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Some weeks or longer than others.
Lord have mercy. This week could not

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get to Friday soon enough. I
am so worn out by this week.

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You know what, I want to
hear the intro again. We're gonna do

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it one more time. Let's start
the whole show over. Oh that's so

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much better. Hey, if I
am sex forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio

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app. It's Friday, y'all.
It's Friday, and I hope your week

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was not as long as mine.
But we're gonna get the party started soon

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enough. There are some things that
we do have to talk about in and

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around Los Angeles and Orange County,
some of the issues which have covered the

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whole week, the whole week from
beginning to end. We have a third

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metro bus driver attacked this week,
a third one. We'll have all the

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information on that. LA City Hall, excuse me, LA City Council says

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we need ethics reform here. No, you need criminal reform. It's not

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the ethics which you're getting in the
way. It's the laws that you're breaking

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allegedly which are getting in the way. If you only had a problem with

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ethics, people wouldn't be going to
jail. See you can find people for

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ethics violations when they go to jail
for months and years. That's a different

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malady, as they say, that's
a different illness. We'll talk about that.

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And Sesame Street writers avoided a strike
with the last minute agreement today,

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I think within the past hour.
But Disneyland parades and characters cast members,

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they're filing for vote to unionize.
Go ahead, Mark, No, I

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feel like you just respond to like
a video game character when you redid the

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intro. Okay, we want to
do it a third time. No,

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no, no, we don't need
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Foo's just stepped away anyway, Well
he's back. We can do it a

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third time. A third time.
Let's sort a third time. Let's do

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it one more time from the top, all right, and the five,

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then the sixth, and the seven
and eight, and we'll get to your

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positions, all right. Tawalla leaves
the studio again. Mark, you gotta

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start what you do is all right? Here we go. He's Kim six

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forty. We're lived everywhere on the
Heart radio apps later with bo Kelly.

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It's a fabulous friday here in Los
Angeles and Orange County. Can't wait to

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speak to all of you as we
do that Nay, that movie called Classic

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in the third hour of the show
every single Friday. Hey, is that

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better? Mark? No, kind
of slimy? Actually, okay, let's

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try it again. No, no
again, help you? No, no,

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no, no, We're gonna get
it right. It's the Quiet Star

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on kf I am six lovers all
night long. We're live everywhere on the

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iHeartRadio app. Yeah, show you
right and now coming to the microphone is

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the one and only Mark leave them
hollering. Runner. I don't know what

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you're doing, but it's it's leaving
me a little confused and a little aroused,

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and I want you to stop it. Stop it right now. That's

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a you problem. Well it's gonna
be everybody's problem. But there's a lot

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of good stuff that we are going
to talk about tonight. We're gonna have

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some fun tonight. We have to
make up for this very long and news

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heavy week. But at the same
time, there are a couple things we

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do need to touch upon which are
serious in nature. We talked about Tawalla,

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you and I. We talked about
USC. We said, actually ought

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to give you the credit. You
said, USC may have created a larger

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problem by canceling only one speech as
opposed to all the speeches or many of

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the speeches, And the very next
day you saw these protests about the one

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speech which was canceled. Well,
USC has now removed outside speakers and honorees

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from the twenty twenty four commencement,
which seems to say nobody is speaking.

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Maybe the university president, we'll speak. That's the only way it should be.

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They should have done that from the
beginning. By singling out one speaker,

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they created a bigger issue than need
be. If they were trying to

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avoid any appearance of undue treatment,
they should have just said, you know

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what, looking at the tensions in
the country, looking at where we are

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right now, and to ensure a
safe and successful ceremony, we're going to

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cancel all speakers. We would just
have the president come out and speak on

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behalf, maybe one paid speaker,
you know, have Oprah come out or

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something. No, they said no, I know, and they said no

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outside, which is actually better.
But I thought they would have just had

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the president and one notable luminary come
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Would I wouldn't have even advocated for
the one outside luminary the first I

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will say, the first recommendation we
had would have been the correct recommendation.

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You cannot cut out one person and
then not expect that to blow back on

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you. If they would have said
from the very beginning, no, there

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are going to be no speakers,
no speakers at all, so no one

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can claim unfair treatment or you're singling
someone out. Now you absolutely can say

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you were singling her out and the
campus students they responded accordingly, and it

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made bad matters worse. Now you
want to come back and say, and

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yes, I'll give you credit for
finally getting there, but you should have

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gotten there the first time around,
not the second or third time around.

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This is what USC had to say. Quote. Given the highly publicized circumstances

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surrounding our main stage commencement program,
university leadership has decided it is best to

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release our outside speakers and honorees from
attending this year's ceremony. It is important

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that our full attention be on our
remarkable graduates should have done that from the

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first time. Yep. We will
be celebrating their accomplishments in a way that

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reflects the unity. We love so
much about our Trojan family clothes quote.

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That should have been the first response, not the second, third, or

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fourth response. It's okay if you
wait a day or two and make sure

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you get it right as opposed to
rushing and getting it wrong. They got

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it wrong, and now they're trying
to clean it up. I don't know

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if they'll be able to clean it
up. I don't know if they'll be

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able to avoid the protest regardless.
I think the damage has been done.

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I think the university's reputation has already
taken a hit, and I don't know

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if you will win the student body
back. I don't know. Don't you

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think Mo, that there's also a
little streisand effect going on with this,

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how so, in that they've only
managed to draw more attention to themselves by

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what they've done than if they just
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to happen. Absolutely, and that
is to t Walla's point. They've created

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this publicity which is not focusing on
the graduation itself. The university did that

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all by itself. Nobody said you
had to come out and say, you

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know what, we don't want the
valedictorian to speech to speak. No one

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said that, No one said you
had to make a decision. No one

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had to say you had to single
her out. But that's what they chose

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to do, and invariably it caused
a greater controversy. I wonder who was

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in that room who said, you
know what, it would be a really

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good idea if we just pissed off
half the campus. Not great pr I

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don't get it. I don't get
it. We should have been in that

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meeting. Tuala should have clearly they
were listening to the show, because since

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they were listening to the show,
they came around and did the right thing.

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And I'm going to take full responsibility
for it. Well, I can't

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do that because it was twallest idea, but it has see the effort.

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Okay, all right then, just
don't give Ronn or any credit. Please,

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No, it's Later with mo Kelly. We have to talk about the

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third metro bus attack this week when
we come back. KFIM six forty live

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everywhere in the Icart radio app.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on

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demand from KFI AM six forty.
And there's some subjects after a certain point,

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and if you're a parent, you
know exactly what I mean when I

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tell you this, after a while, you run out of words to say

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to your child. You know,
don't do this, don't do that.

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If you do this, then that's
gonna happen, and you find yourself repeating

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yourself over and over again, and
eventually you'll come to the point where you

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don't have any new words to share. All you can do is just shake

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your head like because you said all
you can say, You've done all that

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you can do, and yet the
behavior does not change. This is how

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I feel when I have to talk
about all things Metro, and if you

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listen to the response from Metro,
it's always everything except the elephant in the

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middle of the room. It's always
everything except the actual problem. We'll talk

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about someone getting stabbed, and Metro
will talk about, well, unfortunately it's

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drugs and mental health, that it's
a scourged that it's rampaging across America.

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Can we deal with actually what is
happening right in front of us, No,

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we don't. We're not pushing aside
mental health, we're not pushing aside

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drugs. But neither of that has
anything to do with me or my family.

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When we're on the Metro, it's
almost like I'm paying extra money intentionally

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as insurance. I pay like maybe
one hundred dollars per week so I can

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use that as insurance so I don't
get stabbed. But that's actually the cost

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of gas and maintenance for my car
about one hundred dollars per week. It's

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almost like one hundred dollars per week
insurance policy that I do not die on

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Metro. This is the third Metro
attack on a bus this week. I

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have run out of words to share, but we were talking about three separate

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attacks here, all going down on
Metro buses, all going down since just

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last Saturday, the latest one happening
early this morning, and it now has

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the union that represents the Metro bus
drivers out saying, enhing enough watch this.

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Paramatics rush to the er as lapd
rushes in code three. That is

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an outbreak of violence has hit Metro
buses three separate attacks, turning either the

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bus driver or a passenger three in
just the last week alone. It's horrible.

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It's getting bad, like really really
bad, because there's people like you

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intead of getting punched, getting stabbed, that's just some of the crime riding

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aboard Metro. The latest attack early
Thursday morning in Santa Monica, a man

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tries to get aboard a metro bus
by kicking the closed door than assaulting the

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driver inside. That follows a bloody
weekend on metro buses. Early Saturday,

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Silver Lake, an elderly passenger carried
off the bus in a sheet after being

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stabbed by another passenger. The attacker
taken down and arrested a short distance away.

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Then just hours later, another attack, this time in South LA and

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this time the bus driver is the
target, punched and stabbed several times by

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passenger. No wonder. The union
that represents metro bus drivers is now demanding

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better safety measures, saying, quote, these disturbing incidences must stop. No

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one should have to endure these traumatic
encounters, whether as a passenger or one

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of our members. This metro rider
has seen all the violence up close.

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This homeless dude gout on the bus
and he just like the bus driver's like,

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where's your fair like, and he
just got angry and just a boot.

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What was that boot? What does
that mean? That's what you do

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to a kiddies nose. That's not
that's not a boop they're talking about.

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I don't think something. And he
just got angry and just boot. Is

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it a boot? Is this like
Canadian? It's like a boot. Terrence

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and Philip are being interviewed. Maybe
I heard it wrong and he just got

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angry and just boot. I was
like ooh, woot. I was like

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ooh. I struggle to understand woot. I was like ooh. And the

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crying wave on buses brings this reaction
quote Metro. Okay, here's Metro's response.

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Let's listen closely. Let's see if
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the problem. Is saddened to hear
about this senseless act of violence against our

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bus operator, which was apparently fueled
by drug abuse and untreated mental illness.

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There it is by drug abuse and
untreated mental illness. Yes, until society

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deals with untreated mental illness and drug
abuse, there's no reason to think anyone

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can be safe on a metro bus
by drug abuse and untreated mental illness crises

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that are plaguing our nation. That
is the La County shaff Wait wait wait

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wait, drugs and mental health issues
are plaguing our nation, but not everyone

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is getting stabbed and shot and killed
on metro buses all around the nation.

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We know that, right crises that
are plaguing our nation. That is,

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the La County Sheriff's Department is now
out with his special bulletin wanted for attempted

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murder the suspect from the Saturday attack
on the metro bus driver. It says

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he's armed with brass knuckles and the
blade all used against that driver. So

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what do we learn? What did
we learn about? This? Week?

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Three is a magic You're listening to
later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI

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Am six forty and Los Angeles City
Council Committee has taken steps on ethics reform

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at city Hall. Do we have
a lack of ethics at City Hall?

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Well? Maybe arguably, But that's
like going back to the metro bus issue.

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You're not correctly identifying the problem.
And if you want to dance around

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and play around the edges and not
get to the heart of the matter,

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then you won't actually solve the problem. Because when I look at the history

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of LA City Council and City Hall, LA City government more generally, it's

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not an ethics problem per se.
Well it is, and it is it.

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Let me put it this way,
City Hall doesn't have an ethics problem.

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From where I sit. It has
a crime problem. It's not the

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same. All crime includes ethical lapses, but not all ethical lapses lapses are

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criminal. It's not fair to say. I mean, I hate to go

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all geometry on people, but all
squares are rom bi, not all ram

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By or squares. Same thing here. Okay, So when the LA City

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Council Committee says that they want to
reform ethics, I'd have to say they

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have it. That's the wrong answer. It's the wrong answer. You need

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to deal with the crime, not
ethics, because people are going to jail

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not for ethics violations. They're going
to jail for criminal offenses. Do we

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need to just take a walk down
memory lane? Current Price charged with embezzlement

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and perjury. It doesn't say anything
about ethics. I'm quite sure they're you

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know, included in there somewhere.
But that's not the real problem here.

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Or you can say, Kevin deal
leone, it's not necessarily criminal in nature.

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But the racist leaked audio referring to
children as monkeys and what have you.

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That's not an ethical lapse. That's
something different. Okay, hopefully he'll

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do something criminal and he'll be put
away. Oooh said that? Uh it

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was Mark Ridley Thomas he ooh ooh, ooh ooh. He was convicted on

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seven of nineteen counts, including conspiracy, bribery, on a service's mail fraud

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and on a services wirefraud. It
didn't say ethics when he reports to prison,

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it won't be because of ethical lapses
in judgment. You can't argue that

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it's inclusive of that. But that's
not really the issue. Remember the Mayor's

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office allegations Eric Garcetti that mayor.
A bodyguard for Mayor Eric Garcetti had sued

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the city alleging that Mayor of Garcetti
he was repeatedly that the bodyguard was repeatedly

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sexually harassed by one of the mayor's
top advisors. The lawsuit claimed that Garcetti

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witnessed some of the inappropriate behavior,
including crude comments and unwanted touching, but

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did not intervene. I guess maybe
that's a lack of ethics technically possibly,

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But what about former city council member
Mitch Iglander. He was sentenced to fourteen

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months in prison back in twenty twenty
one after being convicted of lying to federal

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authorities about his dealings with a businessman
who provided him with fifteen thousand dollars in

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secret cash payments and a debauch night
in Las Vegas. Gotta love that word.

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De Bousch didn't say anything about ethics
violations. Nowhere are we talking about

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actual ethics violations in and of themselves. And you know there are at least

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two officials with the Los Angeles Department
of Water and Power, one former high

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level lawyer in the city Attorney Mike
Fure's office, and an attorney hired by

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the city were charged charged in a
different federal probe in which prosecutors said DWP

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officials and city attorneys took part in
various say it with me crimes, including

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aiding and abetting, extortion, and
bribery. I can go on and on

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and on. But when I read
that an LA City Council committee yesterday moved

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forward a series of proposed changes to
the city charger Charter and tended to bolster

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the independence of the Ethics Commission and
enhance its enforcement powers, I had to

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shake my head. It's not about
empowering an ethics commission. It's about eradicating

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the criminal behavior or stopping the individuals
who would be more inclined to engage in

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criminal behavior, because honestly, if
it were only ethical lapses, I think

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most people would be able to deal
with that. There's a fine line and

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a lot of what politicians and elected
officials do it's a fine line, but

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when it comes to criminal behavior,
that's a very big line. You have

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to try some distance to go from
legal to illegal, and getting found guilty

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and convicted on multiple counts of fraud
and bribery aiding in a betting that's not

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in the same universe. The ad
Hoc Committee on City Governance Reform voted six

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to zero in favor of these changes, which include listen to this, doubling

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the penalties for violations of the city's
Ethics Code, increasing the size of the

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five member Ethics Commission to seven from
six to seven. Big changes here,

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with the additional members appointed by the
Commission, bolsting its independence, and tightening

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conflict of interest rules. Let me
ask you this, Stefan, do you

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think we honestly have a conflict of
interest problem in La City Hall? Not

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sure? I don't think so,
though, Okay, maybe it was just

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me, Yeah, okay, because
I was thinking we had a criminal problem.

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That's what it sounds like. Okay, I just wanted to check.

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I just want to be sure,
because this doesn't make any sense. Committee

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members also amended the proposal to update
fines for violating ethics laws from what is

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currently five thousand dollars per fine to
fifteen thousand dollars per fine. Okay,

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so you triple the fine, But
does that stop people from criming. I

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know that's not a verb, but
today it is. If you could get

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people to stop criming, then you
wouldn't necessarily need to triple the penalties because

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I'm positive the people who were arrested
and convicted were not concerned with a fine.

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The fine was not the deterrent that
you thought it was. But they're

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going to up the fine from fifteen
to fifteen thousand, as well as shortening

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a deadline for making an appointment to
fill a vacancy on the Ethics Commission from

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one hundred and twenty days down to
ninety days. Oh, that's a big

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deal. Additionally, there had been
a call to eliminate an existing tear year

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term limit for the Executive Director of
the Ethics Commission, but it failed to

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pass. I don't know what to
make of this. Well, this is

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what I make of it. It's
like new windshield wipers for a car that

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doesn't even run, and you're doing
it in the proverbial middle of summer.

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You're not actually getting to the root
of the matter. You're not actually getting

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to the real issue. If we
could stop sending people from city hall to

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jail, or having them stop engaging
in the behavior which leads to them being

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indicted, arrested, convicted, then
we might be getting somewhere. But ethics,

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now that's not really it. No, no, no, that's almost

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like saying Harvey Weinstein had an ethics
problem, Bill Cosby had an ethics problem.

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R Kelly. If he just was
more ethical, we wouldn't be here.

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Sesame Workshop Writers have made a tentative
agreement with management. The WGA announced today

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maybe an hour ago, and they
narrowly skirted what would have been one of

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the first strikes spearheaded by these unionized
Sesame Workshop writers had they not reached a

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deal. And you know, after
all of the labor strife that we've had

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in the past year or so in
the entertainment industry, be it the Writers

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Guild or the SAG after or the
directors the DGA, the last thing entertainment

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industry wants on any level, even
if it's on a smaller level like this,

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is another labor stoppage. And this
is something that I did not know

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until this issue was covered in the
news. Sesame Workshop is a nonprofit organization

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that produces Sesame Street. Unionized writers
at Sesame Workshop, represented by the Writers

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Guild and Writers Guild of America West, write scripts on shows like Sesame Street,

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Helpsters, The Not Too Late Show
with Elmo. Quote. We are

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so proud to work for an organization
that values its writers, and we believe

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this new contract will positively impact writers
throughout the children's media landscape. And that's

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what the WGA Sesame Workshop Negotiating Committee
said in a statement not too long ago.

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All right, and it goes on
to say, Sesame Street truly is

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for solidarity. S is for solidarity. We are glad to have a contract

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in place that allows Sesame to do
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but this is the future of I
would say entertainment and anyone who works in

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and around entertainment full disclosure. Member
of SAG after myself and Keana. I

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want to bring you into this conversation
now because there's a second portion to the

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story where Disneyland parades and characters cast
members have also now filed for vote to

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unionize. The Actors Equity Association made
the announcement back on Wednesday. The group

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has filed cards signed by a majority
of the seventeen hundred employees seeking to have

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the National Labor Relations Board conducting an
election. I bring you in and for

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those who don't know you have a
history working at Disneyland, Yes, let's

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refresh everyone. What was your capacity
maintenance? So I used to do coram

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No, I didn't know. It's
cool. Would it have been cool to

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work on the tramp the monorailout?
I know? How about what if it

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was a Monorailuh? The monorail I
think is part of the trains, like

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the conductors and stuff. I think
they those were had in hand. Okay.

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I did quick service food and beverage
at Paradise Peer when it was Paradise

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Peer and then Pixar peer, and
then I was an entertainment or not entertainment

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sorry, I was a cast costuming
operations cast member. And then I was

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a attractions host at Toy Story Midway
Mania. Wow. Yeah, a lot

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of titles. Yeap. So they
fired you like four times? No,

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I left. The reason I'm bringing
you in and why I'm asking you about

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this. You probably know and have
seen more than most when it comes to

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parades and characters cast members connected to
those. I just watched the parade.

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I can marvel at the talent which
is on display. I can surmise at

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how much work goes on behind the
scenes to coordinate and you know, just

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try to choreograph those routines. But
I have no idea what the work environment

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is like. What would you say
the work environment was like from what you

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could see as far as the people
who are working on and in the parades,

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So the environment from my perspective as
an attractions host. We also did

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like crowd control gosh, I cannot
remember the actual title of that position,

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but we were able to do crowd
control with the parades because you're like a

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cooler a bouncer pretty much, you're
like throwing people out on their necks,

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not to that extreme, but I
was definitely like, don't walk in front

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of the horses when they're coming out, Like, don't. This isn't a

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walkway, you need to go the
other way. A lot of people.

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Yeah, yeah, that's where I
get my tough skin from. But from

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where I was standing because I was
never a part of that department. I

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was never in an entertainer in the
parades, but from the back end,

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when you would go on breaks and
stuff, they were always in their costumes.

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They were always in like rushing to
just eat and then get back into

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positions. They would be working long
hours a day because they won, they

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had to get into costume. They
would have a parade at a certain time,

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their first parade, and then hours
later they would have another parade.

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Do you know how long a typical
shift may have been for someone who was

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a main character in one of the
parades, not that I am aware,

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we put it this way? Yeah, Would they do two or three on

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a given day? Would they do
five or six? Unfortunately, I would

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not have an idea of what their
hours would be. I had. I

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didn't know any entertainment like cast members
to that extent. I did work with

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entertainment costumers, and they were always
very busy running around trying to fix costumes,

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trying to get to the next character
that they were supposed to be in.

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Sometimes they would get moved around at
the last minute to be able to

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cover for other people that would have
called out. Let me ask you this

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as a closing question. When you
were working, there was there ever any

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explicit conversation around you that you and
your other coworkers have conversations about unionization or

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is this something which is relatively new
in nature. No, we were as

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cast members. We were always talking
about the unions and stuff that we were

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in because as a Disney cast member
outside of the entertainment and character performers,

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we were already unionized. But there
was always issues with pay. There was

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always issues with scheduling. There was
always issues with how they the management would

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treat us as cast members, and
so we were always trying to seek help

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from the unions. And while they
did help to a point, sometimes it

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just wasn enough and so but it
helped a lot in the grand scheme of

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things, because scheduling was the biggest
issue. Scheduling managers would call at all

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times of the day trying to get
us to work over time, and trying

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to do things and trying to pull
stuff that wasn't right, and so we

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would always go to our union and
ask for help, and they would help

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us. And so I think it's
a great thing. So this should not

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be any surprise to anyone who is
familiar with the Disney matrix. As far

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as the employee matrix now, it
was always in conversation, all right,

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this is something we'll continue to follow. Thank you, Keima. It's later

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