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It's a great storm and I don't
know it. Welcome everybody, here we

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go. It is that time again, Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live

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from the studios of w m n
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downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also
on Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester,

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and hello to all of our online
listeners across an age and around the

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globe. You can go to my
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your live streaming options, social media
links, contact in folk show archives,

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etc. Etc. Today is Tuesday, May sixteen, two thousand twenty three.

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We have an exciting show for you
today coming up in a just a

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few minutes. Hopefully it works out. The last time we had an international

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guest, there was a little bit
of a technical kerfuffle, but it did

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get figured out using Skype, so
we hope for the best. But we

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have another European who's gonna be skyping
in, our new friend, Yuri from

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the band oberdon Or. I'm sorry, Oberon. I keep wanting to put

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a d in there that's not there. It's Oberon. He's gonna be skyping

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in at four or fifteen from Italy, and we'll talk with him for a

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bit. Really like his music.
We played a couple of his songs yesterday.

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In fact, yesterday I opened the
show with a song called Time to

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Sleep Part one, and the one
that you just heard was Time to Sleep

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Part two. I feared that would
be an appropriate opener for today, and

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we'll play something else of his later
as well. So he's gonna be joining

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us again. Good Lord William and
the creek sn't rise. That's an expression

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I've heard, So that'll be uh
coming up at four fifteen. And then

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in the second hour today, we're
going to be joined in studio by Steve

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Laughey, who is a a Republican
presidential candidate, one you might not have

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heard of. You know, we
hear about you know, we hear about

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Donald Trump, and we hear about
Ron DeSantis and some others. But Steve

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Laughey, he's a former mayor of
Cranston, Rhode Island, and he's gonna

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be joining us in studio today and
we'll talk with him. He also used

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to host a radio show, so
I'm interested in asking him about that as

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well. But so busy show today, lots lots to do, but I

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also want to mention too. Jenny
is in the chat room and says shalom

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peeps from Washington, d C.
Yes, Jenny is in Washington, d

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C. Right now. She landed
there safely, and we'll be testifying later

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today. I think it's gonna she
said. It's supposed to stream on the

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official Senator Bernie Sanders facebook page.
She's gonna testify in the for the or

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give her a presentation or speech,
which she did rehearse and I think it's

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excellent. So I think I know
she's gonna do great and I can't wait

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to see the video. But that
will be happening this evening and then so

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she'll be flying back tomorrow. She's
gonna stay in Washington, DC overnight.

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So very proud of her. She's
doing a great job, great work that

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she's doing. So I can't wait
to hear all about her trip, that's

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for sure. So great weather for
it, at least it is here,

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although here it looks like it could
there could be thunderstorms. I don't know,

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but so far the weather has been
nice, little humid, but I

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don't mind it. I don't mind
it at all. So anyway, so

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we have a couple of great guests
coming up today on the program. Let's

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go ahead and say hello everybody quickly. In the Facebook live chat, Jenny,

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I did mention, is in there. Also our friend Melanie Liberty from

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the great state of Vermont joins us. Also Jay Fed, also from Vermont

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joins us. And Ronda Favero all
the way from California says greetings, Hello

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Ronda. Melanie says good luck Jenny, and Jay Fed says great job.

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Jen Coffee. Yes, absolutely absolutely
we should mention today too. So their

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meeting again today for a debt limit
discussion, and it looks like Biden is

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going to be cutting his trip a
little bit short overseas. We'll know more,

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I mean, honestly, we'll probably
know before the show is over today.

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You know, if you remember the
last time that they met, it

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was a relatively brief meeting. I
think it was over before the end of

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the show, and I'm concerned that
today might be similar. I would really

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like to see them get this done. I did see this pop up on

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Political Centrist Democrats are plotting to a
save McCarthy strategy for the debt limit if

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the Speaker cuts a deal that alienates
conservatives, some Democrats are willing to help

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save his gavel. Now this is
interesting. It says here, Kevin McCarthy

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faces a clear challenge as he tries
to strike a debt limit deal, and

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he compromise he makes with President Joe
Biden risks sparking a conservative rebellion aimed at

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ending his speakership. Remember part of
what uh you know, the deal that

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McCarthy had to make. So finally, on the I think the fifteenth attempt

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he could get enough votes to make
him speaker. He had to really give

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away quite a bit. And I
think it only takes uh did it get

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down to one in the final deal? I think it only takes one Republican

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congressman to call for a vote to
oust Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker. So

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it says here some Democrats have a
plan to spare him. And why would

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they do that? Of course,
well to get the debt limit raised.

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You know, if you can get
I mean this is this would be kind

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of an end run around the you
know, they used to be the Tea

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Partiers. Now we call them the
House Freedom Caucus. The Republican members of

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Congress who either want very deep cuts
in the budget before they'll agree to a

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debt limit raising, or they would
rather just say a default, you know,

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which apparently is a former President Trump's
position, as he discussed in the

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CNN town hall, might as well
default, which I think is insane.

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So it says you're a small group
of moderate Democratic lawmakers have quietly reassured its

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House GOP counterparts that it can help
protect McCarthy's gavel if his right flank revolts

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over a debt agreement. According to
two people familiar with the discussions, if

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Conservatives responded to a McCarthy Biden deal
by forcing a full House vote on ousting,

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the California Republican Democrats say they have
enough members to help block it,

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keeping him in power quote will protect
him if he does the right thing,

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said one of the House Democrats involved
in the talks, who requested anonymity because

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of the ongoing debt negotiations. That
democrat added that McCarthy himself has been briefed

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on the discussions. It's a polarizing
strategy for those centrists to entertain and private

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with other Democrats, let alone admit
to planning to deploy and senior Republicans dismiss

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the likelihood the gambit would come to
pass. That's because it's not clear that

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Conservatives would try to depose a speaker
even if he edges away from the position

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he's staked out on the debt limit, and should they try to. Republicans

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from McCarthy's camp on down insist there
can be no Democratic bailout. Well,

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ultimately, he'll do what he has
to do to hang on to his disposition

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as Speaker. McCarthy's spokesperson Mark Bednar
said in a statement, quote, the

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Speaker has never heard of this garbage, has zero interests in it, and

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thinks Democrats would be better off focusing
on doing the jobs they were elected to

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do. Unquote. Well, of
course he has to say that, because

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even if, even if there have
been discussions, even if even if there

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have been discussions directly with McCarthy himself, he can't admit that right when some

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Democrats floated a similar offer to then
Speaker John Bayner in twenty thirteen, similar

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during a similar fiscal fight with the
GOP. Within the GOP, he later

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decided to resign rather than lean on
his opponents to keep the gavel. However,

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its potential insurance for McCarthy and a
sign of the growing sense of desperation

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on the Hill as the White House
and congressional leaders raced toward a debt I'm

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sorry, I race toward a deal
to avert an an economy rattling debt crisis

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in the coming weeks. Those who
revealed the conversations on condition of anonymity declined

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to name who's leading them, But
chatter about the protect McCarthy idea is growing

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across the Democratic Caucus, and it's
perhaps the loudest in the bipartisan problem Solvers

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Caucus. Well, that absolutely makes
sense, and it's okay, so Democrats

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in the problem solvers And if you
don't know the Problem Solvers Caucus is a

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bipartisan well I guess actually, well, I guess it's it's actually House members.

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I'm sorry. You know, uh, Whenever, whenever Republicans and Democrats

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do work together in a bipartisan fashion
and some sort of official or quasi official

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capacity, it has to have a
name. Very often it's referred to as

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a gang of something like there was
the Gang of six, the Gang of

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eight, the Problem Solvers Caucus.
I think it's a good thing. You

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know, you want to have you
want to have people working together to solve

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problems. Imagine that Democrats in the
Problem Solvers Caucus, which has a reputation

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for attempting to back channel during high
level talks, are specifically looking to counterbalance

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the influence of the roughly forty ultraconservative
Republicans in the Freedom Caucus with their own

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members forty of them by the way, forty ultraconservative Republicans and the Freedom Caucus.

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So that's a lot of people who
either think we should go ahead and

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default, and that is the stated
position of some of them, hopefully not

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many of them, but who either
think we should default or we need deep,

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deep cuts in the budget. The
group includes thirty two Democrats. Not

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all of them are involved in the
talks about backing McCarthy on a so called

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motion to vacate the speakership, but
their numbers are nearly enough to neuter the

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threat from the right. Members of
the Problem Solvers have privately discussed the idea

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for months, though conversations have become
less theoretical as debt talks advanced in recent

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days, according to both people involved
in the conversations, Even outside of that

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moderate group, however, senior Democrats
have also been floated the protect McCarthy idea,

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even raising it for party leaders,
according to three other people familiar with

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those conversations, and they said some
Democrats have suggested the House Minority Leader Hakim

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Jeffries that he used it as leverage
over the speaker in the debt negotiations.

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Jeffries insisted that any game planning for
a potential GOP move to topple McCarthy should

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play no part in the debt debate. Quote. No, I don't think

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that the two are connected at all, unquote he said in a brief interview.

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Well again, though, even if
he knows about it and he thinks

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it's a good idea, he can't
say that. No one can say anything

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out loud about this until it happens, or the whole thing will blow up.

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Hello to DJ Steve, who joins
us in the Facebook live chat.

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And Melanie made a comment that I
can't read on the air, but let's

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just say she sounds like she thinks
Kevin McCarthy is in a big heap of

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trouble. I think the young people
say that heap of trouble. It says

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here, and Republicans are already rejecting
the notion of a Democratic salvage mission for

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McCarthy. Should he and Biden an
ink pact that alienates conservatives. Representative Chip

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Roy, Republican of Texas, who, by the way, was one of

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the early early members of early Republicans
in Congress to come out and endorse Ron

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de Santis to over Trump. He
got out, He got out there early

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and did that. He's an interesting
guy, Chip Roy. He said,

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quote, we're not talking about all
that stuff. Republicans remain united. We're

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not going to negotiate against ourselves.
Unquote. Melanie in the chat room says,

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thanks, Matt. I thought big
heap of trouble would be inappropriate to

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say in the chat I hate to
be inappropriate in here, I know,

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Melanie. Yes, you can say
big heap of trouble, big heap of

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trouble. Just don't as long as
you don't say it in an aggressive tone,

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because then people get nervous. They're
like, oh, when you say

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big heap of trouble, is that
directed at me? I'm gonna have a

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big heap of trouble. Nobody wants
a big heap of trouble. Whether it's

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a big heap of small heap of
heaping helping. Nobody wants trouble, Uri,

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is that you? Sorry? Yeah, of course, oh but there

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is I think that there isn't the
video for you. Yeah, there's no

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video. We're strictly audio with this. Okay, sorry, okay, Yeah,

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no worries. Hey, I'm just
glad we were able to connect.

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Sometimes, uh, when it's uh, when we're crossing continents with Skype,

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it doesn't always work on the first
try. We had a band uh skype

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in from Germany a couple of weeks
ago, and uh it took a few

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times to get it to work.
So that happens. But uh, yeah,

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but I'm happy. I'm happy to
talk to you. We featured some

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of your music. Yes, yes, much for the interview and for giving

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me the opportunity to to be there, So thank you so much. Oh,

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happy to do it. How do
you announced your last name? Christians

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you But don't worries, Yuri is
fine, You're good, okay, very

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good, very good. Yeah,
sorry for my English because I'm yeah,

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you know, I'm Italian. So
yeah, no worries, no worries.

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Can I can I understand you?
Can? I can understand you? Fine?

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Okay, okay, absolutely so.
Um so, we've been playing some

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of your music. We played some
yesterday and it got a really got a

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really great response from the audience.
And I opened with one of your songs

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today too, the tracks from Oberon. Am I saying that correctly you're your

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band? Yeah? Yeah, this
is correct. Yeah, it's correct.

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Yeah. Now in in Oberon?
Is that do you do everything or do

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you have other musicians who you work
with? Well, it's a it's a

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project of mine. So it's basically
I compose all the music and uh and

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then with other musicians we can uh
yeah. We we played in the studio

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and uh yeah. But basically I
compose all the music and then I share

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it with with other musicians and uh
yeah that's it basically. Um So,

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Well, in that album the Sleep
Producers Monsters, I played guitar and then

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other people played bass, guitar,
drums and organs. But I I I

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composed all the music. So yeah, okay, uh do you has it

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been that way from the beginning with
that that project? You you write everything

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yourself? Or are there any co
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all you? Yeah? No,
No, I write I read everything by

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by myself. So yeah, it's
it's my project, and then I share

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the music with with other musicians and
then uh yeah, we we record them,

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we record the music and then uh
uh yeah. Basically that that it's

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a mind it's a project of mind. So it's a like a solo solo

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project, but with occasional musicians that
play the past for me that I can't

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play maybe or something like that.
So it's um yeah, it's it's a

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solo project, but with other musicians
involved. So yeah, okay, um,

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Now, everything that I've listened to
so far of that project is instrumental.

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Are are there any tracks with vocals
or do you strictly do instrumental?

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Well, we we recorded two albums
at the moment, and the first the

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first one is with a uh um
yeah, with a singer, a female

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singer, and the second one is
instrumental. So the Sleep Producers mosters is

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the instrumental is an instrumental album.
And yeah, during this year, I've

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recorded another album and in which I
will I will sing. So I am

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the new I hope so and the
new the new singer of the of the

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project. Oh so very good,
very good. Yeah. Yeah basically that

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so it's a it's an evolving project
and uh yeah, I like to,

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you know, to to evolve myself
and to evolve my my music into and

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try different things, you know,
so from instrumental music and the next album

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is more like Pink Floyd but more
more jazz and more a little bit more

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problems. So it's a you know, trying different stuff and uh, um

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yeah. Basically that it's it's an
evolving project. So it's like the progressive

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rock. H the I don't know
how to say, sorry, it's like

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the you know that. Um it. It can be a challenge to describe

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your own us. Yeah, well
yeah it is, it is, actually

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it is. It is a challenge. So I try to to evolve myself

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and to to try to try different
things and uh and go on with this

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with this kind of of thinking,
of of of way of thinking, so

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like like his progressive rock, so
to to go to go further and further.

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So yeah, basically do you I
I have I have to ask you,

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uh this. Um so we've been
playing these tracks from from the newest

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release, The Sleep Produces Monsters,
which obviously is a reference to Nightmares.

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Is that something or I assume is
that something that you've had a problem with

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do you do you have a lot
of nightmares? Do you have difficulties sleeping?

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What? What? What? What
was it that inspired this? Yeah,

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well it was inspired by the by
a lot of things, I think,

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because the way of right a concept
album is more is a personal way.

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So there are a lot of things
in but yeah, there are there

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are a lot of point of view, I think, so, uh,

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you know, and I don't want
to to give an answer to that question

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because I think that in art there
are no answers. So I think that

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you know, um, every people
has to to give an answer to uh,

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to what he sees, to what
he's listening to. So but yeah,

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it's like, yeah, it was
a troubled period for me, and

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I wrote this, uh this album
to you know, like, um,

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you know, to like a way
of of of escapism from from the reality

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see and yeah, to me,
it's a very personal album. So um,

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yeah, you know, it's a
different it's it's a different questions so

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sure, and yeah, it's it's
a way of of escapism from from a

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difficult period and yeah, in my
life, so yeah, okay, it's

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it's not so related to nightmare to
nightmares but I think it's related to nightmares

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in real life. Uh yeah,
you know, I think that you can

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hear it from the from the tunes
with especially with guitars, because it's very

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guitar, a guitar driven album,
so you know, so that this kind

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of guitar, fuzzy guitar, it's
very impactful. I think. So yeah,

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I think you can hear it on
the on the records. I hope

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so, yes, yes, um. And I noticed in your bio that

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you sent us you said something about
you you don't like to necessarily put limits

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on what you're doing musically. You
you keep it. Uh so does that

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mean when when you approach these songs, do you not necessarily say okay,

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I want it to sound like this. Is it more kind of an exploratory

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thing where you're just seeing where it
leads you when you start writing. Yeah,

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for sure, definitely like this.
I think that, Yeah, I

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don't have limits, and I don't
I don't want limits, and it's a

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it's another thing that and I I
love music and I love to work like

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that, and I also love I
think you're you read it in my bio.

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I love the I love the fact
that I'm starting composing music for films,

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and and yeah, it's it's another
territory, it's another um, you

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know, a place to experiment in
any ways, so I think it's great

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because you don't have any limits.
And and also in my personal music,

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I don't want any limits, you
know, like a verse you know two

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verse chorus obviously, and you know
the bridge and other chorus and other verse,

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you know, something like, I
want to be free and without limits

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in that um when I'm compusing music. So yeah, it's like that with

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composing for a soundtrack? Is that
a big adjustment in the in the sense

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that it's not just your vision that
you have to be concerned with, but

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also what the film is is that
is it difficult to kind of change your

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approach or or maybe your approach doesn't
change very much. I don't know,

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but it is the process much different. Well it's not that different, but

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but at the same time it is. So it depends on your on your

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on your sensibility, I think,
and you know, oh yeah, I

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think it depends on your sensibility because
composing music for I love I love composing

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music for films, and I love
that the way the music work with with

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images, and yeah, I think
it's it's easier for me also because when

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I compose music for my for my
project, for my albums, I start

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visualizing some some images and then trying
and then trying to compose music for that

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for that specific situation or something like
that. So it always starts in my

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mind with, yeah, with a
sort of a film or or a short

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images or or something like that.
But um, you know we are we

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are always looking for um, yeah, for for for this spiration. I

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think that you can find it on
the on the feelings on the or on

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our images. But yeah, I
think it's easier for me. Also.

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Okay, okay, how many how
many films have you have you written for

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and recorded for so far? Well, I've done a future film and about

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I think six or seven short films. So yeah, so you're not bad.

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Yeah, So it sounds like you're
you're doing more of that than than

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writing your own years. Yeah,
and the last few years I'm doing so

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much more U soundtracks instead of playing
or composing for my project. But because

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I'm recording my my next album for
the Oberall project, I'm yeah, it's

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like three years I'm recording it due
to the COVID situation or other problems.

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But I've just finished it and maybe
the next year will come out, so

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I hope so and uh yeah,
but yeah, it takes time. Yeah,

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fortunately, it takes time. Yeah, but I'm happy with the results.

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So hope. Oh yeah, I
think that the next year will come

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out another album for for the Oberon
project. So yeah. And do you

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have any um plans to tour with
Oberon or have you been touring well at

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the moment, No, because uh, basically I'm I'm a solo artist with

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friends that helped me when I have
to to record music. And uh but

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maybe, you know, I don't
know, in the future, sure,

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maybe the next album will will be
uh, I don't know, will be

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better or could give me the possibility
to to tour or to to do some

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you know, some some events or
some festivals or I don't know. But

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you know, I'm I think I'm
more an oriented, a studio oriented person.

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So at the moment, I'm I'm
constructing myself to compose music and to

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to produce new albums. But maybe
I I think that there's a possibility and

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we will see the next year maybe, So yeah, I hope, So

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yeah, obviously. Yeah, absolutely
absolutely, um Uri, thank you,

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thank you so much for for skyping
in in with us. It's it's wonderful

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to uh talk with you. And
um, I want to ask you too,

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do you have new um, do
you have a new obviously you know

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you're always working on soundtrack music,
but yeah, um, any idea when

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your next Oberon release will be or
is that well is that half away is

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a bit? I'm working on releasing
some new singles on the next few months,

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so uh, I think that maybe
maybe on the alpha of the next

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year, a new album will come
out okay Lee and yeah, and two

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more albums for my projects for my
soundtrack projects. So yeah, I'm working

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on a lot of things and U
I can't wait to share with to share

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them to to the people that can
listen to to my music too, because

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I would love to to start working
on something new again. So you know,

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it's a yeah, I I would
love to. I always love to

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to produce new music. So I
can't wait to uh yeah, to release

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to release it, and I hope
to do so in the next few few

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months or maybe at the beginning of
the next year. Sure great, well,

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whenever you do, we'd love to
have you back. Like I said,

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we've we've been playing thank you so
much. We've yeah, we've been

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playing you on the show and and
to great response. And uh, in

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fact, in a moment, I'm
gonna work, I'm gonna go. When

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we finish our conversation, I'm gonna
go back in time a little and play

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something from the Mountain of Fate.
Uh oh, thank you. Yeah,

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that'll that that'll be fun to listen
to. UM, listen to how it

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all started, this track, sailing
Oblivion. Okay, thank you so much.

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Really, it's a it's a really
great thing for me. And thank

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you for so much for your support. Absolutely, Urie. Before you go,

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what should what should listeners know about
where to find you online to keep

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up with your music and everything that
you're doing where they can. They can

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reach me out on Instagram for sure, okay, or Facebook at you know,

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the the Auberon page or uriqus that
is my personal uh Instagram okay,

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and also on Spotify for for the
for listening to the trucks that at the

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least, and yeah x excellent and
of course you're on band camp as well,

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and yeah, yeah for sure,
camp every everywhere, everywhere, Um,

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very good, very good. Well, Uri again, thank you so

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much for skyping in today all the
way from Italy. This has been wonderful.

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We will definitely, absolutely, we
will definitely talk with you again when

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you have some some new music and
I look forward to hearing it and I

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wish you continued success. Thank you
so much, thank you so much so

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for the for the opportunity. Absolutely
absolutely our pleasure. All right, Yuri,

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thank you, take care, Thank
you so much, take care,

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you got it, bye bye bye. All right, wonderful. That was

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our new friend, Yuri, all
the way from Italy, and I'm glad

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that worked out with Skype. I'll
tell you when it's when it when it's

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a call coming in from Europe.
It never works, It never works the

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first time. But we got there. We gotta figured out outstanding. So

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we will finish off the segment with
um this track from the first Oberon album,

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Uh, Mountain of Fate, and
this is what the singer that he

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was talking about that he had on
this um Uh. This is called Sailing

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Oblivion. And then we'll come back
and I think uh actually shortly our guests

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are our number two Numero doos guests
should be arriving. But we'll see,

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so after the song we might have
him here, or it might be a

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few minutes and we'll we'll get into
some other stuff in the interim show,

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some left to our sponsors and so
forth. But but here it is.

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This is sailing oblivion from Oberon.
Here on Matt Connerton Unleashed. Check this

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out. I really like what this
guy's doing. Welcome back, everybody.

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From what I read, so,
I was delighted to see that that

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you are a brother in broadcast.
I love it. Yeah, it's yeah.

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Well, I do want to ask
you about that. Um. I

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was I was reading up on you, and obviously you know, we'll talk

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about your presidential campaign and all that. But UM, a couple of things

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as I was reading about you that
I said I definitely have to ask him

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about this. One is is um
when you were on the air in Providence

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and um, and the other is
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Uh, you're also an author.
We should mention, UM, I have

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not read the book that you've written
yet, but it is I'm going to

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put it on my reading list.
About your your center, well, uh,

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the title really got my attention,
and UM, I love that kind

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of stuff, and you know I'm
a political junkie, so UM, so

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I want to ask you about that
too. And Elizabeth Dole got involved apparently

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all that from what I was reading
online. But I do want to read

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the book and then you know,
hopefully you'll come back in the future and

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that after after I've had a chance to

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now are you? Um? Are
you going to be on the ballot in

409
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New Hampshire? Is that I was
the first person to take on Donald Trump

410
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,960
February first I announced, and uh, listen, the nation just refuses to

411
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,440
directly confront these problems, giant problems. I mean, if I get one

412
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,639
more email from another Republican, tell
me all Democrats a Marxis send the money,

413
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,039
I'm gonna throw up. We need
serious people, and the time is

414
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,079
right for a financial expert, me
who has my unique background we can get

415
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,920
into. Yeah, yeah, to
fix these problems. I don't really do

416
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,880
anything but fixed problems. I mean
fix, like really fix and make people

417
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,960
vote my way. That's what I
do. Do you feel that Donald Trump

418
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,840
is un serious? Yes, and
I think it's been even well what happened

419
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,320
last Wednesday. We don't have to
get into all his stuff, but yeah,

420
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,280
you know, it's just it's not
serious stuff. Yeah, you're you're

421
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,440
afraid of the town hall? I
mean really, people laughing when he's talking

422
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,920
about it of a women who I
don't know anything about. I don't know,

423
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,280
really, I don't pay much attention
to it. But you know,

424
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,039
Pete, what's the what's who?
They're not my fellow Republicans in the order.

425
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:14,880
Yeah, yeah, you know.
I mean we haven't been a serious

426
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,159
country for many, many years,
but certainly not on the bush Obama,

427
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,920
Trump or Biden. We've spun out
of control. And I hate to say,

428
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,159
we'd love to have Bill Clinton backs. We can get some kind of

429
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,639
a balanced budget, but but the
debt, the debt now is simply too

430
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:34,320
big. And so my background is
just we get into a by background is

431
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,360
unique. I wanted to mention you
mentioned Bill Clinton, and do you know

432
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,559
Greg Moore from the New Hampshire's Chapter
of Americans for Prosperity. No, I

433
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,039
don't, I haven't. He's um. You'll probably meet him at some point.

434
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:50,039
Uh, he's been on the show. He hasn't been on in a

435
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:51,800
long time. I haven't seen him
in a long time. But I remember

436
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,320
him saying something once about Uh.
He said that Bill Clinton was actually the

437
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,480
last fiscally conservative president that we ever
had, you know, because he did

438
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:05,079
leave us with a balance budget and
a surplus actually um and uh, you

439
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:09,280
know, and then of course w
came in and we went to war and

440
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,559
didn't win everything with you know Bush
in the second Bushes. We went to

441
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,719
war, but we didn't win immediately
like it went on for years. It

442
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,639
was the first, by the way, in my US Senate race, and

443
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,760
No. Six, I was the
first Republican to call for Don Rumsfeld's resignation.

444
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,880
Kidd, and I got all this
national attention, but I didn't realize

445
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,000
that was the first one. I
mean, I must say, now that

446
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,079
I look back at some of these
things, how was I the first one

447
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,360
to do this? Like it was
a It was a terrible job. Right.

448
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:39,239
It's the same thing with the Federal
Reserve today. We need their resignations,

449
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,280
Like Matt, if you're in a
business and you're off by a factor

450
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,119
of four or outside three standard deviations
of normalcy, like they want inflation at

451
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,280
two, but it ran at eight
for a year and a half. I

452
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,480
mean, in June of twenty twenty
one, the head of the Fed says

453
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
it's going to run it three and
a half. By the end of the

454
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,880
year it's seven point four. These
are like, and you don't have to

455
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:04,599
we don't have to fire you.
You need to come in with your residence.

456
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,000
And they don't. There's no apology. The middle class people out walking

457
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:12,360
the streets I see today. You
know, spent four thousand dollars more on

458
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,119
energy course last years. And by
the way, just so people know,

459
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:19,840
when inflation finally ends, whatever that
is, whenever the Paul Voker shows up

460
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,559
again. Um, they don't.
They don't send you the money back they

461
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:27,119
took. They took it. It's
gone true. Anyway, Well let me

462
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,760
ask you. I do have questions
about your background and um so, uh

463
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,719
yeah, tell me about you hosted
a show and it was in Providence,

464
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,920
correct, Yeah, radio show,
weekly show. So when you time my

465
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:44,559
quickly my just my real background.
I'm a relatively poor kid from Cranston,

466
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:46,719
Rhode Island, who at eighteen went
to went to Bowden College up in Maine.

467
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,719
I'm from Rhode Island, so pretty
you know. I've been in New

468
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,599
Hampshire hundreds of times. Yeah,
yeah, I've been at ruggles minds with

469
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:55,440
kids. I've been there when I
was a kid. Right. So I

470
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:58,880
ended up at Howard Business School at
the age of twenty two. Okay,

471
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,639
I was a directed man. I
graduate. I spent most of my career,

472
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:04,199
almost all my career, in the
financial field. This is the key.

473
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,079
I helped run a financial firm,
the largest one in the South.

474
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,039
I was the president, the chief
operating officer. I started and ran the

475
00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:13,719
venture capital operation. All this was
successful. We sold the firm for seven

476
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,159
hun eighty five million dollars when Alan
Morgan, wonderful man, the CEO,

477
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,079
my power of convention. We convinced
him in an hour. I did to

478
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,639
sell a firm he was never going
to sell because it was best for the

479
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,199
shareholders. It was best for him, but it wasn't best for me in

480
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,159
a sense. I left. I
went to Stovermont. I was going to

481
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:34,920
start a hedge fund. Should have
maybe went to Loon Mount, but I

482
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,199
went to Stovermont and so and so. I just had this vision I should

483
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:40,519
go to Cranston. My wife who
was with me today, and some of

484
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:45,039
our kids we went the next day. Yeah, and Cranston went bankrupt.

485
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,280
Cranston around effectively didn't declare bankruston because
I became the mayor, but it was

486
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,599
borrowing three month money at fifteen percent, the worst bond rating in the United

487
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,519
States of America. The day before
I was elected, nobody knew who I

488
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:00,599
was. When I came home,
I hadn't been home in twenty years,

489
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:04,679
eighteen to thirty eight. And we
fixed it in the most rapid financial turnaround.

490
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:07,760
And while I was doing that,
I taught the top finance course at

491
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,320
the University of Rhode Island. Heard
the word finance like I know money.

492
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,840
This is what I do, and
that's why the time is right Like this.

493
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,719
In the seventies, the time was
right for Jimmy Carter to become president.

494
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,920
He was mister clean. He was
a really good guy. I mean,

495
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,480
things overcame him as presidency and so
forth. But but after Watergate,

496
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:28,679
but in November seventy five, people
didn't know who he was, right,

497
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:34,679
and so I decided, this is
my time, we should we should mention

498
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,360
two. You won reelection in Cranston
right with the widest margin in Cranston's history.

499
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,199
Fairly conservative, populace, Republican and
the most democratic state. You know,

500
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:46,760
maybe you're not Vermont, but hardcore, you know, stay hard to

501
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,559
get elected as a Republican. No
statewide elected officers have been elected since I

502
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,000
left. So after I laughed,
you know, and I ran for the

503
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,559
US Senate in oh six and it
was the biggest race in the country.

504
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,599
That's why I have a big book
deal with Pegwood Books, and my book

505
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,719
Primary Mistake is still read by many
people, especially when they get ready to

506
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,519
run. Yeah. I get calls
from people over the country or friends,

507
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:08,360
Hey, this guy's running for government, this guy's running for House of Representatives.

508
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Just read your book. Is it
really liked it? I'm like,

509
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:15,360
yeah, really it really was like
that. So the NAT I am the

510
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,840
only elected Republican to be attacked when
running for higher office. According to Craig

511
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,239
Shirley, Reagan's biographer, he wrote
an article about No. Six. Yeah,

512
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,599
to be attacked by the National Republican
Party, that's me, Steve laughing.

513
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,119
Okay, they preferred a person who
was far to the left of Nancy

514
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,679
Pelosi in a Republican primary. If
you're in a Democratic primary, like looks

515
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,519
good in Rude Island. But Lincoln
chaffing. Yeah, they attacked being with

516
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:42,480
millions of dollars us. He's an
odd guy. And yeah, he's a

517
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,840
very very odd guy. By the
way, he couldn't be a nice guy.

518
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,280
If you talk about horses. I
know, I've heard, I've heard.

519
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,599
I've never met him. I'ford he
is very nice, but just I

520
00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:52,159
just, uh, he seems odd. Yeah, stop talking to him about

521
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,199
Listen, he ran for president.
He wanted to do the metric system.

522
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,840
I'm running for presidents to fix social
security. Remember, so it's a vast

523
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,840
different you know, I have these
five things that have to be done to

524
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,719
fix the country. We can talk
about yeah, but no seven and after

525
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,280
I lost, I wrote a book
and it's that's what happened. And in

526
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,840
twenty ten I told the people of
Rhode Island, really, and I say

527
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,320
this very seriously, you really only
want me Rhode Island, where I'm from,

528
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,880
if you have a financial problem and
you want to fix it. Christon

529
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,000
did Rhode Island doesn't. I'm on
my way. I moved to four Collins,

530
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,719
Colorado, and I raised I have
six children, by the way,

531
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,599
Yeah, and so I have a
unique background in education where I've homeschooled my

532
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:35,400
own children and healthcare. I homeschooled
them because my daughter came down with stage

533
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,559
four cancer. That's the way.
For eight or nine yeads. You haven't

534
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:39,679
heard from me. Okay, my
beautiful wife here. She went to the

535
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,920
hospital for two hundred nights a year
at the Child's hospital, and she's alive.

536
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,039
By daughter. She's graduating from bu
grad school a week, no,

537
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,639
not a week in five days on
Saturday. She's still let's cancer. If

538
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:55,480
you just go to Steve Laughey dot
com and you read some of my substacks,

539
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,239
the person who corrects that is Sarah
Grace laughing. He's alive. She's

540
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,840
twenty six, She's going to get
married, but she still has cancer.

541
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:07,880
The brave person. So I've seen
five to seven million dollars of healthcare cross

542
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,719
crossed my desk, which I didn't
have to pay, but a lot of

543
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,880
people do. Yes. So with
my kids, I personally have homeschooled there.

544
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:19,559
The last three are all sophomores at
Kiro State University. One is fifteen

545
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:23,199
years old. He's the youngest admitting
in the school's history because I homeschooled them.

546
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,320
So I know education. I know
what goes on into public schools.

547
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,400
I've dealt with antagonistic school committees.
All these things we can talk about.

548
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,880
But my background is unique to be
able to help the country at this point

549
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,760
and if all I really do is
change the direction of the Republican Party,

550
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,800
So someone takes this seriously rather than
a joke or try to be the mini

551
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Trump and not have answers for people
like you when you come on. But

552
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:52,320
yes, to be directly about two
thousand and five, WPR Row the powerhouse

553
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,159
stationed down there, you know,
wanted me to always have a show.

554
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:59,280
Yeah, and they thought I would
lose my Republican primary for mayor. But

555
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,599
I didn't so the very good people, yea. And I love doing I

556
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:04,960
did lots of radio. I've hosted
for lots of people. I filled in

557
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,360
for people like you all over country. Yeah. I just walking with do

558
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:15,440
shows. Yeah yeah. So I
did the Steve Laughy Show because mister Cass,

559
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,000
who had the biggest show, you
know, the most popular guy,

560
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:21,440
he didn't want he was older,
he didn't want to come in on Friday,

561
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,599
and so I came in. So
the Steve Laughy Show was started.

562
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:29,360
Now, the big story about it, why it was a national story,

563
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:32,760
was that the Democrats, who kind
of run the board of Elections, decided

564
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,079
that I could not have a show. Think about it. I can be

565
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,360
the mayor, I can brush my
teeth right at the same time, I

566
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,159
can have a radio show. I
can write an op ed piece. It's

567
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,159
called free speech. Yeah. But
they were so crazed by what I was

568
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:49,360
talking about in the radio, which
was widely popular. The lines are full

569
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,440
people that either hated me loving me, you know. Yeah. And if

570
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,280
they'd only asked, like Steve,
when are you gonna get off? I

571
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,639
would have said, when I announced
for the US Senate, that's my employe,

572
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,719
I would have told them. Okay. So they sued me, yeah,

573
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,559
to stop me from having a radio
show. And the federal judge in

574
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:07,280
Rhode Island, Judge Leasy, who
didn't wasn't who said she wasn't really up

575
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,760
on the second, you know,
the first Amendment. I don't know how

576
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,039
she get to be a judge,
but she she agreed with them. So

577
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,960
I went to the first Court of
Appeals, one step away from the Supreme

578
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:22,320
Court in two weeks, and in
that ruling, three judges heard the case

579
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:27,400
yeah, and literally said something like
to the other side, Hey, listen,

580
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,280
it's Thursday. It's twelve noon.
By Monday morning, laugh, he's

581
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,159
on the radio. Wow, Okay, we don't want to hear another word

582
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:36,760
about this. Really, Okay.
They basically there's the dumbest thing they ever

583
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,000
heard, and you need to deal
with your murky rules down there. Well,

584
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:42,679
what was what was the grounds under
which they sued he that I'm not

585
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,079
clear on that. I was that
I was actually elected official. Now,

586
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,159
oh, it made no sense.
There were a lot of elected officials,

587
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,199
by the way, Rudy Giuliani had
had a radio show. Yeah, he

588
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,519
was mayor. Lots of people around
the country did yeah, and ran many

589
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:00,000
of the elected officials couldn't talk that
well, so I guess they didn't.

590
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:02,360
But it wasn't unusual in the country, right right, So that was the

591
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,320
case that went to It was all
big national story. But is there an

592
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,440
actual law on the books that they
know? They just made it up.

593
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,480
That's why they slapped them around so
hard. Okay, and just said it

594
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,239
so we don't even want to write
a ruling just he goes back on the

595
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,639
year. If he's not on by
Monday morning, we're gonna have to take

596
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:22,119
another action. Yeah, and so
that and then I got off after a

597
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,360
couple more weeks because I ran for
the US edit. So that was your

598
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,760
So you were intending to when you
announced your sun that was my implicit agreement.

599
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,519
I didn't have to legally get off
then yeah. Yeah. Being the

600
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:36,480
only US Senate candidate, what would
be a big time race, right right.

601
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,159
Wpr Row and I we just sort
implicitly said, I said, listen,

602
00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:40,440
if I go run for higher office, which they knew I was going

603
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,239
to, Yeah, then I'll get
off the week before and I did.

604
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,239
Yeah. Yeah, So that's my
radio that's my radio show. But you

605
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,159
know, the country today needs a
financial expert not a real state developer.

606
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:55,159
We need these. If you're listening
to this show and you're like forty year

607
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,159
under, it must be quite the
thing to get your security fighter thing.

608
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,480
And no, you're not getting it. Like let's say someone out there's making

609
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,480
fifty grands, say they make it
a hundred grands. Whatever they make it,

610
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,199
they make it a hundred grand,
and they're forty. They're getting twelve

611
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,239
grand taken out and they're not gonna
get it. But at Steve Laughy dot

612
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,480
com, we have a complete plan
to fix it, not to like just

613
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:21,440
say we're going to raise the retirement
age like Nicky Haley and she doesn't know

614
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,639
how. She doesn't know anything about
it. Does she set up Yeah?

615
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,360
Okay, but she doesn't know what
to raise it too because she doesn't spend

616
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,280
any time on it. Yeah,
or Donald Trump say I'm not going to

617
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,079
touch it. That just immoral,
financially immoral. The governor of Florida not

618
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:35,559
going to touch it now. When
he was a congressman, he wanted to.

619
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,320
He wanted to hack it. But
we don't need to do either.

620
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,800
We need to modernize its, strengthen
it, especially for the twenty year old

621
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,000
entending the work system they need to
get. By the way, I wrote

622
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,280
a paper about this in economics in
nineteen eighty three. Oh I know about

623
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,079
this like that. The returns have
been terrible for people getting it. So

624
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,239
just remember, if you go to
Steve Laughy dot com, what we're gonna

625
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,559
do. We're gonna take the twenty
year olds and put up in a new

626
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,280
system. Everybody's sixty two, it's
gonna get we promised them, and the

627
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,000
people in between are gonna get,
are gonna get a hybrid some of the

628
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,800
old, some of the new.
But if you're twenty, you're gonna get

629
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,559
five to six, seven times eight
times more. And if we don't do

630
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:15,559
this, sixty one trillion dollars unfunded
liability. Like this is how we fix

631
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:20,599
it. If we don't do it, you're gonna get a check one day,

632
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,679
but it's just gonna be the eighteen
hundred dollars they promised you, and

633
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,159
that letter they sent you, it'll
be eighteen hundred dollars ten years from now,

634
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,360
twenty years from now, it'll just
be three hundred dollars. Is this

635
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,480
um as inflation is what you're proposing. And by the way, I'm bad

636
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:36,960
at math. So if you throw
a number. I mean, you can

637
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,159
throw numbers at me. I might
miss a lot, but the audience is

638
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:42,599
I have a smart audience. Whatever
I don't get that, they'll they'll be

639
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:46,519
able to figure out. But um, are this sounds like tell me if

640
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:52,679
I'm right? Is this um?
Because during the w administration it was briefly

641
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:55,360
talked about, but the idea didn't
really go anywhere at the time. Privatizing

642
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,199
social security? Is that what you're
suggesting, I'm gonna want to privatize it

643
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,480
at all. So let's just take
the twenty year old. We're gonna take

644
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:06,320
ten percent of his pay. We're
gonna put it in a mixture of stocks,

645
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,679
bonds, real estate, everything.
But but isn't that privatization? No,

646
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,559
Okay, he doesn't know, he
doesn't get it. It doesn't go

647
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:15,239
to Charles Shwa. That's that's what
Bush wanted to do. He wanted to

648
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:17,960
privatize it. It lasted six days. Yeah, he only lasted six days,

649
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,679
and he gave us that's because that's
because he didn't have he didn't have

650
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,039
a real progum. He never really
thought it through. So if you take

651
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:28,039
any forty forty five year period,
so let's say your twenty. Here's what

652
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,639
happened. Let's stop with a twenty
year old. He gets to be thirty,

653
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,880
gets married. The sexist nature.
What goes on SoC soci security today.

654
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,679
Listen to this, ladies, when
it was designed, If you're not

655
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,199
married for long enough, you don't
get some of your husband's social security.

656
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,679
Does everybody realize this? If you're
married to someone for five years, yeah,

657
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,679
and he makes a million or the
max and you're staying home raising children,

658
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,559
yeah, you don't get it.
Really, Yeah, you're gonna be

659
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:57,119
married for a certain amount of time, Okay to grab your husband. Now,

660
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,639
it could be the other way around
these days, it could be I'm

661
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:00,960
talking the nineteen fifties. Now,
it could be a woman's work and the

662
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,920
father whatever. But implicitly it was. It's unfair. So let's say now

663
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,880
you get married at thirty and divorced
at forty. You're both exactly thirty.

664
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,079
To make it simple, you split
what you're putting in. Yeah, and

665
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:16,760
when you're divorced, you split it
again. You just don't worry about it.

666
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:22,760
Right now. You die at forty. Unfortunately, your ears get it

667
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,800
doesn't go to the federal government.
But you get to be sixty two.

668
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,639
Now we stop buying annuities with ten
percent of it per year or fifteen percent

669
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:35,360
per year. So when you turn
seventy, everybody who's left it's got a

670
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,960
really large check. It's not privatized. It's in one computer child Schwab,

671
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:45,760
JP, especially JP Morgan. They
never get a hold of it because what

672
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,440
happens in four or one cape lands
with people who are twenty three twenty six

673
00:52:49,639 --> 00:52:52,119
they switched. You know that was
designed when people stayed at IBM for forty

674
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:55,000
straight years and got a golden watch. Oh yeah, those days are gone,

675
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:59,559
and now people are switching jobs and
cashing out right right, and so

676
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,920
what's going to happen. We're gonna
have a giant problem in twenty five thirty

677
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,280
years. So here's the problem or
the problem people could call in about.

678
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:13,039
Can anybody get less mister Laughey maya
laughy, Steve laughy. Yes, the

679
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:16,400
guy who's fifty three who goes into
this system the day we do it.

680
00:53:16,639 --> 00:53:19,800
Yeah, yeah. And by the
way, the difference between me is I'm

681
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,360
actually gonna do this. So at
the end of this thing you might say,

682
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,960
what's the first thing you're gonna do? Steve laughy. I'm gonna do

683
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,039
this, Like people say, I
just talked about it for an hour,

684
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,119
but I'm gonna do this to save
our children, because we sixty year olds

685
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:35,760
have taken way too much from our
kids. So you're fifty three, you

686
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,480
go into the new system, but
you're still getting the old system. Whatever

687
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,639
it said, you're gonna get it. Fifty three, you're gonna get that.

688
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,440
Okay, But you have seven,
ten years, nine years to go

689
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,199
to the new system. Could you
get less? Yes, we could have

690
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,679
nine bad years. Biblically, we
could have seven straight bad Well, I

691
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,559
was gonna say, is there not
an element of risk to this? There's

692
00:53:54,599 --> 00:54:00,519
not really any real By the way, let's compare the risk to stay doing

693
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:02,480
what we're doing when they cut your
check by your third in twenty thirty.

694
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:07,239
Okay, so right, so let's
take the risk that's really there. There's

695
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:14,719
sixty one trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities
double our national debt. So what that

696
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:20,239
means for anybody is that the sixty
one trillion means discounting from to the today.

697
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:23,599
I'm from the future, what we're
taxing and what we say we're gonna

698
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:27,960
pay out. Yeah, the difference
is sixty one trillion. So it's so

699
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,559
it's gonna it's it's imploding in front
of our face, like it's it's over,

700
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:36,559
Like you're not gonna get it,
or they're gonna run inflation so high

701
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:37,760
that, like I say, when
you get it, it won't be worth

702
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,440
anything. So why don't we just
fix it? Well part of the problem

703
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,199
too, if I find it.
And again I'm far from an expert on

704
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:51,719
this, but um, we have
an aging population and obviously and birthrates are

705
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,239
plummeting. Yes, so there's gonna
be just I mean, it's just common

706
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,960
sense. There's going to be more
and more people. And so the reason

707
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:04,159
that we just can't have the future
people getting it from the present people today.

708
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,119
What happens today is that when we
started Social Security nineteen thirty three,

709
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:13,559
a temporary program by Roosevelt right,
never meant to be all your retirement,

710
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:15,599
but say it is, whatever we're
living into today, we're not living in

711
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:20,039
eighteen eighty. I'm talking to my
fellow conservatives now who want to end it.

712
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:22,119
We're not doing that. We're gonna
fix it, we're gonna modernize it,

713
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:27,239
we're gonna make it okay. But
what happens is now there's three workers,

714
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,519
but those three workers are sending the
money directly to Social Security recipients today.

715
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,760
So what's going to happen is that
forty years from now when they erect

716
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,960
a statue in my name because everybody's
got a great, great job, you

717
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,960
know, and social Security is working
out. Really what I'm joking, Okay,

718
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,559
what's going to happen is that the
people who are sixty two today are

719
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:49,320
going to be dead. But the
people today just have their system. We

720
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,199
don't even talk about it anymore.
If they've owned some New Zealand bond,

721
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,800
some real estate, not in Russia
probably, but they own some real estate

722
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,760
in Europe, they own some stocks, they own they own some votes wagon,

723
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,679
they own some all these things together
bonds, they're going to do better

724
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:08,079
than anybody's ever done. They have
unless the world ends, And if the

725
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,440
world ends, we're not going to
talk about it. Right. The world

726
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,079
has ended, right, So there's
no forty year period where this wouldn't have

727
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,519
massively outperformed. Again, I wrote
a paper about eighty three. The numbers

728
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:21,679
I came up with then are still
the numbers today. So that course,

729
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,239
that's not the only thing we have
to do. You know, this inflation.

730
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:29,599
Stuff has to stop. We've got
a situation where the Feder reserve and

731
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:31,199
for people who don't know this,
and again I'm not saying people and everybody

732
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:35,519
spends their time like I do without
it, but there's nobody running for president

733
00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:37,960
who wants to fix the Feder Reserve. Some people want to end it,

734
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:43,079
but we're not going to end I
hear in libertarian circles. I I often

735
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:49,039
hear about audit the phrase we should
all that stuff. Rand Paul talk about

736
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:52,159
it, and Rand Paul is correct, and I would prefer a gold standard.

737
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:55,360
But the first step to get back
to some sense of normalcy is for

738
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,320
the FED to only concentrate on inflation
and keep it at zero one goal.

739
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,119
Right now, they have what we
call a dual mandate. It's really one

740
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:07,599
long paragraph, but people refer to
it as a dual bandit because the FED,

741
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,360
starting in the late sixties seventies,
used to just do inflation, but

742
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,920
then they put in that they should
try to keep employment high or unemployment low.

743
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,519
They call full employment. Yeah,
well, folks, they have like

744
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,159
not to get into algebra two and
bore people. But if you can remember

745
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:30,079
back to algebra one, they were
like these three unknowns and two equations,

746
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:35,559
and you couldn't solve They can't solve
that problem. And so what's been happening.

747
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,679
We've had way worse situations because the
FED has been worried about employment and

748
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,800
inflation. The people worried about unemployment
have to be the people in Congress.

749
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,440
What they've done is handed their power
to the FED, and that's why they've

750
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,920
never called for their resignations. They've
handed the power of fiscal power to the

751
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:59,320
FED Reserve. So if the Fed
Reserve is only worried about inflation and the

752
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,239
job was to keep it at zero, and I can get seventeen people from

753
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:05,239
my high school buddies to do this, yeah, it's not Listen, it's

754
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,639
not that hard. Are there are? I don't want to quote the Taylor

755
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,239
rule from John Tanuel at Stanford.
There's lots of ways that we know about

756
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,079
money supply to keep inflation at zero. But when you also worried about employment,

757
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,920
you let inflation run too hard.
That's what happened in twenty twenty.

758
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,960
They were worried about a collapse.
They should not have been. They should

759
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,840
have been keeping inflation at zero.
Well, but in twenty twenty, I

760
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,480
mean that was such a I mean, you know, the pandemic just I

761
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:31,960
like to say it. You know, it took the puzzle and just threw

762
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,360
all the pieces in the air we
were in. It should have been the

763
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,920
FETs problem to overreact about employment.
It should have been the Senators and House

764
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,559
of Representatives people if they wanted to
do something, if they wanted to backstop

765
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:47,880
unemployment, which is all they really
had to do, they didn't. They

766
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,239
did much more. The PPP program
is full of nothing but fraud. There

767
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:58,199
are law firms in New England who
each partner got fifty six thousand dollars oh

768
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,880
yeah, yeah, and so they
did that. And Donald Trump signed that,

769
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:05,559
and I was against all of that. But the governor of Florida was

770
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:07,960
for it. Nikki Haley was for
it. The President was for it.

771
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,880
Vice President Pence was for it,
like Pompeia was for They were all for

772
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,320
it because a very quick and easy
thing to get their friends money. Really

773
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,400
rich people took advantage of it.
Really more people got a check for fourteen

774
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,440
hundred right, yeah, yeah,
and their inflation was four thousand dollars more

775
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,159
p year for two years. A
few of the rich people did give back

776
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:30,880
the money but that's just because they
got caught. That's true. It's true.

777
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:35,400
So this is the serious nature of
running for president that we're having.

778
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:38,199
Yeah, that other people I'm having. Can I ask you though about inflation?

779
00:59:38,519 --> 00:59:43,559
And again I'm far from an expert, but isn't a big part of

780
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:47,079
the problem there's all this price gauging
going on and and and by the way,

781
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,159
I have no idea what you do
about that, but but it isn't

782
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:52,880
that a big part of what's going
on? Because I feel like, this

783
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,599
is my perception, there's a lot
of price gouging. The mainstream media doesn't

784
00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:00,199
talk about it because you know,
they're part of of this, uh,

785
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:06,480
this corporate ecosystem, because the only
way I learned about it is through alternative

786
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:09,159
alternative media, you know, and
these these numbers, and again a lot

787
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:13,199
of it's over my head. But
um, but it seems to me like

788
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:19,719
so prices have been artificially raised to
some degree. The media for the most

789
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:22,840
part ignores it because like I said, they're they're part of this, this

790
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:29,360
whole corporate apparatus. And then we're
just sort of fed this thing um that

791
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,679
uh, you know, and and
by the way, I understand, you

792
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:35,599
know, there's other factors. Suit
Like I said, the pandemic really just

793
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,800
threw everything up in the air.
But but it isn't that isn't that part

794
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,559
of it? The price gouging.
No, price gouging is one of the

795
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:44,960
things that you know, people talk
about, but it's really a very small

796
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:50,880
problem. I mean, for example, look at Tyson Foods recently the President

797
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,960
Biden said they were price gouging a
year ago. The profits are falling off,

798
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:59,199
the going down, the price is
going down. They're not price gouging

799
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:05,239
now. I gouging among chief executive
officers of Lodge corporations. Price gouging the

800
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,480
shareholders been going on for thirty years. They make way too much money.

801
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:14,440
They and by operating out of China
and taking jobs out of Manchester, right

802
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:16,079
for thirty years. For thirty years, this has been going on. Yeah,

803
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:21,880
they've been gouging the CEOs and that's
been okayed by Republicans and Democrats.

804
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,559
But price gouging. Listen, the
truth is if the price of butter went

805
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:28,199
up, you'd buy margarine. There's
a lot of substitutes for a lot of

806
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:32,559
things. But what happened is that
the money supplied for twenty ten to twenty

807
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,079
twenty, money supply went up at
about five percent. What we call the

808
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:38,599
velocity of money, how many times
it turns over, Like if you're in

809
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:44,280
Venezuela right now, or in Argentina. Argentina inflation one hundred percent. If

810
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,679
we wake up in Argentina and some
of you hand me some Argentina whatever lara

811
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,199
or whatever they call it, I
spend it as quickly as possible because by

812
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:55,480
the end of the day it's gonna
lose ten percent of its value. I'm

813
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,519
gonna buy an apple. I'm gonna
go We're gonna do it in America.

814
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:01,960
That's not what's going on. The
velocity went down five percent per year.

815
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,280
Not to get again, I don't
want to get two technical, but I

816
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,159
know this stuff. The feder Reserve
didn't let the velocity go up because it

817
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:14,320
paid banks not to lend. So
the economy grew slowly, not didn't grow,

818
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,639
it grew slower one of the reasons. But in twenty twenty, money

819
01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:23,440
supply went up twenty percent very quickly. Now just pictures a scene where we

820
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:29,000
all wake up tomorrow morning. It
happens overnight. Everybody's got twenty percent more

821
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:31,039
money in every bank account. Overnight. Well, the guy who figures it

822
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:35,800
out first makes out like a Bandit
buys that house in Florida. You and

823
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,039
I show up a month later,
like too bad. Prices up, some

824
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:44,079
prices, some things didn't go up. Then you do have the supply change

825
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:46,159
problem, right, you have the
problem of what's happening out of China.

826
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,639
They closed their economy. We depend
way too much on prescription drugs, on

827
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,519
things from China. I fight about
this. By the way, my movie

828
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:58,519
is I travel the country this movie. And if you watch Fixing America,

829
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:01,679
my movie at Amazon, I can
for our Facebook viewers. In fact,

830
01:03:01,719 --> 01:03:05,159
I can put the camera on me
for a moment and hold it up.

831
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:07,719
Yeah, you brought me this dvd. Fix in America. This is um

832
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,519
and this is currently available on Amazon. Correct, sure, Amazon, you

833
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:13,920
can stream it. It's an old
movie. But if if, if,

834
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:16,239
if you don't show the debt clock
to somebody in the movie, you wouldn't

835
01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:20,320
know. I didn't make it yesterday. It's me traveling the United States of

836
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:25,280
America talking to regular folks like here
in Manchester, about China, about the

837
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:30,159
debt. Yeah, about energy that
by the way, that's something I think

838
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:32,880
everybody can agree on. Uh,
you know that we need to rely a

839
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:39,280
lot less on China for things like
prescription drugs and and but here's the problem.

840
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,840
I've been talking about this since two
thousand and five public he made a

841
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,519
movie about it. Yeah, my
Republican Party is finally sort of coming around

842
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:51,440
to understand this, right, And
the reason it takes so long is that

843
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:58,280
daring company, Big giant Walmart.
They made their CEO so much money in

844
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,920
the backs of workers here in America
losing their jobs. But that's how they

845
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,519
did it. Now, it's unusual
for Republican to say this, but but

846
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:09,719
it happens to be the truth.
Yeah, And I've been wanting to stop

847
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,039
this for a long time. And
by the way, it's starting to stop

848
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:15,880
anyway. China became a one person
rule company. One person runs that company's

849
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,960
a dictatorship. Now it's not even
a communist party, right, So we're

850
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:26,039
going to be bringing stuff home anyway. This supply chain stuff's stopping like it's

851
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:29,000
not going to be come from China. So we need to be the leader

852
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,280
in logistics and bring this stuff back
to America, Canada, Mexico. Some

853
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,000
stuff is better to be in one
of the country's neras but it's better for

854
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:40,920
Americans because the one thing that's true
about manufacturing jobs, and my father was

855
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,360
a toolmaker. I watched him lose
his job, lose part of his work

856
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,159
during the Japanese thing in the seventies, you know, the japan Dam was

857
01:04:47,199 --> 01:04:51,159
taken over the auto manufacturers. Yeah, and so I mean Amber's chain where

858
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:56,360
he worked. Harry Mbers kept everybody
working, but maybe twenty hours a week.

859
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,360
Sometimes maybe they closed for seven.
He wanted to keep everybody there.

860
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,000
My father was the shop stewart.
So I lived this growing up about you

861
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:04,679
know, I lived it was tight
financially, all these kind of things.

862
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:10,119
Yeah, so, but it never
stopped happening because China took over. So.

863
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:14,920
But but a manufacturing job coming back
to America, it's four jobs.

864
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,039
What do I mean by that?
You open up a manufacturing concern over here

865
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:21,039
to make bicycles, swin bicycle comes
back and starts making them over there.

866
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:26,559
Whatever, Well, someone shows up
and serves coffee, right, they need

867
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:30,719
they need some parts of handles there, some guy up in Littleton, I

868
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,280
don't know where right or or over
in bath made or something right. So

869
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:38,360
a manufacturing job is the biggest job
creator and we need them to come back.

870
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,000
Now. Will they all come back
now? I mean, can China

871
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:43,400
still make T shirts? Great if
they want to make T shirts, but

872
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,920
a lot of high tech stuff has
to come back to America. Yeah,

873
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,000
And I'm a guy who buys.
By the way, everything you can look

874
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:51,599
at here is made in America.
And I didn't do it for the show.

875
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,320
This This tie was made by bow
tizing Vermont. I do think too.

876
01:05:56,519 --> 01:06:00,519
I mean, I would say,
you know, obviously you're a Republican,

877
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,519
but I think you can probably reach
a lot of Democrats with that message

878
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:06,159
too, because I do think there's
a lot of unanimity on the idea that

879
01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:11,960
we just have to stop depending on
China, especially with I hope it doesn't

880
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,679
come to this ever, but you
know, the possibility of war in the

881
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:17,119
future and so forth, or or
if they decide to move on Taiwan and

882
01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:21,719
then we're involved, and which these
are nightmare scenarios that I don't like.

883
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:25,960
As a leader. We have to
try to avoid these things, but we

884
01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:30,760
have to. We have to know
that missus Jones out here and she needs

885
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,159
tilital or she needs liperto. I
don't know what she needs, but we

886
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,159
know that ninety percent of it,
the active ingredients and stuff is still made

887
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:44,920
in China today. Yeah. No, in twenty twenty again the talking politicians,

888
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,119
the Tom Cotton from the Republican Party, probably a great guy. He

889
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:50,280
talked and talked and talked about it, and do anything about it. Right.

890
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,639
So in this country, by the
way, and now we're facing medication

891
01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:59,159
shortages. Yes, and that's and
that's. This is the kind of stuff

892
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:01,880
that I know how to. Yeah, that this is what we're talking serious

893
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:08,039
stuff. So far we're not talking
about dastardly democrat. I mean it's gotten

894
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:12,960
to the point now where there's so
many disconnected people they don't think it can

895
01:07:13,079 --> 01:07:16,840
change. It goes to our campaign
finance laws. For example, when I

896
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,280
was making the movie in two thousand
and eleven, this is what my conservative

897
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,840
friends always disagree with you about,
right Yeah, And I'm a pretty conservative

898
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,800
guy, by the way, but
because I think that's what works. But

899
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,320
when I talk to them about campaign
finals laws, and I say, listen,

900
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,199
I'm going through Youngstown, Ohio.
I could have been in nashviewa New

901
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:36,400
Hampshire. But people generally have,
like I don't know, a couple hundred

902
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,519
bucks they want to put into a
campaign over a year if they want to

903
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:43,239
help somebody. But then they read
George Soros on the left has sixty million

904
01:07:43,519 --> 01:07:47,000
for a race and the Koch Brothers
on the right have seventy million for a

905
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,679
race, and they're like, what
is my fifty bucks going to do?

906
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,800
So that needs to change. That
needs to be that, that needs to

907
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:01,559
stop. It can't be that special
interest unknown people five or one C fours

908
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:05,480
and no one knows who they are. They can't be funding dark money.

909
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:09,119
Yeah, we just gotta stop it. And maybe it's gonna have to be

910
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:12,000
something. There's gonna be some limit
we got to put on it, you

911
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,480
don't you know what I always say
though too about this, and this is

912
01:08:14,519 --> 01:08:18,560
an unpopular opinion. I think that
as much as we all complain about it,

913
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,399
um, you know, we talk
about it a lot on the show,

914
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:26,399
I also think though that the American
people, we need to take more

915
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,359
the onus ourselves of actually just doing
the research, because it's not hard to

916
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,920
do. I always say, if
you go to a like a great website,

917
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,199
Open Secret Stock or great website,
you go to a website like that

918
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:41,600
and you look up a candidate or
someone who's currently in office, and you

919
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,039
can find out who who Actually it
is public information except for the dark money

920
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:48,600
that you know, the shadowy packs. That's got to go. But but

921
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:55,000
as far as companies, organizations,
law firms that are actively donating to these

922
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:59,600
campaigns, lobbyists, you can find
that out. And I always tell people,

923
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:03,720
once you know who's donating to these
candidates or the people who are currently

924
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:09,439
in office, once you know that, then you know exactly who they actually

925
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,279
work for, because they damn sure
it don't work for us, that's right.

926
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,439
You know they have it for a
long long time, right, I

927
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,279
mean, you're you're gonna hit the
nail on the head. This has to

928
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:19,359
change. This is about the corruption
that goes on. And it's not the

929
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:24,479
corruption when people get arrested. It's
the PPP program, the paypack, it's

930
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:30,479
that. It's The Wall Street Journal
wrote four giant articles starting five months ago

931
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,640
to like three months ago. They
wrote four articles about not even about elected

932
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:38,319
officials, front running trades. Yeah, they wrote about the agency people,

933
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:41,880
the guys who work at the Department
of Energy who meet with Chevron coming in

934
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,760
and they're gonna allow some drilling or
whatever. Twenty six hundred of them front

935
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,119
running people who have to show up
in front of them publicly traded companies.

936
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,720
So my policy is vastly different,
and you won't hear any about to say

937
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,119
this. Yeah, but we want
to align the president, the vice president,

938
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:01,119
the Congress, the senators, whatever, with the American people. If

939
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:06,079
all of them couldn't do blind trust, blind trust, really, come on,

940
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:11,119
if someone they're not blind, it's
a joke. Right when Mitt Romney

941
01:10:11,159 --> 01:10:15,880
was running, we heard we suddenly
heard that phrase quite a bit, the

942
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:20,479
silly what if they all had to
keep their money at banks like most people

943
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,960
do in the US dollars? Let
me ask everybody a question. You think

944
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,880
they would have paid you zero on
your interest from two thousand and nine to

945
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,439
two thousand and twenty one, or
would they paid you three or four percent,

946
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,079
three or four percent like it used
to be? The powers that be

947
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:42,119
by keeping rates too low, took
a trillion dollars out of the people listening

948
01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:45,199
to this show over twelve years.
The guy who's like, hey, I

949
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:46,840
got I make sixty grand, but
I say forty grand. I want to

950
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,479
buy a home. I used to
you know, that guy used to get

951
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,720
twelve hundred dollars at zero. So
the twelve hundred dollars. The missing twelve

952
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,479
hundred dollars didn't allow him to have
enough lobbying power to go down to what

953
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,680
would take him twelve hundred dollars to
get a hotel room for two nights to

954
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,279
go see his congressman. Right,
So he didn't do it. But the

955
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,760
really really rich guy I was like, well, it's the grace thing.

956
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,960
Ever. Yeah, I own these
stocks. They're gonna go up because the

957
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,920
alternative investment is zero. He used
to be five percent. I own I

958
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,760
owned gold, I owned silver,
whatever. They're gonna make a lot of

959
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,199
money. They did. Yeah,
but the average American got hosed. So

960
01:11:21,239 --> 01:11:25,720
we stop it. That's what I
want to do. These are serious,

961
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,399
serious things that if we could align. And by the way, I have

962
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,520
a gift for this. This is
what I'm good at. If you would

963
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,119
call people in Rhode Island, say
they'll say I didn't like Laughy. You

964
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:35,359
know, I didn't like him,
blah blah blah. They won't say I

965
01:11:35,399 --> 01:11:39,399
was wrong. There's no article that
you looked up that some guy said,

966
01:11:39,399 --> 01:11:42,039
you know what, financially he did
the wrong thing. There's not an article

967
01:11:42,079 --> 01:11:45,960
that's true. I didn't find one
that's true. There was a palace coup,

968
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:49,119
there was this. There was no
article saying, wow, that guy,

969
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,680
he made a bad decision running that
trade. There's no there's no article.

970
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,800
I have a gift for this.
I don't have again. I can't

971
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,840
change a lightbulb. I fell off
a lot of I had to finally sell

972
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,840
my tractor. I could barely drive
it. I stink at a lot of

973
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:09,319
things. But this stuff put in
the right person in the right position to

974
01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:13,319
do the best job. That's my
gift. Yeah, getting to the heart

975
01:12:13,359 --> 01:12:16,520
of a matter and forcing other people
to vote my way, that's my gift.

976
01:12:17,119 --> 01:12:19,239
UM, I want to look at
the I don't know if this.

977
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,720
UM. I thought I saw a
question for you in the chat room.

978
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:26,720
Well, you know what I wanted
to ask you while I look for that

979
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,000
is Oh, yeah, it was
about um. Someone had asked a question

980
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:33,800
in here. It's hard to find
this a busy chat room today. But

981
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:41,399
somebody had asked about schools, and
you had mentioned home schooling, and I

982
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,319
had read you were talking about it. Is it true? Is it still

983
01:12:45,359 --> 01:12:48,720
your position you want to actually eliminate
public schools? Ultimately not tomorrow morning,

984
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,439
But yes, I think that that
that let me go let me go through

985
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:56,079
this with people, because oftentimes,
even in New Hampshire, which is by

986
01:12:56,119 --> 01:12:58,840
the way, there are many good
schools, I mean, yes, relatively

987
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,319
good schools, right so yeah,
yeah, so, but for the nation

988
01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:03,800
as a whole, by the way, the local people want to keep this

989
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,600
schools go ahead. It's just that
the state and the Feds, what are

990
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,840
they really doing? How have they
improved things? So think about it.

991
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,520
From nineteen sixty two one, our
test scores have gone down. Last week,

992
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:21,159
our history scores for eighth graders found
that thirteen percent, not thirty three.

993
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:26,920
Thirteen percent of eighth grades in the
United States America were proficient in history

994
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,119
knowing who George Washington was. Twenty
percent were proficient in civics. Do we

995
01:13:31,159 --> 01:13:34,720
have a democracy? Do we have
a monarchy? They didn't know. Now

996
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:40,960
people listening today may be listening to
a school somewhere in New Hampshire were sixty

997
01:13:41,039 --> 01:13:43,359
or sixty five percent of the kids
are proficient, which is still, by

998
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:47,600
the way, terrible, It's terrible. But that means in Denver, Memphis,

999
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:54,000
Detroit, Jacksonville, we got numbers
near zero. Because they get the

1000
01:13:54,079 --> 01:13:58,840
thirteen percent. You've got to have
some places like in Los Angeles. In

1001
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,800
Los Angeles in the pandemic, they
didn't know what happened to twenty five percent

1002
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:09,439
of the kids. So public schools
in a totality have failed. Many people

1003
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,800
listening might say, well, what
are you talking about? I just saw

1004
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,079
that episode of Little House in the
Prairies and like that. No, or

1005
01:14:15,119 --> 01:14:18,960
they might say to themselves, yeah, what happened to those PTA meetings?

1006
01:14:19,119 --> 01:14:23,359
They don't exist, folks. When
I was a kid in the sixties and

1007
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,399
square dancing in first grade, you
know, and the parents were yelling,

1008
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,439
I want little Johnny to blah blah
blah, mister Hayes the principal. So

1009
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,279
you haven't lost my facility yet.
I know. I know all my teachers,

1010
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,880
so I'm not too old. So
so that that doesn't exist. What

1011
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:42,880
exists our teachers unions that are way
too powerful, right, Sure, some

1012
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,399
teachers on the paid to some overpaid. I don't want to get into that.

1013
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:46,560
What I want to tell you is
I think a lot of them are

1014
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,600
underpaid. They could very well be, of course they have the summers off

1015
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:55,319
and blah blah anyway, whatever,
But the parents need to get a check

1016
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,880
and we need competition, and especially
at the federal level. If you if

1017
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,359
you're someone listening to this and you
don't have kids, especially your property taxes

1018
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:11,600
wherever you live. The largest input
is probably schools, but they're averaging twenty

1019
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:16,359
to twenty three thousand dollars a kid. I homeschooled my kids and put them

1020
01:15:16,359 --> 01:15:19,880
in this and that for four thousand. Catholic schools are doing it for eight.

1021
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:26,800
I mean the margins of getting a
better education and cheaper we can do

1022
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,479
that now at the federal level.
Let's all as think about one thing.

1023
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,720
How do you know that the federal
government couldn't kill us? Do you think

1024
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:38,119
they do? Right now? There's
something called the internet came around the late

1025
01:15:38,199 --> 01:15:45,359
nineties, and right now today the
best algebra one teacher could be for free,

1026
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:50,880
free on that federal website doing videos
talking about why equals MX plus B,

1027
01:15:51,119 --> 01:15:55,640
what the slope is boop. They
could do all that for free.

1028
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,800
So when little Johnny or little Isabelle
miss got sick or had a pandemic,

1029
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:04,319
the moms could say, let's just
watch this tonight. It doesn't exist,

1030
01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:09,840
they don't have it up there.
They'd be bold into the National Teacher Union,

1031
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,920
who would never allow it. A
lot of this could be done for

1032
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,479
free. Now, am I trying
to do away with school sports? I'm

1033
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,600
not listen. This is one of
these things that will take years. But

1034
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,359
well, this is a This is
a tough sell because a lot of people

1035
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:26,720
really love their public school system.
I. Um, there was a moment

1036
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,720
on the show. This was a
few months ago, but it was kind

1037
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,239
of funny. Rob as a veto
who hosts a show here. He came

1038
01:16:32,279 --> 01:16:35,600
in early for his show and he
sat and we were talking, and my

1039
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,960
dad called, and my dad's very
conservative, he'll he'll probably he'll, he'll

1040
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,840
probably be very approving of a lot
of what you're saying. But he got

1041
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,159
into it was a pretty pretty big
moment. Actually, he had into a

1042
01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:51,960
bit of an argument, like a
yelling argument with Rob, because you know,

1043
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,960
my dad was talking about the failure
of public schools and Rob was saying

1044
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,680
that his kids have had a great
experience in public school and um, and

1045
01:17:01,279 --> 01:17:03,880
I believe that, you know,
they've they've done very well and they're going

1046
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:08,680
off to college and so forth.
And I think that, Um, part

1047
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:14,399
of the problem you run into with
this idea is I think that, yes,

1048
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,840
there obviously there are schools, school
systems around the country that are are

1049
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,920
very doing a very poor job.
And and that is evidenced by when you

1050
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:29,920
contrast our numbers of learning proficiency with
that of other countries, other modern industrialized

1051
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,359
nations. It's it's it's pretty bad. Um. But there are also school

1052
01:17:34,359 --> 01:17:38,680
systems where where they do a great
job. And I'm not sure how you

1053
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:44,960
how you sell this to parents in
school districts who are doing a great job.

1054
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:47,680
They don't have to. Yeah,
if somebody out there in some rural

1055
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,600
community says we want to keep it
and blah blah blah blah blah, but

1056
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,960
just don't depend on the state for
money. While you're depending on the state

1057
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,840
for your kids, you can't.
The more things we keep local and not

1058
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,439
federal state, the best off we
are. We have a call and my

1059
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,439
dad must have been listening because he's
on the line. Hello, Hey,

1060
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:11,159
Maddie, I love your guests.
Your guest is presenting such a I knew

1061
01:18:11,159 --> 01:18:15,239
you wrote information, and uh,
I just this is between us. But

1062
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,239
I'm gonna be brief because I want
to your guest to have the the opportunity

1063
01:18:19,239 --> 01:18:20,800
to continue. And I know we're
right out of the time. I just

1064
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:28,119
gotta have a meeting, But do
you remember, um a debate I had

1065
01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:32,920
with you a little bit, but
more with a guest about the perils of

1066
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,680
public education. Do you remember that
one? Well, I just I just

1067
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,359
referenced it. I assumed that's why
you were calling. Yeah, I was

1068
01:18:40,399 --> 01:18:45,159
just telling Steve about that the argument. Uh, And it did become quite

1069
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:47,279
the argument that you had with Rob
as a veto on the show. Yes,

1070
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,239
Rob, I love and I Rob. I love Rob as of Vito,

1071
01:18:50,279 --> 01:18:54,920
and I didn't know that it was
he. I would have taken a

1072
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,119
different tack. But my point is
that you've got books out there, like

1073
01:18:58,399 --> 01:19:01,600
uh, your guests probably read them
or aware them. Like I just mentioned

1074
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:08,159
too, Waiting for Superman is a
great book by Ton. And then there's

1075
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:13,520
Golden Book, which I love.
It's called Savage Inequality and it goes to

1076
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:18,359
the issues your guest is talking about
public education. In New Hampshire. We're

1077
01:19:18,399 --> 01:19:25,159
doing reasonably well, but not nationwide
at all, and that's a disgrace.

1078
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,079
And it's you know, just parenthetically. And this is not to pin roses

1079
01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:33,680
on me or to try to hurt
anyone's feelings, but I grew up in

1080
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:40,159
a different world and all of my
life experience not perfect by any means,

1081
01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:45,239
of course. But from grammar school
to high school to college and graduate schools,

1082
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,560
I had great mentors and great opportunity
for training and education even in the

1083
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,880
military. You know, I was
very, very fortunate. That was a

1084
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,399
grace of God in my judgment.
I know we're not a religious program,

1085
01:19:57,399 --> 01:20:00,199
so I'm not gonna go too far. That was. But but we need

1086
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:09,000
to challenge the issue of public education, which has become more indoctrination and propaganda.

1087
01:20:09,079 --> 01:20:12,279
And these kids can't think. They
can't they don't know how to problem

1088
01:20:12,319 --> 01:20:15,479
them solve. They don't know how
to ask for help. They don't know

1089
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,520
they're mathematics. You know. I
still practice my algebra. Not because I'm

1090
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:23,800
great at math, guys, but
because it's a challenge to help me think

1091
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,680
critically and logically. It's a discipline
for me. I don't advise that necessarily

1092
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,000
for other people, but for me, it works. You know, I

1093
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:35,079
don't want to. But this goes
to elite capture, and there are two

1094
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:39,000
parts of elite capture. I just
want to throw that out for your guests

1095
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:44,479
too. It's it's more an oblique
reference, but it's important and it's related.

1096
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,159
It's germane and that is that you
have elite capture A and b A

1097
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:56,239
is easy to see. It's when
a corporation or organization or teachers unions are

1098
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:02,159
Chinese Communist governments, even Romainian governments. Apparently we still need to know more

1099
01:21:02,319 --> 01:21:08,600
delineate that more foid with Biden.
But they try to influence pedal and they

1100
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,039
do. You know, they capture
people's behavior and policies through big money.

1101
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:15,359
But then there are I'm not going
to go into the mall but today because

1102
01:21:15,359 --> 01:21:21,039
of time, but there are four
other aspects of persuasion and buying, control

1103
01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:28,199
and propaganda. So I'll just mention
one of them, and that is the

1104
01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:35,720
separation, purposeful separation of families from
the government, particularly the federal government.

1105
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:44,279
But that includes school boards when people
are not included and people don't get involved.

1106
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,880
You know, two sides of the
same a similar coin there. And

1107
01:21:47,239 --> 01:21:55,199
as a result of that, secrets
are kept, issues of personal values are

1108
01:21:55,279 --> 01:22:00,560
kept, and education is undermined.
So that's elite. Sure, that's a

1109
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,840
structure that's not only problematic, but
it is pernicious. And you see this

1110
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:10,279
with that thirteen percent your guests just
mentioned. I'm so appalled by that and

1111
01:22:10,359 --> 01:22:14,119
discouraged by that, but I'm not
surprised at all. And the twenty percent

1112
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,319
we need to do so much better. You know, some of these kids.

1113
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,239
When I was in eighth grade,
and again it's not meaning by my

1114
01:22:19,319 --> 01:22:24,359
other students too, we had teachers
that taught these things. We were interested.

1115
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:28,720
Our parents reinforced that and demanded that
and had a discipline with that.

1116
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:32,920
We knew who the senators were,
We knew how how many states were in

1117
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:38,359
the union. We knew the three
branches of government and we could talk about

1118
01:22:38,399 --> 01:22:43,079
it. We know who wrote the
Constitution and why it was important. These

1119
01:22:43,159 --> 01:22:47,000
kids don't know today. So I'm
a little bit vindicated on that issue.

1120
01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:51,760
But there are many things we could
do, I believe, to improve the

1121
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,840
situation, but we have to have
the will and the value system to do

1122
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,159
that. Finally, I just wanted
to say, God bless Jenny. We

1123
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:03,399
don't always agree on some major issues, and I don't call to debate her,

1124
01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:06,920
are you or anything like that,
but I am with you guys,

1125
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:12,319
one hundred percent. I never thought
I'd be with Bernie Sanders on anything,

1126
01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:16,840
frankly, but we need to have
one a system in this country where everyone

1127
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:21,000
gets medical care. Uh, these
insurance companies have abused it. I've been

1128
01:23:21,039 --> 01:23:25,439
slow to come to this conclusion,
but I'm there now with you, guys,

1129
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,960
So kudos to you. I'll stop
there, guys. Great show,

1130
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,560
matt I love the way you take
a balanced position on these issues is very

1131
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,520
sophisticated. I'm very proud of you. Oh, thank you. Appreciate that.

1132
01:23:36,119 --> 01:23:39,079
I assume you were talking to me, or did you mean Steve?

1133
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,680
Actually, actually I was talking to
you. You're my son, Mattie,

1134
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,720
and I think Steve is a distant
relative. I think I may be a

1135
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:53,520
great uncle or something. The work
you're doing, well, we're gonna we're

1136
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,520
gonna get this across to America.
And your dad's a very wise man.

1137
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,560
You mean, one you learn over
time. And the bottom line for education

1138
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,640
is simply this, with these kind
of test scores that keep going lower,

1139
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:09,880
what does everybody else want to do? That's the same time, I mean,

1140
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,479
we have Republican governors who want to
take the wokeness out of schools.

1141
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,359
God God bless him. That'll six
That'll fix three percent of the problem.

1142
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,560
The problem is right now your dad
talking, is that there's a guy like

1143
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,399
your dad. I don't know what
he did the kids named Steve Lampy.

1144
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:28,039
He's sitting in Detroit right now,
he's sitting in Memphis, he's sitting somewhere

1145
01:24:28,039 --> 01:24:31,359
in Manchester. And he's either really
smart and get ahead, but no one's

1146
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,439
letting him get ahead. By the
way, the three kids I homeschool because

1147
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,880
of the cancer in my family.
One of them is the youngest Admitia cars

1148
01:24:41,079 --> 01:24:43,680
State University in the history of the
university, at the age of twelve,

1149
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,479
so he wasn't held back the other
one by one. He was only two

1150
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:54,319
years older there. So listen,
we can we have to change this thing

1151
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,800
radically. We can't wake up.
We're gonna wake up next year and I'm

1152
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,840
gonna be on the show and you
I'm gonna tell you about the new math

1153
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,159
scores that are lower. And someone's
gonna call in and say, oh,

1154
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,760
we can't do that. Our schools
are pretty good. We'll keep ump.

1155
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:11,159
But I want to check for every
mom and dad so they can make the

1156
01:25:11,239 --> 01:25:13,720
choice. And here's the math that
the unions always do. Oh, you're

1157
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,840
gonna take our best students. Do
the math? Folks, if at seven

1158
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:21,840
thousand dollars a kid out of a
hundred kids in one school and ninety leave

1159
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,479
and there's ten left. Heck,
you can give him all forty grand and

1160
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:32,800
save money for taxpayers and get better
education for all. We're so d Dad.

1161
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,880
We gotta let you go in a
second. Just a quick question though,

1162
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,359
before you go. Are you are
you prepared now publicly to dump Trump

1163
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:45,159
and endorse Steve Laughy. I just
want to hear you saying yeah, yes,

1164
01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:51,840
I am, yes, yeah,
send me some material, you know.

1165
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:57,199
I gotta say, just very critically
quickly. I do like uh Vivic

1166
01:25:57,279 --> 01:26:00,159
Lamaswami. Have you guys listened to
him at all? Ye, yes,

1167
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:03,319
I have to get into it.
But he's a very smart guy. But

1168
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,880
lots of stuff he comes up with
doesn't solve the problem, like having the

1169
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,960
FED look at commodities, but we're
not gonna look at commodities. We're gonna

1170
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,239
keep it at zero. But the
importance, but the important thing is Dad,

1171
01:26:15,319 --> 01:26:18,560
you have you have said you are
willing to dump Trump and Okay,

1172
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:28,000
well we gotta go. Purpose that's
right. I know it's all right Dad.

1173
01:26:28,039 --> 01:26:30,119
Well we do have to go,
though, But thank you for the

1174
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:32,760
call. I appreciate it, my
pleasure or not. Thank you for your

1175
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,560
guests. Wonderful presentation. All right, love you all right, by bye?

1176
01:26:38,119 --> 01:26:41,159
All right. That was my dad, Martin Connerton. I do want

1177
01:26:41,159 --> 01:26:45,239
to get this in Steve just quickly
because a few people brought it up in

1178
01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:48,800
the chat room concern about um in
terms of education kids with disabilities, if

1179
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:54,760
we go to a primarily a homeschool
model, they're probably listening and that kind

1180
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,479
of that kind of model, we're
gonna have to listen. As an eighteen

1181
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,279
year old kid, I was president
Student Council Ranston East. Joe Ventetula walks

1182
01:27:02,319 --> 01:27:06,279
in and we're integrating special needs students. We had different names for it back

1183
01:27:06,279 --> 01:27:10,840
then, and he's like, you
know what, you're the president student council.

1184
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:14,760
No one makes fun of these kids
down syndrome and so forth. Yeah.

1185
01:27:15,039 --> 01:27:15,520
So, by the way, we
had a great year. We did,

1186
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,640
and I got all the clicks together, the greed what we would call

1187
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,520
greasers and you know, hockey players, and we just made sure we had

1188
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:25,039
a great ear kids with doing stuff. Yeah. Listen, in the end,

1189
01:27:25,119 --> 01:27:29,840
we're always gonna be left with people
that really really need our help,

1190
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,239
and we'll got to spend the money
to help them. Yeah, and that's

1191
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:35,680
going to be a special situation.
But here's the problem with what the federal

1192
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:40,720
government does. They go like this
with the PPP program. My arms are

1193
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,800
as wide as I can. Instead
of saying, you know what with a

1194
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,960
rifle, what do we really need
to do? I figured, of rifle,

1195
01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:48,720
what do we need to do to
help? So we're always going to

1196
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,279
help the special needs kids, the
kids who have down syndrome, we're gonna

1197
01:27:53,319 --> 01:27:56,520
put We're not gonna put them away
so we don't see them. They're gonna

1198
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,880
be out in front, and we'll
have extra money to spend on them so

1199
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:01,680
they have the fullest life. And
by the way, I grew up with

1200
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,279
families that had these situations. Now
I had different situations. I had schizophrenia

1201
01:28:05,279 --> 01:28:08,479
in my family. I had a
lot of different things going to my family.

1202
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,000
Right. Yeah, my brother tried
to burn down the Institutentmental Health in

1203
01:28:13,079 --> 01:28:15,920
Cranston, Rhode Island while I was
the mayor. Wow, you got locked

1204
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,000
up in a psychiotic ward for criminally
in saying oh howny many years wow.

1205
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:25,039
So I know this stuff, right, It's not like I'm trying to ignore

1206
01:28:25,079 --> 01:28:27,079
it, but when it comes to
that kind of stuff, we are.

1207
01:28:27,279 --> 01:28:30,680
But let's have the extra money to
target on special needs, not wasting it

1208
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,000
left and right. And by the
way, these eighth grade kids should be

1209
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,800
deciding like they do in Germany in
many respects. Hey, you know what,

1210
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:41,680
I don't want to do algebra two. I'm gonna fix cars. Why

1211
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,640
not? Right, what we do
is we keep taking the square peg and

1212
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,600
we kind of keep jamming these round
holes. Right, the square peg can't

1213
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:53,760
go into these round holes. Let's
find a better situation for the kids.

1214
01:28:57,199 --> 01:28:59,439
We're Yeah, we are about out
of time. I feel like we just

1215
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,520
barely at the surface. So well, if we'll have to have you on

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01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,680
again soon. Are you in New
Hampshire, I'm Steve Laughy. I'm in

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01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,960
New Hampshire. I've been here since
off and on since February twenty fifth.

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01:29:11,079 --> 01:29:14,319
Yeah, I don't have any intention
of leaving. We're gonna make it on

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01:29:14,359 --> 01:29:16,960
the ballot and we're gonna make our
We're gonna make our breakthrough the way Herman

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01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:19,760
Kaine did in Florida in twenty eleven, who became a friend of mine.

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01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:24,680
Which is why I have the nine
tax plane at Steve Laughey dot com and

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01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,840
um because we need a simple system
that people can understand it. It works

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01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,760
and we collect a lot more money. But I'm gonna be in New Hampshire.

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01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,479
I'm here, I'm just here.
Yeah, I'd love to have at

1225
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,560
it again. I'd love to have
an in depth conversation with you about healthcare.

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,199
Um. You know, Jenny is
uh, you know, as as

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01:29:40,239 --> 01:29:42,720
my dad referred to and as I
mentioned earlier in the show, Jenny is

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01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,560
in Washington, DC right now.
We probably disagree on that, but you

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01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,199
know we support she and I and
my dad too at this point, support

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01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,399
socialized medicine. But I know you
have a lot of ideas about healthcare.

1231
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,000
Um, so i'd love to talk
to you about that and renewable energy and

1232
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,920
some other things. So yeah,
well we'll do the again. We'll do

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01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,039
this again soon. And um and
you got my dad to say that he'll

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01:30:04,119 --> 01:30:09,680
dump dump Trump, so that's good. I'm not I don't know how you

1235
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,199
feel about I'm not a fan.
No, while you're running against him,

1236
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:15,800
so I'm running against him, and
I think I think a lot of it

1237
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,520
is marketing. And listen, as
a conservati there were some good things that

1238
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:23,960
happened if you're a conservative person like
myself, But it's but running. But

1239
01:30:24,079 --> 01:30:27,840
listen to everybody listening who hasn't yet
dumped Trump. President Trump, I try

1240
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:32,119
to be respectful. We if you're
listening in your conservative we were totally against

1241
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:38,880
Barack Obama's eight trillion dollar deficits over
eight years, and many of them not

1242
01:30:39,039 --> 01:30:43,720
me. I was always against him, never voted for Donald Trump. We

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01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:48,439
were okay with eight trillion dollars deficits
in four years, and now we're not

1244
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:53,199
okay with Biden's less than that in
four years. But we're not okay with

1245
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:55,640
any of it. We want to
shut down the Government's not that, that's

1246
01:30:55,640 --> 01:31:00,760
it. We we have no credibility
Republicans. Listen, Let's get back to

1247
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:06,319
the basics, and that means stuff. I'm talking about, real solutions and

1248
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:11,600
acknowledge that some people won't like it. Well, I always say Republicans only

1249
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,199
care about the debt and deficits when
there's a Democrat in office. You got

1250
01:31:15,239 --> 01:31:17,760
it. I care about it every
day because I am no I have no

1251
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:23,159
debt. I don't have any debt. I always run surpluses. Yeah,

1252
01:31:23,159 --> 01:31:25,279
I know, you got to end
the show, but yeah, it's Steve

1253
01:31:25,359 --> 01:31:29,000
Laughy dot com. By the way, I'm the only website with this hundreds

1254
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,920
of hours of stuff you want to
hear about me and Ariel Sharone. I

1255
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,720
got an hour on that. I
don't know why anybody would, but I

1256
01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:39,319
didn't take anything down. What I've
said for a long time, I still

1257
01:31:39,319 --> 01:31:43,479
say it. Well all right,
well yeah, so we will. We

1258
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,159
will have you back, and thank
you for coming in. Wonderful to meet

1259
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:48,640
you. I actually have I actually
have a song. I'm gonna close.

1260
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:53,399
I picked a special song for you. This is a little weird, but

1261
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,560
there was a hip hop group called
d Foelle and they had a song called

1262
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,680
Laffy Taffy. And I was reading
about you online and I saw that when

1263
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:05,600
you were running for mayor, you
gave out laughy taffy at a campaign event.

1264
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:09,680
At a campaign event, I bought
a crate of it, did you.

1265
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,399
Yeah, it's too long to tell
you. Yeah, yeah, but

1266
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,359
lay became. So let's just put
it this way. In Cranston walking behind

1267
01:32:16,399 --> 01:32:20,199
some kids with my kids, and
one kid in front says, hey,

1268
01:32:20,359 --> 01:32:25,119
what's with this laughy taffy? This
year? Why that was the yard won

1269
01:32:25,159 --> 01:32:28,239
the election? There you go.
That might have been around when the song

1270
01:32:28,319 --> 01:32:31,439
came out. Actually it's a terrible
song, but I just I thought I

1271
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,800
thought it was funny, so yeah, let's go with it. Well,

1272
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,520
we'll end with this, but thank
you, thank you again, Steve,

1273
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:42,359
thank you very much for having me
absolutely Republican candidate for the presidency Steve Laughy.

1274
01:32:42,399 --> 01:32:46,840
And thank you again to a Yuri
from from the band uh. Let

1275
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,880
make sure I get the name right
this time from the band Oberon who skyped

1276
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,800
in all the way from Italy.
During the first hour. If you miss

1277
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,760
any part of today's show, it'll
be up in just a little bit of

1278
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,880
WMH radio dot org and in my
website Matt Connorton dot com. And tomorrow

1279
01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:06,800
is Wednesday, which means in the
first hour will be joined by Eric Pilcher

1280
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,920
as he's doing a new segment with
us on Wednesdays where we talk about media.

1281
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,119
And then in the second hour we
have a musical guest, Horsefly Gulch.

1282
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:20,760
We'll be joining us and they are
coming in live in studio. So

1283
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,239
that's going to do it for us
for now. Oh and if you're listening

1284
01:33:24,279 --> 01:33:28,199
live on Tuesday, coming up next
immediately after this show is through the Stage

1285
01:33:28,199 --> 01:33:31,039
Store hosted by Rob Dyon, and
then at seven pm, a replay of

1286
01:33:31,079 --> 01:33:36,359
Friday Night's retro Spectrum Radio with Pauli
c and Steve Laughy. Thank you again

1287
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,119
and here's a little bit of Laughy
taffy for you.
