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We're Tom of Lorenzo and this is
the Pop Style Opinion Fest Tell Quits.

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Welcome back to another edition of the
PSL. I am the team. You're

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t Low Tom Fitzgerald, and I'm
here with thellow and your tea lot.

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Lorenzo, my love the husband.
How are you a lovely husband? Fantastic,

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fantastic. The heat Dome is not
as bad as it was. We

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might even open some windows today.
It is the end of June. We're

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heading into the week of July fourth, which is always fun for us because

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we live in Philadelphia, literally only
a couple of blocks from like the Betsy

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Ross House and the Liberty Bells,
so people are always asking us what do

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you do for what are you doing
for the July fourth? And the thing

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is like there's literally fireworks outside our
bedroom window. Like we don't have to

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do anything. We just walk a
couple of blocks and there's like parties going

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on everywhere, just low down and
yeah, there's there's stuff everywhere. I

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used to be pissy about yes,
tourists, but actually I'm not anymore.

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No, I'm not. I'm proud
to live where I live and no,

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I actually took pictures of them and
send them to My Mama said, this

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is my neighborhood every day because I
walked to the gym and sometimes I see

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them coming, like fifty one hundred
people coming my way through boy Scout,

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you know, I know, so
I have to cross the street. I'm

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very good at that to like spotty
them like miles away, so I can,

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you know, cross the street or
whatever. I don't mind. I

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don't mind the mind. I think
it's cy that they come and it's history,

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you know, we all should learn
a little uh, And it's great.

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I think it's great. It's good
for the neighborhood. No, I

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don't I don't mind at all.
I don't mind either. As for our

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podcasts, as we it is a
hundred percent TV talk podcast. And part

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of the reason this is dropping on
a Friday, we actually were going to

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get this out earlier in the week
because we didn't have a particularly busy week

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on the red carpet front. But
the bear was dropping and we know people

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were going to plow through it very
quickly, so we thought, you know

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what, we're going to wait for
that to drop. We're going to watch

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the whole season, which we did, which was relatively easy to do because

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most of the episodes are under forty
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thirty. So we binge watched the
entire season three and we're going to have

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a mostly spoiler free discussion about it. There will be some discussion about what

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the episodes were about. We're deliberately
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but it's not like it was a
plot heavy season anyway. But we'll get

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into that. But we're going to
wait until the end of the you know,

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the second half of the podcast to
get into that one, because that's

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like a whole season long thing.
But we are very late because we waited

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for the Bear to come out.
We are very late talking about this past

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week's House of the Dragon. We're
like five days late on it. So

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we apologize for that. I think
this was right nearer the Cruel is the

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It was the the second episode of
season two, and this is the sort

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of the fallout from Damon sending assassins
to kill aim and then wind up killing

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Prince Jaharis. So it's all the
fallout from that and all the political positioning

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from that. I have to reiterate
my point, and I just I don't

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want to sound like I'm smug about
this or that I'm being superior about this,

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But I do have to laugh a
little bit when people people take size

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on this and that they treat they
act like the person they're like, you

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know, right, is our girl, and you know all the and she's

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awful. They're all awful. Everybody
in the show is terrible. It actually

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frees you up as a viewer to
just embrace the actual story and not have

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to worry about whether or not or
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people that you are identifying with or
rooting for or whatever are good people,

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because nobody in the story is good. First. That's what I like about

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the show. It is they're all
horrible people, and they all have you

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know, there are they have their
moments when you feel sorry for them that

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you kind of root for them and
then you hate them the next episode.

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I just love that because there are
people, they like people. That's just

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it. It's a much more human
take on a fantasy story, clearly.

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I mean, that's the thing that
separates George R. R. Martin from

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someone like Tolkien is that he was
far more interested in the human emotions than

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he was in things like magic rings
or rag or even dragons. You know,

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dragons are basically nuclear weapons in this
world. That's all they are.

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They're just allegories for nuclear weapons.
But I agree, I like that you

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know, no one on there is
nobody, no good people around this in

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this story. Literally nowhere in this
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they're humans. So you know,
mothers more than their children, and and

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you know, people watch their life
plans fall apart or whatever, and you

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feel for them, and that is, as you said, that's humanity.

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They don't have to be morally perfect
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or identify with them or feel something
for them. But the idea of taking

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sides on this story like nobody,
I mean, I guess nominally Rhinira is

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the one that you're supposed to be
taking sides with. Maybe that's because I

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think Emma Darcy's performance is just so
friggin strong. And also I do think

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Allison comes off pretty badly. I
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I think she comes well, they're
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but ah, I feel like she
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a hypocrite. I think that's the
big she's a big time hypocrite, and

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I guess, say, what's a
little about right near her? But she's

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not a hypocrite, and I think
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people so caught up. It's sort
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loathe that guy, loathe him,
and I agree, they do such a

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great job, and I want to
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little bit. But they loathe that
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he's horrible, But you know,
is Damon any better? Is Agone any

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better? Are any of these people
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No, I do love that they're
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else for their fuck ops. Yeah, it's just just like ordinary people.

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Just like ordinary people. They also
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we don't see much of that,
you know, on shows anymore, that

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they have these long conversations, you
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they have these great discussions or conversations
about anything. I actually read a very

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good interview with jessc laying my Goddess
talking about that. I like, like

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she went back and watched her movies
and whatever, and she feels like today,

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everything cut, cut, cut,
you know, they cut to the

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vaccine, cut and move. Directors
don't stay, you know, and spend

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a good two or I don't know, three minutes on people just talking and

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having conversations. So and you get
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agree. Going back to Sir Kristen
call, one of the things I think

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is very smart about that character is
the casting. Oh yeah, my god,

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because it's not new to cast a
traditionally conventionally good looking person in a

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villainous role. It's not even new
for this franchise. You know, there

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were plenty of very good looking terrible
people in Game of Thrones, and there

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are plenty of good looking terrible people
in House of the Dragon. But what

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I think is interesting about Fabian Frankel
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who you know, I don't know
if you would consider him movie idle

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good looks or but well, let's
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has his you know, charms or
whatever. Or a better one is to

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go back to Game of Thrones and
Jeoffrey. Remember Jeoffrey. Everyone hated that

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kid so much they cast that actor. I can't remember the guy's name.

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He's grown up now, he's in
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cast dispersions on his looks. He
was a good looking kid and he's a

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good looking adult. But he has
that sort of sneering, villainous face.

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You know, there's a certain type
of face that you love to hate.

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I think Matt Smith has that kind
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He's hot, but he's also villainous, that sort of It's just that,

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you know, shows like this tend
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and Fabian Frankle just has that sort
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and it's actually an unusual look.
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that were sort of like Rob Stark
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boy pin up look, and they
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characters. But he looks like a
pin up. He's he's very good looking,

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like like and I don't mean like
he's like movie stargled look. He's

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like he's got that softness. It's
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Jawn. He's got like a pin
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do good things, and you expect
a guy, and you don't expect a

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guy like that to be a raging
misogyny with women issues. He's clearly got

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women, and he's a liar and
he's a you know whatever, he's a

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coward on top of it. The
other cute people of the show, or

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the two twins that died this eric, they look they're adorable, They looked

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incredible there the costume. You would
think one of them would have cut their

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hair so that they wouldn't have had
a well issue, like we'll get to

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that. But there was a huge
conversation online complaining about that that during the

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fight they couldn't tell who Well,
that was the point, you, Yeah,

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but I think that's brilliant. That's
exactly the point, because because at

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first I was like, are we
getting to the fight already? Okay,

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so yeah, it's not a strict
right right, So when when they were

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fighting, I was like, all
right, one is gonna win, but

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how do we know he's the good
guy or the bed I thought that's what

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It was incredible, Yeah, and
then the one who won killed himself And

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I think that was such a great
yes sort of metaphor for the entire story.

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It's family fighting family. I mean, remember, it's hard to remember

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this sometimes, but like Queen Helena
who lost just lost her child, is

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right near his sister, right,
It's kind of hard to remember that,

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but that's you know, so it
is family fighting family. And the two

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twins were like this perfect visual representation
of how fucked up this whole story is

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because here they both wound up dead
and when they were fighting, I was

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like, God, you're both fighting
over nothing. It has you're gaining nothing,

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it has nothing to do with you, which is that is the history

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of warfare. It's you know,
people dying for and other people who aren't

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actually fighting. And also the history
of the royal in kingdom whatever, you

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know, like the loyalty right,
you were loyal to your king or to

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your queen right, and you've you
know, you fought and died for them.

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I thought that was very I wish
we as someone mentioned, several people

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mentioned, I wish we had no
more about the twins they but I agree

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we we think some of the more
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That's the problem with it. But
my god, they look majestic.

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They look so gorgeous. At two
of them, the costume, the hair,

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the face. I was like,
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It was tragic vision, beautiful visual. They died for no they really died

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for no reason. What else there
are? Yeah, there's the two guys

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that were introduced that are I think
pretty clearly Corless's children or bastard sons whatever.

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Yeah, And this is what happens
when you diversify your casting, is

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that you introduce these two black characters
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and they're in the scene together.
So I don't know what's going on

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there. I have read the story
outlined for this, so I have a

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general idea of where I know how
everybody dies, I which is actually very

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very satisfying when you're yeah, because
you know to find out how. I'm

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not going to spoil anything, but
I know how every character meets there.

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There's no stress, no stress.
I'm just waiting for some of these buckers

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to get there. According to what
I read online, he's the son,

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you know, something like that,
which would make them potential Dragon writer,

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which is why there was that scene
where the guy was just pointing that out.

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It's just an interesting thing to note
that I believe their Lenia is just

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supposed to be something of a mystery. But it's you know, when you

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when you have one prominent black family
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come in, you're just going to
assume that they're. Back to what you

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said about the actors in general.
The acting in general, I have to

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say, and we said that many
times and I'll say it again, excellent.

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The actors are so good. They
are so so even the young kids.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, the
one who plays young Helena, the

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Queen cannot take the funeral. First
off, the costumes, those crowns with

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the veils, the boats she and
Allison were, I was like, oh

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my god, that's beautiful. That
looks like something out of a Roman fresco.

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The way they were costume, the
slow motion, the cinematography, everything

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about that funeral was just absolutely perfect
and grueling, grueling, and it was

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clearly based on Princess Diana's funeral.
They even admitted that, yeah, yeah,

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they did, And I just loved
the whole thing. And then when

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the wagon wheel got stuck, yeah, I was going to go down the

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street, the head is going to
fall off. I can't believe they're doing

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this, but they didn't think that. They didn't take it that far.

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But that's what I love about this
show is that they really show how raw

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and brute or everything was at the
time, you know, you were the

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king. I always say that at
the time there was no time. There

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was a time, not history.
Well, but even let's say real history.

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You know, people were filthy and
dirty, and the streets were dirty,

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people smelled. I love how you
can get that. You know,

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it's not just beautiful people in a
castle. No, I totally agree with

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that. I mean, I do
love Tolkien, and I'm really, really

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truly looking forward to the Rings of
Power, especially since they're bringing the Barrel

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Anyway, But Tolkien is a different
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and because of the glory of it, the majesty of it, and that's

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I mean, George R. Martin
is opposed to glorifying any of this stuff.

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I mean, he really wants you
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with his character and you get that, Yeah, you get that. Nobody

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takes a shit in Tolkien, but
everybody does in Western Oh my god,

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Yeah, nobody bleeds in Tolkien,
not really, and then wester Ros is

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just like a wash in blood anyway, so many great things scenes, do

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you The one that I just absolutely
loved this is the auto auto high tower

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scene with the king. That was
just brilliant. Yeah, what's his name,

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Reeves Ephans. He is absolutely fantastic. He deserves a nomination. That

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performance was like one of the best. I mean you just like you just

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enjoy every second of it, every
line, every move, the way he

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looked at the king, Yeah,
just perfect, perfect, perfect. If

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anybody I can't root for that guy. I don't think he has a moral

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I mean he actually does have a
moral code, because he was offended that

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innocent that the king had all the
ratcatchers killed, right, and he was

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offended by that, although I think
he was more upset that it wasn't going

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to aid them politically. But I
do think there was a moral response there

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where he was like, you you
killed innocent man. I think I think

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he cares about tradition of things going
a certain Well, he's a hand.

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They all did. Yeah, that's
his job. So it's not that he's

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a good guy, but he's not. He at least I don't know he's

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better than he has. He has
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I mean not really. I really
don't want to overstate it. Like I

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said, everybody in this story is
horrible speaking of horrible people. Damon,

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my god, he is just well
that scene was actually really funny. I

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mean, Ran is like, who
could have done this? Were you really

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the lady? I said that everybody
turns and looks at him. I said

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that out loud, and I was
like, come on, you can't be

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that stupid. Come on. I
guess they needed to have this moment where

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right near her realizes that her husband
doesn't love her, never loved her,

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and and he still blames his brother
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So there's that that. But but
it was a fantastic scene because he

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was his anger and then marriage fight
right away, but Royal fied too.

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I mean it was just all there. Yeah, it was just like all

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that anger and it was just great
when she talks about him being a kid

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and you know what a ship had
he was and she been trying to fight

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that her whole life. I think
that the show does, I don't say

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a great job, but does a
good job showing how women, you know,

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are always you know, sacrifice or
how women are not treated the way

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you know they should be treated,
especially back then. So I think the

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show does a good job. And
and she you know that everyone is a

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game. These two women, nobody
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So I thought it was interesting that
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white worm, the one that and
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in the dialogue that they had met
when when Raniera was a child, because

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damon he was going to marry her. I don't know if they wrote her

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out or not. She was leaving
Dragonstack was beautiful when she saw the one

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twin coming through, and clearly she
warned somebody about it, But I don't

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know if she it'd be interesting if
she and Raniera had some sort of I

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don't know, you know, partnership
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Missuria is probably one of the few
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in if she if she wanted to. So we'll see. I don't know,

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general I know where how everybody dies,

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but I don't know every twist and
turn of the story, So I

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don't know where Mazaria is going well, whether she even has a role in

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the story going forward, But well, I it's not very clear if she

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came back and said something I know
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then well the Queen is gonna love
yeah, exactly. So I'm hoping it's

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that, But I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, why

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would she come back? But we'll
see. I don't know. Is there

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anything else you wants? I also
love the that they're bringing common folks,

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you know, the public opinion and
people matter, and show you more of

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esther rows, because I don't want
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having conversations in you know, in
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I mean it's nice to see a
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I don't know, it feels more
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It was just a great episode.
It is great episode. The story

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is small. It's not about saving
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about terrible people, you know,
jocking. It's succession with dragons. It's

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terrible people jocking for power, and
none of whom are likable. But yeah,

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and it's really really well acted and
beautiful to look at it. And

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I appreciate that they're all horrible people. Horrible, horrible people. Yes,

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that makes me easier to watch because
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I just hate. Are we wrapping
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good and I keep I hope they
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like the second episode. Agreed,
we'll take a second here and we are

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back. I just wanted to briefly
talk about and get my nerd on and

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talk about Uh I didn't see that. I'm sorry, that's right. What

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was I saying? You were going
to talk about your show? Yes,

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I wanted to briefly talk get my
nerd on and talk about Star Wars the

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acolyte. Sorry about that brief interruption. Uh So the nerd, the the

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angry in cell nerds have been,
you know, review bombing this show because

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there are no white men in the
story. And I don't want to over

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praise the show, but I will
say it's probably the second best Star Wars

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show. Well, let me put
it this way, and or of all

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the Star Wars television shows, live
action Disney Plus television shows that they've done

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since Disney Plus launched, I would
say Indoor season one is far and away

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the best of all of them.
Mandalorian Season one is only slightly behind that,

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But then everything after that sucked.
I'm sorry, Obi Wan sucked,

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Ahsoka sucked, Bobba Fett all sucked, completely sucked, and then the Mandalorian

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went down the tubes too. So
I don't want to overstate how good this

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show is because I don't think it's
perfect, but I do think it's actually

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very good. The story is interesting
to me because it is not rehashing.

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It exists within a framework of what
we know about the history of the you

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know, the High Republic and all
that, and the Jedi Order, but

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it's not a wash in lore and
continuity and stuff that you need to know.

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There are no Skywalkers in this,
thank god, and they really haven't

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tied it to any of the films, like they literally had one character from

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the film in one scene, and
a minor character. If I said his

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name, most of you wouldn't even
know Key out of Monday. I mean,

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you'd have to be a really big
Star Wars fan to even know that

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he was in there. So it
stands on its own in a lot of

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ways, but it plays on what
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about the Sith, and this episode
was, honestly, that was one

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of the best lightsaber battles I have
ever ever seen on film. It was

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really really well done, just a
great, great fight scene and with the

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reveal that spoiler. Okay, so
there is going to be a spoiler here

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giving you a second all right boiler. Many Jacinto really is the bad guy.

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But I think, I mean,
was it really that hard to figure

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out? Come on and the minute
they showed that guy's arms under his robs,

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I was like, well, we
know that's Many Gesinto. God,

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he has incredible arms. He really, I mean, that guy's got great

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bone structure, but man, I
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in fantastic fight scene. He's also
really good as a villain, really really

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really good. He got some great
lines in and like kind of blew someone

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like Kylo Wren out of the water, like Adam Driver's character. I was

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like, this is what his character
should have been, charismatic and beautiful and

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seductim And I guess certain people thought
he was, but man, I just

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thought Many Jacinto was one of the
best evil characters I've ever seen on Star

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Wars honestly, not not really up
there with the Emperor and Darth Vader.

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I wouldn't go that far, but
certainly for me, better than Kylo Wren,

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better than Darth Maul, better than
a lot of the darths. I

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thought he was fascinating. I think
his helmet's really cool, and people are

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gonna people complain that about his helmets. But let's face it, Star Wars

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is all about the helmets now,
it's not about the faces anymore. Have

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you ever noticed that lucasfilm thing that
plays in front of every episode. There's

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no human faces. It's just all
helmets and robots because that stuff is easier

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to you know, turn into a
toy. That's great because I always thought

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he was good. He was good
in the Good Place. Yeah he's a

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good actor, he's but he never
got to play hot on the Good Place,

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not really because he was so stupid
on that show. And he's insanely

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hot in this Like, like all
I could think was, it's almost it's

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like watching a young Kenna Reeves,
if Kannon Reeves was ripped and built,

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you know what I mean, Like, because Canon never really was. I

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he was kind of built in speed. But yeah, he's just got that

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super super hot but also incredibly elegant, high cheekbone look to him, like

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it's he needs to be a bigger
start. That's what I'm trying. And

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I hope he gets a lot out
of this. Actually, I hope they

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don't kill his character off. I
mean, that's a character who probably deserves

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a little bit more time, especially
since the implication is is that he more

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or less is resurrecting the Sith Order. And also there was an implication that

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he was somehow utilizing the magic wielding, you know, the force wielding abilities

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of the Witches, Like there was
some indication that hit. The way he

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uses it is closer to how the
Witches used it than how the Jedi used

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it, which should be interesting.
Although you're setting up the Witches in Star

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Wars as this anti patriarchal order,
which is how I actually had a few

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issues about that in previous episodes,
but that was the setup. You're going

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to have, like lesbian witches as
this anti patriarchal order in opposition to the

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Jedi. If you turn around and
make them the inspiration for them, I

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don't know if that's such a great
idea, Like you're making lesbians the root

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of all evil in Star Wars.
I don't know that. Yeah, I

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don't think that's I sincerely doubt that
that's where that's going. But we'll see

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where it's going. I don't know
anyway. Episode five really great, really

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great fight, seeing a lot of
deaths, two character deaths that I won't

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spoil in case you haven't seen it, but I was shocked that both of

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those characters were killed. And they
both had huge potential as Star Wars characters.

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So it was really but that's that's
refreshing. The two characters that were

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killed, you know, whatever,
I could say who they were, but

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the two characters that were killed,
they were perfect setups for their own adventures.

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They both had great looks that we
didn't know anything about them. They

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were young, they you know,
and they were charismatic so everything. It's

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really kind of refreshing to see Star
Wars say, no, we're going to

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kill them off. We're not going
to do three movies about these, we're

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not going to do an entire siere, we're not gonna sell toys and everything.

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Here's a couple of really interesting characters. Now we're gonna kill them off

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so that you can feel the pain
of them dying, because that's not something

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Star Wars does well. Franchises don't
do death well often because it's not permanent.

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So and also because they rarely you
know, franchises don't normally kill off

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characters with a lot of potential to
them. Yeah, there's always a question

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mark, well, when maybe we're
gonna bring them back exactly. I mean

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when you think of something like Avengers, where they killed off Tony Stark,

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well, he had appeared in about
ten movies at that point, there was

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there wasn't a lot of potential.
It was that he was an extremely popular

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character. That's why the death mattered. But he also so there wasn't a

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lot of story left to tell me. He had gotten married, he had

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a kid, and you know,
he had dealt with all his demons.

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And so that's a different sort of
thing. When you introduce brand new characters

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that you barely know and they're really
interesting and then boom they die. That's

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a choice to make for a starry
show. And I really hope that those

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characters aren't getting resurrected in some weird
way. I think that's all I'm going

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to say about that. The Acolyte. I'm enjoying it. It's not the

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greatest show on TV. It's not
the greatest season of Star Wars I've ever

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seen, like I said, and
or season one, Mandalorian season one,

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but I would put this somewhere behind
probably Mandalorian season two. So it's a

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good show. I actually love that
there are no there's no white people in

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it. There's are some white people, but there's like they're not they're now

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no white male character is I don't
even I don't even think there is one.

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I think that's the beauty of having
too many options now, is that

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you can do that. You can
have a show with, you know,

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right, people that you would normally
cast, you know, because they're not

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white. And you have to remember
that Star Wars in nineteen seventy seven,

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the original film was just like one
white, one hundred percent white. So

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this is all sort of a correct
two years and years of and they're and

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you know, based on what you're
telling me, they're talented, you know,

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so they deserve the spotlight. Yeah
think, yeah, absolutely, That's

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all I have to say about that. I know, Lorenzo, let's take

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another short break, and then Lorenzo
has something he wants to talk about all

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right, Lorenzo, Yes, your
latest obsession. I know I'm a little

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behind here, but I watched recently
the movie The Great Lilian Hall with Jessica

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Lang, my goddess, I absolutely
worship. It's on HBO. It's on

406
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:41,920
HBO. Uh. It's the story
is it's this Broadway star diva who's great,

407
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:48,480
everyone loves her, and she's rehearsing
for her latest play, but she's

408
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:53,680
battling memory loss in dementia. So
it's a very interesting story. Of course,

409
00:29:53,759 --> 00:30:00,759
Jessica Lang is absolutely fantastic, Marvel
is wonderful, but also we have

410
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:06,240
Kathy Baits and we have Lily Rabe
as part of the cast, and it's

411
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:10,200
just a great, great, great
movie. You know, I love everything

412
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,359
she does, jesscaling absolutely, but
it's just a great movie. It's a

413
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,079
great movie. It's hard to watch
for me, dementia. I don't know

414
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,640
why. I mean, I'm always
like it's one of the things that really

415
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,880
scared me when I watch on screen. I'm like, oh my god,

416
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480
please, it's just hard to watch. In fact, I only watched the

417
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:33,559
movie once because I I can't watch
this again. But it's worth watching at

418
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,759
least at least once everyone is great. There's a scene with jesskalalaing, Kathy

419
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,200
Bates and Lily Rabe and it's just
my god, I thought my I posted

420
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,559
on Instagram. I thought my hat
was gonna explode because all these amazing women

421
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,480
acting together. It was just a
beautiful scene. And then later reading an

422
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,759
interview, I found out that they're
friends, They're very close friends, and

423
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:59,200
so that which is perfect for them
to act together. It's a it's a

424
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,519
great movie about to mention a very
hard thing to deal with, and I

425
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:06,960
think they did a good job presenting
as it is, how hard it is

426
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,039
and how horrible it is. But
it's it's a great movie. I highly

427
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,480
recommend it again. It's called The
Great Lilian Hole on HBO. Yeah,

428
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,400
and I know it had a strange
Originally Meryl Streep was yes, and it

429
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,480
was supposed to be a theatrical release, right right right. And I also

430
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:26,559
know I can't remember the name of
the actress, but this is based on

431
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,519
the theater actress, a real theater
actress too. Wait, I do remember

432
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:36,880
Mary and Selda I think is their
name, who suffered dementia late in her

433
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,680
career. So I have nothing to
add because I haven't had to watch yet,

434
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,480
but I thought I would add those
little bits of factoids in that originally

435
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,440
was supposed to be Meryl Streep,
and it is based on a real interesting

436
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:52,519
Broadway actress I knew about Carl's.
Yeah, it's really really good Tory some

437
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,200
of these other seventy years old or
to Charame, hello, I'm closed.

438
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,119
Let's get around here. You know, I know it's good. I thought

439
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:06,440
it was very good. You know. I love Jessica Langston's King Kong.

440
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:10,960
Believe me. I fell in love
with her watching King Kong. So I

441
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:19,200
love the woman and I do feel
minor criticism here that towards the end of

442
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,359
her career now she tends to play
the same I don't know, she has

443
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,640
kind of the same mannerisms for every
character that's been true of her for a

444
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,400
while. Yeah, I that's my
only criticism. But she's still amazing.

445
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,400
She's phenomenal, she's real, and
I would also just add to that,

446
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:42,200
like Jessica lang definitely has her bag
of tricks that she tends to go to,

447
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,559
But then again, so does freaking
Meryl Streep. I'm sorry, my

448
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,519
god. Yes, yes, if
you watch a bunch of Meryl Streep movies

449
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,440
back to back. You just start
to see the technique. She has,

450
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,000
that thing that she looks up and
roll her eyes and whatever she gets all

451
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,680
flustered with. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, doesn't matter who she's playing,

452
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,920
and I'm not I don't mean that
to despair. I think any great actor,

453
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:06,359
yes, once they reach you know, fifty years into their career,

454
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,880
of course, they're going to have
a certain bag of tricks, a certain

455
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,400
mannerisms that are going to come up
over and over again. That doesn't mean

456
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,720
that they're not good. No,
it doesn't mean that they're not good,

457
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:21,000
although I do think sometimes Jessica Lang
goes from zero to sixty in her performance

458
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,400
is a little too like, just
a little too often. Were gonna stop

459
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,839
right now? All right, whatever, stop it? Oh okay, let's

460
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,319
move on to The Bear. Yes, the Bear season three, which was

461
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,000
a bear. Yeah, I'm going
to start right off the bat and say

462
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:43,279
I wasn't loving I don't love this
season. Let me just get a few

463
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:47,720
thoughts out, and then yes,
I know that The Bear is really a

464
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:52,000
well beloved show. And I will
admit that A couple of times during this

465
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:57,400
season while I was watching even as
I was getting annoyed with the way the

466
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,440
show was playing out, I was
like, God, I do actually these

467
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:08,000
people, and it to make a
sort of comparison, but the comparison falls

468
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:13,079
down, and I'll explain why in
a bit, But it's sort of like

469
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:20,639
mad Men, where you watched a
show with very fucked up people working together

470
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:27,440
in situations that you know, stressful
or demoralizing or whatever, but you knew

471
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,239
them all so well, you knew
their stories so well that you kind of

472
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,159
loved those people, and you kind
of wanted if you wanted to work at

473
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,599
Sterling Cooper, you want to work
in the kitchen at The Bear. You

474
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,760
just want to even though it looks
horrible. So the show is really good

475
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,199
about that. But to take it
back to the mad Men comparison, mad

476
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:53,039
Men had distinct episodes that were about
distinct things distinct thing and they played out

477
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:58,079
over the course of a forty five
minute episode, and then that episode ended

478
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,119
it told it a larger story.
But when I think about mad Men,

479
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:07,039
I think about distinct episodes with beginnings, middles, and ends that had a

480
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:12,559
point to them, And so much
of this season of The Bear, I

481
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,639
was like, is there a point
here? Can we get to the point

482
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,519
or better yet, could you please
stop making the same point over and over

483
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:28,760
and over again. I get it, Carmei has a lot of issues,

484
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,960
and actually Carme's issues are the centerpiece
of this story, which is why comparing

485
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,880
it to Mad Men is actually somewhat
instructive, because it is similar in a

486
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,199
lot of ways. It is a
workplace drama with a tortured white man at

487
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,039
the center of it who has a
female that he's mentoring. You know,

488
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,679
there's a woman that he's mentoring who
looks up to him. So there's a

489
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,800
very you know, because he and
what's Aoadebris's character's name, they have a

490
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,280
Sidney. Yeah, Carmei and Sydney
have a Don and Peggy thing. People

491
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,039
keep talking about out the two of
them as some sort of romantic There's nothing

492
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:08,800
nothing romantic between the two of them. Anyway. I'll stop there. We're

493
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:15,960
gonna get into real stuff. We're
not gonna spoil the entire season. We're

494
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,519
just gonna talk like, uh,
well, there's no major plot turns,

495
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:24,679
nobody dies or anything like that or
no. I won't get into the final

496
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,119
but we'll talk a little bit about
it. Yeah, I just I want

497
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:34,599
to say that season one blew my
mind the same it was. I thought

498
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,079
it was fresh, real, something
different that we hadn't seen on TV.

499
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:42,840
My father had a restaurant at some
point in our lives, and it was

500
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,719
chaotic as hell. It was just
kind of like that, you know,

501
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:49,039
drama strats. Oh my god,
we're gonna be able to make it,

502
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,199
you know, do we have the
right ingredients? I mean, now we

503
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,639
what are we missing? You know? All that was real. I hated

504
00:36:54,679 --> 00:37:00,199
it, absolutely hated so that was
interesting to watch. Didn't mind so much

505
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,599
in season one all the fighting,
fighting, all the yelling and all that,

506
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:07,480
because I was like, all right, it's part of the thing here,

507
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:13,159
right, stress, everyone is trying
to make it. Season two.

508
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Didn't love it so much, but
it was okay. Bork's the episode with

509
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,719
cousin Ritchie last season honestly is one
of the best episodes of television I've ever

510
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,440
seen. That is top of the
line. I fell in love with him,

511
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,639
that character, the actor, everybody
was just amazing. That last season

512
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,760
was the high point. I know
everybody talks about seven Fishes, which is

513
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,639
the Oh god, No, I
did not love that episode. I didn't.

514
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,360
I think it lacked the subtlety that
the show had been trading in up

515
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,239
until that point. Anyway, going
back to yeah, so I but so

516
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,239
I didn't read anything because I'm trying
to do that and then just watch and

517
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,639
you know, get a real reaction. So I just felt that, you

518
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,159
know, I jokely said to Tom, I was like, well, it

519
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:05,199
feels like the greatest hits here of
season one and two. Well knew the

520
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,320
first episode felt like an MTV video. It was a forty minute montage with

521
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,000
almost no dialogue. And this is
what I mean about the season going up

522
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:20,079
its own ass, getting very self
indulgent. Like, Okay, I I

523
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:23,280
don't look, I don't mind formal
experiments on television. If you want to

524
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,800
do an entire montage episode, or
you want to do an entire episode without

525
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,840
a dialogue or whatever, that's fine. I don't mind any of that.

526
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,719
But as you noted, it was
all just rehashing stuff that that whole montage.

527
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,599
I was like, okay, there
were little bits and pieces in there,

528
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,840
but it was all stuff we already
knew, right. I think the

529
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,960
show people were so hungry for more, right that, to me, that

530
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,800
first episode was a major disappointment.
I was like, Why am I looking

531
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,199
at all this stuff that I've already
watched. I want something new. They

532
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,039
were putting new scenes in it,
but they were so irrepetitive and they weren't

533
00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:00,639
telling you anything, right, So
I just hated that people thought it was

534
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,280
divine and wonderful, you know,
because people do like to I don't know

535
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,199
over what what both people like to
do over pray things. I don't know,

536
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:17,159
but I think two. I mean, the show became such a huge

537
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:23,280
success, and there's always a that's
usually is a problem, I think because

538
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,079
the creators get I don't know,
I don't know, they get too big.

539
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:31,480
Everybody gets too big, and they
just forget the essence of what the

540
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,920
show became, why the show became
so you know, popular and interesting and

541
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,760
so on. So the first episode
was a major disappointment. I was like,

542
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,519
well, why am I watching this? It's like thirty minutes of nothing.

543
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,920
And then the second episode was a
thirty minute argument in the kitchen,

544
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:52,039
and I was like, okay,
okay, but again, I understand that's

545
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,639
how these characters act, that's what
the show is. I'm not upset that

546
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:59,480
there was another argument in the kitchen, but it was just right. It

547
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,760
was just people yelling fuck you at
each other for thirty minutes. Right,

548
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,599
that's the thing. I don't mind
the fuck you because you know, the

549
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,440
F word is actually one of my
favorite words, but I choose when to

550
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:15,559
use it. And I feel like
the show is just dropping fuck you everywhere.

551
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,119
I mean, people talk like that, no, but there are certain

552
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:22,239
moments that I mean it, I
don't understand why. Well, that's the

553
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,239
thing. It's to amend my point. People do talk like that, but

554
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,719
you need more than that in dialogue. You need you know, you need

555
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,079
to progress. There needs to be
a point if people are just yelling fuck

556
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,360
you at each other. And there
was a point where KRMEI and Richie were

557
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:39,280
just yelling fuck you's back and forth
for like several minutes. This is not

558
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,039
entertaining, it's not illuminating, it's
not moving the story forward. It's not

559
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:47,440
funny. So why are we doing
this. It's a scene where he's serving

560
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,280
the customers and they're in the kitchen
and the whole fuck you back and forth.

561
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,719
I was like, there's no way
you'd you'd be allowed to act in

562
00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:00,559
arrest and with your uh you know, with people there, you just can't

563
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:04,480
can't. They were right by the
door. Yeah, I'm screaming, and

564
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,159
I'm just like, how is that
accepted for you? I mean, you're

565
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,199
trying to make a business work here, you know, it's just trying to

566
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:15,400
be successful. I don't. And
that's creator's decision that drives me crazy.

567
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,480
Let's make this interesting, let make
this you know, I don't know whatever.

568
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,159
Let's just have people yelling at each
other the entire time. I and

569
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,400
for someone watching the show as a
viewer, it gets to a point where

570
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,199
you can't take it anymore. It's
just like I said, it's not doing

571
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,880
anything. It's just noise. At
this point. You're not revealing anything about

572
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,599
the characters. You're not moving the
story forward. It's not even funny.

573
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,320
It's just repetitive. Beyond repetitive.
It's sort of like the Fact Brothers.

574
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:49,960
Oh my god, I wanted to
punch my TV. I mean, they

575
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,599
took these peripheral characters who were funny
in small doses and then kept giving them

576
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:01,880
scene after scene after scene pitty stupidity, and it wasn't fine. No,

577
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,800
it's funny for a second, but
if you keep going back to it,

578
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,039
it's not funny. And then they
bring in John Cena as their other brother,

579
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,920
and that's when the entire season fell
flat on its face. For me,

580
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:16,800
I was holding on to that point
and then when that happened, I

581
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,159
was like, oh, no,
you've really lost it. Number one.

582
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,880
I guess the joke is here.
You've got these two schlubby, fat guys

583
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,039
and then there's this big muscle guy
who's supposed to be his brother. Is

584
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,280
that the joke? Well, it
took me right out of the story right

585
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,320
out. Well, first off,
that's John Cena, Like there's it was

586
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,519
John Cena in that scene. Like
it did not feel like the the third

587
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:43,920
fact brother showed up. It feels
like John's felt like John Cena just walked

588
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,320
into the restaurant. It's just it
was I mean, yeah, like the

589
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,239
scene when when the brothers are together
and the photography is taking pictures and the

590
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,199
way they're acting, that's the John
Cena scene. Yeah, yeah, No,

591
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,519
they had there's another one. Yeah, there was more than anyway.

592
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,719
My point is that there's no way
you allow people to behave in front of

593
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,280
someone who came to photograph the plays. Professional walks in to take pictures and

594
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,719
first of all, are you right
there in the middle of the shot.

595
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:15,039
No, no, absolutely not.
I mean yeah, I mean, come

596
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,400
on, yeah. I tried to
be open about these things. But at

597
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,519
the same time, I'm like,
all right, I can't take more of

598
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:24,519
the yelling here. I can't.
I just can't. I am larger.

599
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:28,000
I mean, I don't want to
make it sound like the yelling was what

600
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,400
bothered me this season, because the
yelling is the point, like that,

601
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,480
you don't get into the Bear unless
you understand that it is about that yelling.

602
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,039
But for me, it never went
anywhere. When you think about that

603
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:44,079
second episode, which was the non
Negotiables, when Krmi wrote out that list,

604
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,880
and he's writing out this stuff which
sounds completely crazy, right, and

605
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,639
everybody who looked at it says,
Okay, this is completely crazy. So

606
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,519
I thought the story of the season
was going to be everyone getting Karmi to

607
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:04,480
understand that his obsession with excellence and
all that other stuff is crazy talk and

608
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,760
you should just worry about making good
food. But they never actually got to

609
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:15,159
that point. In fact, his
obsession with excellence was still being playing out

610
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:19,719
in the finale, which I will
not get into reasons why, but his

611
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,559
his you know, his wounds and
his scars and everything, and I get

612
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:30,079
it. The point partial point of
this season was to show that CARMEI is

613
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,119
perpetuating a lot of bad behavior,
like he had a terrible childhood and a

614
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,599
terrible mother apparently I don't know what
his father's experience, and then he had

615
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:45,199
these horrible where he was abused.
And that's the point of Olivia Coleman's characters

616
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,440
when she comes in, it's to
show you a different way. There is

617
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,159
a way of doing this thing without
being an asshole. And I thought that

618
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,039
was going to be the lesson he
learned, but that's not where we got

619
00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:00,000
to. I mean, you know, characters don't have to learn lessons,

620
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:04,239
but there has to be a point
to stories, and I just didn't get

621
00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:07,320
what was the point to any of
this? Right, Well, season three

622
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,360
and four were shot together, so
we're going to get more of all of

623
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,400
this. We'll get more resolution.
That's kind of why this season does not

624
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,239
feel like a resolution, you know, it just does last season. The

625
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,119
previous two seasons, when you got
to the end of the season, you've

626
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,679
felt like that season had told a
full story, right because the end of

627
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:30,440
season two was you know, the
Bear finally opens the new restaurant and everyone

628
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,079
had spent that entire season. Every
cast member had stories about how they were

629
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:39,320
trying to improve themselves. So that
was the you know, the story of

630
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:45,079
last season was about people making something
better of their lives, and I guess

631
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,639
we could say the story of this
season was about people being stuck in their

632
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:53,440
own you know, bad behavior,
you know that sort of thing, And

633
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,880
there is something to be said about
that when you look at a character like

634
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,840
Ritchie Cousin Ritchie, like I said, for it's last season, Oh my

635
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,400
god, that was such an amazing
episode of television. However, it would

636
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,960
have been unrealistic if a man who
had spent his entire life fucking up and

637
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,039
being a jerky would change, would
changed that much. So we did see

638
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,920
and it's the same thing with Krmie, Like, yes, he got his

639
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:21,800
dream came true at the end of
season two, but obviously he's still the

640
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,199
same person. Yeah, all of
that's good, feel true. Yeah,

641
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:29,199
all that's good, All of that
feels true. But it was still a

642
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:35,519
meandering mess of just watching miserable people
over and over again. Let's talk about

643
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:42,400
specific episodes. Go ahead, Yeah, Sugar, Yeah, I'm Sugar and

644
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,960
her mom Jamie Lee Curtis. They
did a whole two hander with just them

645
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:52,039
while Sugar was in labor, and
there were some really good moments in that

646
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:55,840
episode. And I actually think Jamie
Lee was better in this one than she

647
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:00,360
was in the one last year.
Well that's crazy. Well that's just it.

648
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,079
But I think it's more interesting for
an actor to have to play someone

649
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,719
who is mentally unstable but trying their
damn just to hold it together than someone

650
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:15,360
who's just screaming her head off.
And there was that moment where where she

651
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:21,159
admits to her daughter that she's trying, and the amount of pain in her

652
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:23,559
face and voice. I was like, all right, Jamie Lee, you're

653
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:28,480
nail. She is a fantastic she
is fantastic, but she needs to dial

654
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:31,320
that character back and she did.
That's that Episodeeah. I love Sugar.

655
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,920
I think she's one of the healthiest
people on the show, and subsequently she's

656
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,920
one of the saddest people on the
show. I thought that episode was good.

657
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:46,480
It just could have edited about ten
minutes out of it because it was

658
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:52,440
so repetitive. It was way too
long. And I yeah, I mean,

659
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:54,800
like you said, great moments he
in there, but a whole episode

660
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,960
about those two just close up of
those two for forty minutes. Now,

661
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,800
that was just a little bit too
much because they were saying the same things

662
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,400
over and over again. And Sugar
is a great character, Abby Elliott,

663
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:12,320
she she's doing a great job.
So I'm glad they gave her more stuff

664
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,119
too, And that was I love
her husband, Pete, Oh my god,

665
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,800
sweetest guy. And it really says
something that everybody in that kitchen can't

666
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,960
stand Pete and he's the only one
who's emotionally healthy, and that's why they

667
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,360
can't stand it, because they're all
so fucked up. Right. The other

668
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,000
thing I want to say is that
I'm I was actually happy to see is

669
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,239
that Ao. It's she is a
fantastic actress. They did not use her

670
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,159
well, she didn't use her well, but whatever they gave her, she

671
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,679
so she's still great. She's still
great. She's still great. Can we

672
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:45,280
get less fucking close up a Karmie
staring off in the distance, like Jesus.

673
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:49,719
There were so many they really pulled
it don Draper this season where they

674
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,079
really felt like, oh, well, the most fascinating character in the show

675
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:55,360
is the white guy at the center
of it. And actually that's not true.

676
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,760
That's not true. Can I just
say, speaking of which this might

677
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,960
get into I never notice it until
this season. The Bear is known for

678
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,440
its needle drops. It has these
great soundtracks, and it uses music very,

679
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:13,159
very effectively. But when I think
of The Bear, when I think

680
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:16,199
of the cast, when I think
of who works in that kitchen, I

681
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:21,960
think of the diversity of that kitchen. Okay, but the only music the

682
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,280
show ever plays is white guy rock, and it's usually dated white guy rock.

683
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,599
It's not. In other words,
it's music that nobody in that kitchen,

684
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:35,000
with the exception of maybe Richie,
nobody else in that kitchen listens to

685
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:38,840
that music. And it just when
I look at Chicago and they have all

686
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,599
these beautiful scenes of Chicago, and
they clearly love paying homage to the working

687
00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:49,360
people, to people who prepare food
and that sort of thing. Again,

688
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,719
I think of rap music, I
think of sales music. I think of

689
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,840
all the different sounds of music,
Middle Eastern, you know what I mean.

690
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,199
Like, that's right, that's what
a city sounds like. A this

691
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,639
like pearl jam, rolling stone stuff. I'm like, yeah, okay,

692
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,480
but you're showing me a city,
and you're showing me a class of people.

693
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:12,559
And you know what I don't think
that class of people are listening to

694
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,960
Pearl Jam as much as you are, mister producer. I know exactly.

695
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:20,440
That's the thing. It's it's just
and maybe that's a minor point, but

696
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:24,400
it did sort of get into It
does sort of get into my point about

697
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,239
how the show was just up its
own ass a little too much, because

698
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,840
if it was really trying to paint
a picture of these people's lives, what

699
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,679
kind of music do you think Tina's
listening to. She's not listening to the

700
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,760
Beastie Boys. She's listening to like
salsa most likely. Now let's talk about

701
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:44,760
Tena's APIs lots of colognes. My
god, I fell in love with her

702
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,320
in season one right because, oh
my god, what a great character archy.

703
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,960
She was unlikable from the second you
met her because she didn't like any

704
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,559
of the changes, and she could
be a bitch and then you you just

705
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:00,880
slowly see her own insecurities and everything, and ah, just a great character

706
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:07,239
arc, great development. Yeah,
and her role. I just love how

707
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,599
well she is in in the She's
fantastic. Like when season one, I

708
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:13,960
have to be honest, I was
like, can she even act? I

709
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,400
mean, because they didn't give her
enough. She played a bitch, yeah,

710
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,440
but but you know most people can
play a bitch. But my point

711
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,079
is that I didn't see much.
But but now, oh my god,

712
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:28,960
I cry just looking at her,
like she gets all teered off and everything

713
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:34,599
when she told that kid fuck you. Behind the reception that. One of

714
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:37,840
the things I think the show can
get kind of silly about is that the

715
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,320
characters will we'll just sit around and
have these incredibly deep conversations in the middle

716
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,639
of a kitchen or something, and
you know most of us don't do that

717
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:52,320
during our work day. There was
a scene where it was Sugar and I

718
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,239
think it was the fact brothers Oh
and Karm talking about their legacy, and

719
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,760
at one point one of the characters
said, and what do you want your

720
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,960
legacy to be? And I was
people don't talk this way. People don't

721
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:07,079
have these conversations, right, But
every once in a while, those conversations

722
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:13,480
really those two hander scenes. So
the scene with John Burnhall and Liza Colonsais

723
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:20,800
where they meet for the first Jesus
Christ. Sometimes the dialogue got a little

724
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,679
dialogueis, yeah, I got a
little precious. But when the two of

725
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:30,119
them were talking about about people who
have plans and to know what they're going

726
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:31,840
to do with their life, and
like, with this complete sense of what

727
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,280
the fuck I got? You know, people who didn't make those plans,

728
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,719
people who are constantly on their back
foot trying to figure out their lives and

729
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,000
figure out the world. And I'll
just say, without being too precious about

730
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:47,039
it, I got it in that
moment. There were things that they said

731
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:50,800
during that scene that I was like, oh, yeah, I felt that

732
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,199
way. Yeah, I did feel
that way. My favorite moment is when

733
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,480
she talked about these young kids and
that's it and they know what they're doing.

734
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,960
And I love her for not saying
all those idiots does more and she

735
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,679
said I was jealous. I love
that that she's real about it and says,

736
00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:09,840
you know, I'm jealous. Jealous? Yeah, because I used to

737
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,719
be like that. Not anymore.
I mean, that was that scene.

738
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:19,400
That scene almost made the entire season
for me, but it wasn't enough.

739
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:23,800
I will say the one thing I
whatever, maybe this is my shalon is

740
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,719
coming through, but John Burnhal is
probably a little too good looking in Studley

741
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,679
to play such a loser, you
know what I mean. It's not that

742
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,000
good looking people can't be losers or
whatever. But when he was talking to

743
00:53:36,039 --> 00:53:40,079
her about Carmi and everything and about
people who know what they're doing, I'm

744
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:44,280
like, I don't know, I
think I would find this more believable coming

745
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,719
out of Karme's mouth or or or
while a fact brother's mouth or whatever.

746
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,800
But that's the beauty of Eliza Cologne's
zias is. I mean, she really

747
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,559
makes that character live and breathe.
I also liked that they did a little

748
00:53:55,559 --> 00:54:00,039
bit with Marcus and his mother not
enough, not enough, yeah, but

749
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,800
some you know, which was great. They went to his mother's unal and

750
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,519
all that. That was great,
great to see. I think Marcus and

751
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:13,199
Sydney should be hooking up at not
Sydney and farm farm and I was waiting

752
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:15,920
for that moment when they were gonna
kiss or something. Yeah side and krm,

753
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:20,159
yeah, I don't know, no, no, but anyway, I

754
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,760
Yeah, a few moments that I
really loved, especially Tina. My god,

755
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,719
Tina was just perfect. Yeah.
I would love to see Eliza Colinsayes

756
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:34,239
get a non nomination for this.
That episode and Aoadbris directed that episode,

757
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,800
and it was actually very beautifully I
was I was watching that and I was

758
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,199
like, oh wow, she directed
that I just you know, without going

759
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:45,679
into it, and you know that
there's nothing We've all many of us have

760
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,320
had those moments. But I have
been there with a stack of resumes in

761
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,119
my hands. I'm wondering what the
fuck I was dealing with my life.

762
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,559
And like when she walks, God
walks up to that office building, I

763
00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:00,559
know, and it just looms over
her. Yes, yes, just beautifully

764
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:06,960
done. Everything, the way people
treated her rare, everything that say television

765
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,559
gets that level of hopelessness, across
that level of despair. She was phenomenal.

766
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:15,519
She really was. She was phenomenal. It's the greatest moment of the

767
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,199
season three. I think, Yes, now I'm gonna I'm sorry, go

768
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,079
ahead, No, that's it.
I mean overall disappointed. I was expecting

769
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:29,880
more new stuff, not you know, old scenes over and oh every single

770
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:35,239
Yeah, I want to talk about
the thing that I just lost it,

771
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,119
just lost it, and it is
in the last episode. But this isn't

772
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:43,239
really a spoiler. The last episode
is forty some minutes long, and at

773
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,480
least twenty five minutes is real life
chefs talking about how incredible they are,

774
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,119
and all through the season, in
various flashbacks and stuff, they were using

775
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,519
real life chefs to come in so
that to show the KARMI was trained by,

776
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:06,559
like Daniel Blute or whatever. I
was okay with those scenes, you

777
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:08,519
know, the little flashback scenes,
and you had these little culinary you know,

778
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:12,840
superstars in the background or whatever.
None of those people can act,

779
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,199
but they weren't. It was fine. Right then they got to the the

780
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,159
guy from what is it laundry or
whatever, the restaurant who taught him how

781
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:24,559
to tie a chicken, to trust
a chicken. I forget who his name

782
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,920
is, and I was like,
all right, this is going on way

783
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,400
too fucking long, okay, And
then we go to the funeral dinner nobody

784
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,920
died, and it's just twenty minutes
of all of these and I recognized some

785
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,960
of them. I don't follow the
culinary world, although, but it was

786
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:46,800
very clear that these people were famous
because they were not actors. And it

787
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:52,360
was twenty minutes of them talking about
their best dish or their worst dish,

788
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,320
or this or that or the other, and I was like, what the

789
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:57,519
actual fuck? I am here for
the drama. I'm not here for a

790
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:01,559
documentary about chefs. And it got
so when they started talking about the nobility

791
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,679
of their profession. I was like, all right, this and I agree

792
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,000
being a chef is a noble profession, but you are all sounding insanely pretentious

793
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:13,719
to me right now. Yeah.
No, I was just gonna say,

794
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,719
when they're all together talking about,
you know, how wonderful they are,

795
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,760
how wonderful they are, their experiences
and everything, all I felt was like,

796
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,159
all right, this is like dinner
with the Store. It didn't got

797
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:25,679
sucked. Yeah, he didn't feel
like a show. It didn't feel like

798
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,360
a season, you know, it
felt it felt like it felt like season

799
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:37,039
three to me, except for the
Fatina's moment. Felt like it they're paying

800
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:40,199
homage to a show that became very
successful. Yeah. It was like a

801
00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:44,639
clip show. Yeah, season long
clip show about how great they are when

802
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:46,599
you buy the DVDs and you get
the extra scenes or the you know,

803
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:52,079
the commentary. I don't know,
I don't know. It just felt like,

804
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,440
Okay, this show was amazing,
and I'm going to show you how

805
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:02,360
amazing it is, and you know
it's it's got a great cast, and

806
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:07,239
I will be back for season four, and I believe they have season five

807
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:13,320
seasons planned, but it is I
would not call season three of The Bear

808
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,920
and one of the better shows on
television at the moment. I mean,

809
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,480
at the season one and two,
it was all prestige, prestige, prestige,

810
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:23,280
right, And I just don't feel
that this is at the level of

811
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,800
a prestige show because the acting is
good, but I didn't think the writing

812
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,559
was very good at all, and
the directing was so self indulgent that I

813
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:34,719
there were just too many things wrong
with this season. I think they relied

814
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,320
too much on the guest stars,
relied too much on the montage and the

815
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,039
montage and the needle drops. See, like I said, pay homage to

816
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,880
a great show. But there,
Well, right, but let's move on

817
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:49,639
with the story. Yeah, I
mean I want yeah, it just yeah,

818
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,639
it felt like a season for fans. Yeah, but I mean I

819
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:55,800
would love it. You know,
strip the season, strip the montages,

820
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,400
strip the needle drops out of it, Strip all the guest stars and the

821
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,800
culinary stars out of it, and
just tell the Freggin's story. There was

822
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:10,880
so much crap thrown outto this season
that there was no story. We'll see.

823
00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:15,960
Yeah, I do enjoy watching this
cast. There were moments that really

824
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:24,840
really really affected me emotionally. Marcus
dealing with his mother's death was one Liza,

825
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:30,840
I mean Tina. And what's the
brother's name? Which one John Burnthal?

826
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:35,360
Mikey, Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you said his name

827
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,519
earlier, that's all. Oh,
Michael, Yes, yeah. I thought

828
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:42,119
their scenes were great together, but
you know, it just didn't pull together.

829
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,239
No, I agree, I agree. Yeah. Reviews in general are

830
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,039
mixed. You know, people will
love to show no matter what, and

831
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:52,360
I think that's the problem here.
But you know, it's still a great

832
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,880
show. It's just I don't know, he felt like went down a little

833
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:00,800
this season. Yeah, right,
let us know what you thought of everything

834
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,400
we reviewed today, and we'll be
back. Well, we'll be back next

835
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,480
week. Next week is July fourth. We might not be back next week

836
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:12,320
because no one downloads podcasts on so
we'll be back the week after that with

837
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,920
whatever crosses our eyes across the desk. Until then, take care of your

838
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:31,800
selves, love you mean it.
Bye bye bye,