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today we have a special guests,
Doctor Herbert. He's gonna be here with

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us, so you may hear us
referred to him as doctor Harris. He

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is coming to discuss the Twelve Laws
of Success and some other things that we're

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going to talk about today. So
doctor Herbert, please introduce yourself to our

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audience. Oh, thank you so
much for having me. It's doctor Herbert

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Harris coming to you from North Carolina. I am a tyed to turn in

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the twelve the Universal Laws of Success
and other books and just honored to be

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here. It's great to know what
everyday black men are talking about. Wonderful,

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wonderful, wonderful. But thank you
so much for taking time out of

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your day for us. We refinitely
appreciate that here with everydy black man,

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Doctor Herbert, I wanted to know
more about your law degreen kind of some

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of the things that you saw.
I know, in the legal field,

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sometimes black men don't have as nice
relationship with law as they'd like to.

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But what did you see during the
time that you practice? You know,

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money is always the key, you
know, justice and America is about how

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much money can do you have finance
your own your own vindication. That's pretty

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like that. So what is definitely
true and I'm sure it's true for most

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poor people, but if you don't
have the money to hire a competent lawyer,

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and justice may not come to you
in proper fashion. From a Black

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perspective, very often many of our
folks don't have the money and have to

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rely on legal aid and you know
other paid for representation. And the challenge

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that that is the legal aid folks
are paid for paid by the same folks

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that you know pay the district attorneys. Pretty much that's coming out of public

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funds. So I won't say that
they're not independent, but I'm just saying

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that many of the legal aid lawyers
are overworked, and it's just a when

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you look at the case load,
it's like I just can't of a client

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that type of attention that their case
may warrant. And then you know,

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the court system embraces all the prejudices
that exist in America. You know,

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so a white, young white kid
would come before a judge and a white

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judge and there's a good possibility,
you know, judge look at him and

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you'll see a certain similarity, and
the judge may take an attitude of let's

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give him another chance. And a
black kid will come before the same judge,

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and based on that whole paradigm of
America, the judge may say,

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hey, let's teach this kid a
lesson. So all of those things are

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together in judicial In the judicial system, one of the key things is money.

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Have the money to represent high competent
counsel. That is probably the most

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important thing of all. Excellent,
thank you, I really appreciate. Oh

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New York New r Wow. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure you saw a

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lot up there. You know,
the New York law can be one of

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our most tricky just because you've got
so many people living in one state,

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You've got a lot of different Oh
yeah, oh yeah, a lot going

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on in the economy. So he
also mentioned that you write. You wrote

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a books. He said, what
made you want to go into that field.

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I've always been a writer. I
a writer and a teacher, and

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I wrote the book my most I've
written a number of books. My first

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book was actually written some time ago
as a book called how to Make Money

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in Music, because I was in
the music industry for a good number of

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years. And I've written a couple
of other books in between. But my

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most popular book is a book of
the twelve Universal Laws of Success, and

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that one has been through over three
hundred printings and about nine languages, and

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it's been a transformative book many of
the young people and older people, people

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who are interested in creating a new
life for themselves and want to avoid the

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pitfalls. Twelve the Universal Laws of
Success is the book for you, people

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who've been through life and maybe even
at that retirement age, and who are

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wondering what to do with the rest
of their lives. Tweld universal laws and

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successes for them also. So the
premise of the book is it living is

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a skill. Success is a skill. You have to learn, practice and

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master that skill to give yourself the
rest opportunity to create the life you want.

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That was an interesting workle You didn't
I didn't have any idea that you

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did music. A lot of those
who are former artists are current artists with

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music, and that's interesting. What
in music did you participate in, like

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what I spect of it? Was
it the legal side or or you're an

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actual musician. Oh, I actually
played. I play now play guitar and

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play piano. I played the apollo
and I worked in the old days.

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My office was in the same building
with the eys Lip Brothers Buddha Records,

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Little Richard, sixteen fifty Broadway in
New York. That was that was the

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spot for music and then the air
when people were running into a record company

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and play a song on the piano
and the producer would say, hey,

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man, let's go ahead the studio
and work. I have a couple of

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records that were decent hits, a
group called the Finishing Touch and the Top

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Shelf. We also had group we
co produced out of the Groove. You

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know when they hold Kenny Gamble and
Leon Huff and that whole group. This

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is the air like the seventies of
music before before hip hop. I was

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a matter of fact, I knew
the Furious Five, one of the early

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rap groups, and the actual DJ
Hollywood and he started out on Wednesday nights

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damning at the Apollo Theater. So
I've been around in music from the old

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days added up to the present.
That's cool. I was watching a documentary

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recently with a lot of documentary.
It was just a couple of interviews with

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Lionel Richie what's the other guy's name, I can't think of his name.

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That to the fruity guy, Hastle, Richard, Richard Fruity or Rudy.

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Yeah. Yeah, we're talking about
like light standing people in and like music

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back then and like the different things
that. It was a weird documentary offshoot.

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But that's interesting. Uh before hip
hop? Wow? So you mentioned

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your recent book, What are something
to take away? As you would like?

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People don't know one of the key
things. The first chapter of the

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book he deal with the topic of
how to study, and most people never

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really learned how to study. How
to really approach your book or an article

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or anything you want to learn.
And so we actually give a systematic approach.

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We call it SQ three R study
method survey the material. You may

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be reading an article, a book, even taking a class. A survey

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is s Q is set up certain
questions. So if you survey an article,

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you know that you're reading an article
about let's just say cars, and

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so ask what questions you think that
article is going to answer about cars?

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And then our one is to read
it, our two is to review it,

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and our three is to recite it. The part of that technique is

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to develop competence. You know,
in this age, people can google stuff.

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So you ask a personal question,
they'll google it and give you the

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answer and going about their weight,
but they may or may not retain it

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in their minds. They'll just google
it again and they want to know again.

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So that's one of the key points
of how to study. And then

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we deal with the laws of success, how to how to use the laws

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to work for you. For example, the law the first law of success

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is the law of thought, and
it's a scriptural basis says, as a

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man thinketh in his heart, so
as he So we teach people that you

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need to have positive thoughts. Whatever
you think and you feel about that thought,

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that has a vibration to manifest in
your life. So if you think

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bad things, if you think lack
and limitation, you think, oh how

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bad it is, and you say
it with such feeling that yeah, man,

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it's really bad. I'm busted,
disgusted and can't be trusted. Then

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that becomes your reality. But then
if you change your thinking and say,

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hey, man, I'm prosperous,
I'm good looking, I have a lot

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of energy, i have great potential, I'm going to do good things in

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the world, that gives you a
whole nother vibration. So the law thought,

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and we go through the law the
man three laws, the law thought,

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how you think, the law of
change that you can change your life

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by changing your thinking. If you
think a new thought, you can create

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a new reality. And then the
third law is the law of vision,

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that if you can see it,
you can be it. And you know,

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one of the things about the early
music industry, so many of those

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guys just wanted to sing. You
go back to the days of Frankie Lyman,

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the Rhinetts, the the I mean, these are groups I'm sure be

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before your time. But these are
folks that sold millions of records, and

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their thoughts that was they just wanted
to sing. They just wanted to sing.

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And they never made the money that
the rappers make today because the rappers

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came through a new mindset when the
when the music industry did not embrace them,

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they said, well, let's create
our own. I know, if

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you remember back in the really back
in the late nineties early eighties had street

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music. The record companies wouldn't buy
the lay records and the radio stations wouldn't

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play I Am. So that you
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the country and they could literally break
a record right in the different clubs,

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and that gave the music industry a
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so when the rappers came through from
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Five and the actual real DJ Hollywood, when those guys came through, they

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had a different paradigm the record with
working with the record companies. The older

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artists thought that they could the record
company was everything. If you don't have

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a record, you're never gonna make
any money. The new artists, the

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rappers say hey, we got the
goods, and so it's just a different

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mindset. And then that law vision, if you can see it, you

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can be it. So many times
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We see ourselves we may be broke, and so you don't have to

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see yourself broke. If you broke, that's your condition, but that's not

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your potential. So you can see
yourself rich. You can see yourself prosperous.

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And once you see the vision,
you can set goals to take you

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there. Once you set goals,
you can make a plan to execute those

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goals. And if you follow through
and don't quit, you can be a

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Tyler Perry, you can be a
Beyonce, you can be anybody who wants

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to create success in their lives.
Back, no problem. Hey, I

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do have a question. You said
something about the idea of positive thinking.

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Let me ask you a question.
So that's like a common trope amongst like

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anyone who says, you know,
positive thinking can change your world. But

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you know, let's say you're a
kid growing up in the inner cities of

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Houston and you have to go to
a terrible school every day, and like,

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when does that positive thinking end?
Where you're just like man this life

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sucks. I feel like they tell
you often now that you can change your

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life whenever you want, just positive
thinking, and you're just like, dude,

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I'm hungry. I can't positively think
anything while I'm hungry. So how

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would you recommend it in that situation, you know, change their life?

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Well, I guess we're talking about
adults right now. Right, So let's

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say you are nine to five and
you are working what they call it paycheck

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to paycheck. You got more a
month at the end of the money,

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correct, the end of the money. You know, you got more a

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month at the end of the money. So you got twenty five days worth

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of life. Twenty five days worth
the money and thirty days worth of life.

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Oh, okay, you're gonna have
You don't have this down or no

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one. I know. He said
it perfectly. He said it perfectly.

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He's saying, I have this amount
of resources, and you got this amount

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of time, and your resources that
match the time you have. Okay,

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you run out of money, I
mean many of us have. You know,

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you may be making that thousand dollars
a week, that's like four thousand

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dollars a month, but if your
expenses are five thousand dollars a month or

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five. Yeah, at the end
of the month, you run out of

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money. You run out of money
in the third week of the month,

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and so from that point on you
have to finance your life on credit cards,

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borrow money, and do some outside
side hustling. So effectively do you

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think do you think people are poor
because they run out of money or are

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they poor because they make poor decisions? Well, you know, money is

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just like a way to keep score. Poverty. Poor can be a mindset.

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Poor can be assing over opportunities repeatedly. Bad. Yeah, assing over

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opportunities repeatedly. I can keep you
poor. You can be the working poort.

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Like I said, poor, It's
just it was a mindset. The

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amount of money you have is just
as this, like a state of funds.

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It's like your your bank account.
Maybe a great person that's one thing

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that's your mindset, which you have
in your bank is something different. Question

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you asked about the positive thinking.
I want to just get back to that

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because that's a profound tool. How
do you think flex where you're going?

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But a positive thought, a thought
is like a seed. Okay, it's

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not enough just to have the thought
at seed. You know when they had

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a chance to go to Egypt,
and I went in King tuts tomb.

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When they opened King tuts Tomb after
three thousand years, found seeds, those

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same seeds, and they took them
and put them in good soil and put

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water on them. They would grow. A positive thinking is like a seed.

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For you to really benefit from it, it has to put be put

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in the proper soil, example,
the soil of somebody who cares about you.

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You know, when I talked to
a lot of young people, I've

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taught in some of the middle schools
and we brought our program, our book

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and whatnot into the middle schools and
the high schools. And one of the

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things we find is that I can
give you a positive thought of potential what

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you can be. But if you
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counselor if you don't have somebody who
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position to help you move to the
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be challenging. You remember in the
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y'all did you all see that movie? Yeah, Denzel, yeah, yeah,

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when he was in school and he
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a lawyer. She said, oh
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like you need to be a mechanic. You need to learn how to do

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something with your hands. So he
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negative environment. You imagine how his
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he had a teacher that said,
man, that's a good idea. Your

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vertality. You were ell spoken here, Let me help you. Let me

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let me you need to be taken
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class, and maybe your family is
poor. Let me see what kind of

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recesses I can get to help you
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true potential. So it's not just
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the fertility of the environment in which
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either bring the fraud the thought into
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bed. Okay, all right,
So you also mentioned, um, what

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was the other thing? And in
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one? And yeah, sqr SQR
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review, read it, review it
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that, it made me think of
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ever heard of like google brain,
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tame things that they don't believe or
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can google it. Do you think
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is that just like how it is? Or is there a way to train

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yourself out of it? If you
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yeah, I'm the term because that's
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when people can google alway, they
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and so that the r said,
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in your own brain. You don't
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gotta go. You got the Google
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like any other muscle. Muhammad Ali
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do a good fight. If you
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sound like very braberant young men.
You may go to the gym and build

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your bodies up, but if you
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Simony. If you lose your ability
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you learn how to remember, but
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if you lose that ability to retain
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to remember. Dudele and I fear
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I agree with it. I just
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I guess, for lack a better
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them they see no real merit and
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Looking up is not knowledge. That's
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if you were dealing with someone,
sorry, I apologize, you just gonna

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just decap that off. One day
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like you go into a macdowns.
I was in a club in New York

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once and my daughter is a singer. She was performing and uh, I

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was ready to go. She finished
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bring me a check, but it
can bring me a check. So finally

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a lady comes up and she said, oh, sir, he said.

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She said, the computer's not working, Like, so what I want to

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leave? I said, just figure
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know how to figure it up.
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Okay, I got the menu.
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what's the tax rain, She's seven
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that's when I owe you. Let
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sir, we have a bunch of
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do that here? So I helped
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the machine went down, they had
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the basic arithmetic skills. And so
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the machines go down, then you
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Google brain, the answers you get
when you ask a queery Google where those

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answers coming from? In this age
today of out official intelligence and people doing

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be everything, pretty soon somebody can
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sense. It might even be bad
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if you don't have the ability to
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this guy said drink Arsenic, I
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can be, it can be real
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I definitely agree there they should have
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question for you. You said you
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about the biases and law, and
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Do you think that AI would serve
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person with biases? That is a
that's a powerful question, because biases were

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positive like biases were negative. A
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you stole the money, okay,
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and you're guilty, and there's no
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money in your shoe. Why did
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sick and needed medicine, because my
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judge with compassion might say, I'll
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give you probation okay. Or maybe
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those just being in the in the
judicial system, I've seen judges said,

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look a man, let me introduce
you to a work program, send you

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over the manpower. Okay. Let
me make a referral to so to services.

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You shouldn't be in here. This
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a man trying to feed his family. And I don't know that the computer

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can do that, So the biases
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say, he said, issue,
send him away forever. Well, I

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mean, okay, I start to
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do you think that the okay,
let's weigh the options of those biases,

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right? How often do the judge
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a person of color versus yeah,
if you're rich, right? So is

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it really benefiting us to have that
option to have like that? Are we

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just scared of the next level of
saying, hey, I'm or take myself

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out of this because I know that
I can't do this properly. And in

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my opinion watching different judge shows looking
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right, but I do think that
there is something broken in our legal structure

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and what's broken in it. I
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I think if you bring in an
AIDS right, then you can see,

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hey, these laws are broken,
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and then we can start fixing the
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the system with these biases, I
don't think anything's gonna get fixed. Which

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is gonna be shuffling judges around like
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right to no avail. Well,
we really need to be fixing a broken

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system, right, and I think
that AI judges would help push that a

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little bit further. I just say
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programs how deficient intelligence does not come
from God. It comes from man programs

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with the different algorithms and the same
prejudices that people have in real life getting

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part right into the program. Yes, sure, it's something. It's something

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to think about that always. You
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that those programs can incorporate the same
biases that people just like you want to

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get a good judge, John a
good program or when it's somebody dealing with

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with people's lives and people's futures,
I feel like that's a candle stick burner

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on both ends situation. I don't
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means. It's it's it's accurate.
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as you said, if we can't
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accountable account that the person who's making
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if it's a group, may have
nefarious intent, then that could be taken

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as oh, it's a computer.
They only work within the confines they were

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given. They were given fair confines. So what you feel is unfair,

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it's not really unfair. That's just
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man. So if you if you
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this artificial feeling of absolution, that
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and it'll just give the people in
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the people that program set AI away
to control the system, and it may

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end up just creating the exact same
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You see, I don't know how
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not racist. Have been many judges
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at a young man and his potential, a look at a young woman her

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potential, and say, hey,
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me give you another shot. I've
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compassion is the thing that makes judges
in the human beings. When judges lose

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their compassion, than they act just
like computers. I don't know how to

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program compassion into the computer, and
I don't know how you can program compassion

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into AI and just this and deal
with the court system. It must have

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compassion. And if you don't have
compassion, then all that looks is the

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facts. You stole it, you
broke it, we caught you, and

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the sentence thing says twenty five delighte
goodbye. That's another question. It sounds

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like you just said that compassion or
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good court system. Would that be
me taking that out of context? You're

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absolutely right, a court system that's
without compassion is not a good court system.

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I just want a confirmation that what

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was in fact what you meant,
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look at the court system and this
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can talk if you will. But
if there was a way to measure or

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at least see without a shadow of
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judge was completely without compassion, do
you think that there is or should be

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a way to deal with that judge
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the game. Isn't know what I
mean? I always believe in review process

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nobody's person, nobody's perfect, and
nobody stays the same. You know,

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there a lot of people start out
right and when their conditions change in their

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life, they go wrong. They
start out on the right, they go

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left. So I think there should
be a review system judges, anybody in

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a position to deal with people's lives, people's freedom, It should always be

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some kind of oversight, you know, in the appellate courts. That's what

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the courts of appeals are all about, that that a judge can make a

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wrong decision. Hopefully you have a
lawyer who files a notice of appeal,

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the appeal to a case to a
bigger group. And if you notice,

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when you appeal cases, you go
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is designed to sort of take it
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Like I said, maybe that judge
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prejudice. Now you go to an
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reviews the judges. And so that
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court can review that judge's decision.
And you hear this decision was reversed.

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They sent it back for a new
trial. So that process is in place,

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but you know, I think it
can definitely be improved. Okay,

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So let's say that person got that
confession and I'm out and I get your

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book, you know, and it's
time to change my life because I was

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given a choice. What will be
the first steps you recommend for a person

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like that? That would just before
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change a lot. I'll tell you
a lot of my books. I did

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a workshop yesterday using the twelve.
My book is called the twelve Universal Laws

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of Success. Is on all the
platforms, so on my website Herbert Harris

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dot com. This book has been
very popular in prisons incarcerated persons, and

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so I've got a few letters on
my desk right now. When I wasn't

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a right, I sent him a
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And I just got a notice to
come and do some on digital ready

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called online training. But to just
show you how a young man who got

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the book in prison up and I
don't know what prison he was in,

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but the book turned his life around. Now he's very successful. He told

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a lady here in North Carolina about
the book. She saw an event right

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that I was speaking, so yesterday
she showed up at the workshop. And

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so with a person coming out a
prison, a person, let's just say,

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a person who needs to make a
big overhaul on their lives, a

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drastic change, then our book is
perfect for that because it's written on a

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very simple format. In other words, the book was written so that anybody

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can read it. You don't need
degreeds, you don't need a whole lot

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of education, And it's written in
a like a recipe book. You know,

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if somebody tell you go and make
a cake, start from scratch,

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most of us couldn't do it.
But if somebody say, here's a recipe,

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just follow the recipe, you can
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book the twelve Universal Laws of Successes. They often call it the recipe Book

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for success. So when people come
out, they can take that book,

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and that book tells Hayden, look
at your thoughts. There's a chapter on

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relationships. It says in relationships,
if you're coming out, you know,

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a returning citizen, and you need
to look at a new playground. You

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don't want to go back to the
same playground you will end where you got

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in trouble. You may want to
look at the new play mates that maybe

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some people that you need to cut
ties with because otherwise you're going back to

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prison. You need to look at
some new play things. You leave that

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coke alone, need these whatever.
And so when you come out with that

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mindset, then now you look at
the chapter on vision and says, hey,

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let's create a new vision for yourself. How do you want to see

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yourself you're coming out of You've been
in jail fifteen years. Where do you

415
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want to see yourself? Say,
man, I'd like to see myself in

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a job. I'd like to see
myself with a family. I'd sit and

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see make it. Whatever that vision
is, the book helps you formulate that

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vision so that now you can break
that vision down into goals. What's the

419
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first thing I gotta do, the
second thing I gotta do? And so

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that's why the book is so powerful
anybody who's looking to make a change in

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their lives, whether it's when you
might see a small change, I said,

422
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look, my life's going pretty good. I just need to make a

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few mid course corrections and I'll be
fine. A big change. I need

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to stop everything I'm doing, man, and do something different. This book

425
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can help be help you there.
I think everybody wants to make a change

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in their life. But oftentimes,
especially when you're young, do you think

427
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you have so much time and then
that time become less time and that time

428
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becomes less time? Doesn't work for
That's called procrastination. Do you think there's

429
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a time that's too late to change
your life or tomorrow's there's another opportunity.

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It's never too late. And Mary
Pickford was a silent movie before movies.

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I know this look way before your
your time, but there was an actors

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named Mary Pickford and she said this
said, you can never create a new

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beginning, but you can always create
a new ending anywhere you are right now,

434
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.839
you can always make a change.
Crastination. Now you just hit on

435
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something. Procrastination. It's one of
the things we deal with in the book

436
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because procrastination, how to overcome procrastination. Procrastination can steer your dreams. Procrastination

437
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can take you out so that you
don't get anything done. So we have

438
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a whole section on overcoming procrastination.
And I'm just going to touch a point

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with you from page one eighty eight
to see what I'm talking about. How

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a person can take this book and
says, how do you overcome procrastination.

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Number one. Realize that it's a
main cause of failure. Number two.

442
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Recognize that when you let procrastination take
over in your life, you waste time,

443
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.199
you lose money, or do this
going performs your misengagement, your life

444
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.280
slips away. If you want to
get around procrastination. Number three half a

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definite schedule. Stick to it.
You know, there's a reason why they

446
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.199
tell you to come to work nine
to five because it works. So if

447
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you want to change your life,
you need to have a definite schedule.

448
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You need to stick to it.
Number four. It says, make a

449
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list of the things you have to
do or the things you want to do,

450
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and set the time limit on when
these things should be done, how

451
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long they take. Number five.
Make a definite commitment to all always be

452
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on time. Number six. Planned
to handle one activity at a time.

453
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Number seven. If you're confronted with
complex activities, break them down into simple

454
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forms. Okay, I need I
need four thousand, eight hundred dollars by

455
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.400
the end of next year because otherwise
I got a problem. Well break it

456
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.440
down into twelve months. That means
you gotta make four hundred, you gotta

457
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.679
save four hundred dollars a year.
Break it down into the first month.

458
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There's four weeks. That meets you
gotta now save one hundred dollars a week.

459
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.960
Breaking down in the days, there's
five days. That means you gotta

460
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save twenty dollars a day. Now
you've taken a four thousand, eight hundred

461
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.920
dollars goal and broken it down.
So now the question is how do I

462
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:55.039
make twenty dollars a day extra and
on top of what I'm making sick and

463
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:58.920
set it aside. So that made
mean, hey, let me take a

464
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.320
little job here at wrong lines.
Let me let me do a little waitressing

465
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.440
job. I did a training for
some waitress and waitresses, and many of

466
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:12.760
them had other jobs. They said, they're doing that job because on the

467
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.559
weekend and a good restaurant they can
make two or three hundred thousand two days

468
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:22.000
and tips. Okay, And girl
said, I'm saving half of my tips

469
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.840
to take myself and get myself a
new place. So these are the kind

470
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.840
of things that we have in the
book. Back, That's what I said

471
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as I read that to you.
This is exactly how the book is written.

472
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Step by step. Do a do
b doc. Another one that says

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under overcoming procrastination. Do not let
the fear of criticism or the fear of

474
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failure cause you to be slow in
making decisions. Dog decide and then take

475
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action. Do it now. And
so you know, when you start making

476
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.239
a change in your life, your
friends are gonn the man you know,

477
00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:00.400
hang out with us anymore. You
know you used to be dying. Now

478
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.480
you're not cool. You don't want
to chill number okay, guys said,

479
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.400
well, hey, fine, I
don't want to chill anymore because I want

480
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.239
to move from point to eight to
point B. So don't let that bother

481
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.159
you. Even the fact you may
fail. Don't let that bother you.

482
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:21.480
Failure to address rehearsal for success.
Anybody who's not failing anything probably not doing

483
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:27.159
anything important. Back to you,
Yeah, so you mentioned you're on your

484
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.800
plan. You're doing it, You're
in it. So okay, so you're

485
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.599
doing it. But you say you
have a goal. But like you go

486
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.119
back to money where you started it
when it came to your profession as a

487
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:43.079
lawyer, Like, what do you
consider there's being rich and then there's wealthy.

488
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.400
What is wealthy? Is that to
the individual or how does that is

489
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.039
that explain? In your book.
In chapter eight we talk about the law

490
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of value. He said, there's
four things, and you operate in your

491
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life to create Number one it's called
the earning principle. The earning principle says

492
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.320
that you should make as much money
as you can doing what you do eagerly,

493
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.480
something with honor, but earn as
much as you can. Where you

494
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.599
earn more money is to have more
value. If you have more skills,

495
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.239
you can make more money. That's
one of the things that we'll cut across

496
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:23.239
racism. You know, the one
thing that the big world realizes. If

497
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:27.639
they can make money on what you
do, then they're gonna pay you that

498
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.719
money. And so number one is
the earning principle, to put yourself in

499
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a position to earn as much money
as possible. Number two is the spending

500
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:42.599
principle, to control your spending to
operate from a budget. A friend of

501
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.199
mine said, man, I ain't
making a two hundred dollars a week.

502
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.079
I don't need a budget. Yes
you do. You really need a budget

503
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.679
if you want to, because now
every penny counts. Then you have the

504
00:38:52.880 --> 00:39:00.400
saving strategy that earn as much as
you can spend this little that you have

505
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.719
to and save as much as possible. And the saving principle says, hey

506
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.719
save a hundred dollars, save a
ten dollars, say save something. And

507
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then the fourth is the investment principle. Once you learned the savings principle and

508
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you stash enough money to cover yourself
and maybe three months or six months now

509
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.039
you can take and start in investing. And so we deal with that.

510
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.320
You know, it's really a mindset. You know, a lot of people

511
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think you got to have a lot
of money. You can get a lot

512
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of money if you have a plan
to get it. You know, there

513
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.960
was a black woman down in Mississippi, and if you read her life,

514
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.960
you know it seemed like, I
mean, if you can take all the

515
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.960
terrible things that can happen to a
child, it happened to her or her

516
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:50.159
mother. And she became what you
call a washer woman in other ways,

517
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:54.280
she washed white people's clothes, white
people's sheets, and ironed them. She

518
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:58.920
did that for forty years. She
never made more than two hundred dollars a

519
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.920
week. But at the end of
that time, and she hit around seventy

520
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.599
five eighty years old, I think
she actually did that fifty years. They

521
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:12.000
looked at her bank account, and
this woman had hundreds of thousands of dollars.

522
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.440
He had enough money to provide for
herself and take a hundred and fifty

523
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:22.360
thousand dollars and set up as a
scholarship month fun the black girls who didn't

524
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have the money. So it's money
can be gotten if you have a plan

525
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.880
to get it, and we teach
that in the law VAT. Yeah,

526
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.360
I know a lady with a similar
story. I don't think she made it

527
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over ten dollars her whole life.
Forty years come late, she dies unexpectively,

528
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.320
and they looked at her bank account. The lady had over seven hundred

529
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thousand dollars and if they owned a
home, had three kids, she was

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married of course, so I don't
know if it all came from one place.

531
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But I don't think he made much
money either, But still it was

532
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.400
a lot of money. The kids
were just so surprised that she was able

533
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.280
to do such thing just without even
any kind of formal training. We're talking

534
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:08.480
about middle school to graduate. Yeah, yeah, you know, like you

535
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:13.760
can create wealth a lot of times. Yet yes, it's I call it

536
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.960
Michael Way wealth. You gotta make
money overnight. You're like I'm want to

537
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.519
get rich by next Thursday. I'll
give it ninety days. If ninety days

538
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.800
it doesn't work, and I'm quitting. If you're gonna when you look at

539
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.840
the people who really make money,
you'll find that they hung in there.

540
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.599
I mean, Michael Jordan went to
the same school I went to, of

541
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.440
Carolina buch younger than I am.
But he was not a great basketball player

542
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:45.400
in school, but he worked hard
his parents. Now he had great parents

543
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.679
who supporting them, and everything he
did okay. But he didn't happen overnight.

544
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.880
It took him a few years that
he went through the whole process for

545
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:59.480
high school college, so it didn't
happen overnight. Anything you do takes time.

546
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.199
But if you do it with deliberation. I mean, if you have

547
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a plan, then you can create
anything you want. Without a plan,

548
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:13.800
the Bible said, where there's no
vision, the people perish. If you

549
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.400
don't have a vision of what you
want to be doing, have the chances

550
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.800
how you're just gonna spend your right
chilling until one day you just freeze.

551
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.199
Yeah, I would definitely agree with
that. Now, are you a fan

552
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.480
of people crazy? Uh? Vision
boards? I ain't go let us sound

553
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.280
like witchcraft of me. So I'm
not gonna be one behind that. That's

554
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:39.800
all right, okay, okay,
um, excellent, but plack libertarian,

555
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.960
I think you had a question.
Go ahead, are you referring to me

556
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:52.039
your question? Okay, okay,
yeah, yeah, I didn't want to

557
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:57.039
travel down the rabo hole. So
I just so if you've got something to

558
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.119
doctor Herbert here, so go ahead
and ask anyway. I just sorted to

559
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.320
go back to the book. The
book has been very helpful. I don't

560
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.800
know if my assistant sent you copies
of the book now, yeah, we'll

561
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:14.039
love to have it. Okay,
bro, I'll make sure that have her

562
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.239
reach out and get your addresses and
send copies to you. Man, haven't

563
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:22.440
any whether it's four of us on
here, whatever, I want each of

564
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.400
you to have a copy of the
book now. If you prefer digital,

565
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.599
Like I said, I'm still old
school. I need paper. If you

566
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.599
prefer digital, I can have her
send you a digital right away or whatever

567
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.599
works. Man, I can read
it away. But I have a reading

568
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:40.760
about her book. Um. So
I hate to make this about race,

569
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.679
but we already Everyday black Man podcast
coming from whatever Day black Man. All

570
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.599
right, so look, let me
ask you a question everyday. Black man,

571
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.960
all right, he wants to change
his life. There are a lot

572
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.400
of sits out there that just aren't
true. They say black men don't make

573
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.760
no money. They do. Black
man don't take there to ji they do.

574
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.119
Black men on this, black men
of that. You know what,

575
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:07.199
those narratives that aren't always true?
All right? Will your book be able

576
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.440
to help them on? Like?
Ignore those details are out there. I

577
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:14.679
know what I'm saying. Anybody else
can found on it. I mean he

578
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:20.559
said it already, He said to
ignore any criticisms or the field or failure.

579
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:22.960
And that's really all those are alway
to try and box black men into

580
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:28.679
thinking that they are failures before they
actually do anything to help become help them

581
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:32.199
become a self fulfilling prophecy. Sorry, and you know there are two areas.

582
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.960
One of the things in the first
chapter in the low thought, one

583
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:43.440
of the most profounds that you have
is the thought you have about yourself and

584
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:49.760
those narratives you was sharing, narratives
perpetrated by somebody who may not like it,

585
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:54.000
who may not care about us,
and based on their mindset, the

586
00:44:54.079 --> 00:45:00.000
law what says, see yourself intories. No matter what they tell they may

587
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:05.360
tell your dumb as a box of
rocks. See yourselves smart, okay,

588
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:09.320
know that you have the potential,
and so the book would be very helpful

589
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:15.400
in helping redefine yourself image that if
that's what they're telling you, that's not

590
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.320
what the truth of you. So
now you decide who you want to be

591
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.719
and what you want to be,
and then you proceeded on those lines.

592
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.599
Versus hard working I'm sorry to that
you offer. Which one do you think

593
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:32.320
it matters more? I think they're
both equal. A lot of intelligent polks

594
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:37.559
that are broke, intelligent folks that
are lazy, and I know another hard

595
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:43.960
working people who don't have any sense
who're just working to maintain need them both.

596
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.320
You need intelligence and you need hard
work. Let me ask you a

597
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.400
question about success. Now, we
talk a lot about successes. If it's

598
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:59.559
a good thing. Success has a
lot of negative actibes, longer, jealousy,

599
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.079
a lot of things that are hard
to deal with the side of getting

600
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:07.679
for success, most people may not
even walk to success. You mentioned Beyonce

601
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:13.719
earlier. I imagine how life is
a living hell, right, you know

602
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.440
what I mean? Paparad see people
always on your in and out in and

603
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:22.760
out, and we never talk about
that part of success. Success feels like

604
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.239
an extrange relationship with everybody who own
everybody who's ever done business, and becomes

605
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:37.599
a lonely hole of destitute feelings toward
life. And I just wonder do we

606
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:43.760
really need to push people towards success. Success is a looking a lot more

607
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:50.480
at the material side of it,
But success is a continuous realization we're worth

608
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.119
while purpose and I mean, you
know a lot of times we have created

609
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.559
with dollars extens There are a lot
of people who are successful because they're happy.

610
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:05.079
You know. I think success without
happiness is short lived. And that's

611
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.079
why a lot of times people make
a lot of money but live very,

612
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.519
very miserable lives. And so the
main thing is what is it that brings

613
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.960
you joy? What is it that
brings you happy? Success has its down

614
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:22.320
its downsides in a sense that I
got like, you know where Beyonce and

615
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:29.199
jay Z lived. You know,
I know the property is a pain in

616
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.880
the butt, but I know that
they have a magnificent, beautiful house overlooking

617
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.800
the park with a beautiful view,
and and you know they don't have I

618
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.880
don't know if they I don't think
they have any money worth, so that's

619
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.960
not a bad thing. I think
the idea is to create a life for

620
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:52.159
yourself that provides the material things you
need to take care of you and your

621
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:59.320
family, that provides the amount of
satisfaction and what you do to make the

622
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:05.239
money, and provides a legacy.
You know, I believe in legacy,

623
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:10.039
in other words, the fact that
I've lived and we have children. I

624
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:14.239
would love for my children to have
a better shot than I have, so

625
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:19.159
I would like to make sure that
they have some money going forward. You

626
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:23.079
know, I'll take it very interesting. Very often we as black folks looking

627
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:29.679
insurance to pay the burial and pay
the bills, wherein white people looking at

628
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:34.519
insurance is a way to replace the
income of the person who died. Just

629
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.840
say it's the father of the husband. And that's a big difference. That's

630
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.920
a big difference. And I'm not
it's not absolutely they allowed black folks to

631
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.760
really plan for that. But the
idea, have a happy life for yourself,

632
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.480
to provide for your kids in the
future. Well, you know,

633
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.199
I used the data girl who who
made her first few millions off of the

634
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:58.400
death of a family member from insurance
money, and I thought it the way

635
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.400
she described it was the most evil
I've ever heard of a life. But

636
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:06.639
everybody should do that, even though
it's very terrible, praying for someone's death

637
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.239
so that you could gain wealth.
But I guess overall, I just always

638
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.320
heard more money, more problems,
And in my life I've understood that to

639
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:21.239
be true. And I just wonder, like, is that where where are

640
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.000
the topics where we discuss what it's
like to make money or be successful in

641
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.639
the pitfalls and the stress and the
helm of that existence. You know what

642
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.559
I mean? When I see a
crackhead on the street, he's as happy

643
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.199
as he could be, got his
crack's running down the street, but naked,

644
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.360
he's just in zest. You know, he's happy, elated, Gabe,

645
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.920
he's gay as he could be.
But when you look at somebody who's

646
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.679
really wealthy and miserable, they got
this to do. Their schedule is NonStop

647
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.280
things to take care of them when
it get hold. I look at all

648
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:58.719
the successful men who are not happy
in the relationships with that. I mean,

649
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.440
successing more like a murden than anything. What would you say to people

650
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:07.679
who feel like dog success is like
a knife. You can use that knife

651
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.000
to carve out a beautiful statue to
carve out a beautiful life for yourself.

652
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.679
You can use that life that same
knife to kill somebody. It's all a

653
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.960
matter of perspective. There are a
lot of people with money that are very

654
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.119
happy. Don't generally hear from them
because one of the things I find about

655
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:28.639
having money that the best you do
is be quiet. Don't run around showing

656
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:34.199
how much money you have. You
know, because money is kind of like

657
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.079
dog poop. It can attract flies. And so there are a lot of

658
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:45.039
people who have money and very happy, very self contains of content, and

659
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.360
most of them are very quiet about
the money that they have because they know

660
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:53.760
that other people have different attitudes about
their money. Guy I knew hit the

661
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:59.679
lottery man and went to Las Vegas
and hit the machine for five million dollars.

662
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.360
You got about two point eight millions, and his life was hell.

663
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.519
People that didn't know and man relatives
showed up. Somebody sued him because one

664
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:13.239
day he said, Hey, I'm
gonna send your child to college. This

665
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.320
is my grand nephew. I'm gonna
send him to college. The mama.

666
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.000
When he didn't do it, the
mama want to sue him because he said

667
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.320
four years ago he was gonna send
him to college. So the money brought

668
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.519
him nothing but grief. He's back
working on a job, the money's gone,

669
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:30.000
and he's probably happy than he was
before. So it goes both ways.

670
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:35.960
If you get the money without consciousness, it's all about mindset. If

671
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.400
you get the money without the right
mindset, people who hit the lottery very

672
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:45.360
often within five or six years the
money's gone. But then you get people

673
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:50.199
who generate money hit the lottery and
they have the right mindset that those lottery

674
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.519
winners that you never hear from,
those are the ones that are pretty happy

675
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:58.559
with their money. A lot of
the people who work can make very successful

676
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.719
you never hear from him. You
know, one day you see them in

677
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.639
somewhere and you go like, man, I didn't know you had that kind

678
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:09.039
of money. They are the only
very happy. So I think it's not

679
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.679
money, it's the attitude that people
have towards it. It can be a

680
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:19.239
blessing or it can be cursing,
but it depends on your mindset. All

681
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:23.599
yeah, good. I guess,
not necessarily to summarize, but my thoughts

682
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.119
of what you've said so far is
that when dealing with money, you should

683
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.840
look at it or treat it as
a tool, and then when using properly,

684
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:32.559
you know, you can cut yourself. But I mean, I work

685
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:37.199
in a kitchen and uh, I
can't stand the dull knife. So I

686
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.079
think it's a matter of when you
have a sharp knife, do you use

687
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.079
the knife and then put it away, or do you wave it around and

688
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.960
tell everyone you have a sharp knife
and then invoke feelings of jealousy in them.

689
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.679
If you can just be happy and
content with what you have and keep

690
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.360
it within that notion, you know, maybe cut things for your friends,

691
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:58.800
right, then everything's fine. But
when you start trying, yeah, show

692
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.480
it off and whatnot. Look at
this. I got this that Japanese still

693
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:06.719
people get jealous of you, and
we know that jealousy breeze contempt and whatnot.

694
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.599
So maybe one of the better things
could be that you should not just

695
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:15.800
chase success, but also chase a
successful mindset. Exactly, Yes, perfectly,

696
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.800
I definitely agree. I definitely agree. One of the people I know

697
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:22.920
who got fired from a job.
When we next song him, he was

698
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.320
super happy, and it's because he
had so much stress and letting go of

699
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.320
the job, he found something better, and I was more in line with

700
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.239
him, so he was very happy. I'm complete, man, I just

701
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.199
I thank you guys for sharing and
you know, giving us an opportunity to

702
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:44.480
talking. So what you're doing dread
together, a group of brothers together talking

703
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:50.320
stuff, ideas and meaningful stuff.
And so I'm you know, just thankful

704
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.840
and honored to be on your program. I do have one question before you

705
00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.599
go. It's gonna be a little
bit off the wall. You didn't mention

706
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:06.239
it. You kind of like scowed
it over it as a lawyer, Um,

707
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:12.199
how do I say that when it
comes to politics, Um, how

708
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:16.840
do you think that equates to like
success on the black bass? B do

709
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:21.840
black people need to get more involved
in politics? Or you don't even mention

710
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.800
it in your book whatsoever? Or
and now I don't mention any politics anything

711
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:34.920
personal growth development? Yeah great.
I don't care for politics in general.

712
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.920
I have an opinion, but I
don't think they're important because I think it's

713
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:45.639
more about money than anything. As
I get older, who knows money is

714
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:52.760
important? Ideas are important to you
know? Politics represents different ideas. Yeah,

715
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:59.599
you know, so many different ideas
on the landscape, and and some

716
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:05.840
people believe one idea, some people
believe another. So whatever, whatever the

717
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.719
program. If you got money,
you're in the battle situation like that.

718
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:15.679
Okay, money, money, money, any money, all right, So

719
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:21.800
we thank you for coming to our
show. Here. I actually learned a

720
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.079
lot. And well you learned something
every day. And let's see what if

721
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:29.360
we take down knowledge and use it
and don't procrastinate to use it tomorrow,

722
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:30.960
use it today, right, anything
else you want to say to the audience.

723
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:35.519
Absolutely, when I say to the
artists, thank you for having me

724
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:39.119
on. I know there's people of
colors, black folks have to do.

725
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.519
I know when I was a child, I was taught you had to you

726
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:47.559
had to work harder to get less. You gotta always work harder. We'd

727
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:52.639
love you to go out and get
our book. It's on Amazon, twelve

728
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:58.360
Universal Laws and Success by Doctor Herbert
Harris. It's on our website Herbert Harris

729
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:01.159
dot com. Of the things that
we've been really working to do, we

730
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:07.719
find it many times when people want
to make changes in their lives and sincerely

731
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:15.719
make changes. We put together a
program called the Success Toolbox, and the

732
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.280
reason we put that together was to
give people an opportunity to have all the

733
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.599
tools. So you have a copy
of the twelve Universal Laws of Success e

734
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:29.039
book. But you also have the
audiobook over six hours because a lot of

735
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.119
folks, we have to respect people
have different learning styles, so a lot

736
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:36.639
of people have to hear it rather
than read it on a book. So

737
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:40.400
we have the audiobook and then we
have a home study course called new U

738
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:45.000
the New Uth Course. And what
that does is it gives you a chance

739
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:50.039
to I think he was saying a
little earlier. There's four parts in the

740
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:54.039
course. It's like assess your situation
because if you're not happy, if things

741
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.480
are not going the way you want
to, then you need to look at

742
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:04.400
what's going on. Assess your situation. Part two is make some necessary changes.

743
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.920
Once you know where you're going.
Once you know where you're at,

744
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.920
it's like a GPS. You can't
go anywhere until you know where you're at.

745
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:16.400
Once you assess your situation, whether
you when good, your finances,

746
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:21.960
your relationships, your emotions, your
thoughts, then you can make new thoughts,

747
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.320
new emotions, new relationships, new
habits. And so we say assess

748
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.599
address. Then the fourth section,
the third section is on to set new

749
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:36.000
goals. Once you see more,
you can be more. So once you

750
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.519
get a good vision of your life
you want to live, then lay it

751
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:45.440
out and write out that vision.
And then the fourth part is how to

752
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.400
make a plan, how to get
it down, how to do a day

753
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:52.599
by day action plan to do stuff
and so. And there's a lot other

754
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:58.800
motivational audios in their Law of Command
to help you reprogram your mind. You

755
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:04.159
know, so that of those negative
things that the world mind the system has

756
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:08.800
said about us can be changed.
And it's on our website, So thank

757
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:14.039
you listeners to just check out our
website, Herbert Harris dot com. And

758
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.960
there's a nice little tab there success
tool box. Click on that and read

759
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.639
some of that and may be something
very helpful for you. So once again,

760
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:24.559
thank you so much for being on
here, and keep up the good

761
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:29.800
work. Hey, I'm in this
with a little scripture Jeremiah twenty nine to

762
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.960
eleven, for I know I have
plans for you, declare the Lord.

763
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.440
Plans to prosper and not to harm
you, plans to give you hoping and

764
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:43.719
a future. Everybody, thank you've
gotten the Harris from coming to the podcast.

765
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.480
We appreciate you. I will be
looking forward to diving deeper into your

766
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:51.159
books and if you want to come
again, the door is always open.

767
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.960
We thank you on the Everyday black
Man podcast. Everybody clap, there we

768
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.880
go. You have one thank you, and you'll learn that each one of

769
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:07.920
the laws is based on some scripture. So I think you'll app right.

770
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:10.199
So my my system will get to
your descents, your addresses, and we

771
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:15.400
will send you the copy. Thank
you, Stay blessed, thank you,

772
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:40.000
stay with Hi, chobbing jobbing,
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