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Welcome to Buns and Banter, a
podcast buy work Busties for work Busties.

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Hey, I'm Lauren and I'm Ali. We're both morning show hosts for iHeartMedia.

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We're both millennials, and we're both
trying to figure out how to build

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the lives we dream about, dating, marriage, career, career and being

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a mom. How to get through
a week without crying. Welcome to Buns

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and Banter. We're glad you're here. Okay, big deep breath, Not

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too big of a breath, because
I just breathed in. You caught me

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as soon as I was coming in
for the episode. Today, I've walked

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into and breathed in a spiderweb in
our studio, which is just so gross.

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And that's a studio that you use
every single day, and there's nothing

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worse than that to me, because
you it's like glue or something. It's

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like you can't get it all out
of you. And now I just have

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this really awful phobia that somehow the
spider got in me and it's just like

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laying it's like somewhere in my body, like those really terrifying cartoons you saw

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as a kid. I thought that
that was going to be way more of

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a thing as an adult. Right. Spiders laying eggs in or around specifically

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my ears, Yes, all the
crevasses, but the ears flipped me out.

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I still I will not sleep at
night if all my holes aren't covered.

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Oh, you don't seem naked ever. No, but like with a

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comforter, oh, like I have
to have and it has to be pulled

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up right at my ears, I
cannot. I just feel like there's always

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things trying to crawl into you or
get into you. Maybe that's a woman

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thing, you know. It was
that And when I was little, my

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mom used to yell at us when
we would like put hats on in the

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store. She'd be like, lice. Oh and still to this day.

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And I'm a hat girly. I
love a hat. Yes, I am

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trying on the hats at the store
before I buy them. I'm not buying

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this because what happened between now,
between the store and the home. What

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is magically going to clean this hat? I'm just gonna put it on my

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head, right, I suppose I
could lice all them. But yeah,

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that was a big thing for my
mom when we were kids. You don't

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put hats on at the store because
they could have lice. I love that.

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I just walking into a spider web
that devolved into our childhood phobius.

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I felt the same thing about watermelons. If you accidentally ate a seed,

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you'd grow on in your belly.
This story is really messed up. This

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is such a messed up story.
But this is my childhood. My dad,

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when I was little, told me
that if I ate the stems of

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broccoli, i'd grow boy parts work. Yeah, oh no, yeah,

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So for like as a child,
terrified, terrified, Oh my god,

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terrified. But yeah, I don't
I think like maybe he said it like

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once as a joke and it was
just one of those things that like,

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he probably doesn't remember, but you're
a sponge, but as a kid,

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yep, yeah, yes, Or
maybe he never told me that at all,

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and I dreamed the whole thing up. Where in the world you had

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to have heard that somewhere that your
subconscious wouldn't have just made that up.

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I don't know. Kids say wild
stuff though. Were you a bus rider?

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I heard the craziest stuff on the
bus. I was a short,

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short lived my bus rider experienced because
I used to fall asleep on the bus

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and that was fine at the end
of the day because my sister also rode

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the bus with me so she could
wake me up. But when my sister

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went to middle school and I was
still in elementary school, then it became

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a problem. There were more than
one occasions where the bus driver was like,

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on the way back to the bus
garage, like, holy shit,

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there's a kid in the back.
So then I started I started getting ride

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home. Oh my heard so speaking
of sponges, I think I need to

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start making this a bit in every
episode because my children just hear things and

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decide on the most inopportune times to
bring them up. Oh yes, I

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love it, and like I have
a five year old and a two year

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old. If you're not, I
have five year old son, tow year

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old daughter, and my son Will
is just such a chatterbox and lives for

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making new relationships. So the other
day, the lovely gentleman from DTE we're

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at our house, ah doing some
gas meter upgrades, and I was like,

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perfect, beautiful day. We'll go
outside with the kids, so they're

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like out of the way of you
know, whatever worth they need to get

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done. And Will has gotten very
into climbing trees and so we have this

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really great tree in our front yard, good climbing tree. For the first

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time he was able to climb up
at himself. So he like got the

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tree that you posted the picture of
that man is such a cute picture,

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by the way, go look at
it on Schmidy's social media. Schmidt in

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the mit, thank you it was. That was a good one. So

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he climbs on that tree, gets
this little spot and he's five rights.

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So he's like, this is the
tallest I've ever been in my whole life.

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And I was like, oh cool, dude, Like what can you

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see up there? He's like,
I can probably see downtown, like,

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you know, just so excited.
Then he waits for the DTE guys,

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complete strangers. It's not like we're
in there making conversation with them to leave

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our house. The guys like,
you guys are all set, thank you

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so much, and Will goes,
hey, you see me up of this

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tree, and they're very friendly and
they're like, oh yeah, buddy,

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you're so high up there. He
goes, I'm really tall. It's cool.

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You know, I've got My mom
would would probably sit up here and

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drink wine because we couldn't find her. Wow, would I climbing a tree

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lead to mom's drinking situations? Has
there been a situation drink wine in a

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tree but at a treehouse? Has
there been a situation where you've been drinking

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wine and hiding from them, because
that's what it sounds like. I yes,

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maybe on the regular, but I
do again. I looked at him

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and I'm like, buddy, that's
that's an inside the house conversation. And

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the DTE guys like, that's okay. I think we're gonna see a lot

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of families stay that like to drink
wine and trees because they're just like up

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and down the neighborhood doing their work. And I'm just every I could have

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one every single week for things that
my kids say, Oh will Love's point

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when I could be having water in
a water bottle, like back from a

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run, Not that I would ever, but could be, And I'll go,

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Mom, looks like wine. Yeah, that's not only due. That's

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I am a contributing member of society. It's just when you see me,

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I'm off the clock and I'm just
having a sip. And what you do

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off the clock is your own business. And I'm still a great parent.

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You are but I love that his
view of me is hiding in a tree

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with like my bottle of barefoot.
Yeah, we're making this a bit.

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It's gonna be shit the little schmidy
say, Oh my god, shit from

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the little Schmidt Yep, yes,
yeah, he's full of it. So

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that was a really lovely shout out
to Mark and Jordan from DTE. Got

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to meet them after the weird wine
comment, because then I felt like that

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was something I shouldn't let just lie
there. I was like, I'm not

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you don't need to call anyone.
I'm not gonna sit this tree and drink

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wine, have a great day.
Do you tell people that come to your

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house, like contractors or DTE men, like, do you tell them what

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you do? No? I don't
either, because it does it like ever

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come up. It's come up for
me a few times because they will specifically

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ask like, oh, so what
do you do for a living, And

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I can't. I can't tell at
that point if they're asking that, if

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they're like leading, trying to lead
because they already know, or if they're

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really just like curious, like do
they ask everybody? Right? Probably like

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to make small talk? I think, yeah, I've not been asked very

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often. I think they're weird and
more weird about that, like you're home

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during the day, because that's probably
not normal for the like appointments they have.

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Yeah, but what do you say? I always say work in marketing.

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I say I work in media.
Yeah I can't, or oh I

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worked downtown. That kind of like
just get really, I don't know,

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I don't know, and it's we're
probably really overthinking this, although we're not

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because we were talking about stalker stories
just a couple yeah days ago. Yeah,

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and there have been some some pretty
serious incidents that have happened with different

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media personnel in gren Rapids. But
I try to be as broad as possible

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and also on the dating apps too. It always freaks me out when people

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are like, what do you do
for a living? If you pointedly ask

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me what I do for a living, I'll say like, oh, I

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work in media, and then if
you keep pushing, I will tell you.

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And then the ones who get like
really excited about it, it's a

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red flag. Oh, I'm so
glad you brought this up, because you

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didn't even I came in here like
blaze and hot about this because I saw

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this article today and it thought it'd
be really interesting to talk about a dating

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expert has run down the top ten
red flags in a relationship. Oh yes,

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oh yes, I'm sure you're not
going to be any of these.

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Not You're not, I not us. I am one giant walking red flag

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any one of my ex boyfriends.
Okay, so this, oh, this

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is going to get controversial. So
this is relationship expert Jake Maddock, to

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be fair, grain assault because it
also says he's a self described dating expert.

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Okay, that was my next question. Why what makes him an expert?

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He's just been on a lot of
dates. Oh yeah, perfect,

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he's a backtrack bumble if you didn't
see last week's episode, Oh, I

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have an update on that. Okay, So we're gonna go through the flags

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and then see this is beautiful.
So he's revealed one of the biggest red

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flags. And I think this is
something a lot of couples talk about.

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Not wanting to have sex with your
partner is an immediate flag to leave the

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relationship. Well yeah, but that
that takes time to get to that point.

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I see, right, I don't
think and I and by that point

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I might not even know I would
notice what I notice I don't know this

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is gonna be so fantastic. Next
up, bad communication, Yes, total

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and complete red flag I and not
even in terms of like you undercommunicate or

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you overcommunicate, but sometimes your style
of communication, yes, is not jelling

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with your partner. I've been in
relationships where I'm a very communicative person and

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my partner is as well. But
the ways in which we communicate with each

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other. I've had a therapist actually
tell me and a partner like, you

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guys are living in two different worlds, Like you're communicating, but you might

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you might as well be. You
are speaking different languages when you communicate with

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each other. And that was so
frustrating, and the relationship obviously did not

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survive. Was it eye opening slightly
in a good way where You're like,

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I would never I would never have
thought of it like that. It was

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a huge relief because I do consider
myself a good communicator. I would consider

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that as a friend of yours.
I think you're a good communicator, thank

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you very much. So that's a
very nice compliment to me. It shouldn't

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be. Yeah, And to have
someone that I'm in a relationship with like

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the person you care the most about
in the world tell you that you are

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a shitty communicator and like you're not
doing it right and you suck at it

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was a huge mind like absolutely,
it was just it was a moment where

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I was like, oh my god, have I sucked it this the whole

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time? And I just didn't know, like, am I delusional? And

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then for a therapist to be like, no, you're actually a really good

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communicator and you have like very good
insight. You just start speaking two different

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languages. Both of you are,
but like slightly in your mind were like

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I knew that you were the problem. Maybe a little again, We're just

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really good at all the things.
Oh number three A lack of chemistry totally,

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I have to be I think that
gets lost a lot of time in

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the conversation because you don't want to
sound like a ship person. But it's

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okay that you want to feel attracted
and turned on by a person like personality.

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Is not all of it? Is
that terrible to say? No,

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that is not terrible to say.
However, you could be a beauty queen.

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I mean terrible And if there ain't
nothing going on behind those eyes,

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yeah, I am not attracted to
you. I'm not No I know we've

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met. I call them the glass
dolls. Just a little lights are on

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nobody home not sure. Yeah,
guys and girls alike. Because I'll be

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the first to admit one of the
biggest things that attracted me to my now

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husband his hair. Oh he has
great hair. I dated that frow hard

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real good. Yeah, this is
a really interesting one. Different life goals,

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immediate red flag and the relationship.
Yes, I don't know. I

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just kids, career stuff, and
it's I don't think that these are red

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flags that you should necessarily take personally, you know, like a red flag

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that maybe you should take personally,
like you're a bad person. Like maybe

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if they tell you, like you
have to be a certain weight in order

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to date me, oh like that
that would indicate that you're just like a

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shitty person. Yes, But having
different life goals in someone like I just

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think that's a difference of um,
Like, that's not anything to take personal.

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Like I wouldn't take that personally if
someone was like, no, my

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five year plan is literally to own
a castle, and I'd be interested in

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that relationship. That's not that's not
my life goal. That's not I don't

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think this is gonna work do you
see Are you someone that sees life goals

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being able to change, Like,
let's specifically talk the example of kids.

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I have seen so many relationships go
on for so long and then it gets

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to the point and it's like,
well, I thought you're gonna change your

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mind and the other person's like,
I told you from the start, it

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was never going to change my mind
about that. I don't want children,

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or I do want children. This
is an ender for me, Like,

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if you don't, we need to
be done. Like I had really good

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friends that broke up after eight years
over that, and she was just super

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She was like, I'm sorry,
I told you from the start. Didn't

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feel like I was designed to be
a mom, didn't want to be a

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mom. You were down with that, And he just thought she would change

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her mind or her friends would start
having children and she would feel like that's

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what she wanted to do. And
she's like, no, I'm super sorry.

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It sucks. We've been together almost
a decade, but I'm not going

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to selfishly keep dating you when you
want to be a dad and I don't

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want to be a mom. Wow, I think there's some life goals that

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I don't think change, right,
I think Carre right, it's interesting in

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our business when I saw that one, I think it can be very challenging

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to meet, to date and stay
with someone in media because a lot of

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this job. We're both very lucky
to have gotten jobs in a city we

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love and have stayed this long because
a lot of our colleagues it's you bounce

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around. You're constantly looking for either
a bigger market or better pay or a

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new opportunity. And when you're taking
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I've seen marriages break for that.
Yes that's hard. Yes, yeah,

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that is extremely hard, and there
are just some jobs that are tougher to

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make a relationship work. I often
think of jobs where people are on the

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road all the time. Yeah,
like traveling sales. I don't know what

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else that would be, or like
touring musicians or artists. Like I live

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next to a truck driver. He's
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year. Yeah, that's a lot
of You've got to really find the person

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who is comfortable being alone, and
then your schedules match up so that when

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you are home you can spend that
quality time together. Because that's a huge

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thing for me, is quality time, So that would be you're taking care

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of a lot of your own needs. H'm saying general lack of effort about

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old Schmidty would have gotten dirtier there, new Schmitty. She's a mom now,

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guys, but she can still get
it. And I'm going to make

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her tell me the dirtier things she
was thinking of. After this, he

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says, another big red flag,
general lack of effort and not being able

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to meet your needs where they're at. Absolutely, I have a brilliant friend.

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She's a flight attendant, Amanda,
shout out to you. She does

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listen. I love that. Yes, And her dad gave her amazing advice,

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and he said, when you are
dating someone, that is the best

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the relationship. In theory should be
you should be on your best behavior when

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you're dating someone, because chances are
the relationship probably isn't going to get easier

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as time goes on. Yeah,
They're only going to be added layers of

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complication. Right, So if that
initial effort and that foundation is not laid

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strong in the beginning, bye,
Wow. She told me that, and

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I'd like a gut punch advice.
I had a full epiphany. I had

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a full epiphany. So those those
guys that you match with on the apps

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that like you just like it never
makes it out of the chat, Like

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you talk about meeting up, and
you talk about meeting up, and then

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you exchange numbers and you text about
meeting up, but you just like are

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both busy and can't find the time
to know it's never in real life.

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Done with those done. That was
a hype moment, Like if you can't

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even prioritize a first date, so
that's well, that's a good one.

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Yeah, I like that a lot. This is an interesting one. They

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don't care about protecting your relationship and
you're not improving together. Two and three

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on the list What does protecting a
relationship mean to you? So I was

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I was thinking about that one,
and I thought, I think I'm very

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guilty of this, and it's a
really, really tough thing to admit to

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myself. I don't think I protect
my relationship as well as I should,

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because I think I prioritize a lot
more over my relationship. Like what that's

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work outside. You're gonna say,
well that's different. See look, but

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see that you we're programmed that way. There's there's so many times where like

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I'll miss picking up my son from
school, and it's his most favorite part

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of the day. He told me
that repeatedly. I love when you pick

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me up from school. And it's
only like a four minute drive from his

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school to our house, but he
likes to talk to me about what he

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did that day, and it's just
him and me, one on one time.

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That is so sweet. It is
so sweet. But I can't tell

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you how many times, like I'm
calling my husband, who is like also

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in the middle of something and going, oh, something came up, can

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you pick up? Or you know, we had something planned, you know,

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that afternoon for Chris and I to
do, and I'm sitting on my

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phone putting up like a social post
for something I need to do, or

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working ahead for possible conversations to have
on my morning shows the next day.

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I don't think that's protecting your relationship
because I would see that as the other

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person just going I guess I'll just
make your dinner and pull down the bed

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sheets for whenever you decide to come
to bed, And like, I think

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I'm really really bad about that.
I mean, I relate. It's hard.

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It's hard because we're career driven women
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when people will say that in a
negative way. Yeah, right, Like,

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well you're not prioritizing your family.
Where are you? Where are your

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kids? Why are you never with
them? Yeah that moment. I went

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on a couple dates with a guy
and we were talking about past relationships,

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which I don't think is super taboo
to do. I know a lot of

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people are like, oh, talk
about your ex is on a date.

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I want to know everything. I
want to know everything, and then I

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want to know what you heard,
because it's always good. But he was

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talking about his last relationship was hard
because he considered his ex to be a

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workaholic. Yeah, And I was
like, oh shit, hi, because

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and that's one thing that I wish
I was better at. I just have

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not figured out or mastered how to
work a set schedule with this job and

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then like shut it down and have
the other part of your day. Yeah,

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we obviously have our shows in the
morning that are this time to this

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time, but then there are other
things that come up throughout the day,

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like a social post that we might
need to do or which we could schedule

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that stuff out, Like there are
solutions to some of these problems, but

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it's just not a perfect world.
That's my daying life Mond, you know,

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And maybe it's lazy to think that
way, but it's like, yeah,

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I could schedule out, but where
am I doing that work? During

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a show, during the recording of
commercials, during meetings, you know,

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while we're sitting on the couch watching
whatever, Bluey, But I have to

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read the subtitles. I can't be
on my phone. True, you see

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so many exams that I'm not a
relationship. Okay, it's okay, I've

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I've had my own like epiphany moments
in the last few months too. I

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think we talked about this on maybe
two or three episodes ago. I'm trying

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to put everything I do in my
life through a filter of will this matter

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in five minutes, five months,
five years, And like, in a

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very morbid way, a lot of
what I do is will I care about

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this on my deathbed? But here's
my hang up with that is that in

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the moment I'm like, yep,
I'm going to remember this forever, this

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one is in there, and bolt
lie. Literally five minutes later, I'm

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like, huh, I do not
care about that, you know. Yeah,

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That's what I'm trying is like my
my at night anxiety. That's where

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I've really been doing it. I'm
like looking ahead to all the things the

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next day, and I'm freaking out, and I'm like, are you going

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to think about this on your deathbed? Probably? Probably? So I'm just

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having a hard time, like even
running things through that filter. I'm like,

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how can I be sure? How
can I be sure? Thank God,

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we are the same. We're going
to live together and our old age

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after all the people around us have
died, and we're just gonna we're gonna

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thrive in our anxiety were and we're
gonna be like remember that time. I

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think we'd remember it, And look
we're still thinking about it. Yeah,

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let's have more wine. Yeah.
Last one I want to do on this

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list because I thought this was very
strange and there's no real, no real

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explanation on this one reason to leave
your relationship red flag. If they can

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live without you? Oh, I
had that same reaction. Oh I can,

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I mean I can live without anybody. It feels codependent, doesn't it.

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Like I think I get really sad
when I think about like Chris dying

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like an in a shocking way,
or at a younger age than I'd like,

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or whatever, right, but you
would survive. I think I could

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survive. I don't know that you'd
thrive. How would you eat? I

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wouldn't And that's probably what makes me
more sad than like the loss of his

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companionship. No, I'll starve,
but I don't. I don't know.

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It doesn't sound like a healthy relationship
to be with someone. And you're like,

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I don't know what I would do
if you ever left me. It's

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a sweet thing to say, I
don't know what I would do without you.

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I've never thought that was romantic.
I'm like, I think at wedding

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crash or scene where it's like,
don't run because mind you, I'm like,

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it does seems stage five clingery to
me. Yeah, and then like

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freaks me out a little bit,
like why do you need me so much?

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I don't like, don't write,
don't It's nice to feel needed and

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appreciated, Yeah, but I don't
want to feel like you can't function and

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be a whole person. And if
I die, like I'm going to haunt

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you a little bit, and I
want you to take some time and like

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grieve me. I was amazing,
but then probably move on a little bit,

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a little bit what's a little bit
like if you I'm like Rip Schmidty,

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the world lost an icon, sorrowful
and prayer. Yeah, so sad.

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Let's say five years later? Yeah, yeah, I think that's I

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think that's fine. Can you start
dating? Can he can he remarry?

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Oh? Man, See that's crazy. I don't think I could wrap my

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head around that. I don't think
he would, not, not for anything

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other than we talk all the time
about how lazy we would be if we

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lost the other one. I would
I don't think I'd ever get back into

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the tating world, don't. I
think you listen to enough of this podcast

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if you're in a relationship, stick
it out, which is so not something

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I would say normally part of the
top ten red blacks, But it's brutal

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out here, like the reason there
is a reason why so many millennials are

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never going to get married and they
are going to end up single, and

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it's because it is such a vast
wasteland of decay and just a general lack

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of optimism, which checks out right
for the millennials. Yea, it really

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does. Could be another once in
a generation event, please, Yeah,

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and like we can do everything alone? Now, what is so, but

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the other side of that, I
don't disagree, and that's what I hear

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from from you and a couple of
my other friends in the dating world.

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So what happened to the other people
out there in the millennial generation? Like

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why are there's so many f boys
and people that are just like poo poo

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poo, Like why don't they want
to get married? Or why are like

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you when you've been ghosted and stuff
by guys that seem really really great?

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Yeah, why is like there's so
much of that when it feels like the

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other half of the generations like,
guys, we're just trying to be kind

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and have a nice time. My
genuine opinion on this is that dating apps

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have made it so that anyone is
attainable. There's always going to be a

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next one. Oh so if it
doesn't work out with this one, I'll

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just go on the app and find
another one, so less effort being put

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in. Yeah, And I think
that it gives you the illusion that there

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is there's always something else out there, so you're always like you're constantly seeking

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because there is so much, there's
so much abundance, like there are so

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many I'd never thought of it that
way, but it does sound correct.

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It's like, what do they say, shooting fish in apparel? Yes,

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yes, stop doing that, stop
being that way. But it's it's it's

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totally. It's kind of crazy too, because it's like these people, these

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are people who and this has happened
to me recently, So this is what

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I'm basing this on. When I
was ghosted, like that guy was taught

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he was he wanted to get married, he wanted to have kids. He

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wasn't saying like he wanted to marry
me, but we were just talking about

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life goals, like what does your
life look like? He wanted to get

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married, he wanted to have kids, he wanted to settle down, but

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like actively not doing any of those
things, which just feels, i mean

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right, just feels like talk like, oh, this is what I'm supposed

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to say, because oh but I
like that, and I don't necessarily know

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that he's out there like ghosting a
bunch of women like he did ghost me,

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but we like that could just be
because he wasn't into me, like

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maybe I wasn't event well, a
different topic for a different day, but

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maybe you feel so good about myself
I have. It's what we're here to

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do. And also it's all true. Maybe this is the problem you're giving

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me such an inflated ego. Never
but I'm out of here with these wild,

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unrealistic expectations. Bring me on your
next day and I will just hype

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from like I am a catch.
She can't understand why you haven't wiped me

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yet because I'm sweet. So I've
been waiting to hear about the bumble backtrack

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the update. Oh my god,
was it a thrilling time? Oh this

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guy ilbeit a couple of hours like
only so I'm time though. Spoiler alert,

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so in case you need to be
caught up on this situation. I

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recently matched with someone on a dating
app who I had matched with before and

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it didn't end well and I couldn't
really remember why. I remember they had

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said something to me that I didn't
like, and then we just like never

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talked again, and then rematched on
this dating app, which I didn't even

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know it was possible, which I
was like, I can't figure out if

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he knows that and he's trying to
get back in which is what we talked

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about on the last episode, or
if he just doesn't remember I thought he

408
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.000
was trying to get back in.
I think he didn't remember, but we'll

409
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:59.160
never know because it ended very abruptly. He messaged me. I messaged him

410
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.640
back, and I just I'd like, hey, I've had a browse of

411
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:07.680
your profile, and it just seems
that there are some conflicting sentiments on the

412
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:14.839
profile, like what, Well,
it says you are looking for a girl

413
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.079
who wants more than attention, But
when it says what type of relationship you're

414
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:25.519
looking for, it says something short
term and something casual, so completely opposite

415
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:29.480
things, wouldn't That's how I interpret
it it? Yes? And he said,

416
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.799
well, how do you interpret a
girl looking for more than just attention?

417
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.079
And I said, well, to
me, that says you're looking for

418
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:42.400
some sort of vulnerability to be shared
in, like a connection, Like you're

419
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.799
not just looking for a pen pal
or someone to like check in with,

420
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.599
you know, like not someone to
just send a picture too, and then

421
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.200
be like, oh my god,
hot, pick right just like that.

422
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.799
Yes, And he was like,
and you can't do that in a short

423
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.880
term casual relationship. What does a
short term casual relationship mean to you?

424
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.839
And I was very forward. I
said, in my opinion, you don't

425
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:12.680
really dig super deep in a short
term casual relationship, and to me that

426
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:17.279
means like hookups, Like you're looking
for hookups. Yeah. I think it's

427
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:22.279
a very respectful way saying I'm just
here to I'm just DTF and there's nothing

428
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.880
wrong with her. That's what you're
looking for, and you're being honest about

429
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.400
it. That's okay, that's not
what I'm looking for at the moment,

430
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:34.640
but it's up to you. So
after I sent him my little synopsis and

431
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:45.960
interpretations of the questions that he asked
me, immediately unmatched me. Immediately I

432
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.400
laughed out loud, Oh, out
loud. He was, I mean,

433
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:56.039
like he was cute too. Yeah. So it was like he couldn't interesting

434
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.599
and this is meant as a compliment. He couldn't handle you. Like now,

435
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.599
now I feel like whatever he said, a girl not looking for attention,

436
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.079
short term whatever he was looking for. One of the doll had the

437
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:13.240
doll faces, Like I said,
pretty maybe not a lot going on upstairs.

438
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.480
The fact that you said all that
back and he's like, oh,

439
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.279
I can't even read something. I'm
taking liberties here. I can't even read

440
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.799
some of those big words. Is
what I take that as. Yeah,

441
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.039
And it was, and now that
I think about it, like I was

442
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.039
really psychoanalyzing and like using a lot
of those well, because this wasn't your

443
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:37.680
first time a relationship that prioritizes physical
intimacy, Like I actually typed that out

444
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:43.480
and sent it, So that's kind
of doche now that I'm no never,

445
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.160
I'm just you're a woman that knows
what she wants, and it really second

446
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.640
time he's wanted to do. Well, oh the bumble backtrack. I just

447
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.319
wonder, like what they think when
they see pictures, because you can pictures

448
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.000
are worth a thousand words. Yeah, And I I'm sure I'm not alone

449
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:06.319
in this. When I see someone's
profile, I absolutely create a narrative of

450
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.640
who I think this person is in
my head, just based on their photos.

451
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:14.839
And then sometimes you talk to these
people and you're like flop dud,

452
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.839
Yeah, and that's okay, that's
okay what it's for. But it's my

453
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:24.880
own insanity. It's my own version
of them that I create. And then

454
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.559
when they don't live up to that, I'm like, oh, I'm disappointed,

455
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.039
Like, oh, I wonder why
I just can't the fact that he

456
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:37.920
immediately was just like wow, I
literally meant for you to text back like

457
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:43.519
an I know right or something like
that. Can't handle it by good bye?

458
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.559
Backtrack. Yeah, I gotta be
able to have a conversation with you,

459
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:50.480
because think about it, that's the
other when I was looking through those

460
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.759
red flags, I'm like, somebody
you can live without, Like we were

461
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:59.720
just talking about, Oh my gosh, is it not so painful when like

462
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:05.880
a couple becomes empty nesters and realize
they have nothing in common. It's my

463
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.400
biggest fear. I know. That's
why I like you. Still you still

464
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.000
have to do stuff like when you
have kids or whatever it is, or

465
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:19.239
you're busy schedules, because I mean
these like divorced seventy year olds that are

466
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.079
like, while our last kid moved
out like five years ago, and it

467
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.039
turns out we hate each other,
like we just we have nothing to talk

468
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:29.400
about, we have nothing to do
because our entire relationship has been devoted to

469
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.199
like children or work. Yep,
you've got to have You've got to be

470
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:37.760
able to have the conversations, the
fun times, the battles. Yeah,

471
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.679
I like. I like that.
I think it's you know, it's refreshing,

472
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:47.760
It gets things out. You can't
just backtrack bumble would have been an

473
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:55.119
absolute disaster, man. Yeah,
but I mean it was. It was

474
00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.760
kind of a crazy two hours because
I really wasn't expecting a lot out of

475
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.599
it. Like I really wanted to
just figure out if he had known that

476
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.000
we had matched before or like he
really didn't a little bit guilty and that

477
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.280
like it was kind of a content
swipe, if you will, which should

478
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.199
never make you feel guilty. It's
for our audience, it's for you.

479
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.679
Yeah, that was a great swipe. So but and then like there was

480
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:30.400
also an element of like, oh, rejected again. I'm not super like

481
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:37.000
busted up about it, right,
but I'm just I'm offering my services the

482
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.440
next time you have like a dinner
date. I will just sit in the

483
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.639
booth across the way and every so
often be like, ah, but like,

484
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:49.320
since amazing, it's not me,
right, it's not because that at

485
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.320
a certain point, I'm gonna have
to take a good, long, hard

486
00:35:52.360 --> 00:36:00.440
look in the mirror and be like, we're not that denominator strongly dis agree,

487
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:06.719
as does everyone zero chance it's you
die on that hill. Well that

488
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:12.119
makes me feel a little bit better
for now. For now, that's all

489
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.280
we can do. We'll see,
we'll see how it goes to do.

490
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:22.320
So, speaking of like recurring bits, yes, we're going to add I

491
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.519
liked what was it the Schmidt talking
shit? Yeah, yeah, we're going

492
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.079
to add that in. I like
it because my two year old can't talk

493
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:35.880
yet. But when she really really
can wait for it, because her eyes

494
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.039
and her body language already hurts my
feelings. So when she matches words with

495
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:43.719
that. But my five year old
is just so kind and wonderful. Then

496
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.039
when he says things that aren't it
really is funny because he doesn't realize he's

497
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:52.519
doing it. The best character analysis
of your children that I have ever seen

498
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:58.400
in video form on your social media
is the video of Sophia stealing Will's food.

499
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.760
Oh my god, did you see
she has no shame? Not only

500
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.559
did I see it, but I
was like, this is this is these

501
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.960
are this is them, this is
their essence yep. And Will's just sitting

502
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.880
there like and so reach writer get
and she makes it a whole thing.

503
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.079
She's like on her knees, She's
like, hold on, I can't,

504
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.760
I can't quite, and then just
all the food, Yeah, I love,

505
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:31.000
I love, and then the eyes
like I did absolutely nothing wrong.

506
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:36.039
There. It was in my vicinity. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be

507
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:37.800
it's gonna be real eye opening.
Yeah, it's gonna make you want to

508
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:43.079
have kids. When't you find that
person in life? If ever, if

509
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:50.199
I ever do find anyone. Um
changing the subject back to reoccurring bits,

510
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:55.239
because I got so much feedback last
week about our sweaty feet hmm, a

511
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.599
lot of our listeners. I'm so
sorry, really quick. I hope you

512
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.679
can't hear that. My stomach is
growing and I just am so embarrassed that

513
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.360
that's being picked up by the microphone. Oh I didn't hear it. Jesus,

514
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.840
Sorry, guys. Continue, Well, it's because we're hungry. My

515
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.199
god. You probably haven't eaten today. No I haven't. No, we've

516
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:16.119
got to keep the feet looking skinny. I'd really tell you what thanking on

517
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:21.440
this. I'll tell you what.
So many of our listeners are also in

518
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:22.840
the sweaty feet club. I will
not say any of your names and put

519
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.280
you on blast, but I did
receive more than one DM from you guys

520
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:34.800
about also having sweaty, stinky beat
that makes me feel good. Suggestion switch

521
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:40.840
your synthetic socks to one cotton apparently
that helps. I'll be honest with you,

522
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.599
I had no idea socks remain out
of anything other than cotton. I

523
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.239
guess we got to start reading the
label. But I think we should start

524
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:55.679
doing a recurring bit called Uncomfortably Close. It'll be details like that, because

525
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:01.840
so many episodes of Buns and Banter
where and we always are like you guys

526
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.360
learned so much about us on these
podcasts, and then we're sharing like these

527
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.880
insider which we shouldn't be sharing on
the internet, but here we are for

528
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.480
those girls. We do it for
the views. But yeah, I think

529
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.840
that that is something that we should
start uncomfortably close. Uncomfortably I'm sitting here

530
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.840
right now, so uncomfortable about the
ocean sweats, sitting in my brown slats.

531
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:32.559
Right now. We are this.
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