WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:27.039 M oh god. It is Tuesday, June the seventh, twenty sixteen. 2 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.600 We got one week here in the Giant Bomb Cast. That can't be right. 3 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:32.960 We're going to you three, Dan, You're going to E three. 4 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:34.880 That's what a month and a half away? Yeah, something like that. 5 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.119 We got a few weeks. Okay, cool, it's just one week till 6 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.280 E three. Go ahead, go on continue. No, I'm done, 7 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.079 No, you're not. No, I'm definitely done. Hello, Alex Navarro, 8 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:49.039 I think I'm on the wrong show, are you? This is pre 9 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.359 Money in the Bank Power Bomb Cast. Yeah, that's gonna watch this this 10 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:54.320 this room looks weird, and Jeff Backlar is not here. I don't know 11 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.960 what's happening anymore. We could have flown the baccalar out. We need a 12 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.119 rotating fifth chair, that's what we need. I guess it's very red in 13 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.439 here, though. It is so hopefully it'll get you in the mood. 14 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.799 It could be. Yeah, I mean, we can get me the overhead. 15 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:08.159 We could go full summer, Dan, you want to turn off the 16 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:11.959 Okay, now it is all the way red in here, and now I 17 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.280 am all the way horny. It's like a dark room. Yep, it's 18 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.879 fall up make out room, and I am turgid. We're gonna make photos. 19 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.599 I know what I mean. Yes, I do. Time for some 20 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.840 sexy video game talk. My whole life is one big dark room. Jeff 21 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.799 Gersman sitting in my chair. Hello, how's it going. It's going okay? 22 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:29.599 At the head of the table. Yeah, it's all right down here, 23 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.560 I can I can really kind of get my hands on either side of 24 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:34.159 this, Yeah, and really kind of hold court. I think I'm gonna 25 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.000 I'm gonna learn from your example. God damn it. It kind of got 26 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.599 to slam the table expand down there in the future. I'm sitting behind the 27 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.640 desk today because Drew and Jason are packing our stuff. They're doing the hard 28 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.159 work for E three. Yeah, they're breaking down most of a studio operation 29 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:55.319 and loading it onto a truck for tomorrow to go to La truck comes tomorrow. 30 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:57.120 Do you have to press the magic music buttons? No, that's not 31 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:01.120 happening. I okay, okay, Yeah, doing it the old school together, 32 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.200 like like they did back in the nineteenth century. Oh wow, when 33 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.439 they edited podcasts by hand. Yeah. But Henry podcast the Fourth was the 34 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:14.520 inventor, obviously of the format. I will done my monocle and top hat 35 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:20.000 the model P. Yes was Alex. How's it going? Oh it's going 36 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.319 all right. Flew out yesterday I did. I'm just in town. So 37 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:28.960 airplanes yeah, my rights, Yeah they're I don't know. Airplanes are fine. 38 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.680 I'm here mostly just to see family and to road trip down to E 39 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:38.039 three with Jeff gers Man. Hello, Hi, I'm here. It's the 40 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.159 annual podcast. Yeah. No, yeah, we're gonna drive down. We 41 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:44.319 didn't do it last year. No, wow, I did. I did 42 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.719 not participate go to the Del Taco. Oh we're gonna yeah yeah, yeah, 43 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.680 we don't even want to anymore, but we're going to because it's tradition. 44 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.199 You can't not know exactly. Yeah, you can't resist the magnetic pool. 45 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.280 As you passed Santaella, your car just drifts onto the on ramp. 46 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.800 Yeah yeah, because otherwise you end up eating that pea soup and you don't 47 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:01.199 want that. Oh you know. I went to the Peace Soup Place finally, 48 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:05.759 after years of driving past it and wondering what it was like. I 49 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:07.800 went there last year of course. Yeah, yeah, I definitely. I 50 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.000 wasn't. It was grilled, really good. Wait, what is the Peace 51 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:15.199 Anderson Split Pea is kind of a bit of a landmark. They're also same 52 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:20.800 the same exit as the Dell Tacoh wow. And yeah, I stopped there 53 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.800 on my way up on a separate trip, and yeah, it was. 54 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.199 It was. It's a weird restaurant. They have a big gift shop. 55 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.439 And it was like one hundred and ten degrees outside when I went there, 56 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:34.000 as it tends to be. I got some nice steam and hot split piece 57 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.759 soup. Yeah, that's the right temperature for peace soup. Is that served 58 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:40.479 hot? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, it's a hearty it's a hearty winter 59 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.680 gruel. So I got it when it was one hundred and ten degrees outside 60 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.840 and then immediately got back in my car and kept driving. But you know, 61 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.400 it's air conditioning can make it winter anytime. That's true if you're doing 62 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.199 it at least a nice brisk fauld up. Is it near the cow poop 63 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:54.680 part of the drive, you know, I mean, relatively speaking, it 64 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:59.240 all sort of is. But no, it's your connected by cow ship if 65 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:00.240 you're driving, if you're out of north I guess you're coming out of the 66 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.000 cow poop at that point, right, Yeah, and you're ready for COOLINGA 67 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:09.960 is south of that. I stayed in COOLINGA once. That might have been. 68 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:12.599 There was a couple of years. I was gonna ask, what wasn't 69 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.360 last year that it took you like two days to back? That was? 70 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.399 Yes, that was not last year? Was no? Last year was me 71 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:21.560 and one Adam boys who slept most of the way on account of it. 72 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:26.879 Wait after e three last year, perhaps they some of those folks went and 73 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.439 stayed out a little late. Okay, they might have been hung over the 74 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.480 next day. Yeah, that's still a buzz man. I didn't take him 75 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:33.959 as a guy who would pass out on you. Uh no, No, 76 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.800 And and and he was super apolst a guy feel bad even bringing it up. 77 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:43.360 But he it's only fresh in my I would not have even remembered except 78 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.560 that he is going to make the drive with me again this week and said 79 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:48.920 like, and this time I'll try to be like less hung over in a 80 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:50.759 sleep. And I was like, dude, whatever, I'm just listening to 81 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:56.319 music. It's fine, it's not that not that big a deal. Yeah, 82 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.439 it's a fun drive. It's silly because it would at this point it 83 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:02.519 would be faster to fly. Oh absolutely, yeah, But it all stems 84 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.519 out of the one E three that uh they shut down the runway at lax 85 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:11.160 on the day after E three and no one got out and I had to 86 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:15.240 rent a car. Me and Ben Stall Oh yeah, went and rented a 87 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.519 Cadillac and drove up in a Cadillac and it was like we drove a couch 88 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.360 to San Francisco, and I was like, this is okay. And for 89 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:26.600 me it was very much about the touring days from way back in the day. 90 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:30.240 Just doing that I five drive over and over and over often band Yeah. 91 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:31.519 You would be yeah, because you would be driving the drum kit and 92 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.439 there'd be room for like maybe one other person, but usually you wouldn't even 93 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:38.000 and usually they were passed out like they were they were very boys, you 94 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:42.439 know, not drunk, just tired. So I got sometimes drunk. Yeah, 95 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.079 But yeah, for me, like I need that at least once a 96 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.360 year in my life, Like that drive just is ingrained in my DNA in 97 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:53.519 a way that if I don't have it for a while, I get weirdly 98 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:59.720 anti. Even though it's not a good drive, a boring dry it is 99 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:01.959 the open road. It's it's dry, boring, hot, and it smells 100 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.399 like cowshit. I don't think you guys know boring drives that until you've gone 101 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:09.720 through Iowa. Oh, I've done. I've I've gone through Iowa. I've 102 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:13.319 gone through Kansas from Nebraska, driven across the country and back. So you 103 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.560 would like have hills though in this, in this California drive, there are 104 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.800 hills, there are there's water occasionally, yes, yeah, there's del Tacos, 105 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:23.000 all these things. More this whole middle stretch that is just like you 106 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:27.920 know, Trucker City. Yeah, everything between Santa Nella and like the grape 107 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:31.839 Vine right about the grape Vine is just one shitty brown streak through California. 108 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:39.639 Yeah. Yes, it is the skid mark of California. Central South says, 109 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:44.480 central California to the northern tip of south southern California. That's a vivid 110 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.319 image. Uh, there's a whole lot of nothing there and then like just 111 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.000 these big like all of a sudden, like oh, here's there's a ton 112 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:54.759 of outlets right here. Yeah, like why who's coming here? Go go 113 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.439 get trucks, get yourself a blazer or two. Yeah at the outlet. 114 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.639 Yeah, maybe we'll stop at the out us this time. Okay, we've 115 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.920 got time. I'm down who's uh, who's your third chair? Is it 116 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:08.439 Danny? Yes, Danny. He'll be in solving fans at the Del Taco. 117 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.720 Yeah, exactly, he'll be. We'll be He'll be talking shit to 118 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:15.600 people at Del Taco. Hopefully. I hope, I hope that that gentleman 119 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:20.879 comes out and sees us again this year, so that day apologize. I 120 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.600 feel like what happened. Yeah, I'm just waiting for the story. We 121 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:28.560 So we went to Del Taco. You know, we were live broadcasting, 122 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.560 which, well, I'll post a story on the site about what we're doing 123 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.040 at D three and how you can how you can listen to this drive down 124 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:42.279 on mixler dot com or Jeff dot Zone actually has the mixler player embedded on 125 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.160 it. You can hit up the Zone, the only website that matters over 126 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:49.800 the Jeff dot Zone for all that. So, someone who had been listening 127 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.519 lived in the area and he came out to the Dell Taco while we were 128 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.519 there. Oh wait, this person did not work at Dell Toco. No, 129 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.279 no, no, no, heca they were listening to the mixer. 130 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:03.040 He just triangulated based on your life broadcast going there. Yeah, we were 131 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:09.000 not shy, well known. It was kind of an implicit invitation. Then 132 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.680 yeah, pretty mush. So so he came out and we said low and 133 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.959 then what was it like on the way out? Danny turns it was, 134 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.839 hey, go get a sun tan, and the guy just kind of turned 135 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.639 for secon kept that and just kept going, which obviously sounded like, hey, 136 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.199 your pale, weird skin to get yourself, which, you know, 137 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.679 the Irish boy saying that could not be a more bitter irony, but still 138 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.200 also, why would you yell that at? What he was trying to say, 139 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.759 though, was that it was dy. He was trying Danny's not a 140 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.799 hey, let me randomly insult this person that I just met. Guys, 141 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.600 so, it was very hot outside. The sun was beating down and he 142 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.440 was saying, Hey, have fun out there. It's gonna be high beef 143 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:56.879 O'Brady persona the right thing. And OK, so what you're implying is that 144 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.840 the sun had damaged Danny's brain, and so he did not think that what 145 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.039 he was saying might have been offensive. He was implying that it was hot 146 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.879 outside and you should and the guy should go out there and get a tan 147 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.399 in the heat. Sometimes it's hard to tell where Danny ends and beef begins. 148 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.200 You know it's true. Yeah, that's a fine. Some might say 149 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:20.559 they are inextricably linked. H we'll have fun driving to Los Angeles. I 150 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:22.639 will beat you there half the time. Yeah. And what are you gonna 151 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:24.720 do? You go to the hotel and you're just gonna lay there until we 152 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:31.399 show up? Not that hotel, which which actually one that we stay at. 153 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.639 Can you make it really cold in the room? Uh? Not cold 154 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.799 enough? Never cold enver enough. I want seven to sixty laying there and 155 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:45.039 steal the laying there and steal the USC wireless right yeah by the front desk. 156 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:48.200 Yeah, they just tell you to use the USC wireless when you check 157 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:54.039 in. Its close enough, I guess, amazing and it And we're an 158 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.679 internet company. You think that there may be some priority placed on staying somewhere 159 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.200 that might have internet in case people had to do real work from their hotel 160 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.399 room during something like a three. But as it turns out, I think, 161 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:05.759 hey, we got a work room for that. Yeah, well yes, 162 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.519 yeah, I mean there are a million other places in LA to get 163 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.200 internet, but that hotel is not one of them. But there is a 164 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.639 Chick fil A within walking distance. Great, I tried to what was it? 165 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:18.759 I think I tried to download a Vita game over that Wi Fi last 166 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:24.879 year I tried to not happen. I tried to upload podcasts from that Wi 167 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:33.480 Fi from the parking garage behind the hotel after I checked out. Yes, 168 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.840 Like, the best way I can describe it is that is some go go 169 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:41.080 in flight as Internet. Yep, yeah, pretty much functionless unless you are 170 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:48.440 just reading email and the occasional website. I remember last year as like GameSpot, 171 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.679 people were down in the hot tub yelling lyrics to fucking bear naked ladies 172 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:56.120 songs or whatever the fuck was going on down there, like trying to access 173 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.600 trying to stay on the internet to get some work done, and then having 174 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.080 that just emanating from down below and just going, what the fuck? Who 175 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.559 is who the do you? Broak is down in this hot tub singing this 176 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.000 bull No, they're singing fucking tenacious deal. I remember that, and it 177 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:15.279 was like what you and I were on Twitter bitching about it within like fucking 178 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:16.879 seconds of each other. She was just like, don't you people have some 179 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.919 rite ups to do? Yeah, do your fucking ride ups. Andrew park 180 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:26.200 is rolling over in his grave and he's not even dead yet. There's no 181 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:33.039 excuse there was. There was at least a moment. It passed, and 182 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.159 I obviously did not make good on this, but there was a moment where 183 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:39.960 I sin seriously, seriously considered just grabbing a chair from my room, running 184 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:46.039 down there and just like screaming what I thought about throwing things down, But 185 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.559 there was a screen in the window, so I would have to pop that 186 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:50.720 out first. And I thought, well, what if I filled up my 187 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.519 ice bucket with water and then splashed that through. Maybe it would land near 188 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.360 them and they would maybe, It just depends on how thin about. And 189 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.960 then I realized, oh, that's probable league game spot people. Yeah, 190 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.120 And I was like, but that doesn't make it okay, it doesn't. 191 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.080 It makes it worse, just makes me judge them harder. Yeah, Alex 192 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.399 Is there's no stopping it now. Yeah, it's yeah, less than a 193 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.559 week. You could try, but you could fail. I mean, at 194 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:18.559 this point, at this time, next week, E three will effectively be 195 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.799 over right, we will know everything there is to know, Yeah, and 196 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:28.600 then we can leave. Yeah, but before we go far, before that 197 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:31.000 happens, Yes, some games have been coming out, That's true, Alex, 198 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:35.639 Yes, I want to hear about Mirror's Edge Mirror's Edge Catalyst. So 199 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.679 I finished it right before I got Yeah, no kidding, that was fast. 200 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:45.000 Yeah, And I just started on like Friday I did. After a 201 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:50.159 point, I kind of decided I was just gonna mainline that game as opposed 202 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.159 to doing a lot of the side stuff, because at some point I realized 203 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.639 I was not really enjoying the side stuff very much at all. So I 204 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.360 played the I played through the beta, which is like the first hours of 205 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.200 the game. Yeah, adder, and it seemed like the side stuff was 206 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.559 very much like, hey, I got a package that needs to get to 207 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.799 there in sixty seconds or less. So here is the tragedy of that stuff. 208 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.759 The best thing about Mirror's Edge Catalyst is the world. The layout of 209 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:24.600 the city is a great jungle gym to run around in. It is awesome. 210 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.320 Like they have done careful laying out their occasional things about the controls that 211 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.799 drive me nuts. You don't always grab onto pipes the way you should. 212 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.159 It occasionally misses, and like as you turn in ways that you don't think 213 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.840 you're going to. Some of the end stuff involves some really bad platforming sections 214 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.159 that are just not meant to be there. They want to be more precise 215 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:45.320 and the controls will allow. But in general, just like it is a 216 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.960 game that I did not want to fast travel in because you like doting around, 217 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.440 because I like getting around, Like, actually getting to the missions was 218 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.600 more fun to me than the actual missions for the most part. Okay, 219 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.519 so you would think that these side missions, which are mostly these courier jobs 220 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.799 that are timed and just have you like finding the best route to get to 221 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:07.840 the next spot, would be great. There's the problem is twofold one. 222 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.759 The timer is totally arbitrary. If you fail the timer, you get the 223 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.840 same message from the person who gave you the jobs, saying like, oh, 224 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.720 you broke the thing, which obviously no I didn't. I just didn't 225 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:24.440 make it in the fifty seconds you gave me so like and honestly, those 226 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.960 times are tuned in such a way that it's very clear the path they are 227 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.559 showing you is not the fastest, so it's a lot of trial and error 228 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:33.039 to figure out what the fastest way to do it is. I would be 229 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.600 more okay with that if you did not have this museum ass narration that came 230 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.960 along with it. Every single time where it's like it's like one of those 231 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.080 museum displays where they're like, well, you know, back in my day, 232 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.519 this is how we did. Like it was just it's them explaining to 233 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:50.440 you why they belong in this world. Even in that beta when I played 234 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:54.080 like a few of us, like they would tell you their life story as 235 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:56.440 you were hauling ass trying to get to wherever, and that doesn't go away 236 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:01.000 as you repeat that objective over and over again. So that ship is super 237 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:05.679 frustrating and I eventually kind of gave up on that side stuff which is the 238 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.200 same because some of the more fleshed outside missions are better. There's these mainframe 239 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.039 ones where you're running around and you're climbing through these giant computer stacks that have 240 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.840 like laser beams that you're not supposed to cut through. Those are kind of 241 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.519 neat puzzles, and there's like a couple of there's like two or three really 242 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.080 good story missions, like they're kind of some of the more vertically oriented ones, 243 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.000 you're climbing up like big you know, buildings that are construction and stuff 244 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:31.200 like that, but a lot of it just kind of falls flat and the 245 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:37.600 ending is terrible, both from a gameplay span point, and from a story 246 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.360 standpoint, the last thing, so they give you a grappling hook in this 247 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:45.080 game because games have those now that is the thing that they do. So 248 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.120 you have one. Yes, games about climbing give you grappling so you can 249 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.480 circle without the climbing, And for most of the game it's just kind of 250 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.039 like it's there. There are swinging sections, there's a few where you like 251 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.039 use it to get up to stuff, and that's fine. The whole last 252 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.960 level of that game is a lot of you mantling up to platforms on a 253 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:06.639 very very high building, and they completely rely on the tension of being in 254 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:10.480 this extremely precarious building and not actually what you're doing in it. Like there's 255 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:12.000 very little action. There's a little bit of running around, a little bit 256 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.559 of wall running, but most of it is just you finding the next thing 257 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:19.879 to grapple hook up to and that's it. And then after that you fight 258 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.320 two of the biggest, like the toughest enemies at once, and then the 259 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:27.159 last fight is a cut scene. Nice ye, Well, so what's the 260 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:32.120 deal with combat in this game? So it's been simplified a lot from the 261 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:36.120 first game, and not necessarily in a bad way. It's a lot easier 262 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:40.720 to take dudes on. You really only have like these light and strong attacks, 263 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:42.840 but you also can do like leaping attacks that killed dudes in one shot. 264 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.039 And that's all kind of tied to that upgrade system, which is feels 265 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.600 very tacked on in a You start the game with half of your motion abilities 266 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.120 already unlocked, so like, why are they even on the skill tree. 267 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:00.799 I don't know, they just are. But so the idea is you're trying 268 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.519 to use your speed and dodging and kind of running off walls to get dudes 269 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.279 done down quickly. In practice, that doesn't really happen as much. Mostly 270 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.480 you're just kind of kicking at dudes until they go down and trying to dodge 271 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.440 bullets while also making that happen. They usually go down in a few shots, 272 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.200 especially once you kind of upgrade your your combat skills. But it doesn't 273 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:25.480 flow the way that the traversal stuff does. Yeah, so there's no guns. 274 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:26.960 That's fine at all, Like you don't shoot it. Don't shoot a 275 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:30.519 gun in that game, and that's you could You could pick up guns in 276 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.799 the first one. Yeah, you could shoot. They specifically say these guns 277 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.839 are coded to their users, so you couldn't use them if you wanted to, 278 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.880 which fine, I don't have a problem with that, but the combat 279 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:42.200 doesn't have a great flow to it, and there are maybe a few too 280 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:48.000 many sections where they are reliant on you being in combat instead of avoiding it, 281 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.720 Like there are sections where you have to clear this set area of enemies 282 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.839 to move on. Yeah, which is weird because like even in that there's 283 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.920 one big story mission in the beta that I played, it's like when you 284 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.319 infiltrate that big office complex. Yeah early on uh, and they introduce that 285 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.960 that mechanic of there's like a meter that fills up as you are running. 286 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.640 Yeah, Likes, as long as you maintain your top speed, you fill 287 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.559 this meter that then lets you dodge a bullets. Like basically enemies can't hit 288 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.480 you while this meter is full. But like as soon as you stop, 289 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.240 as soon as you you know, stop maintaining your your top running speed, 290 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.480 like that meter starts training. Yeah, anything that that that hinders your momentum, 291 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.960 right, So it seems like they would just want you to keep moving 292 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.720 and so you don't have to fight and and just dodge everything. But then 293 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.400 if they're making you stop and fight, dudes, And there are absolutely segments 294 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.480 where you can just avoid fights, Like there's a there's an ability where you're 295 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.079 if you're just running full speed and a dude sort of appears in front of 296 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:37.720 you, you can just shove that dude out of the way and keep going, 297 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.559 and that you know, in those instances, that's probably the best way 298 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.279 to go. But there are like there there is actually a section during that 299 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:49.240 last level where you turn a corner and there's like twelve dudes just standing there 300 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:53.759 like having a meeting, and then they all attack you. And it's like, 301 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:56.079 well, I have to wait for this elevator, so I guess that 302 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.839 means I have to fight these dudes while I'm waiting here. And it's not 303 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.000 great. Yeah, I've found the combat to be kind of clunky and just 304 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.400 desjointed and stilted and just I mean, I'll say it's it's better than the 305 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.720 first game because it works like you can get through a fight and live and 306 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:14.119 not have to constantly repeat fights. But it's not it's not a great solution. 307 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:17.960 That game feels like a whole lot of concessions to me, like they've 308 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.839 like they conceded that they needed to sort of apply this open world formula to 309 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:23.880 it, and in that case it wasn't a negative because the open world works 310 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:27.160 for that game, but the rest of the things they built around for that 311 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:32.519 open world are just not that great. Uh. It feels like they conceded 312 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:34.640 that the combat was bad in the first game, but the way that they 313 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:38.920 went about that here did not necessarily make it better, just easier. And 314 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.799 I think they've also just kind of conceded that, like nobody really cares that 315 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:47.119 much about Mirror's Edge on like a grand scale, like it has a cult 316 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:49.160 audience. I know, And I don't think that first game is like bad 317 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:52.519 necessarily, but it didn't sell super well for them, So let's just get 318 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.680 this game out before E three and just be done with that. Yeah, 319 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:57.039 Like remember a couple of threes ago and they were like, hey, Mirror's 320 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.480 Edge is coming back, and everybody was like hey, and then it just 321 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.279 kind of came out. Wasn't that the same one where they did a Mirror's 322 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.039 Edge and Battlefront which were too just like internet darling, cold audience things. 323 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.039 Yeah, they're doing both of them. Think I think that was the E 324 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:11.720 three where they had nothing to show at their press conference, right right, 325 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:17.000 like three Teezers, like the Eye of they talked about like half a dozen 326 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:18.799 things they were going to do. But yeah, like they had and they 327 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.240 had always, you know, they always were asked about making another Mirror's Edge, 328 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.559 and they would kind of give their statements about like, oh, we 329 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:29.359 really want to get back to Mirror's Edge someday. And so it seems like 330 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:33.680 the sort of game that would only happen as a passion project unless they could 331 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.119 find a way to blow it up into some big, grand thing that would 332 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:40.480 do the numbers that like EA probably expects out of its big budget games. 333 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.240 But from what you're saying, it doesn't really sound like it has the feel 334 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:51.079 or the passion of a passion project. I like it sounds kind of a 335 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.119 cookie cutter to me in some ways. Yeah, I mean there are elements 336 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.599 of it where you can kind of see that. Again, I think the 337 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.519 world design, like the map design and the way that you get around, 338 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.599 like, I think that stuff feels really lovingly crafted. It's it's it's designed 339 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.920 in such a way where it doesn't feel like a chore to get around the 340 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:08.279 world, and that's that's hard to do in a game like that. Does 341 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.759 it feel like a real open world because, like you know, again, 342 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.799 I only spent like the first two hours with it, but it felt kind 343 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.240 of like the skeleton of an open world. It's like because you're only on 344 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:18.960 rooftops, so there aren't a whole lot of different areas you can move between 345 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.720 them. There there are more you're very much funneled through, Like here's the 346 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.599 one hallway or the one like zip wire that connects these two buildings together. 347 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.160 It's a little labyrinthine, and that not everything feels like it connects together the 348 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.200 way it should. But I would say, like there are more neighborhoods that 349 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:36.079 open up over time. It does get to a decent size. It's not 350 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:40.519 huge by any stretch, but I'd say there's enough there to where I felt 351 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.759 like I was getting into some very discreet areas that that felt a little different 352 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:45.359 from each other. But the whole art design of that game, like it's 353 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:49.960 so uniform and frankly a little boring. Like I think it looks okay. 354 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:55.359 Not the console version seemed like they're blurrier, like a lot blurrier than the 355 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:59.359 footage I've seen in the PC version. PC version look nice. That's what 356 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.720 I've played yea and it looks. Yeah, the Xbox One version does not 357 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:04.400 have that sharpness. But on top of that, there's just something about this 358 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.440 stetic design of that game where it's like it was really cool in two thousand 359 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.279 and eight, it was really cool, like a kind of sterile. Yeah, 360 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:15.039 Yeah, there's something like it's like austere or to a fault like the 361 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.039 thing I kept thinking of. And there're obviously two totally different games, so 362 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:19.880 they're kind of going for a different a similar aesthetic was remember me, Like 363 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:23.960 that is a game that does that sort of Luke Bisson future like very colorful 364 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.240 future thing, but it feels like a lived in world, Like there's grime 365 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:30.119 on it, it feels like people live there. This feels like a brochure 366 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.799 for an expensive spa. Yeah, especially because like the beginning of the game 367 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.880 like builds up this whole like kind of class warfare. You know, there's 368 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.000 this there's this kind of ruling class underclass chotomy that doesn't seem like it actually 369 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:47.119 depicts no in fact, if anything, it's extremely surface level about that stuff, 370 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:51.759 to the point where there's a there's a side character in that game who 371 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.880 is the head of a violent leftist organization that is trying to take down the 372 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:57.880 corporate overlords, and her whole thing is like, you know, like they 373 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.079 won't listen to us. Negotiation is not an option. We're you know, 374 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:04.200 we're doing what we have to do to survive. There is actually a side 375 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:07.640 mission where you are leaping around a building for her, and while that's happening, 376 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.039 she is literally narrating like a socialism one O one lecture at you. 377 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:17.279 It's the most like surface level bullshit thing. It's so weird. I don't 378 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.319 know, like the politics of that game don't really matter very much, Like 379 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:23.880 what's happening in it doesn't really matter. It's definitely a story reboot as opposed 380 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:27.720 to a full on prequel or people. They straight up change what the nature 381 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:33.319 of Faith's relationship to her sister was. And I got that wrong coming out 382 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.000 of the previous stuff because the way it opens makes it seem like like even 383 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:38.759 even when they make this big deal out of giving you your runner clothes back, 384 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.359 yeah, you know, it's like here's the iconic Faith outfit put it 385 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:47.480 on. They keep like the basic backstory, but like the sister character plays 386 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:51.480 into a lot of what's happening, at least, like her history with her 387 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:55.920 family and all that stuff, and I don't know, Man, the twist 388 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.720 they try and deliver on this one is just the most telegraphed obvious thing I've 389 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:02.920 seen in the game in a good long while. It's not good. It's 390 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:06.839 it's not a good story, but you know, again, as a playground 391 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:08.839 to run around in, it's kind of neat. But the game parts of 392 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.400 it did not do as much for me as I was hoping. That's a 393 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:17.240 shame. Good to know. Yeah, uh, you've been playing anything else? 394 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.160 Uh, you know, the usual stuff. I've been playing the Overwatch 395 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.000 and and still working my way through Uncharted and Doom in small spurts because I 396 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.960 kind of want those games to last for a bit. But yeah, that's 397 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.440 that's pretty much Benett. Did you uh do you want to play in Overwatch 398 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.079 on PC? No? I'm playing on PS four. You're still on console? 399 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:37.119 Yeah, I remember you're saying in Slack the other day it was like 400 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:41.519 impossible to find people to play with us. Not impossible, but it's it 401 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:44.240 definitely seems like more of my friends are playing on PC than on PS four. 402 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:45.920 I have a ton of friends on PS four. I hate the divide, 403 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.039 like I'm playing with a bunch of people on PC, but a lot 404 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:51.759 of people it feels like a game that should have cross platform. Yeah, 405 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.119 I know, great, Yeah, I know. They came out before release 406 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.319 saying like that's it wouldn't be fair because like turn speed is a big thing, 407 00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:59.519 and you know, mouse users would have a huge advantage and stuff. 408 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.000 I want to say. There was something just out either today or this week 409 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:04.759 where they were kind of talking about some of the future updates for the game, 410 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.559 and they were saying they wouldn't be opposed the idea of Xbox One PS 411 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:12.400 four cross platform sure play, but I think that would make sense. But 412 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:18.720 putting put putting GamePad people against mouse and keyboard people like that doesn't I get 413 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.920 it. But the aiming in that game and the way that that you know, 414 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.400 there's like a decent amount of like window room for you to get your 415 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.200 shot in. I feel like it doesn't require the same precision as a lot 416 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:33.480 of other Go ahead. Oh, if you're like Turbiorn or Mercy or someone 417 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:34.480 like yeah you don't or Fara, you know, it's all kind of like 418 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.680 splash damage. You're kind of homing stuff you don't need, even like Eniauta, 419 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.240 Like if I'm just throwing those orbs in the general direction of a dude. 420 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.000 It seems like it's doing the dayment. She was incredibly generous. I 421 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.400 saw there was an animated gift going around yesterday of Hanzo. Yeah, from 422 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.680 his perspective making a shot like through the lip of a doorway, Like the 423 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:56.880 person is fully obscured by the edge of this doorway and he basically kind of 424 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.240 shoots into the wall. Yeah, and still get the kills through. Yeah. 425 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:02.640 Like it. It seems like they're really fudging a lot of the aim 426 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.480 stuff. I think that's okay though, because it because all the characters are 427 00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.079 like that. I think it all kind of blends together, and it's part 428 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.599 of what has made me enjoy that game is honestly, like, I don't 429 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.720 feel like I have to be incredibly precise with my It's what always kills me 430 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.839 in competitive first person shooters is I'm just not that precise. And game again 431 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.680 is all about just big, splashy special abilities and team composition and synergy. 432 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.079 Have you played as Winston much? Oh? Yeah, he's like fourth or 433 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.400 fifth on my list and its played he is. He is great for if 434 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:30.680 you don't want to be precise. Oh, Yeah, monkey raging around and 435 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.920 punching people. Just dropped that shield and just start electrocuting motherfuckers, all branches 436 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:38.119 out and hits everything. Yeah, he's it's good. I'm really liking him. 437 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:44.400 It's like Zenyatta Winston Zaria Soldier seventy six. Seventy six is pretty good. 438 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.079 Yeah. And there was one other one that I've been playing a bunch 439 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.119 of lately, uh, Torbiorn I's just started messing around with and I like 440 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:52.480 him. I like junk Rat too. I've kind of I started to get 441 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.880 into junk Rat. Yep. He's really good. Jeff, you're still playing 442 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.440 much. I end up playing like one match of it last night, yeah, 443 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.200 and then stopped. That's kind of what I do. I play like 444 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:04.759 two or three matches at night, and that's that I do hours every night. 445 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.400 Jeez. I just haven't had a ton of time, and I'm just 446 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:14.240 you know, like E three coming up all those fatally. As I sat 447 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:15.279 down, was like, oh, I'm gonna actually I'm gonna get some overwatching 448 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.160 and played one match, I was like, good, Yeah, I had 449 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.920 enough. I'm the total opposite, like we have to force ourselves to go 450 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:22.400 to bed at the end of every name, like, damn it, we 451 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.000 want to do another one. Well, having somebody sitting next to you also 452 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.279 playing would I'm sure would make it. Yeah. It helps that my girlfriend 453 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.039 does not actually enjoy watching me play that game very much. So after a 454 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.400 point, I'm like, you know what we're good for? Tonight's cool. 455 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.119 I told Bianca that, like, oh my god, it's kind of concerning 456 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.279 the amount of like mobile like speak that's coming from our living room now. 457 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.039 Lots of like okay, why don't you you know, you resume or you 458 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.440 give me the power boost while I hit my alt And it's just stuff that 459 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.119 I've never said before because I don't play multiplayer games that much. Now we're 460 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.160 doing the lane starts entering your vocabit lane or and that's when it comes That's 461 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.000 when it comes to a head. But I'm kind of getting it now, 462 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:57.680 Like I kind of got the motive stuff a little bit with Hearers of the 463 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.160 Storm. You want to check out some lane? No, No, I'm 464 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.319 gonna be playing Overwatch for a long time. Stay in your lane, Brad, 465 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.480 all right. I started to get the mobid thing a little bit with 466 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:07.640 here Is of the Storm, at least kind of appreciating it. Or seeing 467 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.160 what the appeal was. But now that I'm seeing all these different characters that 468 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.720 I like playing and seeing how their abilities play off each other, and playing 469 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.119 as a team or at least even just me and Bianca, it's really really 470 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.079 fun. So I kind of get that. And obviously Overwatch is not a 471 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.640 MOBI, but the way those characters are in their abilities it seems similar, 472 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.519 right, It's it takes some ideas they have alts. Yeah, yeah, 473 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:32.200 Like whenever I get the Soldier seventy six is old and somebody's holding a point, 474 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:33.799 the other team is like, will wait and she'll give me the power 475 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.319 up beam from Mercy. I'll pop the old and go in there and just 476 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:38.319 like you know, wipe their whole team. It's you know what, Actually 477 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.519 playing that game with my DOOTA friends is really fun because all the abilities, 478 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.279 everything that they talk about is just in Dota terms, Like yeah, like 479 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.279 even who's the who's the character that will like snare? Is it Roadhog? 480 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.279 And the chain that like it just kind of a magic ability that sort of 481 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:57.160 just snares and pulls everybody section grenades. She's the sorry, yeah, what's 482 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:00.839 what is tracers? Tracer throws down of mine? I haven't been able to 483 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.599 figure out what the hell it does. It's like a pulse mind or something. 484 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.319 I think it's I think it repels right when ye bounce somebody back. 485 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.000 I think it does okay anyway, like every time and nothing. I don't 486 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.799 really use trace her at all, Like like that that that suck everybody inability 487 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.519 is just a black hole. Like you just talk about the things in terms 488 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.319 of what they are in Doda. Yeah, the Zaria one's really good on 489 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.200 that stage where there's that big gap in like that that pit in the center, 490 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:26.359 Like if you can just drop that thing, if there's a couple of 491 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.599 enemies nearby and just drop that like near that, they will get their asses 492 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.400 pulled in. It's pretty good. The Farrah concussive blast thing where she shoots 493 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.359 the grenade that launches him back, that is fantastic. There's ever an edge 494 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:38.759 or that well in the center that one stage and just send him flying. 495 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.319 Oh, it's so good. Like God, your Reinhart while he's charging you 496 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.839 and he goes over the edge. Reinhart is the best looking character that I 497 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.599 never want to play. He's always helpful to have on your team. Oh 498 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:49.160 he is. I'd never want to play him though, No, no, 499 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:53.039 I don't want to hold the damn shield. Definitely, that's your weekly Overwatch 500 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.279 discussion. He's good to hear. He was so good it is. I'm 501 00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.799 curious how much people stick with it post e three, of course. I 502 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.599 it's kind of a dry period in the summer, right a little bit. 503 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:04.960 I think it depends on when they start rolling out stuff. Yeah, have 504 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:10.319 they They've said a little bit. They've kind of they've started talking about their 505 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.720 cadence a little bit and some of the stuff that's coming up in terms of 506 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.839 new characters and maps. Oh, they're straight talking characters already. Yeah, 507 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.759 there's there's one. There's at least one one that's been confirmed that Cheese and 508 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:25.359 Sniper. Yeah, okay, everything's free righting maps, characters and that's what 509 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.119 they're saying. Okay, As I think it's just by cosmetics and awesome, 510 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:30.720 I mean, that's just kind of the way of things with multiplayer shooters these 511 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.160 days, which I think that's fine with me. I think that makes sense, 512 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.599 especially because I just think that that game, for as for as good 513 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.799 as I do think it is, I think like it is thin content wise, 514 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.119 like, especially especially on consoles where there is no forty dollars option, 515 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.960 like there are definitely Like I'm at a point where I'm like, I need 516 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.000 maps. Yeah. The thing for me is, like I the other multiplayer 517 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.440 shooters I've played for long periods of time have typically been called duties, where 518 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.000 there are you know, you're leveling up, you're unlocking things, you know, 519 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.480 there's a progression. They are things to look forward to. With this, 520 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.559 it's just the loot boxes and whatever random sprays instead of you get But 521 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.559 I think that speaks to how good that game is, because I'm still playing 522 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.200 it obsessively every night, even without like you know, yeah, loot boxes 523 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.240 are fine, and I like opening those, but there's not some end goal. 524 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:15.799 I'm just playing it this much because I'm having so much fun. Yeah, 525 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.559 you know, especially because the unlocks don't change the game and yeah, 526 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.720 yeah it's like, oh I got a different skin and that's cool. I 527 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.400 guess that's also what's keeping me from ever spending money on those as I just 528 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.359 don't care. Like and also, like I said, as someone who bought 529 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:33.200 like fifty boxes, like the draw to level up is the draw to like 530 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:34.599 continue to play, and like, oh if I keep playing, I get 531 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.640 the consecutive XP bonus on top of that, so I should probably play a 532 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.559 bunch in a row. Noah, I don't care. I've bought the cosmetics 533 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.240 and now that whole system seems broken. So like my recommendation continues to be 534 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.680 never buy a lootbox, right, you have not look forward to because because 535 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:55.880 A don't buy cosmetics. But I'll be also like don't like it totally disrupts 536 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.359 like the feeling of like, oh what I level up and got a box 537 00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.119 that's cool and just becomes like a there's another one of these. I don't 538 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:05.079 know. I've gotten so many spray only boxes at this point that I'm already 539 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.960 kind of disrupted from that. Yeah, that definitely doesn't help. A. 540 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.599 Nine out of ten boxes I get are three of the common gray ones and 541 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.759 one blue one. Yeah, I've gotten one legendary and it's a hat tip 542 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.799 for Macree. It's like it's like in a moat great awesome legendaries are the 543 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.119 orange ones? Yeah, epics or purple is yeah? Literally the same color 544 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:29.079 system is stone yeah yeah, uh yeah. I think we said this exact 545 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.440 thing, this exact thing last week. But like the t F two model 546 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.960 of like starting to roll in weapons that actually do different things, Like it 547 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.720 kind of makes you wonder if they'll ever go down the road of like I 548 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:43.200 wonder there was a gun that shoots a different type of projectile. I wonder, 549 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.359 But I also think that would be bad for the game. Yeah. 550 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.559 I heard that the skins can change abilities, like the way they look, 551 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.039 not functionally, but like if you have the young Hanzo, his dragon turns 552 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.839 into a giant like wolf spirit stuff like that. I believe that. Yeah, 553 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:58.119 I wonder how many characters that game could support, Like, what is 554 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.119 a twenty twenty one? Now? Definitely right right? I think they could 555 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:05.480 probably get it up to thirty yeah, and still have it and maintain that 556 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.680 balance once they start getting into like forty or fifty range, It's like, 557 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.400 well, okay, now you just have a WWE game roast year at this 558 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.640 point, presumably we're not talking about these scores. What if what if Josina 559 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:19.519 was literally in the probably get like Darren Young at that point? All right, 560 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.799 you say what Backlund's been talking about this whole time? Yeah, you 561 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.440 guys have your own podcast for this fits right right? Uh yeah, all 562 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:29.319 right, Dan? Yeah, did you finish Doom yet? Keep wanting to 563 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.640 I'll play it, but then I'll just want to keep playing over on get 564 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:35.319 Out. It's only like halfway from Doom at this point. Yeah, I'm 565 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.559 I really like that game. I've just been dragging it. Now that I 566 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:40.640 am playing with the mouse and keyboard, it is, it's much better. 567 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.480 How's it? Some hang on, you're on a lapboard of some kind? 568 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.559 No, that's right, No you're just like, oh right, you're yeah, 569 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.680 yeah, you were talking about a lapboard they had. I just walking 570 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.559 down here, I saw in the storage closet they have that big lap dog 571 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.640 thing, which I think is specifically for that. So I might see if 572 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.319 I can borrow that and see, like how that is, I think to 573 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:01.039 hear, like, you know, I feel like people have been talking about 574 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:05.000 lapboards since the Phantom, right, yep. I think this might just be 575 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.759 like a shell that it's supposed to like just be comfortable and then you put 576 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.199 your stuff on it. But okay, I'll take a look masks to see 577 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.800 that working. But like, I've never liked the idea of like having my 578 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.320 mouth pad on my knees, you know, not much movement. It's to 579 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.960 my right, it's to my right. But yeah, i'd be curious, 580 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:24.519 curious to hear how that works out. Play Doom. Yeah it sh I 581 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.400 did have a friend in town that doesn't play a lot of games anymore, 582 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.840 and he's like, hey, are there any new games out that I should 583 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:31.719 try. I was like, oh, you would probably like Doom, and 584 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.880 so we left the bar and we went home and I made him play two 585 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.639 hours of Doom and he bought it immediately. So I'm preaching the word of 586 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.360 spreads for the good word. Yeah, excellent. I gotta get that satan 587 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.639 out there. Yeah, that's what we always say. Yeah, he'll say, 588 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:50.480 yeah, Jeff, hello, you play anything. I have been fooling 589 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.559 around, well, not so much lately. So I played some Dangerous Golf. 590 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.039 Oh right, yes, that's right. That came out. I totally 591 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.719 want to play that this weekend, and I tried to. Yeah, if 592 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.159 I did not have Mirrors Edge, it would have play that. That game's 593 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.599 got some fascinating issues. Yeah yeah, So I don't know, Like my 594 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.079 first impression was really negative of Dangerous Golf, Like when when when we got 595 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.559 it in hand, when they brought it out, it was like, oh, 596 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.480 this looks interesting. But I was having trouble wrapping my mind around the 597 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.320 mechanics a little bit when they were showing it off, and then it just 598 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.400 kind of came out seemingly like a handful of days early. Yeah, like 599 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.239 it Yes, it literally dropped early on Steam. And then it just has 600 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.360 a lot of problem I was playing the PC version, which has like no 601 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.599 mouse and keyboard support, so requires a controller. It's a little finicky about 602 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:37.360 which controllers it supports, and it has no setup for like, hey, 603 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.800 here's how you accomp here's how you accomplish your goals, here's what your goals 604 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.280 even are, here's how to play. It's like, here's a control it 605 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.360 all it says is here's a controller layout that's going to show go to you 606 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.679 on the loading screen. Get in there, which if you're on PC, 607 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:54.519 is pretty quick. Yeah, right right, And so the act of playing 608 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:59.559 the game is mysterious. And if I hadn't, if if the developers had 609 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.840 not come out up here and sat with us and played a bunch of the 610 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.800 game, I probably would have played two holes of it and be like, 611 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.920 I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing. Forget this game. Like 612 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:12.440 it's just so it just seems like difficult to penetrate out of the out of 613 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.000 the gate. But I stuck with it a little bit, and and you 614 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.360 know, had knowledge from them bringing it by, so that definitely helped, 615 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.760 and kind of started wrapping my mind at around it a little bit and kind 616 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.679 of got into it. It's a physics seed. It's it's it's a physics 617 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:28.280 demo, you know, right. You make the golf ball bounce around the 618 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.599 room and fuck a bunch of shit up. You get points for fucking shit 619 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.800 up, and then at the end of fucking shit up, you hit the 620 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.000 ball in the hole, and if you miss the hole, you lose half 621 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.880 your money. I even after watching you play that game for thirty minutes, 622 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:43.400 I'm still not clear if making the put is actually automated or not. I 623 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.039 don't know. Sometimes I miss it, but you I just tap up on 624 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:51.920 the sticks to go in. Sometimes it bounce off walls and go in, 625 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:52.719 And I didn't even set that up, so I don't I don't know. 626 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:57.159 It's such a The game is like inscrutable, Like I have go on and 627 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.320 by that time you've destroyed much of the room, so the path between you 628 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.159 and the hole is covered in fucking physics chunks and garbage and statues and shit 629 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:06.519 so it's just like, I don't even know what I'm doing. Yeah, 630 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.159 it feels like very much a game that they had a concept in mind. 631 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.039 They didn't necessarily have a design doc in mind, but they said, well, 632 00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:15.480 what if we just built this thing and then we'll see what falls out 633 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.840 of it. I thought, like, when the announcement came out and they 634 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.440 briefly describe what it was, I was like, that sounds perfect. It 635 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.039 sounds great. People crash Mode like should make a game like yeah, and 636 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.400 a lot of it is burnout of crash Mode. You know, there are 637 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.400 definitely parallels for that sort of stuff. But it feels like it needs someone 638 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:35.119 who has not been making this game for the past however many years, to 639 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.199 just come in and write a manual for it, or to someone that can 640 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.239 come in and like, say, explain this game to me in layman terms, 641 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:44.880 not in the way that you guys talk to each other about it, 642 00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.320 because you are a small team that has been working on this game for a 643 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.079 very long time. Like just someone to come in and freshly pick it apart 644 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.280 and go, here's how you play. Here's a way to get people to 645 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.400 understand these basic concepts very quickly. Out of the gates, they can just 646 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.360 kind of get on with it and start having a good time. So like, 647 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.320 like when the room is pristine at the beginning of a level, do 648 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.480 you feel like when you're lining up that first shot that there's actually technique to 649 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.440 it or you're just kind of picking an angle and being like, well, 650 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.400 let's see what happens. I'm just picking an angle something. See what Let's 651 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:15.000 see what happens. I mean obviously, like you know, if you want 652 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.000 to go for the higher metals and stuff like that, you're gonna want to 653 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.159 think a little more. But I'm just looking at it like, looks like 654 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.199 there's a bunch of shit over here to break. Let's do that, right, 655 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:23.559 And these are all the early holes. They're like a hundred holes in 656 00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.440 this game, so you know, I assume that near the end you would 657 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.679 hope that they would be trick here. How different are the environments? So 658 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:36.079 there are there are not a hundred environments. Okay, it'll be like, 659 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:37.920 hey, here's this dining room again, but now there are instead of a 660 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.639 table and a bunch of shit on the table, here are some statues and 661 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:43.480 there's a bunch of other stuff around them. Okay, I think I mean 662 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.280 it's like it's four locations, right, It's four locations with like five environments 663 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.239 each or something like that, and and some of them are connected, so 664 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.800 you get doors open, you can go from the bathroom to this other room 665 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.880 and like kind of open up. And they have some modes and some additional 666 00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.880 stuff there too. So people have and very up in arms about the PC 667 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:07.360 version of that game since release for its lack of mouse and keyboard support, 668 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.679 and it's like given in the menus, like yeah, you literally you can't 669 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.400 even against the main menu menus. Yeah. I'd heard from some people that 670 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.800 that version, like you loaded up and just your audio just that's me. 671 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.119 Yeah, my computer's audio, Like if I even have it running in the 672 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.440 background, I can't like watch a YouTube video. Like my entire system audio 673 00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:27.960 is shut down. My surround sound receiver does not get any sort of input 674 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.000 if dangerous golfing. That seems bad. Yes, I messed around with it. 675 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.719 Lots of people on Twitter gave me advice, and there are a lot 676 00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.159 of people having different issues of that sort with the game as well. You're 677 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.559 an issue, my issue. So the game took a patch, took another 678 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:45.079 three gigs or so are you playing on PC. Yeah, okay, over 679 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:50.719 the weekend and I launched it. It's an Unreal Engine game, and it 680 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:55.679 launched and showed like this weird narrow strip of the main menu on the screen, 681 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:01.079 and also it launched the Oculus Home app. So that narrow strip is 682 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:05.320 the same resolution that a lot of VR games spit out to the desktop when 683 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.880 they launch, like what you're getting when you get the one eye. Yeah. 684 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:13.360 Yeah, So like, well, okay, they stealth added VR support. 685 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.840 Yeah, So for a second, I was like, oh, man, 686 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.199 did they totally because when they were out here, I asked about VR 687 00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.599 and they were like, ah, you know more than I do. I 688 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.039 don't know. We're you know, we're just trying to get this thing done. 689 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.199 So I was like, okay, well that makes sense because it seems 690 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.159 like a game that would be built for that. It seems like a game 691 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:29.159 that could benefit from VR. And I was like, well, I don't 692 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:30.280 know. That seems like a weird thing to add when so many other things 693 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.920 are messed up, but let's put this headset on and see what happens. 694 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.320 And sure enough, the main menu is displaying in the headset, but not 695 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.320 in VR, not in any kind of three sixty degree environment. It's just 696 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.039 a flat image being so if you try to like use like virtual desktop and 697 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.159 try to spit videos at the headset, they're not like VR videos, but 698 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.840 you can turn on like the viewing modes like they are VR videos. Yeah, 699 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.920 it looks like that. Or it's just spitting this image across your two 700 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.119 eyes and they don't line up, and the menu's not there. It's like 701 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.639 it's it's way too close, so your eyes crossed. It is unpleasant. 702 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.519 It is incredibly unpleasant to look at. And so you couldn't even play the 703 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.320 game this way. It's it's obviously like not meant to work this way, 704 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:13.679 but for whatever reason, the game is detecting the rift and launching that way. 705 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.440 It is still stuck that way. Yeah, unless you like I assume 706 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.280 if you won't plug the head I would have to plug that headset. I 707 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.000 assume. I assume that would make it work. But that's wild. But 708 00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:22.800 the way I got all that stuff set up, I'm not going to crawl 709 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:24.880 behind my PC to unhook the headset. It's not worth it, So I 710 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.320 will wait for them to fix it. Yeah, I think it's playing anymore 711 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.280 of it. Hopefully they put some posts really support into this thing because it's 712 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:35.280 it's you know, it seems like there's some value there and in this idea. 713 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.840 Hey there was an idea there that I really want to play. Yeah, 714 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:38.960 yeah, me too, but it sounds like it needs to be clean. 715 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.679 Yeah, it's And for a game that like somehow just seemed to slip 716 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:45.719 out early like that, that seemed even weirder, you know, it was 717 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.360 like, okay, is it self published? Yeah, okay, here's the 718 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.280 game that is launch that has like a cool core idea, but like needs 719 00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.800 a lot of well more than four days worth of work, I assume, 720 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.400 But like for it to launch early and feel as finished as it does just 721 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.079 seems really crazy. And this is an early access, this is the game. 722 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.400 Is the game's out, it's like twenty bucks. I think I believe 723 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.760 it's out on consoles now as well. I think I think I saw some 724 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:12.119 people saying it came out on at least on PS four. Yeah, I 725 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.599 think Xbox one two. But I suspect that that would not be a great 726 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.599 version to play, just because the you know, the the way the physics 727 00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.840 are getting simulated and all that stuff. I just I bet the performance would 728 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.559 not be great. Yeah, they brought a build of the game out that 729 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.000 was not final, but we saw it on PS four and it was like, 730 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:30.400 Okay, maybe I want to see this on a PC. But now 731 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:35.159 the PC version is broken in all sorts of different fun way. It sounds 732 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.960 like crazy too. So yeah, it's you know, maybe I'll get they'll 733 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.360 get there, but I wonder if by the time they get there, if 734 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.239 anyone will be paying attention. Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of doubly 735 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.199 unfortunate because hey, it's a cool idea that sounds like it deserved better. 736 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:50.440 But then b it's like, these are largely the people who created Burnout. 737 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.000 Yeah, like you know, who knows how much of their fortunes rest on 738 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:55.119 the performance of this game. Oh sure, this is the first game from 739 00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:01.480 this studio. Also yeah, yeah, so we'll see, we'll see if 740 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:06.000 they get there. There is a neat idea behind all of it. But 741 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.280 yeah, like I said, I just don't know. Nothing has come of 742 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:15.239 speaking of that e three years ago, that like that video they led with 743 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:16.639 that was like, hey, here are some of the people that worked at 744 00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:23.960 Criteria and I don't know, the super early kind of demo we're have a 745 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.039 name like epic. I don't remember if they had a name. I just 746 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.880 it also seemed very much like this is we have this little wet works area 747 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.920 over here that these people are working in. This is what they're messing around 748 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.079 with. That'll be something soon. There were a TVs and helicopter, multiple 749 00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.800 vehicles of different types. Yeah, yeah, I don't think anything ever came 750 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.840 of that. I don't think they put it. No, nothing has coming 751 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.559 that put a name on it. I don't know that they did. But 752 00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:51.639 so I suspect that that is still being worked on. But I don't know 753 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.840 how many people are part of Criterion anymore. Like that is it's still technically 754 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.480 a brand for them. I think that's still at that time. I remember 755 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.199 at the time Criterion name. And I'm also I was never clear exactly what 756 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:05.679 the split was with Ghost Games, Like how many people went over to that. 757 00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:07.760 I think the majority of people, a lot of my understanding, went 758 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.760 to you know, it was a bas like, hey, if you want 759 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.480 to keep working on driving games, we have a studio for you, and 760 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.159 it his name to Ghost Games, and Ghost Games worked on that need for 761 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.000 speeding. Yea, they are they are the need for speed to Yeah, 762 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.960 so you have it. We have a driving franchise and is called for speeding. 763 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:28.360 Yeah, not Burnhount and never So yeah, this whatever this team at 764 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.199 Criterion is, as I understand it has helped out on some of the need 765 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.000 for speed games anyway, and and maybe some other stuff. I don't know, 766 00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:39.159 but Black too, Black is mentioned by three Fields, like they say 767 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:40.920 like, oh, we have people who worked on Black here too, so 768 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.119 they are they are kind of claiming some of the Also the head guy on 769 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:50.920 Stuart Black, Stuart Black, uh make of the director of Black's last name 770 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.760 is blackouts right. Yes, that game was billed as this is the next 771 00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.679 game from the creator of Black. Oh fuck, and that game was bad. 772 00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.920 Yeah, that's true. That's very true. I gotta say, though, 773 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:08.800 that's some balls golf balls, Stewart Black. What's okay? So what's 774 00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.840 the name of your shooter Black Black? What? Yeah, that's it's It's 775 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:15.480 a really good name for it for a game of any type, really, 776 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.239 especially that the game that that was. It's like maybe a little presumptuous, 777 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.599 but hey, you do you that's fine, It's ballsy for sure. No, 778 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:29.920 man, Yeah, I don't know. I went back and played some 779 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.679 Black not that long ago. And it kind of like that game wasn't awful, 780 00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.199 No it was not, but it was not great, like because of 781 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.119 so much of the level design boiling down to we are going to spawn a 782 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.159 bunch of people and they are going to stand right next to this red barrel 783 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.559 and you're just gonna shoot the red barrels over and over again. And boy, 784 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.920 our explosions look good. But that's kind of all we got. Yeah, 785 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:52.639 totally. I never played that game, but I went to the E 786 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.840 three presentation for it, and I feel like I got what I needed. 787 00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:57.360 Is the one where they said, like, oh, we wanted to be 788 00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.480 fun to shoot a gun. It was an empty room. It was all 789 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.639 about like the sound design and how good it was and how many speakers they 790 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.719 had in them, and it was that is still that is still one of 791 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:09.239 the best three demos I've ever heard, really good. For sure, it 792 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.719 sounds like the game didn't live up to that kind of glad. I didn't 793 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.360 not at all. That game's not bad, but it is not the game 794 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.639 that we saw a D three. The box are just shell casings in the 795 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:27.199 word black yep. I think that's right that tirebox artists in that game. 796 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.119 But like if you go back and play that now and and think about like 797 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.199 what a Call of Duty campaign is, you see it? You see it 798 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.400 back then, like the game doesn't control as well, and the shooter conventions 799 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.480 for controls were not quite as dialed in then as they are now like three 800 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.280 or four or something. It was like, right, wasn't it, Like 801 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:46.920 right at the tail end of the original E was Yeah, I think oh, 802 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.639 four was the year. Yeah, that's probably right, the four. 803 00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.920 Somewhere in there. I was working in game spots. It was then. 804 00:46:52.320 --> 00:47:00.440 I think it came out on, Yes, it was on, And yeah, 805 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.880 I remember being pretty disappointed by that thing. I reviewed that game. 806 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.840 I don't know I remember, but I think, yeah, like there are 807 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.760 technical aspects of it that you cannot deny, but in terms of like what 808 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.039 that game could have been, And you you think about what that studio did 809 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.639 for the driving game and their whole pitch being we're going to do that for 810 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.719 the first person shooter, you're like fucking ay, and you're like, Okay, 811 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.480 no, this is not that at all. Yeah, Criteria used to 812 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.599 be a name you looked for. That studio was a force to be reckoned 813 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.880 with Renderwear Baby. Yeah, yeah, there was that I just rocks. 814 00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.559 I just dug out my copy of Burnout three the other day. I think 815 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:38.880 we're gonna do a stream of that time when I get back to New York. 816 00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:43.199 So I never I never played. I really never played the first four 817 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.079 Burnout games, but I got Paradise when everybody was going to ape shit about 818 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.679 it and like, holy shit, three is the one you're gonna go back 819 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.480 to an old one three one three is one of the mini games that I 820 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.360 have bought, and it is stolen the shrink wrap. So I never played 821 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:55.719 the first two, but three was one of them that they had. I 822 00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:59.599 was on campus and some EA rep would go around the dorms and show off 823 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.760 games coming out let's yeah, oh yeah, contests. I've heard of that 824 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:08.000 before. Yeah, the community outreach. Baby fucking e A street team knock 825 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.239 on in your dorm room door and just going like, yo, man, 826 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:15.159 you want to buy a sack? Okay, how about this copy of FIFA? 827 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.159 Hey many man, you hear about that FIFA? We got that FIFA. 828 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.199 Did they quietly leave a suspicious pringles can on your floor as they left? 829 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.000 No? No, they took it with him. No, it actually 830 00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:29.000 worked. I bought like Fight Night, MVP Baseball. They were just selling 831 00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:30.719 games as they went. No, Like they would have demos and I would 832 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.800 play them and be like, shit, I actually really like this. You 833 00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:36.320 still have to go out and get the game somewhere, I think so. 834 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.239 I think they would have contests. I think I won MVP Baseball because I 835 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.760 think I didn't buy that one. They had some kind what a thing to 836 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.320 home run Derby. It was a good game. Yeah, But then yeah, 837 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.280 I played like one level of Burnout three, having that played the previous 838 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:50.400 two and like, oh, well, I'm gonna go buy this immediately. 839 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.199 She was all right, Two was all right. Two, but three, 840 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:57.079 one and one and two for their time, we're close were acclaim games, 841 00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.880 yes man, but like Burnout three is where it all lined up for them. 842 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.239 Yeah, and and Revenge I still really like, yeah, it was 843 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.440 three, the first one that had crash mode or was that just where crash 844 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.519 mode became like came into it was where it was perfect, where it was 845 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.280 where they really nail it. Okay, Yeah, Revenge is really really good. 846 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.840 I mostly remember that being like, well, here's your first Burnout on 847 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.000 Xbox three sixty and you know it kind of lived up to that I've I've 848 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.840 come to I've come to understand that there's a segment of the Burnout fan base 849 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.800 that did not love Paradise. Yeah, and also, I mean there are 850 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:29.679 people that don't like Revenge also because of the traffic checking and because it was 851 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:34.599 just a grim It was a darker game. Burnout three is Ridge Racer, 852 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.039 Daytona Blue Skies, Okay, all right, Like nineties Arcades is the most 853 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:44.519 feat horrible car accidents, and then Revenge is like, these streets are gritty 854 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:49.280 and we're going to smash these cars. It still looks in plays like old 855 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.760 Burnout, it just has a slightly different color tint too, Yeah, exactly. 856 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:53.719 And that was enough for some people to be like, no, this 857 00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.559 is this this naw the forward looking optimism I want from my Burnout games. 858 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:00.239 It was. It was kind of a downer of a decade. Yeah, 859 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:05.880 get down to it. So every every game was I totally understand why people 860 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.920 don't like Paradise. It is such a different thing. But I love Paradise. 861 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:13.480 Don't get me wrong. I think Paradise is amazing. But so many 862 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.079 good things about it. Yeah, yeah, even even around the edges, 863 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:19.039 like for like never mind, how good like all the driving and crash stuff 864 00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.880 is but just like time in an open world, you ever wanting to do 865 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.559 everything in Yeah, everything from like you know, eight player donut contests to 866 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:30.519 their use of the Xbox Vision camera and like, yeah, man, such 867 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:32.119 a good so many good things in that game. An amazing game and and 868 00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:37.760 like a first like good example of like great post release support. Yeah, 869 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.800 which was as I understand that, like kind of experimental for EA at the 870 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.519 time that you know, you gotta remember this is like not it was like 871 00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:45.679 oh seven. Yeah, that was like the height of like, oh god, 872 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.199 we have stopped people from trading games. It came out in early oh 873 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:50.079 eight, yeah, but yeah, yeah, it was at the height of 874 00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.400 like online pass like handwringing and like, okay, how can we get people 875 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:57.960 to stop selling our games back? Uh? So, like Paradise was kind 876 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.599 of like the the big experiment of like trying to you can sell this content 877 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:04.000 for a good long time after the fact, or just release some of it 878 00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.199 for free. Even that was before every card game was like hey we put 879 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:08.960 the DeLorean in there, right, I think that was the first one to 880 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.800 do it. Yeah. Yeah, there was some some real kitchy attitude to 881 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.840 that thing like TJA Atomic was such a shiphead and god, I wanted to 882 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.480 leg drop that dude so hard. But yeah, and they had that Guns 883 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.360 and Roses storm they did. Yeah, what a game they did. Yeah, 884 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:28.400 it was a good game. It's a good time. Uh the servers 885 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.559 still up for that thing? Can you still play it? Good? That's 886 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.719 good time? Team? Right? It might be I think it is. 887 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.639 Yeah, Yeah, it definitely was at one point. I mean I know 888 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.960 that because you know, yes, But I don't know if it still is. 889 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:44.800 It might be a case of like a pulled back and now everything's just 890 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.840 on origin. If they take something down from the Steam, if you bought 891 00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.360 it before, you still have it, okay, even if you've uninstalled it. 892 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.199 Yeah, it still stays in your library. Cool. That would be 893 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.159 super fucked up if they just revoked at your access to the games that you 894 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.320 paid for. Might I play that tonight? Uh? That that hit the 895 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:04.000 three sixty back compat, didn't it Paradise? Yeah? I swore it did 896 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.920 not yet. I've seen a lot of talk about that, but I don't 897 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.840 know if it ever actually hit. That should happen. It should The skate 898 00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:15.760 games need to come there too, you know, now Now, that he 899 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.320 has come out and said basically that the dream is dead. Yeah. In 900 00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:23.360 one Twitter response, Yeah, I haven't played any of the skate games in 901 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.760 so long, and I would totally I would totally get those. They're worth 902 00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.400 They're worth playing. It's I remember just being really put off because you know, 903 00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.280 I grew up a Tony Hawk player and there's very arcady games and they 904 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.880 don't they don't require the level of precision that skate did. And I alsought 905 00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.320 skate was cool, but it always felt a little, uh, I don't 906 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.960 know, it was just a little beyond me at the time. I found 907 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.159 like it was made four skateboarders. Yeah, and as someone who cannot stand 908 00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:50.119 on a skateboard, I love Tony Hawk and I could not say I was 909 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.079 a skateboarder, but I was a very bad one. So that's probably why 910 00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.559 I never really clicked what you want to hold pizzas one grind? Yeah, 911 00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.000 yeah, I get it. I want I want Officer, I want that 912 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.800 dude. I want I want to be you know, the fat Slovenly cop 913 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.760 fight. It was skating against Superman, yep, Spider Man, whatever, 914 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.639 Officer, the same dick. That's right? Well Wayne, now yeah, 915 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.719 now, it's a little weezy wheezy f baby Tunci. We've lost so much. 916 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:22.400 And the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. They patched them into that game after 917 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.559 the fact. Sure that turned it around for them. Tony Hawk five, 918 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.360 Yeah, did they make Tony Hawk five great again? The whole campaign worked. 919 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.639 Did they actually shut the servers down for that or no? I don't 920 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.400 think so. I saw some people last week speculating that they or the thought 921 00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:39.519 that they were going down like that. It seemed like those servers we're gonna 922 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:44.159 get taken off line. I bet there is not a very strong player base 923 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.719 for that game online sixty dollars. The way it handled online was poor. 924 00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.599 Yeah, the way it handled everything was poor. Yeah. Yeah that game 925 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:55.039 is a bad game. Yeah. Yeah, that shame. Do you play 926 00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:59.800 anything else? So you want to talk about or we move on? We 927 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.800 got so much news. No that that's that's a video games. That's pretty 928 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.760 much it. Okay, all right to it, guys. I don't think 929 00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:08.360 we have to go to E three. Oh I think it already happened. 930 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:15.960 Wait what I think? Like by the hour at this point, the announcements 931 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.639 of E three are getting announced. Whether they want to be announced. There 932 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.840 are a lot of big announcements hitting this week. There are a lot of 933 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.199 things coming out. Can I just preempt you because I know what? Can 934 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.199 I just say it? I just want to say, with the biggest news 935 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:28.920 story here, okay, because I know I know what you're going with, 936 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:30.039 I know what you're opening with, and I have it over here on my 937 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.239 laptop. I just want to say, just because it just broke like minutes 938 00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.760 ago here, I just like saying it. Maybe we'll stay it together, 939 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.360 I'll say at the same time. Okay, three, two one six, 940 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:47.880 dine out? Yeah, okay, buildings on, dine run your own restaurant 941 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:52.880 in the SIMS be four. Go ahead, continue, Actually that doesn't sound 942 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.360 terrible. What's the name of your restaurant going to be? Uh? SIMS 943 00:54:55.480 --> 00:55:01.719 four restaurants? Okay, yeah, I feel like you could maybe work shop 944 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:06.960 that a little, but it's a good strong foundation. Hang on, hang 945 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.320 on, I've work shopped it. Are you ready? Yes, restaurant for 946 00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:15.679 SIMS number four or the word four four number four, So it plays both 947 00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:22.400 as sim Jeffrey Gersman, you've done it again. Sim's got to eat too. 948 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:28.880 They eat, they're not people, starve them to death. Build the 949 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:30.760 ball around them and let them die. No, no, no, let 950 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:35.679 them eat all they want, just don't provide them a bathroom, because Lord 951 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:37.079 knows they come into diner, but they can never leave. That's the way 952 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:42.199 to go. All right, yeah, man, uh, some things have 953 00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.199 gotten announced, but way more things have leaked. Can we just go on 954 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:46.480 on record and say, this is most likely all this stuff that did not 955 00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.960 find a slot onto one of the major press conferences. Oh do you think 956 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:52.639 that's the ka? I think some of it may be because could something has 957 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:58.280 been announced. Yes, anything that's been like formally confirmed and announced is probably 958 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.480 not gonna be Like we're not going to get the big tension spot here next 959 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:04.679 week, so let's just get it out now. And in a couple of 960 00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:07.599 cases it's like the entire lineup of a press conference, right potentially Yeah, 961 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.239 but then but then yeah, the other side, like all the leak stuff 962 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:13.840 like that. Yeah, yeah, I think more like the game announcement stuff. 963 00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:15.920 Okay, Well, I have I have roughly ordered these and the important 964 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:21.000 in the order of importance to me. Okay, okay, so let's go 965 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.199 down the line and I'll stand as it is your podcast. Okay, Okay, 966 00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:28.000 see if how we would have were okay. Also, yeah, i'll 967 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:30.559 i'll denote what has been leaked and what is actually legit announced. Mine just 968 00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:35.320 says Bill Goldburg is pre ordered DLC over and over and over again, like 969 00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:37.840 eighteen times in all right, go on. Volition is making a new game 970 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:43.800 and it's a new IP, well kind of. It's in the Saint Croo 971 00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.840 cinematic universe. It's it's got a new name on it, and it's about 972 00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:51.599 yes, yes, so it is technically a new IP. It's called Agents 973 00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:54.480 of Mayhem. Yeah. It seems to be some kind of open world superhero 974 00:56:55.159 --> 00:57:00.559 open world South Korea. A Hoy motherfucker plays three characters from a roster of 975 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:05.719 twelve. Have those details? Got No, it's initial. So they're taking 976 00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.719 pre orders and there's some bullet points and some reach about some of this stuff. 977 00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:14.199 I just saw the cinematic teaser for this, yeah, yeah, trailer 978 00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:15.719 with no gameplay in it, but just enough you know, they're using the 979 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:21.000 floridae, the just enough of the Saints colors and logo ahole lot of purple 980 00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.039 in that trailer to let you know that in this version of the future, 981 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:29.280 slash pass slash well, it's hard to call it future pass considering the last 982 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:34.440 Saints Row ended with the time machine, Uh what, this is a game 983 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.159 of future past? Sure, I mean I think the big talking computer heads 984 00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:42.239 at the end that the boss lady of the superheroes is taking orders from says 985 00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:47.119 all tour on it. Yeah, so that's also in Red Paction. They 986 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:52.199 don't own anymore. Oh right, So but well a'll tormate its way into 987 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:53.719 Saints Row prior to this. Is that one of those things that got bought 988 00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.880 by Nordic Yeah, okay, yeah, yes, yeah, and so yeah, 989 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:04.000 there's like a you know, the the reference that the colors and the 990 00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.960 logo and stuff like that, like that, one could imply that perhaps this 991 00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:12.519 is just what the Saints became at some point in the future slash past, 992 00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.800 slash alternative. It's the Korean it's a South Korean branch of the Saints. 993 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:17.920 Sure, they're crackdown guys. Now. Yeah. Part of me watching that 994 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.639 thing, especially at the end when the Saints logo came up and everything, 995 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:25.320 part of me was hoping it was just a beaten switch stealth Saints Row announcement 996 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.079 that they actually pull back and like, oh, by the way, this 997 00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:32.239 game is released. Yeah yeah, but it's probably better if they make something 998 00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:36.280 new. Yeah. I think it's cool that they're they're trying something that is 999 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.119 at least, you know, thematically has some ties to Saints Row, but 1000 00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:43.440 they are getting to at least like branch out beyond the here's another open world 1001 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.960 crime game. Yeah, although it is, they very much came out and 1002 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.119 said, hey, it's a single player open world game. That's fine, 1003 00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.679 like that with a bunch of crazy abilities. I think that's fine. But 1004 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.119 at least it's it has some differences and they can dig an experiment a little 1005 00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:55.519 bit, I hope. Yeah. It's a very you know, very irreverent 1006 00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:59.480 tone in that thing, Like it was sort of like kind of the Incredibles, 1007 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.639 like superheroes go like a little sweary. Yes they're not swear, but 1008 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.559 they don't like cursing. Yeah, Cursey, Yes, Yeah. One of 1009 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:13.880 the characters rolls up and just blurts out an unbleeped motherfucker, And I was 1010 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:16.679 like, wow, is that where we're at with our cinematic trailersals? Now, 1011 00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:22.960 the word awesome has been used on basic cable television no less than a 1012 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.400 handful of times this year. Really, yes, can you just do that? 1013 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:31.920 Now? You kind of always could because they're basic the fcole. I 1014 00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:35.519 mean, there are still regulations. It's not network TV, but like I've 1015 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.440 heard it on like basic cable networks and like and usually it's the thing they 1016 00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:42.679 don't do before ten pm. Yeah, Comedy Central would do the like Midnight 1017 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.800 Vault. We're gonna show this. Yeah. Yeah, it's got an edge 1018 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.480 to it. Oh yeah, it's I mean, the trailer whatever, there's 1019 00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:52.920 no gameplay in it, so you can't really you can't really take too much 1020 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:57.239 from But I think in terms of tone and what they're saying about the game, 1021 00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.320 I am interested to see more. Same the Bison accomplished on the trailer 1022 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.679 and the list of bullet points on Amazon in terms of like, Okay, 1023 01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.880 I want to this is a game. I want to see more. Yeah. 1024 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:09.320 Yeah, I can't say. You know, I would like if you 1025 01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:12.840 would said, hey, another superhero game, I wouldn't necessarily jump out of 1026 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:16.159 my seat. But since it's Folition, yeah, and it doesn't necessarily Yeah, 1027 01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.360 I mean they seem like they're you know, it fits this twelve character 1028 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.599 team. Then presumably it is some kind of fighting force. Yeah, the 1029 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:28.880 Agents of Mayhem presumably, yes, uh and and all that, but yeah, 1030 01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:30.559 I don't know, I didn't it didn't necessary. It read more as 1031 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:36.079 special operatives with fun powers as opposed to superhero to me. Yeah, sure, 1032 01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:37.639 but sure, but yes, and one and one of the characters is 1033 01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:43.400 basically the Mizka. One of the playable characters. Yeah, is that Hollywood 1034 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:45.159 was his name is Hollywood. Name is Hollywood? Okay. He calls in 1035 01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:50.159 a stunt double to do his special move the trailer, which if that is 1036 01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.400 a move in the game, that that that's the type of thing I would 1037 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:53.639 like to see in the game of like, Hey, I'm gonna hit call 1038 01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:57.079 this ability and it's going to make a clone of the run up and do 1039 01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.480 it if a guy who kind of looks like you rugs out and actually does 1040 01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:00.880 the ability. Yeah, there's some some good names in there, like doctor 1041 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:06.760 Babylon is the villain. Uh, I forget that. The boss lady's name 1042 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.719 was really good. It was like miss miss Brimstone or something like that. 1043 01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:13.480 I forget. Yeah, yeah, it seems promising, and we have an 1044 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:15.639 appointment to see that that show. Yeah, and I think and I think 1045 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.320 play it okay, I think we might get to play that. That's out 1046 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:23.079 next year. Okay, But yeah. I would like to see more of 1047 01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:27.440 that. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm glad that they are sticking to you 1048 01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:30.079 know, they kind of said a while back that, you know, they 1049 01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.920 wanted to maybe get away from Saints for at least at least a little bit. 1050 01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.280 Yeah, and they should. This is certainly Saints adjacent. Yes, 1051 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:40.000 this is leveraging some of their strengths. Yeah, without without going back to 1052 01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:45.079 that, well, I'm happy that they're gonna at least branch out a bit. 1053 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.400 I do very much hope Keith David is in that game somewhere though. 1054 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.599 You should be one of the twelve. Yeah, and you should be able 1055 01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.440 to fuck him and it should just be it should just be Keith David. 1056 01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:58.039 Yeah. Oh my god, that build romance Keith David. That that home 1057 01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:02.519 base mothership thing and for soho inspired. Yeah. Yep, man, it's 1058 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.679 like the best part of four. I actually kind of just want to play 1059 01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:09.639 Saints or four again. It's good. Okay that was announced, Okay, 1060 01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:15.360 this was not Dead Rising four. Yeah, potentially elaked. Yeah. This 1061 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:19.800 has been swirling around for a little bit even before this, like logo and 1062 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.920 supposed screenshot and title screen and stuff got out. Some other info coming out 1063 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.760 of like, oh, there might be a zombie game on the Xbox or 1064 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:30.199 something like people people have been data mining Xbox Live and posting weird shit to 1065 01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:31.800 Reddit. Yeah stuff. And then and then also there were just some people 1066 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:35.880 going like, oh, Capcom Vancouver is definitely working on a Dead Rising game, 1067 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:39.000 which of course they are. Yeah, they made two of them already. 1068 01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:42.199 They were both good. That is what that studio, well whatever, 1069 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.800 they made that baseball game before they got bought right, right, but yes, 1070 01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:49.760 that is they are the Dead Rising studio. Yeah. Dead people like 1071 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:52.719 Dead Rising. They should make another one of those. I like Dead Rising. 1072 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:57.280 I'm excited. I didn't like the last couple of Dead Risings as much 1073 01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:00.000 as other people. Dude, I thought three was great. I love three 1074 01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:02.960 for kind of other reasons, or it's you know, three's okay, three 1075 01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.280 more smartass fan. Yes, I used that. I used smart glass for 1076 01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.039 three. I couldn't great. I couldn't get to work, right. I 1077 01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:14.320 just don't think three. It didn't hit me the way it did a lot 1078 01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:15.159 of other people, Like I don't think it's a bad game. It just 1079 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.719 did like at a certain point I just kind of petered out. It was 1080 01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:21.840 it was not as Dead Rising, like not even remotely, Like you know, 1081 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:23.159 it was a lot more of a meat potato meat and potatoes open world 1082 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:27.800 game because it didn't by default did not have the weird time and starting over 1083 01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.760 stuff. And I actually liked that, Like that was the stuff. I 1084 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:34.119 was kind of glad they did. It's just the other stuff that was kind 1085 01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:38.840 of the wrapper around it just didn't hold me for that. That is absolutely 1086 01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:43.000 well Dead Rising games. Some of the main story characters were okay, especially 1087 01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.599 the weird ship that happened at the end that tied into the previous games, 1088 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.760 which I have spoiled on Game of the Year podcast and stuff, But so 1089 01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.239 I look for that if you want. But the like the psychos in particular, 1090 01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:57.239 like there was there was, there was like less of this like absurd 1091 01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.480 macab kind of like really disturbing tone that the last two games had. Yeah, 1092 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:03.760 it was a psycho encounters and stuff. It was still goofy as ship 1093 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.639 though, which did I worry with That first trailer was like calling an air 1094 01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:10.000 strikes and stuff. It didn't show all the weird way rights and stuff, 1095 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.199 but it's actually goofy, So that that E three showing was like the worst 1096 01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:15.320 way to show the Rising game. But yeah, like if you want to 1097 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.480 build a dildog gun, yeah, you can totally do that. I do, 1098 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:21.039 Yeah you should. That's we should put our heads together make a dildot 1099 01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:28.440 gun. So some shark tank, yes, I'm in all right. So 1100 01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.400 I think it's some promo art and one screenshot has come out that seems to 1101 01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:36.119 be seems theoretically leaked and just something you start to connect to the dots of 1102 01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:40.679 other leaks and stuff like that and piece together. Like the most likely scenario 1103 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:44.239 for Capcom Vancouver is that they would definitely be working on a Dead Rising follow 1104 01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:47.559 up, and Capcom is in a point at a point right now where they 1105 01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:53.000 don't have a lot of announced games. It's all incredibly plausible like this, 1106 01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.440 I'm sure, and I'm sure they will happily take another company's money to make 1107 01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:00.079 a game with if we don't, we don't know this ends up being just 1108 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.719 a Microsoft, you know, an Xbox One exclusive, but I would assume 1109 01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.800 do I suspect that's the case, But I guess I don't know. If 1110 01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:13.239 if I were them and I didn't have an exclusive deal worked out with Microsoft, 1111 01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.239 I would be getting the hell away from that as much as humanly pops. 1112 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.800 Well, like I said, the first like the first teases of the 1113 01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:21.000 stuff came out of like some Xbox Alive. I say, it's not coming 1114 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:25.639 to Xato'm saying if I be trying to get that thing on the PlayStation and 1115 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:29.719 well, but keep in mind that then your Capcom funding that whole game yourself, 1116 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.119 which you know Capcom is not a money factory. Yeah, I mean, 1117 01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:34.320 considering where a street Fighter went, maybe that's just not an option. 1118 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:38.760 So like, I don't I don't know if they place a bet on Dead 1119 01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:43.199 Rising four unless they have money coming in as someone else's so that that would 1120 01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.199 be it was three successful. I think I think it was. Yeah, 1121 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:49.880 it was a launch game like sales like whatever, but the higher prople it 1122 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:54.079 was it was arguably the best launch game on either one of those consoles. 1123 01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:57.000 Yeah, so yeah, so I would assume it did, okay, just 1124 01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:00.679 by that virtue, I want you a reason to you know, it gave 1125 01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:03.559 you all reason to care about the Xbox One and if you didn't care about 1126 01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.519 Rise or some of this other stuff like it was Yeah, definitely the launch 1127 01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:12.119 game. It was a high profile sequel like that's I think it did everything 1128 01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:15.079 that I suspect it would have done everything Microsoft wanted that game to do when 1129 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.119 they made that deal. Do we have any idea how Street Fighters doing for 1130 01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:24.440 them for Capcom? Yeah? No, not well, not well, it's 1131 01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.920 just not picking out no. No. And then they missed the window for 1132 01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:31.039 like they did not have any new content in May. They pushed their May 1133 01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:34.119 content back but back to June. Yeah, and they're rolling in a booky 1134 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:40.800 with the story update and generally speaking, generally speaking, very generally, no 1135 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:45.039 one fucking cares, right, So are people just going back to four? 1136 01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:48.800 No? No, the fighting game community does not go back so from in 1137 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:53.159 a competitive sense, they will keep playing five and five is he is a 1138 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.239 really good fighting game? Yeah, but all of the ship around it, 1139 01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.039 it's just with its launch and the things they chose to focus on, and 1140 01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:06.360 the kind of like broken promises they've had along the way, and the issues 1141 01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:11.400 they've had that have since been that were solved in other lesser fighting games over 1142 01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:15.719 the years that they didn't address year like that, Capcom has come out and 1143 01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:17.199 said like, hey, we've got this great idea for going forward. We're 1144 01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.840 thinking about finishing games before we shipped like it was it was, it was 1145 01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:27.440 practical. It was almost literally like we're gonna release stuff, we might miss 1146 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.320 some dates and do some other stuff. And even with this booky delay, 1147 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.280 there was like this this like air of like we're committed to getting this right, 1148 01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:38.119 so we're pushing it back. Oh thank god because we got a booky 1149 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:43.000 good. Uh. And then that seemed like at the corporate level there was 1150 01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:47.079 even an element of like Capcom's gonna focus on finish on polishing up games before 1151 01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:50.360 we ship them on account of Street Fight or five is in the fucking tank 1152 01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:55.320 Man. Is the store live yet? No? So all that fight money 1153 01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:58.360 sat Yeah, you can spend the fight money. The real money store is 1154 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:00.039 not available, okay, So you can use the money for what skins and 1155 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:04.639 things skins okay yeah? Uh? And and titles and profiles and stuff. 1156 01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:11.039 And in a stage Giles stage is seventy thousand fight moneis or certain amount real 1157 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.519 money that you can't do yet. No, there's no real money equivalent for 1158 01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:15.880 that. You real money buys the characters, okay, which are not on 1159 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.680 sale yet, so you have to so so they're free for everybody right now? 1160 01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:25.399 Still yes? Uh? And and or you know you buy the season 1161 01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:27.840 past and you will have them, so they will presume when the shop launches, 1162 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.840 they will eventually take those characters away from people and say, hey, 1163 01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:34.560 please buy Guile. Wait, so they're actually going to take them away as 1164 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:38.840 opposed, so you've already downloaded them, you won't be able to access because 1165 01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:41.760 it's a multiplayer fighting game. You would have had to have downloaded any way 1166 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:45.319 to stay in sync with other players, right, So there's no consarn. 1167 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:46.840 Yeah, it's part of an update. Files in the game. They just 1168 01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:50.640 push like pretty big patches. Yeah, it just becomes can you select Guile 1169 01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:56.239 or not? Is really the thing there, which which for that style of 1170 01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:58.640 game, is absolutely the way you have to do it. Yeah. But 1171 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:01.439 the notion that because they couldn't get their ship together to launch the store, 1172 01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:05.439 that they made them free for a good long time, multiple months now, 1173 01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:11.840 multiple months, and that eventually Alex and Guile and maybe a Bookie will then 1174 01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.560 get pulled away from everyone as a result of Now now we're we have finally 1175 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:19.239 gotten it together to where you can buy these characters. So congratulations, we 1176 01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:21.800 finally set it up so you can give us money. That said, if 1177 01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:26.079 you are, if you are, if you care about those characters so much 1178 01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:28.640 that when they finally do yank them out of the game, you are bummed 1179 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:31.199 out. You are probably a candidate for the season pass. Anyway, Yeah, 1180 01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:38.000 that just all seems very ill considered. You know, Street Fight or 1181 01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:44.520 five has problems. Yeah, yeah, and very few of those problems have 1182 01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.000 to do with the way the actual fighting is in that game. It's all 1183 01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:50.119 like, well, we didn't think about Rage quitting before we shipped this game. 1184 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.720 It's like, you, what the fuck? It's twenty sixteen. How 1185 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:57.399 the fuck did you not? Like I get it, like your cap you 1186 01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:00.199 know, your your Capcom and Capcom is maybe kind of a weird spot in 1187 01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:04.640 a few different places. Not every game can be Monster Hunter, but fucking 1188 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:11.520 come on. Yeah uh yeah. So anyway, Dead Rising four seems like 1189 01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:15.039 a good move. And I my guess is that that Microsoft is picking up 1190 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:18.399 the tab on a lot of it. So I've got so this this initially 1191 01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:21.439 leaked out of a site could of this gin Gaming, but KA Talk. 1192 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.239 We ran a story about it and and both corroborated some of the stuff they 1193 01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:28.720 said and also added some details of their own. And they say they have 1194 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.960 heard this will be at the Xbox Press conference. Makes sense. Also set 1195 01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:36.439 in Willamette, Colorado scene of the first seame, first game, and the 1196 01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:42.399 screenshot that got out is Frank West. All right, so well, I've 1197 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:45.760 had the part. Probably Also, it's like Frank West in the snow with 1198 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:50.640 the camera. It's it's basically basically the narrative so far. Is this maybe 1199 01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:56.439 some kind of reimagining reboot type thing the first game? Great? And if 1200 01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.239 you think about how many things have changed since the release of the first Dead 1201 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:03.520 Rising, I mean, a modern day reboot of Dead Rising in a city 1202 01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:11.159 where presumably weed is legal, is a very very different game. Frank West 1203 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:15.880 just getting roasted off. No one is leaving because there are zombies, because 1204 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.279 they have been zombies for years. It's a shopping mall. That's like it's 1205 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:24.039 it's one Zoomies and a whole bunch of dispensaries. That's it. Citi's a 1206 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:27.720 mile high, you know what I'm saying. No, I'm not not sure 1207 01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:32.239 what you Please go into the greater details. Zomies they sell t shirts and 1208 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.640 trucks for skateboards. Is that like, okay? Is that like a Spencer's 1209 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:39.720 No, no, no, it's it's like it's like it's like attillies. 1210 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:45.319 It's the Blink. Okay, yeah, okay, all right, it's pop 1211 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.880 punk the mall store. Okay, this sounds very West Coast hot topic, 1212 01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.680 right, No, what's that? Sorry? Is that goth? Yes, 1213 01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:56.880 like mall goth? Like hot Top. You go to hot topic if you 1214 01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:02.119 want to buy ICP shirts, okay, or or five nights at Freddy's backpack 1215 01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:06.960 Hangers, or like a reproduced Joy Division shirt, or a zillion different fucking 1216 01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:13.000 Funco pops. Oh those fucking things, those fucking if you want to decimate 1217 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:16.520 some fucking Funco pops, that you want to a wall full of bullshit Funco 1218 01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:20.840 pops. Frank West needs to go into the hop topic and go, oh 1219 01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:25.920 look they got an undertaker Funko Pop. Oh wait, no, here's iron 1220 01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:29.359 Man. Dude. If you can crack a zombie skull with an undertaker Funko 1221 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:30.840 Pop, that game is gonna be all right. That game's gonna be all 1222 01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:34.840 right, Like it should be representative of real malls in that all the stores 1223 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:40.800 should be closed. The mall is the Zombie and Dead Rising four. There's 1224 01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:44.600 actually a whole segment, not to get off told of me that there's actually 1225 01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.159 an entire segment in Knight in Woods where you just go hang around a mall 1226 01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:48.920 that has been all but abandoned. That's great, Like I abandoned malls, 1227 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:51.720 so I I well, we talked about it at one point. But I 1228 01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:56.279 spent some time in central California and not that long ago, and I was 1229 01:12:56.359 --> 01:13:00.159 in the Clovis Fresno area. There used to be some big, good at 1230 01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:04.119 malls in central California. I was at this big, like recently built looking 1231 01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:09.199 mall where had this beautiful outdoor fountain. Oh wow, you know, just 1232 01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:13.720 just big wide walkways and like a really great movie theater at the end of 1233 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:15.880 it, all this other stuff. And it was a fucking ghost town. 1234 01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:18.560 Like half the stores were empty. And there was one store in there that 1235 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:23.680 seemed to sell anime and fucking swords and knives and they had a ton of 1236 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:27.680 fucking knives and nr A shirts and anime. And I was like, man, 1237 01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:31.680 fucking Fresno has gotta be a fucking trip. And then I watched hardcore 1238 01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:36.399 Henry there just to fucking like top off the fucking like just a fucking really 1239 01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:41.600 ratchet up the tension. Best place for it? Uh, It's really no 1240 01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:44.279 better place. And I asked the lady at the girl working in the movie 1241 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:45.960 theater. I was like, can I ask you something? Is this a 1242 01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.359 mall new? And she knew immediately what I was about to follow up, 1243 01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:50.640 but she just started nod her head and going, no, it's not. 1244 01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:56.439 It's just failed out like great, okay, good's no because it's so it's 1245 01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:00.279 empty, but also looks brand new because there's no foot traffic. Yeah, 1246 01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.920 zero nothing. It was it's it was beautiful. I had a great time 1247 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:08.039 at that fucking basically abandoned malls. That's it's a like new mall. Yeah, 1248 01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:11.119 that's gonna become the new like urban spelunking at some point. It's just 1249 01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:15.399 millions and millions of abandoned malls, like there's are there are a bunch of 1250 01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.239 great like photo shoots of people going out to abandoned malls and just taking pictures 1251 01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:19.600 and God and stuff. That's why I'm like, I get my life to 1252 01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:23.640 that. Let's go out to Fashion Island, fucking break in and then do 1253 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:28.279 whatever. I saw a video of people riding motorcycles into the abandoned Pontiac Silver 1254 01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:32.319 Dome and he's riding around on the fields. Amazing. Yeah, all the 1255 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:35.359 seats are like torn up and everything was Yeah, that's all that. Yeah, 1256 01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:39.439 all that stuff like people, hey, we found a fucking cruise ship 1257 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.960 that has like thirty arcade machines on it, Like what, how does that 1258 01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:45.239 happen? All right, Yeah, that did happen. It sounds like they 1259 01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:48.199 got most of those machines out. Yeah, I think a couple of thankfully 1260 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.359 they sell salvage of the machines. Yeah, I think a couple of them 1261 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:55.119 maybe had some water damage. I've tried to break into an abandoned six Flags 1262 01:14:55.159 --> 01:15:00.159 in New Orleans once and but then but the ghosts stopped there. No, 1263 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:01.920 it's after a Katrina had shut down, but like all the rides were still 1264 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:03.960 there and everything. I don't know if they've taken it down by by now, 1265 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:08.479 but yeah, it's all these abandoned roller coasters and water damage rides. 1266 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:12.600 That's amazing. Yeah, it looks really cool. It seems like a great 1267 01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:15.840 place to like get murdered by people who have taken that place as there. 1268 01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:20.079 Oh yeah, look at pictures of that. It's really fascinating. All right, 1269 01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:23.600 One more thing I'll say about Dead Rising before we move on. Like, 1270 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:28.119 I know, like some of these stories are uh speculating that it might 1271 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.279 be a remake of some sort of the first one, but you know, 1272 01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.600 A, it's numbered like the logos I got Outside Rising four B. I 1273 01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:38.199 really love the idea of Frank West, like in the chronology getting stranded in 1274 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:42.359 a mall and Willamette was zombies again, the same shit after the same guy, 1275 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:45.279 super fucking hang dog, just like, god damn it not again, 1276 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.000 like he went back to you know to ten years later. I'm gonna take 1277 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:51.960 pictures of the place where the zombie break outbreak started. Yeah, whoops. 1278 01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:56.319 I like Frank West a lot. Oh yeah, yeah as a character. 1279 01:15:56.359 --> 01:16:01.039 He's a great, shitty character, really fun. He of like of of 1280 01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:04.520 Nicholas Cage's character and snake eyes. Yes a little bit, yes, yes, 1281 01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:06.960 a little bit. Yeah, like this kind of like sort of well 1282 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.760 meaning dude, but also not kind of a dirt back, like a real 1283 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:13.960 dirt back. Yeah. Did that movie come out with Rob Wriggle as Frank 1284 01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:16.720 West. I think it's still kind of came out. I think it's still 1285 01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:19.079 in the works. It could have been direct to video. I'm going to 1286 01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:23.520 open this last might be you might be right. I probably watched that movie. 1287 01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:27.439 Wait are there two Dead Rising movies? Because I thought because Rob Riggle 1288 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:30.000 is a good cast. That is a fantastic casting. I thought I thought 1289 01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:32.439 a Dead Rising movie came out like two years ago or something that might have 1290 01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:36.159 been the Also, like Frank West wasn't the main Dead Rising watch Tower? 1291 01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:44.520 Is it out? Was released March twenty fifteen on Crackle? Is that Rob 1292 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:49.039 Wriggle. There's two things here that say Jesse metcal Jesse Metcalf. Well. 1293 01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:53.239 I think there's also Dead Rising Endgame which is coming out this year, which 1294 01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:57.279 also star There is a second Dead Rising movie coming well, so I think 1295 01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.960 he plays Nick Right, the guy from Dead Rising three. His name is 1296 01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:08.079 Chase. Oh really, passions and John Tucker must Die? Okay, Yeah, 1297 01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:11.960 he was on TNT's continuation of Dallas. Just give you an idea of 1298 01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:16.079 where they continued Dallas. Dennis Hayes, Burton, Billy Zane are the biggest 1299 01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:20.239 names in this. Okay, sure, President Palmer, that sounds about right. 1300 01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:25.319 Virginia Madsen was in the first one. Who's that It's Michael Madsen's sister. 1301 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.840 That's That's all I know about her? All right? That Rising four 1302 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:33.319 probably happening. Wait, No, Roberto is totally Frank West Rising he's not 1303 01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:38.399 the central Okay, he's just he's just in it. It's a bit part 1304 01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:44.399 uh potentially less likely, but still rumored. For Microsoft, A lot of 1305 01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.720 people are saying the words Forts the Horizon three, which is which like, 1306 01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:53.079 yeah, they're due. If we're based on the schedule that they have maintained 1307 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:56.640 up to this point that tracks. My guess would be that if it's somehow 1308 01:17:56.720 --> 01:17:59.479 not Forts a Rise in three, then it is a forts a game made 1309 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:01.239 by the Rise and team that just for some reason has a different name, 1310 01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:04.680 different name. Yeah, but sure, but that that has been talked about 1311 01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:08.760 on on some of these smaller sites, and there's a guy on Neo gaff 1312 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:13.960 claiming to have well then I know, yeah right, uh so yeah, 1313 01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:16.319 Force a Rising three, and then the State of Decay two is also has 1314 01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.960 also come up here and there, and who knows if any of that is 1315 01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:24.880 even remotely legit, but yeah, I mean so, I mean, based 1316 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.119 on what I know of State of Decay, they had always had a much 1317 01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:31.119 larger, more elaborate game in mind. That was what that studio was founded 1318 01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:33.920 on. Like they literally said, Zombie MMO was what they were going to 1319 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:36.399 make, right right, and that first game was like kind of a test 1320 01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:40.680 bed. Yeah, it was like the it was it was the Kingdoms of 1321 01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:44.560 Amelure of their of their universe. Okay, all right, but then that's 1322 01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:46.960 a lot of that stuff with They put it on Xbox one, right, 1323 01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:49.920 and it fixed a lot of the early stuff that still, but it's not 1324 01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:56.239 as ship. It was like it ran like garbage on three sixty but and 1325 01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:58.279 it came out on PC two. But it was huge like that thing. 1326 01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:00.159 Yeah, I think gost good at a point. Yeah, they added a 1327 01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.119 lot and fixed a lot, but but it was still just a kind of 1328 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:05.680 a single player open world game. Right. Still, it was there testing 1329 01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:09.399 the waters and getting some money in the coffers so they could make their bigger 1330 01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:12.199 thing. I think. So whether or not this is happening at E three 1331 01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:15.039 or at Microsoft, like it is probably happening. Yeah, that feels right. 1332 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:20.119 Okay, this morning, Uh, what seems like the entirety of Bethesda 1333 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:23.960 Ze three lineup has leaked, Okay, or at least what will be at 1334 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:29.479 the press conference there? Quake. No, it would be far too soon. 1335 01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:33.039 Yeah, yeah, it's way too soon. Unless Machine Games it's gonna 1336 01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.439 make their narrative focused quake, which that was just something well no, because 1337 01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:42.039 Wolfenstein two was on this list. Oh oh so yeah Spear of Destiny you 1338 01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.720 mean yeah, the expansion, Yeah, come soon. Now they're gonna pivot. 1339 01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:47.800 They're gonna move on to Blake Blakestone. All right, so good end 1340 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:51.039 the list here. What is this? I would love a new blake Stone, 1341 01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:56.439 but only if it was just gri It was like that grim super ed 1342 01:19:56.920 --> 01:20:02.600 tone. Yeah time, Yeah, so yeah's purported the three lineup is a 1343 01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:10.560 new Wolfenstein the Evil within two. All right, it sounds like a quote 1344 01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:15.640 completely reworked prey To, which that had been rumored forever A little while here, 1345 01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:18.439 I think that the rumor has been that Arcane Austin may be working on 1346 01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.720 that. Well, so yeah, it was that. The known quantity was 1347 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:25.159 that human Head was no longer working on that. Yeah, that's been years 1348 01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:29.359 gone, and so they had supposedly put it to another studio. Arcane is 1349 01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:31.399 the rumored thing, but nothing's ever been confirmed about that. How great would 1350 01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:34.880 it be if this this actually came to pass? But but prey To ended 1351 01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:40.359 up being this super faithful sequel to Pray, like everything you liked about that 1352 01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:42.640 prey To demo, Like, oh no, no, no, we thought 1353 01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:45.560 that was just getting away from the core of what Prey is about. Was 1354 01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:48.439 the ginty boring first person shooting. Was the demo, the one where you 1355 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.439 play as an FBI agent that was on the plane that crashes at the beginning 1356 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:56.079 of actual Prey. Yes, okay, yes, and that I had a 1357 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:59.560 working demo that went. Yeah. I saw it being played multiple times in 1358 01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:00.359 front of me. Ok. Yeah, they brought it here. We're not 1359 01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:02.399 here here, but they brought it to us. Yeah, we saw it. 1360 01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:04.199 I saw it. I saw it in Utah, I saw Dy three 1361 01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:08.439 saw it here. That game looks so fucking cool. I like to pray 1362 01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:10.920 it was years ago. I wonder at this point if a lot of other 1363 01:21:10.960 --> 01:21:13.680 games have done enough of those things at this point that it wouldn't be that 1364 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:16.159 impressive. I also wonder, if you know you're that far removed from it, 1365 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:18.600 do you even need to call that thing? Pray to right it? 1366 01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:21.600 Well, they said Tommy was going to be in it, so oh, 1367 01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:27.199 oh Commy. Yeah, you know, the rememberable character. Can't make a 1368 01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:31.920 Prey without Tommy, the iconic hero of Prey. Tommy. Pray everyone is 1369 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:36.800 playing Tommy. I didn't hate Prey, No, I thought it was pretty 1370 01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:42.439 good. I also did not hate Pray sixty. It was all right, 1371 01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:45.319 you could play Ted NuGen on that juke, but I got all I got 1372 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.439 all the achievements and Pray Yeah, even the multiplayer once. Yeah, I 1373 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.640 have the one that had the achievement for team killing. Yeah it was that 1374 01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:54.640 trok it well no, no, I think then think that might have been 1375 01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:57.560 Turrock. But they had kills for like like achievements for getting kills with every 1376 01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:00.680 weapon. And I had two copies of the game before it came out, 1377 01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:03.199 So I hooked up two three sixties and connected to myself when no one else 1378 01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:08.920 was playing, and got all those achievements and that felt good stuff, that 1379 01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:13.039 felt like a great use of time. That didn't feel at all like I 1380 01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:16.760 don't look back on that now with any sort of regret. Obviously not. 1381 01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:20.399 I played through that on the PC. That was before the sickness took me. 1382 01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:24.760 For achievements, it was a really good looking game at the time. 1383 01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:30.279 Yeah, but who knows what it'll be at this point or even story completely 1384 01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:32.720 reworked, yeah, or yeah, like like so far this list you're reading 1385 01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:35.840 me is like the most obvious, Like, here's a sequel to every game 1386 01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:40.600 they had last time, because these studios still exist, because Tango Game Works 1387 01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:43.359 still exists, so obviously they must be doing The Evil within two, even 1388 01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:46.039 though that seems like a terrible fucking idea. I think that game sold okay, 1389 01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:48.720 though, yeah, I think. I mean, if you market it 1390 01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:51.079 on the basics, well maybe you know, they were were able to say 1391 01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:54.880 like, hey, it's the guy that made Resident Evil. Yeah, and 1392 01:22:55.439 --> 01:22:59.880 you know, but like, did anyone actually like that game? Terrible? 1393 01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:01.119 It just no, it didn't grab it. I didn't utterly hate it, 1394 01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:05.920 but it was not amazing. It was like I would be more excited with 1395 01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:10.760 Wet two than I would be with The Evil. Yeah, I don't know. 1396 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:13.600 I would certainly be more excited by a Rogue Warrior two. Yes, 1397 01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:17.840 yes, motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. What's Dick marsinco up too? And 1398 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:23.039 then obviously it's not missing about his record. You know, Dishonored two has 1399 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:26.039 been talked about that. Yeah, that that feels like a known quantic that's 1400 01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:28.760 guaranteed to be there. But you know, they remember they founded a second 1401 01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:32.640 Arcane right in Austin, and like you would assume like maybe original Arcanes doing 1402 01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:35.760 Dishonored and New Arcanes doing Prey maybe if if that's how that split works, 1403 01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:39.479 yeah, I haven't makes sense. And then they got it probably got to 1404 01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:42.680 fall Out and Doom stuff on there. There's no mention of that stuff here, 1405 01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.000 and I'm sure there will be updates on Like you know, mods just 1406 01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:47.000 launched on Xbox for Fallout right, supposed to becoming a PS four soon. 1407 01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:49.479 I'm sure there'll be some talk around that. They've They also said, like 1408 01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:54.920 they when they raise the price of the Fallout Season past to fifty bucks, 1409 01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.640 they said, hey, we're gonna make more deal season we planned. So 1410 01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:00.920 they'll probably be more of that stuff. But maybe the weirdest part of this 1411 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:09.960 league sky Rim remastered. There's talk of at that. I mean, it 1412 01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:15.119 makes it makes sense because that engine runs so well on current consoles. Wouldn't 1413 01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:19.560 you why wouldn't you take advantage of that extra power? Well it's you know, 1414 01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:21.960 that was a game made for three sixty. Yeah, so maybe that 1415 01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:25.880 poorts over to the con new consoles and runs well. I mean yeah, 1416 01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:30.560 that version will run one. You just emulate it. Go. I'm trying 1417 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:32.880 to muster a response to that, and I don't really have one. I 1418 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:36.840 think the only way this makes sense is because they want to bring their mods 1419 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:41.359 stuff over to console versions of Skyri. Part of this leakue is that this 1420 01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:45.840 new console remaster would have modupport that would that makes sense. The engine tech 1421 01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:49.600 is similar enough. I guess that that work probably isn't them starting from zero? 1422 01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:54.800 Yeah yeah uh, but like, how does this make sense on the 1423 01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:58.960 PC? You know, unless they're dramatically increasing test resolution or something like that. 1424 01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:00.279 But like, you know, you want to remaster sky Him on the 1425 01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:04.199 PC? Just fucking download it and run it today? Yeah it runs pretty 1426 01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:09.720 well? Yeah yeah, and it's been very cheap. Yeah on Steam numerous 1427 01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:14.000 times and whatever. That game is super fucking popular, like crazy, crazy, 1428 01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:16.319 over the top. Way, I get why they would think, like, 1429 01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:18.920 hey, why don't we Let's just I mean, look, if I 1430 01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:21.800 can get this on more platforms, if I can get Macho Man Dragons, 1431 01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:26.479 oh yeah on the Xbox oh yeah literally? Oh yeah, still the best 1432 01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:30.560 sky Oh yeah, is what I say to that. But that seems like 1433 01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.239 the sort of thing that would not come to console, because don't they have. 1434 01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:36.039 I haven't looked at the mod stuff for Fallout, but I presume that 1435 01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:42.720 there would be someone checking a box somewhere that says this has copyrighted content and 1436 01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:45.960 it do not allow. Probably someone on the moderation and going like, nope, 1437 01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:49.680 this as porn or macho man, you cannot allow it. If you 1438 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:55.239 don't allow macho man, Dragon Mochu, man's very existence is pornographic. If 1439 01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:59.520 you think about it's very erotic. That man is sex. He's gonna punk 1440 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.960 your butt out of the world to see. How do you feel about that? 1441 01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:08.880 Pretty good? All right, good? Yeah, like you said, 1442 01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:12.520 pretty predictable sounding lineup, but also several things I would like to see. 1443 01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.359 Yeah. The only one of those that gives me pause actually is Evil within 1444 01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:16.920 two like that, It's the one thing on that list makes me think this 1445 01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:19.600 might not be real. I don't know. Maybe they went back and made 1446 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:21.840 it better. I mean, you know, but doesn't bought that studio, 1447 01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:26.199 so they so they have to be doing something. Yeah, you have to 1448 01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:30.560 wonder it does battle Cry still exists? Battle Cry Studios is still listed on 1449 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:32.800 the xmax page as existing. You know, they still have a team and 1450 01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:38.439 all that. I played that game two years ago now, And if you 1451 01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:43.960 thought that back then, the idea of a free to play multiplayer kind of 1452 01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:49.560 shootery thing seemed maybe a little crowd and like trying to enter a crowded space. 1453 01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:57.119 Yeah, like imagine that world now Consoles, PC wherever Watch, where 1454 01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:00.159 all this other stuff exists. Like it's just like what what they were just 1455 01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.760 at some point there was a point where that was in the mix of conversation 1456 01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:05.960 when we were talking about all those games, and then get like like a 1457 01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:11.119 light switch, it just exited, like I just everyone forgot about it at 1458 01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:14.560 the same time and everyone just stopped talking. The studio is literally called battle 1459 01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:17.079 christ To Yeah, like the well so they were studio is named after the 1460 01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:20.239 game where vice versa or something. It's like, what why? Okay, 1461 01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:25.479 that's always usually a good indicator of longevity. Yeah, I'm all whatever, 1462 01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:28.520 I just wonder if that thing will ever see the light of day. Yeah, 1463 01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:31.680 I want to look at see if there are any like recent updates from 1464 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:38.840 members of that team. Uh, we're here. Please send some say like 1465 01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:41.720 hey, we're still still plugging away. We can't wait to show you what 1466 01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:46.279 we're like, just any kind of signs. It's proof of life. Yeah, 1467 01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:53.039 what studio made Brink Splash Dance Slash. Are they around? Yeah? 1468 01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:56.840 They worked on Doom. Dirty Bomb is them? Yeah? They made Dirty 1469 01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:00.039 Bomb and then they contribute. I think I saw people saying they contributed to 1470 01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.079 do certain affinity contribute. I know, I know they did, but there 1471 01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:05.000 were other studios that worked on I might be wrong about that, but I 1472 01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:12.319 did see some people battle Cry Studios in Texas. Uh it was rage just 1473 01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:20.159 a ID proper, Yeah, m hmm. Nothing. I mean, there 1474 01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:26.359 is a website here. There's you know, there's a careers page. They're 1475 01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:30.079 looking for a back end services engineer, gameplay engineer, production director, senior 1476 01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:34.800 server engineer, senior graphics engineer, general application gameplay engineer, among others. 1477 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:43.800 But mhm, yeah, I don't know. There's there's there's no like updates 1478 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:47.960 section of this site to say like clothes bay to this or you know. 1479 01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:53.720 Yeah, I'm not I'm not seeing anything that looks recent. The last tweet 1480 01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:59.680 on the Battlecry official Twitter account was from July twenty fifteen. It's a battle 1481 01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:05.000 Cry nderscored devs. No, it's Battlecry Underscore game. Okay. There's also 1482 01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:09.399 a battle Cry Underscore Devs which claims to be an official Twitter account for battle 1483 01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:14.479 Cry Studios, and the banner on this July July twenty fifteen is also the 1484 01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:17.560 most recent the banner on this account literally says BETAF twenty fifteen sign up today. 1485 01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:20.640 I'm gonna put money on them not showing that game at the press conference. 1486 01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:26.359 That would that would maybe be the right move, okay, but otherwise 1487 01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:29.159 that line up soun's all right. Yeah, but if it's real, I'm 1488 01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:31.279 I'm down to see all that stuff. And then they probably have some Doom 1489 01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:34.119 DLC to talk about, because they did sell a season pass. Yeah, 1490 01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:39.720 but I think that's multiplayer stuff. Oh god. I hope that you would 1491 01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:42.159 love to see them pivot and do something different. But also I don't know 1492 01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:45.359 if I want single player DLC out of Doom. I just want another Doom. 1493 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:47.319 Maybe you're Doom too, Maybe you're right, you know, but I 1494 01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:50.560 well, it's not broken up into episodes the way that old Doom was. 1495 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:54.600 But I love the idea of like one more episode coming up from Doom, 1496 01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:57.279 you know, like just close the loop on this being a reboot of the 1497 01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:00.319 original and put out an expansion pack. I just wanted to remake of Doom 1498 01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:03.760 three that is Doom current but with some Doom three stuff in what if it's 1499 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:10.159 like Doom three is starting to happen, but then like regular Doom just mashes 1500 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.319 through it. That's a bunch. Like they want to have all these key 1501 01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:15.920 cards and machines and just like fucking terminals, But then you just punch them 1502 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:19.239 all. That's a much better outcome. The last update on the Battle Cry 1503 01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:24.640 the game website is June twenty fifteen. It is their E three recap. 1504 01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:28.880 Yeah, they showed it briefly last year. Yeah, but I'm not expecting 1505 01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:32.640 to repeat there. All right? Uh Injustice two, Yes, thanks to 1506 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:36.520 game Stop apparently. Uh well, okay, let's be honest, Stop, 1507 01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:41.199 We'll be offering a free poster with pre orders of Injustice two. Let's also 1508 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:44.640 thank ed boone here, who has basically been trolling the internet in the last 1509 01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.039 two weeks. Well, very obvious way he changed. He changed his Twitter 1510 01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:51.960 pick to Aminumeral two. He's been linking to two that could also look like 1511 01:30:53.039 --> 01:31:00.239 an eleven, So that is pretty good at Yeah, and even in this 1512 01:31:00.279 --> 01:31:02.479 morning after this game style leak happened, he there's some good stuff on its 1513 01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:08.119 Twitter feed. Then also all but confirms that yes, yes he is. 1514 01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:12.119 He is taking it in stride in a nice jovial way. Injustice too makes 1515 01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.119 the most sense. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the cycle they're on, 1516 01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:18.359 right, I mean Able Kombat one year or Mortal Kombat than Injustice, the 1517 01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:23.399 Mortal Combat than Injustice I guess right. That is as much as I was 1518 01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:28.199 holding out hope for ww E Immortals becoming a full fledged console fighting game. 1519 01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:30.560 If it's still updating them, it's such a good idea. I don't think 1520 01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:31.840 so. I think Immortal is kind of trailed off at a point, but 1521 01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:35.920 Supercard that's where the money's at. Yeah, and that was always a weird 1522 01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:40.439 thing because WB did not hold the WWB license like the whole thing was, 1523 01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:44.239 or at least not not the way that two K does. That's always a 1524 01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:48.640 strange project. I don't know. But the most exciting thing that a video 1525 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:54.119 game is done with WWB wrestlers since w w E All Stars agreed. Yeah, 1526 01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:58.079 yeah, really no details to go along with this other than hey, 1527 01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:00.880 it exists, as the poster has the Flash and I believe Superman on it, 1528 01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:03.079 Fatman. I don't know. I think it's Batman. Okay, I 1529 01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.920 could be wrong, but yeah, no, I was psyched that it had 1530 01:32:05.920 --> 01:32:10.039 the Flash on it because that was the character I liked using in the first 1531 01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:13.479 Injustice. I think that's like, if you're going to make a game with 1532 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:15.960 DC characters, like, that's one of the five you will always use. 1533 01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:18.920 His super was the one where he ran around the world and punching the face, 1534 01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:20.920 right, Yeah, that's pretty good. And it makes sense to not 1535 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:27.399 have Batman and Superman because that movie didn't exactly go super well, So leading 1536 01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:30.439 with that type of imagery and tying to that probably is not super smart. 1537 01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:35.920 I would guess they're going to try and avoid the DC Cinematic Universe stuff infecting 1538 01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:39.760 this too much. Yeah, the first one was just like straight up comic 1539 01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.520 books, like alternate universe story and yeah, yeah it was me. I 1540 01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:45.840 think that comic is still going with the Injustice comment, I want to say, 1541 01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:49.720 is still running or or or ran a lot longer than you might have 1542 01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.800 thought. You know, this is if you'd ask me, hey, what 1543 01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:56.439 do you want another realm to make next? Probably wouldn't have said this, 1544 01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:59.359 but you know, people like that first one. I also don't necessarily it 1545 01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:01.119 was well made, as it doesn't I don't necessarily want a new Mortal Kombat 1546 01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:03.479 sequel, So yeah, I don't know that I would have wanted that either. 1547 01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:05.359 I don't Actually, I don't know what. I would have wanted it 1548 01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:10.640 like MK X a lot, but I think it's time. It makes sense 1549 01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:12.640 for them to take up there. There will be a time when I want 1550 01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:15.920 Mortal Kombat eleven, but that time is twenty nineteen, when Mortal Kombat eleven 1551 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:21.279 will be released in about April. Yeah, uh, set your watch to 1552 01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:28.600 it, so so look forward to that. Uh yeah, but it would 1553 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:30.800 be too soon to do a straight up MK fighting game right now. I 1554 01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:33.600 would have loved to have seen even though they didn't necessarily make the game like 1555 01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:36.800 another Shallon Monk style game. Yes, would have been would have been cool 1556 01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:39.800 to see. Yeah, that seems like if they're gonna do that, it 1557 01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:42.960 seems like something they would form out. Maybe maybe rock Steady. Yeah, 1558 01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:46.039 like oversight a rock Steady make a Mortal Kombat action game, and you think 1559 01:33:46.039 --> 01:33:50.319 about it, how much they fleshed out, like the fiction of that universe 1560 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:54.199 in the last two games. Like that stuff I think would play well. 1561 01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:58.039 Okaybat Technologies check it out. Sub Zero is a ninja. We're willing to 1562 01:33:58.119 --> 01:34:00.960 follow him to his temple. Love this and see how a ninja lives Okay, 1563 01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:06.199 practices one day? Can I draw walls around him and didn't have him 1564 01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:12.079 not have any bathrooms? Can you open a restaurant? Yep, Ninja Burger? 1565 01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:16.199 Uh all right, so there's that Injustice too. Yeah, we'll come 1566 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.880 out. That's a video game. What about the Grid? It'll be three 1567 01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:23.239 but I'm sorry, Yeah, that was Yes, the idea of the Grid 1568 01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:28.119 too was pretty funny when he changed that picture. Uh, Watchdogs too, 1569 01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:32.920 Yeah, as of roughly this time tomorrow or mid day tomorrow, arguably the 1570 01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:41.119 worst kept secret ongoing form like a long time, and like didn't they send 1571 01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:45.920 promotional items the YouTubers or something recently Tube influencers were receiving Watchdogs. I'm just 1572 01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:48.199 saying, like the notions last week. Yeah, the notion of Watchdogs two 1573 01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:53.039 has been more or less known since even before Watchdogs when actually came out. 1574 01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:54.960 So it was like, you know, they made all that noise about like 1575 01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:58.680 that's the highest pre ordered new ip in history. Yeah, of course they 1576 01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:00.760 we're gonna make another Watchdogs even the first. And this is filling the Assassin's 1577 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:04.880 Creed gap, which I that's actually I do like that idea of like we've 1578 01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:08.720 got this other thing that can that's a great idea too, and we need 1579 01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:11.199 to have Assassin's Creed take a break. Do you think they need to have 1580 01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:15.239 hopefully that game is good this time. Do you think this becomes an ongoing 1581 01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:21.399 like leap Frog cycle it or how well watch and also how the next Assassin's 1582 01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:25.279 Creed does In the wake of all that, they said, Watchdogs Too is 1583 01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:27.680 going to be this year. I mean you could assume it is. That 1584 01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:30.000 seems to be the implication. I think the date has leaked. I think 1585 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:32.600 it's November November, but especially without an Assassin's Creed this year, and with 1586 01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:38.039 the VINDI closing in like they need they need, they need to shore up 1587 01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:41.199 they yeah, they need money coming in to keep they need a poison pill 1588 01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:45.840 defense. And I don't know, how do you stop violent takeovers hostile takeover? 1589 01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.439 I don't I don't know if you do poison pill poison pill. Uh 1590 01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:51.479 yeah, So yeah, they they straight up said, hey, we're gonna 1591 01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:56.560 do a stream with some stuff about Watchdogs Too, So watch that tomorrow and 1592 01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:59.920 it's supposedly San Francisco and all the new protagonist stuff that leaked out a while 1593 01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:03.800 ago is apparently spot on. Yeah. Supposedly a new protagonist named Marcus because 1594 01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:09.159 people fucking hated the guy from the first game, he was bad. But 1595 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:14.479 will the new character where the iconic watch Dogs hat he might have his own 1596 01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:18.079 iconic Watchdogs according according to the motion capture actor, yes all right and the 1597 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:23.199 screenshot of this character that he instagramed like a month ago. Will there be 1598 01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:29.119 a new protagonist cause player in the audience of the UBISAW conference? Boy? 1599 01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:32.760 Oh yeah? Or have they just instructed i Issia Tyler not to talk to 1600 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:38.760 people in the audience this year? M mister Kevin, it's back? No 1601 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:44.359 please? No girl? Girl? Would yeah? Yeah, yeah. I 1602 01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:48.920 did not especially like Watchdogs. Yeah, it had there, but there are 1603 01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:51.800 good ideas at the core of it. It had a glimmer of hope. 1604 01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:57.640 Yet yeah yeah, So making another one, I I would like to see 1605 01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:00.039 them get it right. You know, well maybe this is the maybe this 1606 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:02.479 is the Assassin Street two of this franchise. You know, it's like, 1607 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:04.800 hey, we made a game and it had cool ideas, but it didn't 1608 01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:09.039 really get there. But hey, we'd fix it and now it's awesome. 1609 01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:12.399 That'd be great to see like all these really stuff for Watchdogs. Like the 1610 01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:15.199 first time I sat down and the first time I held a Dual Shock four 1611 01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:21.680 was to play Watchdogs on a PC. Yeah, and it seemed like potentially 1612 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:25.119 really cool back then, and then when it came out and it was like, 1613 01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:28.520 oh, all these side tasks are really drab and like the story is 1614 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:30.239 just pretty rough. Yeah, you know, just at some point it just 1615 01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:34.760 all it all fell apart. Yep. Uh, let's see. It's not 1616 01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:39.640 really an announcement or a leak, but Horizon zero Down has been pushed to 1617 01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:43.560 next year February to be exact, did it? I never had a confirmed 1618 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:45.720 date though, like it had a year target, I think, but I 1619 01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:48.039 don't think it actually had like a it's coming out on this date. No. 1620 01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:51.880 Actually, now that I look at this, the managing director of Guerrilla 1621 01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:57.800 Games straight up posted a blog saying like it wasn't an easy choice to make 1622 01:37:58.680 --> 01:38:00.199 and so this is actually a delay. Ok. They robot dinosaur game, 1623 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.680 right? Yes, yes, yes, I saw it was a super early 1624 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:08.439 demo that thing last year. But it looks super least evocative title of what 1625 01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:12.800 that game actually, Yeah, that's not a great I mean robot descriptive like 1626 01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:16.680 robot dinosaur att Yeah like that, maybe that's not the title you go with 1627 01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.239 either. But oh it's weird though, because it's not just dinosaurs. It's 1628 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:23.479 like robot elk. Yeah, Like there's just all the animals in that game 1629 01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:27.520 or robots and it's matrix. Aren't you. I don't know, but you 1630 01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:31.159 were a robot the whole time of the Weird Tech demo kind of showing the 1631 01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:34.680 thing had last year. I was fascinated by here's here's my here's my theory. 1632 01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:39.359 Well, at the end of that game, find out you're actually just 1633 01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:43.600 an animatronic in a giant theme park. That's why all the robots and the 1634 01:38:43.720 --> 01:38:46.760 and the monsters are robots. Like that's yeah, this last world and then 1635 01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:50.199 you find out you're a robot too. Okay, their homies came around and 1636 01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:54.199 turned you into an animatron, and then they zoom back and you're all in 1637 01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:58.119 a snow globe. All right, welcome to Hell, Motherfucker's and Clarence Williams 1638 01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:06.000 the third last Uh you close the portal to Hell. Uh Destiny DL see 1639 01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:10.640 anybody? I mean, I think it's been floating around for a bit. 1640 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:15.079 Yeah, they're gonna announce that on Thursday. Okay, this Week of Iron. 1641 01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:16.479 Okay, I kept calling her Hearts of Iron earlier for some reason. 1642 01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:19.520 It's a different game though, just came out of that would be really weird. 1643 01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:23.880 Now that Rise of Iron. Okay, yeah, I had no idea 1644 01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:27.880 what that would you think about the term iron and in regards to Destiny, 1645 01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:32.199 like the was it the Iron? Yeah? The least favorite thing they've well 1646 01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:36.199 no known that's the racing is actually worse? Yes, whatever, Man, 1647 01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:41.000 The Racing was one of Dan Teasdale's top ten games of that year. That's 1648 01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:45.880 right. Well, you know they Lord Saladin is his name, Master of 1649 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:49.239 the Master of the Salad iron banner. If you know, if they find 1650 01:39:49.279 --> 01:39:53.319 a way to work like that character in some story based stuff, then I'd 1651 01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:56.199 be okay with it. Sure it can't. Surely it cannot just be an 1652 01:39:56.239 --> 01:40:00.319 expansion of multiplayer content. Boy, what if it was wow? Wow, 1653 01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:02.159 Wow, that'd be a bummer. That is not what I want. But 1654 01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:05.560 we'll find out on Thursday at ten am Pacific because they were going to stream 1655 01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:12.399 what that is. Okay, so be there or just find out about it 1656 01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:15.920 later, he knows, or just be a you know, be interested in 1657 01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:19.279 the Destiny that will come out next year. That will probably be the real 1658 01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:21.520 thing you want. Yes, right, yeah, I mean the reports are 1659 01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:26.319 that this thing is a stop gap that got created because Destined two slipped out 1660 01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:30.600 of this year. I feel like everything they've done since this eight months before 1661 01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:34.359 Destiny shipped, has been a stop gap to do before they can get real 1662 01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:40.199 Destiny. Sure, that's not to say that all of it is low in 1663 01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:43.000 quality or anything like that, but man, this game seems like it has 1664 01:40:43.039 --> 01:40:46.279 been people running away from a fire for two years. Yep, one year, 1665 01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:53.560 two years September right, yes, yes, two years September. God, 1666 01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:57.159 it feels like way longer than that. We've been living with Destiny for 1667 01:40:57.239 --> 01:41:00.520 a long time. My life with Destiny has been long in our well, 1668 01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:02.359 we're in luck. We're at the end of the ten years of Destiny. 1669 01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:04.920 How to to Treat You, how to Go? We're done with that. 1670 01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:09.840 Now we're moving on. Everyone's just playing the Division. Now that's not even 1671 01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:14.199 the true anymore. No, it's not. They put out another Encouragion version 1672 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:15.840 was second or the third? There a second one? Okay, Yeah, 1673 01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:19.479 I have abandoned that game wholesale. I want to keep getting back to it, 1674 01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:25.319 but every change they make just seems like they're focusing more on the stuff 1675 01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:28.520 that I don't necessarily want to do. I would like more real content and 1676 01:41:28.920 --> 01:41:33.199 maybe the maybe the proper paid DLC will be more interesting. But yeah, 1677 01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:39.800 okay, I've got a lot of Overwatch I'm not playing. Also, you 1678 01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:45.479 know, like if I'm gonna not play a game now totally. Remember when 1679 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:49.239 Nintendo said that they were only bringing Zelda the three. You promised me you 1680 01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:57.680 were going to play Zelda Dead Last Wait what I lied? Oh? We 1681 01:41:58.159 --> 01:42:01.920 lied, I guess live They just yeah, they've They put out a statement 1682 01:42:02.039 --> 01:42:05.319 saying that they are going to expand their E three streaming plans a little bit. 1683 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:09.960 Yes, it sounds like I think this is just the Treehouse stream. 1684 01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:12.720 I don't think. I don't think this affects with the content of their booth, 1685 01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:15.079 which as far as I know is still just a bunch of Zelda kidus. 1686 01:42:16.039 --> 01:42:19.279 But they have other games on the docket not shipped. It makes sense 1687 01:42:19.319 --> 01:42:24.319 to show them in some capacity. Metroid Prime, Federation whatever, Federation Force, 1688 01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:28.319 Full Day, it's full day of streaming, though this actually not on 1689 01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:30.960 that list. This list does not even mention that game. Yeah, yeah, 1690 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:33.920 so this will be the Treehouse stream that starts at ten am on Tuesday 1691 01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:36.840 of the show, which, so I guess the Zelda stuff is at nine 1692 01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:41.239 right, their traditional like direct slot My understanding is at yeah, there's going 1693 01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:43.520 to be an hour of Zelda, and then this Treehouse stream will kick in, 1694 01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:48.399 uh and now will include quote upcoming releases for the EU and three DS, 1695 01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:54.359 including Monster Hunter Generations, Dragon Quest, seven, Fragments of the Forgotten 1696 01:42:54.399 --> 01:43:00.800 Past, neither of which are Nintendo games, and Tokyo Mirage sessions. How 1697 01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:04.720 do I read this hashtag? Fe that's that's the Shinmagami tense A slash Fire, 1698 01:43:05.319 --> 01:43:10.439 Yes right, yes, mash up coming from both into No and Atlas. 1699 01:43:11.520 --> 01:43:17.600 Is that persona shin mcgamy tens Well, Persona is a descendant of that 1700 01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:21.079 French Yes, okay, so that came first make it's s SMT. Yeah, 1701 01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:25.680 it has been around for like fucking first Devil Devil Summitter and all that 1702 01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:31.960 stuff waynetes like PC ninety eight games, way way before Persona existed. How 1703 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.239 that mashes up with fire embol and I don't know, but I don't care 1704 01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:38.720 about those games I heard of. That game is basically just like a Giant 1705 01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:43.199 and J Pop simulator. Okay, it's all J Pop is heavily influenced somewhere 1706 01:43:43.279 --> 01:43:45.920 in that game. Oh wait, This Austin story absolutely says that yeah, 1707 01:43:46.279 --> 01:43:50.039 as a JRPG set in modern times and with a real focus on youth culture, 1708 01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:55.720 creativity and J pop. All right, I'm back, yeah, now 1709 01:43:55.800 --> 01:43:59.199 I care. Uh, let me throw a little of that K pop in 1710 01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:00.880 there too, And now we're talking yeah, and you know the fire Alim 1711 01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:04.840 gives them some fucking yeah, you know, kind of ask some offspring to 1712 01:44:04.920 --> 01:44:09.119 make some more J pop? Can I kind of touch the faces? I 1713 01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:13.920 hope? So not not not yet confirmed. No mention of those phone games 1714 01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:16.680 right the end of the Animal the Animal Crossing and fire Elm the next two 1715 01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:19.880 phone releases, which I'm super curious about, Like, I wonder how far 1716 01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:25.960 along those are part of the Sun and Moon that is there? That was 1717 01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:28.600 on there now I think you're yes, you're right, You're right. Pokemon 1718 01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:30.720 was on the Pokemon Son the Moon will be part of the string. I 1719 01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:32.199 was gonna say, like the notion that they would have that game in the 1720 01:44:32.239 --> 01:44:35.319 works and not use any of this time to like remind people of like that 1721 01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:40.600 that's the only game of that list that like feels like it could have been 1722 01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:44.960 on the show floor next to Sure Zelda. Sure, I understand why they 1723 01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:46.920 didn't, because you know, whatever you got Zeldas. Yeah, I mean 1724 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:50.960 I remain intensely interested in seeing Zelda, Like, yeah, I think that's 1725 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:54.640 enough. Yeah, because it's been under wraps for so long and push back 1726 01:44:54.640 --> 01:44:58.399 and blah blah blah. But part of me fucking hates myself for saying this, 1727 01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:00.399 But I feel like those phone games are be the most interesting thing they 1728 01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:03.760 have going. Like if it's like just a real game, yeah, that's 1729 01:45:03.800 --> 01:45:06.359 what it is, Like me Tomo was just a big whatever. You know, 1730 01:45:06.600 --> 01:45:10.760 it's an unknown quantity at this point. What those Nintendo games on mobile 1731 01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:13.800 are gonna look? Like? What if that's a real Animal Crossing or something 1732 01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:15.479 close to it? That'd be great? Such a good idea because Happy Home 1733 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:18.840 Designer, Sure shit wasn't There was a mebo festival, the idea that of 1734 01:45:19.039 --> 01:45:23.560 like you could just have people visit each other's towns while you were walking near 1735 01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:27.079 them, right, like yeah, pass type stuff, Like what if you 1736 01:45:27.079 --> 01:45:30.520 could play Animal Crossing on the thing that's always in your pocket? Yeah, 1737 01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:31.840 with the day night cycle and all that. Yeah, it seems like it 1738 01:45:31.880 --> 01:45:34.680 seems like a layup. I mean, did they They said it's free to 1739 01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:38.560 play, though, right, I think one would assume, Yeah, so 1740 01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:41.680 you're buying and making phone games. So you know, so you're giving actual 1741 01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:44.319 money to Tom Tom knuck Now, I mean that does feel like the next 1742 01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:49.760 I'm out, I'm out, he's shaking you down for years for fake bells. 1743 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:53.760 Now, it's real, the eight hundred the eight hundred bells package is 1744 01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:56.520 the best value. Yeah, hey, while you're asleep by a upgraded their 1745 01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:58.800 house and now in ned ten real dollars, I'm already took it out of 1746 01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:01.720 your iTunes. Sorry, don't know. This is this is like Tom zok 1747 01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:05.279 use the fucking rabbit. Will the rabbit turn out to work for Tom Nook 1748 01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:08.399 and you'll show up and be like, hey, buddy, like from all 1749 01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:12.560 the back, stuffy man. What about that the rest stick you gotta help 1750 01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:15.520 me out? You mean rusty? Yeah, then the Brest baseball dog. 1751 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:19.079 I mean, they have yet to make that connection as to whether he exists 1752 01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:23.319 in the Animal Crossing universe, but that said, he feels like he would 1753 01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:26.239 totally fit it. I feel like those guys are just fucking agents of Tom 1754 01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:30.119 Nook that are just like working different shakedown techniques in different towns. That there's 1755 01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:32.119 a whole pyramid scheme and all of it fucking rolls up to nook. What 1756 01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:34.800 about Timmy and Tommy are they like in training to do that there? I 1757 01:46:34.840 --> 01:46:36.800 mean, you know, they're part of the They're part of the empire. 1758 01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:42.039 Okay, Yeah, they're the errors. They're the Shane and Stephanie of the 1759 01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:44.600 tomb. Okay, yeah, if that helps you, Yeah it does. 1760 01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:47.800 Okay. I hope that stuff's there. Yeah, I mean too. I 1761 01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:50.600 data will be, but at least there will be some other stuff on that 1762 01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:57.079 stream besides twelve hours of Zelda or whatever it was going to be. I 1763 01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.520 think that might be it for E three related news that I'm looking now to 1764 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:04.560 see if anything has broken the time, like keeping my eye on Twitter just 1765 01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:09.520 in case anything else leaks, as we've been in here. But that seems 1766 01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:15.159 like that's it. We mentioned this Vivendi hostile to takeover of Ubisoft stuff. 1767 01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:18.520 I don't know how well equipped from a business perspective we are to speak to 1768 01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:24.039 this stuff, not necessarily, but the Vivendi has fully completed a hostile takeover 1769 01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:28.920 of game Aloft. Yeah, also run by a brother of Yes, Yes, 1770 01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:33.079 the brother of eve Gmo runs game Aloft or did it was founded by 1771 01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:36.359 both of them? I believe, Yeah, And that's so he's out. 1772 01:47:38.479 --> 01:47:40.840 Is that the case? Yeah, the brother has stepped down. Okay, 1773 01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.640 Uh, I mean this is just effectively just a company coming in and buying 1774 01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:47.119 up all the shares, right, yes, well at least it's enough to 1775 01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:50.880 have a majority ownership. Yeah yeah, we kind of kind of have control 1776 01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:55.680 of the board or whatever. Yes, Okay, it sounds like they want 1777 01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:58.079 you be soft. Yeah, and they've been wanting movies off for a while. 1778 01:47:58.199 --> 01:48:00.359 Would be the logical next move. I remember Vivendi was a publisher, 1779 01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.439 right, yeah, dude, not even that, Like I remember, like 1780 01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:05.600 since we've been doing these game tapes and stuff, you go back and see 1781 01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:09.880 like Universal games on stuff yep. Right, and then it became the Vendi 1782 01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:12.880 Universal, Like there's a there was a huge legacy of game made, a 1783 01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:15.720 lot of stuff put out by that company. Uh, and then they totally 1784 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:18.840 got out of Game of Sierra. They were right right? What happened to 1785 01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:25.760 that nest? Half life? The New Sierra just exists as an AI is 1786 01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:28.680 an pumplishing label of activisions. What kind they put out with that name? 1787 01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:31.239 That King Geometry Wars and Kings Quest which continues to come out. Okay, 1788 01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:34.239 I've been meaning to play episode three of kings Quest that came out a couple 1789 01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:38.479 of weeks ago. I'm gonna say it right here. I bought a finally 1790 01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:41.079 bought an external drive for my Xbox. I finally started getting a bunch of 1791 01:48:41.119 --> 01:48:44.600 that backwork battle stuff. Geometry Wars tell the best Xbox You're sixty game? 1792 01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:47.880 Yes, yes, I will the best. I will go with you on 1793 01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:54.000 that journey the best. I think you're right. I spent hours right before 1794 01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:57.479 I flew out here just playing Wars. Are you saying it's a game of 1795 01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:00.359 the generation? Yes, it is. It is the game of that I 1796 01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:02.319 could, I could, maybe almost actually get behind the XBLA game. No, 1797 01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:08.920 no, no, are you read Dead versus Yeah? Yeah, Geometry 1798 01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:12.640 Wars wins. It is the purest game of that generation. I'll give you 1799 01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:15.640 that. It is perfect. Head and shoulders above Red Dead. Come on, 1800 01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:20.279 tell me crazy like Jeff. The path you are walking the Red Dead 1801 01:49:20.439 --> 01:49:23.680 is bad path. I can't walk down that with you. I'm sorry, 1802 01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:26.560 we are on one path or not. I can't do it. But that 1803 01:49:26.680 --> 01:49:31.319 said, my allegiance, I wanted only knock against Geometry Wars. And this 1804 01:49:31.399 --> 01:49:34.199 really only became a problem like years after the fact, when I kept coming 1805 01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:36.279 back to it is just how long it takes for the game to get going. 1806 01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:40.199 Oh, like the real game, every time you will just every dangerous 1807 01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:42.600 every time you do it run. Yeah, it's like a good what ninety 1808 01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:45.520 seconds or two minutes? I need I need more things get interesting. But 1809 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:47.920 if you're playing for an hour straight, you are warm. No. But 1810 01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:51.840 that's the thing is that if once you've dealed into the chaos of the later 1811 01:49:53.039 --> 01:49:56.199 game, I need that little bit of cool down before I jump back in, 1812 01:49:56.399 --> 01:49:59.159 right, I could, I could see that. I just kind of 1813 01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:02.520 want to go play. We should, Yeah, I don't. I don't 1814 01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:05.479 really know what else to say about this. This game offt stuff other than 1815 01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:09.560 that seems pretty ominous for the future of Ubisoft. It is. It's weird. 1816 01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:12.479 I mean, you're seeing them kind of signaling like, hey, we 1817 01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:15.199 don't want this to happen, like we are not happy this is taking place, 1818 01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:18.199 and trying to find ways to get around this. Obviously Gameloft was not 1819 01:50:18.319 --> 01:50:21.039 able to do that. But you know, I mean I look at here. 1820 01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:25.520 The thing is, we don't know really what the Vendi's aims are. 1821 01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:29.279 Yeah, like we don't know what it is they want out of owning Ubisoft, 1822 01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:30.840 we don't know like what they want to change, if anything, or 1823 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:34.039 if they just want to make some money off this damn thing. Presumably. 1824 01:50:34.039 --> 01:50:36.920 I mean, they're just a gigantic conglomerate with their fingers and like every pie 1825 01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:40.640 imaginable, right. Yeah, so and then you know, being a French 1826 01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:45.039 company going after Ubisoft kind of makes a certain amount of sense. But you 1827 01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:46.760 know, until we know more about what their aims are and like what would 1828 01:50:46.800 --> 01:50:51.359 actually functionally change in that leadership and that you know that company's direction, Like, 1829 01:50:51.399 --> 01:50:54.600 it's hard to know other than to say, well, this seems bad. 1830 01:50:56.279 --> 01:51:00.720 Yeah, that sounds all right. Yeah, it's hard to know. 1831 01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:05.399 I'll buy that argument. Yeah, I ain't no business guy, but that 1832 01:51:05.479 --> 01:51:11.039 sounds plausible. Yeah, it's I'm not sitting here thinking that, like Ubisoft 1833 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:14.920 is being run so perfectly that nothing could improve or change. So it's like 1834 01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:16.239 it's hard, it's hard to even know if that's necessarily good or a bad. 1835 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:18.960 Maybe they just really want to play beyond Good and Evil two. Yeah, 1836 01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:23.560 and they're just pissed that it's taken. That's probably exactly it. Yeah, 1837 01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:30.359 Uh, did you guys see this good old games and Steam business now 1838 01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:33.680 It's crazy. What's happening. I'm trying to I'm scanning this story because I 1839 01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:36.760 feel like they had a name for it. I want to I could have 1840 01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:40.000 sworn they were calling it like Steam Connect or something like that. I don't 1841 01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:45.319 see that phrase in here. Good old Steam Gog now lets you one time 1842 01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:49.439 per account, link a Steam account to your Dog account and then currently the 1843 01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:56.439 list is a little slim, but you get games on this eligible list that 1844 01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:00.760 you own on Steam in your Gog library, like DRM free versions of them. 1845 01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:02.880 So ye did this with Origin? Did they? Yeah? Really it 1846 01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:05.960 was not. You did not connect up your Steam account, but you a 1847 01:52:08.399 --> 01:52:12.239 CD keys right that you could redeem those keys again on your Origin account, 1848 01:52:12.279 --> 01:52:15.279 right and they would transfer over right. So this is kind of similar, 1849 01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:17.279 except that it's just a one time like you. They're they're using Steam API. 1850 01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:21.399 You just punch in your log in, uh, and you get games 1851 01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:28.920 such as Yes, The Witness, FTL, Saints Row two, Shadow Run 1852 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:33.199 Returns, The Witcher Enhanced Edition, Braid. Just kind of scanning the list 1853 01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:38.239 here, two different Breech and Clear games, Broken Sword, Mountain Blade, 1854 01:52:39.039 --> 01:52:42.159 Sherlock Holmes. But I wonder if this is something that as they do the 1855 01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:45.800 deals with different publishers. If that list will grow a time and then you 1856 01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:48.399 would come in because you use the you said one time deal, but I 1857 01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:53.359 imagine it's you only link one Steam account if six months later they add another 1858 01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:55.399 game to the list and you have to own it on Steam. Yeah, 1859 01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:57.760 what I meant is you can't remove that Steam account link a different when you 1860 01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:00.119 get you get one shot to link a Steam count to a gag account. 1861 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:03.640 So don't miss uh zeno naots you come to Gog, you best not missing. 1862 01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:08.680 That's true. Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament Game of the Year both on 1863 01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:15.319 this list. Sure vvvvv that's the game. Yeah six six Uh yeah, 1864 01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:17.039 it's it's not not a lot of games yet, but it seems like a 1865 01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:19.720 nice kind of feel good move, right. It's a foundation, Yeah, 1866 01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:24.800 because because gog is a pretty solid service from from what I've seen of it. 1867 01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:28.239 Yeah, from what I've used. Installed the Gog Galaxy, did you, 1868 01:53:28.479 --> 01:53:30.640 and then realized I didn't own any game. I don't have a Galaxy 1869 01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:32.800 God, I don't own any games and Gogs. I was just like, 1870 01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:35.279 all right, I've got a handful. Yeah, I have a very small 1871 01:53:35.479 --> 01:53:40.239 number. I've got x Wing and tie Fighter and half a dozen others. 1872 01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:44.319 It's a good way to get old games, good old games. Yes, 1873 01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:50.880 that might No, that's not it for news. Good god, damn it. 1874 01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:53.319 I was ready to get out of here. What what do you got? 1875 01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:55.560 Good god? Old games? We still have emails to go through. 1876 01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:58.439 Man. Oh right, look at too jumpy? Sorry? All right, 1877 01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:01.640 one more thing. Uh. There is a big new Xbox One dashboard update 1878 01:54:01.680 --> 01:54:06.199 coming out right, yeah, like today for preview members. Is it going 1879 01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:13.920 to make that dashboard good? Finally, it depends on what's wrong with it? 1880 01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:15.399 So so yes, they have a new screen shout out showing the new 1881 01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:18.239 My Games and Apps look better. Yes, I went to see this thing, 1882 01:54:18.319 --> 01:54:20.439 so I saw it in action. I saw it, so yes they 1883 01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:26.239 Yes, they are somewhat reorganizing the My Games and Apps interface. It scrolls 1884 01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:30.399 vertically now, okay, instead of side to side, smaller tiles. Yes, 1885 01:54:30.479 --> 01:54:32.600 the tiles are shrunk so it fits something like twelve games at a time 1886 01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:34.279 on the screen. Now. It's like, okay, I think it's like 1887 01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:38.359 kind of four across, three down okay. Uh. And like I said, 1888 01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:42.159 scrolls scrolls horizontally and it's broken up by letter so you can jump straight 1889 01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:47.600 to a letter away to skip to the like here you're uninstalled, yes game, 1890 01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:51.520 Yes, they've also yeah, they've cleaned up that stuff for accessing games 1891 01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:55.319 you don't have currently installed. And there there's some other little usability stuff that 1892 01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:59.039 I can't quite remember around like I think you can sort by recently downloaded and 1893 01:54:59.119 --> 01:55:01.960 recently patched stuff like that backwards compatible stuff. So I have two issues, 1894 01:55:02.239 --> 01:55:05.680 one of which is entirely my own thing and not something that I expect them 1895 01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:10.199 to deal with because it's I'm uniquely terrible in that regard, and the other 1896 01:55:10.279 --> 01:55:13.119 is just that straight up, it does not run well. Just the dashboard. 1897 01:55:14.439 --> 01:55:16.039 It's not snappy at all, Like it's always behind me. It always 1898 01:55:16.039 --> 01:55:19.159 feels like it's loading too many things at once in the background, never quite 1899 01:55:19.199 --> 01:55:21.960 works right. It's one. It's like a fucking old Roku. Yeah. 1900 01:55:23.640 --> 01:55:28.039 And that's like the three sixty interface is such an easy thing to get around 1901 01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:30.479 comparatively, it's amazing to me that they have. There are parts, I 1902 01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:31.720 mean, I still have a three sixty hooked up. Yeah, let me 1903 01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:38.159 tell you sucks. Sometimes parts of the three sixty interfaces. If it is 1904 01:55:38.359 --> 01:55:42.880 enumerating all the games on your account, you're sitting there for all, but 1905 01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:45.800 especially compared to like the PS four interface, which is snappy as hell. 1906 01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:47.279 I think one of my favorite always best organized. One of my favorite things 1907 01:55:47.279 --> 01:55:50.520 about the three sixty backwards compatability is bringing up the old blade and watching how 1908 01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:54.079 fast it is on this system. Yeah, like the friends list in the 1909 01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:56.479 achievements. Yeah, all of that stuff just loads in instantly. Yeah, 1910 01:55:56.479 --> 01:55:59.560 that's great, so nice. The other thing that is my unique problem is 1911 01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:03.279 that I own a lot of rock Band downloadable content, and let me tell 1912 01:56:03.399 --> 01:56:10.760 you that design is not meant to deal with that many pieces of DLC. 1913 01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:16.439 Let's let's let's call it over a thousand. Now you go and I want 1914 01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:20.680 to manage my rock band, It zooms you all the way over to the 1915 01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:24.800 wrong side. So I have to scroll all the way back over if I 1916 01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:28.359 want to get to the manage all section, and that takes a little time. 1917 01:56:28.439 --> 01:56:30.720 That sounds crappy. Yeah, and again that is unique, unique problem. 1918 01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:35.119 Very few people will have that said it sucks. Do you do they 1919 01:56:35.159 --> 01:56:39.239 ever fix the thing with rock Band? Like, can you now just go 1920 01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:42.520 to the Xbox interface and have it list all your old DLC that you own? 1921 01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:45.199 Because you couldn't do that at launch. Well, so here's the fun 1922 01:56:45.319 --> 01:56:46.840 part of that is that sometimes takes a while to load in. But yes, 1923 01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:50.439 anytime they add stuff that is just on your account that you can download, 1924 01:56:51.159 --> 01:56:54.359 you go to manage your game, and in that section where it says 1925 01:56:54.439 --> 01:56:57.520 ready to download that stuff appears, that stuff appears. But that's that's why 1926 01:56:57.560 --> 01:56:59.880 it's so shitty for you to scroll through, because you have to scroll through 1927 01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:03.960 a zillion fucking sprint. Yeah. Yeah, that was a broken mess at 1928 01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:06.680 launch of like because it didn't even do that. So I had to go 1929 01:57:06.880 --> 01:57:10.720 through that list not knowing because I didn't know which deal see I owned, 1930 01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:14.319 and hit hit go on every single one to see which ones came up and 1931 01:57:14.359 --> 01:57:15.920 said a dollar ninety nine and which one said you own this yep, and 1932 01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:20.399 even that sometimes wasn't correct. Yeah, so I that is how they've been 1933 01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:26.239 surfacing all the old like track pack and uh you know, like the like 1934 01:57:26.359 --> 01:57:28.760 you the Rock Band two and three soundtracks and all that kind of stuff. 1935 01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:30.880 Like that's where that stuff has been surfacing. I should go check that. 1936 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:32.720 Well, no, no, I'll be okay. I was gonna say I 1937 01:57:32.760 --> 01:57:35.000 should go check that and see if they've added some more stuff that I own, 1938 01:57:35.039 --> 01:57:38.000 was like, no, if you're not an obsessive like me, I 1939 01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:41.399 have boxed up all of the rock Band four gear. I think I'm okay. 1940 01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:45.720 Well, maybe when that that ion Kit adapter launches in the fall, 1941 01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:47.640 maybe that'll be what brings you back. I always wanted to get an eye 1942 01:57:47.640 --> 01:57:51.159 On drum kit, but never did, and they became too hard to find 1943 01:57:51.199 --> 01:57:57.560 at one point for a cheap looking electronic drum set. That thing has held 1944 01:57:57.680 --> 01:58:00.399 up. I just most just thought, like, man, I would really 1945 01:58:00.439 --> 01:58:02.880 like to own a good set of electronic drums. Yeah, and if it 1946 01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:05.600 worked with rock Band, that would be even better because I could use that 1947 01:58:05.680 --> 01:58:10.760 to train to become an okay, like a decent drummer, which I'm not. 1948 01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:13.800 They put it out of an adapter at one point that allowed you to 1949 01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:16.840 use a few other different kinds of electronic kits to to sort of like turn 1950 01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:19.760 that drum brain into something that three sixty would recognize. But I don't think 1951 01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:21.840 any of that ship's going to carry over in this. It's just high on 1952 01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:26.359 or nothing, which makes sense. Yeah, yeah, but I there were 1953 01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:29.960 years there where I really really wanted an eye on kit, and then they 1954 01:58:30.039 --> 01:58:32.279 became incredibly hard to find yeah, and then it was just like nowadays they're 1955 01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:34.880 just run. It's just like, okay, it's too late for me. 1956 01:58:35.239 --> 01:58:39.239 I will never own a good eye on drum kit. Move on, all 1957 01:58:39.319 --> 01:58:42.239 right with your life. And also I don't need one. Also, that's 1958 01:58:42.279 --> 01:58:45.000 the thing that has also changed is now I'm like, oh, I'm over 1959 01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:47.680 this. Yeah fair uh so, Yeah, I saw a demo of this 1960 01:58:47.760 --> 01:58:50.960 thing a couple of weeks ago, and the new games and apps stuff seems 1961 01:58:51.039 --> 01:58:55.640 better. The big thing they're pushing here is the Cortana is now in this 1962 01:58:55.800 --> 01:58:59.680 update. Oh good, it's the It's basically the Cortana engine from Windows Hin 1963 01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:03.439 has come over with connect yeah and replaces yeah. So it replaces the where 1964 01:59:03.439 --> 01:59:06.600 you would just say Xbox whatever do I have to say Quartana? Now you 1965 01:59:06.680 --> 01:59:11.800 have to say hey Quartana? Yeah? I want to pause a DVD or 1966 01:59:11.880 --> 01:59:14.720 something? Yes, okay, hey Quartana. So the bit yeah, it's 1967 01:59:14.760 --> 01:59:17.520 it. Yes, it seems like just unnecessary extra syllables. But I would 1968 01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:21.159 have Xbox pause would still work. I hope. I'm not sure. Actually 1969 01:59:21.199 --> 01:59:24.760 I don't know if that's still Maybe Xbox was too short of a phrase. 1970 01:59:24.800 --> 01:59:30.680 They were getting to me false possitive. They straight quartan as opposed to they 1971 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:33.279 straight up mentioned so do I have to say quartana to get her to bing 1972 01:59:33.439 --> 01:59:38.199 things for me? Like? Yes, so quartana bang here here are already 1973 01:59:38.199 --> 01:59:41.399 big advantages of this thing being advantages? Yes, the being advantages of this 1974 01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:45.880 thing as I saw it demoed are that so? And I guess this is 1975 01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:47.159 you know when it's ten has had this since launched, but it's got it's 1976 01:59:47.199 --> 01:59:51.399 got more natural language processing in it, so you can phrase things a bunch 1977 01:59:51.439 --> 01:59:55.119 of different ways and it will figure out what you're talking about, okay, 1978 01:59:55.199 --> 02:00:00.520 as opposed to like like right now, it's like watch whatever, like it 1979 02:00:00.600 --> 02:00:03.920 has to be watch channel name, or like go to app you know, 1980 02:00:04.279 --> 02:00:08.760 like it's very specific code words now, versus like you could say just like 1981 02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:13.239 hey, Cortona, I want to play Killer Instinct or go to Killer Instinct 1982 02:00:13.319 --> 02:00:15.560 or whatever you say, Like it's supposed to figure out what you want to 1983 02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:19.520 do. Doesn't all this require a piece of technology that they have de emphasized 1984 02:00:19.560 --> 02:00:24.199 to the point of practical non existence. And it sounds like they will allow 1985 02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:28.960 you to use the headset voice okay, if you have a headset plugged in 1986 02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:30.920 and you're playing multiplayer games, but if you have a headset. Oh okay, 1987 02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:33.199 I guess if you're in the middle of playing maybe, But if you 1988 02:00:33.279 --> 02:00:35.760 have a headset on, that means you're holding a controller, which means you're 1989 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:40.039 holding a pretty fast way to get around the Xbox steps as you would like. 1990 02:00:40.119 --> 02:00:43.600 Well whatever, it's like a built in microphone on the new system they're 1991 02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:47.359 talking about, like, not the connect step, not all the inflatah yeah, 1992 02:00:47.439 --> 02:00:50.199 yeah, that could be that. The Yeah, somebody somebody emailed in 1993 02:00:50.279 --> 02:00:54.119 this week specifically saying, hey, do you think this new rumored controller at 1994 02:00:54.399 --> 02:00:59.520 that they're going to unvaildy three might have a microphone built into its use because 1995 02:00:59.560 --> 02:01:03.159 they need to the Katana stuff to work and no one has connect anymore, 1996 02:01:03.239 --> 02:01:08.000 or they can't assume anyone has a connect anymore than they need alternatives. So 1997 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:10.720 I guess, but I still got my connect plugged in. Yeah, me 1998 02:01:10.800 --> 02:01:13.760 too, I like I do not. I haven't used this thing personally. 1999 02:01:13.800 --> 02:01:15.880 I am in no way endorsing its functionality or saying it's going to work amazingly 2000 02:01:15.960 --> 02:01:19.399 or whatever. But like, Cortana is basically Microsoft's answer to Siri, right 2001 02:01:19.640 --> 02:01:24.520 right, I think conceptually you can look at this as like, hopefully this 2002 02:01:24.640 --> 02:01:27.520 will kind of do what Siri does except in an Xbox environment. And I 2003 02:01:27.720 --> 02:01:30.079 so, I, you know, I've been running Windows ten for a very 2004 02:01:30.119 --> 02:01:36.239 long time, and I tried to use Cortana on multiple occasions and just found 2005 02:01:36.279 --> 02:01:40.399 it to be terrible. I mean, that's like I said, that's entirely 2006 02:01:40.439 --> 02:01:43.399 possible that I turned it off in when I was ten. Yeah, I 2007 02:01:43.520 --> 02:01:45.039 tried. I tried for a good solid week of just like okay, well, 2008 02:01:45.119 --> 02:01:48.920 and and into some other problems of like well, I don't keep my 2009 02:01:49.079 --> 02:01:54.079 work email on this machine, so it doesn't have access to my calendars or 2010 02:01:54.119 --> 02:01:55.960 any of the actual email i'd want. So I was like, okay, 2011 02:01:55.960 --> 02:01:58.560 well, let's go through the process of setting that up, and that never 2012 02:01:58.640 --> 02:02:03.279 worked quite right. Uh And and just I never said the integration stuff wasn't 2013 02:02:03.359 --> 02:02:08.119 great on top of that, so like getting the voice stuff to work for 2014 02:02:08.279 --> 02:02:11.479 things that were not integrated as well as they probably needed to be was like 2015 02:02:11.600 --> 02:02:14.039 double fucked. But the whole thing was just pointless. It was just like, 2016 02:02:14.399 --> 02:02:15.960 hey, Cortana, what's the weather? Like I don't fucking care. 2017 02:02:16.399 --> 02:02:20.560 Like I also, I've got Alexa for that, uh, which I don't 2018 02:02:20.680 --> 02:02:26.800 use that much too many disembodied computer ladies running our lives at this point, 2019 02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:30.199 it's terrifying. Yeah, I don't know the two Okay, they're they're not. 2020 02:02:30.239 --> 02:02:32.239 I don't want to sound like I'm just giving their product demo here, 2021 02:02:32.279 --> 02:02:34.960 but there were two cases in the demo they showed that actually seemed kind of 2022 02:02:35.039 --> 02:02:38.720 useful. One was like, you know, have the right now, like 2023 02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:41.920 every game, if you just say, hey, play whatever, like you 2024 02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:46.720 have to say this very long, full fucking name of the game. Uh. 2025 02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:49.960 They they basically said, hey, I want to play Killer Instinct, 2026 02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:54.399 and they had three different killer instincts installed on that system, and it pops 2027 02:02:54.479 --> 02:02:56.880 up a list of every killer instinct and then you can just kind of say, 2028 02:02:57.960 --> 02:03:00.239 you know, it was like Killer in Saint Classic, it was blabat 2029 02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:02.000 and then they just said season three and it launched the right Killer instinct. 2030 02:03:02.079 --> 02:03:04.720 So that stuff seemed a lot more flexible. And the other thing was that 2031 02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:09.760 it I'm not sure what it's keying into here, but it seems aware of 2032 02:03:09.800 --> 02:03:12.479 the names of the people on your friends list, so you can just say, 2033 02:03:13.000 --> 02:03:15.279 hey, start a party with Joe and George or whatever, and it 2034 02:03:15.319 --> 02:03:19.119 will just immediately like start a party and invite those people to it all off 2035 02:03:19.159 --> 02:03:21.680 of that one for sentence. So that's that stuff seemed useful. Yeah, 2036 02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:26.760 I mean, like the like I think connected home stuff is and voice control 2037 02:03:26.840 --> 02:03:28.960 all that. I think all that stuff is really rad. Yeah, and 2038 02:03:29.039 --> 02:03:31.000 you know with that thing having Skype integrated and all the other stuff, like 2039 02:03:31.079 --> 02:03:34.399 there's something interesting about walking around and be like hey Skype somebody. Yeah. 2040 02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:40.239 And for a while I was turning my Xbox on and off with voice but 2041 02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:42.199 at some point I was like, you know, I just I don't need 2042 02:03:42.239 --> 02:03:46.199 any of this and yanked the connect out. Yeah, we'll see how that 2043 02:03:46.239 --> 02:03:50.479 stuff actually works. It seemed like it had some nice shortcut functionality for some 2044 02:03:50.520 --> 02:03:53.520 of that stuff. They're adding a bunch of other stuff, like some some 2045 02:03:53.600 --> 02:03:58.680 Facebook tie in stuff and a bunch of a lot more connections between the Xbox 2046 02:03:58.760 --> 02:04:00.840 app and Windows ten and the Xbox, Like that thing is gonna be gonna 2047 02:04:00.840 --> 02:04:05.520 become aware of non like Xbox and Windows ten games. Right, you probably 2048 02:04:05.520 --> 02:04:09.479 read about some of the stuff like they're basically going back, they said, 2049 02:04:09.479 --> 02:04:12.279 probably like the last well, I was like, how far back are you 2050 02:04:12.359 --> 02:04:15.319 going? And they seem to think like maybe you know, the big games 2051 02:04:15.319 --> 02:04:16.880 of the last decade or whatever, right, Like, it'll be aware of 2052 02:04:16.960 --> 02:04:19.239 those games, so you'll be able to see, like on your Xbox, 2053 02:04:19.279 --> 02:04:23.640 you'll be able to see clips that somebody posted of an old PC game that's 2054 02:04:23.680 --> 02:04:27.640 part of their system now or whatever. So that seems kind of okay. 2055 02:04:27.960 --> 02:04:30.439 I don't know, we'll see how there are so many different ways to capture 2056 02:04:30.600 --> 02:04:33.600 game footage and share it on PC these days. Also that just like none 2057 02:04:33.640 --> 02:04:38.279 of the Xbox, like the Xbox stuff seemed the Windows ten Xbox integration just 2058 02:04:38.319 --> 02:04:41.159 seemed too late. Yeah, it's like, all right, well I've already 2059 02:04:41.199 --> 02:04:44.960 turned off shadow Play and three other ways to do this that I have installed, 2060 02:04:45.159 --> 02:04:46.560 so when there are better versions of it, like shadow Play is way 2061 02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:51.119 better than that game bar thing, like way more options. Yeah, yeah, 2062 02:04:51.439 --> 02:04:57.439 so a lot of it can seem somewhat redundant. Let's see. Uh, 2063 02:04:57.800 --> 02:04:59.880 yeah, that's kind of it. I guess that's I mean, there's 2064 02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:01.960 there's a lot of other minor stuff there, but the new games and apps 2065 02:05:02.000 --> 02:05:04.239 is the thing I care about more than It's not nothing, you know. 2066 02:05:04.479 --> 02:05:08.800 Yeah, and the quartan of stuff seems potentially kind of interesting. Anything that 2067 02:05:08.880 --> 02:05:12.880 makes that interface easier to use is a step in the right direction because in 2068 02:05:12.960 --> 02:05:15.119 the lifespan of that console it has not gotten a great deal better. I 2069 02:05:15.199 --> 02:05:19.760 am mostly interested in seeing them unify the store. That was also part of 2070 02:05:19.880 --> 02:05:23.960 that's also part of the Yes, the UNWP app stuff be rolling out as 2071 02:05:24.000 --> 02:05:27.319 part. So when when Windows ten apps kind of live on the Xbox One, 2072 02:05:27.399 --> 02:05:30.079 Yes, that is also happening because we theoretically have an app that someone 2073 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:33.199 made for us that was in the Windows eight store like that. I wonder 2074 02:05:33.239 --> 02:05:35.239 if that will just come in. Yeah, I don't I mean, I 2075 02:05:35.279 --> 02:05:38.039 don't know about that one in particular. Ye, I don't know. They 2076 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:41.279 are unifying that stuff. Like when you think about it, the idea of 2077 02:05:41.399 --> 02:05:45.600 user created apps showing up on that console could could give that console a whole 2078 02:05:45.680 --> 02:05:48.279 different use case totally. Like if people come up with a bunch of weird 2079 02:05:48.279 --> 02:05:50.840 apps that you never thought you needed on that thing, Like I could see 2080 02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:56.920 myself using quite a bit of that stuff. Uh, all right, let's 2081 02:05:56.960 --> 02:05:59.640 it for news. There was a lot of goddamn news. Yeah, no 2082 02:05:59.680 --> 02:06:04.039 short, nuts and bolts shit happening right for three. Not nuts and bolts, 2083 02:06:04.119 --> 02:06:09.960 not wish not that guy, wish them very real man nuts and bolts 2084 02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:13.159 too. They made us and bolts at the end of the ukulele trailer. 2085 02:06:13.479 --> 02:06:15.680 What, Yeah, they're like, oh, next thing, you know, 2086 02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:17.439 they're gonna put cars in this thing. Also that got pushed to Oh that 2087 02:06:17.560 --> 02:06:21.199 sounds that sounds just like cheeky kinada. Yeah, I don't know. I'm 2088 02:06:21.199 --> 02:06:25.039 not going to hold that against them. Yeah. Also it also looks great. 2089 02:06:25.119 --> 02:06:29.399 Also, I would assume some of those people were there for that game. 2090 02:06:29.560 --> 02:06:31.319 I'm sure yeah, okay, all right, yes, that that trailer 2091 02:06:31.359 --> 02:06:34.560 would Yeah, that got pushed twenty seventeen. But that trailer look super good. 2092 02:06:34.640 --> 02:06:38.680 Really looking forward to that. Yeah, that game looks surprisingly awesome. 2093 02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:42.159 All right, one of three, three dudes out of the way, let's 2094 02:06:42.199 --> 02:06:46.479 get I'm still holding this like this perceived nuts and bolts slight against that game 2095 02:06:46.720 --> 02:06:50.239 and the people make meet. So I'm still over here going nope. All 2096 02:06:50.279 --> 02:06:54.960 right, Well, while you're feeling Brad, what time is it, uh 2097 02:06:55.920 --> 02:06:57.960 like actual time? No? I mean, like what time? What is 2098 02:06:57.960 --> 02:07:00.239 the is the next segment? What are we doing? Brad? What time 2099 02:07:00.359 --> 02:07:02.600 is it time to take a break? What are you talking about? What 2100 02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:05.880 is the thing that we're going to do when we come back from the break. 2101 02:07:06.079 --> 02:07:43.920 Maybe you maybe you should sit for this break and find out Alex what 2102 02:07:44.039 --> 02:07:46.439 time is it? Brad, we went through this. I tried to get 2103 02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:49.039 you to talk about it, and you weren't. You were being obstinateially, 2104 02:07:49.159 --> 02:07:50.960 you know what, I'm not going to help you. I'm not going till 2105 02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:55.520 I'm still kind of in the dark. Does anybody know what the next segment? 2106 02:07:55.560 --> 02:07:57.279 Do you want me to say it out loud for you or would you 2107 02:07:57.399 --> 02:07:59.640 like to say it and give me? Have me give you the set up 2108 02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:03.399 to tell what do we do now? It's one forty five, It's time. 2109 02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:26.439 Yes for emails that was getting frequent, fly long. I'm what I'm 2110 02:08:26.439 --> 02:08:28.760 not putting me still had a breath left. I could have kept going, 2111 02:08:28.800 --> 02:08:33.640 but I stopped for you. That's intense. Podcaster john Ball dot com was 2112 02:08:33.680 --> 02:08:35.880 the email address. I've just always wanted to do that. That was pretty 2113 02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:39.439 good. I'm not gonna lie first. I always wanted to do that for 2114 02:08:39.560 --> 02:08:43.039 a dude, for a dude who can't for a dude who can't run down 2115 02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:46.159 this hallway without getting when did I have a surprising amount of lung capacity? 2116 02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:50.199 So it was pretty good. First email comes in from John. It's about 2117 02:08:50.239 --> 02:08:56.479 Pachinko emulation. Do Pachinko emulators exist. Uh my Google search in English is 2118 02:08:56.520 --> 02:09:01.520 inconclusive. But tonight I ran across a Japanese which stream which appeared to be 2119 02:09:01.600 --> 02:09:05.119 showing just that he sent a couple of screenshots. In the stream is cryptically 2120 02:09:05.159 --> 02:09:09.239 titled cr. It appears to be a Windows program showing all the crazy graphics 2121 02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:13.520 of a legitimate Pachinko machine Teken or something on the top screen, and then 2122 02:09:13.600 --> 02:09:18.039 on the bottom it has digital balls rolling around on a photo of a machine. 2123 02:09:18.600 --> 02:09:20.439 It says version one point zero point zero in text at the bottom, 2124 02:09:20.640 --> 02:09:24.920 So maybe pachinko emulation is brand new anyway, I'm just curious if any of 2125 02:09:24.960 --> 02:09:28.760 you have ever tried it, if it does exist. I didn't imagine it 2126 02:09:28.880 --> 02:09:33.000 being very much fun, just an emulated slot machine, But then I started 2127 02:09:33.079 --> 02:09:37.119 watching and was a little entranced by all the crazy graphics and sounds. Wouldn't 2128 02:09:37.119 --> 02:09:39.600 it be so much better than with the actual like clinking and clanking of the 2129 02:09:39.039 --> 02:09:41.159 real balls. I mean, see, if you just want to see the 2130 02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:45.760 graphics of this thing, then you can you know, emulate the machine and 2131 02:09:45.880 --> 02:09:48.279 then dupe it into winning so you get to see all the animations crazy shit, 2132 02:09:48.680 --> 02:09:50.880 way faster than you would. So if I want to watch all those 2133 02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:54.560 Snake Eater cut scenes in the Fox engine, right, dude, that thing? 2134 02:09:54.159 --> 02:09:58.159 Dude, man, that dude that looked really nice. Yep, how 2135 02:09:58.279 --> 02:10:01.680 upsetting is that? That's what that's for. Here's the here's the incredible looking 2136 02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:05.760 modern remake of Snaky. To really know, you know what, if there 2137 02:10:05.880 --> 02:10:07.840 is more, one will never see it. Yeah, I mean, couldn't 2138 02:10:09.039 --> 02:10:11.319 Canamy technically just put that out? Canomy could do lots of things. Yeah, 2139 02:10:11.439 --> 02:10:13.560 guess what they're going to do? What they're not going to do that? 2140 02:10:13.680 --> 02:10:16.520 What is it exactly that you want them to put out? Like the 2141 02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:20.399 cut scenes just more like an HD update of three. Basically it's not going 2142 02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:22.319 to happen. They made those cut scenes. You will never have a remake 2143 02:10:22.359 --> 02:10:26.079 of Snaking. Those cut scenes are for the gamblers and only for the gamblers. 2144 02:10:26.159 --> 02:10:30.239 All the voice actings already recorded. You could do it. Nope. 2145 02:10:31.520 --> 02:10:35.199 Gambling makes a lot of money, it does or loses a lot of money. 2146 02:10:35.279 --> 02:10:37.439 Health clubs those are huge. Yeah, here's your metal gear themed health 2147 02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:41.439 club. Okay that it's all pull ups? Yeah? Really okay, I 2148 02:10:41.479 --> 02:10:45.000 think grip by the end time you're done or your money back yeah, oh 2149 02:10:45.039 --> 02:10:48.720 wow, Yeah, yep. I mean, does anybody know if this actually 2150 02:10:48.720 --> 02:10:50.880 exists? I could believe it does. But if he's saying he saw a 2151 02:10:50.920 --> 02:10:54.279 stream, I believe it. But this was news to me. But I 2152 02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:56.720 don't know. Yeah, there's yes, people emulate a lot of weird stuff. 2153 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:00.800 Uh, I can think of No fat, I've had an old reason 2154 02:11:00.840 --> 02:11:03.359 why that couldn't exist. Yeah, well you have to get your hands on 2155 02:11:03.359 --> 02:11:07.680 all the game for all the machine and stuff like the assets and the right 2156 02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:11.039 who knows? Yeah, who can say? You know, people are rebuilding 2157 02:11:11.319 --> 02:11:18.520 classic pinball machines in various like freely available pinball packages and then emulating the ROMs 2158 02:11:18.560 --> 02:11:20.720 and hooking it all up like you know, as a fan thing. Not 2159 02:11:20.079 --> 02:11:22.239 No, I'm not just talking about the pinball arcade. So you know, 2160 02:11:22.279 --> 02:11:24.479 there's a lot of stuff out there that. Yeah, people jump through a 2161 02:11:24.520 --> 02:11:26.800 lot of crazy hoops to do a lot of cool shit. So yeah, 2162 02:11:26.840 --> 02:11:31.840 of course, Oh that medic your footish looks so good. Chris from New 2163 02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:35.439 York. So reading the latest news on Vivendi, the media equivalent of the 2164 02:11:35.520 --> 02:11:41.680 Illuminati taking over game Loft and now focusing on its literal sibling company, you 2165 02:11:41.800 --> 02:11:45.039 be soft. I got to thinking, has a company ever gone, ever 2166 02:11:45.159 --> 02:11:48.840 before, gone into a major event like E three with something as big and 2167 02:11:48.920 --> 02:11:52.159 scary as a hostile takeover floating over their heads. The closest I can think 2168 02:11:52.159 --> 02:11:56.319 of is when Apple had to announce a new iPhone while fighting the FBI, 2169 02:11:56.560 --> 02:12:00.479 But at least then almost every company in Silicon Valley had made legal efforts to 2170 02:12:00.560 --> 02:12:03.920 back Apple. Ps that Illuminati joke is real. In eighteen fifty three, 2171 02:12:05.079 --> 02:12:09.279 Vivendi was founded by Napoleon's nephew, also named Napoleon, by imperial decree to 2172 02:12:09.399 --> 02:12:13.279 profit from Harris's water supply. I did not fact check that, but it 2173 02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:16.199 sounds ridiculous. I mean, that's not that's a that is not a story. 2174 02:12:16.199 --> 02:12:20.479 I would expect someone to just make up a cloth. The Illuminati the 2175 02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:24.520 same as the Templars, basically kind of. Yeah. I saw Napoleon's nephew 2176 02:12:24.520 --> 02:12:26.880 at the Hot Monk class year week, and I gotta say, they're sounded 2177 02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:31.159 really good. Yeah, Yeah, they're they're really coming into their own I 2178 02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:33.960 would say, even because I would say also with the with the Apple thing, 2179 02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:37.359 that was not as much of an existential threat as this kind of thing 2180 02:12:37.760 --> 02:12:43.680 is. Like, yeah, fighting, I mean Apple was Apple wasn't going 2181 02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:46.520 to go anywhere. Apple wasn't like in a in a real dire place with 2182 02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:50.479 that, I guess not. I actually don't remember what instance he's talking about, 2183 02:12:52.039 --> 02:12:54.720 because that shooting happens since an iPhone has been announced. So no, 2184 02:12:54.000 --> 02:12:58.920 that's right. But they did have. But but the the FBI, like 2185 02:12:58.000 --> 02:13:01.640 the stuff, whether they were going to be forced to you know, coerced 2186 02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:05.239 into unlocking this iPhone, all the other stuff like that stuff was coming to 2187 02:13:05.279 --> 02:13:07.880 a head going as they were getting ready to announce stuff. That's true. 2188 02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:16.680 Oh right, they did announce with the sixth seed whatever it was, back 2189 02:13:16.680 --> 02:13:18.760 in March. I totally forgot about that. Yeah, I mean there have 2190 02:13:18.800 --> 02:13:24.079 been companies that have definitely gone into E three in not great situations. I 2191 02:13:24.119 --> 02:13:26.560 feel like THHQ was probably there. Yeah, yeah, at various points has 2192 02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:31.239 been there. Sure, but I don't know that anything quite like this. 2193 02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:37.600 Yeah. I can't imagine that they acknowledge it in any way whatsoever throughout the 2194 02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:39.439 course of the show. Well they've got yeah, I mean at least not 2195 02:13:39.520 --> 02:13:43.000 as part of their main press conference and as the part of the show itself. 2196 02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:46.600 But you know, they do spend time talking to analysts and those people 2197 02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:50.800 will have questions for sure that will probably have to be addressed. They're going 2198 02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:54.000 to have some interpretive dancers come out and uh, you know, sort of 2199 02:13:54.079 --> 02:13:58.000 portray the dire circumstances under which the company is in. And then Eves came 2200 02:13:58.039 --> 02:14:00.439 out. He is going to come out and he's going to read some poetry 2201 02:14:00.600 --> 02:14:05.680 and then he's gonna shoot all the dancers. I took a darker turn than 2202 02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:09.199 I intended. Yeah, but it'll be with those fun laser tag guns. 2203 02:14:09.359 --> 02:14:13.239 Okay, that's fine, Yeah, that's good. Its a lot of real 2204 02:14:13.279 --> 02:14:18.439 pistol and oh now, no, shoot the cous player and say this is 2205 02:14:18.439 --> 02:14:20.600 all your fault, and then it'll be revealed that that cous player from last 2206 02:14:20.680 --> 02:14:31.000 year Napoleon's Great Great Great and then Assassin's Creed. Yeah, movie trailers played 2207 02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:33.039 for the sequel, which is all about hustle takeovers. It's a lot of 2208 02:14:33.079 --> 02:14:39.239 brand synergy. I like it. Uh, Zane in Nashville, Old Nashville 2209 02:14:39.319 --> 02:14:43.800 Zane. Yep, that's the guy wants to know when games journalism got friendly. 2210 02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:48.239 I just got done watching Jeff Over from the kind of Yeah right on 2211 02:14:48.279 --> 02:14:52.279 the kind of Funny Games Cast, where he touched on how games journalists have 2212 02:14:52.479 --> 02:14:56.520 gotten friendlier with each other since the old days. Similarly, Austin was recently 2213 02:14:56.560 --> 02:15:01.079 on an episode of Cool Games, Inc. Dan and Patrick Taku have their 2214 02:15:01.159 --> 02:15:07.279 thing going. Everyone ever has made an appearance after Paxiomania's because uh, you've 2215 02:15:07.279 --> 02:15:09.319 got an standing invite. I've never heard from anyone about anything. What's your 2216 02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:13.159 character? Whats your I don't have one. I probably would say no because 2217 02:15:13.199 --> 02:15:16.199 I don't. I think I think an old like Kentucky colonel style thing might 2218 02:15:16.239 --> 02:15:24.239 be good for you. Seven Okay, could be the cizarro professional terrified of 2219 02:15:24.279 --> 02:15:28.119 shaving my head. Oh well, he has such good hair. Anyway, 2220 02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:33.039 we'll see. Anyway. He wants to know. He wants to know win 2221 02:15:33.119 --> 02:15:35.159 and why this change of heart happened, and why it wasn't always that way 2222 02:15:37.039 --> 02:15:41.039 and it was always that way, not for everyone, like, not for 2223 02:15:41.119 --> 02:15:45.359 everyone, yes, not for certain knowledge. I think if you Yeah, 2224 02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:46.600 if you were at IGN or you were at game Spot. Back in the 2225 02:15:46.680 --> 02:15:52.520 day, there was definitely a mentality of the fiefdoms do not interact with each 2226 02:15:52.560 --> 02:15:56.399 other versus them, but the vast majority of that emanated from the game Spot 2227 02:15:56.479 --> 02:16:01.079 side and a very specific number of people from Yeah yeah, so yes, 2228 02:16:01.279 --> 02:16:03.239 it was just the game Spot was being run in a very unfriendly way. 2229 02:16:05.359 --> 02:16:07.960 It was a very us against the work Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And 2230 02:16:07.039 --> 02:16:09.720 that was you know, like we had that mentality internally as well, a 2231 02:16:09.840 --> 02:16:13.640 very a very competitive way, I would say. Yeah. Also game and 2232 02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:16.239 Former and AGM or that way in the nineties, that makes yeah, yeah, 2233 02:16:16.319 --> 02:16:20.399 that totally makes sense. Game pro though, they were just cool to 2234 02:16:20.479 --> 02:16:24.119 everyone. Yeah, they were super chill yeah, ultra game players yeah yeah, 2235 02:16:26.199 --> 02:16:28.960 yeah, yeah. No, I would say it was definitely post like 2236 02:16:28.439 --> 02:16:33.079 that era of game Spot and IgM that things kind of started to branch out. 2237 02:16:33.120 --> 02:16:35.559 I mean, as sites also kind of started to spread out more and 2238 02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:39.559 more, like it's harder and harder everyone and everyone has worked everywhere. Yeah 2239 02:16:39.879 --> 02:16:41.879 yeah, and and and also just as personality became a bigger focus in the 2240 02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:46.040 content, you know, yeah, it's a lot more chances for different personality. 2241 02:16:46.200 --> 02:16:48.680 It makes a lot better sense. Yeah, it makes a lot less 2242 02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:52.879 sense to like treat the people in your line of work as enemies when you 2243 02:16:52.000 --> 02:16:56.639 realize that there is an increasingly few number of people doing your line of work 2244 02:16:56.520 --> 02:17:01.440 and you all like and they are people of there's a limited number of people 2245 02:17:01.440 --> 02:17:05.639 who understand like the fucking ins and outs of these sorts of jobs. Yeah. 2246 02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:09.079 So having someone we can be like, hey, remember this is this 2247 02:17:09.159 --> 02:17:13.280 person at this company really horrible to you as well, and they can say, 2248 02:17:13.319 --> 02:17:15.719 oh, yes, this entire PR team is the worst in the business, 2249 02:17:15.760 --> 02:17:18.840 and you can say, yeah, right, real crazy anyway, Okay, 2250 02:17:18.879 --> 02:17:20.120 cool? I thought they just hated me. Yeah, yes, exactly. 2251 02:17:20.319 --> 02:17:22.840 Like like, being able to bounce that sort of stuff off of someone 2252 02:17:22.959 --> 02:17:28.399 is fun sometimes. Yeah, that helps. Who's this from this? From 2253 02:17:28.440 --> 02:17:33.319 her? Hey, I'm pretty young, and because of that, I tried 2254 02:17:33.360 --> 02:17:35.719 to do my best to read up on the history of the industry. One 2255 02:17:35.799 --> 02:17:39.360 thing that I cannot get a feel for, though, is how the community 2256 02:17:39.440 --> 02:17:43.559 felt about the launch and life of the Sega Saturn. Dozens of issues of 2257 02:17:43.639 --> 02:17:46.600 Nintendo Power and make it clear that the Ultra sixty four hype was real, 2258 02:17:46.120 --> 02:17:50.120 and I vaguely remember the excitement around the ninety nine launch of the Saga Dreamcast. 2259 02:17:50.840 --> 02:17:54.200 I would love it if you could drop some knowledge on me about the 2260 02:17:54.319 --> 02:17:56.639 lead up to this console and it's death, as I only know it for 2261 02:17:56.719 --> 02:18:01.600 having a good port of Virtual Fighter two and some cool working designs games. 2262 02:18:01.639 --> 02:18:05.920 It's about it. That's a Saturday. Then it's really great, like the 2263 02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:09.520 coolest surprise launch ever. Yeah, the shadows, that's all. That's what 2264 02:18:09.639 --> 02:18:11.319 you need to know. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a 2265 02:18:11.399 --> 02:18:15.440 surprise launch, like out of e three they said, and it's available right 2266 02:18:15.479 --> 02:18:18.559 now. So that was toys. Half the reason that I pulled this email 2267 02:18:18.639 --> 02:18:22.760 was because like, so that was that was ninety four right early. I 2268 02:18:22.760 --> 02:18:26.120 feel like ninety five. Either way, it was like it was it was 2269 02:18:26.239 --> 02:18:31.680 ninety four Japan maybe, well specifically the the surprise US launch, because it 2270 02:18:31.840 --> 02:18:35.600 was it wasn't quite pretty Internet like people were starting to get dial up. 2271 02:18:35.639 --> 02:18:37.639 I might have been on dial up at that time, but it was way 2272 02:18:37.760 --> 02:18:39.639 pre an I was on US net by that right, so, but but 2273 02:18:41.799 --> 02:18:43.639 but the big distinction is there was no like you know, Twitter feed scrolling 2274 02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:46.079 on the side of your screen at the time. It's like no one's streaming, 2275 02:18:46.159 --> 02:18:48.920 and right, like I don't have a good sense of like what the 2276 02:18:50.159 --> 02:18:52.879 mass reaction was to, like, holy shit, there was a major new 2277 02:18:52.920 --> 02:18:54.840 console and it's just on sale now. Most people probably didn't hear about it 2278 02:18:54.959 --> 02:19:01.120 until the next issues at EM or later that week at least, Yeah, 2279 02:19:01.760 --> 02:19:03.399 when they saw it in a story. Yeah, yeah, it was May 2280 02:19:03.520 --> 02:19:07.440 ninety five here, yeah, so kay it was three five. Yeah. 2281 02:19:09.319 --> 02:19:13.559 It was weird, Like I remember getting home from me three and going and 2282 02:19:13.600 --> 02:19:20.520 buying a Saturn well uh like pretty much immediately, yeah, and it felt 2283 02:19:20.559 --> 02:19:24.280 like it didn't have a lot of games. And that was also the year 2284 02:19:24.360 --> 02:19:28.360 that the PlayStation was ADDI three. Yes, and we spent all of our 2285 02:19:28.440 --> 02:19:35.040 time and saying like this looks fucking awesome. Yeah, fuck the Saturn. 2286 02:19:35.239 --> 02:19:37.440 Yeah, like the the thing of like the Saturn is dead in the water 2287 02:19:37.799 --> 02:19:41.840 was real and it was before the launch of the It was really the day 2288 02:19:41.879 --> 02:19:43.879 of the launch of the Saturn. You were like, oh, okay, 2289 02:19:43.879 --> 02:19:46.920 so people were already PlayStation. No, you need to see the fucking PlayStation. 2290 02:19:48.159 --> 02:19:50.799 You need to see this ship. Like was that was that was Sony 2291 02:19:50.879 --> 02:19:54.920 showing the PlayStation not like, well that's not your story, Like yeah, 2292 02:19:56.200 --> 02:19:58.280 the one Joystick company that had toshnd and running that we went and played was 2293 02:19:58.319 --> 02:20:01.399 there, but Sony was also there, but they may not have had a 2294 02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:03.520 bunch of PlayStations out. I can't remember the exact timetable and that stuff, 2295 02:20:03.600 --> 02:20:07.719 but uh, was that an Atlanta year? No? No? That was? 2296 02:20:09.319 --> 02:20:13.559 Or wait, was that the first three yeah, because ninety seven was 2297 02:20:13.600 --> 02:20:16.879 my first one and that was the third one overall. Yes, that makes 2298 02:20:16.920 --> 02:20:20.879 sense. Yeah, my first one was nine eight or ninety nine. So 2299 02:20:20.319 --> 02:20:24.879 yeah, it was this. It was this feeling of like the Saturn was 2300 02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:28.520 there being ready to shown leading up to its launch or or as you know, 2301 02:20:28.719 --> 02:20:31.079 in conjunction with its launch as it turned out, and just none of 2302 02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:33.360 it looked that great. Yeah, and you looked at it and just like 2303 02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:37.559 this doesn't I mean, you know, Sega was coming off the thirty two 2304 02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:39.840 X, so they kind of seemed like they were crazy by that point, 2305 02:20:41.000 --> 02:20:43.639 yea, And you were just like, well what I mean they you know, 2306 02:20:43.680 --> 02:20:46.000 the Sega CD came out and that seemed like kind of a swing and 2307 02:20:46.040 --> 02:20:48.520 a miss, even if even if it did have some neat ideas. And 2308 02:20:48.639 --> 02:20:50.760 I guess like that launch poured a virtual Fighter looked pretty bad, right, 2309 02:20:50.879 --> 02:20:54.280 Yeah, it didn't look great. Uh you know Clockwork ninety So there's just 2310 02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:56.239 like stuff that you just looked at it form like you know, I don't 2311 02:20:56.280 --> 02:21:00.360 know, this looks like it could be okay, but it's not quite. 2312 02:21:01.079 --> 02:21:05.120 It wasn't moving me. And that was the impression I got is that people 2313 02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:09.200 anyone who had seen the PlayStation, was like, yeah, get it, 2314 02:21:09.399 --> 02:21:11.319 you need to see the PlayStation. If you had not seen the PlayStation yet, 2315 02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:13.719 it was like, have you checked out the PlayStation? You should probably 2316 02:21:13.719 --> 02:21:18.440 go look at the PlayStation because the Saturn is not a PlayStation. Yeah uh. 2317 02:21:18.559 --> 02:21:20.520 And and it was this weird shift of like, oh, man, 2318 02:21:20.600 --> 02:21:24.680 Sony is totally for real. Like it wasn't just like here's some big company 2319 02:21:24.760 --> 02:21:28.639 like Phillips getting in three d o you know, like some weird laser disc 2320 02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:31.079 add on. Yeah, it wasn't just something. You know, you looked 2321 02:21:31.120 --> 02:21:33.920 at it the same way you looked at Microsoft getting in when the Xbox came 2322 02:21:33.959 --> 02:21:35.559 out, of just like what the fuck does this company know about video game? 2323 02:21:35.639 --> 02:21:41.959 But this players, Yeah, they're they're doomed whatever. I do remember 2324 02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:46.760 that attitude for sure, yeah uh and and but then upon seeing the PlayStation, 2325 02:21:46.799 --> 02:21:48.520 you were like, they are absolutely one hundred percent for real. They 2326 02:21:48.559 --> 02:21:52.040 are fucking doing it in a way that no one else is. Like this 2327 02:21:52.239 --> 02:21:54.360 is the thing. The proof was one hundred percent. And the pudding on 2328 02:21:54.399 --> 02:21:58.120 that one because like just the first time you saw games running on just like 2329 02:21:58.200 --> 02:22:01.399 okay, I've got to get one of those, definitely, And I remember 2330 02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:09.959 hearing this would have been ninety four. Maybe we're hearing a ninety four from 2331 02:22:09.239 --> 02:22:13.159 someone Like we had three dos and stuff in the office at the magazine I 2332 02:22:13.239 --> 02:22:15.840 worked at at the time and all this other stuff, and as I was 2333 02:22:15.959 --> 02:22:18.200 getting ready to fold, there was a guy that was like, hey, 2334 02:22:18.280 --> 02:22:20.120 yeah, so I know a guy who were at Sony and they're getting ready 2335 02:22:20.159 --> 02:22:24.680 to do a video game console. I could probably hook you up with them 2336 02:22:24.719 --> 02:22:28.639 or something like that. And it just never happened because the magazine folded. 2337 02:22:28.680 --> 02:22:31.639 But at the time it was like that thing of just like, well, 2338 02:22:31.639 --> 02:22:33.799 we already had this three do and that thing was a thousand, you know, 2339 02:22:33.879 --> 02:22:35.600 seven hundred bucks and a piece of shit. So it was just like, 2340 02:22:35.719 --> 02:22:37.840 well, whatever, some other CD companies are gonna get in with some 2341 02:22:37.879 --> 02:22:41.799 more fucking garbage. Whatever. This thing is no way, no way. 2342 02:22:41.000 --> 02:22:46.639 I've got a PC. I'm playing Doom on it. Who cares? But 2343 02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:52.639 yeah, yeah, the PlayStation was instantly impressive and the Saturn was not okay. 2344 02:22:52.680 --> 02:22:56.639 So I didn't realize going into that launch, people were already going like 2345 02:22:56.760 --> 02:23:01.280 the thing's doomed, maybe doomed. But it was like, dude, the 2346 02:23:01.280 --> 02:23:03.479 PlayStation is right around the corner and is awesome, It just didn't make the 2347 02:23:03.520 --> 02:23:07.239 splash they had intended with that surprise announcement. So so the big crazy marketing 2348 02:23:07.319 --> 02:23:09.600 move because because we to this day say like, oh god, I hope 2349 02:23:09.639 --> 02:23:13.120 they just announced on release Half Life three, you know, like that crazy 2350 02:23:13.200 --> 02:23:16.200 marketing move of like here it is and it's out, Like they didn't really 2351 02:23:16.239 --> 02:23:18.719 make a lot of waves. Yeah, no, it well yeah it did. 2352 02:23:18.799 --> 02:23:22.959 But you know, remember like the lasting legacy of that is that it 2353 02:23:22.079 --> 02:23:28.200 was terrible for them because only a certain number of retailers got that early stock 2354 02:23:28.239 --> 02:23:33.239 of Saturn, which then pissed off all the other retailers, inspiring them to 2355 02:23:33.520 --> 02:23:37.399 double their orders on PlayStation or something. You know, So it really rubbed 2356 02:23:37.399 --> 02:23:41.159 a lot of people in the retail space the wrong way, and the Saturn 2357 02:23:41.280 --> 02:23:45.879 launch started with a bunch of problems like that, and so it would I 2358 02:23:45.959 --> 02:23:48.079 think it was probably a pretty bad way for them to launch their console. 2359 02:23:48.159 --> 02:23:50.680 Plus they just had no time to market it right, get the word out. 2360 02:23:50.719 --> 02:23:54.680 It's so weird that the one high profile example of that happening was something 2361 02:23:54.719 --> 02:23:58.040 as big as a like major console and now just like oh this weird game 2362 02:23:58.120 --> 02:24:00.600 came out surprise. Yeah, you know, but that's you know, fallout 2363 02:24:00.639 --> 02:24:03.280 shelter last year was that, you know, Yeah, Apple does that stuff 2364 02:24:03.360 --> 02:24:05.520 routinely with some of their devices, Well not so much anymore, but you 2365 02:24:05.600 --> 02:24:09.000 know they go on they go on pre order. They used to do that, 2366 02:24:09.079 --> 02:24:11.479 well the yeah, or like the laptops and stuff, they'll still do 2367 02:24:11.520 --> 02:24:15.000 that. Yeah, Yeah, it's one all to day. With digital games, 2368 02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:18.360 it's a different thing because there's no like shipping it to retailers and meeting 2369 02:24:18.399 --> 02:24:20.280 space on shelves. And now if you if you have to go through that 2370 02:24:20.319 --> 02:24:24.440 process of shipping things to retailers, it'll leak out, you know. Yeah, 2371 02:24:24.440 --> 02:24:26.319 So that's what happened with this and Justice. Yeah, right, Like 2372 02:24:26.360 --> 02:24:28.680 I mean that's you know, that's them getting ready to start a pre order 2373 02:24:28.719 --> 02:24:31.600 campaign, right and they can't even keep that under wrap. Probably the day 2374 02:24:31.600 --> 02:24:35.719 that it gets announced. You would think that that stuff would get like that. 2375 02:24:35.799 --> 02:24:39.840 They would come up with new ways at game Stop Corporate to stop the 2376 02:24:39.840 --> 02:24:43.159 ship like that from happening of like all right, we're gonna ship these in 2377 02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:46.799 fucking locked up ship and then we're not going to send you the combination for 2378 02:24:46.879 --> 02:24:50.319 the lock until such and such time, and that will be coincided with the 2379 02:24:50.360 --> 02:24:54.520 announcement, and then you will be ready to take pre orders for the game 2380 02:24:54.559 --> 02:24:58.399 that is inside, and we will update your computers at said time to reflect 2381 02:24:58.479 --> 02:25:01.680 this new pre order campaign. Like, it's amazing to me that this has 2382 02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:05.600 not been tightened up. And it's one of those things that I guess maybe, 2383 02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:07.440 well whatever, maybe no one actually cares that much, because it does 2384 02:25:09.200 --> 02:25:13.719 generate a certain amount of excitement with the people who really do keep their ear 2385 02:25:13.760 --> 02:25:16.120 to the ground. Yeah, and the announcemental still get press. Yeah, 2386 02:25:16.200 --> 02:25:22.399 still still catch you know, the attention of people in the mainstream. Uh, 2387 02:25:22.879 --> 02:25:28.920 let's see how about this email? Yeah? Sure? Why Brian from 2388 02:25:28.920 --> 02:25:33.000 Aurora, Ontario. On last week's podcast, you guys were talking about Platinum 2389 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:37.120 Games making crappy games. Drew was curious about what their main team could be 2390 02:25:37.239 --> 02:25:39.399 working on, and I was wondering what happened to scale Bound That how to 2391 02:25:39.479 --> 02:25:43.680 Train Your Dragons with Beats Headphones game? It seems to still be coming. 2392 02:25:43.799 --> 02:25:46.879 But has Hope died for it? Why is there no interest or news for 2393 02:25:46.959 --> 02:25:50.399 this? I haven't really shown anything. Yeah, they showed it at Games 2394 02:25:50.440 --> 02:25:54.719 Colm. They have a playable demo at Games Colm last year where it looks 2395 02:25:54.760 --> 02:25:56.840 like tentatively interesting, but I feel like I remember it also running kind of 2396 02:25:56.920 --> 02:26:00.639 like crap. Yeah, I don't feel like that game has made a super 2397 02:26:00.719 --> 02:26:05.239 strong impression on people yet, like outside of like some of the aesthetic choices. 2398 02:26:05.200 --> 02:26:09.559 But that, I mean is definitely what that main team is working on 2399 02:26:09.799 --> 02:26:11.520 right now. Yeah. I think that's what Kamio is working on specifically, 2400 02:26:11.600 --> 02:26:16.360 right, Yeah, that's his game. I think shame they didn't have his 2401 02:26:16.479 --> 02:26:20.479 touch on that Ninja Turtles game because yeah, don't hear good things? Uh 2402 02:26:22.120 --> 02:26:24.680 yeah, they're like, we tried to keep our ear to the ground on 2403 02:26:24.760 --> 02:26:26.840 what's up with scale Bound and haven't heard anything. I mean, it's not 2404 02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:30.600 this year. I know that I'm not coming out this year. No, 2405 02:26:31.200 --> 02:26:33.040 I'm pretty sure they said, like that's a twenty seventeen. Okay, well 2406 02:26:33.079 --> 02:26:35.239 if it's that far back then maybe it. We'll be eighty three either, 2407 02:26:37.159 --> 02:26:43.000 who can say? Yeah? Uh Sean from Indianapolis, Hey, guys, 2408 02:26:43.120 --> 02:26:45.760 just watching, he says the Old Games Show. I'm pretty sure this was 2409 02:26:45.799 --> 02:26:48.600 on game tapes, but I might be wrong. And the momentary confusion between 2410 02:26:48.680 --> 02:26:52.680 bust a Move and bust a Groove got me thinking, are there any name 2411 02:26:52.799 --> 02:26:56.479 changes between territories? That have always bugged you or even put you off of 2412 02:26:56.520 --> 02:27:01.639 the game entirely. I personally refused to called jet Set Radio by that other 2413 02:27:01.760 --> 02:27:05.319 name. The change between soul Edge and soul Blade has always tripped me out 2414 02:27:05.399 --> 02:27:09.920 as well. Yeah, the soul Edge soul Blade thing was weird, yeah, 2415 02:27:11.600 --> 02:27:16.159 because in arcades here it was soul Blade, right right, No, 2416 02:27:16.319 --> 02:27:20.520 No, it was the Arcade When it came to PlayStation, it was the 2417 02:27:20.600 --> 02:27:22.959 same game, right, yes, And I want to say that there were 2418 02:27:24.000 --> 02:27:26.319 some updates, but there were also updates to the arcade version of soul Blade 2419 02:27:26.319 --> 02:27:30.879 at one point, and then it just became soul Caliber and then they never 2420 02:27:30.959 --> 02:27:31.920 went back to soul Blade. Yeah. I actually think it would be really 2421 02:27:31.920 --> 02:27:33.719 cool if they came out of the game and just called it soul Edge two. 2422 02:27:35.399 --> 02:27:37.559 Okay, all right, yeah, sure or three? That was the 2423 02:27:37.639 --> 02:27:39.760 Yeah, I remember back then that was the weird thing because you thought of 2424 02:27:39.799 --> 02:27:41.840 it as the soul Edge franchise. Yeah, and then soul Caliber came out 2425 02:27:41.840 --> 02:27:43.440 and you're like, oh, this is a weird name for a sequel, 2426 02:27:43.440 --> 02:27:46.639 and then it just became that became the name of the thing. Like that 2427 02:27:46.760 --> 02:27:48.600 game was so popular that it just made sense to make a sequel to that 2428 02:27:48.760 --> 02:27:50.879 thing exploded. You have thought it was weird when they're like, this is 2429 02:27:50.920 --> 02:27:54.319 the Soul Caliber two, Like, no, it's Soul Edge three three. 2430 02:27:54.600 --> 02:27:58.479 Yeah, what the fuck is going on? It's called Dark Forces two, 2431 02:27:58.600 --> 02:28:01.280 damn it, night Jet and Night Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think 2432 02:28:01.639 --> 02:28:05.360 Biohazard is a better name. It doesn't really bug me, residents. It's 2433 02:28:05.360 --> 02:28:11.280 a bad a great bad name. I'm not saying it's just no merit, 2434 02:28:11.159 --> 02:28:16.000 but it's a bad name, and Biohazard's a pretty cool name. It's a 2435 02:28:16.040 --> 02:28:20.879 great band. Yeah. Didn't Life Force used to be called Salamander? Yeah, 2436 02:28:20.959 --> 02:28:22.760 it's Salamander in Japan. Yeah, that Salamander is a pretty good name. 2437 02:28:22.840 --> 02:28:28.680 It should have saved Salamander. That's why it's it's just not that for 2438 02:28:28.799 --> 02:28:31.760 what that game is. I think it's pretty lockative. Actually, the thing 2439 02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:35.200 is nothing but weird organic space worms that you're shooting. Salamander is just so 2440 02:28:35.479 --> 02:28:39.559 unusual as I like it. Yeah, I think there're more instances of the 2441 02:28:39.719 --> 02:28:43.959 US box art being so much worse than the Japanese box art. That's a 2442 02:28:43.959 --> 02:28:48.959 whole other conversation, Yeah, for sure. But yeah, the jet Set 2443 02:28:48.040 --> 02:28:50.639 Radio is the right name for that game of the franchise, like dudes, 2444 02:28:50.879 --> 02:28:56.079 didn't. One of them came out as Jest set here right. Yeah, 2445 02:28:56.319 --> 02:29:01.360 yes, JFRF came out as JFRF Future. That Radio Future was that was 2446 02:29:01.440 --> 02:29:05.360 JSRF like the actual title just to get around the copyright shop. Probably the 2447 02:29:05.440 --> 02:29:11.200 first game was Jack Rin Radio. Yeah, yeah, that's dubh. Let's 2448 02:29:11.319 --> 02:29:18.280 see. This is from Zachary. It's probably mostly for Jeff. He wants 2449 02:29:18.319 --> 02:29:22.079 help identifying a weird console from childhood. I have a very vivid memory of 2450 02:29:22.200 --> 02:29:26.319 playing a Hannah Barbera that is, Jetson's and flint Stones characters game in the 2451 02:29:26.399 --> 02:29:31.879 early nineties on what I think might have been an early DVD player. Well, 2452 02:29:31.399 --> 02:29:33.639 DVDs came out like ninety seven, so though it couldn't be that, 2453 02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:37.920 but I know that he says that, I know that DVD players weren't out 2454 02:29:37.959 --> 02:29:39.680 there, but I vividly remember using a disc and playing the game with what 2455 02:29:39.799 --> 02:29:43.239 looked like a TV remote. I also remember that my grandmother, who had 2456 02:29:43.280 --> 02:29:46.600 the console in question, explaining to me that one of the people who made 2457 02:29:46.639 --> 02:29:50.360 the game was killed in the north Ridge of earthquake, which makes me think 2458 02:29:50.399 --> 02:29:54.840 it was around ninety four. Any ideas what this mystery console might have been. 2459 02:29:54.959 --> 02:30:03.319 I mean, it could have been a CDI or a CDTV. What 2460 02:30:03.440 --> 02:30:09.399 did What did they say was that they played was the French CDI. Yeah, 2461 02:30:09.479 --> 02:30:13.520 that sounds like maybe some time period and CD I. I think I 2462 02:30:13.559 --> 02:30:16.559 remember the controller being really shitty like Yeah, I think the controller was like 2463 02:30:16.639 --> 02:30:18.479 a remote control. Yeah. I remember playing some boxing game on CDI and 2464 02:30:18.520 --> 02:30:22.479 I think it was with a controller like remote control. Yeah, I'm looking 2465 02:30:22.520 --> 02:30:24.479 at flint Stone CDI. Yeah, here we go. Let's play the Flinstones 2466 02:30:24.520 --> 02:30:28.319 and Jetsons time warp for the Philip CD or Hanna Barbarious Cartoon Carnival for the 2467 02:30:28.360 --> 02:30:33.159 CD. Also could be it's probably a CDI, all right, let's say 2468 02:30:33.200 --> 02:30:35.959 CDI. That would explain the DVD. That would make a lot of sense 2469 02:30:35.000 --> 02:30:39.159 confusion as well. Yeah, the flint Stones balloon Valley who is a part 2470 02:30:39.200 --> 02:30:43.799 of the Hanna Barbarious Cartoon Carnival. This looks bad. I guess we should 2471 02:30:43.840 --> 02:30:46.159 dig it up. This looks bad. This is rough. This is rough 2472 02:30:46.319 --> 02:30:48.920 because I don't know if there's enough stuff to do another CDI stream with. 2473 02:30:50.159 --> 02:30:54.399 No, I don't have enough stuff. I'll just play this would get our 2474 02:30:54.399 --> 02:30:56.159 hands on some more there's some trivia in here. What item of clothing does 2475 02:30:56.200 --> 02:31:01.840 top Cat wear vest, bow tire suspenders? I'm gonna pay bow tie suspenders. 2476 02:31:03.840 --> 02:31:07.840 What is the fuck is going on down there? We're having a cartoon 2477 02:31:07.879 --> 02:31:11.399 carnival over there, Top Cats top Facts. Yam, this looks rough, 2478 02:31:11.799 --> 02:31:16.360 but yes, that's that's likely. What it was? That also sounds rough? 2479 02:31:16.879 --> 02:31:20.479 What was what was the north Ridge quake? That wasn't the that was 2480 02:31:20.520 --> 02:31:24.079 the la Okay? All right? Yes? What's the name of the eighty 2481 02:31:24.200 --> 02:31:28.159 nine one? Is their name for that? Loma Prietta? Yes? Right, 2482 02:31:28.280 --> 02:31:33.399 yes, okay. I moved to Pedaluma two weeks after that earth quake? 2483 02:31:33.600 --> 02:31:35.520 Is it the World Series one? Yeah? Yes, yes, indeed. 2484 02:31:37.120 --> 02:31:41.239 UH got some more good Cold War nuclear stories in this week, but 2485 02:31:41.319 --> 02:31:50.559 Drew's not here, so we have to save those. Let's see a Nowady 2486 02:31:50.719 --> 02:31:54.239 writes in from Santa Anna, says, YO, just wondering if you guys 2487 02:31:54.319 --> 02:31:58.399 ever had a gaming experience in which poor fidelity of any sort ads a benefit 2488 02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:03.440 to the experience. As someone who loves Star Fucks sixty four, I know, 2489 02:32:03.680 --> 02:32:07.799 I know, I know it's good. No. I always found the 2490 02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:13.600 drop in frame rate when bosses blow up as a stylistic benefit. I think 2491 02:32:13.959 --> 02:32:16.360 Bass drop a lot movie trailers. You guys also mentioned pay Day during the 2492 02:32:16.399 --> 02:32:20.959 May thirty first podcast, which reminded me that I dug that game because little 2493 02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:24.840 quirks like being able to revive someone through a wall during a hard AI cop 2494 02:32:24.920 --> 02:32:28.239 push uh puts that puts all focus on, said teammate. It was quite 2495 02:32:28.319 --> 02:32:33.040 useful, A nice way to survive that ordeal. Am I crazy like Mega 2496 02:32:33.079 --> 02:32:37.200 Man? I like the frame rate drops and the little things like pausing and 2497 02:32:37.280 --> 02:32:39.399 unpausing to do it like Man's Okay, I wouldn't say I liked that, 2498 02:32:39.520 --> 02:32:43.280 but I got used to it, like I got I grew accustomed tape like 2499 02:32:43.319 --> 02:32:46.719 a trademark of the series, to having so many of those any asking more 2500 02:32:46.760 --> 02:32:48.719 time to react? Yeah, y yeah, I could see that. Yeah, 2501 02:32:48.719 --> 02:32:52.280 I don't know. I mean, yeah, there's there's just definitely like 2502 02:32:52.079 --> 02:32:56.760 cases where like but yeah, I think Boss is exploding in shooters. That's 2503 02:32:56.799 --> 02:33:01.360 the thing where you know where that slow frame rate because the explosion is so 2504 02:33:01.600 --> 02:33:03.840 fucking massive. That's kind of cool. Yea. I had that golden eye 2505 02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:07.840 when you're playing four player and like a ton of remote minds or proximity minds 2506 02:33:07.840 --> 02:33:09.559 are going off and everything's just going to ship and it's the same feeling. 2507 02:33:09.680 --> 02:33:13.760 Yeah, it's like there's too many explosions happening. I was I was the 2508 02:33:13.840 --> 02:33:16.200 idiot who got an original three D effects card and said, man, geo 2509 02:33:16.319 --> 02:33:20.479 quake looks cool, and then went right back to software because I got like 2510 02:33:20.559 --> 02:33:22.760 two in frames a second and it and I cared way more about frame rate 2511 02:33:22.840 --> 02:33:26.440 than than it looking cool. That's one of the things that I ended up 2512 02:33:26.440 --> 02:33:31.479 liking about Gary's mod is that you're you're just spawning stuff into the world, 2513 02:33:31.559 --> 02:33:35.520 and there were things like you could build things that would basically launch other entities. 2514 02:33:35.680 --> 02:33:39.879 So I built a bike gun would fire bikes, and then there was 2515 02:33:39.959 --> 02:33:43.399 this model pack that we had on our server that had dominoes as part of 2516 02:33:43.440 --> 02:33:46.760 it. It was like it was like a bunch of like skate park stuff 2517 02:33:46.840 --> 02:33:50.600 and these big dominoes, and you would launch the dominoes like exploding dominoes. 2518 02:33:50.639 --> 02:33:54.360 They would land and explode, but if you had too many of them, 2519 02:33:54.479 --> 02:33:58.280 the whole server would crash, so you would crash everyone else's game, like 2520 02:33:58.360 --> 02:34:01.239 you just full on hard crash, uh. And that was always fun. 2521 02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:05.520 So like whenever I got bored, like oh, it's me and a few 2522 02:34:05.559 --> 02:34:07.360 friends, just like we're gonna spend a few hours just building shit and fucking 2523 02:34:07.360 --> 02:34:11.600 around. And I was like, I think I'm done with this. We 2524 02:34:11.760 --> 02:34:15.680 just launched these dominoes, crash the server and then laugh and quit. Uh 2525 02:34:16.559 --> 02:34:20.200 yeah, that stuff's fun in the right context. I guess. Yeah, 2526 02:34:22.360 --> 02:34:26.840 Okay, see like three more emails or something. Sure Andrews from akron Ohio. 2527 02:34:26.479 --> 02:34:30.680 I went back and started Assassin's Creed Brotherhood today and discovered it was the 2528 02:34:30.799 --> 02:34:35.399 original idle game. You invest in shops and the numbers get bigger. You 2529 02:34:35.520 --> 02:34:37.840 walk around and steal money from people to invest in shops so the numbers can 2530 02:34:37.959 --> 02:34:41.440 get bigger. You leave the game running for hours so you can get the 2531 02:34:41.559 --> 02:34:46.079 numbers to get bigger. The numbers get bigger, Yeah that's you. Also 2532 02:34:46.239 --> 02:34:52.719 you also send yeah Ai off to do for you that run on timers that 2533 02:34:52.799 --> 02:34:56.200 make the numbers get bigger. Is all there? Like that game is like 2534 02:34:56.319 --> 02:35:00.760 totally pre Clicker, right. Uh no, i'leation. I feel like cal 2535 02:35:00.840 --> 02:35:05.440 Clicker was probably before that. Before that was maybe around the same. I 2536 02:35:05.440 --> 02:35:11.319 didn't twenty I think is when that game came out. I don't when when 2537 02:35:11.360 --> 02:35:13.760 that game came out. I don't remember thinking of those concepts as like, 2538 02:35:13.840 --> 02:35:16.600 oh god, these are a bunch of shitty phone game mechanics that they shoved 2539 02:35:16.639 --> 02:35:18.200 into this. I thought it was a joke, like when caw Clicker first 2540 02:35:18.200 --> 02:35:20.639 came around, Right, Well, that wasn't and that was a plan. 2541 02:35:20.799 --> 02:35:24.319 Yeah, I don't, I don't remember. Cal Clicker was July twenty ten. 2542 02:35:24.360 --> 02:35:28.120 I never I never actually saw that thing. But okay, that would 2543 02:35:28.120 --> 02:35:31.680 have been before Brotherhood. I guess I thought that was a cool aspect of 2544 02:35:31.719 --> 02:35:37.520 Brotherhood, Yes, which has been born out by the number of vital games 2545 02:35:37.559 --> 02:35:43.399 have come out since. Yes, So the answer is yes. Uh. 2546 02:35:43.559 --> 02:35:50.280 Email from Stephen that simply reads horizontal stand for PS two Why? I like? 2547 02:35:50.399 --> 02:35:54.920 Why not? But the Little Blue probably the only actual answering cool Shadab 2548 02:35:54.920 --> 02:35:58.120 Blue does look nice. It's a decent Shadab blue. I was happy to 2549 02:35:58.159 --> 02:36:01.959 buy one because it was so dumb. But wow, how much was that 2550 02:36:01.040 --> 02:36:03.879 thing? Like twenty bucks? Maybe not even that. I don't know. 2551 02:36:03.959 --> 02:36:07.399 I'm not sure it does. It does certainly does enhance the presentation of the 2552 02:36:09.040 --> 02:36:13.920 two where you have it, Did you actually bother turning the P logo on 2553 02:36:13.040 --> 02:36:16.360 it? Or did you do in vertical. Yes, I mean lots of 2554 02:36:16.399 --> 02:36:20.040 people just ignored that. No, that's missing out a little touch, Okay, 2555 02:36:20.120 --> 02:36:22.559 missing out on a key. Agree with what I'm saying. I did. 2556 02:36:22.719 --> 02:36:26.200 Lots of people I knew would turn their thing sideways and then just not 2557 02:36:26.280 --> 02:36:28.719 bother with the turning. Don't be friends. Those people have no standards, 2558 02:36:28.799 --> 02:36:31.440 I agree. They live with no code. Yes they are. They are 2559 02:36:31.520 --> 02:36:37.200 without honor. They must be perched. Jordan in Pittsburgh. I've been wondering 2560 02:36:37.280 --> 02:36:39.559 what the top of Toad's head is. Is it a hat or is it 2561 02:36:39.680 --> 02:36:43.319 just the top of his head. It's a mushroom. His head is a 2562 02:36:43.360 --> 02:36:48.280 mushroom heads us, So that's his head. It's mushrom kingdom. Okay, 2563 02:36:48.440 --> 02:36:50.319 that's much from people. Yeah, the toads are that is their head is 2564 02:36:50.559 --> 02:36:56.959 is giant mushroom thing. Show me any official art that shows Toadsworth or Toadette 2565 02:36:56.079 --> 02:37:00.680 or toad without their mushroom hats. He's a mushroom retainer. Yeah, you 2566 02:37:00.680 --> 02:37:03.079 know it's under there his damn brain. That's why I want to see You 2567 02:37:03.079 --> 02:37:05.879 don't want to see that. Yeah, I guess that's a good point. 2568 02:37:05.280 --> 02:37:09.120 He wouldn't be a mushroom without the mushroom cap. Yeah all right, so 2569 02:37:09.319 --> 02:37:11.719 yeah, like they always say, they'll try to pull that thing off. 2570 02:37:13.440 --> 02:37:20.840 Okay. Last email from Owen. My parents own a cabin surrounded by one 2571 02:37:20.920 --> 02:37:24.680 hundred and sixty acres in the desolate Mendocino National Forest on the Sacramento Valley side 2572 02:37:24.719 --> 02:37:28.440 of the range. Ye. The closest person to the cabin is a hermit 2573 02:37:28.520 --> 02:37:33.520 that lives across the canyon about ten miles away. The kind of place nobody 2574 02:37:33.559 --> 02:37:37.079 would hear your screams. One time, my mom was out for a walk 2575 02:37:37.120 --> 02:37:39.360 down one of the many dirt roads, saw some bare human footprints in the 2576 02:37:39.399 --> 02:37:43.399 dirt. As she looks up, there are two men looking at her just 2577 02:37:43.479 --> 02:37:46.319 about fifty feet away. They quickly duck into the bushes and drop a bag 2578 02:37:46.440 --> 02:37:50.040 and shoes. She high tails it out of there in fear of being shot. 2579 02:37:52.319 --> 02:37:54.680 Naturally, my parents call into the Forest Service letting them know there were 2580 02:37:54.719 --> 02:37:58.840 some creepers floating around our cabin. As suspected, there was a massive grow 2581 02:38:00.239 --> 02:38:03.799 with hundreds of plants less than a mile away. It had been there for 2582 02:38:03.959 --> 02:38:07.639 at least a month. Very spooky, like seeing Bigfoot, but sasquatch doesn't 2583 02:38:07.719 --> 02:38:11.959 set traps. Both my parents carry side arms when walking in the woods. 2584 02:38:13.040 --> 02:38:16.280 But now it's not just for mountain lions. M So, if you wanted 2585 02:38:16.319 --> 02:38:20.920 to hear hear a real life story of illicit grow ops in northern California. 2586 02:38:20.159 --> 02:38:26.840 We're setting traps like the grow people's that's what he's implying here. That certainly 2587 02:38:26.120 --> 02:38:30.399 would happen. Yeah, Jesus Christ. So yeah, that's like we I 2588 02:38:30.440 --> 02:38:35.120 mean, we'd predator. Look, everything kind of north of like Yukaiah and 2589 02:38:35.280 --> 02:38:39.000 Upward is basically one giant grow operation in one way or another. To be 2590 02:38:39.079 --> 02:38:43.159 careful, a lot of like businesses that have no business being open anymore. 2591 02:38:43.559 --> 02:38:46.200 Yeah, it's like, I don't know why this crystal shop stays in business, 2592 02:38:48.760 --> 02:38:50.680 but man, they're moving a lot of crystals. Yeah, they're flourishing. 2593 02:38:50.879 --> 02:38:54.200 Just look at their books. Some people end and out of the Narby 2594 02:38:54.360 --> 02:38:58.639 Park back there. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, that's that's yeah. 2595 02:38:58.799 --> 02:39:01.159 This came up last week on the pod. Yeah yeah, I don't know. 2596 02:39:03.040 --> 02:39:05.639 I didn't need the context like that was say yes, yeah, you 2597 02:39:07.079 --> 02:39:09.879 also lived in the context, yes for that. In some ways, this 2598 02:39:09.040 --> 02:39:13.959 is a I had definitely had friends that would go up to Humboldt for six 2599 02:39:13.079 --> 02:39:18.520 months at a time around the spring and summer to pick. Yeah, strawberries, 2600 02:39:18.639 --> 02:39:22.680 right, yeah, obviously apples. They got a construction gig. I 2601 02:39:22.040 --> 02:39:26.120 had a town construction job. Be back in six months. Yeah, oh 2602 02:39:28.000 --> 02:39:33.399 okay, all right, there's a true life story. Uh that's it. 2603 02:39:33.600 --> 02:39:37.000 I'm cutting it off here. Okay, it's weirdly like humid and sweaty in 2604 02:39:37.040 --> 02:39:39.440 this room. I think we need to get out. I think I get 2605 02:39:39.479 --> 02:39:41.719 ready for you three. I'm sorry that I did that to this room. 2606 02:39:41.920 --> 02:39:43.000 It's okay, it was not It's never been like this before. No, 2607 02:39:43.399 --> 02:39:46.680 they're the only thing that's different. We can put up with it for. 2608 02:39:46.840 --> 02:39:50.840 Maybe it's the red lights. Maybe it's the summary style. Yeened it up? 2609 02:39:50.959 --> 02:39:54.360 All right? Well, yeah, we're shipping off to LA this weekend 2610 02:39:54.520 --> 02:40:00.479 for electronic entertainment next boo. Yeah, we'll have our coverage will well, 2611 02:40:00.600 --> 02:40:05.680 we'll be driving down on Saturday morning, so you can catch that on Mixler. 2612 02:40:05.959 --> 02:40:09.200 Catch that at the Zone and Jeff dot zot zone. That's probably the 2613 02:40:09.239 --> 02:40:11.959 shortest url to get more information and to click through to where there's a chat 2614 02:40:13.040 --> 02:40:16.319 room and all that other stuff for for the Mixler stuff. Yes, and 2615 02:40:16.399 --> 02:40:18.920 then we'll be up in broadcasting on Sunday. Yeah, for the e A 2616 02:40:20.079 --> 02:40:22.079 press conference starting at one pm on Sunday. Well, I guess we'll be 2617 02:40:22.159 --> 02:40:26.040 live a bit before that. Yeah, probably more like twelve thirty or something 2618 02:40:26.040 --> 02:40:28.360 like that. Stuff out, you know, yeah, to get things, 2619 02:40:28.479 --> 02:40:31.959 get things going, yep, and then it's off to the races. It's 2620 02:40:31.959 --> 02:40:35.600 all gonna happen, so a whole bunch of stuff. It's all happened Tight 2621 02:40:35.639 --> 02:40:37.959 and Fall two. Yeah that's a video game. Yeah, yeah, we'll 2622 02:40:37.959 --> 02:40:41.120 be it. We'll be doing uh, the EA and the thouts of conferences 2623 02:40:41.159 --> 02:40:46.520 on Sunday. Monday is like that whole thing. Yeah, Tuesday morning is 2624 02:40:46.639 --> 02:40:50.399 Nintendo and then you know we'll be at the show and doing live shows every 2625 02:40:50.440 --> 02:40:52.920 night, you guests, podcasts here and there, all kinds of other stuff. 2626 02:40:54.120 --> 02:41:00.360 Got a killer lineup this year. Yeah, yes, indeed trying out 2627 02:41:00.360 --> 02:41:03.520 Sneeze. Yeah, as we said, they're they're busy breaking down our whole 2628 02:41:03.559 --> 02:41:07.200 production pipeline right now and putting it in a truck. So kind of light 2629 02:41:07.280 --> 02:41:09.959 on the video stuff from this end for the rest of the week. But 2630 02:41:11.360 --> 02:41:15.399 well, Austin and Vinnie are still out East and no, I'm not privy 2631 02:41:15.479 --> 02:41:16.520 to what they're up to this week, but I'm sure they'll get up to 2632 02:41:16.559 --> 02:41:20.799 some chicanery, yeah, some nonsense, yes, And I think we're gonna 2633 02:41:20.840 --> 02:41:24.120 try try to put some kind of stream together. Yeah yeah. We'll see 2634 02:41:24.120 --> 02:41:26.879 what we can get going at the end of this week with what we have. 2635 02:41:26.360 --> 02:41:30.319 So anyway, that's it. Thank you for listening. This has been 2636 02:41:30.360 --> 02:42:00.120 the Giant Bomb Casts. See its show m