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The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend. Now

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here is your host, TJ.
Leaves. Well, we get ready for

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a huge weekend of action from Las
Vegas to Puerto Rico and even to England.

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We're ready to cover all of it
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Hello there, welcome in and to
all the dads, Happy Father's Day.

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I'm merely TJ. Reeves. He's
another dad, Dan Rayfield, Happy

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Father's Day to you, my friend, And I know, I know,

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Look, you love being around your
family and around your son, but there's

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probably secondarily nowhere you'd rather be right
now than where you are. The venue

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that you're going to be in,
which we're going to talk more about and

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a big time Gervonte Davis headlining David
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ready to discuss on the Big Fight
Weekend preview. I am merely TJ Reeves

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our insiders, Dan Rayfield. Fight
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Hello, Las Vegas. You are
ol on location at the MGM Grand and

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getting ready for everything that's going to
happen on Saturday night. How are things,

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my friend? Things are good?
T Jo. I'm excited to be

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here. You know, this is
my home away from home. I wasn't

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going to miss the one hundredths of
vent here. I've been to a lot

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of them. I've enjoyed it,
and it's just there's been a lot of

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I mean, people are looking forward
to the fight of course with Tank Davis

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and Frank Martin, the co main
event with Benavides against Alexander Vodzik, but

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there's been a lot of conversation with
my colleagues in the press room and people

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involved, people from the casino,
people from the world of boxing, even

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the fighters have been talking about it
and we're going to get to it in

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our nostalled dis section. But just
the ridiculous, amazing history of boxing in

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this building that I have been to
so many times. It's a real privilege,

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and the fact that you get to
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one hundred just sort of a random
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people make a big deal about it, and it's great to look back.

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We look back every week the show
and the amount of history that has been

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made right here, you know,
downstairs from where I am is just remarkable.

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And I've been really fortunate to be
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it. All right, we're gonna
get into the fights here in just a

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little bit. We got Jervonte Davis
on the show. Dan was right there

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getting some Q and a opportunity with
him. Got a couple of questions in

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you'll hear from Tank Davis. Not
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Vegas beating Ryan Garcia. I keep
saying this, Ray Phiel, we got

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it. We got to keep track
of all the jail time and every he's

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been in jail, now out of
jail, now ready to go in his

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in his latest big time event.
You'll hear from Javonte Davis in a little

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look, we've also got prominent fight
card in Puerto Rico that has IBF Junior

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welterweight Champs Subrio, Mattias Puerto Rican
defending against Liam Parro and in England the

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WBO Cruiserweight titles on the line earlier
in the day on Saturday US time Saturday

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night in London for Chris Billum Smith
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So we've got a lot to cover
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program. And by the way,
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we got across the board. We
got a lot to preview and a

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lot to get into here on the
show. Let's do it, baby,

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Let's do it all right, So
again, set the scene just real quick

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before we get into the specific matchup, Davis and Frank the ghost Martin.

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You've been there now for a couple
of days at the time that we're talking.

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It is hot. I was there
with you eleven months ago in July.

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We know it's hot in Vegas in
June. How figuratively hot is Vegas

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right now? Midweek? Building to
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when people say it's hot in Vegas. All I know is when I walked

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in the door to the kid when
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morning. My plan is to not
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the airport on Sunday morning. So
I'm in, you know, because what

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happens when the fights are at the
T mobile you're outside. You know,

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you're you're in the plaza. You
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you're certainly walking somewhere afterwards, whether
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go to the hotel across the street. You're outdoors at some point. When

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you're here at the MGM and the
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you know you're not unlessarily leaving.
Now, There's been plenty of times where

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you go with folks and you may
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there's a media thing at a gym, or you go to see another fighter

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working out or something like that.
This particular week, there's none of that.

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Everything is in the casino. So
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But the fight, Look, there's
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people are talking about the fight.
You know, it's a it's a

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good event. They're really Besides the
promotion of the actual matches that are on

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the card, there is a lot
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The MGM and has become, in
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home of boxing for the biggest fights
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way for a number of years and
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to know it, and they're doing
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we say that Gervonte Davis has drawn
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in Las Vegas as he did a
year ago, but he headlined for a

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pay per view in Atlanta that drew. He headlined in his home area of

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Baltimore that obviously drew. He's been
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COVID Crazy What twenty twenty twenty twenty
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My point is he's a drawing card
and as we build this and we

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get ready to preview this fight,
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this one hundred show at the MGM
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he's all. He drew in Los
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you said, he's sold out in
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Baltimore. Did the biggest gate in
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Washington, a building that's been around
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has hosted major sporting events, has
hosted the biggest concerts. So he

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set the all time record a gate
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for a mega fight when he fought
Hector Luis Garcia, not exactly the name

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of Ritan Garcia. Yes, Tank
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that. How he's going to sell
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get into that because Tank hasn't done
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He didn't. He did a bunch
of scrum interviews on the day of the

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news commerce to announce this fight,
which took place on on the on the

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day of the Canelo Alvarez Himon win
Gie fights I was here that took place

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in the same media center we're here
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interviews during the during the training camp
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arrival ceremony and then did some interviews
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news conference, I had a chance
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hear that later in the show,
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to me is that he was really
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think he kind of likes dealing with
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don't really know why he he put
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been no promotion for this. Is
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does? He did? He neglect
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Because as you said, he promoted
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the media was around him. What
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So in the interview that they'll hear
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about that, and I basically approached
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a really good mood today at press
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it was very pleasant to say,
he lo to me to see me,

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you know, you know, it
was me and Benny, how you've been

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whatever, smiling and in a very
tripper mood. And they'll hear I won't

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ruin it. I'll let them here
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He'll tell you exactly why he skipped
the skip the arouse. I don't agree

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with his reasons, but that's his
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All right. As for the matchup
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handicap it more go on the record
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Us. But as a matchup,
I am intrigued. They're not paying us

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to say this, but I am
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a very talented fighter, and there
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of the ring for more than a
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please, I have no I mean, they're just the same. What

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you said could perfectly true, but
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out is going to have any bearing
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it's not going to be because he's
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for fourteen months. That was another
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But my perspective is, you know, he's been doing this for most

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of his life. He trains,
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know, it's like muscle memory,
and I fourteen months is you know,

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it's a long way up. But
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thof I mean, now give you
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times where guys come back and maybe
they're rusty, and certainly that's part of

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it. But I do think it's
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So I'll cite you the example.
Say Floyd Mayweather, for example,

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who was you know, used to
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you know, a mentor and fighter. Not not so close anymore. But

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the point is when Floyd went into
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ring for I don't know about three
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years, something like that, and
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who was one of the pound for
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him out. Basically, there was
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you may whether it had been retired
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few years you wouldn't know that you
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amazing today as he did last time
he had their gloves on. So I

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think that Tank's going to fall into
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is not going to be a factor
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has the skills and or the punch
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story. But I don't think whatever
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to be because somehow the fourteen month
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terrible impact on Tank Davis. All
Right. As for Martin and his legitimate

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chance to win, when last we
saw him, it was a July,

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basically eleven months ago, he won
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also has a win over Michelle Rivera, another fellow contender that was an unbeaten

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against an unbeaten fight That was December
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here on on Martin's chances to hang
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mode. Well, I like Frank
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I've had him on past prospect lists. I've thought very highly of him.

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Ever since I first saw him.
I've seen him come up on some of

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these major undercards and he's look good. He's definitely got skills. He has

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a good amateur background. He's also
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old, so he's in terms of
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now at this point, and he's
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professional fights as well as the types
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He's been part of that, the
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the Derek James Jim you know.
One of the interesting aspects of the fight,

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it's not has nothing to do with
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but I find it interesting is that
his promoter of record is Errol Spence Junior,

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who's been here talking up his guy. And he's also trained by Derek

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James, who obviously he spent all
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when you saw at the news covers, Errol Spence and Derek James sitting a

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few feet apart from each other.
Even though Darren broiled in this pretty nasty

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litigation over the accusations that Derek has
made that Errol Spence has shorted him what

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he owes him financially, but at
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same team because they're both just here
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had the experience in that gym,
he's had great training, he's worked with

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Errol, you know, so he's
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And I also get the sense,
and I've said this before, not to

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say that the other opponents that Tank
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had no confidence or anything like that, but I get the distinct feeling from

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being around Frank a little bit and
seeing this his body language and the way

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he asks is he really does believe
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not so sure that was the case
with some of Tank's other opponents. Not

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to say that they weren't confident,
they didn't try, but there's a certain

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part of why arrogance about Frank Martin
where I get the feeling like he's like,

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don't worry about what I say,
just watch what happens on the Saturday.

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Now. Whether I'm feeling it the
right way or not, who we'll

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see, you know, in a
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he's gonna go in that ring fearful. My question is does he have the

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physical skills and tools to actually win
the fight. He's gonna have the box

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a perfect fight because at some point
Tank Davis, even though he throws very,

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very few punches, he's very inactive, but he has a massively high

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percentage of landing his punches, so
he's gonna land something at some point.

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The question is can Frank Martin take
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he's got a chance to win some
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because he does have quick hands,
he does have quick feet, he does

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have a good IQ. I'm not
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because I'm saying he has a batch, but we've never seen him take,

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you know, the biggest punch in
the world. He hasn't fought that level

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of puncher in terms of his professional
experience thus far. But I think this

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is a real fight. But Tank
Davis has the great equalizer. He's one

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of the great punchers in boxing,
and I think he has a little bit

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of underrated boxing cells. I personally
don't find his overall fights the most enthralling

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and exciting. What is enthralling is
exciting is when he finally lands and he

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knocks the opponent out. And so
the question is, can Frank Martin do

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enough to avoid the big giant punch
and can he time Tank's punches because he'll

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have the chance to do that because
Tank throws very little, so he'll have

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time to maybe pick off the shot, land something in between, because he's

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not going to be, you know, facing an avalanche shots. Like some

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guys, they just bring so much
pressure you can't get away from the punches.

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That's not Tank's king. He throws
a couple of shots here, a

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couple of shots there, but he's
very accurate. The question is can he

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time that and punch between it and
land his own shots and do some damage.

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We're gonna find out, We absolutely
are. You'll hear from Tank Davis

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momentarily. I'm just looking at the
recent history. We know that the Garcia

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fight ended with a body punchunch to
the ribs, and we now know revealed

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after he had either a cracked rib
or a badly bruised rib, that Davis

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found the magic button with hitting him
with that punch. You were there obviously

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in January a year ago when he
beat Hector Luis Garcia. He wore him

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down, he stopped him. Rolando
Romero was one shot, one wicked punch

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caught him coming in. That was
May of twenty twenty two, and I

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harkened back. I mean, you
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You know, he wore down Mario
Barrios in a competitive fight, but he

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starched Leo Santa Cruz with one big
uppercut. He clearly. My point that

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I'm finally getting to is he can
clearly in the fight with one shot.

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We saw it against Garcia, we
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against Leo Santa Cruz, and Martin's
got to be careful of that one more

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time. Well, I'll put it
to you like this, if you told

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me that your scenario was the following
that were into about the sixth round and

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Tank has been getting out box and
maybe you have Frank Martin up four rounds

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to two. Let's say they're going
into the seventh round, and it looks

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like, you know, Martin's been
doing a heck of a job out boxing,

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was staying away from the big punch. He's leading in the fight,

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and then all of a sudden he
gets not cold. That's an absolute scenario.

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I can see it happening because that's
the kind of power and the precision

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and the poise and the patients a
lot of peas that tank Davis has.

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And I agree with you, and
we've seen the demonstration of that now because

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I mean Santa Cruz in their fight
was getting to him, was landing until

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he got annihilated with the uppercut.
Garcia was even having some success fourteen months

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ago until he got back with the
body. I can't get with you.

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I can't get with you on the
Santa Christians fight because that to me was

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always a mismatch that was always going
to end that way because Leo was a

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much smaller guy, right, It
has never been the biggest on defense uh,

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and it was to me anyway.
It was simply a matter of time

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till Frank, I mean tell a
tank rather connected and ended uh Leo that

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night. But the other fights you're
right in terms of Ryan Garcia, they

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can, you know, they can. He can match uh tank for speed.

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He also was a very powerful punch, although a different kind of power.

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He was more of an electric snapping
left hook where his tank is like

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a brupe bludgeon type of type of
a connect when he hits his opponent.

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To me, the the onus that
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Can I stay away and box enough
to win some rounds and to frustrate him

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and whatever, But it's Tank finds
a way to get the guy out of

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there. All right, we've teased
it enough. You had a chance to

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speak with Tank Davis right after the
press conference. Let's go to that right

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now and hear his frame of mind
as you said, what's up with the

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promotion or lack thereof? Get the
answers from the man himself right now in

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a preview, Hey, how are
you? My man? Been a while?

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Could talk to you, first of
all, not to believer the point

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about it. I just want to
he look like you were in such a

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good mood today, fucking stuff with
Frank back and forth. What was up

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with yesterday? I saw your tweet
you didn't come out to the to the

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oval. Was you know they had
a fight up and they had a big

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man then fight on on the MGM. Why they ain't pit me up there?

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That's why I feeled though, like
what's going on? Like why I

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wasn't up there. Oh, so
it was that that was not I feeling

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though, They're not like when I
fought Ryan, you know what I mean.

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It was flyers everywhere. There was
a lot going on for this fight.

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The feelings though, like they're not
going enough. I mean, they're

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not going where they're supposed to be
going, you know what I mean.

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So it was all that was the
whole thing. So then I went past

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the again, I went past the
MGM, and I ain't seen my band

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down or this is what you know
what I mean. When I came to

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Florid fight when I was young,
I seen the band down as I seen

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all that came with fighting and the
jim hanging down the side of the door

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then and I said that that's where
I wanted to be. That's what everybody

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come in to fight for, you
know what I mean. He didn't come

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in. I didn't get all the
way here to get cheated, you know,

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halfway, you know what I mean. So now you come back after

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what was I don't know if you
considered the biggest win of your career,

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but certainly the biggest fight of your
career against Ryan Garcia last April. Do

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you think that was your biggest win, biggest fight. I finished that.

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It was my biggest fight. You
could have such a big deal. A,

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yeah, it was. It was
a huge event, you know what

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I mean. It was two young
superstars going at each other undefeated. I

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finished, though. Just a good
fight, I mean, a big fight

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too, to be honest. That's
what I was asked about. Do you

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feel like, I know this is
a big fight because it's the next fight,

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But I wonder like in your mind, because you had such a massive

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event in the last one, is
it at all hard to sort of like

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get back up for that fight for
this fight given what was the hoopla of

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the last fight. For sure,
because I finished though, to be honest,

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I finished though that, So it
is harder to get it back up

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for it. No, it's not, it's not hard. It just aftertered

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though that technical like I skill for
skill, I feled though Frank and Ryan.

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It's like similar hand as like what
skills. Okay, So as far

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as a punch of power, I
don't know till he get it to get

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in that one, you feel like
whatever Ryan presented it Frank is on that

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level. Yes, I feel I
feel go for sure. So after you

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beat Ryan. You know, we
all know you how to go do your

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forty four days and in jail.
How hard was it to go from the

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highest of highs of that huge victory, a big knockout, a lot of

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hoop, a lot of money,
and then all of a sudden, you

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know you're you're doing your time?
Uh? It was? It was It

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was hard once up when once I
first got in there one because I felt

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like I was I was getting out. What once once I knew I was

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standing there and it was like,
Okay, I gotta do my time.

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I got to like basically not turning
to one of them, but just like

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I just start working out more.
I just start you know what I mean,

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reading and there I started going a
lot of things that just to get

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my mind off during the time.
So I was asking when you when you

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were able to come out, where
was it? Uh? How hard was

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it to get back into the boxing
methole, to get back in the gym

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without with Calvin? It was it
was soon soon soon I got out.

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That was my mind just to get
back focused on That's when That's why I

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started training. When I was in
there, I'm like, I gotta get

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back. So it was a fourteen
month lof though, you feel like it

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would be as sharp as you were
when you knocked out Ryan Garcia because you

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had been active, you had you
had fought in January against the other Garcia.

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Yeah, I'm really not sure how
I get in there, but I'm

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for sure that I've been doing this
fun, you know what I mean,

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so long. So I don't think
that fourteen months, you know what I

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mean, I was inside, I
bought inside play that on that highest level.

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And when from when you have this
fight? Now, I know nobody

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likes to really look ahead the fighter
wise, but what this is a big

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fight, But what's your big big
fight after this? Do you think?

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It's a lot of great guys and
lightweights and you're welcome, it's a lot

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of guys we got, we got
a lot of people like I'm I'm over

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in the fight for all of them
though, But people don't know that.

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I just not judge, but I've
probably been in month thirty five to I

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was like, I mean like for
like two years or two years, like

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I ain't really grow into the one. Fair to say, you're not looking

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to go to the forty three?
If I if if it's a great avitune

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in like a great fight Abbatueen and
yeah. But other than that, I

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mean, it's not really like Rush. I'm not rushing to go to the

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one. All right, thank you, I appreciate it. Thank you again.

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This is why I love having you
on scene. I love you for

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many reasons, but I love having
you on scene. You were standing right

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there with him on Wednesday after the
press conference, So what did you make

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What did you make of his demeanor, et cetera, having been right there

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face to face with him, tej
I thought I thought. I thought Tank

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had a great demeanor. I thought
he was in a good mood. He

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was smiling, he seemed happy to
see me and others in the media,

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where he hadn't done any interviews the
entire promotion up until pretty Wednesday anyway,

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which it's unfortunate because he only hurt
himself. He's going to be the one

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that makes money off of the number
of pay per view sews, so it

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seems sort of count or productive.
That's a whole different story. But look,

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Tank is ready for this fight.
I think he's excited to get back

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in there after being off for the
period of time he was off, and

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he's just looking forward to to putting
on another big fight. I mean,

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this is what he does. It's
sort of like muscle memory. He's been

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doing it since he's a kid.
I mean, this is how this is

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how he makes a living. This
is what he does. He's who he

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is, and I think he's pumped
up to be back in the ring.

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You may not think Frank Martin is
a big name, but he's a talented

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guy. He's a worthy challenger for
Tank Davis's lightweight title. Tank is,

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you know, and like I think
a lot of the fighters on this card,

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they're excited to be part of this
historical card because it's a one hundred

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boxing event taking place at this you
know, legendary venue. So yeah,

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I mean everything is as they say, TJ all systems are going. We

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love that, all right, So
moving on on the card. We've already

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heard from David Benavitez on this podcast
feed in advance of fight week. Excellent

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job getting him on board. You've
now been around him as well at the

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press conferences. Obviously a Friday way
in coming as we do the podcast here

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in the preview mode Thursday night into
Friday, and Alexander Vodzick obviously he's a

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former world champion at light heavyweight.
It's Benevedez moving up. Thoughts on this

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in the preview mode is it's about
to be upon us. I mean,

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I may be wrong about this,
but I think Benevie is gonna look sensational.

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He's had an easy weightcut, from
what he says, because he always

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struggles to make one sixteed even though
he's made it. This is you know,

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he's got a big frame. He's
very excited for the card, as

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he always is. He's you know, he's definitely looking at this as a

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great opportunity to make a name for
himself in a new weight class, a

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weight class where I think he can
thrive in for a number of years.

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And Votik is a good opponent.
I'm not. I have nothing negative whatsoever

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to say about Alexander Votzik. The
only detriment in my mind is the fact

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that he's ten years older, and
he has that in a real fight in

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quite a while, because the last
time he was in a quote unquote real

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fight, he got knocked out by
ar Through better be if it was a

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competitive fight, but he took a
lot of damage in that fight. He

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retired for three and a half years, and even though he's looked pretty decent

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in the comeback fights, you know, one of the comeback fights was against

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a complete nobody, the other two
against little bit better of a competition.

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But that's a whole different ball of
wax when you compare him to and in

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your prime physically motivated, hungary,
dynamic puncher, brawler, uh big man

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like David Benavidiz who also has great
stamina on a great chin and and a

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lot of tremendous attributes that you know
he may be able to wear out the

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older guy. Now, Vodik spoke
about he always gonna use his footwork at

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the at the press cover he was
talking about and whenever a guy say he's

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gonna win because of his footwork,
getting the fuck out, you know,

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you know that's sort of like that
to me is like I just when I

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hear a guy say he's gonna win
because he's got experience in his you do

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his ring generalship. That's not what
bodes E said. I was giving you

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00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:42,079
other examples when a fighter says that
that's a lot of like word style,

407
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,319
that doesn't mean shit. It's who's
gonna be able to you know, punch

408
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119
out, you know, out punch
the other guy and and and do some

409
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,640
damage and win somewhere rounds And then
to me, that's David Benavide's in this

410
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:56,559
kind of fight because he is a
prime guy ready to go. I mean,

411
00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,279
it's a it's a it's a legitimate
match up in terms of him moving

412
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,640
up and wait. But like I
said, I think he's going to thrive.

413
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,039
He looks strong in a very very
good frame of mind. I believe

414
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:08,759
maybe I'm just a little biased because
of the attitude in the way that he's

415
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,279
spoken when I interviewed him for the
podcast you mentioned that we played last week.

416
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:17,920
But the opportunity, to me anyway, what makes this card interesting.

417
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,519
And again I'm not kissing anybody's ass, I'm just being real. Tank Davis

418
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,079
and David Benavidez are among the two
or you know, the top American boxing

419
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,400
stars there are, whatever level you
assigned to them, but they have headlined

420
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,839
their own pay per views that have
been successful. You know, Tank did

421
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,119
the million plus against Ryan Garcia,
but his non Ryan fights have been in

422
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,559
like you know, in the twos, which in today's era is actually pretty

423
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:44,839
good because there's not a lot of
guys doing that. Canelo obviously is not

424
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,480
American, but he does the bigger
numbers. And David's two pay per view

425
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,240
events were maybe slightly below two hundred, but still fights that did pretty well

426
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:56,640
all things considered. So that's who
we have. So this is a chance

427
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,200
for him to make himself a bigger
star. But we get to see both

428
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,400
of the guys I just mentioned.
I'm the same card. It's not going

429
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,279
to become a regular thing. I
think this is like a special situation,

430
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,599
partly because of the hundredth, partly
because of PBC's own situation with their gates.

431
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:12,440
But we got the two top American
stars in pay per view at the

432
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,319
moment in my mind, other than
maybe a Ryan Garcia, but he's got

433
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:22,039
his own set of problems, and
they're fighting reputable, quality, solid legit

434
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:25,640
opponents. You know, Yes,
the stars are the favorites, but it's

435
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,160
not like either. They're not fighting
the Peter mcnei's of the world. They're

436
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,119
not fighting hobos. They're fighting real, solid, strong professionals that come from

437
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,319
good cedigree. That we're good amateurs. I mean, Vodzick is an Olympic

438
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:38,319
medals and a former lineal and WBC
World Champion. There's no joke. So

439
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,160
David is pumped up for this fight
as he should be, and I'm pumped

440
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,799
up to watch him fight in person, and again we'll talk more. Second

441
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:48,640
mentioned on the bet Us show,
is it going to be a knockout?

442
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,920
Well, Benevetez has plunged translated light
heavyweight. All of those are questions that

443
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,799
we're going to get answered coming up
on Saturday night. All right. Rest

444
00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:02,079
of the card that includes on the
pay per view, Gary Anjwin Russell and

445
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:08,160
Albert Playo vacant WBC interim Junior welterweight
title Carlos Adams. Also, hey,

446
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:12,680
defans the full WBC middleweight title.
He's been elevated. This is his first

447
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,759
title defense against an American Intererell Gachet, So say something about those fights real

448
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,240
quick before we move on. Well, Gary Antwine Russell, everybody knows,

449
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,680
I think if you're a die hard
enough to be listening to this podcast,

450
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,279
that he's the brother of Gary Russell
Junior, who's the former featherweight champion and

451
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:30,359
the brother of the vandaweight Garytonia Russell. So he is a tremendous fighter.

452
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,640
Though I think he's maybe has the
potential to be the best of the Russell

453
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,279
bunch. He was an Olympian,
he's undefeated seventeen and oh with seventy knockouts.

454
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:40,880
The big thing to me is he's
just inactive like a lot of fighters.

455
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,720
Unfortunately, he has not fought in
ten months, which for a fighter

456
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:47,799
of his age and at level,
is really unfortunate. But he's a dynamic

457
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:49,200
fighter when he gets in the ring, he's got good power, he's got

458
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,799
great skills. He's a top amateur. As I mentioned, he was an

459
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:55,319
olympian, and Plao was a former
world champion. But he's the guy that

460
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,000
lost his title because he got busted
for a positive drug test. He got

461
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,680
dropped from the fight. As you
remember, he was supposed to defend and

462
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:07,720
he was tripped, and we saw
Roly Romero fight a different opponent. I

463
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,759
just feel like that style Wiseyo,
well, of course, I'm sure give

464
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,960
a good effort, but the speed
and the defense and the punching power Gary

465
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,559
Anton Russell is already in my mind
if you match them with any of the

466
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:21,680
top not I mean, Touyo is
a good opponent, but I think Gary

467
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:23,839
Russell is ready to tangle with like
the tia Fimo lopezz of the world and

468
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,559
the Devin Haynes and the Ryan Garcias, and you know, pick your guy

469
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,359
at one forty who you like,
I mean, any of the top guys

470
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,319
he can definitely compete with. I
think Toyo is probably a little bit of

471
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,119
a notch below that. But it's
an important fight for both of these guys,

472
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,400
because for Playo, he just had
the one fight since he was suspended,

473
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,599
and he's not getting any favors by
having to fight Gary Antoine Russell in

474
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,480
that fight back. But I expect
Gary Antoine to shine in this fight.

475
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,519
Part of the reason for the layoff, I think was probably they were mourning

476
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:53,640
the death of their father, Gary
Sr. You know, who is just,

477
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,519
you know, the the pillar of
the of the boxing community in the

478
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,079
DC area and obviously of his family
and a trainer and all that, and

479
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,400
uh, you know that was not
easy for them to overcome. And now

480
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,319
Gary, uh, Gary Junior,
the former world champion has been training you

481
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:08,720
know, his younger brother. So
it's you know, it's a it's it's

482
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,720
always been a family affair with the
Russells. But when when the when the

483
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,200
bell rings, you know, Gary
Antoine is there to take care of business,

484
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640
and he's been flawless so far as
looked. There's not even one fight

485
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,759
you could look at in Gary's career
where you would say it was a little

486
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,839
shaky that night. He's been very
dominant and very impressive, even against you

487
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,240
know, a pretty solid group of
guys, even though not too active like

488
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,079
he has, you know, an
easy win over Rancis Partellom. He's a

489
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:34,720
former two division champion. You know, he knocked out Victor Postal in a

490
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:38,319
in a fairly dominating victory. Before
he got the knockout, he beat up

491
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,720
on Jovanni Santiago, who had a
lot of people thought gave Andrew and Bruner

492
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,759
lost and that Broner got the gift. So he's been fighting pretty good guys.

493
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,440
It's just he's been, you know, not fighting nearly as often as

494
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,119
we'd like to see these top guys
fight. And with Carlos a damas so.

495
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,960
By the way, right before I
came up to my room to hate

496
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,799
this with you, I ran into
Carlos and his team, uh in the

497
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000
in the you know, in the
walkway before or we got to the elevator.

498
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:04,880
Bacon, my old friend, uh
my boy, the Lormete, the

499
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,680
former contender is now part of the
Carlos A. Damas team. So we

500
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,319
stopped. And you know, I've
always had a friendly relationship with Thomas and

501
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,680
you know, we uh said alone
to each other. And you know,

502
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,920
I had met Carlos a couple of
times, but it's been a while.

503
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,200
He reintroduced us, and Carlos,
you know, had a big smile.

504
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,640
But he looks in phenomenal condition.
He's in a he's very happy that the

505
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:30,119
WBC finally did what they should have
done, is to elevate him when they

506
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,440
enshripped Charlot because Charlotte been holding that
belt hostage for three years. So he's

507
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:38,400
very pumped up for this fight.
And you know, Gashay good the amateur

508
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,599
olympian, Uh no knock and I'm
always willing to fight the best guys.

509
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:47,440
Good Chin has some losses but never
been knocked out. But uh really been

510
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,400
a natural one fifty four pounder coming
up. And Adam Adamas is a big,

511
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,599
strong, powerful puncher. You know, again, it's not an unreasonable

512
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:59,119
matchup. But if if it goes
the way it should Adamas, you know

513
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,599
it should should, I think Shine
Frankly in this kind of fight, and

514
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:04,240
and in the middleweight division that we've
talked about numerous times, it's not the

515
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,400
deepest in the world to make a
little bit of a statement say, you

516
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,480
know, I have the WBCNT away
title. I'm willing to fight the best

517
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,279
guys come and get me. I
think that's what he wants to let the

518
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:15,880
public know with this kind of performance
study. And he hoped to put it

519
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,559
on on Saturday Night. And again, I've been I've been an admirer of

520
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:23,000
his body work, his body punching
a Damas in his last couple of fights.

521
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,240
Let's see if that continues on Saturday
Night. And what I mean again,

522
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,440
he's been off for a year.
We've got several unanswered, you know,

523
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,839
questions about length of time off from
some of the fighters on this card,

524
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,279
and a Damas is one of those. Through no large part on his

525
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,480
own, he was waiting to see
do I get a chance to fight Jamal

526
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:45,599
Charlow or not, and that never
materialized obviously over the course of the last

527
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,599
year. All right, so he's
been itching, he's been itching to get

528
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,119
back in the ring. Now.
Shot this is some of the guys are

529
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:52,720
not like that. Damas is the
guy, it's like, let me fight.

530
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,440
Like he hasn't really made money.
It's not like he was making a

531
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,519
ton of money. Even when he
fought his last fight, he wasn't making

532
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,440
a million dollar. He was probably
making a couple hundred thousand, which is

533
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,599
you know, it's good for you
know, normal people, I guess,

534
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:06,920
but for a top professional boxer in
a world title fight, you know you'd

535
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,200
like to be a little more accivent
in padan And look, we all want

536
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,559
to make a couple hundred thousand dollars, but that's not going to last forever.

537
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,440
You want to make the bigger dough, the bigger bank, the bigger

538
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,960
bag, as the kids say these
days. You got to get back in

539
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,279
the ring. All right. We'll
get to the other fight cards in a

540
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:27,799
moment. Let's tell you more about
how to see this. Gervonte Davis main

541
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:31,400
event, David Benavidez co feature PPV
pay per view with our friends at PPV

542
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:37,160
dot com. Let's tell you more
about that right now. You know,

543
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,240
you know that if we've got a
big time pay per view, it's going

544
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:45,000
to be on PPV dot com.
Gervonte Davis getting back in the ring for

545
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,559
the first time since since last we
saw him dispatch Ryan Garcia. Oh,

546
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:52,640
by the way, David Benavitez in
the co feature very easily could be headlining

547
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,920
his own PPV. You're gonna get
both on PPV dot com. And as

548
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,880
always, I love to welcome in
here on our podcasts. Senior vice President

549
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:06,240
for Events and Programming with PPV dot
Com. Hello, Mark McCarty, Happy

550
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:12,119
summer, and we're back with another
big time Las Vegas boxingpayperview on PPV dot

551
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,000
Com. My friend CJ. It's
always exciting to come on, not just

552
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,880
because I get to talk to you, but because it means we have a

553
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,559
big event coming up, and we've
had a bunch of them lately. We

554
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440
got another one this weekend, so
we're pumped. You know. Let me

555
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:30,359
use my public school education. Canelo
pay perview definitely exciting in the fight with

556
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Heimimongia, the undisputed Usik fury definitely
exciting as well. So now here we

557
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,519
are with Gervonte Davis coming around also, and we also had Devin Haney,

558
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:49,160
Ryan Garcia. So for those that
somehow are saying that there's not interest,

559
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,400
there obviously is interest with the bigger
names in the sport fighting During fight season

560
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,559
and we know this. Yeah,
and I'm going to use my Catholic school

561
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,920
education to confirm what you just said, Jay and say, indeed, there

562
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:05,839
is a lot of excitement around the
sport, and I think it shows when

563
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,639
you put the big fighters against big
fighters and you make big fights, it's

564
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,360
going to get a lot of attention. In the last few months have been

565
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:19,360
a really good example of that.
You mentioned Tank coming back on Saturday night,

566
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,360
and he hasn't fought since last April, correct, and that was a

567
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,800
huge fight. We had a big
twenty twenty three in the sport of boxing.

568
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:35,159
So yeah, there'll always be the
naysayers about boxing being dead and whatnot,

569
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,440
but it's very much alive and thriving, no doubt. And for Javonte

570
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:43,199
Davis again, there's a lot of
intrigue because I mean, we've been talking

571
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,960
about this in the build up.
He hasn't fought. He's been in jail

572
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:52,159
previously for for over sixty days.
Now he's back, He's taken his time

573
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,280
get on the schedule. Here he
is in June, and this opponent,

574
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,039
Frank Martin the Ghost, is a
legit contender that can test him. So

575
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,960
there's a lot of intrigue coming up
on PPV dot Com Saturday night. Yeah.

576
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,599
Absolutely. You know, Martin's so
intriguing too, and he's played this

577
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,840
role of being the underdog, not
just in this fight, but in life.

578
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,760
He started boxing a little later than
most guys do. He really I

579
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,400
just work his way up. He's
not a household name. So the pressure

580
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,719
is really on Geronte Davis, not
just to win, but I think to

581
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,320
look good as well. Ring rust
is a real thing and it's been a

582
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,039
long time, so he's got to
shake that off. He's got to look

583
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,199
good and he's got to win.
So Frank Martin can go out there and

584
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,800
you know, he's got no pressure. He can take some chances and see

585
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,239
what happens. And it's the biggest
moment obviously for him. Davis has been

586
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,320
these big moments, but it's a
huge moment for him. Yep. And

587
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:49,559
as I alluded to, David Benavetez, who is the former WBC Super middleweight

588
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,519
champ on two occasions now moving up
to light heavyweight. This guy has been

589
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:57,199
a headliner. We've had you on
before on PPV dot Com. But he

590
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,800
realizes a couple of things. First
of Gervonte Davis brings a massive audience be

591
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,760
part of that pay per view,
and he and Benavitez believes he's got bigger

592
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,400
things ahead at light heavyweight where he's
moving up and this is the next step

593
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,880
in that against a former world champion
in Vodzick Alexander Vodzick. But this guy

594
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:22,159
is arguably as dangerous a fighter that
doesn't have a world title right now.

595
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,039
David Benavidez, would you agree with
that? I would. If there's anyone

596
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:29,320
in boxing who you would say he's
the real deal, David Benavitez is the

597
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,039
guy who would be the number one
name that I would mention the guy's legit.

598
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,800
You can see that there's a lot
of smoke around the concept of a

599
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:44,280
Canelo Benavidez fight, likely because Canelo
realizes Benavitez is the fact the real deal

600
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,960
and could pose a significant threat.
So listen, I think it's really smart

601
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,800
for Benavidez to be the comain on
this card. He's going to get a

602
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,159
lot of exposure. I think a
lot of people are going to see what

603
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:57,880
all the talk is about, and
it'll set him up nicely for whatever his

604
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,559
next big event is, which undoubtedly
will be a headliner, So so smart

605
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:05,760
business move, I think, and
again like with Jamonte, he's got to

606
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go and perform though, and benavide
Is obviously put it on Caleb Plan and

607
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,960
then demolished Demetrius Andred in a couple
of headlining situations. So we'll see what

608
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,679
he looks like at one hundred and
seventy five pounds. And I know we

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talk to you about this all the
time that we want the fans to plug

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show with PPV dot Com. Those
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They'll be interacting on fight Night on
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well, let me just sprinkle in
a little extra added bonus for this one

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too. So this fight is the
one hundredth boxing event at the MGM Grand

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Garden Arena. So talk about someone
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622
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Grand Garden Arena in Jim Lampley.
He's called countless. I shouldn't say countless

623
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because you can count it, but
you know, in this spur of the

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moment, I'm just gonna say countless
big events at the MGM Grand So all

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week he's going to be doing a
lot of reflecting on the biggest events that

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he called. He'll be chatting about
it on Saturday night with the fans.

627
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So it's a really good opportunity to
ask him about some of the biggest events

628
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that the sport has ever seen that
he has called in this building. So

629
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are really cool. I think you
know a way to tie all of this

630
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together. And I know Dan Rayfield
has already said this a couple of times

631
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,079
that out of the hundred I believe
he's tolded it up, it's either fifty

632
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five or fifty six of them that
Dan has been at of the first ninety

633
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nine and he's there again as part
of this. So you got a lot

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of that. But again back to
PPV dot Com, Jim and Lance and

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Dan are going to be interact throughout
the evening and it is It is a

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great feature for the fans to get
immediate insight and reaction from these guys while

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you're watching on PPV dot Com.
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think,

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like I said last time, the
response we've gotten from fans has been incredible

639
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,559
about having this opportunity to talk to
these experts during events. With each event

640
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we've been doing, you know,
largely because it's been successful, but I

641
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can come on here and talk about
it. We have more fans participating every

642
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single event, so it's catching on. It's I think, a really cool

643
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way to watch and this Saturday night
will be no different. Love it so

644
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one more time. Gervonte Davis headlines
and his return in twenty twenty four here

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a couple of other title fights as
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Come on Saturday Night by the Fight. Promoters often get criticized for not putting

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together good cards. It's all about
the main event. This happens to be

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one of those events where that's really
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652
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a good a good value. You're
going to get a lot of action,

653
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you get your chatting with Jim,
Lance and Dan, and it's going to

654
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be I think, a night with
a lot of fireworks. So we're looking

655
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forward to it should be a lot
of fun. We are definitely looking forward

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to whatever happens in the ring and
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dot Com. All right, so we've

663
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spent a ton of time previewing that
card, Rayfield, that's not all we

664
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,599
got World time fights in Puerto Rico. But wat how much would you pay

665
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now? We got title fights in
Puerto Rico, we got title fights in

666
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,039
England. Let's get to the Desonne
match Rooms show in Puerto Rico. It's

667
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:15,360
been anticipated for a bit here,
Suprial Mattias in his home country fighting the

668
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:22,960
Australian Liam Parro IVF Junior welterweight title
defense. Big things potentially ahead from Attias

669
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:27,719
after this fight, but he can't
look past Parro, Who's got some skill,

670
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,239
got some punch. I actually saw
Liam Paro in person. You're impressed

671
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,079
when I get a chance. Oh
well, on location to see fighters.

672
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,719
I saw him on the Jake Paul
undercard with Tyron Woodley the rematch in Tampa.

673
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:44,760
Paro fought on that undercard December of
twenty twenty one. So he's an

674
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,639
unbeaten Australian. I don't know how
much of a threat he's gonna be,

675
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:52,239
but this is a main event in
Puerto Rico, where obviously decided home country

676
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,840
advantage from Attias. Anything he does, they're going to be roaring for him.

677
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,119
Thoughts on this day and Saturday night. Sabril, Mattias parted ways with

678
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:05,239
PBC and he signed with matt From
Boxing, a co promotion along with his

679
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,719
you know, his p Puerto Rican
promoter at Fresh Promotions. The plan was

680
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,480
the first fight is going to be
a hometown fight. He hadn't fought in

681
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,039
Puerto Rico for a few years,
certainly not in a world title fight,

682
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,000
so he really wanted to go back
and have a fight in front of his

683
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:22,599
people, which is getting the opportunity
in this fight. And they were looking

684
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:25,559
for opponents and Paro, you know, not a lot of guys call Nobody

685
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:29,519
calls out Sirbril Mattias for a lot
of reasons. You know, a lot

686
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,360
of people consider him like the boogeyman
in the one hundred and forty pound way

687
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,840
class. But to Liam Paro's credit, he's like, look, I want

688
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,000
to win a world title. So
if I got to go to his hometown,

689
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,760
which is what he's doing, so
be it. So I admire that

690
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,639
aspect of Liam Paro. He's not
a big puncher, so he's probably gonna

691
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:46,000
have to use some boxing skills in
terms of to try to win the fight.

692
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,039
And if you've watched Sabril Matias,
you know he's a stone call look

693
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:52,559
assassin. I mean, he's a
guy that just goes in there to direct

694
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,760
the opponents, and you know,
when he was talking about the fight that's

695
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,239
coming up with Parro, his perspective
is he wants to be reckoned as the

696
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,400
number one ju were wealth the right
in the world now, titles aside.

697
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:07,320
Some people might make that argument that
they might man him ahead of Tafimo Lopez.

698
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,039
I don't personally do that because I
think Tfmo's got the better wins.

699
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,679
But he's certainly a big time puncher. He's got twenty wins, he's all

700
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,079
all his wins are by knockedout,
just the one loss. And in the

701
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:21,280
comments he was making leading up to
the fight this week, he was talking

702
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,360
about I don't just want to knock
w Liam Paro out, I want him

703
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,679
to suffer. You don't hear fighters
say that. That was sort of like

704
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,239
that kind of freaked me out,
And I have to be honest with you.

705
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,039
It's one thing for a fighter to
say that, a fighter like Sirbill

706
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,880
Mattias, who was in the ring
and whose opponent died from his fists in

707
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,480
twenty nineteen when he knocked out Maxim
Dadaschev, it was a little surprising to

708
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,039
hear me or to hear him say
that, I want my opponent to suffer.

709
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,960
Kind of underve me a little bit, but that's the mentality the fighter

710
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,000
he was talking about. In the
context of how and why he said that,

711
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:57,119
he was talking about how when I'm
in training camp, I feel like

712
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,119
I'm a caged animal, and you
know, I want to just get in

713
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:01,840
there and I want to destroy my
opponent and fight and you know, knock

714
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,079
him out and make him suffer.
So I think there was a little motion

715
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,559
of like I've been I've been locked
away doing a rough, rough, tough

716
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,519
training camp for the last you know, month and a half or two months,

717
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:14,400
so you know, I'll cut him
all a slack on that. But

718
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,119
he's going in the ring to do
damage. And when doesn't Sibril Matias go

719
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:19,079
in the ring to do damage,
and his boxing fans, that's one of

720
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:21,519
the reasons would like to watch him, because he goes in there not just

721
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,559
to the data and try to win. He goes in there to get the

722
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:27,039
knockout and to do damage. And
he made the other point in one of

723
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:30,639
his comments that I know I might
have to take some damage also, and

724
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,199
he's willing to do that as long
as he can lay on his fist to

725
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,760
dish out his own and you know
what, if you get into a punch

726
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,360
out with sybril Matias. I'm picking
him against ane hundred and forty pound in

727
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:45,000
the world because he can take a
shot, I think decently. But there's

728
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,320
not a lot of guys you're gonna
stand up to the to the flush shot

729
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,599
from this man. He's a devastating
puncher. Just go back and look at

730
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,480
any of his fights. This is
going to be a second defense. He

731
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,320
did it when he fought Harkaschef,
he did it against Ponse when he won

732
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,840
the title. He did it against
an Non you know, when he avenged

733
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000
a one loss. I mean,
he's he's a here puncher, and that's

734
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,599
what makes him exciting. He goes
there to rumble and I'm sure he's gonna

735
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,559
have a big hometown crowd rooting for
him. But I give I admire Paros,

736
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,599
you know, is his desire to
try to get a title on it.

737
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:12,440
Like you said, if he's got
to walk into the Lions, then

738
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,760
to do it, He's ready and
willing to do it. So I'm I'm

739
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,159
actually pretty interested to see this fight. I got to figure out the timing

740
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:20,239
of how I can if I can
watch it live. I'll be in the

741
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,119
arena for the card on you know, Saturday, that's here at the MGM.

742
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,400
At the very least, I'll see
it in a short delay. But

743
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:29,440
I wish they weren't all conflicting,
but it it is what it is.

744
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:36,000
And in Mattias's case, his last
fight was last November, which was the

745
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:40,840
knockout of Ergashev, and he had
won the title the previous February in beating

746
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,880
Ponce for the vacant belt. So
this is third fight really in about a

747
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,920
year and a half for him,
but he expects to be busier, maybe

748
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,559
even by the end of the year
if he's victorious here, and let's see

749
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,679
if it's spectacular against Parro in that
one again, that is Saturday night in

750
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:00,239
Puerto Rico on his own coming for
that. All right, we're not done

751
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,519
yet though, but you said that
they're talking about like what might be next

752
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:07,360
for him. I think there's a
reasonable chance that if he wins and looks

753
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,039
pretty good. Number one, you
know, Devin Haney still in the HOUN.

754
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,519
We'll see what happens with his belt. He's got a purse bid coming

755
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,519
up for the fight with Sander Martin
maybe and I don't know anything about this

756
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,800
in terms of like back, you
know, behind the scenes things. But

757
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,159
I don't know if he has the
appetite to do a Sander Martin fight,

758
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:29,920
which is probably not worth a lot. But they're both you know, Mattias

759
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,039
is promoted by Mattum. Devin Haney
may not have a long term contract,

760
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:36,480
that'sal but he certainly works with Eddie
and they have a good business relationship.

761
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,480
I could kind of see a case
perhaps if that was a fight that was

762
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:45,039
interesting to Haney where maybe he just
doesn't continue to hold the WBC title and

763
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:47,960
he simply challenges but he is the
IDF title. That would be one possible

764
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,960
scenario. And then the other one, of course, is that Regis Program

765
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:53,559
is gonna want to come back,
and he's with mattrom boxing also, and

766
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,400
I know he looked terrible in the
last fight when he thought Haney different kind

767
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,880
of style, I think a much
better fight in terms of the entertainment value

768
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,639
for sure. Could you imagine Program
against Sabrill Matias. I think that's a

769
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,440
possible fight. Also, then again, we thought pro Gray was going to

770
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:10,960
do something with Devin Haney and he
did nothing in that. I don't know,

771
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,079
I don't know what the marketability is
there. But first things first,

772
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:17,400
Mattia's got to take care of business
Satday night in Puerto Rico. Now earlier

773
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,920
in the day, US time in
the Boxer Promotions show. It will be

774
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:28,679
part of Sky Sports in London and
on Peacock, the streaming app in the

775
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,400
US. Chris Billum Smith one of
my kind of current championship favorites, kind

776
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,239
of the hard way up, not
given a lot of credit, doesn't have

777
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,360
tremendous skill, but has a lot
of hard has a good punch. He

778
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,119
defends the WBO Cruiserweight title against Richard
Riakapore, as we said earlier in the

779
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:52,880
show, and Riakapore owns a win
over Bill Smith previously. Now he challenges

780
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,039
Bill Smith for his title. So
give me a little more in the preview

781
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:59,320
mode on that one earlier in the
day. Yeah, this is a mandatory

782
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,519
fight, so they don't really a
choice to do this fight. They are

783
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:05,320
friendly with each other, Bill and
Smith and Richard are but if you go

784
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,039
back to twenty nineteen, now,
this was a time when they were simply

785
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:09,599
guys on the rise of you know, Richard at that time was like nine

786
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:13,800
to zero. They were fighting on
an undercard of a bigger fight at the

787
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,559
O two Arena for a like just
a regional belt and a ten rounder and

788
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,119
Riekopoy won a ten round split decision. But he's but nobody really argued that

789
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:23,760
because he's the guy that got that
knocked and he dropped Bylan Smith in round

790
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,159
seven and he ended up winning.
You know, it was the cards were

791
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,239
kind of weird, but he won
on two of the cards and so they've

792
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,679
both gone on their merry way since
then. And Rik Kopore has looked good

793
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,679
in his fight since that. He's
been knocking a lot of guys out,

794
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,360
very strong, always in tremendous condition. It looks like a like a freaking

795
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,400
beast in the ring, muscular and
just in tremendous shape and a good puncher.

796
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,239
So he finally gets this opportunity and
Billim Smith he kind of, like

797
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,840
you said, he kind of came
up the hard way. He won the

798
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,119
title back in twenty twenty three in
a very impressive performance. It was a

799
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:00,320
majority decision, but it was in
front of his raucous hometown Harry in Bournemouth,

800
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:04,559
England. We beat Lawrence O Coley
to win the title. But in

801
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,760
the next fight that was in December. He got the eighth a knockout against

802
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,599
Masterneck. But it was a very
rough, tough fight. I mean he

803
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:14,800
took some damage in that fight.
He got a rib injury. This fight

804
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,119
against Ria Kopori was supposed to be
a couple of months ago, but they

805
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:21,159
ended up having a delay it because
of the fact that he was still getting

806
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:23,119
you know, healed up from those
injuries, the niggles and some of the

807
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:25,920
other stuff that happened in that fight. Head cut, had a bad cut

808
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,320
over the eye too, had to
heal right. Yeah, so it took

809
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,400
a little time to get this fight
schedule, but now it's on it.

810
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:35,519
You know, in terms of the
cruiserweight division, in terms of British boxing,

811
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:37,880
this is like a marquee matchup.
This is a fight that he's going

812
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,760
to have a great crowd. They're
doing this at the football ground at a

813
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,719
Crystal Palace they call it in London, so it's sort of like a you

814
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,760
know, a non traditional boxing venue. Uh. You know, when they

815
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,079
try to bring some of these bigger
fights there and do them in these like

816
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,119
soccer stadiums and that type of thing, and they're gonna be there's a tremendous

817
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:57,840
crowd there. And the thing is
they're not doing it in Bill You know,

818
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,480
Bill Smith has been like the home
he's got, like the fortress.

819
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,239
You know, when people go up
to that area in the northern part of

820
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,039
the country and they hold his fights
there, you know it's the fortress he

821
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:08,519
you know, his crowd goes absolutely
wild. But I give Bill Smith critty.

822
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:12,480
He's going to do this fight in
London, which is where Rio Ko

823
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:14,880
Pore is from. It's his home
down now. I'm sure some of Bill

824
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:17,719
Smith's fans are making the trek down
to London for this fight, but you

825
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,480
know the other guy's going to have
his fans also. Just a good matchup

826
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:23,840
and the winner of this fight is
get a much bigger fight. The cruiserweight

827
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,239
division is a lot of action right
now. With Opatai has been in some

828
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,000
good fights. He's been prominent on
the Saudi cards as the number one guy

829
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
in the weight class. But there's
a lot of fun, exciting fights that

830
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,119
you can make in this weight class. And it wouldn't shock me if they

831
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,119
If these guys put on a great
match and it turns out to be a

832
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:42,800
really exciting fight, maybe it's super
competitive. Why not have a trilogy between

833
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,639
these two guys and Zerto Ramirez also
has one of the belts, if I'm

834
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:50,320
not mistaken on that at the cruise
aways. Let's see Billim Smith again.

835
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,599
We know a couple of things.
He's gonna try to land and he's gonna

836
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:59,440
get hit again. Not the most
skilled tough nose can punch some Let's see

837
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,440
what it looks like Saturday afternoon.
It will not be dull. Let's put

838
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,119
it that way. I don't You're
not going to see two guys that don't

839
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,800
hit each other and put on a
boring fight. That's me saying that for

840
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,920
Saturday after I agree with you.
I mean that to me would be the

841
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,239
biggest upset of the weekend. If
Philla Smith and Riga Party is a boring

842
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,920
fight, that would be a little
surprising. Yep, all right, So

843
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,960
again Peacock streams it in the US
sky Sports in the UK. I know

844
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:22,559
we got a lot of fans that
listen to us all over the place to

845
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:28,800
be able to find that one earlier
in the day Saturday US time Primetime in

846
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:34,320
England. And then obviously we roll
into the Dezone show from Matchroom in Puerto

847
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,440
Rico kind of going on while the
pay per view from PBC and Amazon is

848
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,039
going on in Las Vegas, then
much later in the night there as well.

849
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:45,199
All Right, so we've set the
table more than sufficiently for all the

850
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:47,239
preview mode. Let's get to some
news and then I want to get to

851
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,199
your nostalgia and all these great fights
that you've been to at the MGM Grand

852
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,519
Garden Arena where you are right now. Lo and behold, we do have

853
00:51:55,559 --> 00:52:00,960
an opponent for Boots ns can I
say on the Big Fight weekend? I

854
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:05,840
was not expecting a mega fight,
but this with David Avanzian, who's the

855
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,519
guy that Terrence Clawford dispatched back in
what December of twenty twenty two, This

856
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:13,079
doesn't do a whole lot for me. I know, they had to find

857
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:15,400
a guy for him. They found
a guy for him. Pick it up

858
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,880
on that they found a guy for
him, TJ. They found a guy

859
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,199
for him. What can I say? I mean, listen, the one

860
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:25,280
thing about David avanasty Look, he's
a quality professional, he'll try. He's

861
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,679
not a bad fighter. I don't
know if he's at the same level as

862
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,000
bout Tennis, but I don't know. I don't think Cody Crowley was at

863
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,440
the same level, So to me, there's not that much of a difference.

864
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,960
In my mind, David Evanesting and
Cody Crowley have totally different kinds of

865
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,599
styles the way they fight it,
but I think they're kind of at a

866
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:44,039
similar level. They're both good professionals. They both maybe beat some guys on

867
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:46,199
a given day, but against the
very best, they're life them up short.

868
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:49,840
And I think Evanesting is in that
same situation. So, as you

869
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,320
said, they had to get a
guy. Now he's got some accomplishment.

870
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,599
He made a name for himself when
he retired Shane Moseley back a few years

871
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:59,519
several years ago, he did get
knocked out by Terrence Crawford, but there's

872
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,039
no shame in that. Terrence Crawford
was you know, you know, he's

873
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:06,039
at the top of his game.
He's just a bruising, skilled and powerful

874
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:07,599
puncher. And know a lot of
people think he's the number one fighter in

875
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:12,320
the world pound four pounds. So
it is what it is. I'm glad

876
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,280
they found an opponent that's at least
a reputable opponent that they don't have to,

877
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:16,280
you know, blow up the date, which I don't think they were

878
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,280
going to do. There's still more
than enough time for everybody to be ready

879
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,840
for July thirteenth, and hopefully they
put on a good show. But of

880
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,679
course, anybody that was expecting anything
less than a Boots victory against Crowley,

881
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,360
it should be the same against Evan
Astein, you'd think, but they got

882
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,800
to fight to fight. I'll say
one thing, Avan Asking is definitely a

883
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,920
better puncher than Cody Crowley is.
So if there's that if you can land

884
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,840
something solid on Boots tennis, maybe
you can do a little more damage than

885
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,559
it would seem to me that it
would happen if it was Cody Crowley landing

886
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:45,320
a punch. I still feel bad
that probably was bounced from the fight because

887
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,079
of his injury, that the eye
problem. You know, doe to make

888
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,400
your biggest payday, get a chance
at the world title and have that just

889
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,360
sort of ripped away from you as
an unfortunate situation. But you know,

890
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:58,000
for all the misery that that Cody's
going through because of that, you know

891
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:00,639
it's a happy day for Avansting because
he's getting another out of the world title.

892
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:01,800
He's gonna make probably a good purse
for the fight, and he'll go

893
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,320
in there and give a great effort. All right, that's coming in July.

894
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,159
You also have been doing I've been
reading my Dan Raphael Substack. You've

895
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:14,840
been doing some reporting this week about
the Anthony Joshua card. Not not fully

896
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,480
set, but you've got some names
in particular on the undercard for September twenty

897
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,719
first. What are you hearing Tell
the audience here on the pod what you're

898
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,599
hearing about September twenty one. So
September twenty first, no secret, that's

899
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:31,119
going to be the second read season
event outside of Saudi Arabia, the first

900
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:35,480
one being August third, the Terrence
Crawford Najamov card that's going to be in

901
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:37,840
Los Angeles. That's very stacked.
That's already been announced. The next card

902
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:43,159
they're doing is September twenty first at
Wembley Stadium in London, and it's they

903
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:46,079
haven't made an official but everybody knows
it's gonna be Anthony Joshua. Joshua himself

904
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:50,320
said on the broadcast of the Five
on five, I'm getting ready for September

905
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,119
twenty first, and the lightly opponent
is going to be Daniel Duba, who

906
00:54:54,159 --> 00:55:00,000
defeated Philip Perginvich to win the IBF
interim title in that on that undercard,

907
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,880
there was already a deal done that
if it was Hergivic that was the winner,

908
00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:06,760
that he was going to be the
Joshua opponent. It's actually a bigger

909
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,719
fight in Britain that he's fighting the
way if that's the fight that gets finalized,

910
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:14,320
because they're both Brits. By the
time the fight comes around in September,

911
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,000
Usik will have been either stripped or
vacated by the IBF. I know

912
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,360
they gave him time to keep it, but by the time September happens,

913
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,920
you know that title was gonna go
to Duba. It'll be'll be elevated unless

914
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:30,559
something absolutely ridiculous happens, So it
will be Joshua challenging for the IBF title

915
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,639
against Duba, who will be elevated
to the full title holder. And then

916
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,400
you have as the Saudi's doing.
This is one of the reasons why they've

917
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,159
been good for boxing thus far is
because they put on tremendously deep undercards and

918
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,760
again, none of these fights are
done. This is just what I've been

919
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,000
told and heard from a different group
of different people that know sort of what's

920
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:52,280
going on that and some of them
may happen and some of they may not.

921
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,320
But as again, it's a work
in progress. But you'll probably see

922
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,000
the return of the cruiserweight champ Jai
Opataia. I'm not sure who the opponent

923
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,559
would be. They one half Hamasus
Sharras on that card, who's coming off

924
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:05,760
the big win against Amma Williams on
the five on five card. There's been

925
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,719
a lot of conversation that maybe you'll
fight Chris Ubank Junior, who is a

926
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,760
free agent. He's no longer with
Wasserman Boxing. My understanding is whatever overtures

927
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,440
they made the Chris u Bank,
he has turned them down, apparently not

928
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,000
happy with the financial situation. But
we'll see if they can make that right

929
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:21,480
and have that fight happen. If
it does, that's obviously a pretty big

930
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,039
fight. You know, we talk
about the lack of middleweight names. U

931
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:27,679
Bank is one of the better names
in the division, and Sharaz is one

932
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:30,960
of the top young guys on the
rise. They're talking about doing a fight

933
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,960
and this is not wouldn't be a
shock to me at all. When Willie

934
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,800
Hutchinson defeated Craig Richard on the five
on five card, he then got the

935
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:44,079
opportunity to become the mandatory to fight
Joshua Blatzi for the interim light heavyweight Telly

936
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:47,800
because better bms that with the injury
that was because Anthony Yard he dropped out

937
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,840
of that because he's in an illegal
contracts dispute with Frank Warren. So the

938
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:57,639
the WBO approved Blatzi against Hutchinson for
that interim title and ordered them to negotiate.

939
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,000
Could go to a purse, but
there's probably be a very solid and

940
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:04,679
strong chance that that fight could wind
up on this card and then they would

941
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,159
not have to bother with a purse
bit. And then also if you remember

942
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:10,000
from a few months ago, we
saw that outstanding British heavyweight fight between Fabio

943
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:15,280
Wardley and Fraser Clark that ended in
a draw, tremendous battle. There's a

944
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,400
lot of conversation, uh from that
March original fight that they'll have the rematch

945
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,280
on this undercard. Also, they're
talking about possibly a Liam Smith fight coming

946
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,639
back off of his uh, you
know, his uh writing, you know,

947
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:30,760
getting the revenge when he won the
fight that he had. So again,

948
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,880
I don't know if all these fights
are gonna come to pass and all

949
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,320
they're gonna get done. It's gonna
be fucking loaded. Those names that you

950
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:43,800
that you named, obviously we are
hardcore, but those are huge UK names,

951
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,519
you know, aside from Opataiah.
But there's a there's there's a list

952
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:49,599
there of UK names you just named
that if they're all on that show,

953
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,239
we've been seeing stacked undercards and so
that would be a good thing. On

954
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,079
the twenty first, stay tuned,
stay tuned for who the opponents are and

955
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:59,480
the details, and you gave us
a good list there. And if you've

956
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,760
been following the news, there's all
that conversation that the Saudi's are looking to

957
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,880
buy up these other promoters and and
create their league, and you know,

958
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,960
if that happens, I'm not Can
I just tell you I'm not on board

959
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:14,159
with that. Give me your initial
reaction that I'll give you mine. I'm

960
00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:15,199
not on board with that, and
I'll tell you why in a second.

961
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:19,320
But go ahead once you're read you're
not on board, Like you don't you

962
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,559
think it won't happen or you don't
want to. I don't want it to

963
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:25,119
happen because I think competition is a
great thing. I think having different promoters,

964
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:29,960
different outlets, different things is better
for the fighters. You put it

965
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,400
all under one umbrella where one,
you know, where one can dictate like

966
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,880
monopolistically. Wow, that's a big
word on the POD. I don't think

967
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,119
that's a good thing, so I'll
give you okay. So my take on

968
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:45,599
that is this, if it rates
in the manner which is essentially a monopoly

969
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:51,360
like the UFC, it's been good
for the fans for sure, because they

970
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,639
make all the they buy and I
don't watch, I don't watch, but

971
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,880
hold on a lot of the people
that I know that are involved in fight

972
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,000
and and watch and pay attention to
cover you see, tell me all the

973
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,039
time while we get all the best
fights all the time. Okay, fine,

974
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:07,079
but the fighters don't get paid the
way they should get, right.

975
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:09,079
So why do you think Nagan who
wanted a box? Why do you think

976
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:14,119
Connor McGregor wanted a box? Why
do you think Nate Diaz and Masbadal?

977
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:15,199
Why are they come in the boxing? Because they want to make the bag.

978
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:19,320
They want to make the bigger money. Now, the saudis the way

979
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,280
they pay. They're very generous and
they take care times that are involved in

980
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,480
the events. They paid the golfers
three hundred million dollars to go and leave

981
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,000
the PGA to go to liv Golf, so they take care of the guys

982
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,000
financially. So my point here is
this, First of all, we don't

983
00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:35,519
know all the details. We got
the devil's always in the details. When

984
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:38,280
we find out more specifically, I
would have a better way to say what

985
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,159
I think is good or what I
think is bad. But here's the scenario.

986
00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:45,920
If they do buy up these entities
and create this super league, and

987
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,960
they're able to make the kinds of
fights the way UFC makes their fights and

988
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,400
the way frankly the Saudis have been
doing on these undercars, the five on

989
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:58,880
five and the Joshua nagan who went
Tyson Ferry Usk and obviously the the the

990
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,920
original one which was Fear versus Naganu. They've made a tremendous amount of top

991
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,639
notch cards. All you gotta do
is look at the August card, look

992
01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:08,400
at the types of fights are trying
to do for the card on September twenty.

993
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,760
First, if they're doing those types
of fights and they continue to pay

994
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,719
the fighters what they should make,
I can't really argue with that. But

995
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,280
if it's a UFC situation and there's
gonna be constant back and forth where the

996
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,440
fighters not being paid the way they
should be, and there's no other entity

997
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,039
for them to really go to to
make that kind of money, then I

998
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:29,880
would have a problem with it.
But I think the way the Saudi has

999
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,159
been handling their boxing has been top
not so far. If you ask anybody

1000
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:36,320
that's been involved, they don't mess
around with the money. You say,

1001
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,039
if we tell you're getting this,
they live up to and the money's in

1002
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:42,039
the bank, no problem. So
from that perspective, I think it could

1003
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,599
be a great thing, and it
could definitely be a humongous benefit for the

1004
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:49,960
sport. But I'll I hope it. If it does come to pass,

1005
01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,960
I hope it's in the right way. I'll reserve judgment, but it sounds

1006
01:00:53,000 --> 01:01:00,239
good at least cursory. We'll see
there's nothing there's Look, everybody lose is

1007
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,039
in monopoly situations. That's the reason
why in our government, in our world,

1008
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,360
in the capitalistic world that we're in, they don't allow it to happen.

1009
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,840
So we could go for another ten
or fifteen minutes. It would be

1010
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,079
better for the different promotions to remain
somewhat independent, be able to do their

1011
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:17,679
own deals, and then when the
Saudis want to put a show on,

1012
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:23,920
bring your fire that would be better. So and who knows. The theory

1013
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:29,000
being out there is only the first
step. That doesn't mean that any of

1014
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,079
this is actually going to be reality
on them buying everything up. It's just

1015
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:35,760
a theory, all right. Other
news, real quick, Canelo Alvarez.

1016
01:01:36,239 --> 01:01:38,239
I keep saying, brother Rayphiel,
this is on the rundown. He's not

1017
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,440
fighting this guy, William Skull.
So the IBF has now postponed the purse

1018
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:49,719
bid again early next week. June
eighteenth is now the rescheduled first bid.

1019
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,320
Do you have any more there in
Vegas on what's going on here? Is

1020
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,480
it a step aside? What do
we think? They've postponed it twice now.

1021
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:02,480
Keep saying he's not fighting it.
And while I don't necessarily disagree with

1022
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:07,559
you, what I do what I
do disagree with is I would not say

1023
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:13,039
unequivocally he's not fighting William Skull.
I think I've been famously wrong a bunch

1024
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:15,360
on this podcast. Let me be
famously wrong again. I've been wrong.

1025
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,039
Also, I'm just saying I don't
think it's an absolute that he's not fighting

1026
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:23,320
the guy. I don't think he
is. I hope he isn't, but

1027
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,400
it's not impossible. And I've outlined
the scenario previously where I thought it was

1028
01:02:28,639 --> 01:02:30,320
possible, and this Saud he's going
to be involved with that. But you

1029
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,760
don't normally see a purse bid postponed
two times, especially within the IBF,

1030
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:39,639
unless something else is afoot. Canello
clearly doesn't want to vacate the title.

1031
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:44,840
He wants to keep the belts intact. Some people say that's stupid, what's

1032
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,280
sarto accomplished, you've done it,
whatever, But the athlete never wants to

1033
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,360
give up the belt. He likes
being called undisputed. That's just a fact.

1034
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,679
And he's made enough fuck you money
where he doesn't have to worry about

1035
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,320
if he's going to take a little
bit less here or there, if he

1036
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,119
wants to pay the sanctity that his
business. So I think they're trying to

1037
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:05,280
figure out a way either a to
how can we make the fight happen under

1038
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,599
a reasonable scenario, or like you
said, maybe they're going to do some

1039
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:13,280
kind of step aside. Is it
may more likely? Isn't it more likely

1040
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,440
that they're working out whatever the step
aside is? And like you theorize before.

1041
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:22,599
Okay, let's say he's fighting in
September against whomever Canelo. That skull

1042
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,880
is on that card getting a payday
in addition to that, however, they

1043
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,159
can work it out. Isn't that
the more likely route we're headed here and

1044
01:03:29,199 --> 01:03:32,559
why this has been delayed? I
think that's probably more likely, But it

1045
01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:36,480
doesn't mean that the other scenario was
not possible, so that he would fight

1046
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,159
him again, I kind of doubt
it. Also, I just would not

1047
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,840
say you never say never, I
guess is the point. So again,

1048
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,639
it's just unusual for there to be
two postponents. Let me let me give

1049
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:49,880
you a cross sport example. For
the last week, there was all this

1050
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,719
talk that Danny Hurley, the Yukon
basketball coach, and you're a basketball college

1051
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,960
basketball fan like I am, was
going to leave and coach the LA Lakers

1052
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,880
and Lebron James on that whole circus
where they go through coaches like underwear right

1053
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,679
now out in Los Angeles. And
I said on the record over and over

1054
01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:10,920
again, it's not happening. Zero
percent chance you can have all this hype.

1055
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,159
He went out there and met with
him Hurley. I know this is

1056
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:16,199
a boxing podcast but it's a similar
analogy of he made it up here that

1057
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,599
he was interested. He's flattered there. I kept saying, it's not happening.

1058
01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:24,440
He's not leaving that situation. Well, I mean, in that case,

1059
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,760
the amount of money that the Lakers
offered him was not that much greater

1060
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,679
than what he makes the Conneticut compared
to what the understand. But I don't.

1061
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:31,599
I don't think even if they had
offered him more, I think he

1062
01:04:31,639 --> 01:04:35,679
wants to be in college basket.
So from my standpoint, similar in this

1063
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,280
different sport, Canelo has no interest
in fighting that guy. It's not a

1064
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,119
it's not a you like to say
all the time, not a commercially viable

1065
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:45,679
fight. From a historical perspective,
it means nothing. They'll work something else

1066
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:49,199
out right. But the thing is, I agree with you about the viability,

1067
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:51,760
But he's trying to figure out,
I believe this to be the case,

1068
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:57,599
how can I maintain my delta?
All right, Well, let's put

1069
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,480
heym bottom line is they stripped him
before, and that's what he knows.

1070
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:04,000
They stripped him with the IBM belt, which we've talked about, So sate

1071
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:08,400
the bottom here is the IBF those
I mean, I look, I don't

1072
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,400
I don't hate on the IBA from
the standpoint of they follow the rules and

1073
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,920
the folks that work there, I
know them, I like them. Darryl

1074
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,880
Peeples is an honorable guy. I've
got nothing bad to say about them,

1075
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,880
but their rules suck. They got
to take some things. They're terrible.

1076
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:24,719
And the fact that William fucking Skull
is the number of mandatory challenges that you're

1077
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,599
telling me. If Canelo Alvarez doesn't
fight this dude that no one ever fucking

1078
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,519
heard of that's got no wins of
consequence on his record, we're gonna shrip

1079
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:34,920
the undisputed champ who's the biggest star
in boxing because of that. Give me

1080
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,440
a fucking break. Figure it the
fuck out. Make him fight somebody before

1081
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,239
you honor him with the mandatory spot
and you call it due. I hate

1082
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,400
the way that they conduct their rankings. That's why you listen over, That's

1083
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,760
why you listen to the podcasts here
the big fight we can't preview in the

1084
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,159
fight freaks your night. You get
it. You get Raphael F. Bauming

1085
01:05:54,199 --> 01:05:56,639
away because he's grouchy, because he's
been working all day and he wants some

1086
01:05:56,679 --> 01:06:01,159
dinner. I'm not grouty in facts
and you're pewing good opinion and I like

1087
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:05,559
that. We're almost done with the
news than the nostalgia. One more item,

1088
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:15,360
and that is interesting trainer change for
Jared real big Baby Anderson as he

1089
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,639
gets ready to fight upcoming Martin Bucoley
on that August third card in Los Angeles.

1090
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,960
And the name is a very familiar
name, Dan Rayfield, you were

1091
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,480
reporting it on your substack this week. Give us more about the new trainer

1092
01:06:29,519 --> 01:06:31,880
for Jared Anderson and how it ties
in well, He's now going to be

1093
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,199
head trained by sugar Hill Stewart,
of course, the nephew of the great

1094
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:40,920
Emmanuel Stewart, who is also the
trainer sugar Hill is of Tyson Fury.

1095
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:45,199
Sugar Hill is obviously familiar with Jared
Anderson because Jared Anderson has been a part

1096
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:48,719
of past Tyson Fury training camps under
Steward where he sparred with Tyson Fury.

1097
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,800
So he's already familiar with Jared Anderson. But the interesting thing in terms of

1098
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,519
the way that the parent came about
was because there was Turkey Alschk who posted

1099
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,400
on social media that he was going
to be trained with sugar Hill Stewart and

1100
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,760
that it was him that gave him, you know, the brought it up

1101
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,840
with him, And I don't know
if I can't say he convinced him or

1102
01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:10,320
told him to do it or whatever, but clearly gave him the suggestion,

1103
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,639
and I guess Jared Anderson took him
up on that. And now he'll be

1104
01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:16,960
working with sugar Hill now. His
original trainer who's been with Jared Anderson from

1105
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:21,280
day one is a trainer n in
Darry Riley. My understanding is that Riley's

1106
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,280
gonna stay part of the team,
but they're bringing in sugar Hill, and

1107
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,440
if you bring in tugar Hill,
he's not taking a back seat. So

1108
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:33,159
Riley I feel as like a similar
scenario with Dean Wilder who brought in you

1109
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:35,840
know, Malik Scott to be his
head trainer. But Jayd's who'd been his

1110
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,480
trainer from day one, has always
been part of the team, still part

1111
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,480
of the team to this day.
So to me, that's the kid the

1112
01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:45,119
situation that'll be sugar Hill will run
things, but Riley is a guy will

1113
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:50,800
still be part of the team.
Interesting and again that's coming for August and

1114
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,760
it's a big moment obviously for Jared
Anderson, And that's a that's an interesting

1115
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,320
move to make to that guy,
because I correct me if I'm wrong.

1116
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,280
Wasn't he sparring at one point with
Tyson Fury? And sugar Hill may or

1117
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,159
may not have been part of the
camp at that point. I think he

1118
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:13,000
came later, but it's sugar Hill
was definitely Tyson Fury's trainer at least at

1119
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,320
one of the points when they sparked. How about that? So there's a

1120
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,279
connection there too. That's what I
said. He saw him in the camp

1121
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:21,239
and sure knew what kind of talent
he had. And remember Fury has always

1122
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:26,359
at least given rave reviews to the
work that Jared Anderson gave to him when

1123
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:30,399
they did spart with each other.
Love that all right? One final piece

1124
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,720
here as we put this pod to
bed, and that is you currently reside,

1125
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,760
not permanently, but currently timporarily reside
at the MGM Grand right now getting

1126
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:44,640
ready for the Tank Davis David Benavidez
pay per view. And you've said it

1127
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,119
a couple of times on this podcast. It is the one hundredth Big Time

1128
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,239
Boxing event Slash pay per view that
will be in the MGM Grand Garden arena.

1129
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:56,880
You're totaling it up. Still,
what's the official number? What number

1130
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,840
is this for you? Is this
Demaggio or is this one beyond Amaggio for

1131
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,800
you? Fifty six game hitting straight
for Joe Demagio. Look it up,

1132
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,520
Ken, google it. What is
Joe for you? Joe did fifty six

1133
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,439
in a row. I haven't covered
my total in a row, but I

1134
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:15,279
have covered so Saturday Night will be
for me from since my first fight at

1135
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,720
this building, which was in January
of two thousand and one, which was

1136
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:24,399
the Floyd Mayweather Dio Carlis fight.
Will be my fifty six fight at the

1137
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,399
MGM Arena. Now, remember I
didn't cover any fights in this building from

1138
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,359
ninety four to two thousand because I
wasn't covering boxing from ninety four to ninety

1139
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:34,560
nine, and when I started on
boxing with USA Today in two thousand,

1140
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:39,800
my first Las Vegas events in that
year took place actually at the Mandalay Bay.

1141
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:44,479
MGM didn't have fights much into in
the in in that particular year in

1142
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,640
two thousand and so I didn't cover
my first mental January of oh one,

1143
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,439
so I missed the first You know, I wasn't covering boxes, so I

1144
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:55,039
didn't cover the first twenty seven events
in the building. So the way I

1145
01:09:55,079 --> 01:09:59,880
look at it is, I've covered
now fifty I've been eligible to cover seven

1146
01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:03,640
three of their fights. I've covered
now fifty six of them. But this

1147
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:08,560
is not about me, though.
This is about the amazing, just incredible,

1148
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:14,359
phenomenal boxing history that this building is. It's like a living, breathing

1149
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,880
monument to the sport of the last
thirty years. All the big stars,

1150
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,319
at least in America have fought there. There's been as many memorable fights as

1151
01:10:21,319 --> 01:10:25,439
you can imagine, the biggest fights
in the world, even if they were

1152
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,199
not great fights like maywether Pack Yell
for example, was here. Biggest money

1153
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:30,680
fight was Anti It wasn't a great
fight, obviously, but all the big

1154
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,279
names. I would submit to you
that as famous as some of the fights

1155
01:10:33,279 --> 01:10:39,279
we have seen in the eighties that
took place in the famed outdoor that they

1156
01:10:39,279 --> 01:10:44,560
would build temporarily the stadium at Caesars
Palace, that this is a more important

1157
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,199
building to boxing. Yes, Tommy
Hearns fought Sugar Ray Leonard at the Caesars

1158
01:10:47,279 --> 01:10:51,239
Palace outdoor arena. We had huge
fights there, Sugar Ray Leonard against Marvin

1159
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:56,520
Hagler and obviously Hagler versus Hearns and
Larry Holmes against Jerry Cooney and some Omega

1160
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,159
fights, but they were fewer in
number. The MGM Grand An Arena has

1161
01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:04,720
had fights that are megafights and touns
of them, way more than Caesar's Palace

1162
01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:10,560
in their heyday, I mean,
every single Here's the thing. The folks

1163
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:16,399
at the MGM commissioned a reflection piece, like a video piece about the history

1164
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,399
of this great building, and I
was interviewed for that piece. I got

1165
01:11:20,399 --> 01:11:25,079
a chance to watch nine minutes.
I was shown it today in the media

1166
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:28,840
center by one of the people that
worked on it, and I got goosebumps

1167
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,479
watching this thing because the history that's
been in this building is just phenomenon,

1168
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,159
and you know, it was a
privilege to be asked to be part of

1169
01:11:33,159 --> 01:11:36,279
it since I've covered so many fights
here. So they're gonna make the full

1170
01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:40,119
nine minute thing, what I was
told, because folks can check it out

1171
01:11:40,119 --> 01:11:43,800
on Prime Video. They're gonna play
about a two or three minute segment of

1172
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,279
that piece within the pay per view
on Saturday Night. But the highlights,

1173
01:11:47,319 --> 01:11:50,720
the number of superstars and big fights. I mean, I'll just run through

1174
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,920
a couple just off the top of
my head. I mean it started.

1175
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,520
The very first event here was the
first fight between Julio sayzar Chavaz and Frankie

1176
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,319
Randall. And the reason why that
became a historic fight is because not only

1177
01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:06,319
did Frankie Randall score the first ever
knockdout against julios A z ar Chabas,

1178
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:10,079
but I saw the highlight of in
the piece, and I got the chills

1179
01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:13,840
when I watched that is that he
handed Chavez his first loss. He was

1180
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,600
eighty nine going into that fight,
and Randall won the title, and they

1181
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,159
had the very famous rematch also in
this building, and that was just the

1182
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:26,640
start you had. George Foreman,
you know, a guy given no chance

1183
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,079
against Michael Moore, knocked him out
with one punch and had lost every second

1184
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:32,920
of every round, knocked him out
with one shot in the tenth round.

1185
01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:36,479
The famous Jim Lanthey called it happened. It happened, and he regained the

1186
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:41,840
heavyweight title twenty years almost to the
day after he got knocked out by by

1187
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,880
Mouhammad Ali INSI year, you go
through all the other greats, this was

1188
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,159
basically that in many ways the house
that Oscar de la Hoya belt. Had

1189
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:51,640
a huge amount of big time fights
here, you know, big big events.

1190
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,279
The Mayweather fight was here in this
building, which at the time was

1191
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:58,079
the biggest money fight in the history
boxing. They called it the Fight to

1192
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:01,000
save boxing. Just a mass a
massive event, and he had. He

1193
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:03,920
didn't win that fight, but he
had other huge fights here, you know,

1194
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:08,920
the great beatdown and just monumental explosion
in the crowd. I can still

1195
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,279
remember the crowd going freaking crazy when
he knocked out Ricardo on my or going

1196
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:15,159
to regain you know, a title
in the one to fifty four division.

1197
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,479
He had the Bernard Hopkins fight.
I mean, there's a ton of Oscard

1198
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,199
Alloy fights to you know. You
can just go on down the line.

1199
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,680
This was an era where Mayweather packed
out both out of your tons of times,

1200
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,800
Floyd, I think I got to
count it up. I believe he's

1201
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,640
got the record fifteen fights at my
Red. But so many of Floyd's biggest

1202
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,399
fights were here because the Tmobile Arena
wasn't yet a part of the landscape.

1203
01:13:34,399 --> 01:13:39,720
So he fought Canelo Alvarez here in
this building. He fought Nanny Pack out

1204
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,479
here in this building. He fought
the Maydonna fights here. He fought,

1205
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,880
you know, so many of his
big fights that that he was the moneyman

1206
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,520
of the time and nanny pack are
the same thing. You know. Many

1207
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,640
had some great wins here, but
he also suffered in my mind in terms

1208
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,840
of my own experience of being here. For me, the singlest memorable moment

1209
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,479
that I have ever witnessed in this
building was when he got knocked out face

1210
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,760
first in the fourth fight against one
Manuel marqu Yes. But there were some

1211
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,560
other extremely memorable fights. I mean
I mentioned Nabe, I didn't even mention

1212
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,640
they're one of the greatest events I
ever covered, which when he fought Ricky

1213
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,359
Hadden, uh, you know,
in the craziness of that fight weekend,

1214
01:14:14,359 --> 01:14:17,319
then he knocked out Ricky Hadden.
And then I mentioned too about Manny Paco

1215
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,199
getting knocked out by Marquez's being a
very memorable moment, maybe the most memorable

1216
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:25,239
moment for me. On the other
hand, as I say, you know,

1217
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:27,920
sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're
the bug. It was the other

1218
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,439
way around when it was Manny Paco
who absolutely obliterated Ricky Hadden in this building.

1219
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,640
I mean the history that this building. If I said, Tyson Holy

1220
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:41,199
Field and the most bizarre of endings
with the earbite MGM Grand Gardener Arena and

1221
01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:44,079
the first fight which he got knocked
out in the big upset. I didn't

1222
01:14:44,119 --> 01:14:46,079
cover either of those Tyson holy Fel
fights, but those are you know,

1223
01:14:46,359 --> 01:14:51,279
among I actually would say to you, all things considered, maybe the greatest

1224
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:56,439
fight slash event in the history of
the building might have been a vander Holyfield

1225
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,479
versus Mike Tyson number one for a
thousand different reasons. That was huge,

1226
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,079
and I mean, you know,
there's just so many big, big fights,

1227
01:15:04,079 --> 01:15:09,239
and everybody fought here. You know, Fury Wilder to the World Championship

1228
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:13,319
changed hands, the lineal title and
the WBC title were then unified, if

1229
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:15,840
you will, when Fury knocked out
Deontay in the second fight that took place

1230
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,920
in this building. You know,
Team Mobile has kind of taken over to

1231
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:25,640
some degree because it's a larger facility. It is partially owned by MGM Resorts,

1232
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:30,039
so it's this is still the fight
host hotel when the when the fights

1233
01:15:30,039 --> 01:15:32,680
take place at the Team Mobile.
But it's good that they still have important

1234
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:38,079
fights in the building, like this
fight coming up on Saturday with Tank Davis

1235
01:15:38,119 --> 01:15:42,319
against Frank Martin Benevitez against Bozick.
But then the number of big time fights

1236
01:15:42,319 --> 01:15:45,199
here is remarkable. Look, I
mean, I'm just forgetting some. You

1237
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:49,760
got Eric Morales against Marco Antonio.
Where are their third fight? Ye,

1238
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:55,359
fight of the year, culmination of
one of the great trilogies in history.

1239
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,960
I was here for that fight,
one of the most phenomenal fights I've ever

1240
01:15:58,039 --> 01:16:00,000
seen, ring sign. They fought
that here and as I said to you

1241
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:02,920
just a minute ago, if the
walls could talk, you know, Tim

1242
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,479
Bradley, you know, getting the
gift of all gifts here against Manny pacco

1243
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,520
in the fight that they had,
and they had their trilogy, I mean,

1244
01:16:11,119 --> 01:16:14,119
just one after another. One of
the fights I think, and I

1245
01:16:14,119 --> 01:16:15,720
mean I've been to a lot of
fights, but just on a personal level,

1246
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:19,079
I think the fight that I and
I joke around with Todd de buff

1247
01:16:19,119 --> 01:16:24,000
about this, He's the president of
Top Rank, the fight that I personally

1248
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:27,640
was the most excited in my entire
career to go cover because I thought it

1249
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,520
was just absolutely spectacular and I was
a huge fan of both fighters that were

1250
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,399
involved in the fight. And that
was when Manny Paccio fought Miguel Codo I

1251
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,800
could not have been more excited for
that fight. That fight was here,

1252
01:16:39,399 --> 01:16:43,399
Margarito versus Codo. The first fight
took here, obviously gained revenge of New

1253
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,640
York City. But one big fight
after another is like again, if you're

1254
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,199
making your boxing bucket list, go
to a fight at the MGM Grand because

1255
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:55,720
it's boxing history. And you know
they're gonna, I mean, we're gonna

1256
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,239
we're taping this before and but later
on Thursday night, they're having a reception

1257
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,439
down in the Grand Garden arena where
they've invited some dignitaries and a hotel personnel

1258
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,720
and media members and all that to
have like a little cocktail party, and

1259
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,279
they're gonna unveil a banner for the
one hundred fights. So I'm looking forward

1260
01:17:09,319 --> 01:17:12,479
to attending that later this evening.
That's gonna be a hell of a lot

1261
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,960
of fun, awesome. All the
big names, Tito Trinidad fight here,

1262
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,079
Bernard Hopkins fight here. You know, you name the star, you know.

1263
01:17:19,159 --> 01:17:23,840
Kelly Pavlck and Jermaine Taylor had their
rematch here. After the middleweight title

1264
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:28,640
fight, the extremely memorable undisputed fight
between Costa Zoo and Zab Judah took place

1265
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,199
here when Costazu, you know,
gave him the Bambi legs and knocked him

1266
01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:35,720
out in the second round. Oh. Another incredibly memorable fight Marco Antonio Barrera

1267
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:41,600
against Nassim Hahmed when he ended the
Prince's undefeated rain and just completely took him

1268
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,039
apart. I was here for that
fight also, just a remarkable performance from

1269
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:47,920
Barrera. Just I mean, there's
so many great fights, Floyd's fight against

1270
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:53,279
Like I said, the first fight
I had recoverer Floyd Mayweather against Diego Corrales,

1271
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,720
a fight where I picked Diego to
win, and I joked with Floyd

1272
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,840
over the years that that was the
last time I ever picked against him and

1273
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,760
I would never do it again.
A lot of people thought that that Chico

1274
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,319
was going to win that fight.
I wasn't the only one. And in

1275
01:18:04,359 --> 01:18:08,000
there, in my opinion, had
the greatest performance of his entire career,

1276
01:18:08,079 --> 01:18:11,600
where he scored five knockdowns and stopped
him in round ten, and it absolutely

1277
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,880
virtuoso kind of performance. Just that
phenomenal, phenomenal performance. And then of

1278
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,760
course there's the fights that I didn't
cover before my time. You know a

1279
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:23,079
bunch of those Oscar fights you mentioned
about the chombst fights that were here.

1280
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:26,439
The Melgic Taylor two fight was here. That was, you know, a

1281
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,000
situation where they kind of had to
have the remap, even though it was

1282
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:33,319
maybe a little pass these best days. But anyway, just an unbelievably historic

1283
01:18:33,399 --> 01:18:36,199
building that I'm sitting in, and
it's an honor and a privilege to come

1284
01:18:36,199 --> 01:18:40,640
here every single time and cover these
great fights here. Love it. You

1285
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,960
did such a great job over Kenny. The one thing I kept thinking when

1286
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,039
you were saying that, Madison,
I'm doing that off the top of my

1287
01:18:45,079 --> 01:18:46,720
fucking I know you are. I
can verify to the audience. He was

1288
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,239
not going over notes. He's just
going off of his his memories of having

1289
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:54,840
been there. That's why you're you, Madison. Square Garden is the all

1290
01:18:54,960 --> 01:19:00,479
time iconic venue and has been around
much longer, but I think it's fair

1291
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,600
to say the MGM grand is now
right there in terms of the consciousness of

1292
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:10,319
the last twenty five years ish that
you're talking about thirty years really going back

1293
01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:14,680
to the mid nineteen nineties. Incredible, incredible, and so we look forward

1294
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,359
to more of your coverage on your
substack about this. The pay per view

1295
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,479
coming up Saturday, night, we'll
talk more about it. There was a

1296
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,439
first. You could get a lot
of people on that one being the first

1297
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,239
Frankie Randall, Julio says ar Chavez
and now this is the one hundredth Gavonte

1298
01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:32,039
Davis and the main event with frank
the Ghost Martin and a ton in between.

1299
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,640
We leave anything else out? What
else? Well, I was just

1300
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,079
gonna say another hugely historic one that
that took place here not that long ago,

1301
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,520
was when Canelo Alvarez knocked out Caleb
Plant to become the undisputed super middleweight

1302
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,960
Chamian. That fight was here in
this building. That wasn't dow long.

1303
01:19:45,039 --> 01:19:48,640
When was that twenty twenty one?
In November of twenty one. I mean,

1304
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,159
there's so many big fights here.
It's just ridiculous. If I like,

1305
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:57,479
we're to like start to sorting through
like my poster collection, the amount

1306
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,279
of posters I have from places.
I say again, I just want to

1307
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:04,720
be the curator of the Raphaeld collection
in my retirement. That's all I want

1308
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:09,880
to be. And a lot of
it from the MGM. Grand Uh listen,

1309
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,199
I know you do. I hate
that I'm not out there with you.

1310
01:20:14,279 --> 01:20:15,199
It's only going to be in a
rare occasion when I get to be

1311
01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:17,319
with you on one of these.
I did one of these a year ago,

1312
01:20:17,319 --> 01:20:20,119
and that was at the T Mobile. Haven't ever seen one of the

1313
01:20:20,199 --> 01:20:24,359
mgine I have stayed in the MGM
Grand Missus Reeves and I a couple of

1314
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,359
years into marriage, did stay there
and in a side arena, not the

1315
01:20:28,359 --> 01:20:31,760
Grand Garden arena. We saw Rick
Springfield, Hello in a futuristic show.

1316
01:20:32,039 --> 01:20:36,680
True story, Springfield was very entertaining. You better love somebody. He was

1317
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:44,600
entertaining futuristic show. I won't sing
lots, but he was Rafael flying around

1318
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:49,279
on a saucer literally playing the electric
guitar that was suspended obviously by secret,

1319
01:20:49,279 --> 01:20:55,800
little invisible wire cables. And like
a week after we were out there,

1320
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,319
guess who fell off the futuristic saucer
and broke his arm and couldn't play the

1321
01:21:00,359 --> 01:21:03,359
show for a few weeks. Oh, we were glad we could see the

1322
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:09,079
man that's sang Jesse's Girl and all
those other songs Rick Springfield in the MGM

1323
01:21:09,119 --> 01:21:12,000
Grant. But my point is,
I've never been in that arena where you

1324
01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:15,319
will be now for the fifty sixth
time. I've never been in that arena

1325
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,119
much less for a world title fight. But that doesn't I mean even even

1326
01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:20,640
other fights I've been here. They've
had lots of fights in the conference center,

1327
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,039
in ballrooms. I've been to some
of those fights also, like back

1328
01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:28,000
in the Friday night fights. But
in terms of big arena one hundred events.

1329
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,159
But you just made me think about
that when you said you and your

1330
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:32,359
wife came out here for that Rick
Springfield thing and you went to the concert

1331
01:21:32,399 --> 01:21:36,560
here in this building. So I
have obviously come to Las Vegas a ton

1332
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,880
of times, well over one hundred
times. I think I'm up to like

1333
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,640
one hundred and thirty trips or something
like that. But the only time I

1334
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,800
ever came here not for boxing was
the very first time, in like nineteen

1335
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:54,000
ninety nine or nineteen ninety eight.
My wife and I my girlfriend at the

1336
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,840
time, we flew out here because
one of my friends in college who lived

1337
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,439
out here was getting married and we
were invited to Way, which is that

1338
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,359
the Harris Casino. So we came
out of here for a couple of days

1339
01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:04,279
and went to the wedding and we
made a little vacation out of it.

1340
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,479
And because I'm such a die hard
boxing fan, I wanted to see the

1341
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,680
MGM ran to me that was boxing
in Las Vegas. I mean, of

1342
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,640
course I remember as a kid Caesar's
Palace. It wasn't it wasn't the current

1343
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,399
place that was doing fights. So
we came over to the MGM Grand one

1344
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,680
day when we were here on that
trip for the wedding, and I went

1345
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,199
to the front door of the arena, you know inside because it's not like

1346
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:28,600
it's locked up, it's just part
of the the you can just walk right

1347
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,640
over. The door was locked,
there was nothing going on, but I

1348
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,279
got my picture taken in front of
that. And who in the world would

1349
01:22:32,319 --> 01:22:35,800
have ever thought that, you know, like two years later whatever it was,

1350
01:22:36,039 --> 01:22:40,479
that I would be coming here on
a regular basis to cover the fights

1351
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:45,119
because my thought was I watched Tyson
and holy Field, I remember seeing Big

1352
01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:48,199
George knock out more remember, you
know, the great matchups like you know

1353
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:53,279
with when Randall upset Javaz and just
all those earlier fights that I didn't cover.

1354
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,920
But I wanted to see like the
home of what I considered sort of

1355
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,039
like the home of boxing, all
these great fights that took place at the

1356
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:01,760
MGM. I mean, who can
forget you watch a showtime fight back in

1357
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,479
the day or an HBO fight.
They'd open the broadcast and they have the

1358
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:10,640
beauty shot of the shining emerald Green, you know building that stands up in

1359
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,600
the desert right in the middle of
the strip. I mean, it's just

1360
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,640
a glorious situation. I love it. Listen, I haven't thrown you out

1361
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,319
yet. That's good. Here's the
fifty six more my friend fifty six.

1362
01:23:24,119 --> 01:23:28,199
We love it. Great stuff on
the preview. We'll read more on your

1363
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:30,840
substack in the coming next twenty four
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1364
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,600
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01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:42,640
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1368
01:23:48,039 --> 01:23:50,600
us. And you also heard from
Jervonte Davis as well. Let's see what

1369
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:55,399
he looks like. Hey, why
don't we reconvene separate outlet on the bet

1370
01:23:55,560 --> 01:24:00,479
Us Boxing Show on Friday at one
Eastern time. I'm YouTube, Twitter,

1371
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,600
etc. And we'll handicap some of
these big time events we've been talking about.

1372
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,439
Sound good. Everything good sounds good. All right, Go get some

1373
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,600
food, Go get some rests on
location in Las Vegas. Thank you,

1374
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,039
Dan Rayfield. We look forward to
the weekend. Thank you, sir,

1375
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,039
there is Dan Rayfield. I'm merely
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1376
01:24:19,119 --> 01:24:23,159
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1377
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:26,159
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1378
01:24:26,199 --> 01:24:30,119
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1379
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1380
01:24:33,399 --> 01:24:34,479
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