All right, welcome to another episode of the Death Fresh Show. I am
y'all host Young Fresh. I'm in the building with a few of my nearest
and dires. You know, I got my knick can beats okay, Tommy
mister and Central and what's that? And you know my my alcoholic friend Toriano
Carson build up survived single. That's right, really, I mean ahead,
he was there at eleven. I I was. I was at work,
so I was out there and it was funny because I wrote in the group
chat. I was like, so we being racist tonight. Tory was like,
yo, I'm here already. I looked at my watching like I just
got to work. Like I was like, I just got to work.
I'm like, he's gonna be drunk and sleep by the time I get off.
Then when I got off, something still party. It was still party.
It never stopped. It's like, y'all get down, stop won't stop,
and people just kept coming, sitting in with us, eating tacos,
binding is necessary shots where ye shout out to Korean Now they slid through and
Kim. It was like a revolving door. Friend, where were you bo?
All right, Mexican? Yeah, that day Mexican. Is it on
the north side. Yeah, you came up there on my birthday. I
was just I was there for you. I didn't know where. You gotta
remember, you gotta remember. He don't drive us. I used to live
behind going out. Yeah, I don't beck it. It just that's the
that's the hood is Megazican spot on the north Man. It's actually the most
delicious. Yeah, when you get your food, you get your food is
actually really good and you will be Chicken is great. Try the mango wings.
I haven't had on a tour of the wings. And how many I
did not? He had a like fifty, No, I did not when
different flavors you had one flavor of fifty wings I had. I did not
have fifty wings. I had maybe eight ten because I come in sixes.
How many of the so you have multiple sexes? Yeah, you can just
you couldn't just get it twenty four piece. I didn't think about it like
that. I wasn't that hungry at first, Like I wasn't that hungry,
but but you knew you was going, which is okay. So that's why
I bought the first settle wings, because you know, hungry gets some food.
Grab some wings. Get the drinking realize that Kila hit me kind of
quick say, oh, the chicken is not gonna be enough. Let me
try these mangoes that look good and look fired. Twine had wings and they
were just sitting there, which was pissing me off because the wind was blowing
the hot sauce. It was mad, Just like, bro, you waste
some food here. So I ordered me some hot wings that I tried the
mango. The mango was fired. Hey, let me get another order of
the mangoes. Getting some tacicles while you at it. It was all kind
of cultural appropriation of the wind. Don't we culture appropriate? That was of
that? I mean, Antonio, And does it come because you're Toriana and
then I'm one? So like, yeah, I would have been good to
your Mark? Right, Why would you call me that? Because that's your
name name you Mark? That's so that's so white, right, Mark is
about this up there with Chad. But forget I forget my thought that I
was saying before air you cannot go back and judge things from today's eyes in
the past like you again my point just wonder before I forget my point,
My point was literally, you cannot go back and look at a hip hip
hippy to the hippy to the hip hip hop and it don't stop and then
say there was no essence or nothing to that fucking lyric, because hold on,
because to us that lived through that era, that ship was groundbreaking.
That ship moved crowds that just because nobody, nobody was doing anything before that.
That was that was the first that you heard of it. So if
somebody came out with the first that you heard of it, and then thirty
years later somebody comes out with something simple as something that came out thirty years
ago, is that a fair comparison? You actually thirty years late on some
ship that I already hadn't been said, right, So yeah, then it
was simple, but it was outstanding. So here's my beef with you old
niggas. I say, you old niggas very respectful, Yeah, because you're
going to be one. Yeah, bro, not going to be I'm already
there like the young niggas that I I ain't been here with old school yet,
but I know I'm getting them. Oh yeah, I ain't got hit
with those yet, but I know I'm getting though. But my my gripe
was like, so you old niggas respectfully, A look at the young niggas
of the generation of music that you know I listened to or that is coming
behind us, and we'll be like, oh, this shit is trash.
These niggas can't wrap. And I'm like, well, I don't think that's
fair. When we came from a hip hop a hippy to the hippy to
the hip hip hobby. It don't stop and niggas, boss, stay fucking
mind. I'm gonna stop you right there, because the fact that it came
from where it came from. The idea behind being an artist back then was
to top the person before you, so you improved on it every time you
ryan, you didn't copy, you came up with your own ship. That
like he said that, I'm gonna say my ship a little bit better.
That's not that. That's not what's going on right now. A universal rule
that nobody was allowed. I know everybody had to be original, okay,
but I'm not saying that anyone that's biting my My my point. It's like
you you saying that niggas can't rap, and it's simple. That's what a
lot of people it's mumble wrap. It's simplistic. There's no to it.
They're gonna ain't no OMP to it. And I'm like, but you can't
say that about these young niggas when we came from a time we're looking back
at it. It's just like it just it was hot. I'm not saying
it was trash. It wasn't no MP to it, but it was still
it was very simple. Okay. If my point to this is it was
still all simplistic. It's what I'm saying. That's not to say it's bad
or it's trash. It's just it's very Uh, it's very easy to get
it, catch us on. It's very easy. It's party, right,
Okay, look at uh uh comparison. Look at the first Nintendo that came
out eight big game, but a and B button and four direct directional pad
that went four different ways. A video game that you could only go forwards
to backwards, one dimensional. Now, somebody came out today and made a
game, not even the system, but just a game where you could only
go two different ways, like Mario my favorite game. Does that people would
look back and say there's nothing to this game, which is not true,
which would be true in today's era. There's nothing to the game. It
just goes backwards and forwards. But you cannot go back and then say it's
just like Mario and that ship was trashed too, because when Mario came out,
that ship had niggas who normally played outside in the house for eight nine
hours at a time. You don't. As a matter of fact, I
could do one. It's gonna sound like an insult, but it's not.
You're not qualified to talk about what happened back then because you didn't live in
that era. You didn't see the impact that had both personally and culturally.
Is I can't talk about what James Brown music was because I'm not from that
era. I can say if I like it or if I don't like it,
but I could never call a trash. I could never say it was
great because I didn't live in that era to see what it had personally as
far as effect goes to a community, to a people. Also, again
I want to state that I never said this ship was bad. No,
you said it was simplistic, and it's still simple. It wasn't simple,
but it was very complimenting. Else was doing. You take a fench to
it, because in my like love for it, that shit was difficult to
do then, like you just didn't do it, Like, how did you
come up with it? How did you come up with that? It's a
whole different thought process. She got thirty years, forty years of that thought
process evolving over time, and somebody chooses wait not to actually listen to it
and call it old and not not relevant and make us some simple shit like
it's the hot shit, It ain't. It ain't that hot, it's not
as creative as it could be. I looked at it like a retro though
it's not paying homage, though it's not paying who's they do. There's several
examples of them saying it ain't, But then there are several listen, but
there are examples of those who did who there are people who respect what came
before that I haven't. I haven't heard it, but if I heard it,
I would give them. I'm not a nigga that I look at it
like I'm not gonna disrespect some shit then, like I like, I enjoy
hip hop. I used to rap, and I under my favorite rapper is
probably a simplistic nigga. At times. There are times where he'll give you
some shit you be like, damn that made me think it ain't be some
ship where it's ABC one two three, but it's still called But if it's
still cold, I mean, it's not simplistic. As a rapper, I
would I would hope that I would have hoped that you would have given Cougie
rap way more props than that's simple, when he was probably the most complex
rapper in his time. But yeah, know like you was saying, that's
me listening to it now, yeah, versus me being fifteen sixteen with Cougi
rap drop and that's the dopest ship. There was nobody touching dude when he
came out. Literally in the conversation we had Tommy, would you refuse to
acknowledge that I never said he was like I never said Folks was trash.
I didn't say it was weak. I just said that ryme, scheme and
ryan pattern in which he was rapping. It was very simple now now and
now now it could be seen simple one because it's been repeated several times for
several artists. And that's all I said. It was the way he was
rapping on that song. No, I didn't say the bars was trash?
Was ABC on That whole statement is wrong because it wasn't simple back then.
Niggas wasn't sitting on corners doing Cypher's. Back then, rap was something that
was unheard of in that era, so to do it was very complicated.
As a matter of fact, to be signed as a rap artist was very
complicated back then in actuality. At the same time, that song that you
heard run DMC was that there there at their their peak and motherfuckers was swearing
my run DMC talk about a simple rhyme scheme, that's the most simplest rhyme
scheme in the world. But then cougie rapper is spitting like that, You're
like it's night and day that. As a matter of fact, this is
also the same error Kumo d too right, heard I go to work and
you heard how he went off that we're never gonna see out of hour.
But that's why I say, people aren't qualified to go back and talk about
things that they truly didn't spence. And you know what, when you say
that, you're absolutely right. I may not be qualified. I'm not qualified
to speak about a lot of shit I talk about. I say that.
I say this in multiple different spaces, just like the people that you get
a twenty three year old kid now and I asked him who's the greatest of
all time in basketball? And they say Jordan. I hate that. That's
like when people be like pocket Biggie. I hate it when you're not from
that era, don't say it. And that's okay. To My problem with
that whole statement is, I'm forty one years old and I barely remember Jordan's
first three rings. And I'm forty one. How are you at twenty three,
twenty five, thirty one, thirty three, thirty four, thirty five
going to tell me that Jordan is a go. You're going off something you
heard, not something you watch, you witnessed, or anything. Because as
many arguments that you can make as Jordan is to go, I can make
that he's not the go because I watched him play. I know what he
went through to get to the first fucking finals that you don't count that you
don't say as a matter of fact, I remember when he came back from
playing baseball. Mind you, nobody made him retire. He chose to retire.
He was trashing baseball. He came back and then they got put out
the fucking playoff. Jordan's career was only six years and then I wasn't speak
on the career of him just being trashed. I mean being on a trash
team scoring a whole bunch of points, like Doll was cold, like you
know, he was like whatever. It's almost like when, uh, well,
who's who's a hot player that was on a scrubby team, Like right
now, uh, you could do Damian Lillard Lillard for sure, like damn
dog cold will ever getting he helped, Well, he scored a lot of
points, dog or flashy of shit. But you know, want to play
in Portland. I'm just saying brains up there. But Chicago was the same
way. In Chicago it is I might. So that's why I tell people
sometimes you're not qualified to talk about things just because you weren't there to experience.
I feel like, so to make statements that this person was trash or
this person didn't have no Yeah, you could go back and talk about Bill
Russell. Let's say his style of play was simplistic. It got that man,
how many rains. I mean, his style of play might have been,
but for the time that that was basketball, that's what was So how
come you can't incorporate that to music. I didn't say that. I just
said it was simple. That's but it's not simple. It was complicated.
Then, okay for the time being of what hip hop was in the late
eighties, early eighties, then yeah, you might be right in late seventies,
early eight So when did that song come out that I was like,
unapologetically that was the Symphony eighty eight? Yeah, I know exactly. Yeah,
and in nineteen eighty eight. I have a whole entire show dedicated to
all the damn motherfucking songs that came out of nineteen eighty eight. That was
probably the heaviest year of hip hop history as far as leases and and like
strong hip hop content. And in the midst of that, that's that is
still revered as like a classic joint in eight from eighty eight, like all
the songs that I got it put up the damn playlist, like God,
damn that eighty eight is the wood Tang triumph of its terror. Yeah,
that's what you can describe. Yeah, because everybody had a favorite verse,
but everybody knew every and the debate on who should have gone last COUCHI Rapp
and big that it came was big that it came versus simple most just just
the simple. When you look back at it, wasn't you had your You
had your Every rap always changes or rap always evolves. I should say that
you had your rap of I mean your era of as you would call it,
simplistic rap, where niggas were basically making nursery rhymes. And you fast
forward, you can actually split it off between uh nursery rhyme yepp. So
wait, gangster rap and you gotta split it because because the East had theirs
with l L and all of them doing their things, and then you go
to the Way and then a gangster rap gets introduced. Then you you go
go and then you get the South going. So you got all the motherfucker's
coming out to South, the family and all of them they coming out to
South as you know, individual artists. Then you fast forward and now you
start getting your jay z No two box and biggies East Coast and West,
and really the beef is all I mean, not the beef, but the
real competition was always East Coast West. You know, thank God for Andre
three thousand and scar facing them down to the South that made it relevant.
Now you are not gonna sit there in disrespect Percy Miller, because if it
was not Percy, South would not have risen respectfully. That is the stupidest
statement. How long had the ghettle boys been ghetto boying and all of a
sudden, no letting, it hit the scene and everybody is listening. You're
giving all the credit in the South to the Master Peak. Master Pe put
out an album every week, scarface, wouldn't the fucking start before that,
or like outcasts didn't exist? That's simplistic hip. Got shit on that.
All I said was niggas Miller, Percy Miller. Okay, I'm not saying
that masterter P was the reason why the South. Just say, let me
that's why he did. Just say that. I said, you were not
I said, we're not gonna disrespectedly Percy Miller. I didn't. You never
let me get to that error just because you can say something. Okay,
I said, thank God for Andre three niggas. But I was there,
say sometime, and you were the gram. It was round about the same
time, No limit and cash money was really they were everywhere in the South.
I was never let me get to that point. I'm going through a
timeline and you jump in and say that Master P made the South. That's
completely false. I'm not gonna say completely. I won't say completely. He
wasn't completely, but he damned I would SiZ. He intensified the independent label
push and he made major record labels see that a way they're taking my money.
We need to do something about this ship. That is completely fine.
And I agree with that statement wholehearted. But he didn't. But I didn't
get to that point yet. I was still going a pocket biggie. And
then I said, thank God for Andre three thousand and outcasting the South to
make them, of course right. And as a matter of fact, it's
right after that. It was right in the same error. The same time
Frank master P and three got big cash. Money came about what two three
years later, Yeah, and everybody started rising. But I'm not giving master
p sole credit for everything that I'm not intricate part. Yes, but I'm
not giving them correct No, because you're the gay people like Uncle Luke that
had been around four years because they disrespected more than anybody coming out of hard
came out before j K. Speaking of speaking of Two Live Crew, a
lot of people tend to forget about them because they're the reason why explicitness is
such a big thing in hip hop. Uncle Luke is the reason why.
Explicitness. Yeah, Two Live Crew was a part of it, but it's
all because Uncle Luke. That's why you used to have on your tape,
you know, so we we didn't used to add that. I didn't actually
look at Uncle Luca as the South. It was Florida, and I think
that's what a lot of I think that's the problem the bottom. It's like
you hear when you hear South music, you think cup like U G K,
Kettle Boys, uh Kiki watchs all of them, and you technically don't
naturally group Two Live Crew man because he's the most disrespected hip hop artists ever.
People should thank god that Uncle Luke came through and did with it.
Uncle Luke took all the bullets so niggas could get through the door. Remember
the first to go through the doors, the one that always gets shot.
Uncle Luke was taken to the Supreme Court. Uncle Luke was threatened with jail
time all this shit that he beat so niggas could get up and rap freely.
So fucking Suk Suki hnnah can show her ass. None of that will
happen if it wasn't for Uncle Luke, and there just made a Sukia reference,
like you gotta give credit. If there was no Uncle Luke, there
would be no pussy rap. But if there's no pussy rap, there's a
lot of women rapper. I wouldn't have Agan, no Stallions, all of
them. And I have to say this because I was a witness to when
Luke Luke, When Luke was, when Luke was performing, no matter where
it was, and I happened to be in South Beach when there was a
music commence How can I be down which was a huge music conference in like
ninety five, I can't remember. It was when Luke performed. Every fucking
artist that was down there, like we're going to Luke show, they went,
they went, They gave Doug all props, documentary, he'd been scared.
But the long when it comes to lifetime achieving awards, Luke should have
every woman. No, And that's why I said he's the most disrespected artist
ever. Give him more. You make a movie about n WA and their
their impact to music while it was big and was great, and I do
agree with it, and a lot of big names came out at the NWA.
Nobody looks that Luke Skywalker, it started with him, did all this
shit, so they this nigga got beat down and drugs so these motherfuckers could
fly. Remember, they weren't threatened the NWA with jail time. They were
just the Supreme Court was writing cease and the sis letters and stuff to them.
They were threatening to lock up Luke for his music. Technically, the
only reason why NWA ever got on anybody radar was the fuck the police saw
if they never released that song NA just mind and mind you Hey, we
want some Pussy was out before that, so they didn't get funck about it
we want some pussy. But the police when Uncle Luke said it years before
that, well along the lines of that, with the Hay Lizard Lizard all
this shit and the girls dancing and stuff, they wanted Luke and jail.
He was pointing their minds. He was never called Uncle Luke trash. No.
I'm not saying no, no me personally. I'm saying for the people
out there. I never called you can't go back and look at you know
all Luke and two Live Crew and what was the other group he had it
was two Yeah used them for dissing people though you can't go I can look
at them groups and then say it's okay when ship to Birthday song is still
one of the biggest songs you play with somebody's birthday. You got in there,
in there thirty five years later, still singing it. What's that number
one zodiac sign? The chicks sweating and bending over and shaking the ass and
all that stuff to this song. But now that you say that, like
I saw a TikTok about I think it was mister you know, mister Fabers.
He was talking about too short and when he was running down like the
ship too short dead for hip hop? I was like, damn, do
we not like, do we not give too short enough love? No?
No for what he did as I didn't even know too short sign a little
John and didn't let him out of his contract, and then a little John
like blew a business, mega producer, and shit, I was like,
that's that's hip hop. Fact. I didn't know nine times teen you get
your your flowers when you die. I remember going, yeah, that was
fucked up. I remember going down the family and in Mississippi and my cousin's
head came. I don't know where that came. From and it was playing
Born to Mac. I never heard no ship like that in my life,
like two shars. But the song was long as hell, was just a
drum track and he was just talked about simple rhymes. I don't know for
sure. It was simple as Fucken Hayden's was so slow and simple, long
because he ended it with bitch was cool, freaky tail, That's what song.
I was like, this is a song, this as long as fun
all time. I don't know, because it changes always, it's always changed
because like mine has never changed, but that mine has never changed. But
like there are people that I frequent I like because like right now, like
right now, at the stage of my life I'm in. Is Benny the
Butcher. You've been on Benny for a minute, Doug, he can't miss.
I've never heard a song where he missed, never heard a song where
he missed. You know, he even when Conway came bad, him as
hard as he could. And you know Conway might have had the better verse.
I've never heard Benny missing. You've been on I want a lot like
before, like we was having. I don't know, but my personal favorite
will always be m I don't know. Woman was talking about and the Wrestler
still think that first album was trash No that was titled after Wrestler. That
was how I started listening to the niggas. I was like, man,
let me click. And I don't know how I started. They were on
Jimmy Fallon one night. I was watching Jimmy Fallon and I was like,
these niggas sound so much to me like wou Tang Clan. And I went
back and listened to the album and I'm like dog. After that, I
was addicted. I'm the biggest grizzl. The fan out said. When Conway
left the group, I'm like that, what's the name of that group right
now? Because I always wanted it to be west Side if What'side had left
out of been fine because I hate what's that first? Like what's like this
whole? But we turned the corner. We turned the corner, Like what
the fuck is this thinking talking about? I don't know I like it speaking
of Coogie Rap because when Coogie Rap had come back at one point, um
somehow you looked up with thirty eight Spech And when I first heard thirty eighth
Spech, I was like, I'm not really liking thirty eight Spech, like
when I heard him with Coogie Rap, but then I heard him with Griselda
and the Nigga I like, I like thirty. It's like Lan always says,
it depends on who you put people with. Because one hated Nas until
his recent run, because now his beats match his flow. I've always hated
Nas beat selection. Listen to a lot of I mean, have you listened
you know Griselda, like a lot of albums and stuff. Okay, so
previous to this, Griselda always had to what I considered like the most simplicity,
and they wouldn't have a drunk, they wouldn't have drums. Until the
uh, Bennie the Butcher got hit Boy to do yes yeah, And I
was like, oh my god, Bennie the Butcher with real beats, everybody
is hit man, saving everybody's career right now. Like how you had that
epiphany when you heard that is how I felt with like Nah, And when
it was like Nah's a hit boy, I was like, well, I
like hitboy, hit boyd Drake shit Drake be bumping. Even I don't drunk
like that, some of the songs be bumping. I listen to that.
I was like, you ain't gotta like him that at this point if you
hate Drake. Drake also at times Drake used to be a happy spider,
but now his bar are getting very simplestic. Because I was listening to NonStop
that beat hits hard, but Drake don't talk about shit on this whole damn
song. I just hit the switch. Flip flip, got so many memorable
him, even the song he got eight up on by fucking uh uh was
a little baby? Oh uh, I know, I can't think of it.
A little baby is what's the name of that fucking song? What's a
little baby? Yeah? It was a little baby not familiar. I feel
like at this point Drake is so far ahead as I could be wrong,
but I feel like Drake is so far ahead of niggas. We're here,
it's just twenty twenty three, and he's been rolling since two thousand and nine.
Ye like being out since two thousand and nine. But then really like
putting your like yeah, but I'm saying like when he came out in two
thousand and nine, people he was all the buzzs, like niggas like,
have you heard this nigga before him? And Drake and Cole, Yeah,
and dog ain't let go. He has not let go a radio y'all has
a radio on a choked Drake is the Drake is the male version of the
answer, um might be a little bit better, Bro, do you think
Drake better than might be a little bit better? In regards to influence Dog
Company on everybody ship, He's at everybody on this ship. I was just
like a musical, like where are you at? Like to me that I'm
just like music, like when I when I computed, Oh yeah, I
know that song dog Little Baby a nigga live on this song and it still
was a good song by Drake. Baby has Little Baby has his moments where
he goes crazy. Speaking of eating up on the track, I know you
like Benny the Butcher, but why do I'll let Jay cole on that track?
What is it? The Cadillac dog Jay cole Man when he when he
when he gets a feature, which he don't do often, he annihilates you.
He just did Dirk song and he kept like that. He killed that
ship. Stirk was like, no, I'm not rapping after you rap.
I'm just gonna say no. But Benny rapping at the un arrogantly he came
back like he had some ship and he was nice. I was like,
he could he could have kept his first off that They made so many skits
about that damn song I just played. That's ridiculous because everybody who has ears
nose that little baby just body Drake and wasn't a dis or anything. He
just out wrapped him on his own song. So there's one where they showed
like little Baby going to the Bootfall casual and get to wrapping, and then
out of nowhere, this nigga starts turning into a super saying he Rake was
like, how much more powerful can he get? That? The animated one?
Ye? Yeah, the animated ones. Funny. I saw the one
they did when it was it was him and Dirt. They did a song
for the DJ Kelli. Shit, yeah, that little baby wrapping and then
like Dirt was from the Walk in the Booth and hold on keep going all
right, and all of a sudden and he just go crazy. I can't
win the feature actually bodies. You know, I don't think Drake cared though
I know I don't think I don't care, but he knows what the end
result is. The spectators we like, Yeah, but that's what makes us
start listening to whoever the feature artists is. Because I'm not saying that Eminem
wasn't big on Renegade, but a lot more niggas paid attention to him after
Renegade. You know who did that for me? Beanie Siegel on which song?
First time? The first time I had shute song? Can never never?
What the route song? Really never had? I think men skills argue
about that because he was like, you know, the best person on Rockefeller
was Beans. To me, it was being, it was being I was
like, as far as just rapping, as far as just rapping, it
was Jay wanted to give believe you should gave the banks he should No,
no, no, But Jans couldn't sound yeah, so I get it.
We tried two beings wouldn't leave the streets being said, I don't know was
that the which Calar podcast? Nega podcast? He was like, he just
wasn't ready and he didn't understand why Jay left him in court because the judge
asked him, would you be responsible not would you, you know, keep
him out of trouble and then would you be responsible you know for beings?
Jay told him on lest no, and he cried about that because he felt
like Dray betrayer, I mean Jay betray No. But he looks back at
that now he's like, dude, I was wild. Jay had stuff he
was trying to do in place. He was trying to come down, and
I like, nigga, I've been trying this entire time, like I'm trying,
let's do this, let's do this, let me get you right to
here, and then you keep sucking up mind you want to watch this nigga.
Beans was like, Jay could have asked me to go off. Somebody
not have did it with no question. He's like, the judge didn't even
ask this nigga, you know, to be responsible. He just asked,
what you know you see after him? Would you do this? So he
just wanted he want to hold a lot. Hope was like, no,
he want to Hope to really tell that he was What he wanted, in
my opinion, was for Hope to say, yes, I'll look after him,
Yes, I'll make sure he stay out of trouble. Hold like he
didn't get to be a billionaire by being stupid. He's like, dog,
this nigga's lost cause he needs to go to jail. I don't care how
much money he made me, how cool he is, how good of friends
we is? This nigga need to be locked up. That's a harsh reality
that some of your friends don't be ready for. Like, Bro, you
probably need to go sit down, dude, do a year or two and
come back with time. Timmy was looking after me, and Timmy was like,
you know, because I'm sure Jay would have seen the potential in Beings.
He put him on the damn ninety sevens like any feature. That was
any feature like his album. He didn't really get the just dude, he
did until he got to the be Coming because when the b Comeing came out,
that album was a complete album from track one the track twelve. That
ship was good. Now his first his first two albums, and they were
okay, they had some hits on them, but a complete album the Becoming
Listen to that ship. Yeah, I'll go back to As a matter of
fact, what do we use real bar talk. We use one of the
tracks off to Becoming, the Him and the Red Man Dune it's on it.
But other hip hop news, I can't go on this ways on that
one. You're right, that's my favorite being Jermaine dupri And so is this
official now they're really going to do this battle. Yeah, because I keep
saying podcast niggas speculating versus announced it. Now, I feel like it should
be a two part versus because these niggas got hits every word, they could
do rap, they could do R and Bay could do it. I feel
like it should be a two part versus. What you think? Why pick
your best twenty? Yeah? This is this is This is the deepest on
the versus ever, you know. And I'm glad they're doing this because like
your homie, he'd be disrespecting the shit out of j D. And I
didn't. I never appreciate it. Who scales? Oh and I get it?
Did he is? Did he? But niggas be acting like Jermaine Dre
down here and had a conversation with him out I had him many times and
and you know what, it's not that skills really he take pictures from the
parking lot, tell me here here, don't be here, so he like
like skills don't because he did that, skills don't necessarily like not give the
credit. No Jermaine several stats, no, no, no, no,
he said, he said Jermaine Dre, but he doesn't think that you know
his Basically he thinks his arms is too short to box with got and you
think who actually make but what skills? Don't understand? I told him any
times be the kid depends on what you picked. See if you if that's
the strategy, If I am Puffy and I sit up and picked the twenty
songs I like the most, or I think we're the best and they're not
really those twenty songs. Jad can't eat you a live because j d has
hits. If did you know it's like a one second It's just like when
niggas when Jada kiss went against uh Fabricus and everybody, including myself, like
everybody was down fabulous, it's fabulous a fabulous and then Jada kiss ate him
a lot same way, like I just made a stat. Then Nelly shit
didn't age well because everybody was like, oh Nelly gonna wash Luda. But
never never, I've never even said that, And I think Diddy would do
the same thing. He I think Diddy will pick the right songs, not
necessarily because he's the better of the two, right, I think because Diddy
is not a hands on nigga to me, like did he get to credit
because he he he he's a scientist. Yeah, so he's probably gonna know
how to curate his twenty songs, probably a little bit better than j D.
But that's because that's what the fuck you do. He said, that's
what that's all he does. I mean, but from my standpoint, like
j D came might make a bed, also writes the fucking song, like
he might have his head, he might have his hands in too many things.
I think, mean, he not great. I think it's gonna be
interesting. I think the fact this nigga had big, this nigga Okay,
yeah he did have big, but how many big songs can he played before
everybody starts saying, okay, you just want to be versus I just I
just I just did. We just did a peyton ship at Vibes where it
was tupop versus Biggy and I made the playlist, and uh, Chrishella came
even she was like, there's a lot of tuopoc plan. I'm like,
he got, he got, He got way more songs than Big Biggie.
The shuffle did wasn't shuffling, And that's no disrespect the biggest, biggest one,
my bigger. We got two albums and some scattered features, Yeah,
yeah, and some and some remakes. Remember Pop got more albums when he
did in some nigga's whole career. Yeah, Biggie is the Penny Hardaway of
hip hop. Oh but I think I think, I think that, I
think that I think that j D will hop in more time. Just what
had been the biggest de Penny Hardaway of hip hop? Which is the most
ludicrous statement I've ever heard. Did you watch you? You come from that
nineties era, but did you watch Penny Hardaway's Penny hard Away not called yes?
What's Biggie called yes? Your Penny Hardaway's career get cut short of the
knee injury. Yeah, Biggie died. But here here, here's the thing,
if you wanna look at it in that aspect, Biggie was a champion,
multiple time champion. How do you only have two whole albums to your
name and you're considered one of the greatest of all time? That that that's
who is considering this nigga to be the greatest of all time the world?
Will you ask anybody they talk you literally just said you hate when young niggas
put pocketing Biggie on their list and they do that because the niggas who were
there really do put Big in Poc on their list because they really are that
good. You gotta gotta give credit where you do you thirty four? Thirty
four? Okay, I'm forty one. So when Life After Death came out,
who you would have been? How old? Because that was ninety ninety
six, nine seven, Because I hold you've been nice seven one years,
Mamie would have been thirteen or four years younger than nine, So you're nineteen.
You did not but sperience notorious sugs. But if I say armed in
Dangerous, ain't too many can bang with us? Straight up? We know
angel does? What's okay? So keep that in mind. You're nine.
You were nine years old when this album came up. But to this day,
you can name the song without me saying the title. You can name
the song? Does that not credit? How great that man was? You
got a point? There's got a point there was because if I gave you
a big airline, you're gonna be like, who the fuck is that like?
And Big Hill was cold. I really didn't listen to when you saying
like that. Actually, like I feel like people who grew up like me
are on the NAMA because I got to like. I grew up around my
uncle who was like, I told you, he's finishes. How you living?
Biggie Smalls got you. You won't be the only person that can't say
that, but you won't be the only person I say. But I feel
like because people like you and me, that's what we like. My little
brother probably knows that line because when I clean up the house. How great
this man? His fool albums, his longevity just now, it's concent is
concentrated one. Okay, there's a particular artist that you hate to death because
everybody keeps throwing her on their list and she only has one album for her
man, we're not talking about her, but that album. Yes, but
that album is a masterpiece Lauren Hill. It's a masterpiece hip right. That's
another thing. R and B neo so old kind of shit. Okay,
she came out, check out the fire wraps off, hold on, I
give you, I give you that. But this goes back to how we
start the whole thing. At that time, there was no category for that.
Because Drake is what Lauren Hill was. Now he can walk in any
lane and we cool with that because Lauren Hill was able to walk and create
that lad begetting how people keep Chris Brown in the R and B category When
this nigga wraps, he got bars America, if you are listening, I
would like for y'all to just like go to fucking sleep or forgive Chris Brown
either or take a pick, like at some point y'all got to let what
he did the fuck out. I mean, especially if the motherfucker he did
it too saying hey, you're good, We're cool. I'm sorry you got
a fam like, but you're talking about no. No. If he watched
Usher, I'm off he didn't, I should probably say some shit out of
line. And probably first of all, he started with Chris unhinge. That's
again, whether he's unhinged or us started, which I'm okay with watch Seals
not s destruct. The story that I heard was that Chris was on some
shit and he he with Tianna Taylor while he was either drunk or on that
ship, could be both. Uh. Us, you didn't like the way
he was disrespecting Tianna Taylor or some of the other women in the place.
You know, here's the thing he got Chris, and Chris was like you
know, fuck this shit, I'm going back to my truck. He said
some things about Usher. Usher went to go have a conversation with him.
Chris Crew jumped up, so Chris really didn't touch him. What Usher think
was gonna happen, that's not That's not what I heard. I heard.
That's what I heard. I heard that they was trying Usually was trying to
break some shit up, and it looked like a scuffle. Look what he
got. He got muffed muff or something like that, trying to that same
thing. He was outside. Though the thought of it was nobody. Nobody
saw it. The thought of it was hilarious though somebody no no phone footage.
Ghet all the black Chris Brown and a bunch of bloods beating up Usher
just sounds hilarious. But I've always said this these n that's but dog through
that's party. Then he throw the party for Chris. Yeah, now that's
that's what he was hosting it. That's the part that everybody that's even more
games like us are paid for the ship and all this, that he was
hosting the party. You can host stuff and not you know, have you
know, thrown it forth them to and you host tone birthday and then I
sneak you outside, like what does that look on? Yeah, it looks
looks crazy, it looks bad, But I say, man, don't fuck
with these R and B niggas. This ship been going on for years.
Chris du Cookers are way harder than all these motherfuckers they claim. They was
king that everybody that is a that is old dog just sound like one of
Tommy boys. AM just gonna nigga you running with. That's why you say
some squeaky clean and it makes me feel bad because I like them music.
But I'm like you was ready, Yeah, what happens when you found out
the music was all real? I shot ten niggas last night, and the
nigga really did just just watching that little documentary and then like he would point
out like the bar and then he would have had a story when that niggas
said, yeah, we slid and shot up a funeral and then he was
like yeah so this this this, and they really like niggas was shut.
I was like, so I'm gonna shoot up your funeral outside resting you will
really why? That's crazy? Sorry? I hate to make music look bad,
but these niggas are stupid. They are no. Man, I understand
our imitates life, but my god, why would you repeat shit that you
could get you thrown? It said, why would you repeat s? Because
nigga niggas did not want to be accused of lying on the mic in front,
And so if you're gonna talk this street shit, you gotta be from
the streets. And they thought that what we're supposed to be. OK Jay
raps about selling drugs, there's no way you can go back. Improved in
twenty years and improved that he sold us hype some drugs. Even if that
drug the hype come out, and like, yeah, he sold me drugs,
you were hype. We're not gonna believe it's word versus work, right,
when you got bodies that haven't been found, when you got bodies that
dropped and you don't have a killer for, when you got money that's on
accounted for all that shit, paper trills back and you wrapping about it.
And the funny part is niggas used to do that back in the days,
but they wouldn't bring the rap lyrics in the court. But then when they
started bringing them in court, now all you niggas is really just give them,
hand them confessions like oh yeah, well all this because if you were
still alive, he was definitely gonna go to jail because they got all the
niggas from the FBG Duck murder. Oh yeah, he was the last one
because he paid for And it was crazy just watching it was like, so
FBG Duck gets murdered, then they got dis nigga on camera and like three
days later the jury stars like, yeah, let me just seven old block
chaincel excuse me, So what are you to like, y'all just documenting crimes?
Now? Hold on one second, hold on, I'm gonna do this.
Thank you guys for having me. I'm going to step out. You
got too real for you. No, I gotta do something real quick.
But uh, I got I got baited into talk about j D. And
but Jad's gonna gonna be very impressive that And I think I think it boiled
down to you because when you look at j D's just his writing credentials alone.
He got it easy. Oh his latest I sent you the latest,
uh release with currency He's he out here like hey, I still make Banging
Beach too, and he produced that whole ship. I like that, have
you heard it? He had some new new new project with currency. Welcome
to Atlanta. Needs to start crazy. It's crazy, but they're gonna be
in New York, so that that's why you gotta start the show. You
gotta come in like, you know, did he really fix this fight?
Yeah? Cleveland was like Cleveland pretty should have just been in. Do it
in La Say, I don't know, d be safe over there,