WEBVTT 1 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:35.039 All right, welcome to another episode of the Death Fresh Show. I am 2 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:38.479 y'all host Young Fresh. I'm in the building with a few of my nearest 3 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:40.759 and dires. You know, I got my knick can beats okay, Tommy 4 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:45.560 mister and Central and what's that? And you know my my alcoholic friend Toriano 5 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:52.840 Carson build up survived single. That's right, really, I mean ahead, 6 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:59.920 he was there at eleven. I I was. I was at work, 7 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.840 so I was out there and it was funny because I wrote in the group 8 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.359 chat. I was like, so we being racist tonight. Tory was like, 9 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.359 yo, I'm here already. I looked at my watching like I just 10 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.239 got to work. Like I was like, I just got to work. 11 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.319 I'm like, he's gonna be drunk and sleep by the time I get off. 12 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.079 Then when I got off, something still party. It was still party. 13 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.719 It never stopped. It's like, y'all get down, stop won't stop, 14 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.959 and people just kept coming, sitting in with us, eating tacos, 15 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:37.560 binding is necessary shots where ye shout out to Korean Now they slid through and 16 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:42.359 Kim. It was like a revolving door. Friend, where were you bo? 17 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:46.480 All right, Mexican? Yeah, that day Mexican. Is it on 18 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:52.680 the north side. Yeah, you came up there on my birthday. I 19 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:55.760 was just I was there for you. I didn't know where. You gotta 20 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.319 remember, you gotta remember. He don't drive us. I used to live 21 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:04.920 behind going out. Yeah, I don't beck it. It just that's the 22 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.199 that's the hood is Megazican spot on the north Man. It's actually the most 23 00:02:07.199 --> 00:02:10.280 delicious. Yeah, when you get your food, you get your food is 24 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:15.479 actually really good and you will be Chicken is great. Try the mango wings. 25 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:22.680 I haven't had on a tour of the wings. And how many I 26 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:24.680 did not? He had a like fifty, No, I did not when 27 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:30.960 different flavors you had one flavor of fifty wings I had. I did not 28 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.080 have fifty wings. I had maybe eight ten because I come in sixes. 29 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.319 How many of the so you have multiple sexes? Yeah, you can just 30 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:39.919 you couldn't just get it twenty four piece. I didn't think about it like 31 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:44.159 that. I wasn't that hungry at first, Like I wasn't that hungry, 32 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.080 but but you knew you was going, which is okay. So that's why 33 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:51.560 I bought the first settle wings, because you know, hungry gets some food. 34 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.560 Grab some wings. Get the drinking realize that Kila hit me kind of 35 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.919 quick say, oh, the chicken is not gonna be enough. Let me 36 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.960 try these mangoes that look good and look fired. Twine had wings and they 37 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.000 were just sitting there, which was pissing me off because the wind was blowing 38 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.400 the hot sauce. It was mad, Just like, bro, you waste 39 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:10.919 some food here. So I ordered me some hot wings that I tried the 40 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.240 mango. The mango was fired. Hey, let me get another order of 41 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.319 the mangoes. Getting some tacicles while you at it. It was all kind 42 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:23.080 of cultural appropriation of the wind. Don't we culture appropriate? That was of 43 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:28.800 that? I mean, Antonio, And does it come because you're Toriana and 44 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.639 then I'm one? So like, yeah, I would have been good to 45 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:37.439 your Mark? Right, Why would you call me that? Because that's your 46 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:46.919 name name you Mark? That's so that's so white, right, Mark is 47 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:53.039 about this up there with Chad. But forget I forget my thought that I 48 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:59.120 was saying before air you cannot go back and judge things from today's eyes in 49 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:02.520 the past like you again my point just wonder before I forget my point, 50 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.479 My point was literally, you cannot go back and look at a hip hip 51 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:10.800 hippy to the hippy to the hip hip hop and it don't stop and then 52 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:16.560 say there was no essence or nothing to that fucking lyric, because hold on, 53 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:24.079 because to us that lived through that era, that ship was groundbreaking. 54 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:29.079 That ship moved crowds that just because nobody, nobody was doing anything before that. 55 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:31.680 That was that was the first that you heard of it. So if 56 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.319 somebody came out with the first that you heard of it, and then thirty 57 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:39.040 years later somebody comes out with something simple as something that came out thirty years 58 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.920 ago, is that a fair comparison? You actually thirty years late on some 59 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:46.399 ship that I already hadn't been said, right, So yeah, then it 60 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:53.000 was simple, but it was outstanding. So here's my beef with you old 61 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:57.920 niggas. I say, you old niggas very respectful, Yeah, because you're 62 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:02.759 going to be one. Yeah, bro, not going to be I'm already 63 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:08.439 there like the young niggas that I I ain't been here with old school yet, 64 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:13.600 but I know I'm getting them. Oh yeah, I ain't got hit 65 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.759 with those yet, but I know I'm getting though. But my my gripe 66 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:20.879 was like, so you old niggas respectfully, A look at the young niggas 67 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:25.920 of the generation of music that you know I listened to or that is coming 68 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.519 behind us, and we'll be like, oh, this shit is trash. 69 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.959 These niggas can't wrap. And I'm like, well, I don't think that's 70 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:38.639 fair. When we came from a hip hop a hippy to the hippy to 71 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.240 the hip hip hobby. It don't stop and niggas, boss, stay fucking 72 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.079 mind. I'm gonna stop you right there, because the fact that it came 73 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.759 from where it came from. The idea behind being an artist back then was 74 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:57.959 to top the person before you, so you improved on it every time you 75 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.360 ryan, you didn't copy, you came up with your own ship. That 76 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:02.680 like he said that, I'm gonna say my ship a little bit better. 77 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:09.959 That's not that. That's not what's going on right now. A universal rule 78 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:14.720 that nobody was allowed. I know everybody had to be original, okay, 79 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.439 but I'm not saying that anyone that's biting my My my point. It's like 80 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:23.879 you you saying that niggas can't rap, and it's simple. That's what a 81 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:27.680 lot of people it's mumble wrap. It's simplistic. There's no to it. 82 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.399 They're gonna ain't no OMP to it. And I'm like, but you can't 83 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.319 say that about these young niggas when we came from a time we're looking back 84 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:38.040 at it. It's just like it just it was hot. I'm not saying 85 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.519 it was trash. It wasn't no MP to it, but it was still 86 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:44.720 it was very simple. Okay. If my point to this is it was 87 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.000 still all simplistic. It's what I'm saying. That's not to say it's bad 88 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:54.079 or it's trash. It's just it's very Uh, it's very easy to get 89 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.360 it, catch us on. It's very easy. It's party, right, 90 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:00.439 Okay, look at uh uh comparison. Look at the first Nintendo that came 91 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:08.360 out eight big game, but a and B button and four direct directional pad 92 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:13.120 that went four different ways. A video game that you could only go forwards 93 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:20.079 to backwards, one dimensional. Now, somebody came out today and made a 94 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:25.519 game, not even the system, but just a game where you could only 95 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:30.399 go two different ways, like Mario my favorite game. Does that people would 96 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:35.319 look back and say there's nothing to this game, which is not true, 97 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.439 which would be true in today's era. There's nothing to the game. It 98 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:46.279 just goes backwards and forwards. But you cannot go back and then say it's 99 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:50.000 just like Mario and that ship was trashed too, because when Mario came out, 100 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:56.600 that ship had niggas who normally played outside in the house for eight nine 101 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.319 hours at a time. You don't. As a matter of fact, I 102 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:01.120 could do one. It's gonna sound like an insult, but it's not. 103 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:09.120 You're not qualified to talk about what happened back then because you didn't live in 104 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.360 that era. You didn't see the impact that had both personally and culturally. 105 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.600 Is I can't talk about what James Brown music was because I'm not from that 106 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.920 era. I can say if I like it or if I don't like it, 107 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.319 but I could never call a trash. I could never say it was 108 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:31.000 great because I didn't live in that era to see what it had personally as 109 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:35.039 far as effect goes to a community, to a people. Also, again 110 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.679 I want to state that I never said this ship was bad. No, 111 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:43.320 you said it was simplistic, and it's still simple. It wasn't simple, 112 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.840 but it was very complimenting. Else was doing. You take a fench to 113 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.919 it, because in my like love for it, that shit was difficult to 114 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.039 do then, like you just didn't do it, Like, how did you 115 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:54.679 come up with it? How did you come up with that? It's a 116 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.559 whole different thought process. She got thirty years, forty years of that thought 117 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:03.360 process evolving over time, and somebody chooses wait not to actually listen to it 118 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.519 and call it old and not not relevant and make us some simple shit like 119 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:11.000 it's the hot shit, It ain't. It ain't that hot, it's not 120 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.759 as creative as it could be. I looked at it like a retro though 121 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:22.600 it's not paying homage, though it's not paying who's they do. There's several 122 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:28.720 examples of them saying it ain't, But then there are several listen, but 123 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:33.000 there are examples of those who did who there are people who respect what came 124 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.639 before that I haven't. I haven't heard it, but if I heard it, 125 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.440 I would give them. I'm not a nigga that I look at it 126 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.960 like I'm not gonna disrespect some shit then, like I like, I enjoy 127 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:46.519 hip hop. I used to rap, and I under my favorite rapper is 128 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.200 probably a simplistic nigga. At times. There are times where he'll give you 129 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:52.120 some shit you be like, damn that made me think it ain't be some 130 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.559 ship where it's ABC one two three, but it's still called But if it's 131 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:01.080 still cold, I mean, it's not simplistic. As a rapper, I 132 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:03.559 would I would hope that I would have hoped that you would have given Cougie 133 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.679 rap way more props than that's simple, when he was probably the most complex 134 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:13.519 rapper in his time. But yeah, know like you was saying, that's 135 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.080 me listening to it now, yeah, versus me being fifteen sixteen with Cougi 136 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.240 rap drop and that's the dopest ship. There was nobody touching dude when he 137 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.200 came out. Literally in the conversation we had Tommy, would you refuse to 138 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:30.600 acknowledge that I never said he was like I never said Folks was trash. 139 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.720 I didn't say it was weak. I just said that ryme, scheme and 140 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:39.159 ryan pattern in which he was rapping. It was very simple now now and 141 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.480 now now it could be seen simple one because it's been repeated several times for 142 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.559 several artists. And that's all I said. It was the way he was 143 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.080 rapping on that song. No, I didn't say the bars was trash? 144 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.440 Was ABC on That whole statement is wrong because it wasn't simple back then. 145 00:10:54.519 --> 00:11:00.080 Niggas wasn't sitting on corners doing Cypher's. Back then, rap was something that 146 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:03.679 was unheard of in that era, so to do it was very complicated. 147 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.440 As a matter of fact, to be signed as a rap artist was very 148 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.320 complicated back then in actuality. At the same time, that song that you 149 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.080 heard run DMC was that there there at their their peak and motherfuckers was swearing 150 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.720 my run DMC talk about a simple rhyme scheme, that's the most simplest rhyme 151 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.720 scheme in the world. But then cougie rapper is spitting like that, You're 152 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.799 like it's night and day that. As a matter of fact, this is 153 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:35.120 also the same error Kumo d too right, heard I go to work and 154 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:41.039 you heard how he went off that we're never gonna see out of hour. 155 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.279 But that's why I say, people aren't qualified to go back and talk about 156 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:48.440 things that they truly didn't spence. And you know what, when you say 157 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.879 that, you're absolutely right. I may not be qualified. I'm not qualified 158 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:54.679 to speak about a lot of shit I talk about. I say that. 159 00:11:54.960 --> 00:12:00.639 I say this in multiple different spaces, just like the people that you get 160 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.600 a twenty three year old kid now and I asked him who's the greatest of 161 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:05.960 all time in basketball? And they say Jordan. I hate that. That's 162 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.039 like when people be like pocket Biggie. I hate it when you're not from 163 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:13.200 that era, don't say it. And that's okay. To My problem with 164 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.000 that whole statement is, I'm forty one years old and I barely remember Jordan's 165 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.919 first three rings. And I'm forty one. How are you at twenty three, 166 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.919 twenty five, thirty one, thirty three, thirty four, thirty five 167 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.559 going to tell me that Jordan is a go. You're going off something you 168 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.200 heard, not something you watch, you witnessed, or anything. Because as 169 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.679 many arguments that you can make as Jordan is to go, I can make 170 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.279 that he's not the go because I watched him play. I know what he 171 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:46.879 went through to get to the first fucking finals that you don't count that you 172 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:48.559 don't say as a matter of fact, I remember when he came back from 173 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.639 playing baseball. Mind you, nobody made him retire. He chose to retire. 174 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.519 He was trashing baseball. He came back and then they got put out 175 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:03.440 the fucking playoff. Jordan's career was only six years and then I wasn't speak 176 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.679 on the career of him just being trashed. I mean being on a trash 177 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.120 team scoring a whole bunch of points, like Doll was cold, like you 178 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.000 know, he was like whatever. It's almost like when, uh, well, 179 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.200 who's who's a hot player that was on a scrubby team, Like right 180 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:24.519 now, uh, you could do Damian Lillard Lillard for sure, like damn 181 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.320 dog cold will ever getting he helped, Well, he scored a lot of 182 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.840 points, dog or flashy of shit. But you know, want to play 183 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:35.039 in Portland. I'm just saying brains up there. But Chicago was the same 184 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.399 way. In Chicago it is I might. So that's why I tell people 185 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.519 sometimes you're not qualified to talk about things just because you weren't there to experience. 186 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.279 I feel like, so to make statements that this person was trash or 187 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.480 this person didn't have no Yeah, you could go back and talk about Bill 188 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.799 Russell. Let's say his style of play was simplistic. It got that man, 189 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.399 how many rains. I mean, his style of play might have been, 190 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:03.279 but for the time that that was basketball, that's what was So how 191 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:05.679 come you can't incorporate that to music. I didn't say that. I just 192 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:09.879 said it was simple. That's but it's not simple. It was complicated. 193 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:15.000 Then, okay for the time being of what hip hop was in the late 194 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.639 eighties, early eighties, then yeah, you might be right in late seventies, 195 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.960 early eight So when did that song come out that I was like, 196 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:35.600 unapologetically that was the Symphony eighty eight? Yeah, I know exactly. Yeah, 197 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:37.840 and in nineteen eighty eight. I have a whole entire show dedicated to 198 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.519 all the damn motherfucking songs that came out of nineteen eighty eight. That was 199 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:48.519 probably the heaviest year of hip hop history as far as leases and and like 200 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:52.120 strong hip hop content. And in the midst of that, that's that is 201 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.440 still revered as like a classic joint in eight from eighty eight, like all 202 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.320 the songs that I got it put up the damn playlist, like God, 203 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.960 damn that eighty eight is the wood Tang triumph of its terror. Yeah, 204 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.840 that's what you can describe. Yeah, because everybody had a favorite verse, 205 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.039 but everybody knew every and the debate on who should have gone last COUCHI Rapp 206 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:20.879 and big that it came was big that it came versus simple most just just 207 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:28.000 the simple. When you look back at it, wasn't you had your You 208 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.960 had your Every rap always changes or rap always evolves. I should say that 209 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:37.080 you had your rap of I mean your era of as you would call it, 210 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.879 simplistic rap, where niggas were basically making nursery rhymes. And you fast 211 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:48.399 forward, you can actually split it off between uh nursery rhyme yepp. So 212 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:56.600 wait, gangster rap and you gotta split it because because the East had theirs 213 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.440 with l L and all of them doing their things, and then you go 214 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:06.200 to the Way and then a gangster rap gets introduced. Then you you go 215 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.639 go and then you get the South going. So you got all the motherfucker's 216 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.559 coming out to South, the family and all of them they coming out to 217 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:17.279 South as you know, individual artists. Then you fast forward and now you 218 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:22.600 start getting your jay z No two box and biggies East Coast and West, 219 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.000 and really the beef is all I mean, not the beef, but the 220 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:29.360 real competition was always East Coast West. You know, thank God for Andre 221 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.399 three thousand and scar facing them down to the South that made it relevant. 222 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.000 Now you are not gonna sit there in disrespect Percy Miller, because if it 223 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:41.919 was not Percy, South would not have risen respectfully. That is the stupidest 224 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:47.879 statement. How long had the ghettle boys been ghetto boying and all of a 225 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:51.559 sudden, no letting, it hit the scene and everybody is listening. You're 226 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:56.759 giving all the credit in the South to the Master Peak. Master Pe put 227 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:00.960 out an album every week, scarface, wouldn't the fucking start before that, 228 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:07.640 or like outcasts didn't exist? That's simplistic hip. Got shit on that. 229 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:19.880 All I said was niggas Miller, Percy Miller. Okay, I'm not saying 230 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.079 that masterter P was the reason why the South. Just say, let me 231 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:26.359 that's why he did. Just say that. I said, you were not 232 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:33.279 I said, we're not gonna disrespectedly Percy Miller. I didn't. You never 233 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.599 let me get to that error just because you can say something. Okay, 234 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:45.240 I said, thank God for Andre three niggas. But I was there, 235 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.519 say sometime, and you were the gram. It was round about the same 236 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:55.039 time, No limit and cash money was really they were everywhere in the South. 237 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:56.920 I was never let me get to that point. I'm going through a 238 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.839 timeline and you jump in and say that Master P made the South. That's 239 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:06.000 completely false. I'm not gonna say completely. I won't say completely. He 240 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:12.599 wasn't completely, but he damned I would SiZ. He intensified the independent label 241 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:19.279 push and he made major record labels see that a way they're taking my money. 242 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.440 We need to do something about this ship. That is completely fine. 243 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.640 And I agree with that statement wholehearted. But he didn't. But I didn't 244 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.039 get to that point yet. I was still going a pocket biggie. And 245 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:36.960 then I said, thank God for Andre three thousand and outcasting the South to 246 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:40.079 make them, of course right. And as a matter of fact, it's 247 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:41.640 right after that. It was right in the same error. The same time 248 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:48.960 Frank master P and three got big cash. Money came about what two three 249 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.359 years later, Yeah, and everybody started rising. But I'm not giving master 250 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.680 p sole credit for everything that I'm not intricate part. Yes, but I'm 251 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:02.240 not giving them correct No, because you're the gay people like Uncle Luke that 252 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:15.400 had been around four years because they disrespected more than anybody coming out of hard 253 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:22.720 came out before j K. Speaking of speaking of Two Live Crew, a 254 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:29.240 lot of people tend to forget about them because they're the reason why explicitness is 255 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.480 such a big thing in hip hop. Uncle Luke is the reason why. 256 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:34.599 Explicitness. Yeah, Two Live Crew was a part of it, but it's 257 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.720 all because Uncle Luke. That's why you used to have on your tape, 258 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:44.160 you know, so we we didn't used to add that. I didn't actually 259 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.359 look at Uncle Luca as the South. It was Florida, and I think 260 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:56.559 that's what a lot of I think that's the problem the bottom. It's like 261 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.119 you hear when you hear South music, you think cup like U G K, 262 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:07.319 Kettle Boys, uh Kiki watchs all of them, and you technically don't 263 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:14.440 naturally group Two Live Crew man because he's the most disrespected hip hop artists ever. 264 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:18.799 People should thank god that Uncle Luke came through and did with it. 265 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.720 Uncle Luke took all the bullets so niggas could get through the door. Remember 266 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.039 the first to go through the doors, the one that always gets shot. 267 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.160 Uncle Luke was taken to the Supreme Court. Uncle Luke was threatened with jail 268 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:33.799 time all this shit that he beat so niggas could get up and rap freely. 269 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:38.039 So fucking Suk Suki hnnah can show her ass. None of that will 270 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:45.119 happen if it wasn't for Uncle Luke, and there just made a Sukia reference, 271 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:51.039 like you gotta give credit. If there was no Uncle Luke, there 272 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.279 would be no pussy rap. But if there's no pussy rap, there's a 273 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.880 lot of women rapper. I wouldn't have Agan, no Stallions, all of 274 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.799 them. And I have to say this because I was a witness to when 275 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.279 Luke Luke, When Luke was, when Luke was performing, no matter where 276 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.960 it was, and I happened to be in South Beach when there was a 277 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:14.559 music commence How can I be down which was a huge music conference in like 278 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:18.839 ninety five, I can't remember. It was when Luke performed. Every fucking 279 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.799 artist that was down there, like we're going to Luke show, they went, 280 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.079 they went, They gave Doug all props, documentary, he'd been scared. 281 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:30.319 But the long when it comes to lifetime achieving awards, Luke should have 282 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:34.440 every woman. No, And that's why I said he's the most disrespected artist 283 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:40.480 ever. Give him more. You make a movie about n WA and their 284 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.079 their impact to music while it was big and was great, and I do 285 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.640 agree with it, and a lot of big names came out at the NWA. 286 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.119 Nobody looks that Luke Skywalker, it started with him, did all this 287 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:57.440 shit, so they this nigga got beat down and drugs so these motherfuckers could 288 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:03.400 fly. Remember, they weren't threatened the NWA with jail time. They were 289 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:07.079 just the Supreme Court was writing cease and the sis letters and stuff to them. 290 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.599 They were threatening to lock up Luke for his music. Technically, the 291 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:14.720 only reason why NWA ever got on anybody radar was the fuck the police saw 292 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:21.200 if they never released that song NA just mind and mind you Hey, we 293 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.720 want some Pussy was out before that, so they didn't get funck about it 294 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:29.039 we want some pussy. But the police when Uncle Luke said it years before 295 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.599 that, well along the lines of that, with the Hay Lizard Lizard all 296 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.400 this shit and the girls dancing and stuff, they wanted Luke and jail. 297 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:44.440 He was pointing their minds. He was never called Uncle Luke trash. No. 298 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:47.200 I'm not saying no, no me personally. I'm saying for the people 299 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:48.599 out there. I never called you can't go back and look at you know 300 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.640 all Luke and two Live Crew and what was the other group he had it 301 00:22:53.720 --> 00:23:00.400 was two Yeah used them for dissing people though you can't go I can look 302 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:06.680 at them groups and then say it's okay when ship to Birthday song is still 303 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:12.079 one of the biggest songs you play with somebody's birthday. You got in there, 304 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.799 in there thirty five years later, still singing it. What's that number 305 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:21.960 one zodiac sign? The chicks sweating and bending over and shaking the ass and 306 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:23.759 all that stuff to this song. But now that you say that, like 307 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:29.960 I saw a TikTok about I think it was mister you know, mister Fabers. 308 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.079 He was talking about too short and when he was running down like the 309 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:37.279 ship too short dead for hip hop? I was like, damn, do 310 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.000 we not like, do we not give too short enough love? No? 311 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:44.680 No for what he did as I didn't even know too short sign a little 312 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.640 John and didn't let him out of his contract, and then a little John 313 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.240 like blew a business, mega producer, and shit, I was like, 314 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:52.519 that's that's hip hop. Fact. I didn't know nine times teen you get 315 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.920 your your flowers when you die. I remember going, yeah, that was 316 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.960 fucked up. I remember going down the family and in Mississippi and my cousin's 317 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.160 head came. I don't know where that came. From and it was playing 318 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:07.519 Born to Mac. I never heard no ship like that in my life, 319 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.000 like two shars. But the song was long as hell, was just a 320 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.359 drum track and he was just talked about simple rhymes. I don't know for 321 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:22.599 sure. It was simple as Fucken Hayden's was so slow and simple, long 322 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:27.799 because he ended it with bitch was cool, freaky tail, That's what song. 323 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.400 I was like, this is a song, this as long as fun 324 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:41.359 all time. I don't know, because it changes always, it's always changed 325 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.039 because like mine has never changed, but that mine has never changed. But 326 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.640 like there are people that I frequent I like because like right now, like 327 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:49.880 right now, at the stage of my life I'm in. Is Benny the 328 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:55.720 Butcher. You've been on Benny for a minute, Doug, he can't miss. 329 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:57.720 I've never heard a song where he missed, never heard a song where 330 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:02.000 he missed. You know, he even when Conway came bad, him as 331 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.039 hard as he could. And you know Conway might have had the better verse. 332 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.599 I've never heard Benny missing. You've been on I want a lot like 333 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.640 before, like we was having. I don't know, but my personal favorite 334 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.960 will always be m I don't know. Woman was talking about and the Wrestler 335 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:23.720 still think that first album was trash No that was titled after Wrestler. That 336 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.599 was how I started listening to the niggas. I was like, man, 337 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.119 let me click. And I don't know how I started. They were on 338 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.400 Jimmy Fallon one night. I was watching Jimmy Fallon and I was like, 339 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.319 these niggas sound so much to me like wou Tang Clan. And I went 340 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.160 back and listened to the album and I'm like dog. After that, I 341 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.640 was addicted. I'm the biggest grizzl. The fan out said. When Conway 342 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.160 left the group, I'm like that, what's the name of that group right 343 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.240 now? Because I always wanted it to be west Side if What'side had left 344 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.640 out of been fine because I hate what's that first? Like what's like this 345 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:07.920 whole? But we turned the corner. We turned the corner, Like what 346 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:15.880 the fuck is this thinking talking about? I don't know I like it speaking 347 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.039 of Coogie Rap because when Coogie Rap had come back at one point, um 348 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:23.119 somehow you looked up with thirty eight Spech And when I first heard thirty eighth 349 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:26.240 Spech, I was like, I'm not really liking thirty eight Spech, like 350 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.880 when I heard him with Coogie Rap, but then I heard him with Griselda 351 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:34.480 and the Nigga I like, I like thirty. It's like Lan always says, 352 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:40.160 it depends on who you put people with. Because one hated Nas until 353 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:45.200 his recent run, because now his beats match his flow. I've always hated 354 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.799 Nas beat selection. Listen to a lot of I mean, have you listened 355 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.160 you know Griselda, like a lot of albums and stuff. Okay, so 356 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:59.559 previous to this, Griselda always had to what I considered like the most simplicity, 357 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.240 and they wouldn't have a drunk, they wouldn't have drums. Until the 358 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.359 uh, Bennie the Butcher got hit Boy to do yes yeah, And I 359 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:12.599 was like, oh my god, Bennie the Butcher with real beats, everybody 360 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.880 is hit man, saving everybody's career right now. Like how you had that 361 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.279 epiphany when you heard that is how I felt with like Nah, And when 362 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:23.200 it was like Nah's a hit boy, I was like, well, I 363 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.920 like hitboy, hit boyd Drake shit Drake be bumping. Even I don't drunk 364 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.119 like that, some of the songs be bumping. I listen to that. 365 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:36.480 I was like, you ain't gotta like him that at this point if you 366 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:41.079 hate Drake. Drake also at times Drake used to be a happy spider, 367 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.519 but now his bar are getting very simplestic. Because I was listening to NonStop 368 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.839 that beat hits hard, but Drake don't talk about shit on this whole damn 369 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:56.119 song. I just hit the switch. Flip flip, got so many memorable 370 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.160 him, even the song he got eight up on by fucking uh uh was 371 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:07.720 a little baby? Oh uh, I know, I can't think of it. 372 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:12.839 A little baby is what's the name of that fucking song? What's a 373 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:18.880 little baby? Yeah? It was a little baby not familiar. I feel 374 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.680 like at this point Drake is so far ahead as I could be wrong, 375 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.119 but I feel like Drake is so far ahead of niggas. We're here, 376 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.640 it's just twenty twenty three, and he's been rolling since two thousand and nine. 377 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:36.480 Ye like being out since two thousand and nine. But then really like 378 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.440 putting your like yeah, but I'm saying like when he came out in two 379 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.319 thousand and nine, people he was all the buzzs, like niggas like, 380 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:48.079 have you heard this nigga before him? And Drake and Cole, Yeah, 381 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.920 and dog ain't let go. He has not let go a radio y'all has 382 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.640 a radio on a choked Drake is the Drake is the male version of the 383 00:28:55.680 --> 00:29:00.359 answer, um might be a little bit better, Bro, do you think 384 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.960 Drake better than might be a little bit better? In regards to influence Dog 385 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.240 Company on everybody ship, He's at everybody on this ship. I was just 386 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.599 like a musical, like where are you at? Like to me that I'm 387 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:17.000 just like music, like when I when I computed, Oh yeah, I 388 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.720 know that song dog Little Baby a nigga live on this song and it still 389 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:29.279 was a good song by Drake. Baby has Little Baby has his moments where 390 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:32.200 he goes crazy. Speaking of eating up on the track, I know you 391 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:33.960 like Benny the Butcher, but why do I'll let Jay cole on that track? 392 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:45.200 What is it? The Cadillac dog Jay cole Man when he when he 393 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.319 when he gets a feature, which he don't do often, he annihilates you. 394 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.079 He just did Dirk song and he kept like that. He killed that 395 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.799 ship. Stirk was like, no, I'm not rapping after you rap. 396 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:02.799 I'm just gonna say no. But Benny rapping at the un arrogantly he came 397 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.400 back like he had some ship and he was nice. I was like, 398 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.559 he could he could have kept his first off that They made so many skits 399 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:14.039 about that damn song I just played. That's ridiculous because everybody who has ears 400 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.599 nose that little baby just body Drake and wasn't a dis or anything. He 401 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.920 just out wrapped him on his own song. So there's one where they showed 402 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.759 like little Baby going to the Bootfall casual and get to wrapping, and then 403 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:32.279 out of nowhere, this nigga starts turning into a super saying he Rake was 404 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:36.680 like, how much more powerful can he get? That? The animated one? 405 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.799 Ye? Yeah, the animated ones. Funny. I saw the one 406 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.400 they did when it was it was him and Dirt. They did a song 407 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:47.160 for the DJ Kelli. Shit, yeah, that little baby wrapping and then 408 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:53.480 like Dirt was from the Walk in the Booth and hold on keep going all 409 00:30:53.519 --> 00:31:00.359 right, and all of a sudden and he just go crazy. I can't 410 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.839 win the feature actually bodies. You know, I don't think Drake cared though 411 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.559 I know I don't think I don't care, but he knows what the end 412 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.559 result is. The spectators we like, Yeah, but that's what makes us 413 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:18.240 start listening to whoever the feature artists is. Because I'm not saying that Eminem 414 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.519 wasn't big on Renegade, but a lot more niggas paid attention to him after 415 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.000 Renegade. You know who did that for me? Beanie Siegel on which song? 416 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.400 First time? The first time I had shute song? Can never never? 417 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:41.240 What the route song? Really never had? I think men skills argue 418 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.160 about that because he was like, you know, the best person on Rockefeller 419 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.839 was Beans. To me, it was being, it was being I was 420 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:52.279 like, as far as just rapping, as far as just rapping, it 421 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.119 was Jay wanted to give believe you should gave the banks he should No, 422 00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.839 no, no, But Jans couldn't sound yeah, so I get it. 423 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.599 We tried two beings wouldn't leave the streets being said, I don't know was 424 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:07.720 that the which Calar podcast? Nega podcast? He was like, he just 425 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:12.279 wasn't ready and he didn't understand why Jay left him in court because the judge 426 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.839 asked him, would you be responsible not would you, you know, keep 427 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:20.400 him out of trouble and then would you be responsible you know for beings? 428 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.680 Jay told him on lest no, and he cried about that because he felt 429 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.480 like Dray betrayer, I mean Jay betray No. But he looks back at 430 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.119 that now he's like, dude, I was wild. Jay had stuff he 431 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:36.519 was trying to do in place. He was trying to come down, and 432 00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:39.599 I like, nigga, I've been trying this entire time, like I'm trying, 433 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.400 let's do this, let's do this, let me get you right to 434 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:46.200 here, and then you keep sucking up mind you want to watch this nigga. 435 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.960 Beans was like, Jay could have asked me to go off. Somebody 436 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.000 not have did it with no question. He's like, the judge didn't even 437 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.720 ask this nigga, you know, to be responsible. He just asked, 438 00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.359 what you know you see after him? Would you do this? So he 439 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.480 just wanted he want to hold a lot. Hope was like, no, 440 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.880 he want to Hope to really tell that he was What he wanted, in 441 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.880 my opinion, was for Hope to say, yes, I'll look after him, 442 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.680 Yes, I'll make sure he stay out of trouble. Hold like he 443 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.880 didn't get to be a billionaire by being stupid. He's like, dog, 444 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.240 this nigga's lost cause he needs to go to jail. I don't care how 445 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.799 much money he made me, how cool he is, how good of friends 446 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.079 we is? This nigga need to be locked up. That's a harsh reality 447 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:30.440 that some of your friends don't be ready for. Like, Bro, you 448 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:34.559 probably need to go sit down, dude, do a year or two and 449 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.000 come back with time. Timmy was looking after me, and Timmy was like, 450 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:45.000 you know, because I'm sure Jay would have seen the potential in Beings. 451 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:50.880 He put him on the damn ninety sevens like any feature. That was 452 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.119 any feature like his album. He didn't really get the just dude, he 453 00:33:55.200 --> 00:34:00.759 did until he got to the be Coming because when the b Comeing came out, 454 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.839 that album was a complete album from track one the track twelve. That 455 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:09.239 ship was good. Now his first his first two albums, and they were 456 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.239 okay, they had some hits on them, but a complete album the Becoming 457 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.039 Listen to that ship. Yeah, I'll go back to As a matter of 458 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.119 fact, what do we use real bar talk. We use one of the 459 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:30.840 tracks off to Becoming, the Him and the Red Man Dune it's on it. 460 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.760 But other hip hop news, I can't go on this ways on that 461 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.880 one. You're right, that's my favorite being Jermaine dupri And so is this 462 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.800 official now they're really going to do this battle. Yeah, because I keep 463 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:49.880 saying podcast niggas speculating versus announced it. Now, I feel like it should 464 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.199 be a two part versus because these niggas got hits every word, they could 465 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.960 do rap, they could do R and Bay could do it. I feel 466 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.119 like it should be a two part versus. What you think? Why pick 467 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.559 your best twenty? Yeah? This is this is This is the deepest on 468 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.800 the versus ever, you know. And I'm glad they're doing this because like 469 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.239 your homie, he'd be disrespecting the shit out of j D. And I 470 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:20.679 didn't. I never appreciate it. Who scales? Oh and I get it? 471 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.440 Did he is? Did he? But niggas be acting like Jermaine Dre 472 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.719 down here and had a conversation with him out I had him many times and 473 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.679 and you know what, it's not that skills really he take pictures from the 474 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:35.719 parking lot, tell me here here, don't be here, so he like 475 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:42.480 like skills don't because he did that, skills don't necessarily like not give the 476 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.679 credit. No Jermaine several stats, no, no, no, no, 477 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.039 he said, he said Jermaine Dre, but he doesn't think that you know 478 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.199 his Basically he thinks his arms is too short to box with got and you 479 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:59.039 think who actually make but what skills? Don't understand? I told him any 480 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:04.519 times be the kid depends on what you picked. See if you if that's 481 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:09.280 the strategy, If I am Puffy and I sit up and picked the twenty 482 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.599 songs I like the most, or I think we're the best and they're not 483 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.599 really those twenty songs. Jad can't eat you a live because j d has 484 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:24.480 hits. If did you know it's like a one second It's just like when 485 00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:31.320 niggas when Jada kiss went against uh Fabricus and everybody, including myself, like 486 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:37.360 everybody was down fabulous, it's fabulous a fabulous and then Jada kiss ate him 487 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.880 a lot same way, like I just made a stat. Then Nelly shit 488 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.960 didn't age well because everybody was like, oh Nelly gonna wash Luda. But 489 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.280 never never, I've never even said that, And I think Diddy would do 490 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.159 the same thing. He I think Diddy will pick the right songs, not 491 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.519 necessarily because he's the better of the two, right, I think because Diddy 492 00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.400 is not a hands on nigga to me, like did he get to credit 493 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:07.440 because he he he he's a scientist. Yeah, so he's probably gonna know 494 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.239 how to curate his twenty songs, probably a little bit better than j D. 495 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:13.719 But that's because that's what the fuck you do. He said, that's 496 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.480 what that's all he does. I mean, but from my standpoint, like 497 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.079 j D came might make a bed, also writes the fucking song, like 498 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.719 he might have his head, he might have his hands in too many things. 499 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:29.239 I think, mean, he not great. I think it's gonna be 500 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:36.119 interesting. I think the fact this nigga had big, this nigga Okay, 501 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.159 yeah he did have big, but how many big songs can he played before 502 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:44.199 everybody starts saying, okay, you just want to be versus I just I 503 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.639 just I just did. We just did a peyton ship at Vibes where it 504 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:52.239 was tupop versus Biggy and I made the playlist, and uh, Chrishella came 505 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.800 even she was like, there's a lot of tuopoc plan. I'm like, 506 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.719 he got, he got, He got way more songs than Big Biggie. 507 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.039 The shuffle did wasn't shuffling, And that's no disrespect the biggest, biggest one, 508 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.719 my bigger. We got two albums and some scattered features, Yeah, 509 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:10.119 yeah, and some and some remakes. Remember Pop got more albums when he 510 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.559 did in some nigga's whole career. Yeah, Biggie is the Penny Hardaway of 511 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.239 hip hop. Oh but I think I think, I think that, I 512 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.679 think that I think that j D will hop in more time. Just what 513 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.880 had been the biggest de Penny Hardaway of hip hop? Which is the most 514 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:34.480 ludicrous statement I've ever heard. Did you watch you? You come from that 515 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.199 nineties era, but did you watch Penny Hardaway's Penny hard Away not called yes? 516 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.920 What's Biggie called yes? Your Penny Hardaway's career get cut short of the 517 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.599 knee injury. Yeah, Biggie died. But here here, here's the thing, 518 00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.760 if you wanna look at it in that aspect, Biggie was a champion, 519 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.639 multiple time champion. How do you only have two whole albums to your 520 00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.400 name and you're considered one of the greatest of all time? That that that's 521 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.800 who is considering this nigga to be the greatest of all time the world? 522 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:09.079 Will you ask anybody they talk you literally just said you hate when young niggas 523 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.239 put pocketing Biggie on their list and they do that because the niggas who were 524 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:20.360 there really do put Big in Poc on their list because they really are that 525 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:25.119 good. You gotta gotta give credit where you do you thirty four? Thirty 526 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:30.400 four? Okay, I'm forty one. So when Life After Death came out, 527 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:37.679 who you would have been? How old? Because that was ninety ninety 528 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.440 six, nine seven, Because I hold you've been nice seven one years, 529 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:49.639 Mamie would have been thirteen or four years younger than nine, So you're nineteen. 530 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:54.280 You did not but sperience notorious sugs. But if I say armed in 531 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.920 Dangerous, ain't too many can bang with us? Straight up? We know 532 00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:02.800 angel does? What's okay? So keep that in mind. You're nine. 533 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.199 You were nine years old when this album came up. But to this day, 534 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.800 you can name the song without me saying the title. You can name 535 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:15.480 the song? Does that not credit? How great that man was? You 536 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:21.000 got a point? There's got a point there was because if I gave you 537 00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.360 a big airline, you're gonna be like, who the fuck is that like? 538 00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.079 And Big Hill was cold. I really didn't listen to when you saying 539 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.760 like that. Actually, like I feel like people who grew up like me 540 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:37.840 are on the NAMA because I got to like. I grew up around my 541 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.159 uncle who was like, I told you, he's finishes. How you living? 542 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:49.039 Biggie Smalls got you. You won't be the only person that can't say 543 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.800 that, but you won't be the only person I say. But I feel 544 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:58.519 like because people like you and me, that's what we like. My little 545 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:05.880 brother probably knows that line because when I clean up the house. How great 546 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:13.320 this man? His fool albums, his longevity just now, it's concent is 547 00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:19.199 concentrated one. Okay, there's a particular artist that you hate to death because 548 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.599 everybody keeps throwing her on their list and she only has one album for her 549 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.719 man, we're not talking about her, but that album. Yes, but 550 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:34.920 that album is a masterpiece Lauren Hill. It's a masterpiece hip right. That's 551 00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.280 another thing. R and B neo so old kind of shit. Okay, 552 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:44.000 she came out, check out the fire wraps off, hold on, I 553 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.559 give you, I give you that. But this goes back to how we 554 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.440 start the whole thing. At that time, there was no category for that. 555 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.360 Because Drake is what Lauren Hill was. Now he can walk in any 556 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:59.559 lane and we cool with that because Lauren Hill was able to walk and create 557 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:02.639 that lad begetting how people keep Chris Brown in the R and B category When 558 00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:09.119 this nigga wraps, he got bars America, if you are listening, I 559 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:14.199 would like for y'all to just like go to fucking sleep or forgive Chris Brown 560 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.440 either or take a pick, like at some point y'all got to let what 561 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.239 he did the fuck out. I mean, especially if the motherfucker he did 562 00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.880 it too saying hey, you're good, We're cool. I'm sorry you got 563 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:32.920 a fam like, but you're talking about no. No. If he watched 564 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.000 Usher, I'm off he didn't, I should probably say some shit out of 565 00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:44.679 line. And probably first of all, he started with Chris unhinge. That's 566 00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:51.880 again, whether he's unhinged or us started, which I'm okay with watch Seals 567 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.480 not s destruct. The story that I heard was that Chris was on some 568 00:42:54.519 --> 00:43:00.199 shit and he he with Tianna Taylor while he was either drunk or on that 569 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.440 ship, could be both. Uh. Us, you didn't like the way 570 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.320 he was disrespecting Tianna Taylor or some of the other women in the place. 571 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.679 You know, here's the thing he got Chris, and Chris was like you 572 00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.679 know, fuck this shit, I'm going back to my truck. He said 573 00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.159 some things about Usher. Usher went to go have a conversation with him. 574 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:23.639 Chris Crew jumped up, so Chris really didn't touch him. What Usher think 575 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.840 was gonna happen, that's not That's not what I heard. I heard. 576 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.719 That's what I heard. I heard that they was trying Usually was trying to 577 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.760 break some shit up, and it looked like a scuffle. Look what he 578 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:37.480 got. He got muffed muff or something like that, trying to that same 579 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.320 thing. He was outside. Though the thought of it was nobody. Nobody 580 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:46.920 saw it. The thought of it was hilarious though somebody no no phone footage. 581 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:53.280 Ghet all the black Chris Brown and a bunch of bloods beating up Usher 582 00:43:53.400 --> 00:44:00.599 just sounds hilarious. But I've always said this these n that's but dog through 583 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.840 that's party. Then he throw the party for Chris. Yeah, now that's 584 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.400 that's what he was hosting it. That's the part that everybody that's even more 585 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.039 games like us are paid for the ship and all this, that he was 586 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.719 hosting the party. You can host stuff and not you know, have you 587 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:20.639 know, thrown it forth them to and you host tone birthday and then I 588 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.079 sneak you outside, like what does that look on? Yeah, it looks 589 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:27.840 looks crazy, it looks bad, But I say, man, don't fuck 590 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:29.960 with these R and B niggas. This ship been going on for years. 591 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.800 Chris du Cookers are way harder than all these motherfuckers they claim. They was 592 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:42.239 king that everybody that is a that is old dog just sound like one of 593 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:50.360 Tommy boys. AM just gonna nigga you running with. That's why you say 594 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.159 some squeaky clean and it makes me feel bad because I like them music. 595 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.639 But I'm like you was ready, Yeah, what happens when you found out 596 00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:01.280 the music was all real? I shot ten niggas last night, and the 597 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:07.320 nigga really did just just watching that little documentary and then like he would point 598 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.599 out like the bar and then he would have had a story when that niggas 599 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:14.119 said, yeah, we slid and shot up a funeral and then he was 600 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.679 like yeah so this this this, and they really like niggas was shut. 601 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.440 I was like, so I'm gonna shoot up your funeral outside resting you will 602 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:29.199 really why? That's crazy? Sorry? I hate to make music look bad, 603 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.519 but these niggas are stupid. They are no. Man, I understand 604 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.880 our imitates life, but my god, why would you repeat shit that you 605 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.679 could get you thrown? It said, why would you repeat s? Because 606 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:44.719 nigga niggas did not want to be accused of lying on the mic in front, 607 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.920 And so if you're gonna talk this street shit, you gotta be from 608 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.239 the streets. And they thought that what we're supposed to be. OK Jay 609 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.320 raps about selling drugs, there's no way you can go back. Improved in 610 00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:00.599 twenty years and improved that he sold us hype some drugs. Even if that 611 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.039 drug the hype come out, and like, yeah, he sold me drugs, 612 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:07.079 you were hype. We're not gonna believe it's word versus work, right, 613 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.840 when you got bodies that haven't been found, when you got bodies that 614 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.079 dropped and you don't have a killer for, when you got money that's on 615 00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.880 accounted for all that shit, paper trills back and you wrapping about it. 616 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:21.159 And the funny part is niggas used to do that back in the days, 617 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.079 but they wouldn't bring the rap lyrics in the court. But then when they 618 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.440 started bringing them in court, now all you niggas is really just give them, 619 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.000 hand them confessions like oh yeah, well all this because if you were 620 00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:34.639 still alive, he was definitely gonna go to jail because they got all the 621 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.480 niggas from the FBG Duck murder. Oh yeah, he was the last one 622 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.440 because he paid for And it was crazy just watching it was like, so 623 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:49.159 FBG Duck gets murdered, then they got dis nigga on camera and like three 624 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.159 days later the jury stars like, yeah, let me just seven old block 625 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:57.280 chaincel excuse me, So what are you to like, y'all just documenting crimes? 626 00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.239 Now? Hold on one second, hold on, I'm gonna do this. 627 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:07.119 Thank you guys for having me. I'm going to step out. You 628 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:08.599 got too real for you. No, I gotta do something real quick. 629 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:13.280 But uh, I got I got baited into talk about j D. And 630 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.599 but Jad's gonna gonna be very impressive that And I think I think it boiled 631 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:24.159 down to you because when you look at j D's just his writing credentials alone. 632 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.079 He got it easy. Oh his latest I sent you the latest, 633 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:34.119 uh release with currency He's he out here like hey, I still make Banging 634 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.880 Beach too, and he produced that whole ship. I like that, have 635 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:40.760 you heard it? He had some new new new project with currency. Welcome 636 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.880 to Atlanta. Needs to start crazy. It's crazy, but they're gonna be 637 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.000 in New York, so that that's why you gotta start the show. You 638 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.079 gotta come in like, you know, did he really fix this fight? 639 00:47:52.679 --> 00:48:02.039 Yeah? Cleveland was like Cleveland pretty should have just been in. Do it 640 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.920 in La Say, I don't know, d be safe over there,