:19.360
married scientologists Mary Ann MacLean and Robert
de Grinston used the skills they acquired while

418
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.519
training to become auditors for the Church
of Scientology, along with l Ron Hubbard's

419
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:30.239
Emeter, to create a rogue offshoot
of the church, originally called Compulsions Analysis.

420
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.880
The group's initial ideology blended together therapeutic
processes, hence the name borrowed from

421
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:42.039
Scientology and ideas from psychotherapist Alfred Adler, and he was covered in that little

422
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:46.119
diagram that I showed you from Scientology, who helped establish the field of psychoanalysis

423
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:52.000
alongside Sigmund Freud before breaking away from
the movement to found the Society for Individual

424
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:58.440
Psychology in nineteen twelve. And just
to show you some of the processes that

425
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.360
they used, no pun intend and
how much they are like Scientology, I'm

426
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.719
going to show you some footage that
was put out by a really hard to

427
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:13.360
find movie from the cult itself called
Sympathy for the Devil, and so it's

428
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.239
kind of a pr puff piece by
the cult, but there is some interesting

429
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:21.320
information in it, and you can
also see some of the processes that were

430
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:30.159
used by this cult. I was
afraid. I didn't know what to expect.

431
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:36.920
I had no experience about any kind
of psychological anything. Really went into

432
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:42.159
this room and this was my first
experience of the group. Two rows of

433
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:46.880
chairs. You have to look at
the other person real close without blinking into

434
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:50.679
truth games, so you know,
after a lot of gaze, you were

435
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.480
supposed to say exactly what you felt
about that person, and you're supposed to

436
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:59.400
just be very very open and not
to react to you. I mean,

437
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:04.440
the face opposite me is about here. You had really need to find something

438
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.159
either think, guys, is it
buffering a lot or not? Can you

439
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.840
please let me know because if so, I don't want to you know,

440
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.079
I don't want that to happen,
and I can just put it on a

441
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.880
smaller screen and reduce the resolution if
it is, so, please let me

442
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:20.079
know while you're listening to this if
it's buffering and how bad it's buffering.

443
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:35.599
Thank you? Okay, physical psychological
detailed that would get in you. What

444
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:43.079
a pretty stupid looking thing everyone you're
known as. I mean, really,

445
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.280
just the way your eyebrows troop,
you have scum in the corner of your

446
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.039
eye. This is I'm doing the
tr specifically bull baiting. That nose is

447
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.400
kind of absurd, just sitting there
in the middle of your face, you

448
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:02.000
sink. I mean, really,
anything that you would think wash out right?

449
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.039
It was really. I just want
to make sure the buffering was okay.

450
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.239
So let me take it back a
little bit, and this buffers anyways

451
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.719
just because of this video. But
if you guys can hear it fine and

452
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.360
it's not skipping all over the place, it'll definitely be fine for the rest

453
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.639
of the video. So what if
you're just joining us. We're talking about

454
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:22.719
some of the processes. This includes
the trs and the auditing that you'll see

455
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.760
that the processed Church of the Final
Judgment ripped off from Scientology, huge front

456
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:32.159
door with this weird looking logo on
the front purple. When I arrived in

457
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:43.519
the kind of horror, there was
some touch of sado masochism singbles of dragons

458
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:52.519
and not swastikas, but something close
to swastikas. Because a number of us

459
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.280
were architecture and designers. We kind
of saw things and symbols. The first

460
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.920
symbol I think became out with the
four P of the process face change.

461
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:12.920
We never saw anything like a SWASTI
didn't see it because you had it report

462
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:24.360
everybody else for right now that I
was afraid, I want to expect.

463
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:30.679
I had no experience about any kind
of psychological anything really went into this room,

464
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:37.119
and this was my first experience of
the group two rows of chairs to

465
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:43.119
look at the other person real close
with that blinking into truth game. So

466
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.840
you know, after a lot of
gazing, you were supposed to say exactly

467
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.519
what you felt about that person,
and you're supposed to just be very very

468
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:54.719
open and not to react, you
know, I mean the face opposite me

469
00:42:55.039 --> 00:43:02.519
here, you had really need to
find something either physical psychological detail that would

470
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:14.119
get in. You got a pretty
stip little face. The pr is gross.

471
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.400
I mean really, just the way
your eyebrows droop, You have scum

472
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.320
in the corner of your eye,
noses kind of just sitting there in the

473
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:30.679
middle. Face you stink. I
mean really, anyone could look at you

474
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:36.239
and think wash out right. It
was really, really, really tough to

475
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:43.639
take to be asked this compared to
the culture where you never said something direct

476
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.079
never, you didn't say that in
public to a stranger. The idea is

477
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:53.280
basically to flatten out the reactivity.
And there are not many ways in life

478
00:43:53.320 --> 00:44:00.119
that you can actually push yourself to
the limit in order to learn after what

479
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:01.880
comes down when you're pushing the limit. Yep, that's what I used to

480
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.639
say in justifying scientology. I remember
even talking about that with who fuck was?

481
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.440
I think Andrew gold where you know, he didn't see a problem with

482
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.920
that because we tried to actually do
some of that bull baiting that you just

483
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.559
saw in an interview that we did
a while ago, and it's just it

484
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:21.639
seems like it can help you out. But I would say that it's breaking

485
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:27.920
down the boundaries. And then here's
another example of more scientology in the process.

486
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:34.000
There's no question in my mind that
Robert de Grimston was channeling something.

487
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:43.280
Rot's Rising is fantastic. It has
some quality that bypasses the usual linguistic filters

488
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:49.639
and works directly on the nervous system. This world of men is a play

489
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:59.159
base of dumness and misery and pain
and anguish and hatred and failure for the

490
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:06.800
world man his hell. You guys
might know that guy. He's Genesis p.

491
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.039
Rage. I'll put a video in
the description box where you can link

492
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:15.239
to him. He's a very interesting
character and he sounds so much like when

493
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.840
he speaks, because he kind of
formed his own cult around his rock band.

494
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.840
When he speaks, he sounds like
the same word salad that l Ron

495
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:30.239
Hubbard does. Humanity is the devil. The presence, the feeling there was

496
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.360
very powerful. The thing is I
knew it was a brainwashing cult, but

497
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:39.159
I thought, this is interesting.
What would they do to make me turn

498
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:44.519
out like them? They were all
very, very thicken, and they had

499
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:52.039
this kind of very recognizable mannerism of
the unblinking eye. I gather that they

500
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:58.840
were the impression that they were taking
telepathically another So this was kind of super

501
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:06.400
mind going in the middle of fat
This is a session, and what I

502
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.880
will be doing is here's their session. Man. They do it telepathically.

503
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:14.360
This is totally against the auditor's code, where they actually evaluate for the preaklayer

504
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:22.559
asking a question and then I will
receive telepathically from you the answer for what

505
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.559
was then the equivalent for almost a
week's wage for me for one hour.

506
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.960
I would sit one side of the
desk with a notepad and pen, being

507
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:37.679
asked questions by the telepath. The
first question is what is your most immediate

508
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.320
problem? He would ask me the
question. I would think about it,

509
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.920
realizing I wasn't expected to give an
answer, and then he would tell me

510
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:58.639
the answer that he had elicited from
my unconscious not having enough time, and

511
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:07.119
I would usefully write, yeah,
okay, so why are you not having

512
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:15.719
in time? I mean, it
sounds bonkers, but I lose about myself.

513
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:21.199
I have too many things to do, which I may have turned in

514
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.639
other way, but I learned things
through those sessions. How does that serve

515
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:35.360
you? By having too many things
to do? It kissed me from doing

516
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:42.159
anything. That must look absolutely absurd, But it's just weird. How much

517
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.760
that guys sound like an indie processing
and where Yeah, I got something out

518
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.440
of the tech. You know,
it did seem to happen. Maybe I

519
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.079
couldn't have gotten it elsewhere. Who
knows? Right, anyways, back to

520
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.679
this, So there's more of the
process and it's connections to scientology than what

521
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.920
gets explained in the Sons of Sam. In the early nineteen sixties, newly

522
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:01.920
married scientologists Mary M McLain Androbert de
Grimstead used the skills they acquired while training

523
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:06.880
to become auditors for the Church of
Scientology, along with l Ron Hubbard's Emeter,

524
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.760
to create a rogue offshoot of the
church, Originally called Compulsions Analysis.

525
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.840
The group's initial ideology blended together therapeutic
processes, hence the name brought from Scientology

526
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:22.880
and the ideas from psycho therapist Alan
Adler and we already read that sis Alfred.

527
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.000
Eventually, Compulsions Analysis formed its own
theology centered around four gods, Jesus.

528
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.039
Robert de Grimson was the only one
the leader that was allowed to be

529
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:37.079
Jesus, Jehovah, Lucifer, and
Satan, which has led some religious scholars

530
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.000
to difine the Process as a form
of Satanism as seen in the Suns of

531
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:43.840
sam. By nineteen sixty six,
the Process had become a legitimate church,

532
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.920
with chapters established in at least four
countries, including the New York chapter covered

533
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:52.119
in the Netflix documentary. As the
Process became increasingly evangelistic, it began issuing.

534
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:58.440
A glossy magazine also called the Process, a surprisingly groundbreaking example of independent

535
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:02.559
publishing of the time, with Frank
issue topics like Scientology. The Process also

536
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:07.559
garnered attention from celebrities during the height
of its movement in the sixties and seventies,

537
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.639
including Mick Jagger and Mary Anne Faithful, and Marianne Faithful had to be

538
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.159
kind of rescued from the cult because
her parents were worried about her. It's

539
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:21.400
also true that the Processed Church grew
members began to create new offset factions of

540
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.679
the movement. Again, they splinter
off just like this as a splinter from

541
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:29.159
Scientology, which is where Morey Terry's
theory about that children came from, though

542
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.880
the connection remains difficult to prove.
The so called Processions also denied any connection

543
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.920
to the Manson family, despite the
fact that many people believe Manson was influenced

544
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.960
by the Process. As Netflix,
the Sons of Sama assented to Darkness portrays

545
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.880
he definitely was influenced by the Process
and will be getting into that process.

546
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.679
Magazine editor Malachi McCormick explained how the
Manson rumor got started. According to Art

547
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.719
Forum, McCormick claimed that the Church
of Scientology spread the rumor because, according

548
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.800
to McCormick quote, McLean and Grimston
had stole the tech the E meter and

549
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:06.760
were considered apostates by Hubbard. The
rumors hurt the movement, which declined in

550
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:10.719
popularity after the Manson murders. If
what McCormick claims is true in this way,

551
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:17.199
at least the process never did managed
to escape its Scientology roots. I

552
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.960
don't think that that's quite accurate,
because Scientology would be taking one hell of

553
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:25.760
a chance by trying to discredit him
in that passion. But here's an internal

554
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:34.039
memo you might find this interesting about
let me just say something real quick.

555
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.880
They had to put out so many
fires because of this Processed Church, because

556
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.679
they were not only being linked to
Manson, but as you see David Berkowitz,

557
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.199
and you'll understand why as we go, but they fairgame Moriy Terry set

558
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.199
up a whole fair game campaign against
him. He's the one that wrote this

559
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:55.679
book. Let me grab it.
This book is called The Ultimate Evil,

560
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.519
The Search for the Sons of Sam
and it's kind of a huge book and

561
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.400
it's a hell of a fascinating read. I would say used discernment probably not

562
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.159
all accurate, but this is the
book that kind of started the series and

563
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:14.039
the conspiracy theory about all this and
Scientology has constantly had to put out fires,

564
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.360
whether it was having to do with
Bruce Davis, David Berkowitz, Charles

565
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:21.000
Manson, and a host of other
characters. So check this out. This

566
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.880
is an internal memo of this kind
of coming up and them having to deal

567
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:29.400
with it. Let me throw the
music on real quick, make a drink

568
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.880
of water. What do you guys
want to hear? Chill down, tempo,

569
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:37.960
lounge, hip hop, Lofi,
chill hop, ambient, and future

570
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:46.719
hop. Let's go at chill hop. Okay, Oh, dear God.

571
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:53.920
The following is text of an actual
internal memo recovered from Scientology during the nineteen

572
00:51:53.960 --> 00:52:00.920
seventy seven raid by the FBI of
Scientology's headquarters at that time, Los Angeles.

573
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:07.679
Dear Mary Sue. That's in reference
to Mary Sue Hubbard compliance report,

574
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.760
Ree Manson and Bruce Davis. There
have been numerous new developments on this case

575
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.320
and they are as follows. An
individual by the name of Steve Grogan appeared

576
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:21.480
on our lines. Steve Grogan was
a member of the Manson family and he

577
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:27.440
was an ex Scientologist as well as
Bruce Davis and Paul Watkins. And as

578
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.079
we are going to come to learn, Manson was heavily involved in scientology as

579
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:34.719
well. I received word that he
had made statements that he was a member

580
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:39.239
of Manson's family, and therefore started
some intel action, which at first consisted

581
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.599
of talking to the girls he had
been in contact with. By the time

582
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:47.199
I had finished talking to them,
Grogan had been put away in jail for

583
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:51.840
cartheth. In spite of numerous efforts
on our part, it was impossible to

584
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:53.639
get together with him. I had
the girl he seemed to be most in

585
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:59.440
calm with that means communication, journey
out to the valley on four different occasions

586
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.920
to to to him, and in
spite of our best efforts, he was

587
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.039
never made available. He was either
in court or the jail was under or

588
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.519
the jail was undergoing extensive redecoration.
I think we just lost the uh oh,

589
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.079
it doesn't matter if I lost the
camera. Okay, connections a little

590
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:21.440
bit loose. I think one of
these days I'll get that damn thing fixed.

591
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:27.679
He was either in court or the
jail was undergoing extensive redecoration. Of

592
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:29.960
course we did not want to know, and that a member of the church

593
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.360
was trying to see him. At
the same time this was going on,

594
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.719
we received word that two members of
the Manson family, Squeaky From and Sandy

595
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.880
Good, were staying at the Biking
Hotel on Third and Alvarado, which is

596
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.400
in close proximity to the ORG.
We made no efforts to contact them.

597
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:58.519
Let me blow this up a little
bit, okay. On eighteen June nineteen

598
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.079
eight or is that say night okay? On eighteen June eighty, the following

599
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:05.480
report was received by me. I
don't think that's eighty because that would be

600
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.239
way too late. According to rawl
Rall arrived in prison on McNeil Island,

601
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:15.320
Washington in nineteen sixty two and became
a cellmate of Lafayette Ramier. I don't

602
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:16.760
know if it's Raymier or Ramiir.
I'm not sure how you pronounced that,

603
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:23.119
but that's the guy who introduced Manson
to scientology, allegedly a trained scientology auditor.

604
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:28.719
He is a trained scientology auditor,
and he received something called the Doctor

605
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.719
of Scientology at the time, which
was a certificate that they don't give out

606
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:38.320
anymore. A trained auditor about level
one in Raoul's estimation, and was introduced

607
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:43.320
to scientology at that time. Raymier
was auditing in prison at that time and

608
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.000
in one ten man cell had managed
together had managed to gather a group of

609
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:53.280
about seven all in scientology. Charles
Manson entered later and studied did TR zero

610
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:59.039
et cetera along with his cellmates,
and received approximately one hundred and fifty hours

611
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:01.559
of auditing from Raymier. Let me
throw the chat up here because you guys

612
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:12.760
don't necessarily need to see that.
Okay again, all the links will be

613
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:23.800
in the description box after the video
publishes. So what he did was t

614
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:28.280
R zero along with his cell mates. He received approximately one hundred and fifty

615
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:32.519
hours of auditing from Raymier. Processes
used were CCHS help process, who have

616
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:37.119
you helped and who have you not
helped? And other dichotomy processes Ruel's terms

617
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.960
such as what can you confront and
what would you rather not confront? Having

618
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.119
this such as what can you have? Look around and find something you can

619
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.880
have, look around and find something
you're not in. Rainier kept records of

620
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:53.639
his auditing. Manson got super energetic
and flipped out when he'd been audited and

621
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:58.880
would for a time talk about nothing
but scientology, to the extent that people

622
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.679
avoided his company. Yeah, no
shit. After a while, however,

623
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:06.119
Manson was screaming to get away from
his auditor, and that's because he was

624
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.360
severely overrun. That means if you
run a process too long, they do

625
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:15.960
something in scientology called red tagging you. This happened many times when I was

626
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:20.320
doing sessions. If you go too
far beyond a win or what they call

627
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.719
a floating needle, you can really
go out of your mind, and they

628
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:27.119
have twenty four hours to get you
back in. They put a red tag

629
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.760
on your folder. Otherwise you might
go crazy. You have psychotic breaks often

630
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:35.880
in scientology, and this is their
way of getting you back in to fix

631
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.559
it, get you back in the
trance state, remember the win or the

632
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:47.679
high, and then you won't go
out and become form your own mansonesque cult.

633
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:57.440
Okay. He eventually managed to get
foot in solitary confinement to get away

634
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:02.639
from his auditor. This is why
Manson says scientology is too crazy for him,

635
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.320
because they literally drove him crazy.
Eventually, prison officials got suspicious of

636
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:12.800
the group's strange activities and broke up
the group. Subsequently, Rawl was released

637
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:15.239
from the prison in nineteen sixty five, and Raymier's wife was in training here

638
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:19.960
at the La Orgue in nineteen sixty
five to nineteen sixty six, she had

639
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.719
disconnected from raymier Rall. Just found
out yesterday that another friend, Marvin White,

640
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:30.679
later sent Manson's book books after the
Scientology group was broken up on hypnotism

641
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:36.760
and black magic. That's appropriate enough. Now here we get into some other

642
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:42.639
anomalies that are around Bruce Davis,
who was an ex scientologist at the time

643
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:46.440
that he joined the family, and
he also had connections to the Processed Church.

644
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:54.239
This is from Bugliosi's best selling novel
Helter Skelter, which compared to Tom

645
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:58.679
O'Neil's book is because you kind of
take Tom O'Neil, if you guys have

646
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:04.599
read Chaos, basically takes Bugliosi's book
apart and shows kind of what a fraud

647
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.000
he was. But nonetheless there's a
lot of interesting information in Helter Skelter.

648
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:14.480
The bodies of James Sharp fifteen and
Dreen Gall nineteen were found in an alley

649
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:19.159
in downtown Los Angeles. The two
teenagers have been killed elsewhere with a long

650
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.880
bladed knife or bayonet, then dumped
there. Each had been stabbed over fifty

651
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:27.719
times. See this is why we
got to have some music in the background

652
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:36.239
or try to lighten things up because
trigger warning, this is kind of heavy.

653
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:40.599
Rampart's Division Lieutenant Earl Deemer investigated the
Sharp Gall murders, as did Los

654
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:47.039
Angeles Time reporter Cohen. Although this
is not let me actually turn this off,

655
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.840
it's not appropriate. Both James Sharp
and Doreen Gall were scientologists, the

656
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.000
latter of scientologists Clear, who had
been residing in a Church of Scientology house.

657
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:07.440
According to unconfirmed reports, Dereen Gall
was a former girlfriend of Manson family

658
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:13.719
member Bruce Davis, himself an ex
scientologist. Davis's whereabouts at the time of

659
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.760
the murders of Sharp, Gall and
Jane Doe fifty nine are not known.

660
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:23.000
He disappeared shortly after being questioned in
connection with the death of Zero. On

661
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:29.000
December one, nineteen sixty nine,
Joeldine Pugh, husband of family member Sander

662
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:32.360
Sandy Good, was found with his
throat slit in a London hotel room.

663
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:37.960
As noted, local police ruled the
death of suicide on learning a fuse demise.

664
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:44.119
Inno County DA Frank Fowls made official
inquiries, specifically asking interpal to check

665
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:47.599
visas to determine if one Bruce Davis
was in England at the time. Scotland

666
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:52.840
Yard replied as follows quote. It's
been established that David is recorded as embarking

667
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:58.360
at London Airport for the United States
of America on April twenty fifth, nineteen

668
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.239
sixty nine, while holding the United
States passport blah blah blah. At this

669
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:07.079
time he gave his address as Dormer
Cottage, Fellbridge, Surrey. This address

670
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.280
is owned by the Scientology movement and
houses followers of this organization. From Paul

671
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:15.039
Atte Cooper's a Scandal of Scientology,
another bit of publicity that the scientologists are

672
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:20.760
probably not too pleased with. Concerns
the murder of three people in Los Angeles,

673
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:27.280
two were scientologists. And then I'll
go ahead and linked this in the

674
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.239
description boxes. We have a lot
more to cover, but here's more murders.

675
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:36.480
But Bruce Davis has been tied to, loosely tied to, or let's

676
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:43.119
just say he was suspected but never
convicted of those two murders. Scientology played

677
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:45.840
an important part in the lives of
Charles Manson and Bruce Davis. There's documented

678
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:50.800
evidence regarding the teachings of scientology to
Manson, even while he was incarcerated during

679
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.960
the nineteen fifties. It's reported Charles
Manson reached the level of clear and was

680
01:00:55.039 --> 01:01:00.480
rather astute in his adaption of control
and manipulation techniques when dealing with other people.

681
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:06.000
Manson used scientology to answer questions with
Diane Sawyer during the ABC television broadcast.

682
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:09.519
Manson often expressed the concept of living
in the quote now, and the

683
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:13.760
term was used to describe the murder
of Shorty Shay when the killer said it

684
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.639
was hard to bring Shorty to the
now. Bruce Davis was an emissary from

685
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:21.480
Manson when he traveled to England to
work out problems between the process and Scientology.

686
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.280
Davis denied to the BBC reporter Bill
Murphy that he ever traveled to Manchester,

687
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:30.000
England, despite the fact witnesses solemn
there. Murphy had had an acquaintance

688
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.440
who actually witnessed Bruce Davis traveling around
Manchester with a coven of witches. Murder

689
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:37.679
victims Doreen Gall and James Sharps were
deeply involved in the Church of Scientology,

690
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:45.400
and it was documented James Sharp's and
it was documented that James Sharp conducted instruction

691
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:51.000
to Doreen Gall the night of the
murder. He was taking miss Gall to

692
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.400
the level of clear and Gall was
all cool, Gall, I need to

693
01:01:53.400 --> 01:02:00.639
get a drink of water. Man
and Gall was also working on at the

694
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.000
time of her murder. Bruce Davis
lived in the same communal residence as Doreen

695
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.719
Gall. While he was very active
in Scientology, the owner of the residence

696
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:13.880
was the Church of Scientology. Now
just prior to the murder of Doringall,

697
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.440
she made a telephone call to her
father asking for an airplane ticket home.

698
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:22.599
Mister Gall told Doreen he would send
her a round trip ticket. She responded

699
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:24.440
that it should be a one way
ticket. Said Gall to her father,

700
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:28.480
quote, I think this stuff is
all a bunch of horseshit. She was

701
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:30.639
leaving the Church of Scientology, and
the fact was documented by a friend of

702
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:35.000
Dorang Gall who resided in New York, who had offered her a job.

703
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:37.400
For whatever reason, the Church of
Scientology has played a very important part in

704
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:43.000
the Manson saga. The Church of
Scientology even offered a reward for the arresting

705
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:47.199
conviction of the first and persons responsible
for the murder of Doreen Gall and James

706
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:53.199
Sharp, perhaps to cover their own
ass right Susan Atkins stated that a quote

707
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.960
man used to come up to gol
Or Wash and have meetings with Manson.

708
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:01.360
Quote. I believe he was with
the Church of Scientology, said Atkins.

709
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:07.360
Paul Crockett, Paul Watkins, and
other Manson family associates spoke of the influence

710
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:12.960
of Scientology on Manson. Best selling
author Ed Sanders made some statements about Scientology

711
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.679
in the process Church and his first
edition of the Family. Legal action caused

712
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:22.800
Standers to remove that portion of his
book and the subsequent editions. Scientology is

713
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:28.719
an important part of the Manson story. I actually have that chapter that's missing.

714
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:31.320
You can only get in an English
version and it costs like four hundred

715
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:36.920
dollars to buy. I'll put the
whole English version of that book in PDF

716
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:44.360
forum on the actual in the description
box after we'd done. Okay, that

717
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:51.920
leads us to Gooler Wash, which
is just being talked about here. So

718
01:03:52.000 --> 01:04:16.360
stand by, Okay, yards bullet
washed around the first of March nineteen sixty

719
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.840
nine. This is kind of like
the the oh I think we lost the

720
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:25.960
camera agon. This is kind of
like the Indie Scientologist battle, like Manson

721
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.960
was rejected from. He was rejected
from scientology. Once he got out of

722
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:35.119
prison, he went to San Francisco
and he wanted to kind of sign up

723
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:39.599
and become a scientologist, but they
declared him Type three, which means he's

724
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:45.599
psychotic. So despite being rejected,
he taught this philosophy and used a lot

725
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:50.519
of the techniques with this flock,
and Paul Watkins was able to get out

726
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:59.239
from science or the Freudian slept from
Manson's control by meeting an indie scientologist at

727
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.920
Goyer. Well, let me just
read this. It's quite interesting, but

728
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:05.639
they're kind of like a battle of
the indie scientologist and shit that was going

729
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:11.360
on between Manson and the person that
got Paul Watkins out of the colt and

730
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:18.679
others. So around the first,
let me hang on a second. Are

731
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:21.400
you guys able to see the chat
overlay? If only you could see what's

732
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:25.920
happening over here? That's like going
on. But are you guys able to

733
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:29.719
see the chat overlay? Can you
please hit a one if you can see

734
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.760
it, or a two if you
can't. Because I can't freaking see it,

735
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:43.320
I'll leave it there for now.
Okay, So around the first of

736
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:47.039
March nineteen sixty nine, two miners
named Paul Crockett and Bob Barry arrived at

737
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:53.239
the Barker Ranch to find Brooks,
Boston and Juanita living there following the marijuana

738
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:58.880
raid. Bob Barry had visited the
Barker Ranch area the preceding autumn and evidently

739
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:02.440
had enjoyed himself. Crockett, this
is the guy, the indie scientologist.

740
01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:08.320
Crockett, let me check actually real
quick, are you guys able to Okay?

741
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:10.320
Thanks a lot, man for let
me know you guys can see the

742
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.639
chat. I can't see anything over
here. Man. It's like trying to

743
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:15.559
juggle so much shit over here.
Sooner or later I will get the hang

744
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:27.440
of this freaking thing. Okay.
Bob Berry had visited the Barker Ranch area

745
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:32.000
the preceding office autumn and evidently had
enjoyed himself. Crockett and Arcticket are an

746
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:36.840
articulate gentleman in his fifties, filled
with the lore of scientology, left his

747
01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:41.639
home in Carlsbad, New Mexico,
to come to Golor Wash for the purpose

748
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:46.360
of discovering gold. Bob Berry and
Paul Crockett began to stay in the small

749
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:50.880
tarf tar roofed cabin to the left
of the main Barker Ranch house. The

750
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:56.760
two began to scour old mining sites
at the pan at the Panamint Mountains,

751
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:02.639
Wingate Wash, and South End Canyon
in order to look into the mother load.

752
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.960
By night, Barri and Crockett would
sit and chat with Brooks and Juanita

753
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:10.800
and later Paul Watkins when he returned
from Los Angeles. One thing that struck

754
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:15.639
the miner slash metaphysician Paul Crockett was
the enormous fear that Paul Watkins and Juanita

755
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:20.239
and Brooks had for this mysterious Charlie. It came to pass that Paul Crockett

756
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:27.639
hired for board Brooks postin to help
haul one down from the hillsides. It's

757
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:31.840
common for miners to engage someone to
bring weekly shipments of supplies via jeep to

758
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.239
their claims on their camps. Blah
blah blah blah. Okay, so Crockett

759
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:41.119
up to his food order to accommodate
the thin, young, transprone Texas Boston.

760
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.559
I'm pretty sure I read this whole
entire book when I was like sixteen

761
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:49.159
or seventeen, the Elder Skelt book, and watched the really crappy documentary about

762
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:55.440
it too. They would go out
by day to inspect old mine sits,

763
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:59.719
old diggings, and outcroppings, hauling
one samples back to the ranch when they

764
01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:02.760
reached a dusk for or samples back. When they returned from dusk, they

765
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.159
would crunch up the samples in a
rock breaking machine that could chew the mineral

766
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:12.079
into forty pieces per cubic inch.
Sometime in the spring, Little Paul Watkins

767
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.719
traveled the Death Valley, where he
visited Wannita and Brooks and met Crockett.

768
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.000
Little Paul returned to the Spawn Ranch
to announce the horrible news that quote scientologists

769
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:24.560
had taken over the Barker Ranch,
news which triggered off a fearful reaction within

770
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.359
the family. Oh no, the
indie scientologists are going to take over,

771
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.159
Watkins pertuted. Watkins persuaded Charlie to
let him go back up to Barker Ranch,

772
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:38.960
perhaps to keep an eye on the
so called scientologists looking for the mother

773
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.720
load. Several times during these spring
months of nineteen sixty nine, this is

774
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.359
right before he gets caught and they're
out a Goler ranch or golar wash.

775
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:49.960
Manson and the others tried to drive
up to the Barker Ranch, but it

776
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:54.960
always seemed that something went wrong,
which beams were thwarting them, or with

777
01:08:55.039 --> 01:09:00.720
the so called scientologists keeping the family
away. Paul Crockett certainly didn't do anything

778
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.760
to dispel the illusion that he was
preventing the family from coming out there by

779
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:08.640
means of his mental powers. In
fact, he was promoting the idea that

780
01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:13.760
he could establish a magical warp to
prevent Manson from returning to harm those remaining

781
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:16.279
in Death Valley. Can you imagine
that? I mean, it's literally like

782
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:20.079
a battle of the scientologists out there
in Death Valley, or who gets to

783
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:24.479
retain the flock right before Charlie's about
to go to prison and this shit's about

784
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:27.880
to break. The family seems to
have begun to believe that occult beams and

785
01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:31.760
powers were attempting to prevent them from
returning to Holy to Holy Devil's Hole.

786
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:38.239
Even Manson ever a beamfoe. This
is Ed Sanders talking. By the way,

787
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:41.279
in the book The Family Again,
there's a free PDF version that'll be

788
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:45.439
in the description box evidently held some
belief in Crockett's power. Paul Walkins,

789
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:49.239
so he claims, cited at the
advent of various murderous schemes to get out

790
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:53.359
of the family. So he placed
himself in the tutelage of Paul Crockett.

791
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:58.159
Quote he Crockett knows how Charlie set
up his whole thing, And I went

792
01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:00.760
to Paul. Paul helped me out
of this plan. Just like that.

793
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:04.319
I was hung right up in it
and using processing and looking at what it

794
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:08.840
is, I e as isning it, as they say in scientology. I

795
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:12.680
was able to be free from it. But Old Clem, Sandy Lynn and

796
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.960
Gypsy there ain't no way they can
get free from that. I mean,

797
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:20.239
they could snuff Charlie out and they're
still stuck to him. Very very interesting.

798
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:29.000
And here's a little video from this
amazing Manson movie that talks a little

799
01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:35.680
bit about the scientology wars and shit
that were going on. I mean,

800
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:47.119
get me down here. While it's
Barker's ranch, a man named Plockett and

801
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:54.960
another drove it to the yard.
Woman that I arrived, I met Rooks

802
01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:00.520
Poston. They were living in the
house from the ranch, would go and

803
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:05.199
stay in the cabin that was just
to the left of the house. We

804
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:13.119
would sit up and we began to
hear about Charlie Paul that offered me a

805
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.640
job to go up and down the
mountains and to help him get gold word

806
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:23.039
down from some minds that they had
in that area. I got books to

807
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:28.000
go and work with me, and
then Paul Watkins came. Every day we

808
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:31.199
would go and inspect the old mind
sight so old diggings, and I could

809
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:35.600
explain to them what Charlie was doing, that it was ridiculous, it was

810
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:43.319
idiotic, that it had no value
whatsoever to them, and they decided to

811
01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:50.520
put Charlie and come and go with
me. Later on, Charlie and the

812
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:57.119
crew came back up to the desert. When we were there, I watched

813
01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:03.079
him and Crocket do this little dance
with the gurus. They just seemed to

814
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:11.239
me that all stuff haack more reality
than Charlie's. That was my way out.

815
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:18.239
I had no one to go back
to, and everybody I've been up

816
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:21.680
with their families. Okay, so
that's it on that. Now here's another

817
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:25.399
little interesting thing that I found,
and we're gonna, like I said,

818
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:28.359
at the very end, we're kind
of working our way to the beginning of

819
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:36.159
the story. I just wanted to
give you some tidbits I don't know.

820
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:40.039
I haven't he just there, he
goes, I threw myself out of there.

821
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:42.760
I hit the wrong one. I
just wanted to give you guys some

822
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.359
tidbits to show you the influence of
scientology, to introduce you to the process.

823
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:49.399
But we're we are actually going to
get to Charles Manson by doing some

824
01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:55.439
backfooting here. And here's another little
interesting thing, a slip by David Misscabbage

825
01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:00.279
where he actually you see that letter
that I told you or that I showed

826
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:02.159
you earlier before, and how Marie
Terry himself, you know, who wrote

827
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:05.119
the Ultimate Evil. He was also
getting fair game. We'll cover that in

828
01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:11.840
part two. As soon as Scientology
gets wind that Manson, who they know

829
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:15.800
is as scientologists you know, might
be, might cause a pr flap.

830
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:20.319
They set up all sorts of programs
to get intel on the family and people.

831
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:25.439
And part of that I don't think
David miss Gabbage is too privy to

832
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:28.560
that. This would have been in
the sixties and maybe up to the early

833
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:32.359
seventies, so he's not nearly as
smart as and clever as Hubbard. This

834
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:36.359
is Hubbard's doing. And David miss
Gabbage slipped up in one of the events

835
01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:41.520
and talked about the Processed Church,
even though he didn't use the correct names.

836
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:45.560
That either shows how clueless he is
about the connection or that he's trying

837
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.960
to kind of hide it. So
let me show you this little clip.

838
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:58.079
First of all, process history goes
kind of like this, so they really

839
01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:01.119
let me just read this. This
is Xtool. Extool is a small village

840
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.840
in the state of Yucaton, Mexico. It is on the North Gulf of

841
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:08.600
Mexico. Blah blah blah. Okay, so it's in Yucaton, Mexico,

842
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:13.199
and the village, like a few
others, located on the Gulf coast,

843
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:16.159
was a location where salt. Okay, that doesn't matter. Xtool is noted

844
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:19.560
as a location where some thirty members
of the Processed Church of the Final Judgment

845
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:24.600
went in nineteen sixty six. They
set up camp in an abandoned salt factory

846
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:29.600
while they were hit with the Hurricane
Inez. The resulting storm lasted for three

847
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:32.800
days. It was during this time
that the basic theology of the Processed Church

848
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:39.840
was formed and later written as the
Extool Dialogues and again. The Processed Church

849
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:44.159
of the Final Judgment documentary is on
my bit shoot channel. There'll be a

850
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:48.720
link in the description, so you
can see the whole extool where they basically

851
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:51.880
came up with their philosophy, and
here's David MS. Gabage talking about it

852
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:56.239
in an eclip. Was probably the
best example of them. Can you pull

853
01:14:56.319 --> 01:15:00.800
that back? Probably the best example
of the viciousness of these false reports is

854
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:08.000
a document written by David Forsythe who
was posted in IRS intelligence branch. The

855
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.720
report was written in nineteen seventy four
and was to smear the church internationally and

856
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:15.239
wipe it out. At the time
the report was written, the church had

857
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:20.600
coincidentally purchased a ranch in Mexico as
a boarding school for the children of SEAWERG

858
01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:27.319
members in southern California. In other
words, the ranch was occupied by six

859
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:32.680
year olds. But in forsyighte report, he stated a group of scientologists is

860
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:38.600
currently training in guerrilla warfare near the
town of Uxtall on the Yukaton Peninsula.

861
01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:42.479
Okay, that's obviously extall shows how
misinformed he is. But there it is

862
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:45.720
the Yucatan Peninsula. And I'm going
to play that again because this is very

863
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:49.479
interesting what he says. Maybe someone
can decode it in the comment section afterwards.

864
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:57.000
But it's just an example of their
interaction with these groups and having to

865
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:59.960
deal with them, and what's up
with him saying these six year olds on

866
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.000
a ranch, you know, isn't
that what Scientology does in their boarding schools?

867
01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:09.600
Just as Laura FM. Probably the
best simple of the vicious nature of

868
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:14.640
these reports is a document written by
DiMAGE Foresight. It was posted in Irrest

869
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:18.319
Intelligence Age There Were Course, written
in nineteen seventy four and was an attempt

870
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:24.279
to smear the church internationally and wipe
it out. At the time it was

871
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:29.319
written, the church had finally purchased
a Mexico as a boarding school for the

872
01:16:29.479 --> 01:16:33.279
children of Sea Org members in southern
Califia. In other words, the ranch

873
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:40.600
was occupied by six year olds.
But in Forsight's report, he stated a

874
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:45.680
group of Scientologists is currently training a
ruler warfare near the town of Uxtall on

875
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:54.880
the Yukatminsula. That grade those kids
must have really been something. What a

876
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:59.680
sick fuck man while he's doing the
same things to the other kids. Okay,

877
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:02.159
turn this off, stand by you
guys want to watch this instead.

878
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.000
Okay, So one of the little
thing to show you before we actually get

879
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:10.760
into Charles Manson here, just another
connection with Bruce Davis, the Processed Church,

880
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:13.520
and to try to set some groundwork
as we go forward so we don't

881
01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.000
get totally lost when we really jump
into this. On this next article,

882
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:30.680
throw the chat in over here.
Sure you guys can read that. Okay,

883
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:36.159
stand by, Please draw on the
music. We're gonna go for hip

884
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:41.239
hop here. Come on, man, My transitions I thought were slow.

885
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.119
So Manson seems to have stayed on
Topanga Lane at the mouth of Topanga Canyon,

886
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:50.239
by the ruins of the Spiral Staircase. The Spiral staircase is where they

887
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:55.880
first the family, when they were
more innocent, first met the Process,

888
01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:00.640
and according to Charlie's own biography,
that's when they kind of started to go

889
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:03.840
crazy when they met members of the
Process and we're witnessing what they were doing

890
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:09.359
versus their innocent peace and love hippie
type thing. That's according to Manson.

891
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.279
So I guess we have to take
that with a grain of salt. But

892
01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:14.840
we do know that they first met
the Process at the Spiral Staircase int Panga

893
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:18.039
Canyon. The Spiral Staircase house,
where Manson and crew had stayed a year

894
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:24.279
previous, had subsequently been demolished.
Manson was living in a blue bus parked

895
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:28.800
by their ruins. Manson was seen
at Thanksgiving dinner at Lane Wooton's house in

896
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:36.239
to Penga Canyon on November twenty eighth, nineteen sixty eight. Standby. In

897
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:45.439
early December nineteen sixty eight, Manson
sent sent ace Acidian this is Ed Sanders

898
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:50.000
like talk trying to be cool.
He's basically talking about acid head Bruce Davis

899
01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:55.880
on a trip to England where we
spent around five months, including considerable time

900
01:18:55.920 --> 01:19:00.000
at the London headquarters of the process. The process had a London headquarter.

901
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:04.000
It wasn't too far removed too far
away from the London headquarters of what will

902
01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:11.560
become Scientology's Saint Hile I Believe or
East Grinstead. Little Paul described it as

903
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:15.439
being a go to Rio and get
me a coconut scene where Manson told Davis

904
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:19.920
to take a trip around the world
and report back whatever the case. Bruce

905
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:25.760
Davis, with two traveling companions,
journeyed to England by way of North Africa.

906
01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.000
There is also a story fitting about
that Davis took a collection of five

907
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.000
hundred silver dollars over to England to
sell. People that have intimate knowledge of

908
01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:39.760
the Tate la Bianca case was see
an interesting possibility if in fact David did

909
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:45.279
transport to Silver to Great Britain.
So in London, Davis approached the Church

910
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:49.359
of Scientology to pursue choruses of study. He was employed by the Church of

911
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:56.399
Scientology for a short time, working
in their mailroom. The Church of Scientology

912
01:19:56.479 --> 01:20:00.279
fired Davis after a couple of weeks
when he wouldn't stop using drugs, they

913
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:04.000
say. According to a homicide investigator
extremely close to the case, Bruce,

914
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:08.880
Davis then began to hang out with
the Processed Church of the Final Judgment at

915
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:13.439
their Mayfair townhouse. Later, when
he returned from London to the Spawn Ranch,

916
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:20.279
David Davis was talking and whooping about
the Hitler loving Satanic organization. Okay,

917
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:27.479
so let's get into the man himself
and start from the beginning. Okay,

918
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:31.560
So we're gonna take a quick side
bar here and we're gonna do something

919
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:35.000
and I'm gonna jump. I'm not
moving this dial from this video. I

920
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:40.239
just want to put something else in
here real quick too. It's just a

921
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:43.960
little bit more primer. So let
me go ahead and get this out of

922
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.359
here real quick and jump back in
there in a second. All right,

923
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:57.039
it's gotta find the right one.
You know what happened? Oh yeah,

924
01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:01.279
they did it there. All right, we need to get a little bit

925
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:05.199
of this background here first, because
when they start getting into the methods that

926
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:10.199
these churches and whatnot are using and
are kind of slowly showing us this,

927
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:19.840
we can't lose sight of the fact
that these are governmental programs that are informing

928
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:26.520
these types of cults. And that's
a huge element. You can't separate that

929
01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:30.640
from the mine control experiments and everything
else is going on. So this kult,

930
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:36.439
the shocking Cold War experiments hidden by
CIA. This is old BBC and

931
01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:42.920
it's only like seven minutes long,
but we're gonna watch it. Ill give

932
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:48.720
them a glass of kool aid,
and so are the other children. This

933
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:58.279
kool aid was spiked with LSD.
It was horrible. In the early days

934
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:01.000
of the Cold War, the CIA
ordered the creation of a secret program intended

935
01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:06.520
to find ways of mind control.
They funded an army of psychiatric institutions across

936
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:12.680
the United States and Canada to perform
experiments on unsuspecting patients using psychedelic drugs,

937
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:17.199
sensory deprivation, electroshock treatment, and
warm The program was known by its code

938
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:26.520
name MK Ultram. At the end
of the Korean War, a number of

939
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:32.000
freed American POWs came home seemingly brainwashed
and espousing Communist propaganda. American officials suspected

940
01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:35.600
that the soldiers had been subjected to
what they thought were new Communist mind control

941
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:41.920
techniques. Alarmed by the situation,
the newly formed CIA allocated twenty five million

942
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:46.920
dollars for psychiatric experiments on human beings. It was the most secret program ever

943
01:22:47.159 --> 01:22:55.600
conducted by the CIA in the United
States. Patients at psychiatric hospitals, prisoners

944
01:22:55.640 --> 01:23:00.199
and federal institutions, and even people
in the public were given drugs without their

945
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:08.359
awareness or consent and experimented upon.
Initial projects within a gale true included Operation

946
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:15.720
Midnight Climax. They established what were
called safe houses where prostitutes with more men

947
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:18.920
to these apartments, and then once
the men were in the apartments, they

948
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:26.119
were dosed with LSD and then they
were basically studied by CIA scientists, usually

949
01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:30.960
behind two way mirra. Another common
practice was the hosting and observing of LSD

950
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:35.720
induced parties with live music. These
parties were called pacid tests, and the

951
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:39.520
culture that grew out of them played
a key role in the development of the

952
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:44.640
hippie and psychedelic movements. A few
years later, however, some of the

953
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:48.680
most damaging experiments occurred at the Allen
Memorial Institute in Montreal, Canada. There,

954
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:55.159
under the direction of infamous Scottish American
psychiatrist doctor Ewan Cameron, unsuspecting patients,

955
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:59.119
many of whom had common ailments such
as postpartum depression, were experimented on

956
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:03.199
with aggressive drug cocktails and extreme techniques. My father was a victim of doctor

957
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:10.479
Cameron. He was a twenty seven
year old, healthy skier, Canuer,

958
01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:16.840
very athletic, and he had asthma. They told him if he went to

959
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:21.239
the Allen Memorial they could cure his
asthma. My father, Charles, was

960
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:28.159
patient to doctor Cameron's. He had
a trigeminal lourelgia that's called where there's a

961
01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:32.199
pain in the temple that radiates into
the jaw that approently is cruciatingly painful.

962
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:35.640
They told him that it was psychosomatic, which it's not, but in those

963
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:39.359
days, what did they know.
So they sent him to a shrink.

964
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:43.960
The shrink that he went to was
working with Cameron, although we didn't know,

965
01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:47.319
so he put my father right into
the program. I was having trouble

966
01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:51.760
with my parents, and my father
and my stepmother decided to put me in

967
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:57.239
the Allen Memorial Institute. They had
no idea what went on in there.

968
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:01.439
I was sixteen when I was there. Doctor Cameron pursued a concept he called

969
01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:06.159
deepatterning, which was meant to reduce
patients to an infantile psychological state, wherein

970
01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:11.680
doctors could take advantage of the person's
cognitive vulnerability to attempt to rebuild their mind

971
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:15.720
under the doctor's control. A popular
method of choice to achieve this was called

972
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.640
psychic driving. The day that my
father was brought to the hospital, they

973
01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:24.000
immediately put him on insulin to put
him into like an insulent coma. They

974
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:28.279
took clips from the interview with the
shrink and put it on tape to run

975
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.359
a loop under his pillow. While
he was put into this sleep treatment.

976
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:40.199
He also was put in an insulin
coma for thirty six days with a recording

977
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:46.399
beside him saying that your mother hates
you, over and over and over and

978
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:54.880
over and over. That was beside
my bed constantly repeated two hundred and fifty

979
01:25:55.000 --> 01:26:02.439
thousand and five hundred thousand times.
Could you imagine in itself being an insulin

980
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:08.439
and induced coma for thirty six days. Another common method was the use of

981
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:14.840
extreme Page Russell electroshock therapy. Paid
Russell shock treatment is approximately forty to seventy

982
01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:18.079
five times the strength of a normal
shock treatment, so it's really designed to

983
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:27.880
wipe out the memory. He received
fifty four high voltage shock treatments, followed

984
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:32.079
by fifty four grandma seizures. After
twenty seven days of this, they said

985
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:39.479
that they were discouraged because he still
had twice to his former life in that

986
01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:43.000
he was asking to see his wife. They decided to give him more page

987
01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:46.640
Russell shock treatments and put him to
sleep for another thirty days. When patients

988
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:49.840
were released from the Ellen Memorial,
they and their family's lives would never be

989
01:26:49.880 --> 01:26:54.399
the same again. Well, there's
a lot I could not remember. After

990
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:57.399
I got out of the Allen.
When my family came, I was a

991
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:00.479
zombie. I didn't even know who
they were. He never came up the

992
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:04.159
same. He had a blank,
blank look at his eye. He didn't

993
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:10.119
know who we were. He didn't
know we were his daughters. He lost

994
01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:15.560
his job, we went into poverty. After he came out, he had

995
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:19.239
said in his interview with the shrink
that he was the apple of his zoil,

996
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:25.600
and after he came home he started
beating me. Not long after,

997
01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:30.199
in nineteen seventy three, the mk
Ultra program was terminated and some of the

998
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:36.079
evidence of his activities was systematically erased. The whole thing was basically discovered because

999
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:41.880
of a whistleblower named John Marx,
who wrote the first book really about the

1000
01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:45.560
program, called The Search for the
Manchurian Candidate. There were congressional hearings here

1001
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:50.119
in the United States in the mid
seventies after it and then exposed, and

1002
01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:55.760
during those hearings, the CIA finally
admitted that this program existed. They admitted

1003
01:27:55.800 --> 01:28:00.239
that it was probably not the right
thing to do, but they famed innocence.

1004
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:04.159
Despite the congressional hearings and marginal interest
in the subject in popular culture,

1005
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:09.439
most m cultural survivors suffered in silence, taking their trauma with them to the

1006
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:14.439
grave. Today, having received no
formal apology or compensation, the children of

1007
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:17.960
some survivors are pursuing a class action
lawsuit against the institutions they beem responsible.

1008
01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:21.359
No, the CIA knew that it
was breaking you know, every moral,

1009
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:28.720
ethical, and legal law in the
books to do these experiments. They all

1010
01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:32.439
were behind it, they all knew
what they were doing, but they weren't

1011
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:36.600
doing it out of care or love. They were doing it out of military

1012
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:43.279
and political reasons. I am on
medication now because of what happened to me

1013
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.640
when I was sixteen. No,
I have not had any compensation or apology.

1014
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:54.800
I want everyone to know in Canada
what went on in that horrible,

1015
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:59.880
horrible hospital. And that's not even
bringing into sexual abuse. They would rape

1016
01:28:59.880 --> 01:29:05.840
the people. Well, historians and
survivors have exposed MK ultra. If that

1017
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:10.239
doesn't sound like a cult, you
know, cult activity to you out of

1018
01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:14.319
yeah, I mean that's straight up
the definition. Like the trauma, the

1019
01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:19.760
torment, the drugging, the sexual
abuse, all of that exploits to the

1020
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:25.359
world. Much remains unknown about its
extent and wider impact. Given the highly

1021
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:29.159
sensitive nature of the program's activity,
is likely this will remain the case for

1022
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:36.439
years to come. All right,
we'll jump back over to that guy.

1023
01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:45.159
Now, it's got to look at
one more thing. Make sure I don't

1024
01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:48.880
want to add something else real quick. Now. I think the next two

1025
01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:53.039
pieces that I want to add to
this puzzle are going to be kind of

1026
01:29:53.119 --> 01:30:00.359
lengthy, So we'll jump back onto
this one here for a bit. We're

1027
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:09.000
about to get into the Manson stuff
now, so like keep her into it

1028
01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:15.800
more than just a passing mention.
Actually, let's take a quick break here.

1029
01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:20.119
See what you guys are in the
chat? Come on, uh the

1030
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:25.399
what was that? The Daily Beast? And it's an amazing little gem of

1031
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:30.039
reporting by him man talking about the
connections that was the previous broadcast. I'll

1032
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:34.359
link that in the description as well. Yeah, neuram, I'm and you

1033
01:30:34.399 --> 01:30:40.359
know full process thing that you saw. Those are the mcclerthy's and I'm going

1034
01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:43.560
to leave a link in the description
box because I believe they are having some

1035
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:46.960
trouble with their living arrangements. Arnie
Lerma, the late Arnie Lerma rip.

1036
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:53.279
Maybe I'm forgetting someone, but I
love these guys research and people that will

1037
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:56.840
kind of give the bigger pawer.
He died an untimely death, some say

1038
01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:00.800
from smoking. He died in his
fifties, and some say there's a conspiracy

1039
01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:04.319
behind that. I don't know personally, but it's amazing that he wrote this

1040
01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:08.640
in two thousand and four. And
if you want a book that connects a

1041
01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:13.359
lot of dots from the serial killers
to what Neuram was talking about about the

1042
01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:18.119
CIA covered ops, this whole area
and the serial killers and the false memory

1043
01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:23.800
syndrome and all this incredible stuff.
This is one book where you can really

1044
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:26.560
get a lot out of it.
And if he was with us today,

1045
01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:30.039
it would be amazing to have him
update this and see what he can come

1046
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:32.640
up with, because it's one of
the top books in my opinion, and

1047
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:41.600
a lot of people to start trying
to understand this complex dot connecting maze basically.

1048
01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:45.319
So enough rambling and back to this. So this is from Dave McGowan.

1049
01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:48.560
I'll try to double back and fact
out what that book is, because

1050
01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:51.399
now I want to read it,
at least see what it is. Let

1051
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:56.279
me see if I can get this
up a little bit more. No too

1052
01:31:56.319 --> 01:32:03.239
much? Okay, here we go, make sure we're sent. Let me

1053
01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:06.880
put this down here. Like I
said, once I get the hang of

1054
01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:10.800
this fucking thing, I'll stop babbling
about all the shit that's going on over

1055
01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:14.319
here. Charles Mills Manson was born
no name Maddox, the son of an

1056
01:32:14.319 --> 01:32:17.800
alcoholic teenage prostitute. His mother was
imprisoned for arm robbery when Charles was just

1057
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:21.600
a toddler, so the boy was
sent to live with his grandparents. Following

1058
01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:25.119
that, he lived for a time
with an aunt and uncle in Virginia,

1059
01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:27.920
who sent him off to his first
day of school dressed as a girl,

1060
01:32:28.399 --> 01:32:32.920
just as Henry Henry Lee Lucas's mother
had done. By age eight, Charlie

1061
01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:35.640
was back with his mother, who
occasionally sent him off to stay with a

1062
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:40.600
moonshiner uncle. At age nine,
he was sent to stay at the Gibralt

1063
01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:45.960
Home for Boys, a quote reform
school in Cherry Hate, Indiana. Three

1064
01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:48.119
years later, the pre teen boy
was living alone in a single room at

1065
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:51.399
a boarding house until he was discovered
by authorities. How he came to be

1066
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:56.439
living alone remained something of a mystery. From that point on, Manson spent

1067
01:32:56.479 --> 01:33:04.239
the vast majority of his life institutionalized. I'm looking at something that says himself

1068
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:09.279
housed at Boystown. Let's see what
that's all about. So he's already getting

1069
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:15.199
set up in these government funded,
shady ass schools, traumatized by being told

1070
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:20.560
to wear a dress, and perhaps
this forms his narcissism and his desire to

1071
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:26.560
figure out a way to survive the
abuse and rebel. I'm not justifying Manson's

1072
01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:30.119
behavior at all, my friends' it's
just interesting, Well you could perhaps see

1073
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:36.359
why his formation and why he would
be maybe become what he became. Charles

1074
01:33:36.359 --> 01:33:42.079
next found himself housed at Boys Town, and that's an infamous place that's identified

1075
01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:45.239
in the Franklin cover up as a
cesspool of pedophilic operations. By the age

1076
01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:48.920
of fifteen, Charles was no longer
award of the state. He graduated to

1077
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:55.279
being a full fledged convict. In
prison, the diminutive Manson was repeatedly raped

1078
01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:59.640
and beaten by guards and fellow inmates
until he managed to escape at the age

1079
01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:03.399
of six teen and binding his way
to California. Dude, imprisoning people at

1080
01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:09.920
that age, that's insane. And
also we're talking about a history of sexual

1081
01:34:09.960 --> 01:34:15.880
abuse rape from at least Boys Town
on up into the rid into the jails,

1082
01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:21.199
where that shouldn't surprise you that the
the corrections officers are in on the

1083
01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:28.119
raping. Why do you I mean, if that's a surprise you, you

1084
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:30.560
got to take a look at what
the what the justice quote unquote justice system

1085
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:36.479
and quote unquote corrections system is all
about. It's a dark, dark place

1086
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:42.399
and there is no It's like hell
because you can't turn to anything. Everything

1087
01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:47.880
and everyone is just as evil.
What a shitty way to start your life

1088
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:53.680
out. He was soon arrested again
and sent to the rather omnous named National

1089
01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:57.920
Training School for Boys in Washington,
d C. A few years later,

1090
01:34:57.960 --> 01:35:00.279
he was set free and married briefly
and fathered child, who also worked as

1091
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:04.680
a pimp. That occupation earned him
a lanthly prison stay following a conviction for

1092
01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:10.439
running an interstate vice ring. Seven
years later, he was again set free

1093
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:16.159
after reportedly following Henry Lucas's lead by
begging authorities at Terminal Island Prison not to

1094
01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:19.880
release him. Now he gets out
of prison at this point, and I

1095
01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:23.960
want to show you some of the
shenanigans before we get into his you know,

1096
01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:27.039
him getting out of prison, what
he was kind of getting up to

1097
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:32.520
in prison right before his release.
So let me pull this up here.

1098
01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:39.199
Oop's wrong one funck. I might
have fucked that last one up. Okay,

1099
01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:51.159
So okay, does that work?
I don't know why that's happening.

1100
01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:54.520
Okay, So I'm just gonna put
it. Oh, here we go again.

1101
01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:58.079
Once I get these fucking settings down, we can start moving. So

1102
01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:00.960
here's some of the things he was
actually doing, and it kind of reminds

1103
01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:03.319
me of Hubbard. Manson was many
things, not just as scientologists. He

1104
01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:08.840
grabbed, like Hubbard, from everything, especially hypnotism and the occult. So

1105
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.960
it was while counting the days that
mc weld done. I don't know if

1106
01:36:11.960 --> 01:36:14.560
he's okay, Okay, yeah,
I know he is about to read that

1107
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:16.560
part. I just wanted to make
sure you didn't closs over it. This

1108
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:20.960
is all important, this first paragraph, Neil Eiland that Manson began studying music,

1109
01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:28.119
warlockry, hypnotism, aftral projection,
masonic lore, scientology, ego games,

1110
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:31.520
subliminal motivation, music, and perhaps
rose Acrusiism. Again, we showed

1111
01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:38.800
you the kind of ven diagram of
how rose accrusionism fits into scientology, especially

1112
01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:44.439
here in its false Resicruciism too,
by the way, that's as it's a

1113
01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:50.239
Rosicrucianism in name only. It's a
much darker thing than what one would even

1114
01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:56.560
conceive of a mystery school or a
secret society as being. And I can

1115
01:36:56.640 --> 01:37:00.720
show you that the trail of that
and the splintering off in the in the

1116
01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:04.560
the fabrication of such. If we
go into the entire Book of Transhumanism,

1117
01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:11.960
The History of a Dangerous Idea by
David Livingstone. Hypnotism and subliminal motivation he

1118
01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:15.279
seemed determined to use. He seemed
to It actually comes up in Proofs of

1119
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:20.840
a Conspiracy by What do You Call
It? By John Robison too. He

1120
01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:29.720
discredits rescrutionism as just being a flimsy
name on on a false u, as

1121
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:33.439
a false moniker determined to use it
to affect control over others to his benefit.

1122
01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:39.119
One Prison Made of Manson of McNeil
Island recalls vividly the great Charlie Manson

1123
01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:43.479
headphones Caper. This is kind of
funny shit that he was getting up to

1124
01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:48.680
it practicing his hypnosis skills. That's
another thing that you're going to see probably

1125
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:53.399
in part two, where he was
definitely training and became kind of an expert

1126
01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:58.319
hypnotist, just like Hubbard, because
that's the best way to access the subconscious

1127
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:01.880
mind and easily take over some one's
mine without their awareness. One Prison made

1128
01:38:01.880 --> 01:38:08.119
of Manson at McNeil recalls vividly the
Charlie Manson headphone Caper. Utilizing the prison

1129
01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:14.760
radio station, Manson planted what his
cell partner called post hypnotic suggestions in all

1130
01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:18.720
the prisoners at McNeal Island Penitentiary.
Each prisoner had access to the station by

1131
01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:23.159
means of headphones hanging on the bunk
beds in the cells. Manson set up

1132
01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:27.399
a clandestine scheme where by the radio
station would broadcast messages at three am over

1133
01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:31.199
the headphones. The message or instruction
was repeated over and over the prisoners.

1134
01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:39.359
Three am is the witching hour two
and if you get into that whole circadian

1135
01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:43.439
rhythm thing and stuff like that,
there are reasons certain things are done at

1136
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:45.840
certain times. Who were required to
hang their headsets at night on the bedstand

1137
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:49.079
so that the messages were picked up
by the sleepers but were not loud enough

1138
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:55.079
to attract the guards. The story
continues that McNeil Island had a baseball team

1139
01:38:55.319 --> 01:38:59.920
or a basketball team that rarely won
games. Manson beamed messages to the sleeping

1140
01:39:00.039 --> 01:39:03.760
inmates urging them to get out into
root for the McNeal Island team. Charlie

1141
01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:08.119
then plays bets with the zealous new
fans that the opposing team would win and

1142
01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:12.880
quickly won himself two hundred frickin packs
of cigarettes. The medium of exchange in

1143
01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:18.039
US prisons. Another was the applause
caper. He planted suggestions over the earphones

1144
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:23.279
that everyone should keep applotting for Manson
when he sang at a particular prison talent

1145
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:29.439
contest. Manson won the contest ear
posed earphones down, evidently receiving a standing

1146
01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:34.640
ovation of some duration of irony.
Manson seems to have become a protege in

1147
01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:40.239
prison, a probation gangster, a
prohibition gangster. Alvin Creepy Carpus, a

1148
01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:45.680
member of the Evil Ma Baker Gang
which left fourteen victims dead Smat Barker.

1149
01:39:47.399 --> 01:39:53.560
Alvin Old Creepy Carpus taught Charlie to
play this deal guitar and seems to have

1150
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:57.680
been a general counselor to the young
man, although when interviewed after Manson's arrest,

1151
01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:00.199
Carpus said that he had considered Manson
the last man on earth to quote

1152
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:04.279
go into the mass murder business.
Charlie was hooked on this new thing called

1153
01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:09.239
scientology, says Carpas, he figured
it would enable him to do anything or

1154
01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:12.520
be anything. Maybe he was right. The kid tried to sell a lot

1155
01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:17.159
of other cons on scientology, but
got strictly nowhere. Scientology is a reincarnationist

1156
01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:20.520
religion that claims to train individual to
experience past, live, to leave their

1157
01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:25.560
bodies, et cetera, i e. Exteriorize, and to achieve great power

1158
01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:30.840
and immortality, among other things.
Manson learned about scientology from one Laneer Raymer,

1159
01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:35.760
from Jeane Deaton, and from Jerry
Millman, who was Manson's roommate at

1160
01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:41.399
McNeil Island Penitentiary. Laney or Ramier. According to Manson, followers had been

1161
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:45.720
active in the study of scientology and
become a doctor of Scientology, an early

1162
01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:50.279
rank in the movement now abolished.
Raymer broke away from scientology and formed his

1163
01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:54.720
own group. Also, I'm going
to show you in part two how Raymer

1164
01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:58.439
was. Also there was a whole
file kept on his ass because Scientology was

1165
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:02.279
again trying to keep intellent anybody had
anything to do with Manson and scientology,

1166
01:41:02.640 --> 01:41:05.640
and since Raymer is the one that
introduced him to it, they had a

1167
01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:13.319
whole record which I have from the
church, that they kept on him.

1168
01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:18.680
If you didn't catch on yet,
this, this guy who's doing this broadcast

1169
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:26.039
is a former if that is,
if there's such a thing a former scientologist

1170
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:30.479
and reformed scientologists, I guess broke
away from scientology and formed his own group.

1171
01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:33.880
He was apprehended for a shotgun hold
up and was sent to McNeil Island.

1172
01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:38.720
Manson had told the jail house visitor
that he received one hundred and fifty

1173
01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:43.680
sessions. It's actually one hundred and
fifty hours of processing in jail, evidently

1174
01:41:43.720 --> 01:41:46.479
from Lanya Ramer. And one hundred
and fifty hours is a shitload of auditing.

1175
01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:49.800
By the way, guys, I've
definitely done thousands of hours, but

1176
01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:55.439
one hundred and fifty is quite a
bit and would definitely do something to your

1177
01:41:55.439 --> 01:42:03.199
mind. Manson has contented and he's
done thousands is what is he just admitting

1178
01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:05.399
to her saying right there, that's
kind of interesting. He did that he

1179
01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:12.159
learned scientology methods very quickly because his
mind quote wasn't programmed. But Manson was

1180
01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:15.800
not a product of scientology in any
way. I would kind of disagree with

1181
01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:17.279
that. Maybe you'll look, you'll
see more as we go, and you

1182
01:42:17.319 --> 01:42:20.880
make up your own mind. He
merely borrowed a few ideas from it.

1183
01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:27.159
Do scientologists call it squirreling, that
is, borrowing and mutating scientology practices or

1184
01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:30.960
methods. Manson picked up a fair
number of scientology phrases and practices which he

1185
01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:34.840
put into his own use when he
began to reorganize the minds of his young

1186
01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:40.359
followers. Phrases like quote to mock
it up and cease to exist and to

1187
01:42:40.399 --> 01:42:44.760
come to now, and the concept
of putting up pictures or mocking up pictures

1188
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:49.079
all seemed to have their origin and
Manson's McNeil Island sessions with Lanier Raymer.

1189
01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:55.880
Manson also studied Masonic lore and picked
up some knowledge of Masonic hand signs,

1190
01:42:55.920 --> 01:43:01.000
which later he would flash to judges
during court appearances. Not a bad thing

1191
01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:04.920
to do, but apparently it didn't
work for Manson. He evidently learned something

1192
01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:11.319
about scientology recognition signals. Later in
the area of Creepy Crawley Creepy Crawl Manson

1193
01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:15.000
would develop his own complex system of
hand and body signals, really a whole

1194
01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:19.119
language of chop notation among his followers, and we showed in the series how

1195
01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:25.920
he did the ham mimicry something called
c h's. I won't try to be

1196
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:29.439
crazy with the nomenclature, but communication
control on having this was one of the

1197
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:31.479
drills where he'd run up to the
kids on the ranch and he would have

1198
01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:34.800
them, you know, he'd move
around like he was like this amazing dancer,

1199
01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:39.439
so to speak, and he would
have people try to mimic or copy

1200
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:42.920
him. That came directly from scientology
as well as theater, games and such,

1201
01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:45.920
which is probably where Hubbard sold it
from. So getting back to this

1202
01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:57.680
Sambi, please, within months,
Charlie was playing his music in bars in

1203
01:43:57.720 --> 01:44:00.880
San Francisco's tender Loin district. So
again, he's out of jail. You've

1204
01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:03.560
seen some of the antics and the
training he was getting in jail, along

1205
01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:08.439
with how to win friends and influence
people and other things. And now he

1206
01:44:08.479 --> 01:44:12.840
gets out and within months Charlie was
playing his music in bars at San Francisco's

1207
01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:16.880
Tenderloin district and gathering a large and
devoted group of followers. Now again,

1208
01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:23.640
just real quick, guys, we
covered in detail how his parole officer let

1209
01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:27.600
me pull this off. Here.
His parole officer was named Roger Smith,

1210
01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:33.680
and I'm sorry his parole well,
I don't the parole officer shit. And

1211
01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:38.960
how he got out so quickly and
was allowed to move to San Francisco is

1212
01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:42.239
covered in the Summer of Syops episodes, and we'll be getting deeper into that

1213
01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:45.000
when we get into that but he
didn't. He wasn't he didn't have permission

1214
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:48.880
to go to San Francisco, but
he was being protected by his parole officer.

1215
01:44:50.760 --> 01:45:00.720
Okay, back to this, Okay, So after he gets out,

1216
01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:03.199
he's playing music at the Tenderloin district
and gathering a large and devoted group of

1217
01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:06.479
followers. In this free period of
freedom, he lived with and associated with

1218
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:12.159
hundreds of different people, many of
them prominent in the entertainment industry. He

1219
01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:15.880
made numerous contacts in the music business, including Dennis Wilson, Nil Young,

1220
01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:18.880
and Terry Melcher, the son of
Doris Day and the former occupant along with

1221
01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:24.359
Candice Bergan at the Cielo Drive home
where the tape murders occurred. Charlie even

1222
01:45:24.399 --> 01:45:28.399
reportedly served as a religious consultant.
That's actually not true about the monkeys and

1223
01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:30.760
shit. There's a rumor that he
auditioned for the monkeys, but that would

1224
01:45:30.760 --> 01:45:34.239
have been impossible because he was actually
in prison at the time. He was

1225
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:40.760
also deeply involved in a number of
criminal enterprises well before the consecutive blood blast

1226
01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:45.199
that thrust him into the national spotlight. As author Joel Norris has noted,

1227
01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:48.880
Charlie was a drug dealer and contract
killer and had become involved in the underworld

1228
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:53.800
crime, murder for higher rings,
and child pornography. More to say on

1229
01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:57.359
that when we get to the actual
killings. Interesting enough, Manson has said

1230
01:45:57.399 --> 01:46:00.920
that the family's most well known victims
were involved in some of this same enterprises.

1231
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:03.680
Quote don't you think those people deserve
to die? They were involved in

1232
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:10.720
kitty porn. Charlie had also had
previously noted allied himself with various Satanic cult

1233
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:14.439
groups that, as Norris notes,
were quote heavily based on ritual bondage,

1234
01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.880
sacrifice and also murder. You know, Charlie would have been the type of

1235
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:23.720
guy who would have known the deep
dark secrets and goings on of these Hollywood

1236
01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:27.840
elite type And if that's all he
did was whack a bunch of child killers

1237
01:46:28.119 --> 01:46:32.600
and child rapists, Hey, that's
off to Charlie. According to Ed Sanders,

1238
01:46:32.600 --> 01:46:36.920
who interviewed numerous members and associates of
the family, Manson was also involved

1239
01:46:38.079 --> 01:46:43.159
involved in the production and distribution of
snuff films. We'll get more into that,

1240
01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:46.279
and that also ties into one of
the shootings during the David Berkowitz spree

1241
01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:51.399
that was filmed and used for the
same purposes. This is so disturbing.

1242
01:46:51.479 --> 01:46:57.039
Man again, and if this is
all wrapped up into the same if this

1243
01:46:57.119 --> 01:47:01.399
all criss crosses in an intertwined the
way it is, hundred s Thompson might

1244
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:05.880
pop up. And this too,
because we're talking about Boystown previously, even

1245
01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:11.159
though that was a little bit before
the time frame that they're discussing. Now,

1246
01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:15.760
we're talking about snuff films and child
pornography and all this other stuff.

1247
01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:18.199
All this stuff is orchestrated by the
same people. So Hundress Thompson would have

1248
01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:24.319
been involved with those people too.
If what you know, what is his

1249
01:47:24.439 --> 01:47:31.279
name? Russ and Bonanci have both
said about Hundre s. Thompson being involved

1250
01:47:31.279 --> 01:47:35.039
in them. You're just joining us
trigger warning because this is kind of dark

1251
01:47:35.079 --> 01:47:41.039
shit that we're talking about here.
In the aftermath of the Teton Lombianca murders,

1252
01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:45.199
the LAPD, one of whom officers
co owned the auto shop that Charlie

1253
01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:48.479
lived in just a few months before
the murders, couldn't really be bothered with

1254
01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:54.800
the wealth of evidence that implicated family
members in the murders. The department also

1255
01:47:54.880 --> 01:47:59.399
refused to acknowledge and examine the obvious
connections between the two murder scenes, severely

1256
01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:03.159
hampering the investigation. They likewise refused
to explore the connections between the murder of

1257
01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:09.239
musician Gary Hinman and the other two
more high profile crimes. The La Sheriff's

1258
01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:13.079
Department had already sawd the Hyman case
no thanks to the LAPD, and had

1259
01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:15.800
taken Bobby Bousselat into custody just a
few days before the tape murders. The

1260
01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:19.640
sheriff knew of his connections to the
family and of the connections between the three

1261
01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:25.800
crime scenes. Two motorcycle gang members
with close ties to the family, Al

1262
01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:30.560
Springton and Danny DeCarlo, the Strait
Satans, had given the sheriff's damning testimony

1263
01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:35.720
concerning the family's involvement in all three
murders. To Carlo, who was reportedly

1264
01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:40.520
a member of the Processed Church,
appears to have provided security for Charlie and

1265
01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:44.760
the family. He kept a large
arsenal of weapons at the family compound,

1266
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:50.079
including a three to zero three British
an Enfield rifle, a twenty two rifle,

1267
01:48:50.119 --> 01:48:55.359
a twenty gage shotgun at thirty caliber
carbine, at twelve twelve gauge riot

1268
01:48:55.359 --> 01:48:59.359
gun, an M one carbine and
submachine gun the family, it should be

1269
01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:03.800
noted operate as the hippie cole that
they have been portrayed as being their base

1270
01:49:03.800 --> 01:49:10.199
of operations was more of a paramilitary
compound than it was a commune, complete

1271
01:49:10.239 --> 01:49:15.199
with guard shacks at lookout points,
telescopes, walkie talkies, military field telescopes,

1272
01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:19.319
and converted dune buggies equipped with machine
gun mounts. And also remember there

1273
01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:24.920
on the Spawn Ranch, which is
a movie set, which is quite interesting

1274
01:49:25.399 --> 01:49:30.399
as well. When the sheriffs pass
along to the LAPD the information they had

1275
01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:35.960
obtained from their informants, LA's finance
proceeded due absolutely nothing. Meanwhile, on

1276
01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:40.520
September one, nineteen sixty nine,
just a few weeks after the Tate murders,

1277
01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:43.800
a twenty two caliber revolver was found
in Sherman Oaks and turned into the

1278
01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:46.800
LAPD. The gum was a rather
rare and unique firearm and just happened to

1279
01:49:46.840 --> 01:49:50.479
match the description of the weapon suspected
of being used in the killings, right

1280
01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:55.479
down to the broken handle that provided
a perfect pit for the handle pieces that

1281
01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:59.800
were recovered at the murder scene.
Nevertheless, the department tagged and filed the

1282
01:49:59.800 --> 01:50:02.960
web and it was promptly forgotten for
months. The department later sent out a

1283
01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:05.880
flyer with the photo of the weapon, failing to realize that they had already

1284
01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:12.319
had the gun in custody. Bumbling
idiots or is this planned? It took

1285
01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:15.960
or as Charlie being protected. It
took a phone call from the father of

1286
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:18.800
the boy who had found the gun
to get the department to acknowledge its existence,

1287
01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:23.800
and even then the caller was initially
told that the gun had probably been

1288
01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:28.199
destroyed. That's like the most important
piece of evidence and it seems like it

1289
01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:33.680
got brushed off elsewhere. Family member
Susan Atkin had been arrested on unrelated charges

1290
01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:39.720
and was spending time in the Civil
brand Institute for Women, and as we

1291
01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:43.239
know, while there, she gave
detailed confessions of the murder to at least

1292
01:50:43.239 --> 01:50:46.359
two fellow inmates. She claimed that
the family had already committed eleven murders and

1293
01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:50.600
quote many more were going to die. Both of these women tried to pass

1294
01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:55.640
this information along the LAPD, but
both were repeatedly denied permission to do so.

1295
01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:58.520
This was in spite of the fact
that one of the female jailers to

1296
01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:02.279
whom these reporters were made his requests
were made, was at the time dating

1297
01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:09.039
one of the Tate case homicide detectives. Just to throw this in here too,

1298
01:51:09.039 --> 01:51:12.479
when he said something about the gun
being destroyed. This is a common

1299
01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:17.560
thing when those who we consider our
public officials, the ones that are supposed

1300
01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:21.079
to be, you know, carrying
out the law because apparently we can't do

1301
01:51:21.119 --> 01:51:30.159
that for ourselves. They did the
same thing with Kurt Cobain. The the

1302
01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:39.239
police of Seattle allowed and right in
front of like they was they were incinerating

1303
01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:42.520
the murder web. Well, yeah, the murder weapon, not the suicide

1304
01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:45.239
weapon, but the murder weapon,
the rifle or the shotgun, whatever they

1305
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.760
said it was. Yeah, they
let they let Courtney Love do that.

1306
01:51:48.840 --> 01:51:56.359
She also had ties into all types
of my control type stuff. One of

1307
01:51:56.399 --> 01:52:01.640
those she was very over sexed as
a young child, and she was wrapped

1308
01:52:01.720 --> 01:52:04.439
up in a lot of messed up
stuff, a lot of mind control stuff.

1309
01:52:04.479 --> 01:52:09.079
So yeah, she had CIA written
all over her. And whatever they

1310
01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:13.560
did, she knows people, and
they knew her, and it was a

1311
01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:17.439
protection thing. It didn't matter how
freaking clumsy and stupid she was about it.

1312
01:52:18.600 --> 01:52:21.600
One of the inmates later said,
quote, it was the hardest thing

1313
01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:25.479
I've ever tried to do in my
life to get anyone to listen to me.

1314
01:52:26.399 --> 01:52:30.359
It would appear then that the labd
had, among other evidence, all

1315
01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:34.520
the following at their disposal, the
eyewitness account of a participant in the crimes,

1316
01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:39.720
the gun used in the crimes,
and the statements of too close associates

1317
01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:43.720
of the killers directly implicating them in
the crimes. Yet they chose not to

1318
01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:47.520
act on any of this for a
period of several months. Though no serial

1319
01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:51.399
killer slash mass murder in history has
likely achieved the level of notable, So

1320
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:56.239
basically what that means is he wasn't
the guy that they had gone out to

1321
01:52:56.239 --> 01:52:58.680
do that stuff, wasn't done doing
the job that he had to do,

1322
01:52:58.760 --> 01:53:02.239
so they could have and to pull
him in, yet because he still had

1323
01:53:02.279 --> 01:53:09.359
work to do. Those who'd moved
the hands of these mechanisms weren't weren't budging

1324
01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:14.960
yet variety or generated the volume of
media coverage that Charles Manson has, many

1325
01:53:14.960 --> 01:53:18.279
of the most compelling facts the Manson
case remained largely unknown to the public.

1326
01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:23.239
A particular significance, perhaps, are
the myriad levels on which the killers and

1327
01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:27.600
the victims were connected. One of
these connections was provided by none other than

1328
01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:31.159
Anton Levey. At least one of
Charlie's girls, known locally as the Witches

1329
01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:38.279
of Mendocino, was recruited for LaVey's
Church of Satan. Susan sexy Sadie Atkins

1330
01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:42.920
was one of many dancers in Labay's
stable, collectively known as the Topless Witches.

1331
01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:46.680
Review Atkins later credited Levey was starting
her down the road to murder.

1332
01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:50.479
Family member Bobby Bousela, who was
a roommate and by some accounts, a

1333
01:53:50.520 --> 01:53:56.560
lover of Child's star turned underground filmmaker
Kenneth Anger, was also recruited from the

1334
01:53:56.640 --> 01:54:00.399
Church of Satan. Interestingly enough,
LaVey had connection to the victims as well.

1335
01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:05.520
He had formed a close association with
Roman Polanski shortly before the murders,

1336
01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:11.960
when he served as a technical consultant
for Roman Polanski on the film Rosemary's Baby,

1337
01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:16.399
in which he also made a cameo
appearance as who Else Satan. We

1338
01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:20.760
talked about this in a video that
I did with Marcus where we talked about

1339
01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:26.159
John Travolta and Tom Cruise and how
they got involved in scientology. And the

1340
01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:30.800
very first movie that John Travolta ever
did was called The Devil's Reign, and

1341
01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:34.279
there's a picture of him with his
arm around Anton LaVey that you can see

1342
01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:39.039
in that where he also was consulting
on that maybe you have to do a

1343
01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:43.560
Satanic movie or something to get your
jump in Hollywood, because right after that

1344
01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:47.039
he got welcomed back cat her.
Interestingly enough, Leavey had connections. Okay,

1345
01:54:47.039 --> 01:54:53.359
so we covered that on the set
of an earlier film, Tate herself.

1346
01:54:53.439 --> 01:54:56.119
Let me turn the music down a
little bit here. Check in with

1347
01:54:56.159 --> 01:55:01.399
you guys, because I feel like
I'm just rambling. Ah, but you're

1348
01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:09.720
not rambling, sir. Okay,
right there? What about April thirtieth,

1349
01:55:10.239 --> 01:55:15.199
I'm not sure what you mean,
Vegan. Can you please clarify that's him?

1350
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:18.840
The dude doesn't even feed his flock. This gets worse, Yes,

1351
01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:25.039
it does. Okay, get the
music turned down a little bit. Continuing

1352
01:55:25.079 --> 01:55:30.479
on on the set of an earlier
film, Tate herself. This is Sharon.

1353
01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:38.439
Tate had reportedly been initiated into the
into witchcraft by Alexander Saunders Sammy Davis

1354
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:41.520
Junior, who was introduced to the
Church of Satan by Manson. Victim j

1355
01:55:41.680 --> 01:55:45.920
Sebring has said of the victims who
were killed at Tate's Yellow Drive residents quote

1356
01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:49.279
everyone there had at one time or
another been into Satanism. Some newspapers,

1357
01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:55.840
some newspaper reports at the time of
the slayings denounced the sensationalism. Were rife

1358
01:55:55.880 --> 01:56:00.760
with reports that the Philansopies were Satanists
who hosted drug and sex orgies. I

1359
01:56:00.760 --> 01:56:03.920
don't know if they were Satanists,
but they definitely did host those orgies.

1360
01:56:04.600 --> 01:56:10.600
And shortly before the actual murders,
they had a whipping down of one of

1361
01:56:10.640 --> 01:56:15.399
the people over a drug deal gone
bad at the house, and there was

1362
01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:17.359
many, many people there to watch
that. They got up to some funky

1363
01:56:17.359 --> 01:56:24.479
shit, and they also found sex
tapes with famous Hollywood celebrities at the Tate

1364
01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:30.039
Polanski residence, but they mysteriously disappeared
after that once they got into the police's

1365
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:36.199
hands. Of course, think were
and this again points to this not just

1366
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:46.159
being about a bunch of random,
disorganized cult members detached from any other type

1367
01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:55.720
of influence. It has all the
markings of an institutional, systemic problem that

1368
01:56:57.399 --> 01:57:02.199
you know, expresses itself or manifest
itself occasionally as a cult, But it's

1369
01:57:02.399 --> 01:57:10.159
really just a reflection of what's going
on inside of these hidden communities within our

1370
01:57:10.399 --> 01:57:15.319
system. And we can talk about
the government programs, and I'm not talking

1371
01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:23.520
about your government cheese. I'm talking
about the clandestine operations, the strangeness that

1372
01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:28.800
they do on public rituals and also
public experiments. You know, what do

1373
01:57:28.800 --> 01:57:33.279
you think the acid was all about? You know, wide scale experimentation to

1374
01:57:33.439 --> 01:57:39.000
erode the walls and then have a
culture right there ready for you to replace

1375
01:57:39.079 --> 01:57:43.720
what you once had morality and reshape
you forever, so that they could erode

1376
01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:48.119
a road to road for every decade
to follow. So I'm not saying that

1377
01:57:48.159 --> 01:57:55.479
this is no I am saying that
this isn't just a cult. It's not

1378
01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:59.640
just a bunch of crazy people that
went through a shitty life and YadA YadA.

1379
01:57:59.640 --> 01:58:03.560
No, this is guided And these
tapes, these these are these are

1380
01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:08.479
blackmail tapes. So they had to
get those out of there, blackmail tapes

1381
01:58:08.520 --> 01:58:11.720
that they probably didn't destroy. I'm
sure they just got to where they could

1382
01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:15.439
be, you know, secure if
ever needed. Indeed, just days before

1383
01:58:15.479 --> 01:58:19.319
the murders, Oh here we go, a drug dealer was reportedly filmed being

1384
01:58:19.359 --> 01:58:24.239
whipped at the house in an SNM
ritual. Various celebrities were said to have

1385
01:58:24.239 --> 01:58:29.039
been in attendance. Actor Dennis Hopper
spoke in interviews of statistic movies filmed at

1386
01:58:29.039 --> 01:58:31.520
the house that featured some of Hollywood's
biggest names. Gee, where we heard

1387
01:58:31.560 --> 01:58:40.840
this shit before Rings of Epstein anyone? Another connection was provided by the Essalon

1388
01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:43.960
Institute, and I think we touched
upon this in the last one. They

1389
01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:47.319
quote New Age Retreat and Monterey with
ties to Crowley enthusiasts. Did he say,

1390
01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:50.760
Esslon, we're talking about Terrence mc
kennet, like all these people.

1391
01:58:53.159 --> 01:58:58.279
It's I have to just read the
entire Transhumanism book to you. I just

1392
01:58:58.479 --> 01:59:01.479
because he outlines all of this stuff
and more, I mean, not into

1393
01:59:01.560 --> 01:59:04.840
greater detail. Like if you could
take so many of those topics though,

1394
01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:08.800
and just say, okay, I
want to I want to research this,

1395
01:59:09.159 --> 01:59:12.239
and you'd have a wealth of,
you know, things to do because all

1396
01:59:12.399 --> 01:59:15.279
the other little tiny points are put
together for you so you know where to

1397
01:59:15.319 --> 01:59:18.479
start looking. And it's like helps
just focus your research. It's really really

1398
01:59:18.520 --> 01:59:21.159
cool. So what was I writing
here? Hold on a second. Oh

1399
01:59:21.199 --> 01:59:27.239
yeah, Tara Tinao defended Polanski and
you did it multiple times, but he

1400
01:59:27.279 --> 01:59:33.319
definitely did it on a very infamous
Howard Stern that I played a couple videos

1401
01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:36.720
ago. I'm not sure how long
ago it was, but yeah, you'll

1402
01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:43.279
ye up. I get hit plan
on this one. Timothy leary like mind,

1403
01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:49.439
Timothy Leary's like minded Himalaya Academy.
See how everything connects to everything else?

1404
01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:53.920
I think we covered Timothy Leary as
well. And then that also ties

1405
01:59:53.960 --> 01:59:58.840
into Alvis Huxley too, who we
talked about a couple episodes back. Manson

1406
01:59:58.920 --> 02:00:01.840
had ties to both. He had
in fact visited Esslon, where Robert de

1407
02:00:01.920 --> 02:00:08.520
Grinstead of the Processed Church reportedly lectured
occasionally. Just a few days before the

1408
02:00:08.520 --> 02:00:12.119
Tate killings. On the very day
of the murders, someone from within the

1409
02:00:12.159 --> 02:00:16.000
Polanski home placed a call to the
institute. For reasons unknown, one of

1410
02:00:16.039 --> 02:00:20.399
the victims, Abigail Folger, may
have visited the retreat just a few days

1411
02:00:20.399 --> 02:00:26.279
before Manson's visit. And we're also
going to get into Hubbard too, And

1412
02:00:26.319 --> 02:00:29.600
this is kind of a piece of
it about how again everything connects to everything

1413
02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:33.800
else. Author Robert Heinlein was also
reportedly invited to lecture at Esslon. Heinleine,

1414
02:00:33.800 --> 02:00:39.880
who like Hubbard, first gained notice
petting pieces for astounding science fiction is

1415
02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:44.000
probably best known as the author of
the nineteen sixty one novel Stranger in a

1416
02:00:44.039 --> 02:00:49.319
Strange Land. The book provided Mancy
with Manson with a Mancy Nancy. The

1417
02:00:49.359 --> 02:00:54.119
book provided Manson with the Crowley inspired
script to follow, and it was one

1418
02:00:54.159 --> 02:00:57.920
of the few books that Charlie allowed
his disciples to read. Heinlein was a

1419
02:00:58.000 --> 02:01:01.720
right winger with strong authoritarian leaning,
who to this day nevertheless continues to be

1420
02:01:01.720 --> 02:01:10.880
promoted by various voices in the progressive
community. Another link between the Principles and

1421
02:01:10.920 --> 02:01:14.479
the case was provided by singer Mama
Cass Elliott. This is will tie into

1422
02:01:14.479 --> 02:01:19.199
the Laurel Canyon scene in the next
video. Victims voytech Forrakowski and Jay Sebring,

1423
02:01:19.479 --> 02:01:24.039
who had a history of Sadism,
were both part of Cass's click,

1424
02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:29.720
as were Manson and some of his
followers. Cass Elliott was sort of had

1425
02:01:29.760 --> 02:01:32.960
parties at her house just like they
did at Cielo, and was known as

1426
02:01:33.079 --> 02:01:36.720
Mama for a reason. She was
looked up to by most of the people

1427
02:01:36.760 --> 02:01:40.720
in the Laurel Canyon scene and was
known as sort of the mother figure.

1428
02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:47.880
Victim Abigail Folder may have been as
well. Folger had been known to be

1429
02:01:47.920 --> 02:01:53.479
friends at time with Charles Manson himself
as well as with convicted Cotton Club killer

1430
02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:57.520
Bill Menzer, and that ties into
when we get into the Son of Sam

1431
02:01:57.520 --> 02:02:01.279
stuff in New York. For the
Lad's top initial suspects and the tape murder

1432
02:02:01.359 --> 02:02:06.199
case were members of Cass Elliott's inner
circle. They remain, including Terry Melcher

1433
02:02:06.239 --> 02:02:11.640
by the way, who's That's another
story for another time. They remained prime.

1434
02:02:11.720 --> 02:02:15.720
They remained prime suspects for the first
month of the investigation. One member

1435
02:02:15.720 --> 02:02:18.279
of that circle was Pick Dawson,
the flamboyant son of a US military State

1436
02:02:18.279 --> 02:02:21.840
Department official and on and off boyfriend
of Cass. Dawson had lived in the

1437
02:02:21.880 --> 02:02:27.880
house of victims Freykowski and Folger in
the summer before the killings, while the

1438
02:02:27.880 --> 02:02:31.399
ill fated pair house sat for the
Polanski's and the future crime scene. You

1439
02:02:31.520 --> 02:02:33.800
kind of have to be a masochist. I'm not saying to say this,

1440
02:02:33.920 --> 02:02:39.760
but you had to kind of be
a masochist to be a boyfriend of Mama

1441
02:02:39.800 --> 02:02:45.720
Cass, don't you. One zero
zero five zero CLO Drive later renumbered appropriate

1442
02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:54.960
enough one zero zero six six CLO
Drive. Another connection between killers and victims

1443
02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:59.680
was provided by their shared interest in
drug trafficking several and we talked about in

1444
02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:04.600
one of the videos how Alron Hubbard
Jr. Would talk about his father's drug

1445
02:03:04.640 --> 02:03:12.399
importations as fund helping to fund scientology. We're linked to the traffick link.

1446
02:03:12.680 --> 02:03:16.119
Let me read that back, including
vortec Forrakowski, Abigail Folger, and Sharon

1447
02:03:16.159 --> 02:03:24.079
Tate herself were linked to the trafficking
of hallucinogens. Rosemary la Bianca was a

1448
02:03:24.119 --> 02:03:29.680
known trafficker of meth amphetamine and likely
other drugs as well. Forkowski had reportedly

1449
02:03:29.720 --> 02:03:32.640
secured a deal just before the murders
that would have made him an exclusive distributor

1450
02:03:32.680 --> 02:03:38.840
of m DA in the LA area. His operations financed with coffee eRASS soldiers

1451
02:03:39.079 --> 02:03:45.680
considerable financial resources. Jay Sebring,
who before the murders, had once appeared

1452
02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:49.199
in an underground movie that also featured
Mansonite. Bobby Boussel, appears to have

1453
02:03:49.279 --> 02:03:54.359
evolved in the drug trade as well, and there's some speculation that Sea Brings

1454
02:03:54.439 --> 02:04:00.079
Hairstyling Place was just sort of a
kind of a front for those drug transactions.

1455
02:04:01.239 --> 02:04:05.479
A man named Joel Rostau is known
to have delivered drugs to Seabring at

1456
02:04:05.479 --> 02:04:10.640
the Coiello House just hours before the
murders. Rostau was found murdered the next

1457
02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:14.800
year in New York City. Another
Seabring associates showed up dead just a month

1458
02:04:14.920 --> 02:04:19.199
later in Florida. Immediately following the
killings on Coiello Drive, Seabring's house was

1459
02:04:19.199 --> 02:04:25.279
thoroughly cleaned by friends before police arrived
to conduct a search. The Manson family

1460
02:04:25.359 --> 02:04:29.039
was also heavily involved in drug dealing, including trafficking in LSD, Hashish,

1461
02:04:29.079 --> 02:04:31.560
marijuana, and cocaine. Just a
couple of days after the killings, Mansion

1462
02:04:31.640 --> 02:04:34.920
was seen driving a black Mercedes Benz, possibly owned by an underling of a

1463
02:04:34.960 --> 02:04:41.760
man named Ronald Stark. Around that
same time, Stark assumed the role of

1464
02:04:41.800 --> 02:04:45.800
banker for the quote Brotherhood of Eternal
Love, a tax exempt church that was

1465
02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:50.920
formed by a motorcycle gang with close
ties to Timothy Leary. That's the tune

1466
02:04:50.920 --> 02:04:56.359
in, tune out and whatever the
hell you know guy that kind of started

1467
02:04:56.399 --> 02:05:00.760
all the shit, whose quote is
saying that the CIA was responsible for the

1468
02:05:00.800 --> 02:05:04.800
sixties basically, and he was an
asset. Yeah, he most certainly wasn't

1469
02:05:04.840 --> 02:05:09.920
that. So he was straight up
cee A. He was also Ordo Templey

1470
02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:17.600
Orienttis. This Crowley is crolling,
crawling all over this. If you know

1471
02:05:17.760 --> 02:05:23.560
the connections to this, he inspired
the modern age, yes, but like

1472
02:05:23.720 --> 02:05:31.720
directly specifically. These people are followers
studiers of Alisair Crowley. Hmmm, this

1473
02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:34.319
might be a good time to show
a little video clip. So the Brotherhood

1474
02:05:34.359 --> 02:05:39.760
was led by a man named Farmer
John Grills. I feel like I've been

1475
02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:42.840
reading forever, so I will show
you a little bit another movie clip,

1476
02:05:43.319 --> 02:05:45.039
and we can they will show you
a little bit more about the brotherhood,

1477
02:05:45.520 --> 02:05:50.560
Brotherhood of eternal Love and such,
and we'll kind of be able to take

1478
02:05:50.600 --> 02:05:55.960
a break here without me just sitting
here reading, and I can riff off

1479
02:05:55.960 --> 02:05:58.880
of some of the things that are
in this little documentary. So let me

1480
02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:00.920
play this for you guys. It's
about a ten minute thing, and then

1481
02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:04.159
we can jump off. We can
jump back to where we were. That's

1482
02:06:04.199 --> 02:06:09.640
what I like to do. Commentary, smooth, smooth transition. Commentary is

1483
02:06:09.680 --> 02:06:13.079
always nice. I mean, reading's
fine too. I don't mind doing the

1484
02:06:13.119 --> 02:06:16.119
reading part either, And you'll have, as they say in scientology, the

1485
02:06:16.239 --> 02:06:23.159
mass on the subject, rather than
just some idiot endlessly reading. This speculates

1486
02:06:23.159 --> 02:06:26.880
on how Manson was a CIA asset
and how he came to be able to

1487
02:06:26.880 --> 02:06:31.159
control his flock with his incredible hypnotic
powers, and by asset that by no

1488
02:06:31.199 --> 02:06:36.680
means has any That doesn't mean you're
of an official, official capacity, nor

1489
02:06:36.720 --> 02:06:43.039
are you a master of your own
destiny. You're not like somebody with a

1490
02:06:43.079 --> 02:06:46.039
title in an office space. That
don't don't get that in your head.

1491
02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:49.920
It just means you're manipulated and used
by these people, and you're aware that

1492
02:06:49.960 --> 02:06:56.279
you're being used and manipulated because as
affording you opportunities for things that you want.

1493
02:06:58.640 --> 02:07:03.239
However, the most curious, troubling
aspect of Manson was his inexplicable ability

1494
02:07:03.279 --> 02:07:10.880
to control minds of his followers.
They called themselves family him and went and

1495
02:07:10.920 --> 02:07:14.600
the number of aid from twenty to
thirty. Police said they were a pseudo

1496
02:07:14.680 --> 02:07:20.640
religious culture. Manson used some of
the same mind controlled techniques to see how

1497
02:07:20.720 --> 02:07:26.279
developing at the time under project in
Ultra. I want to know if there's

1498
02:07:26.359 --> 02:07:33.239
a tie in between this family and
we already know the processed church part,

1499
02:07:33.319 --> 02:07:40.880
but David Bergs Children of God,
because that'll tie into all the like a

1500
02:07:40.880 --> 02:07:45.880
lot of the Hollywood cult activity in
a different era and in a different area,

1501
02:07:46.000 --> 02:07:49.840
I should say, because these are
all overlapping. But the children of

1502
02:07:49.880 --> 02:07:54.600
God that would put us back into
the you know, the family of the

1503
02:07:54.800 --> 02:08:01.119
River Phoenix and and all that.
That that conversation again and another insight into

1504
02:08:01.479 --> 02:08:05.560
what went on with depth undress Thompson
and all that other stuff. Just hypnotism

1505
02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:13.239
plus d trauma and other types of
bental conditioning to turn disaffected suburban sides into

1506
02:08:13.600 --> 02:08:18.800
brand killers. But where did he
learn such skills? Deeper inspection. The

1507
02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:24.800
whole story reeks of an intelligence operation, especially to the failiar with the CIA's

1508
02:08:24.800 --> 02:08:33.000
session with Mind. A former Man
family member described medicine's intent to systematically kidnapped

1509
02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:41.119
programmed children takes some relindious organization called
out into the world. This one's chopping

1510
02:08:41.359 --> 02:08:46.359
crazy hard. I guess he's not
hearing that on his end, But that's

1511
02:08:46.399 --> 02:08:50.640
how it recorded. It's not my
computer. It's just the way his recording

1512
02:08:50.800 --> 02:08:54.920
ended up on his stream. If
it's like that and it's psychic driving you

1513
02:08:54.960 --> 02:09:00.439
into into insanity too, then we'll
have to uh love to bip gip ahead

1514
02:09:00.439 --> 02:09:03.119
a little bit on this. Let
me just give it a few seconds.

1515
02:09:03.439 --> 02:09:07.880
Charlie wanted to use the fountain as
a basic headquarters to go out and kidnap

1516
02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:18.520
kids. Bring them there program.
They just showed eleven, which is interestingly

1517
02:09:18.640 --> 02:09:22.720
enough, eleven is a number of
magic. Right. Yeah. If this

1518
02:09:22.800 --> 02:09:26.399
keeps doing this though, we can't
listen to it like this, well that's

1519
02:09:28.079 --> 02:09:31.119
okay. Here's another connection. And
he wants to he wants to kidnap children.

1520
02:09:31.199 --> 02:09:33.119
This is one of Charlie's plans.
This is the same guy who said

1521
02:09:33.119 --> 02:09:37.119
something about they are all pedophiles.
They would you really care if they were

1522
02:09:37.159 --> 02:09:41.600
dead? But it sounds like he's
grabbing children for this various purpose. Section

1523
02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:45.960
the Fountain of the World cult.
Let me see if I can find this.

1524
02:09:48.039 --> 02:09:52.640
Okay, so check this out,
So lose the camera again. Okay,

1525
02:09:52.760 --> 02:09:58.279
So this again is from Ed Sanders
book again link at the description box.

1526
02:09:58.479 --> 02:10:01.079
You can get a whole bunch of
free books from pdf. And this

1527
02:10:01.119 --> 02:10:05.119
is an amazing read. By the
way, another input into the mind of

1528
02:10:05.159 --> 02:10:11.039
Manson was provided by a religious cult, the Fountain of the World, located

1529
02:10:11.079 --> 02:10:15.560
west of the Spawn Ranch and Box
Canyon near the San and Susannah Fire Department.

1530
02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:18.680
He was very impressed with the fountain
and spent a lot of time visiting

1531
02:10:18.760 --> 02:10:22.760
it. Charlie was basically trying to
form his own cult in his own religion.

1532
02:10:24.199 --> 02:10:26.520
This is why he would send Bruce
Davis and people off on missions to

1533
02:10:26.600 --> 02:10:30.520
try to set up his own churches. And he was sort of He was

1534
02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:33.760
involved in so many different cults,
not least in the Hayte Ashbury scene when

1535
02:10:33.760 --> 02:10:37.399
this was a thing, and with
his mind he was trying to formulate his

1536
02:10:37.439 --> 02:10:41.840
own cult. The Fountain of the
World, a religious sect dedicated to quote

1537
02:10:41.880 --> 02:10:46.359
peace through love and service, or
so the sign on the hill above the

1538
02:10:46.359 --> 02:10:50.520
cult corner Reeds, was an apocalyptic
Christian cult that held public meetings every Saturday

1539
02:10:50.600 --> 02:10:54.560
night. Several of the Spawn ranch
Hands, including Shorty Shay, were associated

1540
02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:58.039
with the Fountain of the World.
Ranch Hands would attend the Fountain's religious meetings

1541
02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:03.960
and group songs sessions. Manson and
the family occasionally attended these meetings. A

1542
02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:07.159
black guy named John was involved in
the leadership at the Fountain of the World,

1543
02:11:07.439 --> 02:11:11.640
and Manson several times hungered to take
the place over. When I hear

1544
02:11:11.880 --> 02:11:22.279
apocalyptic Christian cult, I immediately think
crypto Francists at the helm of something like

1545
02:11:22.319 --> 02:11:26.640
that. That sounds very forced the
hands of God Zionists in a sense,

1546
02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:35.199
but in a different light. You
go the cult members wore robes and practiced

1547
02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:39.159
celibacy. Charlie assigned some of the
girls to try to seduce the priests of

1548
02:11:39.199 --> 02:11:43.239
the order, evidently to no avail. The Fountain was formed by a holy

1549
02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:48.960
man named Krishna Venta, who died
by violence. The family grooveed with the

1550
02:11:50.000 --> 02:11:54.760
violent history of the Fountain. The
religious retreat occupied subterranean chambers and caves,

1551
02:11:56.279 --> 02:12:01.680
wherein they did their thing. As
the cult progressed, dissension ensued and parties

1552
02:12:01.760 --> 02:12:07.119
unknown blew up the founder, Christiana
Venta, and nine of his followers with

1553
02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:11.359
forty pieces of dynamite placed in the
catacombs. This occurred on twelve ten,

1554
02:12:11.760 --> 02:12:16.880
nineteen fifty eight. Where after the
fountain struggled onward and was still thriving when

1555
02:12:16.880 --> 02:12:22.359
Manson. So it struggled onward and
was still thriving when Manson discovered it.

1556
02:12:22.479 --> 02:12:26.119
Charlie seems to have gotten the idea
for his crucifixion ceremony from the Fountain of

1557
02:12:26.159 --> 02:12:28.760
the World. There was a large
rock at the Fountain of the World that

1558
02:12:28.800 --> 02:12:31.960
looked remarkably like a huge skull.
At the top of the skull was a

1559
02:12:33.000 --> 02:12:37.800
wooden upright cross. Fountain members so
one is told, were wont to strap

1560
02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:45.279
themselves up on the cross for penitential
meditation sessions. Far out man not far

1561
02:12:45.319 --> 02:12:48.399
from the Spawn ranch, the family
discovered an almost secret clearing guarded by the

1562
02:12:48.479 --> 02:12:54.600
natural surrounding wall. Of the large
wall of large boulders. On one side

1563
02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:58.359
of the clearing was a hill,
the Hill of Martyrdom. For upon this

1564
02:12:58.479 --> 02:13:05.239
hilly bowlder shouldered secret clar was performed
perhaps the world's first outdoor LSD crucifixion ceremony.

1565
02:13:05.600 --> 02:13:07.800
And any of you guys that know
the Manson story know that he,

1566
02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:11.199
you know, part of what he
did was pretend to be Jesus and actually

1567
02:13:11.039 --> 02:13:18.399
actually acted out this cross ceremony minus
the nails. There they snuffed Charlie and

1568
02:13:18.439 --> 02:13:22.720
the role of Jesus strapping not nailing
him to an actual rustic cross, while

1569
02:13:22.760 --> 02:13:26.720
others, acting as tormentors and apostles, jeered or wheeped. One chosen female

1570
02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:31.640
was Mother Mary, cloaked and weeping
at the foot of the cross. Then

1571
02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:37.239
they fucked, evidently after some form
of resurrection service. Na August at nineteen

1572
02:13:37.279 --> 02:13:39.880
sixty eight, part of the family
spent about a week living at the Fountain

1573
02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:43.720
of the World. There's talk that
Manson gave about two thousand dollars of the

1574
02:13:43.760 --> 02:13:46.840
money given to the family by Juanita
to the fountain. At some point in

1575
02:13:46.880 --> 02:13:52.560
its development, the family PARTICKI.
The girls began to say Amen, Amen

1576
02:13:52.039 --> 02:13:58.199
whenever Charlie spoke, as if his
words were divine. Manson began to formulate

1577
02:13:58.199 --> 02:14:03.880
obstin's task tests for his followers,
as when he was told Sadie it's obedience

1578
02:14:05.079 --> 02:14:09.680
tests gluts during a meal to go
get him a coconut, even if she

1579
02:14:09.760 --> 02:14:15.239
had to go clear to Rio.
She executed an about face and she trotted

1580
02:14:15.279 --> 02:14:18.680
off to Rio. This is the
power that he had over his flock.

1581
02:14:18.399 --> 02:14:24.279
However, after a few steps he
called her back another time. It's just

1582
02:14:24.319 --> 02:14:28.800
like being under hypnosis. Manson programmed
these people, and when he told him

1583
02:14:28.840 --> 02:14:31.000
to do something, it doesn't matter
how ridiculous it is. It's just like

1584
02:14:31.039 --> 02:14:35.640
giving a hypnotic command to the subconscious
and you act on it, no matter

1585
02:14:35.680 --> 02:14:39.359
how ludicrous. And there are stories
of him actually sending people all across the

1586
02:14:39.399 --> 02:14:45.439
world to just for the hell of
it, man, just to see if

1587
02:14:45.439 --> 02:14:48.479
they're under command. I'm thinking of
a story of what l Ron Hubbard and

1588
02:14:48.520 --> 02:14:56.399
one of his hypnosis things he had
a man put his hand on a bar,

1589
02:14:56.239 --> 02:15:00.199
and he would tell him, he
would suggest to him that he it's

1590
02:15:00.199 --> 02:15:01.880
getting hotter and hotter, and he's
gonna die if he if he doesn't take

1591
02:15:01.920 --> 02:15:05.520
his hand off. But he can't
take his hand off. And the guy

1592
02:15:05.600 --> 02:15:09.399
was just sitting there and torment until
Hubbard finally released the post ichnotic command.

1593
02:15:11.479 --> 02:15:13.479
She executed a bow. Okay.
However, after a few days he called

1594
02:15:13.479 --> 02:15:16.520
her called her back. Another time
in a meeting at the Fountain of the

1595
02:15:16.560 --> 02:15:20.920
World, when he was trying to
impress the Fountain members with the with the

1596
02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:24.239
obedience of his followers, he instructed
Little Paul to go spend a week on

1597
02:15:24.359 --> 02:15:30.079
the cross, which Little Paul darted
off to do, but the wizard Manson

1598
02:15:30.479 --> 02:15:33.760
showed mercy and called them back.
Okay, Jesus Christ, Okay. So

1599
02:15:33.840 --> 02:15:39.119
that's it. On that we will
go back to this right where we were,

1600
02:15:39.680 --> 02:15:43.760
with the added bonus of a little
bit of music in the background.

1601
02:15:45.119 --> 02:15:56.880
Check in with you guys, see
how you're doing. Blazes his career,

1602
02:15:58.840 --> 02:16:05.159
that am I on here? Yet
if you compare that with Tom O'Neil's book.

1603
02:16:05.159 --> 02:16:09.560
He goes into great detail about how
Bogliosi was full of shit, and

1604
02:16:09.600 --> 02:16:11.840
how much he actually lied in his
book, it's quite astonishing. And what

1605
02:16:11.920 --> 02:16:16.560
a psychopath Bogliosi was too. Not
only did he make up a lot of

1606
02:16:16.560 --> 02:16:20.560
the story to fit his own agenda, but he was a very crazy person.

1607
02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:24.640
I don't know, Mark, how
many cults does it take to change

1608
02:16:24.640 --> 02:16:33.959
the light bulb, Lady Veritas,
there seems to be a blueprint throughout human

1609
02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:37.399
history. It's hard to tell one
corruption from another. Makes you wonder who's

1610
02:16:37.399 --> 02:16:43.159
really pulling the strings? Okay,
exactly. That's kind of why we're hammering

1611
02:16:43.159 --> 02:16:45.559
on the sixties and shit, lady, because I don't think the world and

1612
02:16:45.600 --> 02:16:48.959
the way that things operate have necessarily
changed. I just think they'd become more

1613
02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:52.239
perfected. And what do they say, if you don't learn from your past,

1614
02:16:52.479 --> 02:16:54.399
you know, you're found to repeat
it or some shit like that.

1615
02:16:54.440 --> 02:17:03.920
Well, here we are, okay, carrying on just a couple of days

1616
02:17:03.920 --> 02:17:05.520
after the killings. Okay, I
think we covered that. Okay, so

1617
02:17:05.600 --> 02:17:09.600
we covered Oh back to the freakin'
movie. Sorry, So we were jumping

1618
02:17:09.639 --> 02:17:15.760
off of here where the Brotherhood of
the Eternal Love is going to play a

1619
02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:18.920
role in this little documentary that I
might as well finish playing here too.

1620
02:17:20.000 --> 02:17:22.440
This is just a quick way to
kind of understand what the hell this is

1621
02:17:22.479 --> 02:17:33.840
all about. Manson maintained a seemingly
endless supply of Druss for his cult,

1622
02:17:33.559 --> 02:17:45.920
including the rare strain of LSD called
Orange Sunshine, which exclusively from him,

1623
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:50.239
known as the Brotherhood of Eternal.
Obviously, isn't a professionally done documentary.

1624
02:17:50.280 --> 02:17:54.360
Really, I'm sorry for the music, but at least the information is here

1625
02:17:54.639 --> 02:18:01.479
known to have well established connections to
the central intelligency. Well, we took

1626
02:18:01.559 --> 02:18:05.680
hundreds of trips together with Charlie.
He actually did almost like drug programming.

1627
02:18:07.319 --> 02:18:13.680
Conspiracy researchers that delate Manson was sort
of programmed new created by the CIA and

1628
02:18:13.760 --> 02:18:20.600
set loose against what was seen as
a new and subversive self society. Ensign's

1629
02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:26.040
neglectful and traumatic childhood would certainly have
made him a likely mind controlled candidate.

1630
02:18:26.719 --> 02:18:33.440
He was incargrated at Vaucaville State Inn, where CIA spooks were recruiting MK ultra

1631
02:18:33.600 --> 02:18:35.840
test subjects at the time. I
want to hear something interesting, So you

1632
02:18:35.920 --> 02:18:43.479
just said Vaucaville State Prison right now, How the hell does scientology get itself

1633
02:18:43.479 --> 02:18:46.559
into the prison system. All we
have to do is ask Robert von Jung,

1634
02:18:46.680 --> 02:18:50.079
let me see if I can pull
this up. So check this out.

1635
02:18:52.200 --> 02:18:54.760
They had a system. I need
to explain this a little bit before

1636
02:18:54.799 --> 02:19:00.559
I pulled this up. We talked
about in the Raising a Secret Society series

1637
02:19:00.879 --> 02:19:05.360
how me and my dad used to
grade lessons from inmates via a front group

1638
02:19:05.680 --> 02:19:13.239
by Scientology called Criminon. Before that
that that started before q Andon. There

1639
02:19:13.280 --> 02:19:18.239
was Criminon Frown in the seventies.
Before that, they would get Scientology into

1640
02:19:18.239 --> 02:19:24.280
prison systems through differently named but still
using the same procedure as Criminon and Robert

1641
02:19:24.360 --> 02:19:26.159
von Jung, who has since spoken
out, and he's featured on one of

1642
02:19:26.200 --> 02:19:30.920
the episodes called The Bridge to Total
Amnesia, where he's actually demonstrating to a

1643
02:19:30.959 --> 02:19:35.639
news crew how the trs work after
he wakes up. He was actually at

1644
02:19:35.680 --> 02:19:41.040
Vaucaville, and he gives us some
a little bit of intel on how I

1645
02:19:41.079 --> 02:19:43.040
don't think there's not much of a
difference, by the way, between Scientology

1646
02:19:43.079 --> 02:19:46.719
programming and m k Alta programming,
so it's basically the same thing. And

1647
02:19:46.760 --> 02:19:50.680
this is how he kind of gets
They get him into the prison system under

1648
02:19:50.719 --> 02:19:54.120
the nose of the guards and ship
see this is what I'm saying, And

1649
02:19:54.159 --> 02:19:58.040
where did these come from? El
Ron was I'm not sure how deeply into

1650
02:19:58.200 --> 02:20:05.280
naval intelligence he was in, but
he was obviously into some sort of secret

1651
02:20:05.319 --> 02:20:11.360
society or type of religious sect that
would have given him the proper clearance,

1652
02:20:11.680 --> 02:20:15.760
as per Bill Cooper who says,
you don't get very far and you definitely

1653
02:20:15.840 --> 02:20:20.479
don't get picked for naval intelligence unless
you are a Freemason, be a Mormon,

1654
02:20:20.680 --> 02:20:26.680
or something in those lines like Oddfellows
something like that. Right, So

1655
02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:33.399
he was created. I see al
Ron Hubbard as being created and put out

1656
02:20:33.399 --> 02:20:39.680
there in the public to do what
he did and allow access because they were

1657
02:20:39.719 --> 02:20:41.920
so clumsy, like Operations snow White, which I don't even think they're going

1658
02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:48.120
to discuss tonight because this is about
Manson, not about the scientology aspect.

1659
02:20:48.920 --> 02:20:52.920
But they they blatantly do things that
should put them all in jail forever and

1660
02:20:54.040 --> 02:20:58.959
it doesn't happen. So how does
that not work? How does it that

1661
02:20:58.079 --> 02:21:01.639
they have the ability to I mean, some people falls, and people don't.

1662
02:21:01.760 --> 02:21:07.639
They just keep moving on, you
know. And I would think that

1663
02:21:07.920 --> 02:21:11.319
Crowley would have disagreed that he was
the successor, even though he may have

1664
02:21:11.319 --> 02:21:20.879
claimed that Hubbard was disliked by Crowley
and disappointed he Crowley was disappointed with JPL

1665
02:21:22.040 --> 02:21:26.680
founder Jack Parsons too because he was
saying that he's going to get taken that

1666
02:21:28.120 --> 02:21:31.600
not to trust Hubbard, and you
know when when he did end up losing

1667
02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:37.319
his money and his girlfriend, Crowley
was a little disgusted with his soft headed

1668
02:21:37.360 --> 02:21:43.639
his his his soft minded fool of
a friend who prior to that, he

1669
02:21:43.639 --> 02:21:48.879
said, should have been the only
person to take over the Agape Lodge because

1670
02:21:48.920 --> 02:21:52.280
he was the most qualified for the
OTO. So Parsons was in favor,

1671
02:21:52.520 --> 02:21:58.920
high favor, strong favor of Crowley
until he got duped by a by a

1672
02:21:58.959 --> 02:22:03.079
douchebag who you know went out into
the sand dunes with him and jerked off

1673
02:22:03.079 --> 02:22:09.120
to try to get the Babylon working
gone. So. An ex intelligence officer

1674
02:22:09.159 --> 02:22:13.920
for Scientology, Robert von Jung said, I was at staff at the Davis

1675
02:22:13.920 --> 02:22:16.879
franchise from nineteen sixty nine until nineteen
seventy one. Well, because of the

1676
02:22:16.920 --> 02:22:20.079
work that I was doing in Davis, I started to do some public relations

1677
02:22:20.079 --> 02:22:24.200
work as well as some other staff
positions there, meeting the media. I

1678
02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:28.319
was also running a program in Vaucaville
Prison, which is a medical facility that's

1679
02:22:28.360 --> 02:22:31.600
just west of Sacramento, happens to
be the one where Charlie Manson was kept

1680
02:22:31.639 --> 02:22:35.319
for a long time that I would
go in every you know, every week

1681
02:22:35.399 --> 02:22:41.280
and hold the class in scientology.
We know Ted Kaczynski was also a victim

1682
02:22:41.360 --> 02:22:45.840
of the mk ulture project, and
it's discussed in those episodes that I told

1683
02:22:45.879 --> 02:22:50.559
you about, and I'm sure you
guys know the prison's top level universities,

1684
02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:54.120
including UCLA Stanford University, which is
where the murder of Arles Perry when we

1685
02:22:54.159 --> 02:23:00.799
get to David Berkowitz plays in.
They were experimenting with people's minds in you

1686
02:23:00.840 --> 02:23:03.879
know, completely illegally, in Project
mk Ultra. That's what it was all

1687
02:23:03.920 --> 02:23:09.040
about. And when they were finally
it was so compartmentalized nobody knew about it.

1688
02:23:09.079 --> 02:23:15.040
But ironically l Ron Hubbard did in
a nineteen fifty one book called Science's

1689
02:23:15.079 --> 02:23:20.399
Survival. He tries to quote unquote
expose mk ultra because somehow he was hip

1690
02:23:20.399 --> 02:23:24.920
to this shit and mk ultra wasn't
officially foreign until it trained in the shit.

1691
02:23:26.159 --> 02:23:28.639
Right, He's going to probably say
fifty two, but cybernetics was going

1692
02:23:28.680 --> 02:23:33.799
on before that Curley was around.
He Cury died in forty seven. All

1693
02:23:33.840 --> 02:23:37.399
these things that they're accrediting to the
paper Clip when it comes to mind control,

1694
02:23:37.799 --> 02:23:41.200
that's bullshit. If you look at
what Curley wrote, if you look

1695
02:23:41.239 --> 02:23:46.280
at what they did and practice,
all those techniques were being done by him

1696
02:23:46.799 --> 02:23:50.440
long before there was any talk about
paper Clip. They already had that information.

1697
02:23:50.760 --> 02:23:58.479
He was already British intelligence at the
time. So it's not true it's

1698
02:23:58.760 --> 02:24:05.399
mostly curly stuff. It's Cruellianity.
April of nineteen fifty three coincidence, are

1699
02:24:05.440 --> 02:24:11.840
not Scientology Peak became incorporated in Camden, New Jersey in December of that same

1700
02:24:11.920 --> 02:24:16.000
year, nineteen fifty three, and
since that one didn't take off very well,

1701
02:24:16.319 --> 02:24:20.440
in February of nineteen fifty four,
they set up their real headquarters where

1702
02:24:20.440 --> 02:24:24.319
it did kick off, in Los
Angeles. Sorry for the ramble. Hopefully

1703
02:24:24.360 --> 02:24:28.200
you can see how the project down
KULT was so compartmentalized that it wasn't known

1704
02:24:28.200 --> 02:24:33.239
about until nineteen seventy four when they
had congressional and state hearings, and even

1705
02:24:33.280 --> 02:24:37.799
then only a fraction of the information
survived and ninety five percent of it was

1706
02:24:37.879 --> 02:24:43.120
destroyed. And even then The number
of projects that they did on unwinning people

1707
02:24:43.920 --> 02:24:48.159
is incredible. So how big was
the fucking project really? And the big

1708
02:24:48.239 --> 02:24:54.280
question is is it still going on
today the whole country? And yet now

1709
02:24:54.280 --> 02:25:01.000
it's an open laboratory called America and
everyplace else. So here we go back

1710
02:25:01.040 --> 02:25:05.120
to the if they can poison your
food, water, and air and hit

1711
02:25:05.159 --> 02:25:13.120
you with electronic frequencies and radio ways
to stifle and suppress your thoughts, ideas,

1712
02:25:13.239 --> 02:25:16.440
trigger emotions and hormones, what the
hell do you think would you call

1713
02:25:16.479 --> 02:25:22.840
that? Would you not call that
an experiment? What about legal highs?

1714
02:25:24.120 --> 02:25:31.280
Legal highs like I don't know,
bath salts, MDPV methyloleene. Right,

1715
02:25:31.879 --> 02:25:35.440
they make it legal, you buy
it with a credit card online, They

1716
02:25:35.479 --> 02:25:39.079
know where it's going to and if
they want to monitor you, they know

1717
02:25:39.120 --> 02:25:43.639
how to do that. So if
they want to mess with you and see

1718
02:25:43.680 --> 02:25:46.959
how much of that they can,
who knows was there nano and that stuff

1719
02:25:46.959 --> 02:26:01.120
that you're snorting? Little documentary researchers
can only speculate as to what brainwashing Manson

1720
02:26:01.200 --> 02:26:05.159
might have received. How what he
certainly seems on board with the agenda.

1721
02:26:05.760 --> 02:26:11.280
You're gonna have one world government.
We've gotta have a world course that can

1722
02:26:11.360 --> 02:26:13.280
do don't face in the world,
that you can get away from in the

1723
02:26:13.360 --> 02:26:18.239
beans. I know that that is
probably a long way away. Might be

1724
02:26:18.719 --> 02:26:22.559
well, she as many as I
can't. I'm gonna value this God.

1725
02:26:22.959 --> 02:26:26.959
I'm figuring about fifty me, about
fifty million. I mean, I might

1726
02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:28.879
be able to shave my trees and
my air and my water and my wildlife.

1727
02:26:31.760 --> 02:26:37.120
But it was his taught to a
Satanic cult that researchers believe ultimately motivated

1728
02:26:37.159 --> 02:26:43.479
the tape murders. We have a
weird im say, A scene described by

1729
02:26:43.479 --> 02:26:48.239
one investigator is reminiscent of a weird
religious rite. Five persons, including actress

1730
02:26:48.239 --> 02:26:50.600
Sharon Taday, were found at the
home of Miss Tate and her husband,

1731
02:26:50.719 --> 02:26:56.079
screen director Roman Polanski. According to
author Bari Terry, Manson was affiliated with

1732
02:26:56.159 --> 02:27:01.680
the process's church, spinning to the
wolfs time at the cult. Again,

1733
02:27:01.719 --> 02:27:03.479
guys, if you're watching this,
that's not me, that's his recording and

1734
02:27:03.559 --> 02:27:09.159
playback rude from his life stream.
I can't stop those pops and stops and

1735
02:27:09.239 --> 02:27:15.879
clicks and breaks old and borrowing ideas
that would become part of his helter Skelter

1736
02:27:16.639 --> 02:27:20.760
theology. There are people that maintained
Manson learned everything he knew the process,

1737
02:27:22.239 --> 02:27:26.000
like the apocalyptic ideas that they preached. For a lot of the guys who

1738
02:27:26.079 --> 02:27:33.639
was interested in study and clearing your
mind, that where silent anthology, and

1739
02:27:33.639 --> 02:27:39.520
then it got to be the John
Todd spoke of man's affiliation with the process

1740
02:27:39.520 --> 02:27:46.239
search Manson, the brother that he
belonged to is called the process and claimed

1741
02:27:46.280 --> 02:27:52.079
its murder was a cult sacrifice.
That's what the taste were about. The

1742
02:27:52.120 --> 02:27:56.520
other ship to be there. She
wanted out and you don't get out Sharon

1743
02:27:58.120 --> 02:28:03.000
okay, a was a witch's kidding. Sharon Tate won out. But the

1744
02:28:03.079 --> 02:28:16.319
theme is, no, I don't
know what's up with him. It's still

1745
02:28:16.319 --> 02:28:20.559
ticking. I don't think he knows
that it's off. He's anybody who was

1746
02:28:20.559 --> 02:28:24.799
in witchcraft doing that time tired the
same thing. If you remember she was,

1747
02:28:24.360 --> 02:28:28.079
she was still one leg was thunder
from the raptor and hands behind her.

1748
02:28:28.760 --> 02:28:33.680
His tot slashed sofa. There was
a tow seventy eight CODs and a

1749
02:28:33.719 --> 02:28:37.079
tower deck. You look at the
twelf major otane one, it's looked it

1750
02:28:37.280 --> 02:28:46.680
looked like a handman. That's exactly
how Sharon Tate LaBianca was left still don't

1751
02:28:46.680 --> 02:28:50.319
know. I don't think he knows
that he's not, that he's muted or

1752
02:28:50.360 --> 02:28:56.319
something. They were everywhere, rope
tied twice around. Sharon Tate's neck was

1753
02:28:56.399 --> 02:29:05.319
looped over a beam and tied around, Filling Manson's commands to leave something witchy.

1754
02:29:05.680 --> 02:29:13.159
I said, if you're gonna something, leave something witchy, just tack

1755
02:29:13.239 --> 02:29:16.520
out what you are you. If
you're going to do something, do it

1756
02:29:16.559 --> 02:29:24.479
well and leave something witchy. Yeah, I don't know. It's up with

1757
02:29:24.520 --> 02:29:31.360
this part of his production here with
it keeps the reason that the capitation was

1758
02:29:31.360 --> 02:29:37.319
a family project. Some torture and
some bury the pieces. Family member Susan

1759
02:29:37.440 --> 02:29:43.159
Atkins describe the group's ritual sick.
All right, we're gonna have to just

1760
02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:46.479
push your head on this because this
is a irritating your time. And if

1761
02:29:46.479 --> 02:29:50.120
we miss anything. I can play
it back a little bit because because it

1762
02:29:50.200 --> 02:29:54.040
says someone says here the sound is
skipping, So please let me know the

1763
02:29:54.079 --> 02:29:58.680
sound is skipping. Does this work
any better? My friends? Let's take

1764
02:29:58.719 --> 02:30:03.159
it back a little bit. I
said, if you're good, wanna do

1765
02:30:03.280 --> 02:30:09.120
something, leave something witchy? Okay, what tell you if you're gonna do

1766
02:30:09.200 --> 02:30:16.959
something, dude, it least something
witchy. Only later the world discover the

1767
02:30:18.120 --> 02:30:24.760
true horrors that had been taking place
within the Manson's demented family Together Love,

1768
02:30:24.840 --> 02:30:31.680
Together Together, Why Shorty shags the
condition with a highlight project some torture?

1769
02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:35.879
Okay, it's too bad, apparently, I don't know why it's skipping so

1770
02:30:35.959 --> 02:30:37.479
much. I wonder if the other
ones were, So we'll skip that,

1771
02:30:37.520 --> 02:30:39.920
but I'll leave a link in the
description box so you guys can check that

1772
02:30:41.000 --> 02:30:43.719
out and we'll get back to what
we were freaking reading. That sucks,

1773
02:30:43.719 --> 02:30:48.520
man, I'm gonna have to figure
that out. Okay, So you guys

1774
02:30:48.559 --> 02:30:52.159
saw the stuff on the Brotherhood of
the Eternal Love. You got a basic

1775
02:30:52.200 --> 02:30:54.440
idea, and like I said,
you can cheer out the whole documentary,

1776
02:30:54.440 --> 02:31:00.280
which goes into also the Jim Jones
cult. It's skipping so bad, I'm

1777
02:31:00.280 --> 02:31:05.399
gonna have to jump sorry, Andrew
a bit better. Okay, doesn't look

1778
02:31:05.440 --> 02:31:07.680
like it's working that well, so
we'll just go ahead and read this shit

1779
02:31:07.920 --> 02:31:11.000
stand by please, Thank God.
I will figure that out in the future.

1780
02:31:16.239 --> 02:31:24.559
Okay, get a little bit of
music going in here, stand by,

1781
02:31:24.600 --> 02:31:30.440
please. This is just lovely.
Shit, isn't it guys, Jesus

1782
02:31:30.479 --> 02:31:35.159
hang on a second, need to
see a fucking puppy. After this,

1783
02:31:35.959 --> 02:31:41.280
the death of Griggs resulted in a
massive shakeup at the organization that resulted in

1784
02:31:41.319 --> 02:31:46.040
the shadowy Stark becoming the Brotherhood's sole
banker and money manager. Under Stark's guiding

1785
02:31:46.159 --> 02:31:50.040
light, the Brotherhood became the largest
known producer and distributor of LSD in the

1786
02:31:50.079 --> 02:31:56.559
world, reducing some fifty million doses. Stark was also closely linked to a

1787
02:31:56.600 --> 02:32:01.159
parallel acid producing operation in the UK
dubbed the micro Gang, which likewise produced

1788
02:32:01.159 --> 02:32:07.440
millions of hits of LSD in the
early nineteen seventies. While running his empire,

1789
02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:11.360
Stark was known to have extent how
much money do you make when it's

1790
02:32:11.399 --> 02:32:15.440
like, I don't know what boys
back then, but it's like what a

1791
02:32:15.559 --> 02:32:20.600
dollar three dollars a hit? Like
what that's like the get rich slow scheme,

1792
02:32:20.680 --> 02:32:26.159
get into cocaine or something. So
contacts with American embassy personnel and to

1793
02:32:26.200 --> 02:32:31.040
have frequent visitors from both the British
and the American consulates. And as you

1794
02:32:31.079 --> 02:32:35.600
saw in that documentary, or maybe
not because it was so skippy, there

1795
02:32:35.680 --> 02:32:41.040
was cia connections to the to the
Brotherhood of Eternal Love, which was the

1796
02:32:41.079 --> 02:32:45.879
main acid producer during this time.
Were the Manson's killings. In reality,

1797
02:32:45.879 --> 02:32:48.319
part of what might be dubbed the
Great Acid Coup of nineteen sixty nine,

1798
02:32:48.399 --> 02:32:52.120
were the result of an operation aimed
at, among other things, killing off

1799
02:32:52.159 --> 02:32:58.760
some of competitors, intimidating others,
and consolidating control of the hallucinogenic drug market.

1800
02:32:58.920 --> 02:33:03.399
The possibility clear exists. The police
originally were drawn to the theory that

1801
02:33:03.440 --> 02:33:07.680
the killings were drug related. Other
early theories were that the killings were occult

1802
02:33:07.719 --> 02:33:11.200
inspired, or that the true motive
could be found in what was dubbed fame

1803
02:33:11.360 --> 02:33:18.200
porn. Perhaps It's all of them. Films and videos found at the Polanski

1804
02:33:18.239 --> 02:33:24.760
home suggested in an elite Hollywood wife
swapping operation. The folder for Krakowski home

1805
02:33:26.200 --> 02:33:30.879
also yielded a box of erotic photos
of Hollywood's elite. Would that be maybe

1806
02:33:30.920 --> 02:33:35.399
for blackmail material? There were also
indications of the involvement of organized crime in

1807
02:33:35.440 --> 02:33:41.280
the killings. Leo LaBianca had known
underworld connections, to whom he reportedly owed

1808
02:33:41.319 --> 02:33:43.680
nearly two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
in gambling debts at the time of the

1809
02:33:43.760 --> 02:33:48.239
murders of LaBianca home, which I
must add, perhaps gratuitously, was once

1810
02:33:48.280 --> 02:33:52.239
owned by Walt Disney, was known
to have its phone lines tapped. I

1811
02:33:52.280 --> 02:33:56.440
could also add here, perhaps rather
gratuitously, as well, that Walt Disney

1812
02:33:56.479 --> 02:34:01.079
was a direct descendant on his mother's
side of George Burrows, the quote Grand

1813
02:34:01.120 --> 02:34:05.319
Wizard of the Witches executed in Salomon
sixteen ninety two. One mistaken impression that

1814
02:34:05.360 --> 02:34:09.440
many people have about the Manson case
is at the homes where the attacks took

1815
02:34:09.440 --> 02:34:13.799
place were largely chosen at random.
That was hardly the case. Manson was

1816
02:34:13.920 --> 02:34:18.120
very familiar with the Polanski Tait home, which he had visited in the past.

1817
02:34:18.600 --> 02:34:22.239
Manson knew both the owner of this
Dielo Drive home, Rudy Albelly,

1818
02:34:22.559 --> 02:34:26.239
I'm probably not pronouncing that, right
Alta Belly, right, Alta Belly,

1819
02:34:26.680 --> 02:34:30.959
and the previous tenant, Terry Melcher, who along with Charlie, was involved

1820
02:34:31.000 --> 02:34:33.959
with the Processed Church, as was
John Phillips. That's Papa John Phillips,

1821
02:34:35.639 --> 02:34:39.639
who was the uh one of the
singers and the mamas and the papas along

1822
02:34:39.639 --> 02:34:43.719
with cass Elliott. And he's the
father of Bju Phillips. Who is the

1823
02:34:43.760 --> 02:34:48.799
wife of convicted rapist Danny Masterson cass
Elliott's bandmate and another associate of Manson.

1824
02:34:50.399 --> 02:34:52.559
Charlie was familiar with the LaBianca.
How home was well, it was right

1825
02:34:52.600 --> 02:35:01.120
next door to the home of Harold
True Hoops Skip, who had hosted LSD

1826
02:35:01.239 --> 02:35:05.479
parties attended by Charlie and his followers
before the murders. How many of you

1827
02:35:05.639 --> 02:35:11.559
grew up hearing that he was a
dejected musician who just went on a rampage

1828
02:35:11.639 --> 02:35:16.239
killing all the people who said no
to his his music. That's that's one

1829
02:35:16.239 --> 02:35:20.440
of the That's one of the lines
that instead of you know, getting into

1830
02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:24.159
his inner connectedness to all these things
that could expose others, it was,

1831
02:35:24.559 --> 02:35:28.719
Oh, he just got angry and
told all these kids to start killing these

1832
02:35:28.719 --> 02:35:35.520
people who were in Hollywood and and
music, like the music producers because they

1833
02:35:35.920 --> 02:35:39.040
didn't they rejected his album. It's
a it's a bit of a stretch.

1834
02:35:41.120 --> 02:35:48.760
And we think that Sharon Tate was
pregnant with Roman Pulaski's child, but she

1835
02:35:48.879 --> 02:35:52.479
may not have been if they were
into wife swapping, and you know,

1836
02:35:52.639 --> 02:35:56.479
the them being part of a cult
and then her being sacrificed to it.

1837
02:35:56.639 --> 02:36:01.520
Are two different things. If she
was just a swinger, I don't think

1838
02:36:01.559 --> 02:36:05.040
she definitely didn't deserve that, and
neither did the child, the unborn child

1839
02:36:05.719 --> 02:36:09.440
at all. One particularly bizarre fact
about the take killings that has gone largely

1840
02:36:09.520 --> 02:36:13.600
unreported is that the crime scene appeared
to have been rearranged. Oh shit,

1841
02:36:15.600 --> 02:36:16.760
I don't know if you see what
I see on the screen, But just

1842
02:36:16.840 --> 02:36:22.639
wait for it. We're gonna get
our the confirmation here that I had said

1843
02:36:24.319 --> 02:36:28.840
mentioned earlier, it's coming up changed. After the killers had left, an

1844
02:36:28.840 --> 02:36:31.719
attempt appeared to have been made to
pose the victim's bodies on the home's front

1845
02:36:31.760 --> 02:36:37.680
porch, after which the corpses were
reposed inside the house. That very beginning

1846
02:36:37.760 --> 02:36:41.159
article by Miles Mathis goes into that
more and again. I'll link that in

1847
02:36:41.280 --> 02:36:46.680
description because that appears to have happened, and that's quite unusual. Evidence of

1848
02:36:46.719 --> 02:36:52.719
tampering with the crime scene included an
unidentified bloody boot heel print found on the

1849
02:36:52.719 --> 02:36:56.520
front porch of the house and a
number of unidentified fingerprints on the premises.

1850
02:36:58.239 --> 02:37:03.399
Really Manson was ultimately arrested on charges
unrelated to the murders on October twelfth.

1851
02:37:03.440 --> 02:37:07.959
Alistair Curley's birthday following a raid on
the family compound, and was only later

1852
02:37:09.040 --> 02:37:13.040
charge in connection to the killings.
Charlie had previously been arrested or charged on

1853
02:37:13.120 --> 02:37:18.719
forty or more occasions. One of
those arrests in nineteen sixty seven was made

1854
02:37:18.719 --> 02:37:22.840
by narcotics teams led by LAPDS Frank
Salerno. So Erna would later lead the

1855
02:37:22.879 --> 02:37:28.079
task force investigating both the Hillside Strangler
murders and the night Stalker killings, and

1856
02:37:28.120 --> 02:37:31.440
when we get into part two,
you'll see the interconnections of the everything from

1857
02:37:31.559 --> 02:37:37.479
Lewis, Jolly and West to other
people that were very closely involved in not

1858
02:37:37.639 --> 02:37:43.239
just one suspected murder or high profile
case, but many. When the Manson

1859
02:37:43.319 --> 02:37:46.719
case came to trial, there were
the usual strange occurrences it seemed to plague

1860
02:37:46.760 --> 02:37:50.280
serial killer trials. The lead defense
attorney, Ronald Hughes, had just passed

1861
02:37:50.280 --> 02:37:54.280
the bar and yet to try a
single case. He was, needless to

1862
02:37:54.319 --> 02:37:58.200
say, a rather odd choice to
spearhead the defense of one of the most

1863
02:37:58.280 --> 02:38:03.840
vigorously prosecuted and high profile murder cases
of all time. Hughes soon went missing

1864
02:38:03.920 --> 02:38:07.239
and later turned up dead on the
very day that death sentences were returned by

1865
02:38:07.280 --> 02:38:11.280
the jury. Family member John Phillip
zero Hot, not charged with playing a

1866
02:38:11.360 --> 02:38:15.760
role in the murders, also turned
up dead allegedly after playing a game of

1867
02:38:15.840 --> 02:38:20.079
Russian Roulette. Another member of the
family was whisked away to Patent State Hospital,

1868
02:38:20.280 --> 02:38:26.719
which was reportedly deeply immersed in overt
behavior modification experiments in the nineteen seventies.

1869
02:38:26.159 --> 02:38:30.520
Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the
trial was that the defense team rested

1870
02:38:30.559 --> 02:38:35.479
their case without bothering to actually present
one courtroom viewers were stunned when not a

1871
02:38:35.520 --> 02:38:39.239
single witness was called to rebut the
prosecutor's case, thereby virtually guaranteeing a win

1872
02:38:39.280 --> 02:38:43.559
for Bugliosi in the state. Also
of notice that then President Richard Nixon declared

1873
02:38:43.559 --> 02:38:48.639
Manson guilty on national television, nearly
causing a mistrial, but ultimately greatly aiding

1874
02:38:48.799 --> 02:38:54.319
the prosecution's efforts. When it was
all over, Judge Order pronounced death sentences

1875
02:38:54.319 --> 02:38:58.680
for Charlie Patricia Kremwigle, Susan Atkins, and Leslie Van Houghton. The sentences

1876
02:38:58.680 --> 02:39:03.120
were delayed on of all days,
April nineteenth, nineteen seventy one, the

1877
02:39:03.200 --> 02:39:11.159
year before Bobby Bobby Bobly Bobby Bussel
had become the first family member to receive

1878
02:39:11.200 --> 02:39:15.479
a death sentence when the jury is
trying to shit. I fucked it up

1879
02:39:16.559 --> 02:39:22.680
when the jury trying him returned the
sentence in the Gary Hinman murder trial.

1880
02:39:22.719 --> 02:39:28.479
The date was April twenty first,
nineteen seventy, the day after Hitler's birthday.

1881
02:39:28.879 --> 02:39:31.559
Here's an important point, and we're
getting close to ending off this particular

1882
02:39:31.600 --> 02:39:37.280
segment here. This is really interesting. So perhaps in no other serial killer

1883
02:39:37.360 --> 02:39:41.200
case, as a subject of mind
control played a more central role. That

1884
02:39:41.360 --> 02:39:46.600
Charlie had a remarkable ability to control
his followers as a well established and widely

1885
02:39:46.600 --> 02:39:50.959
acknowledged fact. And he didn't learn
or earn all of those credentials in prison

1886
02:39:52.200 --> 02:39:56.239
playing around with books. He was
what would you say, if you are

1887
02:39:56.239 --> 02:40:00.920
a pianist, you'd be classically trained, except your teacher would be somebody in

1888
02:40:00.959 --> 02:40:05.000
the CIA. Even more remarkable is
that Manson has maintained much of that control

1889
02:40:05.040 --> 02:40:09.360
from inside a prison cell for over
thirty years now, and we know obviously

1890
02:40:09.360 --> 02:40:11.840
he's died since the writing of this
book. In fact, the control that

1891
02:40:11.920 --> 02:40:16.680
he had over his disciples was the
primary basis for Manson's murder convictions. While

1892
02:40:16.680 --> 02:40:20.559
it was Charlie's face that came to
symbolize the killings, he did not personally

1893
02:40:20.559 --> 02:40:24.559
participate in the Tate Law Beyonca murders. According to the official version of events,

1894
02:40:24.879 --> 02:40:28.600
he was not even present at the
crime scenes when the murders took place.

1895
02:40:30.040 --> 02:40:33.159
He merely suggested to his followers what
they should do, and they obligingly

1896
02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:37.440
followed his commands in order to convict
Manson. Then it was necessary for the

1897
02:40:37.879 --> 02:40:45.079
And he may not have even done
that, but he may because of Manson

1898
02:40:45.479 --> 02:40:54.559
Charlie's kooky ways of receiving things and
his ways of I don't know understanding things,

1899
02:40:56.680 --> 02:41:00.239
may be covering for something else and
just said, yeah, I told

1900
02:41:00.280 --> 02:41:03.479
them to do it because something else
is going on. The prosecution to convince

1901
02:41:03.479 --> 02:41:07.879
the jury that the actual killers were
virtually powerless to disobey their leader. For

1902
02:41:07.959 --> 02:41:13.440
this reason, the Manson trial had
no real precedent in American legal history.

1903
02:41:13.879 --> 02:41:18.959
What the Manson case demonstrated was that
it could be proven in a court of

1904
02:41:18.040 --> 02:41:22.280
law that a person could be compelled
to essentially act against his or her will.

1905
02:41:24.600 --> 02:41:28.680
That had already been established in a
Danish court in a landmark case recalled

1906
02:41:28.680 --> 02:41:31.959
by Esterbrooks and hypnotism. That's the
point I made on one of the very

1907
02:41:31.959 --> 02:41:37.920
first episodes when I first started talking
out about this shit. Scientology practices covert

1908
02:41:37.959 --> 02:41:41.959
hypnotism without a license, completely illegally, and why can't they be prosecuted since

1909
02:41:41.959 --> 02:41:46.799
there's been a precedent sent with the
Manson case, why can't they be prosecuted

1910
02:41:46.840 --> 02:41:54.360
for hypnotizing people without their consent?
So with that in mind, by the

1911
02:41:54.360 --> 02:41:58.920
way, this George Easterbrooks book on
hypnotism is very telling, and they'll all

1912
02:42:00.280 --> 02:42:03.840
be a free PDF of that book
in the description box a few hours after

1913
02:42:03.840 --> 02:42:07.079
the video publishes. I'm not sure
where this description box is that he's referring

1914
02:42:07.079 --> 02:42:09.840
to, but when you look down
underneath this video, I'm pretty sure you

1915
02:42:09.840 --> 02:42:11.959
don't see any of that stuff.
And he's been talking about all kinds of

1916
02:42:11.959 --> 02:42:18.920
links gonna be there. An amateur
hypnotist named Nielsen had induced a hypnotic subject

1917
02:42:18.000 --> 02:42:22.559
named Hardrup to commit a murder.
Nielsen, the hypnotist, got a life

1918
02:42:22.600 --> 02:42:28.559
sentence, the maximum penalty in Denmark. Okay, the battery has died and

1919
02:42:28.600 --> 02:42:31.000
we've been going for one fifty,
so I'm gonna have to change the battery.

1920
02:42:31.600 --> 02:42:33.879
And while I do that, I'm
going to try to play this.

1921
02:42:35.079 --> 02:42:37.520
I'm just gonna play this thing for
you again, guys, even though I

1922
02:42:37.520 --> 02:42:41.280
know it's gonna be a little shitty. Don't tune out, though, just

1923
02:42:41.319 --> 02:42:43.760
give me, give me a minute
to get this thing. Oh okay,

1924
02:42:43.799 --> 02:42:50.840
we're back. Okay, good.
Supposedly stole camera equipment, filmmaker Kennethy.

1925
02:42:50.120 --> 02:42:52.879
Is that still skipping massively? Guys? I just there's no other way to

1926
02:42:52.920 --> 02:42:56.159
test out the live streams except to
do them and fix them accordingly. But

1927
02:42:56.200 --> 02:43:00.760
I'll just play thirty seconds and let
me know if it's massively skipping. Anger.

1928
02:43:01.440 --> 02:43:05.600
One year later, Manson was of
stealing thousands of dollars worth of equipment,

1929
02:43:05.879 --> 02:43:11.120
including a camera and lights, and
they had all kinds of you know,

1930
02:43:11.520 --> 02:43:16.760
in state of the r and you
know, photography and okay again,

1931
02:43:16.799 --> 02:43:18.079
you guys can watch that afterwards.
But it just wants to know if the

1932
02:43:18.120 --> 02:43:28.079
ship's still skipping. So back to
this, Okay, So this is kind

1933
02:43:28.079 --> 02:43:33.200
of an unprecedented oops wrong one.
It's kind of unprecedented. You know that

1934
02:43:33.200 --> 02:43:39.360
they actually got Manson for hypnotism,
where you know, if the people were

1935
02:43:39.959 --> 02:43:46.239
what he's saying here is if the
people were we're hypnotized and we're acting you

1936
02:43:46.239 --> 02:43:50.239
know, uh, without their own
kind of knowledge or consent, then they

1937
02:43:50.239 --> 02:43:54.719
shouldn't be held as responsible or responsible
at all, and Charlie should be the

1938
02:43:54.719 --> 02:43:58.280
one that's being prosecuted. But instead
they all kind of got the wrap,

1939
02:43:58.479 --> 02:44:03.479
which is a contradiction in the case
that Bougliosi was kind of making a point

1940
02:44:03.520 --> 02:44:09.719
about. It's very interesting. So
an amateur hypnotist named Nielson had been induced

1941
02:44:09.719 --> 02:44:16.440
in a hypnotic subject named Hardrup to
commit a murder. Nielsen the hypnotist got

1942
02:44:16.479 --> 02:44:18.920
a life sentence the maximum penalty in
Denmark, whereas hard Up, the actual

1943
02:44:20.000 --> 02:44:24.479
murder, received a two year sentence
on the basis of temporary insanity. The

1944
02:44:24.559 --> 02:44:31.520
Manson case had a slightly different outcome. Manson the hypnotist received the death penalty,

1945
02:44:31.719 --> 02:44:35.639
the maximum sentence in the state of
California, and so did the actual

1946
02:44:35.719 --> 02:44:41.079
murders. Legally and logically, that
verdict made little sense, for if Manson's

1947
02:44:41.079 --> 02:44:45.000
control was so complete that the killers
were powerless to resist his commands, then

1948
02:44:45.000 --> 02:44:48.000
they should not have been held legally
accountable for their actions. And if Charlie

1949
02:44:48.000 --> 02:44:52.399
did not wield such power, then
he should not have been held responsible for

1950
02:44:52.440 --> 02:44:56.479
the actions of others. Prosecutor Vincent
Bugliosi, who also wrote the best selling

1951
02:44:56.520 --> 02:45:01.719
novel Helter Skelter, did not address
that inherent contradiction in his prosecution strategy.

1952
02:45:01.799 --> 02:45:07.120
In his widely read book Helter Skelter, he did ponder, albeit briefly,

1953
02:45:07.399 --> 02:45:11.840
how Manson gained such control over his
subjects. He concluded that that remains quote

1954
02:45:11.840 --> 02:45:15.799
the most puzzling question of all.
Indeed, after spending just a few pages

1955
02:45:15.840 --> 02:45:20.920
briefly summarizing some of the techniques Manson
employed on its followers, Leucliosi commented,

1956
02:45:20.840 --> 02:45:24.959
I tend to think there's something more, some missing link that enabled him to

1957
02:45:26.040 --> 02:45:30.159
so rape and bastardize the minds of
its followers that they would go against the

1958
02:45:30.200 --> 02:45:33.559
most ingrained of all commandments, that
shall not kill, and willingly and even

1959
02:45:33.559 --> 02:45:39.799
eagerly murder at his command. Charlie
himself once gave an indication of how he

1960
02:45:39.840 --> 02:45:41.639
controlled his block quote. If you
want to get to people and unlock their

1961
02:45:41.680 --> 02:45:48.360
minds, the basic way you get
them is through fear, exactly the biggest

1962
02:45:48.360 --> 02:45:52.239
weapon that's used. That was a
concept that borrowed from the teachings at the

1963
02:45:52.239 --> 02:45:56.639
processed Church. In his summer nineteen
sixty nine interview Beach Boys, Dennis Wilson

1964
02:45:56.680 --> 02:46:00.799
spoke of getting the fear. In
the same interview, he referred to Charlie

1965
02:46:00.840 --> 02:46:05.280
as quote the wizard. This is
okay. While pondering the question of how

1966
02:46:05.399 --> 02:46:09.000
Manson was able to exert such control, Bugliosi largely ignores it. Perhaps even

1967
02:46:09.040 --> 02:46:13.559
more important question where did Charlie learn
the techniques that he was so obviously skilled

1968
02:46:13.559 --> 02:46:18.360
That bogliosates that only only that it
quote may be something that he learned from

1969
02:46:18.360 --> 02:46:22.840
others, which of course is only
stating the obvious. The question not asked,

1970
02:46:22.879 --> 02:46:26.040
either in the book or at the
trial is who were the others?

1971
02:46:26.680 --> 02:46:30.639
One possible answer can be found among
the personnel at the hate Ashbury Free Medical

1972
02:46:30.680 --> 02:46:33.799
Clinic in the late nineteen sixties.
Again, this has been discussed earlier,

1973
02:46:33.840 --> 02:46:37.440
and I'm sure we'll be hitting upon
this in the next one. Two employees

1974
02:46:37.440 --> 02:46:43.120
of the clinic doctor Roger Smith,
a research a research criminologist who had started

1975
02:46:43.120 --> 02:46:48.879
the clinic's drug treatment. I'm shorthanding
in this chat because I'm trying to do

1976
02:46:48.920 --> 02:46:54.239
five different things at once. But
when you're when your hormones are being manipulated.

1977
02:46:54.440 --> 02:46:58.040
That's going to change your your your
psyche is going to change the way

1978
02:46:58.360 --> 02:47:03.239
you feel your emotions. I mean, I guess nobody's ever lived with a

1979
02:47:03.280 --> 02:47:07.120
woman and seen their ups and downs
and their ebbs and flows for them not

1980
02:47:07.200 --> 02:47:11.760
to know what a hormonal psychosis is. But that's kind of what I'm getting

1981
02:47:11.760 --> 02:47:15.840
at. When you start adding drugs
to that that drive things into the dirt

1982
02:47:15.840 --> 02:47:18.680
and raise other things up, unnaturally, you're going to be all over the

1983
02:47:18.680 --> 02:47:24.319
place. That's not a stable mind
when that happens. And that's why these

1984
02:47:24.319 --> 02:47:28.319
people are going to be more often
than not able to be pushed over the

1985
02:47:28.440 --> 02:47:31.920
edge. As far as you know, these shooters, every person like from

1986
02:47:31.040 --> 02:47:39.559
Columbine not up. They were on
prozac, prozac disassociates. They were raped,

1987
02:47:39.000 --> 02:47:43.760
they were you know, they were
raped by by people that brought them

1988
02:47:43.760 --> 02:47:48.959
in when they were juvenile delinquents,
so they had a hatred going on there.

1989
02:47:48.479 --> 02:47:54.719
There's all kinds of these little elements
that are all similar across these these

1990
02:47:54.760 --> 02:47:58.440
shooters. They're made, they're manufactured
by the psychiatrists to go out and kill

1991
02:48:00.360 --> 02:48:03.200
one. They don't eything to really
get hung up even so much on the

1992
02:48:03.239 --> 02:48:09.520
whole hormonal suppression aspect. As you
do the whole idea of the conditioning and

1993
02:48:09.559 --> 02:48:15.920
grooming by the psychiatrist and the implanting
of ideas and then the reinforcement of said

1994
02:48:15.959 --> 02:48:20.280
ideas. It's going to get to
these people to do exactly what they're seeing

1995
02:48:20.319 --> 02:48:22.280
if they can get them to do, and then they do it and like

1996
02:48:22.520 --> 02:48:28.520
yay, we did it. Next
program and doctor David Smith, who founded

1997
02:48:28.600 --> 02:48:31.879
the clinic itself, were both involved
in government sponsored research on human behavior.

1998
02:48:33.440 --> 02:48:37.079
Both had connections to Manson and his
followers. In fact, Roger Smith was

1999
02:48:37.200 --> 02:48:41.799
Charlie's parole officer, and it's discussed
in Tom O'Neil's book Chaos. He's the

2000
02:48:41.799 --> 02:48:45.799
one that basically kept him out of
prison, despite many opportunities to throw him

2001
02:48:45.840 --> 02:48:50.719
back in prison for you know,
an extended period of time. Another question

2002
02:48:50.799 --> 02:48:54.239
never addressed by Boogliosi is how it
was possible that a man of limited education

2003
02:48:54.760 --> 02:49:00.239
would spent the majority of his life
behind bars somehow acquired those skills. Y

2004
02:49:00.319 --> 02:49:05.440
US intelligence agencies, after investing countless
millions of dollars and decades of research aimed

2005
02:49:05.479 --> 02:49:09.719
at attaining that very same goal,
have allegedly met with nothing but failure.

2006
02:49:09.440 --> 02:49:13.319
I can tell you from being in
scientology, it's not met with failure.

2007
02:49:13.360 --> 02:49:18.879
You absolutely can make somebody do something
against their own will. You absolutely can.

2008
02:49:24.479 --> 02:49:28.760
Okay, it defies the explanation that
men such as Mansion or Jim Jones,

2009
02:49:28.840 --> 02:49:33.280
David Koresh, et cetera, have
stumbled upon a secret that the CIA

2010
02:49:33.399 --> 02:49:37.159
has yet to discover. It is
a patently absurd notion, and yet that

2011
02:49:37.280 --> 02:49:41.040
is exactly what we are supposed to
believe. Well, hold up at goddamn

2012
02:49:41.040 --> 02:49:43.760
second, though, dumpy lumping David
Koresh, and with Jim Jones and fucking

2013
02:49:43.879 --> 02:49:50.159
Manson, you have two manufactured assholes, and you have a guy who isn't

2014
02:49:50.479 --> 02:49:54.680
involved in doing anything wrong who got
rated because they wanted to kill him,

2015
02:49:56.399 --> 02:50:00.040
plain and simple. They had other
reasons, and they're not all known to

2016
02:50:00.600 --> 02:50:05.520
why they wanted to eradicate those people. There was plenty of other things going

2017
02:50:05.559 --> 02:50:13.040
on there, including perhaps Mina,
Arkansas's little drug run being a second stop

2018
02:50:13.079 --> 02:50:16.000
which has been right around where Waco
was, and they just wanted to clear

2019
02:50:16.040 --> 02:50:20.559
the land for that. But there's
lots of other reasons why, especially since

2020
02:50:20.600 --> 02:50:24.719
they were also monitoring the federal government
with their own radio equipment and stuff like

2021
02:50:24.799 --> 02:50:28.760
that, and their little hackers because
they knew that they were up to no

2022
02:50:28.840 --> 02:50:33.000
good, because they knew that they
were watching them. Lots of different aspects

2023
02:50:33.000 --> 02:50:39.239
going on. But what they weren't
doing was any of the stuff that they

2024
02:50:39.280 --> 02:50:43.760
were accused of. They weren't harming
the children, they weren't raping anybody,

2025
02:50:43.799 --> 02:50:48.399
they weren't forcing anybody into anything.
And the reason why they had guns is

2026
02:50:48.440 --> 02:50:52.559
because they sold them to make money
for their church, for their home.

2027
02:50:52.200 --> 02:50:58.040
They weren't hoarding them. Of course. They did also believe that the United

2028
02:50:58.040 --> 02:51:03.319
States is an evil, wicked system
of Satan, and I don't think anyone

2029
02:51:03.319 --> 02:51:07.559
can disagree with that right now.
If they could, then that's one thing,

2030
02:51:07.559 --> 02:51:11.680
but they share as hell can't.
Now. So what did David Crush

2031
02:51:11.719 --> 02:51:13.600
do again? Oh yeah, Vernon, Sorry, Vernon, He didn't do

2032
02:51:13.639 --> 02:51:18.399
anything wrong, So don't love him
in with Jim Jones, don't do it.

2033
02:51:18.559 --> 02:51:22.159
We're also supposed to believe that Charlie, while controlling the actions of others,

2034
02:51:22.639 --> 02:51:26.600
wasn't self acting on his own free
will. That's highly unlikely. If

2035
02:51:26.680 --> 02:51:31.000
Charlie was in fact in controlling the
family, The logical question to be asked

2036
02:51:31.000 --> 02:51:35.639
that trial was who was controlling Manson. Was Manson himself a puppet as well

2037
02:51:35.680 --> 02:51:41.319
as a puppeteer. That question,
naturally was never raised and so remains largely

2038
02:51:41.399 --> 02:51:46.159
unanswered to this day. Perhaps Bougliosi
felt that question unimportant, given that,

2039
02:51:46.239 --> 02:51:52.680
according to his book quote, the
Manson case was and remains unique. Doctor

2040
02:51:52.760 --> 02:51:56.399
Roger Smith saw things a little differently. In December nineteen sixty nine, he

2041
02:51:56.479 --> 02:52:01.159
told Life magazine quote, here's a
lot of Charles he's running around, believe

2042
02:52:01.239 --> 02:52:03.920
me. Okay, So we finished
with that one, got one more little

2043
02:52:03.920 --> 02:52:09.360
thing to show you? Do I
dare try another video? Or is it

2044
02:52:09.440 --> 02:52:16.600
just gonna freaking skip on that conspiracy? In terms of getting Charlie to be

2045
02:52:16.680 --> 02:52:22.280
tried. Here's what they kind of
said in the in one of the documentaries

2046
02:52:22.319 --> 02:52:26.719
regards the conspiracy to commit murder and
why they were able to convict Charlie on

2047
02:52:26.760 --> 02:52:31.520
the same ground the hypnotists, on
the same grounds as those who were hypnotized.

2048
02:52:33.079 --> 02:52:37.200
This is probably gonna skip, but
we shall see. It took forty

2049
02:52:37.200 --> 02:52:43.440
two and one half hours of deliberating
before the jury, of course it did.

2050
02:52:46.399 --> 02:52:56.120
He'd reached a verdict. Stemma,
No, okay, I think it's

2051
02:52:56.120 --> 02:52:58.959
buffering. So bad. It's not
going to do shit. Okay, let's

2052
02:53:00.440 --> 02:53:05.120
charless and smiled. Yeah, we're
not. That's if we're this something called

2053
02:53:05.120 --> 02:53:16.799
the case standard as of a naval
commander calling himself freight h on Hubbard to

2054
02:53:16.959 --> 02:53:20.760
get this section to wrap it up, or we haven't even actually started to

2055
02:53:20.760 --> 02:53:24.600
get into it. Hopefully you can
see some connections being made because we really

2056
02:53:24.639 --> 02:53:28.479
have just kind of just started.
It's so remember that quote at the beginning,

2057
02:53:28.559 --> 02:53:33.959
how the Manson story is so hard
to tell because there's so many different

2058
02:53:35.079 --> 02:53:37.079
avenues and connections. Hopefully you're starting
to see that. And I tried to

2059
02:53:37.079 --> 02:53:41.719
put this in some form where it's
disciples somewhat makes it hair. I'll read

2060
02:53:41.799 --> 02:53:46.559
for you since you're not. Another
disciple of Crowley and an occult superstar in

2061
02:53:46.600 --> 02:53:50.360
his own right was rocket fuel scientist
Jack Parsons. In nineteen thirty nine,

2062
02:53:50.479 --> 02:53:54.479
Parsons joined the Agappi Lodge of the
OTO in Pasadena, California, where he

2063
02:53:54.840 --> 02:54:01.799
also helps found the firstyge just jet
propulsion laboratory. The agape was the only

2064
02:54:01.879 --> 02:54:05.760
OTEO lodge in the States at the
time, though there was an active lodge

2065
02:54:05.799 --> 02:54:13.559
in Vancouver started by Charles Stansfield.
Charles Stansfield Jones. In nineteen forty two,

2066
02:54:13.719 --> 02:54:22.280
Parsons took the magical name of Freighter
two ten and assumed leadership of the

2067
02:54:22.319 --> 02:54:28.319
Pasadena Lodge. He was told to
lead it with the blessings of Croley,

2068
02:54:28.399 --> 02:54:33.360
not just the blessings, the demands. Parsons led the branch of the German

2069
02:54:33.399 --> 02:54:39.200
based pro Nazi Order pro Nazi throughout
the war, while at the same time

2070
02:54:39.280 --> 02:54:45.840
working on higher classified military projects reportedly
aimed at defeating the European fascist powers.

2071
02:54:45.879 --> 02:54:50.239
One of his early recruits and most
avid disciples had just served with the US

2072
02:54:50.399 --> 02:54:54.639
Navy in the Pacific and was the
son of a naval commander, calling himself

2073
02:54:54.879 --> 02:55:01.040
Freighter h You know who that is, right, He's a naval lefforicer.

2074
02:55:01.520 --> 02:55:05.280
Come on, guys, you know
we've been talking about the whole god damn

2075
02:55:05.319 --> 02:55:11.319
time scientologists, right Hubbard. He
claimed at various times to work for the

2076
02:55:11.360 --> 02:55:15.760
Los Angeles Police Department. He actually
did work alongside them. I don't think

2077
02:55:15.799 --> 02:55:18.600
he was official capacity the FBI and
the Office of Nagel Intelligence. He was

2078
02:55:18.639 --> 02:55:24.360
a spook duke. Yeah. In
truth, he may very well have worked

2079
02:55:24.399 --> 02:55:28.799
for all of them. Sense,
but we have to jump around a lot,

2080
02:55:28.959 --> 02:55:35.520
but talked about so far well at
the same time working on hollyco yet

2081
02:55:35.639 --> 02:55:39.840
did we go too far? No? No, no, no for all

2082
02:55:39.879 --> 02:55:46.200
of them? Yeah, perhaps very
known as everyone, Hubbard soon became parsons

2083
02:55:46.239 --> 02:55:48.879
right hand man. Yeah, that's
kind of gross to say when you know

2084
02:55:48.440 --> 02:55:52.520
they were beating you each other off
in the desert. Calling him his right

2085
02:55:52.520 --> 02:55:54.680
hand man, it's kind of funny, makes you laugh a little bit.

2086
02:55:54.040 --> 02:56:01.040
In nineteen forty six, the two
indepths performed an allegedly important ritual that they

2087
02:56:01.319 --> 02:56:05.280
dubbed a Babylon Working Two years later, following the death of Mentor Crowley,

2088
02:56:07.000 --> 02:56:13.399
Parsons took the oath of the Antichrist
and took on the elaborate new name Valerian

2089
02:56:13.239 --> 02:56:18.760
Armulus al Dajal. Antichrist is what
it means in like so othern language.

2090
02:56:20.360 --> 02:56:24.479
His Pasadena mansion served as the largest
temple leadership of the OTO and we have

2091
02:56:24.559 --> 02:56:35.000
to wait now. Classified military projects
reportedly a on drag it up oh here

2092
02:56:35.040 --> 02:56:39.799
it is, had for the time
being been passed by Crowley into the hands

2093
02:56:39.799 --> 02:56:46.680
of Carl Gurmer, a former Nazi
spy. Hubbard meanwhile parted ways with Parsons

2094
02:56:46.680 --> 02:56:50.520
and his money took his money and
by and his girl, and by nineteen

2095
02:56:50.520 --> 02:56:54.920
fifty had launched a the Hubbard Dianetics
Research Foundation in the New Jersey. It

2096
02:56:56.000 --> 02:57:03.760
made nineteen fifty Astounding Science Fiction,
a pulp magazine introduce dianetics as a as

2097
02:57:03.799 --> 02:57:09.159
a purportedly new science, right because
psychiatry rejected it, even though psychiatry was

2098
02:57:09.879 --> 02:57:13.079
Bolshevik bullshit in the first place,
coming out of the Age of Enlightenment of

2099
02:57:13.159 --> 02:57:20.280
nonsensical Paris. Yeah, within weeks
Hubbards blah blah blah had hit. They

2100
02:57:20.680 --> 02:57:26.559
call it alchemy of the brain.
That should tell you what fucking uh sick?

2101
02:57:26.120 --> 02:57:33.680
Well, I'm not sick, but
mystery school, secret society shit psychiatry

2102
02:57:33.760 --> 02:57:37.520
really is. It's about controlling people's
minds and making them do shit and manipulating

2103
02:57:37.559 --> 02:57:41.000
them. It's not something that's brand
new. It wasn't something that psychiatry psychiatry

2104
02:57:41.040 --> 02:57:46.399
created. It's been going on since
the dawn of man, and it's not

2105
02:57:46.440 --> 02:57:50.520
been for your benefit. In nineteen
fifty two, he moved to He moved

2106
02:57:50.559 --> 02:57:56.639
his operation to Phoenix and renamed it
the Hubbard Association of Scientologists. In June

2107
02:57:56.639 --> 02:58:00.000
of that same year, just two
days short of the Summer of soul.

2108
02:58:00.280 --> 02:58:07.200
This Parsons allegedly allegedly blew himself up
while at work in his private home lab.

2109
02:58:09.040 --> 02:58:13.639
They used to call themselves a suicide
squad because they played with dangerous explosives

2110
02:58:13.639 --> 02:58:18.440
all the time chemicals. When informed
of her son's death, his mother promptly

2111
02:58:18.520 --> 02:58:24.799
committed suicide. Rumors surrounding Parsons' death
named el Rod and Herbert Howard, Hughes

2112
02:58:24.879 --> 02:58:33.079
and Rudah and ran off her possible
suspects. Okay, well, they didn't

2113
02:58:33.079 --> 02:58:35.680
tell you exactly how parsons side.
I believe both of his legs blew off

2114
02:58:35.680 --> 02:58:39.879
and his bottom, his jaw was
ripped off of his face and he sat

2115
02:58:39.879 --> 02:58:43.000
there bleeding. And I believe his
mother actually came and saw that, and

2116
02:58:43.959 --> 02:58:50.079
she probably killed herself because that wasn't
just her son, that was her kinky

2117
02:58:50.239 --> 02:58:56.520
sex act, ritual sex lover.
And I bet you the dog was pretty

2118
02:58:56.719 --> 02:59:01.159
okay with it because now his asshole
wasn't her anymore, because he fucked the

2119
02:59:01.200 --> 02:59:05.520
dog too. Yes, this is
all truth. Two years later, following

2120
02:59:05.520 --> 02:59:09.399
the death of Mentor Crowley, Parsons
took the oath of the Antichrist, and

2121
02:59:09.840 --> 02:59:16.959
while at work in his private home
lab where we're at now nineteen fifty three.

2122
02:59:16.040 --> 02:59:20.040
The Church of Scientology was formerly incorporated
in Los Angeles. The group grew

2123
02:59:20.120 --> 02:59:26.760
quickly over the succeeding years, particularly
in the light and the late nineteen sixties,

2124
02:59:26.760 --> 02:59:33.360
when membership quadrupled with the addition of
such members as Charles Manson. Thank

2125
02:59:33.319 --> 02:59:35.600
you, we're done with him,
We're not. By nineteen sixty seven,

2126
02:59:37.159 --> 02:59:41.920
Hubbard's empire included command of a fleet
of ships. Remember the first one was

2127
02:59:41.920 --> 02:59:46.799
bought by money he stole from his
friend through the Church of Scientology. It's

2128
02:59:46.879 --> 02:59:52.120
very's hard. When informed of her
son's death, his mother promptly committed suicide.

2129
02:59:52.280 --> 02:59:58.959
So Parsons's mother also apparently committed suicide, and there's rumor and as possible

2130
02:59:58.079 --> 03:00:05.840
suspects. In nineteen fifty three they
were. Yet, though the Church of

2131
03:00:05.920 --> 03:00:09.559
Scientology has worked hard to gloss over
it's occult roots, its founder's own son,

2132
03:00:09.639 --> 03:00:15.559
Elron Hubert Junior, has been quoted
as saying Hitler was involved in the

2133
03:00:15.559 --> 03:00:20.319
same black magic and the same occult
practices that my father was, the identical

2134
03:00:20.360 --> 03:00:26.280
ones. My father thought of himself
as the Beast six sixty six incarnate.

2135
03:00:26.360 --> 03:00:33.280
When Crowley died in nineteen forty seven. My father then decided that he ships

2136
03:00:35.479 --> 03:00:46.639
they would go. Where'd he go? Uh decided that he Okay, okay,

2137
03:00:48.399 --> 03:00:50.479
that's it. That's the end of
it. That was it. I

2138
03:00:50.559 --> 03:00:54.040
was just elevating, there's this fucking
space there. Well, should wear the

2139
03:00:54.479 --> 03:00:58.600
should wear the cloak of the beast. There seems to have been a lot

2140
03:00:58.639 --> 03:01:05.079
of that going on around Elron Hubbard
Junior, let see around period. Elon

2141
03:01:05.159 --> 03:01:09.879
Hubbard Junior has also said that the
one super secret sentence that Scientology is built

2142
03:01:09.879 --> 03:01:13.520
on is do it what thou he
says, do as thou wilt, Do

2143
03:01:13.600 --> 03:01:18.200
what thou wilt shall be the whole
of jay Z's Law. In the early

2144
03:01:18.280 --> 03:01:22.879
nineteen sixties, two ranking members of
the Church of Scientology, Robert Moore and

2145
03:01:22.920 --> 03:01:30.360
Mary Anne MacLean, better known as
the the Grimston's, split off from London's

2146
03:01:30.440 --> 03:01:33.719
Hubbard Institute to form the Processed Church
of the Final Judgment, a group whose

2147
03:01:33.719 --> 03:01:39.879
official logo is a modified spotsika and
or maybe an anti Karna right, and

2148
03:01:39.959 --> 03:01:50.959
whose literature included glowing tributes to Nazism, Satan, Satan Gore, and a

2149
03:01:50.000 --> 03:01:56.760
big red dot. The group's bookstore
reportedly stock titles on topics such as Hitler.

2150
03:01:56.399 --> 03:02:00.920
That's a topic because like people used
to make fun of the History Channel

2151
03:02:00.920 --> 03:02:03.120
because all they used to ever do
is talk about Hitler. So we just

2152
03:02:03.200 --> 03:02:09.360
dubbed it the Hitler Channel as Hitler, organized crime, hypnosis, brainwashing,

2153
03:02:09.399 --> 03:02:16.840
and the occult. More a former
cavalry officer and the grandson of a British

2154
03:02:16.000 --> 03:02:26.040
vicar, and McLean, a one
time prostitute who was connected to the Profumo

2155
03:02:26.200 --> 03:02:31.840
scandal and who was reportedly and who
reportedly Lee believes that she is the reincarnation

2156
03:02:31.920 --> 03:02:35.000
of Nazi propagandist Joseph Gerbels. Well, at least they're not stupid or crazy.

2157
03:02:37.760 --> 03:02:43.000
First left London with their followers,
got a early nineteen sixties, two

2158
03:02:43.040 --> 03:02:48.920
high ranking members just after the summer
solstice of nineteen sixty six, arriving first

2159
03:02:48.959 --> 03:02:54.520
in NASA and then in Stole pronounce
the right, Stole, Mexico. They

2160
03:02:54.520 --> 03:02:58.520
were soon back in London. And
the story goes in a circle, apparently

2161
03:02:58.520 --> 03:03:07.040
because we just started to talking about
that at the very beginning. Did I

2162
03:03:07.079 --> 03:03:11.040
get too far ahead? I happened? I barely even click the damn thing.

2163
03:03:11.600 --> 03:03:16.399
Well, I'm just losing this,
but we aren't. Yeah, Okay,

2164
03:03:16.639 --> 03:03:20.879
By nineteen sixty seven, they had
arrived in the States, first setting

2165
03:03:20.959 --> 03:03:24.360
up a shop in New Orleans,
French Quarter, where the organization was formerly

2166
03:03:24.399 --> 03:03:30.639
incorporated, with the assistance of a
former lawyer of the Catholic Church. Not

2167
03:03:30.719 --> 03:03:35.920
surprising me at all, with the
whole Catholic Church slash Jesuit slash Catholicism in

2168
03:03:35.959 --> 03:03:41.600
the Roman Empire, handed anything and
child trafficking and all that stuff, not

2169
03:03:41.719 --> 03:03:46.959
at all at all surprise, waiting
for it. Actually, In March nineteen

2170
03:03:46.000 --> 03:03:52.520
sixty eight, the group moved their
base of operations to San Francisco. They

2171
03:03:52.520 --> 03:04:01.319
were the original San Francisco treat then
it became Sodomy, you know, taking

2172
03:04:01.399 --> 03:04:07.040
up residents not far from the Vay's
Church of Satan and various other occult groups,

2173
03:04:07.120 --> 03:04:11.120
including a branch of the Oto.
Recruiters for the group had been in

2174
03:04:11.239 --> 03:04:20.040
the Bay Area since nineteen sixty seven, since the nineteen sixty seven Summer of

2175
03:04:20.079 --> 03:04:26.479
Love, signing on such members as
Brother Eli, a member of Come On

2176
03:04:26.600 --> 03:04:33.840
It's a member of What Talk to
Me Goose Oh too Far, that it

2177
03:04:33.879 --> 03:04:39.840
was a bitch too far instead of
bridge too Far. Brother Eli, a

2178
03:04:39.959 --> 03:04:46.440
member of the Gypsy Jokers biker gang
whose home Processed Church temple was located just

2179
03:04:46.479 --> 03:04:50.479
two blocks away from the home of
the Manson family. From its inception,

2180
03:04:50.840 --> 03:04:56.680
the Process made no effort to hide
its infatuation with death destruction and cultural terrorism.

2181
03:04:56.959 --> 03:05:03.520
In the essay, Jehovah on war
or More commanded his followers, thou

2182
03:05:03.639 --> 03:05:07.360
shalt kill. I wish some people
would get us rattled up like that.

2183
03:05:07.399 --> 03:05:13.440
It's about goddamn time we did something
another essay that I don't mean just randomly.

2184
03:05:13.760 --> 03:05:16.000
I mean like the people that are
pressing and killing and raping your children

2185
03:05:16.000 --> 03:05:20.479
and all that stuff that's you know, focus it on the problem and then

2186
03:05:20.600 --> 03:05:24.399
it's not such a bad thing.
Righteous destruction of evil, never bad,

2187
03:05:24.920 --> 03:05:31.200
never bad. I won't send you
the hell, I promise. Another essay

2188
03:05:31.280 --> 03:05:37.000
that appeared in the official Process publication, and now I gotta continue to wait.

2189
03:05:39.360 --> 03:05:48.680
Came on, bro, I feel
like did I publication urged readers to

2190
03:05:48.840 --> 03:05:54.000
experience the pleasures of grief robbing.
I never had the pleasures of grave robbing

2191
03:05:54.040 --> 03:05:58.959
myself. Usually there are already been
ransacked. There's nothing there for you anyway.

2192
03:06:00.079 --> 03:06:03.520
It's very very disappointing. And necrophilia, well that's kind of I mean,

2193
03:06:03.559 --> 03:06:07.280
fresh dead bodies or like you were
talking skeletons, or you just got

2194
03:06:07.319 --> 03:06:11.680
to pretend they're doing something like I
don't get it. They didn't say necromancy,

2195
03:06:11.920 --> 03:06:15.559
which is just talking to them.
No, they said necrophilia right there

2196
03:06:16.360 --> 03:06:20.639
and ran in. The Death Issue
was penned by a recent transplant to the

2197
03:06:20.680 --> 03:06:24.879
Bay Area by the name of Charles
Manson, who thought all this stuff was

2198
03:06:24.920 --> 03:06:28.680
just wonderful, good time and fun
on a Saturday afternoon. Also, by

2199
03:06:28.719 --> 03:06:33.079
nineteen sixty seven, the process had
already spawned at least one spinoff. Man,

2200
03:06:33.120 --> 03:06:37.559
the sequels are never as good.
It's God, it's like, what

2201
03:06:37.680 --> 03:06:43.200
the hell is that? Jony and
Chachi? The fuck? They had a

2202
03:06:43.280 --> 03:06:48.479
Joni and Chachi by nineteen sixty seven. Jesus christ I wondered why they went

2203
03:06:48.520 --> 03:06:58.360
down, Probably from the group's inner
circle, reportedly known as the Yomiga.

2204
03:06:58.920 --> 03:07:07.159
The spinoff has not been very well
received by Nick at Night. Uh,

2205
03:07:07.200 --> 03:07:13.000
that's that's just my shit. Just
a giant footnote, seven page footnote to

2206
03:07:13.079 --> 03:07:16.680
follow you going, man, Come
on, I'm clicking the button. There

2207
03:07:16.719 --> 03:07:22.520
you go. Been variously referred to
as the four P Movement, which We're

2208
03:07:22.520 --> 03:07:28.000
gonna talk or pie We're going to
be listening to what we'll be talking to,

2209
03:07:28.840 --> 03:07:31.120
and remind me to put up the
freaking marker. I gotta I have

2210
03:07:31.200 --> 03:07:35.760
to put the place place card up
for that. But we're going to be

2211
03:07:35.799 --> 03:07:41.280
talking to Todd Wood tomorrow and you
should be excited, goddamn it. And

2212
03:07:41.280 --> 03:07:46.200
if you want to look at the
Walter Bosley channel on YouTube, or just

2213
03:07:46.200 --> 03:07:52.639
look for Todd Wood on William Ramsey
Investigates and just take a couple of those

2214
03:07:52.000 --> 03:07:56.280
episodes in it's it's good talks,
Good talks had by all and he's going

2215
03:07:56.319 --> 03:08:03.120
to be here tomorrow five pm my
time. Or the Ching Gong Ching Goong

2216
03:08:03.239 --> 03:08:07.680
is what they call the leader,
so I don't know if that's actually right

2217
03:08:07.719 --> 03:08:11.600
how they looked that up or the
Ching Gun Cult. The group's logo is

2218
03:08:11.639 --> 03:08:16.120
a stylized well is it really?
Is it really a swastika? Or is

2219
03:08:16.159 --> 03:08:20.959
it a bunch of peas with the
tail stick coming out? Four of them?

2220
03:08:22.280 --> 03:08:26.120
Right? And that's it's like it's
a wheel. It could be considered

2221
03:08:26.159 --> 03:08:28.559
like a sun wheel, I guess, but not really. It's more of

2222
03:08:28.879 --> 03:08:33.600
a bunch of peas, just like
the sixes on a freaking what do you

2223
03:08:33.680 --> 03:08:37.680
call it? The CERN logo,
it's just not feathered the same way,

2224
03:08:37.920 --> 03:08:43.000
more of a blocky way. Right. Its members are said to share a

2225
03:08:43.040 --> 03:08:46.520
fascination with Nazi racist doctrines. Well, first of all, that means that

2226
03:08:46.559 --> 03:08:52.360
you don't know goddamn history. Yeah, yeah, because that's the bullshit narrative

2227
03:08:52.520 --> 03:08:56.440
line that you are fed all your
life and believe. Meanwhile, the Bolshevik

2228
03:08:56.479 --> 03:09:03.719
Jews were out murdering multitudes, exponentially
more of innocent people, including mostly going

2229
03:09:03.760 --> 03:09:11.159
after Christians, sure is held and
take down their synagogues. But Germany bad.

2230
03:09:11.600 --> 03:09:15.520
Yeah, okay, so recorrect your
brain before you tell me that shit.

2231
03:09:15.520 --> 03:09:20.239
In the fucking book, author Michael
Newton has written, if law enforcement

2232
03:09:20.360 --> 03:09:26.879
spokesmen are correct, the cult is
also deeply involved in white slavery. Oh

2233
03:09:26.959 --> 03:09:33.719
so they're British because that's who's also
involved in white slavery, child pornography and

2234
03:09:33.799 --> 03:09:37.440
the international narcotics trade. The first
branch, well, they're easier to catch

2235
03:09:37.479 --> 03:09:43.680
too, if you think about it. We're not nearly as athletic. The

2236
03:09:43.719 --> 03:09:48.319
first branch of the cult was organized
in northern California and is said to have

2237
03:09:48.440 --> 03:09:54.680
held its early gatherings in the Santa
Cruz Mountains adjacent to the Boiling cauldron of

2238
03:09:54.680 --> 03:10:00.520
satanic activity known as San Francisco.
Imagine that being the town. Like Moniker

2239
03:10:00.600 --> 03:10:03.239
like, Hey, where do you
live? I live next to the boiling

2240
03:10:03.239 --> 03:10:07.719
cauldron of satanic activity known as San
Francisco. Yeah no, no, it's

2241
03:10:07.760 --> 03:10:13.639
the rent's not cheap, it's actually
ridiculous. Can't touch a house for under

2242
03:10:13.680 --> 03:10:22.680
two millionaire? Yep oh shit.
From this primordial stew would arise in the

2243
03:10:24.280 --> 03:10:28.079
late sixties, the Manson Family.
They would arise from the boiling cauldron of

2244
03:10:28.120 --> 03:10:35.440
satanic activity. That's awfully dramatic.
Much of Manson's ideology was taken directly from

2245
03:10:35.479 --> 03:10:39.200
the teachings of the Processed Church and
the CIA. Oh sorry, it doesn't

2246
03:10:39.239 --> 03:10:41.440
say that, but I did,
with whom Charlie was closely connected, as

2247
03:10:41.479 --> 03:10:50.079
alluded to by Bugliosi in Helter Skelter
and greatly elaborated on by Ed Sanders in

2248
03:10:50.120 --> 03:10:52.719
The Family. It's cool that I
can read a sentence. It's only half

2249
03:10:52.760 --> 03:10:56.879
there, isn't it. It's called
skills, bro. I read on the

2250
03:10:56.879 --> 03:11:03.520
elliptical all the time and know how
to do this stuff. And Mary Terry

2251
03:11:03.520 --> 03:11:07.440
and the Ultimate Evil, that's the
name I was looking for, the for

2252
03:11:07.479 --> 03:11:11.399
the author I was running the Ultimate
Evil down in another name. Manson was

2253
03:11:11.479 --> 03:11:16.239
exposed to the Process as early as
spring of nineteen sixty seven at San Francisco's

2254
03:11:16.280 --> 03:11:20.840
infamous Devil House, and he later
claimed to have met the leader of the

2255
03:11:20.840 --> 03:11:26.959
Process at the Polanski home, which
he is known to have visited before the

2256
03:11:28.040 --> 03:11:33.879
killings, So they knew him and
he knew them. Manson was also linked

2257
03:11:33.920 --> 03:11:37.840
to the Church of Satan, so
they knew him and he knew them.

2258
03:11:37.559 --> 03:11:41.559
Did anybody ever talked to Levey about
that? Or I don't know. Back

2259
03:11:41.600 --> 03:11:46.399
then, I think Lipshits was still
a member before he broke off and had

2260
03:11:46.440 --> 03:11:52.879
his temper tampater. Do you guys
ever see a picture of Teller Swift?

2261
03:11:54.239 --> 03:11:56.479
You know where I'm going with this. You know where I'm going with this

2262
03:11:56.200 --> 03:12:03.600
next to Zena Shrek. I'm just
saying they're similar. I'm not saying this

2263
03:12:03.719 --> 03:12:09.520
is illegitimate repe child or ceremonial child. I'm not saying that. I'm just

2264
03:12:09.319 --> 03:12:15.959
I'm just saying it looks similar,
grown in the same cultured dish. I

2265
03:12:15.959 --> 03:12:24.840
don't know, uh they San Francisco
is okay. Manson was exposed to Process

2266
03:12:24.959 --> 03:12:28.559
church as early as the spring of
nineteen sixty seven at San Francisco's infamous Devil

2267
03:12:28.600 --> 03:12:33.360
House. It's like, not Maxwell
House, even though that's actually kind of

2268
03:12:33.360 --> 03:12:37.799
sucked six too. That would have
been a great sitcom Maxwell House, but

2269
03:12:37.840 --> 03:12:41.159
it's like Giselain Maxwell and Robert Maxwell, but it has nothing to do with

2270
03:12:41.200 --> 03:12:46.680
coffee, and everybody gets disappointed.
That would be good. And he later

2271
03:12:46.719 --> 03:12:50.879
claimed to have met the leaders of
the process at the Pulanski home, which

2272
03:12:50.879 --> 03:12:54.399
he is known to have Okay,
I already said all that, but the

2273
03:12:54.440 --> 03:12:56.760
hell you let me do that again? For Manson was also linked to the

2274
03:12:56.840 --> 03:13:01.360
church. I did that too,
the Solar Lodge of the Oto, which

2275
03:13:01.399 --> 03:13:05.639
is the Solar Lodge. Is you
did just glossic over that? That's that's

2276
03:13:05.639 --> 03:13:09.239
a fuck up place there, okay, which operated from a ranch near life

2277
03:13:09.719 --> 03:13:16.680
and a cult owner how and a
cult owner I'm sorry because I can't read,

2278
03:13:16.959 --> 03:13:22.040
and a cult owned house near the
University of Southern California campus. Now

2279
03:13:22.040 --> 03:13:28.120
I gotta wait again. Uh,
let's got the block up there on that

2280
03:13:33.200 --> 03:13:37.280
the Church of Scientology. Charlie declared
himself to be a Theta clear after one

2281
03:13:37.319 --> 03:13:41.639
hundred and fifty hours of auditing while
in prison. So this is kind of

2282
03:13:41.680 --> 03:13:48.520
a recap, a particularly bizarre group
known as the ku K Order of the

2283
03:13:48.639 --> 03:13:54.559
Dog Blood, and a number of
occult oriented biker gangs, including the Street

2284
03:13:54.799 --> 03:13:58.840
Satans who once attended a ku Klux
Klan rally in the sun Stand, Fernaldva

2285
03:14:00.879 --> 03:14:05.399
San Fernando Valley and Satan Slaves,
the Gypsy Jokers, the Jokers something or

2286
03:14:05.440 --> 03:14:11.440
other on behind the ball here uh, and the Coffin Makers. Terry's evidence

2287
03:14:11.440 --> 03:14:18.239
indicates that the family was itself a
Setenant cult, specifically a faction of the

2288
03:14:18.360 --> 03:14:26.000
process spawned Four Pie or four Pea
cult and a sister group to both the

2289
03:14:26.040 --> 03:14:31.000
New York chapter said to it said
to be responsible for the Son of Sam

2290
03:14:31.040 --> 03:14:35.319
slayings, and the Santa Anda sorry
Santa Cruz, San Francisco faction that may

2291
03:14:35.360 --> 03:14:41.360
have been responsible for the Zodiac murders. The Manson family and when you think

2292
03:14:41.360 --> 03:14:45.600
of all this crap cult, sure, but where's the where's the Masonic quater

2293
03:14:45.680 --> 03:14:50.000
behind it? Because I bet you
there's a link there too. The Manson

2294
03:14:50.040 --> 03:15:03.280
family, appropriately enough, was also
deeply involved in drug sniffing dog no what

2295
03:15:03.360 --> 03:15:11.840
this is in drug trafficking, just
as Henry Lee Lucas claimed to claimed his

2296
03:15:11.920 --> 03:15:16.399
cult to be. It is not
likely a coincidence that Henry's partner, Oist

2297
03:15:16.440 --> 03:15:30.200
Tool, was known to have paid
visits to the to the America, New

2298
03:15:30.360 --> 03:15:33.799
Orleans headquarters of the Processed Church.
With all that in mind, we now

2299
03:15:33.920 --> 03:15:39.639
turned about oh Man, New Orleans, lots of jazz. They need cocaine

2300
03:15:39.719 --> 03:15:45.280
otherwise it just becomes like casual music
again, right, you have to have

2301
03:15:45.319 --> 03:15:48.600
the cocaine to make it go fast. With all that in mind, we

2302
03:15:48.719 --> 03:15:54.200
now turn our attention to the San
Francisco Santa Cruz area and the explosion of

2303
03:15:54.360 --> 03:16:01.280
violent murders that belched forth from the
cold dur in the beginning in the late

2304
03:16:01.319 --> 03:16:03.200
sixties. And I'm gonna guess that's
where he cuts it off for the night.

2305
03:16:05.200 --> 03:16:07.799
Yes, so, yeah, I
was right. I knew it was

2306
03:16:07.879 --> 03:16:13.959
right. It has been way too
long. But I want to play a

2307
03:16:13.959 --> 03:16:18.559
little bit of this and we'll get
back. Sina was also hold on.

2308
03:16:20.040 --> 03:16:35.920
Sino is also the first baptized in
the Judd saying, yeah, Swift is

2309
03:16:35.959 --> 03:16:41.280
actually she's she's not attractive. She's
not attractive at all, not gonna lie

2310
03:16:41.319 --> 03:16:48.600
about that. I don't think she's
not attractive at all. It seems like

2311
03:16:48.639 --> 03:16:52.840
she's gotten uglier more rapidly, like
maybe that maybe the double that they have

2312
03:16:52.920 --> 03:16:56.680
in there for her now is not
a female? Which one we were looking

2313
03:16:56.719 --> 03:17:00.719
at? I gotta look up here. I think it's this one author David

2314
03:17:00.760 --> 03:17:03.959
living Yeah, let's play that one. I think. Yeah, let's play

2315
03:17:03.959 --> 03:17:07.600
a little bit off their David Livingstone. This is a William Ramsey investigates.

2316
03:17:07.639 --> 03:17:11.239
So you're gonna love it anyway.
I'm not sure how long I've been actually

2317
03:17:11.319 --> 03:17:16.479
recording, because my clock on Streamyard
lies to me and it like it'll start

2318
03:17:16.479 --> 03:17:20.559
playing at zero again, like thirty
minutes into it, so at four hours

2319
03:17:22.520 --> 03:17:26.600
they cut me off at at rumble, so it'll like, yeah, we're

2320
03:17:26.639 --> 03:17:31.319
only going to process four hours of
your video, so because you don't pay

2321
03:17:31.399 --> 03:17:35.200
us a monthly tithing, so whatever, let's play a little bit of this.

2322
03:17:35.879 --> 03:17:37.879
I don't know I even waste my
time telling you that far, but

2323
03:17:37.920 --> 03:17:41.879
let's do this and then I'll be
back. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

2324
03:17:43.399 --> 03:17:46.159
play the full length of this,
just a little bit to give you a

2325
03:17:46.159 --> 03:17:50.920
flavor of my man, my boy
here. Actually both of them. I

2326
03:17:50.920 --> 03:18:01.079
love David Livingstone's work, and I
enjoy having my conversations with William Ramsey published

2327
03:18:01.159 --> 03:18:05.360
June twenty thirteen, Transhumanism very timely
topic, Transhumanism The History of a Dangerous

2328
03:18:05.399 --> 03:18:11.200
Idea twenty fifteen and Terrorism in the
Illuminati of three thousand year History. And

2329
03:18:11.239 --> 03:18:13.959
I've read through that book. I
was published in twenty seventeen. So,

2330
03:18:15.120 --> 03:18:18.600
mister Livingston, are you there,
I'm here. It's Stone or Stone living

2331
03:18:18.639 --> 03:18:24.360
Stone, right, I think it's
done. Yeah, Okay. For people

2332
03:18:24.399 --> 03:18:26.680
who haven't heard your name or may
not be familiar with working you talk a

2333
03:18:26.680 --> 03:18:31.159
little bit about but about your background
of what led you to this as you've

2334
03:18:31.200 --> 03:18:39.760
published online care Yeah, it's it's
now thirty years of study. So this

2335
03:18:39.840 --> 03:18:48.639
is why my you know, the
my recent book is really is is uh,

2336
03:18:48.879 --> 03:18:58.840
it's very much the result of all
crucial to understanding the bigger picture orchestrate

2337
03:18:58.200 --> 03:19:03.840
most of the recent events, so
to understand what they've done, why they've

2338
03:19:03.879 --> 03:19:07.040
done it, and ideally, if
we can try to understand what they're trying

2339
03:19:07.079 --> 03:19:11.000
to do, then the only way
to do that is to explore the history

2340
03:19:11.040 --> 03:19:16.680
of the culture. It's not an
easy task because it's not available in mainstream

2341
03:19:18.040 --> 03:19:22.319
history books. It is touched on
by a number of occult books, but

2342
03:19:22.360 --> 03:19:28.559
those books are grossly unreliable because they
tend to be have to do mostly with

2343
03:19:28.680 --> 03:19:33.799
legends. The thing is that with
every legendre's a there's a piece of truth

2344
03:19:33.840 --> 03:19:39.280
to it. So it's been a
matter of trying to sift through all these

2345
03:19:39.280 --> 03:19:41.840
occult legends and try to get to
the root of what the true history was,

2346
03:19:43.079 --> 03:19:46.360
because it is it is at least
I mean, it's a very ancient

2347
03:19:46.399 --> 03:19:50.760
history. It's at least a three
thousand year history, and one that is

2348
03:19:52.079 --> 03:19:56.319
I mean, particularly for what we
know as Western history, is basically a

2349
03:19:56.360 --> 03:20:01.479
whitewashed version of occult history or for
the masses, right, I mean it's

2350
03:20:01.479 --> 03:20:05.200
fascinating. Yeah. So you actually
start this new book all the way back

2351
03:20:05.399 --> 03:20:11.559
to called Ian Maguie ancient Greece,
so you're definitely starting right from the time

2352
03:20:11.600 --> 03:20:18.639
of recorded history. Yes, sorry, I was just going to say that's

2353
03:20:18.639 --> 03:20:22.680
what the Masons do, ohto you
know, you have a section on Crowley,

2354
03:20:22.360 --> 03:20:28.719
an excellent section on Cryer Albert Pike, so, uh, they're looking

2355
03:20:28.719 --> 03:20:33.200
at it in this kind of great
swath of history. So I think it's

2356
03:20:33.239 --> 03:20:37.719
important for you to uncover all that
stuff and show what these guys are thinking

2357
03:20:37.760 --> 03:20:41.040
of the people who orchestrated nine to
eleven, things like that, stuff that's

2358
03:20:41.079 --> 03:20:46.399
going on with COVID, great reset
schwad. So where would you like to

2359
03:20:46.440 --> 03:20:50.159
cover We talked a little bit of
a pre interview, but you have anything

2360
03:20:50.239 --> 03:20:54.879
that from the book that might be
timing, Yeah, I'd like I'd like

2361
03:20:54.920 --> 03:21:01.879
to talk about what I just posted
today because it really ties in to some

2362
03:21:01.959 --> 03:21:05.799
of the most important that's not the
most important finding in my recent book.

2363
03:21:07.600 --> 03:21:15.680
So basically, what's happening on the
twenty first of December is what's called the

2364
03:21:15.760 --> 03:21:24.680
Great Conjunction, and that's basically when
the planets of Jupiter and Saturn lineup and

2365
03:21:24.600 --> 03:21:31.000
basically are on top of each other. So this is an event that happens

2366
03:21:31.000 --> 03:21:41.399
every twenty years. It's the most
important event in occult astrology. So what's

2367
03:21:41.440 --> 03:21:46.079
interesting is that, so first of
all astrologers, I mean, it's it's

2368
03:21:46.120 --> 03:21:48.680
being published in the mainstream news,
but I don't think a lot of people

2369
03:21:48.680 --> 03:21:52.360
are catching on to the significance of
it. But astrologers are referring to it

2370
03:21:52.399 --> 03:21:58.719
as Christmas Star. So what's particularly
interesting about this particular conjunction is that it

2371
03:21:58.799 --> 03:22:05.239
lines up exactly with the winter solstice. So of course there's four Luciferian holidays

2372
03:22:05.360 --> 03:22:09.879
a year, and that lines up
with the two solstices and two equinoxes,

2373
03:22:11.559 --> 03:22:16.399
and so those are Christmas, Easter, Saint John's Day, and Halloween.

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03:22:18.840 --> 03:22:28.399
So I read an article today that
pointed out that although this happens every twenty

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03:22:28.520 --> 03:22:35.040
years, the particular, this particular
the closeness of this particular alignment hasn't happened

2376
03:22:35.200 --> 03:22:39.959
since sixteen twenty three. So this
is pretty shocking because one of the most

2377
03:22:39.959 --> 03:22:43.680
important pointings that I've done my in
in my late that I that I share

2378
03:22:43.680 --> 03:22:48.399
in my latest book is because I've
studied the Rosicutians for a while and the

2379
03:22:48.520 --> 03:22:52.959
Rosicrusians are essential to this entire story, right, I mean, basically,

2380
03:22:52.319 --> 03:22:56.680
you've got several stages in the envelopment
of a cult tradition, and for at

2381
03:22:56.760 --> 03:23:03.520
least Western history, it starts with
the Templars and then basically re emerges as

2382
03:23:03.559 --> 03:23:07.959
the Rosicrusions. The rose Crusions result
in the Freemasons and finally Illuminati. So

2383
03:23:09.000 --> 03:23:16.680
the advent of the Rosicrusions in particular
is really represents the modern birth of the

2384
03:23:16.719 --> 03:23:22.000
most influential cult tradition. So you
know, if you look at their own

2385
03:23:22.040 --> 03:23:31.840
literature. What happens is that the
advent of the Rosicrusions was deliberately timed with

2386
03:23:31.559 --> 03:23:37.639
the Great Conjunction of their time,
which was supposed to happen in sixteen twenty

2387
03:23:37.639 --> 03:23:45.200
three. So the Rosicrucian movement actually
emerged a few years before that when the

2388
03:23:45.200 --> 03:23:50.760
first manifestos were published, but it's
when the movement was announced to the world

2389
03:23:50.799 --> 03:23:56.239
that happened in sixteen twenty three.
So also what I show in my book,

2390
03:23:56.239 --> 03:24:00.680
this again is all part of my
latest findings. In fact, this

2391
03:24:00.719 --> 03:24:01.959
is what I've treated before, but
I've gone into more depth this time.

2392
03:24:03.040 --> 03:24:11.479
So what's unique is that I've seen
no other scholars identify is that right after

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03:24:11.520 --> 03:24:18.440
this period. So first of all, the Rosicrucians they supposedly get defeated.

2394
03:24:18.639 --> 03:24:22.920
When when, Because what happens is
they offer. So the rose Cristian movement

2395
03:24:22.959 --> 03:24:28.959
is based on the marriage of Frederick
five of Frederick the fifth of the Palatinate

2396
03:24:30.239 --> 03:24:33.520
to Elizabeth Stewart, who was the
daughter of King James. So this is

2397
03:24:33.719 --> 03:24:41.040
this is written about in a book
by Valentin Andrea called The Chemical Wedding,

2398
03:24:41.079 --> 03:24:45.040
which means al chemical wedding. So
this wedding is particularly significance, and I

2399
03:24:45.040 --> 03:24:50.479
explained where where that goes in a
minute before like spring becomes before. Okay.

2400
03:24:50.959 --> 03:24:58.040
So basically the rosicrusion movement is defeated, but it survives in a in

2401
03:24:58.079 --> 03:25:03.639
a group called the art Lips Circle
the collor heartlet circle because it's a circle

2402
03:25:03.760 --> 03:25:09.200
around person particularly several three at least
three people in particular. But the leader

2403
03:25:09.239 --> 03:25:15.079
of it is a guy named Samuel
Hartlepp. And then history partners were John

2404
03:25:15.280 --> 03:25:22.760
Durry and John Comeniz. So they
formed what's called the Invisible College. And

2405
03:25:22.799 --> 03:25:28.120
that's well known that, uh,
the Royal Society came out derived out of

2406
03:25:28.159 --> 03:25:33.000
the out of the Invisible College,
and then Freemasonry came out of the Royal

2407
03:25:33.040 --> 03:25:41.360
Society. So the Heartlip Circle basically
were rosicrusions and they were intimately involved with

2408
03:25:41.799 --> 03:25:46.959
Manasse Ben Israel. So Manasa been
in Rooseralt is a very important rabbi of

2409
03:25:46.000 --> 03:25:50.760
Amsterdam. Amsterdam at the time was
basically, you know, the center of

2410
03:25:50.879 --> 03:25:56.479
European Jews because before that they had
been kicked out of Spain and one of

2411
03:25:56.479 --> 03:26:03.440
the places where they found refuge was
in Amsterdam. Because they were largely able

2412
03:26:03.479 --> 03:26:07.559
to follow their own religion they didn't
have to remain conversos as they did.

2413
03:26:07.719 --> 03:26:09.159
Thanks for that chapter, because that's
the fire he tried on. Right,

2414
03:26:09.159 --> 03:26:15.799
there's so Manassa been Israel. This
is basically what it was found, is

2415
03:26:15.799 --> 03:26:22.719
that he paid Oliver Cromwell to overthrow
Charles the First, who happens to be

2416
03:26:22.760 --> 03:26:28.440
the brother of Elizabeth Stewart who married
Frederick the fifth. They were the children

2417
03:26:28.600 --> 03:26:35.799
of James, King James. So
the result of that is that in exchange,

2418
03:26:37.280 --> 03:26:45.840
Cromwell repealed the law, or helped
to repeal the law that barred Jews

2419
03:26:45.840 --> 03:26:48.959
from entering England because the Jews that
have been expelled from England since the year

2420
03:26:50.079 --> 03:26:56.399
twelve ninety. So Manassa Been Israel
becomes the leader of this circle of all

2421
03:26:56.440 --> 03:27:03.799
these rosicrusions, and they begin to
start fanning expectations about the significance of the

2422
03:27:03.879 --> 03:27:09.319
year sixteen sixty six, which they
believe, based on their interpretations the Book

2423
03:27:09.319 --> 03:27:15.120
of Revelation will represent the advent of
the Messiah. So, of course what

2424
03:27:15.319 --> 03:27:18.319
happens is that in that year,
that's the year that Chaptaiza V declares himself

2425
03:27:18.360 --> 03:27:28.479
Massiah, and his immediate influence happens
all around these people who are these millenarians

2426
03:27:28.520 --> 03:27:33.520
associated with the heart Lip Circle,
particularly a guy named Peter Serarius. Peter

2427
03:27:33.639 --> 03:27:37.600
Serarius is his master in Israel's main
partner, and he's the one who keeps

2428
03:27:37.680 --> 03:27:48.719
most of these guys abreast of the
events of Shaptaizavi's mission, and particularly people

2429
03:27:48.760 --> 03:27:54.239
like John Durrett and most important a
guy named what was his first name,

2430
03:27:54.360 --> 03:27:58.319
Oldenburg this his last name, who
is one of the founders of the Royal

2431
03:27:58.360 --> 03:28:03.239
Society. Look at the Royal Society
is basically mostly composed of people who are

2432
03:28:03.280 --> 03:28:07.559
associated with the Heart Lip Circle,
so call it Visible College, and associated

2433
03:28:09.120 --> 03:28:13.079
directly and in directly with Manassa be
in Israel. So what I found,

2434
03:28:13.280 --> 03:28:20.440
this is my most recent findings,
is that Manassa Been Israel's followers. The

2435
03:28:20.479 --> 03:28:26.879
first thing they do in London is
they create the Best Marks Synagogue, and

2436
03:28:26.920 --> 03:28:35.520
I talk about this in my chapter
on the Freemasons. And so Best Mark

2437
03:28:35.600 --> 03:28:41.600
Synagogue then has four sister congregations in
the United States, and I talk about

2438
03:28:41.600 --> 03:28:46.319
that in my chapter on the American
Revolution. So they are the four synagogues

2439
03:28:46.360 --> 03:28:52.719
are Sheirith Israel in London, the
Turo Synagogue in Newport, the McVay Israel

2440
03:28:52.799 --> 03:28:56.159
synagogue in Philadelphia. The reason why
it's called Mick for Israel is because Manassa

2441
03:28:56.159 --> 03:29:01.319
be in Israel wrote a book about
the last I was supposedly living in North

2442
03:29:01.319 --> 03:29:07.559
America, which he called Lost the
Last, the Last Hope, the Last

2443
03:29:07.559 --> 03:29:11.520
Hope, which translates as McVay Israel
I hope. I got that title correctly,

2444
03:29:11.559 --> 03:29:15.959
please where I was looking at up
You'll have to verify that. But

2445
03:29:16.040 --> 03:29:22.079
the Prebrew title is mcveay Israel.
So these are the congregations that are involved

2446
03:29:22.079 --> 03:29:26.879
basically implementing the American Revolution, particularly
guy named Hain Solomon who is a rock

2447
03:29:26.959 --> 03:29:35.799
Child agent. And it's it's this
network of Mason's associated with these four synagogues,

2448
03:29:37.319 --> 03:29:41.159
particularly Beth Elaheim and Charleston who found
Scottish Rake Free Masonry. And I

2449
03:29:41.200 --> 03:29:46.879
believe the year eighteen oh one.
So the backtrack a bit. This entire

2450
03:29:46.959 --> 03:29:54.600
network is based on the descendants of
the alchemical wedding of Frederick the Fifth and

2451
03:29:54.639 --> 03:29:58.319
Elizabeth Stewart, so all their descendants
become the key actors in the development of

2452
03:29:58.399 --> 03:30:09.360
Fremason, tied of course with the
Invisible College. So primarily so because what

2453
03:30:09.440 --> 03:30:15.319
happens is that I think it's Charles
the Second, who succeeded by James the

2454
03:30:15.399 --> 03:30:20.719
Second, and James the Second is
overthrown by William of Orange or William of

2455
03:30:20.760 --> 03:30:28.360
Orange happens also to be a descendant
of the Alchemical Wedding, but nevertheless James

2456
03:30:28.479 --> 03:30:33.399
is the Stewart families. So what
happens is you get the Jacobite movement that

2457
03:30:33.440 --> 03:30:39.719
are committed to the restoration of the
Stuart dynasty and the Jacobite movement, then

2458
03:30:39.920 --> 03:30:48.520
basically you're at war with the Brits
who because of their rejection of James the

2459
03:30:48.559 --> 03:30:52.360
Second and they flee to to France. So it's there in France that they

2460
03:30:52.399 --> 03:31:01.040
begin the founding of what's called Gousea
free masonry or Scottish masonry. So this

2461
03:31:01.079 --> 03:31:05.280
all happens develops in France. So
the main people who are associated with are

2462
03:31:05.280 --> 03:31:11.079
all descendants of the Chemical Wedding.
So principally you have Frederick the Great King

2463
03:31:11.120 --> 03:31:20.079
of Prussia, the various Dukes of
Arleon, starting with Philip the second,

2464
03:31:20.000 --> 03:31:28.120
but the second of Arleon A It's
very interesting because he he married the daughter

2465
03:31:28.239 --> 03:31:33.719
is the daughter of a woman who
is involved in a notorious affair black She

2466
03:31:33.920 --> 03:31:39.600
was accused of practicing black magic rituals
involving human sacrifice called the Affair of the

2467
03:31:39.600 --> 03:31:43.920
Poisons. So basically, it's a
family of the orleon. Finally, in

2468
03:31:43.000 --> 03:31:56.479
particular where notoriously all right, we're
done. It's been a long night.

2469
03:31:58.799 --> 03:32:01.520
Just finally finished my stupid ice cream
cone that was dying for something to eat,

2470
03:32:03.280 --> 03:32:16.079
and we are good. Hope everybody
enjoyed it. Let's see, Yeah,

2471
03:32:16.360 --> 03:32:31.760
this is truth into that statementy there, let me see good call in

2472
03:32:31.799 --> 03:32:37.559
that one. Yes, it's not
the first time I've used that name either.

2473
03:32:37.680 --> 03:32:41.879
When you look into the history that
it's it's a recurring thing. It's

2474
03:32:41.920 --> 03:32:48.440
also again I'm not sure if he's
getting into the fabrication aspects of this in

2475
03:32:48.559 --> 03:32:52.120
his I noticed David was talking about
the rescreations, But I don't know if

2476
03:32:52.159 --> 03:33:01.399
you put place as much of a
do you importance on the fact that they

2477
03:33:01.399 --> 03:33:09.200
were straight up fabrications after a certain
point and just doing it and name it

2478
03:33:09.239 --> 03:33:13.120
only because the name got them clout. So you know, when you're a

2479
03:33:13.159 --> 03:33:18.079
mystery school, you want people to
be attracted to your mystical teachings that they

2480
03:33:18.120 --> 03:33:22.559
would go around calling and any any
which Yahoo collectively would find some people like

2481
03:33:22.959 --> 03:33:35.120
these rosicrusions or carrying out the legacy
anyway, So one other thing, and

2482
03:33:35.159 --> 03:33:37.600
then I got trying to get rid
of how they what do they do?

2483
03:33:39.680 --> 03:33:48.520
Where is it? Uh No,
I can't I find it? Okay,

2484
03:33:50.399 --> 03:33:54.079
And I saw you this because this
is how you get to see more of

2485
03:33:54.079 --> 03:33:58.079
these things. And if you don't, then you don't get to see one

2486
03:33:58.120 --> 03:34:05.319
of these things. I have to
go to other stuff. Priest Craft Beyond

2487
03:34:05.360 --> 03:34:11.000
Babylon, that Barnes and Noble four
hundred and sixteen page book or good as

2488
03:34:11.040 --> 03:34:18.399
a new book, or you can
get it on Amazon. This is in

2489
03:34:18.440 --> 03:34:26.000
the description. This is how well
when people use it, it's a means

2490
03:34:26.040 --> 03:34:31.120
of making the thing work, but
when it's not used, it doesn't.

2491
03:34:31.319 --> 03:34:35.479
So do it. There you go, or this be a recurring all these

2492
03:34:35.479 --> 03:34:39.319
wonderful things you can do, and
all these wonderful tiers and all these wonderful

2493
03:34:41.360 --> 03:34:45.040
uh perks, including getting in some
of these tiers. You get the electronic

2494
03:34:45.040 --> 03:34:50.360
book, or you get the hardcover
book, not hardcover book, tangible copy

2495
03:34:50.360 --> 03:34:58.799
book and free meaning no commercial free. There we go. That's the words.

2496
03:34:58.799 --> 03:35:05.399
It's late commercial free podcasts there too. And then I always just come

2497
03:35:05.440 --> 03:35:09.959
out and check out this website here
simper fright LLC. And now you don't

2498
03:35:09.959 --> 03:35:13.959
have to go searching around this podcast
provided that podcast botter whatever, just come

2499
03:35:13.000 --> 03:35:18.040
right here. Here's my schedule,
and then here's the podcast. I usually

2500
03:35:18.120 --> 03:35:26.680
upload them pretty dark soon after I
finish the actual live stream, so I

2501
03:35:26.680 --> 03:35:31.200
don't make any alterations. Unless I'm
swearing my head off about something and I

2502
03:35:31.280 --> 03:35:33.680
decide I don't want anybody else to
hear that, then I'll do something.

2503
03:35:33.719 --> 03:35:41.799
But there's a big gold member I
don't know. I don't know. I'm

2504
03:35:41.799 --> 03:35:43.079
pretty sure I don't know. I
don't know what they're trying to do with

2505
03:35:43.120 --> 03:35:48.920
that, but it just looks like
it just looks gay all over the place,

2506
03:35:48.920 --> 03:35:54.280
doesn't it all around? Like a
big Osyrus thing going on there.

2507
03:35:54.120 --> 03:35:56.639
He Yeah, I was gonna play
some of this, but it wasn't all

2508
03:35:56.680 --> 03:36:01.680
that interesting. So there's some credits. You guys want to read some credits

2509
03:36:01.680 --> 03:36:05.479
before we go. That's usually a
lot of fun. Sometimes I just go

2510
03:36:05.520 --> 03:36:07.920
to a movie so I can read
the credits. I have to wait a

2511
03:36:07.920 --> 03:36:13.440
long time. That was making me
wait till the end. Usually all right,

2512
03:36:13.319 --> 03:36:22.159
good night, Oh if you haven't
already, you know, if you'd

2513
03:36:22.200 --> 03:36:26.280
liked what you saw either there's a
button for that if you'd like to be

2514
03:36:26.360 --> 03:36:28.520
notified when I do, come on, there's a there's a button for that.

2515
03:36:28.520 --> 03:36:33.959
It usually says follow or subscribe.
I'm not sure. I think it's

2516
03:36:33.000 --> 03:36:37.959
follow on rumble, right, And
then there's a red button that says join,

2517
03:36:37.440 --> 03:36:41.920
And that's just because you're that selfless
that you want to help others.

2518
03:36:41.959 --> 03:36:46.200
It's also in the live chat there's
a button there that says subscribe, and

2519
03:36:46.600 --> 03:36:52.159
that that opens up a whole new
world, just like Aeriel. Right,

2520
03:36:52.719 --> 03:36:56.000
I think that's who it was.
Or no, that was God damn,

2521
03:36:56.000 --> 03:37:01.639
that was Aladdin. Right, I
don't even know heay appears. I don't

2522
03:37:01.680 --> 03:37:07.440
know. I don't know. One
of those two Disney propaganda movies. There

2523
03:37:07.479 --> 03:37:11.559
you go. That's what it's all. It's just like that Disney propaganda movie.

2524
03:37:11.760 --> 03:37:26.639
Alright, bye, I've already said
too much. M el spot Yeah,