WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:11.240 This is pod Popular Podcast for the People, The Great Love Debate. It's 2 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:18.120 the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's a great loved Hi 3 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:22.519 again, everyone's Brian Howie. Welcome to The Great Love Debate, the world's 4 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:27.480 number one dating and relationship podcast since twenty fifteen. I'm here at the very 5 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.160 fine studios of Pod Popular Podcasts for the People. I am, but the 6 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:36.159 one in Greenwich, Connecticut. Gloomy Day in Greenwich, Connecticut, So I 7 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.320 don't know. That's not exactly a chamber of commerce material Gloomy Day in Greenwich, 8 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.560 Connecticut. They don't put that in the ads. I want to talk 9 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.560 about something that we have not talked about in a couple of years on this 10 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:50.799 podcast. It's a fascinating subject to me. I have a lot of opinions 11 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.200 on it. I think I'm fairly well versed in it. But I had 12 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.640 to bring in a pro. I had to bring in a pro to break 13 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:58.200 it all down and answer some of the questions that I had. We're talking 14 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:02.439 about rom coms today, talk about romantic comedies. We're talking about the good 15 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:04.239 ones, the bad ones, Why it may or may not be a dying 16 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:08.280 breed, why it does not get necessarily the recognitions that they want, even 17 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.799 though rom coms are some of people's favorite movies. Ever, so I brought 18 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:19.319 in a two decades at least film critic, entertainment writer, keen, social 19 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.400 observer, and most importantly, the host of the Film Fury podcast. He 20 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.680 did a great job breaking down Oscar season what should have won? He was 21 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:33.040 about one hundred percent accurate on his predictions. The esteemed Alan Zeitlin, how 22 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:38.159 are you, OHI Brian grasive here? Thanks for having me. I think 23 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:41.319 I don't count Shakespeare in Love. I don't. I don't think it's a 24 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:42.319 romantic I don't think it's a comedy. I don't think I don't I don't 25 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:46.879 think anybody if you take that out and I'm gonna arbitrarily just take that out 26 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:51.680 equation, a romantic comedy has not I believe one and oz one best picture 27 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.959 since Annie Hall nearly fifty years ago. Is that right? Or am I 28 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:59.480 missing why it's true? There's some debate, Like there's some debate. Is 29 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:04.480 Silver Line Linings Playbook a romantic comedy? Is Jerry maguire romantic comedy? They 30 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.439 didn't win thom right. There's a film that I love, Eternal time in 31 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:12.400 the Spotless Mind that has little comedy, so I think, but they didn't 32 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.800 win though, right, I think you're they all win something almost famous is 33 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:21.400 I think a romantic comedy one screenplay, I think Silver Linings playbook, Jennifer 34 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:25.240 Lawrence. What. That's another thing. The Academy tends to honor the women, 35 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:29.840 the female plenty of supporting actresses, but not the film as a whole. 36 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.919 I think since Andy Hall, that is a long long time to go 37 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:38.560 with a lot of very very popular movies, you know, without giving it 38 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:42.960 the credit. I mean, comedies overall don't have a really did as good 39 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.639 as it get win something. I think Helen Hunt won for that. Again, 40 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:51.759 the female lead tends to win for Best Actress. Means like comedy is 41 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:53.919 hard for the romantic comedies off for the women, but the men rarely get 42 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:59.000 honored in the category and the film overall. Yeah, and you were saying, 43 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.599 is it a dying breed? I was checking in you have very few 44 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:06.520 great rom coms that were made in recent years. You have to go back 45 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.039 to the eighties where it was very high. In the nineties some but now 46 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:14.560 it's you know, it's kind of like there's some cheesiness in every rom comm 47 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.400 that you have to accept. But it's kind of now that it's considered that 48 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:23.199 it's maybe on life support. Yeah, there's some parody ish rom comms. 49 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:27.080 The Rebel Wilson won Amy Schumer one, but sort of like the glory days 50 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:31.520 when you had Meg Ryan, Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts, a little bit 51 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:36.199 of Kate Hudson. In this fifteen year period of rom comms, I'm not 52 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.560 sure that next generation. Even Drew Barrymore had a whole bunch of them. 53 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:42.360 I don't think that next generation has come up. There was a rom com 54 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:46.080 this year that did fairly well with Sidney Sweeney. I think Sidney Sweeney is 55 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:50.039 regarded as too hot to be in a rom com because you don't want to 56 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:53.719 go to a romantic comedy with your boyfriend and have him like her better. 57 00:03:54.159 --> 00:04:00.599 I learned another hard lesson. I went on a Datsy movie and person Michelle 58 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:02.919 said she wanted something heavy, So I went to see Manchester by the Sea 59 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.960 with Casey Afflett. Oh God, and there's death and there's a lot of 60 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.639 crying, so she was crying then. Needless to say, it did not 61 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:12.520 go well. At the end of the date. I later met the director 62 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.960 of the film with Matthew Broderick a few years later, and I told him 63 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:17.319 the story. He said, what are you stupid? You know movies or 64 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.319 that's not a date movie. So he's like, if you're going to a 65 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.480 date movie, pick something lighter, and like, I know, I really 66 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:25.920 messed up. I know. I knew I lost in a relationship one time 67 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:30.839 when I heard myself saying the words two tickets for must love dogs please, 68 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.000 I knew that I had lost my ability to have any say. I just 69 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:36.480 asked a fourteen year old who was just in your fourteen year old, young 70 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:41.800 lady, what's your favorite rom com And she said Titanic? And I said, 71 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.560 I don't think there's enough comedy in Titanic, and she named like three 72 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.759 things that she found funny. So what do we know? I would say, 73 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.680 I would say drowning is not the most hilarious thing I've seen, but 74 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:57.720 that generation looks at it like her pushing him off of the raft is hilarious. 75 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.600 So what a time are changing, my friend? I think another element 76 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:06.040 could be because and again, if you go back in the forties, fifties, 77 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:09.600 sixties, a lot of the Oscar winners. A lot of the best 78 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.639 pictures were romantic comedies. They were now though, because a lot of that 79 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.600 corner has been taken over by Hallmark and cable movies, and a lot of 80 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.720 all the beats are the same. They say that if the first thing that 81 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:27.279 AI is able to generate as a screenplay is romantic comedies, number two is 82 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.759 sports movies, underdog stories, all that. But they say that the AI 83 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:35.839 has the easiest time replicating a screenplay for a romantic comedy. So I think 84 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:43.959 that then it relies on the cast. It relies on finding that star to 85 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.120 carry it, and a lot of them, you know, haven't come out 86 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.639 of television the way you know, you would think it would have. That 87 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.839 had sort of the next generation of that, And I think that's part. 88 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:56.959 What was the name of the movie? You must have seen it with Sidney'sweeni 89 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:02.560 and the guy from Tom gunn Uh what's that now? Iman? The one? 90 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:04.560 I don't know. It did like one hundred It did like a hundred 91 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:08.160 million dollars this year, But I can't remember the name of it. Anything 92 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.639 but you or anything but you. Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, 93 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.399 And I'm sure if I you know, you go see a romantic comedy. 94 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.720 You can guess the beats right away, right. So part of it 95 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.240 is they didn't want it to be too predictable. The other there's this resistance 96 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:24.879 from men that they don't want to see a quote unquote chick flick. That 97 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.480 that's you know, it's hard. Even when I went to see Barbie, 98 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.319 they were men that were embarrassed to go and they were laughing and they said, 99 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:31.879 oh, I don't want to be here. I said, relax and 100 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.480 enjoy. You don't have to say you don't want to be I think that 101 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:38.519 could be true, that you don't want to But some of you ask any 102 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.199 guy you brought up Jerry maguire, which is definitely a romantic comedy. Everybody 103 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.720 likes Jerry McGuire. Everybody likes almost famous, everybody likes the wedding singer. 104 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.759 Pretty much every every Adam Sandler movie is pretty much a romantic comedy. Fifty 105 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:54.279 First Dates is a popular one with Drew Barrymore where he asked to convince her 106 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:57.800 each day that she likes him absolutely. And Drew Barrymore had a nice run. 107 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.720 She was in Sandler movie, She was in Music and Rics with You 108 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.920 Grant and You Grant is a big rom com guy, but there was that 109 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:09.519 period, you know that Julia Roberts the problem with it. Here's one of 110 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:15.759 the problems that the quote unquote serious actress. They eventually feel like they graduate 111 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.040 out of romantic comedies. They got to go do their Aaron Brockovich, they 112 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.560 got to go do their Blindside, they got to go do their stuff to 113 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:25.560 get their award or whatever. So they're not going to stay in it very 114 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.959 long. I don't know why they don't circle back once they have that Sandra 115 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.920 Bullet kind of did. She's you know, kind of out of the movies 116 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.720 for a lot of it. Now Julie Roberts might be aging herself out of 117 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:40.079 the movies, which is part of it too. But there are people that 118 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:44.319 do one or two or three and then they move on and it kind of 119 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.879 kills the genre. I was looking at Vantity Affairs lists for their top ones. 120 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.759 One that didn't make my top five was how to Lose a Guy in 121 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.759 Ten Days. So I wanted to know, Brian, what percentage of your 122 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:59.439 male listeners would be willing if they liked a woman to go to a Celine 123 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:03.759 dion Kant instead of a Knicks playoff him. Please please, I know that 124 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.040 is a really good point. That's you know, that is a big rom 125 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.879 Colm. That's a very popular movie. So last time we did this is 126 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.560 about three years ago. I made the argument and I stand by it that 127 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:18.639 When Harry Met Sally is the number one rom com and if you google various 128 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.000 lists, most people tend to agree with that, and it holds up. 129 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.920 It holds up because you could believe the story. You could believe the obstacles. 130 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.080 It wasn't so much guy trying to get girl out of his league, 131 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.279 even though Mega Ryan was super cute. It's guy trying to figure out this 132 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:43.039 basket case and her trying to figure out why the man thought this way, 133 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.559 and they went through all the kind of thing and they eventually got together. 134 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.399 That holds up in any decade. Yeah, the knock on it is that 135 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.399 there's too much dialogue, but I really, God forbid. I originally had 136 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.720 it as my number two, but I had to push it. We'll see, 137 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:58.759 because it really I didn't think it would stand up as like the tenth 138 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.200 time I've seen it, and I didn't expect it to stand up in twenty 139 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.720 twenty four as it did so many years ago, and I was surprised that 140 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:07.639 it did. I mean, it still works, and it still it hits 141 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.440 all the things that it needs to. Meg Ryan had you Got Mail? 142 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.600 She had Sleepless in Seattle? Was she and Joe vol versus the Volcano? 143 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.360 Was that her? I think so? I think that's her too, Like 144 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.080 she had a run and then we don't see a whole lot of Meg Ryan 145 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.159 anymore. She did one that came back this year with David U. Covenaney, 146 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:30.080 but I think it was like a Netflix movie and nobody saw it. 147 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:37.200 But she had that something about her where she's certainly cute enough, she was 148 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.360 certainly likable enough, but there was a little bit of like basket case appeal 149 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.799 that makes her relatable and makes it be like the guy who's going on a 150 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:48.639 date to the movie, he's not gonna I broughtup Sidney Sweeney thing. You 151 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.440 might go to a fraternity house now and you might see a Sidney Sweeney poster 152 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.279 on the wall. No matter how lovely the ones I just named Sandra Bullock, 153 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.799 Julia up, You're never gonna see a poster of them on the wall. 154 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.200 I think that is a key element of appeal, that the woman is 155 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.399 going to bring her date to a movie and not think that the date's gonna 156 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.799 like the girl in the movie better. And then Jennifer Lawrence had no hard 157 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.960 feelings in the Summer, but it was more it was a little different because 158 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.600 it was a younger guy. And did she have I didn't see that. 159 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.399 I know the movie. Did she have a romantic lead in that movie? 160 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.240 Kind of, But it was more that she wanted to get money to pretend 161 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.840 to like him, and it wasn't because he was younger. It wasn't like 162 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.000 they're going to actually ever have a real romance. So it was more it 163 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.200 was kind of and but it was. She was good in it, but 164 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.320 it wasn't. I'm hoping there can be a resurgence in rom comic because I 165 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.720 like them, and yeah, I think everybody likes them. I think they're 166 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:45.639 good. Silver Lining's Playbook was really off the wall, and again she played 167 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:50.279 a troubled at best woman, so did he They got together. It was 168 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.720 funny, but it didn't do huge box office. Silver Lining in Lining's Playbook 169 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.279 is not part of the everyday vocabulary. People don't talk about it that much. 170 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.759 But it was great and it was honored, if not Best Picture doesn't 171 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.679 get the top slot. What was your one? So you said, Harry 172 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.639 met Sally is not your one. That would still be my number, but 173 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.720 we'll we'll go from five. So the number five would be the Princess Bride 174 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.799 Rob Reiner. Yeap, you had Carrie Ellis says humperd Ink and Robin Wright 175 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:20.840 as this princess. So of course you have one of the best lines ever 176 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.320 of Mandy Fittink and hello, my name is Anigo Montoy. You killed my 177 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.879 father prepared to die. So when you have a line like that, it's 178 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.600 great. You have Andre the Giant making jokes and I don't know how he 179 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.600 was able to do that. That was, of course grace. And you 180 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.440 say, what would have got If you had a choice between the Celine Dion 181 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.919 or beating up a giant, Andre the Giant, I would go with the 182 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.840 I probably would too. I couldn't beat up Andrea the Giant, but that 183 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.840 was very funny. And then of course you have the Wallace Shawn as Zini 184 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.240 tricking him. Is this class the poison? This class the poison? But 185 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.720 that was really very classic, very true. But what I found most interesting 186 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.240 is to show the wonder years that I liked Kevin Arnold is played by Fred 187 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:03.320 Savage. He has Columbo Peter Falk there with a book, convincing him at 188 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:05.919 the beginning, Hey, this is a story worth reading. He said, 189 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:07.000 Oh, is this a lot of kissing in this? Is this kind of 190 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.519 a girl? He said, No, there's pirates, there's violence, so 191 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.960 it's very meta. It's like convincing the male audience. You can like a 192 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.639 rom com and there can be violence too, and there can be cool stuff. 193 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.200 So that I thought was very well done. It was very pure and 194 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.279 everything. Everything was solid. There wasn't great, great acting that I'll knock 195 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.240 your shoes off, but it was funny and it had a sweet romance. 196 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:30.440 Of course, I hope most men don't have to say, as you wish 197 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.159 to everything the girl wants, but they don't. But that is a good 198 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.799 choice. When you bring up Princess Pride to the people who are familiar with 199 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.080 it, everybody's like, ah, yeah, I like that movie. Right 200 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.159 four, I would say Julia Roberts, I didn't love Pretty Woman as much 201 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.840 as others. I like Julia Roberts much better in My best Friend's Wedding because 202 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.360 in every movie we root for someone, and this is one of the rare 203 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:52.200 movies that we start rooting for her. But of course you figure, okay, 204 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:54.480 Julie Roberts, she's you know, all these people have a good friend 205 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.200 and they wait too long and they didn't pull the trigger. The trigger. 206 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.720 Who's gonna beat out Julia Roberts, Cameron Diaz at twenty or twenty one, 207 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.519 could Peter. We're rooting for Julia Roberts and we want her to steal the 208 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.200 guy away. Dermot mulrooney, Right, it's weird that Julia Robs is the 209 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.919 less attractive one at that time. That never happens, and it never happens 210 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.159 that she's doing something bad, and the viewer we shift and we're like, 211 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:16.679 wait a minute, she's not the goodie too, She's not the one they're 212 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.639 rooting for. Let's we want Cameron Diaz to win. So I think that's 213 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.000 against the cliche and against the norm. So that's something's very cool, and 214 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.639 that's something that I like, Yeah, and I would give it a number 215 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.840 before there. And of course that film shows a you know, a wedding 216 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.639 where I think in real life, I don't know if it's happened to you, 217 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:35.600 it happened to me that a friend of mine married a cool person. 218 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.600 I was happy for them, never a person I wanted to marry. But 219 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:41.679 if that did happen, I know they say that ends justify the means. 220 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.240 Would you think there could ever be a situation where if you're really to get 221 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.159 the person you love? In the film, there's a he writes for a 222 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.679 sports magazine and they she sent a fake email. Do you think it would 223 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:54.480 be okay to do something quote unquote and marl if it means you'll be able 224 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.159 to marry the person you loved? Yeah? No, Right, that's a 225 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.559 hole in the story that we have to gudes fairy tale. Right, But 226 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.480 you don't think it's good to do something totally off the walls. I mean, 227 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:05.360 I don't think it's good to do it totally off the wall. I 228 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:09.000 think I think you got to respect the day. There are people that would 229 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.960 throw their grandmothers down the stairs together the person they love. But I think 230 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:15.639 so too. There's plenty. There's plenty of movies where somebody shows up at 231 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.759 the church and says stop. There's plenty of those. Number three to me 232 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.039 is number one in terms of dating and a movie that's instructive that could give 233 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.519 you good things to take away. But in terms of movie, it's not 234 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.519 the best. Number three is still three hundred Days of Summer, which is 235 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.320 five hundred days of Summer. That's so funny you bring that up. That 236 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:33.639 is my second favorite. I brought it up on the last thing, and 237 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.600 so many people hadn't seen it. The thing about that movie not to give 238 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.840 away the end or anything like that. They even say, this is not 239 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:43.679 a love story. There's a story about the beginning. They tell you that 240 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:48.679 right up. That is a fantastic movie. It's very well crafted, it's 241 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.240 very well done. I think that's great. You bring that up five hundred 242 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.799 I should have said five hundred of Summer. But one of the reasons is 243 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.879 great is because it's very real. It's things that have happened. It's dialogue 244 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.559 I've heard and we all like to play Monday morning quarterback when a relationship doesn't 245 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.720 work out. I tell everyone, it's okay to play Monday morning quarterback. 246 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.039 Don't be Tuesday morning quarterback. Give it up by the next day, because 247 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.120 you're not gonna know if you could have done this, What if I said 248 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.279 this, What if I took her to this restaurant, what if I did 249 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.399 something different? And the truth is again without giving it away. You know, 250 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.960 a person could say they're not ready for this, they're ready for that. 251 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.399 But there's some hard truths that Zoe de Chanel The Summer says that she's 252 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.360 such a sweet character and it's so nice, but she gives it to him 253 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.480 straight at a certain point, and sometimes we do need to hear the real 254 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:35.679 things in life. We do need to hear the truth. And you could 255 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.080 and when you look back, you could see all the signs that people didn't 256 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.720 pick up all whatever she does give it to him straight, and there is 257 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:46.000 nothing, and she's delightful, and you could just see again see the movie 258 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.000 worrying and give it away. Could not get a higher recommendation out of me. 259 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.360 I think that movie's fantastic, right, Yeah, I would say five 260 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.080 hundred Day of the Summer. Definitely go see that number two. Some people 261 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.480 might disagree, but say anything with John Cusack. One of the things that 262 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.919 reminds me is that I'm forty five. When I in my early days of 263 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:04.799 dating, I had to pick up the phone, no cell phone, and 264 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.720 a father would answer the phone, and the father might say, who's this? 265 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:11.519 What do you want with my daughter? Why should I let you either. 266 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.240 So you had a first obstacle to overcome. Now you're just texting you're 267 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.320 there. There's no obstacles. People don't realize. So there's a scene where 268 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.240 he calls it. Ione Sky is the actress, and John Cusack is Lloyd 269 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.200 Dobbler, a kickboxer. He doesn't really have such a strong life going ahead, 270 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.919 but he has guts, and we talk about how do you get someone 271 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.559 to go out with the all different ways, pick up lines that don't work. 272 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.080 But she on the phone when he finally gets her, she's rejecting him, 273 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.000 and he uses humor and he says why not, and he's funny, 274 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:42.519 yeah, And she has to look in the yearbook. She doesn't even know 275 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.600 who he was. But because of humor, he still gets and he keeps 276 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.360 it going, keeps it light, and he gets her to go out, 277 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:51.279 and then anything can happen. You know, it's not always like the movies, 278 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:52.879 but if you keep it light and keep humoring it, keep determined. 279 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:56.720 I think that's a great lesson for everybody that Usac had a nice run. 280 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:00.240 He was in a movie called The Shere Thing that was a great one where 281 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:04.240 he traveled across the country speak Say Anything is another Cameron Crowe movie. Cameron 282 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:07.880 Crowe did say Anything. He did Jerry Maguire, he did almost Famous. 283 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.960 He came out of a world of journalism, which to me, you know, 284 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:17.279 almost Famous is famously based on his life story. A journalist, I 285 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:22.119 think is able to pick up on nuances of character and behavior and dialogue, 286 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:26.640 which I think did does lend itself to writing directing rom coms. And some 287 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.559 could argue that humor doesn't go so far, but I have in real life. 288 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.480 I can tell you I've seen guys use humor to impress people and get 289 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.960 dates, and a lot of people if they just give up at one no, 290 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.799 I think if you're persistent, but in respectful way, the way, 291 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:44.000 there's a way to do it in one conversation instead of just giving up. 292 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.920 I think some women want a guy to show that they're special and show you 293 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.759 know, I got a little metal and a little kickback, not just you 294 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.240 expect me to say yes immediately from just hello. That's okay. So your 295 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:56.000 number one is Harry Metzone. My number one is when Harry met Sally. 296 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.799 But I would say that the dialogue holds up. I think most people don't 297 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.359 talk to it I would also say I've been to many restaurants in my life. 298 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:07.759 I don't think in real life a woman would fake an orgasm in a 299 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.960 restaurant like Mike Rand does. But it was a great scene. Well, 300 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.920 I've had an orgasm of cats as Deli, so I'm not sure. The 301 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.799 brisket, Oh my god, it's it's orgasm worthy. This podcast, I 302 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.680 hope is orgasm worthy. We're gonna take a quick break. I'm here with 303 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.160 Alan zeitelnd. We're breaking down some rom coms. We've talked about the women. 304 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.160 I want to talk about the men in a minute. We got to 305 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:32.240 take a quick break to pay for things like romantic comedies and Pistrami at Kats's 306 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:38.079 Delhi. We will be back right after this, and we are back. 307 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:45.519 We talked about Sandler a little bit. Matthew McConaughey had a nice run at 308 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.640 it. It's hard to be that handsome and still be enough of a goofball. 309 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.960 I think, though, the one who had the best run, and 310 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:56.640 I think he can still do today is Hugh Grant. Hugh Grant had an 311 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.319 amazing run. I mentioned music and lyric which a lot other people hadn't seen 312 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:06.519 Nodding Hill, the one where he play about a boy. Is that another 313 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:11.759 Hugh Grant movie? What was the other one that is a nodding noding Hill, 314 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:17.559 Notting Hill. He had a nice he's he's charming. He has a 315 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:22.160 little bit of a stutter. He seems not It's tough when you get too 316 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:25.920 good looking a man, they have to have some flaw so the woman be 317 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:27.359 like, Okay, I could put up with that. I could deal with 318 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.920 that right now. With Matthew McConaughey, they have one where the flaw is 319 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.799 that he's too much of a player in some movies, or he has trouble 320 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.240 a lot of these movies. Sort of the beat of whether it's a Vince 321 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:42.160 Vaughan movie or it's Sandler or whatever is. They have a hard time growing 322 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:45.880 up, the failure to launch kind of thing, and a lot of women 323 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:49.680 can relate to that frustration. If I could just get them to do if 324 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.160 I could just get them to wear a pair of pants, everything might change 325 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.480 in our relationship. That is a big part of what has appeal, at 326 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.559 least for women romantic comedy as much as the fairy tale. They're always looking 327 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:04.799 for, how can I change reform fix this guy, and how will that 328 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.079 trickle down in my relationship? And maybe if the guy sitting next to me 329 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.160 while he sees this happen, see he did that and look at what happened. 330 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.000 Oh if the young actors now of who might be in some you know, 331 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.480 rom comes to the future. I think Timothy Shallon may might be in 332 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:19.720 the future after he plays Bob Dylan. Yeah, that is I you know, 333 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:22.119 I didn't even know he's playing Bob Dylan. That will go a long 334 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.279 way to uh. And don't be offended if I if I say this term, 335 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.359 I'm gonna say it. Butchers up Chala may a little bit. It 336 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:36.039 mans him up a little bit. He's a little too delicate, I guess 337 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:40.640 is the word. I think that's a big that's a huge part to take 338 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.279 on, to take on Bob Dylan and not just do it as like a 339 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:47.240 pure impression. You know. I think he can pull it off. He's 340 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:49.720 a fantastic actor. Good for him, you know. And one of the 341 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:53.599 things that I liked about when Harry met Sally is that it wasn't formulaic. 342 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:57.039 They didn't start out Usually it's just boy meets girl. There's an obstacle and 343 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:00.440 then they wind up together. You kind of did think you knew the ending, 344 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.880 but it was still in a different way. And then of course they 345 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.000 have the whole thing in New York City, which I love in New Years. 346 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:07.640 But to me, I didn't feel bad on New Year's if I didn't 347 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.079 kiss someone, wasn't real. So some people it's a huge deal. I've 348 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:12.960 seen people crying if they're alone in New Year's and they're not kissing someone. 349 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:18.680 So I don't know why. And by no means was Billy Crystal then or 350 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.519 what is Billy Crystal ever his career a leading man, he never really did 351 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.359 anything else like that, so to be they didn't, You know, they 352 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.559 put Meg Ryan in a lot of other movies. You clearly could believe that 353 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.480 his character Harry obviously would end up with her. But he didn't get a 354 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:40.119 whole series of romantic comedies. I didn't think he got another one. I 355 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.160 don't think any women had his poster on as well. That's why I don't 356 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.680 either. But Sam, I mean, he's obviously comedian, and I mean 357 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:51.799 Jack Black has had more romantic comedies than Billy Crystal did, who arguably did 358 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:55.079 the best one ever. He went on after that and probably did city slickers 359 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:57.920 and stuff like that, not romantic comedies. He was buried and loved his 360 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.079 wife, and that sort of the story of all that. I think, 361 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.160 as with the male actors, they either placed them in comedy or a drama, 362 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:06.480 and then they try to do a few in between, and it's not 363 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:08.640 like, yeah, Julie robertson, Meg Ryan. I guess Tom Hanks for 364 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.680 a while was the guy there A good point. Yeah, So Tom Hanks 365 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:18.960 had a long, long run starting probably with nothing in common go way way 366 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:23.119 back, splash. He was the non threatening good guy, non threatening good 367 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:29.079 guy, good looking enough. You could see funny, goofy sort of you 368 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:34.880 know the turf that eventually I think Vince Vaughan probably took over. You could 369 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.319 see that. But then Tom Hanks, you know, you win two Oscars 370 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:40.839 back to back, you're probably you're not necessarily going back to that. I 371 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:42.839 said that about Woody Allen, Like Woody Allen, if you go back to 372 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:47.680 the to the Bananas, take the money and run the sixties seventies with on, 373 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:52.759 he is as funny as everything. He hasn't made a really traditional funny 374 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:57.240 movie in forty years. I mean long Clum maybe like hann and her sisters. 375 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:02.519 You could probably see is a but it's been he really has gone. 376 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:06.200 And you know, for somebody who puts out a movie every year, which 377 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:10.279 he pretty much does still to this day, he hasn't gone back to do 378 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:14.240 that. And you kind of remember how funny what he Allen was as a 379 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.680 writer and to cast himself, which he always did alongside beautiful women, which 380 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.119 to give him credit, he did date a lot of them in real life. 381 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.680 You know, you think that right now in terms of the movie studios, 382 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.480 they just don't think it can really do well in the box office, 383 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:30.599 so they were reluctant or they don't have the actors that they think are the 384 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.599 right combo of the leads that will make it a smash. You know, 385 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.759 I don't know that is a good point. It is hard to hit that 386 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:44.000 bullseye and a lot of times, you know, Heaven Can Wait is a 387 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.400 rom com, right, that was a remake. He was at the height 388 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:51.440 at Warren Batty at that time was at the height of his powers and he 389 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:53.640 decided, I'm going to remake an all movie and I'm gonna make a rom 390 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:56.160 comm starring me. But like you kind of have to be willing to do 391 00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:00.319 that. Like I think Bradley Cooper if he wanted to just say, like 392 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:02.880 I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna write, direct and be in a romantic 393 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:04.319 it's probably gonna be awesome. He can certainly get it funded, He could 394 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.839 certainly get it made and it would probably be great. You know, I 395 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:12.599 don't know if he is ever outside of silver Lining's Playbook, which had a 396 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.200 lot of drama in it. I'm not sure he did a chef movie. 397 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.880 Was that a romantic comedy? Not exactly, But it's interesting. You know, 398 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:25.119 Netflix has to all the boys I've loved before, so they're trying to 399 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.359 do something. They're good, but they're not on anything close to that, 400 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:32.920 and you have Julie Roberts, Cameron Diaz are aging out, and the male 401 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:34.880 actors are also aging out of that thing. But you're right, Bradley Cooper 402 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:40.079 should still do what he wants. I think we cheated Reese Witherspoon out of 403 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.519 a spot on the Pantheon of she was during that same time. So it's 404 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:48.640 amazing if you look at that run from Harry met Side was what like eighty 405 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:53.839 eight. Yeah, for about a twenty year period, there were seven actresses 406 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.759 who were top and probably had four or five each. That is a lot 407 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:03.359 of rom coms. Now we're like, maybe did cut Bake Cake beckon Sale 408 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.319 do one? I don't know. Yeah, it's a dying genre. I 409 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:08.960 think a little bit of is budget. They're not that expensive to do, 410 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:11.440 so they're like, well, let's just do it and stream it, or 411 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.559 let's you know, say all the Sandler movies now go right to Netflix. 412 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:19.839 A lot of the if you don't get the star, that script then goes 413 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:26.119 to Hallmark. You know, turn it turns into a Christmas movie where they 414 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.680 bang those things out. They have a movie a day on the Hallmark channel 415 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.200 and Christmas season. So it's kind of that you got to hit that sweet 416 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.920 spot, like what does a seventy million dollar budget get me in terms of 417 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.799 a rom com? Because they're risky because they don't translate. That is the 418 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.000 thing about comedies, which is why even if you look at Broadway shows, 419 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.880 plays don't do as well. Because musicals translate any language. You can come 420 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.839 watch somebody singing dance even if you don't speak a word of English. You 421 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.240 can't do that with plays. You can't always do that with romantic comedies or 422 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.640 any comedies. No, it's definitely true. It reminds me one other thing 423 00:25:55.720 --> 00:26:00.319 from from a lot of romantic comedies. Will a guy on a date if 424 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:04.160 his woman is dishonored and you saw it in five hundred Days of Summer and 425 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.440 then some others, would you be willing to get punched and fight if it's 426 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.400 a first or second date or even longer to show your manhood? Is that? 427 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.200 Do you think it's the guy's obligation to show his man who in a 428 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.440 fight if it gets to that level where the woman is disrespected. Yeah. 429 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.279 No, that's a good point that whoever's writing this is putting themselves in the 430 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.640 in the role of the character that weren't willing to do that. Goodwill Hunting 431 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:27.920 isn't really a romantic comedy, but that damon wrote those kind of scenes where 432 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:32.799 they risk getting their ass kick for the for the love of a woman. 433 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.119 I don't think that's funny enough to really qualify as a romantic comedy, but 434 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.400 still it was in there. I think some of the beats though, the 435 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.920 you know, quirky best friend are crazy. You know that always comes up 436 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.039 in every sort of thing, or his slob roommate kind of thing. Jumping 437 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.680 in on him. These are things that we're familiar with, but in a 438 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.160 good way. People understood. They're not like, oh, this is this 439 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.240 typical character like this, it has just gone away. I think it is 440 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:03.400 lack of imagination in casting, and I think it's I don't know how to 441 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:07.000 market this, you know, but if you can do comedy as an actor, 442 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.319 and I it's the hardest thing to do. A lot of people can 443 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:11.839 play the villain, it's the fun thing. But if you can pull off 444 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:17.920 comedy, it opens a whole world. You know. Kristen Bell never quite 445 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.599 everybody likes her de lifel actress. She never quite moved over to sort of 446 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:27.440 leading lady romantic comedy status. Did you like there's something about Mary? It 447 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.640 was too much for you. I love there's something there's something about Mary, 448 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:36.559 but that you know, you had to you had to have Cameron, you 449 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.400 know, that was more of a quest for They don't really it's not like 450 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:45.000 will they won't lie for a long time. That's I almost put something about 451 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:49.799 Mary in the same category as Dumb and Dumber, where the chase of the 452 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.799 woman sort of existed to have a whole lot of other plot plot things and 453 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.519 jokes going on, but yeah, something about Mary's fantastic. It's more of 454 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.480 comedy than romantic, because we were saying, yeah, but it has a 455 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.160 lot of great funny times. I think in the rom com the calm part 456 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.359 of it always gets pushed the side and it's more of their own they do. 457 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.440 And we've brought this up on the podcast before a lot of guys, 458 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.200 you know a lot of you know people say, well, how could he 459 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.119 think he could get her? Why would that guy ask? A lot of 460 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:19.000 women are like, why would he ask me out? I'm not clearly out 461 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.680 of his league. Because we watch romantic comedies and we see it happen. 462 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:30.799 We see the beautiful girl go for happy Gilmore, we see Jack Black get 463 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.559 the girl. We see all these characters get the girl. And in real 464 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:34.319 life, so the man you drag him there, he's like, oh, 465 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:40.359 maybe I can get as crazy as in real life. I see people together 466 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:41.839 and I'm like, what does this person seeing this person? But it's their 467 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.200 life. I don't know. Maybe there's something that you can is not so 468 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.039 evident. What's the movie with a I brought Christen Belt, Jason Siegle, 469 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:53.200 and Milaicunis, what is that what's that movie? Oh yeah, sagle, 470 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:59.279 Uh it was. It's usually on the top. It's escaping. For the 471 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:00.960 second though, we get some help from the gallery in here. What is 472 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.920 that movie? I'm gonna stall while he googled, how can we forget? 473 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:06.880 That's not a good sign that I forget the name of the movie. I 474 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:11.200 also forgotten. But it is good. That is goods on vacation and yeah, 475 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.319 we're gonna say, I'm gonna this is gonna do. The audience is 476 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.640 screaming at us listening to this right now. Sorry about that. We'll come 477 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.880 back to me. Definitely could have been more if she wanted to. She 478 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.640 did a couple of Timberlake, those kind of things. Yeah, Timberlake I 479 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:32.799 think is too charming, smooth talents to slick. He's too slick to be 480 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:34.240 to be the rom com guy. You need to see a flaw in your 481 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.799 rom com guy. But one we are leaving out he's turned into a punchline 482 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:45.400 now is will Smith. Will Smith obviously had a long, long run as 483 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:51.279 being that just the right amount of goofy. He was in Hitch. He 484 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.640 was in hitch he could do a lot of things. Everybody liked him. 485 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.640 Hold on I'm stalling while I look up this me Lacunas Uh Jason movie. 486 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:08.400 It is called Forgetting Sarah Marshall. We've forgotten Sarah Marshall movie. That's a 487 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.920 great movie. It is. Russell Brand is great in that movie. If 488 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.680 you have enough characters and you bring them together, and you do that. 489 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:21.200 Two romantic comedies, and these are going to age people out if you have 490 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.519 not seen them. They came out I think the same year. They also 491 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.759 have the same beats to them, and they might be two of my if 492 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.000 I had to make a list of my twenty favorite movies. They are both 493 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:38.519 in my twenty favorite movies. Broadcast News and Working Girl they are. And 494 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.839 in both those movies you're taking guys who are not particularly seen as funny. 495 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.440 In Working Girl you're taking Harrison Ford at the peak of his Harrison fordness with 496 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:53.480 Melanie Griffith, And in Broadcast News you're taking William Hurt, who could not 497 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.720 have been a less humorous person. You had the Albert Brooks sidekick and everything, 498 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:02.400 but William Hurt had to play the beats in that character right. He 499 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.319 had to be a he had to play it straight to allow all the comedy 500 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.279 to happen to allow the craziness of Holly Hunter's character. Those movies came out 501 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.160 within a year and a half of each other. Melanie Griffith was nominated, 502 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:17.160 Ally Hunter was nominated. The movies were nominated, didn't win, but that 503 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.920 was part of that great era. I wonder if so is it a thing 504 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.960 that in twenty twenty four are people still going on dates and wanting to see 505 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.880 a romantic comedy in the theater. Maybe they think people aren't. That is 506 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.519 another part of it. So I don't think that the studios can gamble on 507 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.519 people going to the theater. Made they know they're going to go to the 508 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.039 theater because they need the imax, they need the comic book movies, they 509 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.279 need the superhero movies, they need the action movies, because you don't really 510 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.359 need that on the big screen. That's a good point. A lot of 511 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:53.759 these are ending up on Apple. They're ending up as or if you you 512 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.079 know you want to write this. A lot of the talented writing it wants 513 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.680 to have a series on HBO. But I think what's interesting that Adam Sandler 514 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.400 in fifty first Dates. For any relationship that works, you wonder we always 515 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.839 wonder what didn't go right, but we don't always wonder what did go right. 516 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.440 So in that film, he doesn't know what went right, so he 517 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:16.960 tries the next day and the next day kind of like ground out day, 518 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.640 to try to see, well, what did work, And sometimes we always 519 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.279 it's hard to know what did and sometimes we'll never know, and it just 520 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:30.359 sometimes it just clicks, and that's it. They you brought up. I 521 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.400 brought up the television thing. David E. Kelly, who went on and 522 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.799 made a bunch of movies still I think, married to Michelle Pfeiffer, so 523 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:40.599 props to him. He created Ally McBeal and Ally McBeal one not to get 524 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:47.839 into television one Best Drama and Best Comedy in two different years. I can't 525 00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.400 even believe what a bullseye that is to pull off. And you forget how 526 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:55.359 groundbreaking that show was, to the point where Robert Downey probably owes his career 527 00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:01.559 now to Ally McBeal, letting him, at at the peak of his bad 528 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:06.480 boy behavior, couldn't get insured on any movie. Nobody could do it. 529 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.559 They allowed him to play like a little romantic interest sidekick of Ally McBeal. 530 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.480 That sort of made him trustworthy in the Hollywood industry again. You know, 531 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.240 No, that is something because it's a way of you know, getting back. 532 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.799 We'll see if there are other actors that can do that. I wonder 533 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:22.880 if we'll see some now try to get into that. A lot of actors 534 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.640 that have never been comedy want to do that, and that's a vehicle to 535 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:30.160 try to get in. We might see some series or I think Netflix is 536 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.640 going to do a lot where it's just straight to streamer that you have trilogies 537 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.079 or books that are based on that. And they also want to go at 538 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.440 the ya crowd of you know, high school age because a lot of these 539 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.960 classics say anything, it's high school age, but the actors, of course 540 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.000 are older, and they're like, yeah, the actor's really twenty five, 541 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.960 but we're going to say it's high school kind of like Grease in that. 542 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:51.519 But I think we might see resurgence, but it may not be in movies 543 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.200 in the theater. It might be for streaming. You know. There's also 544 00:33:53.240 --> 00:34:00.880 been this run of girl gang comedies, Bridesmaids, Perfect those series like that 545 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:07.279 where there is sort of this very side tangential romantic interest, but it's not 546 00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.840 about that. It's about a bunch of girls who oddly don't need the guys 547 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.199 to be funny and have a good time. They always have to bring one 548 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:15.639 guy in at the end because somebody's studio is probably like, you need a 549 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.519 romantic interest or whatever. But a lot of that, a lot of the 550 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.559 comedy air has been taken in a good way by a lot of those films. 551 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:27.159 It's interesting. Someone said Swingers is the best bromance movie, but it's 552 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.440 not quite a romantic comedy because the female character that he likes only comes out 553 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.519 at the end. Same thing, Yeah, same thing. And I went 554 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:37.679 back and I watched that. That's funny, bring that up. I watched 555 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:44.199 that the scene when he tries to leave a message on the girl's answer, 556 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.760 which was again, doesn't date them. That wouldn't happen now. It doesn't 557 00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.760 date the movie now because you're like, but you can listen to that, 558 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:53.880 like, oh my god, going down in flames. Now, that would 559 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:58.719 be incessant texting or whatever. It would hold up. But yeah, that's 560 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.880 a great movie. That's a bro movie too. But there always is a 561 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:07.880 hope, even at the romance, even Harley's Girl girl group comedies, that 562 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:13.440 somebody has either been hurt, they're trying to get over hurt or they're trying 563 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.000 to find hope again, and all that is related to romance. And then 564 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.960 I wonder, with my big fact Greek wedding and a lot of wedding movies, 565 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.960 it seems like there may be a little less wedding movies. Is that 566 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.639 maybe they think that, you know, it's a little too conservative to say 567 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.599 like you're not complete if you're not married, and maybe they're trying to say 568 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.760 like it so, which is sad, because weddings are great set pieces. 569 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.840 You know, you go back to the Godfather, great set pieces for characters, 570 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.480 conversation, action, all of it. As their funerals, you know, 571 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.440 Hugh Grant for weddings at a funeral, that's another one. Anything where 572 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:53.199 you bring a collection of characters, relatives, personalities, situations together that can 573 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:58.079 lead to chaos is always ripe for comedy, and sometimes out of that storm 574 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.239 comes romance. Have you ever been to a wedding where when they said, 575 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:06.119 if anyone has a problem speaking now when someone says something, I have been 576 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.320 to that. My cousin was at that point in his own wedding and he 577 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:15.800 passed out. He was hungover and dehydrated from the from the night before, 578 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.480 at his at his, at the at the rehearsal dinner, and it got 579 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.039 to that point as anybody, and he keeled over and so it didn't. 580 00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:29.599 That marriage did not last. So that that did it. Yeah, the 581 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.239 traditional like waight stop. I have been to weddings where I knew somebody in 582 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:40.239 the wedding either had dated wanted to do. There was some kind of energy 583 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:45.360 going on, weird in the crowd. I've I've been around that. Yeah, 584 00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.679 that's because I always well, I've been some crazy weddings, but I've 585 00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.480 never been to one where there was a ruckus like that. But I just 586 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:53.920 wondered what would be like in real life to be that. But you're right, 587 00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:58.119 it does play because there's all that stress and that expectation. And that's 588 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.400 why one of the greatest things about one Hundred Days of Summer, which I 589 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.559 recommend everyone see, is that in the end they have expectation and reality by 590 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.880 side. I know and you see that, and it's so jarring that that 591 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:13.199 happens in romance but also in our job, and we always have these expectations 592 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.559 and then some people can't have movies, they cannot process somewhere they can enjoy 593 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.880 them if they don't wrap up in a neat little bow. People, and 594 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:23.760 if you have not seen this movie, cover your ears. I bring up 595 00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.559 La La Land a Lot, which is not a romantic comedy, although it 596 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.960 is very funny and it's certainly romantic and it's musical, doesn't wrap up in 597 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.760 a neat little package the way everybody wants. And that leaves a lot of 598 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.800 times the audience feeling empty that they needed to go exactly like this, or 599 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.599 I can enjoy it, that's lazy movie. Well. We give out cards 600 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.960 after and some people write, I want a happy ending, and there's something 601 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.000 I want happy ending. I don't want so and so to die, I 602 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.239 don't want this to happen. And they're influenced by the cards. They cannot 603 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:58.559 take any chances on something like this not happening to me. Continue, I'm 604 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.039 going to hand here. A lot of people only like a happy ending. 605 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.639 It bothers me if it just feels inauthentic, if it feels totally false, 606 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.280 like the ending is something how it could never be. Like someone hates someone 607 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:14.079 and they totally change and they forgive them for absolutely no reason, or there's 608 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:17.199 no connection and suddenly they have a connection and wraps up too easily for me, 609 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.840 when it's inauthentic, that's not a good way to end. So for 610 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.920 me, if the ending is all well, I don't care if it's happier. 611 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.400 And again, you don't know the level of risk that some of these 612 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.920 studios are willing to take is not that high when I'm sure a lot of 613 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:35.960 writers, directors produce just like and then we're gonna do this twist and whoever's 614 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:37.760 writing in the check for that movie or whoever is distributing with that, No, 615 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.519 we're not. We're not doing that. It needs to go like this, 616 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:44.599 this and this. These two characters need to fall in love and that's 617 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.599 it, happily ever after, or we can't put it out because there's a 618 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:52.239 percentage of the of the viewing audience that will, especially in a rotten Tomatoes 619 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.440 yelp world, they'll be like, No, way, that sucked. I 620 00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.360 hated that it didn't give me the whole warm feeling that I need. No, 621 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.079 I think that's definitely true. But I think that some of the ones 622 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:06.559 I picked through these, of course, don't necessarily have appanding because I think, 623 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.280 for me, I think movies should entertain, but it's also good to 624 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:12.559 be educational. It's also good for someone to watch a movie and say, 625 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.920 you know, hey, maybe that could work for me, or that makes 626 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.880 sense. And I'm not the only one that's going through There's a lot of 627 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.239 people think they're failures and if they have a messed up relationship that didn't work 628 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.199 out, it's only happened to them and they feel bad about themselves, and 629 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.119 it could make them feel a little bit better to see, well, it 630 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.840 happens other people too, and maybe I could learn from it and it's not 631 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:30.880 the end of the world. Yeah. I like movies that are like this 632 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:37.320 is the most accurate in capturing real feelings of what goes on in a real 633 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.880 relationship. The angst, the worry, the pain, the stress, the 634 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.400 hope. All of those ingredients to me. But you know, I have 635 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.239 imagination and I can see that not everybody wants that. People are like, 636 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.400 you got two hours of my time, I got my popcorn, I got 637 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.880 my big soda, and you better make me cry and then make me smile. 638 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.400 So I think people should watch Swingers to know they never have to leave 639 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.960 any a woman. Yeah, I know there are lessons to be learned. 640 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.559 I agree with that there's lessons in behavior, but there's there's lessons in feelings. 641 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.000 How you process the movie that I that I that is the opposite of 642 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.760 this, the movie that that I hate in terms of it. It pretends 643 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:21.559 that it is it is dealing with real feelings, but I don't feel it 644 00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:27.760 is. What is the the divorce movie with Vince Vaughan and where the breakup? 645 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.360 The breakup? Yeah, who's the word, Jenniferison Vince On. I 646 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.199 hate that movie. I don't think they would ever be together. I don't 647 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.119 think he's like, it's not fun none of None of it is funny to 648 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.000 me. None of it is like there were no redeeming funny. Yeah, 649 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:46.119 yeah, there are no redeeming qualities in their relationship. You would never want 650 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.840 them to be together or get back together. You know. I don't understand 651 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.039 the appeal to that movie. And I know some people like it because some 652 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.719 people like everything Vincewan does. To me, I liked it not because it's 653 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:58.800 just Vin Swan. I think it was a little bit gutsy. It was 654 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.320 dark. It was not a pleasing normal one. I think it was. 655 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.719 I think he's just a dick, you know. I think he's just like 656 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.039 there's no reading qualities for like video games so much just whatever. I just 657 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.599 thought he was nice to her. I think there was there was really an 658 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.519 underlying feeling of like hate and anger in there that that that I'm just like, 659 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.480 I don't want them. I don't want to see them together. I 660 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.239 don't hope. I do not. There's nothing here that leads me to believe 661 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.159 I hope these two work out. I understand that. I thought it was 662 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.840 a It was a different kind of movie that you see that says you know 663 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:34.760 you can you can be cordial, and that you can you can end things 664 00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.800 and it doesn't have to be the end of the world. I think a 665 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.559 lot of people wanted different things and wanted like amazing high moments, but then 666 00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:44.679 they get back. They like meet at the end, but they not at 667 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.840 the other the end, they just say hi and that's it. I thought 668 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.199 they were like meeting for coffee or somewhere. He's like, I'm thinking, 669 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.519 at the end of the movie, you know their friends and nothing's gonna happen. 670 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:54.920 I think that what I think that movie helped prevent suicides. I think 671 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.760 it was like, you can get divorced and it's not down to the world. 672 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.679 See, I get I thought that it comes back around. Sorry if 673 00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:05.280 you haven't seen, it's been out long enough. No spoilers on the breakup 674 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.480 that we're supposed to believe, like, oh, they see each other again 675 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:13.559 and maybe this will work out now, I think, and then you know 676 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.960 it's not. I think my take was that it's not going to work out, 677 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.159 but that you know, it's not the end of the world, and 678 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:22.840 they'll see other people and don't you know, don't set the at ledge of 679 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.239 the roof, but some people do. I'm sure you know there are people 680 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.719 that are locked in one relationship and ends and they're totally desponded and they feel 681 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.320 they can't go. Well, I'm somebody who doesn't like in Castaway, how 682 00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:37.079 quickly Helen Hunt's character moves on. Well, the volleyball was very sex That 683 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.119 was sexy volleyball. I know he moved on to the volleyball. I want 684 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:43.079 her to wait a little longer. He's only gone like a year. She's 685 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.679 already like remarried. Right, that's a little a little hasty. What's the 686 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.480 how long is it? What's the limit you think when someone could go for 687 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:54.880 the next relationship two months after death one year in full black. That's what 688 00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.440 I would want, uh I. I would just feel bad for the next 689 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.920 guy because the girls is going to be like like, listen, the best 690 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.760 one's gone now I feel bad for I feel bad for my successor. But 691 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.320 I think it's got to be. It's got to be at least a year. 692 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.320 I think it also depends on the circumstance. But yeah, no, 693 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.440 I want a year in full black. Would you want to see Will Ferrell 694 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:22.559 do a comedy where he picks up girls at chanerals? He said he was 695 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.679 gonna do that in one of the films. This guy just says he's gonna 696 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.559 do that. See. Will Ferrell can't be the leading man in a rom 697 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.039 com could be a sidekick. Yeah, He's always got to be the sidekick, 698 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:39.280 Which is weird because could could Will Ferrell have played a similar character because 699 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.679 he does have the acting chops and he does the serious roles. Steve Carrell 700 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.800 has pulled it off. But again, you know, a forty year old 701 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.280 virgin. The girl at the end is a little bit of secondary. It's 702 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:55.719 a bromance. Will Ferrell has done a lot of romances. I don't consider 703 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:04.119 the Anchorman movies to be romances because they're they're so they're playing characters and their 704 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:10.679 ridiculous. Could Will Ferrell play a character similar to Harry met Sally now, 705 00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.000 I think he probably could. I think that's the role picking up chicks at 706 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.719 funerals. It's not a bad movie, though, Yeah, that could be. 707 00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:21.800 I want to see Will Ferrell do that. I think that could be 708 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.599 a hit. I think it could be a hit too. All right, 709 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.800 this is fun. We covered a lot of ground, We gave a lot 710 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.480 of I can't believe you came in here with five hundred days of summer. 711 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.920 I'm the only one who preaches that. People who last time I did this, 712 00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.320 which was years ago, were like, nobody's seen this. Why he 713 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.960 keep talking about it? I love it. I tell everyone in gen Z 714 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.719 go see it. It's very instructive. Goo see it. Watch it. 715 00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:45.599 It's tream it. It's very instructive and help. My favorite movie you know 716 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:53.119 movies enough to know this is I think it was Noah Bombback's first movie, 717 00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:59.079 Kicking and Screaming. Have you ever seen that movie? That is one again? 718 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:00.840 That is a little bit romance, life after college or whatever. But 719 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.199 the way he handles the relationship that he wants to have with is it Olivia 720 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.639 Dabo one of those one of the care It's not even like the major subplot 721 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:12.920 of the movie is just like the Greatest movie for me. I love the 722 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.280 writing of that movie. I like the beats of that movie. I like 723 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.440 everything, not the Will Ferrell kicking and screaming. No Bomback kicking and screaming. 724 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.800 And he co wrote Barbie, I think the main lesson from any ram 725 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.280 coming anything is that people should learn in all their relationships at least take a 726 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.280 little accountability. It's not one hundred percent of the other person's fault. It's 727 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.679 at least maybe five percent your fault. At least. All right, tell 728 00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.639 everybody where they can find you, and film fury, all right, film 729 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:38.960 free podcasts. You can check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And 730 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:43.480 my name is Alan Zeitlin. Check me out on line and hope you enjoy 731 00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.800 it. Thank you. This was fun. I like doing this a little 732 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.880 lighter than some of the subjects we have recently gotten into around here. We 733 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.119 got a new batchel of listener letters coming up, not the next episode of 734 00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:57.320 the episode after that, so coming down the pike, please shoot us an 735 00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.800 email. Great love debatedmail dot com for me Alan or anything else you want 736 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:02.639 to talk about or to give feedback on, or tell us how much you 737 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.199 loved five hundred days of Summer. Please like, share, follow, and 738 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:12.159 review this podcast and film Fury. After all of this time ten years or 739 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:16.000 so, your reviews mean a lot in the podcasting ecosystem because, as always 740 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.920 at the Great Love Debate, we never stopped making love. See you next 741 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:31.159 time the Great Love Debate. It's the Great Love Debate. De Great Love 742 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:35.159 Debate. 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