1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,679 Elon. I don't think you've met Dean yet, Elon Musk meet entrepreneur Dean 2 00:00:04,719 --> 00:00:09,240 Phillips, also a presidential candidate now running. I think at about twenty six 3 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:13,439 percent in New Hampshire. Elon. Dean is under the age of eighty, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,199 he's run. He ran Belvidere Vodka. I think we might have popped a 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,320 bottle of Belvedere Laca back in the day. And he also, you know, 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,079 ran the delicious Silenty gelato company. So he's an entrepreneur, he's under 7 00:00:30,079 --> 00:00:36,079 eighty, and he's a moderate, and you know he has the backing of 8 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:40,719 Bill and myself now I think in this election. So maybe your thoughts today 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:46,799 just on twenty twenty four DII and Mark picking Day, everything well at Friscal. 10 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:52,240 I agree with the puzsanive attribute that you listed. I think there's definitely 11 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:59,320 something if you said full of those things. And I agree with what Blackin 12 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:03,640 said about the I you know this, we really want to in order for 13 00:01:04,079 --> 00:01:07,280 records be the land of opportunity, we have to be arit based society. 14 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:11,319 The moment we let go of being a merit based society, we are no 15 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:15,799 longer the land of opportunity, and that is very important to appreciate. So 16 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:19,000 out of King of this country is nothing. Actually it just ended up with 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:25,840 a ties student debt. And you know, I've had some success, so 18 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,519 you know, I think and and and this is this, This is true 19 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:40,879 of many people. And I think there's there's perhaps of sometimes I misunderstanding or 20 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:48,879 lack of appreciation that uh, when kids are born into comfort, there that 21 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:57,400 lack of adversity uh is actually a liability for them. It is not the 22 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:02,599 case that a lack of adversity makes them motivated. It tends to decrease motivation. 23 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,919 So the reason they had the sort of loads and peasants in most societies 24 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,360 and still you know some cases still have it was in order to preserve the 25 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:25,080 power of the the kids who were not as capable as their parents. So 26 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:30,400 and you know, and they wanted to have in America a place where you 27 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:38,439 could prosper and succeed based upon your merits, based upon your skills and hard 28 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:44,400 work. That's that was extremely important. So I just want to emphasize it 29 00:02:44,439 --> 00:02:50,199 is not the case that want its prosperity is a path to success. I 30 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,120 think it is very often not a path to success. You have to say, 31 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:00,240 how many second and third generations of those who were very success well are 32 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:07,199 themselves successful. They are the exception at the normal. Yeah, I think 33 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,039 we've seen that first and in uh yeah, in our circles and just the 34 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:16,879 people who tend to in entrepreneurship drive results are the ones who come from a 35 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:22,000 lot of adversity and my gosh, Silicon Valley gets you know, a pretty 36 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,319 gets criticized a whole lot. But just watching who has run to the positions 37 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,240 of power, in many cases immigrants, kids of immigrants, and people who 38 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,120 started with nothing. I think moving on to this election, Dean, I 39 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:40,759 was wondering if you could give us an idea of what it's like to be 40 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,159 running in the Democratic Party and what you're seeing, you know, in the 41 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:50,479 streets of New Hampshire, what you're you're getting from the electorate in terms of 42 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,479 their choice and a lot of us who are lifelong Democrats actually you want most 43 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,560 people don't know this, I think has been a speak for himself. But 44 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,960 sure a lifelong Democrat, yeah, so made for I mean as fared to 45 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:10,800 be a lifelong independent, but for practical purposes I have I have for most 46 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,159 of my life been a Democrat. Now I do believe that one should consider 47 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,040 both parties, and so I sort of favorite in patis thought that that you 48 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:25,079 shouldn't just vote for a candidate because of a political party. I think you 49 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:29,199 should vote for a candidate on the merits of the candidate and be open at 50 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,040 least occasionally to voting for the candidate of the other party. But but yes, 51 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,519 it's the life of never Democrat can mean, it can mean that you 52 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,920 will vote for a Democrat no matter what, and that is certainly not the 53 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:46,879 case. Remain Yeah, you're but but I have objectively, you know, 54 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:51,000 voted for Democrats the vast majority of my life. Yes, And so you 55 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,120 know, Dean, when when you look at the feedback you're getting on the 56 00:04:55,199 --> 00:05:00,800 choices people, I think overwhelmingly in America or not interested in a rematch of 57 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:06,839 that's another statement. And maybe yeah, and we're in fact looking for maybe 58 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,959 moderates, not lunatics on either side of the fringe, and maybe some normalcy 59 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:16,399 and competency in the White House. But you've had a heck of a time 60 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:19,920 getting on the ballots. So maybe you could talk a little bit about the 61 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:26,920 ballot issue being blocked by the Democratic Party, which we thought was hopefully going 62 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,800 to be incredibly democratic, and then just why you're breaking ranks and now the 63 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,600 most hated man in the Democratic Party for criticizing Biden running at his advance. 64 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,439 So you know, there's actually there's an interesting analogy here because in my business 65 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,199 life, my father, my partner Steve Gill, Josh hawkshul or others. 66 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:51,279 You know, we provided antidotes to duopolies. When it was vodka, it 67 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:56,120 was absolute and stolic Chnaia, and we introduced Belvedere. When it was ice 68 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,560 cream it was Ben and Jerry's and Hagenda's. We introduced to Lenti. And 69 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:03,240 it is the analogy of politics. We have Democrats and Republicans. And the 70 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,879 truth is it's great to be an independent in America until you run for office, 71 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:14,480 because the system is designed to prevent the success of independence, free thinkers, 72 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:16,240 people who might have some views on the left, some on the right. 73 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,879 In fact, it was George Washington that warned us in his farewell address 74 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,480 so long ago that he believed that the great risks of this country would be 75 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:30,000 in the development of factions, which is exactly exactly what we're facing right now. 76 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:34,160 So that is the system in which I now operate that I wish to 77 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:39,279 disrupt in the same way I did to the other categories, and to the 78 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,480 extent that you everybody listening, which is to join me. Doesn't matter if 79 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:45,519 you're a Democrat, a Republican, a libertarian, independent. By the way, 80 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,759 more independence in America than far more in fact now than Democrats and Republicans. 81 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,600 That's ultimately my mission, because the truth is both parties are participating in 82 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:58,639 the erosion of democracy right now. On January sixth, I will say that 83 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,480 it was an effort to prevent the counting of ballots. I was there in 84 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,680 the chamber that day. I felt it. You all watched on TV. 85 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:09,360 It was horrific. Democrats now in the state of Florida, in the state 86 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:14,519 of North Carolina have literally decided that Joe Biden won the primary. There need 87 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,759 not be a competition, and they will submit his name and all the delegates 88 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,319 to the convention in Chicago next year without even an election. Democrats have no 89 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:26,160 chance to vote. The state of New Hampshire, where I am right now, 90 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,240 you guys, it's even more appalling. The Democratic National Committee decided to 91 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:35,319 take one hundred and three year old extraordinary practice of democracy transfer. It to 92 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,920 South Carolina, and that means that any candidate on the ballot here, including 93 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:45,160 me, is not going to get any delegates, no matter how well we 94 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:49,040 do. In fact, it's so atrocious that the Democratic National Committee sent a 95 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:55,360 letter to the New Hampshire Democrats last week saying that this is a meaningless effort, 96 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,279 it is not an election and they should stand down, which got a 97 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:01,199 response from this State of New Hampshire. Listen to this. The State of 98 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,560 New Hampshire sent a cease and assist to the Democratic National Committee just days ago 99 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,240 for the quote unlawful suppression of voters. Now, I don't think most people 100 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:15,959 listening probably even are aware of this, but these are the truths, and 101 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,199 I'm on a Yeah. It's insane and it's wrong. It is just as 102 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:26,040 significant of an erosion of democracy as the effort to now one was violent in 103 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:28,879 a mob and a riot, of course, and it was horrifying, But 104 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:35,440 the behind the scenes effort to essentially disenfranchise Americans is just as dangerous. And 105 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,759 I'm going to make that case to you guys. I'm a proud Democrat. 106 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:43,279 I'm trying to, at least in a last ditch effort to restore the principles 107 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,399 of democracy through the Democratic Party. That's why I'm running. And the coronation 108 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:50,840 of a candidate, in this case Joe Biden, who is unelectable. Every 109 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:56,360 single poll is approval numbers, intuition. We all know why the coronation of 110 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:03,600 a candidate is exactly the opposite, is antithetical to what this country was founded 111 00:09:03,639 --> 00:09:07,600 on. So what I'm seeing you guys, is actually joyful. I've been 112 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,960 campaigning around the country and it is the most beautiful, patriotic, inspiring and 113 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,360 reinvigoring and reinvigorating experience you could possibly imagine. If you, guys, your 114 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,440 families want to come along for a couple of days, I'm telling you, 115 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,080 anybody listening, come along. If you want to restore your faith in this 116 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:30,519 country, join me and talking to Trump supporters to far left liberals to libertarians. 117 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,519 It is a beautiful, remarkable experience and entertainment which I considered the evening 118 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:41,600 cable opinioned news talkers would have us believe that we're so much more divided than 119 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,120 we really are. And I'm pretty appalled when I hear people say shame on 120 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,960 you for even appearing right now with those three guys on Twitter or on Ax, 121 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,480 I'm sorry forgive me, Elon, don't hold me accountable for that. 122 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:58,320 Sorry, I'm sure I bet you do it once and more. Whatever you 123 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:01,159 understand, It's just I was trying. I was trying to brood in the 124 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:07,320 platform beyond the original premise of short text messages like that. So that's my 125 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,919 whole case is this, guys. I love conversation. I can never do 126 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,879 my long test exactly, So that's all. You know, Guys, what 127 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,200 I love about this is we need debate. We need deliberation. You know, 128 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,480 in business, I was taught, I was taught. I was that 129 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,120 if two people always agree, you only need one of them. We need 130 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,159 to celebrate difference. I just want to close with this, Jason. You 131 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,919 know, we going back to what you start and what Elon said as well. 132 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,000 You know, two things can be true at once. We should be 133 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:39,559 a meritocracy, but we should also ensure that everybody can participate in that meritocracy. 134 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,039 And I think we can all agree on that, and that's to me, 135 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,240 the grand solution for our country is to do just that. There has 136 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,159 been injustice, we can correct it, and we can correct it for everybody 137 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,519 so that everybody participates. What a beautiful outcome. I got to tell you, 138 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,799 guys, Joe Biden and Donald Trump are not going to be the guys 139 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:01,519 that can even dream about that, let alone execute it. They aren't prepared 140 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,600 for AI. They don't understand what is forthcoming, what we can do, 141 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:07,080 and how we can do it. And that's why I'm running. And I 142 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,240 got to tell you it's the most extraordinary and fun experience of my life. 143 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,360 And I hope people can come out and join me because it is, uh, 144 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:20,600 it's reinvigorating. So Bill Ackman, I'm curious you're a position on just 145 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:24,159 what's happening in the Democratic Party. Obviously, I think you've been a donor 146 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:30,799 and obviously you get courted by them. What is your best thinking handicapping of 147 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:37,159 what the Democratic Party is doing by not having debates and putting up a candidate 148 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:43,600 that is so unpopular and that is you know, I think you've said this, 149 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:48,159 you know has no chance of winning. And then what do you think 150 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:56,960 of this Democratic Party machine blocking the debates and blocking the balance. I think 151 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,720 it's an embarrassment to our country and I and I'm ashamed. And you know, 152 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:07,440 I know some very high quality people that have good relationships with tender Reschumer, 153 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,720 who I've enormous respect for as a good man, and I can't imagine 154 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,840 his being sort of part of it. I think the original premise was, 155 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,000 well, quote unquote, the only person who can be Donald Trump is President 156 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:20,639 Biden. So we got to stick by President Biden. And I think that 157 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,879 was the original logic behind putting up Biden the candidate, because they didn't see 158 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:31,600 anyone a logical person they felt that could be competitive with Trump. Now that 159 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,960 as Biden falls further and further behind the polls, as his health and cognitive 160 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,240 health, you know, sort of obviously deteriorates, I think there's got to 161 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:43,279 be great concern. But all of that being said, I think it's a 162 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:46,000 bit like we go back to the Emperor's new clothes, you know, well 163 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:50,120 the childhood book. No one wants to say the Emperor has no clothes. 164 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:52,639 And I give Dean a lot of credit for saying that, because again, 165 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,639 if you step out of line. Unfortunately most people in Washington, being a 166 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,080 politician is a career, it's a source of income, it's their business, 167 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:07,279 and they can't risk not getting re elected. Right, So if you challenge 168 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,120 the king, your toast and there goes your career, right, It always 169 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,399 comes to back to incentives. In my view, drive all human, babe. 170 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,080 You look at the incentives of the people. Most of the people large 171 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,799 in the Congress. I mean, Dean has the benefit of he's a super 172 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:24,080 talented entrepreneur. He can go right back to that anytime he wants. He's 173 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,200 made some money, so he's say if he doesn't need the job, and 174 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,440 therefore he's unfortunately one of the few people, or always say fortunately he's one 175 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,559 of the few people who can step into this race. But I think everyone 176 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,879 else is. You know, if the machines against them, there's no chance 177 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:41,159 of reelection. You know, in the Congress, you've got to get reelection. 178 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,240 Every coompany bills, right, you guys. I got to say, 179 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:48,600 you know one thing, another truth is that Congress is populated almost exclusively with 180 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,799 people that have been brought up in the political world. All they know is 181 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:58,279 a spirit of competition winning the next election. And that's why incumbency is part 182 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:05,639 of the It's almost biblical in politics. The incumbent is always recordinated. Forget 183 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:09,279 the data, forget the national mood, forget winning. It is just baked 184 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:13,360 in. So the absence of entrepreneurial spirit, and looking at this from a 185 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,200 different perspective is staggering. And then to Bill's other point, you know, 186 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:20,080 I have been successful, and that means nobody can buy me, nobody can 187 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,960 influence me. I will always make the right decision, but I won't make 188 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:28,879 that decision until I hear from all perspectives on any issue. And as the 189 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:31,519 only member of Congress, you guys, five hundred and thirty five people, 190 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,879 I'm the only one that takes no pack money of any kind that means corporate 191 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,320 or union or anything else, no special interest money. I don't take any 192 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:45,000 lobbyist money. I don't take or give money to fellow members of Congress because 193 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,039 that's basically just money laundering. And I don't have a leadership pack, which 194 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:52,240 is basically just a politician's slush fund, the only one out of five hundred 195 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:58,440 and thirty five people. And people wonder why policies tend to favor only the 196 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,759 wealthy and well connected. Well, you got the farm industry that brings three 197 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,639 hundred million dollars a year to Washington in the form of lobbying and in the 198 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:11,639 form of campaign contributions, literally enriching the campaigns of the very people who are 199 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:16,679 on the committees of jurisdiction for their industries. All it is is legalized corruption, 200 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,960 you guys. So I understand why people who support Donald Trump are angry 201 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,440 and they're fed up and they're nauseated, because you know what, I've been 202 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,679 on the inside now for five years and I am too. So I appreciate 203 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,840 those words from Bill and he's spot up. I want to bring up a 204 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:35,200 topic that's, you know, being discussed on x every day, videos being 205 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:43,720 shared, and it feels like it's a top it might be the top topic 206 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,799 of this election, which is the border. Kelan, you have to you're 207 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:52,799 an immigrant who came to this country again with nothing. I think you seem 208 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,679 to have done okay for yourself so far. Keep working, I mean so 209 00:15:54,759 --> 00:16:00,080 false, so good. You know, yes, okay at one day and 210 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:03,960 you can make it too one day. It's America. I would say most 211 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:11,440 most of the eland's games are paper games. That's question. Yeah, but 212 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:18,639 what do you think as an entrepreneur ended immigrant elon a reasonable immigration strategy because 213 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:22,279 we have two groups that you know, on one side there seems to be 214 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,639 absolutely no border control. On the other side, Hey shut down the border. 215 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,480 What would be a reasonable approach that you ask somebody who's an immigrant and 216 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:34,279 who needs to get talented immigrants to work at space X, to work at 217 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:40,320 your companies, what would you do if they said hate Elan? You decide, 218 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:44,279 well, pray first last that I should send a very pro immigrant, 219 00:16:44,279 --> 00:16:47,919 obviously being one myself. And you can just look at the you know, 220 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,080 old aces that have come to America and built incredible things to say like, 221 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:57,399 wow, it would be foolish if that if we had prevented them from coming, 222 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:02,120 or if they chose not to come because they've added so much value to 223 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,200 the team. I mean, you can think of I think the right way 224 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,880 to think about countries like a pro sports team. It's like, okay, 225 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,240 you want to get the ace players on your team, or and you suddenly 226 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:15,200 don't want to force them to fight against you on the other team. That's 227 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,559 crazy. And if you add, if you you add some ace players to 228 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,400 the team, that's going to help you win the championship and it helps the 229 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:29,640 whole team. So I'm very much a favor of a greatly expanded UH legal 230 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:37,319 immigration system because right now it is trying to get us a green card or 231 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:48,680 citizenship. Is UH a byzantine, kafka esque laborious uh and just flat out 232 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:55,680 wrong. It doesn't make it's it's an insane obstacle course to become a parent 233 00:17:55,759 --> 00:18:00,039 resident and then a citizen, and and and and it's to a very small 234 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,759 number of people. So when you really need to first of all fix that, 235 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:10,079 and then secondly, we cannot have not really an open border, but 236 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:14,240 a border where the federal company is facilitating the transfer of vast numbers of people 237 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:21,480 into the country. And even when say Texas tries to take action to enforce 238 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:23,200 the law, the federal government is trying to stop them from doing so there's 239 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:30,160 like literally a federal laws lawsuit to stop Texas from actually enforcing the legal immigration 240 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,559 laws. And it's important to bear in mind that the United States is only 241 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:40,240 four to five percent of the world population, so it's very easy for the 242 00:18:40,279 --> 00:18:48,359 varied states to get swamped by illegal immigration, just absolutely swamped. And you 243 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,839 know, if if you're somewhere else and you say, like, okay, 244 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:55,640 well they're going to give free money, housing, and medical care to illegal 245 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,599 immigrants, and you know, and that exceeds the standard of living in half 246 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:02,279 the world, why doesn't half the world just move here. That's certainly that 247 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:04,519 you know, as as Bill said a moment ago, instead of dry behavior. 248 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:08,839 Obviously, it'd be strange if they didn't. And so and what we're 249 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:15,279 seeing as that word is getting out so that it's getting it's going viral. 250 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:18,119 Basically, legal immigration through the southern border is going viral. This is not 251 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,799 a Mexico thing. Almost none of the people coming across are Mexican. Yeah, 252 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:26,759 and you saw it first, says And just so people know this is 253 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:33,839 being positioned Bill as some sort of a partisan issue. There was just a 254 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,839 pull that came out this month. Seventy five percent of the country, seventy 255 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,799 five percent of Americans view what's happening at the border as a crisis or very 256 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:45,640 serious. So I guess Bill, I'll hand it to you. You heard 257 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,119 you all sort of Yeah. I just want to like that people do not 258 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:55,039 just look at the graphs of the rate of growth of illegal immigration. It 259 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,599 is going exponential. Is it is going like it's going you know, to 260 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,079 use a rocket ship analogy, it is a rocketship of growth of legal immigration 261 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:07,519 because because of social media, everyone on Earth knows this and they all know 262 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:12,200 and it is now an industry from speaks for getting as Oni Lemit are all 263 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:18,720 absolutely so it's it's exactly the amount of press on it has now given it 264 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:22,880 a tipping point back when I'm curious, Bill, what your thoughts are on 265 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,640 this and what's reasonable? I mean, you have countries Australian, zeal And, 266 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,799 Canada, the Nordics say, well, are based on a points system, 267 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,559 right, and they have specific number targets which we don't have in this 268 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,240 country. And then Dan will go to you because I know you have a 269 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,880 reasonable position on this, so Bell and Nindian. So I totally agree with 270 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,599 Elon and this. And my wife's company recruits, you know, scientists all 271 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,240 over the world and she generally gets them because they need a very very high 272 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,839 standard for you know, their their backgrounds. But it's still a huge process. 273 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,200 But the notion that you know, like one of my colleagues at work, 274 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,559 uh, it was married to a woman from South America. You know, 275 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,920 she's you know, got two degrees, super capable, smart, you 276 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,200 know, makes a lot of money, and she still hasn't gotten her green 277 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,799 card, okay, and she's married, legitimate everything else. It's a huge 278 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:14,799 pain in the ass. And I think that speaks to it but I'd love 279 00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:17,599 to take my time and turn over Dean. Actually, you know, this 280 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,799 is one of many I thought very thoughtful perspectives he had on a kind of 281 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:25,839 a critical issue, and I just agree. I think a very high percentage 282 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:30,240 of the country is we need a solution. But Demons Jill, lay out 283 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,720 what you're I appreciate it. I well, let's start with the basics. 284 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,720 You know, unless you are a descendant of enslaved people or indigenous Americans, 285 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:42,839 all of us have an immigrant background. My fore mothers and forefathers escaped programs 286 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:47,400 in Eastern Europe in the late nineteenth century. All of each of the four 287 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,599 of us have stories of immigration. It's the most beautiful part of America. 288 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:52,960 It's what made us the most remarkable country on Earth. I think we can 289 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:59,839 all agree on that our system is not just broken, it is so dysfunctional 290 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:03,400 and so poorly managed. Even with the laws we have in place and back 291 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,839 to management, we've not had a legitimate executive as president in a long long 292 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,000 time. The amount of time it takes Bill I spoke to your associate who's 293 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,119 facing that problem. You won't believe this, but every single member of Congress 294 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,920 will tell you the same thing. We are the de facto customer service departments 295 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,559 for every federal agency because they are not managed by managers, they're managed by 296 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:30,079 politicians. They do not understand customer service. They have no reward system for 297 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,519 customer service. It takes people months, sometimes years to get an IRS check 298 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:38,200 back to get their green card process. So even the law that's in place 299 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:41,680 right now, if the laws in place right now, they're not even being 300 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:45,720 well executed, which is the job of the executive. So my proposition is 301 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:48,599 this, we should lower the barriers to entry to legal immigration. We should 302 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:55,599 be welcoming, inviting, attracting, hospitable to people. Yeah, with ideas 303 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:59,599 and capital and want to be part of this extraordinary experience here and just like 304 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,079 you that reference to a ball team or something, elon, Yeah, we 305 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,680 should attract the stars, but we also need the support team, the people 306 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,960 taking care of the field and preparing food and helping coach, and the bat 307 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,039 boys and the bat girls and the whole that's the whole duty of America, 308 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,880 right, So we all agree on that. So here's my proposition. Yeah, 309 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,759 no, actually should class It's not just like attract the elitest. I 310 00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:23,839 mean, I think that's the reason that if I think anyone who is like 311 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:30,039 honest, hard working, I mean i'd be fair of like if like if 312 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:33,079 they're going to have if they have high integrity, are going to work hard 313 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:40,480 and contribute to to to the economy and producers and services like that's that's that's 314 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,519 going to be a plus. But that we're losing a lot of that talent, 315 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:48,200 like yeah, well there's to Canada too, and people are getting educated 316 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000 here, then we actually lose that talent. And and I and if I 317 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,119 could, if I could just continue with my proposition, because I think we 318 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,880 should lower the barriers to legal immigration and literally raise the barriers to illegal immigration. 319 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:02,240 It's not rocket science. And I'm a Democrat who's telling you the truth. 320 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:04,319 I've been to the southern border twice. I have seen the atrocity. 321 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:11,200 It is inexcusable. How much of this dene is because Trump said we have 322 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,039 to build the wall. And there Democrats are saying, I just don't want 323 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,200 to give Trump a win, and just that you know what, he got 324 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,200 something right, We have to close the southern border. Is that what happens 325 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:26,759 in meetings amongst Democrats is that they're just scared of you know this optics of 326 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,079 giving Trump a win on bit or you know, or is it something else. 327 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,559 It's very confounding the American the seventy five percent, or looking at this 328 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:38,240 saying fix it. It's a crisis. It's a big problem. Yeah, 329 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,000 why you guys, just I'll tell you, jakel what The first meeting I 330 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:45,519 was invited by Donald Trump to the White House was in twenty nineteen, and 331 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:51,039 it was about the border wall. And it was an experience right out of 332 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:52,759 Saturday Night Live. We had about an hour together about eight of US, 333 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:59,119 four Democrats, four Republicans, and I listened to him make his proposition because 334 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,640 if you remember, he he shut down the government because he didn't get the 335 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,279 funding for his border wall. And during this discussion in the White House situation 336 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,160 room, he remarked and was he was flabbergasted that Congress wouldn't go along with 337 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:15,240 just building a few hundred miles of border wall. And I actually, I 338 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,319 actually interrupted and I said, mister President, a few hundred miles this is 339 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,359 proposed as a you know, from the Pacific to the Atlantic, you know, 340 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,119 see the Signing Sea, kind of medieval wall. And he says, 341 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,519 no, it's just a few hundred and I could tell. His team immediately 342 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,359 interrupted him because they didn't want the truth to be known because it had been 343 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,559 a political proposition. We're going to build a wall now, and that's how 344 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:44,279 things work, you guys, And that's there. But there you go. 345 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:47,480 Well it's a red herring exactly. And you guys, and this is this 346 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:51,039 is the binary nature of this day and age, particularly in Washington. It's 347 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:55,039 such a joke. You're either for or against. It's either good or bad. 348 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,759 In this case, his proposition was a tiny portion. Yes, we 349 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,079 need some barriers, of course we do to prevent entry. But what he 350 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,119 didn't talk about is the fact that our ports of entry are so archaic, 351 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,880 the infrastructure so poorly designed for basically the mid twentieth century, not for human 352 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,079 beings and for commerce. When I was down there, I saw human beings 353 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:19,359 in cages. I saw a line of a mile long of semi trailer trucks 354 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,920 waiting and baking in the heat because it's so slow and arduous to get across 355 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:30,119 the border. And probably a half mile long line of people who come across 356 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,119 that border every day to work, to shop, to go to school. 357 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,680 And this is the United States of America. In the twenty first century. 358 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,319 It is appalling. So yes, we can at border security. We will 359 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,160 have border security, by the way, not just at the southern border, 360 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,200 but at the northern border. We are not long away, my friends, 361 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:52,279 months or maybe years from huge migration waves due to famine, due to war, 362 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,319 due to lack of clean water, and we should be prepared. It's 363 00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:59,079 not inhumane. What we're doing now is the most inhumane. So here's my 364 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:06,000 proposition. It's the asylum policy that it is the source of this whole problem, 365 00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:10,279 and it is so fixable. Elan you know this. We listen to 366 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:15,000 what the United States is doing right now. We are forcing these people who 367 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,519 wish to become Americans, first to save about ten thousand dollars per person, 368 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:25,160 and then to make this arduous journey across the ultimate through the Rio Grand where 369 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,200 people literally drown. They pay the Mexican cartels ten thousand dollars to be escorted 370 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,279 across, enriching them by the way, which is just nonsensical. They're processed 371 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,559 by border patrol agents then literally dumped in the streets of El Paso with not 372 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:41,960 a penny in their pocket, don't speak the language and cannot work. And 373 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,960 now become the responsibility of cities that have no money. The federal government, 374 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,119 including the Biden administration, not giving any support to help them. So here's 375 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,960 what we do. It's so simple. Change the law so that asylum cases 376 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,279 are actually filed in the country of origin. So let's say you're coming from 377 00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:03,440 El Salvador in the Northern Triangle countries, you would file your case at an 378 00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:07,920 consulate or an embassy. I believe we should build dormitories nearby, very inexpensive 379 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,599 to keep people safe while their applications are being processed. If they're at under 380 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,880 risk. When we adjudicate it locally, first, we have people there that 381 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,359 actually will know if it's a legitimate case. If they're approved, we escort 382 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,240 them to the United States. And best of all, they have ten thousand 383 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,279 dollars per person to start their lives here, to become owners of this economy. 384 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,079 They can open a restaurant, they can put a down payment on a 385 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,599 place to live, and we don't have to use our existing social services to 386 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,440 get them started. They want to work, and that's the easiest way to 387 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,599 fix this, And in the meantime, we're doing it completely the opposite, 388 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,880 and that would stem the wave, and that would stem the wave, and 389 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,960 we could as solve vote. But I'll tell you why it doesn't happen. 390 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,359 They'll wrap up with this. There's no political courage because every single person in 391 00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:57,759 Washington wants to get re elected in their next election, and they know that 392 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,440 doing the right thing will undermine their chances because of this country that has so 393 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:08,920 separated and become so binary. And that's the answer. And it's almost as 394 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,799 if we're steering based on what's in the review mirror. You look at the 395 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,960 reason people are upset about immigration is that we had all of these jobs leaving 396 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:26,039 touring free trade, and now we are at the lowest unemployment of all of 397 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,000 our collective lifetimes, the four of us at least. I don't know how 398 00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,720 old people in the audience are. We've still got almost two jobs for each 399 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:36,640 unemployed American that the unemployment rate is under four or five percent. Right now, 400 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,559 I want to talk about the hardest topic for a politician to talk about, 401 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:45,640 which is spending the national debt. Now we've added about twelve trillion dollars 402 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,279 between the last two presidents. I think it was eight. Bill Lackman, 403 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,079 maybe I could have you just sort of teat this up for us here, 404 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:56,799 and how concerned you are about our national debt? If you are eight billion? 405 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,079 I think under Trump obviously COVID you know, it was a bit of 406 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,039 a wildcard there, and then Biden's gone buck wild as well. I think 407 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:06,839 you put four or five maybe he's that five or six trillion on top of 408 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,079 that. How big of an issue is the national debt? And what's the 409 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:17,000 you know, if Bill Ackman was president, if you gave the plan to 410 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,680 Dean or where the advisory committee to say, how do we get to sing 411 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,519 under control? What would be your plan to kind of land this plan safely? 412 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,720 And here I think I'm going to for a Dean, I'll give you 413 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,880 a kind of quick view on it. I think the biggest problem that we 414 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,400 have now is that we have a Congress that sort of figures out want to 415 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,519 cost them nothing politically or otherwise to support a bill to give money to someone, 416 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,359 and in fact, if anything, it helps them get reelected. And 417 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,559 so the people politicians are spending the country's collective future. And that's what when 418 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,039 you're borrowing money that gets paid back in the future, you're borrowing from the 419 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:52,799 next generation, giving it to distant generation, and we don't have kind of 420 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:59,119 a culture of fiscal discipline in Washington, and unfortunately, you know, it's 421 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,640 we've lost people. You know, the numbers are so large, people just 422 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,240 sort of ignore them. In terms of thirty four trillion of debt, you 423 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:08,160 know, I think the way to look at this is, you know, 424 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,160 it's a bit like you can't look at debt on as stendable one basis, 425 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,519 you have to compare it to the quote unquote value of the country. And 426 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,039 the value of the country is very very high. Right. The government owns, 427 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:23,200 you know, the right to tax its citizens and tax its corporation, 428 00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:27,599 so it basically owns you know, call it thirty five percent of SpaceX. 429 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,400 It owns thirty five percent of you know, federal government. Ever, every 430 00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:36,519 person's sort of income, and they have the right to adjust that dial. 431 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,079 Right, So that's a very valuable asset. And plus we have enormous real 432 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,759 estate assets and other assets globally, et cetera. So it's an enormously valuable 433 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,720 country. But the trend is very very negative, and we've been you know, 434 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,519 it's a bit like you've been, you know, living in a world 435 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,960 where your cost of money was very close to zero. You accumulate a ton 436 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,319 of debt in that world, and now the world gets repriced at a much 437 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,759 higher interest rate, and all of a sudden, we're spending on interest pretty 438 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,319 soon, and we're spending on national defense, and that's a grave threat to 439 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:07,640 the country. And there is a moment at which the bond market, you 440 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,880 know, you know, we get into a bit of a death sparl. 441 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,640 So I think this very f prospect. I asked Ian precisely this question at 442 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,359 on Friday, and i'd look for the group to hear his answer. Yeah, 443 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,519 thank you, Bill, and everything he just said is spot on. 444 00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,119 We have thirty three trillion dollars in debt just a couple of years ago, 445 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,400 mid twenty one. I think the interest on that debt was about one and 446 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,480 a half percent roughly. Now it's a little over three. So about one 447 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:36,240 hundred and fifty basis point change in just a couple of years. That's going 448 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:37,720 to turn out to be about if it stays, and by the way, 449 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,079 it might even go up, it's going to be about a four hundred billion 450 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,119 dollar incremental change to our debt service responsibility. And as Bill just said, 451 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,920 we will not just be approaching our defense budget. We are then officially spending 452 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,039 more on the past than we are investing in the future. There is no 453 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:01,359 money left to spend at a discretionary level in the United States. And while 454 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,079 our country first of all, I am pro growth, and I ultimately want 455 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:09,319 to develop policies to grow our way out of this mess, it's not going 456 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:14,400 to be easy. We have to be become more efficient as well, and 457 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,480 if we do so, we can actually make it happen. But in the 458 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:20,319 meantime, what no one talks about. We can accommodate a little bit more 459 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,359 debt. I think so, but nobody is talking about that. Debt service 460 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,960 to go from four hundred billion a year to about eight hundred billion a year 461 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:32,400 is a huge change and a troublesome burden for all of us. And when 462 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,799 I become president, I have a few propositions. First, I'm going to 463 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,920 have a bipartisan cabinet, not comprised of politicians, but of the best and 464 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,279 brightest operators and managers in America. I don't care about politics. I care 465 00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:47,799 about principles, experience, and capacity to lead. I'm going to have a 466 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:52,119 youth cabinet as well. That's another story. I will employ zero based budgeting 467 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,400 because I've never encountered an organization, institution for profit or non that budgets in 468 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,480 the manner that we do by people who can't even read a P and L 469 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:05,799 or a balance sheet. We have a Pentagon budget that is approaching a trillion 470 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:09,039 dollars and they cannot passing on it. So I will engage one of the 471 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:15,119 big international consulting firms to conduct a top down assessment of every federal agency, 472 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:22,000 every program, every expenditure, and make an independent proposition to me and to 473 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:27,199 the Congress about how we can improve efficiency and delivery of service. If we 474 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,400 are not generating ROI on our core mission, we should eliminate it. And 475 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,639 if there's a private enterprise that can do so better, we will outsource it. 476 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,360 We have got to operate more efficiently, and then you all know, 477 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:45,079 you guys are successful men in America. We can only match reductions and expenditures 478 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:50,679 with increases in revenue if we hope to get our way out of this mess. 479 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480 In addition to pro growth policies. But I don't blame people right now 480 00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:58,000 for not wanting to share more because they don't believe in their government, They 481 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,280 don't have faith in our executive leadership and we have to do better. But 482 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,719 as you know, gentlemen, I propose a massive change to our healthcare system. 483 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,079 Not the provision of care that has to be private. But we're spending 484 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:14,000 twice as much than any nation in the world per capita. Our outcomes are 485 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,679 mid pack. We're the only nation in the world that has pharmaceutical pricing like 486 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:22,719 we have. We could reduce healthcare expenditures in our country and generate better outcomes 487 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,119 by also reducing the consumption of our GDP from about eighteen percent to about ten 488 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:32,440 percent. These are ways we can actually save money and generate better outcomes. 489 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:39,559 And yeah, I think the zero based budgeting technique something which is public now. 490 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:44,480 I think Elon you did Elon when you took over Twitter, or maybe 491 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,679 you could speak to the power of zero based budgeting and maybe Elon explained to 492 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,519 the audience what that is and why it's important. Yeah, it's pretty simple. 493 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,000 You really just start with nothing and build up from there, as opposed 494 00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:04,159 to starting with what exists subtracting, so you know, unless something is obviously 495 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,599 useful and contributing to in the in the the case of Twitter X, making 496 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:14,039 the product better or running running the Silver operations. Uh, then than that 497 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:20,440 role shouldn't exist. And and then obviously to create an intesta structure where the 498 00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:25,760 rate of innovation and improvement of the product is what gives people ahead and and 499 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:36,159 not have the the process for investment be obtuse or backwards. So and and 500 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,920 we're we've gotten more done in a year with twenty percent of the personnel than 501 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,559 Twitter had with hypercent personnel over five years. So you can even see in 502 00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:52,119 the evolution of spaces. I mean, we unfortunately try to hold the spaces 503 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:57,559 and it just broke when we you know, just when we had the Rons 504 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,960 of Sciences spaces and I was I'm trying to have spaces be you know, 505 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,440 as non pot as them as possible. And so I'm glad that Dean Phillips 506 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,800 is doing this. Then you're doing it. The point is not to promote 507 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,400 one ideology over another, or one political group or another, but to provide 508 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,119 a forum where the public can listen to candidates from a wide range of view 509 00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:28,280 points and make their decision regarding their vote. And I'm just against anything that 510 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,119 utterminds the democratic process and certainly getting candidates especially popular, you know, o 511 00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:39,199 key candidates that are quite liable removed from ballots is taking that decision away from 512 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:47,960 the public, which is fundamentally anti democratic. That's insane. So and you 513 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,800 know, some political party shouldn't think that they know better than the public. 514 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,880 And I think I also took about these, you know, the lawfare. 515 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,159 We're using the judicial system to get Canada to all ballots. Also good let 516 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:07,079 the public make make their own decision, that's the whole. That is literally 517 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:13,440 what democracy needs. So well, yeah, it's pretty crazy. I will 518 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,119 say I'm disappointed being a former journalist has been a while now in twenty years, 519 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:21,519 but that the press is not covering Dean, the fact that you're being 520 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,079 blocked from certain ballots. I did a search on Google this this morning and 521 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,920 trying to find good money covering the issue. And you know, I was 522 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,440 talking to the best Day. I'll have him remain nameless right now, but 523 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,239 he basically, you know, dispected me, like, how can you block 524 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,920 somebody from even being on the ballot. And I'm not talking about Trump and 525 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:50,840 the in direction you know cases, I'm talking specifically about you, a Democrat, 526 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,559 being blocked from being on the ballot, and the press won't cover it, 527 00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:59,360 but they will cover them the Trump you know, over and over again. 528 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,079 Soas what's going on in your press machine? Good Bill, Yeah, 529 00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:06,320 if I could just jump in because I wanted to make a point on this 530 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,559 sort of bigger question, which I think is a really important one. So 531 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,599 one of the on the downside case, here's what we have to worry about. 532 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,440 The debt accumulations happened during one of the strongest economies we've had in you 533 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,559 know, generations, right, and now you're set up with an enormous amount 534 00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:23,280 of debt, a huge deficit going into what could potentially be a recession. 535 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,440 Right. That's when now your revenues are declining, your debt is compounding, 536 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,480 and that's a really, really bad outcome. That's why the next president, 537 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:35,719 it's critically important that the next president of the country is a talented, successful 538 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,039 business leader because fundamentally, the United States is a massive business. Now it 539 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,039 suffers from We've seen this on a much smaller scale in everything from railroads to 540 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:50,840 restaurants to various other businesses. But a poorly run business, as you know, 541 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,440 tons of duplicative costs, an uninspired team, doesn't use technology effectively, 542 00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:00,920 the incentives are misdesigned, and there's really no, no culture of excellence, 543 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,920 and fortunately that describes a lot of our government. But I've also learned that 544 00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,159 just putting in one new person to a dysfunctional company, you can do an 545 00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:15,280 incredible turnaround because that person attracts really amazing talent if you find the right one, 546 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,880 and then you know, you make a tremendous progress. And the appeal 547 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,519 to me of Dean is he's a legitimately successful business person. He gets it. 548 00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:28,440 He's smart and is capable, and he spent three terms, uh and 549 00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,480 being you know, been re elected in the Congress, understands how the government 550 00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:36,760 works. You have a combination of business talent and understanding. You know, 551 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,920 cost control, designing incentives, you know leadership, you know, charismatic leadership, 552 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,960 which is necessary to achieve these goals. And also you know, how 553 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,360 does the system work? How do you break the quote unquote politics, how 554 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,159 do you fix the culture? You know, he has those elements and that's 555 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,199 what's made him a very you know, pealing candidate. To me, I 556 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,760 just want to make sure people understand what Bill's talking about in a crystal clear 557 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,280 fashion. There is a website for the Saint Louis fed It's called Fred and 558 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,679 you could just look up gross federal debt as a percentage of gross domestic product, 559 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:13,280 our debt to what we make. For the majority of our lifetimes, 560 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,280 it has been between a thirty and sixty percent, in other words, our 561 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,000 debt to what we produce every year. The last time it broke one hundred 562 00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,360 percent, and you know right now, I think we're at about one hundred 563 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,639 and twenty or so was at the end of World War Two. That was 564 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:34,119 the spike. It took us in that spike, gosh, from nineteen forty 565 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,199 six when the war ended, forty five, forty six, all the way 566 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,440 to you know, the seventies, in order to work off two and a 567 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,320 half decades to work off that debt. We are now, to Bill's point, 568 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:50,079 in a vibrant economy at one hundred and twenty percent. This is and 569 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,440 the most acute issue you can think of. It's incredibly hard for politicians to 570 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,280 take this on. And the reason it's my number one, you know, 571 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:04,199 I understand we have culture wars going on right now. Trump is triggering people, 572 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,679 Biden has got cognitive issues, the border a bubble. Else if their 573 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,400 balance sheet is broken, this holding can come apart. And the idea that 574 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,760 people can get stimmy checks or unemployment. This could be kindaclismic. Yes, 575 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,840 absolutely. And by the way, Steve Balmer has an organization called the USA 576 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,280 Facts and encourage people to take a look. They present the US federal budget 577 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,880 in a way that anybody in business can better understand. It's really great work. 578 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,639 I'm not sure Joe Biden can read a P and L a balance sheet. 579 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,960 Donald Trump, you know, Donald Trump, through his bankruptcies, clearly 580 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,239 can't either. And I do think it's time that we start recognizing that these 581 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,199 are times where we should be reducing debt because when we face another recession or 582 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:54,000 crisis, it reduces the capacity to respond to provide the stimulus necessary to get 583 00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,119 us out of it. I think we're all in agreement on this. It's 584 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,599 nonsensical. We cannot spend two trillion dollars annually more than we generate in revenue. 585 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:06,920 And as one of you guys said earlier, you know, the incentives 586 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:14,079 in Congress are so perverse. Nobody is rewarded for reducing costs or generating more 587 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,480 revenue. I've never had someone come to my office and say, please spend 588 00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:21,119 less on my program or please raise my taxes. So we can generate more 589 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,480 revenue. I mean, come on, it doesn't happen for obvious reasons, 590 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,119 and there's no courage. The obvious question is I know to fix it. 591 00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:30,320 Okay, now you're president, tell us give us the first one hundred days. 592 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:32,400 You understand the system, that you understand the broken incentives. So here 593 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,599 we go. I'm glad for the question. Executive leadership. The best, 594 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,800 the most extraordinary bipartisan cabinet in American history. We maybe we'll have a third 595 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,880 of them on this spaces right now, by the way, guys, and 596 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,400 then we go into zero based budgeting, a comprehensive assessment, attracting the best 597 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,719 and brightest. By the way, I can't do it alone. No individual 598 00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:58,719 can do this alone. Has to attract extraordinary Americans. That's how we start. 599 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,320 At the executive level. I'm the second most bipartisan member of Congress, 600 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,679 Bill you know this. That means I work beautifully with people on both sides 601 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:12,119 of the aisle. And I will work with the Republican Party to better manage 602 00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:14,559 our government. It is a focus of THEIRS. I will work with the 603 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:19,679 Republican Party on national defense and security. I will work with my fellow Democrats 604 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,000 on some of the issues of raising the foundation, healthcare, housing, education, 605 00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:28,679 cost of food and fuel. We can actually combine the core principles of 606 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,599 both parties right now and do better. All of us have negotiated. You 607 00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:36,320 can't take everything off the table. And by the way, you got to 608 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,119 put people on the plane at the takeoff if you want them there at the 609 00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:43,599 landing. And I have to tell you this might surprise people listening, but 610 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:50,480 I've received an extraordinary number of thoughtful, friendly texts and calls for my Republican 611 00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:55,559 colleagues in Congress saluting my effort in running for president against an established incumbent against 612 00:44:55,559 --> 00:45:00,679 one's party. I cannot wait to get to work. They can't wait to 613 00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:06,239 get to work. The system is suffocating and stifling the very progress we need 614 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,119 to make. And that's what happens when you have people in Congress in the 615 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,880 White House who have been there for literally fifty years, guys. So that's 616 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,440 how we start fixing it. Bill. But my call to action right now 617 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,159 for everybody listening, in fact, is to start considering. If you're a 618 00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:23,519 person who's been successful, you're looking for your next endeavor. I mean it. 619 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:29,360 The elections coming up in November inauguration day is January twentieth of twenty twenty 620 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,800 five. We are going to need an extraordinary number of great executives, great 621 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,440 managers, idators, innovators, and to fundamentally change the operations of a government 622 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,119 that is increasingly broken because of an exodus of the very people of confidence who 623 00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:50,199 have left in the last number of years. And Jason, I was going 624 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,760 to answer your question really quickly about being left off ballots and it's not being 625 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:58,119 reported in the news. Look at I'm staggered, you guys. One reason 626 00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:01,639 I'm thrilled to do this spaces with you is to call attention to the truth 627 00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:06,440 that is not being reported. It is dangerous, it is despicable. But 628 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:13,000 you ask why, because the Democratic and Republican parties are private institutions. They're 629 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,320 not public. They don't work for us, They're working against us. And 630 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,239 I'm really sick of and I'm a competitor. I want to create competition from 631 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,199 both the inside and the outside. I'm a proud Democrat, you guys, 632 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:28,719 but I'm a disruptor and there is a day coming where we need to ensure 633 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,800 that there is competition for these two parties because in the future it is only 634 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,320 going to get worse when you have the wrong people in the wrong positions working 635 00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:39,119 against us. And by the way, you want to learn more about me, 636 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:45,800 go to my website. Oh, Jason, he's got it down dot 637 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,800 com. You got it were happier. I just want to say, it's 638 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,280 great to have everybody come on and have this important discussion. You know, 639 00:46:54,599 --> 00:47:00,800 this is I think the year that the two party system really do get challenged. 640 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:06,000 I think it's it's thanks to places like x and Twitter where people can 641 00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:10,960 speak freely. It's thanks to podcasts and alternative media channels. And the public 642 00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,760 is sick of these two parties and the choices. You know, say what 643 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,960 you will about. You may like them be not RFK, you may like 644 00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:22,000 him not. But man, we are starting to see a lot more choices, 645 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,320 and if we don't like the choices we have, we have to fight 646 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,800 h to get more choices on the ballot and data. I'm really excited that 647 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,320 you left, you know, being an entrepreneur and running businesses to go be 648 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,199 of service. We know, Jason, I'm still hey, you know what, 649 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,039 I'm an entrepreneur still. In fact, it's the most it's the most 650 00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,480 important entrepreneurial mission. Of my entire life. And so to you, j 651 00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:50,199 Cal, to you, Bill, to you, Elon, thank you, 652 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,400 and I need your help, I need your advocacy, and everybody listening, 653 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,639 I love you all. Let's get to it and let's shock this country in 654 00:47:55,679 --> 00:48:00,119 November with the most massive change for the better we've ever ever dreamt about. 655 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,079 Well, thank you, thank you for coming on nex spaces, and I 656 00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:09,840 think people will be break glad to hear from you directly and be surprised about 657 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,199 some of the negative tactics that have been used against you, which are obviously 658 00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:20,119 inappropriate and underminded democratic process. And I mean to be honest, I actually 659 00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,880 had not heard of you. Well, I sort of make we heard your 660 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,119 name, but I didn't know you were appalling. So I literally at that 661 00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:31,639 in the last few days and just I mean again, I'm seeing such obvious 662 00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:37,840 facts that there it's a miarrocable that one should even have to state them. 663 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,920 But the public should have the right to pick the candidates that the public once. 664 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,679 That's the whole essence of democracy, and you know, we should be 665 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,000 against anything that underlines that, whether it's a public and democrat or otherwise. 666 00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:54,039 You're here. I guess if I can I'm not the campaign manager, but 667 00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:57,920 I guess my suggestion would be the following. Uh, you know, Dean's 668 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,519 put five million dollars of his own money into his camp, Pa, I'm 669 00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:05,440 contributing a million towards his pack, and I just you know, you're contributing 670 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,760 ten dollars, one hundred dollars or otherwise. You like what you heard, 671 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,360 Money actually matters. It cost a lot of money in litigation and otherwise for 672 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,280 him to get on ballots, and that's before kind of getting the word out. 673 00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:16,840 This is one of the most capable people I've ever met. I believe. 674 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,239 I'm incredibly excited that he's running from president of the United States. I 675 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,519 think the country is really fortunate. It's taking a lot of personal risk and 676 00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:28,280 attacks and all the other things things I get used to over time. But 677 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,039 if you like what you hear, find a way to help the guy Dean. 678 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,000 How can people help other than money? Hey, thank you. Treasure 679 00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:38,320 is really important, but your time, your advocacy, and your invitation. 680 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,119 I'm going to be crisscrossing the country. I've got lots of days on the 681 00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:45,280 calendar shown up in a lot of states. If you send an email to 682 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,239 me at Dean at Dean twenty four dot com. Believe it or not, 683 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,239 I actually see it, as does my team. If you want to help 684 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,239 us out, you want to host a gathering to introduce me, you want 685 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,760 to write postcards, you want to do some door knocking, tell your friends, 686 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,280 tell your family to vote in primaries. If I could just make one 687 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,280 final call to action, guys, the reason we've handed over the keys to 688 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,840 the furthest Right and the furthest Left is because the parties don't want you to 689 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,280 vote in primary elections. They want to coordinate a candidate and then force that 690 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,320 choice upon you. So please register to vote in your primaries, and then 691 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,480 let me know if you want me to come to your town and do a 692 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,599 rally, do a fundraiser, do a meet and greet, and help us 693 00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:29,599 out. You guys, it's all up to us, the powers in everyone's 694 00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:32,079 hands. Still, let's keep it that way. And exactly what Elon said. 695 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,400 The minute they start taking names off ballots, suppressing you, refusing to 696 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,880 debate, we are in big trouble. But it's not too late. So 697 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,360 thanks Bill, thanks for the shout out, and to all you guys, 698 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,280 I think the world of view. And one more thing. If I may 699 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,880 be rude to interrupt one second, Dean, one of the other things. 700 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,000 For people to support you, they have to believe there's a credible path for 701 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:53,159 you to be president. I think you make a very well you made a 702 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,079 very credible case which convinced me. Once you go ahead and just chhare people 703 00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:59,719 shortly. Thanks Bill. So here it is guys. You know I'm an 704 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,599 under and I love it, and that's why we're going to succeed. We're 705 00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:07,760 scrappy, we're efficient, We're using twenty first century technologies to do better. 706 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,039 It starts in New Hampshire. January twenty third, just about eight days from 707 00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:15,440 now, is the first primary election in the country. And if we surprise 708 00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:21,119 that night, it's game on. And if any of you listening have friends 709 00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,639 here, have family, want to spread the words somehow in New Hampshire to 710 00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:27,760 get people to come out and vote in the primary for me, mark my 711 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,039 words, that will be the igniter for the whole campaign. Either way, 712 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,800 I will be continuing, and my mission is to get to this summer June 713 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,880 July, before the convention in Chicago, to a point where the country knows 714 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,760 me. I got a lot of work to do to introduce myself. When 715 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,239 they do, I almost I can almost guarantee that the polls will continue to 716 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:52,159 show Joe Biden losing to both Donald Trump and probably any other competitor, and 717 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:57,239 also will show me probably beating Donald Trump and other competitors. And when that 718 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,199 happens, Democrats will have a very choice. Do we coordinate an unelectable candidate 719 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,559 or do we get behind someone who can't just win but can actually achieve reasonable, 720 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:13,800 common sense solutions and actually get this country to be excited and joyful and 721 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,840 optimistic. Again. That's my mission. Bill and all of you listening would 722 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,960 love to have you join the Dean team because we can do it. We 723 00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,360 absolutely can do it, and I'm not going to give up. And today's 724 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,440 a great day. Thank you all very much. Thanks so much Elon Bell 725 00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:34,679 for joining us, and Dean, we thank you for running and your public 726 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,239 service and commitment to helping solve America's problems in a reasonable fashion. We wish 727 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,679 you the best. Everybody. Go to Dean twenty four dot com if you 728 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,440 want to give a donation if you have the means to do so. If 729 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,400 not, yeah, just tell your friends, maybe tweet about it, X 730 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,800 about it, post about it on X. I'm catching up. In fact, 731 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,440 i'm catching up to Elon. I've got forty thousand followers on X and 732 00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:58,360 you're only at one hundred and sixty nine million Elon. So I'm catching up 733 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,639 fast, catching up fast. Yeah, closing, closing fast. Thanks everybody. 734 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,679 That's good, all right, Thank you, Thanks for cheers. Like 735 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,760 and subscribe if you haven't yet, and I will see you in tomorrow's episode. 736 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,719 Thank you so much for watching.