WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:05.080 It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with 2 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:10.720 aw Fanhab I'm your host Kelson, and we're here with a very small panel. 3 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:18.399 On Thanksgiving week. We have Andre with us tonight, whose house I 4 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:27.280 don't know, and we have Achi with us tonight h oh swears house. 5 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:32.640 Of course. See there, you can't get much past me. It may 6 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:37.640 take me a while, but I'll get there, you know it. I 7 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:41.320 tell you what. After the busy week we had last week in a w 8 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:46.000 I just you know, I'm happy that I have any facilities left because that 9 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:52.640 was a busy week of course, culminating with full gear on Saturday Night. 10 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.840 Tonight's show, we're going to be doing a little bit different because we normally 11 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.880 do a little bit of a preview for Dynamite, but as of recording this, 12 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.439 we really don't know what the heck is going on on Dynamite, so 13 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.680 there's no sense in talking about it. So we're gonna talk about a few 14 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.560 things. We're gonna talk about. At the very end of the show, 15 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.719 we're gonna try to talk about who do we think that aw should sign next. 16 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.760 We've got a lot of signings recently, so we're gonna talk about that. 17 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:23.719 Uh, We're gonna talk about some spicy predictions for the Continental Championship. 18 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.359 We're gonna talk about what's going on with the with the Young Bucks, and 19 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.159 we're going to talk about the title changes in Forbid Door. But we're gonna 20 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:38.200 start with what we thought were the best and worst moments of Forbid Door. 21 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:42.799 And boy, that's kind of a loaded question. What do you say, 22 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.760 Andre? Yeah, well, you guys know me. I don't like being 23 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:51.079 too negative, so but if you don't mind, I'm gonna start with the 24 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:56.120 bad and I'm gonna end with a good and with me, the best and 25 00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:00.640 worst of Full Gear are kind of connected, actually, so the worst for 26 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:05.040 me and I'm gonna probably get a lot of hate for this, the swerve 27 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:13.199 and hand Man Hangman, just the barbaric violence. I love a good hardcore 28 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:17.439 match. I enjoyed the hell out of the ladder match because there were crazy 29 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:22.439 spots, showed a lot of athleticism, it looked cool. I don't like 30 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:28.680 hardcore matches when it comes to stabbing people with forks and barbed wires and putting 31 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.919 thumbtacks in people's mouths and staple guns. I don't like that stuff. It's 32 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:42.039 just I don't know, Like I'm trying not to ramble, but yeah, 33 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.879 I think you get the point. You know. It's just at the end 34 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.599 of the day, I know that these guys are basically actors. They don't 35 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:52.800 really hate each other, but they're mutilating each other and someone who has a 36 00:02:52.800 --> 00:03:00.080 lot of health problems and I've I'm literally like three million into like health bill 37 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.560 that I've paid in my life. I just see them hurting each other and 38 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.879 it just it makes me feel uncomfortable. I get why they do it. 39 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.080 It makes for a great story, but not my cup of tea. But 40 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.960 on the flip side, the positive, I am so happy that Swerve one. 41 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:20.120 I love that his momentum is on a roll. He's like red hot. 42 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:24.199 He's like the hottest right now besides maybe MJF and I'm just super excited. 43 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.599 I hope they can keep it going with him all the way to the 44 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:35.280 finish line. Ah, that was so much. I'm sorry, ACKI Well, 45 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.639 the thing is is, I didn't watch full Gear, so I can 46 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:43.599 only talk about the small clips that I saw, and the small clips I 47 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:50.759 saw was I guess not much, so I can't really say much. So 48 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.800 pass it on to kill some So so the worst was that you didn't see 49 00:03:53.800 --> 00:04:01.439 the show. Yeah, basically, well that's just not good. I mean, 50 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.719 you missed out on something. You know, we're gonna keep this going. 51 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.520 I should be thinking about something else that you Andrea especially, I mean, 52 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.719 Aki, I know you're kind of out of the loop on this, 53 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.399 but because you didn't see the show, and I think you'll be able to 54 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:18.560 talk about, you know, the other two other segments we're going to talk 55 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:21.319 about. But Andre, you know, I want to hear some more from 56 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.279 you about the show, you know, but my best and worst at a 57 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:29.079 night, and I guess Andre, I'll just address with what you said when 58 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:34.399 we were in the Reddit live chat during the swerve and and Hagman added page 59 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:40.120 match. There were a lot of exclamations there that I can't say here. 60 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.040 I mean, it was just it was just and it was rightfully so because 61 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.839 I said some of them. But I do love seeing people punctured. It's 62 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.240 just the thing of mine. You know. I love the horror films because 63 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:53.720 I was like, oh, that looks cool, you know, the knife 64 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.560 going through the side of people's heads and stuff like that. Very morbid stuff. 65 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:00.240 But I don't mind the side of blood, but this it was a 66 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.600 little bit weird. I'll tell you what I thought. When I was describing 67 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:06.920 the batch to somebody, I said, and then they brought bob barbed wire 68 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.959 out, they ail to a board, and everybody was like, Oh, 69 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.720 thank God, back to normalcy now, you know, is that's what it 70 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.439 was. I'm going to agree with you because I love horror movies. I 71 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:24.560 love saws like they're some of my favorite movies. There's plenty of blood and 72 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.279 gore in that. But to me, I know that it's it's fake. 73 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:33.600 But like these people are literally just doing it, hurting themselves legit and it's 74 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:38.680 just I don't know, it's just different to me. Yeah, But you 75 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.720 know, overall on the show. One of the things that I found really 76 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:47.680 really strange going through our YouTube channel and the comments onto YouTube and the comments 77 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:55.680 on Blue Sky and even on Twitter and on of course read it. People 78 00:05:55.800 --> 00:06:00.560 either loved full gear or the or they hated it. There was no in 79 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:04.759 between. There was no middle ground. It was either people gave it a 80 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:10.160 two or they gave it an eight, you know what I mean. There 81 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:14.319 was no fives on a scale of one to ten. That's the way, 82 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.279 And that's kind of mind blowing because I personally gave it an eight out of 83 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.959 ten. I did find it. There was a couple of week spots in 84 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:26.759 the show, you know that was not perfect, but it wasn't that bad. 85 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:32.800 For example, I didn't really and I know a lot of people didn't. 86 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:38.279 It's not that they didn't care. I think they were just too exhausted 87 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:43.079 after watching the Swerve an Hangman match to really pay attention and get invested in 88 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:48.920 the Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks match. Anything go ahead. 89 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:51.360 Yeah. I made a funny comment in the chat. I said, 90 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:55.920 I cannot believe I'm seeing the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, and Chris Jericho 91 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.879 in the piss break match of a pay per view. That's just that does 92 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.639 sound right, And it wasn't a mean thing to say. It was the 93 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:05.920 truth, you know. It was like, it wasn't that it was Kenny 94 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:13.839 Omega and the Young Bucks and Chris Jericho. It could have been anybody. 95 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.680 Anybody could have been MGF and Jay White. It could have been any match 96 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:24.600 on the card. They could have brought the rock in and that you're not 97 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.439 kidding me. They could have had the will Osprey segment where they signed will 98 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.000 Osprey. They could have done that and it wouldn't have gone over because that 99 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:38.240 haeg Man, Adam Page and Square Strickland match literally just sucked the wind out 100 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:42.600 of everybody in a good way in most ways, I think, but it 101 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:46.519 just was. Yeah, people needed like ten minutes of you know, maybe 102 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.279 a silent movie from Tony Storm just to recover from it, you know what 103 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:53.800 I mean. That would have been the perfect thing. And now Tony Storm's 104 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:59.279 latest blockbuster played on the screen to get it over with. I do think 105 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:01.560 that this match, which will go down in history as one of the most 106 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:07.279 memorable matches ever, unless they do these every year, you know, then 107 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.600 we're gonna get the sensitized. But to me, this might not age well. 108 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.560 But this is like the modern day Undertaker and Mankind Hell in the Cell. 109 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.759 Like it had that shock value in my opinion. Yeah, I did 110 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.519 add the shock value. You know. We spent a lot of time talking 111 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:30.879 about this particular match, the Texas Death Match, but there were a lot 112 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:33.200 of other things in this match, so I did want to just run through 113 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:39.120 my best and worst on that. I actually really like Zero Hour for the 114 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.279 most part, you know, I'm not an Eddie Kingston fan. I didn't 115 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.399 really care for that match because that was the only match during Zero Hour they 116 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:50.639 kind of had some had no seed of doubt, you know what I mean. 117 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.759 There was no way that Eddie Kingston was going to lose that match. 118 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.639 It was nice to see Eddie Kingston out there defending, but there was no 119 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.639 way was to lose it. But when it came to the MGSMO and Joe 120 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.120 you know against you know, against the Guns, you never knew what was 121 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.120 gonna happen. And something happened, you know, during that match and the 122 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:16.480 quaudio match. Oh god, who did he fight? I can't I have 123 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.519 Matthews? Oh god, Buddy Matthews. That was an excellent match. And 124 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.279 I'm sorry, Buddy, but I forgot I forgot who you were for a 125 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.679 second there. But that was a really good match. And again, you 126 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:33.440 didn't know if the House of Black was going to come out and interfere and 127 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.440 things like that, you know what I mean. So, Oki, did 128 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.519 you get to see Zero Hour? Were you just not available to watch even 129 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:48.440 the free part? Okay? Well, you know, ultimately, you know, 130 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.759 again, if I had to say the worst of the night, I 131 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.840 would have to go with the Eddie Kingston match simply because, and again this 132 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.519 is nothing against Eddie Kingston at all, there just wasn't a seated out in 133 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:07.519 it for me. And the match with Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho against the 134 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:09.679 Bucks. I mean, I was too exhausted to pay attention. I was 135 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:16.320 still kind of reeling when MGF and j White fought now MJF and J White. 136 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:22.159 That match got a lot of shit online. I mean, people were 137 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:28.159 like, that is the worst pay per view main event ever? Do I 138 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.200 agree with it? It wasn't the greatest, but it wasn't the worst. 139 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.120 There's no way it was the worst. People who were saying just being stupid. 140 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.720 I thought the match was great. I thought the whole storyline throughout that 141 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.440 I was a little bit convoluted because it just we kind of got to where 142 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.720 we were advertising in the first place, which just took like a really weird 143 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:52.639 detour to get there. But the match was amazing. I liked it a 144 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.919 lot. And that cutter that MJF did over the top rope or RKO for 145 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:00.559 some of you who may not know what a cutter is, that was that 146 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:05.200 elbow drop off. I hope he's Okay, that was I would have made 147 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.440 it. I would have called an audible on that. When the when the 148 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.279 desk that had too many screws taken out of it just simply collapsed when they 149 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:18.840 laid when laid J White on top of it, you know, yeah, 150 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.240 that was you know what. But here I'm gonna say something. There are 151 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:28.399 a lot of people in the community that absolutely hated that match. And I'm 152 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:33.519 gonna say that the matches of what they hated, they hated all the bs 153 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.679 that led up to it. I mean, think about it. So you 154 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:43.080 had you had MJF get injured during zero hour after he got attacked by the 155 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:48.960 guns. Okay, he's taken out in an ambulance. Then he gets Adam 156 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:54.679 Cole the sub in for him, fighting for the World Championship, AW World 157 00:11:54.759 --> 00:12:01.080 Championship. Okay, so we're talking about AW. You who uses Doc Samson 158 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:07.279 and the doctors you know have not cleared so and so you know for no 159 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.559 chipping a toenail. You know, yeah, we got a guy with steel 160 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:16.159 plates and an ankle broken, it had two surgeries two weeks ago. You're 161 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.480 gonna let him go? You got mean? Okay? And then at then 162 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:26.159 you had MJF come into the arena by the ambulance right in the nick of 163 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.080 time, timed it perfectly, what doctor's cleared him. You know, it 164 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.960 just I need logic, a little bit of logic. I understand that it's 165 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.720 a you know, it's a show and whatnot, but don't make me feel 166 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.519 stupid. While watching you, I thought it was hilarious that Adam Cole came 167 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:48.279 out on one leg to fight in this main event, and everybody seems to 168 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.399 be okay with it. But then when MJF came, all the security try 169 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.840 to stop him because he was too quote unquote injured to perform, and that 170 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.159 was just ridiculously stupid that moment. Yeah, and if you saw the media 171 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.440 scrum, MGF did make a little snaff foo a little, but it was 172 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.440 a big staf foo in the media scrub where he said that he was standing 173 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.559 in the back watching the swerve Strickland and the hangman had him page match and 174 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.919 he was like, you know, wow, you know, but he was 175 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:22.200 standing in the back so well, in the back of his emergency room, 176 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.759 be at the back of his emergency room on a big monitor, because you 177 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:31.600 know they emergency rooms these days, do you know have. You know, 178 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:37.759 they do have pay per views on in the emergency room, because God knows, 179 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.120 the people with charge of glass stuck in their eyeballs and you know, 180 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.480 hatchets in their head and broken legs and broken arms and you know, shattered 181 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.080 shattered knees, they deserve to be entertained when they're in the emergency room for 182 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:58.919 the free amount of money it costs. Or yeah, you said you had 183 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.240 you said you You just said that you had medical problems. So I assume 184 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:07.399 that you've been in the emergency room at the hospital emergency rooms, and I 185 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.360 will say there are TV is in there with working cable, but I don't 186 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:15.000 think they have Bleacher Report. They don't have Bleacher Report. Did they show 187 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:20.200 in theater movies too? They at University of Washington Medical Center. They do 188 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:24.039 have an on demand movie channel, but not in theater. But you know 189 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.279 what I'm saying, Yeah, let's move on. I think we pretty much 190 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.960 covered the best of the worst of the night, I think, But I 191 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.039 want to talk about the Young Bucks for a second here, because the Young 192 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:43.960 Bucks lost to Kenny Obega and Chris Jericho. Kenny Obga went to shake hands 193 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:48.240 and Young Bucks literally through a tantrum like a couple of three year olds, 194 00:14:50.080 --> 00:15:00.600 you know, and and that was that, and so you know, I 195 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.000 don't know. So now they come out with reports and probably k because Brandon 196 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.639 Cutler, you know, did it? You know, did the report say 197 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:15.600 that you know a dog that being the elite is done and they're taking a 198 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:20.399 break from AAW which they very may well be taking a break from AAW or 199 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.200 they're just using this as a vehicle. But Aki, I mean, do 200 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:31.399 you have any ideas about this, uh whatever is going on with the Young 201 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:37.519 Bucks? They're taking a break from wrestling, but there's no hidden conspiracy. 202 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.759 Yeah, I agree with you, But do you let me ask you a 203 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.759 question, Aki. People have been saying that they haven't been getting excited about 204 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:50.200 Young Buck Young Bucks matches as much as they used to be. Do you 205 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:56.759 think that they were a little maybe a little overexposed or you know, you 206 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.799 know what I mean. Do you think they needed a break and Ad needed 207 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.360 a break from the Young Bucks as well, or do you think it's just 208 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:06.360 you know, it is what it is. I mean, me personally, 209 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:11.480 I'm never I'm never not excited to see the Young Bucks because they're pretty cool. 210 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.000 But you know, if other people say that then maybe it is a 211 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:22.039 good idea to like give people a break from the Young Bucks because last or 212 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:25.759 it wasn't last year, I don't know, but like when they got suspended 213 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:30.840 and they had a very long time out of the out, like away from 214 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.679 wrestling, people were very hyped up to see them again. So maybe that's 215 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:38.200 just what they need. They just need like a good like a couple months 216 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:42.200 break, be with family, do whatever you got to do. Fill out, 217 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:48.639 you'll up if you're injured or something, and think of cool story ideas 218 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.080 and then you know, when you come back, show those cool story ideas 219 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.480 and then boom, people are excited again. Right, we're air just came 220 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.399 into the room. We're talking about the Young Bucks said their break that they're 221 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.799 taking. We're to go to Andre next and there I get your thoughts on 222 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:06.920 this right after Andre's done. If that's all right, Andre? What do 223 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.160 you think I mean? Is what I said and what Aki said? Does 224 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.720 that ring true with you? Do you have your own opinions about this? 225 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:17.039 I'm sure you do. I feel like the Bucks have been taking a break 226 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:22.119 from aw for the past six months or so because they were suspended and then 227 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:25.640 they signed that big new contract dem and Omega and I guess all of the 228 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:30.759 Elite, and then they haven't really done much. I like the Young Bocks 229 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.519 a lot. I think they're exciting team, but at the same time, 230 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.079 they're exclusively a tag team, and I feel like they're almost like hit a 231 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.119 ceiling or something, because how much can you really do with the tag team. 232 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.039 They've gone for the Trio's belts, they've gone for the Ring of Honor 233 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:49.839 Trios belts, they've gone for the regular tag titles, and now it feels 234 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:53.359 like they're just spinning the wheels, like fighting with their old friends again, 235 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.519 and then they're going to make up with them again, then they're going to 236 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.079 fight with them again. I feel like they need something drastically different, and 237 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.160 they need some kind of maybe like a blood feud, kind of similar to 238 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.519 what Hangman and Swerve are having, but with maybe like I want to say, 239 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.359 Luca Brows, but that's kind of like a tired rivalry too. Maybe 240 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.119 someone new I don't know, I don't know exactly who would be great opponents 241 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:19.839 for them, but they need something different. I don't know if they're actually 242 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.920 going to be gone for a while. I hope not, because I mean, 243 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:23.920 they're exciting. So I want to see them, but I just want 244 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.559 to see them do something different. What do you think, er, I 245 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:30.920 mean, you know, do the Bucks need to recharge? Do you think 246 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:37.200 they've lost some of the fans. I think as a whole, the elite 247 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:44.960 has taken a back seat in twenty twenty three, like they returned at full 248 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.880 gear twenty twenty two. They win the Trios or they don't win the Trios 249 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:49.640 Championship, but then they have like that best of seven series with that triangle 250 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.920 amazing wrestling, amazing matches. Crazy to think that six guys can have seven 251 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:02.279 different matches and it doesn't get boring or repetitive. And then Hangman kind of 252 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:07.160 goes missing for two months until the mock feud kicks off and he happens to 253 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:12.640 get injured. Kenny has arguably his slowest year in his pro wrestling career since 254 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:18.039 coming to AW besides twenty twenty two, because of like the suspension, and 255 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.559 the Bucks kind of get lost in the shuffle because, like Andre said, 256 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:29.440 they're exclusively a tag team, and the tag division as a whole, I 257 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:33.160 think it kind of got disrupted with the Trio with the introduction of the Trios 258 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.920 division, because it split the two. You had a lot of tag teams 259 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:41.039 that got converted into trios and they fell off, like you look at the 260 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:45.720 acclaimed Hottest Tag Act and then now they're in the trio's division and it's hurting 261 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.279 the Tag division because FTR, while they had the belt, they weren't doing 262 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:53.200 much with them as a result. So Young Bucks, I feel like whatever 263 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:57.480 reason, whatever plans shifted because I guess like everybody expected that once they won 264 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:03.680 that tag title shot, they would win at home in Los Angeles and then 265 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:07.839 you'd see the Tag division go back to like what it once was, which 266 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:11.799 was like the best tag division in the world, Like if there was that, 267 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.839 like aw really distinguished itself from others early on, was that Tag division, 268 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.079 Luca Bros. Private Party, Young Books, FTR, you name it 269 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.559 right. So I think, like I think, as a whole the least 270 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:26.039 probably just taking a back seat in twenty twenty three, and then next year 271 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:32.079 you see them really kick things off. You see them turning heel they brought 272 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:34.640 back like the bar they brought back the Young Bucks, like the dollars, 273 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:40.319 so all their little heel anctics, even the storyline wise, you see them 274 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:45.759 leaning into like things like brawl out with like mention of like stop being children, 275 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:48.039 that oh, that's not the first time I've heard of that, all 276 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.799 those kind of things. So they're leaning heavily into all of those tropes that 277 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.559 get talked about them in social media. And that's when the bucks are the 278 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.000 best. So I think, like, we probably don't see them at World 279 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:04.119 end, but then definitely as twenty twenty four kicks off, then I think 280 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.839 like, that's when like they're really back in the fold. The elite as 281 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.480 a whole will be back in the fold. You know. I want to 282 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.079 I want to give an opinion, and I then I want to give everybody 283 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:17.400 a chance to express their thoughts on the opinion that I'm gonna give. I've 284 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:19.599 always for the longest, not always, but for the longest time. I'd 285 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.200 say for more than a year, at least more than a year, probably 286 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:30.160 closer to two years. I've bet a big proponent of a AW Women's Tag 287 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:36.759 Team Championship belt, and whenever I bring it up, we I get the 288 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:42.440 response saying AW already has too many belts, And my response to that is, 289 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:48.599 yes, I agree they should get rid of the Trios Championship and put 290 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:56.240 and give the women a tag team championship because for the same reason that Air 291 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.440 you know, just expressed, the trios Championship is taken away from the men's 292 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.480 tag team and tag team is always going to be more important to trios. 293 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:08.359 And the trios champions right now are tag team wrestlers, you know, They're 294 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:14.200 not a trios team, you know, And where do you go from here? 295 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.839 The acclaim that we're not even in They were not in Zero Hour, 296 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.839 they were not in the pay per view Full Gear. Of course they were 297 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:30.279 quote unquote injured, you know, but it's probably because they just didn't have 298 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.799 a place for them. There was nobody, There was nobody in line to 299 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.160 challenge them. Really. I mean, you can argue maybe House of Black, 300 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.480 but I think they made the right call putting House of Black in the 301 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.759 tag teams ladder match, you know kind of thing. So that's my question. 302 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.519 I want to I want to throw it to Andre do you think that 303 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.920 we need a women's tag title and and do you think that if we do 304 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:56.599 have to give up one, would you give up the the Trios Championship or 305 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:03.160 something else. I do think that there should be a women's tag team division 306 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.839 with a championship. That would be really good because it would give a lot 307 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:08.839 of women something to do, and a lot of them are kind of buddies 308 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:14.400 and sort of unofficial tag teams, so this would give them something to fight 309 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.079 over. But I don't think we should take away the Trios championship. I 310 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.240 don't think I wouldn't take away any championship unless you want to talk about Ring 311 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.799 of Honor titles. I'll get rid of all of those, and I'll get 312 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.960 rid of the FTW title that's worthless, and I'll keep the rest. I 313 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.960 do like the Trio's Division. I do think they acclaimed and Billy Gunn they 314 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:38.680 could have defended against the Kingdom at the paper view, I think that would 315 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:45.680 have made sense because they were kind of fighting for Max Mjf's attention, so 316 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.200 that kind of wrote itself. I don't know why they didn't do that, 317 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.200 but maybe they didn't want either team to lose, So I don't know, 318 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.279 but yeah, I'm a big supporter of women's Tag team division. What about 319 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:02.480 you, HOCKI or sorry, go ahead, I just want I just want 320 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.559 to piggyback on something you said. Okay, so we keep the Tree's Division. 321 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.920 People are still saying that we have too many belts at AW. No, 322 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:15.480 we don't, because if you took away all the time TV time that 323 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:19.599 the roh belts are being used, are defended and fought for or whatever you 324 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:23.240 want to call it on AWTV, then you've got plenty of time, plenty 325 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:30.279 of time for the the AW Women's World Tag Team title. OKI, what 326 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:34.759 are your feelings about women's tag team title? Do you think that it's feasible 327 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:38.640 and viable? I've been saying for a long time, or I mean I 328 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:45.039 haven't physically say it, but like I've been thinking that the trio belts didn't 329 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:49.000 have been introduced yet. I mean eventually they should have, but just not 330 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:55.119 at the time that it was introduced because I because like there wasn't a lot 331 00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:00.480 of trios in my opinion. And yeah, I think they should make a 332 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:12.599 uh oh my god, the tag team for the women's and don't go ahead, 333 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:17.400 go ahead hockey notes about it. Okay, I want to ask you 334 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:21.359 another question to add on to this, give you an opportunity to say something 335 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.400 new. One of the things that we also get. I told you I 336 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.519 get a response when I bring up the women's tag team belts that there's too 337 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:30.720 many belts. The other response is there's no women's tag teams. Do you 338 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.119 agree with that? I think they're I think Tony Kin's kind of building a 339 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.200 tag division. If you look at what's been going on in AW, so 340 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.200 throw to you, do you think a women's tag team title is viable in 341 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:48.000 AW and do you think there are women tag teams out there? Yeah? 342 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.400 So I had just happened to open up the AW roster and I was looking 343 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.119 through it and currently there are thirty four women signed and a lot of them 344 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:02.960 aren't featured regularly summer in like, uh, you have Jamie Hayter off TV. 345 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:06.519 You have thunder Rosa who's injured. Then you have others who are missing 346 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:11.480 for different reasons such as uh Ty Melo and the others, Rijo Yokosakazaki, 347 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:17.200 Serenadeve, we don't know where she is, Peneloe, Penelope hasn't wrestled. 348 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.640 Bunny got released recently. So yeah, there's a lot of women who are 349 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.960 signed, but we all we always see those same seven or eight women who 350 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:32.279 are featured on TV. And in terms of tag teams, if you just 351 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.680 look back I think like H TJ and A J and Tymelo that would be 352 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:41.480 one, Madison rain Sky Blue that was kind of one. Uh who else 353 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:48.240 do you have a deal? Yeah? You have those, but yeah, 354 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.000 I don't think there's like natural tag teams like you would see with the men's 355 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.720 division or or let's let's look through like the other example of the Women's Tag 356 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:03.799 Team Championships that do exist, which existing WW they tried to have two sets 357 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.240 one inn NXT one on the main roster, and for whatever reason, those 358 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.720 titles just ended up being cursed because whoever held them ended up getting injured or 359 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.359 something else happened. And they're also struggling running into the same problems where like 360 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.920 you don't have natural tag teams who are coming up from like the INDI's or 361 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:26.440 from the grassroots levels and then migrating up in AW. We're having a lot 362 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.880 of makeshift tag teams that you're putting together. And to twenty CON's credit, 363 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.279 even a tag team like the Acclaim they started from darkent Elevation just got randomly 364 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.079 put together and ended up being something good. So the potential is there for 365 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.480 a tag team, but like as the current roster stands, I don't think 366 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:47.039 there are enough natural tag teams in place for a title, like perhaps you 367 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:51.160 start building tag team feuds, you start doing those things, and then maybe 368 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:52.599 like twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, you can see like, oh, 369 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.319 there's enough people and pieces in place that we can do this and give 370 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.960 it a belt and give it some more legitimacy, you know. Let me 371 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:04.200 let me bring up a point here. So when you look at the men's 372 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:10.839 tag teams, what's the most popular men's tag team right now? Which one 373 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:21.240 is selling the most murk? No, it's MGF and Adam Colebaby. And 374 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:26.920 how did that tag team even come about? The blind eliminator tag team tournament? 375 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:32.519 Why could it's a makeshift tag team that they got together quickly. I'm 376 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.319 sure they put thought into it. It wasn't a blind draw, you know, 377 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:37.880 so. I think it would be interesting if they did that for the 378 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.119 women's I said that right when they were doing it for the men. Why 379 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:45.640 aren't they doing this for the women? You could pull Sky Blue and Julia 380 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:51.720 Hart put them together. You could pull like Chris Statlander and somebody like Tya 381 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:59.319 Valkyrie have two towers the Willow Nightingale. Absolutely, there's so many things that 382 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.079 you can do. We've been looking at like when Jamie Hater comes back. 383 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.720 We've been everybody was talking about Britt Baker turning on JM. Hater or JB. 384 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.640 Hater turning on Brick Baker. If you put them on opposite ends of 385 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:17.640 a tag team, you know, through a blind draw, that could be 386 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:22.480 the catalyst for that happening, you know. So we're talking about the women, 387 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.079 and I want to just kind of segue into the next little segment here 388 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:34.359 at full Gear, we had six championship matches. Two titles changed hands, 389 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.599 and those two titles were the TBS title in the aw Women's World title, 390 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.359 the two women's matches. The titles change hands in those matches, but the 391 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:52.319 other four matches they didn't change hands. Do you is this a good thing, 392 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.160 andre or a bad thing? Do you think we should have had? 393 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.559 Well? Of course, do you think that one of the female women's title 394 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.519 should have stay put both of them or do you think that maybe one or 395 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:08.519 two more of the men's titles. K I'm gonna say this right now, 396 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.839 and I said it before. Out of all those six tag teams, out 397 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:17.000 of those six titles matches, all of them, all of them were kind 398 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:22.920 of in questioned a little bit so there was a possibility of losses. So 399 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:27.599 what do you think, well, as someone who won the predictions game, 400 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:36.960 my humble, My humble opinion is that pretty much every match outcome made sense. 401 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:38.720 You know, that's why I predicted, But you know that's besides the 402 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.160 point. So I'm happy with these title changes, to be honest. The 403 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.519 Women's World title match, I didn't really care that much for uh, we'll 404 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.759 see what Tony Storm does with it. There's some interesting potential for her with 405 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.920 a belt. Somebody suggested I think it might have been air, but please 406 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.039 correct me if I'm wrong, but somebody suggested that she should get really obsessed 407 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.240 with it and like sleep with it, take it in the shower, and 408 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:08.039 just like guarded with her life because she's crazy. That could be interesting. 409 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:15.119 As far as the TBS Championship goes on, I'm happy Julia Hart won and 410 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.960 that was a great match. I want to say, because we discussed last 411 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.440 week how all three of these women are not very experienced, so it's going 412 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.319 to be interesting to see if their three way match is going to be sloppy 413 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.240 or not. And it was not sloppy at least not that I noticed. 414 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.319 I thought it was. They did a really good job, and I'm excited 415 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.240 to see what Julia does. I hope she has a great ring. The 416 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:40.599 one thing I hope is that AW does this a lot. It seems like 417 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.200 they build someone up to win the title, and then once the person wins 418 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.640 the title, they just have random open challenges while they're building the next challenger, 419 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.720 and the champion just kind of gets forgotten, like their character arc just 420 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:59.279 stops. And I hope that doesn't happen with the women here, right and 421 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:05.559 Aki, I know that you are a huge proponent of women's wrestling. Are 422 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.039 you pleased with the title changes? And also, I'm sure even though you've 423 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:15.079 already said you didn't get the Sea full gear, you probably know the results 424 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.799 and do you see something you know and the results that the titles didn't change 425 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:24.160 that you're like, I wish this may have changed. I'm so happy that 426 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:29.720 Julia won that champion. I've been saying that since the since TVs Champion, 427 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.839 since Jade was here. I'm so happy she won that. I'm also excited 428 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.880 to see what Tony Storm does that. I hope that she does the angle 429 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.720 where if she where she becomes kind of obsessed with the thing that would be 430 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:47.839 pretty cool. I'm so happy that the ladies won, and I kind of 431 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.200 forgot my prediction. I think I said four or three some of that, 432 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:59.839 so I guess both kind of close. What no, you're no, you're 433 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.200 pretty much everybody said three or four titles change hands. Yeah, I was 434 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.960 kind of close. But I'm so happy that the lady is that the ladies 435 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:13.119 that I wanted to win one because it just made it just made too much 436 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.559 sense. That's fair enough. I mean, did you think that maybe some 437 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.759 of the others, you know, the men's titles which none change hands, 438 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.440 you know, were you a little upset maybe or thinking that one of them 439 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:28.559 would have changed hands at least one of them. Are you okay with the 440 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:32.920 four titles staying where they were? I'm fine with the World Champion staying where 441 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:42.400 it is because I don't like j White and uh I have to look at 442 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.960 the matches and UH like the list of matches to say, like, who 443 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:57.160 else has I forgot a lot of matches? That's that's fair enough. What 444 00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.680 about you, Air, I mean, what is your take on this weet? 445 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.440 Are you okay with the two women's matches title state changeing hands? Or 446 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:06.480 did you think that maybe we could have used one, at least one title 447 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:12.039 change in the men's side. So I'll just start at the top first. 448 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:19.760 Hikarushida when she won back her title at Dynamite two hundred from Soirea, she 449 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.599 held that or no, no, she would she be. She beat Tony 450 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:27.400 Storm that night. She held the title twenty five days before losing to Sreya. 451 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.079 Her third title reign was only for thirty nine days, So two times 452 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:35.159 now she's been a transitional champion for someone else to give someone else their moment 453 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.760 because Tony Kahn felt that they were hotter Sreya in England like, oh, 454 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.559 we got the vice to queen, got to give it to her hometown crowd. 455 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.000 Let's get that pop because we don't have Jamie Hayter to give that pop 456 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:52.559 too this time around. It's it's so clear that Tony Storm is Tony Hahn's 457 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.480 favorite female wrestler on the roster because of the amount of amount of TV time 458 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.599 that he's given her. You could tell that. You could see it with 459 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.079 Britt two years ago. Even though when she was injured in a wheelchair, 460 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.599 had a broken nose, she was still constantly on TV. She was still 461 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.480 being wheeled out, she was still cutting promos backstage segments. It was very 462 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:15.760 easy to see Tony Kahan's favorites when you see how the TV time is designated 463 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.719 to these people. Tony Storm, I felt like her story would have been 464 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.360 better had she lost, because it would allow her character to unravel a little 465 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.840 bit more, get a little bit crazier, all those sorts of things. 466 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.639 But now that she's one, let's see where it goes. I'm interested to 467 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.559 see where the story with Mariah May goes. Who's like kind of like her 468 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:44.719 understudy and girl, and eventually I guess we'll see her the student becomes a 469 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.320 teacher tries to take out this teacher. That's probably the direction that goes. 470 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.000 So I'm okay with that. The TVs title, Like Aki, like Andre, 471 00:35:52.599 --> 00:36:00.000 I'm super pleased for Julia hart Urn Skyblue are two of like the women 472 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:06.480 who are making the fastest progress in AW They're wrestling a lot more compared to 473 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.320 a lot of the other women the work is being put in. And then 474 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:14.079 Julia, where she distinguishes herself from everybody else on the roster is that her 475 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.280 character work has gone up so many levels. And I mean the credit to 476 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.039 that has to go to, like just her being around Malachi Brody Buddy, 477 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.840 three veterans of the game. Malachi is such a cerebral lore guy, and 478 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.679 just spending time with them, watching them wrestle, listening to them cut promos. 479 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.360 Julia has taken that like and I'm just run with it. So I'm 480 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.639 happy for her as well, But I feel bad for Chris dat Lander, 481 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:47.920 who didn't get a single feud really of her whole TBS title reign. So 482 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:53.159 I'm just looking now when she had seventeen title matches, and I think she 483 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:57.239 gave some of the women that she wrestled against some of the best matches that 484 00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:01.280 they had. Her matches against Jade Cargo were excellent. Her matches against Willow 485 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:08.400 Skyblue, Marina Shafir, Lady Frost, Taya Anna j some of the better 486 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.719 women's matches that we've seen this year. So she definitely elevated the title, 487 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.440 not just in ring, but like on a work rate basis, And I 488 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.920 really hope that she moves up a level now. And isn't that aw Women's 489 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:30.440 Championship contendership because she's amazing Hue there and from the men's side, I thought 490 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:37.760 we should have seen another title change, any one in particular that you were 491 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.960 thinking about. I thought Max should have won. You and I are sharing 492 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.719 the same brain cell again, Yeah yeah, Like I thought in my heart 493 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.039 of hearts, I wanted j White to win because he's one of my favorite 494 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.280 wrestlers. But like I knew, with like a Long Island pay per view 495 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.880 and the MANJFS hometown, there was no chance in hell that he was gonna 496 00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:02.159 lose. But Mocks, I felt should have won. Nothing against Orange Cassidy, 497 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:07.199 but I felt like you built him up for a year as this undefeated 498 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.920 guy forty title defenses whatever he had, and it took John Moxley to beat 499 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.800 him. Who's gonna be the next guy to beat him? It kind of 500 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:19.480 like devalues that next victory. Well, they did kind of back themselves into 501 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.519 the aw did back themselves into a corner, because you're exactly right, who 502 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.840 are they gonna get to beat John to get to beat Orange Cassidy. Now 503 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:31.159 I can tell you who it's gonna be. It's gonna be John Moxley at 504 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:36.559 Winter is Coming. It's gonna be a tiebreaker match because they're one on one 505 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.719 and they're gonna have a tiebreaker. And that's gonna be John Moxley's way of 506 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.519 winning the belt. Yeah, that's probably the direction that goes, yeah, 507 00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.480 because otherwise you look at the guys that Orange Cassidy beat, like look a 508 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.800 look at look at where Serve is now. And Swerve has taken two losses 509 00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:57.960 to Orange Cassidy. Oh I didn't. I forgot about that. Yeah too, 510 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.800 And this is like a when was that Battle Royale? And then a 511 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.760 match on Dynamite And so those are like two big wins that Orange Cassidy has 512 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:15.119 for a guy who's like the biggest black wrestler wrestling today. He's elevated himself 513 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:21.559 to like that upper a a st or echelon of wrestlers now in the span 514 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.920 of like two three months. But Orange Cassidy has a couple of wins over 515 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:29.159 him. So like so yeah, it'll be interesting to see who takes it 516 00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:30.800 off him, Like you have guys like I really want to see, like 517 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.920 an international guy be the one to take take off take the title off him, 518 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:42.079 a rouge a Taqueshta, somebody like that. I agree. One title 519 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.639 change that I forgot to mention that I would like to see was I wanted 520 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.960 the guns to take the belts off of MJF because I feel like those belts 521 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.880 just need to be off of MJF. The Ring of Honored tag team belts 522 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.719 that I'm talking about because like, okay, I was thinking about this today. 523 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.639 So Samoa Joe, he was the Ring of Honor TV champion and he 524 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.800 gave that belt up. He just straight up put it on the floor said 525 00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.719 I don't want it anymore. I want to do bigger and better things. 526 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:13.079 Bigger and better things is what MJF has, which is the World Championship, 527 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:17.360 but he also has the Ring of Honor championships that he is defending with his 528 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.920 life. Like the Ring of Honor belts are like the most important tag belts 529 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:28.440 in the history of the industry. He is sacrificing his world title defense by 530 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.079 defending these Ring of Honor belts, And both of these guys are like in 531 00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.960 the same storyline, and it's just so inconsistent, and it just it's kind 532 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.400 of laughable when I dig deep about it, you know, And I just 533 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:42.800 want MJF to get rid of those Ring of Honor belts and just let's just 534 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.760 stick with the world title. I get you. I mean, as I 535 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:52.000 said earlier, I am a big proponent of AW having AW belts fought for, 536 00:40:52.159 --> 00:41:00.760 defended, and battled for on AWTV Ring of Honor. People are saying 537 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:02.480 Ring of Honor is dying. Why is the Ring of Honor dying? Samoa 538 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:08.440 Joe didn't defend the Ring of Honor TV championship on Ring of Honor TV since 539 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:15.320 like August, It's been months. You know, if you're going to have 540 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:25.960 a promotion with belts, but have those belts defended on on that you know? 541 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.239 So yeah? So, uh you know what, Air do you want 542 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.599 to do your rant about Saboa Joe? You can do it if you want 543 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:40.960 to take the time. Air is going to kill you. Yeah. So 544 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:46.199 when he dropped the title the way that he did it, I like, 545 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.000 what about it? And then once the time of my finished, I just 546 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.079 like, yeah, I couldn't process it. I couldn't process it at all. 547 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.719 Uh but like yeah, I'll just I'll just read off my rent one. 548 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.000 Samoa Joe held the title five hundred and seventy five days and didn't put 549 00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:07.400 a single person over in defeat. Uh. Second, he says he wanted 550 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.800 to be more than a TV champion, But what rule says you can't be 551 00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:14.760 a TV champion or a double champ, especially when you've already been a double 552 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.400 champ. So we remember the king of Television, Samoa Joe with the ROH 553 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.960 and TNT championship. What would affect him from being rh TV champion and the 554 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:29.960 AW World Champion. He could have put over Keithley and losing could have could 555 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.039 have made him a star, could have made him the singles wrestler that we 556 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.960 all thought that we were getting when he signed to AW. You could have 557 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.000 easily had Samojo losing in a multiman match. Final battle is coming up in 558 00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.679 three weeks time, four weeks time, whatever it is, right, hung 559 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:50.760 Bucks don't have the belt, Samoa Joe lost the belt, You've already devalued 560 00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.119 your pay per view. Why the ticket sales are in the absolute gutter for 561 00:42:53.159 --> 00:43:00.360 that show? No chance in hell do I think I'm seeing mgf so on 562 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.840 an ROH pay per view? No, I don't see him defending those belts 563 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:07.559 either. So you already have three title belts that won't be there because you're 564 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:15.280 held by people that are predominantly on AW television. And yeah, because you 565 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.480 didn't do any of those things above. Whoever holds the title belt next will 566 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:24.679 be holding a belt that the previous champ didn't feel was worth holding. Yeah, 567 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.000 and so whether it's Ethan Page, whether it's Mark Brisco, whether it's 568 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:34.519 whoever, you're holding a title that the previous champ told you is not as 569 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.440 important as other belts, and so it just devalues the whole thing. Well, 570 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.639 you know, here, one of the things that I've constantly said on 571 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.519 these podcasts is that I am not a proponent. I am not a fan 572 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:51.719 of any wrestler holding two belts. With the amount of wrestlers in the on 573 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:55.639 the roster, it just aw alone, not even taken into consideration the rig 574 00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:01.920 of honor specific roster, there's no reason whatsoever for more than one bell to 575 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:07.880 be held by any single wrestler. Which brings us to our next point, 576 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:14.199 the new Continental Championship. Now, Eddie Kingston full gear cut a really confusing 577 00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.360 promo. Take that promo, wrap it up into a ball and throw it 578 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.920 out the window. Because during this scrum, the media scrum afterward, the 579 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.960 Boss, Tony Kann himself explained the Continental Championship. And if you try to 580 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:32.519 think what Eddie Kingston said and Tony Kahn said together, you're just gonna get 581 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:39.480 confused. So the way I understand the Continental Championship, and again don't even 582 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:44.840 think about what Eddie Kingston said, because it doesn't it has no pertinence. 583 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:52.119 The Continental Championship is basically the Ring of Honor World Championship, the Continental Championship 584 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:57.679 in the duo Japan Pro Wrestling Strong open Weight Championship all rolled into one. 585 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.159 It's a unified championship to whoever wins this twelve man tournament, which is being 586 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:08.559 announced in full from what I understand tomorrow probably I think it's on a YouTube 587 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.079 thing tomorrow, like at at one o'clock. I don't even know, but 588 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.280 it is going to be announced tomorrow. The bracket, the winner at this 589 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:24.480 tournament will be, for lack of better words, the Ring of Honor World 590 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:32.519 champion and the New Japan for a Wrestling Open Strong open Weight Championship champion, 591 00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:38.840 and it'll be under the Continental Championship belt. And that's what it means. 592 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:45.719 So with the Continental Championship again, this is one that's going to be defended 593 00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:52.360 a Ring of Honor aw and in New Japan. Keeping that in consideration, 594 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:58.480 who do you think should win this final? You know you don't even have 595 00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.760 to narrow down the one you can narrow up down to two or three, 596 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:07.480 even Andre putting you on the spot here. Yes, you're asking the question 597 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:13.199 who should win this? My question is who is Brian Danielson going to beat 598 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:19.400 in the finals for this or or who is going to upset Brian Danielson in 599 00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.639 the finals, because I think that's the only thing that matters, because we've 600 00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:27.639 kind of seen this before with these tournaments where a certain wrestler is kind of 601 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.599 like the centerpiece of it and you kind of know they're going to go in 602 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.119 the finals. We saw that, we see him punk in the recent tournament 603 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.760 in which Ricky Starks went over in the owen Hart Tournament. So I feel 604 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:43.360 like this is leading up to something similar, and it's hard to tell because 605 00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.079 no matter what I say right now, it's gonna probably be outdated tomorrow when 606 00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:52.000 we find out the actual participants. But I would like to see, first 607 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.679 of all, from storyline perspective. If I'm Don Kallis, I want my 608 00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:59.320 guys in this tournament. This is a brand new tournament. We got to 609 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.119 put our name on it. I have the hottest guy right here, Takeshta. 610 00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.599 He needs to be in it. He needs to win it. He 611 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:10.760 needs to be synonymous with the championship. That's what makes sense, So I 612 00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:15.880 hope that's what happens. I want Don Kallas to put not only Takeshta, 613 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.559 but I want him to put Maybe it would be too much to put all 614 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.960 three of his guys with Kyle Fletcher and Powerhouse Hobbs, but I want him 615 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:28.000 to put at least Takeshta in and maybe Powerhouse Hobbs for you know, a 616 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.559 big guy in the tournament. But I want Takeshta to go at least to 617 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:37.000 the finals, to lose to Danielson or even win it. I think that 618 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:45.320 would be cool. What do you think, Oki? That's basically my reaction 619 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.960 to hearing that. So it's a champion that's for a Ring of Honor that's 620 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.320 all three which one belt. The person who holds the belt is going to 621 00:47:54.360 --> 00:48:00.519 be the Ring of Honor Championship, the Continental aw Continental Champion, and the 622 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.119 new Japan Strong Open Weight Championship all at the same time. It's like the 623 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:10.880 universal championship belt that the company that I don't like saying's name has has yes, 624 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:17.079 So it's like holding three different championships, but it's one championship. Okay, 625 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:23.639 I think it's gonna be uh well aspray that wins it because he just 626 00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.559 signed, or maybe that wins it, but like he'll go on to the 627 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.760 he'll he'll definitely be probably in the running for it down the line. But 628 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.320 keep in mind that he just signed, but he's not going to be coming 629 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:39.159 in for a couple of months. Yeah, and uh so here he is. 630 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.360 He did say, you know, give me a chance. I'm gonna 631 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:46.000 I'm gonna complete my my commitment to New Japan and I'll be here as soon 632 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:51.360 as that's done. Now that's not to say he may go in there, 633 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.440 and I do have a point to make about that too, but for all 634 00:48:54.519 --> 00:49:00.840 ten purposes, he's he's AW signed with AW, but he's not really with 635 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:05.840 AW yet. Yeah, in a couple more months. Yeah, okay, 636 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.920 never mind, my plans have been foiled. No, you may not have 637 00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:12.480 been, because I'm gonna throw it to air now. But I have a 638 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:20.920 question for air. This is this championship belt does represent New Japan Pro Wrestling 639 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.400 as well, and to Aki's point, will Osprey is still in New Japan 640 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.039 Pro Wrestling. Do you think that New Japan Pro Wrestling will Osprey could win 641 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:36.639 this thing. He could be in this tournament because who better to represent the 642 00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:42.519 tournament than the you know, the championship belt than Will Osprey for New Japan, 643 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.719 a New Japan wrestler, Kurt New Japan wrestler. What do you think? 644 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:51.280 Who? What is your answer on this air? I think well Ostrey 645 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:52.679 would have been a first great candidate, but I don't think he will be 646 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:59.519 in the tournament. But whoever does win, they have to be a made 647 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.559 guy. Like if Brian Danielson, I don't think he wants to hold any 648 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.519 kind of accolade in aw He's happy just wrestling great matches. He books himself 649 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:14.960 to lose, So like a guy like Takeushta, somebody who can get elevated, 650 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.559 Like if you saw yesterday the list of wrestlers that I put out. 651 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.280 In terms of who I think should be in the tournament, it should be 652 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:25.800 your upper echelon of guys, your tippy top. In Brian Danielson's own words, 653 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:30.880 he looked us dead in the eyeball and said this will be the greatest 654 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:37.480 tournament in professional wrestling history. And you can't say that and then have guys 655 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.000 in the tournament like like Jay Lethal, like like Jeff Jarrett, like Matt 656 00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:46.719 Hardy, like Jeff Hardy, like like people we've seen in eliminator eliminator tournaments 657 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.400 or the owen Hart Tournament. It needs to be the upper echelon of guys. 658 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.280 It needs to be your Keny Omega's, You're Jay white'es, your your 659 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.079 Rouchees, your takeshta is, your Malachi's, people of that caliber who have 660 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:05.119 held championship singles titles at the highest level. That's how you put over this 661 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.159 tournament as a great accolade. In terms of the partnership, and like the 662 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:15.639 Triple Crown situation, I don't understand why New Japan would agree to this as 663 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:21.320 a whole. I've never felt like New Japan has benefited or any of aw's 664 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:27.679 partners have benefited from the partnership as much as adw has. I saw an 665 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:32.599 interesting point today online. They're they're making these New Japan is like kind of 666 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.400 building these stars who are obviously going to be worth more money, and New 667 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.840 Japan doesn't want to pay them the top dollars, so they go to a 668 00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:45.599 company like AW, where AW pays them a lot but also allows them to 669 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.840 come back to New Japan to perform on their big Show. So that's the 670 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.480 theory that I saw. I don't know if that's actually the case. It 671 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:57.519 will be interesting to see whether or not when these brackets are revealed tomorrow, 672 00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:02.079 how many New Japan wrestlers in the bracket itself. And I think New Japan 673 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.920 can benefit from this because if a New Japan signed wrestler wins the tournament, 674 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.719 or wins the tournament, or you know, a couple of months from now, 675 00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.159 actually wins the belt, they can bring it back to Japan and work 676 00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:21.440 with it. The AW Continental title will be in Japan and then they can 677 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.559 wrestle for defended in Japan. They can come back and defend it in a 678 00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:29.559 ring of honor, they can defend it at AW. You know. I 679 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:34.000 think it's a good time sharing thing. But to Air's point, they have 680 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.280 to get somebody from a New Japan does have to get the title in order 681 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.079 to do this, and that's the only way it'll be beneficial for New Japan. 682 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.280 Yeah, and Under's point, like, so far, even in terms 683 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:51.960 of like signings, it's been Aw's benefit. They've gotten Ossie Open, they've 684 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:57.039 got in j White, They've got in now will Ospray, They've got into 685 00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:00.360 Kesha from DDT. So even in just in terms of signing, like sure, 686 00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:06.320 money matters, all these kind of things, but the relationship it's been 687 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:09.119 very one sided. It would be great for a new Japan guy to win 688 00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:13.159 or for someone to hold the title. But even if you just look at 689 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.840 like the two Forbidden Door shows, how many new Japan guys have gotten and 690 00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.800 put over in big matches or in the title matches, no one really even 691 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.719 in terms of the opponents that we have them in the matches that they do 692 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:28.920 go over, like this year we had Sanata beat Jungle Boy. Jungle Boy 693 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:32.119 was never gonna win that match. Well, we had Jay White go over 694 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.320 and then we had will Osprey go over. But now they're over here. 695 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:42.440 So but at the time they were part of the Japan Yeah, yeah, 696 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.320 fair point, you know. So we we talked. We talked a little 697 00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.400 bit about will Osprey. We talked about Jay why do you still fairly new 698 00:53:49.519 --> 00:54:00.599 signing in AWE after getting absolutely booked into the dirt like he like if six 699 00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:04.159 feet is buried, he's he's at five feet right now underground? Yeah, 700 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:09.639 who's that? JH. Yeah, I don't know. Well, if you 701 00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:15.480 look at it this way though, you know, a W has released more 702 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:21.519 wrestlers lately than they've ever had in the penmast I want to make a collection. 703 00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.519 They didn't release the guys the contracts expired. I just want to clarify 704 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:30.760 that because there's a big difference and people will get upset. I think they 705 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:37.119 did release lave Bates though I think she requested her release. Yeah, and 706 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:44.480 Jane Cargill I think requested her release as well. But anyway, we just 707 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:50.480 AW just signed Will Osprey. They had Ronda Rousey Wressell for Ring of Honor 708 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:58.760 on Friday night. We had Dolph Ziggler at it backstage at Full Gear. 709 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:04.239 We had Mercelle these Bonett shown in the crowd at all In, And there 710 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:08.159 are other names that are you know, pasta round, Mustaf al Lee, 711 00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:16.880 Julia from New Japan, Spicy Prediction Time, Who's next, Who's next? 712 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:22.400 Who's coming in? And who? Yeah, who's next? Do you? 713 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:27.840 I say you got that right? Seriously, though, where are we going 714 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.599 here? I mean, if we're going to I mean, obviously wrestling is 715 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.920 a very dynamic thing. We're going to. AW is going to sign some 716 00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.719 other people. Are any of these people that I mentioned or maybe somebody that 717 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:42.760 I didn't mention are day next on the block to be signed by AW? 718 00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.719 Who is it? Who would you like to see? More importantly, maybe 719 00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:52.880 who would you not like to see signed by aw Andre I would like to 720 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:59.000 see the obvious Mercedes Monette. I apologize my cat is interfering. I would 721 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.079 like to see Mercedes Mona. I would like to see the King Goo become 722 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:07.280 official. H this one is gonna be very unpopular actually, these two, 723 00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.239 and you know this is gonna be controversial, but this is spicy, right. 724 00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:16.320 I would like to see Elias given a chance in a w because I 725 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:20.800 really like his character work. I've never seen a single match from him, 726 00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:24.039 so I don't know if he can wrestle, but I really enjoyed his character 727 00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:28.800 work. And the same exact thing thing can be said about Enzo Amori or 728 00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:34.320 whatever his name is these days. Yeah, I think we're definitely gonna get 729 00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:40.960 Dolf Ziggler. And uh so you basically mentioned everybody that's alive, just just 730 00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:46.360 just five, Well you did. You didn't mention who's next though? That 731 00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:51.239 was gonna be my fifth person. I I'm gonna get crap for this, 732 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:52.880 but I want to see what they can do with Goldberg. I don't know 733 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:58.039 if that's going to be possible because I've heard backstage he thinks really highly of 734 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:02.880 himself, unlike Sting, who's really humble. Uh but you know, I 735 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:08.519 don't know, give me a chance of I'm gold break right, OCKI Who 736 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:13.440 do you think is up next on the block for a W to sign? 737 00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.480 And who would you like it to be? And who do you definitely want 738 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:22.679 a W to stay away from? So for one for dudes and one for 739 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:28.960 ladies. For the dudes, I kind of want to Dozuki because he's pretty 740 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:39.760 cool. And for Grandpa yeah, okay, okay, And for the ladies, 741 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:44.639 I kind of want to see Ronda Rousey. I don't know why, 742 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:50.280 because you know, apparently not many people like her, but you know, 743 00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:54.840 it would a conversation. She definitely would be a point of conversation. I 744 00:57:54.840 --> 00:58:00.519 don't have a problem with her. I don't really either. Air Let's go 745 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:05.079 to you. What do you what is your answer? I'd like to see 746 00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:09.599 Mustafa Ali Okay, like he's probably the best in ring guy of the recently 747 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:15.400 released batch of wrestlers and free agents that are available. He was always one 748 00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:21.079 of those guys that never got to fully express himself and wrestle how he wanted 749 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:24.079 to in the previous company that he was on, and he fits like that 750 00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:30.320 niche demographic. He's South Asian, speaks good English, so he's able to 751 00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:37.320 tap into a different demographic that others in AW currently cannot. So him from 752 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:45.760 the men's side, from would be Matt Riddle. Recently, with the signings 753 00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:50.760 of like Rick Flair and others, aw has kind of like or Tony Han 754 00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.800 at least has been a bit of a hypocrite in terms of his uh, 755 00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:00.280 his logic, his his tweets, his uh shot said w W in terms 756 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:06.920 of like Vince mc mann's s A allegations and the people that he's gone on 757 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:08.679 to sign. But matt Ril is definitely when I stay away from great in 758 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:15.199 ring, great character, but yeah, it comes with a lot of baggage. 759 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:22.599 Yeah, yeah, allegedly a lot of baggage. And from the women's 760 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:30.400 side, I've seen Ronda Rowsey wrestle against Athena and Billy Starks at that at 761 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:35.320 that indie show PW Revolver, and I was like, where was this Roonda 762 00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:38.960 Rowsi for the last two years of her career. She's not half bad, 763 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:45.039 really, Okay, that's interesting, Like she intrigues me and I'd like to 764 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:50.039 see I guess like the and she wrestled on R O H against Athena and 765 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.760 Billy Strucks as well. So I wonder if that match airs this Thursday or 766 00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:57.519 if it's like it was just for like the the crowd that was there. 767 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:00.960 But if it is, they are going to air it. Tony Connes said, 768 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.639 okay, okay, good and then so then it will be interesting to 769 01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:08.119 see, like how is she doesn't that element because if she's good in rings, 770 01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:14.440 she's arguably like the biggest name in combat sports as so far as women 771 01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:19.719 go. So she's someone who's like who's a draw? Right? Is that? 772 01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:27.440 Would you if they announced that the next Honor Club telecast? I don't 773 01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.079 know if they're doing one on Thursday because it's Thanksgiving. It would be kind 774 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.119 of stupid for them to do one on Thanksgiving, right, Not a lot 775 01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:35.559 of people would be watching. But they'd say that a week from now. 776 01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:40.480 Uh, they said, Ronda Rousey is going to her match is going to 777 01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:45.960 be on the Honor Club. Would you be you're not subscribed to? Would 778 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:52.000 you be more willing to subscribe? Oh? No, that's all gonna chee 779 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:54.719 my mind. No, okay, fair enough, that's going to get me 780 01:00:54.760 --> 01:01:00.639 to pay ten dollars, twelve dollars whatever it does these days, right, 781 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:07.719 probably get a free trial. Well, you know, I guess it's my 782 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:14.719 turn. Aw signed will Osprey. And one of the things that is cool 783 01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:19.760 about the will Osprey signing is that it was widely publicized, whether it's true 784 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:27.800 or not, that it was publicized that WWE wanted will Osprey and Aw Gottam, 785 01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:32.400 which is a coup or will Osprey and also considering to will Osprey is 786 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:37.360 one of, if not the best professional wrestlers in the world. Tony Kahn 787 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:43.280 did not say that, you know, Chicile, He was telling the truth. 788 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:45.960 It's plain and simple. He is. He's good on the mic, 789 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:52.119 he's fantastic in the ring, and that is something that's good. So who 790 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:59.800 should they sign next? You know, the men's side is a little bit 791 01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:05.039 convoluted, you know, because there's really not that quote unquote superstar. I 792 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:12.800 agree with what Air said about Mustaf al Alie. An argument be made being 793 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.280 that he's Ryan Nema's brother, that doll Ziggler would be a great signing. 794 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:22.159 You know, Goldberg coming in and doing you know, a part of his 795 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:28.360 retirement tour or his entire retirement tour with AW would be probably beneficial. I 796 01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:32.480 think people would tune in to see Goldberg on there. So I really can't 797 01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:40.920 come up with definitely no Matt Riddle, no, allegedly. But on the 798 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:49.000 women's side, there's two women. There's obviously the Mercedes Monet, who AW 799 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.039 would be foolish if it was possible not to grab. The other woman that 800 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:59.079 they have is Julia, who is in my estimation a far better wrestler than 801 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.119 Mercedes Monett. She's a little bit younger, not by much, but a 802 01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:09.079 little bit younger. Uh, And guess what WWE wants her. If AW 803 01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:14.920 could swoop in and get Julia and get her out from under, I think 804 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:19.880 Julia's contract is up in March, if I'm not mistaken with stardom, if 805 01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:24.599 AW could swoop in and get Julia and get will Osprey from w keep will 806 01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:32.559 Osprey away from WWE and Julia from WWE. Perfect And I watched several Julia 807 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:37.440 matches today as a matter of fact, and she's too damn good for AW. 808 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.920 To be honest with you, she's too dad good for any American. 809 01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:47.239 I really do believe her. Believe that. But the only drawback with Julia 810 01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:52.360 is that she is, you know, she's English born, She's Japanese and 811 01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:58.039 Italian. She doesn't speak hardly any English. Even though she looks like she 812 01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:02.000 could, she can't. So there's that communication barrier, which I really wouldn't 813 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.159 want to see something like Julia be booked like Ebbie Saker or her Karlshidi, 814 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:12.719 even Rijo even you know something like that. Julia doesn't speak English. He 815 01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.679 said, no, well, she's definitely gonna struggle in WWE. Then, 816 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:27.639 yeah, so, because I think they've done justice to their Japanese and stardom 817 01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:33.840 wrestlers Oscar Kyrie Deo is your champion currently they don't speak English that much. 818 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:39.199 I guess you're right. Yeah, women, Yeah, but you know what 819 01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:43.400 Kyrie and Eo have in common. They all got their asses kicked by Julia. 820 01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.920 You know, I mean, Julia is just if you've not if the 821 01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:54.800 listeners listening today are not familiar with Julia, just go watch a Julia match. 822 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.639 I explained this to one of our pillars of the community earlier today. 823 01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:03.119 We were talking about Julia. Julia wrestles like she's the size of Jade Cargill. 824 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:10.719 And she's pretty much the size of she's smaller than she's about the size 825 01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:16.199 of I don't know a I can tell you all size red velvet. She's 826 01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:20.840 the size of red velvet. Red velvet is tiny. Well, Julia is 827 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.360 I believe five five five four or five five. But what she's in the 828 01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:28.360 ring, she looks like she's six to one. She's just so much. 829 01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:34.559 She just her statures is. She's five four pounds and she looks and she 830 01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:39.480 looks like an amazon when she's in the ring. It's from London, but 831 01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:44.519 doesn't speak English. She's was born in London, but she's of Italian and 832 01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:50.199 Japanese descent. Interesting, and so she's she speaks Japanese and I've heard her 833 01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:54.960 roll from r so I'm assuming she speaks Italian too, But she does not 834 01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:58.280 speak English. I mean she can talk, you know, she can say, 835 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:00.920 you know, hello, how are you the thing? You know? 836 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:05.000 My name is Julia, you know, But she's not you know, she 837 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:11.960 well, she's nowhere near as a fluid as a Carlshida. I mean not 838 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:16.440 even close to to as a fluid that we met a car cut any promos 839 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.880 in a w Yeah, I don't understand it because I mean, if you 840 01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:25.639 ever watched her on YouTube, but Karlshida does English speaking YouTube videos where she's 841 01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:30.199 speaking English for like an hour and she's totally fine. You can understand every 842 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:34.079 single word she says. Yeah, Luca bros. Are not bad on English 843 01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:44.519 either. It's just I don't know why they don't set Jose the assistant coming 844 01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:50.920 out with every Mexican wrestler. He takes away attention from them. Phoenix and 845 01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:55.960 Penta, whenever they spoke in English on TV, They've done fine English. 846 01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:03.199 I don't need especially Phoenix, well Peta, for you know, Peta doesn't 847 01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:09.800 speak as much English as as Ray Phoenix does. That's clear. But I've 848 01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:14.280 always felt that the emotion you can communicate through your own voice, even if 849 01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.960 it's broken English language is it's it's a feeling type thing. You don't need 850 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.199 to understand every word of guys saying, but when you get the emotion across, 851 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:24.559 Like when Takesha is speaking in Japanese, I don't understand a word he's 852 01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:29.199 saying, but I feel it. I get the emotion it hits right now. 853 01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:32.039 It's a very very very good point. Even the crow. I mean, 854 01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:34.440 when you listen to the crowd reaction. You know that a crowd in 855 01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:40.679 you know, scuttle, but Indiana is not knowing fluent in Japanese. But 856 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:45.159 if Takeshta is out in that crowd, in front of that crowd talking to 857 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:50.039 Japanese, they get the gist of what he's saying. You're absolutely right, 858 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:58.719 think you meant Alex abrahand Is and I like Alex. My apologies to Hosey 859 01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:01.199 the assistant, who's excellent. He's the second best manager in ab behind Prince 860 01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:11.639 Nanna. My apologies to jose Oh God. Anyway, and on that note, 861 01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:14.639 I think it's time to end the show. We'll see you again tomorrow 862 01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:19.439 night for all the talk at ten point fifteen pm right after Dynamite, join 863 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:27.640 us on Reddit for our live chat and Air. Are we going to be 864 01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:31.479 doing a live chat tomorrow night on YouTube or is that being put off? 865 01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:38.560 We'll do our first aw Dynamite. Watch along for andre Aki and Air. 866 01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:44.399 This is Kelson and you've been listening to Ignition. Good night everybody. We're 867 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:45.119 at a time