1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Hey, it's Bill. I want to remind you before we begin that you're 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,719 probably not going to get a gift you really want this season. That's why 3 00:00:06,839 --> 00:00:12,560 we want you to gift yourself with a nice certificate to Woodcliffe Hotel and Spa. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,640 You could use it for the hotel and stay overnight. You could use 5 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:19,920 it for spa treatments and they've got every imaginable spot treatment in one of the 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,039 most luxurious settings you could put yourself. Or you can use it at the 7 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:29,079 restaurant where they have a fantastic wine selection and just top notch food. Your 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,159 choice. Gift yourself Just call five eight five two O six eighty eight sixty 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,520 six and tell us why you deserve it. Five eight five two O six 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,799 eighty eight sixty six and gift yourself with Billified and the Woodcliffe Hotel and Spot 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,799 from the Mac of All Trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Kreisler. 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:01:03,640 Dots, Gee, Brahm, It's Bilified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, 13 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:07,400 hello and welcome. Yes, we're starting a few minutes late. I 14 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,840 apologized. There was all kinds of chaos happening all at once here, a 15 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:14,000 lot of stuff going on. Well, there's a lot of stuff going on. 16 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:19,760 I guess we kind of start with what is actually coming out locally in 17 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:23,120 the news and I'll save the other stuff. I don't know what you did, 18 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:29,280 but Kevin's not here tonight, and I think that's your fault. I'm 19 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:37,319 pretty fault you do. Oh yeah, I know you have evident. Yeah. 20 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,680 I don't want to read any more text on, come on, don't 21 00:01:40,719 --> 00:01:46,239 stop now, don't stop now. There's a little drama there. But we'll 22 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,079 start with the news stuff. And we have Tyler Dunn coming on about his 23 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,680 uh he's very excited to come on the show. Okay, well I'm excited 24 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,799 to Actually, this guy was at Colin Cowherd show. That's Friday Bill. 25 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:00,920 This's a big deal. Okay, Well, I don't want him be disappointed. 26 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:05,640 Already said his expectations. Previ's going to be stepping down, all right, 27 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,360 So let me give you. So there was a young man who has 28 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:14,000 been missing from rit since November twentieth. He told his friends that he was 29 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,199 leaving and going somewhere. I'm just surmising this. I'm not I'm not reading 30 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:23,000 anything, and but none of the news station's really saying anything. So I 31 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:28,039 have friends that do this for a living. And we also have somebody in 32 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:32,319 the Monroe County Sheriff's Department who is is part of this. So I now 33 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,560 just to give you a little background. This young man went missing. He 34 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:42,120 I believe he's from Michigan. He went east, but he told his people 35 00:02:42,159 --> 00:02:46,120 that he was meeting friends and traveled east. I don't know why that's indicative. 36 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,919 Its friends could have been east, but I guess not so. But 37 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,080 no one had seen him, No one had seen anything, heard anything from 38 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:59,039 him. I remember just lightly paying attention to it because I thought, oh, 39 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,120 could this kid. Have you assume when it's a missing person and that 40 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,560 goes more than forty eight hours, that we're talking about a recovery mission and 41 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:14,159 not a return recovery being and we find the body, this young man is 42 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:17,159 safe and sound. Oh heavens, yeah, yeah, yeah, well well 43 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:23,120 great, But now his mom and dad came to ri T had started. 44 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:28,039 I think there were fundraisers to get search parties and bring family man. And 45 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,599 she was in his dorm room, and I thought maybe it was somebody from 46 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:34,240 the DNC. I don't want to misquote anything, but I thought they had 47 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,919 interviewed her and she was just there trying to figure out where did this guy 48 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:45,080 go. Now we're talking there's a major holiday in between November twentieth and December 49 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Thanksgiving, right, yes, he's put to be grateful for everything you have 50 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,199 and you're with your family. There you go. So I called our friend 51 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Berkeley. Breen. Oh, I love Berkeley, and I hadn't talked to 52 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Berkeley and own. Berkeley said, yeah, he goes, we're not hearing 53 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,120 anything on this. He said, I believe that all the information is coming 54 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:08,400 from a Facebook post his family put out there. He goesaid, then we 55 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:13,360 got a very brief statement from the Monroe County Sheriff's office. So I immediately 56 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,120 fire off a text to our friend, Deputy Hurley, and Deputy Hurley says 57 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,959 to me, can we talk tomorrow? I go yeah, I said, 58 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:24,759 I'm gonna certainly bring it up tonight. But sure, He goes, I 59 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,279 just don't know what I can say tonight, Okay, all right, Yeah, 60 00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:31,800 So I don't know what happened. So Berkeley said, I'm going to 61 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,279 send you screenshots when I land. So when you walked in, I was 62 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,720 getting text from Curley and Berkeley. He goes, I'm going to send you 63 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:46,199 the screenshot from the family Facebook page that they had put up there, and 64 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,759 it was the fine Matthew Grant Facebook page, twenty one year old kid. 65 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:55,920 I believe a wrestler at rit Yeah, some med screw with Yeah, yeah, 66 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,000 I mean he yeah, he knows, he knows moves, he looks 67 00:04:58,959 --> 00:05:01,120 like the best ufc A wrestlers. Yeah, because they know want to get 68 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,439 you to the ground. It's over. Matthew Grant has been found safe and 69 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,600 it's reunited with his family. Praise be to God. Matthew's vehicle was found 70 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,839 by an officer late last night. The officer called in the plate number and 71 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,759 realized it belonged to a missing person and acted immediately. We are forever grateful 72 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,120 for the privacy of Matthew and his family. We asked that you refrained from 73 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:26,519 flooding us with questions and speculation at this time. Well, how the fuck 74 00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:28,759 can you not wait a second? Wait a second, time out, time 75 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,680 out, timeout. I understand, I understand, you're just getting over what 76 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,160 you thought could have been a tragedy. If I'm his mom and dad, 77 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,759 I want to choke this kid and hug this kid at the same time. 78 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:42,079 Yeah, I want to choke him and hug him at the same time. 79 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,199 Right, I'm not kidding because you the mom and dad thought this young man 80 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:49,480 was dead. They had to have everybody. Yeah, they came here, 81 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:55,800 but we're living in twenty twenty three. You can't fart without someone being able 82 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,519 to go with an infrared camera and figured out that the gas actually didn't come 83 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:01,160 from Dan, it came from Bill. Jeff Bezos. He knows, you 84 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,279 know what I'm saying all that stuff. So I don't know if they found 85 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:09,199 hits on a credit card, if they found him go through a toll well, 86 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:12,319 obviously his car was found. We were hearing that. I'll read on. 87 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:15,959 Yeah, because it's about time that technology was good for something besides pulling 88 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:19,360 money out of our fricking pockets. We are forever grateful for the privacy of 89 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:24,120 Matthew and his family. We asked that you refrained from flooding us with questions 90 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,399 and speculation. At this time, we will not be responding. You know, 91 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:32,319 what did you do? Take that Matthew Page that found to a frequently 92 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:38,439 asked questions about Matthew Page and say, so, what the f happened? 93 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,800 Well, that's in great and that's pretty much the only question you need answered, 94 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,879 because I'd be livid if my resources were used to find this dude who 95 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:51,000 decided I just need some time away. Well, who knows right, So 96 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:57,240 we asked. We also ask if you personally know and love Matthew and family, 97 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:01,399 you do not flog their phones with messages they feel your love. We 98 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,560 have that. We have turned the commenting feature back on this post. We 99 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,519 have turned the commenting feature back on this post. We believe that each of 100 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,000 you deserve the world and wish there was some way we could express our gratitude 101 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,399 to you all individually. In a time of crisis, the community and beyond 102 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:24,600 stepped up and treated our family like it was their own. You wrapped your 103 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,920 arms around us while we navigated uncharted territory, and you helped us bring him 104 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:33,160 home. You spent your own valuable time, efforts, and energy helping us, 105 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:38,839 and together we get to celebrate in this miracle. Thank you, Thank 106 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:42,040 you, Thank you. God is good all the time. Guy's got a 107 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:45,160 post a text two and said he'll be signing autographs at the rit in a 108 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,199 conference center on the sides of milk box of milk containers where he was missing. 109 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:53,759 So it's collector's item. I'd be out of my mind with this dude 110 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,519 right now. Then I wonder if like he had a gambling problem and the 111 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,560 mob was holding him or something like that, because if he can't talk about 112 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,000 it and they can't talk about it, it's a pretty big thing not to 113 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,839 talk about. Well, it's a big thing not to talk about because you're 114 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,240 curious. I mean it's almost like you know, Finn and Tom Sawyer. 115 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,680 Yeah, walking, I mean, which, by the way, I've always 116 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,399 wanted to do, just to see who shows are. Of course, you 117 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 know, why are you never mind that? To me? That's paradoia. 118 00:08:22,439 --> 00:08:26,040 Listen, you're paranoid? You are you talk about your funeral? Lot? 119 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,519 Who you want there? What you wanted to say? There's too much time, 120 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,840 you know. Yeah, you're right, I have way too much time. 121 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:33,399 No, no, no, too much No, no, no, 122 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,919 I don't think you have too much time. I think there's too much time 123 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,879 for me. Maybe not you, but for me, it's too much time 124 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:43,919 to spend thinking about my funeral. I'm hoping I'm still fucking old. Nobody 125 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:48,840 shows up. Hey, you're the old guy. You know that guy we 126 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:54,879 saw it passed out outside on the bench ouside Thursty's he's still there. The 127 00:08:54,919 --> 00:09:00,360 Minoa County Sheriff's Office is please to inform This is from Brendon Hurley the release 128 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:03,240 to in from of the Matthew Grant has been located as safe and is reunited 129 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:05,960 with his family. Thank you to all of the deputies investigators who work so 130 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,720 tenaciously coordinating the multiple agencies, follow up leads, using technology, and working 131 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,320 with the family to locate Matthew. We appreciate our partnership with the media who 132 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,759 helps spread awareness and our efforts to reunite him with his family. And that's 133 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:20,600 all they're saying because they don't know anything, because the other people are going 134 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:24,799 we can't say anything or we're not saying anything at this moment. Now, 135 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:28,519 I'm i gotta think at this point you almost need to hire a PR firm. 136 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:33,759 Just don't do the ones that those people who did that is the racist 137 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:37,600 party. Yeah, yeah, I'd stay away from the KFC people, right. 138 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,919 So I'm saying, if Matthew shows up, you ever like your mom, 139 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,960 you gave me a hot attack practically, uh, you hug him, 140 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,000 then you punch him, then hug them then saying like you want to go 141 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:56,679 crazy because you left your family unless they knew like he was having and maybe 142 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,600 he went to her. But how is this possible that you had all this, 143 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,480 all these agencies and you were able to Literally it's the closest thing to 144 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:09,840 a disappearing act I have seen in a long time. He's got it, 145 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,960 not he's got I hate saying this. I don't want to like cast dispersions 146 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,919 on this guy. Just shut up and say it. You could have I 147 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,720 think he's got mental health issues. So that could be, and that very 148 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,360 well could be. It could be the stress of feeling that you need to 149 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,080 perform and being a student athlete and all this up. Sure, okay, 150 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,600 all right, but to just disappear like that and not reach out to your 151 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:33,559 family is concerning. I just hate saying it because it seems to be like 152 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,919 the catch all for everything. Oh it's not I understand what I hear. 153 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,840 What you mean? We always play everything, Well, I got mental health 154 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,200 issues. Well so does half the NBA when they don't want to play. 155 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,759 Okay, I mean, so it's just mental health issues every day. No, 156 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,679 dude, that's how I live. You didn't have mental health issues. 157 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,799 I have no friend at all. I have no friends. I am my 158 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,279 own multiple personality friends. Uh yeah, so I I don't know. I'm 159 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,919 thinking i'd be very upset if I'm his family. But I'm also I have 160 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,440 this thing, and I think I've said it. I don't know if I 161 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,840 said it when we were together on the radio, but I did say it 162 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:11,919 after that for sure. If like, I remember that this guy went down 163 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,919 into the subway tunnels down in Rochester, the old subway tunnels, and he 164 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,639 decided to uh, he decided to take pictures and he wanted so he went 165 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:22,960 out and part of the river there is pretty shallow, So he went out 166 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,759 and he got on some rocks and he's taking pictures and I don't know if 167 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:30,240 the water picked up or he hopped the one rock too far, but all 168 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,120 of a sudden, now, no, it just turned into I can't get 169 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:37,399 back. So now he's calling nine to one one and they got to get 170 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:41,080 the ropes team from the fire department out And I go, if you are 171 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,720 a fucking moron, and you go where it says do not go beyond this 172 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,279 point, you're at Letchworth, you're anywhere, and you go, And I 173 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,919 understand the temptation to go. I am that kind of guy, but if 174 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:56,720 they got to come save your ass, you got to pay that bill. 175 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:00,159 Yeah, it's sure, doesn't it. Yeah said that, we said that. 176 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,279 I remember. But if you break it, if it's a sign that 177 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,360 says don't go there, you broke the rule. Yeah, hey, you 178 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:09,279 broke the law. Kansas City had a beautiful play, but somebody broke the 179 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:15,519 role. Yeah, they broke the role. He was lined up as a 180 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,039 linebacker for the fucking bills. I guess. So that so with this kid, 181 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:24,759 what are you doing? And now there was an awful lot of money. 182 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:28,200 I'm sure drones went up looking for the guy. We're gonna find out 183 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,559 how much money this cost us? How much money? I want to know 184 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,799 the family, just the family was mom already in therapy, trying to deal 185 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:39,919 with the unexpected loss of a twenty one year old son. Oh gosh, 186 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,240 don't you think it could possibly be? Yeah, yeah, he's got to 187 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,759 pay that bill. Hey you know what I got you for Christmas? A 188 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:52,960 bunch of bills. Yeah, exactly. That's why I took out missing person's 189 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,279 insurance. So it's like the Geico or the the the affleck of going missing. 190 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,320 And again, uh for the family, I'm I'm I'm sure, the 191 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,480 big sign of relief. But I mean even as the family, they got 192 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,639 to go, what is going on? So ruin Matthew Perry died. It 193 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,639 was right round Halloween. Yeah, it's so usually takes six weeks to find 194 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:16,039 out like the cause of death. Typically we usually forget that. I was 195 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,519 said, oh, yeah, that's right, remember he died. I'll bet 196 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,519 you we'll find out the cause of Matthew Perry's death before we find out the 197 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,080 real reason this kid went missing. Well, we're coming up on almost six 198 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,919 weeks, right, right, that's my point. We're not gonna find out 199 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,440 much. No one's gonna say anything. Well, the thing is this on 200 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:33,000 the other side, Okay, as much as I'm saying it, because I 201 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:37,080 have a twenty one year old son, and I would just be I can 202 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:43,960 only imagine I just know some of the players in my family to you understand 203 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,360 and saying, oh, I could see the musical now, and I'm just 204 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:52,279 going I know how upset everyone would be. And I would want to like 205 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:56,080 privately put my arm around him and then put him in a choke hole and 206 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,799 then hug him and then choke him and hug him and choke him. Oh 207 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:01,200 yeah, and so famously said, I don't know if I should shake your 208 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:07,240 head. All I did was graduate. Hi, I never disappeared. I 209 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:13,600 was right there. Uh so I don't know. And with with Matthew there 210 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,399 there could be a number of you're right things going on. I I just 211 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:22,399 uh, I think here's what I was gonna say. Truthfully, it's none 212 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,919 of our business. It doesn't change my life any bit. What happened to 213 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,200 this young man. It's really it's not it's not But I would you involved 214 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,679 the public. Well, it's now our business. Okay, But I think 215 00:14:35,559 --> 00:14:39,679 New York police, the police you got that deserve an argument. I don't 216 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:43,200 have one for because there's a piece of me that goes once I you know, 217 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:46,879 somewhat half jokingly rant and half serious and uh, just say the stuff 218 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:50,759 we just said on the podcast, I go, I don't care as long 219 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:54,559 as the kid's fine. Was it changed my day, but you know what, 220 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:58,039 it could have changed other things. You deployed resources to go find somebody 221 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:03,000 who wasn't really missing, or maybe they were, but you know, as 222 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:09,200 an adult not responding and not somehow snuck away. Who knows what what else? 223 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,080 We didn't have somebody available to go cover right because of that. Yeah, 224 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,440 so now our resources had to go elsewhere, and now the Kia boys 225 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,279 have gotten away with a few more cars. All right, we uh, 226 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:24,360 we shall take a moment and when we come back, Tyler Dunne Tyler done 227 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,080 from Golong. He's got a guys, a heck of a writer. He 228 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,200 covered the packers from Thelwaukee Journal Sentinel. He covered the bills for the Buffalo 229 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,919 News for a while. Then he went to Bleacher Report and was a featured 230 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,600 writer, and then Bleacher Report blew out a ton of people because they overextended 231 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:41,320 themselves. He's been writing, he's been writing independently for go Long TD co 232 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,320 Long TV is his thing, that's his site. Yes, so we will, 233 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:48,039 uh, we will talk to him. He did the whole Big Long 234 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,000 thing on McDermott. I've read I've read it one and a half time, 235 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,840 so let's say one to three quarter times, and uh, some of it 236 00:15:56,879 --> 00:16:02,120 maybe sensationalized. I don't know. I think it was overall when I read 237 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,840 it, I had a different voice in my head this time. So we'll 238 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:11,240 get to all that next. But first Toronto Dental with my buddy doctor Eduardo 239 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:12,840 Toronto. You know we're going to be heading into a new year in just 240 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:15,320 a couple of weeks, and a lot of times we think of how can 241 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,519 we make our life better? Well, what about your health? We think 242 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:23,519 of exercising, maybe eating right, but what about your oral health? 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Yeah, the Buffalo Bill's having even won twelve games this year. 276 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:11,680 They could, they could, they could, they could have, right, 277 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:15,279 that's the thing. Rob Lucas was a long time morning show host in Buffalo. 278 00:19:15,559 --> 00:19:21,559 Yeah, and our old company, Odyssey, sold his station, just 279 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,880 his station Star one or two point five, to a Christian group to flip 280 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:29,160 into a Christian outlet. So when he did his last show, this was 281 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,440 the last song he played. I really love this song. It's a great 282 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,000 song. I think it's from the City of Angels sound Nichols, which, 283 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,599 by the way, that movie ends in such a bummer. Yeah, I 284 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:42,200 don't remember me. I'm gonna call He's an angel, he comes down to 285 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,160 Earth. He falls in love with Meg Ryan, who wouldn't write and she's 286 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,799 so in love that she's just in La La Land on her late sicle. 287 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,920 She'ts hit by a car and dies, and now he became human for her, 288 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:56,839 and now he's got to figure out the world by himself. Yeah. 289 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Wow, what an interesting concept, What an interesting Can you believe that? 290 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,359 That's really interesting? All right, I'm calling Tyler Dunn. Let's see what 291 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:11,880 we Uh I think it's Las Vegas. Hello, Tyler. I first, 292 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,759 I want to apologize for being ten minutes late. Oh my gosh, don't 293 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:19,359 worry about it. Well I do it. I'm doing well. And uh, 294 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:22,240 I appreciate you taking some time to talk to us. I'm sure you've 295 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,400 been a very busy guy after the release of that article last week. No 296 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,279 problems, it's been done. I would think it has been because, I 297 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:37,599 mean, look, you were getting attention from every corner of the planet. 298 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:44,839 And I said, the only way that article doesn't become even more impactful is 299 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,359 if they win. And they didn't. They lucked out. I mean they 300 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,960 lucked out. I mean they didn't. They lucked out. They lucked out. 301 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,240 I mean, you know in the end, and I think in the 302 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,160 article you talk about that edge and it was so apparent to me because I've 303 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,160 read the article. As I was saying, just be called before we called 304 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,720 you like one in three quarters time times. I didn't get all the way 305 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,599 through the second time. But the point is, there's just a point in 306 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,359 the article, and it might be the third part where you talk about Sean 307 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,200 McDermott kind of clenching up in the big moments and how that how that I'm 308 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,519 gonna call it energy because I'm a It's weird, but I'm a big energy 309 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:29,640 guy, and I believe that we pick up on other people's energy. And 310 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,440 it sounds like he clenches up and then everybody else does as well. And 311 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:37,079 in those big moments you were talking about the teams that are more relaxed, 312 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,880 the coaches that are a little looser, you know, the Philly special that 313 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,000 this that we just saw it happen with a loose team at the end of 314 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:51,759 a big game and they won, except they broke a rule. I could 315 00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:57,519 not agree more. Yeah, that's what makes football great, right. It's 316 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:03,599 it's one on the fringes. It's on uh, by the inches and a 317 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:07,240 call here, a call there, and the football is shaped uh with the 318 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:11,839 two points in a funny way for a reason. But so yeah, I 319 00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:14,400 think you got to give you got to get the bills and Sean McDermott, 320 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,240 theyre their credit and they did stop Kansas City one three times in a row 321 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,279 after that play, Yes, they did. You're You're one hundred percent right? 322 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Uh? And I yeah, I just I felt as I was reading 323 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,759 it, I go, God, And I had read it before the game 324 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:32,480 and now I'm reading it again after the game, and I go, that 325 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:36,039 moment is what jumped off the paid so to speak to me when I when 326 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:38,079 I thought of that, and I thought, wow. But you know, 327 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,519 as you read the article, and I don't know if you're willing to kind 328 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:48,119 of share this. It is an article that is uh insightful. You talk 329 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,440 to a lot of guys. Some people remain anonymous. Some people get upset 330 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:53,480 when some people won't put their name to certain things. I mean, we 331 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:57,720 all understand why, yeah won't. No, I'm not saying it, but 332 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:06,880 I'm just wondering. Have you received I guess a percentage wise positive versus negative 333 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,000 response to this article. Definitely a blend. Right. It's the folks that 334 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:18,119 are upset with it are going to be very very loud and their hands. 335 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,400 I mean it's it's short for fanatic. I get it. I mean the 336 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,799 Bills are a religion here in Western New York. And so when this comes 337 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:32,079 out, I think that it kind of followed a similar trajectory, if you 338 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,880 will, to the Packers story I did at the Bleacher Report. When was 339 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,440 that twenty nineteen? So Mike McCarthy's fire and Aaron rodgers is office one of 340 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,960 his worst seasons he happened here, yea. And initially so I did a 341 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,200 lot of reporting on that as well, probably about five six months of talking 342 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:56,200 to as many players, as many coaches, scouts as I could same deal, 343 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:00,599 some on the record, some anonymously, and you know, we could 344 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,559 talk about anonymous source and for hours. I see the value in it, 345 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:04,960 and I think a lot of people see the value. Well. You feel 346 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:11,759 like you can really say something that's insightful. And I always believe in looking 347 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,519 for patterns in life, Tyler, Like you know, I look for patterns 348 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,640 like with my kids. Am I seeing a pattern of something that's adding up 349 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,759 to a problem here? And it seemed like you're that article was showing a 350 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:30,000 pattern of behavior from McDermott that really is could it be preventing the team from 351 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:36,799 getting over the hump, the proverbial hump, and people saying that anonymously. 352 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:40,799 I'm sorry to interrupt, it is you know only one. Sure, it 353 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:41,880 can be frustrating because we want to well, who the fuck's saying this, 354 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,279 But at the same time I get why you wouldn't and it does paint the 355 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:48,319 picture. Hey, this guy, he's putting his name to it. He 356 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,400 said it, and here's two anonymous sources saying the same thing. You know, 357 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:57,720 to get the truth, to really lift up the curtains and see how 358 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:03,640 this lead work. In a lot of cases, take takes that, and 359 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,640 so there's an element of trust, right, it's up to the reader to 360 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,720 decide. I'll stand by my record. I'll stand by my reputation. The 361 00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:15,519 stories I've done in the past, always covered the NFL full time since twenty 362 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:19,000 eleven, and you build up a lot of relationships over the thirteen years. 363 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:26,440 So I think that if you really want to understand how somebody coaches behind the 364 00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:30,880 scenes, like a lot of these assistants that have left, and remember they 365 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:37,480 weren't necessarily always fired. A lot of them left by decision for lateral moves. 366 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,000 So that tells you something there. It's not like they're bitter that they 367 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,839 were canned and they lost their livelihood in every situation, the same deal with 368 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,599 some players. So I think that, yeah, there's kind of two nfls 369 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,240 and there's the version that we see a press conference at a podium and it 370 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,279 could be good, don't get me wrong, everting stories off those kind of 371 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:03,039 settings, and they've talked to players in the locker room and build those kind 372 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:07,599 of relationships, But there's a whole other world beneath the surface. And to 373 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,160 bring that world to the fans, to the readers, who are, by 374 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:17,200 the way, making this a multi billion dollar industry, I think it's you've 375 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,480 got to reveal the good, the bad, and the ugly, and in 376 00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:22,359 this case, there was quite a bit of bad, and we all know 377 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,079 what the ugly was. So what do you say to the people that say 378 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:32,920 you've been denied press credentials by the Bills. I believe they're the only team 379 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,480 in the NFL that did not grant them to you and you've had I think, 380 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:44,720 is that because of the past incident with McDermott, potentially could that be 381 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,240 the case that's been the rumored to me? But I don't know if that's 382 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:52,559 the case. I'm asking. No, I've never really had an interaction with 383 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,279 Sean McDermott in my life. Okay, I didn't know if there was like 384 00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:59,680 some kind of article or something or something happened at a press. You know, 385 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,759 I could connect some dots, right, take a rocket scientist to you 386 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,440 know, see that I wrote a story breaking down thirteen seconds A bad, 387 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,480 bad situation was the headline a couple of years ago. And it was after 388 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:15,319 that, into the next season that I was told, you know, I 389 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,839 wouldn't be credential, not that I was before, would go along and if 390 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:23,599 I wanted quotes, to get them off the website and that was that. 391 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,400 And they said they just weren't credentially in new media. But you know, 392 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,720 I don't want to read into Okay, okay, all right, I was. 393 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,640 I was. I was sort of reading into it, and I went 394 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480 just to try to go from both sides. Is this something? Is this 395 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:45,160 like Tyler having a problem and making McDermott look bad or telling that nine to 396 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,160 eleven story, which it's kind of cool that Saturday Night Live picked up on 397 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,960 your article, correct, I mean, in the way Tyler congratulation it's a 398 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,039 little bit of a bragging point. And then but I mean even that was 399 00:27:56,039 --> 00:28:00,319 more of the sensational stuff. And what bothered me, I think more than 400 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:06,039 anything, was that the other media that picked up on your piece would highlight 401 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,680 those but when you read the whole article, which as an individual might you 402 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,599 know independent myself, Yeah, pay this guy to read his stuff, please 403 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:22,039 because but please don't just let somebody take an excerpt out because in the big 404 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:26,119 picture, because that sounds like sensational, and you know, the story wasn't 405 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,039 that big a deal. Every I think everybody in Buffalo who covered the bills 406 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,400 knew about that speech and knew he had apologized. But in this article, 407 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:41,519 it just kind of shows you the awkwardness of McDermott and his awkward way of 408 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:48,039 relating to players and sometimes finding finding the way to connect to guys. And 409 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:51,000 I even think you in there you say, no, he's not supporting, 410 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:55,279 he's not that guy. But some people pulled it out, and I know 411 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,559 that, you know, individual people on social media were writing about it, 412 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,440 and I think that sometimes people thought there was a little bit of an act 413 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,000 to grind, but I don't think that's the case. After reading it, 414 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,319 twice. Yeah, I think if people read the series and fatality, I 415 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:15,519 get it. It's it's I'm it's editorial. It's like I'm saying he's the 416 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,319 problem, and that's the result of talking to all of these people. It 417 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,160 is, you know, I guess it's kind of a blend of yeah, 418 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:30,440 that he is central to this team falling short year after year and everything that 419 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,200 you see on the TV, like, there's a reason for it. There's 420 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,799 a reason late in games that they're taking the knee with twenty seconds against Philly 421 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,480 and it's fall a part of ar awhead and thirteen seconds all that. So 422 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,759 I just kind of wanted to bring that to life and follow the report of 423 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,359 what everybody was telling me reaching out to him as far as the acts to 424 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,079 grind. Look, I don't care if they credentially or not. I just 425 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,119 want to be transparent with everybody and say, look, there there's a reason 426 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,200 that you're not going to see direct quote from a ton of current players in 427 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,960 this series because I'm not in the building, and there isn't Shawn's voice because 428 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,759 they closed the door. You know, the drawbridge had been closed a while 429 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:14,200 a back, so that just isn't going to stop me from doing a job. 430 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:18,359 And I told the Bills this a year ago when we were denied at 431 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,799 some point, I can't remember that even though they weren't going to give go 432 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,000 Along a credential, that that's fine. That's the prerogative their business. They 433 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,200 can do whatever the hell they want to do. I live here. A 434 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,119 lot of my subscribers when I launched Go Along, I mean, they're Bills 435 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,839 fans, So I'm not going to ignore the Bills just because they want me 436 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,319 to ignore the Bills. So that's why I did a show with Isaiah McKenzie 437 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,039 for two years. That's why I've done a ton of player profiles. So 438 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,000 everything that everybody's seen that wasn't no hell from the Bills. I just got 439 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,160 those guys on my own. Dion Dawkins, Damar Hamlin, got Taiwan Jones, 440 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,920 Nam Hines. There's been a been a whole bunch that I've kind of 441 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,759 gotten together with Quintin Morris, Grevin wings At, Barb, Bill Elmos, 442 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880 whatever, and just goind to learn about their lives. So I think that 443 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,720 you know, there's there's access journalism, and there's a lot of folks that 444 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,400 maybe just kind of want to be a part of that and follow them Mop 445 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,079 and the Amba in the locker room. And you know, this is the 446 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:18,640 talking point at a podium, just eating up like slop. But I feel 447 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,279 like, you know, we owe it to the readers to find some original 448 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,039 stories, and clearly this season the number one stories is is Sean McDermott the 449 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,000 demand to lead this team when you have Josh Allen, when you fall in 450 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,680 short year to year to year, when you're six and six, and that 451 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,640 Philly game just encapsulated the entire era. That's kind of why. That's why 452 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,240 I dropped the story after that game. And I've heard that quite a bit 453 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,880 too, the timing, How could you do that? Do it now? 454 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,759 Well, I don't work for the Bills, right, you know, I 455 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,319 don't put stories out so everybody doses warm and fuzzy and said, hell, 456 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:55,720 I got a lot of criticism with the Packers' story, dropping it in the 457 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:59,759 op season because Mike McCarthy hadn't didn't have a job yet. Like, you 458 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,599 know, if we're all just going to take different feelings into account, I'll 459 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,559 take the reader's feelings into account first. About that, Like right now, 460 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,559 I felt like the reader's fans want to know more about Sean McDermott and what 461 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,880 the problems may be internally. So that's the compant self following, and that's 462 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,160 what I try to follow throughout the reporting of the story. That began, 463 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:22,920 honestly back in the spring is when I probably started talking to people talk to 464 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,279 me about being the independent, you know, because you get to do that 465 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,519 because you're independent. You know, sometimes you could get pressure from an editor 466 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:34,960 if you're somewhere else saying hey, listen, we kind of we wanted to 467 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,240 have access, we want to keep access, hold off on this, or 468 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,920 hey let's change this or leave that out, or you understand, And I'm 469 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,839 not. It almost sounds like there's no such thing as freedom of speech or 470 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,960 freedom of the press. But there is a human element of things, right, 471 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,119 There's a give take in life, so you want to do that. 472 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:59,480 But the cool thing about being independent is you're beholding the no one. Yeah, 473 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:06,079 it's it's a uh seeing in a curse man man, the right cliche, 474 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,480 but it's no in the privilege whatever it is, right, I've got 475 00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:15,839 the freedom to do whatever I want whenever I want to do it. Yet 476 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:22,440 I'm going to lean into the personal discipline and lessons that I've learned over the 477 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:25,519 years. I've been so lucky to have just so many amazing mentors. Back 478 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:29,759 to you know, Chuck Pollock at the Only End Times Herold. You know, 479 00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,480 I grew up in West New York working for him to today, you 480 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:37,559 know, when I got to the NFL Milwaukee Journal Sentinel working with Bob mcgainn, 481 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,160 Tom Seberstein, Laurie Nicolay. I've been around a lot of old school 482 00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:44,839 reporters that that did the job a certain way, so, you know, 483 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,799 leaning into that and kind of I think that's important because you can't just shoot 484 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:54,400 from the hip. I think everything's got to be rooted in and steeped in 485 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:59,640 reporting. And that's why I talk to twenty five people to try to learn 486 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,240 as much as I possibly could. Honestly, I wanted to just keep going 487 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,920 and keep reporting and keep and just see what other rabbit holes I could fall 488 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,039 into. But it felt like, okay, let's put it out now to 489 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,639 me. Tell us, you know what I mean, Like these palace intrigue 490 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,239 kind of features, they're typically dropped when the coaches fired. Yeah, so 491 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,199 the coach is fired and then the beat writers or whoever's knows that team or 492 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,599 that coach. Best pull out the notebook, dust it off, and share 493 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:35,960 all the terrible stories with the world because there's no repercussions. Right, it's 494 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,400 all right now. But here's here it is. I think that there's a 495 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:44,559 value to doing it in real time, and you're gonna get backlash. You 496 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:45,639 know, I may not be credential by the Bills, but hell, I 497 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,320 live here. I would just at Target to day at Orchard Park, where 498 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,639 my go along sweater and my cover looking at me a funny way here, 499 00:34:53,280 --> 00:35:00,320 you know. So there's that, But I feel like there's it's better for 500 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,880 the reader if you do it now, because that's what interest is highest. 501 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,199 That's when they can start making judgments for themselves. I'd encourage everybody just read 502 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,599 it in its totality and decide for yourself what you think instead of just seeing 503 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,119 a nine to eleven headline and yeah, put it in your head. Go 504 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:20,119 ahead. I want to ask you about that because to me, like Tyler, 505 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:23,719 like, if anybody read the article drops on Thursday. By Thursday afternoon, 506 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,960 the Bills are holding a press conference and then everybody's commenting about the nine 507 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,719 to eleven stuff. Now, were you surprised that It was that of all 508 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,840 the stuff that I took for that article, the nine to eleven stuff kind 509 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,079 of ranked maybe like eighth or ninth. That was just like more evidence that 510 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:43,840 he's kind of like a like a Michael Scott type. Okay, that's that's 511 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,639 how I take Sean mcderr and I've taken that since the season opener of twenty 512 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:49,320 twenty one, like, how'd you lose to the Steelers? How'd you lose 513 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,760 seven games that year? Like they've lot, They've had more inexplicable losses to 514 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,320 lesser teams and lesser quarterbacks, some of whom are no longer in the NFL 515 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,960 that we make fun of or are like taking position coach jobs because they can't 516 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,119 coach anymore. Nobody respects them. And yet this guy lost all these games, 517 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,840 the thirteen seconds game you could lay at his feet, and yet everybody 518 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,159 just draws to the to the nine to eleven stuff. Were you surprised that, 519 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,360 like one, they clearly didn't read the entire article when they jumped to 520 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,840 that. I know the Bill's bit a press conference about it. Did that 521 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,519 take you aback at all? That that was what they gleaned from? It? 522 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,599 Isn't that amazing. I mean, it's so refreshing to hear you say 523 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:28,800 that, because as as I'm working on this, I was probably right there 524 00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,679 with you, like it's you know, and the way I viewed the speech, 525 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:37,639 it probably was like seventh or eights on the most damning details gleaned from 526 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,719 these players and coaches and everybody's been around him. Because I really try to 527 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,880 make it clear writing like this, obviously he isn't pro terrorism, right is 528 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:55,679 ridiculous, Yeah, but it does shine a damning spotlight on a lot of 529 00:36:55,679 --> 00:37:05,119 his worst tendencies. Overthinking something to the point of including that analogy or that 530 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,639 model I should say into a training camp speech like that. That is overthinking 531 00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:14,719 to the extreme, to the cluelessness of not realizing this is this is like 532 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:22,039 saying that Hitler is a good lead. Well, I mean one connecting Henry 533 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,599 Ford liked him. That was it. That was It's an interesting thing because 534 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,400 we have a very close friend who is a big sponsor of the Buffalo Bills, 535 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,400 sponsors training camp and everything in town, and we talked about this article 536 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,920 with him on the podcast, and he was saying that that piece he wished 537 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,840 was left out. It seems sensationalized and all that, and it was more 538 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,760 on the second read for me where I went, no, it's not it's 539 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,840 painting the whole picture. It's just telling you a story. It wasn't done 540 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,119 to stationalize. It was done to go and here's just one more example of 541 00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:55,880 the awkwardness and the uncomfortableness. And even some of the players go, we 542 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,440 get what he was trying to do, but it didn't. It just it 543 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,760 missed the mark. He apologized. Uh, you know, but that's the 544 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,599 that's the thing that becomes highlighted. So for you, as an independent journalist, 545 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:16,119 how do other journalists react to you? Hmm? Do they? I 546 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,920 mean, now that that's out, Like I don't even know if some of 547 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,519 them went beyond the paywall, but I know they certainly took that story. 548 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:27,320 I saw that story at several places that bothered me, Tyler, It really 549 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,360 did, because there were a few, like I'm not going to name any 550 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,280 names, local prominent journalists with the usual experience on television who all of a 551 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,360 sudden just chomped on the nine to eleven stuff, and it was like, 552 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,840 come on, really did you read then? But do they do they kind 553 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,679 of give you the side eye or treat you as though you're you're less. 554 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,280 Then because of that, you think I don't know, I'm asking I don't 555 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,159 know. Yeah, you know, I think that's a really good point. 556 00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,840 And I tried to give it, like twenty four hours or so after the 557 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,760 game, to write a column kind of reflecting back on the on the madness, 558 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,679 and really, how this how this kind of crystallized the whole mission of 559 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,239 what I'm trying to do with Go Along, and who I'm really writing for. 560 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,320 So you're not You're not You're not writing for the people who are never 561 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,519 going to subscribe and never going to read, and our only concerned with that 562 00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:17,280 headline. And I cannot tell you I do not want to make myself an 563 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,880 empathetic figure at all. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying to your 564 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920 point, people not even reading it. I mean, the nasty crap that 565 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,559 you get from folks it clearly they didn't read it. Clearly they just saw 566 00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,840 nine to eleven headline, nine to eleven story. Right, I'm the author. 567 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,320 You're trying to new this team nuke this season Like that's awful. But 568 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,119 no, I think everybody who read it, Yeah, if you've got disagreement, 569 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,079 like let's let's chat about it. That's why I had a happy hour 570 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:45,880 at my sight Thursday night, and that's why I have another one this Friday 571 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,880 night, Like, let let's let's talk about it, because those who read 572 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,840 it, like we could have an intelligent conversation about maybe problems you had, 573 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,920 and I can take it through the thought process of everything. But yeah, 574 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,039 in terms of the local media, that will a surprise. I was it 575 00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:07,400 wasn't necessarily surprised that the Bills had such a pr campaign on Friday. I 576 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,480 mean, you know, Steve Tasker saying that this was written for profit, 577 00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:15,159 which I guess that means that Steve has donated his salary to charity to Congress 578 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,480 right for doing that. But that's not a surprise. But I was a 579 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:27,760 little surprised, given me the volume of news in this series that hasn't really 580 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,199 been reported or talked about or anything yet, that locally people covered the team's 581 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,280 day to day didn't pick any of it up. We'll sign that worth a 582 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,119 blog post, you know that. That that definitely surprised me. So that 583 00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:43,880 kind of allows the nine to eleven thing to dominate locally. Nationally it probably 584 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,039 would have anyways, I'm not a dummy. I mean, that's awful right 585 00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:50,199 now. You just don't do that as a leader of any organization. But 586 00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,639 yeah, that locally, to see that reaction was a bit of a surprise. 587 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,519 Well, see that, to me is a bigger commentary on journalism today. 588 00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:01,960 I have been like pretaping some stuff for the holidays, and I had 589 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,559 a journalist in here and he had told me he was doing a story on 590 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,000 women prisoners and albion just as an aside, to just give you an example 591 00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,480 of this to why you're nine to eleven. Thing pops out and at the 592 00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,800 time, Amy Fisher was who was the Long Island leader. She had shot 593 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,320 Mary Joe Bafuco in the face. It was I'm from downstate. It was 594 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,400 a big story in the late eighties, early nineties. And she winds up 595 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,559 in prison up here. Well, he's doing a story on a prison guard 596 00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:37,840 raping a couple of the women and her mother finds out and contacts him, 597 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,880 and he didn't want to include Amy Fisher because he didn't want the story to 598 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:45,159 become sensationalized. And anything anybody's going to focus on is Amy Fisher, and 599 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:50,239 he goes My purpose was to really help women in prison who are being raped, 600 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,760 and let's I know you're in prison, but you don't deserve this kind 601 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,559 of shit, so he said. Eventually it did come out, and that 602 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,320 her mother says to him, we snuck panties out of prison that have semen 603 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,280 on them, and where I'm having them analyzed. She calls back. It 604 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,840 turns out to be this one guard and he did wind up going to prison 605 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,360 himself for raping several women, including Amy Fisher, except the New York Post 606 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,960 found out that she had been writing love letters to him, so that sort 607 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,519 of overshadows. And my point for you is that, like the nine to 608 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:29,400 eleven thing to me was in the article, it's an example of McDermott awkwardness. 609 00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:31,679 Not a great leader. Might be a great coordinator, but not a 610 00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:36,519 great leader of men. Seems to have this rigidness about him, tightens up 611 00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:38,719 at the wrong time, even says the wrong thing even though he's trying not 612 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,840 to. Here's an example of that. But yet everybody ran with the nine 613 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,239 to eleven and I think that that becomes a bigger thing in today's journalism to 614 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,000 try to get hits, like hey, now I'm going to click on whatever 615 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:57,719 TV station or website or newspaper that's got an excerpt of Tyler's article because I 616 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,639 can look at it for free or I don't even know maybe who Tyler is 617 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,199 or what he does. And that to me is uh shitty, yeah, 618 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,519 to put it, to put it in a basemay, it's shitty because I 619 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:14,880 again, it took me a second read really to go that's not the focus 620 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,239 here, and yet it was and it shouldn't have been. And that's the 621 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,960 Twitter world. I blame acts. Oh yeah, it's the culture. I 622 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,840 call it the cancel culture. Vultures, that's what they circle. That's I 623 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,679 mean, it's hard to argue with any of that. I mean I see 624 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,599 that. That's kind of how it's kind of how today's media worked. And 625 00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,239 it's sad, but I see it all the time. I mean, basically, 626 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,039 every long form story I do, if there's if there's some something in 627 00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:51,360 there that's salacious, maybe a little strong in this case, is now, 628 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,960 that's that's just gonna get picked up. That's what's gonna get aggregated. That's 629 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,599 what's going to get shared. You know, you do a four or five, 630 00:43:55,679 --> 00:44:00,199 six, seven, in this case, twenty one thousand word story on 631 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,719 somebody and it will be whittled down to one anecdote, share it everywhere, 632 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,199 So I guess it's kind of used to that, and I just kind of 633 00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:13,400 I wasn't gonna fight it. Even early on at the Journal Sentinel covering the 634 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,280 packers. That happened all the time, and it tiss off players, you 635 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,159 know that, because they see what it was aggregated, and as the journalists, 636 00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:22,519 you're like, man, that wasn't my intense. I've got this long 637 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:29,480 story and people who read it in full are going to understand it. So 638 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,599 I really just try to stay steadfast and writing for my audience. In this 639 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,000 case, it's people who subscribe to go along for the long form, and 640 00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:45,679 I've been blown away by the emails, the comments. Everybody who's read it 641 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:52,760 just gets it within the community I've been building here, So I'm at peace 642 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,639 with it now. It's frustrating, don't get me wrong, But what are 643 00:44:55,639 --> 00:45:00,039 you going to do right when you've got so many people who didn't read losing 644 00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:04,679 their minds. I don't think it. I don't think it should stop me 645 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,760 in the reporting process. I didn't think, oh, you know what, 646 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,400 this is what this anecdote is going to get picked up for this reason because 647 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,000 nobody's going to actually read, so I'm not going to use it. No, 648 00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:20,280 I think that's connected disservice to the audience that I have in the community. 649 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,159 As been building here, I'm going to articulate it exactly as it was 650 00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:29,599 explained to me by these players, and how it does point out his flaws 651 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:31,679 for X, Y, and Z, and it does connect. It's not 652 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,679 just this crazy one off thing that he apologized for an hour later that she's 653 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,880 forgotten it is. It is bizarre, it is noteworthy, newsworthy, and 654 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,039 it does explain a lot about the coach and his inability to connect with the 655 00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:51,519 players. So you had a story in there about the old lady that that 656 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,679 got confused and drove it. I remember the story was that your story, 657 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:59,679 right, she drove Naga the Niagara River and the car got stuck on rocks 658 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,079 right before it went over the falls. He used that as an analogy, 659 00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:05,559 but knowing, but it didn't go anywhere. Teamwork what happened. I do 660 00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:08,280 I believe that stories before the nine to eleven story in your artic Yes, 661 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:13,320 yeah, there's and there were some other speeches told. I mean they just 662 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,039 a lot of them are just clunky and awkward and they don't really make sense 663 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:21,199 or have a point, and it's you know, I think he has gotten 664 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,519 a little better over time, but he struggles to communicate. But worse than 665 00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:28,320 that, I think it was the cluelessness. You know, there's an assistant 666 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,199 coach who said that even after this speech, that that Seawn couldn't really understand 667 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,400 why players are pissed. Yeah, like it didn't register in his mind, 668 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,039 like so, And it did take I mean, Shawn's not going to say 669 00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,880 this at the press conference we wrote it. I mean it did take Kyle 670 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,599 Williams kind of being there and say, hey, like this, you've got 671 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:50,760 a talk to team. And he did his credit on the field an hour 672 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,360 later. But that just goes to show that robotic nature that Sean mcderman has. 673 00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,639 He's robots. The wordy here a lot's a strong word, but you 674 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,599 hear fraud quite a bit. There's a lot of good there and we didn't 675 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:07,079 even talk about it here, but there is a lot of good. He 676 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,280 pulled him out of the gutter because he is so disciplined. They needed that 677 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,320 order. It was such a mess under Rex. It was even worse than 678 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:21,159 I thought, So they needed Sean McDermott. But I think that his flaws 679 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,480 they have held him back and they'll continue to hold him back. Number one 680 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,559 flaw being that inability to really connect with the most important player on the team, 681 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,840 that'd being Josh Allen Tyler. You know that's why I'm glad you wrote 682 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,119 this because as a diehard Bills fan, I haven't missed the Bills gives sow 683 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,199 seven. I'm forty three years old now, I lived through the Super Bowls, 684 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,000 right, and you know they produced the Four Falls of Buffalo, and 685 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,480 it's really a puff piece. We still have not gotten to the answer of 686 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:49,639 why they lost those four Super Bowls. We haven't gotten to the truth of 687 00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,760 the seventeen year drought. And yet you just gave us the truth about why 688 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,480 this team with Josh Allen can't win. It was the head to the head 689 00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:59,440 coach, right, And everybody's pissed off that they have the answer. They 690 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,239 don't like the true and it bothers because like if you remember, like the 691 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,679 the eighty five Bears thirty for thirty, they all crapped on Ditka and they 692 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,599 won, but you got answers as to why that team couldn't go any further 693 00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:14,000 and yet you know, you gave us the answers and why this team isn't 694 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,559 doing anything and people are ticked off too freaking bad. I want the truth 695 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:20,960 now. I don't want Chris Brown from Buffalo, from the Buffalo Bill's you 696 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,599 know, mouthpiece, to tell me five years later that Jerry Gray had quit 697 00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:27,599 seven different times in his final year with the Buffalo Bills. Well, that 698 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,920 was the information I could have use then when I'm buying my ticket for this 699 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,320 team. I want to know this stuff now because people are investing their money 700 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,800 now. And I'm glad you brought that to light. That's all I'm saying. 701 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,199 I'm sorry, I love it. No, it's trust me. It's 702 00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,320 good to hear because that was the intent, right. It's for the people. 703 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,119 It's for everybody just wondering what the hell is going on with this team, 704 00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:52,079 with this coach, with this quarterback. You can you can feel the 705 00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:57,360 frustration through these losses when you lose to Denver the way you lock. God, 706 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,719 I were there, we were there together. Yeah. Oh, I 707 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:07,599 mean I think I believe that there was a a starvation for information what is 708 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:12,599 going on here? Because you deserve it, the fans deserve it. The 709 00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:16,320 bills don't exist with a people fill in that stadium so well, it's like 710 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,880 when they had all that in time. It's like when they had all that 711 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,440 information on Whitey Bulger and they could never make a case against him, and 712 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,199 you found oh he's an FBI informant. Oh well that makes sense. But 713 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,199 nobody can figure that out. Nobody knew. You know, now we know 714 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,079 why this team because it can't freaking win. What I what? I kind 715 00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:34,679 of like Tyler, and I wonder if this will happen. You seem to 716 00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,719 be a guy who's fairly open minded. You're having the happy hour where people 717 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:43,280 can come in and I assume have dialogue with you and you'll answer questions and 718 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,639 maybe there'll be disagreements, but a dialogue. That's somebody who's open to criticism 719 00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:52,679 and changing. Is there a chance that this article, which I believe may 720 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:58,119 have led to the dismissal, had they lost against Kansas City? I really 721 00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:00,119 do. I think that I think your article would have got even more attention, 722 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:07,960 right, But could this maybe potentially change McDermott. Is there a chance 723 00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:13,440 in your mind that he reads this or someone gets to him and goes, 724 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,840 hey, everything about you here is kind of true, man. And we 725 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,199 never see ourselves as we are, you know what I mean. We have 726 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,079 a perception of what we do and what we think we are, but it's 727 00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:28,599 how other people are perceiving us, and a lot of times there's some truth 728 00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:32,679 to it. It's just hard to hear. I really enjoyed this conversation. 729 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,599 I mean, that's such a great question. I don't know. Maybe right, 730 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:42,719 I mean, one weekend there seemed to be an overcorrection. Right played 731 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,639 that game he's throwing where he would run before. As an aside, this 732 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,960 wasn't in the story. A one player told me that he will so is 733 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,159 a player he played for the Bills, well known guy obviously can't say his 734 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:59,039 name here, that he was watching a playoff game when the Bills played Miami, 735 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,480 and I can't remember the exact sequence. It was after a big turnover. 736 00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:07,760 Maybe it was the Zach Steeler touchdown, something like that, and he 737 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,280 told people around him, like I watched this, they're gonna run. Here 738 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,480 comes to run Sean. Sean's gonna do it. And that's exactly what he 739 00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:20,280 did. And everybody who's watched this team has really gotten to know those tendencies 740 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,679 and those tendencies weren't there against Kansas City right to the end when he's blitzing 741 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,719 and pressuring. And again, if Kadarius Tony is an outside, it's another 742 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,039 disaster with another nickname. And you're right, the pressure ramps up. But 743 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,360 they won and he was aggressive, he was different. I would I would 744 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,760 hope for the Bill's sake he changes. I don't know, I really, 745 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,639 I don't know. I mean, it's such a the variance is unbelievable. 746 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,920 They could miss the playoffs entirely, they could get to the super Bowl. 747 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,239 This a FC is widal it is, and I just it would be very 748 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,239 interesting to me to say, well, it is very interesting to see what 749 00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,320 happens the rest of the way and what impact this article has, because I 750 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,519 think it has an impact either direction here lose. I think it starts to 751 00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:10,800 show what's really happening right when maybe it was the catalysts to make some changes 752 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,320 that were needed. I don't know, it's just just a thought, and 753 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,800 I think it's kind of cool that you're the guy maybe behind that. Well, 754 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,800 man, I'm not going to take myself too serious. I'll send you 755 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,159 a ring. I'll buy you a ring. If they weren't severowl because of 756 00:52:25,199 --> 00:52:29,320 this tyler. I I may have to take out a mortgage to buy it, 757 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,760 but I'll do it. That's interesting. Hey, how do people sign 758 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,320 up? Like if they want to join dot com? Absolutely? And this 759 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,480 has been great, thanks so much guys. Yeah, but yeah, it's 760 00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:45,519 part of a substack. So substacks are platform. But if you just go 761 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:50,360 right to go along TD just like my initials are touchdown dot Com, you 762 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,400 can. You can sign up for eight bucks a month, fifty bucks a 763 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,719 year to get to get everything. There is a free list, you know, 764 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,280 some stuff I'll put out there for free to get people a tape to 765 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,199 get everything, including this series with the paid subscribers, and definitely have been 766 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,599 blown away by people's curiosity. It's been warming the heart that people still are 767 00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,320 willing to drop everything they're doing to read. And that was a big gamble. 768 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,239 Like when I launched this thing in November twenty twenty, and the big 769 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,599 story that I kind of started with was all about Josh Allen and the Bills 770 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,039 owner Terry Bagoula loving Patrick mahomes right or anybody even knew he'd be any good 771 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:37,000 And that was pretty will learning that. But anyways, yeah, so it's 772 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:42,320 yeah, there's definitely been a desire to learn to read. And that's what 773 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,000 I didn't even know if it existed really, because you got to hey, 774 00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,280 you got to pull out the credit card, put the information in some it's 775 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,480 so hard. We do it all the time on Amazon. Well, I 776 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,719 found out my subscription last because I had to switch credit cards because I so 777 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,360 I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm remember and then sign up. What 778 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,320 else are they getting, Tyler, because I don't have a pay all with 779 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,719 our stuff, but people have talked to me about but probably putting some content 780 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,840 behind the pay well, but what else are you giving him? It sounds 781 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:13,280 like the happy hours and like what is that? So we've definitely the bedrock 782 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,760 of everything. It's the long form and the stories that take days, weeks 783 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,119 in this case months to kind of develop. But I want to keep a 784 00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:25,880 regular cadence too, so you know, I'll usually have a column on Monday, 785 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,039 you know, with the main point of one of the games, and 786 00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:34,559 then kind of rip around the league. Bob McGinn, like I mentioned him 787 00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:38,000 earlier, he's in the Hall of Fame. Unbelievable person, unbelievable reporter just 788 00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:42,599 covered the NFL and the Packers since nineteen seventy nine, so we're kind of 789 00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:45,440 reunited. We do a podcast each week that's for the subscribers as well, 790 00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:50,320 and he writes columns from time to time, and he's got his draft series 791 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,159 next this coming spring is the fortieth annual Bob McGinn Draft Series where he's talking 792 00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:59,000 to scouts and coaches all around the NFL, so you'll get that. Jim 793 00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:02,440 Monas talked to him for that first story I mentioned, and then we kind 794 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,880 of as we're talking about it and getting to know each other, like, 795 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:08,719 man, you know, why don't we just do a podcast? And so 796 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:14,440 that kind of evolved into more of a friendship of being completely honest of doing 797 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,920 a podcast. So we do. We do a show as well, including 798 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,039 one this week where he had a lot of great things to say about Sean 799 00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:27,639 McDermott. That interview process was fascinating. He's a personnel guy exactly. He 800 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,360 was a scout for the Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints and then the director 801 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:36,039 of personnel for the Bills since thirteen to seventeen. And then you know, 802 00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:39,480 Q and A's colins whatever comes to mind, and Brests are we've got a 803 00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:44,119 podcast as well. That's not not every week, but we've done I know, 804 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,440 six or seven shows. Well, we will do a couple more too. 805 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,800 Wow. That's great, well, very interesting. I would say go 806 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,599 find out more and please with everything that we're seeing online, try to find 807 00:55:55,639 --> 00:56:00,719 the whole article and not the excerpt. But sometimes it's taken out of context 808 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:06,159 and people run. I appreciate that, you know what, and hey, 809 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,800 if you can't, you can't hold people's eyelids open and forcing the reasons right 810 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,679 right, right, It's got to happen organically. But I do believe that 811 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,960 people are listening and they've just seen the headline and they think that they know 812 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,320 what this is about. I really don't think they do. I think you 813 00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:28,079 read it in its entirety, draw ro conclusions. If you're still pissed off 814 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,800 and you want to talk, come on in a happy hour, let me 815 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,519 know, we'll hash it out. Yeah. I like that, Tyler. 816 00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:36,639 It's been a pleasure. Thank you, Tyler, appreciate it. Hey, 817 00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:37,880 thank you guys. Thanks for putt up with my kids too. Have been 818 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:43,360 kind of doing a little one on two zone defense. I have money here. 819 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,800 He's got a little present from me. In his diapers. So all 820 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,760 right, well, I appreciate you giving us the time. Thanks man, 821 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,360 Thanks Tyler, Thanks guys. See it, there you go, it's Tyler 822 00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,480 done. I'm running low on disk space and being told my computer my battery's 823 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,679 gonna die on the camera thing. I'm like, I'm all waking out over 824 00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:08,360 that. That was a great set. Yeah, it's a great conversation. 825 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,679 But it's like it's like we're in an era now where we're starving for real 826 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,159 journalism. And that's not at the fault of the people who are doing their 827 00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:16,440 jobs. They're doing the job's the best they can. They're spread pretty thin, 828 00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:20,920 spread thin. I worked in corporate radio. You did too. My 829 00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,559 last job, dude, I literally would start at get up at three four 830 00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:29,039 in the morning and be working NonStop till eleven o'clock at night. You got 831 00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:30,239 to allow the press who was willing to do this, to do their job. 832 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,519 That's what this Chriss is doing too. So yeah, he gave you 833 00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:36,800 the answer. This is I am telling you when I have said, you're 834 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,440 going to see things go back to smaller because it's better. It's gonna happen, 835 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,280 it will, you know. And and these independent guys are proving that 836 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,559 that's where the real value of things are because they can. They're beholding the 837 00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:52,599 no one you don't get that story. And it's not just the nine to 838 00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,840 eleventh thing. The nine to eleven thing is is you got to read it 839 00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,079 in the context. Really, I urge people to do that, but I 840 00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:04,880 ard you with everything you look at. When you see something in the New 841 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,440 York Post picks up just a piece, or you see something on X or 842 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,239 you see it on Facebook, try to find the original thing and make sure 843 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,239 if you if you have time. We don't most people, but or at 844 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,960 least in your mind going not so sure about just this. I'm hoping there's 845 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,840 more to it. Maybe not, but I'm believing there usually is. The 846 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,800 usually is absolutely all right. Well, we will take a moment and when 847 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,840 we come back, Oh, should we get into why Kevin may not be 848 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,039 here? Would you like to do that? Would you like to do that? 849 00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:37,280 Well, I've got other things. Let's do that. I've got other 850 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,000 things we can do that. You know, I'll do my little piece with 851 00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:44,679 Charlie. This could piss off a lot of people. We'll get to that 852 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,360 next. But first, comedy at the Carlson has the hilarious Chris Allen and 853 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:53,039 his Home for the Holidays shows Thursday, two shows Friday, December fifteenth, 854 00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:58,039 and two shows Saturday, December sixteenth. A comedy at the Carlson and I 855 00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:02,119 follow Chris Allen on x It's at Chris Allen Comedy and he posted the other 856 00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:06,239 day, I wish I could go back in time during World War Two, 857 00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:09,639 pull up in a jeep and tell all the white soldiers a Japanese player will 858 00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:15,119 make seven hundred million dollars in Major League Baseball one day and drive away. 859 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:21,000 Now that's hilarious. More of that Thursday, Friday and Saturday Comedy at the 860 00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:24,920 Carlson with Chris Allen. Lock your tickets down at Carlsoncomedy dot com. Betb's 861 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,800 wood Fired Pizza and Grill in the Mulich Resee Ridge with ten dollars large pizzas 862 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,880 every Tuesday and Friday. Mac of All Trades because on the twelfth day of 863 00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:40,559 chris smiss my true love gave to me a list of all the things I 864 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:46,480 didn't get done, so I called mcafall Trades at five eight five two zero 865 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,400 two ninety two eighteen. They're your handyman on the shelf. All the things 866 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,519 you didn't get done, they can get done. Paint the room, fix 867 00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:58,559 the drywall, get the bathroom door to close properly, or the bedroom door 868 00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:02,000 that's not locking. You know it's a Sometimes it's just Jimmy's or maybe you 869 01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:07,920 know you're having a moment and you hear the pitter pattern a little feet and 870 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,079 you go, oh, we better stop because the door doesn't lock. Get 871 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:14,960 that fixed. Knack of All Trades five eight five two zero two ninety two 872 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,079 eighteen. You got bigger jobs, maybe something like electrical, or maybe you're 873 01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:21,440 doing you want a full kitchen remodel or bath remodel. They can do that 874 01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:24,519 as well. Find out more online at Macofalltrades dot net. On the twelfth 875 01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:29,119 day of Christmas, I gave a gift to me Mac of All Trades five 876 01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:53,159 eight five two zero two ninety two eighteen. For two reasons. I'm playing 877 01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:57,199 this song. It makes sense to see it killed in the Panama Canal. 878 01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:05,119 No, okay, good as the holidays. I didn't need that. One 879 01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:08,760 is because Van Hallen is Kevin's favorite band and he's not here tonight. Well, 880 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,199 we play Sammy Hagen, I know, but Van Halen overalls. Yeah 881 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,639 it is, and that's not the main reason to play what's happened? For 882 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,639 years, I thought he was yelling animal you did, oh yeah, But 883 01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:22,760 I was a kid. I didn't know any better, all right, So, 884 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:29,920 uh well, I called myself moranimal because Mark Moran at Saint John Fisher 885 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,320 called himself miranimal, And I go, can I use that on the radio? 886 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:38,239 And he's like, yeah, uh he. Uncle Roger used to come 887 01:01:38,239 --> 01:01:42,519 in and whenever Panama was on and they'd hit this part right here, he 888 01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:51,679 go, moranimomranimal. Okay, Uncle Uncle Rodge would do that. So Charlie 889 01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:55,000 Fitzsimmons, who was producing Weeds' show and then went onto production, and then 890 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:00,079 it's gone on to what I would say is an empire of restaurants, because 891 01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:05,599 I don't think even most people know exactly what's happening with Charlie. Uh there 892 01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:13,119 you're eating somewhere under Charlie's room, Charlie, Charlie sang uh moranimal. And 893 01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:15,599 then anytime I did, like an edgy joke or something, I would hit 894 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:21,800 this stinger moranimal and people fucking loved it. And it got me from part 895 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,119 time to they put me in afternoons. Yeah, I was fresh out of 896 01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:28,519 college and I'm doing afternoons on CMO. You weren't just talking up records. 897 01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,519 You got to do your own like show. Yeah, I was doing a 898 01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:32,760 show like most people will be talking up records. So yeah, I got 899 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:38,039 to do bits and everything. So, uh, I'm getting ready for the 900 01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:42,719 holidays and things. And uh, we're doing a lot of pods in here 901 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,239 during the week, and I hope you'll check these out. Uh, there'll 902 01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:49,760 be one. I've done a couple of one on ones. I really enjoy 903 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,559 those. I love what we do, but I love the one on ones 904 01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,480 as well. And I love them because I am very curious and I love 905 01:02:55,519 --> 01:02:59,800 talking to people and hearing their story, and I love what was their road 906 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,440 to success and what's the commonality for everybody who's successful. So Gary Craig came 907 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,079 in here, and it is one of my all time favorites. I've really 908 01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:12,920 enjoyed that conversation and I hope you do as well. It's about an hour 909 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,800 and twenty minutes NonStop. I will play excerpts from it next week. And 910 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,599 then today, Charlie Fitzimmons came in. I haven't seen Charlie in a number 911 01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:23,159 of years. We worked together at a radio station here in Rochester. And 912 01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:29,360 then Charlie left and he talked all about his leaving from radio and how he 913 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,000 tried to do it, and it's a really funny story. And then how 914 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,440 he opened this restaurant that really buoyed the East End of r I mean, 915 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,840 you know, as much as you look at change right wherever you live, 916 01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:45,119 you go. I remember when this was blank, it could have been booming, 917 01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:47,719 and now it's not. Or it was nothing and it became something. 918 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,639 Right where we sit in Fairport, New York, we have a distillery called 919 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,199 Iron Smoke Distillery, great sponsor, the pro of the podcast, but also 920 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:04,880 the first business in the cannery. And now the cannery has exploded because Tommy 921 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,559 Burnett and his vision showed and it floated everybody in that area. You see 922 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,800 what I'm saying, Well, Charlie, the same thing with the East End 923 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,840 when they built Tonic. But when Charlie came in today, I'll let you 924 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:21,719 just hear it. And then the conversation happens after that, and I think 925 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:28,480 it's gonna potentially bother some people. I considered editing this out and then I 926 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,400 thought, now I'm gonna leave it in there because it is what I believe. 927 01:04:31,719 --> 01:04:41,679 And well, here it is Bridge ship Man. This guy Charlie Fitzsimmons, 928 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,880 I met Charlie Annim. Okay, so that was you. You know 929 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,079 what's so weird is so I forget who I was telling the story to. 930 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:58,199 It was Uncle Roger, who it was the twentieth anniversary yesterday of his murder, 931 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,519 which I have an unpopular opinion on sometimes. Oh, how so you're 932 01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:12,119 for it? No, but I'll say I'll say this because we're twenty years 933 01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:15,280 past. I think at this point, I'm okay. So years ago, 934 01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:20,920 I would like I would drive Rogs to meetings when Stanley was the program director 935 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,400 and we were all there, and we would meet at Stan's house on Harvard 936 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,880 Street. Roger asked me to pick him up and we'd go over and do 937 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,960 this. And there was a time in the studio that he had left his 938 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,800 sweatshirt like on the chair and he was out doing production and I moved it 939 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,159 and his gun fell out. Oh and it was just in like a zip 940 01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:44,639 up sweatshirt, not in a holst or anything, just in the side pocket 941 01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:49,239 of this thing just fell out. I fuck it, almost shit, I'm 942 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,519 picking the thing up like, I was like, oh my god. So 943 01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:57,760 I said to him, Hey, I'm really sorry your gun fell out. 944 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,320 I didn't know what too, So I I'm basing it on this. They've 945 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,320 never been able to find anybody. Nobody really knows what happened. He did 946 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,960 own property and he was collecting rent. But is it possible that the gun 947 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,360 went off and hit him in the abdomen? Do you understand what I'm saying, 948 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,480 not on purpose but a pure accident. Could something have happened? Could 949 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,480 he have been startled where he had the gun, he reached for it to 950 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:27,719 do something. And I only say that because and it sounds terrible and you're 951 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,280 blaming the victim kind of thing that people always say with this. But there 952 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,639 wasn't any secure way. It was just only from my own experience. It's 953 01:06:35,719 --> 01:06:39,239 just you. We had to sit in the back, you see what I'm 954 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,159 saying, And it was in the side pocket. And if that's where you 955 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,920 kept it, right and he was shot in the abdomen, is it possible 956 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,800 that you reached inside to get it and accidentally it went off. And no 957 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:55,840 one really could tell I to shoot that guy. He was the nicest, 958 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,440 sweetest guy, nicest sweetest guy. He bound me out some you know, 959 01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,840 he bail really well, just with the morning show because I had to get 960 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:08,159 up and he'd turned over the mic to the Wei show. And I was 961 01:07:08,159 --> 01:07:13,440 the producer at that time. I was twenty three, twenty four, So 962 01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:16,440 getting up at that hour was you know, that was half the challenge. 963 01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:21,760 So I'd come in on two wheels sometimes in late you know, six oh 964 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:27,400 five, six' ten or something. Yeah, and he'd be giggling and 965 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,760 he's just so sweet. I got you, I got you, go do 966 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,400 your thing. And then I come in. He'd here, he put on 967 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,559 Freebird, you know, a real long song, and then I come in 968 01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:40,599 and wear are my notes? That's so all right? There you go. 969 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,599 So what I'm saying is the unpopular opinion is that yesterday or this week, 970 01:07:46,039 --> 01:07:54,760 and this podcast will run over Christmas week. Uncle Roger wi wash I killed. 971 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,039 I remember it because I was going to interview at a station in North 972 01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,199 Carolina and I was debating whether or not I leave. I got the call 973 01:08:00,519 --> 01:08:02,760 that night. I'm supposed to get on the plane next day. I was 974 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,000 telling my wife and like, what do we do? Because she was coming 975 01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:10,639 with me. I don't know, Uncle Age you know. And I I 976 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,920 say I was close with Rogers, but I was close with Roger. He 977 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,479 was more than a coworker. And you know, I had been over to 978 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,119 his house. We had talked about his kid, I had met his family. 979 01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:23,039 I knew his wife. You know. It was more than just somebody 980 01:08:23,079 --> 01:08:25,560 I worked with, shared a mic with, you know once in a while. 981 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:30,119 So but then all the services and things were later on. And of 982 01:08:30,199 --> 01:08:32,520 course we have the great story of Steve Houseman and his bad breath and how 983 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,279 I said his breath so bad, I'll garage sat up and closed the lid 984 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:41,079 because it was an open casket at the at the wake. But Uncle Roge, 985 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,600 they never found anybody, and there was a rumor that his son was 986 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,359 with him. I don't know. And I'm and I'm not trying to blame 987 01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:50,000 the victim. I'm just saying that. And it wasn't a side pocket. 988 01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:55,960 It was take like a flint, not even a flim just a flimsy you 989 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,600 know, zip up hoodie. Nothing on the inside. They had those big 990 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,399 long like they would sew extra fabric in there and make a pocket out of 991 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,560 it. Yeah, so you're it was a deep pocket. That's where the 992 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:12,239 gun was when I picked up the sweatshirt and it fell out, so I 993 01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:14,600 like, and when I saw the gun, man, I shit, my, 994 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,520 I go fuck that thing goes off? Yeah, you know what I 995 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,520 mean, well could it could? It would have probably been my foot. 996 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:25,920 Who knows if it ricochet somewhere. Yeah, and the fucking noise, like 997 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,359 I mean, a gun goes off and you're not expecting it. Your ears 998 01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:31,960 a ringing for a week. So I'm taking that. And I thought this 999 01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,760 when I heard the story, and it was like probably a month later, 1000 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:39,880 I'm like, man, I wonder if something happened where he got startled, 1001 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,399 if the gun was in there and it's not in a holster, and I 1002 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,680 maybe it was just I'm I'm just opinion right a pining here, right, 1003 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,760 yeah, because he may have had a holster, and maybe he didn't have 1004 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,960 it that night, maybe he didn't wear it, and he goes, I'm 1005 01:09:53,079 --> 01:09:56,039 just gonna throw this in here. Yeah, And he did work midnight to 1006 01:09:56,119 --> 01:09:59,520 six, and you know, walking in a strange hours, and there were 1007 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,399 some weird those are show but radio stations and stuff, and you know, 1008 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,800 so I don't know, but I always wondered could it have been because I 1009 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:11,439 believe it was like he hit a major artery in his abdomen area and and 1010 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,039 the bullets severed that And could it have been at just such a close range 1011 01:10:15,119 --> 01:10:18,880 the damage was irreparable, and could it have been an accidental thing and we 1012 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,079 just never knew that. I mean that that's a that's a reasonable theory. 1013 01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:26,640 Yeah, I mean, and it's like we talk about things figured. I 1014 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,439 mean, we talked about things that hush tones for so long, but let's 1015 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,279 we just put it out there. So I think sometimes it takes a little 1016 01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:34,560 time and you need a little like you know, morning time or whatever, 1017 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,359 but maybe just put it out the in the open and discuss it that that 1018 01:10:38,399 --> 01:10:41,920 could be a possibility. Now My thought immediately to that is, okay, 1019 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,600 like if when they bring him to the hospital and when when he's finally declared 1020 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,920 dead, right they I think they tried to get in there and yeah, 1021 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,399 they try to say it, you know, they pulled the bullet out if 1022 01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:55,039 they knew he was he found with a gun on the scene, Like was 1023 01:10:55,039 --> 01:10:59,039 his gun with him? Uh, because you can look at the bullets inside 1024 01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:01,439 the gun, you can match the bullet in his app I think I think 1025 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,840 I don't remember I don't remember, because I remember that night because I was 1026 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,119 at Matthew's Easton Grill. If you remember that, that's how long ago it 1027 01:11:08,279 --> 01:11:11,399 was. And Mike de Giorgio came up to me, who I worked with 1028 01:11:11,399 --> 01:11:13,359 at Wham. He goes, bro, you won't believe what happened to night, 1029 01:11:13,359 --> 01:11:15,600 and I go what. He goes, Uncle Roger was murdered. I 1030 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,399 said, what, Yeah, I remember getting a call from everybody like and 1031 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,560 I remember Uncle Roage because I would listen to CMF on my way into Wham 1032 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,079 and I'm like, where's he broadcasting from Marks Texas Hockey because he had the 1033 01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:30,800 background noise all night rock and roll cafe, which I stole when I did 1034 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,640 overnights in Poughkeepsie for the first time. He used to have the all Eye 1035 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,720 rock and roll cafe and I handed out the Lampshade of Shame. Oh. 1036 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,039 But it was all based on on roj who I had never met at that 1037 01:11:41,079 --> 01:11:44,279 point, and he did so much for like local music too. He was 1038 01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:46,479 a big guy for local music. He had the Homegrown series and and all 1039 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,039 that stuff. But anyway, just it was just interesting reconnecting with somebody. 1040 01:11:50,079 --> 01:11:55,760 And then I just told that story and that leads to a funny story of 1041 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,720 Charlie that involved a gun and maybe we'll play a little bit of that next 1042 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,359 week and then he can hear the whole thing over over Christmas week. But 1043 01:12:00,359 --> 01:12:05,479 it's what Charlie Fitzsimmons has done. And I always say this to people. 1044 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,680 It's like he's a he's a pretty humble guy and just kind of one of 1045 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:15,720 these guys that works hard. But Charlie is such a demeanor about him that's 1046 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,119 just calm, cool, collected. Like I remember when he was younger, 1047 01:12:19,319 --> 01:12:23,920 chicks would go fucking crazy for this guy. Well then he looked like Eddie 1048 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:28,600 Vedder. You said, you better looking Eddie Vedder. Wow, and he 1049 01:12:29,319 --> 01:12:33,680 yeah, and uh attractive And he was just a really just a nice He 1050 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,439 just was a nice kid. And he was also you know, his dad 1051 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,079 was a lawyer and uh, but he he loved having fun. That was 1052 01:12:42,199 --> 01:12:45,119 his whole aim in life is to just have fun and be creative. And 1053 01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:48,000 that's what he's done and I think that's really led to his success. But 1054 01:12:48,079 --> 01:12:53,199 I will give you a little preview. Uh, you know the restaurants he 1055 01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:58,279 owns here, he owns Black and Blue and and Jojo, uh and then 1056 01:12:58,279 --> 01:13:02,079 there's JoJo's in Webster, and then he opened up the Village Bakery, and 1057 01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:09,159 the Village Bakery is in Pittsford Eastview Mall, Culver Road, Armory and in 1058 01:13:09,279 --> 01:13:14,399 Webster in the building that he owns. Uh, he owns something in the 1059 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:20,359 in the village of Fairport. Okay, yeah, it's under development. And 1060 01:13:21,119 --> 01:13:28,520 he also owns Black and Blue in Buffalo Albany, Massachusetts. And he's opening 1061 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:33,319 one now right now in Boston one here besides the black of the original Black 1062 01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:35,640 and Blue here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good for him, God 1063 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:42,960 bless them. And it's all from somebody who uh, the intention wasn't to 1064 01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,560 own a bar restaurant. And if you listen to the podcast, you know 1065 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,199 it's it's because I really highlight go wait a second. Yeah, he's like, 1066 01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:51,399 yeah, this is what we were gonna do. This was our intention. 1067 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,600 And then we get in the space and look around and things changed. 1068 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,119 So that's fantastic. It's just it to have an epiphany like that, well, 1069 01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:01,159 the idea of bulbs go off, you're you know, what's just I 1070 01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:09,279 think it's one of these things where you are following your inspiration and that's what 1071 01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:12,720 you need to do when you're inspired to do something, get off your ass 1072 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,000 and do it. How many times did people go, God, I had 1073 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:19,800 this great idea. Man, I had that idea for Flexeal years ago. 1074 01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:24,399 Remember we built the boat. I'm just giving an example. Yeah, but 1075 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,439 you know what I'm saying, I was brilly bayed before. So if you 1076 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,960 have the inspiration, get off your dead ass and follow it, and maybe 1077 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,039 this happens for you. I don't know, but I love these kinds of 1078 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:40,279 conversations, uh, because uh, I hopefully you feel good after it. 1079 01:14:40,319 --> 01:14:43,159 Maybe you feel inspired after it, or maybe you learn something, or maybe 1080 01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:45,960 you get a little motivation. Because I even said to Michael Charlie, I 1081 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,680 I find what you've done inspiring. You know. I called it an empire, 1082 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,439 and I don't think it as an empire. And he said to me 1083 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,880 later on, he goes, I'm driving out of Boston the other day going 1084 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,399 what the fuck? How did all this happen? I don't even and get 1085 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,439 it. You know, He's like, there's always one day a week I 1086 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,119 feel like I'm paranoid to do anything and make a move to do anything. 1087 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,680 So I mean, just gives you a real human element. How he sees 1088 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,279 success. I used to work with one of his sister in laws, so 1089 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:18,680 actually both two of them, now I think about it. So then during 1090 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:24,000 all that, Kevin, I guess, is pretty upset with us. I 1091 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,680 think he's upset with me. Yeah, I hope. So I don't think 1092 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,199 he's upset with you. No, I think he's upset with me. Well 1093 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,239 what so, okay, let let's let's kind of put this out last night. 1094 01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:35,119 Well no, no, it's just a recap for people. I know 1095 01:15:35,359 --> 01:15:41,039 it helps me, helps me. They give you, like the previous episodes, 1096 01:15:41,079 --> 01:15:45,000 so you know what to talk about on Monday. On Sunday, after 1097 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,800 the Bills game, we were at Greg Connor's house and Kevin uh has and 1098 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,880 and I think this is great. Kevin has ingratiated himself. And I mean 1099 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,800 that in a positive way. Yes, too many people who have kind of 1100 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,800 been in my orbit and around the podcast, Greg Connor being one of them. 1101 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,079 He's been a friend for a while, and Greg has kind of welcomed 1102 01:16:03,079 --> 01:16:10,039 to everybody, and he's very very hospitable. He likes my wife more than 1103 01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:13,479 he likes me. He's great, he's very generous for things. So we 1104 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,319 did the podcast over there, and he has helped Kevin with some I think 1105 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,039 personal things that have been going on with his mom and stuff and just giving 1106 01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:28,479 advice. And so Kevin brought a Christmas gift and Kevin presented it to Greg 1107 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,520 on the air, and then it seemed like he thought you were offended. 1108 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,239 So I made a comment, but I'm used to the world of radio where 1109 01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:39,560 you kind of like fill the gaps and stuff like like like Tommy and you 1110 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,039 and I would always do with each other, like you just throw in some 1111 01:16:42,079 --> 01:16:45,359 commentary as a realized like sometimes I just I hear it. But yeah, 1112 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,920 and I said, oh, this is what we're giving the gifts. Oh, 1113 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,760 I'm sorry. Yeah, And I don't even remember saying it, but 1114 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,800 Kevin texted me the next day said, hey, I didn't mean to make 1115 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,560 you feel bad, right, So then you read that text on the air 1116 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,319 last night on the podcast, because you know, because we made a comic 1117 01:17:00,319 --> 01:17:02,920 book. I always break Kevin's balls when he's here or not right, you 1118 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,359 know, and thinking that I know he's going to listen to the podcast and 1119 01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:12,279 then you're back at some point. We got this whole thing where Kevin's gift 1120 01:17:12,359 --> 01:17:16,520 of four buffalo bill shot glass in the flask are from Aisle four of the 1121 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,720 Dollar Store, right, and then he said, he just said, in 1122 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:24,560 a little while ago, he goes, where's Kevin tonight? Out shopping for 1123 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:30,760 Greg's gift and the Delta Sonic collect all eight Buffalo Bill's glasses, you know, 1124 01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:33,119 just being a wise ass. Yeah. So, uh so I thought 1125 01:17:33,119 --> 01:17:35,760 it was just an off the cup from Mark and sorry. I got a 1126 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:42,840 very quick call from Kevin today because we were supposed to have somebody on the 1127 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,199 podcast with us tonight and they could not They could not make it. They 1128 01:17:46,359 --> 01:17:48,600 were not feeling well. So he called me and goes, hey, I 1129 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:54,079 just got a call from it was supposed to be a private chef who cooks 1130 01:17:54,119 --> 01:17:58,520 with THC who said he can't make it tonight. And I said okay, 1131 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,279 and he goes all right, and that was it. Hung up, Nor 1132 01:18:00,279 --> 01:18:04,399 are There's a little more conversation that I didn't know more so, but you 1133 01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:08,880 know what I didn't. I just thought it's probably busy and I'm busy, 1134 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,119 and I don't you know, So I got it. So I got a 1135 01:18:11,159 --> 01:18:14,840 text from Kevin and he wasn't too happy with me from saying that, and 1136 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,159 because I read the text that he sent me on there, because I said 1137 01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:19,000 it was no big deal. Then he explained why he gave Greg the gift, 1138 01:18:19,399 --> 01:18:21,600 and I'm like, bro, it's it's really, it's okay. But 1139 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:25,399 we were kind of just talking about how Kevin is always kind of like just 1140 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,680 you know, wants to make sure everything's okay because he could be a little 1141 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,479 nervous sometimes, so he wants to just explain things. And I'm like, 1142 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,159 that's all I was trying to describe that, you know, Kevin like sometimes 1143 01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:35,399 overexplains things to make a point. I'm like, no, it's no big 1144 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:40,199 deal. Really, you weren't hurting my feelings. You didn't embarrass me or 1145 01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:43,479 anything like that. I planned to give it Greg something and you and everybody 1146 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,760 and Kevin too, and everybody was part of the podcast, and I just 1147 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,399 I just made that comment, and so he got upset that I read the 1148 01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:53,479 text on the air, and I sent him an apology note and I haven't 1149 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,119 heard back from him. And the thing is, you sent him an apology, 1150 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,880 an apology text saying like, hey, I'm I'm sorry. It wasn't 1151 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,239 meant for that. We break each other's balls all the time, and it 1152 01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:06,479 was just like I was just having fun with it. But I know you 1153 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,359 listen to the podcast. It's not like I was talking behind your back. 1154 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,479 I was saying it into a microphone, knowing full well you would listen. 1155 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,640 I figured, like today when you know, when he finally listened, you 1156 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,960 know you'd probably respond back. Oh he did, but it was it wasn't 1157 01:19:21,079 --> 01:19:24,159 flattering, and he was I guess he didn't like what I had to say. 1158 01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:27,119 What did he say? I'll read? Should I read this text? 1159 01:19:27,239 --> 01:19:30,199 Yes? Because because you know he wait, hang on, hang on hand 1160 01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,560 before you do that, Okay, before you get that. Uh, I 1161 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,720 need to find the right accompaniment while sticking End of the Road by Boys to 1162 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,039 Men, Where with the dude, where the dude goes? Baby, I'm 1163 01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:44,359 sorry. I didn't mean to cause you no pain, all right, because 1164 01:19:44,359 --> 01:19:45,880 I was gonna find some soap opera music. Okay, but I think the 1165 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,560 End of the Road from boys men hang on, don't don't, don't, 1166 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,439 don't jump on it. Hang on. We gotta get we gotta make this 1167 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:56,640 right, dandy okay mood. Yeah, and maybe you can come up with 1168 01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:05,880 a heartfelt Christmas inspired apology for what you've done, you silly bastard. Hey, 1169 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:12,039 Kevin, sorry about that. I thought I was breaking balls and I 1170 01:20:12,119 --> 01:20:15,159 know you listen, so I didn't think anything of it. This is what 1171 01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:16,720 you wrote. I wrote him, Okay, keep going and the way you're 1172 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,800 doing it, and thought you'd take it as ball busting, like lighthearted character 1173 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,920 stuff we used to do in radio. I had my balls broken all the 1174 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,760 time by Tommy and Mulet. He was great at it. I didn't. 1175 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,000 Oh, I didn't, and he'd tell me quit pounding brow and that kind 1176 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,079 of toughened me up a little bit. I didn't realize that would bother you 1177 01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:39,279 or else. I wouldn't have said anything. Now I know better, so 1178 01:20:39,359 --> 01:20:43,039 I apologize. It wasn't intended for. It will come back to me. 1179 01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:47,359 Kevin bade you come back to me last probably through What did he write too? 1180 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,600 He didn't respond to that. What did he write originally? Did you 1181 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,600 read that? Yeah? I can respect it. You did not read that? 1182 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,479 No, No, I'm just reading what I wrote. Yes, but 1183 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,079 I want to hear what he wrote you, dude, I listened to the 1184 01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:01,600 show last night. Thanks for reading my text, Tony. I think he 1185 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:06,680 meant to write to you. He was writing fast. That's when you're angry, 1186 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:11,039 you fat finger it on the show, or you're just Kevin, Yeah, 1187 01:21:11,279 --> 01:21:15,439 thanks for reading my text Tony on the show and making me sound like 1188 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,319 a little bitch. FYI, I'm not coming into night now. Wow. 1189 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:26,119 I feel bad now that I read that. Wow. I didn't even get 1190 01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:29,960 that. So that's why I didn't want to read it, because now, 1191 01:21:30,319 --> 01:21:34,119 like now, really could have kept it Tomorrow. Kevin, come back to 1192 01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:43,680 me. I'm sorry, baby, I didn't mean yeah. Can please forget 1193 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,800 me a baby? Can you handle it? I'm so sorry, Kevin. 1194 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,079 I know Belichick's leaving New England. I'm sure that that's probably on his mind, 1195 01:21:49,119 --> 01:21:51,520 but I mean we were just having fun with him, which we always 1196 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,399 I know he listens to the podcast every day, so I figured he you 1197 01:21:55,399 --> 01:21:58,640 know, responded kind with like a ball break in comment of his own, 1198 01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:01,399 but he was pretty up set. So I apologize Kevin. At first, 1199 01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:04,319 I was like, is he joking or is he serious? But it wasn't 1200 01:22:04,359 --> 01:22:06,800 meant for that. And to be honest with you, it's like it's like 1201 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,840 the Sean mcdervitt stuf. It really is not that big a deal. Let's 1202 01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:16,039 see, we're trying to call Kevin, hey man, hey man, we're 1203 01:22:16,079 --> 01:22:23,399 on the podcast. How you doing. I can barely hear you, guys, 1204 01:22:23,399 --> 01:22:27,560 I'm at the rate. All right, Well we're on the podcast and 1205 01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:35,680 uh, Danny has just read your text on the air. Is that the 1206 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:45,840 World Cup? Did Tyler score? Yeah? What a cool moment, What 1207 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,279 a cool moment. Uh No, Danny was just we're calling because you said 1208 01:22:50,279 --> 01:22:56,399 you weren't coming in tonight because of uh, because you were upset with Danny 1209 01:22:56,399 --> 01:22:58,840 reading the text on the air. So we were trying to smooth things over. 1210 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,279 Up we lost him. He hung up on us. Baby, I'm 1211 01:23:04,319 --> 01:23:10,720 sorry right here, yeah, right now. Just so much pain, so 1212 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:15,239 much pain, and he won't come back to us. Just come back here, 1213 01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:19,800 you go, you guys, I can't hear you. He's what he 1214 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:27,760 said, he I feel pain to Kevin please. Well, well we'll find 1215 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,079 out to tomorrow. Yeah, apparently Cliffhanger. That was not playing, folks. 1216 01:23:32,119 --> 01:23:33,760 I mean, I feel terrible, but at the same time, like 1217 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,159 he breaks my balls all the time, he breaks yours. I don't have 1218 01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:40,119 a problem with it. I don't care. Like I've learned to loosen up 1219 01:23:40,159 --> 01:23:42,800 over the years and not take myself so serious. I'm not. He does 1220 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,520 tell you're better better, what part do we need to prove it? That's 1221 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,119 even season little bit. You get wound up. I do get wound up 1222 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,159 during that Tyler done, I was, I got wound up defending Tyler. 1223 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:59,119 Well, yeah, I was very impassionate. I was trying to my fear 1224 01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:03,319 with the Tyler thing was I didn't want to be too soft. I guess 1225 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:08,520 we were just right, but I felt like, you know, I didn't 1226 01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,319 have the same view as other people, and so I reread the article and 1227 01:24:12,359 --> 01:24:16,079 I had even less of the same view of other people. But uh so 1228 01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:19,520 that's why I because I don't want people to think anybody have on you just 1229 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:24,039 kind of kissed their ass. Well, no, we clearly don't. Maybe 1230 01:24:24,079 --> 01:24:27,920 we got a guy who's not who's bad at me right now. So I 1231 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,479 mean, I just I didn't mean that to hair off because that's a big 1232 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,760 ask to kiss buddy. But don't we do that all the time, don't 1233 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:39,000 we like breaking? I mean, he breaks my life. Just so I'm 1234 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,720 sorry, Kevin, I'm sorry, and I you know, I just won't, 1235 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,119 all right, I won't mention. Maybe what we do is we give 1236 01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:51,680 Kevin a Woodcliffe. Maybe you should call up. We have one hundred dollars 1237 01:24:53,239 --> 01:25:00,359 Woodcliffe Hotel and spa gift cards and you can use these at this unbelievable jam 1238 01:25:00,399 --> 01:25:03,039 of a place right here, right here, right here in the greater Rochester 1239 01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:06,720 area over look as. If you're Syracuse, come on up. If you're 1240 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,880 in the Buffalo area, we're getting a lot more listeners in Buffalo. Come 1241 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,720 down. You will love it there. Yeah, and you can book your 1242 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,760 own thing. Go to Woodcliffe Hotel spa dot com and and you'll find all 1243 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,359 kinds of they have, like I think it's slash winter Fest and you'll find 1244 01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:24,960 all kinds of things on there. I should actually find that before I tell 1245 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,760 you, I had, I had the script right in front of you. 1246 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,920 But here's the point. We have one hundred dollars gift cards to give away. 1247 01:25:30,319 --> 01:25:34,119 You can get a really, really a couple of wonderful treatments at their 1248 01:25:34,199 --> 01:25:39,960 high end spa, their upscale spa there, or you could go and have 1249 01:25:40,039 --> 01:25:43,840 it toward dinner, or you could use it toward an overnight stay, whatever 1250 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:50,039 you want. I please call five eight five to zero six eighty eight sixty 1251 01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:55,920 six and uh people will somebody's gonna win it. We're gonna give one away, 1252 01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,039 uh tomorrow. Oh cool, Okay, Yeah, we're gonna give one 1253 01:25:59,039 --> 01:26:02,319 away tomorrow and actually another one next week for Christmas. Yeah. See, 1254 01:26:02,319 --> 01:26:06,079 here's the thing. The guy I would choose has actually left a voicemail. 1255 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:12,199 I don't think I recorded it because it's somebody I know, but I want 1256 01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:15,239 to get the story as to what happened. But this friend of mine who 1257 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,279 was fairly close with me, and you know, life goes on. You 1258 01:26:18,359 --> 01:26:21,680 have kids and stuff, you say stupid things. I'm text and people don't 1259 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:27,039 stop talking to you. He said that he almost died six weeks ago. 1260 01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:30,920 I think he may have had a heart attack. And he is not a 1261 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,439 guy that you look at and go heart attack. Oh it sounds like me. 1262 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,359 Yeah, Now I look at you, I say heart attack. I 1263 01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:41,520 do. Oh yeah, all right, he said, uh, nine to 1264 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,239 one one was called and it saved his life. So I will maybe we'll 1265 01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:48,600 call him. Okay, tomorrow is part of our thing. And then tomorrow 1266 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:54,199 also we will be joined by Stephanie and Mike. Oh wow, yeah, 1267 01:26:54,279 --> 01:26:58,399 Stephanie ied and her her boyfriend Mike. Uh yes, so yeah, Peter 1268 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:02,000 too. You can go to wood Cliff Hotel, spat dot com slash winter 1269 01:27:03,039 --> 01:27:09,479 and I mean all your winter dreams become the merriest of guests. Yes, 1270 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,560 absolutely, But I'm just telling you this is a great place and what a 1271 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,680 fun place to even just go grab a drink. Stop in there during the 1272 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,479 holidays, check it out, check it out a little bit. The wine 1273 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:26,079 bar is impressive and really knowledgeable bar staff and very open and friendly. It's 1274 01:27:26,119 --> 01:27:28,399 just I'm telling you it's a gem. If you haven't been there in a 1275 01:27:28,399 --> 01:27:30,840 while, get out to the Woodcliffe Hotel and spot and find out more at 1276 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:41,000 Woodcliffe Hotel SPA dot com o, Connors and Pharamis had two six to two 1277 01:27:41,039 --> 01:27:44,880 comp today Iron Smoke Distillery in Fairport, New York. Man, I am 1278 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:49,199 so proud of what's happening in Fairport and what's happening at the cannery. And 1279 01:27:49,319 --> 01:27:55,439 really you can attribute that to the vision that Tommy Burnett had. It all 1280 01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,479 starts with an idea, man, it all starts with an idea. Tommy 1281 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,920 had it, and now from that idea has created what Forbes Magazine has called 1282 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:08,439 one of the ten best bourbons outside of Kentucky. It's phenomenal. Pick it 1283 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,000 up for the holidays, go in there and enjoy some live music. It's 1284 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,720 just such a cool space that they've developed over there. I love the Peacemaker. 1285 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,520 It's a craft cocktail they make with the iron smoked whiskey. But go 1286 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,520 in there. Thursday, December fourteenth, Blue twenty two is playing. It's 1287 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,119 a four piece band that plays a combination of early classic rock and some original 1288 01:28:25,159 --> 01:28:28,359 tunes. It's only five bucks to get in. Friday night, they have 1289 01:28:28,399 --> 01:28:31,720 something called the Acoustic Sunset Sessions. They begin in five it's free and it's 1290 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:36,520 Tyler Norton. He's really talented. He'll be playing there and then beginning at 1291 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:43,680 eight thirty Friday, December fifteenth, Hall Pass playing all your hits from the 1292 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:48,159 eighties ten buck cover. It's at Iron Smoke Distillery right here in Fairport, 1293 01:28:48,199 --> 01:29:01,920 New York. Baby Jimmy Z's Plates and Shakes. You know I'm sitting here 1294 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,039 craving the bacon, mushrooms Swiss burger from Jimmy Z's Plates and Shakes, one 1295 01:29:06,039 --> 01:29:10,239 of my all time favorites. On a potato bun, potato roll, Oh 1296 01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:15,800 so good, third pound ground beef patty, Swiss cheese. It's just perfectly 1297 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:20,880 melted with the mushrooms and bacon. Oh. I gotta go out to Brockboard 1298 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,640 Wednesday through Sunday. They're rocking there. They're online twenty four to seven like 1299 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,319 everybody at platesinshakes dot com, where you can get gift cards for the holidays, 1300 01:29:30,319 --> 01:29:34,199 perfect stocking stuff for nice little add on for your employees Jimmy Z's Plates 1301 01:29:34,199 --> 01:30:06,520 and Shakes at plates and Shakes dot com. So I don't remember that's when 1302 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:12,680 this said. I lost my own. It's one headlights, you know what. 1303 01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:18,000 I'm realizing it doesn't feel like Christmas this year for me. Yeah, 1304 01:30:18,319 --> 01:30:21,760 I don't know why I didn't go through this. I go through this every 1305 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,800 year or so it doesn't feel like it's Christmas. No, I have so 1306 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,439 much on the ground or maybe but I just have so much stuff going on 1307 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,319 that I haven't and I haven't been you know, my kids and stuff. 1308 01:30:31,359 --> 01:30:34,600 I didn't put my tree up in my place. I will. I will 1309 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:41,359 do that. I think it's good for the uh your mental state and all 1310 01:30:41,399 --> 01:30:46,319 that stuff. But I just haven't. And uh so tonight I actually found 1311 01:30:46,319 --> 01:30:50,800 myself getting annoyed with somebody and and it almost feels like I shouldn't say that 1312 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:56,479 I was annoyed. But there was a car parked out here and on the 1313 01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,880 roof is a speaker. But it's like a tenny speaker and there lasting music, 1314 01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,279 but they're not they're not blasting Christmas music. They're just blasting like pop 1315 01:31:04,399 --> 01:31:10,000 music or whatever. So I walk outside what is going on? And I 1316 01:31:10,079 --> 01:31:20,600 look? I look, and it's a car with a manora on top and 1317 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:25,439 they're playing. And I know satellite radio is like the Hanuka channel, and 1318 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,720 it's like, you know, just a lot of talented artists were Jewish, 1319 01:31:30,119 --> 01:31:33,000 and so I think that's what they're playing on that channel. But I was 1320 01:31:33,039 --> 01:31:38,159 just trying to record something. Time I'm getting annoyed and it's blaring and it's 1321 01:31:38,199 --> 01:31:41,000 just sitting out there and it's tinny and it's not even I go, what 1322 01:31:41,079 --> 01:31:43,560 is going on? And then they go, are you allowed to say anything 1323 01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,479 in the state of the world anymore? That I was annoyed? And the 1324 01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,840 guy I wouldn't care if they had Christmas tree standing on top of it. 1325 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,199 I was still would have been annoyed. It was just But can I say 1326 01:31:51,359 --> 01:31:55,199 because it was a manora, are you allowed to say that I was annoyed 1327 01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:58,840 at this person for blasting tiny music that you couldn't really hear. It was 1328 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,079 echoing off a building, It was parked in a no parking area anyway, 1329 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:08,760 Okay, it doesn't matter what what flavor. And then I so then I'm 1330 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:13,560 thinking, what if you live next to somebody that just goes over the top 1331 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,840 with the decorations, so you can't sleep at night because like the lights like 1332 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,479 going into your wind. When I lived, when I lived for a very 1333 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:26,520 brief minute in Webster, there was a guy that every year did this outrageous 1334 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,920 over the top display. People would slow down. It was kind of you 1335 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:30,880 know, people hit and it's cute for the kids to see it. All. 1336 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,159 I go, but if you live next to that guy, you need 1337 01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:38,399 blackout curtains in every fucking room that faces that side of the house. It 1338 01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,880 would annoy the shit and you live across room you need it. It was 1339 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,279 like, I got, it's funny because like they have zoning laws for a 1340 01:32:43,319 --> 01:32:45,399 reason. So does the zoning loss not count during the holidays. I don't, 1341 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,279 Well, what's the zoning law? Yeah, probably not. I don't 1342 01:32:49,279 --> 01:32:51,800 know that they zoned for that. Now, hang on, it's funny you 1343 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:56,560 bring this up. I see an article in the New York Times and I 1344 01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,520 go, wait a second, that's near where I grew up, La Grangeville. 1345 01:33:01,399 --> 01:33:06,359 La Grangeville is like this just nowhere, middle nowhere town. Didn't easy, 1346 01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:13,840 No, that was the grange another nowhere of town. Yeah, So 1347 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:20,239 I'm reading about this and it's the whole article is about the Grangeville and this 1348 01:33:20,279 --> 01:33:27,039 guy that goes over the top every year to I don't know, for the 1349 01:33:27,119 --> 01:33:30,279 Christmas display, and it says a couple of New York state name Tim and 1350 01:33:30,319 --> 01:33:35,840 Grace Gay. The Gays hold the record for the most Christmas lights on a 1351 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:40,960 residential property. Back in twenty twelve they put up over three hundred and forty 1352 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:45,159 six thousand lights. Then they beat their own record in twenty fourteen by almost 1353 01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:50,239 doubling that with over six hundred thousand. How they count them probably each ball 1354 01:33:50,319 --> 01:33:55,439 who knows, well if they if it's a record, and I don't know. 1355 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,880 It doesn't say it's a Guinness record, so I don't know. Thousands 1356 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,359 of people visit their house every December in the Rangeville, just outside Poughkeepsie and 1357 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:05,520 it is sort outside Pokeepsie. They use it as a fundraiser for local charities 1358 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:09,760 and they've raised close to seven hundred thousand dollars over the year. Oh wow, 1359 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,720 that's a wonderful thing. That's very nice. Okay, we can give 1360 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,279 them that, right, that's a lot of money, right, But now 1361 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:23,319 they're dealing with a growing distaste among their neighbors. You're a mean one. 1362 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:27,520 I get it. I get it. And by the way, you got 1363 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,079 that many light bulbs. I don't care if you're doing it for charity pal 1364 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,439 Bro. If NASA can get the year from the Space Show, you got 1365 01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,840 a problem. Got a little problem, all right. One thing, when 1366 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:39,920 you're last Vegas, the lights are very bright. There's an endless line of 1367 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:43,760 cars, and they blast music through big speakers. I would I'd have to 1368 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,199 move. Oh yeah, because people want to see it. I'd have to 1369 01:34:45,239 --> 01:34:50,239 move. A guy named ed Edward I don't know how you pronounced his last 1370 01:34:50,279 --> 01:34:55,800 name, compared it to running a lego land out of your property for forty 1371 01:34:56,079 --> 01:34:59,920 days a year. So they start this in the beginning of November and problem 1372 01:35:00,199 --> 01:35:03,119 run through New Year. He ran for a seat. This guy ran for 1373 01:35:03,159 --> 01:35:08,159 a seat on the town board last year just to make the city rain in 1374 01:35:08,199 --> 01:35:11,720 the display. His only purpose to get on the board was to get a 1375 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,319 neighbor to cut the shit. That's wow, this is phenomenal. I want 1376 01:35:15,319 --> 01:35:19,920 to find this guy, and I will, But he lost with fifteen percent 1377 01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,840 of the vote. That was his only platform, so no one's own for 1378 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:28,399 him. This year's display is bigger than ever and should set another record. 1379 01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:33,159 They say. It includes over seven hundred and twenty thousand lights, one thousand, 1380 01:35:33,239 --> 01:35:38,279 seven hundred seventeen hundred strobes, and a playlist with two hundred and fifty 1381 01:35:38,279 --> 01:35:41,279 five songs. See the strobes in the playlist are what would drive me nuts. 1382 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,159 I think the lights you might be able to get used to if they 1383 01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:46,520 don't, like keep flashing, or if they flash at a certain pattern you 1384 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,720 use when you get to the strobes, I mean you could get you could 1385 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,720 like, if you have usual Wepsi you could Yeah, they open even if 1386 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,399 you don't. If you get that stuff, you could like we're those cartoons 1387 01:35:56,399 --> 01:35:59,039 in Japan they were talking about that would make a kid sick. So they 1388 01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:01,720 okay, so it's not forty days like that guy said. They open the 1389 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:06,239 day after Thanksgiving and it runs through December twenty eighth. Now they don't plan 1390 01:36:06,319 --> 01:36:10,520 to do it forever. They say, once they hit the grand total of 1391 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,159 one million dollars in donations, they'll stop. Man, I would be finals 1392 01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:21,720 be taking bank loans. Yeah, you're like shaming people into donating to tear 1393 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:27,800 down your lights. Just turn it off, pleaseh there you go. I 1394 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,279 don't not really give them from the heart. Now. Look, if you 1395 01:36:30,319 --> 01:36:33,079 go to like the Fairgrounds and you drive through, or there's some place down 1396 01:36:33,159 --> 01:36:36,640 in Syracuse along Onondaga Lake that you can go through the park and it's their 1397 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,159 place in Victory where you can do that. That's lovely. That's great. 1398 01:36:40,279 --> 01:36:44,920 Yeah, that's great. You're shining in my fucking bedroom. I'm annoyed. 1399 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,600 We got a problem. I'm annoyed you got a problem, Danny. You 1400 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,039 have a wife, Yeah I do. I've had I've had too. If 1401 01:36:50,039 --> 01:36:53,680 you're collecting the total, yeah, I have one right now. Yes, 1402 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:58,840 no, you're beating me. You'll catch you up. No, no, 1403 01:36:59,039 --> 01:37:01,000 you ain't gonna get married again. Ah good, good, Okay, I'm 1404 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:06,399 all right. I thought the same thing. No, me and Doug turn 1405 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,760 into Doug starting to watch. I want to start getting involved in some wills 1406 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,680 though, Bill, Yeah, well will planning for I'm just saying what I 1407 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,399 didn't explain properly. Like when I said Doug's house looks like a fort, 1408 01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,920 what I mean is it's like a little kid's fort. You know what I 1409 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,239 mean? Like a little kid gets Did he get offended? Did he get 1410 01:37:21,319 --> 01:37:24,520 upset? When you said not? But I'm just saying, like, you 1411 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,880 go in like the kids got hey, hey, we built the room over 1412 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,760 the garage. It's the kid's fort in there. You know, that's what 1413 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,199 Doug's house is like. And then you go in and I mean there's things 1414 01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:36,800 that would just never happen if a woman lived there. The ship wouldn't be 1415 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:43,600 like this. Yeah, it's clutters coming down, coming down. You got 1416 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,199 all the uh these forty nine ers ship that's just awkwardly around the room. 1417 01:37:46,279 --> 01:37:49,600 Some of it needs to be dusted. He's got his sex swing for the 1418 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:54,399 plant right that has no plant in it, hanging from the ceiling. That's 1419 01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,600 never happening. I got That's all I'm saying. Ah, but no, 1420 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,880 Yeah, I have a wife and home and so there's a story that I 1421 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:08,439 sometimes meds that I saw that I always go these things are are very creepy. 1422 01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:12,000 But I would be an awful partner to have in a situation like this. 1423 01:38:13,119 --> 01:38:15,439 But I will let you. Uh, this is a story out of 1424 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:21,560 Denver, but we've had similar things happen here with neighbors in the park Hill 1425 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:26,199 community on high alert after they say a man broke into several homes and stole 1426 01:38:26,319 --> 01:38:31,600 intimate items, including women's underwear. The one homeowner even left because that's somebody 1427 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,199 would do that. Yes, it's yes, isn't that? It's somewhat disturbing 1428 01:38:35,239 --> 01:38:41,039 that someone would do that, I would think and I laugh. But my 1429 01:38:41,039 --> 01:38:45,119 my initial thought is I get it's uncomfortable, it's creepy, but nothing happened. 1430 01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:48,079 But then you have to go, well, what's the next level? 1431 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:54,199 Right? Where does this stop? And usually these things don't regress. They 1432 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:59,000 progress been captured video of who police are calling up potential suspect and at least 1433 01:38:59,319 --> 01:39:00,279 one of these case, he says Fox, if he wants a Leah simm 1434 01:39:00,319 --> 01:39:04,760 spoke to some of those neighbors today, A Leah God, hey, Aleah, 1435 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:09,159 nice panties. Look at that man? Get this one day where I 1436 01:39:09,159 --> 01:39:13,199 spoke to who tells me the bizarre situation has happened to her and her roommate 1437 01:39:13,239 --> 01:39:16,079 on not one, not two, but three separate occasions. You guys should 1438 01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:19,359 start selling them. He takes some fucking money. Ladies, you got a 1439 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:26,159 the dazzle. Oh that's terrible. Now, that would be very uncomfortable it's 1440 01:39:26,199 --> 01:39:30,079 uncomfortable to know that anybody has been in your space when you're not there. 1441 01:39:30,199 --> 01:39:33,960 When you're not there, you feel very violated. Some of the items that 1442 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:39,000 you think that a thief would want to steal, he totally passed over completely. 1443 01:39:39,079 --> 01:39:44,880 I mean money, medications like PlayStations, computers, didn't didn't even grab 1444 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,199 any of that. She's recalling them. Hey, it comes to all my 1445 01:39:46,319 --> 01:39:50,840 stuff. He wanted anew he wanted he wanted a PlayStation, baby, she 1446 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,840 said. I mean, that's just I mean the fact that she actually said, 1447 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,760 Hey, here's all this stuff in my asse. They're gonna have other 1448 01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:00,560 creeps coming by. Has this man broken to her home? She asked to 1449 01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,520 remain anonymous, but tells me the first time he came through her window in 1450 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,680 July, all the lights were on in the house. It seemed like he 1451 01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:10,439 chose to come when there was someone there. My roommate was asleep in my 1452 01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,920 bedroom. I was not home at the time, she says. Her roommate 1453 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,560 grabbed a knife and went to approach the man, and showing my roommate into 1454 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:19,359 the wall, my roommate stabbed him twice. Pretty shallow he had something in 1455 01:40:19,399 --> 01:40:25,479 it. Seeing she slashed him as probably what happened. Maybe yeah, right, 1456 01:40:26,119 --> 01:40:29,680 I don't know his mouth it was a sexual toy. That's when she 1457 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,359 tells me was cold and he ran. All right now, and now I 1458 01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:36,159 take it all back. If a guy's in her house with a sex toy 1459 01:40:36,199 --> 01:40:42,079 in his mouth and he's going through your roommate's underwear drawer, I'm you freaked 1460 01:40:42,119 --> 01:40:45,720 the fuck out. Yeah, she drove that knife and heartedly ran. She 1461 01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:50,359 says he came back three weeks later. Man, he must like the center 1462 01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:56,479 or something, this time captured on video. Saturday, she saw a post 1463 01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,079 from a neighbor on next door telling a very similar story. I went into 1464 01:41:00,119 --> 01:41:05,439 my office and I noticed that the window was wide open. There was no 1465 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:10,279 scream, which I thought was really weird because every time you leave the house 1466 01:41:10,319 --> 01:41:14,760 I always make sure whose are clones. She didn't think much of it until 1467 01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,119 she started to get dressed and I got looking through my doors. I noticed 1468 01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:25,079 that all my underwear had been on mixing. Neighbors, terrified to sleep at 1469 01:41:25,159 --> 01:41:29,199 night, are now hoping the man can be caught. And by the way, 1470 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,920 where are their boyfriends or husbands? Jesus Christ, get a fucking bat 1471 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,920 and go it. Seriously, No that's weird as the one. No, 1472 01:41:38,039 --> 01:41:43,239 I can't take the whining anymore, and I can't take you coming in here 1473 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,840 right. I need to fucking sleep. You're now, you know you know 1474 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,880 what? You scared my wife? I got that. Now you're disrupting my 1475 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:54,159 life. It's all about me, and I'm going to kill you soon. 1476 01:41:54,279 --> 01:41:57,439 It seems dangerous at this point. He needs me caught, he needs me 1477 01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:01,079 stopped. He's not going to stop until we do something. Yeah, and 1478 01:42:01,159 --> 01:42:05,079 police tell me this man could be linked to both of those homes because of 1479 01:42:05,079 --> 01:42:09,760 the similar stories and how closely the women live to one another. But investigators 1480 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,680 are working to gather more information. If you can help identify this man or 1481 01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,560 locate him, your acts to contact our partners at Metro Denver Crime Stoppers in 1482 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,600 studio. Elijah Simms, Fox thirty one, all Right, there you go. 1483 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:24,720 I'd asks for a new boyfriend, right, alright, alright, alright, 1484 01:42:25,079 --> 01:42:28,960 what I wasn't gonna say, Uh, that's a very creepy thing, 1485 01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:30,760 and it is. Yeah, I mean, I'm making horrible, making, 1486 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:38,439 very stupid bass jokes. But I do think like I am surprised that. 1487 01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,239 I mean, if your wife's upset, you're pissed. If your wife's upset 1488 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:48,640 because somebody has done something physically that just makes your whole person feel unsafe. 1489 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:54,520 You're it bothers you. You want to go seek a little justice, Yes, 1490 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,640 go somewhere, take the law into your own hands. Well, I 1491 01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,760 mean you shouldn't. That's a bad idea. We don't. Don't be a 1492 01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:01,399 fit landing. But you know, baseball Bath, this was Texas, but 1493 01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:06,319 that's not it's Colorado. No. But I'm saying either way, usually those 1494 01:43:06,359 --> 01:43:10,239 things don't end well. No, they usually don't end well. But oh 1495 01:43:10,239 --> 01:43:12,760 my goodness. Yeah, I mean like, we had a friend that tried 1496 01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,239 to tase somebody at a bar and that guy wrestled the taser away and tased 1497 01:43:15,319 --> 01:43:19,640 him. And that man's name was Joe Riccadoo got tased by his own taser 1498 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:24,960 in the bar trying to defend a woman. I think just took it, 1499 01:43:25,359 --> 01:43:29,039 flipped Joe around, boom, put him on the ground, and then like 1500 01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:36,920 it. Yeah, it's like fucking like you soldier. So there you go. 1501 01:43:39,119 --> 01:43:42,119 But if that happened to Bath, yeah, I'd be pretty up. 1502 01:43:42,119 --> 01:43:45,159 So you're gonna be on the prow Oh yeah, Like you don't want to 1503 01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:48,279 wait outside. I would be like Mike the Dad. That's the first guy 1504 01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:51,560 I thought, Yeah, late, great, like the dad who's almost I 1505 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:56,439 still have his last voicemail on my phone. I've never erased it passed away 1506 01:43:56,479 --> 01:44:00,479 and went twenty fourteen. Yeah, and he he used to talk about it, 1507 01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,439 like, hey, Danny, what I went. I sat in the 1508 01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,119 truck. I was waiting for that. I was waiting for that guy. 1509 01:44:06,399 --> 01:44:12,000 He's gonna come around. Yeah. Like he literally had a machete, he 1510 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,279 said, you and tommy machetes. Remember, I didn't realize how big those 1511 01:44:15,279 --> 01:44:17,279 things were. They're like practically swords, yeah they are. But like that's 1512 01:44:17,279 --> 01:44:19,640 like where you need a guy like Mike the Dad on your side, be 1513 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:23,319 like, yeah, I'll want your neighborhood. You should sit in this truck 1514 01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:25,800 and watch the neighborhood sometimes, he said, just to keep the peace. 1515 01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:30,840 We just went off off camera. The iPad died. I don't know, 1516 01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:33,199 flipping over to the phone. It's fine, but yeah, that's that's I 1517 01:44:33,279 --> 01:44:39,039 mean, that's that's that's I mean, it's it's violation. It's a violation 1518 01:44:39,159 --> 01:44:42,119 of your privacy. And you don't know who this person is. Clearly you 1519 01:44:42,199 --> 01:44:44,560 know they're a creep and they're a nut and what are they gonna do? 1520 01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,199 Now, that's the thing. It's like there you can't And the other thing 1521 01:44:47,279 --> 01:44:53,199 is, like I believe the saying is you can't fight crazy, either verbally 1522 01:44:53,319 --> 01:44:55,560 or any other way. You don't want to get involved with the guy, 1523 01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,760 like you don't know what's gonna happen. Better off not if you could hold 1524 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,039 them, detain them, if you could hold to make gun point, I 1525 01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:05,000 guess I don't know, But like he's begun fake? Do they not know 1526 01:45:05,039 --> 01:45:09,399 who the guy is? No, they got pictures video of him. The 1527 01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,359 one girl stabbed them. No, I understand that part, but like like 1528 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,439 that sounds like they don't know who he is. Okay, it's not I 1529 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,479 understand what you're saying because they have an inside job. No, it sounds 1530 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:24,359 like a guy who saw pretty girls on the street and decided that's where they 1531 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:32,520 live. Yeah, there's just some nutty people. Just it's kind of nuts. 1532 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,479 It smells like peach. I mean that's what it would be. Yeah, 1533 01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,880 all right, tomorrow to get one of those candles by what's your name? 1534 01:45:41,159 --> 01:45:46,399 What the coop? Yeah, it's Gwyneth Paltrow. Do that. Gwyneth 1535 01:45:46,399 --> 01:45:53,479 PALTROW'SJJ, I would say something else. But tomorrow we have Dan Mason, 1536 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,279 who is the general manager of our Rochester Red Wings coming in. Uh. 1537 01:45:57,319 --> 01:46:00,760 They do some great social media stuff. We'll talk to him. Uh. 1538 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:06,520 We will have our Peter on let me rephrase it came out completely. We 1539 01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:13,000 will have our Peter On Peter to talk about the all twenty two what he 1540 01:46:13,079 --> 01:46:18,479 saw. Uh. And I do wonder if Tyler Dunn's article had changed the 1541 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:23,680 way McDermott coached the game at the end, in the crucial moments. I 1542 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,880 don't know, just a theory. But part of the piece is that when 1543 01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,800 they were in Tampa Bay a couple of years ago, it was actually about 1544 01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,359 this about this time of year, two years ago, because I remember because 1545 01:46:31,399 --> 01:46:34,560 I had a friend died that night of COVID. They're playing that they're playing 1546 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:39,000 in Tampa Bay. They're down like twenty four to seven in the fourth quarter, 1547 01:46:39,039 --> 01:46:43,119 and the Bills miraculously come back and then throw Tampa Bay on the ropes. 1548 01:46:43,159 --> 01:46:46,640 Now they end up losing in overtime because of because like the defense, 1549 01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,159 you know, fed up. But the point is, though, is that 1550 01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:54,399 in the article, if you get over the nine to eleven stuff. He 1551 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:58,199 talks about how the offensive coaches said, screw you, coach, here's what 1552 01:46:58,199 --> 01:47:00,159 we're doing, Josh, here's the you just throw it and you go. 1553 01:47:00,399 --> 01:47:03,560 Yeah, And they came back and almost won the football game in spite of 1554 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:08,199 their head coach. Jackson Jordan Jamison were all at that game. Oh wow 1555 01:47:08,279 --> 01:47:12,319 in Tampa Bay. Yeah, okay, uh yeah. Interesting. So we'll 1556 01:47:12,359 --> 01:47:15,159 have Peter on and then we will also have Stephanie Ide and her boyfriend. 1557 01:47:15,279 --> 01:47:17,479 This is gonna be interesting. Yeah, I'm gonna be like Barbara. I 1558 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,520 don't think I'm gonna I'm not gonna get I'm not going to even do anything 1559 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:25,000 for the show tomorrow. I'm just gonna it's like a night off. It 1560 01:47:25,359 --> 01:47:27,800 kind of Plus, we might have killed and I may have to apologize the 1561 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,640 purchase. We'll have all that too, because I have a lot of work 1562 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,159 to do. There's a lot going on behind the scenes. I canna work 1563 01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:36,920 out myself, Billy, Apparently I got to be a jack you know, 1564 01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:45,159 figures at the ball, don't break past Yeah, rub circular motion. Dan, 1565 01:47:45,279 --> 01:47:51,960 I'm sorry baby, for Dan Barrillo, for Tyler Dunn, for the 1566 01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,920 It was great. Tyler was great. The Victims of the the panty stealing 1567 01:47:57,039 --> 01:48:00,279 Oh man, that's right for the guy with the monora on the off of 1568 01:48:00,279 --> 01:48:04,479 his car with the tinny speaker. I'm tining a TV for the r T 1569 01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,840 kid who has returned home, and we'll find out more tomorrow. We'll find 1570 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,880 out more tomorrow with Deputy Hurley. Oh yeah, ba show. That's right. 1571 01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,399 We have to do five. We have to doing overtime. We're going 1572 01:48:14,399 --> 01:48:18,359 overtime, overtime tomorrow. Oh g tomorrow. I'm Bill Moran, he's Dan 1573 01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:30,800 BURRELLO. We'll see you with Kevin. Yes tomorrow. I WoT a big 1574 01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:36,479 hotel, didn't know what to do. I'm trying to TV to you start 1575 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,840 a band. State